The Weekly Planet - 449 Hugh Jackman RETURNS As Wolverine

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

It's an incredible time to be both Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds. Because they're rich and handsome and famous. But also because it's been revealed that Hugh Jackman will be returning to the role o...f Wolverine in Deadpool 3 set somewhat within the MCU. We also talk news of more Planet of the Apes, everyone is getting deepfakes, Harrison Ford joins the Thunderbolts potentially plus we get into actors who were like "I WILL NEVER PLAY THIS CHARACTER AGAIN" but then they're like, yeah alright gimme the money I'll do it. Thanks for listening!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.00:00 The Start03:55 Star Trek 4 Delays08:02 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes10:12 The Last of Us Trailer11:51 Darth Vader Retires13:58 Bruce Willis AI Acting18:39 Werewolf By Night Early Reactions20:12 Harrison Ford MCU Rumour25:30 Armor Wars Movie29:33 Blade Movie Troubles36:01 Mason’s One Bit of News37:51 Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine in Deadpool 352:59 Actors Who Said “Never Again” and What Got Them Back01:46:39 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:51:54 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:08 This is my co-host, Nick Mason. It's great to be here. Are you also shooting it straight this week? Yeah, I'm a straight shooter. Pachow, pachow. That was a bit crooked, Mason. Yeah. And they're pointed in different directions.
Starting point is 00:01:17 They are pointed in different directions. I do have two finger guns and they are, one's pointed sort of roughly into the ceiling. Yep. And one's into the sort of the audio baffling over there on the wall there. It looks like you're killing a man and you're killing his pet bird. Or I'm killing a man and I'm killing God. So the man I've killed can't go to heaven. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:01:36 I'm a big fan. Yeah. The ultimate revenge. Am I seeking revenge on God? No, no, the man. Oh, okay, sure. God's just, you know, it's part of the plan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Oh, I should stress both of those were an accident. Oh, no. Yeah, I was just cleaning them and they both went off. This is not what this podcast is about. Absolutely not. Yeah. We do the movie news of the week and then we do a topic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And there's a bunch of big topics this week. I'm loopy, by the way, because I mentioned to you earlier I finished work at 3.30 a.m. this morning, but daylight savings started or possibly ended, so it was actually 4.30 in the morning. Really? Yeah. You're knackered, mate.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I'm at the end of my rope. And it's the end. It's either going to result in a good episode or an episode where you go, here's the news of the week, and this happened, and this, and they're developing a new movie. And I'll be like, that's great, man. That's cool. And then you're like, oh, no, I've shot a man again and God,
Starting point is 00:02:29 I've done it again. Yeah. Theater school holidays for me, so I'm feeling very similar, Mason. I'll tell you that much. So this is the news of the week. Collings puts time codes below if you don't jump to anything. Star Trek update. Because you have to go back to school.
Starting point is 00:02:41 No, Mason. No, Mason. No, Mason. You've squeezed into one of those little desks. I get squeezed into one of those desks. I like how I didn't even go Adam Sandler. My reference is the Rodney Dangerfield movie, Back to School. A movie you've probably never seen.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I've seen it. A friend of mine, a friend of ours actually really loved that movie. Nobody believes that, Mason. Like we'd go and we'd have a night at his house and he'd be like, let's watch Rodney Dangerfield's Back to School. Because it's got that comedian who's always yelling. You know that guy? He's from Police Academy?
Starting point is 00:03:10 No, that's Bobcat Goldsway. Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. You're thinking of a different guy. I'll look him up. Please do. Do the news of the week. And I'll say, yeah, sure. New Planet of the Apes stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:19 That's right. Trailers ahoy for The Last of Us. We've got some deep fake news for a couple of actors, which I want to get into. Very spooky stuff. The verdict, it seems, the early verdict for Werewolf by Night is coming, and it's not looking good for my scoop mace, and I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:03:35 That's right, and a rumoured verdict for the yet-to-be-filmed Blade in a similar vein. Oh, I'm going to get into that, yeah. So that on top of recasting of General Ross, Armor Wars, Blade, as you mentioned, and then, of course, the big news of the week is that Hugh Jackman is Backman as Deadpool. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Backman, Turner Overdrive. They're doing the Backman, Turner Overdrive biopic. You better believe it. And then, of course- And he's Hal Backman. Oh, that's good. Tal Backman? Tal Backman.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. And then I want to talk about, I Hal Backman. Oh, that's right. Tal Backman? Tal Backman. Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. And then I want to talk about, I've done a bunch of research this week on actors who said they'd never return to a role. That's right. And then how much money they took for coming back to that role. How much money they took or how much spite they had to expend. It's both.
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's often both. Some of them was like, no, I'm pretending I like this. That's peppered among it. But it's mostly spite and money, and I love that. That's right. That sticky, icky, cash-ish. Anyway, who's the yelling comedian? The yelling comedian is Sam Kinison.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Remember him? Oh, of course, yeah, yeah. But also Robert Downey Jr. is in that movie. Is he? Says that here, unless Google's lying to me. It is. Which they do for that sticky, icky, cash-ish. Oh, my goodness, Mason.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. Now, this first story is via Variety, if you don't mind me saying so. So Star Trek 4. We'll see. Star Trek 4, Mason. New Star Trek 4. That's right. So that's in the Abrams-averse, the Kelvin timeline, if you will,
Starting point is 00:04:54 the Chris Pine-averse. Yes. That has been pulled, not surprisingly. Named after Kelvin McAllister, the lead character from Home Alone. Thank you very much. Or Kelvin, the ship to shore. We're doing too many riffs, Mason. We're doing too many riffs and we need to get on with this. All Calvin, the ship to shore. We're doing too many riffs, Mason. We're doing too many riffs and we need to get on with this.
Starting point is 00:05:07 All right, fine. I mean, I loved my ship to shore riff. That was great. I feel we didn't dwell enough in the ship to shore riff. I think you just said it and you moved on. And I think there should be more time. You could have done the theme. I could have.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Do you want to do a little bit? That's enough. It's enough riffing. That wasn't a V-show. But to be clear, we know the rest. Yes, we do. So it's been pulled from the 2023 schedule. Not surprising because, of course, Matt Shackman,
Starting point is 00:05:34 he left that project to work on Fantastic Four. Do you think there's a possibility, though, seeing as he left, that maybe J.J. Abrams is about to get fired from Warner Brothers like everybody else and he's going to make a triumphant return to Star Trek, which everybody would love? Maybe. Because the studio would go like, what was our biggest one? It's probably 2009, I assume.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah, the first one, right? Probably not adjusted for inflation, but I would say in terms of raw data. I think so. There'd be a big enough number there for them to be impressed and go, yeah, we could do with another of those big numbers. Thank you. Do you think it would be worth maybe making a movie around the stuff
Starting point is 00:06:13 that people like about the new stuff? Like doing a Strange New Worlds movie. You know, they're doing like a Cobra Kai. They're doing a new Karate Kid movie that's not related to Cobra Kai. Do you think they should do something like that instead of going back to the well of the old universe? Yeah, I mean, probably, but also
Starting point is 00:06:29 I feel like... The new universe, you know what I mean. Look, I know we talk about how TV is just like movies these days, but I feel like there is still a stigma of, we can't get TV, guys. Yeah. I mean, there is precedent in Star Trek for that. They literally did that.
Starting point is 00:06:43 They literally did that, but I don't know if. Well, they did it with, you know, original series and the next generation. That's true. They did, yeah, I guess. So, you know, in saying that, I guess you're right. It is the only franchise really where they just went, let's do a. And it's all cast. It would be cheaper.
Starting point is 00:07:01 You get all the creatives involved. Keep the sets. Keep the sets. Yeah. But, I mean, that being said, though. Maybe you could make creatives involved. Keep the sets. Keep the sets, yeah. But, I mean, that being said, though. Maybe you could make a new set. No, no. Okay, sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:10 We could destroy an Enterprise, though. Yeah, that's true. We could crash an Enterprise, though. That being said, though, I feel like the next-gen characters making the jump to the movies was in an era where next-gen was a huge hit on TV and even people who didn't really know Star Trek were like, oh, yeah, okay, that's a big hit on TV. I know about that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And it transitioned from old Trek to new as well. Yeah, but this is kind of, there's so many options now. I think if you were like Star Trek, Strange New Worlds, people would go, okay, is this the J.J. Abrams one or is this Kirk again? You'd have to be like, no, it's on Paramount Plus maybe or another channel. Maybe it's on Hulu or something.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Whereas I suppose they could go like Chris Pine is teaming up with Chris Pratt, which is one of the ideas. Not Chris Pratt. No, no, Chris Pine and Chris Pratt. It doesn't matter. Two Chrises. We've rolled the dice. Two Chrises.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Chrises. Is that anything? Yes, two Chrises. That's good. That's good. We're the brains pumping. Good, good. This is how we do this.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah. A spin doctor's good. We're the brains pumping. Good, good, right. This is how we do this. Yeah. A spin doctor's reference. So for those who probably remember or vaguely remember. Pocket full of kryptonite. Thank you. Their big hit album. Chris Hemsworth played Chris Pine's Kirk's father in the original Star Trek. That's correct, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And there was an idea to bring them together in a timeline thing. Yes. And I think with name recognition alone, I think that could do really well, but that would cost a lot. Chris Pine writing, of course, off Don't Worry Darling. Don't even worry, babe. That's right. It's called an Australia.
Starting point is 00:08:33 She'll be right, babe. I feel I've done She'll Be Apples quite recently, so I'm not going to do it again. You're not going to do it again? I'm not going to do it again, yeah. Great. Terrific. So, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:41 We'll see what happens. I need to actually get caught up on all my Trek. Actually, I've been watching Lower Decks, which is thrilling, so I'm really enjoying that. Mason, you might have seen the imagery this week for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, a piece of concept. I did see that, yes. It said something like 500 years after the last.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Production on this begins next month from director Wes Ball, who did the Maze Runner trilogy, which I watched the first one, and I'm like, that was pretty good. I like that. I think I like that one. So it's going to pick up many years after the end of 2017's War for the Planet of the Apes. That's very interesting because the last piece of Planet of the Apes
Starting point is 00:09:15 news I remember hearing about was that the next Planet of the Apes movie was going to be a reboot yet again. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. So it was going to be like, okay, we're just going to do another planet. It was going to be unconnected to the previous ones. But it turns out they know what side their bread's butted on and they know that people like those previous ones
Starting point is 00:09:34 and they think, well, let's do a sequel. I'm really glad they went in that direction. Also, it may as well be a reboot. It's 500 years in the future. Yes, exactly. So all the characters we know and love, most of them died in the previous movies, and that Cobra fell down a big shaft.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Do you remember that? He fell down a thing and exploded. Somebody catch me. So all the apes we know from the previous movies are dead. Yes. Unless they've found the Fountain of Youth. Unless it's also a universe in which there is a Fountain of Youth. Spoiler alert, like Caesar dies, doesn't he, in the last one?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yes. Five years old at this point. I could spoil that, right? I mean, and he would be dead anyway. Yes, because of the 500 years. 500 years or whatever. Unless, once again, the founder of youth or something in their genetics enables them to live 500 years.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Et cetera and so forth. Yeah. These are great. They are great. So more, please. Matt Reeves directed two of the last three. How do you feel about the name Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes? What would you prefer?
Starting point is 00:10:27 A bunch of apes mucking about. But they're smart. Brackets, but they're smart apes. Extra brackets. I'm extending that. Yes, go on. They're flinging poo. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:10:37 There's some things that are in that, you know. It's a metaphor. I was thinking they'd be flinging Proust because they're so. What's Proust? You know, Marcel Proust, the author. Because they're very. They can Proust? You know, Marcel Proust, the author. Because they're very. They can read? I mean, 500 years.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Just to say what they can do. They've probably caught up on all sorts of. They're flinging riffs. They could be flinging riffs 500 years in the future. They probably could, couldn't they? That just happened, they'd say. Flying, throwing poo at each other and Proust. Speaking of the future.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Go on. Trailers of Hoymason for The Last of Us. Last of Us has a brand new trailer. That's right. It looks very much like the game. It's got, of course, the Mandalorian himself and the little girl from Game of Thrones who was mean. A human Grogu.
Starting point is 00:11:14 That's right. A human Grogu. That's very good. All his future castmates will be compared to Grogu or not Grogu. A hundred percent. You are right, yes. What did you think of this trailer if you didn't watch it? I did watch it. It looks expensive. A hundred percent. You are right, yes. What did you think of this trailer if you didn't watch it? I did watch it.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It looks expensive. It looks expensive. It looks suitably dreary and sad, which is the Last of Us universe. We've got to look at the clickers, the humans that are sort of infected with that zombie fungal disease. Nick Offerman. Nick Offerman is in this, yes. Yeah, so apparently it's going to adhere pretty closely to the games.
Starting point is 00:11:44 The creator behind the game is also heavily involved in the series. I'm interested to see, like, what could it do? Like, if it's just doing the games, what's good about it? Like, in addition to. But it honestly looks really great. Other cast members include Gabriel Luna's in it. Oh, he's good. And a Torv who you might know from the TV series Fringe.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I've never seen Fringe. And so do you. That in it. Oh, he's good. And a Torv who you might know from the TV series Fringe. I've never seen Fringe. That's the show. And says you. That's it. Says you. That's all the people. Oh, and Melanie Linsky, of course, who's in Yellow Jackets. Oh, I like Melanie Linsky.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I've watched that, both seasons, that are currently out. Very good. That's going to be out sometime in 2023. I would say probably in the first half if they're releasing a trailer for it. I'd imagine. But that's very exciting and we will watch it when it comes out, won't we, Mason? We will watch it.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Or we forget because we're swamped with content. We're not swamped with good content, though, generally speaking. Well, there's some good stuff. Yeah. Some good stuff, Mason. Name one thing, perhaps in the next bit of news. Vanity Fair. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:12:40 James Earl Jones has a – Wonderful magazine. I agree. James Earl Jones has officially retired as Darth Vader. Now his last actual vocal performance that he did in studio was for Tross, The Rise of Skywalker. Oh, yes, that's right. He does a little voice cameo at the start where he tells Kylo Ren that the voice
Starting point is 00:12:57 that he's been hearing that was Darth Vader was actually the Emperor. He was doing it from a big spider chair or whatever. Yeah, right, right, right. But the Darth Vader voice we heard in Kenobi, Obi-Wan Kenobi, was using the same technology that they used to make Mark Hamill's voice in The Mandalorian, i.e. they got enough samples of his voice that they could build an algorithm, and the algorithm is doing all the work now. That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:22 So apparently they presented Jones – he's 91, by the way – with Reese Beecher's work. Fucking great. Is Jones – he's 91, by the way, with Reece Beach's work. He's looking great. Is he? I haven't seen him in a long time. Presumably. He's still looking glossy and black and he's got the thing on his chest. He can really swing that lightsaber.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So he's still doing the body, is he? Yeah. Was he ever? He never did the body. No, he never did. That was David Prowse initially and it's been multiple stunt people
Starting point is 00:13:43 ever since and whatever, including Hayden Christensen, one of them, more recently. So the actor signed off on using his archival voice recordings to keep Darth Vader alive and vital, even by artificial means. Did you say artificial means? Means. Okay. So he's more machine than man, et cetera, Mason.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I saw that a few times this week and I went, very good, I will steal that for the show. Very good. And then Mason will say, well, kudos me live, finally. Big time kudos for you, James. That's what I thought. This has gone very well for me. Very well.
Starting point is 00:14:15 On your thievery. Turned it around. I read an article where this came from as well, that there was a guy called Bogdan Belyaev. And he actually, I agree, he was the one who actually did the re-speech of work for Darth Vader for Kenobi as they were being invaded. So he's like, I better get this done.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Oh, like in Ukraine. There's a big invasion happening right now, but I've got this deadline and it's Disney. If the Russians don't kill me, Disney will. Wow. So that's fascinating. Yeah. Now, how do you feel about this, though?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Actually, before I do that, let's get into this, actually. So the Telegraph reported that Bruce Willis has become the first Hollywood star to sell his rights for a digital twin of himself to be created for use on screen via a company called Deep Cake. Yeah. Deep Cake. Yes. Like a deep cake.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yes. No, I'm visualizing it. Like it's narrow. You can't touch the bottom of the cake. That's a deep cake. Yes. No, I'm- Like it's narrow. I'm visualizing it. You can't touch the bottom of the cake. That's a deep cake. I agree. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And you're like, maybe there's a little present or something in the bottom, but you don't know because the cake's so deep. It's too deep. Wow. Yeah. You get like an umbrella. You try to reach the bottom, but you can't. Do you think maybe they started as like a pornographic company somehow? Feels like a name.
Starting point is 00:15:25 That feels like a vaguely adult entertainment themed name somehow. Not many things pivot out of pornography. Right, sure, sure. More things pivot in. I guess that's true. It does happen. Don't get me wrong. You might get like an actor coming over to the mainstream
Starting point is 00:15:38 every now and then. But yeah, interesting theory. Never though. So in a statement on its website, Willis says, I liked the precision with which my character turned out. Interesting theory. Never though. So in a statement on its website, Willis says, I liked the precision with which my character turned out. It's a mini movie in my usual action comedy genre. For me, it's a great opportunity to go back in time.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Of course, he was recently diagnosed, though this has been for a while, with aphasia, which affects your speech and understanding of speech, and that's why he's been doing all of these movies to make a bunch of money, presumably for his family, before his retirement, which I think he has retired by now. His family are a fleet of Ferraris. Exactly. The thing is... Wouldn't begrudge him either.
Starting point is 00:16:13 No, absolutely not doing what he wants. You've got to get one in every colour. I agree. Children. So this, though, isn't true. So Bruce Willis' rep told Yahoo Entertainment, which also sounds that this isn't true, that he has no- Also started out as an adult entertainment company.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yahoo! Oh, that's true. They said he has no partnership or agreement with this company, and then Deep Cake confirmed this. So I went to their website. So they're saying there's a movie. No, they're saying this website said they sold the rights. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But the statement that was allegedly from Bruce Willis there that turns out not to be real. He's saying there's a movie involved and it looks like me and it's back to me. Okay. What I think happened, I even went back on the Wayback Machine. I think somebody at this company, or maybe they had it on their website and they removed it and I couldn't find it. They did that weird Russian commercial with deepfake Bruce Willis.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Oh, right. And if you go to the website, it's just that. It's like, what celebrities do you want to see? Who have we got working for us? And it's just like we did a Bruce Willis commercial. And then they're like, who do you want to see? Tell us. Is it Bruce Willis?
Starting point is 00:17:23 Because we've got Bruce Willis. We don't actually have him. Do you want any kind of American 80s action superstar? A gruff one? He's bald? He's in Die Hard? We've got Bruce Willis. As luck would have it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Bruce Willis. Oh, wait, we don't. We don't have it anymore. He's suit us. So, yeah. So that's what's going on here. So, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if this, though, becomes more commonplace. So, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if this becomes more commonplace.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I feel more okay with James Earl Jones doing it than someone who has aphasia selling their digital likeness. Yeah. And it's the same with dead actors. I know the family. But to be clear, he hasn't. He hasn't. No, but I'm saying if it did. But we've seen it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Like Tarkin came back. It's true. Family estate. When it happened with Princess Leia the first time she was alive for rogue one and then not for the second time because her daughter gave and you know what might i say if your daughter says you can be in star wars whatever well it's nothing to do with me but this is very shaky territory isn't it though yeah yeah um do you do you think that this is maybe potentially this company, does it seem like they have the technology here?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah, they've done. Does it seem like it's functional and working? Yeah. It looks pretty good. I mean, anybody can do it. Yeah. There's a lot of, literally anybody can use this technology. There's an app and whatever and there's varying degrees of how to,
Starting point is 00:18:39 but essentially it's a pretty simple process if you put the time into it. Yeah. Of uploading the various imagery. Right, right, right. I mean, this is certainly, this seems like it's a PR win for these guys in the sense that now everybody knows deep cake is out there and they're providing deep fakes and delightful birthday treats that you cannot reach at the bottom of the cake.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Can't reach the bottom of it, you know. Anyways, for shame, the Telegraph. The deepest donut you'll ever see. Just very narrow. Does the hole and you put your hand in the hole it's a hot jam donut but it's very oh i would love so you have to make your own hole it's hot it's hot does it get colder as it go down no hotter oh no but you're like maybe there's a price at the bottom so you're gonna keep digging but you don't know no yeah anyways for shame on the telegraph for putting that story out there and getting it wrong you've really tarnished your reputation, the Telegraph. Anyway, speaking of, we had, me, I should say specifically,
Starting point is 00:19:31 had a scoop a few weeks back that Werewolf by Night had been cut down to like 30 minutes because it wasn't very good. Yeah. And the actor didn't. And I said, or at least I thought, just put a different guy in the suit. And look, I actually forgot to reach out to the source to do it this week who told me that to find out whether – To berate them.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, to berate them and be like, you made me look like a right prat. It's fine. I actually don't mind. Because, Mason, I am a right prat. But anyway, so the reviews have come out and it's 52 minutes. So it's like – So this was screened somewhere. Some screeners went out.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Okay, I remember that. And it's currently sitting at 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's pretty good. And as we know, people who get all the advanced screenings of things, they're always – they're just – they're really on a level, those guys. I will say this. It's not bad news. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But we'll find out what's actually kind of going on later in the week. Yes, exactly, yeah. It's coming out very soon. It's coming out on the 7th, so we'll be talking about it next week. So apparently it's gory and like a really cool throwback and spooky and fun and all of those things. So, I mean, it looks different. I would love it if this was great.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I mean, I'd love it if it was bad, then I'd be validated. I'd love it either way. Yeah, yeah. You would love it if the lead actor, there's literally a scene where he takes the werewolf mask off and he's like, this sucks and it's hot and uncomfortable in here and I shan't be doing the rest of it and that's why the rest of it is bad. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Anyway, sometimes we get. You could get that deep fake, James. I could. You could talk to is bad. Exactly. Anyway, sometimes we get. You could get that deep fake, James. I could. You could talk to Deep Cake. Yeah. Fix it and make me look better. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, we do sometimes get things right.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It's true. And we got this one thing wrong. We, collectively. Oh, man. Never should have signed that contract. Here we go, Mason. William Hurt died. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah, I do remember that. That's not recent news. Nah, he was 72. Yeah. He. William Hurt died. Remember that? I do remember that. That's not recent news. No, he was 72. He had cancer and he died. Jeff Snyder, though, said this recently. He's an entertainment reporter and whatnot. Terrific. Not just your mate.
Starting point is 00:21:15 No. This isn't your source who's alive. No, this is him, yeah. Oh, great. You're outing him now. No, it's not him. He said this via the Hot Mic podcast. He said, Though Marvel insiders deny he's been cast in the movie
Starting point is 00:21:28 at this time, multiple sources indicate that Harrison Ford either is or wasn't the studio's top choice to star in Thunderbolts as General Ross himself. It's unclear whether he has already passed. I feel like you can recast General Ross. Yes, you can. Of course, we had previous movies we had. Sam Elliott.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Sam Elliott was the original. Wait. No, he was in the. It was Anglais. Yeah, Anglais. Would that be confusing, though, for people? No. No?
Starting point is 00:21:57 No. But people would have watched our amazing video. I mean, they recast Rhodey and they did it with one line. But that was, of course, before. That was also racism because the guy who did it was like, no one will notice. You know, that's true. No one will notice.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah, yeah. But, you know, they did it literally with a line, it's me, get over it kind of thing. That's true. But that is years before people got mad at everything. Yeah. I mean, they could also bring in like a different guy with a mustache. Yeah, I mean, in terms of like there's a bunch of Mario of the Super Mario fame.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Exactly. Oh, we've got to get her the Hulk. He's sad also. Why? I'm working too hard. I live with my wife at home. Oh, no. I've got to get her the Hulk, but it'll take up all of my time.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Peach, you're like a different woman. Yeah, a real human woman. You're married to a human woman. Yes. Why are you rescuing the princess, though? What's that about? I mean, it's a good deed. Yeah, yeah real human woman. You're married to a human woman. Yes. Why rescuing the princess, though? What's that about? I mean, it's a good deed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:48 But why is that the only specific deed that you do? Oh. You could do like another. I mean, you're doing the Thunderbolts, I guess. Yes, that's true. People are like, hey, Mario, why are you always doing that one thing? And he's like, I'm going to make a supervillain team. So my wife doesn't get suspicious yet.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Honey, I do all kinds of things. This is a dumb show, mate. Yeah, I know. I had a point, but I can't remember what it is now because you made me do that thing with Mario of Super Mario Bros. fame where he's a computer animated man in the Marvel Universe now but he's also depressed. Real Mario's depressed.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, and he's married. And I think maybe he might bring some of that into the character. Sure. Because his daughter's, you know, estranged from his daughter. That's a good point actually. Yeah, yeah, okay. This is all great stuff. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I guess my point was Harrison Ford is 80 and if there's going to be an ongoing role, he's 80. That's true. And, you know, he'll either not want to do it again or he'll die because he's 80. But then again, recast again, I don't know. But also I think, like, William Hurt is not recognisable enough in this role to deepfake him.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Like, it would kind of be a waste of time, I feel. That's true. I mean, no offence to William Hurt, but it kind of seems like. I mean, the technology's there, though, so. Well, I was going to say also, maybe we're going to be a waste of time, I feel. That's true. I mean, no offense to William Hurt, but it kind of seems like – I mean, the technology is there, though, so. Well, I was going to say also, maybe we're going to talk about this. You could just do a different Agent Shield guy, and then you said Mario. I did, yes. Like a different – were you thinking of another higher-up person?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Where were you going with any of that? That is a great question. I was just thinking – because this week, of course, we mentioned – you mentioned Werewolf by Night. So this week for Caravan of Garbage, we are – No, no, that's going to be the week after. For next week for Caravan of Garbage, we are watching the Man thing, 2005 movie, and that got me thinking about Marvel's Supernatural stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah. And there was an offshoot of S.H.I.E.L.D. called Steak in the Marvel comic universe, which is like Supernatural. It's the Supernatural team. And one of them was Dum-Dum-Dugan, but the life model decoy of Dum Dum Dugan. Oh, that's fun. I love that. Because he's dead.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I love that. Obviously in the present day. Yeah. Because he was a World War II guy. Yeah. But get the guy. You know the guy? Dum Dum Dugan.
Starting point is 00:24:56 The actor who plays him. He also voices the Hulk in some things. Yes. Neil McDonagh. There we go. Get him. The most Irish name you've ever seen. And you'd be like, aren't you dead?
Starting point is 00:25:04 And you'd be like, I'm a robot. And people would be like, I guess. Sure. Fine. Yeah. He's a gun. Yeah. There we go. Get him. The most Irish name you've ever seen. And you'd be like, aren't you dead? And you'd be like, I'm a robot. People would be like, I guess, sure. Fine. Yeah. He's a gun. Yeah, that's right. Shotgun? Is he a shotgun guy?
Starting point is 00:25:12 He feels like a shotgun guy, doesn't he? Shotgun bowler hat. Yeah, shotgun bowler hat. Yeah, yeah. Very good. So, yeah, that may or may not be happening. And also, I mean, how much money? We're going to talk about actors and money momentarily,
Starting point is 00:25:24 but how much money does Harrison Ford want to be this character for one or two movies? Probably a lot. Yeah. You put a name on it, though. He's got Indiana Jones coming out. It makes sense. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Yeah, okay, yeah. Did you see that leaked trailer, any of it? No. It looks pretty shit. I also didn't see the leaked trailer for Quantumania, which is apparently out there. That's on Twitter as well. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I saw it just pop up in my feed. There's a deep fake – well, I'm going to stop saying – there's a de-aging – A deep cake. Yes. There's a de-aging Indiana Jones bit. I mean, it's blurry and crooked on a Twitter video. So it's a moment where we see him in the past, like in his prime. I mean, again, I watch it on my phone and it's crooked and somebody filmed it
Starting point is 00:26:03 and everyone's screaming. And somebody's filming it and there's an Instagram filter over it. It's a unified filter. They're just like, Jesus Christ. You could just make movies like that now. And you should, I guess. Or I'm against it. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Now, speaking of Herody, which we were talking about before. That's right, Herody. We're wondering what happened with Armor Wars. It disappeared off the slate for a bit. Uh-oh. The dog is wondering what's happening, Herody. We're wondering what happened with Armor Wars. It disappeared off the slate for a bit. It sure does. Uh-oh. The dog is wondering what's happening with Armor Wars. Did you even get in, Ollie?
Starting point is 00:26:31 You picked the lock. Yeah, she's crafty. Better not have picked that bloody lock, Mason. Disappeared off the slate, Armor Wars. Disappeared off the slate. It's back. Well, I did get, this TV series. Exactly. We're loving the era of Marvel TV, we said.
Starting point is 00:26:43 So where it gone? Great question. Anyway, THRs have confirmed. Yes. And then it the era of Marvel TV, we said. So where it gone? Great question. Anyway, THRs have confirmed. Yes. And then it was confirmed, I should say, that it is a movie now. My goodness. It's a movie now? It's a movie now? Now look, good. I think Marvel needs time to breathe and this week-to-week Marvel
Starting point is 00:27:00 stuff is like, people, for good or ill, are flipping out and they need to pull back let me ask you this james why do you think this decision was made do you think enough story not enough so that that's an option not enough story is is the the one you know based on the previous uh but then again you might ask yourself not enough story hasn't stopped them before has it well that well maybe they're learning from that. Maybe they think it's expensive. There's going to be a bunch of Iron Man suits in this.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Iron Man 4. Yeah, Iron Man 4. And then we do it in a movie and then we don't have to have, like, seven hours of Iron Man suits. Yeah, right, right. We can compress all that into. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I like this, though. I think more things should be like this where they go, this isn't enough, let's do a movie. I think they should. Maybe we should all take some time off this stuff. You know what I mean? How dare you? How dare you?
Starting point is 00:27:51 People don't get a chance to miss things and be like, remember that? I like that actually. Because everyone's constantly like this is ruining this and this is why or this is the best thing and kill yourself. The two states of being that exist. Yeah, I mean, I think you might be right. They might be learning from their mistakes. There's not enough plot to cover that.
Starting point is 00:28:11 They might just be, yeah, like they might be like, okay, well, people like Don Cheadle. It's not going to be Iron Man 4 in name, but it essentially is. Put a bunch of Iron Men in it. Iron Men. Put Iron Men in the trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like old footage. Yes,
Starting point is 00:28:26 exactly. So the timeline thus far, so we've got upcoming, we've got Wakanda Forever, which we're going to see the debut of Riri Williams as Ironheart. Correct. Which I'm assuming she's going to be like the star pupil of that, like, Wakandan outreach science
Starting point is 00:28:42 project that they had at the end of the first one. Like, maybe they went to various places and they're like, this woman's a genius. Yeah, she's not from Wakanda, so that would make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we've got Secret Invasion, which, of course, Rhodey's going to be in. Maybe he's a Skrull.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Maybe he's not. Do you want me to check the order of these things? Yeah, if you could check the order. So we've got that, and then we've got the Ironheart TV series. Yeah. And then we've got Armor Wars. So here we go. So we've got the iron heart tv series yeah and then may like and then then we've got armor wars so here we go so we've got black panther in november okay then we've got ant-man and the wasp quantum man february uh then we've got guardians in may and then the marvels in june
Starting point is 00:29:17 okay and then blade which we'll talk about that might probably not be happening but that's not including shows because shows a lot of them don't have dates yet. Yeah, right, right, right. So we have a rough idea of what's coming next year, but we don't know when. Right. I mean, it wouldn't shock me at all. In fact, I would say it's pretty much a lock that Ironheart will be in Armor Wars, right? Because Brody would see Ironheart doing a thing and be like,
Starting point is 00:29:39 well, that's obviously stolen Stark technology. Let's do Armor Wars. And then meet up with her and realise it's not, and then they team up to fight everybody else. That would be cool. I'm excited for maybe the debut of like a Titanium Man or a Crimson Dynamo. Sure. There's a bunch of those they could do.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Or don't do maybe like an Armored suit. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's Armored War. Just a man on a bicycle. What am I saying? This guy's stolen Stark technology. He's got a repulsor-powered bicycle. Can it fly? No. No, you This guy's stolen Stark technology. He's got a repulsor-powered bicycle. Can it fly?
Starting point is 00:30:05 No. No, he just hit that wall real hard. No. So there you go. Remember that time Tony Stark hit that wall? Yeah. Well, that? That.
Starting point is 00:30:14 But he's not a main character, so he died. He died. He just died. It's bad. There you go. Now, this next segment of the show, I've written Blade, and then in brackets, oh, no. A lot of bad Blademies. You think there's going to be a regular I've written Blade and then in brackets, oh, no. A lot of bad Blade news.
Starting point is 00:30:26 You think there's going to be a regular segment called Blade, oh, no? I hope not. Is that people who see Blade maybe? Yes. Vampires, I'd imagine, mostly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or racists, you know? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:30:36 No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. Anyway, Basim Tariq, who was the director on this, was left. What? But don't worry he's still going to
Starting point is 00:30:46 serve as a producer which means nothing really and the production for this movie which doesn't currently have a director
Starting point is 00:30:52 starts on October 5th and you might be like that's this week I think that's in three days you think we could
Starting point is 00:30:58 put our hat in the ring it's ridiculous it's October already it's already the spookiest time of the year and I'm not just talking about tax time Mason
Starting point is 00:31:04 they don't have. That reminds me I've got to do my taxes. This is not happening, obviously. No, absolutely not. Unless they meant November 5th, which either way, that's not happening either. So this is why THR. Have you been confused by the fact that October's the 10th month?
Starting point is 00:31:18 Do you think maybe that's. Maybe, Mason. I get confused a lot. But I will say this. If it's out in November, it has to start now. Right. Around now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Marvel can turn around a movie in a year. They can't turn it around in less than a year, I don't think. Maybe. I don't know. Anyway, so THR said, due to continued shifts in our production schedule, sorry, this is an official statement to THR, due to our continued shifts in our production schedule,
Starting point is 00:31:41 Basim is no longer moving forward as director of Blade, but will remain as an executive producer on the film. We appreciate it, blah, blah, blah, hard work getting him, et cetera. So this is also via Jeff Snyder. Oh, yes, your mate. I'm told the current Blade script is roughly 90 pages, which would make it roughly 90 minutes, except a lot of those pages would be like, and then he does a big flip.
Starting point is 00:32:02 He does a big flip and they can't believe it. None of the vampires or racists can believe he did that. No, they go, oh no, Blade! This is a movie where the bad guys have a catchphrase and Blade does not have a catchphrase. And features exactly two lackluster action sequences. Now, I guess
Starting point is 00:32:20 we don't, action sequences aren't often much in a script, though. That's true. He did a big flip. He did a big flip and they kicked each other and everyone said no. I mean, I've literally never seen a Marvel MCU script. Like, I've never read one in real life. I'm sure they're available if you want to find one. Yeah, you can purchase one.
Starting point is 00:32:36 But what do the action sequences look like? It depends who's doing it. Yeah, right. Often it will just be they fight or they'll – some others. I think James Gunn. I was going to say James Gunn. Floss them out meticulously. Yeah, I imagine a James Gunn would do that because he has a certain amount
Starting point is 00:32:51 of creative freedom in that way. But a lot of, you know, like what we'd call like journeyman directors who were just brought in to do the character stuff, they'd be like, we've done all the action sequences already. Yeah, fuck off. Yeah, get out of here. Mahershala, though, of course, is taking on the Royal Blade, who was cast I think in 2018 or 2019 he came out on stage.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Was said to be very frustrated with the process. Feige is said to be spread too thin, but hey, that's just what my sources are telling me, don't shoot the messenger. I would have believed that about him being spread too thin. There's Marvel every week. Yeah, there sure is.
Starting point is 00:33:27 There's too much. Yeah. There's only so many times you can swap hats for different, you know, aspects of the franchise. Yeah, exactly. So this is also via Illuminerdi who said, Beau DiMaio is leading Marvel Studios' efforts to overhaul the movie, starting from scratch and writing a script that is essentially entirely new.
Starting point is 00:33:46 DiMaio's work, he's also worked on Moon Knight and essentially the head writer on X-Men 97, and this impressed Kevin Feige and other studio executives. I'm impressed. I like this. Aren't you also impressed? Drones? Is the other executives.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're all, yep. Very good, sir. Leading them to go, to hand over the raids to rebuild Blade's backstory from the ground up. Now, apparently, this is also a rumor, the original script was set in the 1920s, which I think is where his origin was maybe, included European vampires. Oh, I love a fancy vampire.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Right. And I love fancy vampires getting fucking wrecked, mate. I hope this is true yeah yeah yeah it's also been rumored that the draft of the story features multiple time jumps uh so post 1920s okay so you maybe want a fancy vampire what sort of vampires do we want do we want a vampire that transforms into a bat or do we want a vampire that's just a pale man they'd be doing vampire bats in um blade comics i should yeah they do all sorts of superhuman things. Your Marvel vampires can turn into a bat, can turn into a wolf, can turn into a mist.
Starting point is 00:34:49 They are also vulnerable to silver bullets. Am I vulnerable to that? Yes. It's the silver, though, isn't it? It's not the bullet. Yeah, it's the silver man, yeah. That'll upset you. So that's cool.
Starting point is 00:35:01 It is cool, I think, yeah. But do we want, like, I imagine what we'll get is closer to classic vampires as opposed to, like, you know, weird freaky vampires that can, you know. Like in Blade 2? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The vampire vampires? Vampire vampires, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I suspect we'll get less of that and more classic vampires going bleh and so forth. I would like a mix. Yeah, I mean, there could be different. I mean, obviously in the Twilight franchise we've got vampires from different regions and they had sort of different powers. Some are wolves. That is very true.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Some of those vampires are wolves if I remember those movies correctly. James, you've never played the Vampire the Masquerade games. No. Masquerade. The tabletop role-playing game and the video games. But in those games there are different clans of vampires and each of them sort of represent different myths of vampires. So there are vampires that look like your Nosferatu, Count,
Starting point is 00:35:55 whatever that guy's name is, you know, freaky vampires, and there's ones that look like European royalty and there's ones that are, you know, weird flesh-crafty monsters. Are there cool, like, emo-techno ones? There are emo-techno ones. are, you know, weird flesh crafty monsters. Are they cool like emo techno ones? They're emo techno ones. Yeah. Yeah. That's my favourite.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yeah. I've just downloaded an MP3, they say. Ooh. Yeah. I don't know how to get it to work in my car though. That's right. I've only got this CD player. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:36:17 If any and all of this is true, which a lot of it is because the director did leave. Yes, sure. This sucks. I really want, not an example. director did leave. Yes, sure. This sucks. I really want not an example. Shut up, Mason. I was about to hit the pun alert button. You can see me reaching for the big red button. I thought that was a laughter button.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Mason, bad news. Don't like this. So there you go. That's it. All that. I thought you were going to say there was a new bit of news and you were like, I thought you were leading into bad news. No, this is good news.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Okay. Unless you consider it bad news. Hugh Jackman. Oh. This is huge news. Can I jump in with one bit of news? Sure. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:36:53 God damn it. That's right. God damn it. Entertainment, I want to say weekly. Okay. Director James Gunn and Peacemaker actress Jennifer Holland to marry at ceremony packed with Marvel and DC stars. Isn't that lovely?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yes. That's lovely. Did you get an invite? Yeah, I could make it though. Oh, did you get an invite? Yeah, I was working. Just and DC stars. Isn't that lovely? Yes. That's lovely. Did you get an invite? Yeah, I could make it, though. Oh, did you get an invite? Yeah, I was working. Just my regular job. You got that shift.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, I had that late shift. My God. Night school holidays, I was also invited. Yeah, we were both invited. We're big time. He's fans of us because that time we annoyed him. Remember? Yeah, I remember.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't annoy him this time. No, he was very nice about it, actually. He's probably on his honeymoon. He probably is. Director James Gunn, Peacemaker star Jennifer Holland hit Instagram on Friday with photos of their wedding celebration in Aspen, Colorado.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Was John Cena there? John Cena was there. That's what I wanted to hear. You better believe it. Isn't there separate photos, the ones with the Guardians? There's a Peacemaker cast photo. Is that the actors who were in both? Are they in both photos?
Starting point is 00:37:41 I think so. Because there's a dude with a butterfly in him. Yeah. Rook is definitely in both sets of photos? I think so. Because there's a dude with a butterfly in him. Yeah. Rook is definitely in both sets of photos, I think. He's in Peacemaker? No, but he's in
Starting point is 00:37:49 Suicide Squad, yeah. Of course. Other highlights of the day include the wedding cake toppers designed by Funko, which Gunn said he wasn't allowed to see before the wedding
Starting point is 00:37:57 because Bride Pop's dress was too close a match to the real thing. Oh. Bit of fun. Bit of fun. Bit of fun. Your wife has recently
Starting point is 00:38:03 re-released your wedding photos. Re-released? Yeah, she's re-released it for a limited time. I think so, on Instagram. Yeah, recently. I did see that actually, yeah. Because you've been married for? Four times, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Oh. Wow. You get less marriages for murder. That is true. That was a good day, Mason. It's the last happy memory I have. No. Are you saying even, James, even, including all these podcasts you've done?
Starting point is 00:38:29 That is very much correct. Yeah, well. I remember this. Look how dark my hair is. Ooh, so rich and dark. God, incredible. There's a lot of greater still. Mason, you're Jackman's backman.
Starting point is 00:38:41 He sure is. Tal Backman, et cetera. Tal Backman. So he's going to be returning in Deadpool 3 in a trailer reveal that happened where Ryan Reynolds is like, I don't know what to do for Deadpool 3. Run out of ideas. I've got creatively bankrupt like all of Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That's right, that's right. Let's burn it all down. It's a good joke. And then Hugh Jackman happens to be in his home. I'm not joking. No. Presumably for good fun times and tequila. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Or gin or whatever he does. One of them, Ryan Reynolds has aviation gin and Hugh Jackman has another thing, doesn't he? I have no idea. I think he does. Probably does. He does. Boss, Hugo Boss something.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Sure. I feel like he's doing a Hugo Boss thing. And then, of course, it's revealed that, yeah, he's going to be returning in the role of Logan, which we'll talk about how, I guess, in a minute. And then we get the logo of Deadpool, then the Wolverine claw marks. Ew. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I just want to quickly mention as well on Big Sandwich this week, we moved up our movie commentary. We've done Deadpool 2. That's right. We thought, well, let's do Deadpool 2. Yeah. And there's actually a scene in that movie, which people might have seen, again, resurfacing on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:39:39 where he goes to visit X-Men Origins Wolverine, and he speaks to young Hugh Jackman. He goes, I'm going to come knocking on your door to play Logan again. That's right. So be ready and whatever. The circle is complete. The prophecy is true. I think this was always going to happen.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Oh, yeah, for sure. I think Hugh Jackman was lying when he told us he was done with the character of Wolverine Myson. And just before we get back into that, which we will momentarily, I've just remembered something I was going to say at the start of this episode, that this week upcoming on the 9th of October, I'm going to be part of Stupid Old Podfest. Our friends over at Stupid Old Studios are running a little fundraiser
Starting point is 00:40:16 to get their studio up and running. Amazing new site. Big-time supporters of Australian comedy and Australian podcasts and all sorts of stuff. So they're running 10 hours of live comedy podcast streaming all on one day, and I will be part of Sam Peterson's podcast, Confessions of the Idiots, along with Michelle Brazier and Broden Kelly. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Special guest. That's right, special guest. You're the least funny person on that panel, Mason. I know, but we're all equally good friends, so that counts for something. But if you want to check that out, you can either watch it live on the day or if you buy a ticket, you can stream it after the fact. You just go to sospresents.com. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I will be tuning in for some of that but not all of that, Mason. Terrific. A bunch of fantastic podcasts. Check out the lineup if you could, Mason. I won't. Check it out if you have time. Oh, okay, I'll check it out. I'll check it out.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Excellent stuff. Do go on. Plumbing the Death Star, Confessions of the Idiots, Don't You Know Who I Am, Two in the Think Tank, Kentucky Fried, Chat and Pop Gaze, Who Knew'll check it out. I'll check it out. Excellent stuff. Do go on. Plumbing the Death Star Confessions of the Idiots. Don't you know who I am? Two in the Think Tank. Kentucky Fried Chat and Pop Gaze. Who Knew It with Matt Stewart. Who Knew It with Matt Stewart. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:11 That's a new one. It is. Great stuff, Mason. And there was a second trailer. Did you see the second follow-up trailer? Oh, yes. James, they allege to answer a lot of questions about the various continuities and questions that-
Starting point is 00:41:25 How is this happening? How is this happening? All the questions the viewers have. And instead of bloody answering them, they pretend they're going to bloody answer them, and then there's some music. Some music goes on top of drums, and they have bloody answers.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I'll tell you that. But a bit of a joke there. There was some lip reading. Oh, yes. It's mostly been deciphered. And it's just like, and there's an explosion, and then there's a fight and whatever. So there's nothing actually there.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Okay, right. It was said that he wanted to do what, Rashomon style at one point. Do you remember he said that a few years back? I don't remember that. But so each character would have their own interpretation of events in the movie? Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And the other one is- Or just black and white and a murder. And the other thing, it was going to be a road trip movie at one point as well. And you theorized that it was going to be Deadpool and the actor Hugh Jackman. I would love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Well, that's your theory, right? Yeah. Also, we've got a video out, Mason, a few weeks back. It's called Six Marvel Characters the MCU Can't Move. And you, you stupid son of a bitch. Oh, what did I say? You said in this video, well, Hugh Jackman said he's never coming back as Logan. And then I said, well, we'll see, which I think completely nullifies the previous statement.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And all it says there is this comment aged well. Oh, this aged like milk. Oh, actually, he is coming back. Oh, I don't know if you heard, but this video is out of date now because Deadpool. I live in the future, you fucking idiot. I live where you live. I don't live in this video.
Starting point is 00:42:41 What are you, fucking stupid? Is your brain broken? James, you live in that video. you're in that video right now i feel like i'm in this fucking video james just just breathe and focus anyway rob the space knight is a copy is a toy character and you can't get the car they lost the rights to the characters so you can't see you're in the video here's one hugh jackman is done with being wolverine hugh jackman will be back as wolverine in deadpool 3 which was set up in deadpool 2 thanks comment from four hours ago really great this is all engagement james i think it's good i know but that's part of me is like leave a pin comment that's like hey shut up another part of me is
Starting point is 00:43:19 like this video is doing well and do i just let this ride? This didn't age well. Because when you go to like The Guardian, if you go look at a news article on The Guardian and it's an old one, it'll be like this is an article from four years ago. Like it's right at the top so you know. Yeah, yeah. So you know. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:37 This one says Hugh is back to laughing faces. Oh, so they're weeping. If only they could have anticipated you and Ryan. This is your fault, by the way, for saying that. I know. I did it on purpose. This didn't age well and it's only been a week. Hugh Jackman is back.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Rumour is Hugh Jackman is coming back as Wolverine for Deadpool 3 and the comment underneath is there's no rumour that's been confirmed. Can you, on YouTube, can you censor any comments that have a specific word in them? Yes. Well, just get rid of Wolverine. This video didn't age well. Hugh Jackman retired.
Starting point is 00:44:13 This quote aged well. He's done with Wolverine. We'll see. James, just mute the words Wolverine, Logan, Hugh Jackman, aged future video, quote, internet. Yeah, absolutely. The Hugh line, the Hugh Wolverine line is especially hilarious now. Hugh Jackman done with Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Especially hilarious. Especially this aged well. James, we're doing too many riffs, and by riffs I mean you going slowly insane overlooking comments on one of your own videos. You're right. Let's move forward. Anyway, they also mentioned in the video that, well, Logan is set in 2028.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah. So it could be set before Logan. But do you think there's going to be, like, I think there'll be like a glib remark as to when this is happening and how this is happening. Of course there'll be, yeah. That's right, yeah. You'll snatch him out of time or not even.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. And we'll just move forward. I mean, he's not going to be sad Wolverine. He's not going to be sad Wolverine from Logan. Who's dying. Yeah, it's just a. Maybe we'll get clone Wolverine from Logan. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Mean clone Wolverine. Mean clone Wolverine, yeah. Get the wrong one. Yeah. Again, I want it to be Hugh Jackman, as Hugh Jackman. Yeah. I don't think that's going to be it because people will be mad
Starting point is 00:45:27 but again like in the comic books we've had an old man Logan and we've had that character jump to the present day and we've had the present day one die and then he comes back and you know the idea that you can't enjoy the saga of Wolverine from X-Men 1 to Logan,
Starting point is 00:45:47 you can't enjoy that anymore because the movie came out afterwards where he's having a fun adventure, that's odd to me. Yeah. Like it's, you know, you can have that epic storyline and the send-off to the character and then just be like, and I know it's because they've tied the character and the actor together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he wants to do another one, so let him do another one.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And money. And money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he wants to do another one. Let him do it. So let him do another one. And money. And money. Yeah. $50 million probably. And all the aviation gin he can bathe in. Which would be none. Yeah. Because he wouldn't want any of it.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It'd be bad for your pores. It'd dry out your pores, I think, eventually. And he wouldn't want to drink any because he's got to be getting abs for doing Wolverine again. So he's going to be in the costume, right? What if he's in that yellow costume that they teased? Oh, the one from- The one they teased in the Wolverine or- You mean in the deleted scene? Yes he's in that yellow costume that they teased oh the one the one they
Starting point is 00:46:25 teased in the wolverine or you mean in the deleted scene yes yes now give him the spandex has he ever had the never the the the big wings on the head no never nothing i reckon it'll be that one because that one looks like that one meshes with the deadpool aesthetic and it looks like the x-men costumes in yeah Deadpool movies. The closest thing would probably be that they've done is I guess in I think it's in the third X-Men movie it's got like I think he's got yellow lining. Yeah. And I guess the date of future past is.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah. But he never really wears them. No. He doesn't wear a mask. Okay. No, he doesn't. I reckon it's going to be that one if I had to guess. Because this is going to be all about, and people are already mad,
Starting point is 00:47:04 but this is going to be about fan service. Everybody out there who's mad, this is going to be every bit and every joke that people have made about Wolverine and all the stuff from the comic books that people like. Why has he never done this or why has he never done that or why has he never worn this costume? They're going to put that in this movie. I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Wolverine's going to be like, I'm having a bad time of this. I'm not loving the jokes that this guy's making. That's right. I'm serious. And Deadpool will be like, look at my balls. Correct, yes. Yeah. And we will all stand as one and cheer in the cinemas.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Now, John Krasinski also said something afterwards. He was like, is this my movie as well? Apparently he's also doing a movie with Ryan Reynolds as well. But that got me thinking. Oh, yes. Do you think, because I know he nearly, or apparently at least looked into it, tried to get Chris Evans for the Human Torch in Deadpool 2.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Do you think we're going to get Krasinski's Mr. Fantastic? We will certainly get some multiversal hijinks, I think. Now that the multiverse is on the table. Does it have to be multiverse, or can it just be he opens the door and somebody's standing there? That's exactly right. Yeah, no, I think that... There's no timeline.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah, I don't think there'll be any... I i don't think there'll be any i don't necessarily think there'll be any portals or anything i i wouldn't even rule out the the you know uh the thing that they do at the oscars or the mtv movie awards or whatever where he just walks through the set like behind the scenes of the set and he talks to the grip or whatever do you think they're allowed to break the continuity and the real and the fact that the realism of the MCU to be like, this is a movie and you're watching movies? I don't know. You're watching movie.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Do you know what I mean, though? Only if they point to the screen and go, this is the MCU and you're watching movie. But like in terms of like can he break the illusion of it? Yeah, well, Jennifer Walters can. Yeah, that's true. But she never walks behind the set. Not yet, but Deadpool has more powers.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yes, or equal powers. Well, he has equal powers, but he has more standing in the fan community, I think. Well, that is certainly true. So I think if anybody could do that, he could. Yeah. But I kind of feel like She-Hulk has kind of been the soft launch for you can talk to the audience if you want.
Starting point is 00:49:08 In the MCU specifically, yeah. Well, she was the comfortable character. She did it before him. Yes, she did, yes. Wow. I'm still mad about that, but it is what it is. Ultimately, though, this is good and interesting, I feel. I think it's good and interesting, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And, you know, I think it leaves – I'm hoping that – we talked about Deadpool 2 because we talked over it, as mentioned. It's linked below if you want to check it out. We didn't talk about it. No, no. But I like Deadpool 2 better than Deadpool 1 because the budget is bigger and you're allowed to be like, he's the juggernaut. He's Cable.
Starting point is 00:49:40 He's a huge action sequence. He's a Hugh Jackman sequence. Yes. There's some really good action in a Hugh Jackman sequence. Yes. There's some really good action in that movie and just the expanding roster of weird characters and they bring in X-Force
Starting point is 00:49:49 and they kill them all immediately. Yeah. There's a lot of things you can do now with a budget and a world like this and to open it up even more. He's talking about DC movies in there.
Starting point is 00:49:58 He's like, this is the DC, this is Dark Lake, this is the DC universe. Maybe this time he'll mention the Image universe. Or the Malibu Comics universe. Or Malibu Stacy.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yes. The action figure from The Simpsons. Yes, yes. So I just think, I mean, that could also blow up in their face. Ryan Reynolds, if you're listening, or Hugh Jackman, if you're listening. Or our friend Hollywood Pete, who knows Hugh Jackman. If he's listening, if he could pass along. Please.
Starting point is 00:50:19 If we could request a reference to Malibu Comics. Specifically the Malibu Ultraverse. Okay. Prime, firearm, prototype, mantra. We've got one message that we can pass on. All of this. Do you think maybe we should have thought of a thing together? No, it's too late.
Starting point is 00:50:35 No, no, that's fine. That's what we want. That's what we want, James. I don't think. You brought it up. Some of those might not be real as well. Maybe. Maybe I'm making them up.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Maybe I got the names wrong. I can't remember. So this actually has a release date. That was one of the gaps in the MCU. One of the mysterious ones. And we were like, what's this? Which we knew it was coming. We didn't have the release date of it.
Starting point is 00:50:59 So it's September 6th, 2024. So this is two years away, which seems like a good amount of time. Sean Levy, who's directed the one where he's fighting with his own dad. His own dad, Space Fighter. He's got a lightsaber, but it's not a lightsaber. Lightsaber thing, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did he also do Free Guy? Free Guy, he did Free Guy as well. He did Free Guy and I'm My Own Dad, Laser Space Fighter.
Starting point is 00:51:19 But Mark Ruffalo is also my dad. Mark Ruffalo is my dad. Terrific stuff. There you go. There's an evil lady. There's two evil ladies. Two evil ladies. And they're the same lady, but one's in the past. One's thealo is my dad. Terrific stuff. There you go. There's an evil lady. There's two evil ladies. Two evil ladies. And they're the same lady, but one's in the past.
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Starting point is 00:52:29 Huge tech companies in America, Mason, they pay next to nothing in taxes. What? Boo! Yeah, boo. Meaning that they barely give anything back to society, the society that made them rich. They seem very bad. I agree. Now, they also, they might not do a lot of giving,
Starting point is 00:52:44 but I'll tell you this much. Oh, yeah. They sure do a lot of taking. That's the opposite of giving. I agree. Now, they also, they might not do a lot of giving, but I'll tell you this much. Oh, yeah. They sure do a lot of taking. That's the opposite of giving. I agree. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking about how these tech companies enrich themselves by taking your personal data. How dare they?
Starting point is 00:52:55 I agree. That's my data. They grab your website history, your email metadata, and your video searches to create a detailed profile on you, and they sell that off to the highest bidder. Well, I say get your hands off all that stuff. I agree. Companies aren't just selling products anymore, Mason. They're selling you specifically and people listening to this.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I don't want to be sold. You have become the product. I don't want to be a product. I want to be a man. Well, Mason, to protect your identity. I want to be a man. You can be a man. Okay, great.
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Starting point is 00:54:37 And Mason, you can be a man again and not a product. Yeah. I'm a man. He's a man, everyone. Now, Mason, this is actually the perfect jumping off point, this Hugh Jackman. He's known for his perfect jumps, isn't he? He really is.
Starting point is 00:54:50 He's going to blow it, isn't he? You just bloody wait, mate. So I want to talk about actors who said they'd never do a particular role again and then went, fine, I'll do it. A bit of never say never again, you might say. That's definitely going to be on the list today, Mason. Now, because I want to determine what's the reason for an actor to come back
Starting point is 00:55:08 but it's always money is the number one. But how much money? How much money, which I have for most of these. And how much drama? And how much spite? How much do they hate the studio and who do they hate specifically working at the studio? Is there a kid who lives next door who's mean to them and they're like
Starting point is 00:55:24 well I'm going to show you, kid. Exactly. These are all great points. So for the first, let's start with Hugh Jackman, good as any. So for the first X-Men movie, he made a paltry $500,000. Embarrassing. This is all USD, by the way. For the second.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Is that more than some? That would be more than some. Like what did Chris Evans get? It was something like. It was something like $390,000 or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Hemsworth got about $300,000 for Thor as well. Now they're like $1,500,000.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But they hadn't been in Paperback Hero, obviously. No, that's true. So obviously he was relatively unknown. He was known a little bit in Australia. He'd done stage performances, et cetera. It was supposed to be Dugray Scott. We've talked about it. They wanted Russell Crowe.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Russell Crowe also recommended Hugh Jackman apparently. But he ended up getting a million dollars for the second X-Men movie. Which also makes sense because it's an ensemble and they're still like, who's the breakout character? That's obviously him. And the third movie, X3, he got five million dollars.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Now X-Men Origins Wolverine, which is a movie I'm researching for another thing which I don't want to talk about yet, Mason. Now X-Men Origins Wolverine Oh yeah The good one Yes the good one Which is a movie I'm researching for another thing Which I don't want to talk about He actually made 20 million dollars for that Wow wow wow Which is incredible
Starting point is 00:56:34 Because that I guess It's the worst one But it also makes sense because outside of him Who are the stars of that Exactly the premise was going to be We're going to do X-Men Origins and all the other heroes, but that was, you know, very pie in the sky in the sense that who else has an origin
Starting point is 00:56:52 that interesting? Well, a lot of them, but they don't care. And it doesn't translate well necessarily to the big screen. They didn't try, though, either, did they? No, that's true, yes. They mashed a few of them together in, them together in X-Men Origins, whatever it is, first class. But then they just turned those into boring X-Men movies.
Starting point is 00:57:10 They did. Yeah. Now, he actually took a pay cut for Logan to make it R-rated. Oh, yes. But I think he got a back-end deal on that, so he probably did well and then said, I'll never do it again, and now he's back, presumably for the standard fee for something like this
Starting point is 00:57:23 is about $20 million. Sure is, yeah. Now, I do think- An unfath And now he's back, presumably for the standard fee for something like this is about $20 million. Sure is, yeah. Now, I do think- An unfathomable amount of money, really. But I think he likes to do this stuff so he can do Broadway stuff as well and smaller projects where he's doing Broadway stuff on theaters. Or doing one of those ones where he's a man in a suit and he's a senator and they're like,
Starting point is 00:57:41 you've done some stuff, Senator, and we know. And he's like, well, you- You don't know anything. Yeah, you don't. I actually know, and we know. And he's like, well, you. You don't know anything. Yeah, you don't. I actually know more things than you. Yeah, then he goes to jail probably. He goes to jail. Yeah, but he does a few of those, the clean-shaven Hugh Jackman look.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Yeah, he does a lot of that, doesn't he? Yeah, it's odd seeing him like that. Or that one where he reminisces about his dreams or his. Oh, where he thinks about his memories. Yeah, that's the one, yes. Reminiscences. Yeah, reminiscences. I'm a nin or what's one. Reminiscences. Yeah, reminiscences. Reminiscences.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I'm a man, I watch that. Reminiscences. I'm reminiscing. I'm reminiscing about nin. Help, I'm stuck in the reminiscing machine. Oh, no. It's reminiscing my memories. But if we pull you out, you'll die in real life and also in your memories.
Starting point is 00:58:18 So we can't do that. So you're going to have to go through your memories. Nah, just open it, I reckon. Let me out. Oh, that worked. Well, good night. See you tomorrow. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Do you mind if I take a drink from the fridge? Well, normally I'd add it to your tab, but it's fine. You just take that one. I'll write it off. I'll write it off. It's fine. You did get caught in the reminiscence machine. That's true, yes.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah. You waive your right to a lawsuit if you take the drink, though. Here's an interesting one. This is Linda Hamilton. Okay, so the revelation there is he just wants to do this again. Yeah, and money. And money, okay, sure. Yeah, but I think he likes it.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I think he does love it, like really. Yeah. Yeah, and it's the role that made him famous. Yeah, yeah. And I think also. I mean, a lot of these are the role that made them famous. I'm sure. And I feel like, again, we don't know Hugh Jackman from Bloody Mara,
Starting point is 00:59:04 but I feel he just likes palling around on set. Yeah. And why wouldn't you want to pal around with your pal Ryan Reynolds? They're pals. Mr. Ryan Reynolds, you know. Because they haven't really had any screen. I mean, they had that. They were in X-Men Origins Wolverine, but they weren't.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Have they ever shared screen time in a movie? Yeah, in X-Men Origins Wolverine. They're in that lift. Oh, sorry. They're in that lift. A more recent movie. No, not in a good movie, no. I forgot they were actually in a movie together. Yeah, X-Men Origins Wolverine. They're in that lift. Oh, sorry. They're in that lift? No, not in a good movie. I forgot they were actually in a movie together.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Because when we think of Wolverine versus Deadpool, we think of the – with the body double. And where he's using like archival footage for the – Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or he's stapling Hugh Jackman to his face and et cetera. Yeah. Anyway, let's talk about Linda Hamilton. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Who returned to the role of Sarah Connor at age 62 for the movie Terminator Dark Fate. That's right. Bearing in mind she'd turned it down before. She didn't want to do T3. She did a voiceover in Terminator 4. She had like recordings that she left for John Connor. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Okay. So here's how it happened. What happened in 5? Or is Dark Fate 5? 5 is Genesis. Amelia Clarke was Sarah Connor in Genesis. Yes, correct. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So she didn't get much for the first Terminator, but for the second Terminator she got $1 million. And she got all buff and all of that. And it's an incredible performance. Which also I think is unfair because Arnold got $12 million for that. And he actually got fatter. Have you seen that guy? Ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:00:20 But, look, I also think, look, I understand because he was the biggest star at the time. Sure. In the world, really. In the world, yeah. But she's amazing in that movie. Oh, yeah also think, look, I understand because he was the biggest star at the time. Sure. But she's- In the world, really. In the world, yeah. But she's amazing in that movie. Oh, yeah, definitely, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:29 But I guess the other thing is she was married to James Cameron at the time. So there would have been benefits to being married to James Cameron. Get to go on a submarine. Get to go on a submarine. But also, like, you know, you're sharing income. That's true. I hope so, at least. So she'd be getting that million dollars.
Starting point is 01:00:43 She'd be like, oh, we're putting this in the joint bank account, are we? Yeah, exactly. All right. Wow. Real drop in the ocean for Mr. Bloody James Cameron. I completely – well, that's very good, Mason. But the thing is as well, there was rumors that he cheated on her in the mid to late 90s.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I don't know whether this is true. And then she got apparently $50 million in the divorce. I see. So she doesn't need to work. Right. Right? But also it's funny if she is in a sequel to a movie that her husband made but he's not involved in any way, I guess.
Starting point is 01:01:15 No, he's involved in that quite a lot. Duff, right? Yeah. Oh, okay, right. Apparently what Tim Millers talked about who directed it was like I didn't like the process of working on that because I felt like we were just like going up against each other. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Again, I think of the Terminator sequels, it's by far the best. What, even after Terminator 2? Interesting take you've gone there. Fuck you, Mason. You've gone too far, James. Well, I've said it. That's how your brain works. So that's it.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Yeah, that's your taste and opinions. Yeah. She also trained for a year. She's talked about how, like, I don't have any of the hormones that I used to have, so it was much harder to get into shape because I'm older. I think she's good in that movie as well. I agree, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:53 But do you think she did it for money? I couldn't find a definitive figure on this either. I would say at the very least $5 million, if not more. But you're saying she got $50 million into the divorce. Yeah. Hmm. I don't know. I wonder if – so was James Cameron on set for a significant portion?
Starting point is 01:02:11 I don't know about that, but I know he was heavily involved in crafting the story. Right. I don't know. Maybe she was just in it for – maybe she was just like, I want to put in a better performance than I did in T2 or whatever or T1. Impossible. Those are both incredible movies. Maybe she was like, I want to put in a better performance than Emilia Clarke did in T2 or whatever or T1. Those are both incredible movies.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Maybe she was like, I want to put in a better performance than Emilia Clarke did in T5. You don't need to do any of that. Maybe I wanted to put in a better performance than Claire Danes in T3, which was a different character, but still. I don't like Claire Danes, she said. I hated my so-called life, she said. Wow, really?
Starting point is 01:02:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talking about bringing that back as well, that show I didn't watch. She's also mentioned like she never wants to do it again she's like i'm done with this i probably shouldn't have done it she's like i don't really i don't think it's a good movie it's missing something okay and i shouldn't and i don't want to do it again and i don't think she will i think terminator i mean they're franchises if they continue the show in an animated thing or a live action show maybe she'll pop up. But as like a, they're never going to not,
Starting point is 01:03:11 I can't see any time soon taking a swing at Terminator like this, putting like $200 million into an R-rated Terminator sequel. Let me pitch this to you, James, bearing in mind you cannot veto it for a variety of reasons. Terminator babies. And their babies are Terminators or they're terminating babies or both? Oh, no, that's actually, that actually quite loaded now that I think about it, the idea of terminating babies. We can't veto it though, can we?
Starting point is 01:03:27 That's true. I'm going to say all the characters are babies. Okay. Some time travel incident has happened. So Arnold's a baby, he's a baby Terminator, and Linda Hamilton's a baby. The time travel turned him into a baby? Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Okay, but a robot baby. Turned everybody into a baby, yes. In the world. Yeah, yeah. So Sarah Connor's a baby. Wouldn't you prefer that they were toddlers so they can move? It's like Muppet babies. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:52 So she's like more of a toddler, but John Connor is smaller. Okay. She can carry a little baby John Connor. There's a baby Miles Dyson. Okay. There's a baby that psychiatrist who keeps coming around and getting shocked by the Terminator giving him PTSD and the cigarette falls out of his mouth. But it's like a candy cigarette because he's a baby, that psychiatrist who keeps coming around and getting shocked by the Terminator giving him PTSD and the cigarette falls out of his mouth.
Starting point is 01:04:07 But it's like a candy cigarette because he's a baby. No, it's a real cigarette. Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. This is what I need. I need honest feedback and not vetoes. This is how we get movie gold.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Are you saying Linda Hamilton would return for this? Yes. To DH her, like the movie Little Man. Yeah. The Wayans movie. Because I snuck it into a contract for Dark Side. I flew to America specifically. I tricked everyone.
Starting point is 01:04:30 They all have to do it. Terrific stuff. Anyway, I think it was partially money but more like, sure, that's what it seems like to me. The baby T-1000 but he can only turn into little things. Oh, like a set of blocks or something. Yes. Like one of those wheelie things you push and they've got the balls in them
Starting point is 01:04:48 and they pop like popcorn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's a chase sequence and he's in one of those yellow Tonka trucks. Yeah, very good. Okay, I love all of that. There you go. Let's talk about Michael Keaton though. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Of course, he's returning in Batgirl, The Flash, and Aquaman 2. If any of those are gone. They're definitely gone forever so that some have been deleted from servers none of that's coming back that girl is dead yes it seems for a while at the very least some to all of his scenes might have been removed from aquaman because ben affleck is back yeah and the flash there's a lot happening with the flash but i think it will be released it seems at this point. Yeah, because what other options do they have? Let's just wait and see.
Starting point is 01:05:27 It's too expensive to appreciate. There's another bit of news from this week. There's an animated series called Final Space, which is owned by Warner Brothers. And they've just, he put out a statement, they've just like, they've taken it off streaming or any place where they can contractually remove it from streaming, they're taking it off.
Starting point is 01:05:45 They're just going to, they're taking it off. Yeah. They're not going to release any physical versions. It's just gone. Ridiculous. I mean, people can steal it. I watched a few seasons of that. I thought I quite enjoyed it. It got better, I think.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yeah, I agree. So he was paid $5 million for Batman. Yes. Original Batman. He was paid $11 million. People were ropeable. They were. They were steaming.
Starting point is 01:06:04 They were spitting chips. They were. They were steaming. They were spitting chips. They were. They were steaming and spitting chips? Yes. They were steaming, comma, and they were spitting chips. Oh, they have steamed chips in England, don't they? Yes, that's right. He was paid $11 million for Batman Returns.
Starting point is 01:06:16 God, this is big money. And for three he was offered $15 million. But he turned it down. But that was also because Burton was gone. He didn't want to do a shoe market. He thought it was silly and whatever. Yeah, right, right, right. And so he just, and, you know, he was never against it,
Starting point is 01:06:30 but he was just like, ah, that's not really, I'm not interested in this. So I think this is the challenge of doing it again, but they would have given him a lot of money to do these things that he's not even feeling anymore. Do you think they're going, we're killing the Keaton stuff now, we're not going back to that? We don't know yet, I guess. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I mean, also, there is still time to replace him with Ben Affleck's Batman or Pattinson's Batman somehow. Like, if it is crucial to the plot that The Flash meets a parallel universe Batman that is an Affleck's Batman, they could do Pattinson Batman. They could find another option. Because they might be like, it's too confusing if we've got a – we have a maximum of two Batmans at any time, two Batmans, and we're going to go with Pattinson and Affleck maybe.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Now the reason also isn't that they put in Affleck is because this is potentially – Aquaman 2, even though it's out in December of next year, Maybe. Now, the reason also isn't that they put in Affleck is because this is potentially, Aquaman 2, even though it's out in December of next year, could potentially happen before The Flash. Maybe. Depending on what happens with The Flash. Is that right? That's correct, yes.
Starting point is 01:07:33 But I don't know what's happening. He could still be in The Flash. It could be both Batman. But that also might be confusing depending on when this comes out. We'll figure it out at some point. We'll have to come back to this. But anyway, I don't know. It's part of an ensemble.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I don't know whether we would have – I don't think he's going to be getting a $15 million paycheck, maybe collectively for all of it. I feel like – But like his roles aren't big in this stuff. I feel at some point in the near future, Keaton will just tell us how much money he got paid. Like he seems the kind of guy who'd be like, yeah, they gave me $10 million for this for two scenes.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And I was like, yep. You have grades? Just put it in my car. Put a big bag of money in my car. My car got stolen, did it? Okay. This guy'll roll with anything. He's rich. It doesn't matter. Did you like Birdman? I don't think I finished Birdman, but I did. Okay, great. But I paused it for
Starting point is 01:08:19 some reason and then I didn't come back to it. Did you like it? I did like it, yeah. I should give it a rewatch. It's on everything now. I heard Michael Keaton is going to get Warner Brothers to delete it because he hates you. That's what I heard. Mason, Sean Connery, he returned to James Bond thrice. Oh. I'm going to go through this.
Starting point is 01:08:36 This one's interesting. The other one's more interesting. This is interesting. Okay, great. He got $16,000 for Doctor No. Yes. We're talking spite. This, I feel, is unless you've got more000 for Dr. No. Yes. We're talking spite, this I feel. Unless you've got more up the pipe, this Connery I think is maximum spite.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Nothing is more spiteful than this. So they also, to be fair with Dr. No, they didn't know that it was going to be huge. And also $16,000. What year was Dr. No? I'll look it up. 1962, I want to say. I'm going to calculate it. I was going to do the 1962, I want to say. Okay, all right, all right. I'm going to calculate it.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I was going to do the calculations, but I didn't. 62, you're right. So that's American dollars. Yes. Okay, right. Okay, continue with your talks. So he did a few more, but he never got the pay rise that he was after. Yes, that's true.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Despite him doing really well. He always felt he was very hard done by, I think, by the Broccoli family. I mean, he was initially, but then everything kind of worked out for him. So then Lazenby did one. And because people hated Lazenby at the time, but people have since come around on it. And also the Lazenby one didn't do terribly commercially either. Like it did okay.
Starting point is 01:09:36 But Lazenby also didn't sign on for more than one because he didn't want to get typecast because he was a moron. So they went. Hey, that's our George Lazerby you're talking about. That's our moron. Yeah, that's right. George Lazerby will say anything in an interview as well, by the way. That's true.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Look up any interview of George Lazerby. He's talking about all the Bond women he's slept with at different conventions. What, like Bond girls or just fans? No, no, women who are now like to do the tours and whatever. Oh, okay, right, right. He talks about them, whatever, yeah. He's just having a great time.
Starting point is 01:10:07 He's the very definition of Aussie larrikin. Yeah, well, that's how he got the role. He just went, I'm James Bond, and they went, all right. You're going to give it to me. That's pretty much what happened though. It would never happen now. That's true. So he came back for Diamond.
Starting point is 01:10:19 He had to be on TikTok. The next George Lazenby is on TikTok. Really? Yes. So he came back in the early 70s. George Flizenby. He did the hands. He did the hands, everyone.
Starting point is 01:10:32 I did the hands. It's true. I was like, what's a cool current reference? Hands. Yeah. He got one point. Which, you know, George Crimsonby. It could turn out that way.
Starting point is 01:10:47 He got $1.25 million for Diamonds Are Forever in the early 70s. So that was like, just give them a bunch of money. Okay, now. That still didn't sit well with him. 1962, 16 grand would be, in today's money, $156,000. So that's a lot of money, but it's not. It's not. I mean, I think for the first one, it's understandable.
Starting point is 01:11:05 They didn't know it was going to be big. But from then on, that's not an acceptable amount. Yeah, and, you know, obviously it launched his career, but also he launched the behemoth that is the James Bond franchise. It's like Siegel and Schuster creating Superman. They didn't know at the time, but, you know, they wouldn't have any money without DC, but also DC wouldn't have their tentpole
Starting point is 01:11:28 character. It's kind of the same thing. That's right. Now, that 1.25 was a record amount of money for the time. I think it was then beaten, like, obviously since then, but like Brando, for example, the Superman got a crazy amount of money. Never Say Never Again was
Starting point is 01:11:44 then, would you want to talk about how that's – we're talking about this a little bit. Oh, well, look, very, very briefly. Due to some teeny, teeny, teeny, teeny, teeny idea theft on behalf of Ian Fleming, the creator of James Bond, a screenwriter named Kevin McClory gained the rights to make a James Bond movie seemingly in perpetuity based on the ideas he contributed to Ian Fleming's novel Thunderball, which Ian Fleming stole the ideas. And so they brought in McClory to be a producer on Thunderball with the understanding, the agreement they came to was he would promise to not make a Bond movie for 10 years after that,
Starting point is 01:12:25 thinking, I assume, well, if we let him make the movie he was envisioning in his head when he wrote the script for Thunderball, he'll stop wanting to make it. He's not going to make the movie Thunderball. He won't make Thunderball again if we've gotten him to make Thunderball. But then, of course, they've forgotten, as we know, that Spidey's a massive motivator. So like 10 years passed and he's like, well, I'm making it again.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And he made it in 1983 when Roger Moore was Bond. as we know that Spidey is a massive motivator. So like 10 years passed and he's like, well, I'm making it again. And he made it in 1983 when Roger Moore was Bond. He competed with Octopussy, I think. Yeah. Sean Connery slapped that wig back on his head. That's right. And he ran back out of there. Connery was originally going to be a producer on the movie, I believe, and then they were like, well, we can't find a good Bond.
Starting point is 01:13:03 And he's like, well, if you give me $6 million, I think it was. It was $3 million. $3 million, okay. Plus 15% of the gross. That'll do it. There we go. He did very well out of this. And his wife at the time, I believe, coined the name Never Say Never Again.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Because he said never again. He said never again. Yeah, and she was like, never say never again. Yeah. Also, it's rumored, also, he actually reprised Bond one more time for a From Russia With Love video game in the mid-2000s. And the rumour is for his voice and likeness for that, he got $1 million.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Nice. He's barely trying in that. I don't know if you've ever heard it. He's just Scottish. I haven't, no. He's just doing the, which is whatever. Like, he's a million years old. Who cares?
Starting point is 01:13:40 Now, this, I feel, is the reason he came back in the 80s is for Spike, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% to ruin the Broccoli family or take a big swipe at them because he always held a grudge. Apparently they made up when the Broccoli guy died at the end. I don't know whether that's true. Also, that Broccoli thing is not true.
Starting point is 01:13:59 People probably messaged you this week. It's pretty true. We talked about it last week. But in the 70s, he also had a series of flops. So he did The Man Who Would Be King. Like some did okay. Zardoz? Was that in the 70s?
Starting point is 01:14:13 Zardoz was in there. Robin and Marion, and I think also did okay. Outland, which is kind of a low-key kind of sci-fi movie. Yeah, we're talking about a high moon. Yeah, it's high moon. But apparently it's all right. But he didn't have a huge hit and it was a bunch of duds. And so I think that was also a factor in him coming back.
Starting point is 01:14:32 But it's mostly spite. Anyways, let's talk about Jamie Lee Curtis. Because she came back multiple times. She did two Halloween movies initially. Maybe three. It was a two because three was Season of the Witch, right? Which was unrelated I think that was four
Starting point is 01:14:46 yeah I don't think you're right okay great and then she came back about H2O in the late 90s and then the new Halloween relaunch
Starting point is 01:14:53 that they did did you drop something Mason no that was it so the original Halloween he who smelt it dealt it original Halloween Mason oh yes
Starting point is 01:15:02 8,000 that's an incredibly low budget movie 8,000 dollars for's an incredibly low-budget movie. $8,000 for that movie, where she's the lead, where nobody thought anything would happen. It's like the first slasher, so they're like, what is this? Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean. It's one of the early ones. It could have been one of those things
Starting point is 01:15:15 where they relegated to you couldn't get it. It would only be showed in grotty cinemas or people's basements or whatever. As far as they knew, it could have been, you know, so. Exactly. For the second Halloween, she got $100,000, which is, that's great. That's a huge improvement.
Starting point is 01:15:33 That is great. Now for H2O, I think it was 97 or 98. It might have been 98. She got $5 million. That's good. Why do you think she came back? Because $5 million, obviously. Yes. She was big in the 90s, though. It do you think she came back? Because five million, obviously. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:45 She was big in the 90s, though. It was weird because she was on Baywatch, but then she'd do like True Lies and this. Was she? Wasn't Jamie Lee Curtis in Baywatch? No. Is it that woman who looks like Jamie Lee Curtis? I think there's a woman who looks like, because they had the Pamela Anderson and there was- You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:16:00 What they had in Baywatch is they had Pamela Anderson and they had Michael Knight, David Hasselhoff, and then they also had on the team people who actually looked like actual lifeguards. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Was not. She wasn't at all. Did you Google was Jamie Lee Curtis in Baywatch?
Starting point is 01:16:17 And there's a big article on it. So, yeah. I'm an idiot. So I guess she wasn't a TV star. She was doing yogurt commercials and this. Yes. Wow. That's a real egg. She was doing yogurt commercials in this. Yes. Wow. That's a real egg on my face, Mason.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Sure is. But to be fair, I was joking. Oh, that's great. Perfect. I mean, that makes sense. 20 is a 20-year anniversary. I can understand the appeal of that. But then she's killed in Halloween Resurrections,
Starting point is 01:16:41 which is the sequel to that. She's barely in it, but she got $3 million, that appearance, if you recall correctly. And that one was purely a cash grab. Right. Because remember in the previous one she chopped off Michael Myers' head with an axe and she's like, we've done it. Oh, but then it turned out it was a different guy in the mask.
Starting point is 01:16:56 A different guy in whatever. And so she was like, okay, fine, I'll do it. Give me $3 million. Did we watch a bunch of these for something? We watched H2O when Halloween, the new one, came out. I feel maybe I went above and beyond and watched a bunch of them for no reason. Well, you're an insane person.
Starting point is 01:17:08 I know, right? Yeah. Now, in 2018, she returned again for what is essentially a reboot. Yeah. She probably did Halloween H20 to work with LL Cool J. Do you think? Yeah. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah, yeah. And then she got apparently estimated five new in for the new one in 2018, but I can tell you what, I got a cut of it and whatever. Hell, yeah. It's a trilogy, so she's cleaning up. I don't know. I see her in press stuff and she's like, this is a legacy and whatever, the characters.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I just don't believe it. So you've got to, in your research, you also scrutinized all the interviews with these people. Some of them. And judged their... I think I'm more like that last one. You were like, they acted in those movies, but they could also act in real life, I reckon.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I just think that last one was like Halloween Kills was bad. So that's why I'm like... You're giving it a no benefit of the doubt. Yeah. What if she was like, yeah, I'm back here. But you made me look like a fool for that Baywatch thing. Yeah. I'm here, look, I'm here because I really respect the legacy of the franchise
Starting point is 01:18:06 and, of course, you know, John Carpenter and he's an absolute genius, but also, you know, obviously this movie is bad. I just want everyone to know. I am a very good actor, but I could not lie and tell you that I thought it was good, it was bad. I mean, I'm a good enough actor where I could lie, but I'm rich, so I won't. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:18:22 John Carpenter, did he do Halloween? No. I won't make that up. He says that. Have you seen the interviews of him going around yeah and he's just yeah staring through people i'm glad we i'm glad we aren't interviewing him right now yeah there's a where he says a wonderful thing happens every time they like they're making you halloween movie i put out my hand and they they give me a check or whatever right and there's the other one where someone's like what happened escape from new york was great what happened with escape from la i think it's just a fan question and he goes fuck
Starting point is 01:18:49 you yeah he just doesn't care i love it uh mel gibson oh leetha weapon four i think he loves the lethal weapon movies doesn't he i mean he's's doing another one. He's going to be directing the new one since Richard Donner died. Right. They're all the same movie and I don't like them very much. Okay. Did you ever like them? You must have liked them at the time. I didn't remember which ones I'd seen.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Right. And then I watched them all and I'm like, this is the same movie four times. Except they get increasingly. The hair gets worse. The hair gets worse and they get more family friendly, I feel, is the. Yeah. Not much more. Yeah. Increasingly. The hair gets worse. The hair gets worse and they get more family friendly I feel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Not much more but there's less kind of man going to shoot himself in a trailer stuff. They fight gently. They do fight gently in three or possibly four, yes. We cut the bullets over. Like Murtaugh's family always get kidnapped. That's true. It's like literally the same thing. Sometimes there's a bomb in a toilet, yes.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Sometimes Chris Tucker is in them. Sometimes Joe Pesci the same thing. Sometimes there's a bomb in a toilet, yes. Sometimes Chris Tucker is in them. Sometimes Joe Pesci is in them. Yeah. Sometimes there's a bomb in a toilet. Sometimes there's a toilet on a bomb. That's right. Anyway, you got $25 million for Lethal Weapon 4. Wow.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Now, I think he likes this character. And the reason I say this is because he estimated, because I think he financed Passion of the Christ by himself. He made between $400 and $475 million. Wow. Mel Gibson is like beyond rich. Yeah. So he doesn't need to be doing anything.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Yeah. And how much money is he making on Lethal Weapon 5, really? How much money is Lethal Weapon 5 going to make, realistically? Is that a billion-dollar movie? It's not a billion-dollar movie, but I mean in the in the wake of, like, a Top Gun maverick. Yeah, but it's not. Maybe there's a bunch of dads out there who are like, oh, if there's another Lethal Weapon movie, I'm going to jump on that.
Starting point is 01:20:31 I mean, so are you Will of, like, Mel Gibson. He sucks. Yes. And he's not Australian. No, correct. But he's a pretty good director. Oh, yeah. So he could actually make a good Lethal Weapon movie.
Starting point is 01:20:44 I don't know, though. I don't see though. I just don't see how you get back those two. You need a younger cast like you do with Top Gun that people like. And that's really hard to do. I think Top Gun You need a complete
Starting point is 01:20:58 precinct of police officers seeing great balls of fire. No, no, no. Oh, old fashioned rock and roll. You can't do the of Fire. No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, old-fashioned rock and roll. All right. Yeah, that's right. Okay, cool, yeah. You can't do the same song. No.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Yeah. He also turned down Bond and Batman, I believe. He turned down, apparently, because I was reading up on this, he turned down, he was doing one of the Mad Maxes and he got asked about Bond and he's like, no, I don't want to do that shit. I wonder also a factor in a lot of these might be. And he saw Connery. That's why he's like, Connery's, no, I don't want to do that shit. I wonder also a factor in a lot of these might be. And he saw Connery.
Starting point is 01:21:25 That's why he's like, Connery's, no, I don't want to do that. Yeah. I wonder if he's like, I wonder if some of this one and perhaps some of the other ones kind of to cap off a legacy that started strong and went bad. I don't think it's ever. I think the first one's like an okay buddy cop thing, I guess, but then they keep making that up.
Starting point is 01:21:44 I'm not necessarily talking about Gibson exclusively. I reckon maybe some of these they're like, okay. Oh, definitely. Okay, we did a couple of good ones and the rest were trash, but if I do this final one, and I'm sure also, you know. Should I have put Stallone in this? I should have, right, for Rocky and Rambo. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:21:59 But we did it just then, so it's okay. I wonder if it's, you know, because some of these people, I'm sure, would have been getting really good money, but maybe they didn't have any creative input into what they were doing. Some do, some don't. That's a good point. Some, you know, force their way into the editing room or the writing room or whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:22:15 But I reckon some of them might have been like, well, I took $10 million for that movie and I just went in and I took the paycheck and it kind of sucked and I wish going back, I wish that I'd said, okay, maybe we change the character arc or we do the whatever. So maybe they come back and they're like, okay, well, now that we're in an era where I, the star, get a lot of say and I don't have to fight for it.
Starting point is 01:22:37 It's just implied that I can go in with my star power and tell people what to do. Now I come back and I'm like, this time there's going to be two bombs under the toilet. Do you want to talk about Daniel Craig then? Because I feel like you're talking about Daniel Craig. I didn't even think about Daniel Craig. I didn't, but I mean, he's, do you have that listed?
Starting point is 01:22:55 I do actually. I didn't mention it. But so I said the things that he reluctantly returns on is every James Bond film, including the first one that he did. So it's definitely a love-hate thing. So you've got $3.2 million for Casino Royale, and I think that makes sense because that's a proven franchise, and even though he wasn't a huge name.
Starting point is 01:23:16 He'd done Layer Cake. He'd done Layer Cake, but it's implied that he's going to be doing it for a while. Right. So you don't want to lowball him in his first one and then he's mad for the rest of it. Oh, the Broccoli's have learned that lesson. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:29 They lowballed Connery. They lowballed the Broccoli farmers. Yeah, did they? Yes. That made-up thing. Yes, the thing that is true, that is really true. He got $7.2 million for Quantum. He got $20 million for Skyfall, $30 million for Spectre.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Oh. He also said after he did Spectre, if you recall correctly, that he would kill himself if he did another board movie. I do remember that, yes. But then he took that back and he was like, I'm doing interviews all day every day. And then I think, though, the reason he came back, because he was, again, very rich at this point
Starting point is 01:24:02 and he'd done a bunch of other stuff where he'd made a bunch of money in. Visa commercials. Visa commercials, et cetera, and so forth. I think he came back for the reason that you said. Yeah. It's because the previous one was bad and he wanted to end on a high. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I think.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Because you don't want, you absolutely do not want, I mean, ideally you want all the movies you did in a franchise to be good. Well, that's not possible. That's very not possible. The last thing you want is a good one to start with and then the quality declines. Or it's perceived that the quality declines all the way down because at least if you go, at least if the first one is great
Starting point is 01:24:36 and the last one is great, people will go, well, you know, of varying quality, but boy, there are some real great ones in there, you know what I mean? Are there any movies though, franchises, I mean, I think Skyfall is good as well. Yeah. No, where the first one is good, everything's terrible, then the last one is good? Great question.
Starting point is 01:24:51 I bet somebody out there knows. Yeah. Don't know. I wish they were in the room with us, but they're not. It'd be great. Anyways, you've got 25 million. Roger Ebert, are you there? Mason.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Didn't he or the other guy die? They're both dead, I think. What? Siskel, Gene Siskel died? Yes. That's true. Okay. James is now Googling, did Gene Siskel die on the set of Baywatch?
Starting point is 01:25:12 I was actually going to make that joke. He died in 99. Yeah, that's a long time ago, James. He died a fucking ages ago. Yeah. Am I a stupid person, Mason? I don't want to answer that because you wouldn't understand the words I would use because they would contain more than two syllables. Anyway, you also got a huge back end on.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Oh, I've seen his huge back end. I saw him coming out of that ocean. It's true. Yeah. On No Time to Die. Yeah, of course, yeah. I think that one was a labour, I mean money, but I think that was like let's do a good one for real.
Starting point is 01:25:42 I was joking. Let's do a good one. I'm not going to kill myself, guys. Don't worry about it. You think that this is some elaborate ruse where I'm going to come in and then we're going to film the whole movie and we're going to do some really great work and then the last day I'm going to shoot myself in the head
Starting point is 01:25:54 with one of the prop guns. But actually I'm not. I was kidding when I said I was going to kill myself, guys. Yeah, but don't leave any guns. Don't leave any. For safety reasons not because I'm going to shoot myself. I also think. As you can see here, I have my wife, Rachel Weisz,
Starting point is 01:26:07 and my children here, and it would be very, very upsetting to them if I shot myself. They're going to be leaving, surely, but it's not. I've written them all like letters. They're going to open them later when I'm not around. I also think he wanted to kill Bond so he would never come back. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:26:28 There's still ways to do it. And people are still going to ask, do you regret killing your version of James Bond? And do you want to come back? He 100%, like he sat down with somebody. I bet he sat down with one of the, because he also, he had a lot of influence on the script and stuff. I bet he sat down with the screenwriters and went,
Starting point is 01:26:44 what is the final, what is the end point of this character So he had a lot of influence on the script and stuff. I bet he sat down with the screenwriters and went, what is the end point of this character that will have people asking the fewest number of questions? Oh, it's me getting absolutely annihilated? Well, then, yes. Let's go with that. Okay, cool. I think you should have seen him disintegrate, like the skin come off his face.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah. Like it's the end of Indiana Jones. Yeah. Yeah. And it just peels back all his skin and his bones and we see his brain and it's got like a royal seal on his brain. It's been branded in. And they go, Q, do you have any of James Bond's DNA in case cloning
Starting point is 01:27:21 could ever happen in this universe, which we know it couldn't. And Q says no. And I'm shooting myself. The technology is in my brain, but I'm shooting myself. No, it's not in my brain, but I'm shooting myself just in case. And they pan over and it's John Cleese. And he's like, I could clone him, actually. I'll clone him and then we'll climb on.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Don't worry about it. But he can't clone Daniel Craig? I don't know, man. Mason, Kim Cattrall for Sex and the City 1 and 2. Yes. She got $7 million for the first movie. Now, so was she reluctant to come back for the movie? Not for the first one, I believe, because there was $7 million.
Starting point is 01:28:01 This is a very suggestible style topic, I think. I agree. Then she got $10 million for the second movie. Okay. That one was definitely reluctant. That was a hundred. What's the salary spread here? Who's getting?
Starting point is 01:28:13 Pretty even now. Sarah Jessica Parker. I think Sarah Jessica Parker was the highest. Okay, right. But it's even other than that, I think, aside from, you know. And you've got to pay them relatively equally, but she doesn't like doing this or this character anymore or any of the people associated with this.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Though Samantha is coming back in the next series of and just like that somehow. A limousine will go past and a woman with a glove, like a gloved hand will come out and the three remaining characters will be like, oh, that was definitely Samantha. Now, she's currently. She'll be killed in a cluster bomb explosion. A woman in a veil will be killed in a cluster bomb explosion
Starting point is 01:28:53 as all her skin comes off. Now, they did that in Prison Break and the woman came back in Prison Break. Okay, right. Now, everyone in Just Like That gets a million dollars an episode, apparently, right? Okay. You're doing nine or ten a season.
Starting point is 01:29:08 You're doing very well. She doesn't need the money. Yes. Spite and hate and, like, just growing. I wouldn't even say. I think she's even past it. Okay. It means she's not coming back.
Starting point is 01:29:20 But you're saying she is coming back. I maintain, and I've said this to Claire because we did Suggestible in the City, our podcast, spin-off of our other podcast, Suggestible. Even less successful, Mason. Oh, that's great. I still think she will do it at one point. There's a fraction of me. I should say a fraction. Do you think it's because,
Starting point is 01:29:38 not because she's going to mend her fences with Sarah Jessica Barker and everybody she doesn't like on that show, but out of some sort of spite? Some sort of spite, like some sort of like you've grovelled and now I'm going to do it because you grovelled. Maybe. And there needs to be an element in the plot of the show that suggests I am back because you all grovelled.
Starting point is 01:29:56 I think it might be like let's get a bit of light on me, you know what I mean? Yeah. Let's get some sandwiches. Let's go to Katz's Deli and get some sandwiches. And mend some bridges, you know? Okay. And it's a successful show in terms of like people watch it and stuff.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Leonard Nimoy Mason. Oh, yes. You might know him as Spock. I do. He returned. Okay, so he has a complicated relationship with Spock. He definitely settled into it because- Well, he had two autobiographies of which-
Starting point is 01:30:23 1975 Spock. Both of which I've read. Yep. I am Spock. I am not Spies. 1975. Both of which I've read. I am not Spock. And then I am Spock, yes. From 20 years later in 1995. So that was obviously after the series where he got typecast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:39 And now he didn't want to come back to the movies because he was owed a bunch of merch rights. I see. So he was also not going to come back for the series. There was going to be a follow-up series. We talked about this with Ben Russell. Yes, Star Trek 2, Volume 2. Two, more, just watch. Just have a look at what's going on.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Star Wars, they'd made it into a movie, and then they got him back for that. He was then killed in Star Trek 2, seemingly not to return, then was brought back in the next movie. And then, of course... They probably guilted him into it. They're like, we're calling the next one to search for Spock and if you don't come back, that last scene is going to be a real bummer. Yeah, we couldn't find him actually.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Yeah, I don't know. We think somebody – like we put him in the bin and we checked the bin, but I think they took the bins out. They took the bins. They took the – I didn't see the truck, but I think I heard the truck and I think they took – so he's probably in the dump now. He's probably in the dump and rats are eating him.
Starting point is 01:31:27 We didn't find him. We didn't find him though. Do you want me to, I'll call the tip. They didn't answer. And then he came back. Imagine if they had answered though, John. I know. But then he did, he did next gen. We just got a bunch of poop and garbage and stuff so we can't tell the difference between that and Spock
Starting point is 01:31:47 actually because as far as we're concerned, he's the same as poop and garbage. Anyway, goodbye. Love you. We also found some space rats eating Spock, we think. In the poop. He came back for Next Gen, didn't he? Yes, he did.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Did at least one episode? Wait, did he? But he didn't do Generations. Sarek came back. No, Spock did come back. That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was in Baywatch. That's true.
Starting point is 01:32:12 But I think, though, the reason he kept doing those movies in the 80s is because he likes directing also. Yeah, that's probably it. And he probably got a paycheck for that as well, I assume. Yeah. Yeah. So we've added to the list. Money, Spite likes directing.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yep. Didn't want to end on a bad one. No. So there's four at this point. But he did because he did Into Darkness, which is the last one that he did. Yeah. So we've added to the list. Money, Spite, likes directing. Yep. Didn't want to end on a bad one. No. So there's four at this point. But he did because he did Into Darkness, which is the last one that he did. Yeah. Yeah. That one felt like completely unnecessary, him being in that one.
Starting point is 01:32:33 The idea of basing the time travel around him for that 2009 reboot I thought was really good and I thought he was good in that and whatever. But yeah. He seemed to like it, but also money. I'm going to say some of both maybe. I like the money, sure. Yeah. Same with this one I think also.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Sigourney Weaver for Alien Resurrections. Now for the original Alien she got $30,000. Ha! She got $1 million for the second movie, The Aliens. Now apparently also the studio weren't even. Are we calling it The Aliens? The Aliens. Look everyone, The Aliens.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Apparently the studio didn't even care whether she came back. But James Cameron was like, if I'm going to do this, she has to be in it. I need someone to maybe cheat on my wife with. So if you wouldn't mind. That's an unconfirmed rumor, says James Cameron. That's right. It was an unconfirmed rumor and then he puts a dollar sign at the end.
Starting point is 01:33:24 I'm not going to cheat on my wife with Paul Reiser because he's going to need that storyline for Mad About You in a few years' time. Did he cheat on his wife in Mad About You? No, wait, his wife cheated on him. What? Yeah, Helen Hunt. I thought they were mad about each other.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Yes, because of the impending cheating. Is that why they're on? Yes. Did that happen during the series or before the series? No, it happened during the series. It was towards the end. She slept with somebody else? Yes, I think so. Who was it? I don't know. the series. It was towards the end. She slept with somebody else? Yes, I think so.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Who was it? I don't know. God damn. Jason Sudeikis. What? No, I don't know. He was a child then. Anyway, she then was paid for Alien 3.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Yes. $5.5 million. Now, was Alien 3 the one where she was like, maybe I'll do it, maybe I won't do it, maybe I'll do it. That was the one where she said, I will do this movie, but I won't. But I will do no more movies. Sorry, she said she will do Aliens with no guns. The Aliens.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Yep. She has no guns. She wants to have sex with a xenomorph and she had to die. And those three things happened in Aliens 3 and 4. Huh. So I don't know whether that was a coincidence or not. There you go. But Aliens 2 is gun city, mate.
Starting point is 01:34:26 So we're calling it Aliens 2. What is it? Do you know what any movie is called, James? Is it called The Aliens? Do I need to know? You have to choose. Is it called The Aliens or is it called Aliens 2? Different foreign markets call it different things, basically.
Starting point is 01:34:40 That is true. Now, I also found a website. In Japan It was called Super Fun Happy Xenomorph. Hentai. Yes. So, Aliens 4. Yes. I found this website, this article where it talked about who got paid the most words per minute.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Oh, in terms of how many lines of dialogue? Because she's an alien hybrid in that. Yeah, she's a client and whatever. So she got $11 million, which means she got $23,128 per word for that movie, which is pretty incredible. Look, if that website has other movies on it and not just that movie, we should do an episode on that. I would love to just run out some numbers.
Starting point is 01:35:22 I'm happy to do that. Let's talk about Harrison Ford. Also, Ghostbusters. I don't know if you have that there, but I'm sure she was in and out with a bunch of Ghostbusters. I could have talked about all of everybody from Ghostbusters, but mostly Bill Murray. I think everyone else is just like, we'll do it.
Starting point is 01:35:37 We'll do it. We said we'd do it. We'll do it right now. I'm putting the suit on. I've been wearing the suit for weeks. It's just under my regular clothes. Harrison Ford. Which is also a set of overalls, but they're just my regular overalls.
Starting point is 01:35:51 So for Star Wars The Force Awakens, actually just to take it back a bit, you got $10,000 for A New Hope, but apparently also a quarter percent cut of that movie, which ended up being $2 million. Of course. That's wild. Because he has a small role in American Graffiti, right? He does.
Starting point is 01:36:06 And originally Lucas was like, I'm not going to cast him because I don't want to repeat castings or something like that. Yeah, and I think also he was at that point, like he was going to break big or was suspected of it. Right, okay, sure, sure. And that's why he got that deal. He got $100,000 for Empire, which he also got a quarter percent cut for. Does that include merchandise?
Starting point is 01:36:27 I don't know about that, but I know he got $1.4 million if you calculate it. And he got $500,000 for Jedi and then quarter percent cut of that, which is $1.6 million. Now, for the new trilogy, the first one he was in, he actually decided to come back before Mark Hamill. And then Mark Hamill was like, well, fuck, I have to do it now. Right, sure. Harrison Ford is doing it.
Starting point is 01:36:49 So he got paid $20 million for The Force Awakens plus half a percent of the profits, which ended up being $27 million. Wow. Now, I genuinely think he put his heart into it. Sure, uh-huh. But he doesn't give a shit about Star Wars, which is fine, which is very evident. Here's the dichotomy.
Starting point is 01:37:10 He doesn't care about Star Wars, but he's going to put in a good performance if you... If you make him. If you make him, sure, yeah. If you break his leg. He feels like a guy who's not going to embarrass himself on screen. He's not going to be like... He doesn't want the press to be like, he doesn't want, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:25 the press to be like, well, it seems like he didn't put in any effort there. Yeah, he really felt like he gave it his all. I will also say if we're talking pure money, like monetary reasons, he did The Rise of Skywalker, which would have been not very much, I'd imagine maybe a million, but that was like, that was 100% money. Yeah, right, sure. I don't think he that was 100% money. Yeah, right, sure.
Starting point is 01:37:45 I don't think he shaved or had a haircut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think his jacket was on backwards. Like, it was, yeah. God bless him. Here's a very interesting one. This is Robin Williams for the role of Aladdin. Oh, of course, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:59 For the role of the genie in Aladdin. Right, sure, sure, sure. I am fading fast, but I am enjoying this. Well, that's all right because you only have 40 more of these to go. So how many more do you have? I've got two, three. Is it two or is it three? Well, we did Daniel Craig.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Great. Because I moved it up. Great. So he recorded 30 hours of scripted and improv lines for Aladdin. I'm Jack Nicholson. RIP. Because he wanted to leave something wonderful behind for his kids. Now, as a result of this, he was paid $75,000.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Normally, he asks for $8 million. That was his asking price at this time. He's a big star. Yeah, he was. But in exchange, didn't he say something like he had some stipulations about not overly commercializing the character, right? Yeah, at all. So Robin Williams stipulated that this pay cut was in exchange
Starting point is 01:38:48 for his voice not being included on the Aladdin merchandise, which they immediately broke. So he agreed then. Oh, I'm Jack Nicholson. That's a handgun. It's an Aladdin themed handgun. Oh, really? Not from the Joker?
Starting point is 01:39:03 They just went, we're doing it for the Batman merch. We're going to run moves. I agree. So he agreed to the deal. And then when the movie turned out to be a big hit, sorry, then Disney said, was it Michael Eisner? I can't remember. Somebody terrible was in charge of Disney said,
Starting point is 01:39:18 he agreed to the deal. And then when the movie turned out to be a big hit, he didn't like the deal he had made, which is not true because apparently then they sent the actor an apology in the form of a Pablo Picasso painting estimated at the time to be worth one million. Wow. So it was a self-portrait of the artist as Vincent van Gogh. Pick a lane, mate.
Starting point is 01:39:38 What the fuck is that? Which apparently- Grow up, Picasso. Grow up, mate. Which apparently. Grow up, Picasso. Grow up, mate. Which apparently Robert Williams said clashed with his Wilder home decor.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Oh. Now, here's the thing. Dan Castanello. Yes. Homer Simpson. Sure. He voiced the genie in Aladdin 2. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Directed DVD. But Robin Williams actually was then approached for the role of the genie in Aladdin 3, which was also direct. It's not DVD. it's VHS. You know what I'm saying. It was the 90s. Yes, yes, yes. And he was offered not only an apology from John Roth from Disney for the breach of the agreement, but also $1 million.
Starting point is 01:40:16 They also took his lines and threw out. They'd already got Dan Castanello, Homer Simpson, to do it already. I think also did it in the TV show and just threw him out. They threw him out in front of Dan. No. No. And you give us the money that we gave you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Give us it back. We're putting you in the grinder with all the toys. This is a pretty short one, but Natalie Portman as Jane Foster. I don't know what she got paid for the original Thor, but Chris Hemsworth, oh, we were talking about this earlier, he got paid between $150,000 to $220,000. I would say she probably got more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:54 Because she was famous at the time. She'd done V for Endenna, obviously, Star Wars. She was like a prestige actor as well. Did she? Black Swan was that afterwards? Black Swan was around then, I'm guessing, yeah. Apparently, though, for Love and Thunder, it's estimated
Starting point is 01:41:07 we don't know the hard numbers, it was between $1 and $1.2 million. That seems low. I don't think it's true. Because Hemsworth would have got like $20 million. Yeah, exactly. This is a very... There would be a lot of work to work out.
Starting point is 01:41:23 That's crazy. I don't know. That's an estimated one. I mean, maybe she did it for fun. Maybe she did it for fun. I mean, it also wouldn't shock me if there were, like, actors out there who were just like, yeah, I charge a million dollars a movie, whatever it is. I just like to do it for fun or whatever. Or, you know, I've paid for my house and I don't need anything else.
Starting point is 01:41:40 And a million dollars for a couple of months' work is actually a lot of money. I don't know if anybody knows that. Well, it depends on how hard you're working, you know? It's true, yes. That's what I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe, you know, maybe a lot of people are like,
Starting point is 01:41:54 $20 million is too much. Yeah, maybe. But then again, the studio is not going to give that money to the poor, are they? No. They're going to give it to Hemsworth. Some prick. Let's end on Ben Affleck.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Okay, great. He got apparently paid between $10 and $20 million for Batman v Superman, which makes sense. He was a hot and rising star at the time. Hot ticket, Ben Affleck. He was big and back at the time, wasn't he? Yeah, that's right. He'd cleaned up his act.
Starting point is 01:42:22 True. He wasn't as greasy. Not quite. Or was he? He was greasy in a different way. He had't as greasy. Not quite. Or was he? He was greasy in a different way. He had a big back tattoo. Oh, that's right. He probably got around the same for Justice League,
Starting point is 01:42:32 which was then released twice. And then he agreed to appear in the Snyder Cut, and then he disappeared forever, except now he's back. And he's married to Jennifer Lopez again. Lopez, yeah. His peak early 2000s Ben Affleck. But he's remained his present day oiliness. He certainly has.
Starting point is 01:42:51 And the shininess of his suits is at the minimum. I would be very curious to know to what he's doing and what he's getting paid for it. What are you doing, Ben Affleck? How much money you got? Yeah. Show us your wallet now. What's in your wallet?
Starting point is 01:43:04 What do rich people have in their wallets? They have cash? It would be a black card, Mason. Oh, it would be a black card, wouldn't it? Yeah. And you look at the petrol price and you just go, I don't even care. That's right. And then you'd get a servant to fill up your car and then you'd crash it and do a cartwheel.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Yeah. Also, the black card is so black that if you're not a celebrity, you look into it, you go blind. Only celebrities can conceive of how much money it's worth. What about podcasters? No. What about like Marin? No, Marin couldn't look at it.
Starting point is 01:43:37 I don't think. No, absolutely not. He was in the nice guys. He was the snake, the good guys. He was a snake. Yes, sure. Okay, great. He was a snake. I saw League of Super Pets. He was the snake, the good guys. He was a snake. Yes, sure. Okay, great. He was a snake.
Starting point is 01:43:46 I saw League of Super Pets. He's Lex Luthor in that. Ben Affleck, you just said he made like $40 million for two movies. Yeah, but he's, you know, isn't he? The black hole is, the black card is a vortex of death is what I'm saying, James. Absolutely. Anyway, I thought this might be interesting for future reference. Here's some actors who have said before that they're not going to return to a role. Oh.
Starting point is 01:44:05 We should make a video about it and just list them all. Yeah, true. And leave it on the internet. And when these actors change their minds, we can get yelled at. I would love that. Arnold said for The Predator multiple times. Yes, that's right. Though he's nearly come back a few times.
Starting point is 01:44:18 We've talked about it. He nearly came back for AVP for a cameo. He nearly came back for The Predator. Yep, that's right. He nearly up. He's also returned as Dutch in video games. Oh, yeah, of course. Johnny Depp said he's not going to do another Pirates movie.
Starting point is 01:44:31 I don't think they're going to ask him to do a Pirates movie. Yeah. Also, stop making Pirates movies. They're bad. Or wait a bit and find. Oh, yeah, then just make a bunch of them. Make a bunch or make a good one. It's just that easy, folks.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Just make a good one again. Yeah. Remember the first one was good? Make that one again, but different, obviously. Yeah, do it like Never Say Never Again. Yeah. Do it like that. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:52 I mean, I would definitely not rule out him coming back. Yes. But they need some distance. Yeah. Neve Campbell is not returning for the latest Scream. Oh. Scream. Scream Queen.
Starting point is 01:45:03 It's on the screen. Are you okay? no but uh apparently not getting paid enough right okay i haven't seen the most recent one so it's good okay keanu reeves turned down speed two but i would love speed to speed control he turned down 12 million dollars speed to speed shut up Shut up. It's the thing I do, but for the actual movie that it was named for. Yeah, it was called Cruise Control. That's correct. Did you say Speed 2 Speed Control?
Starting point is 01:45:33 Yes. Okay. Okay, great. It doesn't matter. Just stop, Mason. Stop what you're doing. He turned down 12 movies for Speed 2 Speed Control. Wow.
Starting point is 01:45:44 I think they should do speed three. The speed control is the accelerator. Okay. Yeah, it would be, wouldn't it? Not a thing? Like on a train? Maybe. Sure.
Starting point is 01:45:53 You'd do the speed handle? Oh, yeah. What have you got on the tram? Pedals. Pedals? Really? Yeah. Fascinating stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:00 12 million. Was that his going rate at the time? It must have been. Well, speed was big. Yeah. And he read it and he was like, I can't do this it's bad, and he was right but again, Sandra Bullock, Keanu Reeves
Starting point is 01:46:11 Speed 3 plays, why not Will Ferrell was like, I won't do Alfred's Weird, I'm old and I don't want to people will hate me if I do it If we can go back briefly what's the plot of Speed 3 if Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock are in it? How are they back in the same place?
Starting point is 01:46:29 Like what's speeding at this point? It's a bus. They just do it again. Let's make the same movie again. Oh, they're on the bus the old folks have. It's the same bus. No, it's the same bus and Sandra Bullock is going to work or whatever. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:46:39 And she gets on the bus and she realises it's the same bus from the first movie. They've reassembled it. Wow. Who? Dennis Hopper? Yeah. Who? Dennis Hopper? Yeah. The late Dennis Hopper?
Starting point is 01:46:47 Dennis Hopper. Okay, great. He's back. They've deep faked him. Okay. Using the Bruce Willis technology. Okay. So he looks like Bruce Willis.
Starting point is 01:46:54 James Earl Jones's voice. But he's wearing a t-shirt that says, imagine I'm Dennis Hopper. And I don't have James Earl Jones's voice. Yeah, right. Because they just, what celebrities can they get? You know what I mean? It's true. Oh, just a weird Frankenstein amalgam of celebrities.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Whoever they can get becomes the new. Whoever they can get. They're like, okay, we're going to have the greediness of Bruce Willis. We're going to have the deep voice of James Earl Jones and we're going to put Carrot Top in there or whatever. And then it's just, these are our new gods. These monsters. We laugh and we jest and we jay.
Starting point is 01:47:24 This is going to happen. Oh, yeah. They're going to merge two actors or be like, what if Marilyn Monroe and James- Marilyn Manson. Marilyn Manson had a child, and this is what that actor would look like. A digital baby that's going to become a movie star or whatever.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Yeah. Just screams, even as an adult. Shouldn't have given it consciousness. Yeah. This is too late and too long. What is the actual time? Because it's Daylight Savings. It's 11.27.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Fucking hell, Mason. All right, let's wrap this up then, James. That's it. Okay, terrific. I enjoyed that though. I did as well, yeah. I think we learned. We were like, what are we going to talk about this week?
Starting point is 01:48:02 And then I suggested this and we were like, is this enough? This was too much. Too much. I did too much research. Too much stuff. Well, James, should we go on to talk about this week? And then I suggested this and we were like, is this enough? This was too much. Too much. I did too much research. Too much stuff. Well, James, should we go on to the next segment? I agree. Which is what we read in.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Yep. What are we going to read? That's the perfect opportunity for me to actually play the theme song to that. Nice. Should I do that now? Yeah, do it. I'll do it. I'm doing the theme.
Starting point is 01:48:24 What are we reading today? We said we weren't going to do late ones anymore, Mason. It's true. Look what's happened to us. I'm having a great time, though, let me tell you. Great. I just want to do a shout-out, Mason, if you don't mind. This is actually, this comes via my brother, the one you do like.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Is it, though? Yes, Mason. Oh, yeah, it is, too. Because he happens to know this person. I want to give a shout-out, Mason, to Harry and the Internet Squad who are over on their own YouTube channel, if you can believe such a thing, called The Internet Squad. Now, this is a YouTube channel where they're doing reviews.
Starting point is 01:48:54 They're doing skits. They're doing Lego stuff. What you saw, Mason, before, you said we'll only give them a shout-out if they send you the Octopus Prime Lego. That's correct, yes. Which they actually have, which we see on this very YouTube channel. So I just wanted to say a shout-out, say hello. I said to my brother, because he said this a while back,
Starting point is 01:49:11 and I'm like, I'll definitely do that, and then I didn't write it down. So now I've written it down. And then I'm like, is it his birthday? And he's like, I don't think so or whatever, but maybe it's his birthday, Harry. And happy birthday if it's your birthday. It's got to be eventually, doesn't it? And everybody over at the Internet Squad.
Starting point is 01:49:24 So I appreciate you listening. That's true. Good work on all the things that you're doing. Never stop making Internet content because if you do, somebody else will make Internet content. That's right. And I cannot abide that. How dare they?
Starting point is 01:49:35 Then send Mason the Optimist Prime as well. If you could. I would appreciate that. Yeah, yeah. Something we both watched is we both watched the first episode of Finding Isis, which we teased last week. Oh, my goodness, Mason. Boy, did we.
Starting point is 01:49:45 But it's, we mentioned it last time, but it's our friends Alexi and Cam who are, they're always out there solving mysteries. They are. But this time they're attempting to solve the mystery of a weird video game that appeared many years ago. It's a Kanye West video game that may be the introduction of people to a cult. Yes. And it's a very funny.
Starting point is 01:50:08 What I said, like, this is like one of those kind of serial shows, except it's a real investigation and it's also funny. Yeah. Like, it's not a. You're not going to find, like, a body in a bin at the end or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:50:22 But it's good, fun stuff and also really, like, it's an actual detective narrative that they weave. There's two podcasts. And they're just two funny guys. They're just like, again, I've said of these guys like I'd listen to them read the phone book like they could make that funny. Have you actually done that though? No. Probably a waste of their time actually. If this goes bad, maybe you could propose this.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Okay, great. An opportunity for them perhaps. Yeah, that's right. The second episode will be up by now on the YouTube channel Grouse House. Grouse House, that's right. If you do want to check it out, it's well worth checking out. Here's something that I've been listening to, Mason. Go on. My wife interviewed, my wife Claire, interviewed Jane Harper on her podcast Taunts.
Starting point is 01:50:58 And you might be like, that sounds familiar. Jane Harper, did she write the book The Drive, the smash hit book The Drive, which was adapted into a movie by Eric Banner? Yes. Correct. That's the very same. Whoa. I'll make my way through it,
Starting point is 01:51:09 but then I had to pause to do this stupid podcast. It's great. If you're a writer or a budding writer, if you're interested in writing, it takes like she talks about all the steps that she took to write the book like she did it kind of late in her life and then she had kids. It's really interesting and like how that ended up happening with Eric Banner and all of that. And it's just really interesting and I find the process
Starting point is 01:51:29 in which she wrote it like really fascinating. And like if you're thinking like, how can I write a book or whatever, what's the steps? It's really good and well worth listening to this interview. My wife, her podcast Taunts, it's an awesome review show and I'm not just saying that because she made me and she's standing behind Mason. She's holding a rolling pin.
Starting point is 01:51:46 She's behind me, isn't she? Mason, I just said the joke, and then you said the same joke. Yeah, but I did it in the way that people like it. Oh, okay, like in a pop culture way. The commercially acceptable way to like it. All right, all right, fine. I've also started reading a comic book that has been recommended to me a bunch of times,
Starting point is 01:52:07 written by Charles Sewell and illustrated by Ryan Brown. It's called Eight Billion Genies. Oh, I bought that, but I haven't read it yet. Well, then you would know. It's a world in which at exactly the same moment, everybody on Earth gets a genie and they all get one wish and everybody just wishes for whatever, and it's mayhem. And it's really, really good fun. Does everybody wish at the same time as some people
Starting point is 01:52:26 hold on to their genie for a bit longer? Yes. Is the answer to that? That's right, yes. Great. Yeah. I'm going to read that because I've started, I bought it as mentioned.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Yeah, yeah. But that's very good. And yeah, just a good. Is it the same looking genie? Or has everyone got a different looking genie? They all have like the same kind of like archetype so it's like this kind of like i don't even know how to describe it sort of like an impish kind of character but they're kind of like different colors yeah they're
Starting point is 01:52:55 like just no yeah and they're all like just have like distinctive facial features like they frame and stuff like a little mustache or what have you they're framing stuff they're like you're free i wish you to be free oh Oh, not so far. Ooh. How many issues has that been already? There's four, I think. There's a lot of bloody issues, though, you know what I mean? John and Matt.
Starting point is 01:53:12 And also Human Target is back, which is one of my favorite DCs. The show. They brought it back. I thought there was two seasons in the cast of it. No, they would never bring that back. Okay. But the comic book by Tom King. Great.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Yes. Should we move on to the next segment of the show? We should move on to the next segment, which is called what we – no, it's not. It's called Letters. It is, isn't it? It's called Letters, and I know this because I have a theme, a letters theme that I play from my phone, and it goes like this.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Could you recommend it? Yeah. The classic one was – Letters, oh, letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. This is a very special segment of the show.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Oh, yes? Yeah, Mason. It's where we read letters that people send in. For example, a letter might be a Gmail sent to you at weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's correct. Or it might be a hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter, which I scowl at.
Starting point is 01:54:05 I go, what's this? Oh, yes. And I read it out on the show. Because you're mad at social media. I am mad at social media. Some people spend too much time on their phones. By some people, I mean me. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:14 My brain is broken. Mason. Yes. What are you doing? Here's an email. This is from Salam. It says, hey, James and Mason, I hope you guys are doing well. So I just listened to your podcast about Andor,
Starting point is 01:54:24 and you talked about the hammer gong person and how they could get a droid to do it, but you're glad they don't. And so am I because it just wouldn't be the same. I say this because I work in an office and at work every Friday, one of my colleagues announces across the office for everyone to hear, it's five o'clock. And it just doesn't feel like the start of the weekend without it. Anyway, look forward to your podcast Carrier Out of Garbage. Hope you guys do this for as long as you can from salam ps one friday she was working from home and she emailed everyone at the office it's five o'clock nice yeah right quick question mason go on are you loving andor yes it's all cool awesome yeah and was there a
Starting point is 01:54:59 question within that email for us no but i just i just like the idea of someone who's who's decided that their personality is telling people when it's Friday. Because you're sort of, you know what it is? It's stolen valour because this person has nothing to do with it being the weekend. That's true. Everyone's like, yeah, yeah, you're right. But she's just like, hey, everybody, it's the weekend.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Everybody goes, hooray. That's good and you're good for pointing it out. Fuck that. You should take over. Yes. Oh, you should, shouldn't he? My thing now yeah wait till the person's about to open the mouth and just be like and have but have a megaphone yeah
Starting point is 01:55:29 people love that actually yeah or you could go it's 4 55 i'm leaving early yeah but then you get fired yeah well it is what it is yeah when are we gonna see the big drum guy in andor again it's a great question i'm up to episode four like everybody else now, like a pleb. God damn it. That's right. Anyway, Werewolf by Night this next week. That's right. That's what we're going to get into.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Here's a tweet that I got from NinjaDude3. Oh. It says, hashtag weekly planet pod. What is your favorite super slash villain origin story? Poof. Now, there's a lot of like person was bit by a whatever. Yeah, yeah. Or fell into a whatever.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Look, I like, I'm a big fan, off the top of my head, I'm a big fan of Dr. Dooms because his origin basically is that an experiment went awry and he got a little like cut on his face and then he's like, I'm ruined. I'm ruined. I'm so ugly now. And then he got a big metal mask made. He should have worn, he should have used Harry's shavers.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Precisely. And then he put the mask on before it had cooled down. Yeah. And then it just burned his entire head off. And now he's like, Richards, you did this, Reed Richards. And I'm like, nah, man. Why is he so dumb? There should be a guy who's just like, nah, man.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Nah, man. Yeah. Maybe like one of his. Hey, man. Nah. Yeah. See, but nobody could because he has like vast technological. Yeah, you shoot him with a laser.
Starting point is 01:56:48 And, you know, technological weapons and stuff and he's got magic and stuff. But he needs a guy from like as part of his entourage, like a guy from back from his old neighborhood. Like Turtle. Yeah, yeah. He needs a turtle who can just, which is ironic because he's the one in the. The shell and whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:04 But he needs just a guy back from his old neighborhood in Latveria who's like, oh, man. Yeah. Come on, man. I know you. Yeah. This is weird. That's right.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Anyway, we run this town. We literally run this town of Latveria because you're a dictator and that's cool. I don't know, Superman. Didn't you say super villain? Superhero, a favourite superhero or villain. Oh, that's handy. I think it doesn't necessarily have to be like the act itself.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Spider-Man is bitten by a spider, Superman's from space. But it's not just that. Yes. I watched League of Super Pets, which I'll probably talk about in another week, but at the start they do the Superman leaves Earth. Yes. And it always gets me. It's always like, this is fucked up.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Right, okay. He's leaving his family. He's leaving his job. This is fucked, I said. I stood up. And same with Spider-Man, like, you know, with his uncle gets shot and whatever. And it's, again, it's not the act.
Starting point is 01:57:57 It's like it's the stuff that happens around it. Yes. Which brings meaning to it. So I think, you know, an origin can be dumb. Yeah. But it can. It can be a fall in a vat of toxic waste. Yeah. But it can be a fall in a vat of toxic waste. Yeah, exactly. But if you fell in a vat of toxic waste because you were trying to provide
Starting point is 01:58:10 for your family and they love a big hot bowl of toxic waste and you were just trying to get some toxic waste but then you fell in the toxic waste. Maybe next time bring a bucket. Bring a bucket on a string or something. Yeah. But not a plastic bucket. That had burned through with the toxic waste, I think.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Yeah, even like the string would probably be, you probably want to go with like a chain even. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A metal chain. Yeah. Oh, you know what I also saw? Because just randomly on YouTube, I saw a clip from Stargirl, which is not a show that I watch.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Yeah. But it is on, isn't it? It is definitely on. We can get it. But I saw a clip, and it's Joel McHale, who is the tv version of star man who's in it he's he was presumed dead he's back now i think thank god but it's just him it's him fighting a couple of people like some super criminals in a convenience store and it's
Starting point is 01:58:54 really good okay like the action it's good the action is like you know that expression they didn't have to go as hard but they did yeah it's that it's like there's some like there's some amazing like fight choreography and like some great moves and stuff and I'm like is this enough for me to watch this show probably not
Starting point is 01:59:09 but wow but imagine if you did yeah it was cool on the table yeah okay
Starting point is 01:59:12 well I haven't heard bad things about it so yeah maybe I will watch that or maybe I'll do this it's from Orion who says hashtag weekly planet pod
Starting point is 01:59:20 hey James if you really want another veto you could argue that Maso did not provide one bit of news for the entire month he took off and therefore
Starting point is 01:59:26 you're entitled to a veto hashtag now I'm like great idea but also if we're banking vetoes
Starting point is 01:59:34 if we're banking users sometimes you'll bring one or two bits of news and that would mean you would get ahead so I think if I go down this road
Starting point is 01:59:41 we're going to be starting a tallying system there's going to be research involved. There'll be a fist fight, not with us, with the audience, because people will pick factions and whatever. That's true, yeah. I don't want a Civil War mason within the comments.
Starting point is 01:59:54 What about this, James? Civil War babies. Okay, so everyone's a baby. Yes, but I'm talking the American Civil War. Oh, okay, but everyone's a baby. What about this comment on YouTube? They're making Deadpool and Wolverine movies. Very nice.
Starting point is 02:00:08 What do you think of that? I loved it. Here's an email from Leo. Good day, James and May. So apparently today is International Podcast Day, so I thought this was the perfect time to express my gratitude. I'm currently 16 going on 17 years old, and I've been a loyal weekly wackadoo. Like the song! The loyal week- is it? Okay. A loyal
Starting point is 02:00:23 weekly wackadoo since I was 10. Every day on the bus ride to school, I'd listen to the pod while dealing with annoying classmates and some not so good car sickness. I just wanted to thank you guys for making my entire middle school and high school life a whole lot better. I also wanted to ask if I can be the official guy who started listening way too young of the pod. Have a good one, Leo from Chicago.
Starting point is 02:00:41 My goodness, Leo. Yes, you may. Absolutely. You should get some anti-nausea medication for that. Oh, keep it in the car so they should just go to your car i mean we need those so just break the window of james's car and you have probably about half an hour before you take a public transport it will help you it'll help you with that nausea don't even worry about it yeah i've heard that i've heard that but if you want something it's not some homeopathic nonsense sure then uh no i also believe in things well if you want if you want something that's not some homeopathic nonsense. Sure. Then no, I also believe in things, Claire.
Starting point is 02:01:05 Well, if you want. If you want. It is late. I was thinking Claire because she's always like, have this weird mushroom drink. Have some witch hazel. Because you'll have a cold. I'm like, can't I just ride this out like a normal person?
Starting point is 02:01:16 Can't I just do some vomits, Claire? Can't I just do big vomits? Just let me do vomits, Claire. Stand back. I'm a man. Let me do my manly vomits, Claire. I got a comment here that says, Hugh Jackman is done with X-Men.
Starting point is 02:01:28 Are you sure about that? What about this one? Well, that comment didn't age well, did it? Whoa. What about this one? Well, that comment just happened, didn't it? What else, Mason? Here's just one more.
Starting point is 02:01:41 He's from Tanner. Yep. Hello, James, Maceo, Claire, and all the others that make this podcast possible. Yeah. Hello. That's it, though, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah. No, it's Robert one more. He's from Tanner. Yep. Hello, James, Maceo, Claire, and all the others that make this podcast possible. Yeah. Hello. That's it, though, isn't it? Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Yeah, yeah. No, it's Robert Collings who edits. That's right. And all the social medias, Mason. Ah! It's a whole team. Just wanted to say thank you for everything you guys do for the listeners. It's been a hard month.
Starting point is 02:01:58 I know this is nothing compared to – oh, there's some bad times. His daddy's moving out due to his parents separating. Our forever home will probably be on the market sometime this year. I'm trying to balance a work-school social life on top of it all. I know this is nothing compared to some people, but knowing that you boys will be there on Monday morning on my commute to university and again at some point in the week for Caravan of Garbage, a third time on Thursday's Suggestible.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Oh, hello. Just brings some extra light into my life. Thank you once more. You're great, and I appreciate everything you guys do. There is one bit of silver lining there, isn't there? That is that you got us in the divorce. That's true, yeah. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 02:02:29 We're coming with you. We made sure of it. Yes. Oh, sorry about that. That sucks. That's terrible news. There you go. But folks, that's the whole show.
Starting point is 02:02:36 It is, isn't it? What do you think about that? I think it's good. Not the divorce. That's bad. That was bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sucks.
Starting point is 02:02:42 That's bad news. That's right. We both agree that's bad though. Exactly. Folks, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for telling your friends about the show. Thank you for subscribing and liking and posting about it on social media and doing all that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:54 Thank you to the voters at Ranker.com who ranked us as the second best podcast about movies. Did you know that? Oh, right, yeah. Ahead of How Did This Get Made but below something else. Oh, no, that's the one that I went on that time. Oh, nice. I've been on it a few times.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Oh, yeah, Friends of the Show. Yeah, exactly. There we go. How Did This Get Made is an amazing podcast, by the way. Right? How did we do that? That doesn't even make any sense. Also.
Starting point is 02:03:18 We've gamed the system. Were we supposed to promote this or something? First I've heard of it, honestly. But, folks, thank you so much. Thank you for telling your friends about it because that's how we get more listeners and thank you for leaving five-star reviews because once again, you put the
Starting point is 02:03:31 five-star reviews in, the algorithms tell other people to give it a listen. James, you got any reviews there? I just want to say, I don't think we spent enough time on the divorce email and we spent too much time riffing on other garbage this episode. Sure. I think that is a dub. Sorry that that happened again. I'm sorry to come back to it. We appreciate you and we appreciate too much time riffing on other garbage this episode. Sure. I think that is a – sorry that that happened again. I'm sorry to come back to it.
Starting point is 02:03:48 We appreciate you and we appreciate you writing it. You think there should have been 40 minutes of divorce material? That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that's – I appreciate people reaching out. I'm glad that we can make a minor difference in somebody's life is what I'm saying. And when you're like, ah, this is a problem that's not – it's compared to other people's problems, it's all relative, man,
Starting point is 02:04:03 and that's a thing that's happening to you which is not great so yeah that's true what i'm saying yeah there's people dying in floods but they'll be you know they'll forget yeah that's because they'll be dead yeah all right uh now you know what would help is some five-star reviews somebody right here mason okay great you can do this in app or at ranker.com apparently yeah uh a shreckingly good time there's a five-star review from it's Zenith who says this is the first podcast I ever subscribed to around mid 2016 and I've never missed
Starting point is 02:04:28 an episode the two boys James and Mason have great chemistry and never fail to keep me entertained truly one of the best and this one is from
Starting point is 02:04:35 The Cheek Driller nice five stars also just in app you can do it in any app crazy best Australian comic book
Starting point is 02:04:42 people I've ever heard some of the best chemistry between two mates I've ever heard. Always screaming and shouting. Love it. That is true. And that is camaraderie. I think it was an extra screaming and shouting this week. Oh, great.
Starting point is 02:04:55 Folks, if you want to get into contact with us, you can go to Weekly Planet Pod at Gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter, at Bandcamp. You can go over to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group. You can go to the Weekly Planet pod at subreddit and Discord. If you want to follow any of us, you can follow, first and foremost, our friend Rob Collings who edits this podcast, edits all kinds of videos, does social media, does all kinds of things.
Starting point is 02:05:12 He's at Raw Collings. Correct, correct. He's also at the Weekly Planet. That's the place you should follow if you want to know all sorts of Weekly Planet goings on. You can also follow me at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter and Nick Mason on Instagram. James is MrSundayMovies everywhere. If you want to support the show, you can go to Instagram. James is MrSundayMovies everywhere.
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Starting point is 02:06:00 Also She-Hulk will be wrapping up, last episode of She-Hulk. Is it? I think so. All right then. Is it eight? I thought it was more than that. Maybe there's eight, She-Hulk will be wrapping up. Last episode of She-Hulk. Is it? I think so. All right then. Is it eight? I thought there was more than that. Maybe there's eight. She-Hulk.
Starting point is 02:06:10 List of episodes. Web-isodes? List of web-isodes. I hope they don't put Deadpool in it. No, there's nine. James, I don't think they'll put Deadpool in it. Shut up, Mason. They might.
Starting point is 02:06:23 They might, though. It's true. Honestly, that would be a perfect team-up. Shut up, Mason. They might. They might, though. It's true. Honestly, that would be a perfect team-up. Yes, I agree. Episode 8 is this week and then it's episode 9 the following week. Oh, then we won't talk about it. We'll talk about other things, but we'll certainly talk about Werewolf by Night. So get that in your bloody... Oh, God. Should we do a YouTube review?
Starting point is 02:06:38 I just, like... You know how I love comments. Yes. Just imagine those comments. James, are you still reading those comments? No, Mason. Okay. If anything, you're reading them. This is your fault, by the way. Why? Because you said he wasn't coming back.
Starting point is 02:06:53 Yeah, but I did it for engagement. Well, that did work. And comments and such. I wish you'd get engaged to a rock at the bottom of the ocean. Like SpongeBob? I don't know. Okay. What's next?
Starting point is 02:07:04 That's everything. Oh, good. Yeah. Grab that, Jeremy, guys. We'll see you next week. That was a? That's everything. Oh, good. Yeah. Grab that jam, you guys. We'll see you next week. That's a good show. Bye. I had a good time. I did.
Starting point is 02:07:10 It was fun. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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