The Weekly Planet - 451 Halloween (Probably) Ends

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

EVIL DIES TONIGHT. I mean probably not because the Halloween movies always make money including Halloween Ends, the movie we're talking about this week. Plus we get some big Marvel delays, Harrison F...ord in the MCU, a bizarre trailer for M3gan, the death of a British legend and more. Thanks for listening!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.00:00 The Start03:12 Robbie Coltrane RIP04:36 Black Adam First Reactions08:09 M3GAN Trailer11:03 John Carpenter Dead Space Movie12:45 Liam Neeson Naked Gun Reboot16:39 Marvel Zombies Series Update18:14 Harrison Ford in Captain America 421:55 MCU Movie Delays (but don't dismays)25:42 Halloween Ends Best/Worst Review (spoilers 40:17 to 53:10)53:10 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read58:06 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Red hot comic book movie news Shooting up your butthole The Weekly Planet, The Weekly Planet Just a casual reminder to everybody that that theme song will be disappearing in the new year. Excuse me? This is a service announcement. Is this automated? Yeah, this is automated.
Starting point is 00:01:16 How did you automate that bit? No, you're also automated. This whole thing is automated. Oh, bleep bloop. Meep moop. You're not self-aware though, so you don't know that's actually happening to you. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:01:27 No. I feel like some sort of Mithrigan robot has been assigned to help you do a podcast. Very good, Mason. Great reference to a thing we will be talking about on this episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday Movings. And this is Nick Mason. He's here are we
Starting point is 00:01:45 still automated we bet we we free will it i don't know mason what is real etc oh it's a really good point and i mean when you think about it is anything we say you know the product of free will or is it simply you know determined is it just fully deterministic and it's just based on the previous interactions we've had and everything that happened up until the creation of the universe. Good point. Is it free will or are we both holding guns on each other? Great question. That's a bit of theatre in my mind, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Long-standing podcast standoff, you know what I mean? To what end, though? I don't know. Do a funnier riff or stop doing a riff. Yeah. More facts, more funny. Stop podcasting when you stop podcasting. Okay, well, don't need the guns for that, brother, because funny i'll stop podcasting when you stop podcasting okay well
Starting point is 00:02:25 don't need the guns for that brother because i just love doing podcasting so i'm putting my gun down all right well i'm not you've still got your gun up that's okay all right well i'm just saying you don't need to maybe by the end of this if i remember this intro by the end you'll have put the gun down i doubt it but we'll see won't we so i got a few things to get through this week we've got the the death of a British cinematic and TV legend. The Black Adam early reviews, they're in, Mason. Are they hot, hot, hot? They are.
Starting point is 00:02:52 There's something. There's something. Would you say they're electrifying? Oh, some people would certainly say they're electrifying. I couldn't specifically say who, Mason. Would you say The Rock, he gets his feet and he rubs them on the carpet a bunch and then he goes over and he touches your hair and you go, ah, and he goes, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Black Adam. That's right. Yeah, that's what he says. Also. Black Adam heroes don't rub their feet and then rub it and then rub hands on the balloon and then the balloon's electrified and you move it over. Well, I do.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Thanks, man. A new Naked Gun movie. Oh, yeah, maybe. I got Marvel Zombies news, something about Harrison Ford in the MCU, and then a bunch of delays. But do not dismay us, Mason. My goodness. There's some Marvel properties, big delays this week.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And then, of course, we're going to be talking the new Halloween, Halloween Ends. But does it? Don't say. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it, yeah. When we get into the movie Halloween's End. Because, of course, we have previously talked about the other two movies
Starting point is 00:03:48 in this second reboot of the Halloween franchise, so we were like, well, let's knock this on the head. Absolutely. See how that goes. I mean, we'll talk about it, but I absolutely did not enjoy the last one. But what a fascinating series of films that they've put together. Right. I was going to say for some reason, but we know why, don't we?
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah. Yeah. So let's get into this first. Sad news, Robbie Coltrane has passed away at the age of 72. Apparently he's been sick for a couple of years. People most famously probably know him as Hagrid from the Harry Potter movies. You might also have known him from a couple of Pierce Brosnan, James Bond films where he's a Russian guy with a bad knee.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Valentin Zhukovsky. Delightful presence in those movies. Yeah, really good in those movies. Liked him a lot. If you're a British television fan. I imagine they also liked him a lot because I think he was just in initially for like a one-note thing where he's, you know, he has some imagined backstory with Bond and Bond shot him in the knee or whatever it is. And they're like, we liked him so much we brought him back. Come back in another one.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Action sequence. Remember that car gets cut in half. I remember. What a delight. I agree. And of're like, we liked him so much we brought him back. Come back in another one. And he had that action sequence. Remember that car gets cut in half? I remember. Oh, what a delight. I agree. And of course he was Cracker. He was Cracker. I was going to say he was Cracker from like in the 93 to 96 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. British crime thriller. By all accounts, from all the people who worked with him, mostly they were hearing, of course, from those who worked with him on Harry Potter. He was just always just delightful to be around and to work with. So, yeah, that's no good. 72, it's not too old. It's not too great.
Starting point is 00:05:09 A lot of people might be like, that's great. I disagree. I think it's bad, actually, that he died. So, yeah, he recently appeared in the special, the Harry Potter. I see. 400th anniversary special or whatever it was. So, yeah, R.I.P. Good innings, though.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Great appearances. And, again, apparently a nice person. No one has a bad word to say about R.I.P. Good innings, though. Great appearances. And, again, apparently a nice person. No one has a bad word to say about him. Exactly. Very sad. Unfortunately, though, Mason, there is some bad words being said, some, about the new Black Adam movie. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:05:38 You said earlier it was the thing. You said it was going to be electrifying. No, you just went into a thing about a balloon and whatever, and I couldn't stop you. That doesn't sound like me. Yeah. I should have used the gun. But you've only got 17 bullets in that gun.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, that's right. So, I mean, you know, why waste one now? Exactly. So they're, I would say, mixed to positive. I can read some reactions here. Bear in mind these are not reviews. This is like social media hello. We saw it early. Is this because the embargo
Starting point is 00:06:07 hasn't lifted yet? I don't believe so. We've got a screening on Wednesday. You're going to go, but I'm not going to go. I forgot about that. I'll just see it Thursday morning. Okay, great. When I don't have to drive into the city to go and see it or whatever. IMAX? Is it in? Yes, it is, yeah. Not too far, mate.
Starting point is 00:06:24 What am I, a bird? Like I could fly quickly? I've got a car, I've got to go all over the streets. That's true, you can't go as the crow flies. You explained that to him. You said, I can't just go directly. You said, listen, I can't just get a map and then draw a line directly from my house to the IMAX theatre and just go on that.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Ridiculous. Right? My hang glider isn't ready yet, you said. That's right. I need to have a big tall tower. Yeah. Also, if you're worried about being spoiled about the big thing in this movie, you've probably already heard because it's everywhere
Starting point is 00:06:52 and it's pretty much how The Rock is promoting the movie. Oh, I genuinely haven't seen this thing, so I don't say. Okay, I won't say. So I'll leave that to everybody else to find out. You know how people go, tell me about it? Do the opposite of that. Don't tell him about it. Sean O'Connell says, we can tweet about Black Adam. I didn't like it. The script is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:07:10 The JSA members didn't get much development at all. The humor isn't bad. It's cringe. Kiss of death. Cringe of death Mason. There was a bit of twist in that one there. I think if you'd said that differently, I would have been lulled. The script isn't bad. It's terrible. I like The Rock a lot and want him in a much better film.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Last 30 Minutes are a CGI assault. Wasn't for me. But then Jermaine- Clement? Lucia, no, said, Black Adam is a worthy piece of the DC puzzle, but not the save you it promised. A surprising compressed timeline keeps the action exciting and the pace propulsive, but also turns its many, many themes, plots
Starting point is 00:07:46 and characters into fancy window dressing It's messy in a watchable way At least it has themes and plots, many themes and plots. Oh absolutely. Dorian Park says, I've seen Black Adam This is one of my most anticipated films and I did not disappoint. The action sequences were incredible, especially the ones with the JSA
Starting point is 00:08:01 The rock crushes it as Black Adam The film ends with high hopes for the future of the DCEU, if that's what it's called. This dude is thrilled. That's me. He's struggling to get it out there. That's me, Mason. That was me.
Starting point is 00:08:13 So, yeah, it's, I would say, mixed to positive, but also these are early reactions, so I would say that's not terrific news. Sure, right. This is the people who get to meet the rock and go and see it. Because generally speaking, these are normally effusive with praise, these early impressions. Do you think, though, that financially if this movie does well,
Starting point is 00:08:32 you know how some people have said, okay, well, The Rock is DC's Kevin Feige. He's going to, through pure charisma, he's going to shape the direction of the DCEU. Do you think if this does very well financially, he will do, like, board meetings as Black Adam? He'll put the costume on? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 They'll lower him from the ceiling or whatever. He'll have one of those balls, the glass balls, you put your fingers on and they go. Yes, I think that's what's going to happen. Anyway, of course, people should make up their own minds. They should make up their own minds by going to the movies. If they want to or not. If they want to.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Entirely up to you. But let's do trailers of Wayne Mason. Okay. We've got a trailer from Thregan. That was two trailer ships passing in the night. They got guns on each other. Oh, that's great. You would, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah. So this is, you might be like, what's this weird Chucky AI robot movie? What's going on here? Why is there so much weird dancing in it or whatever? This is written by a Kayla Cooper who wrote Malignant. Sure. Okay, right. You can see that, right?
Starting point is 00:09:30 Which if you haven't listened to our episode on it, it's a movie that we were highly recommended. For like 80% of this movie, we're like, why has this been so highly recommended? And then the last act, you're like, oh, I get it. This is mayhem. This is okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:43 So similar kind of vibes going on here. So, yeah, I mean, it looks suitably creepy and upsetting. And the dancing is very upsetting, isn't it? Sure, right. That deadpan robot face and the weird flailing about, Mason. There was some incredibly crushing exposition in this trailer where it's like, now, as you well know, as my niece, you should remember to behave.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Since your parents passed away and i've had to look after you you need a new friend and maybe i work for a robot or whatever that's right sure now here's a question for you james yeah what are they going to do once today once they get to the inevitable threequel i mean it's already mithrigan oh my god well you go you go prequels you go backwards oh mithrig Moteagan? Moteagan? That's nearly a name. Matoogan. Matoogan. That's a perfect name. And then Mwungan.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Matoogan, that's a robot like gold prospector. They're going through prototypes. They're like, what would a little kid who's lost their parents, what would they like to come for? A big old gold prospector with a corncob pipe and a big bib overall. Yes. Yeah, he's kind of. It's a Batugan.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah, he's probably steampunk a bit, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And Mawangan? Yeah. A Gungan maybe? Yeah. An African dictator of some kind.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Oh, I always meant, what's his name? The Jar Jar Binks. Oh, sure. A Mugungan. A Mugungan, yeah. That's when there's an irrelevant plot detail that people have to follow throughout the course of the movie. That's a McGungan.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Oh, okay, right. Fantastic. Anyways, I'm looking forward to this. It's going to be out in January. I hope it's weird and mean. Sure, yeah. And stupid and fun. I'm just saying, why do they always keep giving killing capabilities
Starting point is 00:11:19 to these robots? Yeah. I would say give it the punching power of a small child or less. Yeah, I agree. But I guess they'll – I'm sure there'll be a line in there justifying it. Like she has to be as powerful to push a car. She has to be powerful enough to push a car to protect a kid. To protect them, whatever, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:33 She has to be powerful enough to snap a bully's neck or whatever. That's right. Her stomach cavity is filled with hand grenades. Yeah. That she can spill out as necessary to protect a child. Definitely. Oh, I should mention, weraw Collings who edits this, he always puts time codes in the description
Starting point is 00:11:46 if you want to skip to any particular section of this podcast. If you just want to skip every time we go off the rails. Yep. Thanks for listening. You're at the end of the podcast now, I guess. Here's a bit of news. Speaking of horror movies. A one bit of news?
Starting point is 00:12:01 It's a one bit of news. Wow. John Carpenter, speaking of the Halloween movies. Yeah. He did a long form interview with the AV Club. Oh one bit of news? It's a one bit of news. Wow. John Carpenter, speaking of the Halloween movies. Yeah. He did a long-form interview with the AV Club. Oh, was it mean? No, it was –
Starting point is 00:12:09 No, he's not mean. He's not mean. He's direct. It was quite good. So I follow the interviewer, Will Hughes, on Twitter, and it's just sort of a long form. It's a nice interview about horror movies and other things, but it's a lot about video games because apparently he has a lot
Starting point is 00:12:28 of downtime. He's doing a lot of video games. Apparently he wants to make Dead Space. He wants to make Dead Space, yeah. Which is, I mean, he's asked, have you ever thought about adapting a game? He says, the only one I can think of, and I've mentioned it before, is Dead Space.
Starting point is 00:12:41 That would make a real great movie. I could do that. You probably could. The AV Club asked, do you have a favourite out of that series? Well, any of them were really good. I even liked the last one, the action one that nobody else liked. Well, that was also broken by microtransactions. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:56 They busted it up. That one I didn't actually play. I played the other two. But that is printing money, surely. Yeah. Like to get the creator of the thing to well not the creator of the thing yeah the remaking of the thing from another world into the thing and to just get him to do a movie set in in space with horrible transformografic monsters yeah incredible i
Starting point is 00:13:18 completely agree the last movie he directed though was the ward from 2010 he's got a number of producing credits on various Firestarter and Halloween sequels that he just collects money on. But I didn't see Ghosts of Mars. But no, he doesn't. I guess he's rich, so he's just like, I play video games now, I guess. That's right. I'm a professional e-gamer now.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Good for him, man. That's great stuff. What else have we got here, Mason? Is there anything else you reckon we should talk about? Yeah. Yeah, I've got a bunch of stuff, actually. Okay, great. So this is via Variety.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Because I didn't write anything down. All right. Liam Neeson has apparently entered negotiations for a Naked Gun reboot where he'll play the son of Leslie Nielsen's character, apparently. That's wild. So Seth MacFarlane is producing and writing, I think, and Akiva Schaefer will write and direct. Okay, Akiva Schaefer of The Lonely Island.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Exactly. I think he did the Chipmunks. He did the Chipmunks. Chip and Dale. Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. He did Popstar, Never Stop, Never Stopping, probably Hot Rod and a bunch of other stuff, which is quite good. Now, the Naked Gun movies, I'm sure a lot of that doesn't hold up well.
Starting point is 00:14:17 You look at that and you go, that's a bit, that's of the year, isn't it, Mason? Sure, sure, sure. That's what I would say, Mason. Sure. You would say perhaps you can't make that these days. You can't make it, even though they're going to be making it. Yeah, proving you wrong immediately. I like the idea of, like, Liam Neeson has done,
Starting point is 00:14:31 he's kind of dabbled in a little bit of comedy. Yes. He was in that episode of Extras. He was in Once Upon a Time in Everyone's Dying in the West or whatever it's called. Of course, yeah. Hence the Seth MacFarlane, I guess. But if they do, I could see him in the Leslie Nielsen
Starting point is 00:14:45 just playing it completely straight. He has to. It has to be completely deadpan. There can't be any nods or winks to the camera. It's just got to be he's got to be in full wolf fight mode, full earnest Liam Neeson. And the movies are entirely dependent on insane stuff happening around a hard-boiled police detective who doesn't take any guff from anyone
Starting point is 00:15:06 and does not see the funny side in anything. Not that he doesn't even see it. He doesn't even notice that it's happening. Yeah, or if it's happening, he's not fussed by it. I saw a scene recently on Twitter where he's looking for information, he goes down to the docks and he's giving the guy money and then the guy asks him a question and they're just handing each other money.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Oh, my God, the classic. The classic stool pigeon money switcheroo there. But Leslie Nielsen wasn't a comedic actor for the longest time until he did Police Squad, which is a prequel. Not a prequel. It was just made before the Naked Gun movies. And then he was just put in this absurdist, like all these scenarios and he just kind of did his thing.
Starting point is 00:15:44 He just sort of became this towering comedic presence by just doing what he was doing anyway, which is genius, I think. Because, yeah, like prior to this, prior to that, he was in a bunch of movies that were akin to a police procedural kind of movies and things like that and big-time dramas and stuff. And, yeah, just so I guess that there is a fine balance to be taken here. Like it's.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yeah. Can it be done? Can it be be done and do people even still like these movies like in theory these are great i think and i have watched a police squad recently i'm like yeah this is still so funny yeah to mainstream audiences still like it are we gonna have uh is there gonna be a chippendale rescue rangers style twist where it's it's i don't know self-aware in some way yeah okay yeah yeah i hope not i hope they just i hope it's just another one that's what i ideally i hope it's just let's just do a do a weird and wacky thing do you think they might do it in the style of a law and order svu or something like that okay like it because obviously the the police squad and naked gun movies feel like 1950s police serials. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Do you think they would update it so the look is kind of more? Yeah, maybe. Maybe that's not a terrible idea. Do you think they'd bring back O.J. Simpson? No. You don't think so? Not even for a little cameo? I don't think so, no. Because of the murders he did.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's available because he's out on the streets. That's true, yeah. But, yeah. I think they probably, James, I probably they won't, that wouldn't bother them because he was acquitted for that, but I think they probably wouldn't hire him because of all that sports memorabilia he stole that time.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Oh, that's right. And went to jail for both of them. Yeah, that's right. Fun stuff. Yeah. Oh, you know who they could bring in? They should bring in the cast of like SVU. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:20 They should bring in Chris Maloney and Mariska Hargitay. Well, he is a very good straight man, funny guy, isn't he? Yeah. Did you finish Happy, the one with the imaginary friend or whatever? Did that all wrap up? Mostly, yeah. Okay, cool. I should finish that because I did enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Great stuff, Mason. Great stuff. Marvel Zombies, bit of an update. Oh, yes. Now, for those who remember, which is everybody who loves the MCU, which is everybody because we all love it all the time. We all love it all the time. We've got a She-Hulk review.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Colleen's edited it. It's up now if people want to check it out. Woo, Mason, for that review. Why don't we? Give it a thumbs up, Mason. Why don't you? So they did a Marvel Zombies episode. And they're doing more Marvel Zombies,
Starting point is 00:17:57 but I think it's a different continuity or something. And it's still animated. Yes. This is going to be animated. Okay. We've seen like one image and it's got like Shang-Chi and others. Yes. I don't remember who else.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Sort of the zombie hunting team. They've got different outfits. And there's going to be four episodes. That's right, just four, which I think is good. You know, not everything needs to be ten or six or seven or even one. That's very true. Like a movie is one, for example. It's one episode.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I mean, more so than exploring different genres in the Marvel Universe, I think they should explore different numbers of episodes i think that ultimately is more important because one day they'll find the sweet spot where people are like oh marvel netflix too many episodes oh this oh too too few episodes not enough episodes oh there should have been a should have been a miniseries not a movie oh it should be what if one day they're like the perfect amount is three and a half episodes yeah it just stops midway. It stops midway. And people go, I don't know what it is, but that was so satisfying. Yeah, it just kind of, I don't know, just hit the sweet spot of my brain.
Starting point is 00:18:51 So many unresolved things that I can think about later. Yeah, that's right. My goodness. Someone was in the middle of swinging a punch and it just cut to black. Not even. I reckon it just starts the next show. It's just straight into it. It just gives you that three, two, one warning at the next show. It's just straight into it.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It just gives you that three, two, one warning at the bottom and then it's off. Yeah. So there you go. Speaking of Marvel, Mason, this is by Jeff Snyder. Now he, I believe, talked about it a few weeks ago about Harrison Ford becoming the new Thunderbolt Ross. Oh, yes. After the passing of William Hurt.
Starting point is 00:19:19 He has confirmed this this week saying that he will be joining the Thunderbolts, but he will debut in Captain America 4 New World Order in 2024 at the beginning of the year, or May, sorry, and then the Thunderbolts in July. Oh, my goodness. Of that year. So Harrison Ford right now, as of the taping of this, in the present era, Mason.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Putting it on reel-to-reel tape. He is 80 years old. Yes, okay. So he will be 81 by the time we're filming 82 by the time it comes out. I said this before, it is bold to cast a man older than William Hurt in this role. But he can use his classic
Starting point is 00:19:53 Thunderbolt Ross catchphrase, I'm 82, you know. I'm 82, you know. Do you know? Now get out and get those Avengers. Get them. Yeah. You're here to get them. The other thing about Harrison Ford is due to doing Star Wars and New Indiana Jones and all of that, they've scanned him a million him. He's here to get him. The other thing about Harrison Ford is due to doing Star Wars and New Indiana Jones and all of that, they've scanned him a million times. That is true.
Starting point is 00:20:09 They probably didn't have that many scans of William Hurt. Or if Harrison Ford could live on as Thunderbolt Ross or... Do you reckon they'll make him the Red Hulk? He's too old to be that, right? They'd give it to like Martin Freeman. I mean, I want to see a... Because he's a different Agent Ross, I guess. But I want to see a big, grumpy-
Starting point is 00:20:25 I would love to see a big, grumpy Harrison Ford Red Hulk. Yeah. Amazing. I would love to see that also. All the powers of Harrison Ford, but in like a big Hulk monster? Yes. Yeah. We just want to fly a plane and smoke weed.
Starting point is 00:20:38 But I love money. That's why I'm here. Did you see- There's a fun interview from a few years back for- Before he did Blade Runner. He's like, yeah, Ridley Scott came to me and he said, would you be interested in replacing the role? And he was just like, yeah, how much?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Okay, great. How much money will you give me to do this? And fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, he holds all the power there. That's right. If you're like, we're bringing back Rick Deckard
Starting point is 00:21:03 and it's just some other guy. People will be like, why bother? Why have you done this? Disgusting. Disgusting, y you're like, we're bringing in, we're bringing back Rick Deckard and it's just some other guy. People will be like, why bother? Why have you done this? Disgusting. Disgusting. Yuck. Yeah. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:21:09 But yes, I want a big Red Hulk, Harrison Ford. I think that'd be incredible. I think he would like that. If he doesn't have to do it. I agree. I think they should go the Ang Lee method. They should make the director do all the mo-cap. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Fair enough. But also again, he's 82, right? He's 82, you know. He will be. He's 80 now. But he will, I just, that's 82, you know. He will be. He's 80 now. But that's all I'm saying. I'm not against it. I'm just saying, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But I'm saying realistically, like, how many times has Thunderbolt Ross been in the MCU in the last decade? A couple of times. Five, maybe. What was he in? I don't know. Some of them. I think it's less than five.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Yeah, you're probably right. Let me check. Well, he did Incredible Hulk. He was in Civil War. He was in At the End of Endgame, I're probably right. Let me check. Well, we did Incredible Hulk. He was in Civil War. He was in At the End of Endgame, I want to say, and he was in Black Widow. So that's at least four, but there might be another one in there. Look, my money is on we get him for this, we get him for Thunderbolts.
Starting point is 00:21:56 He turns into the Red Hulk at the end, and then he gets flung into a portal. We never see him again. So people get what they want. They would get Harrison Ford in the MCU. Harrison Ford doesn't have to commit to ten movies. We get the Red Hulk, which people want. Yep. So he has done five.
Starting point is 00:22:11 He was also in Infinity War. Oh, yeah. So there you go. And then he flies off into the sunset, i.e. a big portal, and we never see him again. And if he comes back, again, we've got all the scans, or you recast again. Again, yeah, just to keep doing it. Just keep casting've got all the scans. Yeah. Or you recast. Yep. Again. Again, yeah, just to keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Just keep casting older. Certainly. That's right. Older and frailer. Yes. Yeah. I mean, Harrison Ford, he's a young 80, you know? It's very true.
Starting point is 00:22:36 He's Hollywood 80, which is different. He's been Hollywood coddled. It's caviar on the beach. I think it's called Holly Coddled. Oh, that's great. I like that. Thank you. Yeah, just caviar on the beach. I think it's called Holly Coddled. Oh, that's great. I like that. Thank you. Yeah, just caviar on the beach all day for this guy.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Here we go. Delays but not dismay, Mason. Often when there's big delays, people go, hey, hey. We're dismayed. No, don't dismay. Because there'll always be something. It's true. There's always a new Black Adam movie or something happening.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Don't even worry. There's always just another movie they've pumped out on Netflix. Yep. It's about a mystical movie they've pumped out on Netflix. Yep. It's about a mystical land or a school for good and evil. Yeah, you click on it and you're like, oh, this is a series, is it? Oh, God, okay. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Let me just check the Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, no, probably not this one. Oh, it's been cancelled as well. It's been out for two days and they cancelled the second season. Oh, no. Here we go. So Blade has been moved from November 3, 2023 to June of 2024. THR says it's because Marvel conducts a search for a filmmaker to further develop the feature.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Recently Blade lost its director. Apparently Mahershala Ali is like, what the fuck is happening with this? Can we make a Blade movie, please, at some point in my career? I think maybe what they did is somebody finally sat down and they watched Blade 1 again and they're like, oh, our movie isn't as good as this. Yeah. And then they watched Blade 2 and went, oh, no, the thing that we wrote to be better than
Starting point is 00:23:51 Blade 1 isn't better than Blade 2. Then they watched Blade 3 and they went, okay, we didn't need to watch that one. And then they were like, the figures are in. Nobody watched Blade 3. We got to be better than that at least. Could we just call this Blade 3? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So there you go. I'm not surprised by that at all. But we just call this Blade 3? I don't know. Yeah. So there you go. I'm not surprised by that at all. But these other ones, I guess, is a little more surprising. Deadpool 3 has been moved from September of 2024 to November of 2024. That's only a couple of months. Just get an extra ab for Hugh Jackman. He'd get a couple more months there to figure that out, hasn't he? November of 2024, we were getting the Fantastic Four,
Starting point is 00:24:23 but that's moving to February of 2025. Imaginary movie. Not real. They can't see Fantastic Four 2024 anymore. Fantastic Four 2025. Right. That's giving me a brain parasite saying that. No good.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Hated that. Right? They'd have to add a three at the start. Yeah. Okay. And a one and a two. And then a bend. No, you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:44 They go one, two, three. Fantastic Four 2025. That feels good, right? Oh, okay. And a one and a two. A bend and then a bend. No, you know what? They go one, two, three, Fantastic Four 2025. That feels good, right? Like they're pumping you up. I feel good about it. One, two, three, a pause. Yes. And then Fantastic Four 2025. Correct.
Starting point is 00:24:57 You've got to catch your breath before you say Fantastic Four 2025. Okay. I mean, if you did one, two, three, Fantastic Four. And you get six chalk tops in the theatre. Every ticket comes with six chalk tops. I don't want that. I don't if you did one, two, three, Fantastic Four. And you get six Choc Tops in the theatre. Every ticket comes with six Choc Tops. I don't want that. I don't even want one, Mason. I eat them and I'm like, these aren't great.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I love them. The boysenberry one's pretty good. The other one's not that much. What are they? One, two, three, Fantastic Four, 2025. And then it's sequential. That's what I said. But you said leave a gap.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Oh, I said. I thought you said one, two, three, 2020. What am I doing? It doesn't matter. Yeah. Anyway, it's too late. It's too late, isn't it? They've ruined it.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And Avengers Secret Wars goes from November 2025 to May of 2026. And I think that's the second Avengers movie. The fifth. There's going to be a fourth one before that. Correct, yes. Kang's Mates or whatever. That's right, yeah. Too many Kangs. Too many Kangs spoiled or whatever. That's right, yeah. Too many Kangs.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Too many Kangs spoil the whatever. Time stream. Time stream. Time soup. Time soup. Cool. Time broth. Have you got any more news there?
Starting point is 00:25:52 No, that's all we need. We move to the next thing. Did you see Jonathan Major's Men's Health? Jesus Christ, mate. That guy's huge. What has he been doing? Crunches, probably. It seems that way.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah. Insanity. Well, he's going to fight Creed next in Creed. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. That's great. But, I mean, he's always been big. I remember in Lovecraft Country they were like, look at this nerd.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Look at this guy. Yeah, right. He's taking his shirt off and you're like, ah, this is the biggest man in the world actually. Yeah. I don't know what this guy's made of. That's right. Yeah. That man's got four pairs of glasses because there's one on his head and then one on every
Starting point is 00:26:24 set of abs. What a nerd. What a nerd. What a quadruple nerd. But yeah, if Paul Rudd's going to fight him in Quantumania, he's going to have to bulk up. Paul Rudd has abs, but there's only so many abs you can have. That's very true. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:27:53 Correct. It's just Halloween. It's coming up. It's not tax season. I mean, in some places it's tax season. How many regions around the world do you think it is tax season? Let me just quickly do a quick Google, Mason. If you could.
Starting point is 00:28:04 If you could. Tax season ending October 31st in Australia. Get those TRs in. That's right. I'm talking about tax returns. Get them in. Talk to your tax guy. Do it yourself.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Do it on the app. Absolutely. Oh, New Zealand, October. That's interesting. Maybe. I don't know. Do it on the tax office website. Do it in the tax app.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Do it in a taxi. That's a great idea. If you're coming home from the club, do your taxes in the taxi. Find me in the club doing my taxes. Find me in the club. What am I doing? I've just got a series of, like, I've got my paperwork laid out on the floor. The floor's sticky from all the drinks that have been spilled.
Starting point is 00:28:36 My receipts went out the window of the taxi. Taxi man, can you turn your taxi around? I've got to get my receipts. Anyways. I mean, I can show them my bank statement, but it's not the same, especially if I get audited. Yeah. Mr. Taxi man, can you turn your taxi around? I've got to get my receipts. Anyways. I mean, I can show them my bank statement, but it's not the same, especially if I get audited. Yeah. Mr. Taxi man.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It is weird. I think it is worse in other countries in the world where they make you do your taxes and then if you're wrong, they're like, now you're going to jail or you're wrong. It's like, well, if you know, why am I doing it? As I understand it, in the UK you don't have to do your taxes. They're just done for you. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah. Wow. It's harder to find loopholes. That's very interesting. Why are there so many rich toffs in the UK? They're all like, eww, eww. Great question. I'm frail because my parents were siblings, eww.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Because it's fun to do that. It's fun to hold your hands like that and go, eww, eww. Very good. Anyways, Mason, Michael Halloween is back, and this time he lives in a gutter or something. That's right. We'll talk about it. Also, he's mad or he's indifferent.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I don't know. He's certainly frail. Yeah. And maybe magic. Maybe he's magic. Now, the opening weekend. Tell you what, though. That town sucks.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Haddonfield's the worst. The worst, right? I moved to Haddonfield. Nah, it's even worse than that town with the spooky clown. At least that town is, like, it's got a magic clown fucking it up. Right? This is just a dude. Some dude.
Starting point is 00:29:48 What are you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you doing? And also, if the clown is there, if you believe in yourself enough, you can beat him up with a tire iron. That's right. This guy, you've got no chance unless you have a gun, in which case you're probably fine.
Starting point is 00:30:00 But even then, yeah. So this is, despite going to streaming also, I was looking to have a $50 million to $60 million US opening. Interesting. So it then, yeah. So this is, despite going to streaming also, is looking to have a $50-60 million US opening. Interesting. So this is pretty phenomenal. It's available in cinemas, most places around the world, on Peacock in the US. Australia, for the moment,
Starting point is 00:30:15 it's only in theatres, but you know. Enjoy the theatre experience. That's what I'm saying. Get six chalk tops. Do what I do. Show up on like a Tuesday morning. There's nobody there. That's what I'm saying. Get six chalk tops. Do what I do. Show up on like a Tuesday morning. Yeah, exactly. There's nobody there.
Starting point is 00:30:27 It's just what you want to do. That's right. Get in. I love a Thursday morning myself. Scrape all the popcorn off the seats. It's all yours. Yeah, definitely. So this actually looks like it's going to open ahead of Halloween Kills.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Terrific. I guess the brand of Halloween has not diminished in the eyes of the Lord. So that's good. And also I think that there has been a lot of, maybe it's just our awareness of it, but I don't think it is. I think there's a lot more horror content. Like that's a genre where you don't need a lot of money. No.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And I think a lot of, you know, not everything's a Marvel multi-hundred million dollar. You'll get a smile. Well, exactly. Not everything's a multi-hundred million dollar blockbuster. People can just have an idea and go and get some friends and a small amount of money and kind of work it up. And I think maybe a lot of people are like,
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'm into horror now because it's good and it's fun and there are good ideas. And I think maybe it's translated to this. It's like, well, I've seen a bunch of horror movies and there's a new Halloween and that's the classic. Good as any. So this is the second reboot, right? This is the second reboot. So the original was 1978 and there was a new Halloween and that's the classic. Good as any. So this is the second reboot, right? This is the second reboot.
Starting point is 00:31:26 So the original was 1978. Yep. And there was a bunch of sequels. Rob Zombie. Rob Zombie. There was two Rob Zombie movies. Yeah, but I think H2O wiped out some of the previous ones. Just Add Water, sure.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Just Add Water. And then there was the Rob Zombie ones. Yes. And then they ended. And so this new reboot is a sequel just to the first movie for people who are catching Yes, but this is the third of the first movie for people who are catching up. Yes, but this is the third of the new reboots. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:31:47 That's true. So if you're going by this continuity, there's the first one, there's Halloween again in 2018, I want to say. Halloween again in 2018. Halloween kills the one where the town goes mad or whatever. That's right. And then Halloween ends. Yes. Where Halloween maybe it ends or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Anyways, I wish there was somebody here, and maybe you can help me with this, who could tell us what the story was. All right. Do you remember the last two Halloween movies? Yeah, I know, sort of. Okay, so the first Halloween movie of the reboot, the second reboot.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Okay. Should have got it Halloween. Wait, in 1970. With a dollar sign. In 1970. Shalloween. I like it. Yeah. It's a real shallow reading of the ween discography. 1970, Shalloween. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:28 It's a real shallow reading of the ween discography. I think those guys are great. Anyway. Could make some of those songs these days. So at the end of the first Halloween, 1978 Halloween. Yeah. So in that movie. Good movie, by the way.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah, it is good. Michael Myers. You might be like, oh, it's dated and whatever. Look at So in that movie. Good movie, by the way. Yeah, it is good. Michael Myers. You might be like, oh, it's dated and whatever, look at all these tropes. But it invented a bunch of that shit. That's true. Escaped psychopath Michael Myers, The Shape. I think his name is Michael Halloween. We're going.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Okay, Michael Halloween. He gets out there in Haddonfield and he mucks it all up and he kills some young people, some teens, but he doesn't kill Laurie Strode. But why? It's a great question, which is explored in some of the sequels that are no longer in continuity, so it's none of your goddamn business, James. Okay, sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And then flash forward many, many decades. Yep, there was a Rob Zombie reboot. No, we're skipping those. Keep going. Yeah, keep flashing forward. Yeah, so we're flashing forward a bit more, but not too far. No. Because then we get to after this movie we've just seen and that's too late. Yeah. Nobody would understand what's going on. Keep flashing forward. Yeah, yeah. So we're flashing forward a bit more, but not too far. No. Because then we get to after this movie we've just seen,
Starting point is 00:33:26 and that's too late. Yeah. Nobody would understand what's going on. I love that. So flash a little bit back to 2018's Halloween second reboot where the premise is that Michael Halloween was captured after Halloween in 1978, and he's been in a mental institution for decades or a prison.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Laurie Strode's like, this dude's going to get out. That's right. And I hate podcasting. That's right. Yeah I hate podcasting. That's right. Yeah. And then he does get out and he kills those podcasters and then some other stuff, but it's largely irrelevant because I was just so steaming mad.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Evil dies tonight. That's right. And then, but it turns out, twist, that actually Laurie Strode had prepared for him and her daughter and her granddaughter had prepared for him and they muck him up. Yeah. They get him real bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And then we're like, nice, good capper to the Halloween. Halloween. Halloween. Halloween. Not Michael Halloween, though. Not Michael Halloween, though. Just regular Halloween. Regular Halloween.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And then they were like, hey, what if instead of this being the capper to this franchise, how about we squeeze out two more sequels? And so there was the last one, which was just filler to this one. Yeah. And now Michael Halloween's in a cave or something or in a pit or something. He's in the sewers. I did think at the start, like, because it's four years.
Starting point is 00:34:40 We'll do some non-spoilers and then we'll just close. Anyway, he's back and he's still around. He's sort of back for some of it um i i i was surprised by that judy grier was actually dead i didn't think they would go through with that yeah she was stabbed i thought she was gonna come back and be like i also i know i'm laurie strode now whatever and i'm made mad and crazy see see what happened see what i think i believe happened and i don't know if you have that data here or if you can remember it from last time we talked about this, the Halloween 2018 reboot,
Starting point is 00:35:08 I believe, was supposed to be a standalone. I think you might be right. It was supposed to be a standalone. There was obviously a little tease at the end because you cannot not do that with horror movies. The idea being that there was some evil in Laurie Strode's granddaughter. Yeah, okay. Because remember they were leaving, they were leaving the,
Starting point is 00:35:29 Michael Myers gets, he's in the burning house. Yeah yeah and the assumption is he's died but not really wink wink and then it was like but as but as something has the trauma affected laurie strode's granddaughter as well and maybe they'll be back and then i think what they did was they said okay we've got based on that we've got enough plot a sequel, but what if instead of just doing a sequel, we do a filler movie and then we do a sequel? So I think what Halloween Ends is is a sequel to the 2018 Halloween because it does share elements, I think. Like speaking of the idea that the granddaughter is going to, the trauma is affecting her mind in an odd way.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And I think that's what this is. Like I think you could very easily skip the middle one and you should and just go to this one. I don't think it really affects. Because the Halloween Kills really, it did the John Wick 3 thing where the character's pretty much, besides the death of Judy Greer's character, it's pretty much the same. I mean you get some appearances from people who are in that movie.
Starting point is 00:36:27 There's the woman who, and her husband was murdered, and she's in a wheelchair now, and there's like little nods towards it. But, yeah, I liked this more than the last one. Yeah, definitely. I don't think it's great, but it's certainly more interesting than what they did the last time. But I think in a few years this will be, this is, if you've seen a bunch of these, this is one of the better sequels.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I think so too. But there's been some not very good sequels to these movies. But I think if they skipped the last one, they could have very easily had Judy Greer's character killed like the first kill in this. You're right, absolutely right. And any of the other sort of ancillary characters could have been killed at the start or towards the middle somewhere
Starting point is 00:37:04 and it wouldn't make any difference to the plot kind of thing. So, yeah, he's back. I didn't buy that Laurie Strode had moved on. Yeah, in this movie. I guess she hasn't really, I guess. She starts life. She appears to be, when we see her, she's in a much better place seemingly.
Starting point is 00:37:20 She's very kind of happy-go-lucky. Normal house, writing a book. She's flirting with the sheriff. What an awkward pair of dorks standing together in the supermarket. Him with his comb over and he's, just get a haircut, mate. Just trim it back. What are you doing? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah, I like that guy too. He was in the movie Armageddon, I believe. Oh, yeah, that's right. But I did like the idea that there is still this kind of, this like communal madness in the town. Yes. This man has broken the psyche of so many people. I think they just bulldoze it.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah, I agree. Put up apartments already. Yeah, exactly. Or just a big car park. Oh, yes. Just a huge- Next town, a car park for the next town. Car park for the next town, exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So it opens the- The shuttle service from where you park to the next town. Absolutely. So it opens with, there's a, not what you'd say is a traditional killing. So a babysitter is involved. I can spoil this, I guess? I think so, yeah. Just to be clear also, if you're not on board with kids being killed.
Starting point is 00:38:17 God damn, yeah. In a particularly brutal way, not even a horror movie way, just in like a domestic accident kind of way. I have nightmares about dropping my kids down a flight of stairs. way not even a horror movie way just in like a domestic accident kind of i have like nightmares about like dropping my kids down like a flight of stairs like it was just horrendous so yeah so he's babysitting and a new guy a new guy and cory yeah and i don't understand because they're watching the thin thing and they got to the moment where the thing bites off the guy's hands at the wrists and he's like oh maybe i should turn this off or whatever maybe this is a bit rough but how
Starting point is 00:38:43 do you get that far into the thing? Great question. Past the dog head splitting moment and go, oh, actually, this is a bit rough. Maybe you're on your phone. Oh, that's true, yeah. But I think it was a pretty interesting opening. So it kind of, I guess this is sort of, this is a spoiler.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Michael Myers isn't necessarily the main antagonist in this movie. So Corey, this character, some years ago he's babysitting for a family. He's babysitting this eight-year-old kid maybe. This horrible little boy. And the kid does a little prank and locks him in an attic and then Corey kicks the door open and the kid falls down some stairs and he dies. And he doesn't go to prison for it because I guess it's an accident,
Starting point is 00:39:27 but he sort of becomes one of the town's pariahs along with Laurie Strode. Yeah. They're like, oh, kid killer, whatever kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. And that's – he becomes sort of very withdrawn and odd. Yeah. I'm sure he was odd already. Yeah, I didn't like him from the get-go.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I'm going to be honest with you before I kill that kid. But, yeah, I'm like – But that really put the nail in the coffin. Yeah, certainly, yeah. The kid certainly yeah it's called it didn't yeah it didn't like swing it the other way for me let's yeah right terrific okay so okay so yeah i i also think uh you know it's it's interesting that like i i was like how could michael halloween have disappeared like four years this dude is scarred he's missing fingers he's enormous he never takes that mask off yeah how could he's been in jail for 40 years. How is this guy surviving?
Starting point is 00:40:08 He seems to have like an unending thirst for killing. Yeah. Like how has he not killed anybody for years? How has he gone to ground? And then I'm like, oh, no, he lives in a pipe. Like he's fucking Super Mario or whatever. Not only that, he lives in a pipe. He lives in a crack in a wall.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Super Mario doesn't live in a pipe. So you're right. He lives in the Mushroom Kingdom, I think. Or the regular world. Or the regular world. But he lives inside a pipe. In addition to that, in a crack in the wall in the pipe. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I think he lives in. Yeah, yeah. And consumes bugs, one assumes. Yeah, and he's doing his murders and whatever he's up to. But he's not what he used to be. And so, again, there's this kind of collective madness and the madness of Michael Myers and the town pushing people to their extremes. And is the, I guess, and the question becomes is,
Starting point is 00:40:54 is it the town creating people like Michael Myers and sort of is there something to him that can be passed along to another person, I think, maybe, and who will that person be and what will it become and, you know, that sort of stuff. Et cetera, yeah. Which is an interesting take, I think. I agree. I don't think it completely comes together. Again, I don't think this is great, but because of the last one,
Starting point is 00:41:16 I really thought I would hate this. Yeah, same. And I saw the reviews weren't great, so I'm like, okay. But this is not a stirring endorsement. Don't get me wrong. But I think there's some interesting stuff. I think it's worth a watch. I think if you have Peacock or you can, when it's on streaming, if you want to get it at home.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Or if you have a Peacock and you can maybe trade that Peacock for a DVD copy of this. Yes, exactly. Like a barter system. That's right, yes. But then you also, you probably need a DVD player if you don't have one. A lot of people don't have those anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Maybe you've got an old PlayStation you could use. I think PlayStation 3, do they play Blu-rays, do they? Or they just do... PS4 does. PS4 at least does, yeah. I think PlayStation 3 does Blu-rays. It's interesting. That's terrific.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Anyways... Keep physical media alive, that's what I say. I completely agree. Anyway, look, I'm going to say best movie ever. I thought it was pretty fun. I thought the performances were interesting. I would say best movie ever with a bunch of caveats to it. Okay, right right like you have to like this stuff you also have to be aware of what it is you also have to know that it's not going to be as good as like the best stuff in this yeah right
Starting point is 00:42:12 in this so but are there any i don't think there are any horror movie fans out there who are just like i know this i know this 10th or 11th movie in this franchise is going to be the best one yeah i just know it is and i know it in my heart. I think there's some okay kills as well. So should we just do spoilers now? Spoilers. Okay, so there's a moment in this where- You see the big metal mashing machine and I'm like, who's going in that machine?
Starting point is 00:42:35 Oh, yeah, yeah, right. Loved it, Mason. I didn't think they were going to pay it off, but they did. I guess the number one question then is, of course, does Halloween end? Yeah. And in a rare turn, I guess they were like, I think maybe people who watch this franchise are sick
Starting point is 00:42:48 of this normal man just coming back no matter what, even though he's received like gunshot wounds to the head and bits of him cut off. They're like, no, we're going to kill this guy. We're putting him in a metal crusher. And he's like sick and old. Yeah, yeah. Like you can, so basically, okay, so the kid,
Starting point is 00:43:07 if you haven't seen it and you're just here anyway. Yes. The second villain of this is, and for the most part of this movie, is the guy that killed the kid apparently wasn't a bad kid initially, but the town pushed him to the brink. And he happens to run into Michael Myers. In a pipe. In a pipe.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yes. Where he lives, like Super Mario. And Michael Myersers when grabbing him sees in his eyes that yes the kid is like him yeah i think so some kind of almost magical initially i'm like okay was this because we see michael myers looks in his eyes and we see all kinds of flashbacks to this kid's life including the death of the kid and all this sort of stuff and i think i think that is to be, it's more of a metaphor. Totally, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Like he just sees the pain in his eyes and he goes, okay, well, this is a kid like me. And Laurie Strode has the same powers. She can identify that in a person in an absolute heartbeat. She can be anywhere. If you're lying on the floor, say, having a nap where a kid fell from a big set of stairs in a pile of blood, she'll be waiting for you there in the morning.
Starting point is 00:44:05 She knows what you're up to and she doesn't like that you're dating her granddaughter, God damn it. But initially she does. Yeah, she does. Again, I just don't believe that anybody could initially like this guy before he was a murderer. I didn't like him initially, as I said, and when she's dating this guy, I'm just like, no.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Right, yeah, yeah. Just no. I know she's had her own traumas. I really like him, but he's just occasionally just like freaks out and storms away. He's having a big tantrum all the time. He also nearly gets hit by a car a couple of times. I don't know if you noticed that.
Starting point is 00:44:36 But, yeah, so he's – Also, he doesn't need his glasses anymore. He gets his glasses stepped on. It's the eyes thing, I guess. He's just fixed. He's just fixed. Well, it's also interesting. Like there were elements of this where I'm like, okay, is this supposed to be kind of pseudo-mystical thing? stepped on it's the icing i guess he's just fixed he's just fixed well it's also interesting like
Starting point is 00:44:45 there were there were elements of this where i'm like okay is this supposed to be kind of pseudo mystical thing like it's what what at one point cory meets michael myers in the pipe where mario lives and then he he you know seems to be sort of encouraged to go out and and yeah do evil and murders and what have you and i'm like is that okay that's sort of mystical but then and do evil and murders and what have you. And I'm like, okay, that's sort of mystical. But then he lures a police officer into near the pipe. Yeah, like a goomba.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Right, and he helps Michael Myers kill him. And then Michael Myers, Halloween, he seems to like gain in powers. And I'm like, okay, is this mystical or is this? Do you remember from the last movie like he, he does, like, he gets powers. It almost seems like he grows in strength from anger from the town. Yeah, right, right. I think that's what they were going for here. Okay. But I don't think it is supposed to be mystical.
Starting point is 00:45:35 It's more kind of like he's just feeling pretty encouraged, I guess. That's right, yes. At the end of the day. But, again, there is this, like. It's like he went to a workshop or seminar. Yeah. On self-esteem. A Tony Robbins. Yes. A bad guy doing bad things. But again, there is this like. It's like he went to a workshop or seminar. On self-esteem. A Tony Robbins.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yes. A bad guy doing bad things. Corey is Tony Robbins of murder. That's what he is. He's like, you can do it. So Tony Robbins. Yes, you can do it, Michael Myers. And I did enjoy that they go on a little murder spree together.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And Corey, he's got his motorbike. And I just would have loved if they had been seen on the motorbike together. Right. Like Corey's driving them around to their murders. Take My Breath Away is playing. Most of those murders are Corey murders though. I think that makes sense as we've mentioned Michael Myers is getting on in years and it just doesn't seem to make any sense anymore that this guy.
Starting point is 00:46:21 No, and you can, at this point, you can, if you're like fit enough, you could fight him one-to-one for a bit. Very easily. Yeah. I'd simply not let, I've thought about this, my favourite guy when talking about any kind of pop culture is just Guy who's built different. I love Guy who's built different.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah, I would just actually. I just wouldn't. I would just, what I would actually do is I'd just put the one ring on and I'd turn invisible and then I'd walk past all the orc forces and I'd put it in Mount Doom. Absolutely. I mean, isn't the one ring made out of the most powerful evil magic in all of Middle Earth?
Starting point is 00:46:54 Wouldn't it turn you evil? Nah. Not me, I reckon. Yeah, I reckon. Because I knew what had to be done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. I'd do it for the good of the kingdom.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Yeah, so I reckon I would just defeat Michael Myers very easily. With the one ring. Yeah. Or a gun. Or invisible and you'd drop him into mount dome yes yeah absolutely yeah uh but yeah and my initial thought was okay the idea behind this is that evil is contagious for whatever reason and cory is going to become the new i think there is something to do that you know like a mob mentality you know we've seen it yeah right people get like riled up in a would you fight would you say that could i beat michael march yeah definitely yeah definitely absolutely yeah yeah yeah yeah if it was both of us together i'm no chance this guy right he wouldn't even show up embarrassing
Starting point is 00:47:32 yeah yeah yeah we'd just be doing doughies outside his house like hey come out michael what are you afraid of we just want to talk all right we're gonna beat him up um i thought my feeling was it would have been more satisfying and i don't know if you agree with this if michael myers had done more of the killings in the movie yeah and it's revealed that that evil was transferred to cory and at the end michael myers is put in the big metal shredder and then maybe cory is there i agree he's like well i'm gonna be michael myers now i agree. And he's like, well, I'm going to be Michael Myers now. I'll be Michael Myers.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I agree. I think there's still, and we'll talk about, I guess we can talk about this now, but I think there will be a follow-up to this. Maybe it will be another reboot in a few years or whatever, but I think that this idea of a collective town madness will carry on. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And it seems as if they've definitively killed Corey, which surprised me because it felt like that he was the guy who was going to carry on the legacy of the character. I mean, they could have, you know, the notions of how you can die or how long you can live in these movies after you've been stabbed in the neck or shot or whatever. Well, he was stabbed and then he had his head like twisted all the way around.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it honestly would not shock me if at the start of the next one they went, there's just some ADR over that scene with the paramedic going, he's still alive. He's still alive. And then at the end, and then he becomes the new one. Yeah, I'm the new one. I'm the new one.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And we go to his house. Yeah. Come out. It would also, I would have loved if they'd finally taken Michael Myers' mask off at the end of it and it was just William Shatner. So good. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I've heard that people say that the kills weren't great and I'd agree with that but there are a couple that are particularly brutal. There's like a blowtorch to the mouth scenario and there's one where he cuts like a guy's tongue off and that was pretty grim. The blowtorch to the head one was very – We didn't see it. Well, that's the thing and I wonder if that is a function of,
Starting point is 00:49:23 well, it's on Peacock. Yeah. Kids might be watching. So. I guess. But that tongue thing was pretty. That was pretty brutal. Yeah. Brutal.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah. Oh, yeah. How do you feel about this? We never really understood the motivation behind Michael. Yeah. Look, I don't mind not understanding the motivation. But the problem is the last movie was like he just wanted to stand at that window. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And it's like, well, does he not want to do that anymore? Does he want to stand in his pipe? So I guess the point is he's an unknowable entity. He's also, it's hinted at, or a few people say that he's like mentally disabled. So he's not, and he's obviously something wrong with him, but like he's got like a child's brain. Okay, yeah, sure. Like he's not, so it's brain okay yeah like he's not so it's
Starting point is 00:50:05 kind of you should feel sympathy for him because he's not he's not he's not you know he's got like a the mind of like a simpleton or whatever right okay right yeah which i guess could be true but because he yeah i mean he'd have to if he lived in a gutter for four years like yeah yeah i i don't i don't know but i i don't know what the i think audience is a little bit divided and i think maybe there's a probably a lot of hardcore Halloween purists who are like, yeah, the whole point is he's unknowable. It's just sometimes in the world there's an evil and he's just born that way or it's just evil exists
Starting point is 00:50:36 and sometimes bad things happen to good people or whatever it is. And I think some people, and I think maybe me, and also I think they have explored the origins of that. In multiple circles. Where they're like, okay, well, maybe he's Laurie Strode's brother or any other kind of. Maybe he likes to stand at that window. Maybe he likes to stand at a window.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of, given that this is supposed to be supposedly and allegedly the last movie in this version of this franchise, I would have liked to have seen some kind of resolution as to why he is the way he is. But I think I would have preferred it if in the last movie they didn't say he just wants to stand in that window. But also that's a guess.
Starting point is 00:51:12 They don't really know. And they just never did it as opposed to like kind of go, I guess maybe the window. And then they don't do anything else with it. I thought though Laurie Strode, I mean, Jamie Lee Curtis is always good, but she does a suicide fake out. Oh, yeah, right. She's an amazing actor, like not only as a person, but within the movie she's also amazing. She's always got a little trick happening.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Did you really think I would commit suicide, Michael Myers, and the audience? That's right, a little something for everybody. I really like that fake out. And I guess it was, you know, Grand Order comes in and is like, oh, no no you murdered this man or they love or whatever and that kind of wrapped itself up pretty pretty quickly but i did enjoy that fight that they had and you know they're more evenly matched because she's in
Starting point is 00:51:55 relatively good shape for her age and he's been on fire and missing fingers and shot in the head and all of these different things and she really just takes her time with murdering this guy. Like she has him pinned and then she's just like slowly like just kind of cuts him to pieces. Opening up all his veins and arteries, yeah. Yeah, and just lets him all kind of go. And then the townsfolk, collective madness, take him to the car crusher.
Starting point is 00:52:17 They have a little Halloween parade. A little Halloween parade. And they throw his dumb ass in. Yeah. See, I feel that's the moment where in a movie that was written a little differently, perhaps we'd seen Corey do some of the murders but not be revealed as the murderer. Or perhaps we'd see, maybe we see a bunch of murders happening
Starting point is 00:52:36 and some are like, well, that's pretty impressive for a guy of that age or what have you. Yeah. And at the end of the movie it goes, okay, we see him get thrown into the crusher and then we realise and we maybe have some little flashbacks and we see that actually Corey did some of the murders. Did the mask go in?
Starting point is 00:52:51 No, the mask is on Laurie's coffee table at the end of the movie. Okay, right. Vicky, just buy another one. Yeah. We can 3D print one. That's true. Yeah. But I think at the end it should have been like,
Starting point is 00:53:03 and then we pan over the crowd and Corey's in there and he's like, but I did some of those murders and I'm going to do more murders. Excuse me? Nothing. Nothing. You didn't hear anything about my murders that I did. That's right. Or didn't do, actually.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I didn't do any murders. I didn't do any murders. Yeah, so I think in continuing this, it will be, who else is mad from this town that we can. Laurie Strode's granddaughter. You reckon she's going to turn. Unless she's over it. Maybe she's, maybe she's.
Starting point is 00:53:28 She seemed all right. I'm fine now, she said. She seemed, she seemed all right. But do you see like Jamie Lee Curtis coming back? No, I, I read something. I don't know if this is true, but I read something that it was definitely on Twitter. So it's probably not true. That apparently somewhere in that contract, she's like, no one's ever going to ask me
Starting point is 00:53:42 to do it again. Like I won't do it. I won't, I'm not going going to do anymore and you cannot ask me she gets a little and i will sue you if i get a phone call but do you want to see more of this are you happy for this to stop forever bearing in mind that it won't i would like to see okay what would you prefer to see a continuation of this version or another reboot i think a continuation of this yeah i another reboot? I think a continuation of this. Yeah, I think this because I like, you know, the characters who are left alive.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I like her granddaughter as a character. I don't mind that idea that maybe she turns evil. But, you know, yeah. Oh, you know what? She just went on Jimmy Kimmel and on the show she signed a contract saying she'd never do another one. Oh, okay. Yeah, fine.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Good on her. She also said that 20 years ago. She sure did, didn't she? Maybe she will. Maybe she bloody will, mate. Anyways, all in all, what a weird set of movies. You better believe it. But I'm glad they exist.
Starting point is 00:54:37 About the nature of evil sort of probably. Yeah. Evil dies tonight. And it did this time. Went to a big metal masher, didn't it? Unless, as you mentioned you know there's something wrong
Starting point is 00:54:46 with him in which case yeah just a guy died tonight a metal crusher it's really sad when you think about it that is sad cool
Starting point is 00:54:56 alright should we move to the next segment move on to the next segment I think I'm ready alright great and do you know what it's called though it's called What We Readin'
Starting point is 00:55:01 yep What We Gonna Read yeah that's right it's called Two Things well it's not called Two Things. There are like kind of two parts to that. But yeah, that's basically what you've done the right thing there. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Here we go. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Mason? Yes? This is the second of the show where we talk to each other and we say hello oh hello
Starting point is 00:55:26 and then we say what are we reading that's terrific what do you got this week Maceman James what I did you wouldn't even
Starting point is 00:55:32 bloody believe this I watched the movie Bullet Train oh yeah and pretty good yeah I didn't mind it either it's very much in the vein
Starting point is 00:55:38 of an early Guy Ritchie a snatcher a lock stock with some John Wick style karate some colourful characters and they've got to get a thing. Yep. They've got to get a real MacGuffin or that thing I said earlier.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah. Matugan or whatever it was. Yeah, okay, sure. And it all sort of unravels at the end. I thought the performances were good. I thought the setting was good. Is it based on a comic book? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Okay, right. Certainly based on something. I think it's the director of Deadpool 2. I see. Who might be one of the John Wick guys. I don't know at this point. Terrific. But, yeah, what a cast of colourful characters, Mason.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I thought the action was pretty solid. Some nice guest appearances or cameos, rather, I think. I mean, I feel it loses momentum, no pun intended, at the end because there's so much that is, you know, where all the characters are linked together in unlikely ways. There are a few sections specifically towards the end where, like, there's a lot of exposition of, like, well, actually, and then you killed this guy,
Starting point is 00:56:38 but actually secretly in the car was this other guy, and he saw it, and then... You're the MacGuffin. You had it, but I have it. But I thought it was fun. Yep, fair enough. I don't disagree. Now, next week we're going to do a Halloween themed episode
Starting point is 00:56:50 because it is the spookiest time of year. That's right. Not tax time. Well, for some it is. I'm not talking about tax time, I should say. I misspoke then. When are you ever going to talk about tax time? When people tell me.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So write in, tell me. Okay, great. So next, oh wait, no, next week won't be Halloween. Next week will probably be Black Adam. That's right. And then the following week. So write in. Tell me. Okay, great. So next week won't be Halloween. Next week will probably be Black Adam. That's right. And then the following week will be Halloween stuff. So I've been just watching a bunch of new and old Halloween stuff to get ready for that and for Suggestible, my other less successful podcast.
Starting point is 00:57:16 But we did watch, and I guess I won't spoil it here, a super fun thing for Halloween for Caravan of Garbage, which we not spoil it yet, but it's. I can't remember what it is. What a delight. I'm miming it out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very horny stuff. Very horny stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:33 That'll be a couple of weeks. But this week for Caravan of Garbage, we've done the Scorpion King. That's right. So not Matt and Lawrence, Ben and Lawrence. Yeah. Editing that together. Okay. So for a couple of weeks time, we're just' time, we're going to watch some horror.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yep. Some new and old stuff. And send some stuff in as well. Send some stuff our way that you think might be interesting. I'm going to watch Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. Is that a horror movie? I've watched Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. Is that a horror movie?
Starting point is 00:57:56 It is, yeah. I really enjoyed that. We can talk about that. Also, I've got this lined up. Fantastic Four issue 48 by David Papoose and Juan Cabal. Also, I've got this lined up, Fantastic Four Issue 48 by David Papoose and Juan Cabal. Okay. This has been marketed and said to be diehard in the Baxter building.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Okay. Issue 48, is that recent? Is that this year's, this month's? This one that just came out. So trapped alone inside the Baxter building with no backup inside, the Invisible Woman battles her way up 35 flights of death traps to stop the mad scientist Obliet Midas. So I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but that sounds great
Starting point is 00:58:29 and apparently it's good. Cool. Probably shouldn't have put so many death traps in your own building. Well, what do you do? Don't do that. Use a force field. Perfect, go invisible. I think I would simply go invisible.
Starting point is 00:58:39 What would I do? And then activate all my force fields and then I would just simply easily get up to the top of it. Can she fly? No, but she can sort of, if she builds a bunch of invisible platforms. There you go. Just do that. Just do that.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Come on. That's what you'd do, I reckon. So, yeah, those are all the things that I've been reading this week. Anything else? You've been on anything? You're doing anything? That's a great question. My episode of Who Knew It with Matt Stewart was not out last week.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Maybe it's out this week. Wow. Who's to say? I was also on Stupid Old Podfest. I don't know if I mentioned that. That's what I was referred to. Thank you. Good memory.
Starting point is 00:59:09 If you go to sospresents.com, I believe you can buy the video on demand. It's like 10 hours of various different shows. Wow. I was on Confessions of the East with Sammy P, Michelle Brazier. Wonderful. Rodan Kelly. And it's only $1,000. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:59:23 $1,000. Yeah. And you might think that's a000. Is that right? $1,000. Yeah. And you might think that's a lot, but that's actually a fun. That's canny marketing because when you go to buy the ticket, it'll be less than that. Yeah, that's right. You'll be pleasantly surprised when you buy $1,000 worth of tickets for you and all your friends.
Starting point is 00:59:36 That was super fun. It was good to do that show and catch up with people. It was nice. Absolutely. I couldn't do it because I was busy that weekend. Oh, yes, washing your hair? Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Just know that I was there in spirit. Okay, great. But I literally wasn't there also. You were not there at all? No, no, no. Just to clarify. Not even a cameo or anything? No, no, not even.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yeah. And that's how I was. I did bring up a picture of you on my phone and everybody booed it though. What? Yeah. Because you didn't hold it up high enough? That's correct, yes. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yes. I thought you had me worried then for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Yeah. What's the next thing? Oh, the next. What are we doing? The next thing is letters. Yeah, cool. Yes. That's why I thought you had me worried there for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. What's the next thing? Oh, the next thing. What are we doing? The next thing is letters. People send in letters. Yeah, people send letters. And there's a theme song attached to letters. It goes like this.
Starting point is 01:00:13 The classic one was... Letters, oh letters, we love you some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now, we're going to do letters. Mason was doing a funny little letters dance. I wish I was doing a funny little letters dance, James.
Starting point is 01:00:30 You did a funny little letters dance. You were grooving along like it was some smooth yacht rock is what you were doing there, which I was very impressed by. Thank you. Just getting into the letters theme, which I appreciate. Now you can tweet at us directly, at MrSundayMovies or at Wikipedia Brown, or you can hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter to send us a letter.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Mason also, he's got his Gmail open. This is his private Gmail. No, it's WeeklyPlanetPod at Gmail.com. Have you got any letters, Mason? I do. This is from Joel. Hi, James and Mason. Thanks for the pod and caravan.
Starting point is 01:01:01 No worries. Always a bright spot in the week. This past weekend, I watched Werewolf by Night at 6.30am. I made this odd but strategic choice because I had an hour between my wife, who hates horror films, leaving for work, and my five-year-old waking up. Damn, yeah. It did feel weird to watch a scary show that early in the morning, so I wanted to ask, is there an ideal time of day to watch specific genres of film?
Starting point is 01:01:21 Thank you, Sean. Oh, great question. Well, it depends. Like, if you're afraid of being spooked, if you're having spooky times, watch it on your phone in your lunch break at work. Nice, and people are around you. Yeah, people are around you. They're like, hey, what are you watching?
Starting point is 01:01:32 You're like, mind your business. That is true, though. Like it does kind of counteract the horror if you are. But, I mean, I guess it depends what it is. Like if it is like a, you know, horror slasher movie or something like that. But if it's one of those horror movies that's just kind of like it's a creepy stalker movie or something like that, the time of day doesn't really feel relevant there.
Starting point is 01:01:54 That's true. Because they could show up all morning outside your house. Hi. Yeah. I've got your mail. Mind your business. I need my mail, but I don't want to talk to this guy. What do I do?
Starting point is 01:02:01 Just leave it on the – Man, this guy stalks me every couple of days with his Australia post uniform on, bringing me letters, this stalker. Luckily I've got this gun. Yeah, I'll shoot him with this gun. I hit him with a brick there and I'll do two things. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Yeah, what other genres though? What times of the day? I mean we often also watch – if we're doing a media screening or I like to, as I mentioned earlier, like to watch a movie when there's nobody else in the cinema. So I will often go to like 11 a.m. Same. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I'll see anything at 11 a.m. I don't know. I think it transports me to a magical world, I find. That sounded really sarcastic, but I like. What are you, Nicole Kidman in that ad that everyone makes fun of? Yes, that we don't have here. We'd make fun of her. If it was here, we'd make fun of her.
Starting point is 01:02:42 We'd make so much fun of her. No, I don't know. I love seeing a movie early in the day. much fun of her. No, I don't know. I love seeing a movie early in the day. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I completely agree. And it's definitely something to be said for you actually concentrate when you're in the theatre as opposed to being at home. If I'm at home and I'm like, okay, I've got to watch this properly,
Starting point is 01:02:57 it really is like if I'm watching in the studio, I put the blinds down. I have to put my laptop and my phone like the other side of the room. Yeah, right. Otherwise I will just open them. Is there a moment where you're like you have the urge to stand up? Yeah, all the times down. I have to put my laptop and my phone like the other side of the room. Yeah, right. Otherwise I will just open them. Is there a moment where you're like you have the urge to stand up? Yeah, all the time. Yeah, but I do like being able to go get a food.
Starting point is 01:03:11 But also I'm also torn because, again, I do love the daytime movie, but it is, especially in pre-COVID times, it was so much fun to go to a Marvel movie at Saturday night or opening night and just that's the time to see it. No, I prefer it alone. Okay. It's okay. Alone, quiet.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yeah. I've got a gun, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were waving it about, screaming, I've got a gun. Yeah, it's just, yeah. I saw League of Superbets with my son and we went, I think it was school holiday, so it was a few weeks back. And I don't mind like a screening like that with kids
Starting point is 01:03:45 and people are talking. I'm like, I don't give a shit about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's fine. It's fine as a movie. But so, yeah, I don't get upset really when people are loud and jumping about generally. I don't care if that was the question, which it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:03:57 That was absolutely the question. Oh, here's a little side note. Here's two side notes. Yeah. One related, one completely unrelated. I didn't like The Rock is Crypto though. Why? What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:04:05 Don't do that. It's weird. In Werewolf by Night, you know the hunter who's got the big white beard and the big axe? He was the punk that Spock nerve-pitched in Star Trek IV. How cool is that? I go back in time. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:04:18 What happened to his mohawk? I like to think it's the same universe and he's just constantly on the hunt for that Vulcan. That's why he's become who he is. So he thinks it's a monster that did that Vulcan. That's why he's become who he is. So he thinks it's a monster that did that to him. That's exactly right, yeah. It sparked his whole career. And the other thing that's unrelated, we didn't mention it, but Angela Lansbury passed away.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Oh yeah, 96! 96, yeah. Damn, Beauty and the Beast, Murder, She Wrote, Bed, Knobs and Broom, Sticks. All the greats. But what it reminded me, and I had completely blanked on this, but it all came flooding back, speaking of going to see things, I saw Angela Lansbury and James Earl Jones do a live theatre performance
Starting point is 01:04:52 of Driving Miss Daisy. What? In 2013. Where? I forgot. It was at the Comedy Theatre in Melbourne. They were touring? Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Really? My friend Jess got tickets. Get the Swiss out of here. It was amazing. So it was out of here. It was amazing. So it was good? Yeah. Who was who? Impossible to remember, James.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Wow, that's amazing. That's really. Who was in the original of that? Not them. No, I know that. But who was it? Oh, I'll look it up. It wasn't Helen Mirren, was it?
Starting point is 01:05:20 I don't know. I think it was Morgan Freeman. But I don't know. In the meantime, here's another email from Paul. Hey, James and Mason. My name's Paul. I'm from Ohio. Jessica Tandy. I'm a long-time fan. Jessica Tandy. There we go. And Morgan Freeman. I stumbled upon the Mr. Sunday Movies Easter egg video for the Winter
Starting point is 01:05:33 Soldier at age 14, and I was hooked. I'm now nearly 23, and I don't think I've missed a YouTube video of yours in the interim. I began regularly listening to the Weekly Planet podcast earlier this year when I got my first desk job out of college. I've worked my way through most of your back catalogue and now each new episode is always a highlight of my work week.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Just wanted to say thank you for your years of work to produce such great content. Damn, that guy went through school and everything and now he's a regular person. And we're still in this room. We're still stuck here. I'm older but it's the same. Never gets old to hear what you two have to say about movies and comics and TV shows. Huge thanks to both of you and all your fantastic team of editors
Starting point is 01:06:06 for so many years of entertainment and hopefully many years to come. Thank you, James. Thank you so much. That's really kind. I noticed, James, you've been doing some more videos. Yeah. Mr. Sunday videos. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Like doing some deep dive research. I've got a bunch. Is that because you've sent both your kids to reform school? Yes. Mason. I said, here's a gun. Get out there. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Go to reform school. It's not what reform school is. No, they're reforming everybody said, here's a gun. Get out there. Wow. Go to reform school. It's not what reform school is. No, they're reforming everybody. Oh, with the gun. With the threats of violence. Okay, great. Some old school threats of violence. Dirty Harry mentality.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah, nice. Well, no, because what happened was I had a child. He's now two, over the age of two. You had a child that became two children? Yeah. No, I already had a child previous to that. And then we had two years of lockdown and it just completely cooked my brain. So I couldn't do anything outside of like the stuff that I was already doing.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And now this year, and it's happened slowly. And also that holiday we had helped because I took a month off. I've been like, oh no, I like writing stuff and doing videos and getting the guys to edit it or whatever. So yeah, I've got a bunch of stuff lined up that I really want to talk about. Matt did a Lord of the Rings one recently on the Lord of the Rings sequel, which isn't doing super well, but people do like it.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Also, I say Aragorn wrong. I say Aragorn instead of Aragorn. There's a Hulk one that he also did. There's a bunch of other stuff there. That's right. That's in addition to Caravan of Garbage and stuff. Mason, I've told you even about some of the ones that I've got in the pipeline, and I think they could be very interesting. You telling me i've you say you say may so i've got so many
Starting point is 01:07:28 videos in my can is what you're saying i say james it's not this is aragon all over again stop saying it like that it's weird uh but yeah also my kids uh ones at school the other ones do it a couple of days at uh daycare so i can my brain is like cleared up a bit. So I've got some, I got some mental space to do things. So yeah. Thank you for noticing. You're very welcome. I appreciate that. Well, I did.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Cause I just look at the thumbnails and I'm like, I don't remember saying that. All right. Cool. Yeah. Do you have any more tweets there, James? I do. I haven't even read one yet. Oh, Neil Richards says, congratulations to the Weekly Planet at Mr. Sunday Movies
Starting point is 01:08:06 at Wikipedia Brown, hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. I have re-listened to episode 405 from last October. It was your we're definitely going to watch Snake Eyes anniversary. Uh-oh. That sneaks up on you, doesn't it? I was sure we would have done it by now. I guess we can squeeze it in next week. Squeeze it in next week.
Starting point is 01:08:22 We'll do Black Adam. Yep. If we've got a little spare time, and we will. Do some Snake Eyes. So if you haven't watched Snake Eyes yet, it's on Paramount Plus probably. Yep. Probably get it on Blu-ray. Yep.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Play that in your PS2. And you want to get in before that sequel comes out, which will be soon. Yeah. Two Snake Eyes. Two Snake Eyes. There's just two Snake Eyes at this time? Two Snake Eyes. Two Snake Eyes.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Two Snake Eyes. Two Snake Eyes. I've got another one because I've got another one. Here's an email from Daniel Love. Great name. Wow. Comic Book Club suggestion. Okay. Greetings from Edinburgh, Scotland. I'm sure if you take suggestions for the Comic Book Club, we absolutely do.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Because sometimes we're like, Captain Marvel? I don't know. You know what I mean. I thought I would send across one as I've been reading Something is Killing the Children. Oh, I read that. It's pretty great so far. I don't want to spoil anything, but it's about a small town where children start to disappear and the rumours around why and who is going to stop it.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I'd love to hear your thoughts about it. If you do read it, I hope you guys enjoy it. Thank you for your time on the podcast. I'm not up to the newest, newest stuff, but I read to the end of a couple of arcs. That's a good wish. I'm going to make a note of that because also, spookiest time of year.
Starting point is 01:09:23 You've got to do a Halloween one. A Halloween one, yeah. We will do that one. Also, speaking'm going to make a note of that because also, spookiest time of year. You've got to do a Halloween one. Do a Halloween one, yeah. We will do that one. Also, speaking of, we do a bunch of bonus podcasts at bigsandwich.co. Last week we did Superman Up in the Sky for Comic Book Club. We've got a Deadpool 2 commentary recently, and this week we look at, for the time crapshore,
Starting point is 01:09:38 the year 2012. Good stuff. Good stuff. Do you remember that, Mason? Do I remember the year 2012? Yeah. I mean, vaguely. I only just remember that Driving Miss Daisy thing.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Sure. That's a great point. Here's something from JSZ who says, hashtag with your planet pod, Marvel 4 July special. Remember we were like, what do we do if Marvel is doing one shot? Apparently Nova is a one-off thing maybe. That's exciting. Marvel 4 July special, the whole play from Hawkeye.
Starting point is 01:10:06 What do you think of that? Yes. But you hated that also. I would say the whole thing though. I think I would settle into it probably. Yeah, fair enough. And what about this one from Dan? Not a bad suggestion though.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I like that. They'd probably have to write the whole thing though, obviously. They've just got that one song, I assume. That's a good point. Yeah. Who do you get? You get Lin-Manuel Miranda? Yeah. Okay. You get Andrew Lloyd Webber? No a good point. Who do you get? You get Lin-Manuel Miranda? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:25 You get Andrew Lloyd Webber? No. You get a Webber barbecue because it's 5th of July. Yeah, and you get the guy who directed Cats. Yeah, nice. Terrific. This is from Dan who says, Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I'm making a Halloween-themed pub quiz. Should I include true or false? October is the spookiest time of the year because it's bloody tax time. No any good Halloween trivia? There's so many Halloween superstitions about how women find their husbands. Is that true? Is this? Is that a thing?
Starting point is 01:10:52 What? I didn't know that. Never heard about that. Where's this from? Yeah. I guess it could be the spookiest time of the year depending where you are in the world. That is true.
Starting point is 01:10:59 As we discovered, New Zealand or Australia or wherever else is October. Do you know any Halloween? James, here's 50 Halloween trivia questions and answers. Let's go. I'm only going to provide the questions. I've got time. Okay, great. Halloween isn't just for kids.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Yeah, we know. I'm out after this already, Mason. I said I don't want to do this anymore. Okay. Where does the term Jack O'Lantern come from? Jack, it's the guy, isn't it? I'm going to need more information than it's the guy, isn't it? From the Ichabod Crane, is it something like that?
Starting point is 01:11:29 Oh, you mean the headless horseman? Yeah, I don't know. Apparently it originates from an Irish folk tale about a cheap man named Stingy Jack who made a deal with the devil. Why did they name him Stingy Jack? His parents should have made him well-to-do but good to his friends and family, Jack. Right?
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah. She should be called don't ask for any favours from me and you won't be disappointed, Jack. And my head is not a pumpkin. My head's not a pumpkin. What else? What's another one? Oh, okay. These are good ones.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Well, there's one, what sort of mask does Michael Myers wear in the original Halloween? Yep, that's a good one. That's a fact you can put in there. But in any, these are good. What else? How many pounds of candy corn are produced each year? Get fucked.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Next. 35 million pounds. Is that even good? I've never had it. I don't know. Yeah. I hear people don't like it. Or they do. I each year? Get fucked. Next. 35 million pounds. Is that even good? I've never had it. I don't know. Yeah. I hear people don't like it. Or they do.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I don't know. Oh. Yeah. Okay. All right. Here we go. This is the last one. What vegetable is part of a tradition on the night before Halloween?
Starting point is 01:12:16 A different vegetable? Mm-hmm. Wow. Like an apple? No. Like a berry? Those are both fruit. But keep guessing.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Tomato? No, James. No, no, no. You're so close. You're so close. It's almost like you deliberately. What about a berry? Those are both fruit, but keep guessing. Tomato? No, James, no, no, no. You're so close. You're so close. It's almost like you deliberately. What about a smoothie? Yeah, it's a smoothie.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Yeah. From time immemorial. In fact, that ties into Stingy Jack. He wouldn't even buy any of his friends a smoothie. What? A berry blast for their birthday. That's why he's Stingy Jack. What is it?
Starting point is 01:12:41 So it's not pumpkin, I assume? Cabbage is often used in pranks on mischief night, sometimes referred to as cabbage night. People would sometimes leave stinky rotten cabbage in your neighbour's doors. That means you've got to rot up the cabbage. James, this is from Parade magazine. There's too much prep to that. Rotten cabbage.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Do you have to go to rottencabbage.com slash deliver? Yes. Get a rotten cabbage. That's right. You have to go to rotten.com. That's where you buy rotten cabbage now. Wow, there you go. That's right. You have to go to rotten.com. That's where you buy rotten cabbage now. Wow, there you go. That's right.
Starting point is 01:13:09 No more? That was 50. That was quick. Yeah, that was 50. We knocked them out real quick there. Yeah, cool, man. Yeah. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 01:13:15 What did Scottish women hang to see their future husbands on Halloween? Previous husbands. That's right. They murdered them. No, it says wet sheets in front of a fire. Why? Apparently you would see in the shadows, you'd see your future husband or something.
Starting point is 01:13:28 God. James, I don't know. I didn't invent Scottish traditions around Halloween and women, all right? Yeah, but you've never come out against it. I perfected them. But you not coming out against it. You may as well just be a supporter of this weird tradition. Which famous magician died on Halloween?
Starting point is 01:13:45 I don't know. Name the one famous magician. Siegfried or Roy. Yeah, Siegfried. Killed Roy. Killed Roy, that's right. It's Harry Houdini. Oh, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Yeah, sure. With the famous, somebody gut punched him. Stuck in a jack-o'-lantern. Yes. He was like, I can get in this jack-o'-lantern. That's right. Don't do it. Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Harry Houdini, you'll die. You'll be eaten by that alligator that loves pumpkins. He's on the shore. You can see him. He's coming. He's revving up. He's wearing a bib. He's got a knife and fork.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Come on, Harry Houdini. Come on, man. Get out. He did it anyway. But Harry Houdini died because he got punched in the stomach. Yeah, no, I did know that. Yeah, right. Well, maybe if he had a traditional Halloween smoothie the night before,
Starting point is 01:14:23 it would have buffered. Lined his stomach. Yeah. Exactly right. There you go. Anyway, that's the whole before, it would have buffered. Lion is starving. Exactly right. There you go. Anyway, that's the whole show, folks. Thank you so much for listening. You're welcome. We very much appreciate it, and it gives us something to do over a weekend.
Starting point is 01:14:32 It does, doesn't it? Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for telling your friends about it. Thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast, Platform of Choice. James, you got any reviews there? I do. This is from Lucid Hysteria, who says, five stars,
Starting point is 01:14:44 and this person just did it in app, which I cannot thank them enough for. Says, look, it's great. Look. It shouldn't be, but it is. You know what? This is great. I've been suddenly sucked in over the last few years and I love it. It could be, it could use a bit less profanity. I know, I know this is how everything is these days, but
Starting point is 01:14:59 it is marked clean in Apple Podcasts, so that's not an insane request. Fair. And that's mostly my fault. We could change the tag to explicit, I guess. But then we won't. People won't. I'm only doing a couple of F and Jeff and stuff. Only a few Fs and Jeffs.
Starting point is 01:15:11 I try to keep it to a minimum. But that's fair. I'm not going to change it, but it's fair, basically. But it's not nearly as vulgar as other podcasts, and it's just way, way better than most of the insufferable movie slash TV slash geek podcasts out there. It's always a good time. Never takes itself or anything too seriously.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Good stuff. Thank you so much. You heard it here first. Everybody else is insufferable. Yeah, get out of here. I nearly swore, but I didn't, Mason. Out of respect for that, yeah. Out of respect.
Starting point is 01:15:36 And this is from Make Yourself 83, also five stars, also just in app. You can do it in your app of choice, Mason. Cast of pods, best pod ever for not robots, but for humans in meat casings. Humans will find this cast of pods, best pod ever for not robots but for humans in meat casings. Humans will find this cast of pods amusing probably. Cast is not as insightful as robots. I am not a robot. I am a real boy.
Starting point is 01:15:53 But still a listenable pod of casts for meat encased processors. There you go. That is just a divine review from a real human man. Great. And certainly not some sort of Mithrigan robot. So, folks, thank you so much for getting in contact with us. If you want to, you can go to Weekly Planet Pod. Not Weekly Plod.
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Starting point is 01:17:02 Thank you to the Brute and the Bass and Rackham for all our musical themes. That's the whole show, James. Are you going to put that gun down? Absolutely not, Mason! Fair enough. Well, I'm picking this gun up then. Oh, no. I guess it's a classic stand-up until next week, at which point we're going to watch Black Adam. I should have bought two guns. Right?
Starting point is 01:17:17 Would that have changed the dynamic? Maybe not. No, but I'd just draw my second gun. Oh, you'd have a second gun, of course. Yeah, a second gun. I'd simply have a second gun. Stupid. And I'd simply outdraw you and shoot you, so easy. I can't believe I let you pull that gun back up. All right. I had every opportunity to shoot you, did the show, and I did it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:17:32 That's my fault, though, really. But two things. One, you'd have to do the rest of the episode by yourself. True. And then you'd have to, there'd be audio issues because of the gunshot. So, and you'd have to change the tag to there was a gunshot. There was a gunshot. That's right. All right, thanks, everybody. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. And you'd have to change the tag to there was a gunshot There was a gunshot Alright thanks everybody
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