The Weekly Planet - 487 Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part I
Episode Date: July 17, 2023HOLLYWOOD IS OVER. And by that we mean actors have joined writers in solidarity by also commiting to a strike bring almost all productions to a complete standstill. We break all that down extensively ...plus Disney winding back Star Wars/Marvel streaming shows, Hugh Jackman's Wolverine gets his yellow suit, more casting for Superman Legacy, The Flash fails again in a different way, trailers ahoy for Blue Beetle, Ashoka and Wonka (Jonka?) and of course the big release of the week, Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part 1. Thanks for listening!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:49 The Hollywood Actor's Strike28:22 Less Marvel & Star Wars30:28 Wolverine's Suit in Deadpool 333:25 More Superman: Legacy Casting39:08 How The Flash Can This Happen?44:27 Blue Beetle Trailer48:36 Ahsoka & Wonka Trailers55:53 Barbie vs Oppenheimer Latest59:06 Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part One Review (spoiler warning 01:24:12 to 01:39:46)01:39:46 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:45:30 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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We talk movies and comics and TV shows.
Hell, yeah.
My name is James.
Also known as Mr. Sundane.
With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason.
Great to be here.
That is hard to do.
Anyway, this week, big week for lots of stuff, isn't it?
That's right.
Big news.
Yep.
And there's a big movie of the week.
Big movie of the week.
Well, for now, there's a big movie of the week.
That might be slowing down in the, not near future, but a year from now, there might be
less movies.
We'll talk about it.
That's true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because there's a knock-on effect.
Yeah.
These things take time.
Because, of course, one of the things we're talking about this week quite extensively
is there's new Hollywood striking going on.
That's true.
An extra strike.
My God.
There hasn't been a double strike in-
Since 1960.
Yeah, there you go.
We're going to get into it.
There's also time codes if you want to jump to that.
Well, that's the first thing.
But then the next bit of news-
If you want to jump that, if you're-
If you want to jump this to that.
If you are new to the whole jumping ahead to a different time code situation
and you're a coward and you don't want to jump too far just in case you get lost,
like you're some sort of Star Trek adventurer type in deep space.
Yeah.
Or Interstellar.
Yeah, I like Interstellar.
Buzz Lightyear.
Buzz Lightyear.
Sad Buzz Lightyear.
Sad Buzz Lightyear.
If you just want to jump a little bit ahead, you can jump to that first piece of news.
Exactly.
Or you can jump to any of these pieces of news you're about to say.
Exactly.
Like Bob Iger talking about pumping the brakes on some Disney properties, Mason.
And pumping the brakes on paying people as well.
Exactly.
He's like, I don't like this.
I don't like other people getting paid a lot of money.
Now, the big news of the week for a time was Hugh Jackman in costume as Wolverine.
So we'll talk about that.
Some more Superman lives casting.
We're going to talk about how the Flash is coming.
How the Flash did this happen?
I mean, you can own the Flash.
Can we call the segment How the Flash Did This Happen?
Let me write that down.
All right.
How the Flash Can This Happen?
How the Flash Can This Happen?
Yep, that's good.
About how you can own it on home media with a few extra bonuses, Mason,
which you're going to love. Trailers ahoy for Blue Beetle, Ahs good, about how you can own it on home media with a few extra bonuses, Mason, which you're going to love.
Trailers ahoy for Blue Beetle, Ahsoka, and Wonka.
The Barbie Oppenheimer race is going to be the biggest one, Mason.
I think it's probably going to be a Barbie.
Probably.
And then Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1.
What are we reckoning about it?
We'll tell you.
That's right.
In that section of the show.
Now, Mason, there's a historic SAG AFTRA Actors Strike happening
in addition to the Writers Strike,
Mason. That's a heck of a sentence to say,
let me tell you. Exactly. That's a heck of a sentence
to hear.
Now major productions around the world
are impacted. That's right. There's a few that are
able to go ahead because they skirt the laws
of this because they're starring
people who aren't part of this, because they're starring people who
aren't part of this union because they're from other countries.
Like, for example, the new Game of Thrones show, that's going ahead, even though the
showrunners have already walked off set like months ago.
But they're going ahead.
They've got the scripts and they're going ahead.
Just the surreal enthusiastic actors are just like, come on, put me in, coach.
Yeah.
I can do this.
Yeah.
There are a whole bunch of restrictions on what people can and cannot do.
I don't know if you saw this tweet from Variety.
I did.
Variety magazine.
Yeah.
During the strike, SAG-AFTRA members cannot do the following.
Tours, personal appearances, interviews, conventions, fan expos, festivals for your consideration.
None of these affect me, Mason.
That's right.
And none of them will.
Panels, premieres, screenings, award shows, junkets,
podcast appearances.
Oh, no.
Social media and studio showcases.
David Harbour was going to be in Melbourne in the next month or so
to do a con, Metro.
He was going to do a big con on us.
He was going to do a big con, but I had a bunch of other actors,
but I'm like, oh, David Harbour, maybe I'd like to, you know,
maybe he's not coming now, is he?
Nope.
And then it goes on.
There's a second tweet.
Yeah.
One of these is for one person in particular, and you can tell.
You can't do principle on-camera work, such as acting, singing,
dancing, performing stunts, piloting on-camera aircraft,
puppeteering, performance capture or motion capture work, and et cetera.
So that's Andy Serkis and Tom Cruise together.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
They cannot work on their next movie together.
Gollum is not allowed to be on the top of an old-timey biplane
while it does stunts over the bloody county fair.
Exactly.
That's right.
And they're both in an elevator together
and they hear this and they're like, ah, dang it.
Absolutely.
So from now, pretty much every production has shut down.
Some of them include Gladiator 2, Mortal Kombat 2, Deadpool 3, Venom 3.
These are big sequels, Mason.
These are big sequels.
And threequels.
Yeah.
Movies that are upcoming,
including Barbie, Oppenheimer,
TMNT, whatever the next one is,
The Haunted Mansion, Blue Beetle, The Meg 2,
Kraven, these cannot be promoted
by any of the actors in them. That's true.
That's why they, it seems
as if that's why they were cramming so much
Mission Impossible and Barbie and Oppenheimer
in. They knew this was coming.
There was a, I think it was an early screening of Oppenheimer
and they moved it to an hour early.
Yeah.
And then apparently like Cillian Murphy and Emily Blunt
and everybody else who had just left, they're just like,
oh, time to go.
And this movie's bad.
Yeah, that's right.
And oh, my God, Cillian Murphy.
Like I don't know anything about the man.
But that's why I'm like, because he's a, you know,
he doesn't, he's not a big for the publicity.
I could just imagine being like, oh, thank God.
Oh, thank God.
I'm the star of this movie and I don't want to talk about it.
Now we should specify also, you know how we mentioned
some things like podcast appearances and social media
and that, that is only in relation to promotion
or publicity services. So they can just go on social media and that, that is only in relation to promotion or publicity services.
So they can just go on social media or a podcast or whatever,
but they can't go on and say, like, I'm in this new movie
and I love it.
Okay.
They can't do any of that.
We don't have to hear about it, thank God.
I'm Cillian Murphy and I'm in this movie and I'm loving it.
He's loving it, by the way.
Yeah, that's right.
Now, Variety did an interview with Bob Iger
and he was actually very disturbed about all of this.
He was very disturbed.
If you don't know, Bob Iger is the current head of Disney
and will be for the next couple of years.
He came back because it was handed over to a different Bob
who people perceived to be the builder.
And it's said that he did a shonky job on it, Mason.
That's right.
A shonky build.
That's right. Andky build that's right
and kind of ran it into the ground a little bit and there was too much emphasis on certain things
and not enough on others and the parks took a dip and whatever so bob eiger came back yeah and gave
other bob the the boot and but in regards to these two strikes he says it's very disturbing to me
he's your dad isn't he no he's not we've done that as a bit that's never really worked i'll
be honest with you it's never really worked but no my dad is a retired civil engineer yeah
he's unrelated but he's a big fan of bob bob eiger yeah loves him yeah because he when you're
practically brothers yeah he says he's like my second dad because he your your like your origin
is like the ending of revenge of the sith where your dad hands you to Bob Iger. Is that correct? Sure, it absolutely is.
Yeah.
Yep.
Good.
So he said,
we've talked about disruptive forces on this business
and all the challenges we're facing,
the recovery from COVID, which is ongoing.
It's not completely back.
This is the worst time in the world to add to that disruption.
That's right.
Worst time to do it, baby.
Woo!
Exactly, which makes it the best time to do it.
Now, let's talk about some specifics.
Oh, this actor's alleged to have done a bunch of horrible stuff.
Now a bunch of other people have come out and alleged he's done horrible stuff.
Convenient timing.
Yeah.
Oh, they're doing it just as his movie's coming out.
Yeah.
That's how these things work.
That's how you do it.
That's how you get the big promo, man.
Yeah, that's right.
That's what you do.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
But, yeah, that's bad slash good timing.
Exactly.
And as has been pointed out, I believe the average writer's salary,
somebody worked it out, the average writer's salary in Hollywood
is just under $70,000.
Yep.
It's a very nice $69,000.
And Bob, I guess.
That's average, by the way.
Yeah.
So obviously that is a big range.
So there's people earning hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions for big movie scripts or whatever,
and there's people earning $100 a day or whatever.
But Bob Iger's salary, if you average that out, is $74,000 a day.
Yep.
Let's talk about that.
So Bob Chapek, who was the head of Disney before Bob Iger, he made $32 million in 2021.
Bob Backish, who's just got to be a Bob, I guess. He was,
he is head of Paramount Global. He made 32 million in 2022. David Zaslav behind Warner
Brothers Discovery, who's currently gutting it to sell, made $39 million in 2022. So this is what,
this is the kind of salaries that we're talking about here. And look, I think if they want to
earn all of that money, I don't care. Like it doesn't matter to me if they earn that much money but oftentimes
the people who earn these kinds of money they're not there's no creative input in that and the
people who are actually making these things they're not actually being compensated in any real way
and let's talk about that because this is via deadline this was a quote that happened just
before the the actors strike joined the writers strike the big one yeah this is because this is via Deadline. This was a quote that happened just before the actor's strike joined the writer's strike.
This is the big one. Yeah. This is
in a way, I would say, a tactical error
on behalf of the
bigwigs. I feel like also this was
clearly like, I mean, Deadline also
is owned by a billionaire and put
out some tweets that were like Matt Damon
seemed like he was in support of
them going back to work. It seems like
a video of Matt Damon saying people should be going back to work that cuts off suddenly.
Yeah, weird.
Mid-sentence. That's weird.
Anyway, an anonymous studio executive told Deadline,
The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses.
Acknowledging this cold as ice approach, several other sources reiterated the statement.
One insider called it a cruel but necessary evil.
So this is what we're talking about here, right?
Lizards.
Yeah, absolute fucking ghouls.
And look, I want to get into like the common criticisms
that people might have towards writers and like,
because, you know, we get comments and you see them online about like.
They're too woke.
Et cetera.
Yeah, we're going to talk about all of that.
No, I did it.
I covered all the main points just then, so.
Yeah, but the thing is, none of these companies No, I did it. I covered all the main complaints just then.
Yeah.
But the thing is, none of these companies are strapped for cash.
Like, at all.
Except maybe for Warner Brothers.
Well, even then, right?
They can come up with the money.
Absolutely, they can.
Well, they're strapped for cash once they've paid their executives tens of millions of dollars.
Yeah, exactly.
But even then, not really.
No, that's true.
So the studios and streamers, what they
thought was going to happen, that the financially strapped
writers would go to the WGA leadership
and demand they restart talks before
what could be a very cold Christmas.
Hmm. Some Scrooge McDuck
shit, mate. So here's what the actors
want. I think you're thinking of the other Scrooge.
What? Scrooge from A Christmas.
No, they're both awful. Oh, okay, right.
Wow. Wow. I didn't misspeak. I stand by that a Christmas. No, they're both awful. Oh, okay, right. Wow. Yeah. Wow.
I didn't misspeak.
I stand by that.
Wow.
So the actors apparently were coming to the table at one point.
Like this was, they were looking to avoid this.
And what they're, it's a couple of things that they want,
and this is not unreasonable.
They want residuals from streaming services.
Now we've talked about this before.
So if you do like a proper cable show,
like say you're on Friends or something big in the 90s or even something that's pre-streaming,
right? Your residual checks are in the thousands, sometimes tens of thousands if you are like a
bigger name or you had a significant role. But even if you had like, if you had one line
in an episode of Cheers 35 years ago, every time that show airs on cable
or a network TV, you get a check.
And it might be a small amount, but it's forever.
Yeah, unless they do like creative accounting on you,
how David Prowse, who played Darth Vader, never got any money
for Return of the Jedi because it never made any money somehow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The only person on Twitter who should have the blue check
that lets them do long tweets is John Cusack because he's just out there being like, yeah,
I was in the movie with that boom box and they said I'd get points,
net points off the whatever.
Yeah.
And it turns out that movie's never made a profit.
Whoa, really?
Yeah, it turns out.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
But now with streaming services,
they keep all their numbers a secret in terms of what's being streaming
unless they want to come out and say like Red Notice is the biggest movie
that anybody's ever made.
Yeah.
And we can attest to that because we're currently watching it again right
now as we're talking. That's right. That's why if we seem distracted, it's because we're both
watching Red Notice. I'm just so tired of doing this podcast while watching Red Notice. We're
going to knock this out of the way and then I'm going to go put my full attention on Red Notice
again. Exactly. So they keep those numbers close to their chest because if they came out and said,
well, this show got this amount of viewers, then you've got a definitive number that you could put
on an actor or a writer or anybody who participates in that show, which they could then pay them
for.
You could be like, well, the value you bring to this is X and we can pay you that.
But they don't want to reveal that information because then you have to pay somebody what
they're worth.
So they're getting like fractions on a dollar for things that they did.
Apparently, I only learned this this week. Well, not apparently. what they're worth. So they're getting like fractions on a dollar for things that they did. Apparently I learned,
I only learned this this week. Well,
not apparently I did learn this this week,
but apparently one of Netflix's executives during a toast some years ago,
uh,
revealed that just,
we're just doing a toast showing off revealed that orange is the new black,
which is one of their most successful,
like one of their early successes at the time was doing better than game of
thrones viewing wise.
And I think the actors on that show up are being paid about 15 grand an episode.
Exactly.
Whereas the actors on Game of Thrones were being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars
an episode, a million dollars an episode, whatever it was.
And some of them got to be in the New Mutants.
Yeah.
And that's incredible.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, we know recently that the guy who created Squid Game,
a property which made $900 million for Netflix,
and is a show that literally every person on earth,
if they haven't seen it, they know what it is.
And it's about poor people being exploited by rich people.
It's not about what it's about, Mason.
But that is what it's about.
Yeah, next to nothing for that property,
which exploded, was the biggest show in the world for like
a year.
Yeah.
No, for a streaming show, that was longer than you'd think.
No, that's true, yeah.
The other thing is, one of the proposals that the studios were doing was that if you are
a background extra, you would come in for a day's work, you would get paid for a day's
work, they would then scan your likeness and then own the rights to you to put in the
background of any scene in perpetuity yeah forever for nothing and apparently that's already happening
oh yeah that's happened to people on various shows uh uh yeah they're people are just like
people just milling around being background extras i mean this is anecdotal but i i sort
of on twitter a bunch and producers come up to him and go, like a bunch of them go,
hey, can you just come into the trailer for a second?
And then they'd scan him and then get the next person.
And, yeah, that's what's happening.
And apparently it's in some people's contracts, I guess.
Absolutely.
Or it's not, and they're just like, we'll see how this goes.
What, are they going to come after us?
Yeah, yeah.
Eventually, yes.
Now, we've talked about this before, but what the writers want
is a pay increase of 49%, and this is so that they make decent money to live on.
This could also include things like pensions and healthcare, plus residuals, which we talked
about.
Often also, streaming services are deleting content, so any residuals that they have to
pay, which is very little, they don't have to pay if they delete it.
We've seen that a lot recently.
Remember Rise of the Pink Ladies, a show that just came out
and got a bunch of Emmy nominations?
It's gone, right?
I don't remember it.
No, well, it's gone.
It is gone from my memory, James.
It is gone as if it never existed.
I'll never know how that car gained the ability to fly.
Absolutely.
I'll never know how all those high school teens got so old and greasy.
I think they just got kept down.
Oh, yeah.
So they all stayed there until they were 40.
Yeah, that's probably it.
The other thing they wanted to crack down on was studios do mini rooms where they bring
in a handful of writers and they map out a series before it's greenlit and then are not
compensated for the length of the series.
It's basically come in, write the show for us.
Thank you very much.
We'll take it from here.
We'll just use all of your ideas.
The other thing is shorter exclusivity.
Now,
that was fine when they'd have like 22 episodes of a show a year, if you did like a sitcom or a
law and order or whatever. But now they're doing eight to 10, which means basically you write those
episodes, you get paid less. And also you basically sit around and can't work on anything else until
that exclusivity expires and you can move on. And that also means that you need multiple jobs a year
as opposed to doing the one. Yeah. And a lot of people are like, well, actually-
If you can get them. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, a lot of people are like,
well, the average is 70,000. That's pretty good. It is absolutely decent money.
Absolutely it is. But at the same time, a lot of writers
will do one job and then they don't get another job for a year or two years or something.
Also, let's be real. If you're not getting health insurance, if you are living in an expensive city, which
often you'd have to be to work on something like that, you know what I mean?
You have to get to and from work.
You don't have any of these social safety nets.
That is not enough money to live comfortably on, like to live above the poverty line.
I know it sounds like a lot of money and it is depending where you are, but that is a
ludicrous amount of money.
Also considering how much money these shows make
and who's getting the actual money.
They also want safeguards around AI because they're talking
about how AI could write shows, which also at this point
in time is not actually possible.
What they actually are planning on doing is get AI
to map out something and then actual writers have to come in
and they get paid basically to punch up scripts that are bad.
Yeah, that are bad.
That are dreck.
Yeah, absolute junk.
That are slop.
Let me ask you this question, James, just as an aside.
Do you think that a show like A Law and Order or maybe some sort of procedural show, I don't
personally think anything has gone to air that's been AI written, but I believe that somebody at the very least has submitted a script
and had it approved.
100%.
That is AI generated.
They just put in every previous law and order script or whatever it was,
Grey's Anatomy, if that show is still going,
and they just popped one out and went, good, and they went, sure.
Yeah, why not?
Well, I mean, we're seeing it in articles online,
and it's very obvious now.
Yeah, yeah.
But in a few years it might not be. That's true. Yeah, what I'm talking about is seeing it in articles online, and it's very obvious now. Yeah, yeah. But in a few years, it might not be.
That's true.
Yeah, what I'm talking about is people can't afford food, rent.
There are people who have been nominated for award shows who can't afford to go to those
award shows.
We're talking about basic human needs, which should extend across all industries.
This isn't something that should only exist for the elites in Hollywood or whatever.
Podcasters and such.
Exactly, yeah. This is something that should only exist for like the elites in Hollywood or whatever. Podcasters and such. Exactly, yeah.
This is something that should be extended.
Real men, construction workers, podcasters, plumbers, you know.
Exactly.
These are basic human needs which should extend into all sectors
because I've seen like a criticism, which I think is totally valid
when people are like, well, I don't get paid very much for what I do.
How come they're getting paid that much?
And you're right because you should be getting paid more
like a livable wage for what you're doing.
But that's not related to this.
You not getting money for your job isn't related to these people
not getting money for their job.
These are different psychos running this game, right?
That is true, actually, yeah.
Or the same psycho could be.
We're all fighting billionaires.
We're going to kill the billionaires. We're going to kill the billionaires.
We're going to kill some billionaires.
We're going to kill them.
Do you want to hear a crazy number? Yes.
The total money that the WGA
wants, so the Writers Guild
want, for what they are
proposing, for everybody
is $420 million.
Oh, that is a crazy number.
It's not though. That's the weed number.
When you consider Indiana Jones cost $300 to $400 million,
and that's one blockbuster for one thing, right?
For one week, then we're going to forget about it.
Yeah, and I'm not even saying, like, make one less movie
because it's not just one or two movies coming out a year.
It's multiple movies it's
merchandise it's theme parks it's all of the it's tax benefits which all these companies are getting
the money is there 420 million dollars is fucking nothing to these people but i paid 420 million
dollars went up to the valley movies i got a popcorn and a large coke you're not wrong bro i'm
not wrong at all i am not wrong at all. It is the micro's macro.
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think the idea that these CEOs think they can ride this out,
I'm hoping that that's laughable.
I'm hoping it's the opposite because a lot of executives live
and die on like quarterly earnings.
Yeah.
And at a certain point, they're going to have to go to their bosses
and go. Or shareholders. Yeah, yeah. And they say, hey, they're going to have to go to their bosses and go.
Or shareholders.
Yeah, yeah.
And they say, hey, what's going on with these actors, whatever.
What's new in the pipeline this month?
And they have to go, nothing.
Yeah.
And then they're out.
Exactly.
There's only so many times they can say, we've got things ready in the can.
And they could also do that when it was just the writers because you could say, well, we
had all these scripts in development and we've got a bunch of them that we've banked and we can move forward on things, which we've seen.
All of these properties that we mentioned that were stalled, they were still moving forward.
That's true.
And now they can't.
And this is going to dry up very quickly.
And the thing is, there is actually like a strike fund for members who are falling on hard times where money is being raised by those who
are really affected by this and are having trouble paying rent and medical bills and all that it's
called entertainment community fund.org and i'm not even suggesting that people you know you can
donate to that if you want to but also understand that people have their own struggles but what my
point is that they can i believe and i hope can outlast yeah this yeah. I'm sort of hoping that a lot of people will see this
and the longer the drags out go, maybe I should go on strike.
Yeah, maybe.
You know, if these people can go on strike.
Exactly.
Maybe I can go on strike in my job.
I mean, we see this like the UPSs, you know, there's strike action,
you know, they're talking in regards to that.
But I think what's interesting about this is that it's so public
and entertainment is in our
homes where it's like remember get out of my home yeah but like the john deere strike that happened
which was successful that doesn't affect like that doesn't come into your house that's true
unless you get these deers out of my house so i i like the optics that you can get on this
anyways i just want to answer some questions that the people have either thrown our way or I've just seen in general.
Now, this isn't necessarily a dig at anybody asking this question unless you want it to be.
Unless we say shut up.
Unless you tell you what.
We'll see if James asks the question in a whiny voice.
Yeah, here we go.
Because then we are having a dig.
If we start with er, we are taking a dig.
No, one of the complaints I've seen is, well, look, I don't even like this stuff that comes out of hollywood so who cares but here's the thing right do you like banks do you like
lining up at the post office do you like getting on a grubby train for work because people in all
of the yeah i do too the people who work in all the industries even the industries that you fucking
hate dealing with they are also entitled to a livable wage just because this is an entertainment
industry there is this
idea that, oh, this should be, you love it. You should do it for free. Nothing should be done for
free when you're working for somebody. That's true. That's a fucking lie that people tell you
to get you to do shit for free. You've mentioned this one when people say, well, you know, if they
give into some of these demands and I don't think it'll be all of them. I think it'll be some,
hopefully, you know, won't they just want further demands? Like you've these demands, and I don't think it'll be all of them. I think it'll be some, hopefully.
You know, won't they just want further demands?
Like, you've talked about that.
I don't know.
Do you want to feel that way again? Well, I mean, you know, people are like,
oh, the union movement was good back in the day.
Union movement was good back in the day,
but we don't need it anymore.
And it's like, well, if you stop, if the unions go away,
they roll back everything, don't they?
Exactly.
And you see that, like, anti-union busting
has been absolutely fucking rife, like, the world over. And you see that, like, anti-union busting has been absolutely fucking rife,
like, the world over.
And you look at wages in relation to inflation,
look at it in relation to, you know,
I'm talking like going to the supermarket,
look at the cost of things now compared to what it used to be,
look at what it costs to buy a house.
Like, these things are not in line anymore.
It's got absolutely insane.
And the thing is about these negotiations,
this shouldn't be a one-time thing.
Like, the industry and all industries are constantly evolving. Like the idea of AI and streaming services, these things like five years ago, it wasn't, well, maybe not so much streaming
service, but you know, these things weren't at the forefront. These things need to be ongoing.
That's true. These things constantly need to be assessed.
Because the tech keeps evolving. Exactly.
Exactly. And that's everywhere. I mentioned the thing about, you know, it's a privilege to work on.
This is another question I might answer before.
It's a privilege to work in like an entertainment industry and do something like that.
And I think just because you, yeah, just because you love something or you like writing on
Star Trek or whatever, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't get paid for it.
Like that's insanity.
Yeah.
Just because you shouldn't only get paid if you hate your job is my point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um,
you mentioned this up top.
Everything is woke.
I don't even think that's true.
And also everything.
I actually was making a joke.
Yeah,
I know.
I know.
But I mean,
I mean the biggest movie of last year or one of,
uh,
was,
was Top Gun,
right?
Yeah.
Look,
there is messaging in that movie.
They also tried to remove a flag from Maverick's jacket to release it in
China. And some people would consider that one. Maverick's jacket to release it in China.
And some people would consider that one.
His flag that said, I hate China.
Exactly.
And the thing is, like, everything that gets greenlit
is only at the behest of the studio.
And it's only greenlit because they look logistically,
where can we make money?
Where are the markets which we can get this into?
That is why anything is greenlit.
That's true.
There's no pressure.
These people don't succumb to light pressure.
Like, oh, we want to see a gay couple hold hands,
and then they put it in the background of a Star Wars movie.
They can easily remove.
Fucking, I just don't believe that.
Anything woke in a movie is because they feel like that will get an extra
bum on a scene.
They're exploiting that market sector, baby.
That's all it is.
And we've talked about before that if you value that representation,
sometimes they get creative people to make a property.
And they believe it.
And they believe it, and that's great.
But they are allowed to do that.
They're not going in and screaming a Bob Iger to put it in.
Because he'll get them killed, basically.
And the last thing is,
as I mentioned before, people mentioned
that's more than I get paid. And look,
again, that's awful.
That's bad.
Again, that doesn't mean if you
don't get paid as much as somebody else,
you are also being taken advantage of.
And I'm sorry that that is happening.
It's just a different guy in a suit.
It's a different guy in a suit or it could be the same guy.
It could be the same guy.
It could genuinely be the same guy.
Ultimately, when you go back, it's probably everything's owned by Unilever.
Exactly.
Who are not a sponsor of us.
No, this week they are.
Okay.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I'm quickly Googling Unilever's biggest competitor.
Yeah.
Anyways, I am.
Gorillas.
Who have been killed by palm oil
anyways i'm sorry to get into all of that uh no i'm not that's not true i'm sorry it went so long
there you go i can see that yeah but i just think like i don't know man it's think people are
hurting like the world over yeah i mean, I don't know, man.
It's fucked.
And all these billionaires are going to die with $100 billion in their bank account.
Yep, exactly.
You can get it from them.
Or a disgruntled Amazon employee will shoot them in the head
when they emerge from their Amazon bunker in the future.
Exactly.
It'll just be a ring of disgruntled.
They're going to repurpose one of those Amazon delivery drones
and drop a landmine into their bunker.
That's what's going to happen.
But they can change it.
I mean, that's the thing.
They've got the power to change this.
There is also this idea that, look, if, and I love that it's kind of flipped
this time where it's like, why don't these people just get back to work?
Why don't they get paid properly?
Great point.
Like, this isn't like one of them flicks a switch.
Like, this can be solved by more than one party.
That's true.
Let's have a party, Mason.
Oh, my God.
Let's have a party.
And talk about Bob Iger.
Yeah, great.
He spoke to CNBC this week and he said,
Disney are trying to save $5 billion.
By the way, guys, we're talking about fun trailers later.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
People can skip.
They probably would have all left.
They may have left.
I just killed them. They're writing an email. Yeah. some one person is writing an email and i'll need to be clear i'm gonna delete it i'm gonna read it i'm just gonna delete it excuse me i'm in college i'm
first year in college and i have some stuff to say you know i've done an economics that's great
well we've all done an economics also like student like student debt is fucked. What are we even talking about?
Come on.
That's a ridiculous system.
Yeah.
Let's be realistic.
You saddle someone with a debt which they can't default on.
They sign it when they're 17.
What the fuck is happening?
Come on.
Anyways, Marvel.
Anyway, Bob Iger said that.
Guys, we said Marvel, so everything's fine.
Yeah, we're back into it.
They're going to pump the brakes on Marvel and Star Wars series.
He said Marvel is a great example of that.
That's so true.
It had not been in the television business at any significant level.
Disagree, but all right.
Not only did they increase their movie output,
but they ended up making a number of TV series, said Iger.
And frankly, it diluted focus and attention.
I don't disagree.
I also think they turned to that during lockdown
and their streaming service was kicking off.
That's true.
So that's why they did it.
But now they're like, oh, now people aren't seeing our movies
because we put them on streaming three weeks after or whatever.
That's exactly right, yeah.
So now they're like pulled back on that.
Also, there is too much Marvel stuff, quite frankly.
Whoa.
You've been watching Secret Invasion?
Nope.
No, I have, but I'm an episode behind.
Whoa, it's going to blow your mind.
I don't think it is. No, I have, but I'm an episode behind. Whoa, it's going to blow your mind.
I don't think it is.
Yeah.
I saw two things.
One, I saw a tweet.
Someone said, boy, this Secret Invasion revelation would have been really exciting seven years ago.
And Don Cheadle liked the tweet.
And the second thing, Iman Valani, who plays Ms. Marvel,
is apparently writing a Ms. Marvel comic book coming up.
There was a photo of her and a friend of hers, I think, perhaps,
or maybe a comic writer, I'm not sure.
Who was it, Mason?
I don't know who it was, and I'm not going to look it up.
They're in a comic book shop,
and they're holding the Death of Ms. Marvel comic book,
and they're like, brr.
And also, I think Marvel have already revealed the new comic book
that Ms. Marvel is going to be in, despite the fact that she's dead.
Is it Ms. Marvel is alive again?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
She's back.
Yeah, surprise, idiots, it's called.
You didn't think we'd do it, but she's back.
She's back.
Let's do some lighter news now, Mason.
It's time for lighter news.
Before it's shut down, Deadpool 3.
We're going to talk about all the lighters.
Zippo, Bic.
Just two sticks.
Yep.
Two sticks.
What about those metal sticks in your camping?
You're clanking them.
Clanking them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What about some matches?
It's not a lighter, though, is it?
That's a great point.
You don't think they count?
No.
All right.
Get rid of your matches, folks.
Throw them in the bin.
Throw them in the bin.
Exactly.
Throw them in a fire.
So Deadpool 3.
Yes.
We got the reveal earlier this week of Hugh Jackman in the classic. Throw him in the bin. Exactly. Throw him in a fire. So Deadpool 3. Yes.
We got the reveal earlier this week of Hugh Jackman in the classic yellow Wolverine costume.
At last.
What do you think?
Looks pretty fun.
It looks like the costume.
It does.
Some people have said less sleeves maybe.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because traditionally he's got the big gun.
And also Hugh Jackman, he's got those guns.
So why wouldn't he?
He's got them guns, yeah.
And they're fighting on set.
I don't know if you've seen some of those photos happening.
I have seen.
They're doing some big wire work.
And there's also a big 20th Century Fox logo buried in the dirt.
I love that.
One, because they're finally building big sets.
It's not green screen, which is nice.
I bet some of it is.
I bet a lot of it is, yeah.
Maybe this is the one bit of set they've actually built.
Yeah.
But again, so a lot of this seems to be,
if we're divining the plot from this sort of stuff
and the cameos we've shown, we've heard are on the way.
Yeah.
This is a lot of, you see,
is Deadpool diving into the Fox back catalogue of bad?
To kill everyone?
Yeah, maybe Deadpool kills the Fox with Marvel Universe.
Or saves, maybe he saves it.
Maybe.
Maybe he ends up in a, if I had to guess, I would say
maybe he ends up in some sort of reality that's on the verge of being destroyed
and it's got all those remnants of characters in it or something like that. Well, that's cool.
That's pretty cool. Yeah. We won't get into more cameos. I saw some online
this week, but yeah, there are cameos. Oh, there are cameos. Galore happening.
That's right. If you like a cameo. If you love when you're watching a movie and then a bunch of people go,
I'm here and you recognize me, you're going to love this movie.
That's often good because sometimes I don't recognize them.
Yeah.
So it's nice to have, you know, that.
That happened to me with, what was I watching?
It was Anna Wintour.
And I'm like, I don't know who that is, I think.
And I'm like, I think it was in the Sex and the City episode.
And it felt, and I know I was watching it with my wife, Claire,
who you love.
But not like, just like platonically, yeah?
And I'm like, oh, this is what a normal person feels like watching
any of the movies that I watch.
Right.
Where they're like, it's Anson Mount from the Inhumans TV series?
Right.
All right then, I guess.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's Anna Wintour from the Vogue Cinematic Universe.
God, she's so dastardly.
So dastardly.
So, yeah, Deadpool 3 is currently shut down.
That was one of the few productions that went ahead,
despite Ryan Reynolds not being able to improv on set, apparently,
because the writers strike and all of that.
But now that is shut down.
That's right.
Ba-bam.
Stop doing it.
I have.
It's okay.
Stop it as much as you can.
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about Superman Lives casting though?
Yes.
All right.
Big news.
And I'm just going to see if I can stop the dogs from barking.
I love it.
Who is it?
Who is it?
Oh, it's Ollie.
He's here. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha? Who is it? Oh, it's Ollie! He's here!
You're outside now, you're inside. I don't know if you noticed
Mason, but Ollie made an appearance in our latest
Caravan of Garbage. I did see that.
Saved of the day. The real hero of cinema, Mason.
That's so true.
What were we talking about? Superman lipscasting.
So this movie is now two years away.
Well, plus strike time. Plus strike, etc. And we've got some casting this casting. Oh, yeah. So this movie is now two years away. Well, plus strike time.
Plus strike, et cetera.
And we've got some casting this week.
All right, here we go.
Isabella Mesed.
Now she's going to be Hawk Woman.
Hawk Woman, that's right.
And we saw Hawk Man recently.
That's true, we did.
Hawk Girl, it says.
I don't know.
It could be Hawk Woman.
I don't know.
E.D. Gathegi is Mr. Terrific.
Now people remember him as Darwin the Mutant who cannot die
and is the only one who dies in X-Men First Class.
Yeah, he shouldn't have told everybody he wasn't going to die.
That's right.
Big mistake.
Hey, my powers, I will never die.
We should give a quick breakdown of these.
Hawkgirl is from another planet of hawk people.
Or she's a reincarnated magic person.
Yep, sure.
So one of those.
And her wings are either made of nth metal and technologically based
or magic based or she's got real wings.
Yeah, pick your poison.
No, we won't.
What were they in the last movie?
Dunno.
What were they in Black Adam?
Dunno.
That's a great question.
What were they?
Was it a suit?
Did he put on a suit?
I think he did, yeah.
Let's watch that movie right now.
Okay.
After Red Notice.
Same time as Red Notice?
Same time. And then after that we'll cleanse the palate with a little. After Red Notice. Same time as Red Notice?
Same time.
And then after that, we'll cleanse the palate with a little bit of Red Notice.
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be hard to watch the sequel to Red Notice when I'm still watching original Red Notice.
Yep.
I don't know how I'm going to do it.
I don't think it's going to be hard for me at all.
We just built differently.
I'm a real redhead, you know?
Yeah, it's true.
Like the matches.
That's true.
Is that a local reference?
Doesn't matter.
Mason?
Mr. Terrific.
It's a callback, certainly.
Yeah, yeah.
Did a lighter talk earlier.
Yeah, but like redhead, as in like the types of matches.
I think that's Australian.
Is that Australian?
That's Australian, yeah.
Okay, great.
So, Mr. Terrific, smart man.
Anything else?
Yeah.
Technologically sound.
Yes.
Well, one of the world's smartest men.
Cool jacket.
Very cool jacket.
Has fair play down the sides.
Yeah, man.
Invisible to technology.
Uh-huh.
But not like sonar or some stuff, I think.
I don't know.
There's some things that he's not, yeah.
But his iconic weaponry is the T-Sphere,
which is like his little drones that follow him around
and they can shoot lasers and so forth.
Absolutely.
Pretty cool stuff.
He's had appearances in the CW universe.
Oh, okay.
In the various animated universes, I think.
Big Brain.
Big Brain.
Yeah.
I think he's like the third smartest person in the DC universe.
I guess behind Batman and Lex Luthor.
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Who knows?
I think he should be smarter, though.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I think he should go back to school.
Just put it out a couple of years. Yeah, if you wouldn't mind. Who knows? I think he should be smarter, though. Yeah? Yeah. I think he should go back to school. Just put it in another couple of years.
Yeah, if you wouldn't mind.
What area?
Yeah, maybe do some brain training on Nintendo 3DS.
That's a great idea.
Yeah.
Get your stylus ready, Mr. Terrific.
Yeah, do some Sudoku, you know?
Yeah, that's right.
Really stretch that brain out.
Anthony Carrigan.
Oh, that's, he's from, he's Hank from Barry, yeah.
That's right. He plays Metamorpho. Oh, that's – he's from – Barry. Hank from Barry, yeah. That's right.
He plays Metamorpho.
Oh, the element man.
Yeah.
Some kind of – does he touch a thing or can he just do it?
I can't remember.
No, that's the absorbing man.
Metamorpho can turn – oh, I mean, they may have changed it
since the last time I read a Metamorpho story.
Yeah.
But he can transform partly or fully into, like,
any element that's within the human body.
Oh, within the human body.
Yes.
So what if he puts something in his body?
I don't think that would work.
Can he transform it to that?
No.
Like a big rubber.
Go on.
Egg?
A big rubber egg.
I don't think so, no.
Okay.
No.
It is ear.
I don't think so, no.
Okay, yeah, cool.
He could just, in this, he could just be able to turn
into whatever element he wants.
Yeah.
What do you think about that?
I'm fine with it.
Okay, great.
Apparently all these characters are also going to serve the story
and it doesn't mean they're going to get their own spin-off.
Yeah, I mean, based on most of these,
the characters we're getting here would suggest to me
that they are background players
or they're characters that Superman meets along the way
or, you know, they're in an opening action sequence and they leave.
Superman kills them.
Exactly.
He might kill them.
I mean, based on the next one you're going to say,
which I think is-
Oh, you thought I'd forgotten, everybody, didn't you?
It's Nathan Fillion.
He's Green Lantern.
Yeah.
But not Hal Jordan.
Not the Hal Jordan Green Lantern.
Guy Gardner.
Oh, my favourite.
He's the-
The worst.
The worst one.
He's got a big bowl cut and he's a real jerk.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of them are real jerks. Hal Jordan's
kind of a jerk. Yeah, they're all jerks. But this one especially
is, he's notable in being more
of a jerk than Hal Jordan. Yeah, that's right.
Which makes me, like, that feels to me
like it is, I mean, it's a James Gunn movie
and, you know, him and Nathan Fillion
are friends and he's been in James
Gunn movies before. He was just in Guardians 3.
That suggests that he's
going to be in it, you know, for a little bit.
He's also, he's TDK.
Oh, yeah, of course he is.
Yeah, that's right.
Which basically, because they're doing a universe reset, other people can be other things and
whatever.
That's true, yeah.
James Gunn took to threads, I believe.
Oh.
Wow, early adopter.
Wow, yeah.
He said, given my old pal Nate a bowl cut might be my primary reason for casting him.
That would have been my primary reason for doing that as well,
for anybody's billing.
Who would look dumb in a bowl cut?
Everybody.
But who's the person who would hate it the most?
That's right.
Yeah, so that's fun.
I love all of that, and I'm hoping it's a good movie.
Because sometimes, every now and then, there is a good movie.
They knock one out of the park somehow.
Yeah, that's right.
Here's a quick question.
Would you prefer to be Hal Jordan?
No. Me neither. I be Hal Jordan? No.
Me neither.
I think Hal Jordan will be like a – I think they mentioned Channing Tatum maybe.
Okay.
But like someone like that is fine.
I think they might get like a Corrin Sweat.
I think they might get someone that level, like newish, relatively unknown.
I like like Nathan Fillion can do like arrogant, like kind of loser.
And he probably doesn't want to commit to 10 movies or whatever.
Or he does.
I don't think he does.
I mean, he did like eight seasons of Castle
and a million seasons of The Rookie or whatever.
And a hundred seasons of Serenity in our hearts.
That's right.
I know it's called Firefly Mason.
You don't have to fart down my throat,
which is a common Australian expression.
That's true, yeah.
It's by IGN in our segment called How the Flash Can This Happen?
Oh, my goodness.
Good thing I wrote that down.
I'd already forgotten.
Now, you're going to love this because the flash is coming to your home
in the film.
Not really, thank goodness.
In the form of.
I'm going to set up a metal detector.
In the form of either digital or physical release.
But that's not the only way you can experience The Flash.
Well, that's not enough for me.
Do you want to spend more money?
Yes.
Okay, so Warner Brothers.
I want to get something of no value.
You're going to love this then.
Okay.
Warner Brothers Discovery has announced today
that its latest superhero flick, The Flash,
is its latest blockchain movie.
Meaning you will be available to purchase this film as a non-fungible
token NFT.
The best time for an NFT.
Through the blockchain service Ulvio
starting July 18th.
That's coming up.
Yes, it is. Three days from now.
It's out of recording.
Earlier when it comes out.
In several weeks
time. If you listen to this late. It might be too late. I might have sold out several weeks' time. It'll be, if you listen to this late.
It might be too late.
Yeah, it might be too late.
I might have sold out of all of them.
Just to be clear, do not buy this.
No, don't buy it.
Anybody, not even as a joke.
No.
Yeah.
In a press release.
What about a gag gift for someone else?
No.
Okay, Andrew.
Do not encourage this kind of behavior.
It's like giving a dog a treat for pissing on the carpet.
They should have tricked Sony into releasing a Morbius NFT.
Two cinema releases
then an NFT. That would have been great.
In a press release, Warner Bros. Discovery
explains that... We're desperate for money.
We'll do anything. No, they've got
plenty of money, Mason. But it explains
that The Flash is a Web3
movie experience in a multimedia
NFT allowing fans to own it
and to engage in with the 2023
DC superhero film in an exciting way.
Just wait for somebody to put it on Twitter for nothing.
What does this mean though, Mason?
It doesn't mean anything.
It's an immersive web3 experience.
You can watch it in 4K, which you could do anyway.
Yeah, if you bought the 4K.
Access five digital locations that contain hidden augmented reality collectibles.
Oh my god. Oh, my God.
Wait, what does that mean?
Does that mean you can go to a place in real life?
I hope so.
What if you don't live near that place?
Well, you have to.
Oh, great.
Maybe it's within the, like it comes up in the movie or whatever.
Oh, great.
I don't know.
Great.
None of this means anything.
They probably haven't even figured it out yet.
Yeah, probably.
They can build it after they sell it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we'll allow them to unlock it.
Go to famous crime scene locations.
That may or may not have anything to do with anyone in this movie.
And we'll allow them to unlock exclusive content
and behind-the-scenes footage.
Also feature a voucher for those that purchase the film.
That used to just be on DVDs, behind-the-scenes stuff.
You'd have to do an NFT treasure hunt.
Nah, man, you're misremembering.
This stuff always was hard and weird and expensive to get.
Allowing them to redeem it for a DC3 Super Power Pack NFT
from the DC NFT Marketplace.
But outside of this NFT pack,
owners will obtain randomly selected key art
featuring characters from the film that vary in levels of rarity.
So it could be... Not rare it could be not rare at all.
Or somewhat rare.
Somewhat rare.
Or just look at it on Twitter.
People put all of them on Twitter.
They'll just collate them.
I mean, this is a very obvious cash grab because this movie is making
negative money.
It's the worst.
It's the biggest bomb ever, maybe.
Biggest bomb ever, maybe.
Wow.
Love that.
God.
Love it for this movie.
Future generations of YouTubers or whatever YouTubers replaced by
are going to be like, guys, you will never believe.
You will never.
Yeah.
This is the biggest bomb ever made.
And we'll be like, we lived it.
We were there.
And they'll be like, shut up, old man, because we're there.
Yeah.
We're just there.
This is three years from now.
We were there.
We were there.
And they'll just be like, this was the biggest bomb ever made
and no one remembers it.
It'll be like, yeah, great.
It had Michael Keaton or whatever.
We were there.
Well, anyway, so that's a fucking awful thing to do.
Yep.
Did you see, this is almost entirely unrelated,
but I thought it was interesting.
Did you see they're doing Call of Duty plus the boys?
Did you see that?
Like in the game? Yep. Do you shoot them? I'm not sure if they're, you can Duty plus the boys? Did you see that? Like in the game?
Yep.
Do you shoot them?
I'm not sure if they're – you can look at it quickly on the YouTube.
Have a quick look.
Have a quick look, James.
I don't want to watch it.
I just want to know what it is.
Have a quick squiz.
There are three characters.
There are three of the boys' characters in the game.
I'm not sure if you play as them or if they're like notable enemy characters
or if they're like, you know, the hero characters like in the Star Wars where you burn points
and then you can turn into them or whatever.
But it's Homelander, Starlight, and Black Noir.
Yeah.
And you can also get like Temp V in the game that gives you superpowers.
Okay.
Just look at this.
Yeah, you can shoot.
They've got guns.
They do have guns, which is interesting.
Presumably you can play as them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
These guys get it.
Yeah.
And I think they're being voiced by Anthony Starr,
Aaron Moriarty, and nobody because Black Moth doesn't speak.
Well, that's why you picked the third one, right?
I picked the third one.
That's right.
Think if this goes well, they'll have all of them?
Maybe.
Maybe with a timed release.
Including the guy who climbs inside another guy's dick?
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good stuff, Mason.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's exciting.
What an exciting time.
Exciting times we live in, you know what I mean?
To purchase absolute fucking dreck from psychopaths.
Don't you reckon?
Yes, I agree.
Has this gotten more cynical or has everything gotten worse?
No, everything's great.
Anyway, if everybody could sign up to BigSandwich.co.
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Mason.
Hello.
Let's get positive.
Let's get positive Let's get positive
Trailers ahoy
We actually have trailers this week
Three pretty big trailers
Big trailers
One of them for a movie
That they haven't been promoting
And now can't
And it's out in like a week
It's called Blue Beetle
That's right
I think this looks pretty fun
It does look pretty fun
If you haven't seen the trailer yet
The whole movie's in it though
Yep
We know who the big bad guy is.
He's fighting at the end with the final battles in it.
Isn't the big bad guy just like a variation on him?
In a way, it's a big red blue beetle.
A big red blue beetle?
Yep, that's right.
A big red blue beetle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, my God, that's what they say.
Yeah.
They're like, oh, my God, that's a big red blue beetle.
Yeah, man.
That's movies.
They've got big guns, I think.
Maybe they're bigger than your guns.
This is the first movie in the DC.
When your guns are powered by family.
Whoa.
Are they spitting into the batteries?
They are, yeah.
George Lopez is spitting into the batteries.
I think that's very cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, but look, I would say, yeah, don't watch this trailer.
Yeah.
But it does kind of, it's Spider-Man vibes, you know?
Yeah, it looks fun.
Look, the main guy looks very charming.
I think that's a bit of fun.
We get a little, some nods to the previous Blue Beetle.
It's, a lot of this has taken place in Cord Industries,
which is Ted Cord's company.
Ted Cord Industries.
And we also see his old, his Beetle ship.
Oh, do we?
Yeah.
I didn't watch it that close.
It's quite prominent.
Yeah.
Yeah?
Yeah.
In the trailer?
Yeah.
Not an NFT?
No, it's a real trailer.
Wow.
I'll wait for the NFT.
Great.
I think.
Yeah, you don't want this trailer to spoil the NFT.
Yeah, but this is, I think I saw a tweet from James Gunn that was like,
somebody tweeted, hey, when's the Blue Beetle trailer coming?
He's like, I'll look into it.
Yeah.
So, boy, this is coming out.
I don't think it's a priority for him.
Yeah, this is coming out very soon. Yeah. So what's that? What's the date? August, September? Let into it. Yeah. So, boy, this is coming out. I don't think it's a priority for him. Yeah, this is coming out very soon.
Yeah.
So what's that?
What's the date?
August, September?
Let me check.
Okay, if you wouldn't mind.
Blue Beetle.
But as mentioned, if you're in this movie, you can.
I'll promote August 17th.
That's true.
My God, yeah, that's like a month.
Yeah.
Well, good luck to this one.
Good luck to the debut.
Good luck to all movies out there.
I agree.
We hope for the best of you.
So, yeah, this is probably going to bomb.
But, you know, you never know.
Sometimes a good movie will just carry a movie.
Yep.
Sure, absolutely.
And sometimes Dungeons and Dragons.
Yeah.
And sometimes a Hot Ones interview.
Somebody's lying.
Can't do that now.
No, I can't do a Hot Ones.
Unless they already recorded it, which is possible.
Unless they already recorded it or they go on Hot Ones to not promote anything.
Yeah.
You know?
I'm just here to eat wings and shut my mouth.
Let's talk about you, Sean.
I won't be opening my mouth.
I'll be sticking these wings up my nose.
That's right.
I don't want to get in trouble.
Let's learn something about you, Sean.
I don't have anything to say.
I actually don't have a personality.
He seems nice.
He seems very nice.
I mean, because he's asking the questions.
Yes.
You know?
And he's in it with them.
Yeah.
Because I'll often be like, are you dying? And he's like, I'm with you. Yeah. Me and you are the same. That's right. We're the questions. Yes. You know? And he's in it with them. Yeah. Because they'll often be like, are you dying?
And he's like, I'm with you.
Yeah.
Me and you are the same.
That's right.
We're just jealous.
Yeah.
Agreed.
We're just a couple of jelly bellies, Mason.
It's true.
No, it is a good show.
But every now and then they're like, look, it's Ted Donovan.
I'm like, I don't know who this is.
Like, it's super rap star.
Ted Donovan?
Mitch Dick.
Mitch Dick.
I'm like, I don't know who that is either.
Yeah. Yeah. I feel the same way
have you ever seen Chicken Shop Date?
which is Amelia de Moldenberg's interview show
and she's great
but I don't know anybody on that show
I'll know one in like 20
otherwise it's like British Grime rappers
I don't know who any of these people are
I don't know, this is probably very funny
if you know any of these people
look at the Andrew Garfield interactions.
Yeah.
He hasn't done a chicken chop.
I don't think he has, no.
We also got a trailer for Ahsoka.
That's true.
We find more about the Thrawniverse.
Oh, she did one with Jennifer Lawrence.
I know who Jennifer Lawrence is.
I think I watched that one, actually.
She's done one with the Jonas Brothers.
Oh, which ones?
All three Jonas Brothers.
That's too many.
One of them needs to go.
I don't care which one.
Just get rid of one of them. Go on, sorry. That's too many. One of them needs to go. I don't care which one. Just get rid of one of them.
Go on, sorry.
Let's see.
Lewis Capaldi.
I'm aware of who that is, but I don't really know what his deal is.
Yep.
He's like, I'm normal in things.
I've always been normal around.
Okay, look.
Then it's a group called Flow.
I don't know who that is.
Shania Twain.
We're very well aware of her.
And then a guy called Central Sea, who was definitely a British crime rapper.
Oh, look at him.
And, you know, and so forth.
Yeah.
Yeah, great stuff.
Great stuff.
Ah, Ahsoka trailer.
Did you watch that?
No.
Bewell Thrawn's back and whatever, et cetera.
Oh, and we see the shot of Thrawn.
I've seen the shot of Thrawn, yeah.
Sabine and et cetera.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm looking forward to this.
Oh, yeah, great.
Just because hopefully it'll be set five years after Return of the Jedi.
Oh, that's the perfect time to set a Star Wars, I think.
I agree.
It's actually the only time unless you're setting it around the original movie.
Yeah, nice.
Yeah, but no other times.
I don't want to see a movie in any other direction.
God damn it.
What about a movie?
No.
A Star Wars movie.
Yeah.
Set in the 90s.
In the 90s?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Slap bands, hyper color.
So like, what's that?
Like 13 years after the original Star Wars? Yeah. This is a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, the 90 Slap bands, hyper-color. So, like, what's that? Like 13 years after the original Star Wars?
This is a long time ago.
Yeah, yeah, the 90s.
No, 1977.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's go to the 90s.
Yeah, I would love that.
Yeah, yeah.
God.
Hey, Ahsoka, what's going on?
We're going to see the original Mortal Kombat cinemas.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's the mid-90s, is it?
Yep.
All right.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Yeah.
We also got a trailer from director Paul King,
director of two Paddington movies, which are just an absolute delight,
for Wonka.
Jonka.
Jonka.
We've been calling it Jonka because we were under the assumption
it was going to be a dark, twisted tale of the origins
of one Mr. Wilhelm Wonka.
Yeah.
But I don't think it is.
No.
I think maybe originally that was the plan, which is why you get Chalamet.
Yeah.
And then you change the vibe and then he's woefully miscast in this.
Yeah.
Look.
And it looks bad.
I love this director.
Uh-huh.
And I actually see everything in this trailer other than him.
They're kind of delightful.
You're right.
Hugh Grant, little Hugh Grant.
Okay, that's fun.
Got a little flute.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Classic stuff.
He saw in Dungeons and Dragons, he saw Bradley Cooper being little
and he's like, I want to be little also.
Can you do that for me?
I love that Hugh Grant's just doing literally just anything
or just weird stuff.
He was in Paddington too.
He was a villain in that.
That's true, yeah.
But, yeah, we were talking about this before the show.
We actually did a full hour.
That's right.
Which is exclusive to us. That's right. You cannot get full hour. That's right. Which is exclusive to us.
That's right.
You cannot get that content.
That's right.
We paid each other nine US dollars.
Where he doesn't have the whimsy of a Gene Hackman.
Not Gene Hackman.
Oh, Gene Hackman.
Yeah, does not have a whimsy.
Gene Wilder by like a long way.
He wouldn't say any of the words Gene Hackman would say in the French connection.
No.
And good.
Yeah, I agree.
But it just, there's, that is such a performance.
Yeah.
And I recently rewatched it with my son who loved it, thought it was incredible.
And just none of that is here.
Yeah.
Like all the whimsy when he does that thing where he's like,
I'll flip it another way or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just like, are you reading that?
Like, what is this?
Yeah, look, and again, there's no way for me to prove this.
I like it, Charlemagne.
I think he's good.
I think he's great in Dune.
Apparently he's good in that.
Is he in a cannibal movie that he's good in?
He's in Call Me By Your Name or whatever with Armie Hammer.
Okay, but he's also in a cannibal movie.
Okay.
Well, then he's in two cannibal movies.
Oh, no.
I didn't even think of that.
But look, there's no way for me to prove this,
but I think initially the movie was going to have a certain vibe
and they hired Timothee Chalamet based on that vibe of like sort of sinister.
Like a return to Oz kind of thing?
Yeah, return to Oz, like, yeah, something like that.
Yeah.
And then they changed the vibe because they're like,
well, we've got to make this a four-quarter movie
for all the demographics and all the kids
and it's going to be fantastic.
All the charlatans.
All the charlatans.
Oh.
New York Charlemagne's?
All the Charlemagne's.
Exactly.
Whatever.
Whatever.
This is free.
Whatever.
I can say it to you.
That's right.
Can't stop us.
We'll never be censored.
We'll say stupid things.
You can't stop us.
No one would want to.
And they hide him because they're like,
we'll make it weird and sinister.
But then they're like, yeah, we've got to make it uplifting
and et cetera and it's going to be a beautiful kids' movie
or whatever.
And then they change the vibe, which resulted in him being
in a movie with a vibe that he's not suited to.
You think they're going to like Edward Scissorhands him a bit?
Yeah.
You know the bit in the
original movie where they go in under the boat and they go on the boat and they cut their head
off a chicken yes that's right love it yeah yeah and it's all weird and sinister i'm like well it
seems like it's going to be a whole movie of that yeah it's not it's they've they've brought out who
wants to make chocolate yeah i love chocolate yeah chocolate. Yeah. I mean, imagine the movie Cruella, which was a prequel to 101 Dalmatians,
but bad.
Like the movie Cruella.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not that bad, that movie.
It was actually, that's some fun moments.
Like when the dogs killed that woman.
Do you remember that?
No, I didn't see it.
Oh, no, I have seen the clip, but they pushed her over there.
You were probably too busy watching Pinocchio.
I was too busy watching Red.
The Tom Hanks version.
I hated that, but also I'm too busy watching Red Notice.
Oh, yeah.
So you might want to know, how did Timothee Chalamet audition for this?
He didn't.
Well, here we go.
It was a straight offer because he's great, this is the director,
and he's the only person in mind who could do it.
But because he's Timothee Chalamet and his life is so absurd,
his high school musical performances are on YouTube
and have hundreds of thousands of views.
So I knew from standing
for Timothee Chalamet that he could sing and dance
really well. This is also a musical, I forgot.
Yeah, so I think also, let's wait.
Let's see. It's the Paddington
guy. And he's...
And Paddingtons are the best. Do you agree?
They're good.
They're certainly good. Come on, man!
People love those movies. And if you say they're bad,
someone will kill you.
Is that what you want?
No.
You prefer that?
Okay.
So here's a tweet from Alex Friedman.
Unfamiliar with them.
Yes.
But she has said, apropos of nothing, some weirdos I think could have done a great wonker.
Here we go.
And we've got Daniel Radcliffe.
I agree.
He's weird.
Nicholas Holt.
Yep.
Agreed.
Charlie Day. 100%. And I don Holtz. Yep, agreed. Charlie Day.
100%.
And I don't know who this last guy is, but.
That's Dylan fucking.
Moran.
Yeah, Dylan Moran.
Wow.
No, is it?
I don't know.
What's his name?
I don't know who that goes.
He's in the Scorch Trials and whatever.
Oh, okay, right.
But I think that would.
I love the fact.
Dylan O'Brien.
Dylan O'Brien.
I like Dylan O'Brien.
Right, right, right.
But we haven't seen it yet. YeahBrien. But we haven't seen it yet.
Yeah.
Well, we haven't seen it yet.
But I think Daniel Radcliffe would be good because he's got the –
He does weird stuff.
He does weird and whimsy and –
Isn't that show that's like Soulmates or not Soulmates.
It's something where he's on different time periods and –
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Nicholas Hull will be good.
I think Charlie Day is –
Probably doesn't suit – he's older than gene wilder was with gene wilder
yeah so you can't yeah i don't know 100 uh buy that one and he'd be a good umpah lumpah and i
think yeah i think he's too weird yeah i think you need to be like weird and handsome and yeah
and you're gonna be able to do a forward roll you have to do i'd be able to do a four roll
how many forward rolls i think he's too inside like it's yeah he's too intense but i think the other i think nicholas holt and daniel radcliffe would have been yeah there to do a four-roll. How many four-rolls? I think he's too intense.
But I think Nicholas Hoult and Daniel Radcliffe would have been great.
Yeah, there is like a reservedness to Gene Wilder when he needs to.
God, he's fucking funny in that movie.
He's really good.
Yeah.
There we go.
Anyway, looks bad, but I guess we'll see it.
Jonker.
Jonker.
I don't think it's – it doesn't feel like Jonker anymore.
No.
It's Wangtastic Beasts.
Okay.
Wongtastic Beasts?
What are we doing?
Fantastic Beasts.
It feels like a Fantastic Beasts movie, but Wong. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Fantastic Wong?
Fantastic Wong.
Sure.
Wong – no, I think it should be Wongtastic Beasts.
Wongtastic Beasts.
But that would imply Wong is in it and he's not.
It's confusing.
Yeah.
So we'll keep it.
Now, Mason, last bit of news we've just got to talk about
is next week at cinemas,
Barbie and Opperheimer are going head to head.
Opperheimer, we're calling it?
What did you say?
You said Opperheimer.
I never said anything.
And I reset the accusation.
And people say, what do you see first?
Do you even see both?
But I like that these are coming together as a double bill.
You want to see some people get obliterated by a nuclear explosion
in a real-world event.
And then Oppenheimer.
We did it.
He's done the joke.
We did it.
He's done the joke.
He flipped it.
He flipped it.
Now, I read this week, and this makes a lot of sense,
that Christopher Nolan is not happy about this double bill
because Warner Brothers has done this because they don't like him anymore
and they're like.
Yeah.
But it feels more like counter-programming to me.
Wasn't he also like, I like that cinema's coming back?
Probably.
People are like, maybe two movies.
Yeah, maybe two movies.
Now, what are you going to see first?
That's the big discussion point.
Look, well, I'm probably – I'm not going to see one over the other first
stylistically or for vibes reasons.
For tax reasons.
For tax reasons.
It's probably going to be like whatever is available first at my local cinema.
Like if there's a midnight screening of Barbie first or Oppenheimer first,
I'm like, well, I'll do that one the night before and then I'll see.
Because we've got to see both of them before next week.
I would love to be able to see Oppenheimer first and then Barbie.
Explain your reasoning, James.
I just think Barbie would be a nice thing to watch after Oppenheimer.
Right, right, right.
But I don't think I can actually see it that way.
Just looking at the session times and how my week's planning out and everything,
I might have to do it the other way.
That's so true.
I don't care.
As long as I get to see two great movies,
which everybody is saying these are, Mason.
That's true.
Woo!
Woo is correct, my friend.
Quick update, James.
Go on.
There is an advanced screening of Barbie on Wednesday night.
They're doing girls' nights, I saw.
Flicks with the chicks.
Yeah, man.
So I might pop to that session early,
and then I'm going to see Oppenheimer and be massivelyicks with the chicks. Yeah, man. So I might pop to that session early and then I'm going to
see Oppenheimer and be massively
depressed on the Thursday. Interesting
choice. Wonderful, yeah. Of movies.
Cute. I literally have
no choice. I must see them both. If you see both movies
can I then see neither movie?
I guess. And I'll just recount the plots
to you. We both have different perspectives.
Oh, that's true actually. It's cheaper for me too.
I don't want to pay for tickets for all of my family to see Oppenheimer.
My three-year-old daughter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And your wife will be like, who's that?
You'll be like, I don't know yet either.
It's probably President Truman or something.
I don't know yet.
I have the same information you do.
We've both gone to this movie anyway.
It's probably Einstein.
Look, I know it looks weird.
It looks weird in the trailer.
It looks weird in the movie.
Yeah.
You seen that?
Yes.
It looks like a sketch.
Yeah.
Maybe that's what he looked like though.
I don't know.
You know?
I don't know if I've met him.
I don't even think he's that smart.
That's what I think.
The tone of you always suggests you have met him
and he was way smarter than you and you're covering.
No.
No.
No.
Okay.
Just no.
Okay, I believe you.
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Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1.
Pow!
The budget of this movie was close to $290 million.
That's very expensive.
That's right.
Well, they're doing big stunts for real, and this shot during COVID.
It was one of the few productions which did not slow down,
and maybe everybody got COVID on a boat or something at one point.
Do you remember that?
No, boat fit.
That's the worst kind you can get.
Something happened.
I don't remember.
It was a million years ago.
This was filmed mostly a long time ago. Wow.
Well, you can tell because Tom Cruise on the campaign trail
has had time to regrow his hair.
He looks completely different.
And weird.
What do you think?
Yeah, his hair's weird.
Is it because you've learnt his 61 recently
and now you're like that's put his whole,
his entire being into a different perspective?
Yeah, I don't know.
There's some things at odds there, you know?
Okay, all right.
I don't know.
Anyway, good luck to him.
He's got a bright future, that kid.
So that's a lot of money.
Yeah.
For a movie that's not doing this well, potentially an obvious nightmare,
which we've recently seen.
But the box office five-day weekend for this in the US is $78 million,
obviously less for just the two-day weekend, which is pretty good.
It's probably more, though, and it's going to make about,
I reckon, I think it was $250 million worldwide in the first weekend.
Well, it's nearly covered some of it minus marketing costs.
This looks to be the biggest opening for any Mission Impossible movie,
which is not a surprise considering the absolute fervor
which is happening and the amount of press that Tom Cruise
squeezed out before the actor's strike ended up happening.
He had to go back in the locker that he lives.
That's right.
Whatever.
Now let me ask you this.
Do you think –
He lives in the locker from the Men in Black 2 train station.
Oh, it's got a whole universe in it.
Yeah, the weird alien locker.
I don't know.
It sounds a bit like a 15-minute city to me.
It's got a whole universe within walking distance.
I don't know about that.
It's a bit like a 15-minute city to me.
It's got a whole universe within walking distance.
I don't know about that.
Do you think like Maverick, good word of mouth,
will cause a sales spike in this?
Yeah, I think this could carry it further.
Also, there's not really a – well, there are big movies like this,
but Oppenheimer is not an action movie.
That's true.
And Barbie is like appealing to a different audience.
So I think that of the action blockbusters of the summer,
so it's like this and The Flash and Indiana Jones,
I think this one has the potential to carry longer.
Exactly.
This one has a string of hits in the past.
It's also got a string of hits in recent memory.
So people remember the last one and are enjoying the last one,
unlike an Indiana Jones, for example.
It's not tied to a dead universe. True the dark universe the dark universe yeah dodged a bullet there absolutely so uh and also
it's pretty good it's pretty good i'll say very good but before we get to that what do you think
the story was oh come on mate yeah how much can i reveal in this i wonder i would say um let's
like they'll do light spoilers but we're gonna have to say certain things in terms of what they're after
and what's after them.
Yeah.
But if you don't want to know anything, maybe just skip this whole thing,
I would say.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Well, let me tell you this.
Ethan Hunt, he loves doing a Mission Impossible.
How many times has he done it?
I mean.
On camera?
This is the seventh.
This is the seventh, I guess.
But I guess sometimes he's done multiple ones.
Yeah, yeah.
I would consider some of his impossible missions like sub-missions as well.
Ooh.
We also find out whether or not he can choose to do them or not.
That's true.
Apparently they answer to the president.
They don't know.
I don't think they know.
I don't think anybody knows.
I think they answer to the president.
There's some retconning in this movie, I feel.
Absolutely there is.
The background of some of the characters
and how the IMF works and so forth.
But anyway, Tom Cruise is a big Mission Impossible guy,
but then he's got to do this mission.
Let's say big in spirit.
Oh, yeah.
If not stature.
Yeah, he's a regular-sized Mission Impossible guy.
Yeah, okay, sure.
But there's a threat out there.
What is it?
I'm not going to tell you.
Yeah, you should have watched the movie.
You said you were going to watch the movie.
Did you, James?
Did you watch the movie?
I was joking when I said I was going to watch it.
You son of a bitch.
Yeah.
Anyway, but there's a new threat on the horizon and it's going to bloody, it's going to bloody,
it's going to re-
It's going to put all these skills to the test.
It's going to put all these skills to the test.
It's a Mission Impossible movie.
And all of these mates' skills to the test.
All these mates are there.
Yeah.
You know?
Benji.
Yep.
Luther.
Lassie.
Lassie.
Doug.
Doug's there.
The nostalgia critic?
Yeah, on the animated cartoon, Doug.
I was thinking.
Oh, okay, right.
Yeah, sure.
Both.
Wow.
Yeah, the twins.
We need the Dougs.
In an espionage movie, there's all kinds of characters called the twins.
In this case, it's the two ducks.
Now, before we get into like-
Anyway, was that a good summary of the plot?
I think it was great.
I think there's going to be like levels of spoilers
because we also have to give spoilers for what the villains are.
Who the villains are, James.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So I think maybe there's like three levels to this,
but I just want to talk about the original opening scene for this
and what there was going to be was a 25 minute
cold opening set in 1989
now we catch glimpses of that
in this movie, my understanding of Ethan Hunt
was I always assumed he came straight from the military
and that's why he's got the haircut
and they might have even said that in the movie
I don't remember
I watched it like three years ago
or whatever. But
Christopher McQuarrie came out with a quote about
doing a de-aging 25-minute sequence.
Right. And this is very
interesting, especially when you compare it to a movie
which did this last week. Yeah.
Did a lot of this stuff. Like there's a train chase.
There was a train chase last week. Absolutely.
Now let me ask you this, James. Is this, did they
film this? Mostly. And snippet it.
So there is, so 25 minutes of it doesn't exist somewhere.
I think some of it because he said,
never did I find myself actually following the story.
I was so distracted by an actor that I had known for however long
who was now suddenly this young person.
Right.
And I found that looking at Harrison Ford,
my whole time I was looking at it,
I found it really hard to focus on the scenes and what was happening
because I'm just looking at his
face the whole time.
And you're like,
he looks young,
not quite how he looked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think the way you have to do it is you have them speak less,
you do it in shadows and that's,
and because he talks about how we would have potentially done it,
but ultimately found it distracting and took it out.
And I think that shows incredible restraint to do that.
Cause that's 25,
a 25 minute de--aging sequence cold open.
How many millions of dollars is that?
And he went, no.
Yeah, and again, maybe they did it or some of it,
some tests at the very least.
It seems like they did.
But during this movie, Mason, the myth of Ethan Hunt grows.
Now, I find Tom Cruise's redemption arc fascinating.
Okay. This is not an Ethan Hunt thing. This is Tom Cruise's redemption arc fascinating. Okay.
It's something that people-
This is not an Ethan Hunt thing.
This is Tom Cruise, the celebrity.
Just the idea that like there was a time when people were like,
what a weird freak.
What is he up to?
Why is he jumping on those couches?
Yeah.
Why is he shooting lighting bolts out of his hands?
Like his relationships are all weird and have all this-
What does Oprah think of this?
Yeah, like shrouded in like weird mysteries.
And if you look into like the divorces that he's had,
in particular the one with the Katie Holmes and all that,
I don't want to get into the specifics of it, but how did they go?
And all the Scientology shit, not to mention, I mean,
it's all tied in and whatever.
But like it's completely come around to like, yeah, he's real weird,
but that's what we love about him now because he's trying to kill himself for us.
Is that where we're at?
Yeah, I guess so.
Look, as someone who, like, you look at his history and go,
weird, don't like that, what a very compelling person
who makes movies and is in movies, you know?
Absolutely right.
I mean, he's turned us all round for the most part, I feel like.
Do you have any thoughts on that or is that just?
No, I mean, you know,
and I also think that's probably a very deliberate PR choice because he
doesn't.
He doesn't talk about it.
No.
I don't even remember him ever talking about it really.
But, I mean, I think especially now they've probably said, like,
don't talk about it.
Just be the guy who loves movies.
Yeah.
And makes movies and be compelling and give the audience what they want.
Exactly.
Shut up.
I think if there is a strategy, if there is any kind of religion-based
strategy to this, it might just be like be compelling and charismatic
and have people find their own way to it.
Yeah.
I think you're right.
I think you're absolutely right.
And I have.
Yeah.
You're back. I'm a pastafarian. And I have. Yeah. You're back.
I'm a pastor-farian now.
Absolutely.
I'm a guy with a colander on my head.
Did you not notice it earlier?
No, I noticed it.
Okay.
I just think it's really cool.
Thanks, man.
But I didn't want to draw attention to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So we talked about how I read the headliner review last week
where in this movie Tom Cruise fights God.
It's interesting because he metaphorically does that
in a very literal sense.
Sure.
Absolutely.
Should we do some spoilers of what the villain is?
Yes.
It's big time spoiler time, folks.
Just in general or just the villain?
Because I think there's further spoilers we can spoil.
Yeah, just, no, okay, it's just the villain.
We're talking, I mean, there is a human villain from
Ethan Hunt's past.
Yeah.
Who is not from a previous movie.
He is a new, he's been retconned in.
Yes.
He would have been in that.
You do see some of that flashback in 89 and he's in it.
He is part of Ethan Hunt's pre-IMF past.
Yes.
When Ethan Hunt was in his grub era.
That's exactly right.
Running through the sewer, licking the walls.
Because we all assumed that he went crew cut and then MI2 hair.
Yeah.
But it seems like he had MI2 hair, then the crew cut,
then MI2 hair again.
He was getting in line.
Exactly.
But anyway, this has been in most reviews.
I think so, yeah.
This villain, this human villain, I guess by saying human villain,
I've really spoiled.
It's not a dog.
It's a walrus.
This villain is doing the bidding of an AI that's become sentient.
Yes.
And is engineering various espionage acts around the world for its own ends.
I thought it was really interesting that it started in like social media
and changing the news slightly and it would like influence political events
just a little bit and whatever and then how it built from there.
I just thought that was a really interesting way to look at AI in a movie
because I know that Vin Diesel was talking about doing AI
for the next Fast X movies.
Right.
And somebody actually sent this headline to us, and I think it's quite fascinating.
Oh, and speaking of a movie that does something that another movie did recently but way better.
Car Chase.
Car Chase in Italy, yeah.
Exactly.
So this is from Fabberg Z, who says, I thought you might appreciate this pull quote.
It's from the Sunny Birch Review who says,
imagine the Fast and Furious series but good,
headlined by a genuine star featuring coherently shot set pieces
and looking like they exist in something like the real world
instead of a CGI composited bag of garbage.
But also there's a lot of CGI in these movies.
Yeah. There just has to be for it to exist in the way that it does but because so much of it is real and so much of the promo is built around that it's
like when they talk about top gun maverick they were like this is all real planes it is absolutely
not that's that movie is like 70 cgi like the action sequences but you know that's visual
effects visual effects i should effects, I should say.
Because I believe Nolan quite recently said there's no CGI in Oppenheim.
Yeah.
And he's right because there's no fully created digital world.
Yes.
We're just looking at like the screen of a video game.
Yeah.
But there is plenty of scenes that have a physical real world basis
and then they put digital effects on top of that, which is visual effects.
Then you've got Jar Jar Binks waving. jar jar binks is there and he's like miss misa become death
destroyer of worlds he said you know yeah i am so the only man who could stop the ai seemingly
and the ai knows this they call it the entity is tom cruise because it seems like the ai has
figured out that everybody has a pattern and a weak point and something you can push somebody on
or break them or manipulate them.
And Ethan's his friendship.
Yeah, but he also-
And that ankle he broke during call-out.
An ankle he broke.
But also, Ethan Hunt seemingly cannot be predicted,
and he streaks out-
Because he's the living manifestation of destiny.
What's the quote?
There was a quote.
I even wrote it down in the movies.
I don't like to pull my phone out in the movies so you said sorry everyone i'm writing this down in the movies
to write this down because i think it's important for my podcast that's what i said yeah can i find
this note oh which reminds me before you get to that so so the villain gabriel yeah so it's it's
it's getting quite biblical in here uh if that's isai morales who people might know as deathstroke
from titans oh yeah but he's great yeah i Deathstroke from Titans. Oh, yeah. But he's great.
Yeah, I agree.
He's really good at this.
And also very, very sinister in that kind of – he's got an evil glint to his eye because of this character.
In addition to serving this – he's serving this AI villain because he likes suffering in the world.
And he thinks that this AI is going to bring that to the people who deserve it or have you.
And also, what a wonderful autumnal colour palette this guy is working with.
Absolutely.
He's wearing his suede jackets and he's wearing cranberry and sandalwood
and all sorts of colours.
He's looking amazing.
How is he pulling this off?
I don't know, but he's the best-dressed villain I think
that Mission Impossible has ever had.
I don't disagree with that.
Name a better one.
Philip Seymour Hoffman?
No.
I love Philip Seymour Hoffman.
You would.
But these don't compare.
So, oh, I just put my phone away.
I just found the quote.
Oh, yeah?
He's referred to as, because at the start,
Ethan Hunt's gone rogue.
You're not going to believe it.
And he's referred to as, and the government,
they're telling a big government guy about the impossible mission force.
They're telling Mr. Cary Elwes.
And Rob, what's his name?
Thomas.
No. From Matchbox 20. No, he's from. Friend of Santana. No, he's in Mission Force. Telling Mr. Cary Elwes. And Rob, what's his name? Thomas. No.
From Matchbox 20.
No, he's from.
Friend of Santana.
No, he's in Mission Impossible.
No, not Mission Impossible.
He's in Deadpool 2.
Rob Corddry.
Yes.
No.
Rob.
Dang it.
He's also in Hobbs and Shaw.
He's big on Twitter.
There's two Fast and Furious alumni in it.
Rob Delaney.
Rob Delaney.
And it's also one of the guys chasing him.
Shea Whigham.
Yeah, is from.
We'll talk about him later.
Fast 2 or 1.
I don't know.
Anyways, they're explaining to some government bigwig the deal with Ethan Hunt,
and he's described as a mind-reading, shape-shifting agent of chaos.
There it is.
Yeah.
Supporting cast.
As you mentioned, though, Rob Delaney's in this for a scene.
Carrie Elwes is the.
Love that.
He's the director of national intelligence.
Pom Clemente is the Joker.
Yep.
That's right. in this movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know if you've noticed.
Vanessa Kirby and Rebecca Ferguson are back.
And, of course, we get the debut of Hayley Atwell.
Yes.
And she's great.
I really like her in this as well.
She's like a professional globetrotting thief who steals big stuff for clients,
who jumps in on this and is sort of immediately
in over a head which i think is great i like the i like the idea behind like she knows what she's
doing and she brings a new set of skills but not what he does and but but there's a whole nother
level i like the idea that we're we're bringing in like a more of a civilian yeah you know what
i mean to observe this stuff and be like oh this actually is crazy i thought initially it was going
to be because the entity is like, is manipulating everything all the time.
So when he comes across her initially,
I thought it was going to be that she was just a normal person and the
entity just made him think that she was this other person.
But I like the idea that she's got all these pickpocketing skills and
whatever.
I would say this though, Mason,
there is some weird stuff in these movies when you look back in relation to
women in this and the relationships that Tom Cruise has with them within the movie, the Ethan Hunt character, and the promises that he makes to love and protect them while simultaneously in the real world and in movies often churning through these characters and actors.
Yeah, yeah.
And there's some parallel that to be made with Tom Cruise's real life as well.
Yeah, yeah.
Is this an accident?
I mean, like it's
not an intentionally thing like to draw attention to it's an accident i i imagine part of it could
be because he's like i'm the best that i'll protect you but i can't protect you yeah but i
also think it's probably just there there must be an element i think of just hollywood's the
hollywood machine like if you're a tom cruise a Tom Cruise, you can be in a movie franchise
for 20 years, but if you're a woman in Hollywood,
you've only got a couple of years in you before Hollywood's like,
oh, 29, too old kind of thing.
You know, because we had a manual bout in one.
Too old for 61-year-old Tom Cruise.
Well, exactly.
And she would be, you remember?
Yeah, I remember.
She's in the first one and she would be like just a few years younger
than Tom Cruise.
Yeah.
And then Tandy Newton in two.
Yep.
And then who's in three?
Oh, it's.
She actually came back.
She did come back, yes.
But then who's Paul Patton?
Paul Patton didn't come back.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, but I.
She's 59, yeah.
Here's the thing.
I think to the franchise's credit at this point.
Emmanuel Barrett is 59, yeah. Here's the thing. I think to this franchise's credit at this point. Emmanuel Barrett is 59, yeah.
I think to this franchise's credit, we have kept Rebecca Ferguson
and Vanessa Kirby for a couple of movies.
Yes.
And they haven't discarded them already.
Yeah.
You know, they've.
But you're saying they should.
Yes, absolutely.
I don't know.
How do you feel about the religious metaphors and allegories in this?
It's interesting.
It's very interesting.
What I think is the most interesting about this is the –
Is it supposed to be a false god or is this the Christian god?
Like what does it represent here?
Because the entity – and there's two words you're going to hear a lot.
Three words, I guess. The entity and the there's two words you're going to hear a lot, three words,
I guess, the entity and the key, four words, I guess. Those two of those words are the same word. I think that the entity is a metaphor for AI in Hollywood. I think it's God. Oh,
you think it actually is God? Because if the key that you use to-
Because it looks like a crucifix. It's a crucifix. As you mentioned,
Gabriel, who was a soldier of God. and the idea that tom cruise is this unstoppable force
that god fears i think that is also yeah but i think i think this is that's also what i like
about it's like what is this it's it's very metal gear solid the franchise has become metal gear
solid a little bit it's a little bit weirdly supernatural now um yeah like i said the vibes in this movie
are kind of insane a little bit yeah um i think this is a metaphor and i think the ai is because
it's it's a being that wants to put the imf team out of work essentially yeah maybe by destroying
the world but maybe by making them obsolete yes but tom cruise doesn't want that to happen yeah
he wants to keep working that's right and so they so they've got to – they're going to – the end – without spoiling anything,
I think the next one they're going to prove that AI isn't good enough.
And it's just – I mean, obviously they're going to defeat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, I mean, you know, it's going to be about how the human spirit
and collaboration and friendship works together and is more powerful
than a being that is just churning through
probabilities or a bomb or big bomb a big nuclear bomb that isn't or a movie that bombs or a movie
that bombs what i think is great about all of that stuff and all the things that like i read into
these movies and like the actor in real life and the storylines and and what what this means and
whatever most movies are just like and then this this, this, this, and this. Yeah. Whereas here I'm walking away, I'm like, what the fuck was that about?
Right.
And not in a way that's like, I don't know, not in a way that's, you know,
that's like that was confusing.
It's something to chew on.
Yeah, it's something to chew on.
It's something to your brain to chew on after you've left where a lot of,
you know, we have, I had fun with the movie Black Adam,
but I haven't thought about it since.
I think about it every day.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, and you're like, God, this is quite meaningful.
I was going to say there's a lot of, I feel like there's a lot of what I would,
what I think is deliberate throwbacks to the first mission if possible in this.
Yeah.
I mean, there's characters.
There's, Kittredge is back.
Kittredge is back.
Apparently, according to Macquarie, because there's also like, there is the scene with Kittredge is back. Kittredge is back. Apparently, according to McQuarrie, because there's also like –
there is the scene with Kittredge and Hunt.
They're also on a train.
They're on a train and there's a bunch of Dutch angles
and all this sort of stuff, which was like very Brian De Palma
in the first movie.
But apparently, according to Christopher McQuarrie,
none of it was like purposeful throwback.
It was like what fitted in the moment, in the scene.
Like whatever angle worked best for the scene,
that's what we put in kind of thing.
But I feel like a lot of this, like he's got his Mission Impossible
one hair back.
He does, yeah.
Not entirely, but it's the closest you could get.
It's shorter.
No, it's short, I'm saying.
It's short, yeah, but it's not as short as he,
because I don't think a man of Tom Cruise's age now
could do the crew cut.
He's also wigged up for some of this.
I think it's reshoots and also some stunt work.
I mean, if we can divert again.
Yeah.
Speaking of wigs.
Yeah.
It's the summer of Shea, as far as I'm concerned.
Summer of Shea?
Shea Wiggum.
What are we talking about?
What is this?
All the winter of Wiggum.
Shea Wiggum, the guy, one of the agents who's chasing him.
Oh, yeah, Shea Wiggum.
Right, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Incredible hair on this guy.
How does he do it?
I don't know, but I'm loving it.
What's his secret?
I don't know, but I saw his character poster some weeks ago,
and I'm like, that's unbelievable hair.
But in motion.
54 years old.
Normally, I would say normally when we get to the Weekly Planet Awards
at the end of the year, the awards that mean nothing
and nobody cares about.
That's not true.
No, it's true.
Tom Cruise would almost certainly get a nomination for best hair or wig.
Not this year.
I think Shea Whigham's getting the nod.
I agree.
So he's in Fast and Furious 4 and 6.
He's also Captain Stacey in Across the Spider-Verse.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, it's the summer of Shea is what I'm saying.
I'm glad he's doing it.
Yeah, me too.
Movies.
Movies. That's a good movie, that Spider-Verse movie. I agree.. I'm glad he's doing it. Yeah, me too. Movies. Movies.
That's a good movie, that Spider-Verse movie.
I agree.
A lot of people don't think that.
Is that true?
No.
What are we talking about?
I've lost the thread.
Here.
I derailed the thread.
That's okay.
Well, speaking of derailing, let's talk about stunts.
Okay.
So the big one, which I wasn't that impressed because I'd seen it a million times, was the big jump on the bike.
Yes.
I mean, that is objectively spectacular,
and he did it for real and all of those things.
Yes.
But, like, by the time I saw that, I had seen that 150 times already.
But there's other things in this.
Yeah.
Here's a stray thought.
I was going to bring it up later, but I know I'll forget about it.
This movie is also filmed on digital.
Yeah.
None of the others are.
No.
Which is interesting why
because i feel like digital video is the motion smoothing of cinema and i feel like tom cruise
would be against it but this is on digital and you can tell i think like there's this there's
there's a scene there's a fight on the top of the train. Yeah. And I think it looks good and I'm sure they did a lot of it for real.
Yeah.
But it's got the weird digital sheen over it.
Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
I think a lot of the time with digital you genuinely can't tell,
like if it's done properly.
Right.
But, no, I see what you're talking about, yeah.
Yeah.
But otherwise there is a scene you see in the trailer,
there's a scene with Hayley Atwell and Ethan Hunt.
Yeah.
Character and actor.
Yes.
On a train.
It's kind of a chase within the train.
Very intense.
Very intense.
I agree.
And, of course, there's a scene quite early on in an airport.
Yeah.
And I loved it.
And there's also a really fun car chase.
Yes.
They're in the street.
In a tiny little theater.
Yes.
Which I loved.
And he's doing it one-handed.
And they're back and forth in that,
and there's a little joke, and he's like, hang on, I just need a minute
to adjust to this car, because
all the tech's different.
There's little bits of humor
in this. I was going to say, so if you recall
Mission Impossible Fallout, I don't know what you do,
there's a scene
where
Ethan has to get the remote trigger
and get the fuse out of it while Benji and Luther have to defuse
separate bombs and everything's happening at once
and it's very exciting.
I felt like similar vibes with the airport situation.
Yes.
And there's so much going on.
They've gone, okay, well, how can we top that?
How can we top that right out of the gate?
You know, the very intense scene at the end of the last one,
how can we make it even bigger for the start of the new one?
And it's Ethan and Benji and Luther, and they're all working together,
and there's even more layers going on.
Yeah, absolutely.
I have some questions about it, which we'll talk about in spoilers, I think.
We'll talk about it, yeah.
Should we get into some spoilers?
Yes.
Oh, just quickly, Sleight of Hand has returned.
That's right.
Has returned.
Again, back from Mission Impossible 1.
I think this is easily the one that is most like the first movie.
I think this also has something which all the other movies don't have
except the first one, just that fucking bug-eyed paranoia.
Yeah.
And not in the same sense because that movie is people are just staring
and sweating at each other.
It's true, yeah.
There's a real weird intensity to that movie, which I love first one and this has a weird intensity it does and i think
i think it is that entity thing where it could be anybody or see you at any time yeah right
or what i also thought and again i'm not i'm not looking with these movies they are
they're fun there is a lot of sincerity to them yeah and i'm not looking for marvel like
quips and so on and so forth but everybody really just accepts the entity at face value.
Yes.
Do you notice?
Nobody's ever like, are you sure though?
I'm going to go with it.
I think if you were like, hey, there's an AI in my computer
and it's sending me Goatsey and so forth, I'd be like, are you sure?
No, that's me.
That's me, Nick Mason.
I'd be like, are you sure or is it just a guy messing with you? Yeah Nick Mason. I'd be like, are you sure? Or is it just a guy messing with you?
Yeah, but also like I'm a guy.
I'm a normal person.
Right.
Like I, you know, these are the people at the top of their game.
I guess that's true.
They work in this industry.
But I mean, nobody is like, are you sure it isn't a spy or something?
Yeah.
Come on.
Yeah.
You know?
Well, it's not.
I think it might be.
Or it is.
I think it might be a guy.
Well, we'll talk about it. Should we talk about spoilers? Yes. I'm going to say best movie ever. I think it might be. Or it is. I think it might be a guy. Well, we'll talk about it.
Should we talk about spoilers?
Yes.
I'm going to say best movie ever.
I'm also going to say best movie ever.
Where would you rank this in terms of Mission Impossible movies generally?
Bearing in mind we generally say Fallout is the top.
Yep.
And everything else is below.
I think 1 and Fallout are my favorites.
And this is probably just below that.
What about you?
Yeah, okay.
I think Fallout's probably more fun and the bombastic kind of nature
of that I enjoy.
That's got like a real smash and grab kind of feel to it, which I like.
I think my top two are probably Fallout and then Ghost Protocol.
Yeah.
I would probably put it.
I think Ghost Protocol after the building kind of is whatever.
Yeah, you're probably right.
So that's why I put that a little bit lower. Yeah, yeah. But I do love Ghost Protocol after the building kind of is whatever. So that's why I put that a little bit lower.
But I do love Ghost Protocol.
I would say it's probably on par with 1.
So I would say probably equal third-ish.
Third or fourth, somewhere around that area, I reckon.
I also think 3 is very good.
Oh, yes.
And 2 is bad.
Oh, wow.
Where's 5?
It's pretty good.
Yeah, upon a rewatch, I enjoyed five a lot more than I thought I did.
It's really nice.
Anyway, it's big time spoiler time.
We're going to do all the big spoilers.
So the big quest in this is, and they reiterated it 100 million times in this movie,
so you don't miss out.
Yep.
If I was critical of this movie, would probably say uh more than any of
the other ones it does feel like they're going the audience is kind of done we better we better
reiterate this plot again but you're saying if you had a criticism i do but i have i don't have
this is no i don't have any criticisms but the plot is so the the the entity is spread itself
all over the internet it cannot be stopped except its original source code,
there's a remnant of it in a downed crashed submarine
which is under some arctic ice
and it can be activated with two pieces of a key
which was originally for their silent running drive or their...
Something like that.
Something like that.
So if you get the two pieces of the key...
It looks like a Jesus cross.
It does look like a Jesus cross. I don't think that's an accident mason like one of
those fast jesus x's yeah man um but if you get the two pieces of a key and if you make it to that
location you could presumably you could you could access the original source code with the key and
you could either control the entity or destroy it yeah so obviously or a different thing you know
different things so every all the governments want to control it yeah and ethan's like well i'm going And you could either control the entity or destroy it. Yeah. So obviously. Or a different thing. A different thing.
So all the governments want to control it.
Yeah.
And Ethan's like, well, I'm going to go rogue.
We're all going to go rogue.
We're going to get that kid.
We're going to destroy that entity.
Yeah. Because it's AI and that's taking away writers' jobs.
That's right.
That's what he says.
Yeah.
But you have a theory.
Yes.
That it's a third thing.
I don't have a theory, but I have a wacky fan service.
A wish. I have a wacky fan service. A wish.
I have a wacky fan service request.
I love this, by the way.
Oh, yes.
I think there's a good chance this could be like a third thing could happen.
Right.
But I don't necessarily think it's going to.
Anyway, go on.
Okay, so I want, like because this one is deliberately
or inadvertently a throwback to the first Mission Impossible movie.
Yeah.
And also I think it's odd that everybody, again,
is taking it as given that this AI is this sentient being
and it's operating under its own steam
and it's decided to control the world or what have you.
Yeah.
I am hoping, but not really, but really,
that it's going to be Emilio Estevez from Mission Impossible 1.
And is he in the submarine?
He might be in the submarine.
No, I don't think he's in the submarine.
Do you think it's going to be like...
This is my Emilio Requestavez.
If Kristen McQuarrie is listening,
if you could bring back Emilio Estevez.
Do you think there's going to be like,
Ethan's going to decode something
and it's going to say,
Hasta lasagna, don't get any on you.
And they're all just like,
oh my God.
Oh my God.
Now look, this is a man
who took an elevator to the face.
Yeah, he really did.
He got the classic elevator spikes through the brain.
So you think he survived this.
Yes.
And he's become like a Bond-like.
Yes.
Or even beyond that.
Yes.
But just a man with no, like his physical form is ruined.
Well, his face is ruined.
His face is ruined.
I think the rest of him's fine, but his face is messed up, man.
And he's plugged into the internet and he's going.
Not even. I think maybe he's just a the internet and he's going. Not even.
I think maybe he's just a, or.
He's just sitting at big monitors.
Or, look, I would be happy with, look,
I'd be happy with a new thing that surprises me, if I'm honest,
but I would also be happy with he is dead,
but some code he wrote back in the 90s is the basis of this.
Okay.
And he's in it somehow.
Well, that would, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me
if there is some kind of callback to that because there's a lot
of callbacks in this 2-1 and the origins of Ekelhunt.
Ekelhunt?
Fecalhunt.
Oh, no.
Ethan Hunt.
But one thing that I thought it could be, and maybe it still could be,
is that the villain Gabriel, who was the guy who shot tom
cruz's original love because he churns through women yeah anonymous lady anonymous lady is that
i think it's a i think she gets a title credit well probably probably yeah anyway she's probably
a real person yeah she's almost certainly also elsa dies in this which is very sad and whatever
from frozen from frozen yes oh my god uh yeah that. Yeah, I was like, oh, that sucks.
She's really good in these movies.
Mariella Garriga as Marie, a woman from Ethan and Gabriel's past
seen only in brief flashbacks.
She is in the title sequence.
Oh, okay.
I mean, maybe it's a case of she filmed it and died.
No, but I'm saying the fact that they filmed so much of it,
contractually she has to get a title credit.
She'd think that would be in.
Yeah.
Because she doesn't speak.
You'd think it would be anyway.
She's just like, ah, and then she's shot.
Anyway, I thought Gabriel, there was a chance that whoever that guy is,
he's long dead and the entity has brought this guy back from the past
and just putting the mask on like multiple people.
So Gabriel is actually like nine different men with different abilities
that the entity is using to get to Ethan Hunt.
That's why he's so good at sword fighting and et cetera.
I was like, who is this?
It's the dog.
It's clear I'm back early.
I know.
I'm going to manage her.
She's big too.
She's gotten bigger.
Mason, run.
It's getting late yeah
oh yeah
that would explain
why he's good at
martial arts
and he's good at
etc
and you know
the entity is gone
well this is a
this is a face
from your past
that can rattle you
in a way that
nobody else seems
to have been able to
since
but also I can buy
that like
the entity found this guy
because he's the guy that bothers Tom Cruise the most.
But I just think it would be more interesting if he's not real.
You're a real Tom botherer, so we're going to bring you in.
I'm a bother botherer.
I'm a bother botherer.
Just middle name everybody.
I also think there's a chance that Benji is compromised
or will be compromised.
Interesting. Because he's the guy that'sji is compromised or will be compromised. Interesting.
Because he's the guy who's like, I love all my friends.
That's true.
And then the computer's like, well, if you love your friends,
why don't you shoot them for me?
Oh, I want to, though.
Well, you have to.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
It's just like Halo, Benji.
Oh.
Which one?
Bad ones.
I don't know.
It's one of them Master Chief, he goes rogue or whatever.
It's like the show, the TV show they made.
Oh, no, that was bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So It's like the show, the TV show they made. Oh, no, that was bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, so there's a little bit of a retcon.
Yeah.
Which is that the IMF seems to be composed almost entirely
of, like, ex-criminals.
They've gone the route of, like, well, if you're good at crime,
you're probably also good at saving the world.
Yeah.
A little bit of that.
If you want.
Yeah.
And also a lot of them appear to be like sleeper agents basically.
Right, yeah.
Like he meets one at the start who's just delivering seemingly.
He probably isn't just an Uber Eats guy or whatever.
But maybe a lot of them just do that.
They do a job.
Maybe he doesn't pay enough.
Maybe he doesn't.
Maybe he doesn't pay a living wage.
Maybe you should unionize IMF agents.
It'll be tricky because you're all in masks and none of you know
who the other guys are.
Yeah, nobody will believe you when you come forth.
Yeah.
And be like, Kittredge would pay me more.
That's a good point.
Kittredge is not his boss anymore, I think.
Kittredge is the director of the CIA now.
Yeah, just another guy.
Yeah, but also I get the sense in this that, as they mentioned,
like the IMF don't really answer to anybody or sometimes not at all.
Yeah, that's a bit fake.
It seems to be they answer to the president.
Yeah.
Okay. Oh, and here's a bit fake. It seems to be the answer to the president. Yeah. Okay.
Oh, and here's a question for you.
The opening sequence in the airport, Benji has to-
Hey, Jack.
That's Joe Biden.
Corn Pop was a bad dude.
He's sending messages.
Oh, okay, right.
Just random, like, scramble brain nonsense.
So Gabriel is going-
So the team want to get the key.
The guy who has the key is going to get on a plane.
So Gabriel puts a bag that's going to go on the plane.
Yeah.
The bag seemingly contains a nuclear bomb.
And they're like, well, that's going to blow that guy up and whatever.
Benji defuses the bomb by answering a bunch of riddles.
It knows who he is.
That's when I got the sense that, like, this is going to fuck Benji up.
But then there's nothing in it.
Yeah.
What was the point of the bomb?
Because I don't think it wants to actually like nuclear bomb everybody.
Interesting.
I think it is the thing where it is trying to save the world
and make the world better and it's using Gabriel who's like an agent of chaos.
But then we'll dispose of him when the time suits.
With a nuclear bomb?
With a nuclear bomb.
Interesting.
I can meet it.
Hit this bomb or I'll kill somebody. Maybe. I don't know. I'll kill somebody you like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. I can meet it. Hit this bomb.
Or I'll kill somebody. Maybe.
I'll kill somebody you like.
I'll find something you like.
That's right.
I don't know what it is yet.
So there's a moment where also they're on a train
and Hayley Atwell's like, I'm going to earn my freedom
by putting on a mask and whatever.
That's right.
That kind of felt pointless because she was trying
to get Kittredge to clear Hayley Atwell but pretending
to be Vanessa Kirby.
Okay.
And I feel like even though she didn't get away with it
because they figured it out, she would have left the room
and then the real Vanessa Kirby would have been like,
what just happened?
And then all of that is void.
Like I don't think that means.
Right.
It's just kind of like.
But she did do the classic of like, next time I see you,
I probably won't even remember.
So don't bring it up.
Yeah, like in a minute from now because I'm one carriage away.
Also, I'm going to switch clothes real quick.
Yeah, and eye color.
Yeah.
So, you know.
Yeah.
But how did you feel about it?
So Tom Cruise gets onto the train in this by doing a big jump and parachuting.
Yeah, yeah.
Did he mean to crash through the window and kill that guy?
Was that an accident?
That seemed like an accident, right?
Felt like an accident, yeah.
Yeah.
Could have killed anybody.
I feel like the later movies especially,
they want to humanise him a little bit by giving him an element
where he really gets winded really bad.
Yeah.
So that was that one and the bit where he has to figure out the car.
There's some in the previous movies as well.
Yeah, there's a few movies where he has a heart attack.
Oh, yeah, he has that heart attack that time and technically dies, I guess.
Twice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's two separate movies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I like all of that, I guess. Twice. Two separate movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I like all of that. How do you feel,
I know we briefly mentioned it, but the death of Elsa,
how do you feel? That speaks to like, again,
like, Ethan, you protect the people you love,
but sometimes you can't. He's like, but I will protect you.
And she's like, but you didn't protect that other
woman who was stabbed on a bridge or whatever.
He's like, yeah, but this time I'm going to fly through the window on a jetpack
or whatever. That's right.
Well, I mean, I would have liked to see Elsa.
But, I mean, I would have liked to see her live.
That's the point of the death is that you like her.
That's exactly right.
If I felt nothing for that character and she died, I'd be like, eh.
You're saying they should have killed Benji.
Yes.
That's right.
Yeah, cool.
I like how Luther was just like, I'm going to go and try and do some coding.
You won't see me for the rest of the Mission Impossible.
Also, I am not going to stand up for the remainder of this series.
I'm just going to be sitting down.
Good.
Wearing a hat and sitting down.
I was going to say, when I saw the trailer for Mission Impossible
Dead Reckoning Part 1, and Ilsa has the eye patch on, I'm like,
oh, she lost an eye in some sort of skirmish or paintball or something.
Oh, what it really is is funny.
Well, when I watch the movie, I'm like, oh,
maybe it's some sort of technique that a sniper uses to get better aim
or what have you.
But then I watch an interview, which I think you've also seen,
in which she reveals that Rebecca Ferguson had to wear an eye patch
because she can't wink.
On either eye.
In either eye, she can only blink, it turns out.
So Macquarie had to rustle up an eye patch real quick
because they were like, okay, now squint through the sniper scope
and she's like, all right, but my thigh's open.
That's wild.
Yeah.
Why couldn't she just blink then?
Some people can't.
No, but why can't she just blink and put one eye in the sky?
And they see your eye or whatever?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
This is cooler.
She's got the best looks, man.
That's true.
What a cool look.
It's like a solid snake situation.
I mean, she doesn't have Shea Whigham hair, but alright.
Alright, calm down, idiot.
Anything else before we talk some
reviews that people have sent in?
Oh, the train's falling
and they're jumping from carriages. Terrific, I love that.
That was really good. Very Nathan Drake.
Oh yeah. Which was the best movie of
last year. Yeah, I think that was my
that was probably my favourite stunt sequence.
I mean, there's obviously like CGI in that. Yeah, yeah. But also again, I think, was probably my favourite stunt sequence. I mean, there's obviously like CGI in that.
Yeah, yeah.
But also, again, I think, you know what?
The motorcycle off the cliff into the, the very idea of it,
the motorcycle off the cliff and into the parachute thing,
truly insane.
The fact that he kept doing it like however many times
and at any moment he could have like got his foot caught
in the motorcycle and plunged to his death is insane.
Yeah, we love that.
Yeah, but also, again, the fact that it was on digital,
like you could –
There's a moment also where it's got like –
Because they had to –
Where like there's a GoPro on him.
Oh, yeah.
And that kind of looks a bit strange.
Yeah, yeah.
But I think watching it on YouTube, I'm like, wow, that does feel –
it does feel insane.
Different on the screen.
But on the big screen, when they had to composite out the ramp,
it did feel like he's just motorcycling up to nowhere.
But, yeah, the sequence in the train where all the train carriages
are falling off the cliff, that was great.
Incredible.
And they had to keep jumping from carriage to carriage.
It's a real Nathan Drake, Tom Holland situation. situation absolutely here's some reviews that people wrote in mason
this one's from shane who says i think it's safe to say that movies are back baby great just having
just watched mission impossible dead reckoning nate says like all two partners this year mission
impossible seven feels stretched thin and exposition heavy but enough action worthy of
best movie ever tigra says def best movie ever. Tigress says, deaf best
movie ever. Seen it twice already. Big stunts, big
fights, big everything. Tom Cruise continues to
be equally entertaining and terrifyingly intense
and Jacob says, has shown us
that the excitement of cinema isn't dead. Best
movie ever. I'm very much looking forward to the
follow up of this. We've already seen a little bit of footage
with the biplane where Tom's like, come and see
a movie or I'll kill myself.
And then he flies off or whatever. If you don't come and see a movie where I'll kill myself, you know, and then he flies off or whatever.
If you don't come and see a movie where I attempt to kill myself,
I'll kill myself.
It looks like he's growing his hair out for the next movie also,
which I'm a bit embarrassed about.
He's like, time to go back to the old me,
Mission Impossible 2 style, anime hair.
Anime hair, yeah.
So that movie has also shut down production, I believe,
because of the strikes.
But that's movies.
It's supposed to be coming out next year, but we'll see.
What is coming out next year?
We just don't know at this point.
Some things.
Yeah.
I mean, it wouldn't put it past them if they just released
that 25-minute cold opening sequence as like Dead Reckoning Origins.
Not a bad idea.
Anyways, all in all, they've made a good movie.
I want to know what Hideo Kojima thinks of this movie.
I don't know if he's seen it yet. Let's have a look.
He'll write something. Because the worst thing you can,
the worst thing, I don't know if people follow Hideo
Kojima on Twitter,
but he will often review a movie
and he'll
put up some photos and he'll talk about how much
he liked it, but if he hated it, he won't say
anything. He'll just be like, saw this,
nothing else, and you're like, ooh, kiss of death. Ooh. Kiss of death. I don't know if he hated it, he won't say anything. He'd just be like, saw this, nothing else, and you're like, ooh, kiss of death.
Ooh.
Kiss of death.
I don't know if he has, but that's life sometimes, you know?
That's right.
Don't say anything.
Yeah, I'm just having a quick look now.
But no, nothing yet.
What's he up to?
Hideo Kojima is the director of the Metal Gear Solid franchise,
for people who don't know.
Are you telling me that because I don't know?
Yeah.
Thank you for telling me.
You're welcome.
And now I know.
Should we move on to the next segment of the show?
Yes.
What is it?
It's called What We Reading.
What We Gonna Read.
Perfect.
What's Sweet Relief?
I'm doing a thing.
What are we reading today?
What are you doing?
That's a great question.
You know what's coming out in Australia middle of this week?
A pavlova.
No.
A lamington.
Maybe.
A hat with corks on it.
You know, up until that last one, you were very correct
and you were very actually on theme because it's season two of The Bear.
I've already watched The Bear.
Yeah, you would have.
Because you stole it off the internet?
No.
How did you see it then?
VPNs.
That's stealing it off the internet.
I disagree.
It's actually very good season two as well. Oh, is it? Okay, great That's stealing off the internet. I disagree. It's actually very good
season two as well. Oh, is it? Okay, great. Yeah, a lot of people are like
oh, it's so very good. Wow.
No, no one's saying that and it is good.
It's a good series.
I want to watch that. I don't know why they're doing this.
I assume it's because they wanted to get the entire season out
before they put it on Disney+.
But it's coming out on Disney+. This week
I'm going to watch it all. I'm going to have a great time.
I mean, sure, I've got to go see Barbie and Oppenheimer, but I'm going to watch The Bear
too because I thought it was-
What day is it out this week?
Wednesday, I think, the 19th.
Oh, my God.
That's great news.
Yeah, well, that was my thing that I was- I watched The Bear season two.
Very intense.
And what's interesting is it's very intense about things that I don't care about.
Oh, yes.
It's like, this restaurant's good, and I'm like, ultimately, I don't care, but I like
your tattoos. What if you were going going i like how cool you are are you is that because
you're not invested because you know that restaurant isn't actually real yeah and you
can't go and visit it was a real restaurant i would care immensely that's not actually true
no i think you wouldn't go there because it doesn't look like anything on the menu you would
like i like all of that stuff i like a fancy food you just like protein shakes that's not true if
i'm going out you know what I fucking hate, Mason?
What's that?
I hate when you go to an average restaurant for no reason.
Oh, yeah.
I like fine, not even fine.
Fine's the wrong word.
I like dining experiences with good hearty food.
Wow.
Which put a bit of love into it, Mason.
Like a McDonald's.
Not necessarily.
Interesting.
But you know, just not this bog standard shit.
I live in the suburbs.
There's fucking nothing here, mate. I'm dying. I'm drowning in terrible food, Mason. I live in the suburbs. There's fucking nothing here, mate.
I'm dying.
I'm drowning in terrible food, Mason.
I just want to go to a good restaurant.
Oh, yeah.
You know what Claire said to me once?
The absolute goal.
She goes, you don't even like food.
And I'm like, how fucking dare you?
She's like, you don't appreciate food like I don't appreciate food.
And you know what I said?
I said, you don't appreciate the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Oh, no.
Oh, no, you said it.
I said it. Wow. Yeah. Look, she doesn't appreciate the Marvel cinematic universe oh no oh no you lost it i said it wow oh yeah look she
doesn't appreciate the marvel cinematic universe but i also think your taste buds are dead that's
not true because i love awesome food yeah i just don't eat like a bunch of like junk all the time
not even junk just nothing food you know what i mean you're going to get a meal and you're like
this was whatever what a waste should have just eaten four boiled eggs.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Anyway.
That's pretty good.
What's next?
That's a good question.
Did I watch anything else, though?
I don't know.
You watched My Adventures of Superman yet?
No, I haven't seen that yet.
I want to watch that.
Me and my mate Superman or whatever it's called.
Yeah.
That's pretty good.
Oh, I've been watching your YouTube channel.
He's an Australian guy.
His name is Stam Fine.
Stam Fine?
You'd be like, is it Stan Fine?
No, it's Stam Fine.
But he does like-
Doctor Who?
Yeah, he does like a lot of retrospective reviews of stuff.
Some of it's SEO based like us.
So he'll do like Indiana Jones, et cetera.
Disgusting.
But also he'll cover what I call a bunch of crap.
Yeah.
So like he'll talk about like old series that I've always heard the names of,
but I don't understand what they are, like Blake Seven or like Captain Scarlet.
You know, some of these old –
I'm looking at all this stuff.
I'm like, what is this stuff?
Some of this old stuff, exactly.
Or like Manimal or like, you know, any of those –
Oh, The Towering Inferno.
I'm going to add that one to my list.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's – yeah, it's, you know, pretty fun stuff.
And he covers your basics and he does all, you know,
little jokes and he talks about the production and stuff.
We've done one on Zardos.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's all this sort of stuff.
Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.
Oh, yeah.
And what else?
He'll cover, like, you know, like some of your big stuff,
like your Knight Riders and so forth.
Yeah.
But some stuff like, oh, what's the other one?
There's one about an auto man, which is about like a Tron. He's like an AI auto man which is about like a tron he's like a
he's like an ai guy from the 80s okay and he's like a tron guy in real life blake seven is this
is this like red dwarf no it's well i suspect red dwarf got some um inspiration from it is it a
comedy no it's it's a drama oh because it looks like shit yes that's right that's fascinating
yeah yeah but that's like, it is British though.
Oh, no, I know.
You can tell from the production quality and design.
Yeah, yeah.
But it also has that, I watched that one.
It's very interesting.
It's like seven.
They're like a band of rebels fighting.
It's a very Star Wars-y kind of thing.
Well, one of them is wearing the Han Solo clothes.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And also they, but they do the Star Trek thing of like,
they have teleporter devices because it's cheaper than cheaper than it's cheaper than walking from one
room to another it's cheaper than having to build a shuttle and show the shuttle going down to a
planet and you know that the shuttle set and the whatever when you can just go through to beam up
and then it just goes and they're back and you know now we're in Battersea now we're in Battersea
by the power station
which is where
the Grebulons are
whatever
you know
yeah
anyway that's a good
that's a good recommendation
I think
track that down I think
yeah
I suspect
what's next then
after that we do
the letters
oh yeah
it's people have sent us
and there's a letters theme
which I have ready to go
yeah
I put the volume up on my phone
because I play it through my phone. And the reason you play it through
your phone is because I actually refuse to play
it through my computer on. Is that correct? Well, not
that I do that anymore, but now Colin, who edits these,
he also refuses. We are
in solidarity against you. Are you forming
a union? Yes. Oh, my God. What are your
demands? Well, you have to keep doing this.
Okay, but I want $1,000. $1,000? Yes. All right,
we'll take $1,000. Okay, great. Done deal. You idiots. No, you give us $1,000. I know, you idiots.
I thought you didn't get what I said, Mason. No, I got it. I'm stupid. That's my bit. I'm
doing stupid. I'm giving you the money. It's good how art imitates life, Mason.
Isn't it though?
It never turns out well when we talk over that.
It never sounds good.
AI could never have done that though.
I agree.
An AI would have said don't do that.
An AI would have done something worse.
That's true.
Mason, if you want to reach the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter or weeklyplanetpod
at gmail.com.
That's right.
Got a letter?
Not yet.
I got a tweet from Deej.
Terrific.
Who says, oh, we talked about this, so maybe we stole it.
Hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
What if Deadpool 3 is Marvel's take on Deadpool kills the Marvel universe,
but instead it's Deadpool killing the Fox universe?
Very possible.
And I've heard also somebody's said, like,
what if the TVA sends Wolverine to kill Deadpool?
Oh. Because he's got that teleporter, Deadpool, and he's like, stop Deadpool from killing all the Fox characters sends Wolverine to kill Deadpool? Oh.
Because he's got that teleporter, Deadpool,
and he's like stop Deadpool from killing all the Fox characters or whatever.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, okay.
Sure, maybe.
Maybe.
It can be anything.
Do you think there'll be a fun Logan reference?
Yes.
Do you think they'll be like, hey, Wolverine,
hope you don't end up old and sad.
Yes.
I think it's also said they take him, according to James Mangold,
well before Logan.
Although he's a younger Wolverine.
You can tell because he looks slightly younger.
He does look slightly younger.
Because of his hair dye.
What have you got, Mason?
Or another one from me?
No, I'll find it.
It's from J.D.
Oh, man.
It's from J.D.
Hashtag weekly planet pod.
Based on your Harrison Ford rundown, I wanted to throw in the Mosquito Coast.
A pretty great performance.
Plus River Phoenix and Helen Miriam.
Keep up the great work.
Now, they've remade that. An Apple Plus with like Justin Theroux. Now they call it the Mosquito Coast, a pretty great performance, plus River Phoenix and Helen Miriam. Keep up the great work. Now they've remade that on Apple Plus with like Justin Theroux.
Now they call it the Mosquito Coast.
Mosquito.
They call it the Mosquito Toast.
Is that an accident?
No, it's purposeful.
That's really good then.
But it's to get around paying residuals to the original writers.
I meant to watch this one of one of the things I watched
from our Harrison Ford-a-thon, which we didn't do.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Mosquito Coast.
Nice.
Here's an email from Justin, and the subject line starts with,
help me convince my wife and family the, so I'm going to read this
and see what it says.
Oh, my God, okay.
Okay, Justin, help me convince my wife and family that I'm funny and clever.
All right.
Here we go.
All right, here we go.
Hey, guys, first I want to give you a thanks for your weekly shenanigans.
No worries. As a sixth grade teacher on break. Oh, guys. First off, I want to give you a thanks for your weekly shenanigans. No worries.
As a sixth grade teacher on break.
Oh, I did that.
About four and a half weeks into my grub era,
the podcast has been something I can look forward to each week
to keep me sane.
My brother, his girlfriend, my wife, and I recently went to see
Mission Impossible.
All of us being huge fans of the series decided to create bingo cards
of our predictions for the movie to determine definitively
who of us is the most Tom Cruise.
Oh, my God. cards of our predictions for the movie to determine definitively who of us is the most Tom Cruise.
Oh my God.
Unfortunately, we seem to have stumbled onto a technicality that none of us are smart or brave enough to make a definitive statement on.
I had on my bingo card, Ethan Hunt is the living manifestation of destiny.
In my hubris, I believe this to be my ace in the hole.
Such a statement is canonically fact in the Mission Impossible universe.
Yeah.
However, early on in the movie, Shea Whigham refers to Ethan
as the shape-shifting, mind-reading embodiment of chaos.
Yes.
While these are completely different statements,
I feel they're similar enough to count.
But our group has found itself at an impasse based on this question.
We need you to step in and tell it like it is.
Oh, man.
I mean, it definitely had those vibes, but I don't know
what you were going for here because, like, were you saying
that that exact line was going to be in it?
Oh, that's true, yeah.
Or were you saying that something along this description?
I'd love to back you up because I appreciate the big swing.
I think we're going with not the exact quote but the concept
of him being the living manifestation of destiny.
But I also feel like the living manifestation of destiny
is the exact opposite of an embodiment of chaos.
See what I'm saying? I mean, an embodiment of chaos. See what I'm saying?
I mean, the embodiment of chaos can also can,
there is something to be said for, like, that will change a destiny.
Oh, yes.
You know, like, destiny can happen to you regardless
and chaos happens to you regardless.
So I think those two do go hand in hand.
Here's another email.
Okay.
So what are we saying?
What are we saying?
I'm saying
Well see here's the thing
I think if we were like
I think if the bingo card had said
Someone in the movie
Yep
Makes a sweeping statement about
The iconic nature of Tom Cruise
Yeah
Slash Ethan Hunt
Yep
I think you would check it off
I agree
But I think
This is too far off the mark.
Because he's gone – because he went, I want this exact line.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think if somebody –
I hate to say it, but I think I agree.
I think if there was a line in it that is like meant to feed the ego
of this character and be like, he's the greatest.
He should be on the $1 bill or whatever.
He'll kiss everybody in this movie.
Exactly.
But I think you've gone too specific.
And that's how if you want to check those bingo boxes,
you've got to go vague.
I completely agree.
So we cannot convince your wife and family that you're funny and clever.
No.
We tried our best.
We think you are, though.
Yeah, but you didn't give us anything to work with.
No.
It's your fault.
Exactly.
This is an email from Kevin.
Kevin?
Subject line, what if he dies?
Who? Hey, James and Mace. Is it me? No.. Kevin? Subject line, what if he dies? Who?
Hey, James and Mason.
Is it me?
No.
Hey, James and Mason, a quick question for you about
totally normal man of average height, Tom Cruise.
Me?
Oh, yeah.
Since all of the stunts he does are pretty dangerous,
do you think they have a plan in place if he dies?
Yes.
Is it Tom's wish that the stunt that kills him goes in the movie
and it just ends, or does Jeremy Renner return and replace him
for the rest of the movie i think there is something in place but tom cruise 100 thinks he's not gonna die yeah and that he's
the center of the universe yeah yeah i have said in the past that i think he's gonna die in space
yeah but you're absolutely right i these are safe as well what they're doing recently as you can
recently uh the uh the website letterboxd went to uh tom
cruz on the red carpet and they did that thing they do with actors where they go hey what are
your four favorite movies yeah and we haven't seen the results of that yet but apparently
he would not say like he would not yeah i'm sure he said something along the lines of oh my god i
love cinema yeah cinema's the best i'm always seeing a movie yeah that's right yeah i love cinema toast crunch sneak into the movie that's right exactly yeah i love i love
action and i love comedy and i love yeah romance and i love every genre i love the flash exactly
and i think it's a similar thing here i think that would be like tom we need to sit you down
yeah and discuss what will happen if you die during a stunt he's like listen thank you for
that first of all thank you for your concern i put the And he's like, listen, thank you for that, first of all.
Thank you for your concern.
I put the movie first also.
That's right.
Thank you for your concern about me.
I'm also concerned about your safety.
Let's talk about you.
And he like, even though there were lawyers there,
like really high-powered lawyers being paid thousands of dollars an hour,
and then all of a sudden they're just outside the room.
And they're like like how did we
how did we and he's in your office yeah that's right yeah yeah he's locked the door he's locked
the door and he didn't and they're like how did and it's the question remains unanswered i bet
mcquarry has some plans i think there are plans i bet the studio has plans but he is he's not he's
not because he's like obviously that's not gonna happen they're like well like, well, obviously, Tom, it's not going to happen.
We will table this for another day.
But they're like, yeah, we're going to put it.
Because often also they'll film the stunt first.
Right, yeah, yeah.
Which is an interesting way to do it.
But it's also, I guess, because then you can just do the rest of the movie
because you train up to that.
That's the hardest thing to pull off.
Because if he's doing like a thousand hours of jumping out of a plane
or whatever, you know, it's, god oh who knows who knows yes anyways from danny boy the pipes the pipes who
says hashtag wicked pun a pod last week's episode was top notch also a perfect snapshot of a man
being very sour because his wife is out of town while his co-worker is trying to be a good friend
and you're doing the i'm doing some sharkers i'm throwing up some sharkers for you. That's my sharkers of respect.
You're holding it together.
That's right.
Claire will be back by next week.
You can tell her all about Oppenheimer and Barbie.
No, I'm going to drag her to both.
Great.
Terrific.
I love that.
She's not interested in either.
Really?
She's like, don't care about Barbie.
Not even the girl movie.
Not even the girl movie.
Oppenheimer.
I've done it again.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Andy's dabbing. Whoa. You're dabbing again. Whoa. Whoop, whoop, whoop. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And he's dabbing.
Whoa.
You're dabbing again.
This time I was dabbing.
Let's see here.
Well, I'm ready to go, Mason.
This is long enough.
Okay.
Enough.
I'm going to do one more email.
I'm South African.
This is long enough.
This is from David.
David?
Dear spam folder, this email was most likely sent to.
Hello.
No, we dodged it.
Yeah, we got you.
I was listening to your latest podcast and heard James name drop Sliders, as the pod
does every now and again to our endless glee.
Sliders is one of those gloriously off-the-rails shows that ever existed, and the thought crossed
my mind that episodes of it might make for some good caravan of garbage content.
If you were to vote an episode or two to unpacking that show, I'd be here for it.
All right.
I'd probably do the dinosaur one.
Uh-huh.
After Jurassic Park came out,
and I'd do one where Jonathan Rice Davies takes a bullet and he dies.
Wow.
Yeah.
I reckon maybe we could do a series on –
I love sliders.
I love so much sliders.
What if we did – at some point maybe we could do a run on, like,
shows from that era.
Yeah.
We could do an episode of sliders, an episode of Xena.
We do maybe an episode of Powerball, which is like our lotto draw,
which would happen just before Sliders went on.
Yeah, for sure.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What else?
We can do an episode on Burjo's catchphrase.
Absolutely.
We could meet him in real life once.
He was really nice.
That's great.
Yeah.
Even though I was half cut, he was very tolerant.
That's cool.
Nice, yeah.
Another episode of Sliders. Yep. Yeah. Any others? Earth 2. That's cool. Nice, yeah. Another episode of Sliders.
Yep.
Yeah.
Any others?
Earth 2.
Earth 2 would be great.
Yeah.
Sure, sure, sure.
Harsh Realm.
What about the show Now and Again?
Yeah, the one where John Goodman
is turned into a big sexy robot.
He wasn't a robot, Mason.
Right.
He wasn't a robot.
It was a man.
He just was in the perfect body.
Yeah, nice.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, John Goodman.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, nice. Very sexy. I was so mad when Goodman. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, nice.
Very sexy.
I was so mad when that ended.
And also I was so mad because they aired it here even though it had already been cancelled.
So I'm like, cool.
Come over for season two.
There isn't one.
Wow.
Yeah.
Brutal.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's all the letters.
I agree.
There's actually more letters.
More than that.
Maybe next week we'll do more letters.
All right, that's the show.
Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast.
I agree. We very much appreciate it.
We're recording this Saturday night, so if any big, big-time news happens Sunday,
sorry we missed it.
We don't care.
Sorry, not sorry.
That's right.
We're glad.
We're glad we missed the big news.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Folks.
Go on, though.
Thank you for liking the show.
Yep. Thank you for subscribing to the show. Yep. Thank you. Thank you for liking the show. Yep.
Thank you for subscribing to the show.
Yep.
Thank you for telling your friends about the show.
Tell your friends.
Specifically this show.
And thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice about this
show.
Oh, my God.
And if you've done that and it's five stars, James might just read it out on the podcast.
Not this week, though.
Not this week, though.
Just kidding.
This one is from Rick Shady, who's given us five stars in his app of choice.
The real Rick Shady?
That's right.
It says, the Machine Gun Callie of podcasts.
Love that.
Oh, the podcast is great.
Both host James and Mason constantly act like they are rock star podcasters in a movie,
not how actual podcasters are.
Just two Zach Braffs from the show No One Watched mixed with the cast of Only Murders.
Keep it up, boys.
We will.
And we're dabbing.
Maybe we should watch it.
Maybe we should do a Caravan of Garbage on Alex Inc. Maybe we should. I don't think we should. This one's from Doodle. Nobody would watch that. No. This one's from Doodle, boys. We will. And we're dabbing. Maybe we should watch it. Maybe we should do a Caravan of Garbage on Alex Inc.
Maybe we should.
I don't think we should.
Nobody would watch that.
No.
This one's from Doodle Sir.
Same thing.
In app.
Five stars.
Nice.
Good podcast.
Got me through the pandemic.
Thank you, funny Aussie men, for the parasocial relationship.
You're very welcome.
And I think it's a real relationship.
I agree.
Go on.
Folks, if you want to get into contact with us,
you can go to weeklyplanetpod at Gmail, at Facebook, at Twitter, at Bandcamp.
Let's see.
You can go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group.
You can go to the Weekly Planet Podcast subreddit and Discord.
If you want to follow some people in the socials, first follow Rob Collings.
He is your big-time source for big-time Weekly Planet podcasting news.
There's a very specific moment in the podcast that he will tell you about it.
You might know when it is.
You might know.
He might also be very busy editing this podcast, doing the socials.
That's right.
Moderating the forums, doing pretty much everything.
Practicing his big karate kicks.
Oh, my God.
He's got a big tournament coming up.
That's right.
Yeah.
He's looking to kill this year.
Sweet Tommy.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
This anybody, though.
It could be a judge.
Oh, yeah. Member of the audience. It could be a judge. Oh, yeah.
Member of the audience. It could be someone in the car park afterwards. I don't know.
That's right. Anyway.
The guy in the drive-thru at McDonald's on the way
out.
But if you want the big news on that,
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Yeah.
James is MrSundayMovies everywhere.
This is all in the episode description.
One can only hope.
I agree.
Also, thank you to Maisie and Fidel and Sarabi
who do all the moderation over at the Planet Broadcasting
Great Mass Effect group.
They're doing a great job.
Among many other tasks.
That's exactly right.
Doing the TikToks.
Doing the Weekly Planet clips channel on YouTube.
That's right. And the suggestible socials.
My goodness. All of these things, yeah.
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early videos, all sorts of stuff. This week it's my least favourite thing
Oh it's a clickbait episode
We got this covered
My favourite thing happened last week and it's all still up there
there's thousands of hours of stuff. It's the Time Machine
commentary from 2002
Some people are calling it the best commentary we've ever done
People are enjoying it a lot
which is very nice of them to say
I can't remember what we talked about
but it is the Guy Pearce starring the Time Machine directed by an actual descendant of H.G. Wells.
That's right.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, very fun stuff.
I remember having a lot of fun recording it.
That's right.
But there's video game Let's Plays and a bunch of stuff up there.
That's exactly right.
There's another video game Let's Play next week.
That's right.
Let's see.
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All right.
Next week, Barbie and Oppenheimer.
It's Oppenheimer week.
We're going to do it.
We are.
Is this all going to end in a big explosion?
Yes.
Or is it going to fizzle out and something to do with Barbie?
Yeah, something to do with Barbie.
It's really good.
Contrast.
Contrasting.
That's the fun of this is they're contrasting movies.
Yes, that is the fun.
We enjoy that.
We enjoy it.
Yeah.
Thanks, everyone.
Grabbed our gym, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
Can't believe you brought contrast into this podcast.
It's themes, you know. Yeah. I don't week. Can't believe you brought contrast into this podcast. It's themes,
you know?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just don't think we should do that.
Should we go on strike in solidarity?
With what?
I mean,
what do we strike?
We don't,
nobody owns this.
Yeah,
that's true.
It's ours.
Yeah.
But wouldn't it be good to stick it to us for once?
Oh my God,
it really would. The contrast.
How about we go on strike and then we hire two scabs,
but the scabs are us.
Love it.
Yeah.
And we switch roles?
No, same.
Oh, damn.
Okay, bye everyone.
Bye.
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