The Weekly Planet - 495 One Piece & The Rotten Tomatoes Scandal
Episode Date: September 11, 2023Remember the time Netflix made an anime adaptation and people didn't immediately start crying and vomiting? That's right it was last week with the release of One Piece Season 1. In addition to review ...that we talk the big Rotten Tomatoes scandal, big monetary losses for Warner Brothers, Sam Raimi potentially directing Avengers: Secret Wars, Marvels What If Season 2 episodes revealed, Taylor Swift breaking records, trailers for Gen V, Godzilla Minus One, a new Pirates Of The Caribbean movie and more! Thanks for listeningThe Flash movie commentary out now on bigsandwich.co - also featuring bonus weekly shows, video let's plays, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start05:11 Big Losses at Warner Bros.15:30 The Rotten Tomatoes Scandal26:31 Sam Raimi for Avengers: Secret Wars29:15 Marvel’s What If? Season Two Episodes33:58 Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour Box Office Success35:24 Gen V (The Boys Spin-Off) Trailer38:48 Godzilla Minus One Trailer40:29 No One Will Save You Trailer43:06 New Pirates of the Caribbean Movie?45:51 One Piece Live Action Series Review (post credits and spoilers 01:01:11 to 01:04:01)01:04:01 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:15:40 Letters, It’s Time For Letters (Feat. Ahsoka Episode Four Review)James' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back, everybody, to the Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday.
And with me as always, my guy, I think Mason.
Hey.
It was too normal.
So I had to be like, whoa, I'm crazy also.
That was crazy too, actually.
Yeah.
So now I have to be more normal.
Yeah, you've got to be more normal.
Because I think when there's a duo, people require like a contrast, don't they?
Exactly.
So you've decided to be wild and crazy guy today.
Yeah, that's right.
Now, normally I'm wild and crazy guy.
It's true.
So you're going to have to really ramp it up, I think.
Okay.
Yeah.
Whoa.
All right, that's too far.
If you could.
I'm leaning on my chair.
Damn, dude, that's dangerous.
Stop it.
I actually do love leaning on my chair, legit.
Clay's always like, stop leaning on your chair. You're going to fall over and bash your head.
And I'm like, I haven't yet, have I though?
Like in the kitchen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
No, I've been in that. That's dangerous, man. I know.
But I do it. I'm calling the
cops on you, man. What? For what? For being
dangerous. You could crack your head.
I'm crazy. So you take
two legs of the chair
off the... Sometimes, yeah.
Damn, dude.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's from my school days.
Wow.
Teachers were always like, don't land in your chair.
And I was like, fuck you.
Like I said that under my breath.
James, I'm going to have to take wild and crazy guy from you today
and take it back because my wild and crazy...
It's getting out of hand?
Yeah, it's getting out of hand.
I've given you too much power and I'm going to be a very sane
and normal and sensible, wild and crazy.
Okay, all right.
Like a responsible level.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Whoa, dudes.
Surfing after the show?
Sensibly.
Maybe in a wave pool?
Wet suit, life jacket,
that little cable that attaches your leg to the board.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you always have the cable.
It's also a boogie board.
It's not a surfboard.
Okay, cool.
Terrific.
So this week we are going to talk about the live action One Piece series.
Yeah.
But leading up to that, we've got a bunch of news,
including some updates in terms of how Warner Brothers are doing
in relation to profits and losses this year.
Interesting.
But, you know, they're looking at the writer's strike and they're going,
this is why we're not doing well. And, you know, they're looking at the writer's strike and they're going, this is why we're not doing well.
And, you know, we'll talk about it.
We're also going to talk about some stuff that's been cancelled
over at Warner Brothers.
Uh-oh.
We're also going to get into a big Rotten Tomatoes scandal
from this week.
That's right.
I saw that.
It's not like so much specifically Rotten Tomatoes,
but it's how it can be gamed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll get right into that.
And who is to blame for all the bad scores that your favourite movies might be getting for it? be gamed. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get right into that. And who is to blame for all the bad scores
that your favourite movies might be getting for a TV show.
That's right.
Exactly.
We're also going to talk about who the top choice seems to be
for Secret Wars.
What do you mean?
Like the director.
Did I say that?
Oh, no, you didn't say that.
Who's the top choice?
The top choice, yeah.
For audience?
Yeah.
They're vetting the audience now.
That's right.
You're not allowed in.
You're going to pass a test. They're going to ask you a quiz. Yep. They're going to ask you a series of quiz're vetting the audience now. That's right. You're not allowed in. You're going to pass a test.
They're going to ask you a quiz.
Yep.
They're going to ask you a series of quiz questions about all the previous movies.
And all you have to say is, they're great.
They're great.
Yeah.
I love them.
When you did your driving test, was there like-
Do you like driving?
It's great.
I love it.
You passed.
They did like, when I did it, they did like a little electronic thing
where it's like a simulator.
Yeah, I did do that, yeah.
But the driving instructor was just like,
just wait two seconds and push the button.
They're all the same.
Just wait two seconds and push the button.
Yeah, yeah, it was that, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Because it was also like early 2000s-ish, you know what I mean?
So the touchscreen technology was not quite there, was it?
Yeah.
I remember I got.
Don't drive directly into the truck.
Just, just hit the brakes.
I lost a bunch of points on the test.
Yeah.
Not drop.
Like I got downgraded.
I still passed.
Okay.
Because it started bucketing down and I came to a roundabout.
Oh, this is in real life.
This is in real life.
And I couldn't see.
Yep.
Cause it was all like the whole thing fogged up and I had to wait for an unfog and I couldn't see any cars.
And I'm like, oh, you stopped unnecessarily.
Ooh. Yeah. And I'm like, fuck you and i'm like fuck you like is your breath yeah
but i passed so i was like whatever like who cares but yeah well i think about that and i'm
like that's unfair i was being said what just drive out i'm a maniac yeah i'm a crazy no i'm
not anymore am i you're not allowed You used up all your crazy points.
I'm downgrading.
So far, you're still going to pass.
Okay, cool.
But you've lost some points.
We've got names for every episode of What If coming up.
Oh, do we?
Okay.
Those have come out. I saw a list maybe yesterday.
Yeah.
And they looked badly structured.
They are bad, yeah.
Okay, the titles look very badly structured.
I'm like, this seems fake.
They might just be like ideas, I guess.
Placeholders, yeah.
Placeholders, yeah.
We're going to talk a little bit about Taylor Swift again,
the big show that's happening.
I love that.
Are we...
Yeah, we're pivoting.
We're pivoting to Taylor Swift content?
It's incredibly popular.
The Swifty Planet?
That's where we go.
The Swifty Planet's good because we can talk about Taylor Swift
and also stealing things from stores.
Oh, yeah.
That's big at the moment, isn't it?
Yeah, that's right.
I've seen it in a lot of videos like that.
It's hot tips on stealing.
Trailers for Gen V, a new Godzilla movie, and No One Can Save You.
Another Pirates movie is maybe happening.
The Pirates of the Caribbean ones, and then One Piece, of course.
Let's start off with this.
Oh, there's time codes below.
Colleen's who edits this.
He's happy enough to sort it, I assume.
For now. For now.
For now, yeah.
This is my deadline.
So Warner Brothers Discovery said on their Monday, September 5th meeting
that the company is looking to lose approximately $300 million to $500 million
in EBITDA, which is earnings before interest taxes, depreciation,
and amortization.
Because you might be like, why?
Is it because they had a series of bombs?
I don't need to know.
No?
Okay, this is for everybody else.
Okay.
Because Barbie did well.
Yes.
But then most of their other properties have bombed.
Like Shazam bombed, The Flash bombed, Blue Beetle bombed.
The movie Air, one of the shoes.
They're like, we've got to make this shoot for Michael Jordan
or he'll kill us.
That kind of tension in that movie.
Yeah.
It's really like high stakes and it's like,
it's just a shoe relax.
And we know you made the shoe.
Yeah.
You made it.
A lot of us are wearing that shoe currently.
So yeah,
that's right.
So,
um,
did they make the shoe?
Hang on.
I'll just look down.
They did make the shoe.
I can leave.
I can leave now.
They made at least two.
Yeah,
that's right.
So, uh, they made two size eights. They did make the show. I can leave. I can leave now. They made at least two. That's right. So.
They made two size eights.
They didn't fit Michael Jordan and he was bad.
So the suggestion was from David Zaslav,
John and the Warner Brothers,
that it's not to do with any of the properties.
It was specifically the ongoing writers and actors strike is costing them money.
That must hurt.
Yeah.
I can only imagine.
I mean, it's not costing him money personally.
He's making like 500.
He's making about that amount of money in bonuses and so forth.
Insane, right?
So, yeah.
In a lot of ways, they could essentially eliminate that loss by not giving him his $200 million bonus
or whatever it is.
Like that would cut out a huge chunk of that.
I think you might be right.
Now you think about it.
It is weird how it doesn't work like if a studio does poorly.
They're just like, here's your $100 million for the year.
That's wild.
Like what job is it where like really bad stuff actually,
here's more money.
Yeah.
Well, it's a kick in the can down the road situation, isn't it?
It is, isn't it?
Like I don't want to get too deep into it, but the next quarter, you know, the quarterly report, it's like, well, we's a kick in the can down the road situation, isn't it? It is, isn't it? Like, I don't want to get too deep into it,
but the next quarter, you know, the quarterly report,
it's like, well, we cut all these costs, here's your money.
Yeah.
Like, it's whoever gets caught holding the bag in, like, five years
when there's no more to cut and they're not making any money.
It's like a webmaster pushed through Brexit, you know what I mean?
Kick in the can down the road.
That's right.
Until eventually, like, I can't believe this person botched Brexit
or whatever.
And it's like, this is all rotten, like, through and through.
Yeah.
Anyway, enough Brexit talk, if you don't mind, Mason.
I don't know why you brought that up.
Let's move on to this in a segment of the show called
Cancelled More Like Schmanceled, as in cancelled.
Here's some things that were cancelled this week by a deadline.
Cancelled More Like Schmanceled, as in cancelled?
I like that.
That's good.
That's catchy.
We could put on a T-shirt.
Definitely.
If you get cancelled, which is very common these days,
you could buy the T-shirt.
Certainly, yeah.
I think that's a little catchy.
If you're in celebrity jail.
Yeah, like real jail.
Real jail, you could wear it in there.
Yeah, absolutely.
They'd probably give you your own clothes, like different clothes.
But, yeah, if you're allowed to bring in your own T-shirt,
you could potentially wear that.
Yeah.
Now, look, we do give you an Orange Prison Jump Super. You are allowed to in your own T-shirt, you can potentially wear that. Now, look, we do give you an orange prison jump suit,
but you are allowed to wear your own T-shirts.
You're allowed to pick a slogan T-shirt.
You can reveal at opportune moments, for example.
Some people go with the better out than in.
That's fun for prison.
Sure, sure, sure.
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila floor.
That's a good one, yeah.
Kiss the chef you could go with, for example.
Where's the beef? That's a good one, yeah. Kiss the chef you could go with, for example. Where's the beef?
That's a classic.
Kiss the chef as in the guy who learned to cook steak
on a toilet or whatever.
That's right.
Well, that's what it says on the back.
It says toilet chef man, but you can't tell
because you're wearing the jumps.
Anyway, that's not porn.
That's right, yeah.
So anyways, this is my deadline.
Warner Brothers Television has moved in to suspend
the remaining overall deals with some of its top creators.
Oh, no.
This is a cost-cutting measure because I don't know if you know because of the writer's strike, they lost $500 million apparently.
Yeah, I heard about that.
Yeah.
I don't know how reliable the source was, but I heard about it.
So the list includes...
Some would say the source often doesn't know what numbers are.
Sure, yeah.
Or what they mean.
Yeah, absolutely.
Unreliable.
Yeah.
A complete, like, skewed concept of reality yeah yeah okay i can see how you think that the
list includes greg belanti productions who started the cw stuff yeah right uh bill lawrence's doozor
productions he's someone scrubs scrubs and that new one oh he did uh extra scrubs extra scrubs
double scrubs you know he did ted lasso but he did shrinking asso, but he did Shrinking as well, I think. Oh.
Which one was Shrinking?
The one where Harrison Ford's like, I'm a gruff psychologist. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Jason Spateman, whatever Jason you are.
Jason Spateman.
That's right.
I'm a rough psychologist.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
Jason Segel.
Thank you.
I think, yes.
Mindy Kaling's Kaling International.
J.J. Abrams' Bad Robot is also in the process of being notified, apparently.
What are they even doing?
In the process?
It's weird because I thought about-
They can't cancel my deal if they can't find me, J.J. Abrams.
I've been trying to-
I was doing some, not intentionally, but just some rough research in a document about what he's been doing since Star Wars.
Because he's gotten numerous very large deals.
Yeah, and things that were in place before that.
Yeah.
It's like, which of the-
What are you- He did that Spider-Man comic with his son
for a minute.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
And I don't, I like, is he laying low?
Like, I don't know.
This is even before the strikes.
Like, what is, what is he up to?
I think he really got like hurt from what happened in the last Star Wars.
Like emotionally?
Yeah, definitely.
I think so.
What do you mean?
Like reputationally?
I think that, and also I think it like, I mean, if you release that
and then that was the response, like even if you were proud of it,
you'd be like, oh, fucked up here, didn't I?
Because I remember I saw an interview beforehand that was like,
we spent a long time trying to figure out how we're going to crack this
and I think we've nailed it.
I think we've actually nailed this ending.
Yeah, interesting.
It's just not that at all.
Yeah, I mean.
That would sting, you know.
And I guess to a certain extent it was a
case of a lot of people didn't like the last jedi so let's let's do a course oh yeah it's not even
just him that's not he came in so late like so late in the day and i think probably i mean you're
probably right but i i imagine the this the situation was well okay this is massive damage
control and you've got to do this and this and this you've got to make everybody happy i guess
to some extent he probably went what's a tough call but i know what i'm doing and i think i can
stick the landing on this yeah because everyone hated it yeah because he did like for the force
awakens i know people like we've talked about it but like it did what it was supposed to do
a lot of people saw it and liked it and i'm not talking like it's just like the other way i know
all that but people if you ask a normal person, they're like, yeah, it was fun or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the Millennium Falcon.
Remember they found the Millennium Falcon?
Yeah.
He brought it back.
Like, he really did.
And it made a shit ton of money.
Yeah.
Which is also because it's Star Wars.
But anyway.
John Wells production.
So he was suspended in June.
He makes Wells.
Yeah, weird.
I don't know why.
But he should make water towers.
Should he not?
Maybe they're connected.
Maybe it's the source of the water in the tower.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
He did like ER and stuff, I believe, and like the West Wing, I think.
Anything in the present day?
Great question.
Let's have a look.
He also might not be any of that.
I might have just imagined.
We might uncover something.
We might uncover a big deal here.
Oh, John Wells, our story.
No thanks.
I'll just go to the Wikipedia.
Here we go.
Early life, et cetera.
Boring.
67.
He looks like a guy who reads Tom Clancy novels.
Nice.
So he has done.
So he did this show called Trinity.
He did Third Watch.
He did The West Wing.
Yeah, obviously.
Southland.
People like that maybe.
Okay.
Animal Kingdom. There you go. Oh, the TV series. Shameless. I should watch Shamland. People like that, maybe. Okay. Animal Kingdom.
There you go.
Oh, the TV series.
Shameless.
I should watch Shameless.
People like Shameless, don't they?
Yes, they do.
The Company Men.
Don't know what that is.
August.
These are films.
August, Osage County.
I know the name, but I've never seen it.
Love and Mercy.
No.
Burnt.
Remember where Bradley Cooper's like,
I'm an important chef.
We're both doing that.
We're both shaking a pan of some sort.
Onions, probably.
Mine had eggs in it for some reason.
Why are you shaking eggs?
I don't know, man.
Mine was sautéing onions.
Okay.
Well, I was sautéing eggs.
We learned that from the bear.
Yeah, that's right.
As of late, he was executive producer on Doom Annihilation.
That was in 2019.
So that was the last kind of movie thing.
That one that looks like a fan film.
On Made?
It was on the, Made was apparently really good.
Like a really like harrowing, yeah, Claire really liked Made.
And there's something that was TBD called Key New Road.
Okay.
I don't know.
Right.
Well, I recognize some of those. Yeah. Like a lot of these are hugeew Road. Okay. I don't know. Right. Well, I recognise some of those.
Yeah. Like, certainly.
Yeah, these are, like, a lot of these are huge.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, suspended.
Oh, good luck, idiot.
Chuck Law's production deal was suspended.
Chuck Loray?
Loray, sorry.
Okay.
The two and a half man guy.
Yes, was suspended in the first wave in May.
So there were waves of this that happened.
So, wait, what May?
Did they strike in May?
I don't know.
It's been, maybe. It's been maybe.
It's been 128, 25?
I don't know.
As long as we're having a good time, which we are.
I think we are.
On this show.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, so there you go.
Yeah.
We're having a wild and crazy time.
It is steady on though.
Not me though.
All your chair legs on the ground.
All of them.
I'm on one leg now.
Oh, come on, mate.
Actually, you're defying the laws of physics there.
Even I don't like this.
No.
But yeah, it's still like, I mean, there was updates about the writer's strike
and the actor's strike this week, but it's just not happening at the moment.
It's still like there were interviews from various studio heads
that just like, well, we hope that it's fair for everybody and whatever.
Sure.
It's completely stored.
We're willing to do anything except pay people so if you want any other
suggestions though we're open yeah maybe a foosball table in the break room oh yeah we can
do that okay yeah and ever all the hundreds of writers can share it yeah maybe some bean bags
oh bean bag imagine being at work but you're on your laptop and you're in a bean bag oh my god
maybe you're in one of those chairs Like that's like an egg
Like hung from the roof
Like half an egg
Egg chair hung from the roof
Yeah
You know
Yeah
The perfect office conditions
I got friends who work in like
Those kind of spaces
And a lot of like
Corporate gigs do that
Like banks
And accounting firms
And whatever
And like roving desks
And they're like
It's a fucking nightmare
Sounds that way
Because like
You don't know where you're going to sit.
You've got to book every room.
You don't have, like, a place to, like, put all your stuff.
And if they rotate your desk all the time,
you can't put your little bobbleheads in there.
Exactly.
What, are you going to put it out and put it there every day?
You'd forget it one day to be gone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Someone put it in the toilet.
Yeah.
Want to cook a steak on it, presumably.
Well.
That's the fuel, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, more rotten tomatoes, more problems. That's what I say right? Anyways, more Rotten Tomatoes
more problems. That's what I say. Oh, that's correct, isn't it?
I botched that, but
you get the idea. Now there's a big
Rotten Tomatoes scandal this week and this was
uncovered by Vulture in an article
titled The Decomposition
of Rotten Tomatoes.
Now they're making the claim
that Bunker 15, which is a PR
firm I've never heard of,
have been deliberately manipulating the Rotten Tomatoes scores for multiple movies.
The one they're talking about specifically was a 2018 Hamlet retelling starring Daisy Ridley called Ophelia.
I've never heard of this.
I remember the release of it.
I remember the stellar reception it got Yes Of 62%
Yeah
And we'll talk about how it got there
Yeah
So what basically they've been doing
Allegedly
Is in response to the most negative criticisms
Of this film in particular
Bunker 15
Allegedly
Allegedly
I like allegedly
Allegedly
I like allegedly
I like it so
Yeah
Contacted a number of self-published critics
Months later
And offered them,
months after it premiered or like can or whatever,
and offered them upwards of $50 to watch and review Ophelia.
More input from different critics.
Exactly.
That's how they framed it.
They didn't say here's $50 and say nice things,
but that was basically it.
In October of that year,
an employee of the company emailed a prospective reviewer
about Ophelia and said,
it's a Sundance film and the feeling is that it's been treated a bit harshly by some critics.
I'm sure sky-high expectations were the culprit, no doubt.
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the teams involved feel like it would benefit from more input, as you said, from different critics, yeah.
The Bunker 15 employee asked about this, said, of course,
journalists are free to write whatever they like,
but that super nice ones often agree not to publish bad reviews on their usual websites,
but to instead quarantine them on a smaller blog that Rotten Tomatoes never sees.
I think it's a cool thing to do.
That is cool.
It's indie.
It's underground.
Yeah, yeah.
So the idea being is if you normally write for a certain publication and you would have said that this movie was bad,
instead you'd start a new blog on Tumblr or something
where you put the reviews of stuff you don't like that gets no traffic.
Perfect.
Yeah, that is perfect.
It's got zero SEO.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, apparently as a result of this, it was originally –
because, you know, a lot of movies do live and die by that rotten score.
I mean, supposedly or allegedly?
There's never been any really extensive research, right?
I mean, I'm sure there would have been, right?
But I don't know.
I think a lot of it is, I mean, it's a number of things.
It's marketing.
It's who's in it.
It's, you know, it depends on what it costs to make.
You know, it's a number of things.
Whether they're ads on buses.
Yes, that's right.
So forth.
That's exactly it.
Now, it climbed, though, Ophelia, to 62%, flipping from cotton to fresh.
And the next month, the distributor, IFC Films,
announced that it had acquired the rights to release it in the US.
So what that also did was basically give that movie enough juice
to get distribution, and which maybe, and I haven't seen it,
maybe it's an amazing movie
and fully worthy of the 62% that it's receiving.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
It might not have happened like that.
So if you look at the box office,
I'm just looking at the box office here,
it made $242,000.
So I don't think any of this really worked anyway.
No, no.
But yeah, that's fascinating.
So Bunker 15 founder Daniel Harlow, he came out swinging.
He said, wow, you are really reaching there.
But he's swinging.
Yeah.
Wow.
You're really reaching there, and if you reach too far and I punch you,
that's actually your fault because I'm just standing here punching.
So I'm not punching you, you're
reaching in front of my punches.
We have thousands of writers
in our distribution list. A small
handful have set up the specific system where
filmmakers can sponsor or pay
to have them review a film. Vulture also
reached out to Rotten Tomatoes and since then the website
has delisted a handful of Bunga 15's
movies, including Ophelia.
Rotten Tomatoes says it prohibits reviewing based on a financial incentive.
I mean, we talk about this every time there's a premiere.
Yeah.
And it's like every, almost exclusively, it's like this,
and it's also comic book movies mostly.
It's like this comic, this has changed the game.
This is the best since The Dark Knight.
Marvel's done it again.
Yeah.
You know, if you love the MCU, they're back on.
It's like that. literally but that is that is also that's a response to i think people going to
the premiere and they get to get a photo with the rock and whatever yeah but then i think as a result
of that then if you after those social media reactions and the reviews come out and then that
i feel like that's for fairly accurate reflection a lot of the time yeah but i mean we all look at
it i mean if you listen to this you you probably look at it, I assume.
Like, we use it.
But I think, look, James, first of all, we're above it all, as you know.
We see the whole plan.
I think we look at the Rotten Tomatoes score, and I think-
We look at the user reviews.
That's exactly right.
Psychos.
But I think it's, like, the interesting thing I think about the critics' reviews versus
the user reviews, I think it's pretty apparent generally
if it has a really low critic score and quite a high user score.
Yeah.
You can divine the real like the –
Batman Superman.
Yeah, well, exactly.
It's the idea of like, okay, well, obviously it's fans who are super hyped
to see a certain thing.
It's very much a franchise thing, and they're there to have fun,
and it's often the super enthusiastic people who go opening day
or what have you, and then the critics.
Yeah, absolutely.
What I like about this article is there were a bunch of, I think,
interesting quotes about it.
Okay.
One was from Martin Scorsese.
It says about Rotten Tomatoes,
it reduces the director to a content manufacturer
and the viewer to an unadventurous consumer.
And then Brett Ratner says it's the destruction of our business.
Now, Brett Ratner, is Rotten Tomatoes the destruction of your business
or is it the fact that when you go to your Wikipedia page,
there's a whole tab that says sexual assault allegations?
Which one could it be?
You think maybe the thing that's collapsing the industry that is Brett Ratner for Brett
Ratner is the time that he would go to a buffet on a film set and he'd put his hands down
the front of his pants and then touch all the shrimp?
It might be that, yeah.
Which is a thing that he did allegedly.
Yeah, it might be that.
It might be him outing actors or whatever.
Yeah, okay.
It might be those things, just as a funny joke, Brett Ratner.
Maybe it's that.
Maybe it's all the terrible movies he's made also.
It might be the terrible movies he made.
There was one here from Paul – there's a couple here from Paul Schrader.
Okay.
Who is a somewhat controversial filmmaker, but I think generally –
What's he made?
Well, he wrote Taxi Driver.
All right.
And he directed a bunch of sort of Taxi Driver-esque movies.
He directed The Card Counter, which was that?
Oh, I've got to watch The Card Counter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Master Gardner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
American Gigolo 1980.
Okay.
Yeah, I know this guy.
So Schrader said,
The studios didn't invent Rotten Tomatoes and most of them don't like it,
but the system is broken.
Audiences are dumber.
Normal people don't go through reviews like they used to.
Rotten Tomatoes is something the studios can game, so they do.
Yeah, I remember when Rotten Tomatoes first became a thing.
I would go to the page, and I would look at all the good and bad reviews,
and I would click through and read them.
Yes.
But no, I don't do that anymore.
No.
I mean, I do.
I'll skim quotes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But there's another Schrader quote in here somewhere.
I'll find it.
Oh, here we go.
Also, Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Flickstar,
which was acquired by Warner Brothers in 2011.
It used to be Fandango.
So it's a parent.
Yeah.
And now Comcast own it, maybe?
Right.
Great.
No, Warner Brothers retained a minority stake.
Okay.
So, yeah, it's also owned by a bunch of these.
Yeah.
Anyway, I like it. I think it's cool when you go by a bunch of these. Yeah. Anyway, I like it.
I think it's cool when you go there.
It's cool.
Yeah.
I'm going to find it.
Give me one second.
I'm going to find it.
Okay.
One second's up.
Come on, mate.
Come on.
Come on, mate.
Just frying up these onions while I'm waiting.
You can cut this out, Collings.
I'm flipping it.
Oh, here it is.
So this is from Schrader again.
Okay.
It says, I read some reviews of my own films where the writer might say
that he doesn't think that I pull something off,
but boy is it interesting in the way that I don't pull it off,
said Schrader, a formal critic, which he was.
To me that's a good review, but it would count as a negative on Rotten Tomatoes.
Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think we try to do that.
We love a big swing and we like the idea that, you know,
we might go, I didn't like this movie, but there was a great scene
or there was a great performance by this guy
or what a great line or a great joke or, like,
what action sequence was good, you know.
It's worth it for that.
This isn't for me, but I can see how, like, yeah,
this would totally work for somebody else, you know.
But it's interesting.
If I remember correctly, don't Rotten Tomatoes contributors get to decide
if their review is fresh or rotten?
Yeah, you do put that in.
You flick a switch, basically.
It's basically like a yes or a no.
Like a thumbs up, thumbs down situation.
But isn't that just the gig economy we live in or whatever?
Isn't it, though?
Isn't it, though?
Yes, it is.
It is, yeah.
Look, the way that I always judge a movie before I see it.
You always judge a movie before you see it? You always judge a movie before you see it?
I always judge a movie before I see it, and I stick to that opinion,
is that there are people that I follow, and often also I don't –
actually, I don't even do this anymore, I would say,
because I don't read reviews before I watch a movie.
Yeah, right.
It doesn't influence me.
But what I would do if I'm not going to see something
or I don't need to immediately review it, I'll just go to those people.
I'll be like, well, I know what they like and I know what I like.
We're not always on the same page,
but at least I know specifically what they're talking about.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
If you're looking for like,
if you're looking for like a idea of what to go into and,
you know,
people that it's expensive.
So,
you know,
you should,
you know,
then that's what I would recommend.
Yeah.
I reckon,
I think that's a good idea as well.
You pick some reviewers that you,
it's not even that they necessarily agree with you
or your taste is the same.
It's that they give you enough information
to know whether you will like the movie or not.
There's a reviewer, I think he's on Uproxx.
He's called Vince Mancini.
Yes.
And I will read his reviews
and oftentimes I disagree with his opinion of the movie.
But I feel like he always gives the amount of information I need
to be like, oh, this will be perfect for me kind of thing.
Absolutely, yeah.
Like Komodo Mayo, I watch, and I'll often watch them now after.
I'll review something.
He also does a podcast with Jack Howard as well,
who I really like as well, his review.
So, yeah, there's a number of people.
But just have a root around.
Have a root around.
Yeah.
Find your own commode in Mayo.
Also, a lot of the stuff that I watch the reviews of much later,
where it can be broken down like six months to a year later and go,
oh, yeah, that's interesting.
I should have thought of that when I reviewed it.
I'll take that and pass it off as my own opinion.
I think that's good.
Upon some reflection, I've thought this.
And by reflection, I mean I listen to Komodo Mayo.
Good times.
Also, Komodo Mayo makes me think of eating mayo on the toilet.
Sure.
I think that's cool.
That is cool.
Yeah.
It's the perfect situation to watch a movie.
Eating jail-made mayonnaise on the toilet.
That's correct.
So this is via My Time to Shine Hello, who says,
sources confirmed that Sam...
This is your current favourite.
This is what's coming up.
Yeah.
He's doing...
She, they, I don't know who this is.
He's doing some big scoops.
Your favourite rat.
That's right.
Confirmed that Sam Raimi is Marvel's top choice to direct Secret Wars.
Now, I think that's great.
I mean, look at the Spider-Man movies he made. I know a lot of people don't think this, Raimi is Marvel's top choice to direct Secret Wars. Now, I think that's great. Yeah.
I mean, look at the Spider-Man movies he made.
I know a lot of people don't think this,
but I think his Doctor Strange movie is really good.
I think so too.
It's a lot of fun and it's fun because it's not all him because there's other things you have to do,
but there is a lot of him in it.
And you don't often get that.
That's true.
In comic book movies or blockbusters in general. Like you see, there's a moment where he's got like a cape of often get that. That's true. You know, comic book movies or blockbusters in general.
Like you see it,
he's got a,
there's a moment where he's got like a Cape of ghouls.
Yeah.
There's just,
there's good,
there's good stuff in that movie.
I think it's probably the strongest movie that there has been in this new,
whatever phase we're in currently.
Whatever we're in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In my opinion,
in this humble critics opinion.
You mean,
you mean commode and Mayo's opinion.
Yeah,
maybe.
It's been exactly six months, James.
What do you think, though?
I think that's a pretty good choice, yeah.
He could do a weird thing as well, you know?
Yeah.
The only secret was his kind.
It can be weird and, like, twisted and broken and multidimensional and whatever.
And also who else they got, you know what I mean?
Exactly.
Who else is left?
Who isn't exhausted?
Who else haven't they burnt out? Yeah. Because you is left who isn't exhausted who else haven't they burnt out
yeah because you need someone who isn't burnt out but so yeah because there's like a and i'm trying
to think like there's a very specific kind of director you need you can't go too young because
then you'll just walk all over them and then it's nothing yeah and but a lot of veteran directors
don't want to do it because of what they are yeah so sam raimi is like a really, he's one of the few that you could go to
and he could probably do a good job.
Yeah.
And I also think that he probably has had that lifelong passion
for making that sort of thing.
And, you know, he did, obviously he couldn't get a superhero movie
back in the day, so he made Darkman,
which was sort of his audition for the Spider-Man movies.
And then he made the ones that are, you know,
generally very well received.
He got burnt by Spider-Man 3.
But then I think he's probably like,
he's someone who probably still wants to make that sort of stuff,
but he wants to do it on his own terms.
Yes.
And he's got enough Hollywood juice.
Yeah.
A term we've invented.
Toilet water.
Toilet water.
That he can probably be like,
I'm only in if you let me do yeah a certain
amount and i'm sure even during google cape yeah i'm sure during the process they're constantly
pushing back definitely and like well this person has to be in it because they got a glove in the
previous movie or whatever you know well this person has to look like this because they're
captain america now or what you know whatever but yeah you know whatever yeah but he would have had
to do that with Spider-Man
and everything else that he's made that's a property.
There you go.
All right.
This is why the Nerd Rage podcast,
here are the potential titles for the What If series,
which is maybe coming out this year.
Great, I love this.
First one is What If Gamora Killed Thanos?
When though?
Right at the end?
About the same.
I'm assuming when she stabbed him in nowhere, but she actually got him.
Oh, sure.
I don't know that.
Or maybe when she was a kid.
Maybe when she was a kid.
Yeah.
What if Captain Carter finds Hydra Stomper?
Now, that's continued from season one.
See, that's where it immediately lost me these times.
What if Captain Carter found Hydra Stomper?
I don't know, man.
Pretty wild.
You mean the little robot thing that Steve Rogers pilots?
I assume he's still in it.
Yeah, sure.
It's the Winter Soldier, basically.
They're doing the Winter Soldier.
But Steve Rogers is the Winter Soldier.
I guess.
I don't know that.
Yeah.
What if the Tesseract landed in, I'm going to butcher this,
Haudenosaunee Confederacy.
So that is the Native American episode,
which is going to have a new superhero.
Yes.
Kihori is the name.
Yeah.
So instead of landing in a Norwegian village or whatever it went,
it goes to here.
Yeah.
What if Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne fought the Red Guardian during the 80s?
Great title. Great title Great title
Really spells it out
Give us something
Really, really
Also like
Really spoil everything there
I feel like that
I don't know
Maybe they'd win or he'd win
Or they'd be a star mate
Or they'd team up
I don't know
Don't you think
Maybe it did happen
In the regular Marvel universe
I don't know
Yeah
Because they were all around then
It should just start with a black screen title card that says,
to be clear, this didn't happen in the regular Marvel Universe.
Could have, but it didn't.
You might look at this and be like, is this just a regular,
is this just a thing that happened?
No, it didn't.
It didn't.
We're saying what if it did?
What if it did, though?
What if it did, though?
Yeah.
Have you seen that deleted scene where it's,
I think it's from Ant-Man and the Wasp, so the second one.
Yeah.
And it's Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, and they're in, like, Columbia,
and there's, like, a...
No.
It's pretty good.
Is it when they're young?
Yeah, when they're young.
They're de-aged.
It's a whole scene.
Are they actually de-aging for it?
Yeah, they've, like, finished it.
I've probably seen it.
It must be on the Blu-ray or something,
but I have only seen it on the Twitters.
Do I have to buy the Blu-ray?
No, you can find it on the Twitters.
I'm rushing out now, Mason.
James, no.
I'm being reckless.
James, no. I'm running too fast. Why are you carrying those pairs of scissors? you can find it on the twitter i'm rushing out now mason james no i'm being reckless james no
i'm running too fast why are you carrying those pairs of scissors stop it james no
a responsible wild and crazy guy wouldn't do that here i've got an instruction manual on
being the cool loose cannon wild and crazy guy i've got all the guidelines here what about this
one read it and answer the quiz if you get it correctly you'll be a licensed wild and crazy guy i've got all the guidelines here what about this one read it and answer the quiz if you
get it correctly you'll you'll be a licensed wild and crazy guy what if yondu delivered star lord to
ego okay did we get that i feel like that's one we already know we got to charla yes with star
lord and peter quill worked at a restaurant or something and then and then he turned up ego
turned up and when you're my son or whatever.
That's a great title, by the way.
But I guess that's not this continuity.
Yeah.
What if Happy Hogan saved Christmas?
Iron Man 3, apparently related.
I like that.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Yeah.
What if Wanda had grown up watching musicals instead of sitcoms?
Oh.
Slightly different, I reckon.
And when you say grow up, you mean they were trapped in that apartment
while the bombings were happening?
While the bombing was happening, yeah, exactly.
What if Odin and Hela had faced Wenwu, who's...
The Mandarin?
The Mandarin?
Okay, sure.
All right.
All right, great.
If you want.
Yeah, sure.
I suspect it would go like that Red Guardian thing
where maybe one wins or the other wins or they team up.
Yeah, that would be great, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
And the last one is what if the Avengers had fought Surtur, which Thor did?
I mean, they'd win handily, I'd imagine, because he did it by himself.
Did he?
Surtur, he beat him the first time.
Remember?
He, like, trapped him in the.
Yeah, but he didn't defeat him, though.
Yes, he did.
He got his helmet off.
He took it off.
Oh, yeah.
And then they let him out at the end.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, okay, you're right.
Pretty good. But it'd probably go a bit differently than that. I took it off. Oh, yeah. And then they let him out at the end. Oh, that's right. Yeah, okay. You're right. Pretty good.
But it'd probably go a bit differently than that.
I reckon.
Anyway.
They'd probably beat him or he'd beat them.
Yeah.
Or they'd team up.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Anyway, maybe.
Delay waste to the earth.
Maybe these aren't real.
I feel like they are, though.
There's been some images that kind of tie into this stuff and maybe someone extrapolated.
Maybe.
So, you know, that's fine.
I just a bit of...
Maybe they saw the...
You know what?
Maybe they saw some thumbnails.
Maybe they did.
Maybe they were preview thumbnails and they went,
oh, what if Captain Carter found Hydra Stomper?
Yeah.
Because she's looking at the Hydra Stomper in the ice or whatever.
She's like, oh.
There is.
Oh.
There is.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Are we going to reveal what those tentacles were?
Or was that Doctor Strange?
Was it a Doctor Gormath or was it a Doctor Strange thing?
Or was it Ultron?
God.
With tentacles?
I don't want to think about it.
Well, too bad.
We're in too deep now.
We can't quit.
You're right.
It's my THR.
Taylor Swift, the Ears Tour.
I wrote Ears Tour, which it might be.
Is happening.
They filmed it in August.
Speaking of an Ears Tour.
Thank you, August.
We're going to talk about that later in One Piece.
Oh, yeah, we are too.
It's an ears tour, isn't it?
It is an ears tour.
Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter
they believe the film could open up
to a record $100 million
based on brisk advanced sales tickets.
That's just in the US.
But they're also not ruling out
that the movie ultimately grows to $150 million
or more domestically.
It's pretty good.
So that would bring it in line with like Mario and Barbie for openings.
Yeah.
I think there could be a chance that this all,
like you get all the Taylor Swift fans and it's like a huge opening
and then a big drop off maybe.
Sure, because everybody sees an opening weekend.
But maybe they come back repeatedly.
Yeah.
This is not an audience that I know.
That's true, yeah.
So I don't know.
I feel like there were people being like Barbie's going to burn out straight away.
And after seeing it, I was like, I don't think so.
I'm a little bit concerned that we've made some assumptions
about the Swifties and saying them out loud
is going to bring their wrath upon us.
We're being kind.
Like you saying there, well, it'll probably be a drop-off.
James, no.
Don't say that.
It'll probably be a roaring success no matter what happens.
That's right, forever.
Forever.
You make a billion dollars a week and she'll never die.
God, that is just money for old rope, though.
I mean, I know there is a lot to going into filming a production like this,
obviously, but like.
But not a billion dollars.
You know.
I love it.
Yeah, good on them.
Trailers Ahoy.
We've got one for Gen V.
We did, that's true.
Which is What If The Boys But It's School.
That's right. School for Boys. boys yeah but not exclusively no also others mostly people
issue laces and whatever blood powers and mind reading maybe i don't know yeah yeah
one's an ant woman how many soups are there in the in the boys universe i don't know i think
they probably they make a bunch and a lot of them die or they kill them yeah and then some of them get through to school i guess yeah right because the the um
the reveal in the show is essentially that uh the the company void yeah void voig voig john voig
john voig uh vort there we go yeah that they sort of altered the DNA of a bunch of pregnant women's fetuses and then they-
And they'll often then give them back to families?
Yeah.
Or they'll just give them in a lab, which will later be homeland or whatever.
But this seems to be a later generation than the generation
that produced Starlight and A-Train and so forth.
So I guess they did it for a couple of generations.
So is this the last generation?
Because if they've built this-
And we've seen babies.
Yeah, so if they've built this institution,
then clearly they're like there's going to be enough generations of this
that they have to find a way to train them and contain them
and that sort of thing.
Absolutely.
It looks like it could be good.
It comes out end of this month
they're doing bad stuff to these kids sometimes they're like we thought we'd be going here and
learning how to use our laser vision for good professor x guy or whatever you know but it's
probably all like a corporation situation there also isn't a is there a professor x style guy
not there probably is but i don't know which one i think if there was it would be like a guy
pretending to be that oh yeah no absolutely not but it's interesting i think if there was, it would be like a guy pretending to be that. Oh, yeah, no, absolutely. Who's not.
But it's interesting, I think if they are going for like a...
Like a mentor figure that's really just a corporate...
Yeah, like a school for gifted mutants kind of thing,
you would think that if they're going to do the satire of that,
they would have a charismatic leader who's like that.
But I guess they've used that, like Giancarlo Esposito is kind of...
You know how they always wanted to be Professor X?
Yeah, okay.
He's always been fan cast as Professor X.
He still could be, I feel.
He still could be, yeah.
Yeah.
Also, apparently, didn't he mention he spoke to James Gunn about a role or something?
Maybe.
We talked about that last week in the DCU.
So someone's got to step up.
I don't know who it's going to be.
Maybe we can get him on the show.
We'll poach him.
We'll have him.
You think?
Yeah, yeah.
We'll get him away.
Marvel at DC.
Right. Oh, as a host. Yeah, he can come in with us okay that sounds really good yeah he would love
that i think yeah he seems like my way more of a like a like a laid-back kind of dude he seems
really than uh than than every role that he's been sort of where he's a complete psycho yeah
absolutely where he's like this cool calculated psychount. Button down psycho. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it has sort of reached that point where, you know,
all the fan casts are just, what's his character's name in Breaking Bad?
Mr. Chicken?
Mr. Chicken, yeah.
Mr. Chicken.
They're all like, hey, we should cast you as a Mr. Chicken guy.
But I think his range seems to be a lot greater than that.
I agree, yeah.
He's Mr. Chicken.
He's in one of the.
He's in the Mandalorian.
He's in the Mandalorian where he's sort of a Mr. Chicken guy. Yeah, he He's Mr. Chicken. He's in one of the... He's in The Mandalorian. He's in The Mandalorian
where he's sort of
a Mr. Chicken guy.
Yeah, he's a Mr. Chicken guy.
He's in one of the Far Cry games
where he's a real Mr. Chicken guy.
He's a Mr. Chicken guy.
He's a Mr. Chicken
who's a sort of a
dictator of a country.
Yeah, okay.
With Mr. Chicken vibes.
Interesting.
Yeah, he does do that
Mr. Chicken guy pretty well.
But I think he does it very well
but I think there's more to him
and I would like to see that.
Yeah.
There's also a trailer
for Godzilla Minus One,
which is a Japanese reboot of the franchise.
Yeah, and it's set post-World War II, I think.
Looks incredible.
It does, doesn't it?
Yeah.
The special effects are really, I don't know, with the visceral, tactile, good.
It feels like there is a practicality to them,
and I don't even know whether that's true.
Yeah.
But it just feels like a suit-stomping monster.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know what they've done yet.
I don't know either.
Looks good, though.
Yeah, no, and it's sort of, they, I mean, I know, you know,
very little about Godzilla, you know, the Japanese versions of Godzilla.
But if you know Godzilla, go on.
But, I mean, I certainly know Godzilla 1998 or whatever it is.
I certainly know that version.
Remember they couldn't pronounce that guy's name?
The Didopolis. Yeah, that's the one.
Remember the bit where they go, that's a lot of fish.
And it was. It was a lot of fish.
Anyway, I don't know a lot about Japanese Godzilla,
but I guess it seems
to be they're sort of reverting him back to being
a monster and a villain.
It's like the very early ones where he is the threat to humanity as opposed to the
savior and maybe this is a series where they maybe this is a one-off maybe this is a series where
he'll evolve back into being yeah the hero again yeah maybe in this he's just misunderstood you
know he is uh it seems as if also because we've got some monarch legacy of monsters stuff this
week like some more information and images.
That's the Apple series, which is set in the universe.
We talked about it a few weeks back with Kurt Russell and his son, Kurt Russell, who played
the same character called Kurt Russell, where I think, because we're recording this a bit
early, there might have been a trailer for that at this point.
I see.
I don't know.
But anyway.
But I'd say it's probably cool.
Yeah.
Pretty cool.
Pretty cool.
And the last trailer I want to talk about is called No One Will Save You.
Now, the only reason I wanted to bring this up, this is a horror movie.
It looks good.
It does look good, and it's a period piece that seems to be set in the 50s or 60s.
Oh, I didn't even realize.
And it's like a home invasion, but spoiler alert, it seems to be like Little Green Room.
It's E.T.
It's an E.T. style situation.
It's got Caitlin Dever, who I think is great.
But the only reason I wanted to bring this up is because there is,
if you go to YouTube and you search for No One Will Save You,
there's a couple of different thumbnails.
One is a sort of a generic one.
Yeah.
And one is like a clickbait thumbnail a la Mr. Sunday Movies.
Hells yeah.
Where it's like it's got a picture of the alien you see at the end of the trailer.
Yeah.
Which is a sort of a big spin.
It's like a little green man, but he's got big legs and he's threatening and it's got
a big circle around it and a red arrow.
And it's like, oh, look at this.
You can, you seen it?
It's not coming up.
Really?
I've got this, like, I've got one that just shows the monster.
Maybe they've changed it.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe they've sneakily changed it a a la Mr. Sunday Movies.
I would do that, and I have done that, and I will continue to do that.
Yeah.
Okay.
No, I'm really not saying it.
They've gotten rid of it.
Those dogs.
Maybe that's why.
I'll find it for you.
I'll find it.
I'll find it using technology.
Did you say it was Nando V Movies who mentioned it?
Yeah, I saw it from a friend of the show, N Nano V Movies, who was like, look at this,
look what they've done. But at the same time,
I probably would not have clicked
unless I'd... Well, I did
click, because I had faith in it. Oh, yeah.
It does feel a bit Cloverfield as well. Some people are like,
is this a Cloverfield movie? And the answer is
maybe. Yeah.
Oh, it's only PG-13. Boo.
Boo. We're going to have to see that lady's
face get torn off. Yeah. Boo. Boo. Boo. Boo. Well, it's only PG-13. Boo. Boo. Boo. We're going to have to see that lady's face get torn off. Yeah.
Boo.
Boo.
Boo.
Boo.
Well, it's gone.
It worked.
Yeah.
Because we're talking about it, aren't we?
We certainly are.
Yeah.
All right.
Should we move it along then?
Anyway, it looks good.
It comes out.
That's right.
I was trying to find the date of it.
It comes out September.
And it's on Hulu.
So even better.
Great.
Last bit of news, Mason.
Yes.
More Pirates of the Caribbean, if you don't mind.
I don't mind at all.
Do you?
You don't mind that?
I don't mind it at all.
You might.
Oh, here it is.
Here's the thumbnail.
Oh, that's dreadful.
I love it.
To be clear, this is real.
No, I know.
It was on one of the official 20th Century Fox channels.
Oh, it was like an official channel?
Yes, this isn't a fake one.
This is a real one.
Oh, my God.
I thought it was like one of those re-upload channels.
No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. That's lovely. Yeah, it is lovely a fake one. This is a real one. Oh, my God. I thought it was like one of those re-upload channels. No, no, no.
That's what I'm saying.
That's lovely.
It is lovely, isn't it?
They're catching up.
Good look at this guy.
There's an emoji of the
They're becoming self-aware.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I love that.
Well, guess what,
20th Century Fox?
Everybody's sick of circles
and red arrows.
That's right.
They're sick of them.
We already ruined it years ago.
That's right.
Idiots.
This is via LA Times.
Craig Marsden spoke to them,
who you might know as the showrunner of Chernobyl.
I do remember that guy.
But also Chalastovus.
Two great shows.
Hey, don't worry about the apocalypse, Chalastovus, bro.
Chalastovus.
Yeah, kill all those doctors and doom the world,
but Chalastovus, bro.
You're too tense about all the murders I did.
Yeah.
And we're doomed, but you're last of us, bro.
So Craig Marsden said, we pitched a Pirates movie to Disney.
He said, we pitched it and thought there's no way they're buying it.
It's too weird.
And they did.
And then he wrote, I don't know who that is, a fantastic script
and the strike happened and everyone's waiting around.
This is interesting to me.
That Craig Barson, who has exclusively made good things.
Yes.
I mean, I think he also made a superhero movie or something at some point.
Yes, absolutely.
But obviously, you know, people like that one.
In the present day.
Yeah, yeah.
He had to work on some slop.
Yeah, and just the idea of like a very weird Pirates movie.
Yeah.
In a new direction.
Mm-hmm.
Because those Pirates movies did go in some weird directions.
Yeah.
Not all of which were great.
It felt by the end also like pretty uniform.
I saw a video on it.
Who had this video where they were talking about how it became like,
I think it was a comment I saw actually on a video.
It was about the fake.
Do you want to go any smaller than that?
No.
Okay.
The video was.
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
So it's by Fomento, and the video is Dead Man Tell No Tales,
the imposter Jack Sparrow.
And it's basically like the Jack Sparrow in that is not the real Jack Sparrow,
whether that be intentionally or not,
but it's a guy pretending to be Jack Sparrow because he's not.
Oh, yeah.
Like all the things that he's doing are kind of Jack Sparrow-esque,
but it looks like he's doing a.
Jack Sparrow impression.
Impression, yeah, which is true.
And I think the comment was something along the lines of,
after the first Pirates movie, they started writing Jack Sparrow.
Yes.
As opposed to letting Johnny Depp take the material and just do it in a.
I feel that's the same way they started writing Doctor Who after a while.
I feel like I've talked about this before,
but I think when they did the Eccleston and Attendant seasons,
those guys brought a certain amount of cool to Doctor Who
that they had not had before.
It had been fun and interesting, but it was never cool.
And then after that they're like,
what if we wrote him as really cool and everybody thought he was cool?
That's not cool anymore.
When everyone told him he was cool.
Yeah, and then all of a sudden that wasn't cool anymore.
I mean, it's a bit cool.
Yeah, but it's the same with this.
It's like he brought that odd vibe.
Like he clearly got a normal script and he went,
I'll be a bit odd about it and strange,
and people will respond to that.
And they went, well, what if we made him the strangest, weirdest guy?
Yeah.
Well, then it doesn't work as well, does it?
Exactly.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Pirates.
Anyway, should we move it along?
Yes.
Ah! Ah! work as well, does it? Exactly. So there you go. Pirates. Anyway, should we move it along? Yes.
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Got a tweet here. This is the perfect lead in I love that
I love how I plan things
is the tweet from a
cool famous person
yep
that's great
this is from
Chris O'Donnell
from Batman and Robin
and other things
but what was the
first thing you thought
of when you thought
of Chris O'Donnell
yeah Batman and Robin
and then it was
NCIS whatever one
he does
Los Angeles
yeah thank you
yeah
and then I just went
to LL Cool J.
Same.
Because he did that.
He just blew us my head as like a shark fin.
And then we thought of, of course, our commentary for the movie Deep Blue Sea.
Correct, yeah, which we do have.
And we have a commentary of The Flash.
I think we mentioned it last week.
It's up now.
That's right.
And whatever else is the new thing at Big Sandwich this week.
I think it's a year.
I think we look at the year 1978 and see what the pop culture was.
Surprisingly good year.
A really good year, actually, yeah, in hindsight.
Who knew?
Us, after we researched it.
So Chris Sullivan actually sent this tweet and said,
hashtag weeklyplanetpod at Wikipedia Brown and at MrSundayMovies,
calling Luffy a Gumby guy was killing me.
I need a One Piece review so bad.
Well, here we are.
Here it's going to happen.
It's a bit late.
I mean, it would have been nice of you if you were famous.
Yeah.
And like a famous person out of us.
Yeah.
You know, like Barack Obama was like, let me be clear, be nice of you if you were famous yeah and like a famous person out of us yeah you know like barack
obama was like uh let me be clear if you could uh do a review of one piece and i'm a war criminal
i'd love to do a drone i'll do a drone strike on you if you don't do it that'd be so cool yeah you
know and you know to be cool obama as well you'd have like a he'd be bouncing a basketball maybe
yeah yeah yeah be like i'm normal i'm not i'm not murderer. He'd be wearing some cool casual wear like he does now
because he doesn't have to be the president anymore.
Yeah, he doesn't have to be the president.
Oh, my God.
Imagine not being the president.
Oh, dream.
What would you even want to be the president?
I don't know.
Nightmare scenario.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, One Piece.
We'd watch One Piece.
Well, he wants to be the president of pirating.
That's true.
What do you think the story was?
Oh, come on, mate.
Yeah.
All right.
So it's set on a world much like our world except completely different.
It's very different.
And it's mostly water.
There's a lot of seafaring adventures.
And there's a pirate out there and his name's like Golden Rob or Rich Gravy or something.
And he's like, I'm the king of the pirates and I've – but he's going to get executed by the world government because I don't like piracy.
And before they execute him, they're like, but I'll tell you what, i've still got a treasure out there and maybe you guys could find the treasure and
here's a clue is it love or something i don't think so i think it's proper i hope it's a real
treasure yeah yeah he's like i've got a treasure out there and here's a clue to get it it's somewhere
out there yeah everybody's like whoa i didn't know it was somewhere out there and so everybody
in the world is like we're gonna get this Yeah. But then 20 years pass and nobody ever finds the treasure.
Yep.
But then our mate, Luffy, or possibly Luffy, depending on who you're speaking to,
is like, I'm a cool laid-back guy and I'm going to find that treasure.
All I need is a crew because I've already got a boat.
Oh, wait, my boat's sunk.
Now I need a crew and a boat.
Yep.
Wait, this boat's not going to work either.
I'm going to need another boat.
Another boat.
And then he's like, I'm going to find this treasure with either. I'm going to need another boat. Another boat. And then he's like,
I'm going to find this treasure
with my...
I'm going to collect
some colourful characters
along the way.
That's right.
Yeah.
And I'm a Gumby guy.
And he's a Gumby guy.
Now last week,
you mentioned this
because you'd watched
a couple of episodes
ahead of me.
Yeah.
And you were like,
by the way,
he's a Gumby guy,
which blew my mind
because no part of,
I've been aware of One Piece
for a long time,
but I've never read the manga or watched the animation.
Well, I have, but I'm going to come at this from the perspective
of somebody who hasn't. Because we need those two perspectives.
Somebody who hasn't seen it, and somebody
who's pretending to have it. Consumed all thousand issues
or whatever. Yes.
And you were like, he's a Gumby guy.
At no point had I
ever considered that he was a Gumby guy, because
in no piece of media I've ever seen him be a Gumby guy.
Me neither, Wink. Yeah.
And then I asked you, I think, is it like the movie Scott Pilgrim where it looks like
it's going to be a rom-com and then there's the reveal that it's like a video game fight
thing.
Yeah.
But here's the thing.
This was a lot like Scott Pilgrim.
It's very Scott Pilgrim, isn't it?
A series of villains they fight.
I think that.
Obviously, this was first.
Yeah.
A series of villains they fight?
Yeah, I think that. Obviously, this was first.
Yeah, so obviously the One Piece manga predates the Scott Pilgrim comic books
by a significant, you know, probably a couple of decades.
I'd say at least a decade.
A decade, I don't know.
But then, of course, Scott Pilgrim the movie predates this show.
Sure, yeah.
And I'm sure it's all a mess of influences.
And I think Brian Lee O'Malley was, like, influenced by manga
when he made Scott Pilgrim and et cetera. Yeah, there's a number of influences in I think Brian Lee O'Malley was like influenced by manga when he made Scott Pilgrim and etc
There's a number of influences
in Scott Pilgrim. But this is absolutely
like it does kind of follow that
same narrative of like
He's a weird thing you have to fight. He's a weird
guy with a weird power and he's a
you know this guy can fall to bits
and come back together and etc
This guy's got a tiny little sword
and that's a bit of fun isn't it? you say uh would you call this one piece of crap or one piece of pretty good
content second one i think yeah yeah i agree because it's weird because like i the balance
of this it's works walks a very fine line because it's such a nonsense world and its characters
like especially the lead guy i'm like watching him and I'm like,
I think I should fucking hate this guy, but I don't.
And I'm like, he's irritating, but it's not irritating me.
And I think so much of that is the performance.
Inaki Godoy plays him just like really earnestly.
And some of the line delivery is a bit ropey
because the dialogue is clearly lifted straight from the source material.
But he sells it all, really.
What's interesting as well, I think,
and I think they've cast all the supporting characters really well,
I think, all the assorted villains, the evil exes.
And here's some names.
Emily Rudd as Nami.
McKenyu as Zorro.
Taz Skylar as Sanji.
Some of the names, Mason.
I love it when you read out the names.
I don't remember anyone's actual name from the show.
No, neither do I.
Actors' names, characters' names.
We'll just describe them.
Yeah.
Obviously, Rich Gravy.
Yeah.
The King of the Pirates.
I love that guy.
He was pretty good.
You know what I liked about this? Look, the casting is good is good yeah and i think the set pieces are a lot of fun and
like you said he should be annoying but he's not and i think it's a credit to him yeah the main guy
but i it's interesting as well a lot some of the i mean obviously a lot of the world is visual
effects yeah but i think maybe something that lets and i would i would say i would ordinarily hate that like if it was a speed
racer universe where everything is obviously fake yeah i think i would hate this yeah sure but i
think what sells it to me is that everything like while everything in the background feels like
quite fuzzy visual effects everything in the foreground is like very textured that's
true and it's got a like it all feels very real i don't like i don't know like you know there'll
be seen there's a lot of scenes set on boats yeah and i don't know like is it just the deck that is
real and everything else is visual effects but it's like you know every piece of wood and every
you know sword and every rope and it all looks real and all the characters are very heavily textured
like you know everybody's
they haven't like plasticined
people. No but I think also some of that
is that but it also adds
to it because there's so many like
obvious wigs and makeups and
prosthetic and all that kind of stuff but I
think because it is this weird
heightened universe it works
and I think it's also because this is it's an expensive show and it kind of in some ways it looks like
a netflix show or movie looks but the best version of that and it's appropriate for this apparently
was 17 million dollars per episode which is the second highest for a netflix series to stranger
things so that was that's kind of money though okay which is like a bit less than they do for
the mandalorian okay but you can see the wigs on everybody all the time.
It's like, who cares, you know?
It's a weird anime universe where everyone screams the punch they're about to do
or whatever, which I didn't like, to be fair.
Wow.
It's one of the only things I didn't like, yeah.
But I think also what works is the characters all feel very genuine
and they, I guess, like and know each other.
You know, like it's these weird kind of almost stilted interactions
and superficial understanding of like the universe and good and evil.
Yeah.
Boy, in this universe, I certainly wouldn't want to be
like a really pretentious floppy haired guy who's like got a sense of superiority because my dad's the sheriff or whatever.
The president or whatever.
Because you are going to get thumped.
Especially in like the first couple of episodes.
It's just a bunch of dudes showing up being like,
oh, how dare you speak that way to me, man who's carrying three swords.
Because I'm actually my dad's big time.
Oh, you've beat me up.
You've beat me up very severely.
You've given me this bob haircut, which I'm keeping
for the rest of the series.
I think in addition to that, and you mentioned this,
but the collection of colourful enemies that they come up against,
and it's every two episodes or so there's a new pirate
they have to fight.
I know this is taken from the source material.
I know that because I've definitely had the time to watch
and read all of that.
So you knew ahead of time that One Piece was the treasure?
Yeah.
Because I had to learn that.
I'm like, oh, that's what they're talking about.
Did you think it was One Piece of crap?
I thought it was maybe a One Piece swimsuit.
Oh, okay.
Because it's beachy.
It is.
It's a beachy world, isn't it?
But yeah, you know, there's like a shark guy.
You mentioned the guy falls apart, you know.
There's a guy with a giant like crucifix sword
and also a little crucifix sword.
Oh, the clown guy is the fall apart guy.
Yeah, all of that I quite like, yeah.
But I just remember like multiple times during this,
there's a moment where he, i guess if we do some spoilers
but i guess we won't spoil anything too heavily where a friend betrays him and then comes back
and asks him for help yeah and he like screams to the heavens that's right that he's got to help but
i'm like i think i even said out loud like god this is so naff like whoa that's what i said
but it like but in a way that it, this is what it is, you know?
Yeah.
And also by that point, that's like five episodes in
and it's like, well, if you're not committed to the show at this point.
Exactly, what are you doing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're probably not going to leave there.
Yeah.
I feel like also this, making this is an insurmountable task.
Because there's a thousand.
There's a thousand.
There's a thousand mangas and there's.
The cast, you'd have to recast at some point.
Now the comic and the anime are finished as far as I know.
Okay, sure.
The story is finished, I think.
So either they found the one piece and it was a treasure
or they found the one piece and it was love.
I would hate to say.
Or they found the one piece and it was treasure
and it falls beneath the ocean or whatever.
And they're like, well, I guess we lost the one piece.
And we got each other.
We got each other in friendship.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And we probably picked up some other people on the way.
Yeah, and I've got this big sword.
Yeah.
And I'm still a Gumby guy.
Do you think we'll lose these Gumby guy powers?
No.
Oh, wait.
No, because if you get immersed in salt water, that's why you can't swim.
Because if you get immersed.
So the main character ate a devil's fruit.
Yeah.
And he got Gumby powers.
Yeah.
And the other people in this universe, if you eat a devil's fruit, depending on theby powers and the other people in this universe if you eat a devil's fruit
depending on the fruit
you get a different power
but if you get immersed
in salt water
you lose
your powers stop working
so do you permanently
lose them if you get them?
No I think it's just
because there's a few times
when he's submerged
and he's like
I can't do big punch
that's true
I felt like also
at the start
oh has this guy
like Reed Richards
invincible
but he's not
he can be cut
and he can be even beaten up.
That's true.
You know, like despite his flexibilities and all of that.
Yeah, I thought that worked well.
And the overarching story about who was tracking him
and how that was revealed.
And that's all apparently.
There's a number of narrative, like characters are like, you know,
combined and people who are revealed who to have known him
happen at different points.
That's true, yeah.
Apparently it's less, like, the characters,
some of them are, like, less lecherous
because, you know, a lot of anime,
especially the older stuff, is just, like, guys going, like,
hehehehe.
You know what I mean?
The most lecherous thing you could do.
Like, following a girl around for, like, a thousand episodes
or whatever.
But, yeah, I just don't know how, though,
they're going to pull this off.
I don't think they are. Without just cancelling it at some point. they're going to pull this off i don't think they're
without just cancelling it at some point they're going to like yeah i think maybe and again i would
love to hear from from fans of the original besides you james besides the man who knows
everything about anime just some other perspectives if anything you know too much you're right you've
lost objectivity because you know too much but um you first of all, what does this cover in terms of the originals?
Like, does it cover, is eight episodes eight issues?
Or is it a year?
It feels like.
Or is it many years?
I feel like.
Did this cover like five years of the comic?
I think it's like a prologue it feels like.
Well, that's exactly right.
And I guess my question is, do you think they can maintain this?
Or is it a case of like, well, do you feel like it's just kind of like an artifact?
Yeah, okay.
Like, well, they may make more of this.
They may never make more of this.
But I guess you just go, I will imagine.
You could imagine the rest of it if it was live action kind of thing.
It's just a-
Hey, I will do it eventually.
Hey, I will do it eventually.
That's right, yeah.
That's what I want, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. I just don't see it going for- I just don't do it eventually. Hey, I will do it eventually. That's right, yeah. That's what I want, yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
I just don't see it going for...
I just don't see it happening.
I mean, if it's $17 million an episode,
unless somebody high up in Netflix loves One Piece,
and maybe that's the reason.
Yeah, maybe.
Anyway, it's pretty spectacular they managed to pull this off
about anything even remotely watchable.
That's true.
It is true.
It's pretty incredible.
And it seems to be garnering more positive reaction
than Cowboy Bebop, which was the previous one.
Yes, fans of the source material, myself included,
consider it a good adaptation.
There you go.
Yeah, which is pretty much unheard of these days.
There's a few things that, just before we wrap it up.
Yes.
I understand Luffy's motivation in terms of like,
he wants to get the one piece.
Yes, absolutely.
Why not?
Right.
Yeah.
That's cool.
But I don't get why.
Like he wants to,
he wants to be a pirate because he feels like it's what he wants to be.
Right.
Which is fine.
Whatever.
But like, why do you do a Jimmy Buffett lifestyle, baby?
R.I.P.
But why does he want to,
what's that Margaritaville lifestyle? He wants a cheeseburger in paradise. But why does he want to... What's that Margaritaville lifestyle?
He wants a cheeseburger in paradise.
But why does he want to...
It's a great song, James.
Cheeseburger in paradise.
It might be.
I don't know it.
But why...
My dad loves Jimmy Buffett.
And so I...
I had an ego this week.
I haven't asked him.
But I will.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll ask him next time I see him.
Yeah, please do.
Probably devastated.
Probably devo.
I don't doubt it.
So I've heard a lot of Jimmy Buffett.
Has he ever done any of the Jimmy Buffett style resorts or restaurants? No, but he has seen him live, I think. And don't doubt it. So I've heard a lot of Jimmy Buffett. Has he ever done any of the Jimmy Buffett-style resorts or restaurants?
No, but he has seen him live, I think.
And?
Loved it.
Did he play all a million of his songs?
Yes, of course he did.
Okay, great.
But why does he want everybody to be after him and be the most famous pirate?
Is this their version of social media?
I guess it is, yeah.
Is it like a popularity thing?
Bit of excitement
you know yeah but like why would you want people trying to kill you all day forever i think you
may be ascribing too much motivation to this character and and that maybe he's an airhead
yeah that he's a himbo we've gotten up i think have we gotten some more himbo media recently
that i'm like oh yeah just a just a nice dumb guy. Okay, yeah. I don't know. Don't know. Also, did you buy his evolution from a real, like a little angry kid?
It feels a little, there's some gaps there, right?
Yeah, it does.
And again, maybe which will be filled out in season two, which may never happen.
But you also get glimpses of his anger and what sets him off and where his loyalties are.
His friends.
Yeah, so you do kind of, I think there is some stuff there.
That's true and i guess the idea being that his his the the pirate captain the one-armed pirate
yeah you know who who saved him a number of times probably you know over the course of his growing
up in his adolescence maybe taught him like be cool and chill margaritaville baby r.i.p r.i.p
jimmy buffett yeah absolutely so i guess the last thing I want to say is that, like,
this is classic post-credits scene but also haven't cast that person yet.
Oh, yeah, the mysterious guy, the double cigar man.
Yeah.
Who is that?
Is it Edward Norton again?
I think it's probably Edward Norton.
It's probably Edward Norton, yeah.
He's probably learned from Battle Angel Alita.
They're like sign you up and pay you and then you never have to do it.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that.
I love that.
Yeah, just like...
Should we Google one piece?
Do you want to know?
If you Google one piece double cigar, man, what will happen?
It's a guy who's got a vendetta and a weird thing about him.
Do you think he has two mouths?
Maybe.
Or like that.
Or he smokes out of his nose.
Okay.
He's going to say stacked or side by side.
I was imagining side by side, but maybe...
That's me doing two snapping mouths.
Okay.
Yeah, they say shit a lot in this show.
They do.
Especially the clown.
Yeah.
Rude.
I agree.
He wasn't a rude clown.
Anyway, I'm going to say best series ever.
Yeah, no, I really liked it.
I didn't think I would.
Is that a case of low expectations?
Yeah.
If I didn't have heard this was good, I just wouldn't have watched it.
Like, I didn't watch Cowboy Bebop.
I don't watch any of these adaptations.
I'm not interested, quite frankly.
But this one, I can't wait for four years
until they release the next season
and all the cast are in their early to late 40s.
Yeah, that's right.
I think the main guy's like 20.
Like he's pretty young.
Okay, well then he's got a few years in him.
He's got a few years, yeah.
He's got the Tom Holland window. That's true 20. Like he's pretty young. Okay. Well then he's got a few years in it. He's got a few years. Yeah. He's got that,
the Tom Holland window.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great stuff.
All right.
Tom Holland's got a beautiful soul,
that guy.
He seems like he does.
Yeah, he's having a good time.
He posted that photo of Zendaya
in like scuba gear or whatever.
Yeah.
He likes her.
That's what I'm saying.
Like a lot of people like,
oh,
not a very flattering photo,
Tom,
but it's like,
yeah,
because in his mind,
like obviously she's one of the most beautiful women in the world. Yeah, yeah, sure. But like, of course in his mind, he's like, yes, not a very flattering photo, Tom. But it's like, yeah, because in his mind, like obviously she's one of the most beautiful women
in the world. Yeah, yeah, sure. But like, of course, in his
mind, he's like, yes, my beautiful girlfriend.
I'm going to take a photo. And this is fun. It's beautiful. A bit of
fun. And we're having fun, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Settle down, everybody. Settle down, everybody.
He's got real wife guy energy. He does, doesn't he?
Yeah. Which can be bad, but in this
case, from social media, seems good.
That's true. And we can retract that.
That's absolutely true. If need be.
All right, should we move it along?
Yes.
What are we doing?
Do we need any...
Do we have any...
Is there any one-piece spoiler talk we need to talk about?
No, he gets through it.
His grandpa's the guy.
His grandpa's the guy.
Exactly.
The guy who executed Rich Gravy.
You might be thinking of the rapper Young Gravy.
Maybe I'm thinking that.
Boy, is the bloody hip-hop scene or is it my bloody grandmother's pantry?
Am I right?
This guy?
He's in there?
No, I'm trying to think of a grandmother type thing.
Like, well, that's a tin of, like, butter cookies or whatever.
What are they called?
Oh, Royal Dansk.
Yeah.
Yeah, I loved his mixtape.
I loved Royal Dansk's mixtape.
All right, what are we going to do next?
What are we reading? Yeah. What are we going to read? I believe you. I loved Royal Dance's mixtape. All right, what are we going to do next? What are we reading?
Yeah.
What are we going to read?
I Believe You.
I'm doing a thing.
What are we reading today?
That's right.
We're going to the shops.
That's right.
Maybe we're going to the shops.
I don't have time to go to the shops.
I'm busy.
Yep, me too.
I also went to the shops earlier.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so, you know. I've gone twice. Yeah, I've gone twice. I can wait. Mr. Two trips to the shops. I don't have time to go to the shops. I'm busy. Yep, me too. I also went to the shops earlier. Oh, wow. Yeah, so, you know.
I've gone twice. Yeah, I'm one of them.
Mr. Two trips to the shops.
Someone's doing alright.
Oh, I forgot something. I'm going back to the shops.
Wow. Must be nice.
Must be nice.
I've been reading. I read
the first two issues of Big Game.
I read those. Read by Mark Miller
and Pepe Larrazura this is the combination of
all his milliverse yeah so this is i mean a little little bit of a little bit of spoilers but i think
maybe if you if you're not into this sort of stuff you were probably not reading it anyway so yeah
so recently mark miller did a reboot of one of his characters nemesis yes uh it was called the series was called nemesis reloaded
and it re wrote nemesis's origin yeah because in the original series it's about uh a guy who's like
a self-styled super villain and he's he dresses all in white he looks like batman but he just
does villainous stuff and he he goes around the world killing law uh lawmen because he loves it because
he loves it and the reveal at the end of that spoilers for that thing he's got a tragic backstory
about you know his parents were criminals or something yeah and you know he went wrong or
whatever but the reveal is that he's just a rich guy yeah who wanted to become a super villain as
kind of a thrill just because there was there was a weird organisation that's been around for a long time
that just did this for him, like a luxury vacation.
Yeah, it's like Michael Douglas' The Game.
It was like Michael Douglas' The Game.
So they gave him, like, all this, you know, this supervillain identity
and all this gadgetry and all this training and all these plans
and all this stuff so he could execute this worldwide crime wave kind of thing.
And he died.
And he died.
And the post-credits is basically the cop who defeats him
gets a message from the company and is like,
well, there's more of this coming.
Yeah.
And there just never was.
Well, because there was going to be a sequel with Red Nemesis.
Yeah.
Do you remember that was kind of the tease for years?
Yeah, right.
When it was going to be another another guy would do start doing this but then mark miller decided to re-tell that story yeah but keep every other
world like in canon because like there's huck who's like dumb superman yeah it's like clark
kent who never left the farm and he's done yeah yeah there's starlight which is like a flash
gordon guy there's Wanted. Kingsman.
Kingsman.
All of these.
There's Arthur Kick-Ass.
Yeah, so big game essentially is the idea.
So they've rebooted Nemesis, so now he's not sympathetic.
No.
But he's just that guy.
He's not a millionaire masquerading as a supervillain. He's actually a supervillain with an origin and et cetera.
And now he is sort of, okay, now we're into full spoilers for this thing.
But I think you should check it out.
I think it's really interesting.
I don't love everything Mark Millett does,
but the reveal of this is that Nemesis has been trained by,
he's been inducted into an organisation,
he's been trained his whole life to be this villain
and the people behind it are the villains from Wanted.
Yes.
And so in the series Wanted,
the world used to be a superhero, supervillain world.
Not the movie, if you're wondering.
Not the movie.
It's different from the movie, like costumes, supervillains
and heroes flying around.
Pretty much without doing it explicitly because you can't do it
a copyright.
There was Superman and Batman and Spider-Man and all of those.
And the villains one day killed all the heroes, took over the world
and then changed reality so you don't remember.
So none of us remember that the world used to be more colourful
and interesting or whatever.
the world used to be more colourful and interesting or whatever.
But, and so what Mark Mill has done is he's taken all the other properties that he's created since and has gone, well,
they're all in the same world.
People remember superheroes and supervillains,
and they're always putting them in movies and comic books and TV shows
because they're trying to puzzle out what happened to the world
that they remember.
And some people explicitly also remember,
like very few people actually remember.
But also because of that and because of how the world is
and the world is kind of still a kind of crazy sci-fi world under the surface,
now superheroes are emerging like Huck and Starlight and the Kingsmen,
and so the wanted villains
need an agent to destroy them all.
Yeah.
And so they're using Nemesis.
And I think that's really interesting.
So it's all the new stuff, the Ambassadors, which is a new series.
The Magic Order is going to be inducted into this.
I wrote a bit of the Magic Order.
I read the first run.
I should probably go back to it.
But what's ambassadors again?
The ambassadors is basically a sci-fi concept.
They've invented this device that can beam superpowers to people,
and there can only be a few of them in the world.
And so different nations all have elected one superhero.
Oh, that's right.
And you can sort of download different powers.
Oh, I didn't realize they were from another right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can sort of download different powers. Oh, I didn't realize they were from another thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
From this, yeah.
But there was also the Crononauts,
who are like time traveling cool dudes.
And this series.
The Crononauts?
Yeah, it is, yeah.
This series is not shy about killing off main people
that Mark Millar's invented.
And I don't know if this is going to end
with reality being changed again
and they all get brought back.
Or if he's just like,
yeah, I created these characters, I gave them a four-issue miniseries
and I'm just going to kill them now.
Who knows?
Why not?
Yeah, but I don't know.
Is this a cynical attempt to create a shared universe?
Because it also includes, like you said, kick-ass.
Like Hit-Girl is in this and kick-ass are in this as well.
Maybe Jupiter's Legacy is in this?
Yeah, Jupiter's Legacy seems to be being pitched as a fictional thing.
Or it's media in the universe.
Yeah, I can't remember.
So I don't know if that one's real or not.
But yeah, or they're maybe publicly superheroes now.
Yeah, maybe.
But yeah, is it a cynical way of kind of pitching this shared universe
and going like, well, you loved Kick-Ass.
Yeah.
You liked Kingsman.
Yeah.
Well, they're all in the same universe and I've got more,
so maybe we'll do some more movies kind of thing.
Maybe they should, though.
Yeah, maybe they should, yeah.
Again, I think a lot of – I think Miller's stuff is kind of hit or miss for me,
but I think a lot of it is quite good.
Yeah, I completely agree.
The less cynical stuff.
Sure, yeah, okay.
The kind of – the more –
See, I think my favorite thing of his is Superior,
which is what if a boy, like a real boy became Superman?
Yes.
Or like a Captain Marvel.
Yeah, a Captain Marvel kind of thing.
Shazam Captain Marvel, yeah.
And just like, what is the weight of that on a real,
and Superior's in this universe as well.
Yes.
Though they haven't really done much with it yet.
But the weight of that and the responsibility and the expectations
and how you can't exist like that as a person for too long
because it's just an impossible ideal to be like a Chris Reeve Superman.
Yes.
It cannot – it will be undone.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, you know.
Interesting, right?
Interesting. Well, speaking of. Interesting. Right? Interesting.
Well, speaking of comic book stuff.
Go on.
For our next series of movies about Caravan of Garbage, we're looking at like pulp comic book movie.
We talk about how we define it in the actual videos.
Yes.
But a series of comic book big swings from the 90s upwards that were going to be like a big thing.
And they put a lot of money and effort and it's a very specific vision
and they bombed.
So like the first one we're looking at this week is Dick Tracy
and the second one will be The Rocketeer
and there's going to be five we're going to do in total.
So you've been reading Dick Tracy comics?
No, we watched Dick Tracy, that one is in the can.
But you could read some Dick Tracy comics.
I could potentially, yeah.
But we've recorded that thing so it's too late.
It's done.
You know what came out at the time? And I may still have them somewhere.
But when that Dick Tracy movie came out,
there were three Dick Tracy prequel comics.
Okay, to the movie.
Yeah, to the movie.
And they were drawn by Kyle Baker, who did Plastic Man years later.
And they're really cool and interesting.
They're way better than the movie.
I was going to say, that sounds really cool and interesting.
Unlike the movie. He really, because he did Pl sounds really cool and interesting. Yeah, but they've-
Unlike the movie.
He really, because he did Plastic Man and he's done a bunch of other stuff
in that similar vein.
Yeah.
He really gets the grotesque look of those characters.
Oh, because there were freaks in that movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Real argos.
You're going to love it.
Yeah.
Not, yeah.
Maybe that's the wrong word.
Yeah.
You're going to know about it.
You are going to know about it.
Yeah.
Are we going to know about copyright on this sort of stuff?
I wonder if, because we talk a lot about Warren Beatty and his like stranglehold on the Dick Tracy rights.
Do you think he's going to be like copyright strike in this video?
No, he's not looking at that.
Okay.
All right.
Dude, like, I don't know what he's doing, but not that.
Yeah.
I saw an interview with him in research.
We talk about how many women he slept with in the video.
Spoiler alert.
So I watched like a Graham Norton interview.
And he's just an old guy, you know?
Just an old guy confused on a couch.
Where everyone's just like having a great time.
And he's like, I don't know.
I can't read this.
I regret this.
The world has changed and I haven't.
I don't like this.
That's what happens, you know?
It happens to all of us.
Not us.
No, we're cool.
I also re-watched the first episode of Burn Notice.
I'm like, am I going to go back to Burn Notice?
I don't know why.
I don't.
Why?
What are you doing?
I don't know.
I just got thinking about Burn Notice.
Do you have it or is it on something?
It's on Disney Plus in Australia.
So I'm like, yeah.
I don't know if it's in and out of Burn Notice.
Right.
Who burned him?
I can't remember.
Michael burn notice.
That's right.
What's he doing?
Did he ever get
unburned noticed?
I don't know.
Someone should tell him.
I think if he shook
someone hard enough,
they'd tell him.
They'd tell him, yeah.
So if people haven't seen,
it's from about 2007.
Sure.
And it went for a long time.
Did it?
It went for like
at least five seasons,
I think.
Bruce Campbell's in it. Bruce Campbell's in it and Gabrielle Anwar is in it. It's fun. And a went for a long time. Did it? It went for like at least five seasons, I think. Okay, yeah. Bruce Campbell's in it.
Bruce Campbell's in it and Gabrielle Anwar is in it.
It's fun.
And a bunch of like, the first episode has Ray Wise, famous sinister guy.
He's really?
Yeah, he's like the villain of the week.
And it also has the guy from Dexter, who's the guy, he's like.
Not Dexter's dad?
No, no, no, but he's one of Dexter's pals in the police force.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a kind of very Florida kind of guy.
Yeah, he's got the hat.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, but it's about like a former...
2007 to 2013.
See, there you go.
God, that went for a long time.
I've heard notice.
But it's like a sort of A-team style, you know?
Yes. If you've got no one to turn to, there's a guy and he's like a sort of a team style you know if you've got no one to turn to there's a guy and
he's got a set of skills and he'll he'll get the bad guys for you and it can't like maybe i'm
looking for another one of those shows to watch when you're not watching a show really yeah kind
of thing it's it is fun though like it's a fun show yeah uh his haircut has not aged well it's
like a crew cut that's grown out a bit it doesn't look good but i imagine it was quite cool for 2007
michael burn notice what are you doing exactly but it's about a guy who yeah he's a former spy
and he's he gets issued with the burn notice which means that spy agencies think he's like
no longer reliable maybe he's you know he's he's uh something's up something's up and so he can't
he can't leave his hometown of florida yeah um and you know nobody trusts him anymore and he
doesn't have any money or any contacts or anything like that so he just has to like do odd jobs in florida yeah and it's
like helping people who need help and he's got like and he'll tell you all about it yeah he'll
explain it to you yes exactly he's got a he's got a like a running narration yeah it's fun it's a
fun show burn notice i'm like i'm either gonna watch that or i'm gonna finish magnum pr oh my
god i don't know i think that's the same show, actually. It is essentially the same show, yes.
It is, yeah.
It really is.
Should we do letters then?
Let's do letters.
Great!
The classic one was,
Letters, oh letters, we love you.
Letters, letters, letters, letters, letters, letters.
Oh wait.
Correspondence, correspondence.
I like that.
That's good, right?
This is the correspondence section of the show
Where we get correspondence
And if you want to shoot us some correspondence, you can
That's right
You can shoot some correspondence to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com
Or tweet at me
Hashtag weeklyplanetpod
So, Mason, what have you got in terms of correspondence this week?
Great, question, James
I can do one while you're looking
Terrific, I love that
From Ethan, who sayshtag weekly planet pod
I know you've been pretty cold on Ahsoka
But what did you think of episode 4?
I didn't watch it
I'm going to talk about it right now
Right I love that
Probably do a wrap up
I don't know what it was
I know there's a big revelation
Because I saw the screenshots
I'm going to spoil it
Here's time for some big spoilers folks
If you don't want to be big spoiled for Ahsoka
So the big spoiler at the end
Is Ahsoka falls off a cliff
And then she wakes up
In the Star Wars time travel room
Which is a tree?
Yeah, maybe.
And Anakin Skywalker's there
played by Hayden Christensen.
But he's old now?
No, he's young.
Okay.
But they de-aged him a bit.
He's like the way he looked in the prequels.
Okay.
Ish.
Classic.
That's great.
That's a good way to put it.
He looks like an action figure.
If you defocused your eyes
he would look like an action figure
from like episode three.
Correct.
That's what he looks like.
And I think it might be
because she's on the verge of death
and this is like the realm
before you go into become a ghost.
I don't know.
I don't fucking know.
Could this be Force Ghost Anakin Skywalker?
Yeah, it is.
It's like, it's really him, I think.
Right.
The ghost version of him.
Anyway,
but that's not what I want to talk about.
So leading up,
there's a series of like lightsaber jewels
in the forest.
Which are apparently quite good.
Yeah, they're quite good.
I think all of it,
like it looks good.
I think this is the best episode,
definitely.
Like it looks good
and wow,
it's Anakin Skywalker,
I guess.
And look,
this guy's talking about
the Clone Wars of Anakin
and turns out Marok
is just like a man
made of smoke or something.
He's just a guy.
No, not even a guy.
He dies and like a bunch of
like smoke comes out of him.
It's not even Ezra.
So he could have been like Long Dead or Night Sister Magic or whatever. Anyway, it doesn't matter. He dies and a bunch of smoke comes out of him. It wasn't even Ezra. So he could have been long dead or a night sister magic or whatever.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
But the thing about all that is the narrative and the characters
don't support any of these things.
So Anakin shows up, but there's a moment where they go to march
into the woods like Sabine and Ahsoka, and the David Tennant robot's like,
now remember, if you're going to take one piece of advice,
you should stick together.
And they turn around and they're like, we will stick together.
Great.
And then they turn and he's like.
Well, now I don't want to stick together.
Because you told me to.
And they don't.
But it's like that kind of still, like the guy, Ray Winston.
Ray Winston?
Yes.
Yeah, it's like, you know,
before they have a lightsaber fight with Ahsoka,
he's like, I knew Anakin Skywalker and I know who you are
and I know what he became.
And she's like, I don't want to talk about Anakin Skywalker.
And I'm like, this is thrilling.
I love this.
And it's just like.
If I can be critical, James,
if I can be critical of the couple of episodes I've seen,
and I will be,
it's that a lot of the conversations don't sound like real people
having real conversations.
It's people saying lines and waiting for the other person,
waiting to finish so they can say another line.
And sometimes they wait too long.
Yeah, right.
Like it's too much of a pause.
And I think it's probably because Dave Filoni
went to the George Lucas School of Dialogue for some of this.
Because it is often like two people in a room
and they'll be like,
we need to learn to work together.
And it's like, well, sometimes I find it hard to work together.
Yeah, but if you're going to train under me, it's like that.
And it's like, God, kill me with this.
But I think outside of that, I think it will improve.
And I think like the overall narrative.
Sounds like you're being paid 50 bucks to alter your Rotten Tomatoes score. I think it will improve. Okay. And I think like the overall narrative.
Well, it sounds like you're being paid 50 bucks to alter your Rotten Tomatoes score.
But it's just like the pace of it.
Yeah.
Like the snappiness is just not there.
It's a shame. And it might even be intentional.
I don't know.
Because it's not always and it's not with everybody.
Right.
I don't even hate it.
Yeah.
I don't even hate it.
Wow.
But I don't know.
I just, it's not quite there for me.
Okay.
Now, so presumably the next episode then will be Ahsoka and Anakin
together in a lot of scenes talking.
Yeah.
But I think it's interesting that those actors have never worked together.
Like this is the idea, you know, the entire idea behind, you know,
Anakin had a secret apprentice between episodes two and three,
but neither of those voice actors are these real actors.
No, you're right.
So they had years of practice working together,
but Hayden Christensen and Rosario yeah i've never shared a scene together
as far as i know in anything that's so they have to so the the task here is to make a believable
rapport between these two characters even though they've never done that ever so and they might not
even be on set together yeah well i mean and if so if like i will be i think it could go really
well if they you know they are professional. They've done good work before, so maybe this will work
and we'll be like, oh, it's just like the old days.
I would love this to be like the spark that lights the fire, et cetera,
that style of thing.
But, you know, like that really kind of kicks things off
and like ramps up the characters.
But I don't know whether that's going to happen.
When's this show set again?
Five years after Return of the Jedi. When's anything set again five years after return of the jedi
when's anything set i don't five years after exactly yeah i was gonna say i don't know but i
do anyway yeah it's like but also it's it's all right you know you like star wars they're doing
that i don't like star wars you're not gonna like it oh man yeah i think it's i am being like
unfairly critical of this show which is a sequel to a cartoon, you know?
Sure, yeah.
But I know people might even be saying,
well, you're not being critical enough.
But like, I don't, I don't care ultimately.
Like I could, if they were like, yeah, we just cancelled the rest.
I'd be like, okay.
Like, it would be all right.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
This is your burn notice.
It is, isn't it?
I think that's great.
Yeah.
I think Sabine's really good.
I think Hera's really good.
Hera is really good.
Mary Elizabeth Winstead is really good in this.
How's Chopper?
How's my pal Chopper?
I don't like him.
I've never liked him, but I don't like him.
That's a shame.
Yeah.
David Tennant, Robot's Fun.
But the Rosario Dawson thing, and I don't even know if it's the performance.
It's the, I think it might, it's either the direction or direction or like the yeah it's the stoicism of it doesn't work and i'm not the only one who
said who said this but it is intentional yeah right you can you kind of can see that people
like well she's not like young and like snappy as she used to be maybe she becomes snappy in the
next episode yeah but like she was like 13 in the yeah yeah well maybe this maybe maybe when we
see the two characters together and they haven't been together in a while book she showed up. Maybe when we see the two characters together
and they haven't been together in a while,
maybe she'll get...
Maybe it's that thing where like...
Shut up, Dad.
When you see your high school friends again or whatever,
it's like...
You're all...
Yeah.
Anyway, what's your letter?
Okay, here's an email from Dave.
Dave.
A few people sent this in.
Hey, James and Mace.
So in the latest pod,
you guys talked about if comic book movie actors ever went on to write comics of those characters. Oh, we're going to feel this good. I'm glad you put this in. Hey James and Mace, so in the latest pod you guys talked about if comic book movie actors ever went on to write comics
of those characters. Oh, we're going to feel this good. I'm glad you put this up.
One six issue miniseries that actually concluded
a week or so ago is Ridley Year One
written by Paul Danner
with art by Stevan Subic.
Yeah, I heard this is really good, right? It's a prequel to the film
and shows how the riddle arrived at the point where he's willing to
try and destroy Gotham. I think it's a
very good book and the art in particular is absolutely excellent.
I've only seen the covers, but yeah.
I had no idea this was even out.
If I recall, I remember it happening now that I've been reminded.
I remember it perfectly.
If I recall correctly from an interview,
Dano was telling Matt Reeves about his ideas
on how he imagined the Riddler's life and motivations,
and Reeves said they sounded like a great comic book,
so he called up Jim Lee, who was the head of DC at the time, I think,
to pitch the idea idea and that was that
Paul Dano got to write it
there you go
I highly recommend it
and I would hope
Paul Dano writes more comics
in the future
if this is the quality
he's capable of
yeah Paul Dano seems like
a guy who would do
like extensive
research on
probably both
the comic book character
not just like slap it out
be like I can do this
exactly and get into
the mind of the character
which feels like
the perfect way
to be like
how you know if you're building an origin story get right into the mind of the character, which feels like the perfect way to be like how, you know,
if you're building an origin story, get right into the mind of the character.
Absolutely.
So there you go.
Another one that people said was Danny DeVito wrote a Penguin comic
a few years ago.
Oh, yeah, that's based around Batman Returns.
It's like weird.
And where Catwoman falls in love with the Penguin.
Yeah.
And he's the good guy or something?
Something.
Is it Batman Returns or is it just like the Penguin?
Maybe it's just The Penguin.
I'll never read it, but that seems interesting.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, Dave says,
can I be the official dude telling you about Ridley Year One
via email of the podcast?
You got it.
No, we've already got a guy who did that.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you're going to have to share it with a bunch of other people.
Obviously, yeah.
This is from Quinton who says,
hi, hashtag weeklyplanetpod.
Hi.
Hi.
I know it's a big ask, but can James recommend some anime
for the upcoming content drought?
I trust his knowledge.
Well, that's the guy who knows everything about anime.
Oh, yes.
It's obviously hard to narrow anything down,
but I would recommend the One Piece live action series.
If you don't know, we have talked about that already.
Yeah, quite recently, I think.
I recommend.
My memory's not great, but quite recently.
I recommend One Punch Man probably up to about episode two or three
of the second season, which is where some people may have stopped.
Oh, yes.
Yes, that's what I've heard.
That's what I've heard.
Why would they have stopped, do you think?
I don't know.
Just running out of time?
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
I'd recommend Dragon Ball Z, but maybe, like, you skip over a bunch
of the Freezer saga because you came in, came in a bit late when it was on TV,
and then you went up to the end of the Boo saga,
and you're aware that it spun off into the GT universe,
but you weren't really interested in that.
What's GT stand for?
Dragontroll.
And then...
Nice.
I'm joking.
It's got a real name.
That's the season when they realised that they'd been mispronouncing
Dragon Ball this whole time.
Oh, we thought it was Dragon Ball, but it's Dragon Draw.
But that's obviously no longer canon,
and they started making movies in the Dragon Ball Super universe.
And maybe you could go into that, but maybe some people never bothered,
and they ended it with the Majin Buu saga,
which they saw most of that movie.
Interesting.
It's different for everybody.
Was Majin Buu again?
He's the pink marshmallow guy.
Yeah, I thought he was the pink guy pink guy yeah so those are probably my recommendations
that's great i reckon you got any akira oh yeah seen akira yeah it's pretty uh i mean that's
pretty mainstream i don't know whether i'd go with that you know necessarily a lot of people
have recommended a show called spy family okay that's quite good all right so i haven't seen
any of that i like some slice of life stuff oh yeah it's just a guy running like a bar or whatever.
Oh, yeah?
I couldn't name specifically, but something like that, you know?
Okay.
Just where it's like a-
Roadhouse.
Yeah, like a-
The anime.
Yeah, like a nice thing.
Oh, anime Patrick Swayze.
Can you imagine that?
Oh, my God.
He'd be dreaming.
He would be.
Even more so, maybe.
He'd be dreamy.
Yeah.
So those are my recommendations.
Yeah.
You got another letter?
Here's an email from Joel, who says,
Welcome to One Piece, I hope.
Yeah? And this is exactly the feedback I'm who says, Welcome to One Piece, I hope. Yeah.
And this is exactly the feedback I'm looking for, James.
Okay.
Exactly the feedback.
Hey, James and Mason, I'm very excited to welcome you to One Piece
if you did indeed cover it in this upcoming episode.
We did.
We did, I think.
Yeah, we did.
Yeah, we did.
It's my favourite series of all time in any medium.
I'm assuming he means the manga or the anime, perhaps.
So I could talk you off for hours, but I'll try to be brief.
One, I have to shill for piecemeal a One Piece book club podcast
covering one volume at a time.
Interesting.
And the hosts are a mix of veteran and newbie readers,
so you get both perspectives.
Interesting.
Just like us.
Just like us.
Two, if you like the live action, I'd recommend reading the manga.
There's so much stuff the live action changed or cut
or won't get to for many years
of production
that may be right up your alleys.
More fantasy races,
crazier characters
and most importantly
an ever expanding
epic of a world
with a rich history
and a rich gravy.
Yeah, no doubt.
I try to avoid spoilers
if you plan to tackle
any more of the series
in any form.
There's some good bits.
I mean, yeah,
I would love to
but I don't know whether I will
because it's just, if I could be real.
Interesting.
It feels insurmountable, you know.
But I should.
Yeah.
But I also like the live action, so I could be like,
I'll just wait for this, I guess.
It's not going to happen, though, is it?
Yeah, you're probably right.
What do you reckon the odds are?
I reckon they'll do at least one series.
Yeah, I'm serious.
And then they'll see.
Yeah.
I reckon, yeah.
It's at least two years away.
At least.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Yeah.
You know.
All right.
So anything else?
Here's one more email from James.
Okay.
But not you, though.
Hi, James and Mace, how he says.
Hello.
I've been having a really rough week.
I've been super on edge and burned out from pulling multiple 12-hour days in a row.
That sucks.
So I can get my work deadlines done in time to go home for a few days for my granddad's funeral. That sucks.
Those are two things that are bad. That's bad.
When's this email going to get fun and lighthearted?
Due to the stress burnout, I've really been struggling to sleep and switch off my brain.
But listening to your old podcast has been a huge help.
And it's been great.
It's been so nice to laugh at something.
Keep up the great work.
Oh, thank you so much.
We will.
We'll try.
No guarantees.
No guarantees, yeah.
I just want to shout out Patricia Bro from the Great Mates group.
Patricia Bro.
She sent us an email like years ago where she went to Phoenix Comic Con
and she represented this shirt.
I love that.
She mentioned it again and I ended up finding the email.
I'm like, oh, yeah, this is cool, whatever.
Anyway, been through a bunch of stuff.
Really nice person.
Really, like, great contributor to the group.
Brings great content, Mason, which is what we want.
We love content.
And, yeah, so I just wanted to shout Patricia out because she just seems
really super cool and nice and genuine.
So, yeah, thank you for all, like, the years of support,
the literal years, nearly a decade, Mason.
We're coming up on 500 episodes, which is too many of this show.
Yeah.
God.
Should wind it back.
Should we delete some?
Yes.
At random?
Yeah.
No, just like the last 50.
Oh, the most recent ones?
Yeah.
Great.
I love that.
All right.
Should we leave it there?
Let's leave it there, folks.
Thank you so much for listening to the podcast.
We absolutely appreciate it.
We're having a grand old time over here.
We'll never stop.
We'll never stop. We might never stop. We might though.
We might. We talked about how we'd stop
the other day, didn't we? That's right.
We're not planning on. No, we did.
We had some plans. We've got an exit strategy
which we'll never reveal until it happens.
Yeah, but no, no plans to do that.
That's right. Folks, thank you
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But also thanks for leaving a five-star review on your podcast,
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Do it in Apple.
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You know what I mean?
Because we're not under that umbrella.
That's right.
We can only trust you, the listener.
That's right.
Annoying your friends and coworkers.
That's right.
Like Connor from Wisconsin maybe who says,
Two Tools Podcast.
He says,
My Two Tools Podcasts that I look for are,
one, be fun and entertaining,
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This is the only podcast that's done that for me
in the last seven years now.
Thanks, boys.
You're very welcome.
Thank you, Connor.
And this is from DKenny54.
He says, amazing stuff.
Five stars, by the way.
Amazing stuff.
These fellas have some hot takes that will see the fuzz right off your peaches.
I have had a lot of fun listening to these guys,
and I even refer to them as my Aussie friends with my wife.
She still hasn't figured out that we've never actually met.
Well, you haven't figured out we actually have met.
We met you, brother.
No, I've met James' wife.
Claire is an amazing singer-songwriter.
You meet us once on the way up and once on the way down.
That's right.
What?
Such a talented family.
James, Claire, and their little baby, Mesa.
Keep up the great work, folks.
That's right.
Yeah.
Wah.
Wah.
That's Mesa for you.
That's right.
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Yep.
And everywhere else.
And everywhere else, yeah.
That's correct.
There's a couple of YouTube videos in the works
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I've been trying to do more of that.
Ooh.
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Ooh.
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Ah, let me tell you what else.
Thank you to the Brute and the Brute.
Not the Boot.
Not the Boot.
Thank you to your old Boot.
You're not wrong.
Wait, are you the old Boot?
I think I'm the Boot.
You're the old Boot.
Well, thank you, old Boot.
That's nice of you to say.
You're welcome.
Yeah.
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Or other stuff?
Maybe a pillow.
Get a pillow with our faces on it. Get a pillow with our face on it.
I mean, you'd probably get a pillow.
Yeah, that's right.
Let your dog sleep on it.
That's right.
Next week, something?
When's the creator out?
Blue Beetle?
Might be Blue Beetle.
I think we're Blue Beetling.
Okay.
Okay.
Great.
Love that.
Love that for us.
I guess we should see it.
I would like to see it.
Yeah.
No, me too.
I want to see how he defeats Red Blue Beetle. Probably by building big guns out of his coop. Yeah. No, me too. I want to see how he defeats Red to Blue Beetle.
Probably by building big guns out of his coop.
He's like, you can't do it, but then he remembers his family. Family, that's right.
And he does it.
Yeah, it's going to be good.
I like that.
Or fine.
Yep.
All right, thanks, everyone.
We could just cut and paste what you've said there.
That's right.
And take the week off.
Take the week off, yeah.
All right, thanks, everyone.
We'll wrap that jam, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
Goodbye.
the week off.
The week off, yeah.
All right, thanks everyone.
You can wrap that, Jim.
You guys, we'll see you next week.
Goodbye.
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