The Weekly Planet - 505 Madame Web & Three Hour Hunger Games Prequel
Episode Date: November 20, 2023Huge week for Sony and their universe of Spider-Man movies they consistently threaten us with! The Madame Web trailer is here. Plus we talk What If season 2, the recasting of Kang and a new direction ...for the Avengers movies (plus a hot scoop), Pedro Pascal joins the Fantastic Four probably, an update on Coyote vs Acme, our review of The Hunger Games: The Ballard Of Songbirds & Snakes and more! Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, lets play videos, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:00 Marvel's What If...? S2 Trailer05:12 Garfield & Anyone But You Trailers08:42 Madame Web Trailer21:52 Avengers: Kang Dynasty Hot Scoop (or shot of poop)27:19 Pedro Pascal Fantastic 4 Casting31:16 Superman: Legacy Villain Casting34:20 Coyote vs Acme Controversy Update36:48 The Marvels' Box Office Disaster37:51 Reacher S2 Trailer & Robo Wants An Oreo40:11 The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes Review (spoiler warning 56:46 to 01:01:40)01:01:40 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:05:57 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Red hot comic book movie news. Defenders of the Earth. Defenders. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday,
with me as always is my co-host Nick May.
Great to be here.
Isn't it just?
James, we're having a bit of fun off air.
Sure.
Which we don't like doing.
We don't like doing.
We'd rather not do it, honestly.
But you've hit a winner, James.
You've named the backup recorder, Recordo Montalban, which I think.
That's not anything.
No, it's not even a reference anybody gets anymore.
He's the guy from Fantasy Island.
And he's Khan.
Oh, yeah, he's Khan also.
He's the original Khan.
He's the original recipe Khan.
That's right.
So, yeah, big week this week, Mason, because
of course we're going to... Because of course you named the backup
recorder, Recordo Montalvan. That is a big deal, yes.
Big week, that's it. Everyone's talking about it.
Wrap it up, folks. That's what we did.
We are going to be talking about three-hour Hunger Game
prequel, but before we get to that, we've got
a bunch of trailers we've got to look at. Are you choked up
because you're so emotional? I'm so emotional, Mason.
About Recordo Montalvan. That's right.
It's good to change lives, you know?
Yeah. Often I feel like this doesn't
make a difference. Yeah, but I think
this will give people
the inspiration, I think,
to name things around their house.
Absolutely, yeah. Not as good
as that. No, obviously not.
Yeah, but you can name your
table Joe or whatever.
Yeah, whatever. Whatever. Just whatever Joe or whatever. Yeah, whatever.
Just whatever.
Just whatever.
Okay, so we've got trailers for What If Season 2, Garfield,
that other one, Anyone But You.
Look, I don't really want to talk about that.
We're going to talk about Madame Web, right? Of course we are, yeah.
We're not going to bury the lead here.
Everybody wants us to talk about the trailer for the latest entry
in the Spum, the Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel movies.
My goodness.
A movie that I thought was made up, quite frankly, for tax purposes.
But it turns out to be real.
Big week for Sydney Sweeney in movies.
Absolutely, yeah.
In movie trailers, certainly.
Because she's in this and she's in Anyone But You.
Exactly.
But who cares about that one?
Doesn't matter.
It'll be fine.
That movie will be fine.
It'll be fine.
It's set in Australia or whatever, I think.
We're also going to talk about Kang Dynasty,
the next Avengers movie, being retooled and moving away from Kang
and what's going on there because it's lost a director
and a writer apparently this week.
And there's a whole lot of Marvel casting as well,
including Reed Richards and some other names.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Going up for various characters, including Galactus.
Apparently, do you see, Superman as a villain,
the lead villain is being cast.
We'll talk about that in the next Superman movie.
There's been a turnaround on Coyote vs. Acme movie.
That's right.
The movie that was cancelled for tax purposes
and now might be brought back due to.
For public relations purposes.
Yes, exactly.
Well, and people not wanting to work with the Warner Brothers purposes.
Yes, exactly.
And then we're going to talk a little bit about the Marvels
and its second week box office performance.
And let me tell you, Mason, it's quite dire.
Boy, is it ever, yes.
And then we'll talk about three-hour Hunger Games prequel.
All right, Mason, do you want to talk about the What If trailer
for the next season?
What if?
Go on.
I thought it looked like a lot of fun.
Sure.
Let's do it.
Who's in it?
There's a Christmas episode.
There is a Christmas episode, which seems to be somewhat,
that's the funny one.
That's kind of Die Hard.
Die Hard.
Happy Hogan.
Happy Hogan and Darcy from the Thor movies is in that one.
It looks like this season, again, like the previous one,
it's going to have some unconnected what-ifs,
but then they're all maybe going to dovetail into one another.
Yep, absolutely.
Towards the end.
And this one, remember we got that list of what-if episode titles a while back?
Yeah.
Are they accurate?
I don't know if the titles necessarily were, but it seemed like the premises were mostly accurate.
The premises.
So we've got one here.
I think maybe the biggest one or the one that's most interesting to me is the –
I'll try those ahoy.
I'll try –
Yeah.
When, you know, in the Guardians movies,
Peter Quill was kidnapped from Earth as a child to be taken to his father,
who was Ego, a living planet.
But instead the Ravagers take him on as a Ravager.
But there seems to be a what if here where he's taken directly to Ego
and then they decide to go back to Earth and, you know, wreck it and stuff.
Wreck it and stuff.
And so Peter Quill goes back to Earth as a as a teenager but he's got
the ego powers and he's gonna cause a ruckus absolutely so like a 1990s yeah ish yeah that
seems about early 90s team has to form up which includes uh tachaka the black panther yep for
annette benning's character from captain marvel okay yep it was a cray yep uh others original Okay, yep. Who's a Kree. Yep. Others. Original Ant-Man. Original Ant-Man.
Michael Duglay.
Mr. Michael Duglay.
Yeah.
And Hayley Atwell's Peggy Carter as the head of S.H.I.E.L.D.
And maybe some other people.
Yeah, I don't hate that concept actually.
It looks like fun, yeah, sure.
All right.
I was just too excited about the Madame Web thing.
It's true, yeah.
You're right.
There are some good things on display.
And they're going to bring these out, I think it's like December 22nd,
and they're going to do one a day for nine days.
Yeah. Which is a very interesting way to do it. Like the nine 22nd and they're going to do one a day for nine days.
Yeah.
Which is a very interesting way to do it. Like the nine days of Christmas, the traditional nine days of Christmas.
Traditional nine days.
They should do 12, I think, just to tie into Christmas
and three of them can just be like, what if this happened?
No, it was basically the same.
But it didn't.
Don't worry about it.
It was the same?
It's basically the same.
Here's a clip of that movie.
Oh, what if it did but it didn't?
Just a guy shooting it down?
Yeah, okay. Well, it didn't did, but it didn't? Just a guy shooting it down? Yeah, okay.
Well, it didn't, though, did it?
Yeah.
I just want to quickly talk about the Garfield trailer
because just the design-wise,
like they've pushed everybody's eyes together
so it's one big goopy eye.
Now, somebody pointed this out.
I hate it.
Look at it.
Somebody pointed this out.
You know I hate it also.
Yeah.
Someone pointed it out on Twitter
and it's staggering that I never picked up on this.
Maybe it's not because I'm dumb.
Let's find out.
But that all these animated movies now have a pre, like a prologue where the main character
is a little version.
Yeah, okay.
So you can sell the merch of the little cute version.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So, you know.
Is it cuter than this version, the Bill Murray version?
No.
It's very cute.
It's got the same texture as the lasagna.
Yep, because he ate so much lasagna he turned into a lasagna.
Didn't you learn anything from your parents when they said,
don't eat so much lasagna, you'll turn into a lasagna?
I didn't learn anything from my parents.
They made sure of that, Mason.
That's right.
How do you feel about Chris Pratt's The Garfield?
It's just Chris Pratt's voice, isn't it?
But he's Garfield this time.
Oh, that's pretty good.
That's the twist. That's quite the twist't it? But he's Garfield this time. Oh, that's pretty good. That's the twist.
That's quite the twist.
And he's got a good agent. He certainly
does, yeah. I mean, it's, you know, Chris
Pratt, he knows what he's doing.
It's Garfield, it's fine. It's Garfield, it's fine.
But it's not like... Who cares?
He doesn't have a completely flat affect
like a lot of actors who go on to
voice acting do.
But also, why not just give him... He's not a terrible voice actor either. He's a bunch of voice who go on to voice acting do. But also why not just give him the –
He's not a terrible voice actor either.
He's a bunch of voice acting.
But also why doesn't Garfield have the same Garfield voice he's always had?
The one where he goes –
Yeah, exactly.
The Bill Murray voice.
The Bill Murray voice, exactly.
Or the Lorenzo music voice.
That's right.
It's a fun thing.
Yeah, and I guess Anyone But You, which is the big rom-com of the season.
That's right.
Rom-coms are back for good.
That's right, even though there were several this year and they all bombed.
But this is the one that'll do it.
This is the one, yeah.
Because it's got abs.
And we know the story this time around.
Yeah, so the premise is, because for people who don't remember,
the last trailer was a little bit disastrous in the sense that it didn't give anything away.
It was all vibes.
It was all sexy vibes.
It could have been a Mint Mobile commercial.
It could have been a Mint Mobile commercial.
But this one, so Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney's characters,
they went on a date once.
They ultimately decided they didn't like one another.
No.
But they're going on a destination wedding, yuck, to Sidney, double yuck.
Boo.
And it turns out they both, each one of them has somebody there
that they need to trick into thinking they're a couple.
That's right.
So they're going to do that.
But what if they fall in love?
I don't think they will.
Okay.
I think they'll.
Fall off the boat and drown?
Yeah, I think that's probably what's going to happen.
Yeah, okay.
I think they'll get with the people they want to get with.
I like that.
And that movie will end.
That seems, they don't seem like they like each other.
That's probably for the best.
Yeah, I think so too.
To be honest, yeah.
Oh, by the way, this time goes below
if you're doing a jump to anything.
I hope this movie ends with them both
not getting together and then
years later they encounter the people they were
trying to get with on this
farcical
vacation and
the woman's like, oh, you were
trying to make me jealous but you appeared
to have a girlfriend so I didn't do anything.
Why would I mean, like, basic societal convention would suggest
that I wouldn't try and get with you if you had a girlfriend.
It would have been more attractive if you were secure in yourself
and weren't chasing anything.
That's right.
And were just being a cool guy.
Or just ask me out on a date like normal, you know?
Or maybe you had a cool car.
Yeah, cool car.
Yeah, that's the key to anything, isn't it?
Or you had abs.
Or had abs, yeah.
Oh.
Oh, my God.
Oh.
Well, I'm going to jump off this boat then.
Oh, my God.
Anyway, forget all that.
Don't even worry about it.
Because, Mason, next up we've got the fabled,
or some even say much maligned, in association with Marvel tag at the start of this trailer.
I would say it's a guarantee of badness.
Yeah.
Bad to fine?
No, bad to less bad, but still bad.
So you don't like either of the, I thought you liked one of the Venom movies maybe.
It's fine.
I mean, I haven't gone back to it.
That's what I said, bad to fine.
Have we done a commentary on Venom 1?
Maybe.
See?
We don't know.
Did we?
It feels like something we would have done.
Yeah, but then we didn't.
Or we did.
Yeah, that's right.
So I just don't know.
Let me check.
There are people screaming at their iPods right now.
They're like, you didn't, you stupid idiots.
I don't think we have.
Okay.
Well, maybe that's next on the list.
Yeah.
Maybe it'll reignite my love for the Spum universe.
Hang on.
Somebody who's kind enough,
Raw Collings actually, of course, who edits this,
has put the list up on Reddit, and no, we haven't done it.
And if anybody knows, it's him.
Yep.
We haven't done any Spum, I don't think.
Anyways, Mason.
So basically, madam.
It's time for the ladies to do some Spum.
That's right.
Let me just say this, all right? Let me just say this, and we say this a lot. Maybe I say it a lot. Anything basically, madam. It's time for the ladies to do some spam. That's right. Let me just say this, all right?
Let me just say this, and we say this a lot.
Maybe I say it a lot.
Anything can be good.
Not this, though.
No, wait.
The director of this is S.J. Clarkson.
She's directed episodes, mostly TV, but Jessica Jones' Succession,
Anatomy of a Scandal was a recent series, which was quite good.
She's worked on genuinely good things.
Okay.
But this is spam we're talking about, so this is going to be terrible.
The bar is low, but the standards at the studio are also low.
That's right.
That's their slogan.
That's what it says when you come into their offices.
It's above the desk of the receptionist.
Just two bars to trip over on your way in, one after the other.
In fact, that's all you have to do to get the gig
is there's two bars and you just have to hop them.
Yeah.
No, I think they'd give them to you if you tripped over them.
If you cleared them, they'd be like, absolutely not.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We don't do that here.
What do you think?
You're too good for us?
No, but I just went over the get out.
Get out.
So somebody mentioned that this looks like one of those movies
that was revealed in the Sony hack.
Remember they were like, Aunt May is a spy and it's the 70s.
Yeah, right.
You know, it's like, I don't know.
I can't even think of another example.
Just terrible nonsense.
Yeah, uh-huh.
You know?
I mean, because there's like Ben Parker is in this.
It's Adam Scott this time around.
Which is like, the cast is good.
And, you know, even the idea of like there's an evil Spider-Man
that they have to defeat.
First of all, I was going to say the thing you said earlier,
which I was going to make fun of, which is anything can be good.
You're right.
And again, the reason the Avengers line up is the way it is in the movies
is because those characters didn't sell.
And they were just available and they made it work
and they got stars that were-
They also put them in costumes.
They sure did.
And individual movies.
And they made just a, they made a,
they told some tall tales about them that weren't even real.
Yeah.
They weren't even real stories about those actors.
True.
But, you know, so these characters could be good.
Yeah.
You know, they are all pre-existing Spider-Man characters,
which is why Spum gets first crack at it.
But you don't just want to go, let's just make a Spider-Woman movie?
Yeah.
Like why is it four different Spider-Women?
And I can guarantee it because we get glimpses of them in the costumes
and whatever, but I reckon that's a look into the future
or a bit at the end maybe.
No, that's 100% the final battle.
Yeah, I don't even think it is.
I would be shocked if that was in the actual movie.
The premise is kind of interesting, I thought.
I agree.
Or at least initially.
Also, by the way, this trailer has, I think,
pretty much the whole movie in it.
So if you don't want to know anything about it,
don't watch the trailer or listen to us talk about it right now.
Skip ahead.
So Dakota Johnson's character is getting visions.
She's got Nicolas Cage's next powers from the movie Next.
Or Knowing?
No.
Maybe it's a combination of Nicolas Cage's next powers
and Nicolas Cage's Knowing powers.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
They're two of his best powers.
She's got Next Knowing.
So she's receiving visions that there is something.
Because she died.
She did.
She fell into a multiverse maybe?
She fell into some water.
Yeah.
She's a paramedic.
Because Madam Web in the comics is like a woman who's like 90 years old
and sits in a big web chair.
One of the versions of Madam Web.
Okay, calm down, nerd.
But I think the current version is a pre-existing, was a spider woman.
Okay, right.
Like one of the spider women like the.
But this one has the name of original Madam Web, right?
Or she doesn't, I don't know.
Madam Web?
Yeah, sure.
I don't know, man.
There's a lot about this that I'm not even going to pretend that I know.
But anyway, she was a paramedic because she loves to save lives.
It's very noble.
But she drowns and then she comes back with next knowing powers.
Yep.
Nicolas Cage next knowing powers.
Mm-hmm.
Nicolas' next knowing powers.
And she keeps receiving visions of a Spider-Man-esque character
who keeps murdering her and a bunch of other women.
Yes.
And I thought that was quite interesting.
Yeah.
Because it's like, you know, if you're in a Spider-Man universe,
there'd be weirdo copycats and psychopaths.
And this one happens to have actual spider powers, it seems, because.
Or at least murder powers.
Sure.
But he can jump and swing, maybe.
Maybe.
Strangle.
Sure.
But there's a moment where she's like, what's the line?
Because her mother is associated, much like this is in association with Marvel,
with spider research in the jungle.
Ezekiel Sims.
Yeah.
He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died,
which I think is a line that has been like 80 yards specifically for the trailer.
Yeah.
I imagine it's probably been patched together from other dialogue in the movie.
They've like, but also you don't need this for the.
Absolutely not.
You don't need it for the trailer.
Why is it in the trailer?
He can just be a guy murdering people.
What's going on?
Yeah. That should be the line. What's going on? Yeah.
That should be the line.
What's going on?
What's going on?
Can somebody explain this to me?
Do I have the knowing powers or the next powers?
Well, he was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died.
Yeah, man.
So there.
Yeah, so there.
And he wants to kill all the spider women because he also has the Nicolas Cage next to knowing powers, I think.
Maybe.
Or she suspects that he does.
And the thing is, every time he goes and kills them, she can see the future and then she can go in and circum I think. Maybe. Or she suspects that he does. And the thing is, every time he goes and kills them,
she can see the future and then she can go in and circumvent that.
Maybe.
And then she's constantly on the run using the Nicolas Cage
next to Knowing Powers, which is quite good.
Also, I think this was said in the 90s.
I don't know.
It's hard to say, isn't it?
It might be.
Because if it's...
It's like Ben Parker's like, oh, he's a bit old.
But nothing about it.
But nothing suggests, like nothing in the...
No, there's a computer. There's like a 90s-ish. But nothing suggests, like nothing in the... No, there's a computer.
There's like a 90s-ish computer.
Okay, I was going to say nothing about the clothing or whatever
gives any suggestion.
No, it's just a red leather jacket and civvies on everyone else.
Yeah.
But I think it...
We all know each other.
We're connected like a web.
Oh, you know each other like knowing?
That's the first clue that it's the knowing powers,
not the next powers, isn't it?
A bunch of things. I saw a little
clip of Dakota Johnson. She was like, I've always
loved Marvel movies. Okay. No, you
haven't. Settle that. And if you did, you wouldn't do this.
You wouldn't do this. Avoid this specifically.
You'd do it.
It's okay. But I get also, like, we'll talk
about Rachel Zegler later in this episode.
But I guess
women can't just say it's a job like it's
like i wanted the job they offered me the job they said you look like this character you want
eight million dollars yeah you look like this character from the comic books do you want to
do this job you're a good actor whatever yes i'll take it you can't say that because people will get
mad at you but whereas they won't if you're a male actor and just be like job's a job
yeah like tony gilroy who's a job and I love it.
Yeah, like Tony Gilroy who's doing like Andor is like,
I fucking hate Star Wars.
He says that in every interview and we love him for it.
Yeah, I was trying to ruin it.
I was trying to ruin it with politics because Star Wars
has never had politics in it so I decided I'd inject some politics
in it and they'd fire me and ruin Star Wars.
Yeah, man.
But I accidentally made the best joke.
Oh, god damn it.
Anyway, what were we talking about? Madame Web. Yeah. We could do a whole episode on Madame Web, the trailer, I think. Oh, dude. But I accidentally made the best joke. Oh, God damn it. Anyway, what were we talking about?
Madam Web.
Yeah.
We could do a whole episode on Madam Web, the trailer, I think.
Oh, dude.
Maybe we're going to.
I mean, yeah, the movie we probably will.
Probably won't.
Don't you think?
No, I don't think we will.
What are you doing on Valentine's Day 2024 when this comes out?
I'm delivering big boxes of heart-shaped chocolates to people
and then I'm going to have to deal with the police arriving
and so on and so forth.
This is a very romantic date for a Spider-Man movie.
Absolutely it is, yeah.
What were we talking about?
It feels flat.
Like all the dialogue feels really flat.
It's so weird, yeah.
And it's like, I mean, again, it's a trailer.
The chemistry is like often weird and stilted and it's.
Oh, that's what we were going to say.
So it's probably set in the 90s because my guess would be she's going
to receive a premonition that Ben Parker is going to.
Peter Parker at some point?
Well, yeah, he's going to get Peter Parker or they have to, you know,
he has to live to raise Peter Parker to become Spider-Man.
So they have to save him and he's going to get Final Destination.
Oh, my God.
But she's going to use her next knowing powers to figure out how to stop that.
Okay, gotcha.
Because so the villain is a guy called Ezekiel Sims.
Yes.
As I understand.
And he was part of that totem storyline in the Spider-Man.
Which is that?
So pre-Spider-Verse with all the Spider-Man vampires and et cetera.
Sure.
The premise was.
Morlan.
Yeah, Morlan. Yeah. Morlan will be in the end creditsMan vampires and et cetera. Sure. The premise was. Morlin. Yeah, Morlin.
Yeah.
Morlin will be in the end credits.
Oh, my God.
And it will have to be something to do with Spider-Man.
Yeah.
If I had to guess.
You thought you had the next knowing powers.
Well, I've got them even bigger.
And I'm a vampire, I think.
Yeah, man.
You'd agree, won't you, Vulture, who never lifts his mask
to show that it's Michael Keaton?
Yeah.
What about you, Morbius?
I'm Morbius.
I'm a different type of vampire.
Oh, yeah, he's a vampire too.
But when we're hanging out, even though you're clearly a villain
and I'm Morbius and I'm a hero in this universe.
Because we're building towards the worst Sinister Six
combination of people.
Yeah, we got Morlin.
Yeah, we got him.
We've got evil Spider-Man and Jared Leto's Morbius.
And another evil Spider-Man.
We got Venom.
And we got Toxin or something.
I don't know.
We got Toxin.
Toxin's there.
That's something to do with Spider-Man, I imagine.
No doubt.
Yeah.
Anyway, so Ezekiel, so there was the premise a few years ago.
I say a few years ago, probably 15 years ago.
They tried to retcon Spider-Man's origin to change his powers slightly.
Okay.
So the idea was that it wasn't the radioactive spider
that altered Peter Parker's DNA that gave him spider powers.
It was that there were like a supernat there are like supernatural
totems in the form of animals and they can transfer their powers to you via magic can i just say
something go on i fucking hate this pretty good right and so the idea was that this there was a
spider that wanted to give its powers to peter parker okay and it had to do it because they
couldn't speak english couldn't speak english and also was dying because the radiation but that was
unrelated okay so then it bites peter parker and it gives him the spider powers yep but then i do it because the fact- But it couldn't speak English. Couldn't speak English and also was dying because of the radiation, but that was unrelated. Okay.
So then it bites Peter Parker and it gives him the spider powers.
Yep.
But then I guess because the spider powers didn't entirely translate, which is why he
doesn't, he can't shoot his own webs.
He has to build the web shooters.
But then he went-
Remember around the time when he became organic web shooter Spider-Man?
So he got cocooned and when then he came out, he held organic web shooters.
And I think he's back to normal now.
He is, yeah.
Normal-ish.
He sealed them up.
He hot glued them and shot.
That's exactly right.
He used Sully's No More Gaps.
Gross.
Corked up all his holes.
So gross.
Anyway, so this is one of those totem guys.
And he's got Spider-Man powers because of magic.
And maybe he ate some spiders.
I don't know.
He was working in the jungle with his mother.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He ran into a spider. I'm not even entirely sure he's a bad guy in the comic books
because I didn't read any of this because it's bad.
Yeah, sure.
Well, it could be really good.
You can't pass that judgment.
You should read it all and then tell me whether it's bad
because I'm not going to read it because I think it's bad.
Anyway, he's that guy because he's available, I guess. Well, he just but again anything can be good yeah but again as as an idea i thought it was quite i thought they were like oh this is a
sort of final destination horror they're gonna you know it's it's them attempting to survive this
this supernaturally strong spider-man type character that's a bit of fun yeah but i think
it's going to degenerate into where they all get
spider powers at the end and they beat him up.
I don't think they're going to do the suits because one of them's got
like the metal arms and that.
And where are you even getting those at this point, you know?
What are they going to?
Totems.
No, it's magic.
It's magic.
Sorry.
Is it?
Sorry, I don't make the rules.
It's magic.
I hate.
All right, cool.
Look, I tell you, I give Spum this.
Yes?
You're keeping me on my toes.
I never know what you're going to do.
Right?
I never thought this was real, but it's real, man.
Okay, so it's Sydney Sweeney, Celeste O'Connor, and Isabella Merced,
as Julia Carpenter, Maddie Franklin, and Anya Corazon.
Cool.
Which you think is Spider-Woman, different Spider-Woman, and Silk, I think.
Okay, right, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's going to be magic powers and magic costumes.
Well, some spider people are magic, you know.
That's what I'm saying, man.
That's what we know.
Yeah.
God, that's what we know.
Anyway, should we move it along?
Yes, unless you have anything more to say about.
God, it feels like the end of the episode.
Should we go to bed and come back tomorrow?
We're going to talk about this.
Okay.
So Kang Dynasty, which is the first of the next two Avengers movies,
might be being retooled to move away from Jonathan Majors as Kang.
I have a hot scoop or shot of poop.
We can do that too.
So when do you want to work that in?
Do you want to go through this and then you mention it?
No, you do this.
So if you watch the end of Loki, Mason, I don't know whether you have yet,
there's very much the end they're like, oh, we got all the Kangs
and we're going to get all the Kangs.
Don't worry, we're going to keep getting all the Kangs.
But according to Deadline, Destin Daniel Cretton,
who he's departed the Avengers Kang dynasty and he was set to direct,
so instead of that he's going to be working on Shang-Chi 2
and the Wonder Man series, which also might be retooled or cancelled,
I don't know. And then according to
The Ringer and Joanna Robinson
specifically, who wrote the book recently
on the MCU and The Rise and etc.,
and she's had a lot of scoops in relation to this,
she said, I heard from somebody recently, the screenwriter
Jeff Loveness, who wrote Quantumania,
who was supposed to write the Kang Dynasty. Anyways,
it's confirmed. I had it confirmed to me he's no longer
working for Marvel. Ask the person why and they said the reason why is because he was all wrapped up with the Kang Dynasty. Anyways, it's confirmed. I had it confirmed to me he's no longer working for Marvel.
Ask the person why.
And they said the reason why is because he was all wrapped up with the Kang storyline and they are likely going to be moving away from that.
Oh.
Yeah.
Now, James, here is our sometimes repeated segment,
Hot Scoop or Shot of Poop.
Love it.
Let's go.
Our listener provides us with a tip, some behind-the-scenes scuttlebutt, some
absolute scandalous material.
And we have to, and it might be a hot scoop, but then again, it might be a shot of poop
because anybody can email in, obviously, weeklyplanetpot at gmail.com.
Correct.
Look, there's some ground rules here.
There's a hot scoop, obviously.
If it turns out to not be true, you have to do a shot of poop.
Yeah.
I don't make the rules.
But it's never been not true, luckily, so far. That's true, yeah. If it turns out to not be true, you have to do a shot of poop. I don't make the rules. But it's never been not true, luckily.
That's true, yeah.
We've always been right.
The shot of poop keeps getting bigger.
Let's see what this random person has to say.
Hang on, there's one more rule, as you well know,
James. If this is reported
in the real media, as opposed
to the fake media, which is us,
they have to say that it's
from the podcast, The Weekly Planet, and their segment, Hot Scoop or Shot of Poop.
That's right.
And if you don't, you're a dog.
That's all I'm saying.
You can still do it.
People will harass you as well.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Which has nothing to do with us.
Now, I won't give this person's name.
Okay.
But they emailed in and they said Kang Tip, and they provided their IMDB page.
Okay.
Well, I mean, anybody can do that.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying, you know.
That's what I'm saying.
But they're like, this is to prove I'm legit.
Dear James and Mace, so long time
listener, thank you for helping get me through COVID
and the more recent world crisis, the WGAS
SAG strike. You're welcome.
We were administering those shots and
picketing every day. That's exactly right.
While working on the movie Devotion,
which you recall is the Glenn Powell, Jonathan Majors
fighter pilot fighter pilot movie. Yeah. While working on the movie Devotion, which you recall is the Glenn Powell, Jonathan Majors.
Fighter pilot.
Fighter pilot movie.
Yeah.
While working on the movie Devotion,
I was friends with one of Jonathan Majors' people during our filming JM closed the Kang deal.
I remember asking said friend about it and they shared some details,
X number of movies, X number of dollars.
And more interestingly, due to the nature of the character
and potential multiple versions, JM had a contract clause stating that only he could play any and all versions of Kang.
Oh, that's interesting.
This likely explains why the rumors are dumping Kang for Doom instead of recasting.
Yeah.
Because as we know, Kang is a multiverse guy and he could be anything.
Yeah.
Like he could be anyone.
He could just recast immediately.
He could be a lizard.
Yeah.
They could just go, oh, time travel shenanigans.
He looks like this now. Yeah. So. That's very interesting. If could be a lizard. Yeah, they could just go, oh, time travel shenanigans, he looks like this now.
Yeah.
So.
That's very interesting.
If true.
If true.
Yeah.
If true.
Anyway, that's our hot scoop or shot of poop.
But I guess there'd also be a clause of like.
There would be a.
If it was proven that like it was something like that he did something
that came out.
Yeah.
Then that would issue make this all void.
There would be.
It's going to be a while to get to that point though, right?
It would be a morals clause, I guess.
Like don't bring the –
But that's pretty – like why fight that when you could just move away?
That's true, yeah.
It would be like a don't bring the company into disrepute kind of situation.
Again, I mean maybe lawyers are working on both.
Maybe one side is like one way and the other side is like a different way.
Yeah, yeah.
Some would suggest that I lost my train of thought in the middle of that sentence.
No, no, no.
I didn't think so.
Yeah, seamless, right?
It was absolutely beautiful and seamless.
If I were a Hollywood screenwriter, they'd call me Jeff Seamless.
Would they?
Yeah.
Okay, great.
You can just use your real name or whatever.
No, I'd be Jeff Seamless.
Now, it's interesting.
I came across this list because they're obviously looking for a new actor to take on a new villain, and whether
it be like a Doctor Doom or Mephisto or
whatever. Yep. You know, a chair with
a sword. Doesn't matter. A chair with a sword?
Yes.
The sword is on the chair? Yeah, yeah. Leaning against it?
Absolutely. Great. And I want to avoid controversy,
right? So this list, this is what it includes. And I didn't make
this up. This is a real list. These are the names that they've got
that I think they should bring in. Starting to think it makes this list up.
They've got Sean Penn as one of them.
A guy with famously no legal troubles.
Nothing shady in his past.
Jared Leto. Well, he's
already morbid, so he could probably just work that in.
And he's normal. And no one's
ever said anything about that guy.
It says here, the bones and ghost of Michael
Jackson. Oh, I see what you're doing here.
Again, this is a list.
The next one is, the doctor that killed Michael Jackson. Oh, I see what you're doing here. No, again, this is a list. Okay. The next one is The Doctor
That Killed Michael Jackson.
And the last one just says Dr. Phil.
So look, none of these are my
top choices. I understand. And I think a lot of these
aren't even controversy free.
Would you say? Yeah, absolutely.
So, you know, but whatever. It's not
really up to me. Where did you get that list?
Somebody, um, it was
on Twitter. On Twitter? It was on X. Wow, so if I list? Somebody, it was on Twitter.
On Twitter.
It was on X.
Wow.
So if I just searched on Twitter for all those names.
Yeah, but it's not working very well as a platform.
No, that's actually true.
That's actually true.
Anyways, here's some casting that we know for sure, though, probably.
Multiple trades have reported this.
It's probably, I would even say definitely a lock, but Pedro Pascalcal is reed richards yeah okay now that that has not been confirmed i only know this because the community
note i would say it's been confirmed everything short of marvel saying it okay i think they're
waiting to cast everybody and then they will make the announcement yeah right yeah so apparently
according to the in snyder i think they should reveal the cast over five days.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Because Doctor Doom is the last one.
No, no, no.
They do.
They leave a date.
They do three, and then they do somebody's first name,
and then their last name the day after.
Brilliant.
Yeah.
So apparently they wanted Jake Gyllenhaal, but he was too much money.
There was a similar situation a while back with Adam Driver.
I like this casting of pedro
pascal i think my only concern would be like he's like nearly 50 and he's got there's probably going
to be 9 to 12 years of movies well i'm also thinking does he want to do that this i mean a
lot of people have questioned why is it taking so long to reveal this cast yeah you know because
they haven't locked it well because they haven't locked it and the reason they haven't locked it
is because at this point nobody wants to lock themselves into ten years of movies in what might be a sinking ship.
Like maybe this movie turns it all around.
I hope it does.
Maybe the spum takes off.
Maybe spum takes off.
And everyone flees to the spum.
That's exactly right.
Give me more of that spum, they'll say.
As much as I can handle, which is all of it.
That's right.
So, yeah, like nobody wants to be – I'm sure there are people out –
and also, you know, established actors,
if you haven't been cast in a Marvel movie now,
it's probably – it might be because their representatives are like,
don't do it.
Yeah.
Don't do it, man.
Let's just see.
Let's just see what happens.
I might, you know, and a lot of them might be like, you know, like a Brie Larson, an Academy just see. Yeah. Let's just see what happens. I might, you know, and a lot of them might be like,
you know,
like a Brie Larson and an Academy Award winner.
Yeah.
Where they're like,
you want to deal with this?
You want to deal with this for 10 years?
Yes.
Great.
Do you?
I don't.
I wouldn't want to do it.
Absolutely not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You get millions of dollars,
wouldn't you?
That's true.
That's a good part of it.
That's probably one of the upsides.
No.
Well,
I reckon he would.
Yeah.
I mean,
because he's in,
he's in Star Wars.
He's in the last,
we sort of in Star Wars. Yeah., because he's in Star Wars. He's in the last. He's sort of in Star Wars.
Yeah.
He's not really in Star Wars anymore.
But he's doing a million things.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
But I think I would never have picked him.
Like, this is the name that I would not have, like, even considered.
But he's got.
His range is incredible.
Like, I think this is fine.
This will probably hopefully work out.
The Insider have also said that Javier Bardem is being eyed for Galactus.
What I love about that is he has a big face.
You've seen his big emotive face?
It's crazy.
Yeah, so I like that a lot as well, if that is true.
I think the other rumors that have been flying around.
Also –
Vanessa Kirby, Sue Storm.
Vanessa Kirby, Sue Storm, the guy from –
The Bear.
Edmund Mossback is the thing and then the guy from Stranger Things.
Yes.
Eddie.
Who has a real name also.
Has a real name and I nearly had it but then I'd forgotten it.
I mean they've fan cast before.
Joseph Quinn.
There we go.
Rosario Dawson, you know, is Ahsoka because there was a Boss Logic edit
where she looks like –
Yeah.
And, you know, a lot of behind the scenes stuff happened in the meantime.
Yeah, they cast her. They cast her, yeah. They did looks like. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of behind the scenes stuff happened in the meantime. Yeah, they cast her.
They cast her, yeah.
They did, yeah.
Absolutely.
So that's fun, isn't it?
Yeah.
So there you go.
Fantastic Four.
I imagine by the end of the year we'll probably, if not soon,
we'll know that full cast.
Yes.
Or not.
Yeah.
I think they should do one a month for six months.
Five months.
Six months.
Okay, great.
Terrific. Or they could just not tell us. months. Five months. Six months. Okay, great. Terrific.
Or they could just not tell us.
Sure.
I'm happy with that.
Don't tell us and then give us a trailer.
We'll figure it out when the movie starts.
Absolutely.
When the characters are introduced.
But then you'll spend the whole movie going,
what's his name?
He's in Stranger Things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's his name?
And then in the final battle where they're fighting
Javier Bardem's giant face, I'll be like,
Joseph Quinn.
I'll stand up and, Joseph Quinn!
I knew it!
None of you knew it. No, they didn't know.
So by deadline, Maria Gabriela
DeFaria has been cast to play the
DC villain, The Engineer, also known as
Angela Spicer?
Speaker. Okay. The character
is a member of the superhero team, The Authority.
That's correct, yeah. I don't know anything about this character.
Go.
She's got nanotech blood.
That's it?
So she's all silver.
Oh, that one.
I know that one.
She's all silver and nanotech, and so she has a silver sheath look,
and she can morph out big guns and stuff.
That's pretty cool.
And do you reckon she'd be the lead villain,
or do you reckon the Authority would be a bunch of villains within the Authority?
Well, here's the thing.
So what's interesting, does it say specifically she's been cast
as a villain?
I believe so, yes.
Okay, well, it might be.
I think what they're doing is they're using elements
of the Authority, which was a Wildstorm image series
about like a team of incredibly powerful superheroes
who decide to take an active role in making the world better in the image universe.
Yes.
And then DC had the Elite, which were like a parody of them,
who decided Superman wasn't cool and super enough.
Wasn't killing enough.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I think they're probably combining aspects of that.
Like the Elite start out as villains and then some of them reform.
Right, okay.
So I think that's maybe what they're doing with that.
Yeah, okay.
Also this, something that was pointed out to me,
and again it's obvious in hindsight,
is that all the characters thus far that have been cast in this,
like all the supporting superheroes, are legacy characters
and it's Superman legacy.
Oh, okay.
So they're all like, they're all dealing with their own legacy. So it's superman legacy so they're all okay they're all like they're all dealing
with their own legacy so it's it's the engineer the second version of something some of them are
so so the engineer she's the second version right and was the first version like just a guy in a
trench coat it was pretty much just a guy in a trench coat yeah it's often um uh well he also
had the nanotech powers anyway um but then we we've got the Green Lantern is Guy Gardner.
Yep.
Is he second?
No, he's not second, but he's like, you know, subsequent.
And then we've got Mr. Terrific, who's the second Mr. Terrific.
And I think whoever else is, and it's Hawk Woman.
Yeah.
And I think she's.
Second Hawk Woman.
She might be the second Hawk Woman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Was there a Hawk Woman in Black Adam?
Or was there only a Hawkman?
It was only a Hawkman.
Good movie.
Good movie?
Yeah.
Good movie.
Yeah, great movie.
Yeah, great movie.
Yeah, great movie.
In hindsight, it did a lot better.
Like we rinsed it at the time, but it's doing a lot better
than a bunch of movies this year.
I tell you that much, Mason.
I didn't hate it.
I was glad to tell you that much.
It was fun.
Do you think that this movie is being overwhelmed
by supporting characters that aren't Superman? Because if it was a normal movie, there's just people hate it. I was glad he'd tell you that much. It was fun. Do you think that this movie is being overwhelmed by supporting characters that aren't Superman?
No, because if it was a normal movie, there's just people in it.
Nice.
You know, there's a lot of people in a movie.
It's fine.
I don't think they're all going to get 40 minutes of screen time.
No, that's true, yeah.
And also, yeah, I think, again,
if I'm critical of the Christopher Reeve movies, and I am.
What's that?
That's right.
It's just a lot of Superman fighting regular guys.
Sure.
And, you know, it's nice to see him battle people of equal power.
And not only that, like variations in powers.
Yeah.
Which I quite like as well.
All right.
Coyote versus Acme Mason.
Oh, yes.
Just a few things to start off with.
Phil Lord, who you might know as Phil Lord Crispello.
Not personally.
You don't know him?
Spider-Verse, other things, worked on whatever Lego movies.
He said, Cody versus Acme is wonderful.
Dr. D. Green machine nails it.
Hilarious, smart, existential, and moving,
and makes his all-time character more relevant than ever.
So there's a bunch of people coming out saying,
I've seen this and I love it.
It might even be the best Warner Brothers movie.
The US Congress have called for an investigation
into these kind of shenanigans.
Well, one guy did.
One guy did, yeah.
Probably for clout.
Probably for cool clout.
But Park News came out and said, backlash!
Warner Brothers have now opted to allow the filmmakers behind
Cody vs. Acme to search for another distributor.
Cody vs. Acme screenings are now being set up for streaming services
such as Amazon Prime, Video, Apple, and Netflix.
So because of the public outcry about this and so they are actually
going to potentially let people see this movie that they already made,
that they were then going to shelve to save $30 million
but also ultimately lose a bunch of money on it.
Exactly, yeah.
And so, yeah, so there was a great public backlash
but I think probably the, as I understand it,
the main reason for this backtracking is because a lot of people
with some clout who are going to make movies with Warner Brothers
or make stuff, maybe animation or TV or whatever,
contacted Warner Brothers and were like,
we're reconsidering being a part of working with you.
If you're just going to do this.
Yeah, if you're just going to do this.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaking of Warner Brothers, this is great news as well.
The New York Times did a profile on David Zaslav. i love that guy brothers yeah he's a good and he's normal
he's normal if i was going to pick a word to describe him it would be normal he said in terms
of the strikes that happened uh he said they were right about almost everything so what if we
overpay i've never regretted overpaying for great talent or a great asset this fucking guy
you're overpaid david zazlav you're being paid to ruin this out for months it is are you kidding me
it is astounding that the board has not he must be like such a like such a smooth talker or they're
all bored or they're all incredibly stupid they're all stupid, you're right. What are we doing? But just the nerve to be like, yeah,
it's good actually, what happened.
Fuck you.
Alright, let's move it along just quickly, Mason.
What do you mean? Also, this thing about overpower,
oh, I've never...
You've underpaid everybody.
You have nothing. If you don't have
the writers and the performers and the directors, you have nothing.
That's right, yeah. Anyways, before we
talk about 3-Hour Hunger Games prequel,
The Marvels is having a bad
second week box office run.
We know last week it broke records in terms of being
the lowest opening for a
MCU movie. Apparently
it's going to be lucky to make $10 million in its
second weekend. It earns
$2.8 million on Friday, which
is down a staggering 87%
from its opening day last week, which
also wasn't great then.
This is the biggest second week drop for an MCU film ever.
What's the other one?
Oh, that's the biggest.
What's the next lowest, I wonder?
Probably Ant-Man, maybe?
Yeah, maybe Ant-Man.
Last Ant-Man?
I don't know.
But yeah, like, you know, we did talk about maybe this is a thing that will, you know,
they leave it in cinemas and it, you know, gets a bit of momentum.
But no, this is dead.
Yeah. This is going to be on streaming by tomorrow. Yuck. that they leave it in cinemas and it gets a bit of momentum. But no, this is dead.
This is going to be on streaming by tomorrow.
Yuck.
There you go.
Anyway, it's fine.
I thought it was all right.
It was fun.
Yeah, it's fun.
It is what it is.
People are doing a little song and dance.
As we said, I think there should have been more song and dance.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
In the movie itself.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, all right.
Should we move it along?
Let's move it along.
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Did somebody say three-hour Hunger Games prequel? No. Oh, no, I did earlier, moments ago. But there
was a little break. Yeah, we took a break yeah we took a break we took a break you were concerned that the uh the we perhaps not recorded anything but we do
have the backup recorder recorder model so it's fine here's a couple of uh just before we get
started here's a couple of uh pieces of news that i i wanted to squeeze in but uh you one you you
you were not interested in season i didn't say the trailer for season two of reacher and i own
yeah but the only reason i uh mentioned this was like a week ago but the only reason i you were not interested in in season two. I didn't say that. The trailer for season two of Reacher. Oh, yeah, I'm not interested in that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the only reason I – this was like a week ago.
But the only reason I was interested in talking about it
is because someone on Twitter, I think it was Vice Victus on Twitter,
called him the vanilla gorilla.
I'm like, that's good stuff.
That is very good stuff.
He absolutely is.
Yeah, cool. And the other thing,
I don't know if you saw this, there's
a documentary that came out
this week, or at least some
clips of it. RoboDoc, which
is the creation of the RoboDoc. Oh, is this the Peter Weller
format Oreos? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there is a
anecdote from, I think,
one of the armory guys,
one of the stunt coordinators on the original RoboCop.
Yep.
Should we just get Collings to play it?
Should we just play the clip?
Yeah, I guess so.
But look, I'll describe it.
In the interim, I'll describe it.
Maybe we'll play it at the end of the show.
So the stunt guy is handing Peter Weller his big Robocop gun
so he can do a particular scene and he's also carrying like a –
he's got a big handful of Oreos.
And Peter Weller looks at this guy and he says,
Robo wants an Oreo.
And the guy says, listen, it's just you and me up here.
We're doing this scene.
I'm the only one here.
If Peter wants an Oreo, You can have one, but
you don't have to do the thing where you're in character.
And then he marches off to
like a
vantage point over the scene and he starts
yelling Robo wants an Oreo.
And what I love about that is that
he would have done it, you know,
in RoboCop 2 where there's a point where he's trying to
find out where the drugs are from and he's like, where
is it made?
It'll be that cadence and it'll be like, Robo wants an Oreo.
And then it escalates.
Then Peter Weller interjects at the very end, which is,
anyway, we'll play it at the end.
It's very good.
Anyway, three-hour Hunger Games prequel.
Here we go, Mason.
On a budget of $130 million, though, according to Variety,
it's only $100 million.
Ooh, when that $30 million disappears.
Great question.
Or Rachel Zegler's pockets.
No doubt.
The box office return on this is a $45 million US opening,
which is short of the $50 million that was projected.
This is well under the others.
They open about $100 million plus each.
Well, it's been a bloody long time between drinks, I tell you what.
It's also, yeah, it's okay, like in terms of numbers,
but it'll have to like, it'll have to grow and whatever
over the coming weeks to be considered a massive
smashing success.
What is incredible about this movie is, first of all,
what do you think the story was?
Oh, come on, mate.
Yeah.
All right, so it's a prequel to The Hunger Games.
Yeah. But it's still The Hunger Games.
They're doing some Hunger Games.
And it's just early days for The Hunger Games.
They're working out the format.
Yeah, sure.
Why aren't people watching The Hunger Games?
I don't know, maybe because you put an eight-year-old girl
with Down syndrome in a fighting arena.
Exactly, and then somebody's going to dome her with a brick or whatever.
Like, what's happening here?
Yeah.
Unbelievable. It's bad.'s happening here? Yeah. Unbelievable.
It's bad.
It's unpleasant.
Yeah.
But then, who might reinvigorate the Hunger Games?
Who's going to do it?
But a young whiz kid, a beautiful, handsome Mr Snow.
Blonde hair.
Donald Sutherland's character, except it's not Donald Sutherland.
It's a younger man.
His name's Tom Blythe.
Portraying him in the past.
That's right, yeah.
Which is our future. Whoa. If indeed this Tom Blythe. Portraying him in the past. That's right, yeah. Which is our future.
Whoa.
If indeed this is set on Earth.
Whoa.
Which I'm not convinced it is.
Who cares?
Because they wear skirts with pants all together.
They do that, don't they?
And that is very unusual.
In a lot of ways, they're very progressive.
In other ways, they do Hunger Games.
That's true, yeah.
There's different things happening.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so what is wild to me is that this is 10 minutes longer
than the movie Napoleon, apparently. Okay, right. apparently which presumably and i haven't seen it yet spans
the length of napoleon's life are you sure where this spans maybe a month and a half oh yeah look
at this ugly little baby put a weird hat on him give him a very wide hat he's so skinny and sickly we're going to, mother, put a big white hat on him.
Why?
Look, he's going out to conquer something.
Put a big white hat on him so he can't get through the door.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
It's his look now.
That's right.
It's the thing that gives him power.
Look.
Oh, it's the future now and he's died.
He's conquered everything but he's died.
Now let's symbolically take his hat on so we can fit him in his grave.
So.
Napoleon will return.
In what kind of sequel?
Prequel, I guess.
I mean Napoleon.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Because he was all.
He goes to Egypt.
He goes to Egypt, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dogs here.
Hello, Ollie.
Hello.
Look, I know the last book they split into two,
but this I feel like, look, they shouldn't have split this
into two movies.
Now, this is based on a book as well, eh?
It is, yeah.
It's based on a prequel book.
This is, okay, right.
Suzanne Collins.
Okay, great.
But, like, the idea that this has to be three hours long
is outrageous, quite frankly.
Okay.
This has to stop.
This didn't feel like three hours to me.
Absolutely it did.
It felt like there was a movie and then it stopped
and then there was another movie.
I'm gathering you didn't like this movie.
No, that's the thing.
I liked a lot of it, but it's just like,
it's way too fucking long.
What are we doing this for?
I didn't feel like it was three hours at all.
It's so long, Mason.
I didn't love it.
No.
I'll be clear about that.
I felt like there was a lot of stuff that worked in this.
I agree.
I thought there was a lot of interesting ideas.
Except for the drones.
The drones didn't work.
They literally didn't work.
They literally did not work.
But I feel like maybe the whole thing didn't gel for me.
And I'm wondering if it's because the focus of this movie is about the young Corey Elena Snow.
Yeah.
Who grows up to be the worst person in the Hunger Games universe probably.
Probably. You know? Oriolena Snow, who grows up to be the worst person in the Hunger Games universe probably. Yes, probably.
You know?
And the interesting thing about that is like you do see,
first of all, you find out his sister is the tiger woman
from the other Hunger Games.
Oh, is that what that is?
Tigress, and then she becomes a tiger woman.
But like so they focus a lot on his character and why he's the way he is
and there's a moment where he's like,
I loved killing that guy just then.
And that's a little bit of an insight into the kind of man
that he will turn into.
A lot of poisoning people maybe. That's a little bit of an insight into the kind of man that he will turn into. A lot of poisoning people maybe.
That's a little bit of insight into the man that he wants to be.
I like the sound of the name Katniss.
But then there's Rachel Zegler's character who's from the same district
as Katniss and she's come to do the Hunger Games or whatever.
And at the start it's like, oh, there's some real fight in this
and she's like a really interesting, there's a really crazy kind
of dynamic and is she manipulating the people around her is she really like
manipulating him yeah are they are they truly falling in love or is she trying to trick him
so she can you know and i feel like they don't really do enough with that at all i feel like i
would have liked to know like what is this person actually like yeah and i guess that's to more put
you in his kind of mindset where he's kind of like assuming things and guessing things.
Yeah, because he is the focus.
He is in almost every scene where Zegler disappears for.
She comes and goes.
For hours at a time.
Yeah, that's right.
For days.
Days at a time.
For what it felt like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, no, that's not to say I disliked his like characterisation
because the idea that because of the result of the war,
he's like a very poor person from a previously well-to-do family who's laughing he's like a rich kid and
he has to like yeah you know with the ways you know wear certain clothes and like pretend that
his driver's sick and whatever all these different things to keep up this this pretense um i thought
all of that was kind of really yeah i mean i i i think the the the premise of it is interesting and or like the idea of like
the fall of this man to become like this awful person i like what what you know what what the
circumstances turn him into kind of thing but i don't know it just yeah i don't i don't i don't
know if i got an enough of a an insight into his character as he was to feel like him
transforming into a really bad guy was like a believable arc kind of thing.
Sure, okay.
It just felt like, not a spoiler, but it just felt like, you know,
he had a couple of bad days and he became the Joker.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, he's like, well, I'm just normal and I like, I just,
you know, I just want to survive day to day.
I love roses and I love my family.
Oh, a couple of bad things happened.
Well, now I'm President Snow.
Should I use this bird, which is also a tape recorder?
I don't know.
I'm conflicted about it.
Talk about it in spoilers, Mason.
Yeah, I feel like there was some ambiguity to the characters in this,
which I don't know if too ambiguous is the right word,
but I just would have preferred some more insight,
especially considering that it's a three-hour Hunger Games prequel.
Sure is.
I think there's some room there.
Oh, a bit of room.
But that would have made it even longer.
Yeah, that's true.
Unless they just wore T-shirts that said there.
No, just cut out the Hunger Games stuff because, boy,
do you like a boring Hunger Games in a concrete room?
That's what they're doing this time around.
Yeah, it's – what is interesting, I think, is that, again, because it's early.
At least everybody in the universe agrees it's boring.
Yeah.
It's early days of the Hunger Games.
So it's just they put them in like a small stadium with some weapons
and they just have at it.
Yeah, for like ten minutes.
There's very little room to hide or, you know, there's no.
Yeah, for like ten minutes.
There's very little room to hide or, you know, there's no – they're not, you know, they're not employing guerrilla warfare tactics
in a forest or anything like that.
It's just you get in a room.
So how many of these have ended in ten minutes?
All of them.
Because they've all just hacked at each other with swords
and then they've all died of blood loss.
All of them.
And people aren't watching that apparently.
Yeah.
And it needs – and so Viola Davis' character is the game –
Games master.
She's one of the scientists behind all this who can –
she can create all these genetically engineered creatures
and these special like assassin snakes and all this sort of stuff.
She doesn't have the foresight to be like people –
like she's sort of genuinely stunned.
Yeah.
Because Snow's character is one of these students from an elite school
who were brought in to mentor the –
It's the first year of mentors.
It's the first year of mentoring.
They're going to mentor these tributes.
But also she wants to talk to them.
Viola Davis' character wants to talk to them about what they think
about this whole thing.
And some of them are like, this is bad actually.
But Snow is like, what if people saw what these people were like?
And it's blown her mind.
Brilliant.
This is brilliant action.
How did you do that?
How did you come up with this?
I built this big tank of snakes.
I might be able to actually use that now.
Yeah, I was.
Because they won't all be dead in 10 minutes.
Yeah, I was considering just, it's weird that people didn't want
to watch me just bring in 12 random people into a room
and then drop a bucket of snakes on them.
You know, they, you know.
Because they'd stick around, I guess they'd stick around.
They'd stick around until they were all killed by the snakes
and then they'd switch off.
Absolutely, yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
It's not a sustained business model.
No.
It's ten minutes of people being killed by snakes
and then everybody's like, what else should we do for the day?
And the only reason the arena was like slightly bigger than normal
was because there's an attack on it.
So it's like crumbled and you can kind of get underground and whatever.
So that's the only reason it goes a bit longer like this time around.
But it's just so bizarre and bland and like, again,
it's a concrete room with some tridents in it and whatever.
Sure.
It's a broken bow and arrow which means something probably.
But there is like –
Katniss.
Katniss, that's right.
You can –
This ain't your grandpappy's Hunger Games, except it is.
It absolutely is, yeah.
This is your grandpappy's Hunger Games.
That's right.
Just how he liked it.
So you can also call in, get water and whatever.
So it's the early days of where you can bring in,
if you're thirsty you can get some water and whatever.
But they rocket in at such speed.
Yes, they're barely controlled drones.
Yeah, which you can later be weaponized because it's clearly just not working.
How do you feel about the new host of The Hunger Games?
Sorry, the first host of The Hunger Games.
Oh, Lucky Flickerman.
Yeah.
Loved him.
He has some right little commentaries.
Big year for Jason Schwartzman.
What was the other one he did?
Spider-Verse.
What?
Asteroid City.
Oh, yeah, he's in Spiderverse.
He's the spot, yeah.
Yeah, and another thing I'm pretty sure.
This three-hour Hunger Games prequel.
No, there's four.
He's in four things this year, I'm pretty sure.
Jason Schwartzman.
Jason Schwartzman.
He was in the Darjeeling Limited, Mason.
That was a long time ago.
Are you thinking of that?
No.
Fantastic Mr. Fox.
No.
All right.
Asteroid City Spider vs Quiz Lady.
Hunger Games prequel.
Oh, and he's in
Quiz Lady, but he's also in
bloody Scott Pilgrim.
His voice is, you know, he's back
in, so he's done five things this year.
He's also in Digman. I think you should leave
Tim Robinson. Ten-year-old Tom.
This is an even bigger year for Jason Schwartzman
than I thought it would be. How does he do it? What's his secret?
Some of these are just voice roles.
Yeah, also he's a nepotism baby.
I got him, Mason.
Is he?
Yeah, I think he's related to someone.
Huh.
Is he a cop?
Jason Bateman?
Is he a Francois Coppola's nephew or something?
Oh, he might be, yeah.
He's one of those guys?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, then I take back everything nice I've ever said about him.
Me too.
Yeah.
All right.
But yeah, so I bet you enjoyed him.
Did you enjoy Peter Dinklage?
Yes.
As a very open drug addict.
Sure.
Just quickly drinking drugs in front of everybody before he makes a speech.
I'm just going to quickly.
Drink your drugs before you come out.
I'm just going to quickly drink my obvious vulnerability here.
I'm just going to quickly drink that, and I hope nobody notices that for later.
Puts anything in my little drinks.
He's good, though, isn't he?
Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
Peter Dinklage.
Can you drink morphine?
Yes, you can. This one you can. Wow, nice? Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Can you drink morphine? I guess you can.
This one you can.
Wow, nice.
Yeah, and that's cool.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
I think there is some, like you said, it does happen quick,
but there is some interesting ideas about like him,
this guy being heartbroken and turning the way he does.
I think it's not all as.
Well, I would say get over it.
Yeah, it's not as heavy handed as.
Plenty of other chicks in the sea, am I right?
Yeah, because you know like. Also, it is a profoundly heavy-handed as – Plenty of other chicks in the sea, am I right? Yeah, because, you know, like –
Also, it is a profoundly bad idea to let these guys who are, like, the enemy,
just let them go to the districts and hang out.
Get some shore leave and just go to the districts and drink in the bars
and, you know, become friends with the rabble and fall in love
and all that sort of stuff.
That's going to end in tears for everybody.
Absolutely.
Ridiculous as a premise.
Those people don't know.
So it starts with like you get selected for the Hunger Games
and then the middle hour is the Hunger Games
and then the third hour is it moves out towards the district.
So that's the kind of the narrative flow of it and whatever.
That's where all the love takes place over all of the different hours
of this movie.
And there's a bird that's a tape recorder.
And it can remember what you said.
Or maybe that comes
up multiple times. Yeah, that's right. A real
Ricardo Montalban situation.
Very good.
I thought we were in love, but you Ricardo
Montalban'd me.
Should we do some spoilers? Hang on, let me think.
You know what? I thought Rachel Zegel was really good.
I think she's great, yeah.
I like there's a lot of music in this.
You know what I liked?
Production-wise, everything seems to be real.
Looking good, looking good.
A lot of the sets are real, all the major sets, like all the –
Yeah, because, again, it's like a stone room that they're in.
Yeah, yeah.
But, like, you know, a lot of the district sets are real.
A lot of the grey fatigues are real.
Yeah, they're very real.
Very real.
Very real.
Real singularity.
Yeah, I think Rachel Zegler's really good and, like,
I liked all her singing.
I liked all the songs.
I thought that was a nice touch because, you know,
in the original ones Katniss is a hunter and that's her skill set,
whereas this is –
Rachel Zegler is a dodger.
Lucy Grey is a character.
She's always dodging stuff.
She's an artful dodger.
They're always trying to hit her with an axe and she's dodging.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought those songs were good.
Maybe I'll check out the soundtrack.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think –
Apparently she did all her singing on set.
Did you say that?
Yeah, I did say that.
No, I didn't say that, but I saw that.
Oh, okay.
Now I'm saying that.
No, I said it first.
Okay, fine.
Yeah.
I'll say it later better.
Okay.
I also thought Young Snow was good.
Tom Blythe. I thought he was. Okay, fine. Yeah. I'll say it later better. Okay. I also thought Young Snow was good. Tom Blythe.
I thought he was really good as well.
What I was going to say is, though,
I wonder if they felt like they had to give both of those main characters
more equal screen time, whereas maybe it would have made sense
if Zegler's character was, like, more off in the distance.
Okay, sure, yeah.
And we all, as an audience member, we always wondered what her agenda was. Okay, sure, yeah. And we all, as an audience member, we always wondered
what her agenda was.
Right, okay, yeah.
Because we see her in, we see her so much in the movie,
it does kind of feel like all her cards are on the table really.
Like I never really thought of her like, oh, she's,
maybe she's manipulating him, maybe she's not genuine,
that sort of thing.
I always felt like I knew what her emotional state was,
her mental state was.
And she's like she's initially not trusting of this guy
and then she realises she's got to work together
and then she has feelings for the guy and all that sort of stuff.
But I think because this is a hunger games movie they wanted
to have a female protagonist yeah a katniss-esque a katniss-esque kind of character whereas i think
if you just kept the point of view to this snow that would be more compelling if you if you always
wondered if he was in control or if she was yeah manipulating him from the back.
From The Hunger Games.
From The Hunger Games, exactly.
From The Hunger Games prequel three hours.
That's right.
It's also not quite three hours.
I just want to point that out.
It's like two hours 47 including credits.
Yeah.
I'm going to say best movie ever.
I don't think it really gelled for me.
I didn't feel like it was that long.
Even though it was really long.
Yeah.
It was nine minutes longer than Napoleon movie.
Yeah, I feel like you could have, yeah, you definitely could have trimmed it.
I don't, what do you feel?
Maybe this would have been better as a series.
Yeah.
Six episodes.
Yeah, whoever owns it put it on their streaming service.
Yeah.
What third do you think was the strongest third?
Probably the first and the very back end.
I think the very, for me, I think maybe the final third.
And maybe that sinks my argument that I shouldn't know
what her mental state was.
Yeah, yeah.
But I don't know.
I also feel like if he spent the entire movie going, oh, I've got to,
you know, I've got to find a way to be away with this woman.
Yeah.
You know, we're going to escape and we're going to make our way
to the districts and we'll be away from all of this,
not knowing anything about her.
And then when he went out to the district with her, she was like,
hey, let's take a trip to the lake.
Let's, you know, tie this big weight around your neck
and then I'll – that's what we do in the district.
And we'll be in love.
We do it in the district.
And it's in love. To show our love, we put a big weight around our neck and then I'll – that's what we do in the district. And we'll be in love. We do it in the district. And it's in love.
To show our love, we put a big weight around our neck, you know?
That's what we do in the three-hour Hunger Games.
That's exactly right, yeah.
But I'm going to say generally best.
Yeah, sure.
Why not?
Spoilers.
Yes.
So there's a tape recorder bit where there's a friend he goes out
to the district with and he records him maybe doing a mini uprising
using a tape recorder bird and then he sends it into the city where Viola Davis earlier was like,
I check all the tape recorder birds.
That's right.
And then he's like, but I didn't do that on purpose.
But like.
You did.
Does he think, what does he think?
What's that?
That's great.
Is he kidding himself or others?
Also, doesn't that tape also implicate him?
Yeah, he's in it.
He's in the tape but yeah
it was like i don't know but i guess viola davis is like well i like this kid yeah but i don't like
the other kid and i like this bird oh so anyway so the so the the the the the plot how the plot
goes yeah is that uh he's asked to mentor uh lucy gray yep and then uh he helps her out in the hunger
games he cheats he gives her a little container container of rat poison so she can do a big poisoning
on people.
And then Viola Davis is going to dump a bunch of snakes.
Yes.
She's going to dump a big bucket of snakes on the surviving tributes
to end the Hunger Games as quickly as possible because, again,
she doesn't know how to build tension.
It's crazy how those snakes are even alive in there,
just slithering all over each other.
Just slithering around.
But luckily this is a movie, so Snow has learned earlier,
that the snakes won't kill anybody if they're familiar with their scent.
Yes.
And he has a handkerchief that has Lucy Gray's sweat or scent
or something on it or boogers and so forth.
And so he puts it in the container of snakes before it's shipped off
to be dumped on all the tributes and then they get her sent and so they kill everybody
but her and so she is declared the winner of the Hunger Games.
But?
But?
But the bad guys recover the rat poison and the handkerchief
and they're like, you did a big cheating so we're going to.
Peter Dinklage does not like it.
That's right.
We're going to bust you down to being a grunt.
We're going to send you out into the district.
And he's like, can I be sent to district two where the girl I love is?
And the person sorting out is like, sure, I guess.
Yeah, whatever.
I don't know.
Do you have $50?
There should be a big note on your form that says absolutely never do that.
Yeah.
If he asks, kick him.
Yeah.
He can go anywhere except district 12. Yeah. If he asks, kick him. Yeah. He can go anywhere except District 12.
Yeah.
But District 12, sure, absolutely.
And then he goes and he finds her again and she's like, ooh.
We love.
That's right.
We love, she says.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But.
Yes.
Then he gets, because his mate went with him,
there's a little uprising happens and he ends up betraying his mate and they shoot some people or whatever and then they have to get rid of the guns.
Yeah.
And then the gun, but then his mate goes to jail and by that I mean
they hang him because of the tape recorder bird.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Because it's so good.
Recorder muscle bird.
Yes, that's right.
And then he goes to him and Lucy are like, let's run away together.
We love.
We love.
And so they go to the cabin.
As we say in District 12, we love.
Yeah.
He goes to the cabin but it turns out that under the floorboards are the guns.
Oh. And she's like, wow, somebody must have put them there, whatever his name is, the other guy. Yeah. He goes to the cabin, but it turns out that under the floorboards are the guns. Oh.
And she's like, wow, somebody must have put them there.
Whatever his name is, the other guy.
Yeah, the other guy.
But was that the implication that she did that and she's one of these resistance fighters?
Maybe.
I guess we'll know in the sequel, six-hour Hunger Games prequel.
I just feel like I would have loved some more like, because then she leaves and that's the last that they.
Yeah.
She kind of loses trust in him because she realizes that he betrayed a friend.
But again, is that enough for you to become the worst guy in the world?
That's what I'm, yeah, yeah.
It's all kind of like, again, it's kind of ambiguous in a way that I didn't feel.
Like, is he going to meet another Rachel Zegler later?
Well, he does have family, so.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Maybe.
And then that Rachel Zegler betrays him.
But she could definitely
like if they were to do a sequel for this and i don't think they will she could she's alive
obviously for sure yeah you know like he thought he'd shoot her at some point but uh i thought we
love and then i thought we shoot yeah but who knows no sad day for snow i just kind of walked
away from this going like i just wish i knew more about what her character was about.
Well, if there was more run time.
If only it was longer.
If only it was longer, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I did like that there was a tape recorder bird.
That was pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How's it work?
We don't know.
You turn the switch.
Yeah, I guess.
What's the range on that?
That's a great question.
Yeah.
How's it connected?
To the bird?
Yeah.
It's a wire. Oh. It's directly connected. Like the movie Bird on a a great question. Yeah. How's it connected? To the bird. Yeah. It's a wire.
Oh.
It's directly connected.
Like the movie Bird on a Wire.
Exactly.
Wow.
I don't know,
anything else you want to say?
No,
that's about it,
I reckon.
Got this from Vinton
who says,
hashtag weekly planet pod.
I appreciate they didn't
separate The Hunger Games,
I'm presuming here,
Vinton means
The Hunger Games
three hour prequel
into two to three movies
because it certainly felt
like it was two movies
but they gave Snow's full story and I I think that's a pretty compelling best movie
ever.
There you go.
Anything else to say?
It's too long, obviously.
It's pretty long.
Oh, yeah.
Very long.
All right, guys.
Next segment.
Next segment is the joke.
What is it?
It's what we're reading.
Yep.
What we're going to read.
Yeah.
I've got to think of something.
Think of it quick.
All right.
Think of it during the theme song.
I'm doing the theme.
I'm doing the theme.
Think of it during the theme song.
I'm doing the theme.
What are we reading today?
All right, I've just started.
I just started.
Just before you got here because I've been away for the weekend.
Boys trip, not a big deal.
Just backing it up, mate, week to week.
What's that mean?
Just drinking as much as I can.
Oh, I see.
Sure, sure, sure.
I'm in quite a lot of peril.
You think so? Yeah, yeah. Because I have to do it again next week. You think this might be the last days of Mr. Sunday Movies? It's, sure, sure. I'm in quite a lot of peril. You think so?
Yeah, yeah. Because I have to do it again next week.
You think this might be the last days of Mr. Sunday movies?
It's very possible, most likely.
Wow, okay.
Is this like when a superstar football player gets three concussions in a row?
It's exactly what it's like.
You think if you get three hangovers in a year.
If you do this again next week, you will definitely die.
And I have to do it next week.
I've got a friend flying in from the UK.
Oh, I know.
You know what he's like.
I know what he's like. That's right. He's got a friend flying in from the UK. Oh, I know. You know what he's like. I know what he's like.
That's right.
That's exactly right. Well, good luck to you.
Thank you.
We might try to record a little bit earlier next week.
We might have to reshuffle the podcast.
We know what he's like. We're going to have to reshuffle the podcast
to factor in one of your high school
friends drinking
problems.
I think that's cool. That is cool. I think that's cool.
That is cool, yeah. I think that's cool.
That's legendary, guys.
But I'm taking Hydrolyte out with me now, you know?
Okay, sure.
Keeping hydrated on the go.
Anyways, what are you reading?
I initially thought, I'm like, what happened to my weekend?
What was I doing all weekend?
I was watching Bob Ross.
Oh, on YouTube?
Yeah.
What's he up to?
Well, he's dead.
Yeah.
But over the weekends, I've discovered the official Bob Ross.
Because other people were uploading his stuff for a while.
Yeah.
And getting like millions of views.
Yeah, but the official Bob Ross YouTube channel has like weekend marathons.
So it's always just running live episodes, like 24.
They call him the grandfather of ASMR.
Though he was well before.
Perverts.
All the perverts. All the perverts.
All the perverts, yeah.
For people who don't know, Bob Ross, famously Afroed painter.
Used to be in the Army, I think.
He was, yeah.
I think it's a perm also.
It is a perm, yeah.
Yeah.
And he just does some real.
Just does a nice little painting show.
Just does a nice painting painting show very calm and cool
yeah and uh it does beautiful landscapes but you know what intimately stressful and i'll tell you
why and i think other people have this experience as well he'll do a beautiful landscape and he'll
be like i'll just add something here and i'm like bob you're gonna ruin this bob you're ruining this
it was a perfect landscape and you you're putting in the tree and you've run oh no that's perfect
actually it's actually perfect don't forget I said anything, Bob.
Don't even worry about it.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
So you just have it on your TV?
Just have it on my TV.
Is it something you would want to attempt?
No, but I like that other people are doing it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because there was that old Wilson movie where he played a variation on Bob Ross.
Oh, that's right, yeah.
Like there was a – the last Deadpool movie he did a Bob Ross in the trailer.
I remember that, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Good stuff. Well, I just started. I remember that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good stuff.
Well, I just started because just before you got here,
I watched the first ten minutes of Monarch.
Okay, great.
Of course, we're making our way through the four new Monsterverse movies
and they all lead into Monarch.
And this is a prequel sequel.
Yeah, it's set after Godzilla 2014 but before King of Monsters, I think.
Interesting.
Specifically, yeah.
Okay.
So that's fun. So no spoilers. There, yeah. Okay. So that's fun.
So no, so spoilers, there'll be no King Ghidorah.
I presume not.
No King Kong, probably.
No, but they've got some people who pop up who you might not expect,
I think, and big crabs and stuff.
Okay, sure, sure, sure.
Do you like big crabs?
Maybe.
Yeah, delicious.
I like seafood.
Yeah, there you go.
And the seafood diet? Go on. The seafood diet, Mason? I'm not on any Yeah, there you go. On the seafood diet?
Go on.
On the seafood diet, Mason?
I'm not on any kind of diet.
Are you on the seafood diet?
Can you play the lettuce theme song?
Yes.
Okay, let's do it.
That was a short what we were eating, don't you think?
Oh, God, your loud phone is back.
We love you.
Some letters, they're only a takeaway.
We're going to hear right now.
We're going to do that as...
Ah!
Your previous phone had to put the volume all the way up.
Now?
Now it's...
Was that as loud as it goes?
That's as loud as it goes.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
You should throw that away.
I'm not going to.
It's a nice phone.
Mason, if you do want to reach the show,
all you have to do is hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter.
So true.
Or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com.
Or if you're me or Mason, we can just talk to each other
and then we will reach the show.
Oh, that's very true, isn't it?
What do you have this week in terms of letters?
And if you do not have one in front of you right now,
I will do one.
This is from Jack.
It just says, sick on a plane.
Dear James and Maceo, I got sick on a plane
going to Florida from Washington.
It hurts to swallow and I get headaches.
Can I be the official sick kid on planes at the podcast?
Yes.
That's right.
We're sorry you got sick on a plane.
Yeah.
That's not a good place to be sick.
Do you think it was related?
Do you think it was air sickness or do you think it was?
It's all throat.
I don't think that's an air sickness.
Maybe that's an altitude thing.
I don't think so, man.
Okay.
It'd be more ears than throat.
I think they have gastro.
Maybe they have.
That's not throat either.
What's happening?
What are you talking about?
I don't know, man.
It'd be like a COVID or like a –
I don't know.
Like a – what is it called?
A tonsillitis potentially.
It might be tonsillitis, yeah.
Anyway, this one's from Metal Eugenio, hashtag weekly planet pod.
If you can eliminate one genre between prequels or spin-offs,
which would you pick?
Prequels.
Really?
It's rarely a good prequel, right?
I mean we just did three Our Hunger Games prequels.
That's true.
And you didn't love it.
That one's fine.
But what about spininoffs?
What spinoffs are you loving?
Well, Monarch Legacy of Monsters, obviously.
You haven't watched it yet.
No, I haven't watched it yet.
That's true.
I'm going to write best spinoff movies
and I'm going to do best prequel movies.
Okay.
So we've got-
You never loved prequels.
No, I know, but I think there are some won.
Indiana Jones?
I don't think that counts.
Why not?
Because it's not.
Yes, it is.
It's not.
They're not like, oh, this is actually, this is the prequel.
This is the origin of how we got all the stuff.
X-Men First Class.
Pretty good.
Bumblebee, maybe.
Yeah.
Prey.
Not a prequel.
Scorpion King.
Doesn't count as a prequel.
No?
Prey doesn't count as a prequel because it's just an event that happened prior to the original Predator.
The King's Man.
because it's just an event that happened prior to the original Predator.
The King's Man.
The Fast and Furious movies that are set before Tokyo Drift.
Great point.
Well, that's torpedoed my entire argument. Some of the Planet of the Apes.
And in terms of spin-offs, well, Rogue One,
this is also a prequel, Deadpool, Creed, US Marshals, Mason,
there's some good ones here, Minions, Fantastic Beasts.
Did you say Creed? Yeah
It's not a prequel? No, it's a
spin-off
This is 40, that's a great spin-off actually
Yeah, alright, they're prequels
Fine, fine
I'm not saying there aren't good prequels
I'm saying that I think as a
I think you've got more
options with spin-offs as well, because prequels are like
well, he better get the thing that he has.
Exactly.
And with spinoffs you can be like, who cares?
Yeah.
Whatever.
Who cares?
It is 40.
That's right.
What else have you got, Mason?
I'm going to find something.
Don't even worry about it.
Why are you doing that?
Okay.
This is from RedLionFlames who says,
hashtag weeklyplanetpod,
I'm trying to find a funny voicemail message.
Then I thought, why not ask the weekly planet to make one for me?
No swearing, please.
Hashtag Weekly Planet pod.
Just wing it.
Grabbed that spaghetti covered gem.
Okay, this is from Red Lion Flame, so we don't know.
Don't know their names?
Okay, so whoever calls them, we're going to reveal their internet handle.
Do we want to do that?
Yeah.
Okay, let's go.
Hey, dudes.
Hey.
Hey, everybody.
There's two of us here.
Yeah, that's right. If you were looking for Red Lion Flames, they're not here. Hey. Hey, everybody. There's two of us here. Yeah, that's right.
If you were looking for red line flames, they're not here.
No.
They're off gallivanting probably.
Yeah, and that might be your fault.
That's right.
If you'd like to leave a message, that is an option or you can hang up right now.
Yeah, I mean most people hang up.
Also, we're from the Weekly Planet Podcast.
That's right.
Get a plug in there.
Get a plug in there.
That's great.
Yeah.
Do you think that'll work?
I think so.
Okay.
Beep.
You don't have to add the beep. No? No. Is this all in it? I think this is plug in there. That's great. Do you think that'll work? I think so. Okay. Beep. You don't have to add the beep.
No?
No.
Is this all in it?
I think this is all in.
Okay, great.
Okay, great.
Beep.
If you've gotten all the way to the end,
Redline Flames will give you a cash prize
if you've made it all the way to the end of this voicemail.
Thank you.
Beep.
That was the final beep.
It was perfect.
Thank you.
All right.
What do you got in terms of letters?
I'm going to find one.
Wow.
And this is an email from Tim.
Tim.
Who says, my dogs love the podcast.
Wow.
Tim says, I've thought about sending this email for years,
but since I'm from Albuquerque, New Mexico,
episode 505 seemed like the perfect episode to try to get a letter read.
Is this episode 505?
Yes.
Nice.
Yes.
Well, then you're in luck, Tim T.
Albuquerque's area code is 505, a thing we're very proud of.
Can that be true?
They're proud of it?
Yep.
Doesn't seem true.
No, that seems like a lie.
Seems a ridiculous thing to be proud of.
Seems ridiculous.
Be more proud of being a reference that Bugs Bunny always makes.
Yeah, Albuquerque.
Albuquerque.
Yeah.
Every morning I get up to take my dogs on a three-mile walk.
I listen to podcasts while I do and usually start the podcast
before I put my headphones in.
The dogs don't always get up from their resting spots
with as much excitement as they do when they hear James and Maiso,
which leads me to the only logical conclusion.
My dogs love the podcast as much as I do.
That makes a lot of sense.
It's also interesting because three miles is equivalent to 4.8 kilometers.
Did you just do that off the top of your head?
Did I do it off the top of my head just now?
Yeah.
Why were you typing on your
keyboard? Typing? Yep. On this computer?
Correct, yes. Money.
Doing personal
finance. Okay, that makes sense. That's actually
very important. It's what I do. It's great.
It's what I do when you read emails. Oh, that's
great.
Tim says, thank you for all the years of laughs, thoughts, and
quotes that don't make sense out of context or sound
as good without an Australian accent.
All right.
Keep on doing your thing, boys.
That's Tim from Albuquerque, New Mexico.
P.S., you can settle a regional dispute by saying that New Mexico's green chile
is better than Colorado's.
Well, of course it is.
Easy done.
Easy done.
Happy to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody knows that.
Nobody also, like, aside, jokes aside, I've never heard of a Colorado chile.
Yeah, what are we talking about?
Yeah.
Maybe it's chile because it's a bit bloody cold.
More like coldorado.
I had a pen pal in Colorado when I was in primary school.
Stop writing to him.
Don't know what happened to him.
Maybe you should write him now.
Write him right now.
All right.
I don't know his name.
What's his name?
You don't know his name.
No, not his full name or address.
His name was Brandon.
Brandon from Colorado.
Yeah, so if you're Brandon from Colorado and you had a pen pal in 1993,
then don't expect much.
Yeah, sure.
Absolutely.
From me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, should we move it along?
Well, you're Brandon yourself is a real bad friend there.
I don't give a shit.
Wow.
If you told me he was dead, I'd be like, whatever.
Wow.
That ship has sailed.
I'm sure.
Who do you think? Do you think you stopped writing first? Yeah.'d be like, whatever. Wow. That ship has sailed. I'm sure. Who do you think?
Do you think you stopped writing first?
Yeah.
No, it was me.
Wow.
Yeah.
But it's not about that.
What it is about is wrapping up the show as best we can.
That's right.
Yeah.
What have we got?
Folks, thank you very much for listening to the show.
We absolutely appreciate it.
Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast.
I hope he's okay, Brandon, wherever you are.
I hope that also.
Just a close-up.
I hope that also. Despite your close-up. I hope that also.
Despite your cavalier attitude towards Brandon from Colorado,
if you know Brandon from Colorado, what do you email in?
Tell me.
Weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com.
Yeah, that's right.
Thank you also for leaving a five-star review on your podcast,
Catcher of Choice.
You can do it in-app most of the time.
Let me just close all my financing operations,
and I'll do that for you right now, Mason.
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from mass consumption. If you're aware that you might
live out your life with a deficit of, I
reckon, do yourself a huge favor
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by listening to these wonderful guys.
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is good. I've been listening to this podcast since the
beginning. It's a good podcast, maybe even a great one,
but probably just a good one. Five stars. I'll take that. Probably just a good podcast. I'll tell to this podcast since the beginning. It's a good podcast, maybe even a great one, but probably just a good one. Five stars.
I'll take that. Probably just a good podcast.
I'll take that. Any day of the week.
Put that on our coat of arms.
Tombstone. Well, the coat of arms is on the tombstone.
That is true. Our joint tombstone.
Probably they did just a good podcast.
Question mark? Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
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Oh, yeah.
Traditionally, as we talked about this before we did the podcast.
Traditionally, we would do The Hunger Games and Doctor Who
as one episode.
Yep.
Didn't line up this year.
Didn't line up.
And too bad.
Yep.
But, yeah, there's a new season of Doctor Who coming out
or there's a special.
Three specials or something.
40th anniversary special.
I think something like that.
40th.
60th?
Yeah.
100th?
100th.
10 million.
10 million.
Oh, he's a time traveler.
He's very old.
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Goodbye.
Goodbye.
And goodbye from Recordo Montalban.
I went upstairs and I was carrying, I don't know, about eight Oreos in a stack.
I'd hand him his weapon.
I'd say, Peter, safety's off.
And he wouldn't take the pistol.
And he says, Robo wants an Oreo.
And I look at him and go, no, it's just you and I, Peter.
Robo doesn't get an Oreo.
Peter wants an Oreo.
Peter can have an Oreo.
And he clip-clops in the suit over to the edge of the railing,
and Peter starts bellowing, Robo wants an Oreo. And he clip-clops in the suit over to the edge of the railing, and Peter starts bellowing,
Robo, what's an Oreo? And when the steel mill just echoes, Randy has Oreos, and Robo, what's an Oreo?
And Steve Lim over the radio goes, Randy, do you have Oreos? So I stuffed that whole stack in my
mouth, and then crunched them and let them fall down three stories onto everybody below me. And I, not anymore.
And Robo got upset.
I haven't got a damn clue about Randy Moore and his fucking Oreos.
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