The Weekly Planet - 511 The Best & Worst of 2023 (& Aquaman 2 I guess)

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

2023 has come to an end. But it's not going anywhere just yet because we simply insist on going through all the best and worst movies, TV shows, streaming services, comic books and video games in our annual Weekly Planet Awards episode! Also we review Aquaman 2 I guess. Big thanks to Rob Collings for the mountain of work he did putting together the survey and editing the podcast in general, the people who voted and everyone who supported us this past year. See you on the 29th!Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.The Loremen podcast with Nick Mason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0eGh5SupkUPlease be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start05:59 The MCU’s Next Big Villain11:10 Adam Driver Done with Star Wars13:06 Book of Boba Fett Season Two15:16 James Gunn on New Superman Suit18:22 Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom Review (spoiler warning 34:12 to 47:46)47:46 The Best & Worst of 2023 – The Weekly Planet Awards02:15:00 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read02:18:55 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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We're bad at scheduling. That's not our fault. That's the way that the calendar operates, you know? It changes every year. The ancient Aztecs were bad at scheduling. I'm glad they're all dead. Me too. Great.

Finally, we got to say it. New Year, new hatreds. The Aztecs. Or the Mayans. No, the Gregorians, right? Just all of them. Anybody who's made a calendar. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. Yuck. Yuck. Anyways, here we talk. Sort it out. They should all have 20. Every month should have 29 days or something. Whatever it is.

Figure it out. Sort it out. Odd number of days have to do that stupid rhyming thing. Oh, 30 days have September, April, June, and November. Disgusting. And then it gets the bit to the end because it goes. Well, all the best of something and whatever. Yeah, 30 days have September, April, June, and November. All the rest have 31, excepting February alone.

Shut up. Just 28 days clear of 29 initially be a garbage. I guess if you did that on the fly, like if you thought of it on the fly, that would be. Yeah, sure. As a first pass. Yeah, yeah. Like if you just came up with that on the spot.

Yeah. Incredible. Like you were facing death because the royal family were going to kill you for your bad calendar. And you're like, well, it's all according to the Bible. And they're like, all right, you got us. Anyway, this is what we normally talk about. Not usually.

It's a new year. It is. We talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. Hello. This is our big show. Happy New Year.

Happy holidays to people. My mum's just calling. Oh, for God's sake. This is a disaster. This 2024 has been a disaster so far. If she calls again, I'll answer because somebody could be dead. No, that's true actually. Yeah.

You're right. But yeah, so this is our big wrap-up episode. That's right for 2023. Yeah. And then shortly thereafter, in a few weeks, we're going to take a little break and then. That's right. We're going to take a little break now.

Yeah. And then in a few weeks, we're going to be back. Yeah. And then we're going to be talking about the. All the new stuff. All the new stuff. Exactly. Forget this new stuff. Exactly. Forget this old stuff.

But not yet because we have to talk about it. That's exactly right. So just in terms of what's happening, we're taking a break until January 29th. That will be the episode that we are back. But there will be a best of episode, best of, with Robert Collins who does a wonderful job editing this and so many other things you don't even know.

You don't even know, Mason. I don't know. He knows. Other people don't even know. He's putting even know, Mason. I don't know. He knows. Other people don't even know. He's putting together a best of. That's going to go up in a couple of weeks or so, sometime in January. But our private Patreon, which is actually called

BigSandwich.co, which is not Patreon, but you do have a Patreon, but there's more stuff on this. That's going to be running all January where we do video game, Let's Plays, movie commentaries, bonus podcasts. And if you are missing us for some reason, there's an enormous back catalogue that you can go through. Oh, and also, if you are missing us, I was a guest on a podcast quite recently. I've been on there before, but the Lawmen podcast,

so Alistair Beckett King and James Shakespeare, they talk about local legends and curiosities from days of yore. Yep, absolutely. And over the holidays they do Christmas Pig, which is a series of episodes involving local legends and magical historical things that are all about pigs. And so I was in an episode about an Arthurian legend of a pig. Oh, my God.

Is a pig with a sword in it? Yep, yep. That's what it is. But there's a whole bunch with a bunch of guests and it's a lot of fun. It also features a piece of Arthurian lore that has never been – I've never seen it in any movie or read it in any comic book or anything like that. Is it a laser? It's not a laser.

That'd be cool though. Oh, my God, that would be so cool. That would be cool. You can zap through a whole bunch of calendars you don't like. But anyway, people can check that out. Absolutely. Or pay money at BigTandem.go. Or people can check that out. Absolutely. Or pay money. Or do the free thing that I said.

No, no. There's more content here, I'd imagine. That is true, actually. Video games also. Yeah. Or you can listen to all the Lawmen back catalogue. Yeah, but this is free. No.

It is free. God, that's great. It's so much stuff and it's entertaining. I'm not on it, though. They're funny guys and it's free. I'm not on it. That's true. This might be a good thing. Almost certainly. Anyways, not a lot of news much stuff and it's entertaining. I'm not on it though. They're funny guys and it's free. I'm not on it. That's true. Which might be a good thing, almost certainly.

Anyways, not a lot of news this week because it's kind of quiet between Christmas and New Year's, but we do have a little bit of an update about who might be the main villain in the next MCU Avengers movie. We're going to talk about the future of Star Wars in terms of two returning or non-returning characters. James Gunn talks about, what is it? That stupid thing that he's doing? Superman.

What? That's not stupid. I love Superman. I'm very much excited for it. And in terms of things that when we're going to maybe get some updates in terms of the suit. Oh, that's right. And we're going to talk about Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.

That's right. That's happening this episode. That's right. We recorded that a few days ago, so that's coming up. And it's got a couple of things, including the debut of a fun, spooky new character. Is it? Yeah, Ferrari Dracula.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Don't have to remember Ferrari Dracula. I do now that you've said it. And then after that, we're going to do our best and worst of the year, which is just a whole list of things where we've had 4,000 votes of people. Colleen's put together this huge and beautiful document that you can vote on. Overwhelming.

On all the different things that you liked and maybe didn't of the year. I'm going to go, we're going to go through all of it. That's right. People, the results that people had and our results, which I think are more interesting. Oh, you think so? Well, just, you know, as an individual, having an opinion is better than like a mass of people shouting,

is my opinion. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Well, I'm actually on the side of the people, and I think our individual opinions mean nothing. And also you can listen to the Lawmen Back Catalogue for free. Yeah, but it's not free.

It is free. I mean, it costs you battery on your phone. It's true, actually, yeah. I didn't consider battery. Yeah. All right, we'll start with this. This is why my time to shine, hello. Tell you what, plug it in at your work.

Plug your phone in at your work, get free electricity at work. Yeah, but you're still wearing down your phone you know what i mean it's it's taxi on that steal your boss's phone sure that's fine but it's technically free yes yeah also time codes below if you want to jump ahead this is via my time to shine hello who says the beyonder is still the main villain for secret wars and that will be their excuse to recast kang okay and then cryptic hd quality, a different Twitter account, says, yes, and I've heard that they won't explicitly present him as Beyonder Kang until the aftermath of the 616 collapse

when he will go on to establish Battleworld. So the idea seems to be that because of Jonathan Mage's being fired and it's sort of going to be a recast sort of loss and they're going to get this guy to come in and go, I'm the real bad guy and he'll do a big battle. Look, I don't think either of these things are true currently. I think this is made up. But I think we are also in a stage where Marvel are probably scouring

everything they possibly can to find anything that will get them out of this particular multiversal pickle they are in. Yes. And so it wouldn't shock me if they went, Kang becomes the Beyonder? Okay, great, that actually works for me. Or always was. This could be proven right simply by the fact that they are flailing

and spiralling. Somebody there heard this from somebody. Or more likely saw these tweets. And we mentioned a few weeks ago somebody emailed in to suggest, and again we don't know if this is confirmed or not, that perhaps Jonathan may just sign a contract to suggest that he could be the only person cast as Kang. Yeah.

Given that it's a character. There would be a clause. Yeah, given that it's a character who has numerous different looks and et cetera, I think if you were potentially being cast as this character, your, you know, somebody in your, in your camp might go,

well, we don't want you to be immediately recast. If they don't like you, what have you, you might want to put a clause in there. That seems, that logic seems sound. Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. You might be like, well, he can be the only guy. Yeah. So, but I think also there would definitely be a clause that was like,

if anything happens, like that, we don't consider in line with our brand. Disparagement, yes. Yeah, exactly. Then you are out on your ass, mate. But this could work if you were like, well, technically, we've talked in the past about how if an entertainment company

or a comic book company is in some sort of legal pickle, well, I mean, just any company, I guess, they're just going to find a way to skirt around this. And if the thing we said was true, then they could be like well beyond a kang that's a different guy here's a question for you go on which one's that beyond i get confused between that one and eternity and whatever beyond i think he's the if you you'll know him you'll know him from his like his 80s look which is like a big disco collar yeah he's like i think was he born of a cosmic cube or something perhaps i think he was maybe like how monkey magic was like shot out of i think so yeah i think he's born of some primordial thing and he wants to

understand humanity and so he's he's he's like well i'll get them to fight oh okay that's how that we just happened a couple of times yeah and then I think in a later Secret Wars, he became fully human and then he walked among the people and he's like, oh, I get it now. Hot dogs. An authentic New York hot dog, you know? Wow. A burger. I'll put a bug in it. Do you want me to simply read

from the Wikipedia page all dry and logical life? Do I simply want that? Do you want that? Yeah, okay, sure. Okay, cool. Let's do that. This is content, isn't it? Here we go. Here we go. Oh, look at these.

I know. He looks great, doesn't he? Great stuff. Cosmic Entity. Sure, we know that. Created by Jim Shooter and Mike Zek. Yep. First appeared in Secret Wars, the toy advertisement.

Love it. First appeared as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the hero. Blah, blah, blah. Have them do battle on Battleworld. Jeez, get on with it. Oh appeared as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the hero. Blah, blah, blah. Have them do battle on Battleworld. Jeez, get on with it. Oh, my God. His secret was to he takes human form to learn about desire

but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. Why? He doesn't get to kiss a girl. Yeah, I hear you, man. He's a manifestation of the Beyond Realm, which exists separately from the multiverse, accidentally accessed by lab technician Owen Reese. That's Molecule Man.

Yep. Energy escapes and views Reese with his powers. Okay, blah, blah, blah. Mason. He's just a guy from another universe. Just say nonsense. Just say it's nonsense. He's from a nonsense thing.

It is nonsense thing and they try their best to make it palatable to people who are already sick of things from outside the multiverse or whatever. Oh, my God. Outside of a multiverse? Is that even possible? Actually, maybe that's a loophole. Maybe people will be like, we're sick of this from outside the multiverse or whatever oh my god outside of a multiverse is that even possible actually that maybe that's a loophole maybe people will be like we hate we're sick of this multiverse stuff oh outside the multiverse what's out there i don't know it's

mostly the same there's a guy shot out of a rock or whatever that's right oh like monkey magic yes like monkey magic if that'll get you to buy tickets yes like monkey magic like goku also yeah there we go you guys like you guys like Dragon Ball Z? Oh, yeah, sure. You watch that movie? People love it, probably. Yeah. Mason.

Probably, undeniably. Yeah, maybe they're going off the boil a bit, you know, because they keep doing it. They keep being like, and he's back and he's got blue hair. Maybe people are like, I'm sick of this. Does he? Goku's got blue hair. He's got blue hair now.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. Is that exciting to you? His blue hair shot out of a rock landed right in his head. So it's a wig. I don't know. Right.

It wouldn't be very cool if it was a wig. It would be cool if it was authentic. I mean, it's sort of a testament to how easily tricked I am. Like, you know how Godzilla's pink now? Yeah. I'm like, yes, great. Yes. Does it impact anything?

No, but look at the contrast between him and the water. Wow. It's different, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Adam between him and the water. Wow. It's different, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Adam Driver went on the Smartless podcast and he was asked about Kylo Ren's return. Spoiler alert for The Rise of Skywalker. He died.

He had a big kiss and then he died. But I just want to talk about Ferrari. Yeah. I want to make the best car. Okay, all right, all right. You know what he's like? Yes, I know what he's like. That's just the vibe I get.

I haven't seen the movie yet. Yeah, he's just loving that i build the car to honor my son he died uh uh blair oh he's not laughing no why would he laugh about that i don't know he's a dracula who knows he's probably got a lot of sons whatever that's true yeah yeah alucard exactly yeah um so yeah if you remember he uh had a big kiss and then he disappeared i do remember that which also i think if they wanted to bring him back there's ghost and there's also you could be like he teleported it's a force power and he teleported away you know or he teleported into a clone vat or whatever it's a clone of him now he went in that time travel tree yeah time travel tree you could go oh the the emperor he knew that he knew that they'd fight him and so and he they

die so he might he cloned, so he cloned them. Yeah. He cloned them there and now he's back. Yeah, and he's conflicted. Yeah, yeah, because his dad or whatever cloned him, his granddad. Yeah. Whatever. You know.

Yeah. His granddad was actually whoever Han Solo's dad is, Mason. Oh. I think you'll find. Okay. And Darth Vader. Nice. I think you'll find.

Oh. Anyway, he was asked about it and he said, they're doing stuff but not with me. I'm not doing any more. Great. And that's my final word on it until the next interview when somebody's going to ask me again. But I just want to talk about Ferrari, he said.

He slipped into the character. He's loving that Italian accent he used in the previous movie where he was Italian. House of Gucci, yeah, absolutely, yeah. Goddamn. I want to make Fashion House big and successful. My son died. Oh, yeah. Goddamn. I want to make Fashion House big and successful. My son died. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Blair.

Mason? Yes. Oh, did his son die in House of Gucci as well? I don't know. I can't remember. Doesn't matter. It was okay. I wanted it to be really good.

It was okay. But Jared Leto was really good at it. And by that I mean absolutely fucking atrocious. Mason? Yes? News Hub also spoke to Temuera Morrison, who of course plays Jango Fett, Boba Fett, all of the clones. Aquaman's dad.

Aquaman's dad. Exactly. Aqua dad. He's also in the movie Six Days, Seven Nights. Damp dad. Damp dad. Oh, my God. The wettest, dampest dad.

He's in Six Days, Seven Nights. The Harrison Ford and Hayes movie. Yes, Mason. Boba Fett and Han Solo in the same movie. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. You want to watch it now, huh?

Yeah. I've seen it. Oh, no, I don't want to watch it. No? No. You want it to be just for you? I don't know what your taste is like. I didn't say anything about it.

Wow. It's not great. It's fine. He was asked about returning as Boba Fett in season two of Boba Fett. Okay. He said, no, the show will go on without me. Boba Fett's dead in this universe. I don't know what's going on there.

We're coming out of this downtime period, so I think everyone is just settling back in, and it all goes back to budgets and what they want to do and how much the thing costs. I don't really know. Judging by the fans I've met, they all want a season two, but I don't know what's going to happen. People don't like that season.

And that's my final word on that until the next time I'm interviewed for something else when they're going to ask me about it. Exactly, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I think we'll see him again. I want to be big crime boss. He's not a Dracula, Mason. No, he's not. He's absolutely not a Dracula.

I tried to sneak that one past you. He was ready for it. He was having dreams in a space bath. That's true, yeah. In order of when they happened to him. Really good stuff. That's right. Oh, when did I leave off last time I was in the Bacta tank? Here we go.

Previously on Bacta Tank Dreams. He probably marks it on the inside with like a waterproof marker. No doubt he does. So yeah, look, I think he'll turn up for Mandalorian season three, Thrawn movie and whatever. But yeah, I'm not sure season two of that show is going to be likely. Give him a little fun spinoff where he kills a bunch of people.

Give him a fun scene. Like a 30 minute thing. Like in his early, you know, his first appearance in Mandalorian where he kills all those guys. Yeah, exactly. Kills them with these knee rockets. And remember that episode of Boba Fett where it was just the Mandalorian? Yeah.

But they just did an episode of Mandalorian in the middle of it. That's cinema. Isn't it just? No, that's streaming. Oh, y episode of The Mandalorian in the middle of it. That's cinema. Isn't it just? No, that's streaming. Oh, yuck. Which some people would think is akin to cinema. It's true. Disney sure like it to me.

All right. So James Gunn was asked by Dweeb Really on whatever social media platform he's on. Threads? Yeah, he would be on Threads. Yeah. He says, this is the last bit of news. Oh. Sorry, everybody.

What's the likelihood of seeing what the suit looks like before filming in March, as in the Superman suit? Sure. And James Gunn said 0.0. Good. You don't want to know? No. Now, he's hinted towards like a number of things, or he posts comics, and he's like,

these don't mean anything, but there seems to be an indication he's going to be doing the red and black. I don't like that. I don't like the red and black. I don't mind it. Let me show you some concepts, Mason. Okay, all right. And then you come and tell them,

oh, I wasn't even ready for the, God damn it, Mason, now you're annoying me. Because this is more the golden age, like the Fleischer Superman, which is the red S with the black, but I don't like it. I like the red and gold. Here we go.

All right, you're going to be eating your words and you're going to give me $100. Oh. Yeah. I'm ready. Open your wallet. Rip. Velcro wallet, Mason. That's right. Nothing wrong with that, by the way. Oh. Yeah. I'm ready. Open your wallet. Rip. Velcro wallet, Mason.

That's right. Nothing wrong with that, by the way. Was that your stance in 2024? Get yourself a Velcro wallet. Yeah, that's right. I don't have one. Yeah. But get yourself one.

Okay, here's some concepts I put up. I saw on Yolio Comics DC and Games put this up. Okay. So these are some different, this is great for the visual medium that is podcasting. You can imagine it. So if you look at the black suit, the one with the black and the up. Okay. So these are some different, this is great for the visual medium that is podcasting. You can imagine it. So if you look at the black suit, the one with the black and the whatever, it looks pretty good. Oh, it's got a gold frame to it.

Okay. I don't hate it. Yeah. And it's, okay. So it's got a gold frame to it and it's got, it's got the black in the S and it's got a black on the belt. Yeah. Okay.

I can see that working. What do you think about without the jocks though? Don't like it. I don't hate it. I like it with the jocks. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's going to go for the black one but uh yeah okay right we'll see i mean recently we've

said the only time we've seen it recently is at the start of well i we probably saw it in that horrible flash montage yeah but we also saw it in the first i saw a lot of things yeah yeah we we see it in flashbacks in the superman and lois series yeah he's got the fly shisuda which is cool really good yeah i like that show i should return to it as soon as they're cancelling at the moment or something aren't they yeah they fired half the people in it and whatever yeah sure like yeah now's the time yeah perfect actually now's the time watch it and and sign some petitions yeah bring it back exactly anyways that's the end of the news unfortunately oh also what i was gonna say uh yeah bring back we don't see much until the movie

comes out yeah i i like it wouldn't shock me if part of the reason i mean one of the reasons that box office is declining for this sort of stuff is the movie's bad but also but it feels another reason yeah but if there was another reason what like maybe a small part of that is because we see the entire movie before it comes out i know exactly what's gonna happen yeah and i'm like oh it's just there's a world conqueror and he's going to come down and the team, they don't get along, but they're going to have to learn to work together. They're going to have to. The Marvels.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so when we come back in later January, hopefully there'll be big news we'll be talking about all the time. Big news. Nearly a month's worth, Mason. Not quite, but nearly a month's worth, but not quite. What happened last year where we were like, oh, there won't be any news, and then just.

Something, a bunch of stuff happened. Did Warner Brothers acquire Discovery? Did Discovery acquire Warner Brothers? I can't remember. I don't know, something. Bunch of dumb stuff. I can look it up. Nah, don't worry about it.

Nah, don't worry. Cool. All right, should we move it along? Yeah, let's do it. Whoa. Aquaman, two wet brothers. Oh, yes. Finally in cinemas in Australia, Mason.

That bloody took long enough. Didn't it, though? Yeah. We've been waiting with bated breath. Bated, James bloody took long enough. Didn't it, though? Yeah. Waiting with baited breath. Baited, James. Oh, yes. Like a baiter hook. It's true.

You could bait a hook, potentially. You could use a lure. But you wouldn't say you'd be waiting with lured breath. It's true. A rubbery, lured breath. Yeah. I've been waiting with fishy breath. Okay, sure, yeah.

But that's your general breath. Yeah. On a budget of around $205 million-ish. $205, very specific. And a marketing budget of whatever they saved on not rolling out a blue carpet for the premiere they didn't have. That's right. For the two bus ads in Melbourne, that's what they spent it on.

It had a $40 million US opening weekend, which is less than the $47 million that the Marvels made. Oh, no. It's stronger than some of the DC entries, including Blue Beetle. But if you look at the year for DC, and I guess comic book movies in general, with the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Spider-Man, we're in the Spider-Verse. Dire.

The Flash, the Xan 2, Blue Beetle, this. We're staying positive, James. We're staying positive. We're staying positive in 2024. Exactly, when we get there. We don't have to be positive yet. No. this now this could always stay in positive james stay positive stay positive in 2024 exactly when we get there yeah we don't have to be positive yet no we're in the dirt of 2023 the tail end so but i feel like the way that wonka has grown you know and kept in cinemas this could also continue to just kind of because there's no other options except wonka except wonka and ferrari

ferrari probably is out i assume i. I don't know. Probably out January 19th in Australia, because that's how they do things here. I must build really fast car. That's hard, though. Well, I do it. Is he a Dracula? Yeah, he's from Transylvania. And he's the Dracula. Yeah, and he's the Dracula.

Right. Well, this is great. What do you think the story was, and does it involve Ora Kelcom? Ora Kelcom. Yeah, it is great. What do you think the story was and does it involve Ora Kelcum? Yeah, it sure does. Oh, look, I want to do more Transylvanian Ferrari, but I'll save it for later. Sure. Okay, fine.

I'll pepper it in later or earlier because we're recording this segment separate from the rest of the podcast. So maybe earlier in the podcast there'll be some Transylvanian Ferrari and you'll have to – God, I hope so. People will have to understand that. Yeah, yeah. Here's the story.

All right. So, okay. So it's post Aquaman 1 and post Justice League and all that sort of stuff. Which Justice League? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Is it post... Is it the same...

No, it has to be Whedon Justice League. Why? I'll tell you in a minute. Okay. But... Is it post The Flash where The Flash fell into a puddle? It seems like it's post The Flash where he fell into a puddle. But isn't that a different Aquaman because that's the George Clooney universe?

Oh, I don't know, man. It doesn't matter anymore. Maybe this is the George Clooney universe. Could be. Anyway, Aquaman's a big-time hero. He's the king of Atlantis. Yep. And he's got a kid, and it's real tough because he's a single dad.

I mean, he's not a single dad. His wife is still around and alive. But it's he's a single dad. I mean, he's not a single dad. His wife is still around and alive. But it's tough for a single dad. She's not. She's just some. She's got four lines in this movie. Yes. In it way more than I thought.

Yeah. We talk about it. He's a single dad and he's married to his own dad. That's what's happening in this movie. Because he's always hanging out with his own dad. Yeah. He's hanging out with his dad. And he's like, how did you do it?

Dad being a single dad. And he's like, it's hard. Us single dads. Here's to single dads. That's the line in the movie. But guess what? Remember that time that he didn't kill Black Manta from the last movie? Well, Black Manta's

back. From memory, didn't he shatter his face? I mean, he does have the scar. Should I quickly watch that? Yeah, just watch it really quickly. Okay, I'm going to find out what happened. He left Black Manta and his dad, Dad Manta, in that submarine. And he's like, I'm going to rescue you guys because you guys are mean. And I'm also mean and tough.

Yeah. Because I'm one of the tough guys. He is one of the tough guys. But now he's a single dad. He's a single dad. That's hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Black Manta's back.

And he's found a – Black Manta. He's going to find Magical Trident. Yep. And a bunch of other stuff. And then he's going to wage war on Aquaman and all the other guys. But there's only one way to defeat Black Manta, and that's to get Ocean Master out of prison

because he was in prison in the last one. Yeah, he was. And now we've got to get him out of prison. And even though he killed a lot of people probably, I don't really remember. I don't remember either, yeah. It's okay because they're brothers. Oh, no, he's in the post-credits scene.

So there you go. Great. He's back. I used to. Yeah, yeah, I's in the post-credits scene. So there you go. Great. He's back. I used to. Yeah, yeah, I can remember that. He's back, Manta, as we know. Yeah, so you've got to make the world safe for single dads everywhere. You've got to.

Dad's having it tough out there. So that's the movie. Especially this time of year. Yeah. You know? Now, this movie begins with a thing that I really enjoy. I love being Aquaman. I'm a king of Atlantis.

Nice. Is that? No, it starts when they take the studio logo and they make it a little bit different. Yeah, they do, don't they? So maybe add, you know, they- Some corral? Yes, exactly.

They add some, you know, they make it animated or they make it appropriate to the movie in question. But what I liked about this one is it's the Warner Brothers logo sunk to the bottom of the ocean, covered in rusted barnacles. Yes. And it's like, if that ain't a metaphor for the movie industry as a whole, just an abandoned logo, just ruined, and no one cares.

Yep. No one's going to bring it back to the surface. What's the point? Yeah. Let it go. So that didn't hook you in. Or lure you. It didn't lure me in. But I thought this movie was pretty fun.

It's way better than I was led to believe. Yeah. Yeah. It's not great. No. But it's a bit of fun. I went with my son. He enjoyed it thoroughly.

Has he seen the first Aquaman? No. He's seen Blue Beetle and this. Okay, great. Those are the two live action comic book movies he's seen. Just the tail end. Yeah. The fish tail end. the shark tail end.

Yeah, I think it's stronger than the first though. Yeah. From memory. Every scene doesn't end with an explosion. Some do. Some do though. Yeah. Yeah, I reckon in an environment where we were getting kind of a hit comic book movie, superhero movie every few months,

I reckon we'd be like, yeah, this was a pretty fun time, like generally. I think it's just now we're in the back end. People don't want this at the moment. Yeah. Yeah, if this came out four or five years ago, probably would have done pretty well, I'd imagine. I think people would be like, yes, and oh, we loved the last one

or whatever we said about the last one. We remember the last one and we're going to remember this one. Oh, he's back, Manta. I didn't know that. That's exactly right. Yeah. It's just a different era. I think choices have been made, and I don't mean that negatively.

I mean, and speaking, you know, last week we talked about Rebel Moon. Actual choices have been made about the design of stuff. Yes. And it doesn't look like somebody just went on, you know, mid-journey and went apocalyptic future, imperial army, space army, looks good, moody, sexy Nazis. Yep, exactly. You know, whatever.

James Wan? Yes. You know, there's a lot of great looking underwater worlds. There is. And we, you know, the different environments. Different neon environments. Exactly. There's like, there's desert sequences, there's jungle sequences,

there's like a James Bond villain-esque kind of volcano lair. Yeah, there is a volcano lair. There's a Lord of the Rings moment. There's an underwater city that is built of abandoned pirate ships, which I thought was a cool look. All the sea creatures look cool. They do look cool. Costumes are good.

There's an octopus. He's a friend of the people. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's Topo. That's the same one. Yeah. He's smaller than I thought. I thought he was really big. Oh. And last one. He's a little fella. Oh, yes.

And everybody's back. Yeah. For the most part. For the most part. Willem Dafoe got the flu and died. Sure he did. Off screen. Spoiler alert, I guess. If you care. No one cares. I think what works here the most in terms of, like, characterisation is the pairing of Jason Momoa and Patrick Wilson.

There's a fun kind of prison breakout sequence where they're in the desert and they're not desert boys. No, that's true. But they're making a go of it and just they're bickering. And they're jungle boys. They're not jungle boys either. They're not volcano boys either. No, that's right.

They're fish boys. Yeah, and just the bickering and that. And I wouldn't even say like none of it's particularly laugh out loud or inventive or even particularly. It's just their chemistry like drives that relationship. And again, we probably have to brush away the many people that Ocean Master killed in the previous movie, which I don't remember.

You remember when he screamed, I am the Ocean Master. I do remember that, yes. And he was for a time. That's true, yeah. Yeah. Who did most of the killing? Because in the last movie, he teamed up with Black Manta. Yeah.

Who did? I don't know. I don't know exactly. He killed a king, I think. He killed a fish king. Okay, sure. Jumon Honsu was like a green fish man. He killed him.

Oh, I see. And he did a bunch of other stuff. Yeah, right. I'm assuming. Nicole Kidman's here. She's like, hi, I killed him. Oh, I see. And he did a bunch of other stuff, I'm assuming. Nicole Kidman's here. She's like, hi, I love underwater. Yeah, let me help you give birth in the water. There's a moment where Black Manta invades the underwater Aquaman city

and the defense are riding on robot sharks. Yes. And I'm like, love that. Neon robot shark. That's cool. Big fan of that. Because it's probably a thing that they used to do with real sharks. And then the sharks went on strike.

Yeah, that's right. This is actually cruel to us. Sharks. That's right. It's the ASPCS. What's that? The Atlantean Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Sharks. Good, I think.

BS by sharks. BS? I don't call it BS. I call it a good fun moment. Oh, yeah. Also, I can't stress enough, I understand if people are like, I hate this. B.S. Bisharks. B.S. I don't call it B.S. I call it a good fun moment. Oh, yeah. Also, I can't stress enough. I understand if people are like, I hate this. Sure, okay.

But I don't think it's like, I feel similarly to this in the Marvels where it's like, it's all right, man. Yeah. It's okay. I think it's more fun than the Marvels. Yeah, probably. As a movie that I quite liked, I think the Marvels, I think Aquaman to me was just more fun. Yeah.

You know, it's a case of, you know, the whole world's at stake and blah, blah, blah, but it's quite breezy, you know. Yeah. We don't really think the world's going to end because what if they did? What if this movie, they're like, yeah, the DC Universe is ending. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if the world ended in this. Yeah.

So I guess we can talk about Amber Heard's role, and this is a slight spoiler, I guess. She's in it way more than I thought. My understanding was, and the internet led me to believe, that they were just going to kill her in the first set. Maybe I led you to believe that. Maybe you did. Because that's what I guessed.

You did send me a lot of handwritten notes. Yeah, that's right. I got a lot of express post parcels, which was just a handwritten note saying that. You think Amber Heard's going to live in this movie? Well, you've got another thing coming. And this tin of mackerel. The next tin of mackerel is going to come a lot quicker.

I'll tell you that, mate. But, yeah, so she's technically in it for most of this movie. Yes. But, yeah, four lines and a lot of the scenes, she doesn't really appear to be in the scenes with other people. Like they'll just cut to her and she'll be like, that's Ora Kalklin. That's bad.

It's bad for the environment or whatever she says. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure. So they've really pared down. I wonder if they've done that. Do you think they did that in production or do you think they did that in the edit? It feels like in the edit. Yeah.

I don't know. You know, this movie's a mystery. It's a mystery to me. Yeah, I reckon they've – my guess would be, because again, there are a lot of scenes where Aquaman sits down with his dad and they share a Guinness-branded beer. Yes. And they talk about how tough it gets. Which is Guinness and not beer, but Shookshaw.

Go on, Mason. Go on. Where they sit down and they discuss... Would you call it canned Guinness or a can of Guinness? I would call it a can of Guinness. Yeah, you would. Anyone calling it canned Guinness is an insane man who's never spoken a word before. of Guinness. I would call it a can of Guinness. Anyone calling it canned Guinness is an insane man.

Who's never spoken a word before. Who was born and then locked up in a cave. But before they were locked up in a cave, somebody whispered canned Guinness in their ear. And when they emerged, they said that. And people were like, what? Have you not been part of society for the last 30 plus years? No, I haven't. Candid Guinness.

Yeah, but there's a lot of scenes where they sit down and they talk about how tough it is being a dad. It's tough. And it kind of feels like these should have been scenes where Aquaman and Mirror talk about how tough it is being parents. Yeah. But it's not. No, not at all.

Because I think that feels like emergency stations reshoots where they're like yeah we've got a we've got a blank spot here where we need some emotional resonance what do we put in here and that stuff is cheap to do and that stuff is easy to do because a lot of the conversations that he has about being a single dad you just shoot it in a room you know it's not a big underwater sequence everybody's hair floating about and all exactly yeah it's an easy way to do it. There's a couple of new looks for Aquaman. I think they've beefed up his old suit a bit.

Jason Momoa's like, I'm not doing shirtless abs anymore. This is a Blade III situation. Which I appreciate. Yeah. I mean, he's looking big. It's a big suit. And there's some flashbacks to previous movies. Yeah.

Where they, you know, where he really put the work in. Absolutely. And why do you have to do it twice? You don't. Yeah. You don't and you shouldn't have to. He has his stealth suit as well. Sure.

Which is fine, I guess. They're not really necessary, I don't think. There's not really any scenes where it's desperately important that he's invisible. He should have brought his trident with him for most of this movie because he doesn't. Turns out it's pretty integral at the end. Yeah. And, of course, Patrick Wilson is looking ripped as hell.

He's looking ripped as hell. But they do the Chris Evans in Captain America 1 where they body swap him with a real scrawny dude. Scrawing him down and big him up again. Exactly. Yeah. So the villain's good. Black Manta's back and he's like, revenge.

I'm going to do some revenge. Yeah, it's time for revenge. I'm going to unlock a trident and it's going to do a big lord of the rings on everybody that just looks like like sauron's castle like that the villain yeah it's all just i'm gonna unlock sauron that yeah it's sauron with a big with a big green smog filter over the front yeah that's right yeah and it's that guy from game of thrones or whatever who was also a seaman in that do you remember it was a big sea guy vaguely yeah that's true, actually. Yeah.

So that's fun, isn't it? All of that's fun and whatever. Yeah, look, and I think the action sequences are good. They're, you know, they could be a little bit predictable. Yep. But I think, you know, adding in the novelty of all the undersea creatures and all the various crazy monsters and that sort of stuff. Yeah.

Jonathan, speaking of Lord Owings, Jonathan Rhys-Davies. Oh, yes. Is a crab king. He's the crab king, yes. Or something. And he's just – He was probably in the last one. Yeah.

And he's got a mask that slides down and up like he's Bumblebee. Yeah, Black Manta has a bunch of, you know, I think like very kind of 1960s Austin Powers kind of super spy equipment, like a big hammerhead shark kind of submarines with big bay windows that you can see out of them. Big wheels that you turn. Kind of little squid submarine shuttles that have like kind of wavy kind of all-purpose tentacles

that are good for swimming and flying and grabbing and shooting. They're great for that actually. Yeah, they actually seem great for that. And they're powered by orichalcum, which is important. Oh, yes, that's right. Because what happens if you use too much orichalcum? Blows up, I think. No, Mason, it makes the world too hot,

which will unleash Lord of the Rings on everybody. That's true, yeah. And that's not a good thing actually. Yeah. Yeah, we're not paying attention. No. And what's his name? Black Manta's henchman's in this. That's true. It's not a good thing, actually. Yeah. Yeah. We're not paying attention. No. And what's his name? Black Manta's henchman's in this.

What's his name? His name is Randall Park. Yeah. And he's a fun addition. He was in the last one and now he's back. Yeah. Just faffing about and whatever. Yeah.

Yeah. And all of those things. Everybody gets a go in a bunch of different universes. Randall Park's in this. He's in WandaVision. Yep. He's in other things. That's right.

He's in The Office. He's Yahya Abdul-Mateen because he's in this and he's in WandaVision. Yep, he's in other things. That's right. He's in The Office. He's Yahya Abdul-Mateen because he's in this and he's also Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen. He's going to be WandaMan. He's going to be WandaMan. He is going to be WandaMan. Or he was. He was, that's right.

I don't know whether that's still happening. I knew it was something, yeah. But he also called this movie clown work. Oh, he did too, didn't he? Yeah. But in the sense of the elegant French art. That's what he meant, yeah. Yes. But I thought he was good. I thought he was good too. French art. That's what he meant, yeah. Yes.

But I thought he was good. I thought he was good too. He's a very menacing, like he's a good physical presence. There's a moment where they're like, look, he doesn't even have his super suit anymore. And I'm like, is this not the super suit? He looks like a super suit. Oh, no. He's just wearing like a latex rubber suit and a helmet.

Whatever. But yeah, but he's pretty super actually. They could have made maybe the power suit a different color or something. Sure. They do look quite similar. I mean, because it still had the jet pack, so I just assumed that it was a similar-ish suit. Should we do some spoilers?

Let's do some spoilers. I'm going to say best movie ever. Yeah, look, again, it's if... In the heyday of superhero movies, which we are now sadly behind, it seems, or I think we would have been like, yeah, this is a good addition to the canon. Good enough. What a bit of fun, you know. We're not in the heyday, so what do you think of that?

I think it's still good. Still fine. Yeah. Again, I would say fine, not great. I think we've hit the point where people are like, well, let's put the boot in because this universe is failing and it's done. I think also we're at the point with, and I think with regular people who aren't weird online freaks like us, that this isn't good enough as a movie to see. You know, like a lot of these ideas have been saying, oh yeah, he's a fish guy and whatever. Like we've seen this story over the past 10 years, like many different variations.

So it's like, it needs, again, we've talked about this, it needs to change. And this is just on the tail end of that. Oh, fish down. It feels like, you know, like you remember the end of like the Fox Marvel run of like X-Men movies? It's not as bad as that. Absolutely not. But it's that feel of like this needs to become something else now.

Right, okay. Because there's too many world ending threats. Yeah, that and just like the tropes and whatever and like the banter and the vibes and all of that is just like too many bants. Yeah. I would have seen one more movie of more bants. Well, you're not going to. You're not allowed to.

With Aquaman and Orm, I think that would have been. Well, you're not allowed to. I know. It's illegal. You'll go to jail. Is that what you want? So, yeah, best movie ever, bearing in mind that it is Aquaman 2, bear that in mind.

Okay. Yeah. Two wet boys having a go at it. They're having a go. Yeah. That's important. Spoilers. So they unlock the king of Lord of the Rings.

So the big overarching threat is that Black Manta finds this black trident, which was – Well, it's green, but yeah. It's black and then it's green. But it's got green powers. Is this going to be a black versus gold dress situation, James? Because I think it's a black trident. Yeah, well, it is.

And then it does, shoots grain. Or gives you a green vision. Yeah, but anyway, Black Manta finds the trident. He's digging around for stuff that he can use to kill Aquaman. And he finds this black trident. And it gives him a vision of a king in Atlantis who was the brother of the previous king, I think. He's the brother of the Atlantean king. Yeah.

And they have a big war. Like thousands of years ago or whatever. Thousands of years ago. They do a Lord of the Rings at each other. That's exactly right. Because he was using orichalcum. That's exactly right. Which is bad.

It produces all those greenhouse gases. Yeah. Go on. Sorry. And then he's defeated by the good guys, and the good guys seal him in an icy prison under the earth so he can never escape. But the evil king is sending his evil thoughts into the Black Trident.

And so Black Manor is going to – he needs the blood of the Atlantean royal family to unlock this king and then he's going to destroy the world with greenhouse gases. He's going to emerge. Yep. Do a big Lord of the Rings on everyone. Going to do a big Lord of the Rings on everybody. And lo and behold, oh, they need Aquaman's son

because if not Patrick Wilson or Jason Momoa, you get a little Aquaboy. Or Nicole Kidman. Oh, yeah, that's true. You could Nicole Kidman. Or is it only boys? Well, it depends. Is she from the direct line?

Oh, she would be from the direct line. She'd have to be. Because of integrating. Well, that and, like, because his dad is Boba Fett. That's true, yeah. So you don't need the DNA of Boba Fett. That's true, yes. This isn't an attack of the clones situation.

That's right. So, yeah, they unlock him and he's got his black trident. He's fucking loving it. He's, like, finally on back. But luckily, Aquaman has his super powerful trident, which he had in the previous movie, and he's got his black trident. He's fucking loving it. He's like finally I'm back. But luckily Aquaman has his super powerful trident, which he had in the previous movie, and he throws it. And it destroys that trident and kills him. Yeah, pretty cool.

Yeah, pretty cool. I guess, yeah, because that was a special trident, wasn't it? He had to talk to Julie Andrew Seamonster. Well, it's a special trident, but it was also powered by brotherhood. Oh, yeah. Because Orm goes here, throws the trident, and he yeah. Because Orm goes, here, throw the Trident. Yeah. And he throws it at Aquaman, and then Aquaman throws the Trident. If they didn't have that

particular brotherly alley-oop, it wouldn't have worked, would it? It might have worked. Nah, I don't think it would have worked. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Because he caught the first Trident. I just think he should have caught the second Trident. With his other hand? Oh, he didn't have another hand. Oh, that's right! It was missing hands. So I guess they got us there. Do you think they did that on purpose?

Almost certainly, yeah. For these conversations? Yeah, absolutely. Because somebody won. You know what? And that's why I like this movie. Because clearly somebody on set or somebody in the script or whatever went, why wouldn't he just catch the second trident?

And then James Wan just went, well, let's just say he only had one hand. Yeah. It was cold and his hand broke off. Well done, James Wan. That's right. Pretty good stuff. Flawless, bulletproof logic. Yeah, then they all stand on an iceberg and congratulate each other.

That's right. On the good work that they did. And then Orm's free. That's right. He's free to live in the human world and be a beautiful blonde man at the beach. Shouldn't trust an adult blonde man. You don't think? No, I don't think so.

You don't think they naturally exist in the real world? No, I think they do. I think they're evil. I don't know if that's true. Andy Matthews. Oh, yeah. You do have provider data. Because normally, like, they don't stay blonde either.

You get a blonde kid, then they're growing out of that. That's right. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. Okay, fair enough. So the post-credits of this, which people say is a very fitting end. There's a lead-up. Oh, of course. So a very fitting end. There's a lead up. Oh, of course.

So earlier in the movie. Imagine if there wasn't. Earlier in the movie, Orm and Aquaman are doing some brotherly bonding in the jungle. And Aquaman says two things. One, you've got to go out into the earth and you have to eat a delicious.

You have to eat tacos and burritos and nachos. And muy bueno. You have to eat a delicious – You have to eat tacos and burritos and nachos and burgers and chips. And muy bueno. You have to eat a big greasy cheeseburger. And Orm's like, I'm human racist and I won't eat any cheeseburgers. But Aquaman's like, nah, you got it. It's going to be good. The human racist would love you, Orm, actually. I think you should – you'd fit right in with human racists.

Yeah. And then – but then Aquaman's like, oh, you should try this delicacy. And he hands him a cockroach, a live cockroach that's on a leaf. And he eats it. And he's like, all right. And then in the post-credits sequence, he's out on some sort of jetty, which is also a burger joint. And he orders a cheeseburger and he bites it.

And he's like, this is pretty good. And then he sees a cockroach and he puts the cockroach in the burger. This is in the post-credits. This is later. This is the post-credits. We circle back around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he puts the cockroach in the burger and he eats it with a big crunch and he's

like, that's good stuff. Yeah. That's the stuff. The end. First of all, why is there a cockroach at this burger restaurant? Why isn't there? Well, this is fair enough. I think that's very reasonable.

I think it's fine. Okay, that's great. So the joke doesn't work if there's no cockroach. I know. If they cut back to it, he's just eating the burger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if they cut, what if he's eating the burger and then there's a freeze frame like in one of those old movies at the end and there's just eating the burger yeah yeah what if they cut what if he's eating the burger and then there's a freeze frame like in one of those old movies at the end and there's just like

a text line it says or wish there was a cockroach there that he could put in his burger and eat it because he got a quite a taste for cockroaches he certainly did didn't he yeah just looking at that guy in this movie because i know jason momoa thought this as well like he would have made an excellent traditional look aquaman yeah right yeah which I guess is what they went for in casting him in the first place. Yeah, and you could go with that idea of Aquaman of like he's got a pomposity to him. Yes. Because he lives in the ocean and he doesn't know human ways and then he kind of learns humility and then he becomes more in tune with humanity,

which is what Orm's character arc sort of has been. Yeah. But you're right. Yeah. But that doesn't matter because whatever, I guess, this is now finished. Yeah, and also Black Man who is defeated. Well, the king is defeated and then Black Man is also defeated.

But then he's about to fall into a big crevasse. Yeah, Indiana Jones style. I'm not sure. And then Aquaman, this time instead of leaving him, puts out the hand of friendship and brotherhood. He's like, why don a big crevasse. Yep. Indiana Jones style. I'm not sure. And then Aquaman, this time, instead of leaving him, puts out the hand of friendship and brotherhood. He's like, why don't you be our third brother? That's what he says. You should be our third bro, our third Aqua bro.

Yeah. You weren't born of the ocean, but you live in the ocean, and that's enough for us because we're Aqua bros. Yeah. He did try to cave my son's head in with an axe. But then again, my actual brother did try to kill me last time as well. And this time just before. Yeah, just moments ago.

So anyway, that's good enough for me. We can be aqua bros. And then Black Man is like, no, I'm going to leap off. You're an aqua bog. That's right. I'm going to leap into this crevasse and I'll see you in the sequel, he says. That's what he says. That's what he says. And then it's over.

And he gets a ride on a seahorse to get out of there. I don't feel like the seahorse would make him any faster. Yeah, I feel like the Atlanteans, especially Aquaman and Orv, are really fast. Yeah. But they need ships sometimes. That's true. And that's interesting. What else? Let me think about this movie.

James, let me think about this movie. Let's take a breath. Listen, we don't need to think about this movie anymore. It's the end of the DCEU. I thought it was pretty good. Oh, we don't need to think about this movie anymore. I like thinking about this movie. It's the end of the DCEU. I thought it was pretty good. Oh, I was wrong. Nobody dies in this movie. Nobody important, no.

I mean, Black Manta probably, but. Yeah, and the king, the evil king. Yeah, but what was he? That's true. But I guess a lot of people were like, they're going to kill the baby. And I'm like, there's no way. No way. There's no way they're going to kill the baby.

If anything, they were going to kill Mera. Yeah, that's the thing. My impression was they were going to kill the baby. And I'm like, there's no way. No way. There's no way they're going to kill the baby. If anything, they were going to kill Mira. Yeah, that's the thing. My impression was they were going to kill Mira. They didn't. I think they went out of their way. And again, I think there might have been some reshoots so no one dies in this. Sure, okay.

I think they probably were like. We're wrapping it up. Yeah, I think if they were like in an ongoing universe, we probably would have killed Aquaman's dad. Yeah. Because he gets skewered by Black Manta. It did look like they were going to kill him. In a burning house. And he goes, I'm going to kill dad. Yeah. Because he gets skewered by Black Manta. It did look like they were going to kill him. In a burning house.

And he goes, I'm going to kill you. Yeah. But he didn't. That's true. But then he's saved by Atlantean oxygen tent or whatever it is. God. So I think that were like. I thought they were just pumping water into him.

Seawater. That's right. Don't worry, we've got all that technology. That's right. This man needs seawater. A lung full of seawater. Yeah. That was pretty fun.

I've got some reviews here. Go on. This one from Benson Mates says, Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Would you agree Aquaman 2 had a better wrap-up to the DC EU than The Flash? Hope Wan and Gunn can keep some of the tone for the new DC universe. Also, Merry Christmas. Thank you.

Thank you. We didn't wish people a Merry Christmas last year. I didn't want to. Oh, wow. Well, I knew we couldn't. Yeah. Because of, you know, the world. Joe Biden.

We're not allowed. Yeah, we're not allowed to do that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it's a better wrap-up. Also, I like this movie way better than The Flash. It's doing less than The Flash somehow. Like it's trying to do less. Yeah, somehow.

Even though despite there's a lot of different things happening in this movie. Yes, uh-huh. But no, look, again, not great. But it's not even a conclusion. It's just the last movie. Yeah, it sure is. You know? But what, I mean, you know, that.

I don't know. What do you want? Yeah, exactly. That's too much pressure to put on one director who was told, make this Aquaman movie. Yeah. And then the entire industry collapsed around him and he went, I don't know, man. Do you want me to put the multiverse in this? Yeah.

I don't know. We don't care. Well, was it because Ben Affleck was supposed to be in it at one point? Yeah. And Michael Keaton was going to be in it at another point, and they took all of that out. Yeah. Also, I think I predicted that Aquaman was going to meet Lobo

at the end of this. Oh. I lost credits, but that didn't happen, of course. Well, you must feel pretty bad about that. I did feel awful. Yeah. Nate says, just watch both Aquaman movies back to back. Oh, Jesus.

Back to back with Aquaman. And I'm convinced that James Bond doesn't know how to end a conversation without an explosion. Jason Momoa and Patrick Wilson are fun together. Yeah, this has less any conversation than an explosion, but it does happen a couple of times. That's true. I think someone even says something at some point.

Aren't they like, this always happens? Or why does this always happen? Didn't this happen in the last movie? Yeah, yeah. Didn't this happen in the last movie? Yeah, yeah. Didn't this happen in the last movie we were in? Yeah. Aquaman. C. Ray says, I would have fully watched a Black Manta movie,

RIP to the DCEU, though. Yeah, I guess. I'd watch a Black Manta movie. Sure. I mean, we have kind of anyway. We had two. Yeah. And Nate Harris says, James is going to hate Aquaman 2,

not because of the bad effects, terrible dialogue, and sloppy pacing, because it's literally just the man needs baby to free trapped evil spirit plot of Ghostbusters 2. Well, I didn't hate it, and I forgot that these things are connected until just now. Wow. What a time to be alive. We're on the precipice of a new universe, Mason.

Oh, my God. Isn't that exciting? Yes, and I'm glad we're having a year, but at least two years between movies. We can talk about it in between then. Rebel Moon 2? We'll talk about Rebel Moon 2. And then 3, 4, et cetera. And then the extended cuts of all of those.

Oh, I can't wait. With Star Wars, but it's got boobs and blood. Whoa. Whoa, can you imagine? Ooh. Yeah. All right, we've got to move this. All right, let's move on.

I had one final thought about Aquaman. You don't have to have it. I know, but I think it's important. This is one final thought for the rest of your life though, right? About Aquaman? Yeah. Absolutely. Okay.

Final thought, which I noted down at the time, but I didn't say it in the review, is he gets more piss in his mouth than you'd expect. Even for Aquaman. Yeah. Who's swimming around in the ocean and it's mostly piss. Because he points it out. It's mostly animal piss.

He points it out or you see it directly happening. Fish piss and so forth. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of above ground piss in the mouth. Do you think, like, because they're all in the same room underwater and they're sitting at a big fish council, they're just all drinking each other's piss? Yeah, because they're all pissing, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I guess it's not even excessive amount of piss for a DCEU movie. Oh, because of Batman v Superman. Because of all the piss in Batman v Superman, yeah. That's one jar of piss. But it's a lot. This is streams of piss multiple times. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sometimes magically imbued with magic. I would love to know if somebody could do a calculation in terms of like what's the quantity of piss in this movie compared to Batman v Superman.

Or perhaps the quantity of piss in various universes. Like the total amount of piss in the DCEU versus the total amount of piss in the MCU, for example. Was there any piss in the MCU? Maybe. We don't know what kind of universe it is. I bet there's a guy piss piss in the MCU, for example. Was there any piss in the MCU? Maybe.

We don't know what kind of universe it is. I bet there's a guy pissing off a bridge or something. I bet there's a guy. There might be. Yeah. Maybe there's no piss in that universe. Maybe it's all number twos. We don't know.

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Now, as mentioned, Rob Collings was kind enough to put all of this together and also take into account people's own personal preferences. With each of these results, I believe as well, people could add something extra if they wanted to. Sometimes that would make it in. So it's like best and worst from Marvel and DC, video games. Yeah, I have gone through this, believe it or not, Mason. I already know what I'm going to say for most of these, I think. I'm flying blind.

I'll say whatever. I don't care. Yeah, cool, man, cool. So we're going to kick things off with the best of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Thanks for everybody who voted, by the way. Oh, by the way, yeah. Thousands of votes. 4,000 votes, which might be more or less than last year.

I don't know. Are we peaking? Are we dropping off or are we back better than ever? I don't remember. We don't know, man. Yeah. But we'll certainly remember next year. Definitely.

3,998. We're in trouble. We're in trouble. We should have voted, us two. Pack it up. Yeah. So we've got the five Marvel Cinematic Universe things that happened this year. Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantum Mania.

Boo. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 this year. That's right. Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. Boo. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3. Yay. Secret Invasion. Boo. Loki Season 2. Yay-ish. And the Marvels.

Oh, it's all right. Yeah. So in terms of results that, go on. I'm going to guess the audience, big time Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 fans. That's right. Coming in at 77%, followed by Loki at 19%. Then the Marvels at 3.4% and then Quantumania and Secret Invasion.

Secret Invasion got 11 votes. I think. Who did that? Right? I think that is the perfect lineup. I think that's exactly right. I did like Loki Season 2. But I don't think it hit the heights of the first season.

No. It could have, I think. You're saying it didn't. It didn't. But I'm saying Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 is probably the high point of Marvel this year. And it capped off a saga for a lot of people, that trilogy. It was the final piece in the Infinity Saga for a lot of people.

So it makes a lot of sense, you know? Absolutely. Next up, we've got best of the DC Extended Universe. Do you want to read those ones out, Mason? I do. Aquaman 2, The Lost Kingdom. Oh, we just saw that. That's right.

A lot of piss in it. Yep. Blue Beetle, not as much piss. No. The Flash, metaphorically a lot of piss. A lot of piss in that one. And Shazam, Fury of the Gods. God, this is dire, isn't it?

And last year, of course, we had Peacemaker, TV series Peacemaker. Yep. And Black Adam. Those were the two. That was the only two. And Peacemaker won with 95% of the vote somehow. Not what I voted for. Yeah, right.

Not what I would have picked. Look, for me. Hang on, my mum's calling back, so I might be dead. For real? Yeah. Oh, my God. Hello? Oh, sorry, no, I'm recording with my good friend Nick Mason

on our podcast, The Weekly Planet. All right, see you at bat. I had to turn down coffee with my family. I was going to say, that's it? That was it? recording with uh my good friend nick mason on our podcast the weekly planet all right so yeah but i had to turn down coffee with my family i was gonna say that that's it that was it everyone's alive we're going for a little coffee i can go for a coffee anytime i want not now you can't no that's true damn it the only time of my life when i can't go for a little coffee but it's all right james because we're we debate it's okay because we're hotly debating the best of the DCEU. All right, so it's obviously not The Flash, right? Can we both agree on that?

We can absolutely agree on that. I would also say it's not Shazam 2. Correct. I like Blue Beetle. I think everybody's charming in Blue Beetle, but I think it – look, both of these, the remaining contenders, Aquaman 2 and Blue Beetle, I think they skew very closely to just a very classic superhero movie. Depending on your feelings on that.

That's either like quite boring and cliched or like this is why you go to the movies kind of thing. The first one for me. The first one for you. But for me personally, maybe it's recency bias. It almost certainly is. But for me, it's probably Aquaman 2. I like the Blue Beetle design. I think it's.

Yeah. I'm going to say Blue Beetle because at least it was a new character. Great. I guess. Technically. I guess. And I like the lead performance. Yep. And all of that. I think there was some fun Blue Beetle because at least it was a new character. I guess, technically. I like the lead performance and all of that. I think there was some fun Blue Beetle stuff in it.

I'm like, oh, it's the ship. Oh, it's the old Blue Beetle costume. Oh, it's the grandma. She's a murderer. That's enough for me. Again, I thought Aquaman 2 was fine. Blue Beetle actually did win with 67%. There you go.

Followed by The Flash at 19%. Who's responsible for that? Who did that? That sounds like somebody's gamed the numbers. They've gone some sort of, made some backroom deals on some sort of campaign. I don't like it. I'm mad about it.

Shazam 2, 11%. Aquaman 2, 7%. I think that's a recency bias. I don't think Aquaman 2. But in reverse? Yeah, exactly. It should get less. In a bad way.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. So there you go. Oh my goodness, this is a new one. Best of the Barbenheimer universe. Yeah,. In a bad way. Wow. Yeah. Wow. So there you go. Oh, my goodness. This is a new one. Best of the Barbenheimer universe. Yeah, once in a lifetime pairing.

Barbie and Oppenheimer. God, how do you even compare these? Yeah, right? I saw them one after the other in the order of Oppenheimer, then Barbie. I think I did the reverse. Whoa. That's right. I'll do anything.

That's a real recency bias situation. Yeah, because I'm going with Oppenheimer, I think. Okay, well, then I'll say Barbie because why not? But I thoroughly enjoyed both of them. Which one would you be more likely to revisit? Oppenheimer. Which one would you more likely watch with your dad? Oppenheimer?

Even the sex stuff? That's a great point. That's a great question. I also think my parents did see Barbie and Oppenheimer. I think they liked both of them. This is why these movies did well. I know. Because they got everybody's parents in.

That's right. So, sure, I'll say Barbie then. Barbie, 51.4%. Oppenheimer, 48.6%. Ooh. Right down the line. That's a classic result. Like us.

Mm-hmm. Oh, this is a big one. This is a big one, Mason. Oh, it is. I mean, it's not for anyone else, but for us. For this particular community, I think this is a big one. This is a big one. 4,000 votes probably.

Yeah. What is it? This is Best Hair or Wig. Yes. Last year, we both voted for Timothy Oylephant in the Book of Boba Fett. Yep, that's right. That's a good call, I think. But here's some options for you folks. Yep.

Anson Mount in Strange New World Season 2. Yep. David Tennant in the Doctor Who special. He says bigger than ever. Margot Robbie in Barbie. Okay. Jazz Sinclair in Gen V. I'm loving than ever. Margot Robbie in Barbie. Okay. Jazz Sinclair in Gen V. I'm loving all this.

Ray Stevenson in Ahsoka. I'm thinking that's hair and beard. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, yeah. That's okay. Ryan Gosling in Barbie. Yep. Shea Whigham in Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning.

I'm loving this one. It's a bit of an outsider, you know? It's not what you brought me. You brought this to my attention. And you're right. It's a really good one. Taika Waititi, Our Flag Means Death Season 2. Yeah, I guess.

And Tom Blythe in the Three Hour Hunger Games prequel. No, not that one. No. And look, I'm going to also eliminate. Look, Ray Stevenson's is good. It's fine though, right? It's good. It's good.

If you took away the beard. He'd just be a man with regular hair. Yeah. Rest in peace. All right. A man with regular hair. Yeah. Rest in peace. All right. A man with regular hair. Barbie. I mean, Margot Robbie has great hair.

Sure. But I mean. But what's different or spectacular about it? No, not for me. Yeah. Anson Mount. Like, he's always a contender. Yeah. He's not doing anything different with it this year.

But don't you think there's a consistency to this that we should take into account? I think you've got gray hair recency bias, James. Because you're looking at that and you're like this is everything i aspire to be on my best day i wish i wish i could pull that off you know um and david tennant i mean he's back and his hair is bigger than ever it is bigger than ever but is it like did you look at it and go wow this is blowing me away okay i'm like'm like, it shouldn't work, but it does work. And I'm like, maybe I could make my hair do a bit like that, but then I'm like, no, that's like an hour of professional stuff. You know what I mean?

You have to pull out every individual strand and clip it and spray it and wait and all that. And I'm like. Okay, what about this then? Because Shea Wiggum's hair, it's looking good, and he's an everyman. He's running about. That's an achievable hair. I think so. of a regular looking guy yeah just making it work for

him ryan gosling's can hair is upsetting and i know it's supposed to be yeah like and it's got that comb down i don't i don't like it at all yeah okay he's like his whole vibe is i mean it's great but it's it's i don't like it at all yeah um hunger games no for me it's me, it's a tie between David Tennant and Shea Wiggum, but I think I'm going to go with Shea. What about Jaz Sinclair? Because he's got Wiggum in his name. Like, Jaz Sinclair, like, that's a spectacular head of hair. That is true.

And we'll keep that in mind for next year. See how it evolves. Yeah. All right. Well, look, I'm going to go with – Also, I didn't finish watching Gen V. Okay. But I definitely finished Dead Reckoning Part 1.

Certainly. Well, I'm going to say Anson Mount, but not for the reasons that you said, for my own reasons, personal reasons. Oh, secret personal reasons that have nothing to do with the fact that you're both grey kings. You're both monochrome kings, James. Well, Mason, you were right because Shea Wiggum came in at 17%. Nice.

God, this is a tight field, Mason. Ray Stevenson, 16%. David Tennant, 15%. Margot Robbie, 14%. Anson Mount, 12%. Wow. Some huge contenders this year. Agreed.

I wouldn't say there's any particularly standout ones, though, this year, I would say. I feel like Timothy Oldfield is like, that's a clear winner. Right. We've spent longer than this on anything else. And we'll never spend longer on anything else, but of course this leads into the shay wiggum's hair is it's quite tall yeah and you'd be like is it too tall no it's perfect not too tall not too tall it's perfect yeah okay worst hair or wig oh yeah okay right okay uh last year some contenders were scar from

she hulk which i voted for yeah yeah and. Spider and Avatar too because it's a white man with red locks. Yep. And the listeners voted for Hawkeye in Avengers Endgame. It's just always in there. Yeah. Let's see. Okay, contenders this year. Beast in the Marbles.

That's CGI monstrosity. Spoiler alert. I don't think that's terrible. Yeah, no, it's fine. I think it captures like the comic book X-Men 97 vibe. I think the CGI model is not great of the character but i think the look is fine uh ben affleck in air yep that's upsetting uh david tenant he's getting two guns what's happening who did this fascinating evangeline lillian

quantum mania that's a big karen that's atrocious yeah uh greasy barry allen in the flash so young barry allen yeah slightly younger. Whatever, I guess. Uh, Henry Cavill in the Argyle trailer. He's got that flat top. I like it. You would. I don't, I like, I don't like it. Yeah.

But I don't look at it and go, that's disgusting. I do. Okay. Uh, Jay Baruchel in Blackberry. He's got a, if you haven't seen it. That is disgusting. Some long sort of blonde, like swept over situation here. Yep.

Rosario Dawson and Ahsoka. Because it's upsetting, what is it? And it's two big flesh sacks is what it is. Yep. Tom Blythe, once again, in three-hour Hunger Games prequel. But this is him with his head shaved. Yeah, the accompanying photo is the M&M hair. This is a better look for him, though. I think, yeah, no, I like the long hair.

Yeah? But I don't think it's good enough to win any awards. I completely agree with you on that one. And, of course I like the long hair. Yeah? But I don't think it's good enough to win any awards. I completely agree with you on that one. And, of course, Hawkeye again. Yeah. Is the meta going to win for the listeners? That's a great question. I'm going to go with, God, that Ben Affleck hair is really bad.

But the thing is, it's supposed to be. Yeah. I think the Evangeline Lilly hair, I'm going to pick that one. I also think that as well. It's like, what are you, a hobbit? What is this? For me, it would be a tie between Evangeline Lilly and Henry Cavill, but I wasn't out yet.

He's a contender for next year. I think he's in the running. If you had a mustache, would that change it for you? Because that's Chris Evans' look in The Gray Man. No, I don't think it would change it, no. I'm steadfast. I think it's Evangeline Lilly because she's had greater hair. She's had better hair in the previous movies and in life true and they've just gone with well she's

slightly older so we have to give her the matted down karen hair yeah i have they gone we have to justify why she wears the helmet she has to wear i guess or is it because there's is it because cassie is in the movie and they need to distinguish them? They can't both have long hair. Maybe that's it. But anyway, big mistake. Great. Huge mistake. So the winner is Hawkeye at 40%.

Of course it is, yeah. He's done it again. Followed by Evangeline Lilly at 17%. Then the first real one. Yeah. And then Henry Cavill, 16%. And Greasy Barry Allen, 13%. And Jay Baruchel, 7%.

Yeah, right. That Jay Baruchel one is really pretty terrible, though, and it changes multiple times throughout the movie. That's true, yes. So not a terrible movie, but terrible hair. Oh, here's an award for us. This is a new one. Yeah, thank you, Rob Collins, for including this one.

This is an award for the most normal man of the year. Who has been the most normal this year? Just a normal man doing normal things. And here's our options. Bob Chapek. Yep. These are all executives, pretty much doing normal things. And here's our options. Bob Chapek. Yep. These are all executives pretty much. Not all.

Oh, you know those. Okay, right. They're all executives of a type. Sure. They have executive mindset, don't they? Yeah, well, you got to. You got to. Okay, Bob Chapek.

So that's former Disney CEO. Yep. Bob Iger. Current. Yep. David Zaslav of Warner Brothers Discovery. Psycho. President Donald Trump.

I mean, he's just doing the same. I feel like he's just playing the hits at this point. Remember that one time he didn't? Oh, with the hair? Yeah. I'm not talking about hair. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry.

I'm still on hair. Remember the time he did it? He did it once. Yeah. And it was like a different look. It didn't look terrible. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Elon Musk, very normal. Yep. Ike Perlmutter. Which one's he again? Wait, which one's he? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Elon Musk, very normal. Yep. Ike Perlmutter. Which one's he again? Wait, which one's he? He's the former Marvel guy. Remember the guy? Oh, yeah, he's awful.

He's Donald Trump's friend. Yeah, yeah, he's terrible. I forgot which. The haunted photo. Yeah. Jeff Bezos. Yep. J.K. Rowling.

Yep. Mr. Beast, Tom Cruise, and The Rock. All right. Not on here, interestingly, is the meta guy. Oh, Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg. He built a compound this year. Of course he did.

He's like an underground thing. All right. Well, I'm going to. They're going to fill your air vents with cement. Definitely. And that's good. Zuckerberg. They're just going to do that.

All right. I'm going to straight up eliminate Mr. Beast, Tom Cruise, The Rock. Okay. Sure. Entertainers. Yeah. Are they doing any real damage? Not to the extent of others, I would say.

You know, a lot of them are putting good things out in the world. J.K. Rowling's just on, she's stuck in turf brain mode. Yeah. She's just, that gear is just jammed. The gear is jammed. The gear always gets jammed. And then they can't do anything else. Don't go down that road.

You'll never get out of it. That's your whole life now. Now you've got to do this forever. Forever, yeah. Yeah, I mean, and she's bad. I don't like her and all her work is terrible, but she hasn't switched gears in years. No, it's the same.

This isn't new, I don't think. I feel the same about Elon Musk. And the only reason he's kind of up front is because he built Twitter, or he bought Twitter. He didn't build anything. Yeah, yeah. And that's boring to me. He's boring. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And that's boring to me. He's boring.

Yeah, sure, sure. So I'm going to eliminate that. Even when he posts a photo of his bedside table or whatever and it's got Diet Cokes and a fake sci-fi gun, he's like, look at my bedside table. And the time he said, like, this is just like the guy Blade Runner or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah.

And it's like, does he think the guy's name is Blade Runner or is this a joke? I can't tell. Or was it the time when he was like, I don't drink alcohol, but sometimes I like to look at a fine wine or whatever it was. God. Remember that one? Normal man.

Yeah, yeah. But I don't think he's really done anything. Nah. This year it's all just him replying to really deranged tweets and going like, interesting. Yeah. Ooh, true. Racism.

I like that. I like that. Ike Perlmutter, whatever. Jeff Bezos, same shit. Yeah. I think for me I like that. Ike Perlmutter, whatever. Jeff Bezos, same shit. I think for me the standout. Jeff Bezos hasn't even gone to space this year as far as I know. What the fuck's he doing? He didn't even go to space this year and come back with a cowboy hat.

We were like, did you get that in space? Yeah, and also I think it was last year that I heard his real voice, as in 2022, and that was shocking to me. It was like, hi, I'm Jeff Bezos. And I'm like, whoa, shit, you walk around like that? I didn't know. I thought he had a normal man's voice, but he doesn't. He doesn't.

So whatever. But I think it's Zaslav. If you look at, I mean, I guess the same could be applied to Bog Iger. Bog Iger, yeah, yeah. But Zaslav, like, the way that he approached the strikes and then the way that he's gutting Warner Brothers, throwing movies aside, just saying insane things. Well, that's the thing as well. It's not even just that he's gutting warner brothers yeah throwing movies aside just saying insane things well that's the thing as well it's not even just that he's destroying this company and they're paying him to do it yeah like they change the conditions of his of his

contract to be like the more of this you destroy the more money you get and he's like well i will then i will but the fact that he's he's saying these weird things where he's like i think people are enjoying this you know like he's got that vibe of like, I think this is going to work out really well for everybody. Who? Who, David Zaslav? The people who like this stuff because they're not getting it. The people who work there because they're all getting fired.

Yeah. What is it? And like at the end with the, when after the strikes all came, you know, but it all was over, he was like, I think it was good actually. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, what? Or didn't he say something along the He was like, I think it was good actually. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, what? Didn't he say something along the lines of like, oh, well, it's actually because they're demanding too much or something.

Yeah. It was one of those, wasn't it? There were a few of them said that. I wish I had a bunch of quotes up here, but I'm just going to have to imagine them. We talked about it earlier in the interview. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's, yeah, it is Zaslav, absolutely. All right, let's see what we got.

What do the people think? Elon Musk, 34%. That's not bad. Fair enough. Yep. David Zaslav, 29%. MrBeast, 8%. Tom Cruise, 8%.

Bob Iger, 4%. I had the idea of a MrBeast video the other day. Go on. And it's just, I killed your dog. Okay, sure. And it's just him. He's just, he's got to kill your dog. He's making a soy face?

Yeah. And what? It's not I killed 100 dogs, it's I killed your dog. Right, okay. Is this some sort of system where he's killed everybody's dog? I don't know. Because sometimes he's like, I'm locked in a supermarket, but what he's done is locked somebody else in a supermarket.

Oh, I see. So I don't know whether he's sending, whether he's getting people to kill their own dogs. I don't know what he's doing. My assumption there would be that he's getting people to kill their own dogs. I don't know what he's doing. My assumption there would be that he's killed a bunch of people's dogs and then there's something to do with IP addresses. So when you click the video, it takes you to your specific one where he's killed your dog.

I'd like to think that if you click on it, you have to kill somebody else's dog. So it's like a chain letter. Yeah great things, James. It's like a chain letter. Yeah, sure. When you kill each other's dog. Bring back the chain letters. I did a chain letter for 100,000 people and they had to kill someone's dog.

I don't like it, James. No, I don't like it either. I wish he didn't and you didn't and nobody killed anybody else's dog. Completely agree. That's right. What's next? The next one is best villain of the year.

Oh, my God. And here we go. Bowser from Super Mario Brothers. The Cocaine Bear from Cocaine Bear. The titular Cocaine Bear. Jason Momoa's Dante. He's fun. The Genie from Fast X.

Godzilla from Godzilla Minus One. That's a good one. Hugh Grant's Forge from Dungeons and Dragons. Too comical to be for me. Like, that's a fun guy. Yeah, right, right. But does that aid it, though? Light-hearted. But, I mean, it works in the context of the movie. Like, that's a fun guy. Yeah, right, right. But does that aid it, though? It's light-hearted.

But, I mean, it works in the context of the movie. It's a light-hearted adventure with some dead wives or whatever. Yeah. The High Evolutionary from Guardians Vol. 3. Oh, that's a good one. Gabriel and the Entity from Mission Impossible. Sure, yeah. Nick Cage's Dracula from Renfield.

Yeah. Oppenheimer from Oppenheimer. Oh, my God. Interesting. Some people probably think it's a hero. Yeah. But in a way, it's more complicated. That's how the movie works.

Yeah. No, Mason, it's the way I think. Oh, the patriarchy from Barbie. Damn, finally getting them. The spot from across the Spider-Verse. Yes, but also, is that what that movie's even about? Like, for me, I'm not like, that's the thing in the movie. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

Showing your hand early there, Jones. You're welcome art scourge from transformers rise of the beast whatever you know that one that turned into a truck or a car or a ice cream van or whatever or a jet or a helicopter he took his face off at the end did he yeah that's great that happened a couple of times great for him yeah uh superfly from tmnt mutant mayhem thrown from ahsoka no the scream guy from scream six it just says scream it just says scream so ghost face no scream scream Fly from TMNT and Mutant Mayhem. Thrawn from Ahsoka. No. The Scream Guy from Scream 6. It just says Scream. It does say Scream. Ghostface.

No, Scream. Scream. Mr. Scream. Well, for me, it's a toss-up between awful Godzilla, just an awful time, and the High Evolutionary. Yeah. Awful and sinister in different ways. That's very true.

What I loved about the High Evolutionary is that, like, he's a guy actively doing bad and being like, I'm doing this for the good of the universe, but he obviously isn't, and then they beat him up. Yeah, that's true. And that's what I love. That is satisfying. You're absolutely right.

And Godzilla, it was seeing something that mean. He was so mean. He was really mean. Why was he that mean? He's really mean, but I feel he's also an animal. Yes, okay. So maybe that takes him out of contention for me. Jason Momoa's Dante, he's having a delightful time.

Yeah. And I like that he overshadowed everybody else in the movie. They didn't like that. They didn't? One person in particular didn't like it. But that's the thing because they've all been resting on their laurels. Yeah, that's right. And a new guy came in and he got in there and he had a big silky pants.

He did, didn't he? I think that's important. Hugh Grant's Forge was good. Yeah, yeah. But i couldn't name him no neither could i yeah gabriel in the entity i love gabriel's autumnal wardrobe as i've mentioned previously autumnal like it's sort of like it's sort of like it's got some cranberry and some oatmeal and what does that mean like just the colors yeah like autumn colors and textures and just like, you know, you just want to gobble it up. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.

Sure, okay. But I don't know. I think his status as a good villain or not and the entity's status as a villain will depend on the next movie. Oh, okay. Well, let's hold that thought. Yeah. I'm going to go with, and Cocaine Bear, that's a bit of fun,

but again, just an animal. Yeah, that's fine. I'm going to go with Jason Momoa's Dante. Oh, I'm going to go with. and Cocaine Bear, that's a bit of fun. But again, just an animal. I'm going to go with Jason Momoa's Dante. Oh, I'm going to go with. Because movie upset and also real life upset. I'm going to go with The High Evolutionary because it wasn't like, I'm going to shoot the world with a laser. Yep, that's true.

Though he did do that at one point, I think. He did blow up a planet. But I thought just a terrific and really compelling villain, really sinister. And when he got his comeuppance, you were like, feels good. Yeah. Apparently Guardians 3 is not getting any nominations for, like, hair and makeup.

What? Which is astounding. There's a bunch of dog people in that. That's right. They've made, like, thousands of dog people, and the high evolutionary look alone, incredible. That's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.

They painted that dude gold. That's a good movie. What's happening? Yeah, yeah, it is good. The winner, uh-oh, I've jumped around here, is the high evolutionary with 23%, followed by The Spot. Again, I'm saying that because I don't think it's The Spot's movie. Like he triggers an event.

Yeah, right. But then he disappears for most of it. And then you see like, you know, you've got like Spider-Man 2099 and all these other things which are driving it forward. The villainy is about, it's the tyranny of expectations, James. That's right. And the system and like this is what you're expected to do, so you better do it.

And that's how they made the bloody movie, am I right? Oh, yes. That's how I've done it again. Crunch, the villain is Crunch. That's right. The patriarchy, 15.2% followed by Godzilla minus one with 14% and Dante and Oppenheimer came in at 4.4%

Well they've both got the big slacks don't they? Big slacks mate Big heavy bottomed boys Just good slacks That'll get you in the top five That'll break down doors for you Here's a

new one It's not new one. Yeah. It's not new. It's not new. We did it last year. It's new for this episode. Yeah. The best cameo of the year, according to Collings, last year famous root rat Daredevil won the award

for his short appearances in the She-Hulk series. I remember that. And fair enough. But this year. Speaking of short appearances, Bradley Cooper, Dungeons and Dragons, am I right? Oh, he's in there. Antonio Banderas, Dial of Destiny.

Is that a cameo? Or is that just a guy who's in a movie for 20 minutes? He's in quite a lot of it, am I right? Oh, he's in there. Antonio Banderas, Dial of Destiny. Is that a cameo? Or is that just a guy who's in a movie for 20 minutes? He's in quite a lot of it, but I'll take it. All right. Our friend's Auntie Donna in the Dungeons and Dragons movie. The Australian release. Just the Australian release. Love it.

Well, probably Asia Pacific. I don't know. No, we don't know. We don't know. Kelsey Grammer in the Marbles. Yeah. Yeah, he's not really there, is he? Charles Martinet in Super Mario Brothers. So that's the original voice of Mario. Donald Glover in Across the marbles. Yeah. Yeah, he's not really there, is he? Charles Martinet in Super Mario Brothers.

So that's the original voice of Mario. Donald Glover in Across the Spider-Verse. That's fun. Gary Oldman in Oppenheimer. When he came in and went, Oppenheimer's a bitch. That's right. Jeff Goldblum in Asteroid City. That's a good one.

I haven't seen it. John Cena in Barbie. Forgot. YouTuber MatPat in Five Nights at Freddy's. He's a YouTuber, right? That's true, yeah. Or The Rock in Fast X. Well, that was a big surprise if they is a YouTuber, right? That's true, yeah. Or The Rock in Fast X. Well, that was a big surprise if they didn't reveal it beforehand.

That's true. And that's a movie upset and also a real-life upset. You know what I mean? That's a man crawling back. Yeah, yeah. Crawling home. Okay, now let's churn through these. Antonio Banderas, I think you're right.

I think that's not a – he's not waving from a ship for a moment. No. He's in there. It's not like Dan Aykroyd in Temple of Doom. That's true. Where he's like, hello, everybody. I'm Dan Aykroyd. I mean he gets more screen time than, say, Jonathan Rhys-Davies.

Sure. He's also in that movie. Yeah. Like Bradley Cooper, that's fun. Oh, you're just skipping over Auntie Dora. Oh, yeah. Okay, right. Not wide enough release is what you're saying.

That's what I'm saying. Look, I loved it. Yeah. And I love the story behind it. Oh, my God. checked out that episode uh if you haven't heard that their their story of going being sent to la for no reason no reason um but they're also again had i not known never would have picked it because they're doing incredible voice acting well they're and the problem of course is that they animated the because they're voices before they're they're

playing reanimated corpses in a graveyard. They're doing the voices. But they had to clearly, they weren't like, just wing it and we'll fix the mouths and posts. They're like, you have to exactly match that. So they couldn't just do characters or whatever. They should have put them in it, like just fully in it. Yeah, just have them standing around in the graveyard.

That would have been incredible. Bradley Cooper. We're not putting them because they should have given them more. I agree. So we're not going to vote for that. Yeah, that's right. Dogs, not Auntie Donna. Bradley Cooper, that's an upset.

Just Bradley Cooper in it for some reason. Yeah, he was the maestro this year or whatever. That's true, he was. And people are saying it's good and he put on a good fake nose or whatever happened. They are saying that. Yep. They're saying it's a good nose.

That's what they're saying. They are saying that. Kelsey Graham is barely in it's a good nose. That's what they're saying. They are saying that. Kelsey Graham is barely in it. I mean, it's a. I think three or four years ago, that would have been something I cared more about. But it was just, I think, was it spoiled for me? I don't remember. I think I've spoiled it for myself.

Charles Martinet. I don't care. I don't care for that movie. I don't care, but good on him. Good on him for getting a gig. Original voice of Mario. What is he in that movie? He voices like the pizza shop owner or something.

Oh, okay. That's great. Donald Glover in Across the Spider- owner or something. Oh, okay, that's great. Donald Glover in Across the Spider-Verse. So he's finally getting that. That was fun. I liked that one. Yep. Gary Oldman in Oppenheimer, good.

Not as good, I think, as the upsetting appearance of Casey Affleck. Oh, yeah. So were Casey Affleck not in there to just storm that scene and just be upsetting and for people to go ah upset in the movie, upset in real life true, two big upsets just so

big ups is what you're saying to Casey Affleck, that's what I'm saying, big ups to him Jeff Goldblum John Cena I forgot Matt Pat, don't care good on him The Rock

Fast X I'm gonna say Donald Glover I'm gonna say Bradley Cooper okay because like I still don't know the reason behind that yeah

does he love Dungeons and Dragons is he friends with the directors is do we do it do we do this did we make it happen did we imagine it into being maybe

I think the idea of putting Donald Glover in like aver as live action into an animated movie, that's fun for me. That is true, yeah. So Donald Glover won with 32%, followed by Auntie Donna at 15%, then Bradley Cooper at 14%, then John Cena 9.4%, and then MatPat 9.1%.

Love that for MatPat. Good on you, MatPat. Finally he's getting some recognition. Good on you, Matthew Pathew, which is your real name. That's right. Me and Tim have a thing in common. Yeah. We got a bunch of money stolen from media.

I think you mentioned that, yeah. Me and him, we're simpatico in that way. Yeah, that's right. We got ripped off by a big company one time. Could you maybe team up one day and find the guy responsible and beat him up? I know who it was. I don't know. I could tell you.

I just don't remember off the top of my head. But yeah, no, I know who it was. I don't know. I could tell you. I just don't remember the top of my head. No, I know who it was. If I ever see him, I'm going to slap him legit. That's the spirit. Do you think I'm joking, Mason? I will slap that guy. I don't think you're joking. The worst cameo of the year. But like an embarrassing slap. I'm not even going to hit him.

Just like a slap where he's ruffled. Then you stare at him because he won't do anything because he's a coward, and then you walk away. Worst cameo of the year, James? Here we go. Adam West in The Flash. Yeah.

Christopher Reeve and Helen Slater in The Flash. Yep. Gal Gadot in The Flash. I guess. George Clooney in The Flash. That's all right. George Reeves in The Flash. Yes.

Henry Cavill, in quote marks, in The Flash. Sort of, yeah. Jason Momoa, he's in The Flash. He is, yeah. Nick Cage in The Flash. Yep. And Teddy Sears, marks, in The Flash. Sort of, yeah. Jason Momoa, he's in The Flash. He is, yeah. Nick Cage in The Flash. Yep. And Teddy Sears maybe in The Flash. So that's a big win in a way.

Swept the board for the movie The Flash. For just ghoulish performances and cameos. Which is the worst though? For me it was Christopher Reeve. Yep. But I think for you it was probably George Reeves, right? Probably George Reeves. I mean, Teddy Sears.

At least Nick Cage is alive. Well, that's the thing. And he agreed to do it. Teddy Sears, is it even him? We don't know. We don't know who that was. Because at the time, they were like, no, it's just nobody of any importance. Like, ouch, all right.

Look, Jason Momoa, Henry Cowell, they can go. Clooney, good for him for being a good sport about that and probably being paid an astounding amount of money to get out of a car and just not do anything, just be in his regular clothes, didn't shave his beard, didn't do anything, looked annoyed, like barely acting. I love that. That's good.

George Reeves, yes, absolutely. Nick Cage, you're right. It's a good story where they were just like, yeah, they brought me in and I stood around for a bit. And they made a suit for him and everything. But then he's like, but then what went on screen is nothing. I didn't do that. I didn't do anything. So that's fascinating.

But out of sheer disrespect, I think George Reeves. And I'll say Christopher Reeves. A man who was typecast in that role and it led to his death and they're just like, he may have killed himself or he was murdered, we don't really know. And Christopher Reeves similarly. And not only that, like the Christopher Reeves thing, and I'm sure he's estate approved.

George Reeves might not have an estate. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Because he didn't have family, yeah. But the Christopher Reeves thing, just the way that like, why did you make it look like this? Yeah. That was what really upset me. Yeah, and the fact that like why did you make it look like this yeah that was what really upset yeah and the fact that they're not even doing that's nothing just standing there

yeah i think they'd be like let's go and help but of course they didn't have the time to make superman and supergirl yeah help so it looks like they did it in two weeks yeah which they probably did yeah uh so george looks like they just got an like an an iPhone app where you take a photo and then you just put- Oh, and you bring it to life? Yeah, and you bring it to life. It looked like that. George Reeves, 35% is the winner. Big winner.

Even in death. Yeah. Chris Reeve and Helen Slater. Helen Slater's still alive, so that's good. I hope she got money for that. Yeah, same. That's 30%. It's probably George Reeves, actually, isn't it?

Nick Cage, 13%. Henry Cavill, 5%. George Clooney, 3.5%. I don't even really. It's the back of him or something. Yeah, and we see him shirtless in one of those merry-go-round scenes. Oh, yeah, that was what it was. And he's all plasticky.

We see him because he couldn't get into the Shazam. I'm thinking of his cameo in Shazam. You see the back of him in Shazam because the city's walled off or something. Do you? Is that true? I don't know. Is that true? I don't know, man. Hang true? I don't know, man.

Hang on. I don't know, man. And Gal Gadot is, I mean, she also cameos in Shazam, doesn't she? Yes. She shows up at the end and she's like, and it goes, she's like, I can bring this guy back to life, but I won't bring anybody else back to life because I can't or because I won't.

I won't. Don't know. I don't know if that thing I just said is true. I can't tell, honestly. Does it matter? No. Never think about it again. I've never thought about it. That's my gift if that thing I just said is true. I can't tell, honestly. Does it matter? No. Never think about it again. I've never thought about it.

That's my gift to you, James, my New Year's gift. Never think about that ever again for as long as you live. Until we do the Shazam Fury of God's commentary, at which point you will think of nothing else. You'll spend the entire commentary, I'll tell you this much, guaranteed, you'll spend the entire commentary thinking about it and then a frame will happen and you'll go, is that the thing I remembered?

Don't know. Here's an award, James. What's the weirdest thing that happened? So this is a new award. It is. Okay, so here we go. Barbenheimer's combined success. G.I. Joe in Transformers Rise of the Beast.

Oh, yeah. Harry Potter reboot series announced. Yeah, that's dumb. Intentionally bad CGI in The Flash. Yeah. The Rock returns to Fast and Furious family. God, these are so many upsets. I know.

The Rock signs on for Safdie Brothers movie. Okay. The Madam Web trailer. Yeah, that was fun. Russell Crowe's little scarf in Kraven trailer. Yep. Or the Secret Invasion finale fight. God.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a weird year for weird things happening. I mean, Barbenheim is combined success. I love that. It is a phenomenal. That's good and great. I mean, Barbenheim is combined success. I love that. It is a phenomenal. I mean, I guess of a lot of the ones on here as well, that's a positive one. Yeah.

Like a lot of these other ones are just like, ugh. Yeah, G.I. Joe, that feels pretty desperate, again, especially. But it is undeniably weird that they're like, guess what, we're G.I. Joe. And you know because I have this little card that says G.I. Joe. I don't have anything else to prove. What if Snake Eyes was behind the roof? Sure, Snake Eyes there. And you don't have to else to prove. What if Snake Eyes was behind the... Sure, Snake Eyes is there. And you don't have to even cast him.

I mean, he has been cast. And he's doing something like not particularly Snake Eyes and he has to get into Snake Eyes mode. Goes into a ninja crouch or something. Yeah, exactly right. He's doing Kung Fu action. He begins to do Kung Fu action. Oh, that would be good.

Yeah. But he's just bloody... He's got the mask up and he's having a smoke. And he's like, what? And he throws the cigarette and he puts the mask down and he's just bloody he's bloody he's just he's got the mask up and he's having to smoke and he's like what and he throws it he throws the cigarette he puts the mask down he's like always ready for action he can't say yeah no that's true he can't yeah unless it's the uh henry golding one which can't say yeah uh what do you reckon james uh would you did uh harry you know what the harry potter thing is a weird thing to announce but not surprising considering all of the cast hate JK Rowling. Yeah, I kind of feel like we have to eliminate anything here

that is just we need to keep this train rolling. Oh, okay. So would you say that for The Rock, Fast and Furious? Yeah, I think so too, yeah. Now, you love a little scarf. Does that mean anything to you? It means nothing to me. Okay.

These days also it seems like a thing Russell Crowe would do. That's true. There's nothing that man would do. He was Greek in that movie. Yeah, he was absolutely Greek. He was Franco-Cotso Greek in that movie. He certainly was. So the secret invasion final fight.

Yeah. It did come out of nowhere. It did and it was bad and weird and I didn't like it. But I think I'm going to go with the Barbenheimer combined success. I think I am also, yes. Just a thing that happened. And it was kind of like good for them, figuring something out. It happened organically in a way, as far as we know.

That's true. Everybody was on board with it. Yep. It's good. So the winner is Intentionally Bad CGI and The Flash. Okay, great. Because they were like, no, it's supposed to look like this. And it's like, well, then if that's true, which it isn't, that's bad,

what you've done. The Madam Web trailer served 20%. Secret Invasion fight, 17%. G.I. Joe Rise of the Beast, 10%. Harry Potter, 8%. Now, listeners also mentioned, these are some bonuses that people put in. Seeing MODOK's bottom in Quantumania. Oh, yep.

One Piece live action being actually good. Oh, yeah. Moana live action remake announced. Specifically, the CGI baby and microwave scene in The Flash. Oh, the Dick Tracy special. Dick Tracyacy zooms in it's that one yeah it is that is the all right yeah okay what's what's the weirdest thing that happened look barbenheim is combined success they look i'm gonna let's turn i'm gonna turn my back on it yeah because they're both very good movies yeah sure good movies and enjoyable.

That's not enough. No, and people realise or maybe the directors realise what you want is you want a good movie that's got something to say and there it is. So you're right, it's the Dick Tracy special that Warren Beatty has to keep making every few years. To keep the rights. To retain the rights to Dick Tracy, a property no one wants. Yeah.

We did a video on it for Caravan of Garbage where we go through it. Did we? Yeah, we did Caravan of Garbage this year on Dick Tracy, a property no one wants. Yeah. Watch the – we did a video on it for Caravan of Garbage where we go through it. Did we? Yeah, we did Caravan of Garbage this year on Dick Tracy. Oh, the movie. Oh, okay, that's great. And we also talked about it when it happened. Oh, terrific.

I love that. That's great. Ooh, biggest disappointment of the year. Oh, wouldn't want to be any of these guys. Book of Boba Fett ran away with it last year. Previous winners include Batman v Superman, Kingsman 2 and the Game of Thrones season finale. Okay, here we go.

The CGI Flash cameos. Ugh, yeah. I mean, were we expecting anything good? No, I'm not, and the Game of Thrones season finale. Here we go. The CGI Flash cameos. I mean, were we expecting anything good? No, I'm not surprised. See, that's the thing. I think maybe as we go through these nominations, we're going to have to eliminate anybody where we're like, we didn't think this was going to be good. Yeah.

Disney Plus removing shows. Not surprising. El Muerto was cancelled. That's crazy to me. That is crazy, actually. They cancelled that thing. That would have been huge. It would have been huge.

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Look, Mason, it was my most anticipated movie of the year and you kept dogging on me, telling me that don't get my hopes up. I can't remember, so I guess I did. Maybe you were right. Maybe it wasn't great. But also, by heart of hearts, what was it going to be to me, really? That's true.

Also, I think, like, if we go through all of these and we go none of these were really disappointing we knew that we're all gonna be bad that's pretty bad for us isn't it uh the mcu's direction in general yeah no grant gustin in the flash so that's i mean that's tv's tv's the flash that's like that's bad for him but like why wouldn't you he's done he's done so much leg work literally oh yes indeed like you don't want to give him a little cameo. Like he's been marketing this character for years and doing a good job. Yeah.

But that's more on him. I don't care. Do you think at his peak Grant Gustin would have incredible runner's legs? Mm-hmm. But a withered upper body? Well, no, not even that probably. But do you think he's got incredible runner's legs or due to the weird way you have to run for like green screen flash running they've developed really

oddly oh you know so he runs like a horse with a broken foot maybe so it's just like odd muscles like you don't even know you have them and it's like why are those bulging out maybe he's got like his legs of dog legged they're like bending backwards maybe i don't know i feel like he runs normally but that's what i'm saying he looks like it but it's but it's green screen on whatever Legs of dog-legged. They're like bending backwards. Maybe they're bending backwards, maybe. I don't know. I feel like he runs normally. But that's what I'm saying. He looks like it, but it's that movie magic. They don't actually get him to run around the city. They just...

Good point. Yeah. Secret Invasion series in its entirety. Star Wars TV shows in their entirety. Oh, yeah. The Suicide Squad game reveal. Well, the reveal that what it was was disappointing. Sort of live-surfacing.

It's not out yet, so. Warner Brothers scrapping movies. Penny Worth, The Origins of Batman's Butler cancelled. Oh, Devo. Yeah, that is Devo, isn't it? We'll never know the real origin of Blue Tank Man. No, we do. He inhales a poison or something.

But it's not the Venom thing or it's a different thing? It's a different thing, I think, yeah. For me, I mean, the CGO cameo is no good. El Muerto, devastating, obviously. So Disney Plus are moving shows. They're all doing that. But I'm going to say it's the Warner Brothers scrapping movies. Absolutely, yeah.

Because, again, it's not surprising that they're doing it. But just dogs, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just absolute dogs. Absolute dogs. Throwing things in the bin that they had no – had no – put no effort into whatsoever. They didn't create anything. They just looked at a line sheet and went –

Not that one. Not that one. Get rid of that. I don't like the sound of that. Just people with no taste or no anything. Yeah. And again – And sure, maybe that were bad.

Yeah. But like – well, you released a bunch of bad stuff. Yeah. And the idea as well that they went, Brendan Fraser, he's going to maybe win an Oscar, but let's scrap the bad stuff. Yeah. And the idea as well that they went, Brendan Fraser, he's going to maybe win an Oscar, but let's scrap the other movies. Yeah. Michael Keaton was in it. Yeah, yeah, anyway.

Anyway. Let's talk about Batgirl. Yes. Oh, here we go. Big time, James. This is a big time. Well, hang on. We've got to do the results.

Oh, yeah. Warner Brothers scrapping movies won with 20%, followed by Secret Invasion at 19%, then the MCU direction in general, 13.5%. Then El Muerto cancelled 12%. Then Dial of Destiny, 7%. Listeners also mentioned Dune 2 delay, Ant-Man 3 specifically. Everything Warner Brothers.

No D in Magic Mike 3. I didn't know that. If I'd have known that, that's a different story. That's right. No Snake Eyes review. It's coming. First episode of When We're Back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's next, Mason? James, here's a big one. Oh, my God, I love it. It's my different story. That's right. No Snake Eyes review. It's coming. First episode of When We're Back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's next, Mason? James, here's a big one. Oh, my God, I love it. It's my favorite award. A Weekly Planet exclusive award, as far as we know. I'm looking at this. I don't even know. The winner of the Game of the Year award.

This award is loosely described as the worst or most outrageous attempt to set up a sequel that might never happen, usually in the final scene of post-credits. That's a good, finally somebody's nailed it down, and it's Rob Collings. And it's also, I would sequel that might never happen, usually in the final scene of post-credits. That's a good, finally somebody's nailed it down, and it's Rob Collings. And it's also, I would say might never happen, I would say won't ever happen. It was named after a famous attempt at this Dracula Untold 2014.

Nearly 10 years. Yeah, that's right. Last year, Morbius won in a tight contest with Black Adam. Other previous winners include Artemis Fowl, The Matrix 4, and Tom Cruise's The Mummy. Just big time news. And again, this is all vibes. I feel like The Matrix 4, and Tom Cruise's The Mummy. Just big time news. And again, this is all vibes. I feel like The Matrix 4 probably won because we just saw it.

Yeah, almost certainly, yeah. Because I don't know if that's the only one that did. And again, like, there are various factors involved in this. If we already know a sequel's coming, sometimes it doesn't count. Like, you know, for years, you know, something like the MCU would never win because we know there's another one in production, the next thing. But I feel like it's different now because there'll be like Eternals Harry Styles and it's like, is that ever going to happen?

Blade. Sometimes it helps if there's like a real unearned confidence, like if the movie is absolute garbage but then they're like, what do you think of this in the sequel? Sometimes Hitler shows up. Sometimes Hitler does show up. That's a real one that happened in The King's Man. Okay, here's a few, James.

Here's the nominations. The Council of Kangs in Quantumania. What's interesting about that one as well is, I guess, that it's real-world things affecting it and also people not connecting with the character. That's twofold. That's a twofer. Dr. Savannah and Mr. Mind meet again in Shazam Fury of the Gods.

I forgot that happened. Is that true? That does happen, yeah. Okay. Dr. Savannah is still in his prison or what have you, and I think maybe he's got a big beard. Did they film that when they filmed the first movie and just put it back in this?

No, I think this is new. Great. And Mr. Mind's like, soon, and Savannah's like, come on. Right. So that's a bit of a fun, that's a fun gag. I don't think they ever intended. To get to that? No.

I mean, obviously not. Well, they can't. They can't. The Flash and George Clooney's Batman. Now, I know that this is ending and that was supposed to reboot and whatever, but they weren't ever seriously going to do anything with that. Absolutely not. It was just supposed to be a joke, right?

There's no way there is. Like, again, Clooney said quite recently, there's not enough drugs in the world to get me to be Batman again. And he wouldn't have been all for it and then changed his mind after the negative reaction to the Flash. He's always thought that. There's no way he would do another one. He might also be out of it by the time the next post-credits rolls around

with Aquaman. Yeah. Like he might have already fixed it again. I think probably. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't, I don't think that we'll never know.

No, but there's no way that that's a serious attempt to be like, come on guys, keep watching these movies and we'll get Clooney Batman back. There's no way. It's no one. Uh, GI Joe.

It's like the hell of the duck ending of guardians. It's like, that's not really supposed to be. No, that's true. Yeah. GI Joe and transformers rise of the beast. See that.

I feel like they will attempt that. Yep. But what a dread true, yeah. G.I. Joe in Transformers Rise of the Beast. See, that I feel like they will attempt that. Yep. But what a dreadful display. Absolutely awful. Yeah. Nothing, just nothing. Oppenheimer's JFK name drop. All for the sequel. Yeah, that's a fun that feels like that does feel like Christopher Nolan

he's doing a fun little joke. Okay. Like, you know how all the post-credits in the Marvel movies and he went, oh, what if I say JFK? He's notoriously he's a notorious prankster, we know that. He's a prankster he's the original prankster little joke. Okay. Like, you know, how all the post-credits in the Marvel movies, and he went, oh, what if I say J.R.R. Cannon? He is notoriously, is he a notorious prankster? He's a prankster. He's the original prankster, perhaps. Yeah. Rebel Moon Part 1 immediately setting up another Snyder Cut.

Yeah. That's bold. That is very, I mean, that is happening. Yeah, but I mean, but also due to the very nebulous rules of the Games On Award, I think that's a contender. Sure, let's put it in there. Shazam meets Peacemaker's team in Fury of the Gods. That didn't make any sense.

No. Yep. Ted Kord in Blue Beetle post-credits. That might come back. I think there's a good chance we will because he's staying, the current Blue Beetle, and I think we could see Ted Kord. But he might just be there. So I wouldn't rule that out.

Yeah, two more. The Last Voyage of the Demeter sequel. sequel oh when it's like dracula's coming yeah yeah well he's there yeah uh or the entire dceu i think yes it's that one because it's four different movies doing it it's true yeah um i guess technically not aquaman 2 because it ends with a man eating a bug yep but if you look at the other ones, they're all doing get ready for this. That's true. Shazam. I think individually there's not enough there

to be like, this is what's coming. But if you look at them attempting that four different times in a universe that is dead, that's pretty funny. What do you think? I mean, I genuinely like the idea of Ted Kord in the post-credits. Sure. I think that's fun.

G.I. Joe is a strong contender for me, again. Absolutely nothing. Yeah. Maybe it is that one because it's just, again, I don't doubt that they're going to try it at some point. Yeah, yeah. But atrocious. Yeah.

Rebel Moon Part 1 immediately setting up another Snyder Cut. Incredible. Just the idea of before it's even out, and it got a limited cinema release, but even before that, Snyder went, you know, I've got a better version. There's a real one with boobs. And this one's actually bad in comparison. Why would you do that? But it is coming out.

Yeah. I'm going to go with it. But it was also already coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I feel like if you left this a year, they wouldn't be like, yeah, do that version. That's going to go. But it was also already coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I feel like if you left this a year, they wouldn't be like, yeah, do that version. That's true, yeah. Look, it's bad, and I don't want to fall to recency bias.

So, yeah, it's bad. But, again, we are getting a sequel done. It's ready to go. And I don't – yeah, that one's too bad. I'm going to go with G.I. Joe and Transformers Rise of the Beast just because of the – it's just the empty warehouse. Yeah. Just the empty warehouse and a business card.

You know that door slid back on the day of filming and it was just a green screen and they went, what do we put in here? Is it snake eyes? And then it's just like, it's just like a couple of blocks and a plane or whatever. I don't remember what was there. I think if they had have left it at just the card, that would have been less of a disappointment because then it's the,

what you imagine that like, what are they going to bring in? But then they opened it and they're like, yeah. And they're like, get ready. And they open up to like an empty warehouse. Astounding. Just bold, very bold to be like, we don't, the G.I. Joe name, it stands on its own so hard.

We don't even need to show anything. Yeah. Yeah. And there'd be people who were like, I don't know what G.I. Joe is. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Is that, is that a Transformers thing? I don't even need to show anything yeah yeah and there'd be people who were like i don't know what gi joe is yeah exactly okay is that is that a transformers thing i don't know i think we're also overlooking the fact that they had a stadium of a hundred thousand kings i think we all that's needs to be factored in right yeah but at the time even though like marvel's box office is declining they were still moving forward i think they were like yeah this is gonna be this is gonna like it's only it's only real world events yeah i think if if

jonathan magus had already been fired yeah and they knew that like they everything had come out they he'd already been fired and they were just putting out this movie to because they'd made it and it was too late to edit everything out yeah i think then to be like well look what's coming up next that would be a that would be a true gamers on all-timer. And they pretty much killed it in Loki as well. Yeah. But I think, yeah, I'm going to go with G.I. Joe. Me too.

So it's the entire DCU, 30%, followed by the Council of Kangs, 29.6%, followed by G.I. Joe. There we go. And the Rise of Beasts, 13%, followed by The Flash and Clooney's Batman, 9%, and Oppenheimer's JFK name drop in 7%. I forgot that. Wasn't there like, I'm going to see a young senator from whatever? Yeah, that's right.

Was that the same? Probably from Boston. Adolf Hitler. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, here we go. Best animated movies. That's right.

Last year, James voted for TMNT, Rise of the Ninja Turtles, while Mayso and the listeners chose Chippendale. Was that Slim Pickings that year? It must have been. It must have been. Rise of the Ninja Turtles, while Mayso and the listeners chose Chippendale. Was that Slim Pickings that year? It must have been. Rise of the Ninja Turtles. Which one was that? It wasn't even out. No, that was the Netflix one.

I really liked that one. It was a continuation of the Netflix animated 2D animated series. Oh, I didn't see it. Yep, I'll stand by that. Oh, big lineup this year because there's big, big money in the animated stuff. The Boy and the Heron. Apparently good. I haven't seen it.

Chicken Run, Dawn of the Nugget. Never seen any of them. Yep. Elemental. Fine. Nimona. Haven't seen it. Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse.

Incredible, it's that one. Suzume. What the hell's that? I don't know. The Super Mario Brothers movie. No. Bad. TMNT Mutant Mayhem. Yeah, good.

Wish or Other. It's not Wish. No. Spiderverse. And I know that I acknowledge that there are some here that I haven't seen that could be better. Sure. But I haven't seen them.

Yeah, I haven't seen The Boy and the Heron yet. Or Suzume was another anime situation. And as I understand it, The Boy and the Heron is, the Western voice acting is very good. Pattinson is some sort of horrible bird creature and he's really going for it. Maybe he's the heron. Maybe he's the boy and the her really going for it. Maybe he's the heron. Maybe he's the boy and the heron.

Maybe he's the boy and the heron. But I'm going to go with TMNT Mutant Mayhem. Over Spider-Verse. Over Spider-Verse, yep. What? Yeah, because it's a new thing. It feels fresh and new. It's absolutely not a new thing.

It's not a new thing. It's the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yeah. But I just like the lineup. I like the kids doing their improv. Yep, okay. That was a bit of fun. I guess it's not like Spider-Verse is half a movie

and they crunched everybody. They did crunch everybody. But I'm still going to pick it. Yeah, okay. And I've just remembered like the kind of the Renaissance era vulture. Like all the designs are great. Maybe I need to give it a rewatch. But I like the – I just like those – they let the kids do their thing

and I thought that was fun and it felt like fresh and interesting. Yep. Fresh and interesting for a property that's been around for a very, very, very long time. A million years. Yeah, so I'm going to go with TMNT. Well, you're wrong because Across the Spider-Verse won with 76%. I was wrong.

Followed by Mutant Mayhem, 10%. I was sort of right. The Boy and the Heron, 6%. Nimona, 2.2%. And then Super Mario Brothers 1.6% who's picking that our wonderful valued listeners

and I'm on their side I'm not on your side okay Best Horror Big Horror Big Year for Horror yeah it's probably a big year

for horror every year but we they don't push through the mainstream I didn't see Terrifier 2 if that came out this year I didn't see that either yeah

these nominations cover horror movies reviewed on the podcast this year, so there'll be other stuff, of course, that we didn't get to. Last year's winners voted by us with a black phone and nope. Yep. That's a good one. Cocaine Bear. Yep.

Evil Dead Rise. Yep. Knock at the Cabin. Yep. Saw X. The Delightful Michelle Brazier came in for Knock at the Cabin, yeah. Scream 6. Yep. Five Nights at Freddy's. Yep. No One Will Save You. Yep. The Last Voyage of the Demeter or Dracula on a Boat. Yep.

Or Australia's Own Talk to Me. For me, it's Talk to Me or Evil Dead Rise. All right. Well, you've got to pick one. Which might have, is there crossover people who are in both of those? I might be thinking of something else. Uh-huh. I know there's Australians in some or one of those.

There's Australians in both of them, I believe. I mean, I wasn't, Talk to Me I'd Heard was very good. Uh-huh. And it is very good. Yep. Evil Dead Rise, I was like, whatever, we'll see. And I fucking had a blast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I thought it was terrific. So, ooh, what do you think, though? Look, I like Cocaine Bear. What? To me, you didn't dislike it. It was whatever. I'm just going through the list, guys. It should have gone more bigger and weirder, and it wasn't.

Good Alden Ehrenreich in that as well. Yeah, he's good. One of the last performances of? The Bear? No. Gary Sinise? No. Gary Oldman?

No. He's in Goodfellas. Gary Coleman? No. Goodfellas? Mr. Goodfellas? Mr. Goodfellas. Ray Liotta.

Ray Liotta, thank you. Did you know that, or were you? I knew who it was, but I couldn't say. Right. So no, I guess I didn't. Evil Deadellas? Mr. Goodfellas. Ray Liotta. Ray Liotta, thank you. Did you know that or were you? I knew who it was but I couldn't say. So no, I guess I didn't. Evil Dead Rise was very good. Yep, and it was just in a little room mostly. That is true. And there was some real body horror stuff and that was like,

that's upsetting. I don't know if I was expecting Knock at the Cabin to be good and it was good. I liked Knock at the Cabin a lot, yeah. Go Sorks. Go Sorks. I like Sorks. I thought it was fine if I recall. Yeah, I thought it was better than a lot of the other ones. Sure, okay, Sorks. Go, Sorks. I like Sorks. I thought it was fine, if I recall.

Yeah, I thought it was better than a lot of the other ones. Sure, okay, yeah, yeah. Scream 6. Yeah, it was good. I liked it. Pretty fine. Five Nights at Freddy's I thought was fine. I didn't think it was great.

No One Will Save You was a delightful concept. I liked that. It was good. I liked Voyage of the Demeter. I did. I probably should have done a bit better. This is a strong. And Talk to Me.

Yeah, and Talk to Me. This is a strong line. I think I will give it a Talk to Me. Yeah, I. Especially have done a bit better. This is a strong. And talk to me. Yeah, and talk to me. This is a strong line. I think I will give it a talk to me. Yeah, I. Especially as a directorial debut. I liked, I don't always like this, but I liked how mean and nasty Evil Dead Rise was. Oh, my God, it was so mean.

Yeah, mean and nasty and just a good, good. Just the blood. Someone going in a wood chipper. Bruce Campbell's in it, sort of. Put a lady gets the chainsaw at the end. Yeah. I love, and I haven't even seen them all. Put a lady against the chainsaw at the end. Yeah. I love, and I haven't even seen them all, I love the world of The Evil Dead as well.

Yeah, maybe that's me. And all the lore that I enjoy. I mean, talk to me, good result. Yeah. I'm so happy that an Australian movie got out there. Even if it's from Adelaide. Even if it's from Adelaide, God. Yeah. Wow.

It felt really authentic in terms of characters as well. Yeah. And teenagers and whatever. And just like too late at night in Australian suburbia and it's got that weird empty vibe to it. You had a flickering bus stop. Yeah, exactly. And it's just like, I don't like this. I mean, look, very good, but I'm going to go with Evil Dead Rise.

I'm going to go with Talk to Me. Okay. Talk to the Hand. Talk to Me for 30%. Yep. Evil Dead Rise, 14%. Cocaine Bear, 9. Talk to me for 30%. If it had risen 14%. Cocaine Bear, 9.4%. Dracula on a Boat, 9.1%.

Scream 6, 8.5%. I think I forgot that even came out this year. I think if that had come out in like October, that probably would have done better. And no one will save you 8.4%, which is a good little streaming situation. Oh, James, this used to be our bread and butter. Oh, my God.

Not now, Mason. Not in the drought that we're in. Is that right? Am I right? Well, maybe Superman Legacy is going to swoop in there. I hope so. Oh, my God. Not now, Mason. Not in the drought that we're in. Is that right? Am I right? Well, maybe Superman Legacy is going to swoop in there and treat us all. The best comic book movie last year, everybody, you and me and all the listeners all said it was The Batman. Yes, it was.

You're saluting that? Yep. But this year, could it be Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania? Technically, it could be anything. It's on the list. It could be. If those pranksters earlier who tricked one of our awards, if they get in on this and make it Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania,

it could be. But otherwise, it could not be. Yeah. Aquaman 2, The Lost Kingdom. Yep. Blue Beetle. Yep. The Flash.

No. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3. Yes. The Marvels. Yep. Shazam Fury, The Gods. Yep. Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse.

Yep. TMNT Mutant Mayhem. Yep. Look. I know what I'm going to pick. Is it Spider-Man? I know. It's Guardians.

It's Guardians. It's Guardians for me also. It's Guardians because I think I felt more in Guardians than I did Spider-Verse. Sure, sure. It's also the end of something and it capped off really well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The characters are really strong. And the songs made you feel things.

They tricked you with the songs. The songs were, I songs made you feel things. They tricked you with the songs. The songs were, I didn't love the songs. They tricked you with the songs. They did trick you. And you were like, oh, I'm doing a big cry because you're so good there. No, that's not what happened. But I'm so easily tricked. I am easily tricked, but we talked about it.

I thought the soundtrack was like the weakest of the soundtracks they've done. But I'd had that song that goes, ooh. And that's a great song. It's unbelievably a great song. Space Hog. But, yeah, and it was easily the best Marvel movie of the year. Spider-Verse is great, but again, half a movie, and they crunched everybody.

And, yeah, and then it would be TMNT and then whatever else below that. But, no, Guardians 3, I really loved it. And I thought it would be sadder than what it was, and it wasn't. It was kind of bittersweet that it ended, but he didn't kill everybody or anything like that. And everybody got a nice ending. We were all expecting, you know, Rocket was going to die, Drax was going to die, or, you know.

Yeah, and again, they beat that guy up at the end. They beat him up so bad, and he deserved it. And they all got a kick in. There's the moment as well where he's monologuing at Peter Quill and he's just like, I can't with this. Like every day it's one of you guys and I'm just, and then they just start killing everybody in the room. Yeah, nice.

It's great. It's just a really good movie. Satisfying. Yeah. Across the Spider-Verse, though, won at 57%. I guess people don't mind getting a crunch, do they? They don't mind that, I guess. That's right, I guess they love that.

Because I shake the hands of the men who made them do a big crunch please more in the future thank you guardians 336 mayhem 4 the marvels 1.3 the flash and blue beetle at 0.5 who's voting for the flash on these the people our wonderful listeners who have opinions and they're valid opinions they do they're not award-winning opinions, certainly. No. Best video game adaptation thing. Last year I gave it to Cyberpunk Edgerunners. I stand by that.

I don't know what that is. And James and listeners voted for Sonic the Hedgehog 2. Yeah. Now, how do we feel about this? Castlevania Nocturne. People love that animated Castlevania, so it's probably up there. I've only watched the first season, so I don't know. Five Nights at Freddy's.

Yep. Gran Turismo sort of. Oh, yeah. That's a true story about a kid who was good at video games and he became a – I saw it in D-Box. Oh, did you really? Yeah, man.

Wow. The Last of Us. Yeah, it's that. The Super Mario Brothers movie. Obviously not. Or Twisted Metal. No, I haven't seen it and no. Twisted Metal is fun.

I've heard it's fun but it's not better than The Last of Us. No, it's not. Yeah.'s not. Yeah. Absolutely not. Yeah, I mean, just for the episode with bloody… Ron… Swanson. Swanson, yeah, who has a real name.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that episode alone… Well, it's his fault that we don't know his real name. I feel like they did rush that ending. Offerman. Nick Offerman. Ron Offerman. And it had the guy from The White Lotus, the Australian guy or whatever,

who also has a name. But, yeah, each episode was really from The White Lotus, the Australian guy or whatever, who also has a name. But, yeah, each episode was really, and I think the stuff that, compelling or whatever, and each episode, everything that they changed was for the better and worked for the show. Like they changed the spores to like you had to get bitten and the way that all the zombies communicated with each other. It was terrifying. They had to change the spores so people didn't have to wear masks all the time.

Oh, that's true. Yeah. Performances were great. The two leads were really, really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It took everything that was good about the game and made it better, again, for the series. And I think, I don't know this, but I think-

Not everybody loved it, of course, because it made too many changes. No, I don't even think it made too many changes. But not only that, I think- No, that's what they thought. Yeah, sure. But I feel like with season two, I didn't love that second game because they took the story and they dragged it out over 40 hours. And the first game is like 13 hours or whatever.

Yeah, right. So I feel like they could easily fix that. I like the story and I like the characters, but I didn't like the length in which it told it. So I'm hoping that will be rectified in season two. But anyway, I think they're going to do two and three. I think they're going to split that second season up. But I will say I think the cast in Twisted Metal is very good.

Yeah, and also wasn't it supposed to be bad and then it wasn't? Yeah, it was fun. And everybody's talking about it. Nobody's talking about it. Everybody's talking about it. Nobody's talking about it. I mean, I will say, you know, to me it was just regular metal. Sure, okay.

On account of how twisted I am. Yeah, sure. I mean, you can't. you know, to me it was just regular metal. Sure, okay. On account of how twisted I am. Yeah, sure. I mean, you can't. It's not their fault, though, is it? That's personal bias. Yeah, it is, isn't it? Yeah. To me it's just normal, untwisted metal.

Yeah. The Last of Us won at 72%, followed by the Super Mario Brothers, 13%. Then Castlevania, 5%. Five Nights at Freddy's, 4%. Gran Turismo, 3%. Wow, no percent for twisted metal. There you go. Well, got you.

Because nobody watched it. Nobody watched it. Best video game. Yep. Best video game. Yep. Best video game nominated by listeners. Now, let me tell you this. I didn't play any of these. I played two and ten minutes of these games.

Okay. Last year's listener vote went to God of War Ragnarok. But here are the nominees. Okay. Alan Wake 2. I'm going to pick my winner based on vibes. Okay. Alan Wake 2.

Baldur's Gate 3. People love those. Marvel's Spider-Man 2. Yep. Resident Evil 4 Remake. Mm-hmm. Star Wars Jedi Survivor. Yep. Super Gate 3. People love those. Marvel's Spider-Man 2. Yep. Resident Evil 4 Remake. Star Wars Jedi Survivor. Yep. Super Mario Brothers Wonder.

Yep. Zelda Tears of the Kingdom. So you would have played Star Wars Jedi Survivor and Super Mario Brothers Wonder. Yeah, loved it. Thought it was really, really good. Super Mario Wonder I got for my son for Christmas and I haven't played it yet, so I cannot talk about it. I will not talk.

And Spider-Man 2 I played for 10 minutes and I'm like, yeah, I get it. And Resident Evil 4 Remake I completed and it's good. I liked it. Great, love it. But it's Jedi Survivor for me. I thought it took everything that was good about the first game and made it better and more interesting. Look, based on vibes alone, for me it's between Alan Wake 2

and Baldur's Gate 3. People love them. Two games I haven't played. And, you know, Baldur's Gate 3 is… It's blowing minds. It's expansive and apparently a lot. Like, you know, all the character choices really reverberate throughout the whole game and that's really interesting and et cetera.

But I'm going to go with Alan Wake too just because it seems really weird. Oh, the people who did – Alan Wake won. And that other one. Control. Control, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And Sam Lake's in it.

Sam Lake. I'm doing a dance. Who's Sam Lake? He's the face of Max Payne. Oh. He's the – Wait, the face of Max Payne? Yeah, so Sam Lake's in it. Sam Lake. I'm doing a dance. Who's Sam Lake? He's the face of Max Payne. Oh. Wait, the face of Max Payne? Yeah, so Sam Lake is that. Oh, he's like the original creator or whatever?

He's the creative director of Remedy, which is the Finnish company that makes these games. And he was part of the original Max Payne team, so he's the face. Oh, he looks just like him. He does that, like that face, that pained Max Payne face. But he's in this as multiple characters. Cool.

I find him delightful. Okay. I think he's a delightful man. Well, I didn't know that. Again, Jedi Survivor because it was good. And I like Control, so there you go. Yeah, you would. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So Spider-Man 2, 1 at 30. Also, every Remedy does that thing where every title page goes boom. And I love that. You like that? Doom. Spider-Man 2, percent boulders gate 3 23 percent zelda 17 percent jedi survivor 12 percent alan wake 5 percent we didn't play all the games this year so again i didn't play any no idea yeah uh best streaming service this year

um collins note is which one was the best value this year i guess last year disney plus one with 49 of the vote i would say not this year no I guess? Last year, Disney Plus won with 49% of the vote. I would say not this year. No. Apple TV, Amazon Prime, Disney Plus, Netflix, HBO Max, Hulu, Paramount Plus, Peacock, Stan, Other. Including there, you could include Mubi and also Tubi. Or Shudder.

Or YouTube. Yes. You spent a lot of time on YouTube this year? I love YouTube. It's good. I would say the thing I watched the most this year was definitely YouTube. Yeah, it was absolutely YouTube, yeah. But if I had to pick from here, I would say Apple because most of the shows they make are good and it's not filled with

absolute dreck. Yeah, see, again, that's the one. There's actually a... God, I've got to get Apple TV. I'll get it this week and I'll report back because there's a show on there that has apparently been going for a couple of years. Slow Horses? Slow Horses. Yeah. How did you know I was going to say that? Because the horses are so slow and that's why it's taken so long. That's interesting. It's got Gary Oldman. It's got Gary Oldman and he's sort of the head of an MI5 section that is full of losers.

Have you watched this? No, I haven't. Okay, but how did you know I was going to say it though? Because it's the one that people like at the moment. Oh, is it? And I know you better than I know anybody, Mason. That's true. And I don't like it.

Yeah, I know. It's bad. And they're all like people who've been in some incident or they messed up badly but they can't fire them. So it's just like they've corralled them all in this thing. So, you know, in the expectation they'll all quit out of boredom or frustration or whatever. But then they still got to say.

They got to do their missions. They got to do their missions. So that looks cool. I mean, if you look at like what Apple have done, like Monarch is running at the moment, which I think, I like the flashbacks more than the present day stuff. What's that space one is called is really good. Space.

Space dudes. Space dudes, whatever. Space dudes, but it's artful. Yeah, that's right. There was a Michael J. Fox documentary that was here. That was up this year that was really good. Michael J. Fox documentary? Yeah, exactly.

Wow. What else did they have? There was Yellow Jackets. Is that on there? Yeah. Okay. Oh, no, there's stuff that J. Fox Dumentary. Yeah, exactly. Wow. What else did they have? There was Yellow Jackets. Is that on there? Yeah, okay. Oh, no, there's stuff that you can just rent on there. Yeah, yeah. Yes, as well, yeah.

Bearing in mind Netflix produced Rebel Moon Part 1, A Child on Fire. Yeah, well, we'll see what happens with Part 2 if it can maintain the quality. Of a bad movie. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Otherwise, very good. But people should check out Tubi.

I liked Bad Sisters. It's a free streaming service that is ad-supported. Did Mythic Quest come back this year? I can't remember. But it's just good, man. Just good. And every time I go on there, I'm like, oh, good, there's a good thing on here to watch.

But look, given that I don't have Apple TV, I'm going to go with YouTube. Fair enough. And it is YouTube. I'm also going to go with YouTube. All right, all right. So Disney+, 18.3%. Amazon Prime, 18%. Apple TV,

17%. HBO Max, 14%. We don't have that here. Netflix, 12%. We have Bonge. We have Australia's Bonge. Favorite Caravan of Garbage episode? Last year the listeners voted for Batman Begins, Wink, actually the Twilight

Saga, because we got them, as their favorite series of episodes. But this time around, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Indiana Jones, The Monsterverse, Hunger Games, the Dick Tracy Rocketeer Phantom Green Hornet Universe. You know it when you see it. You sure do. Robocops, Michael Bay's TMNT movies, Masters of the Universe.

Did we cover that? Oh, we did, didn't we? Yeah, we did. Yeah, I love that for us. Mission Impossible series. Fast and Furious 4 to 7. Yep. Transformers the movie.

Uh-huh. The Flash Supergirl Batman Returns. You know it when you say it. Yep. Batman Forever. No, that was the tie-in to The Flash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. Yep. The Star Wars Rebels finale. Oh, yeah. Pixels, The Wizard and Super Mario Brothers Dungeons and Dragons The Shrek movies or Zack Snyder's Justice League For me

Yes It's the Mission Impossible series Yeah Because they're always fun to revisit Yeah, true But also they're good They are good, it's true actually So maybe in terms of like varying quality

Yep You know, I didn't mind going through the Hunger Games series again. I was like, this is interesting. I feel I flagged in the middle of those. Okay, yeah. I'm just like, oh. Well, those movies flagged in the middle of those. Yeah, that's true, yeah.

Fast and Furious 4 to 7 was, the Shrek movies were fun. Shrek movies were fun. I'm going to go with Fast and Furious 4 to 7. All right. I had a fun revisit of those, I think. You know what? I'm going to go with the Dick Tracy Rocketeer, the Phantom Greenwater. Because they were a. Of wildly varying quality. What a weird bunch 7. All right. I had a fun revisit of those, I think. You know what? I'm going to go with the Dick Tracy Rocketeer, the Phantom Greenwater.

Because they were a- Of wildly varied- What a weird bunch. Yeah, right? Oh, and that won 22%, followed by the Shrek movie, 16%, then Mission Impossible, 9.8, then Indiana Jones, 9.6, then The Hunger Games, 7.3, and then the MonsterVerse, 7.3. Oh, Indiana Jones.

You know what? Indiana Jones. That was fun to revisit those. Yeah. Now, let me ask you this. Do those votes reflect the number of people who actually watch those videos? Probably, actually. You think so?

Let me see. Do a lot of people watch those Dick Tracy ones? Oh, Dick Tracy, no, no, no, no, no. No. Let me check, actually. How did Shrek do? Shrek would have done well. The original Shrek is about $430,000, and the next one's about $400,000.

It's diminishing returns. Shrek 3 is $343,000, and then Shrek 4 is 316,000. Wow. So, yeah, that's- Get on on Shrek heads. Yeah. Get in there. Pump those numbers up.

Yeah, who knows what's going on with Shrek? Yeah, that's right. Anyway, Shrek's coming back or something. What's next? Best series ever, nominated by the listeners. Ooh. These top contenders have been chosen by listeners from a longer list. Last year's winner was Andor.

Andor! Here we go. Ahsoka, Gen V, the boy spin-off, Barry season four, The Bear season two, The Fall of the House of Usher. Who likes that? Oh, yeah. The Last of Us. Yep.

Loki season two. Yep. Poker Face. Oh, yeah. Scott Pilgrim takes off. Haven't seen it yet. Star Trek Strange New World season two. I did watch that.

Succession season four. Yep. Ted Lasso season three. Good TV. Star Trek Strange New World Season 2. I did watch that. Succession Season 4. Yep. Ted Lasso Season 3. Good TV. Good TV this year. What a good TV. For me, it's between The Bear Season 2. Yep.

And probably Poker Face. For me, it's between that and also The Last of Us. Yeah, right. Yeah, because I liked Gen V, but I didn't love it. Ahsoka was whatever. Yeah. House of Us, I quite liked. The Bear Season 2 didn't love it. Ahsoka was whatever. Yeah. Hanzobashi I quite liked. The Bear Season 2, every episode great, Poker Face new.

You know what I mean? Like, the Bear Season 2 has the episode where Cousin goes to work at the fancy restaurant and he learns the value of, like, the beautiful service to people and making them happy. There's the one with Will Poulter for some reason. That's right, where one of the chefs goes to Europe and they have a fun time. Livia Coleman's in an episode. That's true.

That's the fancy one. There's the horrific Thanksgiving episode. Yes. The upsetting one. They get that bear out of the kitchen for a time, but it gets back in. It gets back in the kitchen. Cousin, what are you doing? You let it back in the kitchen.

You looked hungry, cousin. You know? Yeah. But Poker You looked hungry, cousin. You know? Yeah. But Poker Face was delightful. It was really. I really enjoyed Poker Face. And you know what? I am going to say, I loved it.

Yeah. I thought, look, I loved Last of Us, but it was harrowing. It was a harrowing time. And like to some degree, Poker Face was also like there were murders. There was a murder. And it was usually a person you're like, oh, I like this person. And then Columbo style knocked off. Or I like this person.

Oh, they're a bad person. Yeah, that's exactly right. But like great ensemble, just great guest stars every time. Benjamin Bratt was in there. Oh, yeah. Horrible, horrible guy. Adrian Brody. Adrian Brody was in there.

I mean, and the lead as well. She's amazing. Natasha Lyon. That's her name. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon. Lyon the lead as well. She's amazing. Natasha Lyon. That's her name. Lyon. Lyon. Saying that. Yeah, great.

I just loved her, just her freewheeling spirit driving across America. I mean, she's on the run. And I think she did that other show this year again. Reverse Time Netflix. Reverse Time Netflix. I'm in somebody else's body back in time. I'm in my mom's body or whatever. Don't know.

Didn't watch it. Russian Doll. Like the first season. Yeah. Yeah. But The Last of Us won with 20% followed by The Bear 14% followed by Loki

12.1% followed by Succession Succession was really good 12% and Scott Pilgrim 8% there you go gotta watch Scott Pilgrim

gotta watch that Scott Pilgrim Mason worst series ever nominated by listeners there's gonna be a few things that I haven't seen in here definitely

sure this is also a new award somehow Ahsoka and Just Like That season 2 it's whatever Black Mirror season 6 The Continental the John Wick spin-off from the 70s a new award somehow. Ahsoka and Just Like That Season 2. It's whatever.

Black Mirror Season 6. The Continental, the John Wick spin-off from the 70s. The Frasier reboot. Probably. The Mandalorian Season 3. Pretty dire. Rick and Morty Season 7. Had some good episodes.

I've heard that. Secret Invasion. Yeah, bad. The Walking Dead Daryl Dixon. Don't know. And The Witcher Season 3. I also don't know, but people didn't like it. Secret Invasion.

Yeah, look, I liked The Continental. I liked Black Mirror Season 3. I also don't know, but people didn't like it. It's Secret Invasion. Yeah, look, I liked The Continental. I liked Black Mirror Season 6. I thought there was some, like every season, there's some strong episodes and some bad episodes. Ahsoka was bad and boring. Yeah, it was, wasn't it? Which is what Marvel and Disney have told me to say about it. They paid us. They sent us a check and they said, bad and boring,

I'd rather be watching anything else. Yeah, I heard there was some good Rick and Morty episodes. I didn't see it there. There are. I mean, there's more than a few in there. It's pretty solid, yeah. God. The whole episode was really good and you get to see Rick Prime,

like there's a show there on episode. Look, Ahsoka, I didn't like it. There's an atrocious one where they fight a bunch of numbers and stuff and it's like a – Like physically numbers? Yeah, I remember Ice-T was bunch of numbers and stuff and it's like a- Like physically numbers. Yeah, remember Ice-T was in and he comes back and it's like the numerators versus the letters. Oh, yeah, okay, right.

And it's just bad. And they're like, isn't this dumb? And it's like, yeah, and it's not good also. It's a bad episode. Ahsoka was about the level that I thought it would be. So that doesn't- Okay. Okay, so I think it's got to be Secret Invasion.

Yeah. Because what a letdown we weren't even going to talk about it until it was boring and then it was really bad yeah it was so boring nothing and then just dropped into bad just yeah the potential like when the marvel universe first kicked off if you were like there's going to be a secret invasion it's going to be espionage nick fury gets the spotlight that's going to be incredible what's what are they going to pull out of the pull out of the bag here for this the answer is not a bunch of assets yeah it's for a big fight at the end absolutely not yeah a bunch of a bunch of uh different arms just

different pngs they rotated in different ways secret invasion one with 65 followed by the mandalorian with eight percent wow that's a big that won by a lot. Yeah, it sure did. Mandalorian was not great either that last season. Pretty, pretty dull. Frasier Reboot I haven't seen at 6.2, Ahsoka 5.5, and The Witcher 4.9. Yeah, people really turned on The Witcher. We're approaching the pointy end, James. Worst movie ever.

Oh, my God. These top contenders have been chosen by listeners from along the list. Last year, James voted for Fantastic Beasts 3. Stand by that. Maiso voted for Thor 4. I definitely stand by that. And the listeners voted for for Fantastic Beasts 3. Stand by that. Maiso voted for Thor 4. I definitely stand by that. And the listeners voted for Morbius.

Yep. Here we go. The 65 Dinosaur's Moon. Oh, update. Aquaman 2 and Rebel Moon added just in case. Just in case, yeah. 65, the dinosaur movie with Adam Driver. I want to protect little girl from dinosaurs.

My son is dead. Blair. No, Blair. Blair. Blair's bad. Blair's bad? Blair. No, Blair. Blair. Blair's bad. Blair's bad? Blair's bad or surprise. Okay.

You know? I don't know. I just feel like he didn't emote enough of it. I'm on uninhabited world. Oh, there's dinosaurs. Blair. Blair. You see?

I don't have universal healthcare. Blair. That's great. That's terrific. What movie is that from? This movie. He doesn't have... That's why he's doing space missions. Oh, right. Okay. Because he's great. That's terrific. What movie is that from? This movie. That's why he's doing space missions.

Oh, right. Because he's from Planet No Universal Healthcare. He's probably in a movie set in America where he doesn't have Universal. I mean, yeah, just any movie set in America. I guess that's true. Ant-Man and the Lost Quantumania, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, The Exorcist, The Lever. Didn't see it. Apparently that's bad.

Fast X, The Flash. I think it's elevated by Jason Momoa. Absolutely. To take it out of just a movie. Ghosted. Oh god. The Meg 2 I didn't watch it. The Meg 2 The Trench. Yep. Rebel Moon Part 1 A Child of a Wire. No that's bad. Yeah. Shazam Fury The Gods. The Super Mario Brothers

movie. Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey. Didn't love it. Didn't see it. There you go. 65 Dinosaur movie. Yes. Was yes was so mid well yeah you're doing the hand motion for mid and cringe i thought it was i didn't think it was cringe okay yeah i thought like adam driver dinosaur planet something yeah well something's gonna comets coming to earth i feel like it had a good tension throughout most of it. I liked that it made dinosaurs scary again. When they were in it.

Yeah, when they were in it. But that's the thing. That's the key to it. Whereas, you know, in a Jurassic world, they're just props now and they're not fun or interesting. Well, they weren't fun or interesting in this either. Oh, wow. But Ghosted.

No, Ghosted was bad. Was that on Apple TV? Chris Evans, Anna Diamus, and she's a spy. I didn't see it. It's fucking terrible. Wow. That's out of left field for you. Not worse than The Flash?

Maybe. Yeah, right. Worse than Rebel. It's one of those movies that's like, this isn't real. Like, it felt fake. It felt like a fake movie. It felt like it was going to cut to somebody watching it in a better movie. Yeah, I didn't see it, but based on the trailers,

is it one of those ones where you watch a scene of it and you expect like the studio bell to go, and the director goes, cut. Yeah, exactly. It's Chris Evans, the actor, and Ana de Armas, the actor. And they're like, can't believe we have to do this one. Man, I've got a lot of, all my divorce papers have gone through and now I've got to pay for this, I've got to pay for two houses

or whatever. Exactly. And you're like, shut up, Anna Diamus. Yeah, shut up. Why do you have so many divorces? Yeah. Does she? I don't know.

But also, like, it went to streaming and who cares, right? Yeah. But again, Rebel Moon Part 1 went to streaming and it is bad. Yeah. To me, that is up there. That is in contention because, again, and we talked about it last week, the week before or whatever, recency bias, but this was supposed to be the one where we went, okay,

this is Zack Snyder doing whatever he wants with all the money he wants. Nobody's telling him no. He can make it as long as whatever he wants. He can make a show a series whatever and he and this is what we got and it's just not interesting or good or in any in any way i did really hate that and you know and i and i think it was also like i was really rude like i like him as a person also he seems fun and nice and people who know him and work with him say he's great and so i'm like then, then cool. Like you said, it was just his opportunity to do.

Well, I guess it's not even his opportunity, but the Snyder fandom, this was their chance to prove all the haters wrong. To say like, see? Yeah, see, this is what. And I was very willing to go, yeah, okay. Yeah. I would love to have, you know've liked i like watchman and 300 is pretty good and etc but i wanted to be like this is him in his prime this is what he's been

building to i want it to be good yeah we're good it'd be great and i'd be happy and then i'd go and i could be like i could have a comment like i've never had a conversation with a snyder fan in real life honestly no one's ever admitted to it. But I would love if somebody was like, I love Zack Snyder. I'd be like, how good was Rebel Moon? What an opener. He did it. I had my doubts, but he proved me wrong, and he didn't. It's just bad.

I also thought, going into this, that this was just a movie. So that's why I was talking about 65 Dinosaur movies so much. It's not that bad at all. It's not the mid-movies, is it? God, Mason. Yeah. I mean, it's the Flash, it's Ghost, and it's Rebel Moon for me. It's not that bad at all. It's not the mid-movies, is it? God, Mason. Yeah. I mean, it's The Flash, it's Ghost, and it's Rebel Moon for me. It's those three.

Yep. But they're bad in different ways. Like The Flash is like, you love this. And it's like, I fucking hate everything about this, actually. Yeah. You've put somehow through statistically you've created like the worst thing I could experience in a cinema. I guess as well at the very least, even though Rebel Moon is so derivative of previous, I'm not changing my mind.

But even though Rebel Moon is so derivative of everything else, at least he went, I'm going to make this for the, like this is what my fans like. Yeah. They like this grim, dark universe. And it's what he likes as well. Yeah, exactly. But The Flash is just like, these are the properties we have to use. And this is like our polling has said that this is what people want, I guess. So it's just such a churned out product. Yeah.

Even more than Ghosted. Yeah, well, Ghosted also, it's like Chris Evans is like, I don't know how to get a girlfriend. And it's like, you're fucking Chris Evans. Obviously in this universe you're not, but you look exactly like Chris Evans. That's true, yeah. I don't believe you. I'm unlucky in love.

Why? Yeah. Why would that be the case? Does he have a repellent personality? Yes. Oh, that's it. But it's in a way that's like, yeah, look. Here's the thing about Rebel Moon as well, and we talked about this.

We feel like there's not going to be the campaign to be like, continue Rebel Moon because people only care about Zack Snyder in terms of, like, petitioning things when it's the DC characters. And he's the underdog in a way. He's the guy pushing back against the suits. Yeah, whereas if you look at, like, nobody's like, oh, zombie universe, Zack Snyder, you've destroyed the zombie. Yeah, whereas if you look at, like, nobody's like, oh, zombie universe, Zack Snyder. Yeah, right. You've destroyed the zombie.

No one cares. Yeah, right. They want to see his version of Batman say fuck and then, like, have sex with Catwoman or whatever. Yeah. And then. James, I'm going to press you for a decision. It's the Flash.

Okay, right. I was so mad, Mason. Yeah, I know you were, yeah. And it was a long time ago, but I still feel it. Yeah. Just, again, it's the arrogance of being like, you fucking love this. Yeah, right.

Eat this shit. Like, it's just. Okay, now, James, we got one more before the. Right now, we're going to do the results first. Worst movie ever was The Flash, 14%. Quantum Mania, 18%. Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey, 9%. Ghosted, 5%.

Fast X, 4%. Didn't even get a Guernsey, but again, Rebel Moon was added late. That's true. So, yeah. Also, people hate Rebel Moon. Look at any comments anywhere. People do not like it. Just a movie, James.

Yep. Not the best, not the worst. Some of these, there's some crossover here, of course. Yeah, of course. But there's some new stuff. So, 65 Dinosaur Movie, I think maybe that's your lead contender at this point Ant-Man and the Wasp

Quantumania that's also very bad it's very just a movie I think it's bad though it's probably bad it's too bad to be just a movie Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom that's just a movie

Blue Beetle Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny what a god what a brutal year for movies that should have could have been and should have been incredible but it may be just a movie

John Wick Chapter 4 no no absolutely not. How dare you, Rob Collings or whoever nominated that. How dare. Fast X. No, because of Jason Momoa.

Yeah. The Marvels. Maybe. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. No, that's a good one. Rebel Moon Part 1. No, that's a bad movie. Shazam Fury of the Gods.

Transformers Rise of the Beast. Those last two are just a movie. Transformers was very just a movie for me I mean I think I said best movie ever but that's the rule, we can't across the course of the year we can't say anything's just a movie I'm not going to put Indiana Jones in just a movie

because at the end he travelled through time and then had a mental breakdown and I enjoyed that element of it and I thought it really sold that It's not a great movie. No. If you were like defend your decision, I wouldn't even bother. Right. But that elevates it slightly out of just a movie.

I'm going to, oh, Shazam Fury of the Gods. I think that may be. Who knows? You know what? I'm going to give it to Shazam Fury of the Gods. Because who knows? Because who knows? Because who knows?

Like Transformers Rise of the Beast, I'm like, oh, at least like the two human characters. Pete Davidson was good. Yeah, Pete knows? Like Transformers Rise of the Beast, I'm like, oh, at least like the two human characters they were. Pete Davidson was good. Yeah, Pete Davidson was good. And the two human characters, I'm like, oh, I like these guys. Unless he's bad, in which case we don't endorse anything. We never liked any of those people. And, you know, it's like, you know, there was some, you know,

the moment where like Pete Davidson's Transformers being destroyed, but then him and the human guy team up and they. Yeah. That's kind of affecting and interesting. That's the thing, isn't it? But I don't think Shazam Fury of the Gods listed anything. Optimus Prime is depressed. That's true, yeah.

Bumblebee comes back to life. I wasn't expecting that. And don't call it a comeback either. I won't do that. I won't do that. For me it's 65 Dinosaur Movie. Okay, so for me Shazam Fury of the Gods, just nothing happened in it. Yeah.

Well, anyway, Dial of Destiny won at 21%, followed by 65 Dinosaur Movie, 14%, Quantumania, 13%, The Marvels, 12%, Blue Beetles, 11%. Do you think 65 Dinosaur Movie would have been elevated if people didn't know it was just like, and it's the past? Did they tell you before? 65 million years ago there were dinosaurs and this guy came to Dinosaur World. I mean, probably not because if you saw a trailer for it and it's him and the little girl and he's protecting the little girl

and you're like what's happening you'd be like well it's probably aliens right yeah so the idea that it's dinosaurs that would shock you for a minute yeah but then it doesn't really change that much it's still like do you think think they originally, in calling it 65, they were like, we're going to hide what this is? Yeah. Like, because we... Okay, we did a commentary for Planet of the Apes 1968, which is going to come out on BigSandwich.co.

Like, they hide what's going on in that movie the entire time. Do you think that would... Except for the Planet of the Apes part. Yeah, and the bit where they call it... Oh, but the big reveal, right. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. I've just remembered, sometimes I do an award called

the Find and Replace Award. Oh, yeah. Which is where they've clearly gotten, like, an old script of something and they've just branded it, sure, sure. Yeah. I've just remembered sometimes I do an award called the Find and Replace Award. Oh, yeah. Which is where they've clearly gotten like an old script of something and they've just branded it. Yeah, okay. And this year I'm going to go with Expendables 4. Expend 4 walls. I didn't see it.

Yeah, but it was probably Expendables 2. I think they probably got the script for Expendables 3 and they went, okay, find and replace like secret military base with prison or ship or something. And they were like find and replace Jet Li and put Megan Fox in there or something. Who cares? If Jet Li wasn't the third one. Big time winner.

Big time winner. Also, we haven't got comics in here. Oh, yeah. God, I'd have to look at my comics list. Maybe look at the Big Sandwich Comic Book Club. Oh, yeah, but they're not just the comics that came out this year. Let me have a quick look at my library. It's all on a stupid Kindle app now.

Look at your library. What have I got here? Oh, I'm liking Void Rivals. That's good, yeah. I enjoyed Void Rivals. That's a new Robert Kirkman. I'm enjoying Predator Wolverine. A big game is happening.

Minor Threats, we read that this year. That was good. That's true, yeah. I read the Howlboy Crooked Man this year. That was fun. Blacksout I haven't read yet. What else have I got here? Blah. That's true, yeah. I read the Howlboy Crooked Man this year. That was fun. Blacks Out I haven't read yet. What else have I got here? Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Every now and then I buy an Aliens comic expecting I'm going to pick it up forever. Oh, Maniac of New York was out this year. There's a new series on that. Eight Billion Genies.

That's good. Have I finished that? I don't know. What do you think, Mason, in terms of comics? I don't remember anything that I read. Oh, A Righteous Thirst

for Vengeance was good. Oh, yeah. That's the one that's got Benedict Wong in it. Yeah. I don't know if that came out this year, but I'm going to say that. I really liked it. You could say 8 Billion Genius. I kind of like Big Game.

I know it's like. I like Big Game. It's kind of the tying together of all the Mark Miller world stuff. You know. No, I agree. I'm excited to see where it goes, I guess. I like. No, I agree. I like excited to see where it goes, I guess. I like, no, I agree. I like big game also.

There's Batman versus a robot. That was pretty fun as well. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah. Do you read Bloodstained Teeth? Did you tell me about that? No, I don't know what that is.

Yeah, cool. I've got a few here that I'm like, oh, shit, I haven't even read that yet. Yep. Little Monsters. I mean, isn't that all content these days? Oh, my God. Morbius. I've got Morbius in here. Yeah. because I read some Morbius at some point.

Yeah. Anyway, let's move it on. Mason, it's the best movie. That's right. The top ten nominated by listeners. Yeah. The top contenders have been chosen by listeners from a long list. Last year, James voted for Everything, Everywhere, All at Once.

Mason voted for the movie Ghosted. Oh, I didn't. I voted for Glass Onion. And the listeners chose The Batman starring Robert Battenbatt. Okay, here's the nominees. Top ten. Barbie. Yep.

Dungeons and Dragons, Honor Among Thieves. Good movie. Godzilla Minus One. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3. Yep. John Wick Chapter Four. Yep. Killers of the Flower Moon.

Oppenheimer. The Marvels. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse, or other. God. For me, Godzilla minus one. Yeah, probably. Because surprised me.

Yeah. I'd heard it's good, but I'm like, it's Godzilla, whatever. Well, exactly. And we've talked about this before, but I'm like, well, Godzilla, like the American MonsterVerse movies, they're pretty good. We were in the midst of watching those. Yeah.

And I'm like, these are pretty fun. Yeah, I like them. Pretty fun, you know it fun you know and i'm like and again i said and we're on the back end of them the less good ones when i saw it and i remember saying to you beforehand this i'm like this will probably be okay yeah i hope i hope it's i hope it's fun but i don't know it might be a bit not but like just the again you need the balance between godzilla showing up and he's destroying stuff or he's saving everybody yeah but you need the balance between Godzilla showing up and he's destroying stuff or he's saving everybody. Yeah. But you need the balance between that and the human drama, and I think they absolutely crushed this.

What a great cast of memorable people. Like the male lead and the female lead were so good just working together. Yeah. And the team of like the ragtag team. They're coming together. Yeah, they're coming together, the ragtag team of oddballs who have to work together to stop Godzilla. Yep. Just Godzilla is just a mean maniac. Just, and the level of destruction, and it's so good.

And if people haven't seen it, I'm really excited to get the Blu-ray or whatever. Just want to say a special shout-out to Dungeons & Dragons because it was good and fun. It was good and fun, yeah. I like that. But everything on here is like. Everything here was good. Barbie was good. Dungeons and Dragons because it was good and fun. It was good and fun. And I like that. But everything on here is like. Everything here was good.

Barbie was good. Dungeons and Dragons. You know what? I wouldn't put the Marvels in the top ten. Oh, right. Yeah, good point. Yeah. But John Wick Chapter 4 reinvigorated the franchise for me.

So this is a tough call for me. I wouldn't put Killers in there either. Interesting. Oh, would I? Why not? No idea. I think I'm putting that and Napoleon together. Two streaming movies.

Yeah, you're right. But I did really enjoy Killers. Yeah, Killers, just great. Odd faces. Odd faces. Everybody putting in their best work. And everybody, even though it's like Leonardo DiCaprio and De Niro, such a good ensemble.

Just everybody's putting in their A game and everybody gets a chance to just, and the same with Oppenheimer. Yeah. Just like people who – like Alden Ehrenreich who you're like, this guy's never got a fair shot I think. This guy's great and he's – And he had to be Han Solo. Yeah, right. He had to be Han.

He got Jury Duty and he had to be Han Solo. But just all the – and he got a chance to be in a billion-dollar movie, so everybody has seen so many great people. Didn't make a billion, but yeah, go on. Didn't it? 850 million? It got close. Well, that's fine, I guess.

But yeah, just what a good lineup. But I am going to go with Godzilla minus one. Me too. Spider-Verse, 26.1%. 26%. Oppenheimer got 20%. Barbie, 12%. Guardians, 11%.

Godzilla minus one, 8%. There, 11%. Godzilla, minus one. 8%. There you go. Well, I mean, that had a smaller release. That's right. And also, people didn't like it as much as the other ones. That's right. And what do you think about that?

I don't care. Favorite moment from the – there's a last thing here. It's an optional thing, which I guess you could still submit, which is favorite moment from the podcast this year. An optional thing with the Best of the year clip show coming soon in January. Thanks for voting. So if you wanted to put something in for the show that you liked. Maybe this entire segment you want to put in.

Maybe. Slot that in. Folks, maybe. And I can only speak for myself, but maybe it's Ferrari Dracula. You know? I don't think it's a character that you've fully fleshed out. That's the thing. The possibilities are endless.

No, but I think in a bad way. It's like you've shown a G.I. Joe card. No, I think it's just boundless. It's got franchise potential. It's got legs. Oh, the world of, oh, my God, yeah. Can you see this being purchased by a major studio? I'm saying Adam Driver's probably at the door right now.

I hope not. Yeah, I think he's gone to the studio and he's like, can we pull regular Ferrari out of cinemas? Because Ferrari Dracula is, I think, is going to overshadow it. Yeah. I'm going to be embarrassed by my previous work as regular Ferrari, Mr Ferrari Enzo Ferrari, and I'd rather be Ferrari Dracula. Yeah.

All right. Well, look, let's see what people think. Okay. I would say almost certainly not. And if it does, it's Collings doing you a favor. That's right. He's placating you, Mason. I'll take it.

All right. Thank you to everybody who voted. But it's not the end of the show, is it, Mason? Absolutely not. Yeah, no, really. Really appreciate people taking the time to go through this. Yeah. Yeah, that's super awesome.

And again, thank you so much to Collings for putting this together. My God. So much work. Yeah. All right. What's up next, Mason? It's what we're reading. Yep. What we're going much work. Yeah. Alright, what's up next, Mason? It's What We Readin'. Yep. What We Gonna Read. Yep.

I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? Woo! Last What We Reading for the year, but also the first one for the new year. Oh my goodness. Mason, I watched the Christmas special of Doctor Who. Me too, that's what I want to talk about. With the new guy, the new Doctor Who.

The new guy, new gal, all the new folks. I thought it was pretty fun. I thought it was super fun. Yeah. So we've got Judy Garber as the new Doctor and Millie Gibson, I think, is the new companion. Will I come back? I don't know.

When is it back? I don't know. But it's enough for me to go, yeah, I'll check in on this. Exactly right. Like the new Doctor, it reminded me of like first couple episodes of Tenet. I feel like there's a lot of energy to it. It's got some zip and some zap. It's got some zip and some zap and it's like that original Tenet Doctor

has a real mean edge to him. Yeah. And I think that was absent in a good way. Like this is, again, like when we talk about the previous Doctor who's special. Because he literally shed that part of himself. He shed the sad bit. was absent in a good way. This is, again, like when we talk about the previous Doctor Who specials. He literally shed that part of himself. He shed the sad bit. The sad bit has a little cottage in London or something now.

But I thought it was good fun. It's Ruby Sunday is an orphan and where did she come from and she's trying to find her and she she lives with her like a original foster yep parents and i think it's got a little vague in terms of like some time travel stuff that yeah i didn't they went oh something happened and that someone rode through time and well i mean the main part the main part is is uh ruby has to look after a foster baby and then it gets stolen by goblins yes which is the lab who live in the sky and in a flying yeah what what have you and then they that's a fun adventure yeah uh there's a song there is there's a musical bit and what i liked

about i'm sure there are some people who are down on this some people like this is a doctor who's actually serious stuff so whatever but i i don't think you've ever seen doctor i really liked it and i you know what i liked about it because the the goblins sing a song about how they're going to feed this baby yeah to the goblin king. And then the doctor's like, no, no, keep going. The song ends. And he's like, no, I'm going to sing also now. And I like that everybody gets involved, which I think that spoke

to the character of like, well, Ruby's going to be a character who just rolls with it kind of thing. You know? Ever in a situation where you've got to sing all of a sudden? No, never. I would never. And I can't. Have you?

Yeah. Great. That's good. So, yeah, I don't know. When is it back? Sometime in mid-year? I don a sudden? No, never. I would never, and I can't. Have you? Yeah. Great. That's good. So, yeah, I don't know. When is it back? Sometime in the mid-year? Yeah, maybe. I don't know.

Who cares? Who cares, man? But, yeah, it's good to see Doctor Who is a thing that I might start watching again at some point. Yeah, hell yeah. I've also been watching the What If season two, which are doing all episodes leading up to New Year's. Oh, yes. I think it's much better than season one. Interesting.

I don't know if everybody thinks that. I haven't read anything about it. But it's not just like what if this person did what that person did. Right. There's a 1602 episode. Yeah, great. There's a Nebula is a detective. She becomes a member of the Nova Corps and does like a little detective episode

and that's really fun. I love that. Happy Hogan saved Christmas. He does a Die Hard. There's that episode. So they're all out now? They would be all out, yeah. But I haven't seen the last couple.

And just as an aside, because there's some characters that don't appear, like as in, sorry, there's some actors who don't reprise their roles as like various ones. But the voices for Tony Stark and Captain America, incredible. Like that's not, if I didn't know, I'd be like, yeah, probably.

Is it the same ones from last season? I believe it is, yeah. But just really nailing the cadences of those two characters. And there are some returning episodes and characters like Captain Carter is back and it's the same Captain Carter. Nebula is back who was on the Guardians of the Multiverse. She's back. Dork, Dark Doctor Strange is back.

Doctor Strange. Yeah. So I was kind of like, I guess I'll watch this. And then I'm like, no, these are pretty good actually. I like these a lot. There's a Peter Quill comeback that comes back to earth as a little kid, and he starts trying to kill everybody. Oh, yeah.

It's good, man. All right, I'm going to check it out. I've got a little bit of downtime, so I'll do that. You should, nerd. Now it's time for Letters. Whoa. Give this a go. Give it a go.

Tell your mates. The classic one was Letters. Too soft. We love you. Some letters. Perfect. Only a day away. The classic one was... Too soft. Perfect. We're going to do letters. Well, well, well.

If it isn't the letter segment of the show. That's right. And let me tell you the truth. Go on. People write in. They might send a Gmail to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's right. Or if they're still using Twitter, they'll hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter.

Do you have any letters? I have so many letters, James. You don't need to read them all. I'll read two or three. Okay. Here's one from Daniel. Daniel. Hey, boys, I've been listening to the pod for years now and subscribed to Big Sandwich.

Thank you. And love the Comic Book Club. Thank you. Just wondering if with the Umbrella Academy show coming to an end this year, I wondered if you would cover the comic on the show. That's a great idea. We should do that.

I love, I'm not sure if I've read all of it, but everything I've read. I've read a bunch of it. But it was delightful. It's really great and it's a lot different from the show. That is true. And that's what I love about the show is that they were like, let's take the framework and make some changes there.

But it's the same creator as well, isn't it? It is, it's Gerard Way, yeah. So they're not just like, let's just ruin this guy's thing. It's the same thing with Scott Pilgrim. Yeah. Where the creator's still involved and went, I would's just ruin this guy's thing. It's the same thing with Scott Pilgrim. Yeah. Where the creator's still involved and went, I would personally like to do a fresh thing. I don't want to spin my wheels again and do the same thing but animated.

Yeah. I would like to do it. And it's the same with this. It's clearly like, we should update this for a more modern concept, you know? Yeah. Have a great New Year and happy Hogman-y from Scotland. What's Hogman-y? Dunno.

Cool. Probably Scottish New Year. Scottish New Year. Yeah. Oh, hang on, my phone's ringing again. I better not be a mum now. What's Hogman-y? Dunno. Cool. Probably Scottish New Year. Scottish New Year. Yeah. Oh, hang on. My phone's ringing again. I better not be a mum. Is it my mum?

Oh, my God. Oh, it's Claire. Oh, better not be inviting you to coffee. Hang on. Hello. Hello. I'm just doing a podcast with my good friend, Nick Mason. You admitted it.

And this is something you want me to tell everybody on the show, just to clarify. All right, I'll put you on speaker. So everybody, Claire wants me to tell everybody that she drove a road and she nearly got the car bogged, but she didn't. I love that. Yeah. There you go, Claire.

All right, I'm on the speaker. Yeah, you're on the show. Congratulations. This is what you wanted. No, you should tell them. I mean, it's such a good story. You should tell them. Right, fine.

Well. No, you can't. There's no time. We're wrapping it up for the year, Claire. You're not on speakerphone anymore, just so you know. You're just talking to me. All right, I got to go. I got a podcast.

Claire, I'm at work. Imagine if I was a professor, right? I was a professor and I was- Doing surgery. Doing surgery. Imagine if you was a professor of surgery. Yeah, and you came in and this was the situation. People would be like, this is not appropriate.

You know? She said I didn't have to answer the phone. No, I have to because what if somebody died? We had this conversation earlier. You didn't answer to me. She did nearly die. But you didn't. It's true.

No, you're probably right. You're an absolute superstar. Congratulations. Good work on not dying or killing the kids. Let's give her an award. Yeah. We've still got time to give her an award. Okay, what's the award? The Don't Get Bogged Award. Yeah, you work on not dying or killing the kids. Let's give her an award. Yeah. We've still got time to give her an award. Okay.

What's the award? The Don't Get Bogged Award. Yeah, you got the Don't Get Bogged Award. Now we have to do that every year. Okay. Bye. That was Claire. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Avoided the Bog Award. So we have to give it every year. Okay. Fair enough. Now we have to think of an idea for every year. Does it have to be someone literally avoiding a bog? No, it can be a metaphor. Great, cool.

Anyway, I'm glad. Another classic award. I'm glad she didn't die on that road. In a bog. On that treacherous road. In a bog. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fantastic stuff.

Thank you to Claire also for this year. My goodness. A lot of things that are happening that people wouldn't even know. Yeah, all right. Let's wrap it up. Nah, Mason. You don't like kudos? No, I like kudos.

You don't like it? Okay, what's next? I got a tweet here from Redline Flames who says, I watched the movie Click again. It would be a good Caravan of Garbage series with Adam Sandler films. Some of Click is set in 2023. Cal Kestis is in it. Whoa.

And Terry Crews is in it. Whoa. Yeah, I'll do some Adam Sandler stuff. Sure, I guess. He's got some stuff coming up soon probably. We're doing sad stuff. Yeah, do this with Punch Drunk Love. Yeah.

Uncut Gems. Just the sad stuff. And Click. Click. The sad trilogy. The Adam Sandler trilogy. Oh, I love that. What else, Mason? the sad stuff. And Click. Click. The sad trilogy. The Adam Sadler trilogy. Oh, I love that. What else, Mason?

Here's an email from Nick. Yep. He says, hello, boys. My girlfriend is the daughter of two Australian immigrants in the US. They moved here to Alabama in the 80s. What? Can you give me some 1980s Australian slang and references I can use to impress them? Jeez.

Crocodile Dundee, obviously. Yeah, that's a big one. Paul Hogan. Just say Paul Hogan. Say hey, hey, it's Saturday. Say that, obviouslyundee, obviously. Yeah, that's a big one. Paul Hogan. Just say Paul Hogan. Say hey, hey, it's Saturday. Say that, obviously. Just say hey, hey, it's Saturday. Say how about that Bob Hawke, Prime Minister of Australia.

Say America's Cup 1983. That's right. I bet you're conflicted about that, you could say, because you live in America. What else could you say? Dame Edna. You could say Dame Edna. You don't have to say Dame Edna sucks,

because in the 80s probably didn't suck as much no yeah um uh paul keating paul keating classic yeah yeah treasurer or whatever he was right uh the ford falcon yeah that was a big one yeah um slamming slamming down a can of solo holden kingswood oh that's good. That is good. Yes, the solo man. Yeah, exactly. Say the solo man says hi. Yeah. You know? Say Albie Mangles.

Say Albie Mangles. Yes. Famous beach bum adventurer Albie Mangles. Say. The Comedy Company? Say the comedy. Might be a bit late. Depends when they move. Yes.

Maybe say, do you remember the Comedy Company? Yep the comedy. Might be a bit late. Depends when they move. Yes. Maybe say, do you remember the Comedy Company? Yep. Say Kylie Minogue. Say Alvin Purple. Yep. Say, what came before the Comedy Company? Probably something bad. Something bad.

Something awful. Probably even worse than the Comedy Company. Say some mother's. No. What was the Australian version of that? I don't know. The sad guy who lived with his mother. With Ruth Cracknell.

There's a remake of that now. Oh, yeah, there is too. It's called Mother and Son. But he did one before that, didn't he? Say Norman Gunston. Norman Gunston. Say – Say Peter Russell Clark.

Say getting a big M at the – what do you call them? What do we call – The whatever. No, what do you call like a – A milk bar. a milk bar the milk bar say getting a big em to the milk bar and also getting a um uh one of those awful meat stick things yeah they're called a bloody kebab no a um uh chico roll say oh okay here's how you open if you want to impress him this is it and this is the Say, hey, I bet you remember going down to the milk bar

for a Big M and a Chico roll and then watching Norman Gunston on the telly. Perfect. Yeah. And they'll say, you marry this girl. Whatever. You better marry her. Say the first singer of ACDC who died.

Bon Scott, probably. All right. Last one. John Farnham. John Farnham. John Farnham. Yeah. You're the voice. You're the voice, say that.

Lightning Jack, whatever. Was he Lightning Jack? He was Lightning Jack. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Ethan Manley says, hashtag week the planet pod, listening to Godzilla minus one F, and I think it'd be a good caravan of garbage to hear your thoughts

on some of the original Godzilla movies in the lead up to Godzilla X-Con. We'd love to do that. I was thinking at least we do the first Godzilla and the very, very, very first King Kong. Yeah. Two black and white movies. And he's one more email. And watch them get no views.

That's right. Well, maybe. Maybe post. I doubt it. I doubt it. He's one more email from Gregorio. Gregorio! Subject line, Lost Viking Heads.

Yep. Lost Vikings was a great puzzle game from Blizzard with three characters, each having a unique ability. It was interesting to solve each puzzle. A great greatly underrated game. Grats to Meso for calling it out to it. Knew he had great taste in games. What other old school games do you feel are not fully appreciated?

Well, Viking Child, obviously. I'll cover this for you, James. Albie Mangles the game. Norman Gunston the game. Lightning Jack the game. Red Faces. Special Clip Show. the game. Norman Gunston the game. Lightning Jack the game. Red Faces, special clip show, the game. The game. Going down to the milk bar for a Big M and a Chico roll, the game. The point and click adventure game.

All of those are great, I think. Plus other games. I would love just to go up and just list some things off his phone. Yeah, I'll be Mangles, Dickie Nay, America's Cup. Yeah, that's right. Is that enough? Have I impressed you yet? Is that?

But to answer you quickly. I like to think their references haven't gone beyond that. Yeah. So you couldn't go into the 90s. Before we go, and this is a plug, but I've just remembered it, so it's also relevant. We're going on break, obviously, but the Big Sandwich is still going, so you go to bigsandwich.co, you sign up.

We've recorded a bunch of stuff in advance, but one of it is a little old-school game that people might recognize, a little Let's Play called Doom. Yeah, Doom, man, for the 30th anniversary. That's right, yeah. It's an exciting one. Look, and to answer your question, I love a point and clicker. Oh, my God, I know that.

I love a Monkey Island. I love other ones, Broken Sword. Yep. Remember Broken Sword? No, which ones are? You don't have to. And others, you know? Let me check. Broken Sword game. I don't know what this is. Yep. Remember Broken Sword? No, which one's that? You don't have to. And others, you know? Let me check.

Broken Sword game. I don't know what this is. No. 1996? Yeah. I don't know. I love the game Mean Streets, which is not based on the Martin Scorsese movie. It's a different thing.

Oh. And the sequel Martian Memorandum and some other ones. Are they all set in space? No, they're set on Earth mostly. Why is it called Martian Memorandum? There's a little bit on Mars. Oh, my God. It's like Total Recall.

Mean Streets is a very Blade Runner. It's a big-time Blade Runner ripoff situation, but it's... I love the movie Blade Runner 2049. Yeah, yep, that's the one. Yeah. Well, Mason, it's that time of year again. The start of the year. The end of the show.

Yeah, the start of the year. Also, I'm changing the theme song for real. Okay, great, good. It's going to be all instrumental. I love that. Good. I'm changing the theme song for real. Okay, great, good. It's going to be all instrumental. I love that. Good. I don't want to hear about it. If I hear about it, I'm going to change it to something even worse.

So this is bad. You're changing it to a bad thing. Yeah. Great, I love it. Wait, is that what people want, though? Maybe. I don't know. Figure out what they want the most and then do the opposite.

That's what I'm trying to do. Yeah, okay, great. Anyways, what do we got here? Folks, it's the first episode of the year, but it's also the final episode in this season of The Weekly Planet. We're doing seasons now. That's right. Folks, thank you so much for listening.

We absolutely appreciate it. We hope you come back in a few weeks. Oh, yeah. We very much appreciate that. Thank you for telling your friends about it, but don't tell them in the next three weeks because they'll listen to one episode and they'll go, I'd love more episodes, and there won't be any.

Or they'll listen to the clip show and they'll be like, I don't get this. Yeah, I don't understand any of these deep, deep irrelevant cuts, especially the part where they just started screaming about Albie Mangels, which is going in the best of. But tell your friends about it in a few weeks. Yep. And also – Maybe send them Caravan of Garbage Away.

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and doing all sorts of stuff, clips, channels, and TikToks. Incredible work all year. Video editing, all sorts of stuff. Ben channels and TikToks. Incredible work all year. Video editing, all sorts of stuff. Ben and Lawrence and Matt also working on the YouTube. I mean, they get enough kudos on the channel. Do we need to bring them into this? No. I don't think so.

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movie commentaries, early videos, video game, let's plays. Again, it'll keep going while we're on break. That's right. I like these guys for some reason. I want more of that stuff. We do stuff that's a little different from the regular podcast. That's right, yeah. It's all fun, I think. We have a good fun time. I think it definitely is. In fact, I don't think I know. of that stuff. We do stuff that's a little different from the regular podcast. That's right, yeah. But it's all fun, I think.

We have a good, fun time. I think it definitely is. In fact, I don't think I know. I'm confident. I'm pretty confident. Next week, nothing. We're on break. Yeah, shut up.

Week after that, nothing also. No, maybe the clip show at some point. It'll happen at some point in January. Colleen's put a lot of effort into it. Leave him alone. He'll get to it. Get to it. Give him a minute.

Give him a minute to have a little break. Yeah. And, yeah, we'll be back with our best of the most anticipated of the year. That'll be the first episode. That's right. Again, thank you so much to everybody who listens and supports. Mason does have to go to work, so I am kind of speeding through this, but I cannot stress enough how much I love doing this.

I've got a little bit of time. I know, but I really appreciate it. Oh, slow it down. No, that's too slow. That's too slow. But, oh, my God, I know we're mean and rude and we're sorry, all right? But I have trouble expressing emotions, okay? All right? That's your fault. I know. No, oh, my God, I know we're mean and rude and we're sorry, all right? But I just have trouble expressing emotions, okay? All right?

That's your fault. I know. No, the listeners. Oh. Okay. But I just, again, I say this all the time and I'm sorry, but just the idea that I can do this from home and I can support and be with my family and just the free time that it offers me

in my life is just, I... You can head to the beach and get bogged sometimes. Yeah, who knew? I'm a moron. And if you're thinking of starting a thing, you should just do it because then it might work. I agree. I don't know.

Because I'm a moron. And you don't know what the idea is also. No, I don't know. That's for you to decide. I'll get a good one though. Yeah, you better. Don't fuck it up. Yeah.

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