The Weekly Planet - 524 Rebel Moon - Part Two: The Scargiver

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

After much anticipation we finally have a chance to wrap up the Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon saga (for now) with Part Two: The Scargiver. We also talk the news of the week including trailers for Transform...ers One and Trap, Tarantino cancels his final movie, casting of Shadow The Hedgehog plus Ma & Pa Kent, a One Punch Man live action update, David Zazslav's big payday and a more. Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:03 Tarantino Drops Movie Critic Movie11:53 Ma & Pa Kent Casting for Superman: Legacy14:00 Keanu Reeves is Shadow the Hedgehog15:10 One Punch Man Live Action Movie Latest16:54 Trap Trailer21:21 Transformers One Trailer26:21 The US Office Reboot(?)29:05 David Zazslav's Big Paycheck32:57 Rebel Moon - Part Two: The Scargiver (spoilers 40:00 to 01:06:40)01:06:40 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read (feat. Fallout series)01:17:01 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram â–º https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter â–º https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok â–ºhttps://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube â–º https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel â–º https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, to support life-saving progress in mental health care.
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Starting point is 00:01:05 It's my co-host Nick Mason. Hi, everybody. Yeah, man. James, sometimes we translate the pre-show to the regular show. It's true. And that was one of my incredible characters from before the show, which is a guy who says, hi, everybody. And we're going to establish more of that character during the...
Starting point is 00:01:21 Because sometimes I like a universe where it's kind of initially like it seems boring and it's not fun. You kind of bog down in it. And then you promise more and wider and bigger things that you'll love. Maybe I could do an R-rated version of that guy later. Hi, everybody. Shut up. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah. No, it hasn't worked. I don't like it. From the moment I it hasn't worked. I don't like it. From the moment I said hi, everybody, I didn't like it. But it's great to be here. But you're committed to it now, aren't you? No. No.
Starting point is 00:01:52 We can cut anything out. So you can just drop things. I think so, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Unless you spend $200 million on it and the suits demand another one. Yeah, sure. And then a cool, edgy R-rated cut later.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Absolutely. Well, of course, we are going to be talking coincidentally because I guess you could say that there's some overlap between this and Rebel Moon Part 2, The Scargiver. Yes. Do you think? Maybe. So we're going to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:02:14 But in the meantime. That's right. This was a clever metaphor the whole time. Oh, I don't get it. But in the meantime. Yes. In the build-up, we've got some news that people can skip to if they want to to any of this because there's time codes below.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Colleen Stiles of Duet, it's this. We're talking about Tarantino dropping out of his latest project. So you can just stop. You can just stop. If you're scared. If you're Tarantino and you're scared. You're scared that you might mar your legacy. Oh, my legacy.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Oh, what if my last movie is bad? Oh, I did a poop and I slipped in the poop. You know what he's like. Yeah, yeah. And now I'm going to stop making a movie critic because no one will respect me on set because I'm covered in poop. Good luck to him. Superman casting.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Going to talk about Shadow the Hedgehog surprise casting, Mason. Okay. An update on the live action One Punch Man, trailers ahoy for Transformers 1 and Trap. You want to talk about the Office reboot. I picked up on one line in the press release. And then we've got a normal man update by David Zaslav, president and CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery
Starting point is 00:03:20 and his 2023 compensation package. He's earned it, I think. I think so. They think so. There's a big statement about it. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Let me have a drink first. Have a big drink. Get to that caffeine you love, James. I will. I will. I will. This week we're sponsored by caffeine. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Last week you said we couldn't. Last week you were very firm. We can't be sponsored by any soft drink company, any soda pop company. That's right. But nothing says we can't be sponsored by caffeine. drink company, any soda pop company. That's right. But nothing says we can't be sponsored by caffeine. Big caffeine. Big spoonful of caffeine. What's it look like on a spoon?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Probably like a white powder, off-white powder kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Delicious. Get it in your receptors, we say. That's right. Deadliner reporting and can reveal that Quentin Tarantino, who's dropped the film, the film, what's the film called again?
Starting point is 00:04:05 The Movie Critic. The Movie Critic. The Movie Critic. I just cut and pasted a quote here and it's incomplete, which was going to be his tenth and final project. Apparently he's simply changed his mind, deadline has been told. Now this will mean that he's probably, well, for the time being, not going to revisit this project. He's done this before with The Hateful Eight when it leaked.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And he did it with Pulp Fiction as well. Oh, second Pulp Fiction 2. Well, he's going to do The Vega Brothers, if you recall, but he never got around to that. Well, The Vega Boys came out and beat him to it. Venga Boys? I don't know. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Whatever. Not all jokes work. Whatever. Whatever. This cafe is kicking in. It's pretty good. It's good, right? Go on.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Caffeine. Big spoon of caffeine it'll make you angry yeah yeah it was going to be like john travolta and michael madsen's characters from pop fiction and yeah whatever so so does that mean that this they aged out of it as well yeah but i mean also those those were in his mind and and out in the public eye before social media madness took a hold on all of us. So maybe this one is also similar to that. It was just, well, I had a thought and wouldn't it be interesting and I'm looking around and I'm thinking about it
Starting point is 00:05:12 and I've written some ideas on a napkin or whatever. But what if I didn't? Right, exactly. And we're all like, this is his next movie. I think it was supposed to start like principal photography in August. I think the bulk of the film was going to be next year but so i think it was quite far along okay so maybe this is a case of he got the yips maybe well maybe he did so apparently it was set in california 1977 and based on a guy who really lived but was never really famous and he used to write uh movies for
Starting point is 00:05:40 a porno rag movie reviews yes okay movie reviews Okay. Movie reviews. Don't say that. Yeah, sorry. Apparently the project also morphed into something starring Brad Pitt as a returning Cliff Booth from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, etc. So yeah, it's just not happening. So we don't know what his final project's going to be. I would also say I think if it is his tenth,
Starting point is 00:06:00 that's a big thing to go out on. If he really means this. Yeah, so for people who don't know, Quentin Tarantino has said for many, many years that he's only going to do 10 movies. Yep. But Kill Bill counts as one. Counts as one movie, yes. Both movies, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:11 If you hear that statement and then immediately look at his filmography, you will see that there's already 10 movies. Yep. But that's because he's counting Kill Bill 1 or 2 as one movie. And yeah, and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which was his previous movie, very well received, I think, generally. We both liked it. I thought it was all right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I think upon a lot of rewatches people are like, yeah, this is good. My parents liked it. Well, they don't know anything. That's true. They don't know anything. No, I didn't love it. I thought it was kind of meandering. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah, but I think. I should go back to it. Yeah, I liked the meandering. I hate to meander. I want action all the time. That's back to it. Yeah, I like the meandering. I hate to meander. I want action all the time. That's because you're on caffeine, man. Or wheat thrashing. This is an intervention, by the way.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah? Now, I know I – More caffeine. James, you're not having enough caffeine. That's right. That's how we do interventions in Australia. You get a serve of whatever you're addicted to and then – Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:07:03 They really – They have a go at you for it. Really have one last go. Yeah. But has he considered not restricting himself to 10 movies? Yeah. You know? Because I feel like also, and I know most people feel the same,
Starting point is 00:07:16 that he doesn't feel like he's peaked and that he's been on the decline. Like even though I didn't love Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, it's still like it's a pretty spectacular movie and everything else leading up to is the same and it's interesting because if you ask people what their favourites are nobody's like definitively this one everybody's opinion
Starting point is 00:07:36 is different, like a lot of people say Glory of Bastards Pulp Fiction, other people name different movies some people say Death Proof, I'd imagine I don't say that but yeah I think yeah,, it's a tough thing to wrap up. I think the other thing is I think he'll eventually just keep making movies. But he could make Kill Bill 3 and be like, this one doesn't count because it's part of a wider narrative.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That's true. He could do that, yeah. I mean, in the narrative of Kill Bill, people have often been saying, okay, well, the bride in Kill Bill kills someone and their daughter remains alive. And so maybe. And they have a conversation where she's like, why don't you come back and see me if you've got a problem with this. Then they can do that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Yeah. Oh, yeah, that could absolutely not count. He could do it under a pseudonym. Yep. I mean, these days, could you do something? I suppose you could. Yeah. You know what he could do?
Starting point is 00:08:20 He could release a bunch of, and we've talked about this before before a bunch of like asylum cheap knockoff movies kind of thing like he could i think he could approach one of those kind of modern day b movie uh production studios distributors and just say can i make some stupid films yeah on it for a million bucks can i make stupid films can i make stupid films for idiots actually that reminds me another piece of news did you you see that Edgar Wright – also, it's Edgar Wright's birthday. Happy birthday, Edgar Wright. It's 50 years old. Happy 50th birthday. Way to be old.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Dumbass. Sorry, guys. He's doing a remake of The Running Man. Who did yet? Oh, yeah, with – Glenn Powell. Glenn Powell, yeah. And speaking of, that reminded me because that's based on the book by Richard Bachman,
Starting point is 00:09:03 who's really Stephen King, if you recall. But the new version is apparently going to be more leaning towards the book, so less kind of spandexed muscle man with kind of, you know, personas and et cetera. Less like American Gladiators and more like just a guy running around. And I think that's cool. They should call it that. Yeah, they should call it that.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Just a guy running around. Just a guy running around. Did you ever see Series 7, The Contenders? Do you remember that movie?. That you caught that. Yeah, that you caught that. Just a guy running around. Just a guy running around. Did you ever see Series 7, The Contenders? Do you remember that movie? God, which was that? It was from like 2001 maybe and it was about this mysterious game that people, this sort of mysterious game. Oh, yeah, I know this.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Have I seen this? You might have. Yeah. You might have seen it. I saw it on, I'm sure I saw it on DVD. I didn't see it in movies. But it's about like a traditional running man style game where you get notified that you're in the game
Starting point is 00:09:52 and then you have to kill all the other competitors. And it's about a woman who is, if you win three in a row, you get to leave. And it's about a woman who is on her third game and she has to win and get out, but she's also pregnant and it's a whole thing. Don't get pregnant in between Running Man games. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:09 That's irresponsible. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Tarantino, I think you should do, I think you should release some stuff under a pseudonym or just give up on this. Yeah. Just give up on this thing. Just do it and then if you make five bad ones in a row,
Starting point is 00:10:19 you can be like, okay, I'll stop. I've lost the juice. Self Reliance is a movie from last year that Jake Johnson stars and directs where he's a guy who has to survive for a month. Oh, that's right, yeah. And people try to kill him. It's like a fun version. I really liked it.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But you can't kill someone if they're with people. Yeah, if he's with somebody, yeah, they can't. Okay. And so initially it's like, is this even real? Or people don't believe him. That's right. It's like a big cowboy attacks me and they're like, we don't think that happened.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And that seems like a lie, Jake Johnson. It's good. I liked it a lot. Cool. Yeah. What do you think? Do you think he should just give up? Just do what he wants.
Starting point is 00:10:53 But also, Hollywood people are crazy. And their crazy is reinforced every day by people's- By the beautiful work that they do. That's exactly right. So I don't think there's- I'm not sure what it would take for him to go you know what this thing that i've believed for 20 years and everybody's reinforced i'm just gonna give up on it you know i'm just gonna make as many movies as i like many
Starting point is 00:11:13 like he's once upon a time in hollywood book and whatever like he's he he does other materials and things like that so maybe that's what he's gonna do for a while but yeah i don't know i also don't think he can i don't think he can stop yeah okay you know because this is what he does he's going to do for a while, but I don't know. I also don't think he can. I don't think he can stop. Yeah, okay, right. Because this is what he does. He's been doing it for like nearly 40 years. 30 years, whatever it is, yeah. But maybe also he's tied to that idea of like, well,
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'll do this and then I'll disappear and I'll become a Hollywood recluse, like Hollywood stars and directors of yesteryear. He's too much like fucking this. He can't. He can't. He can't. I reckon. James is doing the talky talky motion with his hand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 He can't. Like, you know, like Johnny Carson just like disappeared. Yeah. But Johnny Carson was 110. That's true. Tarantino's like maybe 60. He did come back on that episode of The Simpsons to lift a car over his head. That's true.
Starting point is 00:12:01 What is that based on do you think? I have no idea. For people that don't know, because this is an episode of The Simpsons. Is that actually him? I think it was the voice of Johnny Carson. Right, okay. But there's an episode of The Simpsons from a million years ago where Krusty the Clown comes back from a hiatus.
Starting point is 00:12:18 He gets cancelled and he comes back. Yeah. And one of the guests on his show is Johnny Carson who decides to lift a car over his head. A Buick or something. Yeah. But why? I don't know. And one of the guests on his show is Johnny Carson who decides to lift a car over his head. A Buick or something. Yeah. But why?
Starting point is 00:12:26 I don't know. Was that a common trick in talk shows back in the 60s? So he, yeah, that was in 1993. Okay. So I don't know. Mason's just taking a quick pause, take a bite of a sandwich. What kind of sandwich is that? A regular sandwich.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Okay. All right. All right. I know people would have asked. That's all. It's good to get ahead of it. With caffeine. Oh, sprinkling of caffeine. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Superman casting Mason is via the rap. So Mark Kent and Park Kent have both been cast. Mark Kent is Neva Howell and Park Kent is Pruitt Taylor Vince. Sound like a couple of old folks. They do look like a couple of old folks. He I recognize from a bunch of stuff, including the movie Identity with John Cusack. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And other things. I've got your identity, John Cusack. Yeah, man. We all know who I am. Give it back, though. I think looking at these two, though, they're definitely going for the folksy kind of. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And like older than the previous as well, like maybe potentially in their 70s or 80s. I mean, look at this. That's classic Martha Kent. That's a good one. Yep, absolutely. I'm loving this, man. They haven't gone with the Marisa Tomei, Aunt May stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:35 No, that's – yeah, exactly, yeah. Which, you know, yuck. Why would you go with somebody that hideous? Obviously. So, yeah, seems like a good choice. Looks great. They look heart attack ready. Also, they're alive because sometimes, and I think it's the same,
Starting point is 00:13:47 is Superman birthright? No, not birthright. What are they basing one of these on? All-star Superman. That's got something to do with this, right? His parents are alive in that, aren't they? I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Often they are. Yeah. I think the most common interpretation of the Superman mythos is they are. Yeah. So that's what they did in the 80s when they rebooted Superman. They're like, well, his parents are dead, but it would be nice if he had parents and, like, you know, even though he's super powerful, he won't.
Starting point is 00:14:13 He can go home and be like, God, I got punched so hard by a robot. Well, Clark, have you considered punching that robot even harder? Thanks, Dad. You've always got the wisdom for me. Yeah, that's a classic scene. That's a good scene. I think, yeah, movie and often live-action Superman. Not always.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Dean Cameron wasn't, I think. He always ends up dying. Yes. At the very least. The Park Hampton, yes. I think it's the new Superman and Lois. They're both dead. I think it starts that Martha Kent had just died at the start
Starting point is 00:14:45 and that's why they moved to Smallville. Yeah, yeah. It's in the intro. Martha Kent's just died and it's time to go back to Smallville. This is by THR. Shadow the Hedgehog in Sonic the Hedgehog 3's voice is being revealed. Was it Idris Elba? No, it's Keanu Reeves.
Starting point is 00:15:01 No, he's Knuckles the Hedgehog. Okay, I don't know. He's Knuckles the Echidna. Okay. Yeah. So that's cool. Okay, now was Shadow the Hedgehog. Okay, I don't know. He's Knuckles the Echidna. Okay. All right. So that's cool. Okay, now was Shadow the Hedgehog? He's the one with the gun.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah, I know he's the one with the gun, but was he revealed in Sonic 2? Yes, man. Sonic the Hedgehog 2, the movie. And Jim Carrey is also back because he was like, I'm retiring from movies. Are you Tarantino? Are you really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:20 But he's going to play Dr. Robotnik. Okay. Which is mostly just they film Jim Carrey on a green screen and he just like dabs and thrusts about. Absolutely, yeah. And then they put Sonic in later or whatever. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:31 So, you know, why not get $5 million and do that for a couple of days? Yeah, that's right. Put on a mustache and a bald cap. Good on you. Keanu Reeves, I like it. Good choice. They're pretty solid kids' movies. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:15:43 They're just, they are what they are, which is something we'll probably talk about later as well. Okay, right. Do you think he's going to use these iconic line, guns, lots of guns? Yes, definitely. Like Shadow the Hedgehog? Yes, definitely. Oh, that's so true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I think they're also better movies than the Mario movie. Having only seen the first Sonic, I agree. Yeah. And it's about friendship and whatever. It's about friendship or whatever. Yeah. That's why THR. One Punch Man. You know this movie's happening, don't you? Now I do. It's about friendship or whatever. Yeah. That's why THR. One Punch Man.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You know this movie's happening, don't you? Now I do. It's an action movie. Now I do. It's going to be directed by Justin Lin. We already knew that of fame. Yes. Franchise.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Fast and Furious franchise. Now it appears Rick and Morty creator and co-executive producer Heather Ann Campbell and Dan Harmon will pen the project. Well, well, well. I only got a little bit into One Punch Man season two and I'm like, this has lost me, I think. Season one is spectacular. What lost you in the second season?
Starting point is 00:16:34 Just not great. Okay. Not as funny. Animation's not as good. Yeah. More fighting? I don't know. More focused on the fighting?
Starting point is 00:16:41 I have no idea. I don't remember. I remember the first season like very well, but the second one not as much. Yeah. It's a great show. And there might be a third season at one point. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:52 So there you go. One Punch Man, Western adaptation of an anime. Still no star attached. No. We need the most average man alive. What's that dude? He plays Jimmy Woo. Oh, Randall Park.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah, man. He's too handsome. We've discussed that. Shave his head. It's fine. Shave his head and his eyebrows. He'd look weird. Okay, that would work, I guess.
Starting point is 00:17:12 He'd look weird, Mason. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You want somebody like Tobey Maguire, but obviously not Tobey Maguire. Obviously. Like the blandest man you can imagine. Absolutely. But Asian.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know where you go with that. We'll certainly, we'll soon find out. Do you think he's even going to be Asian? Do you think they're going to westernize this? Yes. I think he'll definitely be Asian.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And like, yeah, you probably should, you know? But, you know, I'm sure a lot of people have a lot. Scarlett Johansson. What if Black Panther was white though? Yeah, what if? What about Emma Stone from that movie? That's a good idea. That's right.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah. All right. That's good stuff, probably. I don't know. Trailers, ahoy, Mason. Trailer time. Two big trailers, two times a day. They're getting stuck in the Suez Canal.
Starting point is 00:17:57 That's right. That's a current reference. Very current. What do you want to talk about? Do you want to talk about Trap first? Now, for people who haven't seen this trailer, it's the new M. Night Shyamalan movie. Well, I would say don't.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I would say the premise, or at least the premise that we're being allowed to see is spoiled in the trailer. So if you want to go into this movie, if you're like, I love M. Night Shyamalan, I don't want to be spoiled by anything, I just want to go in fresh, we are going to talk about the premise, which they sort of reveal in the trailer. Yeah, man. So we're going to talk about that. So maybe skip this, Skip ahead a couple of minutes. I don't know. There's the time codes. There's the time codes. Yep. And then skip ahead another 30 seconds because sometimes the time codes are out. Sometimes there's ads and
Starting point is 00:18:34 whatever. We don't control what ads you say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the premise? Okay. So the premise is. What do you think the premise was? Well, it's Mr. Josh Hartman. He's having a renaissance. He's having a Hartnaissance. A Hartnaissance is here. A Hartnaissance attack. That's right. He is playing a father who is taking his, I guess, tween daughter to a concert.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yep. A pop star concert and she's very excited. Oh, my God. The seats they got, they slap, which is good dialogue, I think, for young people. And they're like, look, it's my favourite pop star, generic. That's a slay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:07 That's a slay that I'm here with you, Dad. That's a slay. That pop star is played by M. Night Shyamalan's daughter. Oh, really? Yeah. Who's got her own movie coming out, actually. That's right, yeah. Which we talked about and I thought it was him
Starting point is 00:19:17 because I think it was like from the mind of M. Night Shyamalan's daughter. Sorry, anyway. Oh, okay. So they're very excited. They're at a concert. But then Josh Hartnett's character, Mr. Sorry, anyway. Oh, okay. So they're very excited. They're at a concert, but then Josh Hartnett's character, Mr. Dad, he notices that there seems to be a big police presence forming up outside the arena, and he asks the staff member what's going on, and the guy reveals that the police have received a tip-off that there is
Starting point is 00:19:43 some sort of the famous butcher, a serial killer, he's at the concert and they're going to get him. They're going to search everybody on the way out and they're going to get this butcher, which is a little bit of a problem for Josh Hartnett because he's the butcher. Yeah. Maybe. And that's what he says to the guy. Yeah, he's like, but that's me though.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'm the butcher. Yeah, they're going to get me. I don't want that. The point of being a serial killer is you don't get caught. Is the twist going to be that both him and his daughter'm the butcher yeah they're gonna get me and i don't want that is the twist the point of being a serial killer is you don't get caught is the twist gonna be that both him and his daughter are the butcher maybe yeah or she's the butcher yeah we'll see that so and oh and he's encouraging her hobbies yes maybe yeah okay yeah uh somebody i love ruining movies for people and ourselves yeah yeah let's talk let's think about it too much before it comes out yeah man uh so i mean also like if he's the butcher you just walk out they go you're the butcher no can't prove it do you have any knives on you no why would i take all my murder killing knives
Starting point is 00:20:34 to the concert that wouldn't be a sleigh would it it'd be a sleigh of a different kind absolutely yeah okay and they'd be like well this is a young person clearly we'll let them through yeah so we see him look at it. He's got on his phone, he's got access to like a basement camera for his house and there's somebody tied up in there, some victim. So the trailer suggests that he is this butcher and they're going to get him. And how's he going to get out of this bucket of syrup, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:01 Just walk out like everybody else. Like everybody else. Like everybody else, he could do that. But are there more twists to come, you know? Just walk out like everybody else. Like everybody else. Like everybody else, he could do that. But are there more twists to come? You know? No. You don't think so? No, that's the only twist. And they get him. Yeah. My guess would be
Starting point is 00:21:15 yeah, like you said, maybe the daughter is the killer. Maybe he is helping the killer under duress somehow. He's being set up. Somebody suggested maybe the little girls are vampire. Sure. I mean, that's the year for it.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah, that's right. But I don't know. I'm excited for this. This looks good. Having been a M. Night Shyamalan hater for many, many years, he's redeemed himself in my eyes. I like his stuff. With old and cabin.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Cabin. Cabin by the woods. Cabin man. Cabin. The next, we and cabin by the woods. Cabin man. Cabin, the next, we're knocking at the cabin. The transforming cabin. The cabin, knock at the cabin. Cabin, we're here to get you. We're going to kill you. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:21:57 That was a good one. I enjoyed that one. So, yeah, there you go. That's out August 9th. Might do an episode on it or we might not. We don't know. Tell us. Depends what's out on Netflix that week. Depends if there's another Rebel Moon movie that week.
Starting point is 00:22:06 There will be. I mean, at this rate, there'll be another one, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they're coming hot and fast, aren't they? I mean, hot. And fast. Yeah. Second trailer's ahoy.
Starting point is 00:22:17 That's right. Transformers 1. I was very much looking forward to this because I was like, wow, I would love a movie in the style of the first 10 minutes of Bumblebee and nothing else. And this is sort of that but very much not really. Not really. This is more like DreamWorks' Transformers.
Starting point is 00:22:31 It is, yeah. So for me, this is not a version of Transformers that I want to see. No. But I showed my son and he's like, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me. Yes, absolutely. Well, what about me being a great dad? And he just left.
Starting point is 00:22:44 He didn't say anything. Wow. Just left the room. Wow. Yeah. What do you think of that? Am I in trouble? No, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Has he come back since? No. He's still probably fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just walk out. When the cops arrive, the cops surround your house, just walk out. Just walk out, yeah. Do some lingo.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Well, this is a young person. That's a slave. It's very much kind of, well, that just happened kind of. It's very tonally that. Big time voice cast, as we know. Chris Hemsworth as Orion Pax, who's going to become Optimus Prime, and Brian Tyree Henry and others. Keegan-Michael Key.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Oh, that's right, yes. Scarlett Johansson. Scarlett Johansson is RC, yeah. Or whatever lady transformer that is. I think it's RC. Yeah. Could be Alita 1. Could be Alita 1.
Starting point is 00:23:28 But it's the RC pink. Apparently, though, this trailer from the people who are at CinemaCon as well and people have talked about it, it is darker than you'd think. Like it takes a turn because, you know, it has to become Megatron. So they establish that they're mates. And they're like, why are you always getting me into adventures? And he's like, I just like having adventures with you. I'm sorry, but aren't we having fun?
Starting point is 00:23:48 And then at the end he's like, I'll kill you. I turn into Megatron. I'll kill you. I'll kill you. No, don't do that. I'll kill you. My best mate's Starscream now. He sucks, but he's my best mate.
Starting point is 00:23:59 But he sucks up to me a lot. I like that. I've gotten used to the attention. Oh, matey Megatron. See? Yeah. You never called me mighty, did you? You called me D16 the dickhead.
Starting point is 00:24:14 You called me dickless D16. It's actually rude. I know you're doing it in five, but it hurts. Yeah, it hurts. You don't have a dickhead. You're a robot. God, what a world. What it hurts. Yeah, it hurts. You don't have a dick either. You're a robot. You're dickless too. You're a robot. God, what a world.
Starting point is 00:24:27 What a universe. All right. Apparently, look, I've seen people talk about various Easter eggs. It is heavy on Transformers lore and various things and like, oh, it's that guy and this thing and whatever. Sure. God, this is good analysis. This is good trailer analysis.
Starting point is 00:24:46 What I would say, yeah, tonally not for me. It's for kids. Yeah. There's no reason to get upset. No, I'm already upset. I'm not going to lie. When I first watched it, I was like, that is disappointing to me specifically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It's not, if you're expecting kind of that, that kind of, yeah, like you said. I just want the 10 minutes of bubble tea, mate. I know you do. Even the designs, like I don't particularly love the designs in this either. No, they're pretty basic, aren't they? Yeah, and I think that's probably because then they can make a Netflix series using the models and whatever. And, of course, it's got the same, it's got the plot progression
Starting point is 00:25:18 of most of these, I'm guessing a Kung Fu Panda and a Teenage Kraken and all these movies where it's like, we can't even transform. Well, you're going to unlock the power to transform. I don't even know how to transform. I'm doing it. I'm transforming. We've done it. You know, kids love that.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Initially, I didn't have a handle on this, but I did. I do. I'm going to win. Yeah. And look, I guess, you know, because I love the movies like Spider-Verse, the latest Ninja Turtles, you know what I mean, like things like that, like that they take kids' properties. And maybe this is that, but I don't get the sense of that from this,
Starting point is 00:25:51 that this is going to be something that I'm going to love. I wonder if some people are mad that in this continuity, Transformers aren't created straight away with the ability to transform. Yeah. Because in the- Are some not in the thing? In the thing? I feel in most continuities what –
Starting point is 00:26:09 Why is Megatron D-16 and Orion Pax gets a name? Why isn't he – I think because D-16 is like a mining robot or something. And Orion Pax's parents were rich. That's exactly right, yes. I could tell. I could tell by the way he – the way he's strutting about. He's got a nice colourway.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Where's your face plate, idiot, as well? Yeah. And when he turns into, I know it comes on and off in different versions. He's going to get the face plate, right? Yeah. But I mean, how can you do a DreamWorks face if you can't see the mouth? Because you've got to do a smirk. Here's the DreamWorks face, James.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Now here it is covered in a face plate. That's better, actually. Yeah, I guess it is. Just because it covers some of your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Anyways, September 13th. We shan't be watching it, probably.
Starting point is 00:26:55 No, I'll be watching it. I'm 100% going to watch it. Oh, you're going to have to watch it with your kids. Which I don't mind. It's Transformers. I mean, we're still getting our G.I. Joe Transformers movie. The one we want. I don't want that.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I want the 10 minutes of Bumblebee, but in a full movie. Yeah. I strongly suspect if somebody took that 10 minutes of Bumblebee and just looped it for two hours, you wouldn't notice. I wouldn't. I really wouldn't. All right. So the Office reboot is getting a reboot.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah. No, James, it's not getting a reboot, is it? No, it's not. That is the twist. So it's going to be two cast members have joined, including Domhnall Gleeson, who's from Star Wars and ex-Machina. Favourite of the show. Favourite of the show.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Donuts Gleeson. That's right. And the other one is Sabrina Impacciatore. I can't do that. I'm so sorry. She's from The White Lotus Season 2. That's right. These are two great choices.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Not who I'd expect to be in an Office reboot, except Mason. Is this not a reboot at all? James, it's not a reboot. Guess what? What? Am I an idiot for thinking that? You are an idiot. But I love this part of the book.
Starting point is 00:27:57 For thinking that? Yes, you are. And for other reasons. But my favorite part of the press release was they were like, it's not a reboot. It's a new story set in the same universe. So Earth. The universe of Earth.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah. But this one has Ed Helms in it and whatever. Yeah. I mean, actually, our universe has Ed Helms, doesn't it? That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Who's going to carry over?
Starting point is 00:28:18 They're going to be like, Jim's here. I reckon Rainn Wilson will make an appearance. And Jim's here. And Jim's here. Even though he runs a giant sporting conglomerate management firm or something now. He lived his dream. I don't think he could go back to that hair.
Starting point is 00:28:33 No. I don't think he's physically capable of it. He didn't. I think he's done so much exercise that now he can't do that. His hair won't do it. His hair won't return to that state. He can't reach his hair even from his big biceps. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Well, he got rid of that hair many seasons ago into the office. Yeah, but people don't remember that. So if they were going to bring Jim back, he'd have to have that hair. That's true. You know, one season he had a wig because he had to do it out of a different hair because he made a George Clooney football movie or something. Did he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So he's got a wig. He's got a Jim wig. Oh. Yeah. Wow. Wow. What a haircut. Everybody had that haircut.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Him, Zachary Levi, your best friend from college that's how i had it yeah that's right yeah people would go in the they would go into the hair salon and all the girlies would ask for the the rachel from friends and all the all the blokes would ask for the the gym from the office yeah that's right that's how it went so there you go let's look forward to it. Yeah. What happened to that Australian reboot of The Office that they promised? Isn't that happening still? Maybe. Isn't that recently? I think they filmed it.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Where is it? They filmed it? Oh, you would know. You know Comedian. I think they filmed it. Yeah. So where is it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Where is it? Who's the lead? Amazon Prime. I'm not going to look. Who's the lead? Felicity Ward. So what is it exactly? It was something to do with work from home.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Oh, okay. Like the premise was that everybody was working from home during lockdowns and then the office demands they all come back or something like that. I like Felicity Ward. Yeah. But how many of these office reboots are actually good? Some to none. Some to none.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I love that, Mason. All right. Let's move it along to our final bit of news. This is by Variety. David Zaslav, who people might know, was president and CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery. I call him the Zaza. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:30:09 He has a 2023 pay package worth of $49.7 million, which was up 26.5% from the prior year. This is according to a company's 2024 proxy statement filed Friday. Zaslav's compensation totaled $39.3 million in 2022 after he received an astonishing $246.6 million, which included $203 million in stock option grants in 2021. Oh, my God. That's a lot of light blue shirts with a navy puffy vest.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Oh, my God. You know what I mean? An infinite amount potentially. Oh, my God, yeah. Now people are like, why is this happening? Because aren't you doing layoffs and like cancelling movies and doing a bad job? Yeah, that's what they want. No, they is this happening? Because aren't you doing layoffs and like cancelling movies and doing a bad job? Yeah, that's what they want.
Starting point is 00:30:47 No, they say this to what you said. 2023 was a challenging year for WBD and the media and entertainment industries as a whole. It's a crappy birthday. Company said via proxy filing. Proxy filing. Put a name to this, you dogs. We were impacted by the changing landscape of advertising spending
Starting point is 00:31:06 and continued weaknesses in the advertising marketing overall. Declines in linear... It's someone else's fault. Listen, declines in linear television viewing, increased competition from other traditional media companies and the enhanced presence of large technology companies in the media space, lingering effects of COVID-19 pandemic on the movie theatre attendance and
Starting point is 00:31:22 other general macroeconomic conditions. It's also... General macroeconomics. Macroeconomics. Wow. Macroeconomics. This is actually the fault of first year macroeconomics at uni is what it is. It's also cited that the once in a generation work stoppage last year, that's also because of that.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So it's been a challenging year. But despite all these challenges, the board's compensation committee believes our CEO and other named executive officers provided exceptional leadership and delivered on several financial, operational, and strategic priorities, Warner Brothers Discovery said via their proxy statement. Proxy statement. Cowards. Fucking believable. So yeah, there you go. Failing upwards. Well, I mean, as I understand it, his compensation, I read this, is attached to cash flow.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Yeah. So he's increased the cash flow, which is to say he's sold off a bunch of stuff and and stopped cancer and canceled canceled a bunch of stuff so there's more money freed up yeah warner brothers has a lot of debt that they gotta pay off so he's he's been doing that smart it's very smart proxy yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean by the end of this like in a couple of years they won't be making anything but that's not important no he'll be gone by then. Yeah, that's right. He's made a big raft out of his puffy vest and he's escaping. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:32:30 God. Yeah, really good stuff. Really, really good. I mean, the problem here is obviously they haven't prioritized making good content. Because that's really what you need to keep these companies afloat ultimately. But maybe they'll pivot back to that at some point. Do you think?
Starting point is 00:32:44 They'll look at a quarterly earnings and go, maybe we should pivot 360 and go back. Oh, no, they're probably going to sell it. Yeah. Or buy something else. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I mean, their acquisition of Warner Brothers Discovery, that worked out so well. It seemed to have. God, that's so much money. I mean, if they were like, they paid me $246 million in the first year, and I wanted to do this job, I'd just be like, that's enough. I will just work for as long as you need me to work. How would the number go up then?
Starting point is 00:33:15 The number in your bank account that you look at? You just stare at your phone and go, number going up. That's the amount of money where if you put it in the bank and just left it, the interest would. Okay, but there's another guy you know at the golf club. What's his name? It doesn't matter. You don't know his name, but his number keeps going up.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Faster than your number. Faster than my number. That's embarrassing to you. Do we do similar jobs? Yeah, ish. You're both the CEO, C-O-C-C-O. Okay. You're that guy.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Do we look mostly the same? Yeah, you've both got a puffy vest on. Yeah. And big fake teeth. That's right, yeah. Yeah, great. Good, good and got a puffy vest on. Yeah. And big fake teeth. That's right, yeah. Yeah, great. Good, good and great. Let's talk about something else.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Maybe Rebel Moon 2? Yeah, I guess. All right. All right. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret.
Starting point is 00:34:07 The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the Center for Addiction and Mental Health, to support life-saving progress in mental health care. From May 27th to 31st, people across Canada will rise together and show those living with mental illness and addiction that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for?
Starting point is 00:34:42 Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Well. Yes, well. A mere four to five months maybe after Rebel Moon Part 1, A Child on Fire. That's right. We've got Rebel Moon Dash Part 2, The Scar Giver. Now on a budget of $166 million, and that's between two movies.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Oh. Smart. Yeah, sure. It's actually, to credit the people behind this movie, it's pretty impressive that they've managed to make a four-hour movie with that budget. Yeah, I guess. It's pretty impressive, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:35:19 I don't know, man. Yeah. Now in terms of box office, there is no box office because this is direct-to-streaming, but presumably if it's anything like the first one, everybody in the world watched it. Everybody watched it, and if you translate that directly to ticket sales because everybody who watched it on Netflix
Starting point is 00:35:33 because they were like, oh, what's on? Oh, yeah, I'll watch this while I do the dishes. They would buy tickets. The cinema, they would all buy tickets and we'll make $200 million. That's right. $300 million. I know in my real life two people who watched the first one. One was my brother, the one you don't like, and he liked it.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah, that sounds about right. Another one was a friend of mine. But that is it. I've never heard anybody mention this. In real life? In any context. Yeah. What about you?
Starting point is 00:36:01 No, not at all. Yeah. Never. And we move in those circles. That's true, yeah. Rebel Mooner circles. Anyway, it's not doing super well critically, 18%, which I think might be Snyder's lowest.
Starting point is 00:36:11 But it's just out. Just out. This will change and whatever. So there's time for new, you know, other reviewers to redress that balance and so forth, you know. And an audience score of 46%, 48%, you know, which doesn't necessarily mean anything really. The movie doesn't live or die on critics or audience scores
Starting point is 00:36:30 from a website. It survives on the love, the audience, they bloody love it. Yeah. You know? Now normally, Mason, I would throw it to you and say, what do you think the story was? And I'd be like, come on, man. He's never ready.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I just woke up, man. God. Well, look, the good thing is, Mason, that they actually recap the first movie at the start of this movie. That's true, they did. So I'm just going to read that to everybody. This is via Jimmy the Robot. Voiced by?
Starting point is 00:36:56 Anthony Hopkins. Sir Anthony Hopkins. On the far edges of the Mother World's reach, circling the gas giant Mara was the small moon of Veld. There a village of humble farmers lived a simple life, born of the earth until the shadow of a warship fell upon their fields. The ship commander, Admiral Noble, demanded more than all else people could give. So it was that a woman named Cora.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yep. So it was that a woman named Cora and a man named Gunner set forth from the village to gather warriors. Is that their names? Yeah, set forth to gather warriors to stand against the dreadnought. On near Wudi, they were joined by the mighty Tarak. In the minds of Dagus, the fierce nemesis. In the Colosseum of Pollux, the wayward General Titus.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And on the planet Sharam, Darian Bloodaxe and his lieutenant Milius. In the ambush on the floating docks of Gondaval, Korra triumphed over the Admiral Noble. Can I stop you there? No! You can pause for a moment. I think it would be funny if Anthony Hopkins misspoke a bunch of times in the opening crawl and then just kept it in.
Starting point is 00:37:54 That would be really funny. On the planet Milius, keep going. No, that was a person. Okay. Korra triumphed over Admiral Noble, leaving his shattered body on the rocky coastline. Got him. Victorious warriors returned to Veldster.
Starting point is 00:38:09 That's the end of him. Yep. To recollect their pay. The threat of the dreadnought is not extinguished, or so they believe. Also, Charlie Hunnam was there. Yeah. He betrayed him. He was Han Solo.
Starting point is 00:38:19 He was Han Solo, but he was betraying Han Solo. That's right. He didn't Han Solo all the way around. We're up to 62 reviews on the Tomatometer. Yep. Tomatometer, the Tomatometer. Yep. Still at 18%.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Okay. No. Just no? We could have watched anything this week, by the way. We could have given an in-depth review of any number of wonderful series that have been dropped in full. I could have finished watching Invincible. There's other movies out. I think we could have finished watching Invincible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:47 There's other movies out. I think we could have talked about Late Night with the Devil. Did you finish Fallout? I did finish Fallout. We'll talk about it later. Yeah, we'll talk about it later. But instead we were like, let's stay at home. Abigail. Oh, yeah, the movie Abigail.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Horror movie Abigail is doing quite well. But you know what? I say we had to do this, but honestly, I was relishing giving this a kicking. Well, you went into it with the wrong mindset, Mason. No, you know what I did? I'm like, you know what? Once again, the last time we thought, okay, this is Zack Snyder's baby.
Starting point is 00:39:15 He's off the leash. He's off the leash. Well, not entirely because there's an even more off the leash one coming. Yeah, Netflix have given him unlimited money to make whatever he wanted to make. He could hire whoever he wanted. He could put in whatever ideas. He's not tied to a DC IP. He could make a horse and then change it to a slightly different alien horse.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Exactly. That's right. He could do anything he wanted. And in the last one, we watched it and we're like, I wish this was good, but it wasn't. And with this one, again, I went into this like i heard some i heard some positive things like he's it's more action whatever he's found his feet here you know we've we've settled in we know who all the characters are no no we don't uh well we do no we know the character that there is which one all of them oh they're the same oh they um uh and and this is the one like we're settled
Starting point is 00:40:02 in the universe you know because people have said, people constantly, you know, the debate is always raging what's better, Star Wars A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back. But a lot of people say the second one is where it really hits its stride kind of thing, you know, with the benefit of many years of hindsight. Well, Empire Strikes Back. So maybe Rebel Moon Part 2, The Scargiver is the one. Well, it's not.
Starting point is 00:40:21 No. It's worse? In some ways it's worse, but also I don't, to be honest, I don't remember as much of the first one. Well, it's not. No. It's worse? In some ways it's worse, but also I don't, to be honest, I don't remember as much of the first one. Yeah, I don't remember much of it at all. I remember not liking it. I probably should have listened to our review to get kind of caught up. In a couple of weeks' time, I think you will remember more
Starting point is 00:40:39 of the first one than you do of this one. You're probably right, yeah. So it starts with they thought Ed Scrin was dead because his body was shattered upon the rocks of Corbin Dallas. Admiral Noble. But what if he came back? Yeah, now like he's dead, which means that everybody on his ship has to go home. Because that's imperial procedure.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Imperial procedure. Imperialist procedurist. By the order of the imperialist procedurist, we've filled in all the forms and now we have to go back. So apparently the rule is that if your admiral is killed, even if it's, you know, by the skin of his teeth he's killed, you can't then just duke the site from orbit,
Starting point is 00:41:19 which we'll talk about, I think. Also, if she knows that because she's part of the Imperial's paralysis, why does she bring the cast of Rebel Moon into Rebel Moon Part 2 back to the village? You don't need to do that because as far as you know, Ed Scrim is fucking dead, which means nobody's coming, which means you can disband. Were they coming to have a wheat-threshing party?
Starting point is 00:41:41 They had a nice time during Rebel Moon Part 1, and they're like, let's all chill out. Let's all chill out on a big wooden table, around a big wooden table, and we'll tell each other our origin stories which don't connect to each other at all. Yeah. I think that's great character work. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:41:55 Okay, we're just doing all spoilers. So there is a scene and apparently it's a carryover from Justice League because Zack Snyder spoke to THR and he said he wanted to do a Last Supper moment in Justice League 2 where it's been 10 years since previous Justice League and they sit around the table and they're like, this is what happened to me in the previous 10 years or whatever. That's symbolism.
Starting point is 00:42:12 That's symbolism. And they do that here. Except all of their stories are, yeah, I was in a fight and then all my people got fucking nuked from space. And then I left. That's everybody's stories. Yeah, they had a spaceship and they shot everybody I know. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:42:26 Back then I had long hair, but now I have short hair. Well, that's really interesting because back then I had short hair and now I have long hair because that's character development. Well, back then I had regular arms and now I've got robot arms. That's right. Don't cut your arms off. No, don't do that. I think it's worth it.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I reckon you could probably swing those light swords or whatever, the hot swords. I reckon you could do it with your regular arms. What's her name? The Scargiver just wraps on up in, like, a towel. Yeah. I don't know. Pretty great.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah. But also, like, the bad guy, like, continues to be Ed Scrim. I know there's bigger threats to the galaxy. Because he's back from the dead. They put him in a chrysalis. Yeah. And now he's back. He comes out and he goes.
Starting point is 00:43:02 And guess what? Now he's slightly stronger. Yeah. And he's like, guess what? I've got a scar. And they're like, oh, we're sorry we didn't fix your scar. And he's back. He comes out and he goes. And guess what? Now he's slightly stronger. Yeah, and he's like, guess what? I've got a scar. And they're like, oh, we're sorry we didn't fix your scar. And he's like. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:43:09 That's your latest character development, actually. Yeah, well, don't worry. Because I know the Scargiver. Scargiver to me, the Scar. But that's going to be great for later when I present her to the Imperial Spirits of Lelavis. And they'll be like, look. And I can go, the Scargiver.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah, man. It's going to be cool. Hey, add Ed Screen. He keeps talking. He's trying to make the Scargiver work., man. It's going to be cool. Hey, add Ed Screen. He keeps talking. He's trying to make The Scargiver work. I reckon we should give him this one because he got hit really hard in the head in the last one. So I reckon just be nice.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Go, yeah, The Scargiver. That's a cool nickname. That's a great name. It doesn't even roll off the tongue. It's The Scargiver. It doesn't work for me, Mason. Also, we find a little bit of backstory about The Scargiver where she was supposed to protect the king and queen and the princess.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And her adopted father, who's the new emperor of the galaxy or something, still out there, by the way, he seized the king and queen. And then so she was like, now we're like, you should shoot the princess. And so she does. And then they betray her. They're like, she killed the princess. And she's like, oh, no. But also, you fucking did. You did it. We all's like, oh, no. But also, you fucking did. You did it.
Starting point is 00:44:06 We all saw it. We saw it. It wasn't an unreliable narrator backstory. It's what happened. We saw it. I mean, luckily. Somebody told you to do it and you did it. Luckily, the princess has a magic power where she just won't die.
Starting point is 00:44:17 She's not dead. They didn't even have to put her in a chrysalis. No, they don't need to. I mean, we don't know that. There's probably some kind of light chrysalis she's in. Yeah. Anyway, in this movie, Admiral Noble, Ed Scranton, he's come back and he's like, well, actually, because I'm not,
Starting point is 00:44:30 I did die, but I've come back and we're going to destroy, we're going to get that village. Also, he was alive at the end of the last movie because he had a phone call at the end. That's true, he did, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, go on. In this one.
Starting point is 00:44:40 No twist there. No, they're like, we're back and we're going to get everybody in this village. Just by the way, though, though, you might think out of revenge we'd nuke this facility from Orbis, this entire village, but we can't. We have to go down individually because they have grain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And we can't. If we destroy the village with our quantum laser beam or whatever, we'll destroy the grain. And we can't produce grain. No. We can bring a man back destroy the grain and we can't produce grain. No. We can bring a man back from the dead. Yeah. And we can like warp across the galaxy.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Using coal. Using coal and we've got giant lasers and, but we need grain. Yeah. We can't make grain. No. Or go somewhere else for grain. That's right. Also at the end he's just like, just shoot the grain.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Who gives a shit? Yeah. Oh my God, the grain. So people have talked about this. There's a very long and slow motion wheat threshing scene. That's right. Which I tell you what, if that was me, I would have slow motion hay fever just forever.
Starting point is 00:45:32 You know what is interesting as well? Just among that. In that recap you did from Jimmy the Robot or whatever his name is. Yeah. That is his name. He does say the empire, they demanded more from this village than they could provide. But they very conveniently say the grain.
Starting point is 00:45:47 They wanted too much grain, and this village only had some amount of grain. This works, I think, if you... If it's a Western? But even if it were just like a future Western on that planet, and it's some bandits and they're trekking... Well, that's the idea normally, right? Yeah, and it's like some and it's it's it's you know it's some bandits and yeah and they're true that's the idea normally right and it's like some space horses and they're trekking across and they're like we would like your grain please we'll be back in a week we'll be back in a week and it's
Starting point is 00:46:14 and it's worked in the three amigos you know and they're they're villainous and they're they're bandits but they're starving as well because they're and they're hungry for grain and they need it because otherwise they just wander out into the desert and die. These guys are in orbit. They can fly anywhere. Like it's such a stupid premise. It feels like it started, I think it came from one or two directions.
Starting point is 00:46:39 One, it started as a more earth level, like a ground level premise where it's, again, it is the- Well, it was a Star Wars pitch initially, yeah. Yeah, it's like these low level bandits besieging a town and then they expand it out to outer space. It's the Magnificent Seven, et cetera. And I think maybe, and potentially maybe the heroes, they went to different towns on this planet.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But then they're like, no, got to make it bigger. Or I wonder if the original premise was that this small rural village mined like an unobtainium style thing, like some sort of like valuable mineral that powers warp drives or something like that. But then somebody said, oh, like Avatar. And they went, no, we can't do that because it's like Avatar. Okay, so we'll say it's grain. And that's earthy, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:47:21 I mean, you could say space grain even. Space grain. It's fine, you know. I mean, okay, so just to come back to this. I also want to say just before we'll say it's grain. That's earthy, isn't it? I mean, you could say space grain even. Space grain. It's fine, you know? I mean, okay, so just to come back to this. I also want to say just before we get into it. Oh, we're not? Yeah, no. This movie has a bunch of like tropes and action beats
Starting point is 00:47:34 that you see in a bunch of movies. Yeah. And I think we're probably going to be critical of a bunch of stuff in this movie and people will probably respond to a bunch of it like, well, you know, all the Marvel movies have these tropes and, you know, a bunch of classic cinema has all these tropes. Some DC movies have them.
Starting point is 00:47:52 But the thing about it is they would be fun in a movie that is fun. Yeah. But this movie isn't fun. And like you said, it's the same character. Yeah. Yeah, well, so like there are tropes in this movie like, okay, well, there's going to be a countdown and the battleship is going to fire its main gun and destroy the village and, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:11 all the rest of the team of good guys, they're racing to get somewhere and they have to shut a thing down or, you know, blow up a generator or something like that. Fly into a canyon. And that's an absolute classic premise that I'm sure has been used in a bunch of Marvel movies and Star Wars movies. Sometimes in a Marvel movie they say that they're doing a Star Wars movie. Exactly, that's right.
Starting point is 00:48:31 But I think if we were on board with these characters and we cared about these characters, you'd be like, I'm on board with this. Yeah, exactly. There's a moment where two of the characters, they're like, okay, we're grossly outnumbered and we're we're gonna make a last stand against this huge army and they're there and they um darry and axe blood exactly and then they crest the hill and they're like it's gonna they're gonna be doomed another character
Starting point is 00:48:53 like jumps in you know and then he's on a griffin maybe yeah yeah exactly or like you know the the guy jumps in and they're like oh now we've got backup and this guy's cool and he's interesting i think they tried that with the robot you're forgetting they they did that. No, that's what I'm saying. The robot. Oh, okay, right. That's exactly what I'm saying. But it's like I don't care about any of these people. So it doesn't – if these two characters, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:49:15 well, these two are a couple of lovable rogues and they're different. This one looks sort of like Furiosa. Exactly. Like I'd be like, oh, God, either they make a sacrifice and I'm going to be sad that they're gone or something's going to turn around and they're going to win and I'm going to be happy for them. Yeah. But because I don't care.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Or know anything about them. It doesn't matter. I guess you know a surface level thing. It doesn't matter. Whether they bravely die in service of this battle or somebody shows up and is like, oh, you didn't expect me to be here, and then they turn the tide and they win, I don't care. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Because they're nothing characters. Absolutely. They've got all the characters are just a guy who is stoic and dour. Yeah, and he's somebody who you got hit with a space laser from space. Yeah, all there. We talked about it. They all sit around the table and they explain their backstories. After they get their presents.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Dog shit, by the way. Oh, a tapestry. Great. Oh, it's got the sun on it because I'm like the sun. This could be for any of us. This is generic. You made 12 of these with different pictures on them and you're just going.
Starting point is 00:50:18 You're like a space lion because you've got the heart of a space lion. Right, I'm going to roll that up and put it in one of my kitchen drawers and I'm going to find it when I move next. But also, okay, so Jumon Honsu, who is probably my favourite character in this because I like him so much. Because he's stoic and he's down. Yeah, so his backstory was that he ran one of those ships
Starting point is 00:50:38 and he refused to fire on a village. So they sat him down and they watched all his men from the imperialist Borealis get nuked from space. And he's like, no, but I'm also like, aren't all of these guys,
Starting point is 00:50:51 bad guys. Cause don't you go up later in the ship and you pretend to be dead. And then the medics come in and then you kill all the medics. Yeah. So which of these people are they bad or am I supposed to care? They're either like, yeah, like medics. they're either being forced
Starting point is 00:51:06 into the role of serving the Emperor even though they want to be out helping people and you've killed innocent people or they're evil doctors who are maybe performing evil experiments or whatever and you kill them and it's fine. So either way, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, so much of this, we see their origin. What I think is interesting, you know, speaking of, you know, tropes are tropes and every movie has to have these things.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You're quick with a trope, aren't you? Yeah, exactly. You know, it's how they pull them off. Like in the original Guardians of the Galaxy, which has something of a similar vibe to this, all the characters are going on their own adventures and they team up because their circumstances cross paths with one another. And their goals align.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah, exactly. And they're like, well, I guess we have to work together and then the action takes place. In this it's just like, well, they all got visited. They all got visited and they all had origins. None of their origins work together in any way. None of them used to be enemies but now they have to work together. Some might know each other.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I think the scar given knows Jumon Honsu, I think. Isn't that right? Well, there's probably a line where it's like, yeah, we used to. We used to do a thing together. Yeah, but I mean, none of it. And also, why is he a good guy? Because he left. Because some of them are probably good people who just haven't left yet.
Starting point is 00:52:22 That's probably true. But you can kill them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. One of my notes here is just the aesthetic is fucked i think i talked about this last time i don't remember there's a moment we get a flashback to the guy who was a prince and he rides the griffin and he's wearing like like a flat cap and a robe and there's like a griffin tackling a spaceship in a fucking cyberpunk city or whatever. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? Just a nightmare of ideas.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Just, do you know what I mean? Like it just all mushed together and there's no cohesion to it. It's just like, you know, what's cool. Fucking this kind of club. You know what's cool, Griffins. That's Zack Snyder's whole deal. It's like, you know, what's cool. And so much.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Everything at once. Everything at once. That's Zack Snyder's whole deal. It's like, you know what's cool? Everything at once. Everything at once. And so much of it is just slow motion. I'll tell you what else upset me about this movie.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Not upset. I mean, first of all, it's kind of lucky that these farmers are as good or better at fighting and shooting than, like, hundreds of professional soldiers. Oh, yeah. There's a scene where they're like, oh, well, we're going to teach you how to shoot. And the first farmer just gets out the gun and just bullseyes a bunch of... Oh, looks like you're all really good at this.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Now, here's how to fight with a close in. Oh, you're all very strong. Like, all the good guys are like these gun-fu ninjas, and all the bad guys are just nothing. I don't even think the choreography is great. No, it isn't.
Starting point is 00:53:43 It's not interesting fine right there's so many scenes of just a character walking through a corridor the good guys get this and ed screen gets this where they're just walking through a corridor and they just they just walk head twist yeah head to it and they just the the you know the the good guys employed the tactic of like walking through a corridor and shooting and the bad guys are like we don't how can we fight against this yeah they just all just cop a bunch of bullets. But then Ed Screen has a similar scene where he's just walking through a trench and he just shoves people aside and punches them
Starting point is 00:54:12 and they can't. It's not interesting. No, it's really not. Also, the battle starts at the first shot at an hour and five roughly. Right. And then there's various fighting going on. And they do split up and do various teams. There's a moment where you think they're like, we won, we did it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 The people on the ground, because they go do various things. We did it. And then they're like, oh, no, what's coming? It's a tank. Yeah. Like, it's a singular tank here. You probably got this. I mean, you got Jimmy the Robot, who also they've been kind of building up.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It's like a minute of him doing, like, karate or whatever. I don't care. Yeah. Well, he's spinning in a circle. He's spinning in a circle. Firing a gun. He's like, minute of him doing karate or whatever. I don't care. Well, he's spinning in a circle. He's spinning in a circle. Firing a gun. He's like, I'm actually going to fight. Yeah, we figured that out two movies ago. Maybe you could have done that before all our friends got killed.
Starting point is 00:54:56 All the disposable guys at the back, maybe. There's a moment why Jaimon Honsu's character, he's charging like a platoon of bad guys, of generic soldiers, and the first guy, he just grabs him and he like body slams, he flips him over and body slams him. Even though Honsu's got a gun and there's like 30 more guys. Because they could just shoot him while he's doing that. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:55:19 But I think that's one of those decisions made on the day where Zack Snyder's like with the stunt guys and he's like, hey, can you flip? Maybe you flip a guy and that'll look like a guy can you flip a guy yeah so what but so while on the ground stuff is happening the scar give it and her mate who does they go on sneaker board they because they pretend to be injured whatever and there's a moment where she just drops into like the engine room and there's just dudes shoveling fucking coal and i'm just like did you fucking think about do you don't even want to put like specks of green in it so it's like a
Starting point is 00:55:52 space fucking coal and it probably is yeah right there's probably a deep rich law or there isn't because really it's just like remember when they were shoveling coal in Titanic? What if that? Why would they have this? What are you doing? And again, in a better movie, I think this is common in a lot of bad stuff we talk about. In a better movie, it wouldn't bother me. No, of course not. It'd be like, oh, it's kind of fun. How does the engine work?
Starting point is 00:56:19 Doesn't really matter. They shovel coal because it's a throwback. But in this, you're like, if this movie is so fundamentally uninteresting and the characters are so fundamentally uninteresting that you start asking questions about this sort of stuff. Mm-hmm. Like, again, with the grain. With the grain, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:35 But also you can blow up the grain now because it's fine because the scar giver has come to them. And then you've got ten minutes for them to slowly crank the fucking wheel that lines up the – That's right. God damn. Ready to slowly crank the fucking wheel that lines up. That's right. Yeah. God damn. Ready to fire.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Well, then prepare to fire. Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. We're blinded. It's charged and ready to fire. Click, click, click, click, click, click. Again, if. Oh, no, it didn't. It blew up.
Starting point is 00:56:58 It did blow up. Somebody, I don't even remember. Somebody sabotaged it. Somebody set up a bomb. Yeah, don't worry about it. I don't even remember somebody sabotaged it somebody set up a bomb yeah don't worry about it
Starting point is 00:57:04 and the final showdown before Ed Scroon fights the Scargiver the dude her mate is from the village he's on a ship behind Ed Scroon and doesn't shoot
Starting point is 00:57:14 Ed Scroon like immediately he shoots the other guy you just you'd shoot him first right he's the guy she's fine
Starting point is 00:57:21 she's never been shot in her life it's not gonna to happen now. Not at the end of the movie. But, okay, the one action scene which I thought was all right was when they're sliding down the wall of the ship. Right. I didn't mind that.
Starting point is 00:57:35 The ship has mostly exploded. Yeah. And the Scargiver and Ed Skrinn, Admiral Noble, they're tumbling through a cargo area or whatever. And I'm like, well, Ed Skrin's got incredible super strength now. How is that going to play out in the final battle? It won't.
Starting point is 00:57:50 No. Because she's just better at fighting than him. She's better. She's always been better at fighting. She's got a haircut. She's never had a moment of doubt. She's super streamlined. No, remember, she's like, I think we should actually give them
Starting point is 00:58:00 all the grain or whatever. There's a moment of doubt, but then they all start kicking each other. Yeah, but it's never interesting. It's never like, well, how's she going to change her fighting style now that he is so super strong? Or got a sword or whatever. Doesn't change anything. No, doesn't really. Never at any
Starting point is 00:58:18 point. So there's moments in this where regular army officers, there's probably a ranking system of who gets a sword and who doesn't. Who gets a blue sword. See them, like, blocking bullets? I don't know what that is. Like, is this a magic? I mean, it is a magic universe because there's a magic
Starting point is 00:58:33 invincible princess who can come back from the dead. But why can you block bullets? Is it magnetized so it pulls in the bullets? That's actually a ground. That's good. You've justified it, and that's why. That's why, isn't it? Somebody's going to ask Zack Snyder why that is,
Starting point is 00:58:51 and he's going to be like, well, magnetize the bullets, and then they'll melt down on the laser blade or whatever. Could you believe, however, that she managed to beat Ed Skrun for the second time somehow? Yeah. How? Well, she's just better at fighting. But did you think she could do it twice?
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. Yeah, I did believe that. We didn't even see the beheading. No, that's true. We will, though, the R-rated version. I'm not watching this again. Any versions of this. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I cannot do that. God. Oh, the army shows up, the other army. It's like, I'm here. I'm from the other one again you could have shown up yep months ago that would have helped yeah um god i do want to talk about axe army yeah yeah i do want to talk about the future of all of this uh but if you've got any more many more notes you'd like to get into i don't think so just i've got some reviews here
Starting point is 00:59:39 bad and boring just nothing again i also we talked about this last time. I want like weird fucking Star Wars or whatever. Like I would love a universe where it's like this is fresh and unique or even it takes tropes and twists them. That's what I'm talking about, yeah. There's nothing in this. There's no edge to it either. There's nothing in this that is comparable to a Star Wars or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I mean except the stuff which is just Star Wars. This is less of a painful homage to all the other stuff though. That's how I felt. comparable to a Star Wars or anything like that. I mean, except the stuff which is just Star Wars. This is less of a painful homage to all the other stuff, though. That's how I felt. Less of this movie I went, oh, this is just Avatar, this is just Star Wars, this is just what have you. Yeah. But there's no scene in this where I went, oh, this is going to stay in like the – this is going to appear in a list
Starting point is 01:00:19 of all-time greatest sci-fi action scenes or whatever. You know, and just, again, talking about Star Wars, you know, the trench run. You think that Luke Skywalker is going to cop it. Yeah. He's going to cop it in the back of the head. God. But then our lovable Ro Khan solo shows up and you're like,
Starting point is 01:00:36 I love that. I love his character development and that's how we know he's going to come back. It's a trope and it's, you know, at this point it's so well worn, but it's based on the characters. It builds the tension. It builds the tension and then it pays off and you're like, yes, he's changed his evil ways.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Here's a thought. Picture a ship from this. Sort of a submarine? Yeah. Like where's the iconic kind of, what are the bad guys wear? I don't know, like a Ninja Turtle armour? I don't know. What colour is it? Brownish? Brownish greyish, yeah., what are the bad guys wear? I don't know, like a Ninja Turtle armor? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:06 What color is it? Brownish? Brownish grayish, yeah. Like what are the drop ships? I don't know, those kind of bug ships from Man of Steel kind of? They're sort of bug ships, aren't they? Like where's the, do you see what I'm saying? I do see what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Does the main battleship have a force field? Because when it blows up, I think it looks like the force field shuts down or something, but I don't recall it having a force field. Did anybody attack it directly? I don't know. Did anybody try? No, they went inside it, Mason. Yeah. Here's some reviews.
Starting point is 01:01:36 It's by C-Ray. He says, just woke up from watching Rebel Moon Part 2. Thank God for J'mon Honsu. I was knocked unconscious by it, by the spectacle. Thank God for J'mon Honsu. Otherwise, fuck that movie and fuck the director's cut for good measure. This universe is dead to me. Worst movie ever.
Starting point is 01:01:49 My goodness. Benson Maid said, did you watch Rebel Moon Part 2? Yes. He said, doesn't matter. Abigail? Oh, we just did. Abigail, Why Don't You Kidnap a Vampire was more fun. And Don't Miss Boy Kills Well next week about Bill Skarsgård voiced by Archer.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Is that next week? We should do that, actually. That's also the Fall Guy next week. Oh, we'll do one of those. One or the other. It's from WDimTV and Movie Breakdowns. He says, I thought Rebel Moon, The Sky Giver was the best movie ever. I don't know what people expected, but if you have ever seen a Zack Snyder film,
Starting point is 01:02:19 I think you expect things like singing and people yelling a lot. Jumon Honsu chews up the scenery once again. He's getting a lot of play here. Russell Michaels says, this movie is so boring for 40 minutes. Then there's a big flashback exposition dump that was blatantly stolen from book three of the Iron Druid Chronicles. And then a space laser gun, Magnificent Seven. Six more, WME.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Wow. Which is worst movie ever. I don't think Zack Snyder has stolen this from the Iron Druid, whatever. Again, I think it's probably they've just had a similar idea for an action sequence. Sure, yeah, yeah. And someone's pulled it off better than the other guy, I think. So you know about the future of this. Do you mind if we get into this a little bit? He said
Starting point is 01:02:55 something along the lines of, I think we could do six of these. Yeah, I reckon. Because he does two at a time. Yes. So here's what's going on, right? So this is the future. He said before that, also,, I mentioned this last time, he seems like a nice guy. He does, doesn't he? I don't take – I'm not like, ooh, finally fucking –
Starting point is 01:03:13 We got him. No, I don't like a lot of his movies also, really. He said it's a massive IP and a universe that can be built out. So we've got a novelization. Yeah, IP freely. Whoa. Novelization, a four-issue prequel comic entitled Rebel Moon, House of the Blood Axe.
Starting point is 01:03:27 There's a super evil megacorp that was developing a four-player co-op game that will be exclusively available at Netflix Games in 2023. Oh, my God. Those four players, they're going to have such a wealth of variety of weapons and moves. Everybody's going to be able to slow-mo and shoot a gun. In November of 2023, a narrative podcast, an animated comic book, and an animated series were announced to be in development,
Starting point is 01:03:52 with each project taking place chronologically before the feature films. There's an animated short that tells the story of Kali and the shadowy figures who power the Mother World's most dangerous technology. I don't know who that is. Snyder also announced in July of 2023 plans for a TV series focusing on the Bacillus. There's also a super...
Starting point is 01:04:10 Wait, who is that? I don't know. I'll give you $100 if you can tell me who that is. I can't. I'm going to give you 30 seconds to think about it. Is it the Emperor's... Is that them? Is it them?
Starting point is 01:04:20 Or is it a man? Is it the spider lady? No, that's a different thing. He has to look it up. He's forfeited. I am. Was it Regent Bac spider lady? No, that's a different thing. He has to look it up. He's forfeited. I am. Was it Regent Basilica?
Starting point is 01:04:29 Oh, he's the emperor. There you go. I didn't know that. Did you say four issues on? What did you say? What's he getting? I don't know. That was a miniseries or something. He's getting a miniseries.
Starting point is 01:04:38 It's the guy with the beard who goes, you betrayed the princess because you shot her. He's not a character that guy. No, he's the emperor. He's just a guy, that guy. You mean the guy and he's got the sort of guy. No, he's the Emperor Mason. He's just a guy, that guy. You mean the guy and he's got the sort of glassy eyes? Yeah, he's the guy. He's got a big braiding on his shoulders and he's like, you did it.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Yeah. No. Who is he? I don't know. What actor is that? I don't know. I don't know. Is he Zack Snyder's brother or something?
Starting point is 01:05:00 Yeah, he's Zack Snyder's brother. Wow. There's a super sexy extended R-rated cut. Forbes is saying, speaking of Forbes, that they're three hours each and it's going to be six hours in total. There's also, within that, there's going to be a graphic alien tentacle sex scene. Rebel Moon Part 3 is apparently
Starting point is 01:05:14 confirmed by Netflix. This is via Radio Times. As Zack Snyder said, I guess four makes sense. Four or six movies. Depending. I guess it's whether or not every time we make one of those movies, we make two. That's the question.
Starting point is 01:05:27 We were talking about it the other day, and I was like, would an audience be disappointed if they only got one movie now from Rebel Moon? Would they be like, oh, it's one now? Great. So, yeah. Great. But a third movie hasn't officially been confirmed by Netflix, apparently.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I think this is done. I don't know this. We don't have any streaming numbers. Netflix are also going to stop reporting streaming numbers or subscribers next year. Uh-huh, sure. There is no way that this would do better than the first one. If you didn't have to do this legally, would you have watched this?
Starting point is 01:06:01 I wouldn't have finished the first one. No, I would have stopped watching this ten minutes in probably. It's fascinating that it's just defend the village again. Yeah. Is that what the third one's going to be, just defend the village again? No, you go to the daughters and the emperor's there and he's like, they've got to go on an adventure. They've got to go on an adventure.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Can't wait until she kills that guy. I can't wait until they're like, the only way we're going to get into the palace and run down the corridors. I hope we can defeat his royal guard. We'll do it with slow-mo and guns. Yeah, man. And they'll be like, what is this? We've never experienced anything.
Starting point is 01:06:38 We've never left this room. None of you have left any rooms, it looks like. Yeah. It really feels that way. You were born in that room. There's not even a sequence where they go into a corridor and they're being besieged and there's a mounted gun turret or something like, how can I get around this creatively?
Starting point is 01:06:55 No, just keep walking and shooting and they won't know what to do. I'm going to counter that. Yes. There might be a sequence like that. I don't know. No, there might be. There might be on the battlefield at some point. I don't know. I think this movie was. I mean, the tank thing, I guess, is that. I don't know. No, there might be. There might be on the battlefield at some point. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:07 I think this movie was. I mean, the tank thing, I guess, is that. This movie looked realer than the last one. I think they made use of the village more. It felt more real locations when they were on Earth-ish or whatever. It felt like they built sets and stuff and was in a wheat field. Wow. Wow. God.
Starting point is 01:07:27 This is over, right? Like it's done. No, they're going to do three. I don't think so. That would be a crazy investment to make. But if they've already spent the money. Unless there's numbers here that we don't know about. I don't think they have.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Okay. I don't think, it hasn't been greenlit. I think they're just saying, look, we'll see how this goes. We'll say that we want to do more because then he's going to promote it. He's going to go out and do the interviews and whatever. Hashtag restore the Rebel Moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, but now, and if they, and I think we're just going to stop hearing about it
Starting point is 01:07:54 or hear less and less and we get asked in the interviews and be like, yeah, we got jumped on a call the other day and whatever. It's going to be that for the next five years. Yeah. That's what I think. I'd love to be wrong because who doesn't want to revisit the Rebel Moon-iverse? Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I don't make me. I don't want that anymore. God. Anyway, should we move it along? Let's move it along to what we're reading. Yeah. What we're going to read. Doesn't feel good, Mason.
Starting point is 01:08:18 No. Awful. I watched it Saturday night. I could have been out doing anything. That's one of the last nights of the comedy festival. Yeah. My God. I'm doing Saturday night. I could have been out doing anything. That's one of the last nights of the comedy festival. Yeah. My God. I'm doing a thing.
Starting point is 01:08:33 What are we reading today? I'm Batman. That's a famous character I was doing in between segments. I love that. That was good. Batman. Yep, absolutely. Mason, this is the part of the show where we talk about what we have read
Starting point is 01:08:48 or watched or going to. Let me quickly just say I bought a ticket for Late Night with the Devil. I'm like, I'm going to see Late Night with the Devil. Go on. And what did he think of it? And then he was like, ha, ha, ha. I was really excited. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:00 So I went down, went to the cinema. No one was there, so I just walked through, got my seat, I'm like, huh, there's too many Seats in this row than what it says on my ticket Turns out, I bought A ticket to the wrong cinema And the cinema that I went to, it wasn't playing So I haven't seen Late Night with the Devil But I have paid for a ticket
Starting point is 01:09:17 It is out on streaming this weekend Or last weekend I think it is on Shudder, so I will watch it But anyway, it's good to support local theatre. I think so too. Even if you go home because they started playing the movie Civil War and you went, oh, I've seen this. That's exactly right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Oh, interestingly, our friend Alexei Toliopoulos on his show, his podcast, The Last Video Store, he's got an interview with David Dastramalchian. Oh, that's right. Yes, yes, yes. I haven't listened to that yet, but I bet it's interesting. That's cool, man. I'm looking forward to watching that. Otherwise, that's right. Yes, yes, yes. I haven't listened to that yet, but I bet it's interesting. That's cool, man. I'm looking forward to watching that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 But otherwise, after I watched Rebel Moon Part 2, I realised that Mission Impossible Part 7, Dead Reckoning Part 1 is on streaming now. Just free on streaming, so I watched that. Mike, as a real palate cleanser, I watched that. You watched a good movie. I did watch a good movie. And, again, this is the first time I've watched it since the cinema.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And, again, I think our opinion of that one sort of holds true still. It's not the best of the Mission Impossible movies. Pretty good, though. But I think it was still pretty good. Yeah. Good, fun action set pieces that you remember. What if AI was going to get Tom Cruise? But it won't, though.
Starting point is 01:10:20 No. Because he's got the power of friendship. And a parachute. Yep. And he's ready. That's right. I saw an interview with Rebecca Ferguson this week where she was asked about doing those movies and leaving the got the power of friendship. And a parachute. Yep. And he's ready. That's right. I saw an interview with Rebecca Ferguson this week where she was asked about doing those movies
Starting point is 01:10:27 and leaving the franchise and all of that. And she said they're really exciting to do and whatever, but it's a lot because they keep expanding and the character expanding. You just sit around for months waiting for your thing to happen and you kind of don't know when it's going to happen. Sure, okay. And it's like this incredible adrenaline rush
Starting point is 01:10:42 when you get to do the thing and whatever. But she's like, I've shot like two TV shows in between. Right, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:53 On Dune all I have to do is wear a veil. And someone goes, hmm. And you go, oh, the prophecy. That's right. And then you leave. Cash you check. I mean, look at Rebel Moon Part 2 compared to Dune Part 2. Part 2, right?
Starting point is 01:11:06 Come on, man. That's something we should have brought up in our review. Yeah. Now we haven't. Now we haven't, but it's too late. But guess what? Dune Part 2 is better. Yeah, it's probably a little bit better.
Starting point is 01:11:15 It's a little bit better in many ways. But it is an adaptation. Yeah. They're just using existing stuff. I want original stuff, Mason. But again, a lot of the Dune stuff is original because they've changed stuff from the books. No, not good enough.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I want a completely fresh idea. Rebel Moon Part 2? Yes. Nice. Speaking of completely fresh ideas, we wanted to give a quick talk about Fallout. Let's do a quick talk about. On Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 01:11:40 That's right. Which was woke, but then it came out and it did really well and people like it, so it's not woke anymore. That's good. Thank God. Yeah, absolutely. Terrific. Now, you finished it?
Starting point is 01:11:49 I also finished it. Yeah. What I would say is that Jonathan Nolan, who created this and he also created Westworld, boy, he really loves a guy who exists in two time periods at once, don't you? Oh, my God. That's his favourite thing in the world to do. It is, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:12:06 And then to tie them together towards the end. Do you think this is going to Westworld season two in season two of this? By that you mean people really like the first season and none of the other seasons? They're going to stagger the episodes, Nick. It's been confirmed. They're going to stagger them, I reckon.
Starting point is 01:12:19 There's no way. I was so surprised that all the episodes dropped at once. Well, we're talking about this now, but I also feel like we're too late to talk about it. Like this is, people have watched it. Everyone talked about it the day it came out. You know, it's, yeah, everybody churned through it and just, you know, talked about the finale and what have you
Starting point is 01:12:36 in the first day and we're late. Yeah, absolutely. But it's good. It's a good series. A lot of fun. It's set in the gaming continuity apparently, but apparently some of the timeline stuff doesn't hold up and that's maybe the reason why it's not very good actually.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I don't give a shit at all. I don't care if it completely wipes out all the existing continuity. Nothing matters. The complaint I heard was that some element of the closing title sequences suggests that New Vegasgas which is the the uh setting of fallout new vegas has been destroyed so we can't see anything that doesn't make i hate that then yeah but i mean they can just i'm angry yeah maybe there's a even newer vegas there might be an even newer vegas yeah look i like the characters i i like the big clunky
Starting point is 01:13:22 suits yep absolutely i like that they seem for the most part practical like it's someone in stilts like when you see someone with like a big thanos costume absolutely yes like a normal sized person in an oversized suit and whatever sure i like that the ghoul is great of course um yeah the good face could be goopier as well i'm saying yeah but he's dry he's a dry ghoul we talked about this yeah that's true i guess yeah yeah um because a lot of the lore from this universe like like, I don't know. I know when, like, a gun or a wrist thing turns up, people are like, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah, I guess I assumed that this was a parallel universe where it branched off in the 1950s, like that our universe was the same, but it's not. It's not? It doesn't seem that way, no. Because it's already the flashback sequence is set in. It's already the future. It's already the future, yeah. Their TVs are bad but it's not. It's not? It doesn't seem that way, no. Because it's already, the flashback sequence is set in. It's already the future. It's already the future, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Their TVs are bad. That's right. For some reason again. Anyway, this is good analysis, I think. I completely agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kyle MacLachlan's in this as well. That's true.
Starting point is 01:14:16 It was a lot of fun. I think, yeah, just, it also feels like there is a strange, like, surreal reality to it when you're in the bunker and some of the weaponry and the armour. It looks, like, too polished and too neat and nice. But then you also go into the real world and it's awful. So I think it really balances those things well. And the lead, who I cannot remember the name.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Ella Permel. Yeah, she's great. And just watching her character, like, evolve. She could have been a live-action battle angel Alita. Sure. Because she's got the giant eyes. Giant battle angel eyes, yeah. Aaron Clifton Moten is really good as Maximus as well.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Yeah, just, I don't know, what else do you want to say, Mason? It's nice to see Michael Rappaport get mauled by a bear. Oh, yeah, that was good, wasn't it? Bit of fun. That's fun. A lot of interesting creature designs. Yeah. And, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:06 There's a gooey kind of axolotl giant kind of situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the mystery of it unfolding as well and, like, how the bolts are connected and how this all kind of unfolded. What I also liked is even though it was only eight episodes, there was enough time for what some people would probably call filler episodes, just sort of like side adventures. There's an episode where the two leads find themselves in another bunker where they're
Starting point is 01:15:33 like, oh, this actually would be a nice place to settle down. And it turns out everybody's in a weird cult. Yeah. But also. And what's his name? And he's got one eye. Yeah. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:15:44 That is Chris Parnell, I think. Yes, that's right. Yeah. And he's got one eye Yeah That is Chris Parnell Yes, that's right And he's in Archer, isn't he? He sure is I enjoyed all of that Sometimes everything is a conspiracy But sometimes it's not I think
Starting point is 01:15:58 It's also It's gooey and gory when it needs to be And all of that Unlike some other movies slash TV shows we can think of, Rebel Moon Part 2, The Scargiver, where you see a guy, he gets beheaded, but you don't even say it. It's not even gooey or gory. It's not even gooey or gory.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Yeah. Look, we probably should have done a full episode on this. We haven't, but that's Rebel Moon 2's fault. That's right. You can direct all your correspondence to Netflix. You can go onto Vero, Zach Snyder's social media site, and you can tell him, don't actually do this. Don't actually go to him and say,
Starting point is 01:16:29 I would have liked to hear the Weekly Planet talk about Fallout for an episode, but they had to watch Rebelman Part 2. That would be rude of you. Yeah, that's right. Even though it is true. But he doesn't need to hear the truth. No. He needs to hear people say that they loved his slow-mo
Starting point is 01:16:46 and to do a third one, a third and a fourth one. Please, we would love that. If he shoots two movies back-to-back, he can then split those movies into an additional two movies. That's exactly right. Easy down. The Rudder editions. The Rudder editions, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:58 All right, should we move it along? Anything else? No. I mean, The Irradiated Bear's great. You mentioned creatures and... Yeah. Oh, I did read. I read a comic great. You mentioned like creatures and – Yeah. Oh, I did read. I read a comic book.
Starting point is 01:17:07 It's Roxxon Presents Thor. Okay. What, does he work for them? What is that? No, Roxxon – so in the Marvel Universe, the Roxxon Corporation is an evil – Yep. All-purpose evil corporation. They're polluters.
Starting point is 01:17:20 They're the worst of everything. Oh, yeah. And they're also – their CEO is Dario Aga who's the Minotaur. He's a mystical Minotaur. Okay. I don't know if you remember that. When they were casting Thor Love and Thunder, a lot of people suggested that Christian Bale might have been that character
Starting point is 01:17:36 because he's like a slick 80s businessman but he's also a Minotaur. Oh, that's right. We've been talking about it, yeah. But in this series, the bad guys have decided to get revenge on Thor by purchasing all the rights to the Thor comic books in the Marvel Universe because there's – Oh, okay. And they've built their own Thor who's like a Roxxon puppet. Is he a superhuman dude?
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yes, he is, yeah. Or is he a robot Thor like there has been prior? No, he's a dude. He's a dude? He's a dude. But it's by Al Ewing who did a series that I really like called The Ultimates. Not that Ultimates but another Ultimates. Not the current Ultimates and not the original Ultimates
Starting point is 01:18:10 but a big period Ultimates that nobody else besides me has read apparently but it's good. But I like his work. It's a bit meta and I love the fact that they've involved because there's a real Marvel Comics in the Marvel Universe. Yeah, right. That make comics. So if you've got a hidden identity in the Marvel universe,
Starting point is 01:18:25 like you're Spider-Man and people don't know that Peter Parker and there's a Spider-Man comic, is it just about Spider-Man? A guy, yeah. And I guess you never, yeah, in the comics, I guess you never see his real identity in the comic books, I guess. Yeah. I don't like that. No, I don't like it either.
Starting point is 01:18:40 It's rude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. All right. Well, that's everything we've ever done. That's exactly right. But not everything. Oh, now it's time for letters. You've got Well, that's everything we've ever done. That's exactly right. But not everything. Oh, now it's time for letters.
Starting point is 01:18:47 You've got to play that letters theme from your phone. I've got to play the letters theme. The classic one was letters, oh, letters. Can you clap with me or you can't because you're holding your phone? They're only a day away. It's over here right now. We're going to do letters. We did it, I think.
Starting point is 01:19:05 If you do want to reach the show. Oh, settle, I think. If you do want to reach the show. Oh, settle down, everyone. If you do want to reach the show. Folks, please. Also, thanks to everybody who popped in for the Do Go Online show. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I was there too, wasn't I? You weren't there. How was it? It was good. Good fun. I was there. I remember. You weren't there.
Starting point is 01:19:18 We weren't there. What was the crowd like? Were they hooting and hollering? They were hooting and hollering. Did they shut up when they needed to? No. They were rude. They ran us out of they needed to? No. They were rude.
Starting point is 01:19:26 They ran us out of town. What? Yeah, that's right. No, they were good. The show did sell out in the end. Yeah, thank God. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Embarrassing if not. Very, very fun time. So thanks everybody for coming out and saying hi and this is all good. Absolutely. Good stuff.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Anyway, if you do want to reach the show, you can hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter. That's right. Or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com if you want to send a Gmail. There's so much going on this week, Mason.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Do you have any Gmails? Yes, here's an email from Soybeans. Soybeans. Love the podcast. You silly goofballs make me smile through my tears of writing a master's thesis. Oh, tears because you're sadly writing a master's thesis? It seems that way. In conclusion.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Scientific method. You've got to do something you love. You never want to die in your life. Yeah, that's right. Climate change, the world's ending. Get over it. Get over it. Get over it.
Starting point is 01:20:15 We're over it. Yeah. We don't even care anymore. That's right. We've got content to watch. I've always wondered what is, in fact, the worst thing you guys have ever watched for the podcast. Can't wait to listen to you guys have a bit of a rant on Rebel
Starting point is 01:20:27 Moon Part 2. Could not be bothered to watch it through the first five minutes myself. Best regards and all that. Madam Web was really bad. It strikes me as a reason. I think Morbius was worse though because it's boring. Well see that's the thing. I think that I don't know if I have a definitive answer for this but
Starting point is 01:20:43 I would say that it is way better to have something that is atrocious on the podcast that we can trash as opposed to just, well, this was okay, I guess. Those are the worst things to watch. They are, yeah. Yeah. Bloodshot. Boring.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Bloodshot was boring. Yeah. That's right. But sorry, go on. Like at least Rebel Moon has a lot of stuff that is inexplicable that we can talk. Like if it's just a competently made movie that doesn't surprise you in any way, that is a bad thing to watch.
Starting point is 01:21:15 I completely agree with that. But the thing about that is also you forget that they exist. Yeah, you don't know. Bloodshot, that's one of them, isn't it? That certainly is one of them. I think of a second one. Right? See, that's the thing. They just disappear. Yeah. Bloodshot. That's one of them, isn't it? That certainly is one of them. I think of a second one. Right? See, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:21:26 They just disappear. Yeah. They just disappear. What's another one? What did we watch that wasn't Avatar, the TV series? Oh, yeah. I don't like it. Yeah, I remember a little bit more of that.
Starting point is 01:21:37 I don't like it. That's not the worst thing by any means, but it fits in that category. I thought it was. It's competently made for the most part, but it did not grab me. And maybe if I love that series, maybe it would have grabbed me. No, well, I love that series and it didn't grab me. Oh, well, well, well, well, well. God, I'm just going through my Ghostbusters.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Okay, right. Yeah. Look, I can certainly see, especially the first reboot, the afterlife one. I could see how you'd be like, this doesn't have anything for me to grab onto. Yeah, okay, yeah. And you love grabbing onto stuff, don't you? That's right, yep.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Yeah. God, I'm just going through the list here. Flash. You know what, Little Mermaid? Like, nothing. That was nothing. God. You know what?
Starting point is 01:22:20 That would be my answer. It would be a Lion King live-action reboot, something like that. Yeah. Because it doesn't have anything for me to grab onto. It is, I guess, competently made, but all I can really say about it is. I've actually forgot. What are we actually talking about? Like what was the property?
Starting point is 01:22:35 What's the worst thing we ever talked about? No, no. What was the thing that you were just talking about then? Because I forgot. Avatar. Okay. No. The other thing.
Starting point is 01:22:41 You were talking about we were on to something else, weren't we? Nope. I thought we said another thing just then. God, I ain't fucking. This is The other thing. You were talking about we were on to something else, weren't we? Nope. I thought we said another thing just then. God, I ain't fucking. This is hard, Mason. It is, right? It's hard. Have you Googled forgettable things?
Starting point is 01:22:52 No, I'm going through our old episodes. Right. No, because I said the Little Mermaid. That's what I said. Yes, that's exactly. That's how we got there. You did say the Little Mermaid. God, I had to go back to the episodes and figure it out.
Starting point is 01:23:03 I mean, to me, that is the prime example. I don't look forward to watching those. Your Lion King. Aladdin was an exception, but your Lion King, Your Little Mermaid, et cetera, because they are, I would say, competently made. Yep. And it's the thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:23:18 It's the thing. Like, it's the thing. You recognize the thing. I do recognize the thing, but it's not going to be like, whoa, this has blown my mind. Yeah. look at this new sequence in it yeah it's not gonna happen so that's why i like i just come across our don't worry darling episode yeah we're like no that movie does not work really but at least it's interesting that's right there you go see for example light year dreadful no i'm, I'm just going back through time and looking through different things.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Speaking of, that one, Ryan Reynolds' time travel fighter pilot. Okay. That one. That's competently made. His dad's a thing in the whatever. His dad's a thing in the whatever. But I don't think we will ever nail down what is the worst thing. No.
Starting point is 01:24:01 But for me it would be in that channel there somewhere. Yeah. Well made forgettable. No. But for me it would be in that, it's in that channel there somewhere. Yeah. Well made forgettable. Yep. Maybe some of those new Halloween movies, but which ones I don't know. Anyway. It's enough of that. Let's do this tweet that I've got, Mason, from Tommy West, who says Hashtag Weekly Planet Pod. Have you guys watched the Icons Unearthed Batman
Starting point is 01:24:20 series on Vice? I've never heard of this. No, never. I was fascinated by it. It'd be great to see Patrick Stewart as a Shakespearean Mr. Freeze. What is this? It's a series and something. Oh, okay. It hasn't got that many views.
Starting point is 01:24:36 It's just about the history of various Batmans happening. Oh, that's fun. I'll check it out. I'll put it in my watch next. Chad says, you might have seen this. It's an article from Kotaku titled, First AI-generated romance film looks like shit. And here's the tweet.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Okay, I did see some stills from that. Article might be worth a quick read, assuming you haven't heard of it already. The first fully AI-generated film is releasing sometime this summer. And man, if watching that trailer doesn't make my skin crawl. Do you want to quickly just have a look at it together? I've seen some of the stills. I haven't watched it in live action.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Would you like to do that with me right now? Yeah, let's do that together. It's just smooth people looking at the camera. It's fucking awful. Yeah, here we go. So, Claire, what's your stuff? It's like Don Johnson. The city of lights.
Starting point is 01:25:26 I'm hoping it's a new start. I don't think we have to pray for long. This song is AI generated. Dark, mysterious kind of man who never shows his vulnerability. Gotta see me with the way it is. God, I fucking hate this. Never sure what you want. They don't even look the same scene to scene.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Wow. Wow. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Wait, don't tell me you're done. Unbelievable. But every time and just right. That's plenty of love. Why did the clock just spring forward five minutes?
Starting point is 01:26:11 I'm not going to let you go. Wow. Terrible. Awful. Nothing. Means nothing. But I mean, sure, all actors should now quit because they've been superseded by a completely blank-faced woman going,
Starting point is 01:26:27 no, don't go. But her mouth's not moving sometimes. Yeah, great. Wasn't that the worst thing you've ever seen? That's awful. It was also worse than I thought it was going to be. Yeah. Remember the bit where they were walking?
Starting point is 01:26:42 Oh, I remember the bit where they were walking. You know what I loved about that is that there wasn't any semblance of what is the plot. What is it? What is the plot? Like what is – from what I could tell, they meet on a train and they're both going to Paris and then they go to Paris. But you only know that because of the title, aren't you?
Starting point is 01:27:00 No, and then they walk on a bridge in Paris and then – Don't go. Then one of them has to go and then they get on a bridge in Paris and then one of them has to go and then they get on a motorcycle and then she says, don't go, and then they're back together again. And there's lots of shots of different trains. Yeah. Hated that. Hated it. And look, it'll get better.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Yeah, technologically it'll get better. But you still need creative concepts. I don't know. You don't? I wouldn't. I just. I was even looking at that and thinking, do we do a movie commentary on that?
Starting point is 01:27:34 But what would you even do? What would you even say? Exactly. I think there would be a lot of silence from us. Yeah. It's like, this isn't anything. Is it going to be an hour? Two hours?
Starting point is 01:27:42 Surely not. Surely that's like. 20 minutes. You'd think. Maybe you could churn Surely not. Surely that's like. 20 minutes. You'd think. Maybe you could churn that out. God. Ugh. You feel that?
Starting point is 01:27:50 Yeah. Yuck. Yucky. It just, you know what it does? And here's the thing as well, like I don't think that could sustain more than that. Like more than the minute that that trailer took. Because you look at the, I guess that evokes – if you switch your brain off, it evokes images and you go, oh, Paris, that seems nice.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Oh, you know, out in Paris at night, that's nice. You can – oh, you know, the experience and the food and travel and, oh, what if you had some romance? Okay, that's nice. Like it just evokes just that part of your brain and it's like, well, it's nice. Yeah. That could be nice, but it doesn't, that's not anything.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Sick. Yeah, that's right. What next, Mason? Here's an email. This is from Emmanuel. Emmanuel. Hey, guys, love the pod and every single caravan of garbage Mason guesses the Joker movie quiz video you do.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Oh, yeah, those are good, aren't they? We also like those. Those are good. I recently saw a coming-of- the Joker movie quiz video you do. Oh, yeah. Those are good, aren't they? We also like those. Those are good. I recently saw a coming-of-age movie named Snack Shack while preparing to move out for the first time, and it made me curious if you guys had any favorites from that genre, coming-of-age. Snack Shack. No, coming-of-age movies.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Movies called Snack Shack. I really like Adventureland. Adventureland's good. It's got Ryan Reynolds. Speaking of that Ryan Reynolds, that's a good one. And Kristen Stewart. Did we talk about this recently? We might have.
Starting point is 01:29:08 So it's Kristen Stewart and Jesse Eisenberg. Jesse Eisenberg. That's a good one, I think. Evokes that era. Oh, yeah. Boy, that's a good one. That's the first, is it the first Aiko Atedi movie? Stand By Me.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Age of 17's good. Super Bad's great. Have you seen The Way Way Back? I think that one's quite good. Which one's that? Stand By Me. Age of 17's good. Super Bad's great. Have you seen The Way, Way Back? I think that one's quite good. Which one's that? That one is. Is that with Steve Carell? No.
Starting point is 01:29:32 No, it is with Steve Carell. Yeah, The Way, Way Back is good. Is that the one that's got Ryan Reynolds in it? No, that's got Sam Rockwell. It's got Sam Rockwell in it, yeah. Sam Rockwell. Yeah, that's a good Sam Rockwell, I reckon. Well, Bend It Like Beckham, that is a good one too.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Turning Red, that's a good one. Juno is a good one. Okay, what's your favourite? Mine's still Rockwell, I reckon. Well, Bend It Like Beckham, that is a good one too. Turning Red, that's a good one. Juno is a good one. Okay, what's your favourite? Mine's still Adventureland, I think. Mine's probably maybe Boy. Do you really like Dead Pilot Society? I mean, Stand By Me. I'm just going to say Stand By Me.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Stand By Me is the, yeah, I mean. Or Superbad. Stand By Me stands the test of time because I had to see that in school. Yeah. But it's still good. It's. Yeah. It's still good. It's still good. It's still good. Wow.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Imagine seeing something and it's still good. Right. Can you imagine? I honestly can't imagine that. I agree. What else have I got here, Mason? I've got one more. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Go for it. It's from Mandaman. Welcome back. It says, hashtag with the planet pod. Mates, I'm having a really rough go of it this week, but no matter how cloudy the day, you boys are always that little ray of sunshine. To cheer me up, can you tell me the best thing that happened
Starting point is 01:30:28 to you this month? Ooh, cheers, mates. Thank you for the warm sunshine. I saw my son do cross-country, and he did really well. He didn't win because he wants to win, not me, and not him, it turned out. He didn't want it badly enough. But it was just seeing him do it and not stop and just like, it was like, that was great.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Yeah. Good job. I mean, he didn't win, did he? No, he didn't win. That's right. That's why I'm mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What about you?
Starting point is 01:30:52 Well, the comedy festival's on and that's my favourite time of year, just enjoying that generally. Ran into our friend Michael Williams. Oh, yeah. Just on the street. We had a slice of pizza. We didn't share a slice of pizza. We didn't do it Lady and the Tramp style.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Why not? Because that would be weird. Yeah. We got separate slices of pizza. That's very good. We just had a nice chat and it was a great time. That's cool. Lovely time catching up with people.
Starting point is 01:31:09 I'd never met him but Xavier Michaelides, I just happened to run into him the other night when I was in the city. That was cool to meet him. And I was like, I know and like you. And he's like, I know who you are. He didn't say he liked me. Wow. Check out his, we talked about this, his Instagram.
Starting point is 01:31:21 One of the things he's doing at the moment is Bunnings commercials with face replacement. They're very good. Yeah, they're very, very good, as I told him. But he wouldn't listen. That's right. He just kept saying, I know who you are. I know who you are. Here's one more email from Garrett. Garrett. Long time listener, second
Starting point is 01:31:38 time writer. Wow. Thought about this a while ago, but the recent Mad Max Caravan of Garbage made me think of it again. James Bond and Mad Max both switch out the lead actor and allows them to just keep pumping out movies with the new guys. Agreed. Why didn't Indiana Jones do this? Yep, agreed. Two questions.
Starting point is 01:31:52 One, if Indiana Jones switched actors, who would you like to see? Number two, what other movie franchises would work well under this model? I'm just going to say someone new for Indiana Jones. Don't take an existing actor. New guy. New guy. But Scott Eastwood, obviously. What about you?
Starting point is 01:32:07 Oh, 100% Scott Eastwood, yeah. Who would you choose? Could you swap out Ethan Hunt or just go to another Mission Impossible now? I don't think you could swap out Ethan Hunt. But you could go to another Mission Impossible now. I think you could do, yeah, I think, I mean, I don't know a specific actor, but I think you could do. Sherlock, obviously.
Starting point is 01:32:24 You could Sherlock. I mean, they do that. Sherlock forever. Doctor Who, they could keep replacing the lead actor. They could keep replacing. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. I think if they wanted to replace, I think Mission Impossible franchise
Starting point is 01:32:34 would be a tough call. You couldn't replace Ethan Hunt. You could do a new guy, but you would. But he's got an Ethan Hunt mask. Yeah, but can you replace a series that has insane stunts with maybe that has less insane stunts? Oh, I see what you're saying. Because the linchpin is Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 01:32:51 The linchpin is Tom Cruise. Interesting. There are other interesting action sequences, but I think when you go to a Mission Impossible movie, you want at least one insane stunt. Yeah. And Scott Eastwood wouldn't do that, would he? Well, I mean, you get, I mean, but, you know, as is tradition, you could get a stunt guy
Starting point is 01:33:07 to do it, but is it the same? Yeah, okay. You know, is the appeal that they do an insane stunt or is the appeal that an actor does an insane stunt? Okay, I see what you're saying, yeah. You get maybe like a Hong Kong action guy. Oh, okay. To do a crazy thing.
Starting point is 01:33:20 That would be cool to do. You get like a Scott Adsit. Wait, is that his name? Adkins? No, that's the guy from 30 Rock. You don't get the guy from 30 Rock. You don't? You get Scott Adkins.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Yeah, you would, wouldn't you? You know that guy? He's a martial artist, actor, stunt guy. He's a Batman. Somebody like that I reckon you could get in. He's a Batman. Yeah, okay, fair enough. But then you need everything else that comes with that.
Starting point is 01:33:39 What about if they swapped out Jake Extraction? Would you be okay with that? No. For the Witcher's brother. No. For the guy who's replacing the Witcher, which is his brother? Yeah. No, I don't think you do.
Starting point is 01:33:48 You don't like that? No, I don't like that at all. What if you swapped out the cast of Sideways? Thomas Hayden shirts and Paul Giamatti for different Sideways guys? Yeah. For two different drunks? Yeah. I guess you could do that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Yeah, man. You'd get Paul Meskell and, oh, you know what? You'd get Paul Meskell and Andrew Scott as two drunks. Two different drunks yeah i guess you could do that yeah yeah man you'd get paul meskel and oh you know what you get paul meskel and andrew scott as two drunks two different drugs i would love that sideways two same universe earth different winery and they're drunk i wish i had like what's an ongoing series that you could whatever you know what'd be cool fifth element again but like different director yeah oh yeah different director oh yeah oh yeah i forgot okay all right all right You know what would be cool? Fifth Element again, but like. Different director. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Different director. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:26 I forgot. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I was going to say Spider-Man, but they do that anyway, don't they? They just make a new universe. But again, I think the problem is, as we've discussed when we talked about, you know, Star Wars, you know, new Star Wars TV especially, and your Indiana Joneses, et cetera, these big companies, they don't want more stars because stars have demands, stars have big paychecks, stars have agents who want more and more. They don't want that. They want the character to survive and it's.
Starting point is 01:35:00 What would you do with Die Hard then? Oh. Because obviously Bruce Willis is having multiple health issues. Like that's done. Who was his son? Was it Jai Kordner? Jai Kordner, yeah. See, I like Jai Kordner.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Yeah, same. I do as well. But I don't think people are flocking to a Die Hard. No. Because I think what you would do there. They didn't flock to the last one, did they? Yeah. You would want, I think you would want a supporting character from a Die Hard to replace existing, you know, it's the same universe, Earth.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Yes. But it's another person who keeps getting into diehard situations. They're always getting dieharded. So Steven Seagal. Yes. Yes. But I don't think they've, the problem is they didn't really establish a new character that could get into those scrapes.
Starting point is 01:35:43 No. I mean, you just recast. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So you just be like, this is John McClane. Scott Adkins. Scott Adkins. Or Scott Adsit, whichever.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Scott Adsit, yes, very good. All right, is that it? That's the whole show, folks. Great. Thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. I hope you enjoyed. Imagine if they replaced Tom Holland's Uncharted.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Can you imagine? I cannot imagine. How do you replace such an iconic character? Scott Adkins. Yeah, that's actually. Again, he looks, that's a guy who looks like Nathan Drake. He does. And he's good at stunts and stuff and martial arts and what have you.
Starting point is 01:36:13 And you just rename it. If you're like, that's not Nathan Drake, you go, well, this is Drake and Nath. Drake and Nath. Sounds like a Nickelodeon show. It's Drake and Nath that do stunts. Thank you so much for listening. We appreciate it. I hope you enjoyed watching and discussing Rebel Moon Part 2,
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Starting point is 01:38:52 Yeah, we'll probably have to be the Fall Guy. You could buy tickets to both and then both times show up at the wrong cinema. Oh, yeah, I could. Not see either, but pay for both. That is a thing I like to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only way you can top. You know, you did a stunt this week. Yeah. That's the only way you can top. You know, you did a stunt this week.
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