The Weekly Planet - 536 Twisters & Despicable Me 4 (with Sanspants Radio)

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

This week we're talking two big movies with both the legacy sequel Twisters and Despicable Me 4 with the help of Jackson Bailey and Joel Duscher from Sanspants radio. We also talk the passing of a legend in Shelly Duvall, trailers for Agatha All Along Trailer, Watchmen Chapter and Gladiator 2, a Shrek 5 announcement, Deadpool & Wolverine First Reactions and the future of Kevin Costners Horizon: An American Saga. Thanks for listening!More UK Tour Dates Added for The Weekly Planet x Sanspants in September! Tickets here: https://www.sanspantsradio.com/events/list/Live Streaming Tix for London Shows: https://www.kingsplace.co.uk/whats-on/comedy/the-weekly-planet-online-streaming/New episode of James & Maso's Time Crapsule podcast out now! Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.00:00 The Start04:01 RIP Shelly Duvall06:28 Trailers Ahoy07:08 Agatha All Along Trailer08:59 Watchmen Chapter 1 Trailer11:12 Gladiator 2 Trailer16:21 Shrek 5 Announcement17:38 Deadpool & Wolverine First Reactions (no spoilers)20:43 Horizon: An American Saga - Chapter 2 Loses Cinema Release23:41 Despicable Me 4 Spoiler Review with Sanspants Radio53:37 Twisters Review with Nick Mason01:06:06 Twisters Spoilers Segment01:15:06 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:08:28 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. Sunday and with me as always my co-host Nick Mason. Who can play at that game? Oh Now you're talking my language That's what this was this whole time you were trying to know you're trying to bridge I like how I finally caught on an hour like we're bridging the gap of friendship We're not bridging the gap. We clinked our bottles of beer didn't we? I don't feel anything Doesn't matter because I cannot see inside your soul, but I felt friendship. Well, that's good. I'm really glad that's what this podcast all about It's friendship feeling friendship and looking at a movie and go I thought it was pretty good

But I'm got some I've got some reservations about a small part of it and I'm mad oh yeah that's very true Mason and then people go why did you hate it I said I didn't hate it you know absolutely oh the dog just wants to get out oh well Ollie we brought you in we brought you in as part of friendship club and now you want to leave it's cold out there Ollie this isn't friendship club you need to know that this is friendship club this iship Club for men and dogs. So we've got some news this week most of course. I want to talk about some tour dates because of course I'm going to the UK with some Sands Pants fellows.

That's right. Who will not be. You insisted in fact. That's right. But before I get into that. I said which Sands Pants guys? Those guys? I don't know. We're also going to talk about the passing of Shelley Duvall. We've got trailers for Agatha All Along, Watchmen Chapter 1 and Gladiator 2.

Cruise Control? Shrek is back! Cruise Control. Yep. Gladiator 2, Cruise Control. That's right. We're going to talk about the first reactions to Deadpool and Wolverine, or at least the first 35 minutes that they showed or something.

Bad news, but all maybe good news for Horizon and American Sagas Chapters 1 and 2. Okay. Then we're gonna be talking Well, hopefully you can step out for this because I want to talk about the movie Despicable Me 4 with other people Okay, all right other people who will go to Europe with me good. All right Great, and then we'll do twisters I bet you're gonna spend two weeks in Europe just talking about Despicable Me 4 over and over again Because that's all you guys have in common. Yeah, maybe. Maybe we do. This is not a recurring segment by the way.

I'm putting my foot down. What if you're leaving and me doing it? Yes. No, I completely agree. It just happened to be two weeks in a row. But if you want me to do it again, I will. Which you do? Do I get to do less?

Yeah, you get to do less. Oh my God. Yeah. Though it seems that's not what's been happening. The show has been just extra long. That's right. But hey So what do you do? Yeah, so yeah, I'm going to be whatever it's it's it's gonna be Joel and Jackson. Yes, that's right Are they stand-ins for your children? Yeah, interesting. That's right. Okay. You see that? Yeah, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. So

First of all, we got a palming the Death Star show in London on the 13th September That's going to be the three of us the weekly planet kind of hybrid show which is going to be on the 13th September, that's going to be the three of us. The Weekly Planet kind of hybrid show, which is going to be on the 14th, that's already sold out, but you can livestream it for the first week. And also I would probably say, if I had to guess, the Plumbing the Death Star show and the Weekly Planet show. Like especially, they're gonna be comparable vibes. Yeah, there's still some tickets left,

I think, at the time of recording this, to the first one at least. And then we're going to Edinburgh on the 18th. Oh, you're going to do Edinburgh Fringe Festival. That's right. You said you're going to do 30 days. I did say that. Of the Weekly Planet and Plobbing the Death Star.

Two shows back to back, 30 days, no days off. No, I'm not going to do that. Then we're going to be in Manchester on September 21st. You're going to do all Oasis covers. That's right. And then we're going gonna be in Birmingham, but there's still some confirmation stuff around the venue. So that one is not live yet, but the other two are.

Whoa. The idea is again, is to do kind of like a weekly plan, a kind of new segment and then do a Plumbing the Death Star thing and then come back afterwards. So like a little break and then a little game show kind of thing with some audience participation. If you want to, you don't have to. Okay.

I will not drag you up on stage. You must. Look I'm not comfortable on stage I'm not going to bring somebody else up either. You bought a ticket flip it over that's your consent to be part of the game show. You do not. Even if you decide not to show up they're going to come to your house. Absolutely. But look I do want to talk about first bit of news mace in the passing of Shelly Duvall at age 75. Now, according to the Hollywood Reporter, Shelley DeVille died in her sleep due to complications

from diabetes at her home in Texas. Dan Gilroy, her partner since 1999, told the outlet, my dear sweet wonderful partner and friend left us too much suffering lately. Now she's free. Fly away, beautiful Shelley. Now those people who probably you would definitely know her. I would say she's in The Shining, obviously. She's in The Shining probably most famously. She's in a bunch of Robert Altman films. Yeah. She's in Three Women. She's in...

Bloody... She's in Annie Hall. She's in Annie Hall. That's right. She's in Popeye. She's Olive Oyl in Popeye. That's right. I think, yeah, Red, I haven't watched it, but I know Red Letter Media recently did a video on Popeye and probably talk about her in that. Yeah, yeah. I'd imagine. But yeah, I know there's, there were stories video on Popeye and probably talk about her in that, I'd imagine.

But yeah, I know there's stories about how she was kind of tormented on the set of The Shining by Kubrick, but that's been recounted more recently. She was just acting, folks. Yeah. Which is nice to hear. Yeah, I think a lot of when some people do think of Shelley De Haal and all they think about is like, well, she was tortured by Kubrick and then she never wanted to do another movie ever again. And that's, you know, that's kind of the whole narrative around her is just like a shattered woman.

But from what I can tell, there is a there's a Twitter account. Is this a fan account? Yeah, Shelley Duvall update, who was a fan of Shelley Duvall and sort of got to meet her and talk and so that they became friends. And there was a lot of updates on her life and you know, how it was going. And you generally speaking she seemed to you know she was she's been doing alright. She did a lot of producing I think post movie career. She was in McCabe and Mrs Miller that's what I'm thinking of.

Oh okay right. The Warren Beatty western anti-western situation. Dick Tracy's own. Dick Tracy's own salad dressing. Take a bite out of crime with this salad dressing. Absolutely. Anyways, just incredible performances. Oh, she's in Time Bandits as well.

Oh yeah. She's getting a remake. I had a trailer this week, didn't I? Which we could maybe talk about. I don't know. Do you want to? Okay. I watched some of it.

Okay. I have no fond memories for Time Bandits. No, me neither. I don't think I've ever seen it actually. But, yeah. Oh, I didn't know she's in a Steven Soderbergh mover. Mover. Mover.

She works for Steven Soderbergh's moving company. No, she's in the underneath. Okay, I'm going to add that to my watch list. I'm going to check that out. Anyways, as mentioned, incredible legacy. 75, you'd hope to make a little bit longer than that. But a life well lived, it seems. Anyways a life, you know, well lived it seems. Anyways Mason, we're jumping on this early now.

Trailers Ahoy! We've got three trailers this week, four trailers this week. First we've got Time Bandits, what did we think? Didn't watch the whole thing? Two thumbs up, we didn't watch the whole thing. We loved it! It's Apple+. So if that means anything to you. I mean at this point they're track records all over the place, isn't it?

It's mostly good, except for the movies. Is a new series of Severance coming out? Yes in January they announced. January. Is that a weird way to say it? January. January. January. January. January. January. I am January Jones. The actor. Anyway. That's how I say it I get the all along yeah right the long awaited sequel I guess long awaited long a long time it's been a million years yeah yeah to one division which follows Agatha Harkness as played by Katherine Hahn and what's she up to well I mean true to form you know based around the series one division at the start of this trailer She's stuck in a police procedural it seems which I think is fictional. Hmm

That's that's where she's ended up after the you know, the reality altering events of WandaVision. That's fine. That's a bit of fun Absolutely, you know, it looked like a you know Again, speaking of you know Apple TV looked like a mayor of East town or kind of yeah Detective or you know something like that. Yeah. Yeah, we also see Aubrey Plaza is in it of Apple TV, it looked like a mirror of East town or kind of a true detective or something like that. Yeah. We also see Aubrey Plaza is in it, among others, a coven of witches running. It looks like there's some spooky elements to it, of course.

I think that it looks like there might be some flashback stuff. She's probably, was she really old? I can't remember. One Division was 2020 maybe. Oh, that's very old. I can't remember. WandaVision was 2020 maybe. Oh, that's very old. That is very old. But yeah, I mean, could be, it also seems, could be fun.

There's also, you see like... Could be fun. Could be fun. Four thumbs up, we loved it. Could be fun. There's like, she's cycling through like the characters that she appeared as in WandaVision. Maybe some kind of penance or stuck in a spell or yeah, you know, some variation on that. But of course, with the death or at least the stopping of Scarlet Witch,

whatever is kind of containing appears to be, you know, loosening up. That's right. Like how Beetlejuice gets out or whatever. I saw the Beetlejuice trailer when I watched Twisters. This Beetlejuice makes me want to watch the first Beetlejuice, which I haven't seen. Okay. Yeah, it makes me want to. So it's worked on you. The marketing's worked. Yeah, to watch the first one, I guess. Well I haven't seen. Okay, yeah, great. Sort of makes me want to do that. So it's worked on you, the marketing's worked. Yeah, to watch the first one, I guess. Well then you're going to watch that and you're going to be like, I would love to watch an

inferior sequel. A legacy sequel, Mason. That looks worse. Maybe. We've also got a trailer for Watchmen Chapter One, and I believe the tagline of this is Mason knows James an apology, which is an interesting tagline for this This story don't you think I mean that coincidentally that's got both of our names in it Yes, it does. And why would that be? Why would why would Mason know James an apology?

If I recall correctly Mason is if you don't mind me saying so gone that you said we're not going to see dr Manhattan's dong. Oh, and do we say it? Do we say it? Okay in this trailer? Okay, we don't have to apologize for that. Do I? That's right. I don't know. I don't just have to say, Oh, that's interesting. No, you have to say James, you were right. They're not going to take the dong out. Well, yeah. Don't you think that's cool? Yeah. Yeah, that is cool. Yeah. I think it's great that they've, they've, I mean, they've alienated a lot of their potential viewing base by making that the tagline. I think, you know, they've laser focused on us because we're influencers and we can make people watch it.

We'll say ignore the terrible tagline, you should watch this because there's dick in it. Now, I just want to look for the quote. But what the writer on this or one of the writers is J. Michael Strazinski. He created Babylon 5. He did. And he also did some Watchmen comics. And before Watchmen stuff, I believe.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah. He's... This is what he said about it. I can now talk about my... Talk about it as the news is breaking. I adapted Watchmen for Warner Animation. By adapted, I mean I strictly can... I can figure out the structure to work in a movie.

I saw no need to write more material or change what works in the book. It's pure more. So this seems as direct a translation as you can do, I guess. And it goes on to say Alan Moore would hate it still. Yeah, he still hates it. Still going to hate it. How did you feel about this trailer?

Ah, I think it was through the, I was just going to say I quite enjoyed the third element, like that it's a pseudo, that pseudo 3d look, which doesn't always grab me. I think sometimes I'm like, this looks atrocious. I don't know. I think it works given when you think of the Dave Gibbons art from back in the day. I don't know, maybe in this instance, to me at least, maybe it lends itself to that particular art style.

I'm not sure. But when you see Dan Dreberg and Sally and those characters, I'm like, this works quite well with this animation style. It could be just like Watchmen. Could be just like Watchmen. Yeah, so that's good, I guess. Then of course we've got to travel for Gladiator 2, which people are mixed on.

People are dead, it's one of those. The music choice. Well, I mean, a lot of people are down on it for a variety of reasons. There's a lot of dislikes flying, because there's hip hop in it. There's, it's. It's going to Western Jay-Z. No Church in the Wild. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look, that is a strange choice. Like a lot of people said, why not use like Hans Zimmer's score? Yeah. Like it's not like, like that first gladiator movie people, people know it. Also,

it's a famous movie. It's a famous movie. But also speaking of another topic in this, they're like, well Denzel Washington is just using his own accent. Or he could use a British accent, like Romans famously had British accents. Yeah, I don't care about that. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. And then why can't they use a traditional Hans Zimmer arrangement? You mean using like an orchestra like the Romans didn't have?

That's what they did. You know, the style of music that didn't exist for a thousand years. They had a plink plonk kind of instrument probably. Some kind of plink plonk instrument and a horn and a drum. Yeah exactly. Yeah no I look I see what you're saying. I thought it was fun. I didn't like the music choice.

I thought it was like. Oh Mr Downvotes over here. No I mean I don't think it's going to affect the movie like at all. It seems to be like the Paul Mescal's character and this is the little boy from the first one and he's doing the legacy of Maximus. Yes, and all of that stuff So yeah, like the story story element wise and you know that returning to this universe who you'd think initially Maybe they shouldn't have done this and maybe they shouldn't because we haven't seen it yet Yeah, right, but I know I I did I did like the trailer. I just thought it was like, okay

All right, whatever I guess but yeah, you're right. I guess you're right in the sense that like, who cares? I also mean, on a different, on a slightly more nuanced level, maybe people are like, I mean, some people are like, well, rap music, blah, blah, blah. But I think some people might also be like, why do you use music from a famously canceled guy? Oh, you know, because of all the Nazi stuff. Because of all the Nazi stuff. Yeah, that's a good point, too.

And I'm like, well, you know, it is a banger still. During the Mr. and Mrs. Smith press run, Donald Glover was out there. They, Donald Glover and Myra Erskine were on one of these videos where they're like, you got to talk about the goats of various, you know, industries, like who's the who's the goats? Yeah, you know, actor or who, you know, who like who's the who's the goats? Yeah, you know, actor or who you know, who's who's the best in their field at whatever it was. And Donald Glover was asked who's the goat rapper. And he said Kanye. And like, that was, you know, in the in the, you know, in the aftermath of him saying all a bunch of stuff and all his bizarre behavior. But Donald Glover is not wrong. Yeah, he is a pie. He was a pioneering artist and you know, changed the game for a lot of

people. It's just a shame. He then did all the Nazi stuff that he sucks. And he's obviously going through a lot of extreme episode and a lot of traumatic stuff happening. And his mom died. And so, you know, and then it's surrounded by yes, man and blah, blah, blah. Like it's a, it's a sort of an equal parts tragic and upsetting. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? And et cetera. Yeah. But I mean, so maybe, maybe that's the reason, but it is a, it's a good, it's a good song. And I don't think that I don't think the entire movie is going to be soundtracked by hip hop. I would say almost certainly not, but if it is, I'm sure it could work. I mean, they did,

um, what's the song they did for Ridley, Ridley Scott's gladiator. They did, um, I'll get knocked down and I Get Up Again. You're never gonna keep me down. I'm a gladiator. What's that song of the witches and black masses? What the hell is that song called? Oh, Warpics. Did they do Warpics?

I don't know. I don't think so. Maybe. Maybe though. I might be wrong. Maybe though. Yeah, they did. Okay, great.

So there you go. That was a fun movie, wasn't it? Anyway, Gladiator 2, are you jazzed? Are you hip hopped for it? Lescinephiles on Twitter says the Gladiator 2 soundtrack includes a variety of hip hop artists, but I don't know if Lescinephiles is a reputable source. It also might not mean that- It says Travis Scott, Metro, Boomin, Ice Spice, Lil Yachty, Playboy, Cardi and Post Malone,

which could be real or could not be real. Yeah, and also that might or could not be real. Yeah, and also like that might not be in the movie. Yeah, exactly. And like you said, like there were no orchestral scores then anyway. Anyway, Sharks in the Arena. Oh, see, that's exactly it. Like what are you talking about being like, oh, this looks bad because it's got, it's

got cardio, what's the story? They're fighting sharks in the arena. I think they wanted to do that in the first one, like budgetary problems. Which apparently was a real thing. Yeah, it was a real thing, absolutely. So, that's fun, isn't it? But anyway, great cast, Paul Mescal, Joseph Quinn is kind of like... Ooh! Yeah, the ooh, the ooh guy. The guy who's all ooh.

Yeah. You know, he's got the eyes of somebody who's a bit ooh and he's... Yeah. He's... He's had too much sugar. Yeah, absolutely. Back in the day when sugar was a real, a real rare spice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's all, Ooh. Uh, uh, Connie Nielsen is back. Is that her name?

Great question. James. Connie Nielsen. Okay. But Denzel's looking great. Yeah. Connie Nielsen is back. Uh, Pedro Pascal is in this. Yep. I don't remember seeing him in the trailer, but Jumon Honsu is in this and he's in the first one also. Oh yeah. Okay.

Uh, and also, yeah, the first gladadiator movie isn't historically accurate like at all. Like this kind of took some names of some people but it's not true. Yes. It's not true, Mason. Wow. Anyway, we'll see. I cautiously optimistic as I am for this. Shrek is back.

Shrek 5 July 1st, 2026. Uh-huh. Great. How did we leave Shrek in Shrek 4 back. Shrek 5, July 1st, 2026. Uh huh. Great. How did we leave Shrek in Shrek 4? He died. He had kids. He didn't die. No, he's alive. No, he died. He said, I died.

Wow. I'm Shrek. I'm taking my kids with me. To hell. We're all getting drowned in the lake. We're getting drowned in this coliseum. Here we go. Nobody had kids. They had kids, right? Yeah, they had kids. They had kids in the end of...

We watched them. We didn't forget about garbage., so is he gonna have fully grown kids in this? I don't know we're gonna be the voices of the kids Jack Black Jack Chris Pratt Chris Pratt's Jack Black Others yeah, the other cake cake and Michael. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, just like Kyle gas from All the famous people are doing voice acting now. They'll be the kids. Exactly. The core trio is returning like Cameron Diaz, Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy. Uh huh, yep. Yeah, that's Shrek again. Why not? I think the date is July 1st, 2026. Okay. Did we put Shrek ears on that somehow? They did it. It's on Twitter. You can look at it.

Nice. Yeah, you don't have to look at it though. Okay. But look, don't worry about that big movie. Okay, well, okay, but I was going to say, generally speaking, there are a cut above. I can't remember what Shrek calls it. Okay. Look, don't worry about that big movie. Okay. Well, okay. Do you want to worry about it? But I was going to say, generally speaking, they're a cut above. I can't remember what Shrek calls it. Some of them are.

Three's not. Okay, well, unless it's a show. The Pussy and Boots movies are good, and particularly the second one. Yeah. Mason. Go on. Comicbookmovie.com. Oh, I remember those guys.

Our old stomping ground. That's right. Our old best pals. Agreed. So they are saying, well, everybody's saying this, but there were 35 minutes of Deadpool and Wolverine show and this is some of the quotes that were compiled. Why only 35 minutes? I've been ripped off. I want to see the whole movie for free in advance. I'm mad about this. Do you want to see it early? Because I've got previous stuff on the Tuesday night.

Yeah, why not? But you can also see it on Wednesday night in a regular cinema. Oh, that'd be about the same, wouldn't it? Yeah, it'd be about the same. Let's see how we go. And then we get to stand near the Deadpool standee. Oh yeah that'd be about the same, wouldn't it? Yeah, it'd be about the same. Let's see how we go. And then we get to stand near the Deadpool standee. Oh yeah.

And be like, we're friends with Deadpool. Look at us. But not Wolverine. Wolverine's mad. He doesn't want to be friends with us. Look at us. But he has to. We're hugging Wolverine.

Look at us. We're giving the peace sign. Look at us. Look at us, we'd say. Yeah. On Instagram. 10,000 likes. So they're saying, best since Endgame.

Everything I hoped for. You really aren't ready I guess you could call it Deadpool and Wow Verene okay pretty good because Wolverine is referred to as Wow Verene the whole movie. It might happen okay you're okay with that? Opening sequence Deadpool's like I'm gonna call you Wow Verene but I don't like that well that's why I'm doing it. Maybe he's from the dimension. You don't like this nickname that's why it's sticking around. But maybe he's from the dimension where he's called Wow Verene so you know doing it. Maybe he's from the dimension. You don't like this nickname That's why it's sticking around but maybe he's from the dimension where he's called well I'll rain so, you know and it's fine. He's like, thank you for calling me by my real name. Wow for eight. Yeah

Not my real real name, which is Loulgan How long would you think this movie is this isn't a test? I'm just curious Oh if they've given away 35 minutes for free. Yeah, I reckon. Like with the cameos that it's supposed to have. Oh, what would you say? Shorter than expected, I reckon. Oh, okay. I reckon it's 127 minutes.

So what's that, an hour and seven? Yep. No, it's 2007. It's exactly two hours and seven minutes. Did you know that? I didn't know that. That's incredible. I'm just, I'm so in tune with comic book movies.

I can do that. Yeah, it's shorter than I think people Me in particular. No, not you apparently You knew yeah expected. Yeah, it's the social media reactions to this drop on July 22nd I'm gonna beautiful mind on it. You really do and the reviews embargoed until July 23rd I like them apples like I'm figuring it out. Yeah, like someone owes me an apology. Yeah, I do a poll I mean that was again that wasn't a test Like them apples. Like a pretty... Figuring it out. Yeah, I like... I guess someone owes me an apology. I do apologize.

I mean, that was, again, that wasn't a test. Sure. When you got it wrong, inevitably, which you should have, I would have jumped all over that. That's right. But you did it somehow. I did it, yeah. I didn't go, I bet it's 49 hours.

What do you mean I'm wrong? What do you mean? What do you mean, just calcular? What do you mean? Still jazzed for this? Yep. Good. Yeah.

But then we've got, of course, delays but not dismay in relation to Horizon. What do you mean, discalcula? What do you mean? Still jazzed for this? Yep. Good. Yeah. But then we've got of course, delays but not dismay's in relation to Horizon and American Saga Chapter 2. Do you think we're gonna see new Wolverine and Deadpool? Like a new Wolverine? A new cast of Wolverine, whoever it is. It's possible.

Unless Hugh Jackman wants to just be Wolverine again. That's the rumors that I'm now seeing floating around. I think the rumors at the moment is also that he's going to be doing some Avengers secret war stuff. Oh yeah, right. I think they probably will recast. But yeah, maybe not just yet. That'd be a hint. Hang on, the dog's trying to get out out.

My goodness, it's cold out there, Ollie. What are you thinking? So, Horizon and American Saga Chapter 2 will no longer be releasing in theaters this August. The first one of course went to cinemas in this month or last month. That's right. And now I believe they're saying we need people to... they're not saying we're cancelling the cinema release. They're saying we want to give people more time to experience Horizon and American Saga so they can watch two and then we can cancel three and four. As we talked about last week, it's directed and stars Kevin Costner.

It was released on June 28th and is so far made around $25 million. I believe the two movies together cost $100 million, which I guess isn't ridiculous. Not these days. Yeah, like you mentioned, the idea is to allow to build an audience on streaming, which is possible. I mean, Jun did that, didn't it? Yeah. And also, again, this is what we've been talking about. It seems, it seems to me to be a wise decision to keep some leeway

there. If you want to keep a movie in cinemas longer, or you want to delay the streaming release, or you want to move it, like we know Eric Banner moved the release of Dry 2, Extra Dry. Every movie moved that up because he's like... He's like, so dry. Dry mouth. Dry 2, dry mouth? Yep. Is that a poster? No, I don't think so. Don't worry about that one. Don't do it. Don't do it, okay?

Don't do it. Deadline reports that there are no plans to send the sequel directly to Max, but there could be a theatrical day and date release for Horizon American Saga to Max, but there could be a theatrical day and date release for Horizon American Saga Chapter 2, but that is reportedly still being assessed at the time. Yeah, I think it's just waiting to see streaming numbers and if social media.

I'll photo that. But then again, like, how do you monitor that? We don't know, folks. We've reached another point in this podcast where we must admit to everybody we don't know what we're talking about. I hate doing that. Yeah, but we have to do it. We owe all of you an apology, but not each other.

No. As we know. How do you monitor that? I mean, just, I don't know, hashtags, Horizon American Saga, we love it on Instagram or on Twitter. Yeah, but like, I just, I mean, I guess in terms of, the audience for this is probably people older than us. Correct.

If you can believe it. And so do you look at Facebook? Increasingly, I'm finding it hard to believe that there are people older than us. Do you look at, do you find it on Facebook? Is that the idea? Yeah, you see how much Horizon American Saga like AI Slop is appearing. Why isn't anybody doing this anymore? It's Kevin Costner drinking from a hose. That's right. And with a sign that says it's my birthday. birthday. I'm sorry it says it's my birthday. Alright Mason do you want to talk about twisters or do you want to take a breath so I can talk about Despicable Me 4? I'm going to give you the option. Yeah get the Despicable Me stuff out of the way. Yeah? Okay. So you're not here anymore are you?

Yeah I'm going to leave the room and then Joel and Jackson are going to, they're in the waiting room. Yeah. I mean we could make them wait longer. Yeah, it's up to you. Okay. Yeah. You can go onto the table again, if you want. I didn't do that before and I'm not going to do it again. I feel like you probably did.

I don't think I did. I don't think I did. All right, but you'll be back. Maybe. Tim Horton's Camp Day is Wednesday, July 17th. When you buy a hotter iced coffee, 100% of proceeds help change the lives of youth in need. See you at Tim's July 17th.

And don't forget to upsize your coffee for a bigger donation at participating restaurants in Canada. All right, now that Mason is under the table again, which is what he does when we have guests in now. We invite him, you invite him, you insisted that he stay in. He's very polite about it. Thank you so much for keeping our feet warm under the table, Nick Mason. Yeah, that's beautiful. Little hot water bottle.

Yeah. So look, I've got you guys in today because, well for a couple of reasons. First of all, we three are going on tour in the UK together. Yeah, we are. The London stuff is nearly sold out. Yeah, so at the time stuff is nearly sold out. Yeah. Yeah, so at time of recording the weekly planet episode Yeah featuring me Joel Dusha and my good friend Jackson Bailey. That's me Yeah, weekly plan to show sold out there is tickets to watch a live stream of it. Yeah. Absolutely

Still available and we are also doing a plumbing the Death Star episode with me Joel Dusha my good friend Jackson Bailey's me and now mine and Jackson's good friend James. Yeah, exactly. Switching it up. Two very distinct shows. Yeah, oh yeah, they'll be different. But all three of us will be on stage the whole time for both. That's right. Yeah, so that's the 13th and 14th, is that right? Of September. And also the Plum in the Dust show at time of recording only has about 35 to 40 tickets left.

So hurry, move quick.. Yeah get in there now I've also got dates and this will be linked below for Edinburgh. Yes. Yeah, which is enough I would have said this up top I reckon yeah Yeah, Manchester and Birmingham. Yes, Birmingham was still confirming some things, but the other two should be on So yeah, yeah Check the show notes and if you want more information on that go back to the start To get back to this point I would have said Definitely but look also I've got you guys in here for another reason first of all to see if we can actually work together

Yeah, if we could actually talk at the same time no different We're talking about the speakable me for because I don't think this matters as much to you guys except everything is busier. Yeah. When you go to see a movie. But Despicable Me 4 is out along with several other children's movies. Yeah. We've got Garfield. I talked to Inside Out recently. Did you guys watch Garfield? Any chance?

I haven't seen Garfield. No. I watched the trailer once and was like, that's not for me. Yeah. I look, and I know this isn't a particularly controversial opinion Yeah, but famous actor Chris Pratt if he was removed from every source of media Wow, I would be a little happy He is a good Star-Lord though. I know people love him Yeah, when they're like, oh, let's recast him let's get in. Um, what's his name? He played night owl or owl man

Oh, yeah, I who you mean. Wait, Patrick Wilson? Patrick Wilson! Yeah, I'm like, no, let's just let it ride. Are these terrific? I think that Chris Pratt is really good as Star-Lord, but I also think that like when the Infinity War stuff happened and the like Star-Lords wrecked everything, I was like, that's perfect, it lines up with his character! Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

A moron. Who's just thinking with his heart, not his head? Exactly, but is Chris Pratt Garfield? No. And does it seem funny to come to bat for who is Garfield? Yeah! To even have an opinion on that seems absurd. It's also funny that he was Mario then Garfield.

Oh yeah, I forgot that. I don't know who should be Garfield, but it shouldn't be Chris Pratt. No. That's my belief. I guess Bill Murray again if we had to. Yeah, exactly. If we had to. Trick him I guess Bill Murray again if yeah, exactly if we had trick him a second time Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I just want to quickly talk about box office. So these normally are budgeted Reasonably lowly lowly about a hundred million bucks to make a pickable me for which is it's you know, it's surprising to say

It's like well, that's reasonable. They really exercised some restraint And the first weekend the three-day weekend in the US it made $75 million. It's probably not going to do as well as Inside Out 2 because I think parents hate this franchise. People hate the Minions. Yeah. Unfairly, I might say. They're much more lied. We talked at the same time and it worked!

It was good! I think we're going to nail this. We're going to be trying, we're going to be chasing that high. The entire tour. We always finished each other. Minions! We're gonna be chasing that high We always finish each other Minions So listeners gonna want to buy tickets to every show Justin Kent. What if that happens again? Oh my god, can you imagine now normally I asked Mason this but he's asleep Yeah, what do you think the story was either of you guys could answer that? Okay easy grew and he's beautiful

No you're supposed to go oh man Oh sorry I forgot Thanks man Mason forgot to word me up properly. Yeah, James bloody hell Well, actually the story is yeah grew and his beautiful wife Lucy Uh-huh just like still working for the anti villains league as continuation of Despicable Me 3 Mm-hmm, and then grew has maybe bit off more than he can chew Tracking down the number one most wanted villain for the Anti-Villains League.

A guy whose name I forget. Maxime... Well, yeah, Maxime something. It's Will Ferrell. It took me a bit to catch it, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A credit to that performance. But yeah, my first note here is just like, what the fuck is up with this guy?

And I know this franchise, I like vaguely, like I don't even know which ones I've kind of seen. I sort of remember seeing three and I think I liked it, but I feel like this one, it seemed kind of like aimless. Another note here is like, is this funny? Like is it? Also, I saw it like yesterday and I've forgotten so much about it already. I saw it yesterday, I've forgotten so much about it already. I saw it yesterday. I remember every single scene.

Lucky you've asked us what the story is. I know. I read the Wikipedia before this as well, just to be sure. So, you are not sure how many Despicable Me's you've seen. I know how many I've seen. Four. Because I watched all four of them in a 24-hour period. Oh my god. And Jackson has seen not only all four Despicable Me's, but both Minions movies as well. I like the Minions movies. The Minions movie is great. I think they're both really...

I think I've seen both. Whatever element of those that I've seen I like. I really like it. The first one is when the Minion Bob becomes the king very briefly. He becomes King Bob. Very briefly he's King Bob. And then the second one is The Rise of Gru. That's the one with baby Gru.

Yeah and that's fun also. That's fun as well. What I love about Minions 1 is that it has no character capable of an emotional I think you know you watch like a lot of kids movies, and they'll often do the like schmaltzy like oh Obviously, it's a kids movie. We've not really set up these characters much, but we're gonna try for an emotional ending You got this in in fall with one of his daughters and the goat or whatever. Oh, yeah That's like well, I guess from three from three, but it is in minions. They're just minions. Yeah, the end result is they remain minions It's beautiful. Oh, yeah, but to continue what the story in fall was yeah

We get too distracted by reminiscing about the wonders that is the despicable me franchise Guru catches Maxime. Mm-hmm Maxime is now a cockroach man because cockroaches are powerful. Yeah, he has little cockroach minions, which do not play a big part in the film whatsoever. No, it felt like they were going for something there and then went off. Don't worry about it. Yeah, forget about it. This is stupid. And then in prison he threatens Gru and his Gru's family, Maxime that is. He's like, hey Gru, I'm gonna come kill you and I'm gonna kill your family. Yeah.

He won't say that specifically. Yeah. So then... Gru's scared, well the anti-villain league come and let Gru and his family know and Gru's scared. Which is... Gru has a kid now, Gru Jr. Yeah that's true and Gru Jr. he does not like Gru. Should have called him Gru-nia.

Yes! And Gru-nia is also his first biological child because the gorals are adopted. Yes, exactly. Anyway, so they get relocated to a new town where the anti-villains leave. Do his family know? I've forgotten this. Does he tell his wife, who I thought was a super spy, but is like... She works for the anti-villains. That's what I mean, like, because she went like toe went like toe to toe with him in like previous entries, right?

In the second one. It seems like they like nerfed her. Oh yeah, they really did. She's been nerfed. They nerfed Lucy Wild. And they're like, we'll make her a hairdresser for a minute, I guess? Yeah, it's- It made her goofier, but she is still kind of clumsy in her introduction. Yeah.

When she first meets Gru, she keeps tazering him. What do I have five messages? Oh, sorry, don't worry. I just came through. Sorry, I keep going. That's alright. Anyone saying anything good? Yeah. Any good messages? She keeps Anyone saying anything good yeah It's never a bunch of congratulations Although you were saying you got multiple messages today Jackson that was due to a government miss Just being like he's a hundred bucks. Really? That was pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tudor Medicare sort of issue. Here's a hundred bucks. Hey buddy, here's a hundred bucks. Here's a hundred bucks multiple times. Hey buddy, here's a hundred bucks. A hundred bucks. And then Jackson immediately used that to buy the full Hellboy omnibus. So listeners who aren't familiar with us, yeah, we read comics as well.

We know what's going on. I just started, don't fall for this fake nerds. Yeah, now that we've finished the Despicable Me franchise, we're starting with the comics. So they move into the safe house, and at the same time, the minions that haven't gone into the safe house, who work for the Anti-Villain League, the Anti-Villain League has got them for a brand new program, very they intend to make the mega minions now these are minions That's a whole three scenes in the movie Where the minions are given superpowers tasked with fighting crime, so there's a stretchy young guy a rock guy There's a strong guy, and I think the rock on the strong guy Yeah, yes, I don't really know what was different about them

Well the rock I eat a lot of different the rock guy eats and strong guy could kinda like, that's one guy. I don't really know what was different about them. The rock guy ate a lot of different things. The rock guy eats and is heavy, while the strong guy is just strong. There's also a cyclops guy. Yeah. I loved the cyclops guy. Me too, he was really good. Just incredibly dangerous. I enjoyed that a lot.

There's a moment where he does... I didn't laugh a lot at this. Or at all. But there is a moment where he shoots his laser like through the earth. Oh yeah, that was great. I was laughing. Yeah. We laughed a bit. I laughed a, that was great. I was laughing. Yeah, we laughed at bits

I laughed at bits. I find the minions very charming. Am I wrong that like this isn't as strong as the other entries though? So, as someone who watched all of them in a 24-hour period and I cannot stress that this is not a joke I watched three of these back-to-back and then the next morning went to the cinema to watch that because I take my time on The weekly planner very serious I want to do the research. I'm like Nick Mason who allegedly reviewed something he didn't even watch one time. Oh my God. Oh, that is. Yeah.

Mason! He won't tell us. He's falling asleep. He's caught up on your feet like a cat. Yeah. This is better than three, but is significantly worse than one and two. Okay. I think that's, I think that's true.

And it is kind of a Despicable Me trope at this point. It seems like the writers have too many ideas for what they want the plot of the movie to be. Which seems like a crazy claim because you, like most kids movies are like quite lazy if they're that. Like you're like, oh this is the most obvious thing. But Despicable Me doesn't do that. It's like they're like, oh here's four or five ideas that could be a whole movie. But we're just gonna put them all in one and then just kind of jump between. Because we've met- It does feel like vignettes but broken up be a whole movie. Yeah, exactly. We're just going to put them all in one and then just kind of jump between. Because we've... It does feel like vignettes, but broken up over a 90 minutes.

Yes, absolutely. And you come back to something and you're like, oh, yeah, there's going to be a fight in a supermarket because there was a haircut earlier. Yeah. Oh, that's right. And like the Mega Minions, they literally get, they get the creation of the Mega Minions, one attempted fighting crime. Where they wreck everything and the entire city hates them.

And then you get the final scene where they come back with a bunch of animals for various reasons. Because when they went into retirement, each mega minion took a job that required a bunch of animal- I don't even know. But there's like three scenes, but all the promotion was like the mega minions. That's what the movie's about. Yeah, they get their powers, they get hated by the city, forced into retirement, and they're like, oh, actually retirement sounds awesome. Yeah.

And they go to a farm. And that's, yeah. My son, because there's a moment where they're trying to save people and they're doing more damage, and there's a moment where there's a bomb and the rock guy eats the bomb. Yeah.

And then the city's saving, then he burps, and then like there's a shockwave and everyone's like, boo! My son was like, that's better than a bomb. And I'm like, you're right. That is better. I saw it with my son. It's more better than a bomb and I'm like you're right

No, but you're right because a strange thing they keep doing is they keep adding characters to Gru's family Yeah, like this weird like this weird, so like in this one there's that teenage- I thought he was going to adopt the neighbor. Me too. I thought that was going to end. Oh yeah, that's right. There's this part of it too. Where he, there's the next door neighbor's teenage daughter is a villain, like they want to try to become a supervillain. Well they're applying to go to the school that Gru used to go to. Yeah.

Also the start of the movie takes place. Yeah. So it's just all of a sudden, you get told about Maxime a lot, he's start of the movie take place. Yeah. Yeah, so just all of a sudden you you get told about Maxime a lot he's in the movie like three times. Yeah. Yeah, but I think it's crazy for them to introduce a new He was Megamind. He was Remember there was a moment where it's like these two movies are the same and like fuck Megamind. They made that new one Did you guys watch it? Yeah, they made the straight to streaming movie and a TV series at the same time I think yeah

I thought it was weird that they they had that this new teenage girl character Yeah for grew to bond with when grew had three children already Right there. What are we doing with this cat? You're right one of them could have been like I want to move Right there. What are we doing with this cat? Right one of them could have been like I want to move But I guess it had to they had to yeah It could have been like I I'll tell mom about the cockroach man. Yeah, you keep that from her I don't know. Yeah, and unless you do a mission with me cuz I'm Okay, then they think you get exactly the same thing but like it's not just like a brand new character Yeah, I didn't mind her though at first. I'm like this seems pointless. Yeah, then there's a little heist for

I didn't mind her though at first I'm like this seems pointless. Yeah, then there's a little heist for Jackson and I were talking about prior to recording Reminiscing about the fact that it's good that that's there because it reminds you the grew is capable Yeah, yes, cuz he gets very confident. He gets fucked over by his silly little goofy So many problems and then so he gets given rather than his bag of equipment, a bag of baby, like things to keep, like a baby care package. Yeah, like nappies, safety pins, blah blah blah blah blah. That was good. That was inventive, how he used that to... Yeah. No, you're right. I enjoyed that.

It was fun to watch him. They thought about it. Yeah, exactly. I still think it's so wild that the Despicable Me movies, especially 3 and 4, have too much stuff. It's like, why didn't you just make a movie about that? I know, you could have just been Gru and then this up-and-coming villain, like teenage girl, trying to get into the academy. Oh, that's enough. It's a movie. Settled out. Also, I don't like the...

Because I think the director came out of somebody associated with this, said that his children are not going to age. Yeah. I hate that. That's crazy. Yeah. Just, I mean, the baby's going to be a baby forever. I hate that. I really hate that. But for the director to say that it's really strange because there's two scenes in across the series already Directly are aligned to the characters age like so the youngest kid whose name I always Agnes

Agnes I think is the is the youngest child. Yeah, maybe she has a birthday in Despicable Me 2 or might be the start of 3 actually Yeah, okay, So she has aged. Yeah. Alright. And then in this, the oldest daughter starts junior high school. And like that's also a big thing. Yeah. So like, what's going on?

It's like Bart Simpson rules. Yeah. Where like they have milestones but don't. Yeah nothing changes. But it's also funny because like at least in The Simpsons it's like a, it's an episodic TV show. Yeah. With very little continuity. But in like movies you just kind of expect it's an episodic TV show. Yeah, very little continuity But in like movies you just kind of expect it and when yeah

I don't know when you see that they have an age again it feels especially since incongruous Yeah, it's weird because like at least with Incredibles 2 which I didn't love no, but it's set like directly after the first So there's like exactly there's been like 19 of these movies or whatever or not even but you know It feels like it's been moving forward. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, plus I think Groose aging Groose you know now there's some some sort of poignant about that Groose aging Time will come for Groose. To have a marriage and then a baby And then not age the kids does seem weird and like grew in the rise of grew He's like 11. Yeah, yeah ages throughout the series. We know he's capable

You know what I do like about the people in this universe or even any animal or object or whatever Everybody is like a fucking live hand grenade You don't but you don't know who yeah, so like this like that badger for example It's a pretty obvious one But there's a moment where she burns that woman's hair or whatever in the salon and then later comes across her. It reminded me of this, it's a weird parallel, but have you ever seen the zombie show Black Summer? No, I don't think so.

No, I don't think so. Not even heard of it. It's on Netflix. Nobody's seen it. There's two seasons. It's probably the best zombie thing in like the last 20 years. Whoa, that's huge. After like 28 days later and whatever. But basically everybody in that is like a bomb waiting to go off. So as soon as you get like nicked or bitten or scraped or whatever,

you become a screaming zombie lunatic straight away. And like it's fast zombie rules. So everybody that you're with could like go off at any point. That's great. So like you're being a fight with a zombie with a friend and then it turns and all of a sudden you're fighting two different people. It's amazing. You should watch it. It's genuinely incredible. Movie or series? Series. There's two episodes. Two series, sorry. And they cancelled it.

But it's amazing. I didn't, I wasn't like, it's also connected to that eye zombie or something. It's sort of set in there. What? But like not at all. Like I haven't seen that show. But anyway, it's irrelevant. But I feel like everybody in this has like a trigger point Yes, and then could like a feral. Yeah, she becomes the Terminator It's a very obvious Terminator music And I love that that everybody's got like a breaking point and it could be conscious everybody's incredibly dangerous

Yeah, yeah, well, that's it. You you don't know who. That is a thing, again, in the franchise, the whole, like, cause the world building and stuff like that is very consistent. Yeah. There's just this massive league of villains. Everyone's just aware of heists and villainy. Yes. They're not even like, it doesn't seem like there's regular police. It's true.

There's like the villains and then the anti-villain league and they're just fighting the whole time and that's about it Yeah, but yeah, like it's just it is a bananas universe the character design seems lazy at points But then occasionally they just serve the most fucked up guy you've ever seen That's innovative like I think in the the principles to bodyguards who were like two bricks on legs What a good shape they hand. What a good shape. Yeah, they hand the principal something and their hands are as big as her head. That's awesome.

Yeah. I also don't think the cockroach guy is that really a credible threat for Gru considering. No. And I think, yeah, you're right, like they nerfed him. Yeah. Because it's like, you've dealt with like guys like this. Yeah, exactly. Right, old robots and whatever.

You stole the moon once, man. You stole the moon because you reminded everybody. Yeah, exactly. If you are a big fan of the Despicable Me franchise, which I know a lot of the fans of the Weekly Planet are. Absolutely. This is the first one that gets self-referential. Yeah.

Oh, when they say another thing happened once. They're like, hey remember these things. Like you get character, Lucy, his wife he meets in the second one. They're married and, yeah they get married in the third. Maybe it's two that I saw with her. Maybe I haven't seen three. Yeah. Anyway, sorry. Three's got his twin brother, Drew. Oh no, I haven't seen that. I know, because he's got the blonde hair.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think I've seen that one. Hey look, spoilers for the end of Despicable Me 4. They do like a cameo thing. Yeah. And Drew's there. Drew's there. Drew's... He's in the birthday party.

There's a brief Drew cameo. In the credits? No! Do you remember at the end of Despicable Me 4? Where they start singing the song. James, please. What song are they singing? They're singing Everybody Wants to Rule the World. Oh start singing the song. James, please. What song are they singing? They're singing Everybody Wants to Rule the World. Oh, that's right. And we get a bunch of cameos from characters from all the other Despicable Me movies. Oh, that's right, of course. Oh, he's there. Yeah, no, you're right.

And included characters from both Minions movies as well. Who have aged. Yes, they have aged. Oh, that's right, because that's one of them set in the 60s sort of-ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I didn't like about that, and I think the same can be said for, have you seen Kung Fu Panda 4? No. Well at the end they bring back a bunch of the villains from the previous ones, and so the Kung Fu Panda and his mates or whatever, whose mates aren't in it, they kind of write them out.

Jackie Chan probably needs a lot of money to do Kung Fu Panda 4 these days. They do cameo, but they don't. Then no one's talking. No, no one's talking. And at the end they bring back Ty Long from the first one, the Panther guy, and there's the other ones there, but the other ones aren't voiced, so it feels kind of lazy and like, oh, it would have been cool if you got Gary Oldman back and whatever,

and I feel like it would have been cool if they had done a similar thing here. Absolutely, and I think it's even crazier because Drew is Steve Carrell. Exactly, yeah. He doesn't have a different voice actor. He was there. Is that a two paycheck situation? It might be, like if he's voicing two characters. Yeah, I mean why not?

I want another million dollars. Steve Carrell's looking at like the storyboarding for it and be like, is that Drew? And they're like, yeah. He's like, what's he saying? A couple of lines come in my way, I reckon. Well, who else voice it cuz Benjamin Jason Segel is one of them. Yeah, he's vector in the last one Yeah, the guy from as a reference point a wild one, but I reckon James this will help you

Okay, the guy from Miss Congeniality Brent Benjamin. Oh Benjamin Brad. Yeah, is he one of them? He's al macho Yes, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah and then you've got another wild one tray and bullocks in there Sandra Bullock's in there no you just think I don't mean reality and no minions oh Sandra Bullock is one of the villains and she's their first boss yeah yeah and the most surprising voice of all the villains is in the third one where the villain is voiced by Trey Parker Yeah, oh really? Yeah And his name is something brat

Might actually be Cool we could find out very quickly. It's possible. I feel like what they should build towards, I don't know whether they're going to do this, is they recruit all the previous villains either to like a Sinister Six Gru or Gru has to lead a team of villains. Oh, a kind of suicide squad with Gru. Exactly, kills them all. A Gruicide squad if you will.

Oh my god. I will. I definitely will. I think that'd be great. I think they could do another thing I think that they direction they could take the Despicable Me franchise is that there's a lot of supervillains But there's not a really a single superhero unless you count the mega minions which of course I do Not every Despicable Me purist is going to so I think that that could be a if they're gonna make a Despicable Me 5 Yeah, like hey, there's a superhero on the scene

Okay, we need the greatest villain of all time to take him down There unless they do the thing that this actually might be the plot of Megamind Yeah, basically you do the incorruptible or irredeemable. Oh, yeah, where you're just like hey, he's all the boys. Mm-hmm Yeah, it's a superhero. Oh, they've gone bad. So we need the villains to go good. I think in Megamind, it's Brad Pitt, I believe. I think he just has a mental breakdown. Nah, he just goes, doesn't he? Yeah, he just goes. Fair enough. No one's ever written a story. What if Superman just went?

Yeah. Oh, if he wasn't there. They have written that. It's called What Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? I Read Comic Books. I saw a radio before this. Just quickly Googling it. Quick references to comic books I can make. Comic book Superman just goes. Speaking of references though, James, did you notice there's a reference to you in this movie? That's true, this is huge. Is it the goat?

The moment we, yeah. So, Agnes, the daughter, is being consoled by Gru. I think it's Gru consoling him, being like, Hey, when we get back lucky the goat Yeah, don't worry. They'll remember you and remember all the tricks you do and remember the podcast you do together Oh my god, I didn't say that yeah, that was a fun joke. Yeah Like that is something a kid would do like do a podcast with the goat do a podcast with a goat. That's like, why can't you 100% do that?

Yeah. Would you, how long do you reckon you could listen to a podcast that was like a five year old and a goat? Talking to a goat? If it's your own kid, forever. Oh yeah, absolutely. If it's another kid, not a single second. Like I've actually, I've recorded my kids, like not like for content, but like we record

stuff together, like, cause I sort of know what I do, or my older one does. And so we do like back little podcast Yeah, we never go out anywhere, but it's they're really good So yeah, but I would I would love that this is a thing I you just reminded me that I saw literally today Oh, you know there's like an episode of Dexter's laboratory Mm-hmm that is a kid like a five-year-old sent in their transcript for an episode and they animated it Oh, wow

And most of it is the kid as Dexter from Dexter's lab calling a robot an idiot Like that's 90% of it is him being like you idiot. This is why you're an idiot It's incredible. So maybe it will be good I love that so much Maybe kids make the best content. Oh, another note here is his baby is a cockroach. Yeah, that was really... But then they fix it.

Oh yeah, Russell Brand's character, who's not voiced by Russell. I think it's because he went too religious. I think that's the reason probably. Well yeah, I suspect so. Another victim of work culture. Yeah. I like that character. It is a a shame I like Dr. Nefarious So what? Yeah, they speak to him. Yeah, then he goes back in a tube. Yeah, what?

To die. Why is he in the tube? He leaves Gru. Is he in the Minions prequel too? Yes. well he's in Rise of Gru as a young man. And he runs the record store that lets you access the... He ages, he's capable of aging. Interesting. At the... I think it's during... Actually yeah, at the start of Despicable Me 3 he quits being Gru's assistant because

he's sick of not doing evil and then he goes to work for Balthazar Bratt, which is the villain's name. Which is still way too close to Benjamin Bratt who voiced the previous villain. That is crazy. You've already had people message you and be like, it's actually Balthazar Bratt, which is the villain's name. Which is still way too close to Benjamin Bratt, who voiced the previous movie. That is crazy. You've already had people message you and be like, it's actually Balthazar Bratt? No, no, no, James, this is your podcast. They're messaging you.

Oh, yeah. Oh, god damn it, I forgot. God damn it. Well, you can buy tickets to our UK tour and tell us to our faces. Absolutely, man. I insist you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anyway, all in all, we do best movie ever, worst movie ever. It's best movie ever for me. Yeah, I would say it's the best movie ever for me. Look, I didn't love it. My son did. I guess I'll say best movie ever, because it was fine. I like how just, what a strange world, but I feel like you could push it further. Absolutely.

They need to just realize that these are going to make money so they can relax with their ideas, and like just focus on one thing at a time Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah like going from you know we had the minions movie or minion Yeah, and then minions and they chucked Gru in you didn't need to do that Yeah, I would have watched another ten movies that were just the minions Critics didn't love the first minions movies, but they liked the second one a lot more I think Gru is the secret they need to stop se- oh we didn't talk about this But they really need to stop separating the minions in group. Yeah. Yeah, they are fun together. Yeah. Keep them together.

And I feel like some of the minion stuff when like they're in the pool together and it's just like hitting them with the pool noodle, I feel like that's lazy. Yeah. But then you got the one in the background like still in the vending machine. Oh, that's so funny. And I love that. It's just like how- Reading a book called The Vending Machine Diet, because he's been in the vending machine so long, he's learning to adapt. Oh, that's what I mean I wanted to ask. That's so funny. Of those three, whose names I can't remember, those three minions. Bob, Stuart and Kevin. Thank you.

Is there one that they particularly pick on or does that rotate? Well, so Bob is sort of the baby of the main three minions. Okay, and so he probably gets picked on the most. Kevin is sort of the brains of the operation. And Stuart's the sort of horn dog. He's sort of the Romeo, Lothario of the Minions. Okay, so they are different. Yeah, oh yeah.

Extremely distinct. Something that's worth noting as well is those three Minions aren't the main Minions in the Despicable Me movies. Those are the three main ones in the Minions movies. They are in the Despicable Me ones. But Dave and Nell are the two that get, they are in the Despicable Me ones Oh, Dave and Mel are the two that get a big look in yeah Despicable Me films right Dave gets a look in and listeners. This is a wild claim, but the movie pointed out He really wants to have sex with Gru's wife Lucy. Yeah

Dave the minion when he meets Lucy has a fantasy about kissing her on a beach. You see it. That's strange Lucy has a fantasy about kissing her on a beach you see it that's strange What's wrong with Dave? Yeah, man? I really like Mel because Mel of Dominion seems like he really cares about like he would be a union What's the bolding one? Yeah? Yeah, which is the one with the one eye? That's Bob. I'm pretty sure Okay, he was one in the vending machine Kevin's the tall one. Yeah, it's all one has one eye doesn't it? Oh, he does too. I don't know. He might have been a new minion Dave got turned into a rock. Yeah, that's right.

One thing, despite all the movies, all of them have it, I think, where a bad thing happens to one minion and then for the rest of the movie they're just like that. In the third one, one's head gets stuck in like a beaker and then as soon as he pops up he's still got the beaker stuck over his head. It's awesome. Did they resolve it at the end? No, he's just stuck like that. Same with the vending machine guy. I would have liked some continuity into the next movie. That would be cool.

Easy best movie ever for me. It is the third best of the Despicable Me franchise. Of the franchise. Oh sorry, the Despicable Me series. I haven't seen the two minions. This guy. He calls himself a true fan. I'm't seen the two minions. Yeah I'm too busy reading comic books, which I know no one here

Well, thank you so much for coming on again our links to our live shows in the UK are below Do you guys have social media? Yes They're a secret you can listen to well, I mean you can find us on social media I'm at douche 13 d us ch 1 3 on X which I don't really use Instagram which I use a lot more or you can find me on letterbox if you want to read my movie reviews. Yeah, yeah Deranged I would probably say I'm at all dogs are dead on Twitter. I'm hams forever on Instagram And I think you've got continuity between you. Yeah I'm on letterbox to Jackson Bailey Jackson underscore Bailey

Of course to plumbing the Death Star, which I've been on a few episodes. You sure have yeah Oh, yeah, big ones thumb cramps a video game podcast Yeah, if you like the energy of if you were like, hey I like these two guests that popped up on the weekly planet while Nick Mason sat under the table and you're like it I wish that they could potentially go more minion mode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thumbcrams is the podcast for you It's a video game review podcast. It kind of feels like it fell into a bad soup People it's popular people like it. People like it. All right. Thank thank you. Thank you, man Mason you can get out from under the table now. I think he's dead

Thank you. Hey, thank you man. Mason you can get out from under the table now. I think he's dead Welcome back Mason welcome back. How was the floor? I don't know cuz I wasn't on the floor. I Wasn't on the floor physically and I certainly wasn't on the floor laughing with the hilarious things you didn't say That segment probably I thought it went pretty well. I thought it went really badly. I think they were embarrassed for you. I felt like there was a big dip and they were like, man, we really have to lift our game to improve this segment which James has ruined. Thanks man. They were like, I know it's just a movie review, but James is really... Is he sick? I think he's sick. I'm not incredibly well. But yeah, let's let's push on Mason. Twisters are doing it for themselves. Absolutely.

They're out on their own. That's right. With a budget of 200 million dollars and a box office return. It looks as if the US opening weekend is going to be anywhere between 40 and 55 million. Those are early numbers. That's why I THR. I saw an early morning Thursday screening of this and it was pretty frickin busy. Really? Often it's not. Interesting. I feel like there is a bit of buzz. There's a bit of buzz. I was going to think of a pun.

A bit of a whoosh. A bit of a whoosh to this. A bit of box office whoosh. What did you, what about you? Did you get the sense of that? When I booked my ticket there was there was going to be one person over the other side of the cinema and four people a few rows in front of me. Then when I showed up, there was just the one person to the side and the other four people they didn't show up. Oh my god. They paid for the tickets though, didn't they? I mean, that's good.

Yeah, that's good. It's good for the movie Twister. That's right. What do you think the story was? Oh, come on, mate. Come on, mate. In that segment, did you ask Joel or Jackson what they thought the story was? I did actually. You were asleep under the table. I wasn't asleep. You were in the

SansPants studio recording it separately. Don't name where it is. Everybody knows where it is. Do they? I think so. Maybe bleep that out, Colleagues, just in case. We can ask them. We can't now, they can't now. Also it's really hard to get to. None of our listeners are taking the train in the bus or whatever. It's true. Anyway what do you think the story was? Okay so it's a remake of Twisters basically. Yeah. It's a remake of original Twister. There's some more junk science here. Yeah there is more junk. So this is um. All the data from Twister one is useless now. Look here's the thing I would say first off if you're like I don't want to watch this if it's a legacy sequel to twister It's not really no

There's I would say they've made the brave decision of not revealing at any point that any of these characters Their dad was Carrie Elwes or their mom was a girl Paxton or whatever. Yeah. Thank God You know, it's just they don't even shop and go. Hello, I'm Helen. You're doing you're doing a really good job. We've got a Twister commentary at Big Sandwich. You're doing almost as good as a job as I did in 1996. So we got we got some we got the movie opens with a bunch of a bunch of what do they call them? Twister heads? Yeah, storm chases. They're out there, they're a bunch of college kids and they're out there. They're going woo when they're chasing storms,

they're getting data, they've got all their doohickeys and gizmos and gadgets and they're gonna get out there and also they're young and they're in love and they're doing, they're in love with science and each other and they're having a great time. But guess what? Tragedy strikes. God, you knew that was gonna to happen, didn't you?

Yeah. Especially because she has a boyfriend at the start, Daisy Edgar Jones' character. But how's she going to be Glenn Powell's boyfriend later? You can't. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said. Glenn Powell's boyfriend. I know what you said. Yeah. Also, I think you don't need to see the first one at all.

There's hints towards it like there's there's like Dorothy, the the can, which has all the Twister data balls in it. The bin full of balls. Yeah, there's like and there's like there's there's like Dorothy the the can which has all the twisted data balls in it. The bin full of balls. Yeah. There's like and there's some. I would have called it Mr. Bin full of balls. But it's completely. I'd be like, no, call him Barry Bin full of balls. Mr. Bin full of balls was my father.

Wait, so you say calling him Barry Bin full of balls, but your dad is called. My dad is called Mr. Bin full of balls. But he's not Barry Binful of Bawls, but your dad is called... My dad is called Mr. Binful of Bawls. But he's not Barry Binful of Bawls' dad. Correct. That's correct? It's what you've said is correct. Anyway, this is also, and I know you love this, a classic snobs versus slobs scenario. It is snobs versus slobs.

Do you say slobs versus slobs? What did I hear that wrong? Because Ollie kicked the door in again. You did that and you're sick. Okay, yeah. It is a little bit slobs versus snobs, but maybe the slobs are a little bit slobs versus slobs. Do you say slobs versus slobs? Why did I hear that wrong? Because Ollie kicked the door in again. She did that and you're sick. Okay, yeah. It is a little bit slobs versus snobs, but maybe the slobs and the snobs aren't who you

think they are. That's right. There's a couple of, you know, this is so, so we, we, we fast forward a few years and our main character played by Daisy Edgar Jones, she's, she's, she's back in the big corporate world. She's not storm chasing anymore. She's report chasing. Yes. She's Excel spreadsheet chasing, but then Anthony Ramos from her past, one of the other survivors of the big twister.

Yeah, he's like you got to get back in the twister game. We need your expertise because you've got you've got a nose. You better not get scared. That's right. You get scared I'll be mad. That's right. Even though the twister killed everybody. That's right. Yeah, it was really really traumatic. It's pretty scary. Very Twister killed everybody. That's right. And I was there. Yeah, it was really, really traumatic actually. It was pretty scary. Very scary to be honest. TBH was very scary, but he's like, you've got to get your nose out of those spreadsheets and put your nose back into a tornado or whatever.

Which I guess is similar to Bill Paxton's character in the first one because he went to become a weatherman. That's true. And they were like, don't be a weatherman getting this weird car with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Yeah. All right, well I will because he's a fabulous actor. Yeah. Seems like a nice man.

So the two teams we're talking about, there's the corporate, the elite. You'd think that Anthony Ramos and Daisy Edgar Jones were part of the slobs. Yeah. But they're the snobs. They've got the shiny white vehicles. That's right. They've got Superman with them. That's right.

They've got David Corrin sweats. This movie is filled with, you know, it's got your stars in Anthony Ramos and Daisy Edgar Jones and Glenn Powell, but it's also got a bunch of people you like. I know that guy. Yeah. And also David Corrin sweat is there. And you're like, was he Balkan during this movie? Did they have to keep buying him increasingly large short sleeved white shirts? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think of him actually? Because I haven't really seen him in much. Neither have I, but I thought he's...

I like him. I'm like, this guy's got a pop to him. Yeah, he certainly does. I like him. Even though he's a big button down kid. Yeah, so Anthony Ramos is like, well, in the five years where I haven't seen you, I've been in the military. I don't have a ponytail.

I won't elaborate what branch of the military and you won't ask. So I don't even worry about it. Oh, he said something to do with data something, didn't he? Yeah, yeah. Oh, but he didn't say specifically what. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

But it doesn't matter. And he's like, well, I'll build this business and we're going to be getting all the data on Storm Chasin and we want you to be in there because we can do a lot of good. And she's like, all right, I guess I will. But they're in the shiny white cars, but also on the opposing team of slobs. We've got Glenn Powell and he's a YouTuber. Yuck. Gross.

Disgusting. Quite frankly. I want to talk about how their business model works because it doesn't make any sense unless they have a big Patreon. Anyway, go on. They have a big Patreon. I should have mentioned it then. Yeah.

Go on though. There's all sorts of fun names for the... That's's true mighty there's the amite there's the mighty wind tear oh yeah there's the pop and off tear there's a bit of a dollar a month yeah there's a bit of a whoosh a bit of a wish that's two dollars yeah yeah so the big gas bag here they're all farty puns. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, go on. Anyway, he's a YouTuber. Yuck. And his whole team, they're out there, they're wild cowboys and they just want to get in those twisters and they want to shoot fireworks up them and take photos with the fans and

get out there. And they've got a whole entourage of crazy fans and there's just a lot of enthusiasts out there who are also following the storms. But there's storms and that's the enemy. Yeah, that's right. Gotta watch out for those storms. They don't specifically say it's related to climate change? Oh, there is a moment where they say-

I know they're like, there's more storms than ever and whatever, but they're not like- I think we'll talk about it in the spoilers. There's also a line later on, right towards the end of the movie where I'm like, huh, interesting. Okay. I'll go on. Talk about it. Yeah. There's also a line later on, right towards the end of the movie where I'm like, huh, interesting. Okay. I'll go on. Talk about it.

Anyway, we have more subscribers than these guys. They're like, we just got a million subscribers. There's like nine people on that team. So they chase storms and then they shoot rockets into them for YouTube and they live stream it. And then they also they sell t-shirts and also they're a charity. And I just think as a business model Yeah, thank you that level of popularity. Yeah. Also, I think people would get sick of this. I don't think this is a sustainable Practice interest going into a storm one month of the year. Oh, yeah shooting rockets and then going

Yeah, I don't think there's enough maybe it's just people sign up for the patreon they don't cancel Yeah, I mean, so they're getting a continuous income all year. Yeah, I like that, you know, they don't think there's enough to it. Maybe it's just people sign up for the Patreon, they don't cancel. You know what I mean? So they're getting a continuous income all year. Yeah, I like that. You know, they don't think about it. They're like, that's a dollar a month, whatever, but they've got a lot of those. You shouldn't think about it. You don't think about it.

Yeah, you might be right. Yeah. So I don't know, I just don't think it can be a profitable business model. I think that I would have liked more statistics in terms of their revenue. I reckon on hats alone, they're going to blow away in the tornado. You are spending a packet on hats, you know? I also felt that, obviously they were sometimes playing it up for the cameras, but it would have been hard to maintain their level of tornado enthusiasm. There's a lot of hooting

and hollering. Absolutely. And it's not just when the cameras are on. They're always hooting. And I feel like just settle down a bit, all right? Yeah, yeah, like I know you're excited. Just take a take a breath But I mean more realistically what they should have done They just be driving up to the location of the tornado in total silence. They're like, how's your day? You're pretty good

How's your kids in a good right? All right, you hit record. Okay record backups on camera was dreaming. Whoo Exactly, I can subscribe And then cameras off total silence camera was streaming. Exactly. Like and subscribe. Woo. Let's do it. And then cameras off. Total silence. Go to Red Rooster. That's right. Red Twister. Wow. I think they get a Twister combo.

But that's it. I don't like how they over explain some of the signs like multiple times because they're trying to set up they're trying to get new data by triangulating the data by setting up three points. I didn't. I didn't like how they over explain some of the signs like multiple times because they're trying to set up They're trying to get new data by triangulating the data by setting up three points I didn't I didn't feel like we gotta put one and then we and there's another part where they're like the very start where They're explaining like how tornadoes work to each other and it's like you all know how tornadoes work Yeah, but I I didn't feel overwhelmed Don't do that, that's not how a tornado works, this is how a tornado works

I mean I think to me it's probably like oh oh I like all these characters and you know they're fine. I'm fine then I guess. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't matter. That's fine. What about this though? So it's bigger effects than the first one. Yeah right. They've got wind machines galore, there's fire tornadoes and double tornadoes and things and places being thrown about. Absolutely. Did you feel it matched or maybe even surpassed that of the first one? Yes. I think there's more because you have to practical stuff in the first one, right? Okay. Yeah.

Which I think lends like a level of realism. There's a few like sweeping shots of like, um, a total destruction, which kind of like, well, they couldn't have done that entirely. And it made, you know, made me go, well, then, you know, they CGI this, not that that's a bad thing necessarily. But what I liked about the first one is like, you had to just wreck a bunch of real stuff. But not for all of it,

because there's a bunch of effects in that. Sometimes just teeny weeny stuff. Yeah, exactly, yeah. But no, I think on the most part, it's a fairly convincing and enthralling. I was never unconvinced. No, you're never like, this looks like shit. And there are some ropey effects in the first one, of course because it's been a 30 30 years old and now

There's that there's some more like pseudoscience as well. Okay, right the focus on this is what was it? It's how did how to stop a tornado? Yeah, so our main character Daisy Edgar Jones is character name. I will not recall Yeah, she has always had this idea that if you you She has always had this idea that if you, you, um, she, some sort of polymer compounds, some sort of pseudoscience polymer compound, uh, and you, you, you put it on the back of a truck, a bunch of drums of this stuff and it gets sucked up into the tornado and they're looking for a way to break up tornadoes and shut them down before they cause too much havoc. And you didn't buy it?

No, it's not that I didn't buy it. It was, it was fine. Yeah. It was fine, Mason. I mean, if we're talking bullshit pseudo-science or whatever, and maybe there are some elements of truth to it, maybe Superman could have just used his X-ray vision and stopped them all. Because that makes about as much sense, Mason. Unless there's some kind of logic behind this that I'm not familiar with, because this is 100% not my area. You are not a scientist. And I didn't look into it.

You have a business degree. I agree. And teaching. I agree. Also Glenn Powell has a literal trolley car problem happens to him. Oh really, that's right. Well him and some others. Yeah. But it's not literal in the sense that there's two choices to be made Mason. I just mean he gets smushed by a trolley car at one point for a bit. It's true. He does to do some spoilers Yeah, I think I think so. I think best movie ever. I agree. This is a good I think it's gonna do well. This is a good summer flick that we saw in winter. Yeah. Yeah, but a bit of fun Yep, you know good characters. It's not gonna It's not gonna blow you away in terms of you know, a big twist or anything like that

You know, it's it's uh, it's fairly you know, it is a little like we talked about axle F last week It's it's not gonna you know, it is it is pretty by the numbers, but I think it's very charming Yeah, and the action sequences are good and tense. They're not as funny as the first one. Maybe you're right. It's not it is. Yeah Yeah, I don't even know whether that's true. Yeah, do we have a we don't have a funny like, you know We had we had Philip Seymour Hoffman. Yeah first one. We don't have a whenever that's true. Yeah. Do we have a, we don't have a funny like, you know, we had, we had Philip Seymour Hoffman in the first one. We don't have a, we don't have a wacky dude really in this one. Not as much.

No. But again, I liked it. I liked the cruise. Yeah. I'm going to say best movie ever also. Some spoilers. Okay. So the snobs group are actually working for a big corporate.

They're working for Big Boss Hogg. And I think I would have loved at the end to, because he was buying up all the land, which was wrecked by tornadoes. Yeah, that's right. So they, Anthony Ramos' character, he needed funding to get his big, shiny, white corporate storm chasing company off the ground. And so he's partnered up with this land developer. So they go and they get the data from the storms and they

pass it all along to this guy and he goes to the people who've had their land and homes destroyed and he says, I'll give you a quick cash now kind of thing. But why does he need the data? So he can determine where to strike next? Probably, maybe something like that. Yeah. Be like, oh, I'll get land here or whatever. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I wish at the end, like he got his comeuppance and then he threw his hat on the ground right stomped on it Yeah, but we did get David are current sweat getting covered in mud. We did surely is good I think he should have just used his x-ray vision. Yeah wouldn't have happened. Don't you think there was there is a line in this movie?

That's just struck me again. This is the moment you're talking about earlier where yes it was no This is a different one. Oh, but there's a moment where Anthony Ramos says, this theatre wasn't built for what's coming. And it's like, you're not going to put that in the trailer? You're seriously not going to put that in the trailer? Like, this theatre's going to explode! Maybe. Because they're in a movie theatre.

Yeah. And the Twister is coming. And you could show the theatre screen fall down and then the Twister is happening. You can do that in the theatre, because that's what happens in the movie. Maybe they're saving it for, you know, you know, sometimes they'll do that the trailer with the critics are raising a twister They've got that in the chamber this theater is gonna explode and everyone's gonna die Everyone in the cinema is gonna die like you and you and you you're gonna die You're gonna die. Oh, no, that's bad. That's right.

You're killed by a twister. Oh no, that's bad. It's something I think would have been funny because Daisy Edgar Jones' character, whose name we don't know, her boyfriend at the start gets sucked up by a twister. It's Kate. Yeah, she's finding struggle. They struggle in loving again and getting back into the twister game. And finally, Glenn Powell, who's actually a good guy.

That's right. He's doing charity and not just YouTube. Which people can do. I'm bleeding money out of this company. I'm giving people free water and stuff. But I'm slick. I thought it would have been really funny that there's a moment where he kind of encourages her

to get back into science and love tornadoes again. And they run into the field and they're like, they're like, woo, we love tornadoes. And I love, she's like, I love weather. And it's like, there's a song going, it's like, it's a rock and roll country time. like, like, we love tornadoes and I love, she's like, I love weather and I, and it's like, there's a song on this, like it's a rock and roll country time. And then I would have loved if she was just like, just like sucked up in the middle of it. Yeah.

Just gone. Yeah. Look, if they still made like Zucker brothers movies this year, that would be that exact thing would happen. It'd be a twister's moment. And I'd love it. There'd be a Twisters moment. And I'd love it. He'd be sucked off into the sky. And I'd love it.

You'd love it. I think you'd be like, this movie was made for me. I'm the target audience for Zucker Brothers parody movies, you would say. Paul Shears did it as well. He is, very briefly, yeah. I wondered, he probably has. Would he have talked about the first one in How Did This Get Made? I bet he has.

Let me check. I don't know if they have actually. Anyway, at the end of the movie, at the very end of the movie, Kate realizes there was a flaw in her chemical mixture that was to destroy the tornadoes that had run in the past. And she says she's mixed up a new batch of the good stuff that used tornado, anti tornado goop. And she's like, and everybody's in the theater that's going to be destroyed because of how powerful the movie Twisters is. And everybody's cowering in there and they're doing their best to keep people indoors and

what have you. And she's like, I'm going to get in the truck and I'm going to drive to the twister. And then all the goop gets sucked up. And just in the truck and I'm going to drive to the twister and then all the goop gets sucked up and just in the last instance before some of the slobs crew are going to get blown away by the twister. It unspins itself and it's gone. And then at the end of the movie, Anthony Ramos is dropping off Daisy Edgar Jones' character at the airport and he's like, now some people are going to say that this was something else. Some people are are gonna say maybe it was the fire at the refinery or you didn't do it you didn't do it or it just and that you're a loser it just just the tornado just cut out by itself you ran into you drove out to a tornado for no reason for pseudo quack science quite frankly you drove you

drove you drove your truck into a twister for the the twister equivalent of being a chiropractor You cracked its back yeah, and it fixed it fixed its tin here or whatever absolutely So do you think if there is a sequel to this and I feel like sorry to all the chiropractors out there named Kate Sorry, they're gonna shot at you absolutely you are so if there is a sequel to this, then it's Twisters with two S's. Yeah, yeah. Twisters apostrophe? Yeah, I was going to that the reason I was going to say that it's just because they can't leave this. They can't make they can't change the world in the movie. So it's radically

different from the real world. So you can't just be like, well, now we've got a tank that you can you can just shoot a rocket into a tornado and it'll dissipate. You know, you can't change the world like that. So they're gonna have, if they do another twisters, they're gonna have to, they're either gonna have to become tornado destroyers driving around and what have you, or they're gonna have to be like, well, actually, the world's run out of that chemical. So you can't do that. Or it doesn't work because of too much global warming. out of that chemical. Yeah. So you can't do that anymore. Or it doesn't work because of too much global warming. Too much global warming.

Perfect. It's happened too much. It's hit peak global warming something. Let's talk about sequels. There's a moment at the start when they're in New York City. Oh, New York City, baby. And there's a woman explaining to kids that like, there's never been a twister in New York City.

And I'm like, hmm, if that's not in this movie, I feel like there's going to be like Twisters take Manhattan. Like we've got to rig the Statue of Liberty to punch a tornado out of the air or whatever. Do you think that would be, I mean not the logical step, but is that where you go for the next one? You take it into the big city? You'd have to. I think this one- Like a Quiet Place Day one?

Yeah, I think this one is predominantly, you know, it is it's it's the legacy sequel It's the reboot so you need to go. Okay. Well, we're doing it rural style Yeah, and for the and then you go up the ante for the sequel. So absolutely New York City, baby Yeah, all right. And yeah, we'll probably see that in the next it's not of time. There's tornadoes happening everywhere Look, there's one happening at the Sydney Harbor Bridge when opera House is there. When do you think we're gonna get... Yay, they stopped it. We're under Sydney Opera House. We love that.

When you think we're gonna get Glenn Pell, like people are gonna get sick of him. Oh, great question. Because this always happens. People are like, I'm sick of saying this prick. I'm sick of his face. Let me, let's, I'm gonna check. Let's see what he's up coming. Pro, pro, pro, projects.

Yeah, man. See what they say. I mean, he was in a bunch of stuff that people didn't see like devotion. It was in hit man Apparently in the Dark Knight arises He's got One more movie. No, he's a producer on the blue angels, which I assume is about this That's not a um, it's a documentary Twisters and he's gonna be in a movie called Huntington, which is currently filming. So I think it It's a documentary. Yeah. Twisters and he's going to be in a movie called Huntington, which is currently filming. So I think it'll be a while.

I don't think he's going to. It doesn't strike me as somebody who's going to, you know. Yeah. He's just done a lot of movies. Yeah. Of like, well, you know, Top Gun and other things. But yeah, I guess he's more kind of a, you just see him around a lot, don't you? Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. He's had a good run thus far. But yeah, I mean, but also I kind of feel like he, but again, like movie star charisma doesn't, he's got it, I think, but it doesn't, it doesn't wear out as much as like a character actor appearance or like a, just a guy, you know? But also there are not everybody seeing every, anyone,

but you and also Hitman and also Twisters. Most people are probably seeing one or the other. You know what I mean? That's a really good point. Anyways, check it out! Check it out! Check it out! Do you want to move to the next segment of the show?

Let's move to the next segment of the show. What is it? It's what we're reading. What are we going to read? Alright then. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Alright, I read a comic, Mason.

We did it for Boo Club. It's coming out next week. Tell me about it. It's called Aliens Labyrinth. Oh yes. It's one of the best, or was it Alien Labyrinth? It's Aliens Labyrinth. Okay cool, thank god.

Then we said it right in the recording of that. Basically because there's a new Alien movie coming out, we looked at one of the best Alien comics and just talked about the kind of the comics in general. This wasn't supposed to be an ad, but it's just a comic that I liked reading. I think people should read if you are interested in the Alien universe. It's not your standard, it's the movie Aliens. Yeah, absolutely. But it's in a comic.

Which is the fallback position, isn't it, for a lot of those comics. And I said on the episode when we recorded it that the Dark Horse era of alien comics. You said I did a good job. I did. You did do a good job. Thanks man. I think the Dark Horse era of aliens comics like that mid 90s era, tremendous. Yeah.

Because there's no real rules they have to follow. Just tell it. But it all works. Yeah it does. For the most part. Yeah. I like it. You're rereading another thing? Is that the only thing? I watched a comedy special on YouTube.

My friend Laura Davis, comedian. Yeah, I like Laura Davis. Cool, I'm going to check this out. Very good comedian. I saw her special, If This Is It, during the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. And there is a recorded version. It's on YouTube. Is that the new one she did this year?

Because I also saw that and it was delightful. And now that's available. When you say delightful, I mean it is about like the ills of capitalism and the world ending and stuff. But it's fun. But it's good. Yeah, it is good, right? I liked it a lot.

It was really, really good. And I got to meet her with Claire very briefly before the show. I was like, wow, this is great. It's great. Here's part of the review. This is from the live show. This is the Chortle review. If this is it is a primal, defined, guttural howl about the toxicity of capitalism, the

monetization of rage and fear, misogyny, culture wars, the perils of undervaluing art, the destruction of the climate, the creeping onset of a neo-fascist state, and so much more. That doesn't make it sound like it's very fun. I'm going to skip a bit and then it says it's also very funny. Yes. So if this is it, that's what it's called. Yeah, yeah, skip a bit and then it says it's also very funny. Cool cool. All right, yeah, check that out. Also, next week we're probably gonna do both the Acolyte and the Boys, which are wrapping up. I think they're both wrapping up this week. I might be wrong about that, but I think that's right. And you said they're wrapping up with a crossover, right? The Boys are gonna beat up the Acolyte right? Thank God. So yeah

so that's gonna be episode 8 of the boys is on July 18th. Okay well I'm up I'm up to date on the boys I'm not up to date on the Acolyte so I'll speed run that. Yep hang on I'm just checking I think the Acolyte has one episode left also yeah on July 16th. So yeah there we go that's our episode next week covered thank God Mason. Thank God. We don't have to spend money at the cinemas because we've got these free apps that we put on our television. I love a free app.

And they dispense content to us. Bloody, I mean YouTube's great, isn't it? Yeah, it is. We say this every year. I think every year at the end of the year we do our famous awards that mean nothing. And we always say best streaming service. And it's almost always YouTube. Absolutely.

Because it's just got niche video essays and old computer games. Loons, Mason. It's got loons. We make videos about Loom. Yeah, that's right. You know, a video game that I played once in the 90s. Oh yeah. Do we move it along?

Let's move it along. The letters. Yeah, man. The classic one was, Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day my way. We're not here right now, we're gonna do letters. If you do want to reach the show, hashtag Weekly Planet Pot on Twitter or weeklyplanetpotatgmail.com

and coming up on the outside, we're gonna blablabla. No. Blablabla. Oh no. He's got racetrack announcer disease. I knew it. Starting sunshine, blablabla. Look at the barn, blablabla.

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Definitely horse hell. Horse racing sucks, Mason. This is an email from Jesus. Hi James and Mace, oh Jesse here. Hey! I've been a fan of the Weekly Planet since I saw James's Winter Soldier review. A while ago, 10 years ago. Which he said it was the worst movie ever because he wasn't wearing a scarf. Yeah and then my YouTube channel got deleted because of that video.

Terrific. Yeah I remember. Jesse says, I've always wanted to travel to catch one of your guys live shows and once James announced the London show and it gave me enough time to take that time off from work, I quickly got plane tickets and a hotel room. I'm coming from California. Oh no. That is 5,364.21 miles or 8,632.87 kilometers.

Does that make me the most traveled listener? If I can also ask for a shout out from a great man of mine, Emily is a fantastic person, a huge fan of both of you, and hearing you guys give her a shout out would mean so much here. Shout out to Emily then. Thank you sir. Oh god, that's a lot of pressure that you just put on me. I know, right? If you haven't done that yet, don't do it. I don't encourage it. Oh, you mean other people?

No, I appreciate it. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate it. Don't get me wrong, Mason. I appreciate it. What a trip. But I mean, to some degree, James, you're also going overseas. I'm going even further than him.

Because you just wanted to go overseas. Well, that's part of it. Yeah. So that's that is part of it. So like, I imagine Jesse here is just like, let's say you're tripping to go to London. So the London Eye. I hope you do. Go to the O2 arena. See you too at the O2 arena. Exactly. Yeah. Good point. Well, anyway, looking forward to seeing you in the crowd. Yeah. I'll know. Yep. You'll be exhausted. You'll have big American energy. You'll have a neck pillow on. You should be flying a long time. This is more of a PSA, this is from Big Money PT. So the time codes in the weekly planet pod on Spotify, at least are wrong. I got spoiled. What we're going to read section, sad face. So this happens every now and then.

On different platforms, they run different ads that I don't, and Collings who edits this control, like Spotify in particular, they run ads that have nothing to do with us and we don't get paid for. We don't know when they're going to appear or what they are. They go, and then they just add appears and then it's sometimes it's like three ads in a row. And sometimes there's a cast ads for that as well. But even those, we can't cater to those because...

Sometimes it's like, you should invest in copper. And I'm like, should? Alright. Where's the link? I gotta click on this link. So that is... I mean even with the Acast ones, they don't go... which is the ones we either record or they put in. We don't know specifically even which podcast it's going to go into because they dynamically insert them. And I know that's annoying. So I think the, and Collin's answered this, but I thought he's thought out to everybody. You probably want to skip a couple of minutes ahead if you have any spoilers. I know it's a pain in the ass. YouTube's probably safest

with like an ad blocker. Oh, that's true. Yeah. We've got YouTube premium, which you are more than welcome to do or big sandwich.co. Oh yeah. Big sandwich is all that free. That's that free, isn't it? Yeah. Just, yeah, just so you com. Oh yeah. Or big sandwiches. That's that for a reason. Yeah. But yeah, just, uh, yeah, just very convenient. Yeah. Yeah. Very convenient. What about you Mason? His name is from Cameron.

He's listening from Glasgow in Scotland. Glasgow. Just wanted to say I love all the content you provide. I'm a fairly recent big sandwich dot com subscriber and I cannot be happy with all the extra content I have to listen to and watch. Cameron's real by the way. Unless you've emailed this in. I didn't say it wasn't real.

All right, great. Is he not real? No, I'm just saying it sounds like an ad. Oh okay yeah yeah yeah yeah. You know but I haven't done this and you haven't done this. I didn't do it. Maybe Collin's did it? Did he make up a guy? Let's ask him. Okay. I was wondering if you'd ever cover- Well ask him now because he can hear this. Oh yeah. Collin did you do this? Did you do it? One beep for yes two beeps for no. That's good. I was wondering if you'd ever cover Big Trouble in Little China on Carry Run and Garbage or the Escape from New York comic crossover for the big sandwich classic, because there's an Escape from New York Big Trouble in Little China crossover.

I did not know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't ever seen Big Trouble in Little China, so I'll start with that. Yeah. Now, some people also wonder about this as a generality. We usually do, like if there was a new big Kurt Russell movie coming out, we would absolutely cover Big Trouble and Little Shine. Yeah.

I mean maybe we should have with... When he does Tombstone 2. When he does Tombstone 2, yeah. Two tombstones. Tombstones. Two tombstones. Tombstones. Yeah.

Yeah. Or maybe we should have done it when they released the Monsterverse TV series. Maybe. But it's too late. Maybe we'll just do like 80s fun ones. We can do some 80s fun ones. Yeah, or we maybe we should have done it when they released the monster verse TV series. Hey, babe It's too late. Maybe it's um, maybe we'll just do like 80s fun ones And I just made his fun one at some point. Yeah. Yeah, like I mean we Some weeks we just do whatever is fun. Yeah, that's a thing we thought of but a lot of the time it is In lead up to something covering the No, it is an algorithm, but it's also like, oh, I'd love to revisit all the Wolverine

movies or the Alien movies. You know, Alien Romulus is coming up, so it'd be nice to get a grounding in. Yeah. Usually, and especially if it's like a blockbuster or a legacy sequel or, you know, something in a franchise and what have you. It's often, we often lament like, oh, you know, there was a scene in this movie. I wonder if it was a reference to the old movie. We didn't have a chance to watch it.

So, so, you know, it was a scene in this movie, I wonder if it was a reference to the old movie, we didn't have a chance to watch it. So, so you know, it's good to it's good to I mean, maybe that the rock big trouble little China movie get every guess. Oh, yeah, definitely. I have a tweet with a similar kind of aesthetic, let's say my yes from Pogo Soho says hashtag with your final part do hot rod for Caravan of garbage, please. It's a really good movie. Cheers and good day. Oh, we could do all the lonely island movies. We generally don't do comedies because we can't be funnier than that.

And I mean, we have done we did that fast and furious like knockoff. Yeah. But that was more like this is bad. And yeah, we feel bad about that. Yeah, I do anyway. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't love making fun of... No, and I just... And we love making fun of... Comedies are hard to talk about also, kind of.

I agree, because we can only go, this is funny. This is funny. We like the scene where this happened and it was funny. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got another letter, Mason. I got one more email here. It's from Nathan.

Hey gents, I just listened to the latest pod where Mason mentioned watching Prisoners. I watch Prisoners. Good movie? Yeah. It's great Do you want to talk about more next week? Maybe in what we reading? Yeah I mean I mentioned no, but to see I mentioned last week that I said I was gonna watch it Okay, now I have watched it. So it's great and we're off. We're past the what we were eating second I'm saying you can save for next week. I'm saying for next week. I could love to hear your thoughts on my goodness Uh and wanted to get your thoughts on Prisoners. My goodness. And wanted to get your thoughts on what Denis Villeneuve should tackle next.

Do you think he should stick to sci-fi or go back to his roots with a small-scale thriller? And also, can I be the official nuclear training expert of the podcast? Yes. What are you, Homer Bloody Simpson? Homer Simpson? What are you, any of the characters in the TV series Chernobyl? They all died, I think. Yeah, what was the question?

Sci-fi, or another thing. Whatever. Whatever he wants to do. Yeah. Yeah, what was the question? Sci-fi or another thing? Yeah, whatever, whatever he wants to do. Yes, smaller story. Why not? Like I mean, as you said, prisoners you watch recently is incredible. It looks as if the next thing he's going to do is dune in three. It seems that way. Well, because someone who's very easily swayed by the last thing you watched, I reckon another

small things like a prisoners two. Okay. You know, two prisoners. Two prisoners. Two prisoners is probably a better way to put it. Two prisoners to okay, you know to two prisoners To prisoners to yeah prisoners to I think so is that the show that is the whole show thank you so much for listening We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners It's true for leaving a five star review on your podcast catcher all the choice That's right. And if you do that, James will read one out on the podcast. I'm gonna do these two right now

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