The Weekly Planet - 538 Deadpool & Wolverine and SDCC 2024

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

It's the biggest week of the year (for this podcast) with our review of Deadpool & Wolverine and San Diego Comic Con 2024 with the return of Robert Downey Jr as Doctor Doooooooooooom. Plus we talk news for Invincible Season 3 and 4 and more The Boys spin-off, new trailers for Transformers One, Joker 2, Creature Commando's and Rebel Moon: Rude Edition, a new DC logo, a look at Captain America: Brave New World, Thunderbolts*, Fantastic Four Movie: First Steps and the Russo Brothers returning for Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars. Thanks for listeningNew video game let's play out now! James & Maso play Alien: Colonial Marines for Never Go Back. Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Maybe skip an extra few minutes.00:00 The Start02:29 Invincible Season 3 Latest03:53 The Boys S5. Gen V S2 & Vought Rising Prequel08:49 Transformers One Trailer11:57 Michael Bay Skibidi Toilet Movie14:13 Rebel Moon Director's Cut Trailer19:10 New DC Logo & Creature Commando's Trailer22:45 Joker Folie A Deux Trailer28:05 Marvel at SDCC 2024 (No Deadpool Spoilers)29:08 Captain America: Brave New World & Thunderbolts* Latest34:43 Fantastic Four Movie: First Steps Title & First Footage Revealed37:42 New Avengers Movie Titles & Russo Bros. Returning41:45 Robert Downey Jr. Returns to the MCU as Doctor DoomPlease be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Maybe skip an extra few minutes.53:35 Deadpool & Wolverine Review01:14:10 Deadpool & Wolverine Spoiler Section01:27:01 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:31:36 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me as always, it's a very hyped, it's a very excited Nick Mason. Hello. It's Comic Con Mason. It's a big week for just stuff isn't it? No, you say woo. No I'm not doing that. Oh wow look at Mr. Mature over here he's too good for the content which made him. That's right. Look at this. I am. Just wait for my Deadpool and Wolverine review James. Oh my god. But I was gonna say it's a big week it's a big week for Marvel. It is isn't it say it's a big week for Marvel.

It is, isn't it? It's also a week for DC. It's a week for DC. They've got some stuff coming up. Don't worry about that. It's a week for Image. Yeah. Also, I'm not above that.

I just forgot that I say woo. Oh, did you? When we do conventions. It's been a long time in between. Yeah. SDCC's Marvel didn't... They have happened, but they've been a smaller affair. Yes. Now it's huge.

It's big again. It was a drone show. It was a drone, there were drones and then there was a Galactus and whatever. Marvel brought out the drone show and DC were like, look at this t-shirt. Look at these t-shirts we've got. Oh, pretty good too though, right? I agree, yeah. So yeah, if you're doing a skip to anything in particular, including our Deadpool and

Wolverine review, you can, but of course there's some other stuff we want to talk about. We've got news related to Image, including the boys and Inine review you can but of course there's some other stuff we want to talk about we've got news and related to image Including the boys and invincible season 4 and then some boys spin-off stuff Mason's right but trailers for Transformers 1 yes and rebel moon directors cut. Yep good There's a new DC logo for the studio. We've got a creatures come out creature commando trailer We've got a Creatures Commando trailer. We've got a Joker 2 trailer. It should be Creatures Commando, shouldn't it? Creatures Commando. It should be like Attorneys General. That's right.

Creatures Commando. And there's a bunch of MCU stuff. We'll talk briefly, I guess, about the Deadpool and Wolverine panel. I just want to talk about how they just brought out all the cameos. They did, didn't they? What an interesting choice. But I can't put them in a thumbnail, Mason. That's right.

Ridiculous. You'd go to prison. Yeah. Then we're going to talk about Captain America Brave New World Thunderbolts because there was some stuff from that. Fantastic Ford. There's some footage that leaked. Captain's Courageous. What's that? Captain's Courageous is mandolin. That's exactly what it is. Thank you. Thank you. And then we're going to talk about of course the next Avengers film and a big news. That's such a big news. With the returning of Robert Downey Jr. in a role that you might not think Mason

You've probably heard some things, but it's he's actually not returning as Iron Man Iron Man I want you I want you to think about what you think about that put a pin in it We'll come back. Okay, I'll think about it. Okay, but then we'll come back to it. Okay. All right, let's start with this again time Goes below. Thank you Collings who edits this. Thank you Collings. Okay. So first of all, we got a poster for season three of invincible Oh, he's got the he's got the blue suit all the all blue suit. Yeah, that's right Now Robert Kirkman talked about how like and if you've read the comics, which I have not to brag That it's a very dark era of the character It's a like if you've if he's been through some stuff and if you've been watching it, but I'm really tough crook stuff

Yeah, there's even crooker and rougher stuff line to look forward to. So the season three poster, I'm sorry, it's going to come out they reckon the first half of 2025. Okay. I hope they don't split it up. They probably will like they did with the last season. They will because they can. They will because they can. Now you have to watch more Amazon based ads. Oh yeah. Because they added ads to Amazon Prime. You have to pay more to get rid of that or you just can't. It's an extra $250. $250. That's right. A minute. An ad. A minute. It's an ad or a minute. They present the first ad and they go, you want to get rid of this? It's either $250 an ad or $250 a minute. And you're like,

I don't know which to choose. I don't know. And it's like, if you don't click one of these, you'll get ads forever. And you're like, I don't know. I don't know. There's a ticket grab timer. Yeah, there's a timer. And it's like, if you don't click one of these, you'll get ads forever. And you're like, I don't know. I don't know how many ads there are going to be. But jokes on you, they charge you both. Oh, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's the illusion of choice.

And that's what we like. Yeah. You know? We do that, don't we? Yeah. Because we say to people, they don't have to listen, but they have to listen. You have to listen. You go to prison if you don't.

That's right. You go to prison. And then of course we got news that Gen V season two is coming in 2025 which I think we knew because of course the boys season five is coming the year after. And we're also getting another spin-off. Oh before we talk about that but Chance Crawford's the DP is joining the cast of. You mean Chase Crawford? Chase Crawford yeah. Chance Crawford is a different guy that you've made up. I haven't made up anybody all the things that I say are real. He's a parallel universe Chase Crawford who's addicted to gambling. Wow. I don't know if the real Chase Crawford's addicted to gambling.

They could both be addicted to gambling. One guy's got an extra letter in his name. Otherwise they're the same guy. That's right. Just quickly before we talk about the new spin-off, Jensen Ackles will return for the boys season five, which is not a surprise because if you saw the end of boys season four, he's in it. He's in it, yeah. Yeah, or they took some footage of him from a previous season and put him in it.

Yeah, with a complicated system of mirrors to make it look like he's in a booth. How'd they do that? Now, I also maybe read a rumor that Jared Padalecki, also late of Supernatural, might be in this. Yes, I don't think we know in what capacity, but yes. Now, some people have said, based based entirely I think on vibes and haircut Yeah, he's gonna be an adult version of Ryan. Oh, yeah, because otherwise it's so that mean they're gonna they jump forward in time I jump forward in time or maybe he's got maybe he can age himself up somehow, you know Yeah, maybe there's some time stuff going on. There's a boost to time periods. Oh, yeah, maybe there's both. Yeah

I don't hate that idea Based on vibes and haircuts. Yeah, because they've both got the curtain look they do Don't know Jared Pettilecki's rockin now probably a walker Texas Ranger haircut. Well, he was that's all they are like they canceled it Yeah much to Everybody's chagrin Everybody chagrin have you watched a single depending on value your value of chagrin, I guess. Okay. I've not watched a single second of that Why would I I don't know? I don't know. Maybe it's something that you'd watch. Maybe I'm a Jared Padaleika. Are you? No. Why? You don't like him. Also that sounds weird now that I've said it out

loud. You're allowed to say things out loud. This is a podcast. It's required. Anyways, you were right. There is a, the boys another. Say I'm a proud Padaleika. You're a proud Padaleika. No, say that you are. I'm not though. Yeah, I'm not either No, I like sounds weird. I like so you're a proud pad. I like I liked Supernatural a lot for some of it. Okay, and then I dropped off but I still like it. Okay Bought rising is a fire at a file. No, I'm just I would not interest. Would you say that? I wouldn't say that either. Would you say it about me? Well, you did say you really do enjoy his work on supernatural doesn't I don't want it I don't do this

All right We're just we're just riffin with Some of it some of it some of it's not right. I'm a said bought rising. Yes You know about the concept ideas. So this is a this is a prequel to the boys and it's gonna feature Yes. You heard about the concept of this? I did. So this is a prequel to The Boys and it's going to feature Soldier Boy and Iacash's character who's in... Stormfront slash Liberty. Liberty. There we go.

A Nazi. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. It's going to be set in 1950s New York and Kripke says it's a twisted murder mystery about the oranges of Vought in the 50s. 50s the early exploits... A twisty misty. Yeah, that's right. The early exploits of Soldier Boy and the diabolical maneuvers of a super known to fans as Stormfront, who was then going by the name of Clara Vought.

We cannot wait to blow your minds and trouble your souls with the salacious Grizzly saga drenched in blood and compound V. What do you think about that? Sounds fun and gross. Okay, great. I'm thinking Agent Carter, because that was set in the 50s. That's true. It all looked like that.

Yeah, it will look like that. Sepia-toned. Sepia-toned. Different. How do you feel about these two characters who we know die much later? Good. Yeah I mean, I mean no matter what, you know bad stuff Stormfront gets up to we'll be like, yeah She got beaten to death. Yeah, although she got beaten nearly to death and then a boy lasered her limbs off Yeah, and then she choked to death to death on her own tongue. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, you know hospital bed Yeah, so that's all cool. She got Anakin Skywalker basically, but she didn't come back in the way that he did.

No, that's true. Yeah, he had a pretty good run after he got Anakin Skywalker. So on front, less so. Yeah, not great for her. Okay, but I mean, they are certainly colorful characters. How do you feel about this universe going forever considering that season five will be the main line. I think it's interesting is that for a show that makes fun of like endless spin offs and and yeah extended universes they're doing that now.

How do you do that for like a show in the 50s? I mean you don't right? You go in a different direction yeah you can't just be like can you believe corporations and whatever? Hmm I think there'll certainly be an advertisement for cigarettes. Oh my god. Like you know every episode will be like um Brand cigarette bought brand cigarettes eat as many cigarettes as you can. That's right doctor. What'll make you? Get a prescription for sport brand cigarettes. Wait you need a prescription for cigarettes in the 50s. It's an alternate 50s Oh, okay. I hate that I like being able to go to the store and buy my cigarettes Mason

Eat as many as I can, which is a lot. We got a trailer, of course, then. Anyway, more boys stuff. Let's go. Why not? Yeah, absolutely. Just do until you can. Yeah. So there's probably at least eight more years of the boys stuff, I would say. Eight more, do you think? Yeah. We'll be 50. Nearly? Mason, Transformers 1 got a brand new trailer.

Yeah. Look, and I did watch it, but again, this isn't the movie for us. Nearly? Mason, Transformers 1 got a brand new trailer. Look, and I did watch it, but again, this isn't the movie for us. Well, I don't know if it is Mason because it's got a great response. And when things get a great response, you know what that means. We have to talk about them. That's right. Matt Nigelia of Next Best Pictures said, I almost cannot believe I'm saying this, but Transformers 1 is by far and away the best Transformers film to date. Russ Milheim of the Direct said, the animation was

beautiful and immensely satisfying to watch. Now is this based on the trailer or have they seen the movie? No, no, they've seen it. They've seen the movie. Art direction and world building overall were fantastic. I can't believe I was saying this, but the Chek Lid and this is the best movie I've ever seen. Oh Mason, don't be one of those those don't be one of those guys man What if I was one of those guys though, and I carried it off with style and panache I mean if you could pull it off as you obviously Don't be like that. Okay. It's the most interesting. Sorry. I'm such a stylish hater

Russ says that the most interesting Transformers project and Steven Winethrob, I can never know how to spell this guy's name, he's in Collider, he's Frosty from Collider. Okay. He's pronounced Vein-throb. Easily one of the best Transformers movies, no debate. For some it'll be their favourite and I understand why. Okay, sure. You know, I mean, you know some movies come out and they get universal praise and you see it and you're like, I liked it but I didn't love it. Yeah.

Yeah, I agree, this isn't the transformers movie for me that being said like my son who loves transformers This is the only trailer that he wants. It's the only thing he wants to watch. That's right in the world Yeah, he doesn't want to watch school. No, it doesn't Why would you want to watch school? He doesn't want to watch hang out with his friends. I've been to his school It sucks. I've been his friends. They're fucking terrible. Yeah, it was making me play down ball Mason. I know I've seen that Yeah, I'm winning though Yeah, I know you're taking away from valuable content producing time. It's true. Yeah. Yeah Look, I think I suspect this will be for me very similar to like a Super Mario Brothers where yes

It's got all the stuff that is that is required for a Transformers movie Steve Bisham. He's Starscream. What do you think of that? That's pretty good. There you go. Yeah. Yeah I'm a little bit more optimistic. go. Yeah. I don't know. I'm a little bit more optimistic. Yeah. I'm not going to say it's incredible. Actually with my son, we were watching... He put on the other day.

Yeah. Reservoir Dogs. Yeah. We saw what he was up to. Good movie. We're watching Bumblebee. Just the start of Bumblebee. Just make that.

Well, they're not going to. I know. It made it worse for you. It's too expensive. Yeah. But you know what? If it's good, if it's a little bit good and the kids like it. Transformers is really, really good and have

been for a long time. Every three or four years, they do a new kids show and they reboot in a different way. They like rescue bots and there's that Netflix one that everybody hates. They do that every few years and the toys are constantly updating. It's always happening. The comics are always interesting. It's interesting then there was that era where it was just... Where it died? Yeah, where it just died for like... Like mid 90s?

For like 10 years, yeah. Yeah, until like the movie started in 2007. Yeah. And I disagree. But I imagine that was probably something along the lines of the people who watched Transformers as a kid were like suddenly in executive positions. More friends with Michael Bay. Oh my god. I'd love to be friends with Michael Bay. We'd hang out and wear Hawaiian shirts. What's he doing recently? Is that some Michael Bay?

I was going to say he did Bad Boys but he didn't do it. No, I saw some Michael Bay news recently. Oh, he's doing the Skibbidi toilet movie. That cannot be. I saw they were doing that movie. Is he doing it? Apparently. Why? What? I don. Is he doing it? Apparently. Why? What? I don't know. He's only 59. I thought he was older than that. Well, he's well in the Skibbitty toilet demographic then.

Okay, let me check this out. This is Variety. Unless this is a trick. Variety.com Skibbitty toilet film and TV franchise in the work from Michael Bay and Adam Goodwin. No, what? Is he looking for his new Transformers? Is that what's happening here? Maybe. An Skibbity toilet. But does it say he's directing it? Develop for TV and film by director Michael Bay. It doesn't say he's directing it, no. Okay.

We're absolutely in talks right now, both on the television side and the earliest conversations right now. And the film side, Goodman said, but it's not be all end all for us. Sure. Okay. By the time they get around to this, this is over, right? I don't know, man. I mean, like, I mean, Five Nights at Freddy worked and that took like 10 years. Yeah, yeah. Okay. At the risk of sounding a hundred years old.

Okay. What the fuck is this? Like it's a guy with a long neck who comes out of a toilet. I was under the impression that it was like, it's like some asset from a Half-Life game, right? Okay. Cause it looks like a Half-Life guy. It looks like the G asset from a Half-Life game, right? Okay. Because it looks like a Half-Life guy. It looks like the G-Man from Half-Life.

Yeah. You know, that game series from the late 90s, early 2000s. Probably mid-90s. I don't know. It's a machinima web series. Okay. Okay, so there you go. Alright, great.

You know what? I can't look into this. I'm too old. What am I doing? What am I doing? What am I doing? Maybe it'll become your new passion, James. I hope it will. Yeah.

Yeah. You'll have a t-shirt, it'll say Skibbity Boy on it. I'm a Skibbity Boy, you'll say. I'm a Skibbity Boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just letting the dog out. Okay. Hey, while I'm gone, let everybody know who let the dog out.

It was James. James, James, James, James. He's let the dog out. Into that cold Melbourne winter. This winter sucks. Right? I get up in the morning. I mean, if I had a real job, like I had to go and do something in the morning, I'd be mortified. I mean, I go to the gym, but that's like self-inflicted, so I can't complain about that.

That's right. You should get a paper route. I should get a paper route. I didn't have to deliver one paper and it's to my parents. That's right. Okay. Mason. Yes. Finally, next week on August 2nd, we've got the release of the Rebel Moon Director's Cup. Yes. They're calling Zack Snyder's True Vision. So the thing that you watched, we both watched. We're idiots. Boy, if your reveal here was going to be that you didn't watch those two movies and you were just guessing, you just sk skim the Wikipedia page and I just sat through four and a bit hours of this garbage and now there's six more hours of this garbage now listen I know we said we weren't gonna cover it next week because the movie Trap is

coming out nice but what if we watched six hours of I'm not gonna I can't do it no I'm not gonna do what if you watched it then told me I'll do that no, I don't think so. No, but how busy are you? I mean the trailer came out and so there's this is more blood There's more blood more princess. There's more stabs is some sexy stuff Depending on how you define sexy. I guess yeah sure and there's a big man a big glowing man That's new to the movie. I think one looks it looks a lot of it looks very different Yeah, I but I'm with you. I can't with this. I'm sorry now now people have said there was a lot of discussion on the internet And people were like why has he done this? Why didn't he just release the original version in the first place and people have said well Netflix told him that

He has to release a PJ related version rated version so you know they can sell toys and what have you what toys? I don't there are toys, but there are like... Like seven toys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I would say, like if this were not a cynical move, James... Funko shit. Yeah, there are some action figures, but they're like hot toys. They seem quite expensive.

They are. Yeah. Some of them are just statue... 100... This one's $139. Yeah. It's... I looked it up every time when somebody said, Oh, because I've got to sell the action. But here's the thing, James, buying this is the thing from a non cynical perspective. If that were true. If, if, if Netflix said you have to release a PG version, in addition to the AR rated rude version, and they would release them at the same time, and you would get a choice to just flick, you know, select the one you want.

If you want to watch it with your kids, you can watch the kid friendly version. But that's the thing. They didn't do that. Imagine sitting down with your kids. Because the idea being is... Because then all the Snyder fans would only watch the Rude version. That's true. And that's what we would watch. That's what we would... Exactly. That's what we would watch. So the idea is you get all the views from the first version and then you wait Yeah, then you then you release it again. So it's not there's no I mean also it's clearly just like capitalizing on the Snyder cut Yeah, it's not a cat exactly. It's going on

He's known as a guy who doesn't get his vision and yeah, and then he's going to what do you need to hear? To watch this what would be the incentive would have to say this is practically a different movie in a way, but it's good Yeah, yeah, like not just it's different. It's different if it's different, but it's worse somehow All the same. I'm not interested if they were like this is this this is somehow Completely changed the narrative and it's changed the entire Vibe of the movie look at this and it isn't dreadfully dull now, then maybe I would, but there's no way that could happen. You'd have to change all the character arcs and how they all interact with each other in every scene.

And they sit down in a room and they say where they're from. They'd have to get rid of that. I'm from a planet where I thought the Star Wars bad guys were good, but then they showed up and they were bad. That's my story. Let's hear that nine times. Yeah, I have a similar story. It's that.

But my world had a different tinted sky. Yeah, it probably had a griffin or whatever. Yeah, that's right. I got robot hands. Does that mean anything to you? Yeah, I mean, you know. Sounds like the story of a great warrior. It is.

Here we go. No, I mean, it cannot possibly be because every scene in that movie was dreadfully dull. And so, like, if you had versions of that where all the storylines coalesced in a way that was really interesting and every scene was like vibrant and gripping. And they kissed. Then you would have released that. You wouldn't have released the boring versions. So it doesn't exist.

A good version of these movies doesn't exist. Again, I want to stress also, like I want a version of like a new franchise that's a new Star Wars that, you know, that's like a, yeah, like something you could expand on, like a like an incredibly detailed and rich universe. Something like Chronicles of Riddick, you know, but good. Chronicles of Riddick, sure. Yeah, yeah. But good. I don't buy those sure. Yeah, yeah. But good. I don't buy those movies.

Yeah, yeah. But I mean, yeah. But this is not it. When we talked about the first episode, first movie, like our disappointment that it wasn't better was very genuine. I would have loved for it to have been good, but it wasn't. Yep. I agree.

What do you do? What do you do? What do you tell? You just wait for Skippity Toilet. Again, I know like a million people watch this all the time or whatever But if there's anybody like a real person in the world, yes ever mentioned this to you I never exactly and that's something that's right. I don't know what That's right. All you folks out there who loved it you fake people

DC of course, we're talking some more Comic Con panel stuff. DC, they came out and one of the big reveals was the new DC Studios logo. James Gunn couldn't be there because he's busy filming Superman and maybe also Peacemaker, some of Peacemaker at the same time and also Creature Commandos which we want to talk about. But the new logo. It's the old logo. Yes. It's an old logo.

We looked it up, it was 1979 to 2005. 1977. You said 79 to me. We looked it up. It was 1979 to 2005. 1977. You said 79 to me. I said 77. He did this on purpose. He made me look bad. He made me look bad on my show. On my podcast. On my best podcast.

They're going to call you James' two years Sunday movies. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Just don't call me that. Hey't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that.

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Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call me that. Don't call like it is the new 52 one. I don't know whether it is. It's like it's that era. It's about you. You're 52. Yeah. Or the other one. This also makes sense because this is also the

logo that James Gunn would have like been reading comic. That's why that's why we like it. That's why we like it. That's probably why we like it too. Yeah, I like it a lot. So no complaints. It's a logo also. I never never really like that you do that's on you now, but the DC introduction they did Yeah, it's faceless and it's just a bunch of characters who never appeared in the yeah For those guys. Yeah, yeah, that's fun. What a world of entertainment You're not gonna get all these back stories. You'll never see completely great. Here's some back stories. We will get though It's creature commandos. That's some backstories we will get though. It's Creed of Commandos. That's right.

Got its first trailer. Rick Flagg Sr. Yep. Voiced by, what's his name? He's Crossbones. We've said it before. We know it. Don't think we don't know it.

He did a Groundhog Day one, but it was video games. Frank Grillo. Frank Grillo. Yeah, so he plays, yeah, so Rick Flagg. If he doesn't have a podcast called Grillo Talk, he's missing out on a big chunk of change. What's he doing then? Yeah. Yeah, so he's playing a video game.

He's playing a video game. He's playing a video game. He's playing't have a podcast called Grillo Talk, he's missing out on a big chunk of change. What's he doing then? Yeah, so he's Joel Kinnaman. Or Frank Talks. Oh, Frank Talk? Frank Grillo Talk. Okay, these are good. These are all good things.

He's probably got at least one of these. Where you sit where you lie in bed with your romantic partner and they just give you some Frank Talk. You know? Good, sometimes you need to hear it. It's tough, but you need to hear it. You should start a podcast. You should quit Frank talk. You know? Good, sometimes you need to hear it. It's tough, but you need to hear it. You should start a podcast. You should quit your podcast.

You know? Whatever gets you motivated. I know. I like this. So, Creature Commanders is basically like the freaks, right? Yeah, it's Suicide Squad, but the... They can't use real people anymore. So, they're using fake people.

They use monsters and robots. So ones like a World War II era... Oh, the GI robot. Yep. We got Mrs. Frankenstein and Mr. Frankenstein. Mr. Frankenstein. Yeah. To answer your question, yes, there is a Mrs. Frankenstein. That's right.

Dr. Phosphorus. Dr. Phosphorus, who I always thought was a real guy, but I guess once you mostly phosphorus. It's fine. Yeah. Who else? Weasel is in there as well. That's right. Probably a couple of other guys.

Yeah, probably a couple other guys. What do you think of this? Looks pretty fun. I mean, the animation looks good as well, which I enjoy. Yes Because of course, you know when you're watching invincible and I am it's um, it's the animation is not great It comes and goes doesn't it? Yeah, sometimes as people have said it just looks like somebody's dragging a Yeah, which is fun, but of course, uh, Viola Davis is back as Amanda Waller. Oh, Alan Tudyk is Dr. Phosphorus. That's fun.

David Harbour is Eric Frankenstein. Oh my God. Indira Varma is Brighter Frankenstein. These are all good. This is a great cast. I love all of this. Cool. All right.

And of course, the other trailer we got, but it wasn't at Comic Con. I think they just released this. It was how Joker got his groove back. So he's a bit bummed out. You're talking about Joker 2. Joker 2. Jocker 2. Jocker.

I mean and speaking of also this week Todd Phillips said, no, this isn't gonna be the comic book Joker. He said we will never make him the crown prince of crime. Clown prince of crime because Arthur clearly is not a criminal mastermind. He never was that. He's become a symbol of the people, this unwilling unwitting symbol now paying for the crimes of the first film, but at the same time, finding the only thing he ever wanted, which is love. That's pretty nice. Lame.

Anyway, they're doing some songs. They are doing some songs. Yep. Also, I think did a someone pointed out that if you turn the subtitles on there is some voiceover from Harvey Dent. Harvey Dent is in this. Yeah, I think they said who the actor was. Is it Frank Grillo? Frank Grillo. I didn't recognize him. But yeah, so yeah, it's definitely taking a different

direction. Yes, his name is Harry Laughty. Harry Laughty. Harry Laughty. Yeah, he's playing Harvey Dent. I think he's going gonna get the acid. They're doing the acid, right? I mean, what's gonna happen in this movie, James? You know what I mean? What's gonna happen in the dancing and singing? They do the big double kick on the stairs. The double kick on the stairs. Which I love. That's all I'm there for. Do you think they're gonna do double heads out of a car as it drives through the city? Each side of the car just their tongues flapping out the side? That's more of a Heath Ledger thing. He had his head against the glass.

Well, now they're going to do tongues flapping out the window. A couple of dogs. So this is set two years after the last one, I believe. They said in terms of singing, he's going to sing apparently like not a train singer like how somebody sings in the shower. And he's going to sing apparently like, like not a train singer, like how somebody sings in the shower. Okay. And she's obviously Lady Gaga.

So she's going to sing like Lady Gaga. How she how she sings, which could, which could be a bit of fun. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, again, we've reached the point of is this even, and I said it at the time, and I stand by it. Look, it's probably it's probably could very well be quite entertaining. But at what point, you know, if it's just if he's not going to become a criminal mastermind and it's just some names of some

characters from D.C., is it is a joker at all? Yeah. But it's called Joker. So I guess it is. Yeah. Well, it is. Yeah. I mean, I think it wouldn't have made a billion dollars if it was called just a clown who goes on a talk show and shoots Robert De Niro. I would watch that though. Brendan Gleeson is in this. Oh my god. Pretty exciting.

I'm just scrubbing through it real quick here. He's doing some, he's, Joaquin Phoenix is doing some I'm Not a Crook stuff. Did you say Bigger Joker? I did say Bigger Joker. So I had a dream this week, it was kind of a dream. Bigger James? No, no, it's not Bigger, I wish.

It was a dream where where I was like, what would be the perfect foil for Batman's Steve Coogan in this? Yes, he's played an interviewer into a perfect foil for Batman decided. Yes. And it's not a great idea. And it's an idea we say all the time. But what if it was just bigger Batman? So it's Batman is exactly the same. He's slightly bigger. But he's also got all the stuff. Sure lives in a mansion. It's slightly bigger He's got the whole bat family. They're all slightly bigger and he's not a villain But regular sized Batman is just like this fucking guy. Is he like is bigger Batman just showing him up all the time Yeah, not even he's just he is around. He is Batman. He's just bigger. Did they have their origins at roughly the same time?

I don't know how it works. They may be that shine it out and they're just like, we don't know. I mean DC and the comic books now are, I don't know if you saw this, but they're doing a new absolute line. I think it's maybe to capitalize on Marvel. Absolute bigger Batman. And then absolute, well I was going to say, I mean, if this isn't bigger Batman, I don't know what to tell you. Oh damn, maybe this is where my dream came from.

Maybe this is where your dream came from. That's not even a logo, it's just a rectangle. It's just a rectangle. It's like a big block of off cheese. Batman I don't know what to tell you. Oh damn maybe this is where my dream came from. Maybe this is where your dream came from. That's not even a logo it's just a rectangle. It's just a rectangle it's like a big block of off cheese. I did see that this week yeah. So I think it's to capitalize on because Marvel now have their new ultimate universe. They've got bigger Captain America. Yeah yeah yeah that's right.

Alright so who's writing a bunch of those do we know? They've got some names associated with it. I can figure it out for you James. Can you figure it out please? DC's giving you details on Absolute Batman at SDCC 2024. Absolute Batman. Scott Snyder is involved. Scott Snyder is involved. That's right. Black Mask is involved.

Black Mask. All right. Black Batman is in his 20s. He's seven feet tall. He weighs 250 pounds and he's a city engineer. I'm sorry, he's seven feet tall. Seven feet tall. Oh, so this is the version that is what if Batman was like made now, right? Kind of?

So it's like the origin is basically his parents are killed, but everything else is different. Is that the idea? I honestly could not tell you. Yeah. But he is, he's not a, he doesn't appear to be a billionaire. He's like a city planning man. City planning guy. Yeah, yeah.

And he's described as a thick boy and his character. He's seven feet and 250 pounds. I guess he hunches when he's at work. We didn't talk about this at the time, but they cast for the new season of Reacher, a guy who's bigger than Reacher. Bigger Reacher. I'm loving this. It's in the zeitgeist. Just fighting a guy who's bigger. My Batman doesn't fight bigger Batman. Okay. All right. He just sees. They just exist together at the same space. Yeah. No, my Batman doesn't fight bigger Batman. Okay, all right. He just sees.

They just exist together in the same space. Wow, what an incredible dream you've had. What a mind on you. All right, we should do some Marvel stuff. Let's do Marvel stuff. It's time for the big one, Mason. The big one this year. I mean, who knows what's going to be next year.

That's true, yeah. With DC, DCU, etc. The first Marvel panel, it was purely dedicated to Deadpool and Wolverine Oh, yes again as we mentioned they we won't name them here We'll talk about it in spoilers when we cover the movie big week Yeah, but a couple of days after the big premiere. Yeah, they're like just hate people Yep, you wouldn't expect to be in the movie unless yeah, I should been spoiled just there now you're being spoiled No, you know, hey everybody. Yeah, they are. I mean we'll there. And now you're being spoiled. Now you know. Hey everybody, here they are.

I mean, we'll talk about how well this is doing, but very well. Like it's doing exceptionally well. Just talk of like the MCU is back, et cetera. But again, we'll save this for when we do our review. But then of course we had the whole H panel on Saturday. The first thing we got to look at was Captain America. Oh, initially it was just like some footage and some panels of stuff that we already knew about. And it felt kind of like, okay. It's out now.

Yeah, and it wasn't, none of it was out now. Here's some projections. It's doing great. Don't leave. No. Here's all the cameos. They're here. We dragged them in. Captain America, Brave New World, where we saw, they saw not us Tim Blake Nelson again is coming back as a leader That's right. The new Falcon was there We know confirmed that the big guy sticking out of the earth left over from the eternal is filled with adamantium. That's right

That's what the conflict is that? Giancarlo Esposito's character is Sidewinder the king of the serpent society. What's he doing out in the street then? We're in a barn coat. Yeah, man reload Reloading a gun. What are you doing out in this juice? What are you up to? Should be on a throne if you're the head of the Serpent Society. This isn't the movie Heat. Right? You dumbass.

You should be on a big cobra shaped throne. Yeah. Going, yes. Yes. Or yas. You could be saying yas. Slay my serpents, you should be saying. That's what, if you're the head of a snake based evil organization, you have to sit on

a throne and you have to say a lot of things with S at the start or the end. That's what's your job. What are you running around in the street? Running around hiding behind a car while people shoot at you. Embarrassing. Get with it. Get with it. Sidewinder.

Do you remember this was a joke when they were revealing Captain America Civil War? They said Serpent Society. Yeah, that's right. Just kidding. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, remember you said last week that like nobody has guessed my character. And I was like, that's bullshit. Somebody's definitely guessed it.

I don't think anybody did guess this. He was right and I was wrong. Nobody picked Serpent Man or whatever. Serpentor. Yeah. What's his name? Sidewinder. Sidewinder, yeah. Has he got lizard snake powers?

I don't know anything about Sidewinder. They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Oh, Mason. Well, if they're scraping the bottom of the barrel, tell me this. Why did they show footage of Harrison Ford hulking out? And he also tried to hulk out on stage. He was there, wasn't he? He remembered that he was a real man.

He couldn't do it. This is getting into the spirit of it. He's having a bit of fun, isn't he? Yeah. And I think he said something along the lines, if I saw people having fun in these movies and I thought, I love that. I love having fun. I love having fun. I love getting a lot of money and having fun.

That's right. I love Ali McBeal. I remember I can name my own price. That's right. Yeah, so here we go. I'd love to know what he got for this. But yeah, apparently he's doing a speech on the White House lawn and whatever and then he turns into the Hulk and etc.

I don't know whether they showed the President nearly got shot footage again they probably did not imagine yeah probably good that they probably skipped that I think hey who wants to see the President nearly getting shot which one is it though vote now vote on your phone but on the Marvel app oh my god um so it looks like yeah there's gonna be from the footage that we saw of the Red Hulk it looks like there is gonna be that fight on the like grassy area in front of the White House or whatever Wouldn't that be fun fun? Is this gonna be good? I think it is. Yeah. Yeah, because it's going back to espionage Yes, but also there's a big Hulk in it. That's exactly right. Thank God

So do you think that's gonna be a situation where he's gonna be Red Hulks forever? So they don't have to bring back Harrison Ford for subsequent movies if they don't want to. Or he could just die. Yeah he could die, that's true. Yeah. I don't know if they're ever gonna bring back the Red Hulk after this. Hmm, let's put him in a box. Well we've got, I mean maybe he'll be the henchman of a much bigger villain.

Oh wow. And they can just have him in the background sometimes. Yeah okay, well that'd be fun too wouldn't it? Fun. I think he's gonna do some brave stuff. What does that mean? Brave new world. But I think he's gonna become a good guy at some point. He's gonna be like, what I've learned a lesson, I shouldn't have been a Hulk. The red Hulk is sort of a hero, I guess. Maybe you.

Maybe you. You know where my political allegiances lie, Mason. That's right, yeah. Yeah. There you go. Just as he lowered taxes on podcasters. Love him. You know where my political allegiances lie. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Just because he lowered taxes on podcasters. Love him. Well, they should.

We work hard. Yeah. Agreed. We get up, we go to the gym. That's right. We do our paper routes. He lowered the tariffs on that. You know?

Oh my God. He lowered the toll fees for crossing the bridge. Good. That's good. Then we got Thunderbolts. David. Thunderbolts aster bridge. Good, that's good. Then we got Thunderbolts. Thunderbolts asterisk. Yes, that's right. David, what's his name? Harbour.

He came out and he was in the uniform and he went, I'm Thunderbolts or whatever. Apparently- There's some big reveals, right? Well yeah, and total film is the synopsis. Yelena visits Red Guardian's apartment and tells him that her only reason to live is to kill others. They then encounter the other Thunderbolts, Bucky Barnes, John Walker, Ghost and Taskmaster, only to discover they've all been assigned to the same dangerous mission.

And they want to know why. And of course, Lewis Pullman is playing a character called Bob. OK. But we all know he's actually playing Century. Oh, right. OK. So do you think they have to kill Century or something? Maybe. Yeah. Could be tricky.

But they're all just Captain... Because he's way more powerful than all of them. Yeah, they're all Captain America people. Yeah, yeah. Except for the ghost. What's that guy's name? Lewis Pullman, did you say? Yeah, he's Bill Pullman's son. He's in Top Gun 3, 2, 1. Oh, yeah, he's got a real Rob Reynolds kind of look to him, doesn't he? Yeah. Rob Reynolds. Yes. Who's Rob Reynolds? End of the century. I don't know his real name. Oh, he's also Bob in Top Gun Maverick. There you go. I just said that. No, you didn't. I said his Topgum. No, you thought it.

You had a dream about it. I did, and he was bigger. Big Bob. Big Bob Pullman. Yeah. When does this one end? Big Bob Pull Truck. Because it's bigger than a man.

That's good, Mason. I don't know. They haven't explained the... It's in April of next year. Yeah, they're going to be very lucky not to get pulped by the century. Completely agree. But they haven't... Kevin Feige hasn't explained what the asterix is about.

So, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don lucky not to get pulped by the century. Completely agree. But they haven't, Kevin Feige hasn't explained what the asterisk is about. So I don't know. Do you think it might be- No refunds.

Do you think it might be like a- It's no refunds. Do you think it could be like a Dark Avengers situation or something? Yeah, maybe. I think we've talked about this. Also, Julia Louis-Dreyfus was there. Yeah, she's in it. She's in it.

She's what's her name? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Allegra Valentine. Not had a lot to do really for the past five plus years. No. Well, she's busy. Yeah. Veep?

I finished a while ago. She's busy thinking about Veep and her role in Veep. I should finish Veep. Yeah. But of course, the biggest stuff was saved for later, Mason. That's right. One of them being the footage that they showed for Fantastic Four First Steps. Of course, this start of production.

Which we've seen. They liked it, collect, collect. Do you know what the working title is? What is it? Blue Moon. Blue Moon Mason. Cast game on stage. The footage, you can check it out. It's on, they keep taking it down, but it's available. Everybody whooped. Everybody whooped and hollered.

Now it's a very, I mean it's set in the 60s in an alternate universe, an alternate Marvel universe. It's very The Incredibles. It is, I mean it's set in the 60s in an alternate universe, an alternate Marvel universe. It's very The Incredibles. It is, isn't it? It's very that George Clooney movie. Yep, Tarot Land. About the future or the past.

Yeah, it's got that retrofuturism vibe. It's clear skies and beautiful skyscrapers. It's a swinging good time. Little sort of a Cadillac style flying car. Oh yeah, what do you think of that? Cool. Yeah. I thought it was cool.

Pretty cool. Very cool. Yeah. And of course we get the first look at Galactus' big face of that? Cool. Yeah. It was cool. Pretty cool. Very cool. Yeah. And of course we get the first look at Galactus' big face. That's right. Finally. They're doing it right.

Big face. Yeah. Big face, Mason. He's looking down at people. Did they cast Galactus or did I imagine that? No, they did. It's the voice of that guy, Ralph Innocent. Is that his name?

Probably right. Who's that? What's that in? He's got that voice. Hello. No. Hello. Hello. Oh yeah, he's Finchie from the office. Yes he is. Great stuff. Yeah, and additional stuff in the footage, we got Reed Richards teaching some sort of class and the students are very bored about it until he just fires off a big jet engine or something. That's fun. We think goes on a

dating show. That's right. That's the we see. Yeah, we get like an outline of what he yeah, sort of looks like and we see the the four suiting up in their astronaut suits so they can take a journey storms hair look like because we don't know this is shaved hair is very little. Quinn Yeah, Mr. Joseph Quinn, Joseph Quinn is very little Joseph Quinn in this trailer. Dr. Quinn, they don't know. There's a shaved head. There's very little Quinn. Yeah. Mr. Quinn. Joseph Quinn. There's very little Joseph Quinn in this trailer. Dr. Quinn Joseph Quinn.

Because they don't want to reveal his hair. I wonder if it's the traditionally. It's blonde, right? It will be blonde, but is it also very closely cropped? Cause that feels like the movie tradition of the last couple of Johnny Storms. It's a very closely cropped hair. Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe he's just got his hair closely cropped because then you can stick a wig on him. Maybe he's keeping his hair close to the vest. Wow. That's interesting. I didn't mind the look at this though, again, like it's leaked footage and whatever, whatever, but it did, it's, they haven't filmed very much of it. So they basically flew in, did this panel, flew back out to keep going.

Yeah, the whole panel was them just looking at their watches and sighing. Do not have time for this. It's Matt Shackman. Hey, I've got a question, but it's actually more of a statement. What do you think of the name though? First Steps. I love this. They'll be on the moon for a bit. Oh yeah?

That'll be a bit of fun. Maybe they haven't gone on the moon. Maybe they haven't gone on the moon in this universe. You don't think so? Maybe. I reckon they would have because of all their stuff. Yeah, it's director Matt Shaqman, who of course did a bunch of WandaVision and that stuff. Yeah, it's director Matt Shakman who of course did a bunch of WandaVision and that's wrong other stuff. Yeah

We did a movie called cut bank Oh cut bank sure All right, and they said before we do the next bit of news I just have this quote I want to read from Rolling Stone when they spoke to Logan director James Matt no, they spoke to Logan director James Mangold about multiverse stories because of course famously Logan has returned in Deadpool and Wolverine. That's a Logan. Yeah, that's right. And James Mangold killed him That's right in another man of spite. I believe yeah, he said I hate this character. That's right in these movies Yeah, I think you're a big tough guy. He said I'll kill you. Give me Indiana Jones. That's right I'm gonna do something with it. It's right. I'm not gonna tell you what

Give me all your money. Give me all your money and I'll make an Indiana Jones movie. How I like it. Anyway, in terms of multiverse stories, he said, I think it's the enemy of storytelling. For me, the goal becomes always what is unique about this film and these characters, not making you think about some other movie or some Easter egg or something else, which is all an intellectual act, not an emotional act. Oh, you want the movie to work on an emotional level. So true. I bring this up Mason, because the biggest news of course, was the reveal that there's

a new Avengers movie. We were going down, we were going to go down the Kang route, was going to be Avengers Kang dynasty, but they've changed it to Avengers payday. Sorry Mason, I mean Avengers do Payday. Sorry, Mason. I mean, Avengers Doomsday. James. Mason. Why would you? You're supposed to be a professional podcaster. Yeah, I know.

They lowered all those taxes on podcasting. So get bloody smart and up, all right? Look, I lost all my money in gambling. Okay. I don't even know what specifically, but I just, you know, I was just doing some random gambling. Some rando-gamblo. Yeah, that's right. That's what we call it in Australia. We call it rando-gamblo. That's what we call it in Australia. We call it rando-gamblo.

That's right. So the first Avengers movie is going to be called Avengers Doomsday with the return of Doctor Doom, which we'll talk about in a minute. The return, I guess, in this. It's been other Doctor Dooms. There was Viktor Domachev in 2015. And there was the guy from NipTuck whose dad was the prime minister, I think, at one point. That's correct, Julian McMahon.

That's correct, yes. Yes, that's going to be in May of 2026, and then we've got Avengers Secret Wars in May of 2027. The Russo brothers, as rumored last week, they are returning to direct. That's right. They went off and they made their own Apple Plus and Netflix movies, whatever they did. That's right, and their own Apple Pies. That's right. And then they said, you know what? We're going to do some more Marvel movies because those did really, really well and people liked them.

So yeah, they've already done four. So this is... We're bringing down our own average. It seems that way. Box office wise. Some of these are zero because they're streaming. That's right. So this will be, I guess, their fifth and sixth Marvel movies because they're Winter

Soldier Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame. It seems as if if they're going to release 26 and 27 they would be filmed back to back presumably like the last ones were. Of course we know a lot about filming movies. We know how things work Mason. First of all how do you feel about them returning? Feels like a safe bet right? Yeah that's what I think I said that last week. I think, you know, they work well in quantity. They work well in the toy box, as it were. Yeah. Or the toolbox.

Or the tool shed. Yeah. Or the men's shed. Or a man cave. Yeah. All of that. All that stuff. So Stephen McFeely, he's going to return to right, but not Christopher Marcus.

And they worked on... They had a falling out. I don't know. I think they did. They probably had a big falling out. Let's spread that rum. One punched the other one. I don't know. I think they did. They probably had a big falling out. Let's spread that rumour.

One punched the other one. I don't know who. How? That's interesting, isn't it? It was a King hit. Was it? You shouldn't do that. I know.

It's bad. Yep. You got a jail for that in Australia, which is good. I agree. Not the King hit, the jail bit. So yeah, they've basically reassembled the creative team from the last Avengers movie. That's right. Deadpool also in the newest movie makes reference to like, yeah, we're in an era of Marvel movies. They should bring in a wild card.

They should bring in Mel Brooks. Oh my god. Didn't you recently do History of Something is Back Again? Absolutely you did, yes. And it was bad? They should bring in Mel Brooks and Armando Iannucci. Just fart gags and political commentary and have them fight it out in the writers room I reckon.

Oh my god. But here's the twist, they're not taking any of those pages. It's all just, they're chucking them all in the bin at the end of the day. Fine with me. I just want to watch these two go at it. Now of course the big reveal from this, and again this was a rumour last week I believe it was Jeff Snyder, was that the Doctor Doom casting. Could you believe it Mason?

I could not believe it. But in retrospect I can't believe it now. Because we talked about it. Yeah. Could you believe it Mason? I could not believe it. But in retrospect, I can't believe it now. Because we talked about it last week. We did. It's true. Yeah. So Robert Downey Jr. took to the stage in a Doctor Doom.

No, a man in Doctor Doom. We didn't know. Suspiciously shaped like Robert Downey Jr. I know his shape. He's got those boots. He's got those boots, yeah. So those boot cut pants and those boots. He's 6'1".

Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah those boot-cut pants and those boots. He whips the mask. He's six foot one. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, he's six foot one. He whips the mask off and the new Doctor Doom is going to be in the Fantastic Four universe, but then presumably... Do you reckon he's going to start in the 60s universe? Great question.

You don't actually know. I mean... I mean, if he's a multiverse fellow... I mean, this was designed to do big woos in Hall Age. Oh yeah. But I mean, we got scant details. We don't know, is he going to be Victor Von Doom and we only get the

voice? Yeah. He learned from Pedro Pascal that you can just not show up into the voice. Or is he a Tony Stark from that universe who is going to go bad and become Doctor Doom?

What are we doing? Yeah, something to do with the cave. The cave went differently. Oh, yeah, the cave made a cave went differently and he became Doctor Doom. He ran out the other end of the cave and it was the wrong end. The bad guy. Ran into a Dr. Doom costume. All right sure. He went all right. Have a bit of this. Now Variety says and they're a known

and reputable source that he is. They broke the skippity toilet story. Did they? Yep they did. That's huge that's big news. They're saying that he's playing Victor Von Dome. In a huge dump of celebrity news. Wow. Yeah, reveals. Big dump. I didn't know that. Yeah, it was in their big dump segment. Variety's big dump. They're saying that he's playing Victor Von Dome. Okay, right. I don't know whether they're just saying that because that's the name that he has, but you know. Yeah. Also, as we know, and I'm, we'll do that more in spoilers, but, uh, in the MCU and the multiverse, there are characters, superheroes who are played by the same actor who played different characters in different dimensions. That's true.

So he could play Victor Von Doom and Tony Stark in the mainline universe. And that would be totally within the laws of whatever. What would you prefer? Uh, I would actually prefer if they did Victor Von Doom with an entirely different actor. Oh, okay. Well, too late and too bad. No, that's not. Unless, I mean, they'll probably-

Go to hell. Yeah, go to hell, you're right. But I think I'd probably prefer this to be a Tony Stark variant and have another Doctor Doom. Maybe at some point. Because I feel like it is such a... I'm not against this. Like I know there's a lot of...

I mean, in the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates group, there's a lot of people... And not just there, people saying this is like... This is... Feels like a desperate... Yeah. Hail Mary... Yeah. ... kind of situation. Because he's the big money maker.

He's the big money maker. Like... He's the one that kicked it all off. I can't even imagine what they're gonna have to pay him for this. Yeah. And of course, the Kang dynasty thing completely fell down. Like, they lost for this. Yeah. And of course the Kang dynasty thing completely fell down. Like they lost the actor. Yeah.

And the stories wasn't working. We can't recast this guy who famously looks like a bunch of other people. No, and just put a blue mask on whoever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like, yeah, and also that wasn't working. Like it didn't work as like, as when it kicked off in Kang. Yeah, I mean that's been going for several years and nobody really knows where it was headed. Yeah.

Nobody feels like, oh, he's got he's ongoing villain with a sort of, you know, an arc and a goal and a plot. People are just like, oh, we just we're just doing assorted things, are we? We're just rolling through multiverse scenarios and the world's at stake and etc. Like there was no sense of drive to the last phase. No, it absolutely felt like that. Like who's in charge? Who's in the Avengers?

Is it Young Avengers? What are we doing? Who bought Avengers Tower? Who did? We still don't know! Who did it? I think we're going to reveal it's just like a real estate company. Oh that's fun.

Yeah, and they've turned it into a vape shop. They've turned it into a vape shop slash American candy store. Oh wow. Despite the fact that it's in America. Yeah. You can get Prime. They call it regular candy store? Nope, they call it American candy. They call it Stan Lee's American candy. Yee-haw. Oh wow. What I think could be interesting about this. Anyway, to answer your question, I would prefer if he was just Victor Von Doom. And but played by... Yeah, but I think, I mean also he was recently in the show The Sympathizer where he just got to do a bunch of different makeup looks. Wigs.

Maybe he's gotten addicted to wigs and makeup looks and he's like make me a different guy. God, that's a dangerous thing to be addicted to. Make me my character in Tropic Thunder. You know. You know. With that thing that I did for Tropic Thunder. I want to be that, but I'm Victor Von Doom. That would be incredible. So I would prefer if he's just Victor Von Doom.

Because again, he talked about how he's gotten back into acting when he did Oppenheimer. Maybe he's like, I'm going to do a complete, maybe he's like, I'm going to do such a completely different character. You will never even imagine that I'm the same guy. I don't doubt that he can pull that off, but these things can go any number of ways. I mean, we've seen Johnny Depp attempt variations on Captain Jack Sparrow. Like it's all he's been trying to do since he basically did that movie. And of course he did Dr. Dolittle and that with a know, with a weird accent and whatever and that didn't go super well. But I think in terms of like

getting, I know people like again, like might call this desperate or lazy or like again, they're just, they're looking to like, reignite the marvel of old, but it does make sense. We talk about this all the time because for the general audience, this is bringing back somebody that you know, but it's not exactly the same. Like it's safe and it's new enough to be exciting to some. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sold on it.

I think, look, I think it'll probably end up working on some level, but I'm not like super excited about it. Also, I don't even feel like, I feel like he still just left. I don't feel like it's been- Oh I feel like it's been a long time honestly. Yeah really? Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 2019 so yeah I guess it's been five years since you know. You know who else probably feels like it's been a long time?

O'Shaala Ali. Yeah. No Blade announcement. No Blade announcement, no news at all. But yeah my hope for this is either, like best case scenario, it is him doing a completely different performance. It's like, I'm going to, I'm going to, it's unrelated to Tony Stark. And it's, he's not, he's not a Tony Stark variant or whatever, because that's multiversal

and I think people are kind of sick of that. He's just, he's going to put on a new performance and people are going to be like, if I didn't know already, I wouldn't know that was Dr. Dan. But I I mean otherwise you could always have him killed off in the first movie and then somebody finds the mask in the regular universe And it's someone gets him with a big laser somebody gets I'm bigger. I'm from a different dimension this laser defeats everybody That's right. I'm pointing it at you. I know it's difficult to be bigger than you Robert Downey Jr. Because you're six foot one Six foot two. That's right. My heels are pretty big though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're probably the same height. But I think like they've obviously thought this through and they really have they. I think they have.

No, I think they have. I think you can see they've completely stripped back the television stuff. Yeah, they didn't. As far as I know, they didn't mention it. Like there is television stuff still coming. We've got Daredevil, we've got Agatha, probably another thing. But they're not really doing that anymore. So I think they are, they're like, we need to refocus this. I mean, even the idea of having like Tom- TV's the home of Star Wars, god damn it. Finally. But like the idea of like Tom Holland's idol who died and it like completely traumatized him and now he has to fight like a guy who looks exactly like him.

Oh, okay Okay sure. I thought what like honestly the way that they could have gone was that what they were going to do Captain Hydra. They were going to do Steve Rogers because he's like the most virtuous character. Sure yeah. Tweak on evil. But that being said there is room here and I really wouldn't put it past them to bring back Chris Evans and that this version of Victor Von Doom makes a version of Captain Hydra. What if you get evil version of Captain Hydra. What if you get evil versions of everyone?

That's what I'm saying. We were talking about Thunderbolt's asterisk recently and in the comic books the Dark Avengers, Norman Osborn, the Green Goblin, all the heroes are on the run so Norman Osborn built his own Avengers and he got the evil versions of all the heroic characters to masquerade as the hero. So he got a version of Venom as Spider-Man. He got Ares to be Thor, etc. etc. So maybe that's what we're leading towards.

What if we got a movie where the villains were all evil versions? We got an evil black widow played by Scarlet Cancer. I mean, this would cost $500 million. But if you get an evil black widow... But you don't even have to get them on the same day. It's more on a green screen than put them together. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. Scan their heads, make them look bad. You know? Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying that's what's going to happen. But then, you know, when you got that dynamic, like the Civil War dynamic of like Tony Stark and Steve Rogers, you do that, you flip it.

You do Victor Von Doom, you do Captain Hydra. I don't know. I mean, maybe, what if, I mean, there's probably time to do a little teaser at the end of New Captain America. What if there's a reveal? Steve Rogers is back, but he's a Hydra man. Call me Steve. Oh my.

Rogers, it's perfect. It is perfect. It's an asset to start and the end. God, they're 10 steps ahead there ten steps ahead ten steps ahead Yeah, 11th dimensional chess now we talked about this Yes Now in terms of like how much he's going to be in it Victor Von Doom is famously masked for a lot of it correct Yes in some versions. He's actually a beautiful man with a tiny scar on his vein. So he wears the mask

Yeah, but I'm assuming and funniest version is is the way he's got a tiny little scar and then he went and he built a big hot mask and he put it on himself before it cooled down and it burned his entire arm. That is funny. That is very funny. A funny version is also where his mum... They should call him Dr. Dumbass. Dr. Dumbass BBQ Face they should call him. You didn't think to pull it off immediately either? Yeah, right.

What a dumbass. There's a version of course where his mum's in hell. That's fun too. So I think it's going to be masked on. Did you say he put on Tony Stark? Not Tony Stark, but he is Tony Stark. But Robert Downey Jr. put on like a new pair of sunglasses? No, what does that mean?

Like they're different than his normal kind of, you know, he's adopted like the Iron Man kind of sunglasses. They're kind of like I can't turn my computer around Mason because there's several ways are they Oakley speed dealers it's pretty much there's several weights on my computer to keep it running yeah it's true look I trust you James now you want to say this okay I know they're not that interesting okay right yeah I get it they're slightly different yeah they're slightly bigger yeah I think that says something or, I get it. They're slightly different. Yeah, they're slightly bigger Yeah, I think that says something or nothing. I think it does too, doesn't it? Yeah, I mean and again We're talking about the comic books. There is some sort of historical precedent for you know, Iron Man and Doctor Doom swapping armors sometimes

Oh, you know sometimes Doctor Doom will take over as Iron Man. He's done that before there was a series called Infamous Iron Man. Yes. And etc. So, you know. Yeah. I think also they're gonna have hologram Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man fight Dr. Doom at one point. Whoa. They're gonna, you know, he's backed up his brain and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Tom Holland's gonna be like, my dad's here. Yeah.

My dad's here to help me. And that's it. That's his one line in the movie. My dad's here to help me. And that's it. That's his one line in the movie. My dad's here. And people will have t-shirts. They'll go to the next year's Comic Con. T-shirts says my dad's here. Anyway, so Avengers Doomsday is going to be May 2026, as mentioned, and Avengers Secret Wars May 2027.

Not that long away. Not that long away. And then shut down the multiverse. Shut it down. You think so? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is gone as far as it needs to go. I know the molecules they've all changed We can never do a multiverse again. Oh, no, that's a shame. That is a shame till next time But also like until people aren't tired of it anymore. Yeah, wink and the molecules will get better

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And that's what feels like this week of Marvel. You think about buses. I'm thinking about buses. What's it do with that? Sometimes buses take years and then sometimes there's three buses in a week. Yeah. In history. Wow.

Yeah, that's right. You know, seldom do buses make great history. Is the expression, I believe. I didn't know that. You're thinking of it. That's that's that's great actually That's right. That's to learn Anyways Deadpool and Wolverine on a budget of 200 million dollars and you can see every single second of it in Jackman's pockets Yes

Probably it looks like the US return for this could be about $205 million, but maybe more. That's big! That's going to be the highest ever R-rated opening movie. It's going to beat out Deadpool 2016, which made $133 million, so much higher than that. Plus, it's going to make about another $211 internationally, so the global opening for this movie is $420 million plus. That's a big R-rated opening. That's a joke worthy of Deadpool himself420 million plus. That's a big R rated opening. It's a joke worthy of Deadpool. Definitely Mason. That's right.

So yeah, this is a huge hit. I mean, you know, it's broken even already. Yeah. It'll probably have a bit of legs. I mean, it might drop off dramatically in the second week, but I don't know, word of mouth tends to be, seems to be pretty good on this. And I think a lot of people, a lot of regular real people have sort of been clamoringoring for a long time and they probably a lot of them just didn't have time to see it opening Weekends, right next weekend regular and real regular and real. What do you think the story was? Oh, come on, mate

You can do it. All right. Okay. Well, I will say this movie starts with a big action sequence Yeah, man, it's funny and disrespectful and very violent and there's a a song. There is a song. But then after that, we learn that Deadpool, he's quit. He's quit the game. He's quit the mercenary game. He's quit the superheroing game. That's right. He's just a regular guy now. He sells cars.

He's living a regular life with his friends from previous Deadpool movies. That's right. Some of them. That's right. Not Cable. Cable's not there. Neither is Domino. She's not there either. Interesting.

But I mean, they're all barely there, aren't they? Neither's TJ Miller. TJ Miller isn't there. What's going on? I don't know. I'd forgotten about him until just now. He got blown up in that construction yard or whatever. Oh, in Transformers 4 or whatever.

And he just turned into a melted statue. That happened in real life. Did it really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great news. Anyway, then some stuff happens. Yeah. And then Deadpool learns, this is as deep as we'll go into spoilers, I feel like, until we talk about it in the spoiler section.

Deadpool learns that his universe, the Fox X-Men universe, has lost its anchor being, which is Logan from the movie Logan. And as a result, his universe is going to slowly unravel over the period of several thousand years. But... What? But... Matthew McFadden? Matthew McFadden, Mr. Paradox, an agent of the TVA,

that's the time variance authority from the TV show Loki, he wants to prove himself as a valuable member of the TVA. So he's gonna cause the Deadpool universe to to explode in 72 hours. And how does Deadpool learn this? Well, Mr. paradox tells him it pulls him out of the universe and says, and he says, Hey, I know how you're a famously violently unpredictable, and who always tends to do the right thing in the end. You're not going to do anything violently unpredictable right now, are you? Yeah. Like to, to, to, in order to do the right thing. I've got this telephone that can go anywhere. Yeah. You're not going to, you're not going to be. I'm not going to grab that are you?

Oh, you are. Oh, all right. And then Deadpool does a Deadpool and Wolverine. It's like, I better do a Deadpool and Wolverine. His idea is to replace the Wolverine in his universe. And that, but I guess, okay, so just some timeline stuff. It doesn't matter. Here's the thing.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because the version of Logan in the main universe is dead, but that also happens a few years after this. But he knows that because I guess he time travels to the future. And so he knows that Wolverine is dead. This is unrelated to the time tampering of the previous movie. Yes, though it is mentioned in passing. Yes. So Wolverine is dead even though he shouldn't be in this timeline.

He should still be alive. Right. At this point in time. It doesn't matter though. So he could have just got the one that's alive is what I'm saying. Oh, I guess so. But also that happened somewhere else, I reckon. Yeah, it probably happened somewhere else.

It's not like he has a machine that can go anywhere. Look, I suspect one of the reasons... Well, yeah, he destroyed it. Yeah. Eventually. But then he gets another one. No, I suspect one of the reasons, well, yeah, he destroyed it. Yeah. Eventually. But then he gets another one. No, I think that's in a flashback. The one that he has.

Oh, then he gets another one. He does steal another one. Look, I think, look, a lot of stuff we're going to encounter in this. It doesn't matter. It never mattered. It's never mattered. The X-Men timeline is fucked. And Deadpool movies, they've never attempted to make any sense of them

whatsoever. Also, was this some at least partially put together during the writer's strike? Yes. Okay, well that explains more. That explains more of it. That explains a lot of stuff actually. It does, doesn't it? Yeah.

Now look, people are saying look the MCU is back. We've heard this is the- Some people are saying the MCU is done. That's right. Some people are saying that this is the best or one of the best comic book movies of all time. Some people are saying Slop. I don't even think this is the best Deadpool movie. Interesting.

I love the inclusion of Wolverine in this. I go back and forth between Deadpool 1 being the best Deadpool movie and Deadpool 2 being the best. I think I like 2. 2 is good. 1 is really good in the sense that they use the very limited budget at their disposal to do something creative and interesting. Whereas this one has an unlimited budget.

That's correct. And maybe it doesn't exactly lend itself to creative storytelling. Because I think for this, the probably the weakest aspect of it is just the plot in general. Yes. And I think the action is awesome. We'll talk about it is just not great. Right.

It's I liked it, but I wasn't enamored with it. Well, here's the thing. I we watched it at the start of last week. Yeah. So we've had essentially infinite time to think about this. And I've flip-flopped a number of times throughout the week. And what I've settled on, I've made peace with this. So I'm like, well, a lot of this is not great.

Almost none of this we can talk about without spoilers. So we're going to have to do a lot of this in spoilers. But we have talked about in recent weeks, I think maybe on this podcast, maybe in a bonus podcast, maybe in our real life, if you can even imagine that sort of thing. They don't make like broad Zucker Brothers comedies anymore. Yeah, like your, your epic movie. Oh, it's scary movies. Yeah, yeah. Your superhero movie. Oh, it's Paris Hilton. Exactly. Oh, it's Jessica Simpson. And I think one of the reasons for that is because there's every there's so much stuff out there. Yeah. And everybody's getting their entertainment from so many different avenues that you could make

a movie like that. And it could have 100 references to movies and TV shows and memes and politics and current events and a person to be toilet and a person could watch it and come out and go, I didn't get any of those because it was a Netflix movie I didn't see. It was a TV series on stream. I didn't watch Game of Thrones. Yeah, exactly. That sort of stuff. And this movie, again, plot wise, not great.

But this is like one of those movies. I don't mean quality wise. I mean like as a framework. This is like this is like one of those movies. I don't mean quality wise. Yeah, I mean like as a framework This is like scatter shot. This is like a like a Zucker brother I think I would say it's it's not as good as like an airplane or a top secret But it is like a cut above it but it's the it's sort of this works because You know that the people who are going to watch this at least have a like a framework of that

Yeah You know that the people who are going to watch this at least have a like a framework of that Yeah, like they know if they haven't seen every one of these movies. They know there's a lot of Marvel stuff out there They've seen the X-Men movies. They say So it's kind of like a Zucker Brothers. Yeah, okay kind of thing It's it's like if they made the movie hot shots and they cast Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer as Maverick and Goose to make fun of the movie Top Gun. Right. It's that. They've got Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds to make fun of their own prior work. Right, yeah.

So I've made peace with that. So I would say, look, I would say as a general, generally speaking, like if you see- It's enjoyable. Yeah, if you see this as a series of loosely connected sketches that are like, that are making fun of the many foibles of the overly complicated Marvel universes, I think it mostly works. I think there are a lot of funny gags. I think there's some dead space. I think as...

Our theater, we saw it in a pretty packed theater. It wasn't... and that was like the earlier session that you could see it. And people weren't like rolling around the floor laughing. in a pretty packed theater. It wasn't, and that was like the earliest session that you could see it. And people weren't like rolling around the floor laughing. Like it got some laughs, but it wasn't, people weren't, there wasn't, would you say there wasn't like a lot of laughs from people? I don't care about where there anybody else laughs.

I laughed a bunch of times. No, no, no, I'm not saying that it's not funny. I'm just saying the reception wasn't like just raucous. Oh, okay, right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe. I I'm just saying the reception wasn't like just raucous. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, maybe. I reckon that for me, there was like three really solid jokes that I enjoyed, which we'll talk about in spoilers. But I think all in all, like a lot of it was like, a lot of the jokes were referenced to a previous thing or a pop culture reference and look at my balls and that's kind of the cycle. Did you get a kind of robot chicken vibe from it? It's like a long episode of robot chicken.

It's you know, some of it's pretty low-hanging fruit like balls. Some of it's like, you know, this guy's too stoic or this guy has an accent that's difficult to understand. Like it felt kind of, you know, um, you, you, when we, after we watched this, you said that my opinion was probably going to be, this is like reading a random issue of a comic book. And I'm like, how dare you? But it kind of was. But again, I think as a series of sketches that are like, you're in the know, and you're having a bit of fun, this isn't the death of cinema.

You know? There are people out there going, oh, this is, this is, this is a cynical slop or whatever. I genuinely think that the people like a lot of effort has a lot of effort went into some, like many aspects of this. I think the idea of like, we've all experienced these movies and there's a lot of funny to be mined out of this sort of stuff. I think a lot of that works. But again, I think the plot is weak. Yeah, like it's weak. And's it's it's like I said earlier Why would you tell Deadpool that you're going to destroy his universe? Like that's the thing that could have been solved and I think I genuinely think that was probably gonna be a conversation that Deadpool overheard

Oh, yeah, there's a character that can you know? Flay you alive with the power of their mind from 20 feet away until it's inconvenient to happen. And then they just don't. Yeah, it's that it's that sort of thing. If you are if you're going through this to if you if you were thinking this is going to be like a rock solid addition to the MCU, like when more stuff has to make sense, it's not going to work for you. Yeah. So Emma Corran plays Cassandra Nova. And yeah, I think she's actually good. Like her performance is good, but yeah, it is that bit of like, you could kill everybody. Also like often we... But she doesn't because she's crazy. That's right. Because often they'll go in... A lot of this is in the void, which we've seen in Loki. So if you get zapped with one of those sticks, you end up in the void. So who knows who you're going to run into in there.

That's right. And then that... Maybe some cameos. That big cloud is coming. But also, like, you can just kind of go inside Ant-Man and then it won't get you. Yeah. I'm not really sure. Like, I think that speaks to like, yeah, we didn't think about it that much, which

is fine, because really this is just a, this whole structure is an avenue for doing the jokes. Yeah. But I would say that being said, some of the jokes could have been better. Yeah, I don't disagree. Because I think also in, I think the first Deadpool in particular, it's so tight because of the budget. And you like every scene has to, has to work and connect in a way that makes sense.

And you can't rely on like, oh, look who that is or whatever. Like well, you don't have to do this. You can kind of like, it feels kind of more slapdash and we can do whatever. Like, well, you don't have to do this. You can kind of like it feels kind of more slapdash and yeah, we can do whatever. Like I know also people are talking about and this speaks more to the cameos that it is like a loving homage to like Fox Marvel. But I don't really know if it is. I mean, there's kind of a there's a bit at the like you see you might see like a few people from that universe again, not skid into specifics. But at the end in the credits, there's, there's like some behind the scenes footage of some of those movies to set to Green Day's Time of Your Life.

But I think so it leaves you with the sense that like this is a loving homage, but these characters a lot of the times they'll show up and they're in a room together and they have a conversation, but it does again feel like that thing of like, well, that person probably didn't film on the same day as that person. And you know, and there's an action scene, but it's, you know, it doesn't really kind of gel in a way that they're working together. Yeah. So I don't know if it is, do you think it is like a loving homage? I think probably like Jackman and Reynolds do genuinely like a lot of the work they've done. And I think that sort of comes through.

Also, they're really good. Like they're great. I mean, Hugh Jackman especially. He's put, for a guy who has said in the past that he doesn't really want to do Wolverine anymore. He's doing a lot of Wolverine. Maybe he's changed his mind, but he puts in 150%. He's putting in way more than anybody else in this movie.

Absolutely. And the idea in this universe is that this guy is the worst Wolverine in the multiverse, but it's just the same Wolverine you've seen. Absolutely. Not in a bad way. Yeah. We do visit some odd dimensions.

We'll talk about this in spoilers, but yeah, if you're like, maybe this will be a Wolverine we haven't seen before, you have. You saw him. Probably the Wolverine is probably the closest version. No, it's Logan. Oh yeah, it is like, it's slightly younger Logan. Yeah, it's exactly Logan. Oh, it's like it's Logan. Oh, yeah, it is like it's slightly younger. Yeah, it's exactly like. Oh, it is exactly like that.

They have a very similar story. You are you are you are not wrong. But yeah, so I would say, look, we're going to get another we're going to get another Deadpool. You would imagine if this is going to do the numbers that they're expecting.

I mean, he'll at least show up. Yeah. So I would like another Logan. I would like another Deadpool movie. Again, I would like another movie that's... When I was a kid, there was a Marvel comic called What the? And it was like the parody comic. Like Rove's What the?

Yeah, I think that's where he got the name. And it was kind of... It was like Mad Magazine, but with all the Marvel characters. Right, okay. And it felt like that. And I would like another Deadpool. Again, if you're being like, well, this is the self-referential one. This is where we do funny sketches about all our previous work.

I would love to see another one if the jokes were better. And you worked a bit harder on it. Wow. I was going to save this to the end, but I'm going to do it now. This is other concepts which were considered for the movie. Now, some of these have been revealed in like, on Hot Ones. Yeah, there's no spoilers here in terms of what they ended up making. This is from executive producer Wendy Jacobson who spoke to Comic Book Resources who said

so many different ideas, they really ran the gamut. I think at one point we had a very modestly budgeted indie road trip movie with him and Doe Pinder, Doe Pinder who's barely in this. We had a frame for frame remake of Thor 2 with Deadpool in it until the first act break. We had all kinds of things. That would be funny. Yeah. We had Deadpool's deleted scenes at Stravaganza where he was just going to show that Deadpool

was in the MCU all along. His scenes were just on the cutting room floor. I think they should have done that with the sentry. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because he's the character that everyone forgot. Have I talked about it on the podcast?

You have yeah, okay. Maybe the paywall stuff. Oh, maybe Do you want to talk about it? No, not really But I've always said that they should be You should if the Sentry would get his own solo move which I don't think is gonna happen anymore But the idea that he's a character that was in the Marvel Universe and everybody forgot you put you just insert him into Well, you'd maybe even do a POV shot of him in those scenes You know like the scene in the Avengers where they're all, you know, in the third act where

they're all like, you go and do this and you go and do this. Iron Man, you go and do this and Hulk smash. And by the way, Sentry, you go and do this. And then it's like, right, he's always been there. He remembers. Yeah, yeah, you're right, though. I don't think they'll do that. I don't hot ones.

Of course, they said the original idea for the movie was to shoot a fake movie called Alpha Cop. That was intentionally bad. I even had one of the posters made. It was about two guys, this is Ryan Reynolds talking, it's about two guys that were sharing one brain and together they make the perfect cop. It was meant to be kind of like horrible, like 10 people in America would go to see this movie on opening weekend and five minutes into the movie, the Marvel logo would flip up and it would actually be Deadpool and Wolverine. The problem is that if you managed to get down to the last

minute and it got blown, it would just be heartbreaking. You would, yeah. You could not pull that off either. No. Also, speaking of my great ideas, did we talk about this? I thought that that's how the way they should have done the Matrix resurrections. Oh, like pretend it's a different movie. Pretend it's a movie where you pretend it's a movie where- Like a rom-com. Well, yeah, you pretend it's a, you could use most of the elements from the movie, but

you pretend it's a, you do a press release where it's like one of the Wachowski's is retained with Keanu Reeves and Carrie Anne Mosfer like a rom-com. It's about a software executive and he's tired of his job and there's a mom and they have a connection or whatever. And you do a limited release and it'd be like, everybody'd be like, you know, most people like, well, if it's not the matrix, I'm not seeing it. But some people would be like, I like that creative team. I'll go see it.

And then 20 minutes in, you're like, are we in the matrix? But again, it's too late. Yeah, it's too late. That would be oh man like and that would be like recreating the original matrix twist. That's what I'm talking about. And the idea how that would work would be because people because it's it the matrix resurrections is about people who've like boiled the matrix down to Kung Fu and whatever and slow mo. So it's for the people who are like, no, I actually like creativity. I'll go and see. But again, it's too late.

You had a similar idea for something related to a rom-com, but I feel like I don't want to say it because somebody would just do it. No, it was a rom-com that diverged into a horror movie. Yeah. Now that was it. And I feel like that's probably been done. You can do that in horror because there's no financial and nobody's yeah, I'm getting a close on it Well, like again, nobody would do it in I it's it's it's very easy to have great novel ideas when nobody's letting you handle the money

exactly because there was We've talked about this that like the matrix 4 came out because maybe Hollywood that's all all they wanted from Wachowskis generally. So the idea that they could, you know, a novel way to do this could be pitched wouldn't work because if nobody went to see it, it's a failure. I don't disagree. Just before we do spoilers, I just want to talk a little bit about the action. I think it's pretty kind of static and repetitive. Like initially when you see Wolverine fight Deadpool, it's interesting, but then pretty kind of static and repetitive. Yeah. Like initially when you see like Wolverine 5 Deadpool, it's interesting, but then it kind of happens again.

And they have like this big kind of wanna together at the end. And it's just kind of flat. And I think part of it is like, I think the first one is probably the most interesting, but they're invincible. So it kind of just goes on, but it's not funny enough to be like. They're invincible. But if you cut Deadpool's head off, that would be the end of it. And yet somehow a man with six adamantium claws never does that.

Yeah. You know? Maybe he doesn't want to. Maybe he doesn't want to. Or maybe he's too good a guy. Maybe he is. But yeah, you're right. I think the first action sequence is the best one. Yeah. Which is without Wolverine.

Oh, I was gonna say the fight that he has with Wolverine is the best Wolverine fight that they have. The one in the void. The one in the void. It's pretty good yeah. But in the right. Just to see it. Then there's another one in a car and there's you know and so on and so forth. Yeah look I'm gonna say best movie ever. Do you want to do needle drops just quickly? There's a lot of them yeah and they're pretty jarring. Yeah. Is that because it's a is that because Deadpool needs to be a heightened version of previous movies and Guardians 3 and those sort of movies have really like that's that is pretty much as far as you go.

Guardians 3 Borderlands upcoming. That's right. Big needle drop movies. Is that as you know that's pretty much right up to the line before being very obnoxious. So if you are if you were making a Deadpool movie where everything has to be heightened and more They have to be obnoxious. Yeah, or is it just they're like this is just what we do I mean, I like the the Madonna one I like that there's an instinct one at the start and I don't remember any of the other ones

I remember some of them being like, oh, yeah. Anyways, uh, forward do spoilers, yeah, I think it is best movie ever. I've seen also people being like, this reignites the MCU, but I don't know, because as somebody famously shouted at me in YouTube comments, Deadpool lives in his own space. And this doesn't really point to the bigger thing that they're doing. That's true, yeah. I know that it does do some multiverse stuff, and who knows who could show up next. But there is also a couple of self-referential lines that are like people are tired of the multiverse. Yes You know too bad. Yeah too bad. You're getting a few more settle in

That's right, but it does kind of feel like this like all Deadpool movies. This is kind of self-contained Yes, and I I don't know I think as a hit on its own. Yes Does that will it mean that people will be excited for like Thunderbolts? No, because that has nothing to do with the bits. That's exactly right. Or Captain America. Nobody wants to look at Florence Pugh's balls. No, exactly.

Anyway, spoilers. All right. Cameos Mason. It's time for spoilers and cameos. Henry Cavill is Wolverine. Folks, if you haven't already been spoiled by the internet. Yeah. Oh, and we did a video on it. All right. Oh, and that has its own cameo in it. Did you see it?

Oh, did you get it? Yeah, I got it. Nice. Hell yeah. So check out that. We've got a video on the biggest cameos. It's very relevant. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. I mean, first, if we can talk about Henry Cavill. So he's been long remembered as the new Wolverine of all I wanted him to be fan fantastic So they got him in yeah, that's a bit of fun. Yeah, it's gonna bite the first cameo I wanted to talk about was the one so now it's the second well is the one that They probably shouldn't have spoiled because it like the movie it removes the kind of the emotional resonance of the movie.

There's a room full of like heroes of old from the old Fox universe or whatever and the last reveal is Daphne Kane. So X-23 from the movie Logan. I would have loved that if I didn't know that. Kevin Feige said that he did that because Daphne Keane wanted to go to the premiere and then No one would have thought no she could have just been like yeah, remember I was in Logan I'm here to support Hugh Jackman and say hello to Hugh Jackman Jake Lloyd went to the attack of the clones premiere probably yeah, and then they're like He's not even in that movie

And they're like we thought about it. I thought it'd be a pretty good idea people would see this also Yeah, like speaking of plot wise and how kind of weak this is Yeah, Wolverine has exactly the same character arc as he did in Logan He's a he's a he's a you know He's quit the biz and he had a all his friends are dead and he doesn't believe he can be a hero anymore And then x23 shows up and it's like no I believe in you. She's like, okay Well, then it's literally the same both the same characters in the same more and then X-23 shows up and is like no I believe in you. She's like okay I will then. It's literally the same with both the same characters and the same actors.

She literally says to him listen last time we did this you said you didn't want to do it but then you did do it. And look I know it's not literally the same character although it's both literally the same actors. It could be the same it could literally be because the Logan guy is in a different universe than the mainline wolf. a different universe than yeah mainline So it could be the mainline will it doesn't matter but it's the fact that it's just Like it weakens the whole thing that he is just going through the same arc

Yeah, I think they should have picked up one of the weirder ones I think I think maybe there was a point at which and you've mentioned this before like that Maybe they were just gonna use Logan from the movie Logan. It wouldn't surprise me if somewhere along the line, they thought, what if Deadpool kidnaps Logan from the first scene in Logan? And then he has a character arc where he learns to go get get rid of his, you know, yeah, a banish his past to become a better person. And then at the end of Deadpool and Wolverine, he gets his memory wiped. And then he gets put back at the start of the movie. And he's bitter and broken again and then he has the arc again. That would be kind of funny I think. Or you kidnap him.

And there was a reference to be like yeah you're going to do this all again by the way. Or you kidnap him just before he learns his lesson and he learns a lesson in Deadpool's universe and then he puts him back. He goes I learned my lesson in another universe actually. Yeah that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Well, my I think my initial idea was that you have Logan be actually Hugh Jackman and it's Deadpool dragging Hugh Jackman through this adventure. That is fun. And he puts him through the X-Men experiment.

Hasn't that happened in a movie maybe? Probably. Yeah. I feel like it's in like the three Amigas. Oh, I was going to say it. No, it's it happened in the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special. Oh, yeah Kevin Bacon Yeah, that's sort of the same. Yeah, but different my idea was better. It is better. It is better in first. Yeah Speaking of I was gonna say I think also a lot of Wolverine is in this is him standing behind Deadpool as Deadpool just like run

Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's not Super Wolverine heavy. is. Yeah. It's not super Wolverine heavy. No, yeah. No. Anyway, do you like his little costume? I did like his little costume. Yeah. And we're still talking cameos. Yeah. Okay. So cameos. Johnny Storm. Johnny Storm. Bit of fun. Bit of fun. Bit of fun. I knew it would be Johnny Storm. Yeah, I know. We all knew it. I knew it first. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Oh, it's Chris Evans for those if you're listening. He comes back and I think yeah, I think we talked about it. I knew it first. Yeah, I was Chris Evans for those if you're listening comes back and I think yeah, I think we talked about this in the video, but it would it would

have been more surprising if Chris Evans didn't turn up in like free guy. Yeah, true. Yes. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah. But I get that's the 2005 Fantastic Four Johnny Storm. Yeah. Okay. The the super team that Deadpool forms. So it's Jennifer Garner as a lecturer from the movie Electra in Deadpool. And I maintain I maintain they went to Ben Affleck and they couldn't get him so they went to her. Initially I thought when you said that they went to Ben Affleck for permission to use the joke. That's what I thought you could. Oh no they just do it. One of the times I laughed at a joke where where Deadpool learns that daredevil has died in this universe. And he goes, I'm so sorry for your loss. And Jennifer Garnes like, it's fine.

Because they were married in real life. That's a fun, mean joke. I quite liked it. She's good. I think so too. Yeah. She's still got the moves from Alias. Got it all. And then of course, we've got Blade. Yep. Didn't see that one coming That was fun. Wesley snide. I don't know whether I'd heard that because I feel like I heard a hundred cameo rumors Yeah, and maybe I'm just desensitized to cameos, but I'm not like whoa anymore. I think there should have been more cammy I agree. I think they should have got Anna Paquin, but it's not rogue

It's her character from the movie the piano sure they should have all been fine It would have been the Michael B. Jordan, Michael Jordan joke from Space Jam Legacy. You get one of the Ashmores and you think it's going to be Iceman, but then it turns out it's the other Ashmore and it's Jimmy Olsen. James Gunn would allow that, it'd be fine. Agreed. I did a Green Lantern joke in the last one. Exactly.

Who else is on that team? Gambit. Gambit. Channing Tatum Gambit. Yeah. And again, people are like, oh, actually Death of Cinema because actually he wasn't even cast. Yeah, but it's funny. And they say that in the thing as well because he's like, I don't think I've ever been in

a real universe. Which is true because he was supposed to be Gambit. So you may have seen this, but when they did the cameo reveals at SDCC, Channing Tatum was wearing the same t-shirt that he was wearing in 2015. It's a Gambit t-shirt. Oh really? That he was wearing when it was maybe in S and he was going to do it like in years and years ago. Yeah I liked his accent. Actually one of the jokes that I liked was his dialect coach, the Deadpool asks if his dialect coach is the minions or something like that. Oh yeah that's right. He's doing a terrible

f***ing accent. Oh but then speaking of just their group fight sequence was not very exciting. No, no, that's what I mean. It was a lot of... Speaking of that one and the sequence where Deadpool and Wolverine fight the Deadpool Corps, just walking, just running and stabbing, not interesting. Somebody pointed this out and it was really obvious once it was pointed out. There's a moment where Deadpool and Wolverine fight their way through a bus and then they leap out the front window. Yeah.

And then Wolverine is just he's just a CGI guy. Yeah. Like 10 seconds doing like an idle animation. Right. It's terrible. But I like the mask. Yeah. Well, the mask comes on just before.

Yeah. I mean, we see the brown costume in this. I do prefer the brown costume. Yeah. Yeah. So we got it. We got an Age of Apocalypse Wolverine. We got a Patch Wolverine. Yep. We got

The one across and one res crucified Wolverine. Yeah, another one in there. There's tiny little Wolverine comic accurate Wolverine Yes, someone I feel like there's another one. Maybe that we missed also in the cameo video The skeleton Wolverine, of course. Yes, Logan Yeah, and then yeah all the Deadpools I was kind of not super fast. And it's been confirmed the Lady Deadpool is... Yeah, the Blake Lively. Blake Lively. Matthew McConaughey is in there. There's a few others. Someone's the voice of Deadpool

that I should know. I saw the voice of that and I can't remember who the voice was but I went, oh yeah. Deadpool voice. Oh, it's Nathan Fillion. Oh yeah, and there's handsome voice. Oh, there's, oh, it's Nathan Fillion. There you go. Okay. Oh yeah. And there's handsome Deadpool. Nice pull. Yes. Right. That's the joke that I like.

He does a fourth wall break when he says the proposal. Oh yeah. And then that joke I liked. That was fun. That was a good joke. It was a good joke. Did you feel like at the end, cause Wolverine's like, I'm going out on my own. I'm doing my own thing now.

And then Deadpool invites him back and he needs to live with him or whatever. I feel like this does- I thought they were going to kiss. Maybe. Why not? Let's do it. Let's go. It was like a before you go turn around and then they were going to kiss but they didn't.

Yeah. Cowards. Yeah. I think we've already seen some YouTube thumbnails that are like, men are back and men are ruling the MCU. Deadpool is not straight. I mean it's fairly obvious from this movie, but also like in the comic books. And the previous movies. And the previous movies, but yeah.

And Hugh Jackman, I thought like, is he not gonna take his shirt off? Did he get ripped for no reason? But then he was shirt off with a mask and I'm like, you can do that with anybody. But then he was shirt off, mask off. He's big! He's big and huge. He's big and huge He's big and again that thing of like well the whole the time Ripper is gonna destroy the entire universe unless But even if if you if you try to stop it, you'll one person will die, but two people they're fine It's the guardians the galaxy thing. Yeah, we all hold hands. Yeah, that's right

It's not gonna kill us or whatever. Yeah, yeah weak source. I think Hugh Jackman is gonna do this again I mean, there's a joke that like they're gonna make him do it till he's 90. Yeah. I think he's gonna go through the multiverse saga. Oh, at least, yeah, at least Secret Wars. Yeah. Because there is no indication in this. Maybe other than X-23 who might stay, this doesn't hint towards any X-Men shit.

In fact, if I were to hazard a guess, I'm going to say that they will recast Wolverine by Secret Wars and then they'll do the handshake. Oh, passing of the torch. Passing of the torch, because that's the only way you'll be able to do it. That's the only way an audience will accept it is if you have old Wolverine go, I like this guy, he's the new guy. Good job, kid. Good job, kid.

You're as good a Wolverine as I am. If not better. That's right. But not better. I got some some reviews here Mason. Go on. From Twitter. Oh yes. Jonathan who says new Deadpool. New Deadpool then. I think I hated it. Emotionally hollow, especially compared to the first two cameos that require knowledge of real life stuff. Like it's a Kevin Smith movie. Terrible action and not really very funny. Worst movie ever. But Russell Michaels said, oh no, he said, no, he went, robot dreams was wonderful and sad and sweet. Lots of emotion with no dialogue. Best movie ever. Oh, I didn't realize. We should watch robot dreams. Probably

it's really good. It's a robot dream. I think it's on Netflix or something. It looks fun in French or something. Yolkman says, saw Deadpool and Wolverine in a midnight screening. Thought it was all right. Fun action and chemistry, however, it was very evident that they rushed it out due to the strike. Still best movie ever, don't regret seeing it. John Paul says, just got out of Deadpool and Wolverine.

I laughed, I cried and I mouthed along to songs. I'm not going to sing in a movie theater, I'm not a psycho, so it gets a best movie ever rating. Nate Harris says, spoilers for Deadpool. Surprise they acknowledge fan four stick in the credits. They did, didn't they? But they made me cry that one multi-billion dollar company bought another multi-billion dollar company. And Dewey Boyman

says it might be the most self-indulgent movie ever made and God bless them for it. Best movie ever. What's interesting is the reviews of this from our listeners, from just general population on Twitter and professional critics and all sorts, they've been all over the place and all of them seem at least somewhat valid. Yes. Somebody will be like, this is the death of cinema. I'm like, to one degree or another, this is the death of cinema.

But somebody will be like, I got a blast. I'm like, you should have a blast. That's what you know, this isn't the end of the world. No, absolutely it's not. There will be more of these forever. It's got an 80% on Rotten Tomatoes as a recording and it's got 10,000 plus certified audience reviews sitting at 97%. So yeah, I think generally, yeah, the reception to this has been very positive.

I think this will, over time, this will kind of Spider-Man, Spider-Man No Way Home kind of decrease when you don't have that kind of the surprise of it when you're not sitting in a theater. Yeah. When you know, you know, kind of what's coming, I think. And I know I had some criticism of No Way Home at the time again for script reasons. Yeah. But again, it didn't, it doesn't feel like that's as relevant in when it's making jokes about a universe where the script has never been important or the continuity has never

been important really. Absolutely. So that's Deadpool, Mason. Deadpool. He'll be back in another movie and be like, I can't even swear here. I'm F'ing and Jeff. I want to use the F and I'm in the PG-13 but somebody else used it so I can't say it. I can't say it. Yeah. The Guardians of the Galaxy 3 F-bomb. That's one of the best uses of it. Incredible.

Yeah. Still good. I think it was improv. Might have been. Or like James Gunn like threw it to Chris Pratt. That's great. It's incredible. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. Because then you look at that you look at the X-Men Cross the Road movie. Yeah For aliens. Uh-huh. That F-bomber is just, God, just a great place to put it. Yeah. Anyways, should we move it along? Let's move it along to what we read. Yeah. What we gonna read. Movies are back, baby! Movies are back. I'm doing the same. What are we reading today? Umbrella Academy's back. I haven't had a chance to watch any of it yet. Oh, the ride, that's exciting.

I'll go and check that out. Oh, well, I would have watched that had I known. Well, you were busy. I was busy. Watching alien movies for carbon and carbon. I was watching a bunch of alien movies, but I also watched the Ministry of Ungentlemanly War. And what did you think?

It's pretty fun. Yeah, it's fun. You also watched it then? I've watched it a while back. Oh, interesting. It's no Quentin Tarantino's and Gloria's Bastards. No, but it's trying very hard to be, but also be, I wouldn't say family friendly, but more broadly appealing, I think, than that.

You get a couple of colorful characters. Just some accents and some shotguns. I think the movie also gets less interesting as it goes along. I agree. But I would say a bunch of action sequences are pretty solid. We've got some espionage. I mean, speaking of Inglorious Basses, there's even a scene where one of the characters reveals themselves to be not a German by their, like a slight slip of the tongue. She says the something like that a lot of the scene in a glorious Passes where he says the three there are glasses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's good stuff. Anyway, you didn't mind it though Didn't mind it. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't mind it. That's not Henry Golding was good. Yeah, you know, he's good

Big Jack reaches in it big tiny little glasses. That's right. That's right. And Henry Cavill Mmm, I characters was wearing a modern jacket. Oh my god. I could buy that in a shop. Where did you get that modern jacket from? He got it from Universal Works. Oh did he really? Yeah. I went to Minotaur. Minotaur Comics in Melbourne. And I met Nathan. Nathan Drake. From Uncharted. Were you having some sort of brain issues? It was Tom Holland's Nathan Drake. He said hello, I'm Nathan Drake. Do you like my Henley? And I said yeah, it's good. You also wearing a Henley. I was wearing a Henley. No, I was wearing a big raincoat. You'd look good in a Henley.

Shut up idiot. Oh what? What? What you say to me? You absolute burk. Then he went into third person mode. He crouched behind the desk. So he could shot a bit. No, I met Nathan who worked there, who was a fan of the show. It was lovely. That's the first reaction we've ever got from anybody who works at Minotaur Comics. Yeah. I've been there in ages. I've shopped there for years and nobody ever says anything.

He said he met you or saw you once maybe another time. Interesting. Okay. I just mean like not even like... What do you want from people? What do you think you're a big shot? James, we've talked about this in the past bus I don't mean because as a as a person who hosts a podcast I just mean you could buy anything from a comic shop and it can be the craziest thing in the world and they will never No, I'll never mention it because they don't want to engage with their customers and rightly so yeah I bought a bunch of comics and stuff from my son and whatever but the one that I'm starting reading is Batman Fortress Okay, where there's a blackout in Gotham City and Batman's like this is bad

I turned by Gary Witter who worked on a bunch of stuff including Rogue One and video game stuff He doesn't video game stuff. I think he does some yeah doesn't I think he's on kind of funny occasionally or he was at least But then Batman's like what else is going on and then he realizes that actually know the whole world is experiencing a blackout and Superman Is gone? Whoa, and that's about as far as I've gotten. So anyway, I'm enjoying it as of so far. But yeah, that's what I've been reading. Gary Whittle was the editor-in-chief of both the UK and US versions of PC, Gamer Magazine, and a contributor to the Gamer Magazine, Ace.

That's where I know I'm from. You were right. I know things. I was about to make fun of you. I mean, I still can, just not for that specifically. That's true. You can if you want. And those are the things we've been reading and watching and doing and listening.

Next week, as mentioned, we're going to do the movie Trap, and we're both going to watch... It's the new M. Night Shyamalan movie. It's got Josh Hartnett. Correct. And we're both going to also watch Rebel Moon. We're not going to do that. I'm never going to do that. We're probably going to watch some of Umbrella Academy, which is a show we do like and is wrapping up. That's right. Will we do a whole episode on it? I don't know.

We'll probably talk about it a little bit. It's not week to week. They've put the whole season up. Oh, that's a great question. Thank you. I asked good questions. They should bring me to Hollywood and I can ask all sorts of questions like, Hey, Wachowski's, why didn't you do that thing I said about The Matrix two years after it came out? That's a good question. Hey, hey, hey, give me money. I could say, give me money. I'd love some money. I'd love some money. Thank you, Hollywood. Oh, wait, is this not out yet? It says it's out August 8th, but I swear. James, it isn't August 8th yet.

No, it's not out. So I guess it's out a different time. It started in 2019. Correct. God, that was the same year as Avengers Endgame. Correct. Yeah. It's out August 8th, which is... I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know. It's not out. It's not out. Don't email me. Yeah. All right. August 8th, which is I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know.

It's not out. It's not out. Don't email me. Yeah. All right. Send James a little email. Next segment, Mason. Yes, it's letters.

Yay! It's a letters theme. Wow. Hugh Jackman and, whoops, it's an Anovee movies video I want to play. What the heck. Oh yeah, I clicked on the coming soon, that's why. Oh you son of a bitch. Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds were on Chicken Shop Date. They did so many interviews. They did.

My YouTube feed is just. And based on the outfits they were wearing, they did like a hundred in a day. Yeah. Crazy. I haven't watched the chicken shop one, but I did watch the Hot Wings, Hot Ones one, and it was great. It was just watching Hugh Jackman just lose his mind. Now, so here's the thing as well. When I watch one of those, I'm always like, or are they acting? But he looked like he was dying. He did. I mean, he was sweating and bleeding from his eyes. That's true. Yeah. Let me ask you this, James. Some people say, because I watched a YouTube video recently and they were talking about how they apparently, Hot Ones is owned by BuzzFeed and they're trying to sell it. Just Hot Ones or the whole thing. Just Hot Ones. Yeah. Okay. First we feast. And apparently it's there, you know, they're not selling it yet. And it's not because I think it's some people are like, well, because, you know, it's so tied to Sean Evans and so et cetera.

He has to go with he has to go with it is the question. So one question that came up a lot of a lot of people's low stakes conspiracy theory is that the wings on hot ones, the sources on hot ones used to be hotter, but now they're not because people used to tap out and now they don't. Yeah. You think? Well, that's a good question, Mason. That's a great... I mean, there is the theory that the last one isn't as hot as the previous one. Yeah. Yeah. Or then people's taste buds are dead by then. Yeah. I don't know. I honestly don't know. I mean, I know DJ Khaled tapped out, like two wings in. He taps out of all sorts of stuff as far as I know. I've heard some

stuff that he will not do. That's right. For strange reasons. But just do it, man. What are you doing? But also, I think also have people now have knowledge of it. Yes. Go in and you like if I did it, which I would never happen. You've got a million followers. Oh, yeah, I've got a million subscribers.

And that translates to a million views a video. But I would just do it. I would just power through. Yeah, I think it's two things. I think they are exactly as hot. I think that one is absolutely right. People know what they're getting into. And also, a lot of celebrities have celebrity friends have also been on and they say, now remember. And their family tells them about it. Yeah, family tells them about it. The kids tell them about it. And there's the expectation that they'll finish it. And they'll say, do this and you know drink the milk and whatever and You know and they'll also I think maybe in the previous versions the early seasons people like arts a YouTube show who's gonna watch

Yeah, who'd be willing to just tap out? But now everybody knows yeah millions of people see it and they will see you embarrassed if you and I think the second thing is That the show's producers have gotten better at pacing out the questions. Oh, okay. Because remember in the early seasons, there would be like long elaborate questions and they would have follow ups and sometimes somebody would tell a story and they would animate the story and all that sort of stuff. Oh yeah! And I think what has happened in, what happened in earlier seasons is they asked these long elaborate questions

and the celebrities would be like, man, we've here 30 minutes, and I've only done three yeah How long is this gonna go and give up? But I think now a lot of the questions while they're still good a lot of them are kind of they're short and sharp Yeah, they're gussied up. Yes, or what's the best kind of thing you got in that town you're from exactly Yeah, what what do you think is it this or this and they can say one? Yeah, they have to think about it too hard They say you film it in half an hour and they elaborate and they can and they go and they just go out where we're ten minutes in and we've done half of Them and yeah, you know that sort of thing so yeah, I think that's it. I think you're probably right

Yeah, I mean the format now. It's so tight. Yeah, like it's really and you've seen I mean so many people have tried to replicate it It's like you know killing killing nine ducks and answering questions While eating a beach ball throttling a duck While leading a beach ball or whatever. While throttling a duck. While eating a beach ball and throttling a duck. It's actually hard to answer this question because I'm eating this beach ball. And this duck keeps snapping at me. Just keep trying to kill the duck Hugh. Hugh?

Who are we talking about? Do you say Hugh? Yeah, Hugh. Hugh Grant. No, Hugh Jackman. Oh, okay. Yeah, because he's in the movie we're talking about. He's in the movie we're talking about, yeah. I don't actually like killing this duck. I don't feel good about this.

Well, you agreed to it. Everybody kills all the ducks. Yeah, that's right. There's a dead duck a question. Only DJ Khaled didn't kill all the ducks. But there's a lot of things he doesn't do. Yeah, a lot of things he doesn't do. Anyways, this is the lettuce segment of the show. We're nine minutes into it.

Yeah, we sure are. If you do want to reach the show you can hashtag weeklyplatterpot on Twitter. That's right. Here's an email from Koi. Or weeklyplatterpot at gmail.com. Keep them brief. Koi, howdy mates. Like the fish. This is Koi coming at you live from Kansas. Like the famous Kansas Koi. Yeah man. Currently have tickets to purchase for Deadpool and Wolverine.

Must be nice. Can't wait to see what debauchery and shenanigans ensue. Relatedly, I have a question for both of you regarding team up projects. Like we've seen with Deadpool and Wolverine, Falcon the Winter Soldier and Ant-Man and the Wasp. Are there any superhero duos that you'd like to see paired in a film or show that focuses equal time on both characters? For me, I would love a Gambit and Rogue film or a Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy film. Oh, yeah, well I mean like the show, right? But I like...

Booster Gold and Blue Beetle is the first one that I would move to. I like odd combinations of characters. Yes. Like that, to me it's always the... Like my favorite sort of show is when it's, you know, there'll be an A and a B team. They'll be like, you know, these two characters are like on Brooklyn Nine Nine. Yeah, it was always Andy Samberg and the other guy. Yeah. And then it was the other two. Yes. But then when they switch it up, you know, it's a bit of fun. You're like, Oh, these guys don't normally normally this isn't Captain Holt's not gonna like this.

Exactly. But then he does like it. And he died. He died. That's sad. Yeah, it's no good Yeah, ah, so who who sort of fits that criteria? I mean again like for me it was just boosted obviously Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, I agree. What's odd couples, right? It's not talking about on couples. Yeah You talking superhero movies or just anything? Anything's too broad. We die here in this room. Okay, so let's do something of a single one Superman and I would love Superman and Guy Gardner. I know we're gonna do that Yeah, Superman legacy, but I think that would work totally they're both in that movie. They're both in that movie

So spin it off. Yeah, I don't know just a you know They could learn a little bit from each other. Absolutely. I'm just typing in Marvel characters. Okay, great. We've got... Terrific. You know, what if Thor teamed up with... Bigger Thor. Big Thor.

Jane Foster. Yeah, great. Terrific. Really good. I think there's some really interesting X-Men combos you can do. You know what I've always liked? Spider-Man. Oh, we did it.

I was going to say Spider-Man, Doctor Strange. Punisher, Doctor Strange. That's a good one. That's a good one, yeah. Completely different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ethos. Yeah. Uh, what else Mason? Hulk and a redder Hulk. Not too red. No. No. I like like, you know, like, like a John Constantine Batman is fun. Yeah. I mean, that works similarly to Doctor Strange Punisher. A magic guy and a normal guy. A magic guy and a normal guy who's like, why, why, why is this? Tell me why this door won't open?

Yeah, well you shot it with all those bullets Frank. That's why And I'm trying to use magic, but there's too many bullets. Yeah You know you do like a blade spider-man. You know what I mean? I mean, I know Deadpool spider-man That's obvious, but that would be good. They're a good combo. Yeah Yeah, I guess the instinct is always to do Deadpool somebody because it's Deadpool's the wackiest option Kingo Deadpool Kingo Deadpool the was Deadpool Ms. Marvel Deadpool in the Red Skull sure go on a Nazi adventure yeah sure yeah you did not see this coming yeah that that'd be this tagline. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about different clones of Spider-Man all teaming up?

I don't like that. Ben Reilly. No. And another guy and another guy. That sounds bad. What about Kang and a different Kang? Kang and a different Kang, sure. Two Kangs.

Mmm. Folks, email him with some odd duos he'd like to see. Venom and a redder venom. So they'd team up, they wouldn't be enemies anymore. Enemies to lovers trope. Okay, great. Yeah, really good. Really good. Alright man.

Submariner and Sandman. The wettest guy and the driest guy. Wet meets dry. It could be, it could be, it could be that Eric Bana could be the third in his trilogy. The dry, the wet. The wet and the dry. Cool. I like that question. It's a shame we didn't have good answers. Well, we never do. This one's from Matthew McQueen who says, I hope when you come to discuss Deadpool and

Wolverine you go into the marketing because I have seen every single penny of it. Haven't seen a film push so hard in years. I mean, yeah, we just did talk about that. It's everywhere. They're on every YouTube show that I've subscribed to or even recommended. A big billboard on Swan Street in Richmond. Is it really? Deadpool and Wolverine.

It's normally a car or a football. Yeah. Or a vodka or something. I wouldn't be surprised if this was like a $300 million movie with all the marketing. Now, one of the previous Deadpool movies, it might have been two, when they did the home media release. Do you remember when they changed all the box art for a bunch of Fox products? No.

Fox... That's fun though. So they were all Deadpool, but it's a serious thing, but Deadpool was on the cover. It's fun. Yeah, it is fun. What kind of Fox products products you talking about? They're banging off off. I'll bloody find it like TV shows and shit Yeah, like whatever their box and then they did the Fred Savage Christmas special. Hang on Deadpool

DVD covers Complete collection on reddit complete collection of Deadpool theme blu-ray slip covers. So the movies themselves are But so we got we... That's fun. Yeah, you got Predator, Seasons on Predator. Terminator, I don't know. Edward Scissorhands is on there. Assassin's Creed, that's a bad movie. My cousin Vinnie.

How'd he get there? I did Photoshop, I think. Fight Club. How'd he get there? Probably because of Photoshop. How'd he get there? Good and the bad. The Ugly Office Space is behind the Post-it Note guy.

How'd he get there? Probably Photoshop. Any others? Oh, I got guy. How'd he get there? Probably Photoshop. Any others? Oh, I got a few more. Yeah. This is from Michael. Good question though. Yes, they've filled, they've everywhere. Hey gents, you've answered this before but I want to get a definitive ranking here. Hey gents, Wolverine has the most distinct hairstyles in comics and I was wondering if you guys had a favorite and least favorite of all the hairstyles Hugh Jackman has sported during his time as the character. Old Man Wig's hobo hair and shaved heads included. What's the pod keep at the good work?

Ummm... I mean I like, I think the Wolverine is probably, you know, it's it's Wolverine-esque but it's not like crazy. Yeah I don't think that, I don't think the Deadpool and Wolverine hair is particularly good. The current one. It's alright. Neither is his X-Men 1 hair. No, 2 is pretty good. 3 is too big. Mmm.

I don't like the Origins one, I think it's too long. Yeah. It's too long, Mason. I don't mind it. Yeah? And the Logan one isn't. Just isn't. But he's got that nice beard going.

Yeah, but then they cut in the mutton chops. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, I would say probably The Wolverine or X-Men 2. Nice. Any objections? More love to The Wolverine, that's always good. I agree. That's true. A movie we thought was pretty good.

Yeah, it's pretty good. I've got a tweet here. It says, from Jay, who says, an idea for a podcast. Movies where the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes is way off. Okay. The Flash has an 8 on Rotten Tomatoes. Black Adam, I think, it says Black Adam. I don't know about that. Fell asleep while he was writing that. I think that could be fun. Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that.

I mean, I know like, Dial of Destiny got like a very high Rotten Tomatoes and people hate that movie. So yeah, and we could just, we could, we could really kick those critics, you know, which we're not, we're different. We're different somehow. We're somehow different. And we know it. That's right.

We've never had one of those hats with the little, little card that says press in it. We've never had one of those. I've never bothered to submit to Rotten Tomatoes because I heard you've got to do it a certain way and then you've got to put in a certain number of reviews and I'm like, I'm not doing that. Then you have to do it every week as well. Fuck that. I know we do review things every week, but why to put it in writing? I don't want to do an additional like...

Yeah, right? Yeah. I don't know, I've never gone to Rotten Tomatoes, seen a review and then clicked on that review and read the review. Like I do read reviews and watch reviews but I don't do it through Rotten Tomatoes. Somebody should subscribe for us and transcribe our reviews onto a Rotten Tomatoes review. No, I don't want to be on there. I don't want to get out on the fucking smoke. I want Mason. Leave me alone. Okay, here's an email, James. Okay. One more email from Jack. Jack. Hi James and Mason. Hi Jack.

I'm from Edinburgh, Scotland. I've been listening to one more email from Jack. Jack! Hi, James and Mace. Hi, Jack. I'm Jack. I'm from Edinburgh, Scotland. I've been listening to the pod for 10 years now. That's too long. Started when I was 14, still in school, and I'm still listening now. Why do people keep saying that? I don't know. 2024 now. About to have my first solo exhibition featuring my comic work.

Wow! That's right. The exhibition will be on whilst James is in town for the Edinburgh Live Show. Oh yeah, really? So you can check it out, maybe. Where is it? I'll tell you in a second. You boys have kept my love of comics alive

over the past 10 years, and some credit has to go to you both. Disagree. I mean, I love what you guys do, so much so that the comic might feature a little weekly planet reference. Also, if any other Scottish great mates fancy checking out, I'll run from August the 1st to September the 28th. It's called Plasticine Cowboy, a comic made entirely of plasticine. So here it is. Here's a little post to check this out.

Oh, that's cool. Okay, so it's at it's 1st of August to 28th, September 2024 free exhibition at as I think it's called out of the blueprint. I think I Out of the blue drill hall. The drill hall 32 to 36 Dalmini Street, Leith, Edinburgh, EH68RG. I just in case you needed the postal code. I cannot promise that I will be there, but that is awesome.

I hope everybody goes. Me too. Everybody in the world. I completely agree. Well, that's so cool. I double agree. Well, I don't double agree. Well, I don't triple agree on your behalf.

I don't want you to do that. Too late, I did it. I guess it is a bit too late. Yes. So well, there you go. What great Times times and emails and tweets that we get I agree and let's have enough Podcast, okay. We have both had enough. We both had enough podcasts and I guarantee the listeners had enough podcast No doubt folks. Thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it

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I'm Some calm a little bit calmer now, but it's mostly upset. Yeah. Yeah, my goodness. Anyway, grab that Jimmy guys We'll see you next week. We hope to trap up to trap. Goodbye