The Weekly Planet - 541 Alien: Romulus (with Alexei Toliopoulos)

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

This week Alexei Toliopoulos joins us to talk the latest installment in the Alien franchise, Alien: Romulus. He also gives us some insight into the world of Megalopolis and his involvement in the film and it’s quite frankly incredible. Plus we talk the news of the week including a new trailer for Kraven and Thunderbolts*, more terrible insight into Beau DeMayo firing from X-Men 97, Disney asking for licence to kill it’s subscribers, no Eternals 2, Hugh Jackman always being Wolverine forever, James Gunn on Superman reshoots and more dark universe news with the return of the Creature from the Black Lagoon. Thanks for listening!You can find Alexei’s great work here: https://linktr.ee/ThisisAlexeiUK Tour Tickets for Sanspants x The Weekly Planet available here: https://www.sanspantsradio.com/events/category/live-shows/James Guests on the Who Knew It Podcast: https://shows.acast.com/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/episodes/100-mr-sunday-movies-mish-wittrup-dave-warneke-and-suren-jayMaso Guest on the Do Go On Podcast: https://shows.acast.com/do-go-on/episodes/460-pokemon-with-nick-mason-from-the-weekly-planetPlease be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Maybe skip an extra few minutes.00:00 The Start04:28 Kraven Trailer10:24 Thunderbolts* Leaked Trailer17:58 Eternals 2 Cancelled Probably18:43 Beau DeMayo vs Disney/Marvel/X-Men22:59 Disney Plus Legal Death Trap News26:30 Hugh Jackman Staying in the MCU?30:55 James Gunn Superman Movie Reshoots33:05 Creature from the Black Lagoon Movie41:30 Alien: Romulus Review01:00:59 Alien: Romulus Spoiler Segment01:26:18 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:46:50 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Attracts in place? I think it attracts in place. Is this the peak of the joke? No. Good. We haven't hit the punchline yet. You're going to reveal that, right? In coming weeks. I won't just... The punchline has risen and like the setup has risen and fallen over many, many weeks. So you're going to find the perfect moment to insert the punchline. It's going to blow people's minds or just drift off.

Same thing with thoughts and prizes on the caravan. What do you keep saying that, you son of a bitch, even in a personal life, he's always asking for thoughts or prizes and like he can have those things, but it's not down to me. You know, that's actually really beautiful. Thanks, man. Listen, before we get on with the show and what a show. We've got a wonderful guest lined up this week to talk Alien Romulus. We do.

Alexi Toliopoulos is going to be stopping by. That's right. And then stepping out. That's right. If he knows what's good for him. Which I'm really excited about. He's always an absolute blast. I think it's going to go very well. Me too. It's going to be a good conversation. Yeah. I already feel that. There's going to be some laughs. Yep. There's going to be some learns. I agree

But before that of course, we've got the news of the week. That's right We're gonna Alex he's got no he's got no stake in this not not at all Maybe doesn't show up right before we do the last bit of news Can you imagine storms in here has opinions on the last bit of news we talk about I doubt it Yeah, so we're gonna do some trailers including Craven 2. That's Craven, there won't be a Craven 2 Trailer 2. Okay, I think there might be a Craven 2. Maybe. The Thunderbolts. I'm cravin an exciting action movie. Me too. And then of course the Thunderbolts trailer has leaked this week, so we're gonna get into that. We're gonna talk about the mystery. I love this stuff about Bo De Mayo being fired from X-Men. I don't like it.

No, I don't like it either, but it has to be talked about Mason at least this once more. I'm going to talk about how Disney arguing that they can kill people. Yep. If you watch a show. Basically, that's how it works. I'm going to talk about. It's like a bloody episode of Black Mirror isn't it? It is an update on the Eternals 2. We're going to talk about Hugh Jackman. It's canceled. Yeah, yeah, basically Those armor wars I think is it maybe probably blade also some super some scooper on there on the socials was like It's been quietly canceled for a while. Do you think blades been canceled? They didn't announce it. They did Yeah, I don't know I'm gonna talk about Hugh Jackman staying on potentially as Wolverine, how James Gunn's shooting of Superman is going. Probably not very well unless he's got a bloody kryptonite bullet everybody. That's a Coneyman reference for you. And then of course James Wan being in early talks to helm creature from the Black Lagoon, the Dark Universe is back.

I'm very excited for just you and me to talk about that. I would love that. That's all I want in this world. Just you and me on a big old chat about the creature from The Black Lagoon. Definitely. Now just quickly- If anybody else came in at the last moment, it would ruin it. Even if they had additional information about that. Yeah, and like better insight into the history of the character and, you know, really enriching stuff. Yuck.

Yuck. Just letting everybody know, I am going to the UK with a couple of fellas from over at Sands Pants, including Joel Dusha and Jackson Bailey. We've got some shows lined up. There are still tickets available for some of those, I believe. I don't know which ones. You have good luck getting them. Yeah, maybe. The second show in Edinburgh still got some tickets. I think. I don't know. I haven't looked at this. Second show in Manchester also and the Birmingham one. I don't know about the second show to that yet because they're having some trouble with something. I don't know. I'm not organizing it

Okay, that's Joel's amit, but speaking of they are doing a live plumbing the Death Star this coming Saturday on August 22nd. That's in Australia. That's in Australia. I think it's August 22nd. No, it's on a Thursday Oh my god wrong. So that's going to be a comedy republic if you are interested. What a lovely day. Yeah So that they're always a great time that live those live shows I won't be there, but I am doing a live show with Sam Peterson on Friday, which is for confessions And it's me this coming Friday this coming Friday Georgia love and Celia Piccola, which I'm very excited. She's the host of Australia's Thank god you're here. That's right, and I'm not the host of anything. It's fucking show All right. All right. I'm no need for language

Sorry time goes below if you want to jump to anything Collin's who edits this makes that possible. Here we go. It's trailers Ahoy we're kicking off this Are you ready for some more spum Sony Pictures universe of Marvel movies? I guess this is good They're releasing this because it's gonna when it sinks like a stone then we can do the spum trilogy Morbius Madame Web Craven trailer 2 so what you're saying is the worst possible outcome is this is a good movie that does well. Yeah, for us. Because then we can't do a Caravan of Garbage trilogy on failed Sony villain spin-offs or whatever they're doing. Yeah, it doesn't quite have the ring of like two movies that did poorly

and then one that you know exceeded all expectations. I don't think it will. Why do you feel about this? It's gory, it's Russian, it's Russell Crowe. Looks like it could be a bit of fun. Yes. But he sits in the chair. He does. He sits in the chair, he wears the vest. Yeah.

You know? For some of it. Probably just the air. That's our Craven, he's the best. Oh my god. This is fun. We're getting that chant going in the theatre. That's our Craven, he's the best.

That's our Craven, he's in the chair. That's our Craven, he's the best. That's our Craven, he's the best. That's our Craven, he's the best. That's a graven. He's in the chest. That's a graven. Where's the best? He's the best. I know we're both fans of this person, but Nando V Movies took to Twitter and he said, I fully... So there's a shot where you see in the trailer, it was in the first trailer where you see

the villain's arm turned into a rhino skin. And he says, you know, you know where you call me, the rhino. Because he can turn into a rhino. But Nando V Movies said said I thought this great YouTube channel Check him out. I fully stand by my prediction This was originally gonna be the end of the movie the actual rhino stuff was added in reshoots because there is a lot of rhino In this and I think some sort of scooper did confirm. Yes, clearly that Daniel Richmond said it was the end of the movie per Attest so the the original cut of this movie was just gonna be him

Craven fighting poachers. Yeah, and at the very end of the movie a guy gonna be him craven fighting poachers Yeah, and at the very end of the movie a guy's gonna be like this is what a cool And then he was gonna sort of turn into the Rhino and then credits and then people went how about something? Yeah, but this movie had something in it This is also that would be the ending of the amazing spider-man 2. Yeah teasing the Rhino Yeah, big fight and then not do you think some not. How could you do that twice? How many interns do you think got fired for pointing that out before it got to somebody with some decision making power who went, oh yeah maybe we should change it?

I reckon two. I reckon two people went, oh like the amazing Spider-Man 2, you're out. You don't have to come back tomorrow. Thanks for your help, you don't have to come back tomorrow. And then eventually somebody went, oh yeah. Oh yeah. So how do you feel about this though, in general? It does present better than both Morbius and Madame Web in its trailers.

Is that because it's trying to do less? Maybe. Because look, I think what the- It looks like I pushed a year. The actions looks to be okay. There's some CGI blood happening. It doesn't thrill me, I'm not sure why I'm supposed to care about this character. You know what I mean? I just looked up I went to the Wikipedia page to be like who directed

this and I'd already clicked on who the director was because I've been down this road. He did Triple Frontier, a most violent year, all is lost Robert De Niro. Robert Redford stuck in a boat. Most violent year, Triple Frontier. There's our pal Bobby De Niro. He's done some good stuff. God, this is a good week for ramps. He does some good stuff. The nursery ramps. Completely agree. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, I don't understand why I'm supposed to care about these Spider-Man villains who are not

really villains anymore. Yeah. They're not fighting Spider-Man. They're just fighting another subpar villain. And you'll get them in the costume at the end Maybe yeah, just like Madame Web where she was in the costume and the chair at the end. Look, I don't hate the rhino design I'm glad we're actually isn't great. No, the face isn't great. But it is also how do you do a lot of normal human face? Like he's like a telly tubby. Yeah, he looks like a telly tubby. Let's be real Version looks like a telly tubby. I appreciate that. I appreciate that they haven't gone mech suit version. They've gone... Well, they can't because they did it. They did it already.

Yeah. I am cautiously optimistic. I am confident it's going to be better than the previous two. Yep. I don't know if it's going to be as good as Venom one. Wow. Yeah. So...

It's a big call. Big call, isn't it? So it was a big call. Call isn't it? So it was scheduled for really, it was previously scheduled for the 13th of January, 2023. Then they moved it up and then back. Then I bumped it to October of 2023. And then they pushed it to August of 2024. Okay.

And they bumped it again. That's in December of this year. December, which is then I think, I think it shows they have some faith in it because they think it'll have a summer fun run. Right. But it's going to go up against like some other stuff. I can't remember what, but there's some other stuff happening this summer. There's no Star Wars and there's no Avatar, but I think there's something else happening. There's a Lion King, there's an animated Lord of the Rings thing, but that's an anime. So I don't know whether that will...

Did we get any clarification from last week? We saw the Mufasa Lion King trailer. Is it Mufasa usurping the royal title from Scar or is it the other way around? No, you were right. It is that. Because everybody in the internet has been telling me the other thing. That Scar is the real royal family. Oh wait, is it the other one? No, Scar is the real member of the royal family,

and then they adopt Mufasa and then you. That's what I took from the trailer, but I might have read it wrong. But then I read the synopsis, and the synopsis said the thing you said. Listen, listen, listen. Also, I don't care. Do you care?

No, I don't. I don't know why I'm locked into this. I don't understand why I brought it up again. If somebody could clarify it and be very clear, don't be like, well, I reckon it into this. I don't understand why I brought it up again. I don't somebody if somebody can clarify it and be very clear Don't be like well, I reckon it's this no I need to see. Yeah, I need to see a Disney executive explaining Yeah, absolutely video of that Nice yeah, so that's just having another drink everybody to celebrate. Yeah, all the good things that are happening. Anyway Craven can't wait Can't wait can't wait for Craven.

Yeah. That's a hashtag right there. Yep. We get that wave going. Yeah, that chant we did. So waving for Craven. That's what we're gonna be doing. Yeah, yeah.

I think we should get that going. We should have videos of people just waving. Yeah. Just on their webcams. Say hashtag wave it for Craven. Bringing the queen back from using a deep fake. Have her wave. She's got the most famous wave.

I think so too, yeah. Yeah. Thunderbolts though. Did somebody film this and then held on to it? Yeah I wanted to talk about this one and you hadn't seen it so we had to kind of attempt to track it down and we eventually found a very low quality version. Good enough though. Good enough, yes. Not good enough to distinguish between Ghost and Taskmaster. It's interesting that in years past if somebody were to release a leaked version of a trailer

from Comic-Con or D23 or whatever it was, Marvel or Disney or whatever company would have a high-res version ready to go. The very next day, a lot of the time you'd go, well, I won't waste my time watching this low-res version because the good one will be out in an hour. But this has been weeks and there's no... I think what happened here is, I think because in between... Yeah, so there's a Captain America movie coming out in February. So I think they don't want to confuse people.

Oh, OK, yeah. Because I've confused those about which one's the Red Hulk one and whatever. And I know this stuff. I'm supposed to. And Thunderbolt's asterisk has US agent in it. Yes, that's right. Exactly. A good casting, I think. And I know this stuff. I'm supposed to. And Thunderbolts asterisk has US agent in it. Yes, that's right. A good casting, I think. And a beard. Yeah, so...

And a beard! He does have a beard. So this is for people who... The trailer looks good, by the way. It does look good. Surprisingly, I thought it was very good. So for people who don't know, it's a handful of Marvel's kind of military espionage intelligence heroes slash villains. Oh, yeah, who have all independently unbeknownst to each other been hired to take care of a guy named Bob. Yep. They all end up in the same location and surprised to see that all the others there. And then it's surprise Bob is isn't just a guy he's the century is basically like Superman with Superman with severe mental instability yeah what he is and he's and sometimes he's in Marvel history or something sometimes he is yeah and and you know the sounds very the boys what you're describing nice does a little bit doesn't it yeah um yes okay I'm excited for this um we get it we get some hints of we get we

get to see for example the Sentry's S shield, which he wears on his belt. We get to see all the cast, as you mentioned, both Ghost and Taskmaster get a redesign and they've decided to make them look like each other. There's a sequence where they're both in a room fighting to each other and at one point Ghost is wielding a bow and arrow, which is one of Taskmaster's weapons, I don't understand. If you hadn't have been like, you're going to be confused at this pit I would have gone right past me. Yeah, bring him on. I did watch it very low res Yeah, but I wouldn't have realized that there were there was two of them in there

So they've both got a redesign They've both gotten kind of black costumes which makes sense because they're black ops Yeah types and with white masks, but they look yeah the same. I don't I don't understand why they've done that. Why not keep one of them white and one of them black? I don't know. Great question. Isn't it though? Yes. But anyway, the main reason I wanted to talk about this, it looks exciting.

The main reason I wanted to talk about this is I think they're going to do a big stunt at the end as an attempt to reinvigorate just stuff in generally. So we get of course Julia Louis-Dreyfus is in this as Allegra. Allegra de Fontaine. De Fontaine, yeah. And there's a moment in this trailer where the Thunderbolts team, they all show up in this space and it's like a penthouse, set of penthouse windows in this sort of empty room. And I think that is Avengers Tower.

I think we're finally gonna, they're gonna finally reveal or figure they finally gonna figure out for themselves who bought Avengers Tower. And it's evil. Whatever evil Marvel Universe guys who were supposed to be good but they're evil. It's like the new shield or something. I will say he's also has been pointed out this movie is now called Thunderbolts asterisk. So there has to be a big reveal. I think they're going to have to do some sort of shock and awe reveal. Dark Avengers, right?

People are like, whoa, yes. And I think it is leaning towards that. So I think what's going to happen is they are going to defeat or, you know, recruit the sentry. This is from the end. This is from like right at the end. Yeah. I think Allegra is going to invite them to Avengers tower. She's going to be like, well, is your new digs or you're the Thunderbolts now, blah, blah, blah. And then we're going to

have and then she's going to be like, and here's your new boss. And you know how the Avengers Tower has that like launching platform for the Iron Man suit. I think an Iron Man suit is going to appear like flying through the sky. We're going to be like, this is bloody Iron Man. What's going on? It's going to land. It's either going to be an Iron Patriot suit. Yeah. Or like an Iron Man suit with like a different color scheme and the suit is going to disassemble like it does on the landing pad and then it's going to be Willem Dafoe as Norman Osborn and he's going to be like I'm something of a Thunderbolts myself or whatever and then it's going to be Thunderbolts asterisk Willem Dafoe, a wholly owned subsidiary of Oscorp or something like that.

I think they have to do shock and awe here. I agree you can't call it Thunderbolts asterisks and then not do something or something like that. I think they have to do shock and awe here. I agree, you can't call the Thunderbolts asterisks and then not do something that's like that. Right, and it has to be something that people recognize, like the general, it's gonna go, ah, it's him. It's J.K. Simmons. It's J.K. Simmons, J. Jonah Jameson bought it. It's Tobey Maguire, ah, it's Dr. Doom.

And people are gonna be like, does that make sense because Willem Dafoe was an alternate version of, like he was the parallel universe version of the Green Goblin in Spider-Man No Way Home. Yeah. It doesn't matter. No, I think he's probably happy. He'd be happy to do it. What if it was Tony Stark and they're like, Oh, it's Tony Stark. But it's like, that's not Tony Stark. It's a different Tony Stark. That's Dr. Doom. Oh, it might be. Yeah, it might be. Well, apparently it's been said that the Dr. Doom that's going to be in the movies is going to be from the Fantastic Four universe. Right and he's going to come over as well. He's going to come over, he's going to take a little joyride.

Which suggests that he is going to be the ongoing Doctor Doom. Yeah, I would say so. At least for a few years. At least until they shoot him with a laser. And he goes, this was too much laser, even for me. Even for me this was too much. Anyway, what do you think about that theory? I like it.

I don't know whether it's going to be specifically Willem Dafoe, but yes it will be something like that. It's got to be something that... Because he got shot into another dimension or something. Not that that means he can't come back. Yeah, I think it's going to be this dimensions. Yeah. Oh, I get it.

I think it's going to be this dimensions Norman Osborn, who just hasn't been seen yet. Well, it could be like a Norman Osborn who's not Willem Dafoe. You cast somebody known, and you're like, oh it's fucking someone from The Wire or whatever. Yep. It's Dominic Cooper from, no, he's not from The Wire. Dominic West from The Wire.

Could be Dominic West from The Wire. Yeah, okay. Someone probably more famous. I, yeah. Look, I, I, I. It's James Gandolfini's son. I'm happy to entertain that notion, but I think it has to be somebody that you don't have to explain who it is. Like they can't do the James Rhodes thing where they have to be like, well, it's this, you have to go, ah, it's the guy. There's no words.

Kang! Oh my God, it's Kang! It was right in front of us. He's uncancelled. It's right in front of us the whole time. I'm back and I'm uncancelled. I'm sure people have some great theories on this theory that probably isn't true. But I'd love to hear. Who could the guy be. Who could the guy be?

Maybe he's not even a guy. But there's going to be some twist. Anyway, it can't be like Justin Hammer. It could be, but people would be like, who's that guy from? It's got to be someone in recent memory, you know what I mean? Could be Loki. Loki's going to be in something soon? Secret Wars. Yeah, probably. Also, did you say that there's going to be Eyes on Wak Wakanda the series? They're gonna time travel in it. Oh oh

yeah because they're gonna use old um whatever. Sure. Oh like 1940s Black Panther. Yeah maybe yeah. Cool stuff. I'm just looking up MCU villains that disappeared. Yeah. Could be an X-Men person. I was thinking the other day we should be like a Michael Fassbender. We should do a video on all the... I'm not really into that. Oh come on, you love videos. Could be Glenn Close.

You could be Glenn Close. We should do a video on MCU post-credit sequences that haven't gone anywhere in the last X number of years. Absolutely, I would love to do that. We could do an entire video on all the Eternals post-credit sequences. Oh yeah, oh well let's... Do you want to do that now We can do an entire video on all the Eternals post-credit sequences. Oh yeah. Do you want to do that now? Let's do it now. It is MCU news after all. This is via Variety who says, while Eternals ended with a note of suggesting the characters

returning the sequel, the Chloe Zao directed tentpole had was a box office disappointment with 402 million worldwide. That's not too bad now. Yeah, absolutely. When you compare it to either Marvel's, for example. Well below will blow Marvel standards Marvel is reportedly not developing a sequel at this time I think some of these characters will show up. Yeah, this is not a surprise. I think we knew this That's true. So shock of all shocks Kingo for example might return. Yes, exactly. So see might return That's right. The big man sticking out of the earth will return

He will certainly return Thunderbolts or Captain America's a bird. That's right. One of those two. Alright Mason, let's do this. Okay. Bo De Mayo says come out and spoken about why he was fired. Let's go from writing and show running X-Men 97. Rubbed his hands together and went this will solve everything for good. He said, firstly I'm grateful to have worked on X-Men 97 collaborating with some amazing talented folks. Creating this revival was a dream come true to support and the support fans have shown

is so touching. However, I felt it pressing for me to speak up in the wake of me leaving the show. For people who don't know, he was the executive producer for X-Men 97 and then contributed to the story. Yeah, and season one and two and then before season one came out, it was announced he was fired. It was like right before. Yeah, and people were like, why? And there were a lot of guesses and he had like a non-explicit OnlyFans. Yeah. And people like, was he fine for that?

But they knew about that and blah, blah, blah. But he has continued to tweet and post on social media as the show came out. And I mean, because it did well and he was given kudos for these contributions, etc. I said, above is my X-Men fan and I posted on Instagram for Gay Pride in June. So it's a picture of him dressed as Cyclops They're leased early This is like a cyclops and Marvel sent me a letter notifying me that that stripped me of my season 2 credits due to This post and sadly, this is the lie of the latest in the troubling pattern

I suffered while working on x-men 97 and Blake's also worked on blade and that's the tea Mm-hmm I'll have more to say soon But must take a step back from social media to find a safer place for me to be out proud nerdy. Stay tuned. So in response to these allegations, a Marvel spokesman said that DeMare was fired after an internal investigation said, they said Mr. DeMare was terminated in March of 2024 following an internal investigation. Given the erroneous egregious, egregious, sorry, yeah, glasses, don't need glasses.

Do I need glasses? Try these. Well, these are more for? Being cool. Yeah, for being cool. Is that worse? No, that's worse. Okay, yeah.

Well, they are for distance. Try these. These won't help. No, they won't help at all. Given the egregious nature of the findings, we sever ties with him immediately and he has no further affiliation with Marvel. Egregious is a very strong word. So they didn't say specifically, but then the insnider, Jeff Snyder came out and I think this was a paywall thing, so this came through discussing film.

I did see that, it was like, oh, I've found the truth in it, it was like, you wanna pay some money? Here's another thing as well. A friend over at Weekly Planet posters, who makes, who's on Instagram and Twitter and does fun, very well done posters based on stupid things that we say.

Yeah. He did one for Borderlands, he did one for Boredomlands, and ScreenRant. Yeah, ran an article. ScreenRant ran an article, but here's the thing, I was like, I wonder what they've got to say about this, and I clicked it, and it's like, sign up and pay a dollar for access

to ScreenRant Plus or whatever. What? And I'm like, this isn't it, you didn't even do this. I mean, we didn't even do it. We didn't even do it,, you didn't even do this. I mean, we didn't even do it. We didn't even do it. But you didn't, you're trying to charge people for a thing you didn't make. This is crazy what you've done. I'm not surprised.

So anyway, the Insinider said, Bo DeMeo allegedly sent nude photos of himself in sexually suggestive hero poses to young male staffers working on X-Men 97 saying they could be used as inspiration. He also allegedly groped in a sister multiple times and was emotionally physically abusive to other staffers. These are all allegations at this point. Something has obviously happened and gone down. I'd say there's probably, I'd say, if he was fired for that picture that he sent, the one that he displayed, that could have been the thing where they went, this is the thing we can get him on specifically.

I don't know. I hate this. Yeah, we're not there. We're not there for it. Yeah, but it doesn't seem good for him. No. Again, this is all the information that is out there. We know as much as anybody else, but it certainly doesn't look good.

Of course, people will remember many years ago, James Gunn was fired from Marvel. Yeah, because you know, various parties unearthed some old tweets where he was like being quite edgy and you know, etc. And so on the way to the DCU, yeah, on the face on the face of this, you might be like, well, Marvel's overreacted in the past. So maybe they've overreacted again kind of thing. But maybe it's also like- Like you said, the language that they used in that statement.

It's quite rare that they say egregious, I feel. Absolutely. Or erroneous, which they didn't say. They didn't say that. They've never said it, I don't think. Disney would never admit to anything being erroneous. No. And often, and you know what?

They might be right, but they're not here. Because according to the BBC, everybody reported on this. Disney World is arguing a man cannot sue them over the death of his wife because of two But they're not here because according to the BBC, everybody reported on this, Disney World is arguing a man cannot sue them over the death of his wife because of terms he signed up for in a free trial. I'm not laughing because it's funny Mason. I'm laughing because it's so grim. The Black Mirror-esque absurdity of it.

Because he signed up for a free trial of Disney+. So Jeffrey Piccolo filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Disney and the owner... Why didn't he just shoot a big laser? Yeah. Because his name's Piccolo. Oh yeah, from... Yeah. Is he the green one? He's the green one.

That's what I thought. And the owner's of a restaurant after his wife died in 2023 after a severe allergic reaction from eating at the theme park. However, Disney argues in its terms of use that when Mr Piccolo agreed... which Mr Piccolo agreed to when creating his Disney Plus account in 2019 means that they have to settle out of court. Yeah, because when you sign up for Disney Plus, it's like if you have any issues with Disney, you have to go through arbitration.

This is insane. Yeah. I mean, I'm not shocked that a large corporation tried this. No, not at all. I imagine they're like, throw it out there. That's what happens. And if it works, we set a fun precedent for never being sued again. Yeah. But if it doesn't work, yeah, well, we try. Yeah, what are, who cares? Because they also haven't put a name to this. They're not like Bob Iger said this specifically. It's just like as a corporation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The entertainment company argues it cannot be taken to court because in terms of use, it says users agree to settle any disputes via arbitration, as mentioned. It says that Mr. Piccolo agreed to these terms when he signed up for a one-month free trial. So he didn't even pay for it. Disney adds that Mr. Piccolo accepted these terms on his Disney account. Also apparently he's suing them for excess of $50,000 plus legal costs, which is fuck all. Yeah, because they killed his wife. Yeah, but it does. Yeah, but it does.

I mean, they presumably will lose this or settle it. There's no way. There's no way. This is nothing to them. But they don't want the precedent of people can sue us if they die in our restaurants. So and as I understand it, they asked if the thing they ordered had a particular allergen in it. It was nuts or something like that.

I think she was legendary and nuts. And they I said no it doesn't have those in it And then she did yeah, and then she ate it she died yeah, so that's sad and crooked It is fucking awful and just to just to not be like hey we messed up and yeah Like he'd be like the least you can do yeah Yeah, and I'm sure they they're like well if we do that somebody's neck the next person's gonna be like almost Yeah, if people die in your restaurant you should. My soup was too hot and I'm sure they're like, well, if we do that, somebody's neck, the next person's going to be like, oh, my soup was too hot or whatever. Yeah, if people die in your restaurant, you should... My soup was too hot and I died.

Yeah, well, that McDonald's hot coffee thing became like a joke of like, oh, you could just soo for getting burnt by coffee. Even though it was like lava hot. She was like severely burnt by that and it became this joke of like, why do people soo for bloody anything these days? Yeah, I remember, anything these days. You permanently scarred this woman. Yeah. Well. God. Things are good. I disagree.

Oh yeah. I think most things are bad. My computer was upside down. Oh, okay, right. I think your glasses did something to my eyes, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Also, I think in most cases, any user agreement that's like 10 plus pages long,

mostly not enforceable. Yeah, exactly. Because it's based on the idea of like, well, you're bound by this if a reasonable person would do it. But no reasonable person in the world reads a 52 page user agreement or whatever it is. And then what? And then like go back and go, go well I don't agree with section 37 or whatever. Because like no. Whatever.

Anyway, bad. Yeah. I'm starting to think this Disney corporation's bad news. Well you know you're gonna love this. Let me bring you around. Okay. This is why I have my time to shine hello who has a 67% accuracy on Marvel Studios. Spoilers.

That's a coin flip. Yep. Gets things wrong. That's a bit more than a coin flip. It's a weirdly weighted coin flip. There we go. Hugh Jackman is apparently set to stand as Wolverine after Avengers Secret was he and Ryan Reynolds want to make more Deadpool and Wolverine films together. This could just be a shot in the dark. I feel like I could say this, but it would not surprise me. He seems rejuvenated for the time being.

Yes, absolutely. Talk to him when he's 60 in five years. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yes, absolutely. Talk to him when he's 60 in five years. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it is. Brain is boiled from. Yeah. HGH. Again, it's a shot in the dark. How dare you? I think you mean boiled chicken and rice and broccoli. Yeah. I mean, it's still hard work. Yeah. I'm not saying it's not Mason, but he's juiced up to the fucking gills and God bless God bless him also He would be admitting to a crime. You'd have to come out and be like I did steroids. I took drugs

It's like it's a crime legally. Yeah Yeah, you can't just take I thought it was just the rules of sport. No Mason I think it's like a band is it you can't like you can go to a doctor and get them I'm listening, but you can't do you know do you see what I'm saying? He's not going to a doctor and get them. I'm listening. But you can't. Do you see what I'm saying? Is he not going to a doctor? I don't know. Wow. Cause doctors can't, I assumed, maybe he does, but assuming where you are, you

can't like, this is not a medical reason to do it. I know. But if you can, if you can go to a doctor and they can like write you a prescription for this, there is no way there isn't like a phone book full of doctors who wouldn't do that. It's like when people go, I've got anxiety, I am troubled flying on a plane, can I have drugs? And they go, yes. It is illegal to use steroids without a valid prescription to distribute them. So yeah, you could go to someone and go, can I have steroids? And a shonky doctor could go, yeah.

So yeah, you could. I don't think there are any shonunky doctors in Hollywood. You're absolutely right Yeah, anyway, God bless him. I'm glad he's out there doing it better him than me. Mmm I'm thinking about it. Yeah, I'm thinking about just screwing with my hormone levels for the rest of my life Yeah, you get that big skull Get that big xenomorph hybrid skull from too many, too much, too many HGHs. Oh my God. Anyway, yeah.

Till he's 90, like the joke in- Yeah, but like, I'm sure we've said, you know, this sort of thing is always in flux. I'm sure he's thought about it. I bet, I bet as soon as the, you know, even if he was like, this is my last one forever, you know, I'm at a blast. Thank you for inviting me back, Ryan Reynolds or whatever it is. As soon as they went, oh yeah, we've made a billion dollars. I bet he went, yeah, I could my last one forever. You know, I'm at a blast. Thank you for inviting me back Ryan Reynolds or whatever it is. As soon as they went, oh yeah, we've made a billion dollars. I bet he went, yeah, I could do another one of those.

Also it seems like he really enjoyed doing it and hanging out with Ryan Reynolds. They're mates. Who doesn't want to hang out with their mates? And get paid millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars. That big skull. $50 million. That's right. Yeah.

God, just a couple of big boys and big skulls. Does Ryan Reynolds work out for those movies? He does. Yeah. God, just a couple of big boys and big skulls. Does Ryan Reynolds work out for those movies? He does. Yeah. That's such a brutal thing to say. Does he work out for those movies? Does he even bother? He does. Yeah, he does. But he doesn't have to do the extent of. I would say Ryan Reynolds, I don't know this. He seems as if you could do that naturally. Yeah, no, absolutely. On the back of like- or not at all. Yeah.

15 to 20, 10 to 15 years of training. Do you think he was like, do you think before production started, uh, Hugh Jackman was like, you come into the gym with me, Ryan, we're going to do this. We're going to get, we're going to pump up. We're going to bulk up. And then like Ryan just keeps like canceling on him at the last minute. Like he does it for a couple of weeks and he's like, well I've got a production meeting. Oh yeah. I'll catch up later. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And then, yeah, then like, you know, three months in, it's just huge. Yeah. Getting huge in the huge Jackman. Huge Jacked man. Wow. The first. Yes, you are the first actually.

Yes. Yeah. I'll tell you what, as someone who does exercise and you wouldn't know to look at me, it is, it's fucking hard to put like just, and also I'm 40. So like, it's only getting harder for me. You know, the quantity you have to meet and maintain and like the consistency and there is like a base, like you get to a baseline and you can always kind of get back to that. But getting beyond that is like, it's difficult. See what I love,

poached chicken and broccoli though. That's good isn't it? Legitimately I love them. You know the amount of guys I'm subscribed to are just like here's how you make a meal taste better I never do it, but I'm like I could make you could do it pretend pizza. You could imagine doing it That's almost as good Anyways, let's do this Mason James gun was asked on our threads his social media platform of choice and one that he owns I assume about reshoots on Superman. And he said, because of course he's making new Superman, and he said, I've done a total of one day of reshoots on my past two films combined.

And Ira Dickinson asked, what's your method for not doing a lot of reshoots? I'm curious. And I just found this interesting so I thought I'd throw it out there. He said, I'm the best. That's why I'm here and you're there. This is nothing to me. I'm only would royalty you scum He said one over prepare. I'm talking to you from the bottom of my shoe. You're on the bottom of my shoe That's number two. Yes, I'd also don't start shooting until I've finished a script

My whole team is happy with three higher actors and department heads I know can do their jobs force around myself with people who challenge me and not just yes sir everything. Five, ask myself daily, are there any small imperfections in the scripts or what we're shooting that might end up feeling like huge imperfections when we cut the film together. And number six is number one and two again, whatever they were. That's right. It was the thing about the guy being scum. That's right. Yeah. I know, no, no, no, because he posted before, but he storyboards literally every shot himself. He knows exactly what he's before, but he storyboards literally every shot himself. Yeah, right.

He knows exactly what he's doing, schedules it out. Where's Sean Gunn going to be in this? Where's Sean Gunn going to stand? In every scene. Stand on the X. Stand on the X. Sean Gunn. You've done this before, all right?

Come on, mate, you can do it. Yeah, I find that fascinating. It sounds obvious, but most giant productions do not operate like this. Yeah, this feels like he has just worked backwards from like older film, films where they did this sort of stuff. Yeah. Think about it. Think about it in advance because you can't just fix it in post.

This is just the method they used when they used to shoot on film. They couldn't fix everything with, with visual effects. Absolutely. My goodness. Yeah. Mason, what's that? Just a bit of theater, everybody. Huh? We've got a special guest. And that? Just a bit of theatre everybody. We've got a special guest.

And that you announced by tapping on the table. No, that was him knocking on the door and he's sitting down right now. Wow. Well look, we were going to have one more bit of news, just you and me as best pals. I guess we can. Can you hear this? He's wearing earmuffs. Yeah, that's right. But they are pricking up. His ear muffs are pricking up. Let's introduce him. Oh great.

Now Mason, we've got one more bit of news. And this is an area of news that we're not entirely familiar with. But the person who stumbled into our studios. Completely sober by the way. Stumbling implies that like something's going on. Yes. I'm just wearing rather large shoes. And my feet are slipping out of them at all times.

We've got Alexis. A little little tribute to Mr Charlie Chaplin. One of the kings of cinema. Who probably did a big shoe thing at some point. Of course, he's famous for those big old flipper shoes. Now we've got Alexi Toleopoulos who people might know from many projects. Just known around the interwebs. The last video store podcast. Incredible.

Incredible podcast. Thank you so much guys. Which we'll be guesting on soon. Absolutely. Finding Drago, one of, I think, the greatest podcasts of all time. And a lot of people have said that. It's not just me. Wow. To be awarded such praise from one of the princes of podcasting, my lord. I feel humbled, but I also feel powerful. So I feel neutral, I guess.

So I'm somewhere between humble and really egotistical by that. Yeah, normal. He's a Mr. Movies for every day of the week, not just Sunday. Oh my god. I'll tell you that much. Alexi, welcome to the show. Thank you so much, my friends. Thank you for having me here.

I just also want to quickly mention Finding Yeezus, of course, which is kind of like a... Well, there's one in between. There's one in between Finding Desperado. Yeah, but that's my favorite, but you know. Yeah, it's a good one. They're all good. But I mean, Finding Yeezus, they filmed it so, you know, you can say it you can actually see what I look like

He was a real face reveal moment for me. You got to do the matrix 362 degree camera situation that was my dream come true. That was my dream come true That was a significant amount of budget to about five seconds worth of film That was a significant amount of budget to about five seconds worth of film. So before we talk about Alien Romulus, we just want to talk about this via THR that James Wan, who people would know from Aquaman and Aquaman 2, and probably that's it. Is that right? Saw. Oh yeah.

Fast and furious sequel. Look at this guy go. Right? Is he Fast 7? No, Fast 8. He did the one where Paul Walker died. Oh, Fast 7. Yeah. Yeah, fast eight. He did the one where Paul Walker died. Oh, fast seven. Yeah.

Yeah, fast seven. He fixed that one. The see you again one. He did the one where the woman had a person on the back of her head. Oh, that. Spoilers. Oh yeah. Well, I won't say the movie then.

Yeah. Yeah, now that we know the twist of the film, I won't say the film. Just go to your local video store and ask for the one where the woman's got a thing in the man in the back of her head. But anyway he's in early talks to Helm Creature from the Black Lagoon. Now of course the Dark Universe you're probably familiar with. Oh how can I not forget it. They tried to kick it off. Yes of course with the mummy with Tom Cruise. That's right. Why was it Roberto Orsi or was it the other Star Trek writer? That's a great question. Kurtzman. Kurtzman, yeah. I think it's a Kurtzman.

Alex Kurtzman. Wow, there you go. I'm known for my great questions and that's just one of the many I have. So what, but you're a fan of the original, right? Yeah, I love the Universal Monsters. Like that is my cinematic universe of choice and I'm still heartbroken Dark Universe didn't come together so well. Even though, so if it was dreadfulful would you have been okay with that?

Just more than okay. I would have been absolutely rolling in it. I would that would be my dream scenario. They go we giving it a shot we're gonna make them really horrible really bad and they were on great track for that. I completely agree. They should have kept on going. Johnny Depp was the invisible man. Javier Bardem was Frankenstein's monster. Frankenstein? Yeah, so Rusty Crow. Rusty Crow was Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Oh yeah, J. Rowl. Two paychecks. The J. Rowls.

But of course, this kicked back off again sort of, not as a universe, but they did The Invisible Man. Yeah, by Lee Whannell. Lee Whannell, of course, they started up, started together on Saw. Were you a fan of that one? I thought that was excellent I thought that was such a great thriller, and I thought it like utilized Those kind of classic monster tropes that we seen the visible man Which is a lot funnier than people know the original invisible man. Yeah, but then I think the update was really great I think the way that played with tension was fantastic Elizabeth Moss like amazing incredible. Yeah, like a performance

I thought those greats are really unsettling like even though it was this is kind of a spoiler But we have talks about it like it was technology to make the man invisible the invisible man It was upsetting like it was an upsetting thing to look at. Yeah Exactly, yeah That's a movie that I really enjoyed when it came out and I haven't seen it again since because I just can't bring myself because it's got like it's like emotionally it's quite I mean, he's barely in it. So it's fine.

Oh, that's true. Yeah. But also because like it is so it's so upsetting and so tension filled that we're going to talk about later about maybe some stuff we've we've seen or gonna see. And I saw another movie this week that, again, I really... You're not talking about Alien Romulus, are you? No, I'm going to see that. So I'm going to have to see that so many times for the rest of my life.

But I saw a movie this week that I really, really enjoyed, but I don't think I'm going to be able to watch it for a significant amount of time. It's a lot. It's a creeper. Yeah, it's a creeper. Yeah So yeah, so do would you rather say before we move on would you rather see see these as like individual projects? Do you want to see them all team up together and fight the wolf man's brother or something? I think I would rather them be individual projects and then at a certain point I'm like hang on a sec

They're connecting these all together. Yeah, like perhaps they go on to a web browser or a desktop computer, they go, hang on, what are all these icons? Let's click them. Hang on. He's a wolf man icon and I'm seeing a little CCD footage of a guy turning into a wolf in a supermarket or something. But I think the Creature of a Black Lagoon is like my, I think it is one of the very best of that kind of like second phase of

Universal Classic Monsters. I think that with that film in particular, it's direct by Jack Arnold who is a real like whiz with incorporating special effects and stuff. And he also did the Incredible Shrinking Man, which is just one of those ones that really holds up like early sci-fi film. It really holds up as far as effects and excitement go I think creature on the black lagoon but the way I associate that film is it's got a bit of an adventure storyline like it's kind of like the African Queen they're going up the Amazon or they're going up this river and they're kind of exploring not unlike anaconda I was gonna say it

sounds like anaconda I like anaconda. It's quite like anaconda, except there's a fish guy instead of a big snake. So do you think maybe somebody's mother could be researching creatures from the Black Lagoon in the Amazon, like maybe before she died? Before she died? And then somebody gets infected with some blood of the creature from the Black Lagoon

and becomes a fish from the Black Lagoon. That would be very exciting, very exciting. But those ones are like, I associate those with like, this like underwater photography. Like they're really beautiful. I think that film is quite beautiful. Did they fake a lot of it or was it mostly done for real? No, it's quite real.

It's quite real. Quite real, I should see this. But it's also in 3D. Like they do rep screenings of it in 3D and it's quite spectacular to see in three dimensions. It makes you feel like you're swimming with creatures. In black and white. Of course, in black and white.

You go, hang on a sec, is something wrong with my eyes? No, I'm seeing a black and white movie, but three dimensional. So now what you've done here, Alexi, is you've really given us a sense of the scope and the scale of that original movie, and the history of it, and how it was pioneering in a lot of ways. So we're really going to be let down by whatever this is. movie and like the history of it and how it was pioneering in a lot of ways. So like we're really gonna be let down by whatever this is.

I think James Wan is, he's a fascinating horror guy because I think he has an incredible technical skill and prowess like yet to be named movie where someone has a head on the back of their head that has a different personality that's quite evil. I think though that film in particular, and I will not name it, you see like such a like high low frequency of like what his taste is. Like I think that he either has the best taste in the world or the worst taste in the world and there's no middle between and he's executing both at the same time And I just think that I'm always down for whatever he's doing because I find it so camp and I have not seen Aquaman 2 But I've loved every other movie he's done including Aquaman 1. At the end Patrick Wilson puts a cockroach in a burger and eats it

well I guess I'm in. I don't know. Well, I wish you put this in the movie This guy's crazy. He's up for anything, this guy. Now this week of course. Based on the New York Times bestselling novel, The Supremes at Earl's All You Can Eat follows lifelong best friends Odette, Barbara Jean and Clarice, known as the Supremes, whose unbreakable bond of sisterhood

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Fede Alvarez's latest horror movie. He, of course, did the first Don't Breathe. He, of course, did the Evil Dead remake from 2013. Not Evil Dead Rise, the other one. That's right. Exactly. Not the one where it's in a building. Both of those I thoroughly enjoyed.

We can talk about what you guys think, but we don't have time just right now. On a budget of $80 million, it's going to make about about 40 million plus in its US opening, which will make it the second highest debut for an alien film other than Prometheus when you don't adjust for inflation. Prometheus did like 80 million. All those provisos. It's good. But in today's money, that's a freaking billion buckaroos. Absolutely. Also, this like prey was originally going to be for Hulu, but Disney went, no,

we're not really doing that anymore. So, um, so yeah. And anyways, before Mason tells us what the story was, how does everybody feel that Feday Alvarez as a director? I think he's great. Like I, I think that he is not unlike James Wan, someone who had mentioned earlier, I think that he is a really good like craftsman with horror and great at set pieces. And I think also when you think about the Evil Dead remake, I think he's really good at playing in

a pre-established sandbox of what he can do, what kind of show pieces he can take from pre-existing stuff. So when I heard that he was doing Alien Romulus, I would say there was a tingle in my spine somewhere. And was the tingle maybe diminished slightly because he's making an Alien movie for Disney? Oh, I think the tingle, I forgot the tingle was happening. I'll be honest, I forgot this movie existed until about two weeks ago. Oh wow, this is coming out. And so I was tingle free and then the tingle re-emerged. And I was like, okay,

I'm not thinking about the big old mouse. Now in him like working in other sandboxes like in Evil Dead and this, because I'm not entirely sure that all of the things that he brings back from the sandbox should be in the sandbox. And I know Mason, you have a similar opinion. Is that, without getting into spoilers, we'll do spoilers in a bit. Do you feel similarly or are you okay with the callbacks? If I'm detecting what you're hinting at, I'm a Prometheus lover. Oh no! Is that what you're saying?

No, that's not at all. All that stuff works for me. Opinions on the internet can be divided any which way at this point. There are people, you know, that people are re-emerging as big fans of Prometheus and Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection and some people are saying that... It's all in here by the way. It's all there. Everything's present.

People are saying everything's in here and it's revitalizing the franchise and some people are saying it's a horrible soup. Wow. There's really one element. There are soup-like qualities to this film. Oh yeah, you'll see a soup. Oh, it's soupy. Anyway, Mason, what do you think the story was? Oh, right.

So remember Aliens. Yeah. And remember Ali... Wait, remember Aliens. Yeah. It's in between those two. Yes. But not in the order you're thinking.

Aliens. Then Aliens. Then Aliens Romulus. Then Aliens. Yeah. So, in the middle there. Yes. And it's set on a planet, there's a bunch of... Is it a good planet or does it suck?

It sucks. It's the Aliens universe, of course it sucks. It's an awful planet where you never see the sun, everybody's sad, everyone's a minor... That was my favorite early data where they go planet criminal on, and then here are some facts about its population and Days of daylight zero. I was like they should have had a few more things I reckon I tell you like okay salinity levels of the water. That's what I like I don't know everything about this world days of darkness all

They should have done days of days of days of daylight 0 point five and there's just one day everybody goes to the beach That's everybody really treats itself. What I thought was fascinating about that world is that it does get sun Just on just not on the side where everybody is working. So you just kind of live in darkness Yeah, consider a big fan aside Absolutely. Anyway, there's young lady in a brain. Yep. She's sad because she's on the sad planet and her parents have died. I thought they were saying Ray at first. Did they just name her after the Star Wars character? I thought Ray Gramano. They're like, okay, we're big Gramano heads over here.

Her parents have died so she's sad. She lives on this planet that sucks so she's sad. She's doing mining. All her friends suck So she's sad about that as well But she has a she has a best friend and brother in the form of a robot. Mm-hmm He's a he's a special boy by David Johnson. Very good. Yeah, but but her friends who suck they're like hey, listen We could get off this planet. All we have to do is a little space station. It's floating above us right now It's coming in a range we get up there We're gonna steal some bits and pieces from it and then we can out after our spaceship We can get the heck out off this planet. You can get them freezer chambers Now they're fairly confident there was going to be no alien or aliens or Prometheus is up there because I never even heard of these

Freak I didn't know I didn't those classified classified items the little scrubs digging out the coals from strange rocks will not know about this stuff That's right. So you're a Prometheus fan. Oh, you would have been over the moon at certain points Oh absolutely over the moon and all the stars at certain points this bill Yeah, I really any Prometheus connective tissue when I kept on hearing the words Prometheus being said out loud I kept seeing the pale white skin being hinted at off their being said out loud, when I kept seeing the pale white skin being hinted at off their engineers and such, I was absolutely rolling it. You know, it's not often that Malian films get taken notice of in the public.

We recently rewatched it for a movie commentary. I love the premise of it. Me too. And I love the cast. I love how it looks. I just think it's kind of written kind of shittily in terms of like the people in it and their actions. Yes. Like and it's kind of something that I want to love it but it's just like there's just that element of it I can't quite get past and that carries over

into covenant which I think I enjoy more. I've only seen covenant once but I also I kind of bounce off that one a little bit. I think I'm exactly with you with Prometheus, where I'm like, this is the greatest premise. I'm obsessed with that kind of ancient aliens type stuff and origins of man. I think that's- Chariots of the Gods. All that shit, Chariots of the Gods,

I think is so interesting, especially like, if it's connecting it to this is the origin of mankind. And guess what? It's fantastical science fiction. I go, great, thank goodness. I love that stuff. And I think that Prometheus, because of that, I will just love it blindly. Like I just go, I will accept everything that happens in this movie. I also don't like how they don't really explain the stuff in the movie, what's going on. And

then in the interviews, they're like, oh yeah, they're mad because they sent Jesus. And it's like, well, you didn't mention that at all. And look, you don't have to put everything in a movie, but just like an idea of, you know, if there's certain themes and concepts that you wanted to convey, maybe have some of them. Could the engineer point to a picture of Jesus, for example, above a mantelpiece? And go, this one's for you, brother. You're my literal brother. Actually, we went to school together and everything. That would be cool.

And of course Prometheus does have the excellent scene when Naomi Rapace performs surgery on herself. Which I think is... And I think Fede Alvarez, when he was promoting this, said, Oh, we're gonna put in something like that. Yeah. We're gonna put in something that you are not... And I think the cast as well were like, We couldn't watch this on the monitors because it's too gross. I mean, we'll talk about that later. But... the cast as well were like, we couldn't watch this on the monitors because it's too gross. We'll talk about that later. Yes, yes, yes.

But I'm getting the, I suspect that you guys enjoyed this movie like I did. I did enjoy it. Yeah. And your suspicions are correct on my side as well. I wouldn't say like Alien and Aliens are obviously, you know, for me and many others are like the high benchmark. I think it's... For others it's Alien vs Predator, Aquiam.

Yeah. Oh, by the way, 20 year anniversary of alien versus predator Wow came out on August 13th 20 years ago. Oh my gosh, you know that is how old yet I actually do feel like you mean that I do feel old that was a we didn't get you in here to make you feel old Just so you know, okay I bet unfortunately our Warden of the earth feeling older every day But I that was how I accessed Alien for the first time was I rented Alien from the video store and I was like, this is pretty boring and

not as fun as the movie I watched last night, which was Alien vs Predator. I thought it was just wicked. Yeah, I mean sure, having never seen those concepts and then you're exposed to that. Yeah, it's a lot of cool stuff if you've never seen it before. Really cool. But you know, it's kind of of cool stuff if you've ever seen it before. Really cool. But you know, it's kind of strange, my opinion has changed. Now I do think Alien is better than Alien vs Predator. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, not everybody thinks that. You might get a bit of pushback.

Some people like Alien vs Predator or Aquium, where it's Alien vs Predator but it's in the suburbs, alright? Some people like it, All right. All right, guys. Yeah, I think for me, it doesn't come all the way together. I think there are some lies, some callbacks, which I think some of which will talk one major one, which we'll talk about in spoilers, which is an interesting execution for. Who is that for? Great question. I feel like if you've paid for the ticket. You're in. And you're in. I don't think you need,

is a group of people going into the theatre to be like, yes, that's from aliens. Yeah. That's a line from aliens. Oh, that line. I meant like a person that shows up. Oh, sure. Yeah. There is that.

Okay. They do do the line, get away from her. You bitch. And it's like, they should have updated it with the C word, but I think even get a you Karen It's interesting that we're talking about different things like yeah that upset us but with that line though I think even the get away from her and then there's a pause. Yeah, I think that's enough Yeah, you don't really need to take it further. But then of course if you watch these like chronologically Ripley stole it from this movie You know, I read the case files.

I know the best way to freak one of those aliens out. I think all in all, the aesthetic in this is, of their home world, where it starts, is awful in the best kind of way. I love the hints towards this universe and how it's just this soul crushing capitalist nightmare that everybody lives under. Without like, you don't really need to see too much of it. It is hints that in the other movies, but I love all of that. I like the aesthetic is clearly a mix of alien and aliens like room to room and even like

you can you pick up bits and pieces. Huge rooms full of like illuminated switches. Yeah, like you want to make a phone call, you got to go in the big, the big booth of yeah, switches to call mother, you know, absolutely. Yeah, bringing back all that like retro technology and that I think that all that's really good. And of course, very Alvarez has talked about at length how, you know, most of the stuff in this not all, but it's one part in particular couldn't be but it's it's practical, all the islands are practical, the facehug is practical. And he said that the hardest part of that is Like you have to like it's easy enough to build something. What's easy anyone can build anything

Of course, but then to like make it takes his time and Legos But then to make it look good on camera is another thing, you know, yeah, that's a whole other skill But I think some of the stuff that they did do really well, which was new, was like the facehuggers themselves are a real individual threat. Like a swarm almost of them. I love those elements. Yeah, I think I'm right there with you. The aesthetic is like such a strong point for me. And I think as well getting into the film, I think that premise access point for me. But I'm also like so intellectually fascinated by sequels. So I think whenever I go, wow, I see what they're doing here, I just automatically like something.

So I think for me that access point of going, okay, we want to make a younger cast almost like a teen horror slash young vibe. I think the way of accessing that through the worldbuilding was just spot on for me of going where following these orphans of capitalism, these people that have been stranded on this world because their parents were forced into like these, you know, celestial coal mines or whatever. I found that to be so spot on and to be just like a great little sense of worldbuilding to thrust you in there and to kind of align you with the characters whether you find them likeable or not. I think it's just it works in that way that teen slasher films do

where you kind of like some characters, you kind of hate others, but either way you kind of flop between going like, I can't wait to see this guy get face hugged to death, or I can't wait to see this person triumph. Iged to death. I can't wait to see this person triumph. I think it all sits in that aesthetic world as well. I'm just going like, okay, we understand the shittiness of their life. Yeah, I think there is a temptation

and some of it definitely does flow over that you just make aliens again. You know, I mean, you see it in a lot of the video games, not all, there's a bit of alien isolation in this as well if anyone's ever played it. And I think the fact that they didn't exclusively go, let's just do fucking aliens again. That's the one people like it's the action one and there is that in it There's bit there's bits of it, but it's not exclusively that yeah, I like again like you said yeah, it's this young cast Kayleigh Spainy Spainy, so yeah, who was in um was gene early this

And Priscilla yeah Yeah, I have also not seen it was in, was June earlier this year. Civil War. Civil War. And Priscilla, huge year for this young actor. Oh yeah, yeah. I've got to watch that. Yeah, I have also not seen it. Oh, can you see the other one? The Bazelon one? I love Civil War. Oh, I saw Elvis, yes. I love that.

And you love Civil War as a concept. I love Civil War and I can't wait to see Baz's take on it in any form. Yeah, I mean, speaking of the young cast, I think people are going to unfavorably compare them to previous cast because we've had, especially in Alien and Aliens, we have Alien Resurrection and all of them, honestly. Just all the various kind of character actor dirtbags we've had over the last several decades. I have seen people go, oh yeah, well they're young and cool and beautiful. So I don't care. But I think that's, we've had so long to appreciate the crew of the previous ones. And as

you said, Alexi, you know, they're young and orphaned. Yeah. You know. I think also, and I saw an interview with Fede Alvarez where he talked about that original alien. If you just look at that in isolation, there's not actually- Requeam. Sure. There's not actually-

Colonial Marines. Yes. They don't, there's not a lot really to them. And I don't mean, like you don't find out a lot about them personally. Like you get an idea, like a sense of them as a person, but you don't know who their families are or what their hopes and dreams are. It's just like, all right, we're doing this. Fuck. Okay. Like there's a moment in this where one of the characters, who I didn't particularly

like, I found him annoying and aggressive. And British? And British. The worst combo. But like there's a moment where they launch the ship and he takes the moment of like the gravity well to like smoke a joint really fast. And I'm like, that's fun. That's kind of, you know, okay, that's a little quirk of his life. And he's just kind of, you know, he's he's he's drugs. He loves drugs. He does aliens.

Yeah, yeah. That's the good stuff. Yeah. We should probably do some spoilers. But before we do, I thought everybody's saying this, but David Johnson, who plays the new Android, he's got Andy. Yeah, he does. It's I was going to say it almost.

It is. He's doing dual roles basically without getting into spoilers. Incredible. I always find the Androids like super fascinating and just not to be like, I don't know, he's like Bishop again or whatever. There's something very unique about most of the Androids in each

of the moves. Well, well, which I think you put your foot in it there. I know, I know, I know. But like, Ash is like, Bishop is different than Ash. And David is different from David. Exactly. Second David, whose name might not be David.

Second David. Oh, they're all David to me. But you know, I'm Robophobic. They all the same to me. But I thought he had a really, it was a really unique twist. Like not only as like a performance, but also as a character I quite liked. I guess one of the things I can talk about, which I didn't love is things grow too fast. Like a thing comes out and then it's, it's grown up, you know, but that's a minor complaint.

You think they should say have a little child card three weeks later. Exactly. You say that because I think there are, there are elements to this movie where clearly they've had a meeting and they've gone Yeah, okay people are gonna say how can how can how can Kelly Spani? Shoot at an alien with a rifle because she's just a little girl and she would know how to do that So they're like, okay, what if there's a device? Yeah, what if there's a device you bolt onto the rifle and blah blah blah I thought that was interesting. They didn't go. Yeah, the the alien eats rats The alien eats rats and it gets mass and then it finds a way to get big.

They didn't find a problem and I think that's because this movie isn't really about, I think they were told not to expand the lore in a real sense. They were like Prometheus covenant, there's too much overarching cosmic lore. You can't do any of that. You can't explain why any of the alien stuff. I mean you can't do any of that. You can't you can't explain away any of the alien stuff. Yeah, there is I mean, there is you can connect to previous movies. They cannot find a crucifix was an engineer. Exactly. I think they're just like, this has to be more or less standalone. We don't need to. Yeah, we're not going to reinvent the wheel here. We're just going to make we're just going to make sure the nerds on the internet can't poke holes in. But we will whether you could whether that person can shoot it. Yeah cuz it coming out. Yeah, but I agree with you

I think that's a for me the most part strength of this film going like here is a lot of accepted law What can we speak to and envelop into our world building rather than I? Building it into plot points too much. Yes, but I yeah, I think that's kind of where I landed in that area. Yeah, fair enough. I would also agree with you. I think that David Johnson performance, it's incredible. I think it's like one of the best sci-fi performances I've seen in a while.

And I think it's the most inventive thing this film does with how it plays with, you know, so like that really, for me, it's like the most tired theme in all of science fiction, which is like what is it to be human? Because it's in everything like since Frankenstein, it's always there until, but then there's a few new films like I'd say this

and After Yang, a film, a sci-fi film. Oh yeah, loved After Yang. Loved that movie. Really great. And I think they're really good at utilizing that thematic and finding a new way to access it. Like in After Yang, it's like, not just like what is it to be human. It's like, what is it to be Chinese? Like it's so specific the way it's trying to do.

Like how does your sense of self as an android relate to ethnicity and culture? I found that fascinating. And death and... Exactly. It's like the mortality aspect of it. And I think here it's like, how does... It's not just like, what is it to be human? It's like, how does who you are relate you to the people around you? And I think the way that it did that with a battle on like a social level

and a sense of self and a sense of purpose, I found it quite fascinating. And through this new prism of seeing this android go through a really quick change and still capture the feelings of both sides of this character of one being a lower status character to them being switched to high status really immediately. I just thought it was the most exciting thing on this entire film. And this film has aliens flying through space. He switched the gravity off. I know I said, you said after Yang, I was thinking of Mithraek and I got my

Android's computer confused. When you started talking about death and being Chinese, I'm like, no, I'm thinking about the girl who did Cartwheel. She has a little dance. That's right. Now that's a Chinese, I'm like, no, I'm thinking about the girl who did Cartwheel. She has a little dance. That's right. Now that's a team-up I'm dying to see. So we give a rating here. We either give Best Movie Ever or Worst Movie Ever before we do spoilers.

I'm going to say Best Movie Ever. It also doesn't literally mean Best Movie Ever. I've listened to this program before. I'm not just a friend. I'm a fan. I'm going to say Best Movie Ever also. I think, you know, it was, I think it was a friend, I'm a fan. I'm going to say best movie ever also. I think it was a very decent standalone. I thought it was suitably tense. I thought the action was very good.

I thought there was some sort of creative way. It's gross. It is gross. It's slippery and gross. I think it could have been grosser. Yeah. It's one of the more Yannick films of the Alien franchise and that's a Yannick franchise. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, I thought there was some kind of creative action sequences and you know so it's pretty pretty good. I didn't feel I wasted my time at the movies you know. Yeah of course I'm not time wasted either I'm also seeing best movie ever. Excellent. And you can put that on the poster dude if you really want to. I do actually and I will. So spoilers from here on out. God what if if somebody just, they just mined our podcast for like DVD covers or whatever? Like every middling movie we've said, yes, I guess this is the best movie ever. Just Sony re-releases all their movies. We've never given any of their movies a best movie ever.

Alexi, Alexi, how do you, your best movie ever, yes? Yeah, my best movie ever. I'm locking in best movie ever. That's true. Alexi, Alexi, how do you, your best movie ever, yes? Yeah, my best movie ever. I'm locking in best movie ever. So Ian Holm is back, which I found absolutely fascinating, but I fucking hated it. So for people who don't know in Alien 1, the first Alien, he plays Ashley, one of the crew who turns out to be an android. We're surprised by that. Milky fella. That's right.

So milk in, milk out. You know what I mean? And in this he plays Rook. Well, there is an android called Rook. Half an android. I thought it was just going to be a little, because you see him kind of slumped over. And I'm like, oh that looks like Ash. They're probably just going to, that'll be it.

It'll be like a little call back. But I was forewarned. Oh you knew. Well I didn't know specifically, but someone on Twitter said, this movie has committed the sin of resurrecting a character. And I'm like, okay, well, it's either gonna be Ian Holm or Bill Paxton. Yeah, I thought it would be Yaffert Cotto. Oh yeah, yeah.

I thought it would be like they just bring him in all CGI. Like, let's fly out of here, baby. But it's his character from Live and Let Die. Yeah, bring in that balloon. It's already made. Now that's exciting. Yeah, we've got it. We character from Living Land. Yeah, bringing that balloon. It's already made. That's exciting. Yeah, we've got it. We've got the deflated Jaffa. We brought him back. Seal the doors.

We've got the Jaffa. We lost the helium hissed out of it years ago, but he's ready to come back. So I've just got a bit of information about how they did this, and I think that kind of informs how we've got to talk about this. First, they prayed to Satan. Yeah, and's right. And it worked! So his name's Rook.

So he's technically a different android but apparently has the same consciousness because Mother connects them all, although all these androids are connected. So it is Ash, essentially. So apparently this is by EW. The whole thing started, this is with Fede Alvarez. When Uncle Fester fought? Very good. Yes.

And also calling the estate, the home estate and talking with his widow. She felt that Ian was given the cold shoulder by Hollywood in the last years of his life, that he would have loved to be part of more projects after The Hobbit, but he wasn't. So she was through with the idea of having him back. And look, I think that's great that they did that obviously. I mean, just because I didn't enjoy the execution of it. I mean, if his family is happy with it, then who am I to say? The standard here is, did they ask the family?

That's the only hurdle they have to cross here is, or did they just go, no, we own his likeness. Let's go for it. We own Christopher Reeve's license. Let's like likeness. Let's chuck him in. Absolutely. Yeah. So as soon as they finished the the rough version the first thing they did was call the family to make sure they were the first Ones to see it. It was very emotional. Hey check this out

They lost his waving don't look below his waist don't look below his waist They lost him not too long ago And I lost my dad to around the same time so I could relate to their pain and also the excitement to see him back In the movie. I'm super proud of how we did it and how we worked with them I can't wait for the fans to lose their minds at seeing one of their favorite faces from the original I don't understand I guess I don't entirely have a problem with bringing him back But I don't know why they didn't do like a busted like Bishop puppet like they did for three

Yeah, I think the idea because apparently they did David Betts. Sorry Daniel Betts did the three. I think the idea, because apparently they did, oh, David Betts, sorry, Daniel Betts did the voice. Yeah, so that was what I wondered about. Yeah, but it's not AI. It's very, it's pretty accurate. It's really good. I thought it was very good AI. That's what I assumed. And the creation of Rook, this is all we know at the moment, is a combination of an animatronic built to resemble Holm and actor Daniel Betts performing the lines. It's basically a deep fake on a puppet, it says. Yeah. And you can see that. There's something about the chin that's quite off, you know?

For me, it depended, it was shot to shot. When he first appeared, I'm like, this is not convincing, but towards the end, either I settled into it or maybe they chose, like, they were like, let's work harder on it for the later scenes because that's where he needs to really a motor He needs to yeah, you know, they're really interacting with this character the most so let's mmm try harder at the end I don't know. Yeah, I mean

Thematically worse because there's some of this movies about like the depravities of capitalism and I say okay There's got some meta textuality going on. Yeah. Yeah, but I'd also for me, you know I'm kind of with you guys where I go was I deeply offended by this? Not quite but I also don't I never thought oh we had to be this character had to be in home I had to be that I just get Martin Freeman in and go him up I don't think yeah, I don't think it was necessary if he's alive Yeah, and even if they did all of this without him and he was alive, I would feel differently about it again.

But again, I'm not his family, so they were happy for it. Also, you could use any Android. There's presumably more than three of these dudes, right? Exactly. They should have brought an Android from a different world in. Android 18 from Dragon Ball Z. If there was a fully animated character in there, that would be great. Roger Rabbit style would go in. Bender from Fut Ball Z. They just put a fully animated character in there. That would be great. Like Roger Rabbit style would go in.

Bender from Futurama. Wow. They own them all. So yeah, I don't know man. Get away from my shiny metal ass. He could have saved me. Now you're reinventing the lines. That's what they need to do. I don't know. It was... I think I got't know it was I

Do like I think I got used to it as it went on but I could see he's in it a lot Yeah, yeah, it's not like a it's not like a he I guess my assumption going in it was to be a character They'd he'd or when he was introduced I assumed it would be they'd lift his head and it'd be like look out there's gonna be aliens or whatever and then he shorts Out and that's the end. Yeah, he's mo. He's in all of this movie. He's like a- he's a villain basically. I do wish it had been kind of a little bit more creative in the way that they tackled it like if it were you get one moment where it's that full like you know Grammoth Tarkin moment because I- but then if they just go okay we're only going to hear his voice from now on we're only gonna see him on a computer screen That's something I don't know. I think just there's a more tasteful way to have done what they had decided Yeah, I think the the version where he's you know for the a lot of the third act

He's like on it. It's just his face on a screen and like the scanlines kind of Lines kind of cover up the flaws in the in the deep fake But I overall I I mean if I read an Aliens comic book and it had a you know a version of Ian Holmer's ash in it I'd be like that's you know that's a fun little nod kind of thing is it the fact that it's that it's a little bit off-putting which makes it as upsetting as it is I might be because the chin I don't know how to say I know what exactly what you're talking about

Yeah, I don't know man, I just don't know anyway, so we're not built to be grappling with this kind of We said it was the best movie ever what more do you want? It's interesting because he also he comes back in alien isolation when he was alive He doesn't voice it but he gave permission to use his likeness. So Ash is in that game So I don't know man. I like Marlon Brando the Godfather video games Exactly and Marlon Brando and Superman returns like Al Pacino in the Scarface video game He didn't die at the end of Scarface, but he's actually back. He's got to rebuild his empire He's actually stopping him from being in the Godfather video game We'll have to create a whole new Michael Corleone character. Yeah

He's saying Al Pacino's not oh, I think he's one of the most beautiful men that I live 3d mock of a new guy they did a good job And and also the Godfather video game got turned into the video game flashback. Do we talk about this? I think we did oh we have before yeah the video game got turned into the video game flashback. Do we talk about this? I think we did. Oh, we have before. Yeah. Do you ever play the video game flashback? No. What is this? There was a video game back in the 16-bit era called flashback. It was like this platform

action game. And it was kind of the future and it was kind of a little bit Blade Runner, a little bit Running Man, a little bit all like a combination of stuff. But it started out as a Godfather. The company that made it started out as a godfather license. Was it gonna be a side-scrolling shooting game? Yeah, it's sort of Yeah, but it was fathervania. Yeah Basically, they were like they gave it to this French company called Delphine software and they went to they went away and they came back And they said okay. What do you got for us and Delphine was like, okay. What if it's the godfather, it's the mafia, what if it's about a guy running from the mafia? And they went, it's pretty good. And then they were like, what if he had no memory? So he didn't know why, so he's got to figure out why he's running from the mafia. And they went, oh,

that's pretty good. And then they went, what if it was the future and it's in space? And they went, you've gone too far. They already made it. So they were like, yeah. Oh, that's fascinating. I'm actually blown away by this. But then they did make it like a side scroller was bad. Oh, okay, good. That's great. Oh, just quickly on the Ash head, I think it's really interesting that in the original A-Lead, it's not quite perfect.

Like it is this rubber puppet that they kind of got wrong and then they just had to go with it. And this one is also not perfect and upsetting, but it's in completely different eras of technology. And they both don't quite nail it, but for completely different reasons. I love that. Maybe I like it now. Yeah, maybe we all like it.

At least it's better than Christopher Reeve or that Nicolas Cage cameo. Where it's like, I didn't film this. I don't understand what this is. That looks quite horrifying. That's so, I didn't feel as mortified as that, but it's just like, yeah, just I don't know.

But hearing the family liked it, I'm like, well, who am I? I'm some scrub. I can't. My opinion matters less than he's a child. Don't talk about yourself like that. OK, I'm superior to them in every

way. Also, I bet they got more money for that. And he got it his entire like, just. Almost certainly. Yeah. Bring him back in the Time Bandits TV show as well. That's what's going to happen next. He's got a whole new second act.

It's great. I also think it's fascinating that- Bring him back as his character from Big Night. Oh yeah. The restaurateur from the other side of the city. Anyway, he's back. So it's like an $80 million movie. It's all practical sets and practical, you know, puppetry and aliens and men in suits and whatever.

And then they're just like, there's a CGI man in the middle. Oh, yeah, we haven't even talked about that. That is fascinating. Oh, that, I meant the Ash character. Oh, yeah, but we haven't talked about. We've got to talk about the man that's in this. There's a Prometheus man. Yeah, so Isabella Merced is one of the man that's in this. There's a Prometheus man! Wow.

Isabella Merced is one of the crew and she's pregnant and then Andy the android has been taken over by the corporation and he has been given a mission to acquire this DNA rewriting

substance that is on the station. It's the Prometheus stuff. It's the Prometheus stuff. And so Isabella Mercer's character gets injured and then she decides on the way back to the ship she decides she's going to reject herself with this to see what happens. And you got a 25% chance of it working. Yeah, because we have 25% DNA share with rats.

Science. And anyway, she gives birth to a big egg. Yep. And filled with acid. Yeah, an acid egg. And then it cracks open and it's a sort of an engineer guy. A real gangly engineer man. He's an incredible creation.

I agree. I'm unsettled by it. I mean, it is very alien resurrection. It's a human hybrid, which I didn't love. And people are very divided on this third act, but I really liked it. I thought, what a fucking weird thing to both call back to and then design it. It's got the bone white skin and the black eyes and the smile of it. All of it is just like, I saw it with a mate of mine and he was like, that fucked me up.

I didn't like that. I went to a high school the guy looked almost exactly like that Also, really tall can we get him on the show? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he will do it nude unfortunately But I think as well like that. It's the the head was so creepy. It looks like It also looks like you know the first time you see him he Must Not Be Named, Mr Voldemort in the Force of the Stone. Yeah, I mean, he didn't say it. He said, oh god, well, they're going to come track us down now. But I thought it was just a magnificent creation.

And I think when we were talking about the yonic nature of it, the pulsating vulviness of this film, I think all vulviness of this film. I think all of that applied to that character, the spindliness of it, the weird relationship that he has with his birthing mother. In just the scan, whoever you see it, found it like actually disturbing and I think that is something I've not felt in oh I did not expect to feel in like the sixth alien movie or whatever I was I was pleased by that. What is the thing? Did you see Splice? I've seen Splice. It reminded me a lot of that. Splice is an Adrian Brody movie they genetically engineered this. Canadian horror. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, I'm by contrast.

I even though I like the movie, I'm like, I don't know about this last. I don't mean this weird third act where it's a spindly guy. Isn't this an alien movie? Yeah. Shouldn't he be more of an alien? Yeah. I get it. It's a call back to Prometheus. But I think that's that's how people are responding to this. I think that's you know, can I tell you what I think it is now?

Why I liked it was not just like the Prometheus thing of it was you think about the aliens, the xenomorphs, they're like strongly defined by this exoskeleton. I think having this character, the look of it is, yeah, you got a gross Prometheus engineer head on it, but then the body feels like they took the alien exoskeleton and just made it a skeleton.

Yeah, right. Yeah. And skin covering it. Yeah. I think that's so gross. And it does have the protrusions on the back where the odd spikes are going to pop out. Yeah.

I guess that's true. And I guess, you know, the, the idea that it is this, this chemical is meant to convert people into a form that is more able to survive in space. And that's what the engineers look like. They're the perfect organism, allegedly. I also think it's interesting how it played with the law, but not explicitly, because it's kind of implied that maybe David created the aliens. But if you think back to the original Prometheus, they also find that mural and it's got the

aliens on it. So the way I look at it is that- Everybody's just riffing. Exactly. He's just riffing on the DNA. He's just doing jazz on the DNA. So the way I look at it is that he- Everybody's just riffing. Exactly. He's just riffing on the DNA. He's just doing jazz on the DNA and he basically rediscovered the alien. So the way I look at this is that like

the biology of everything is already in that and that was just him tapping into it. So I think it doesn't, I think if anything it muddles the kind of the history of this substance and like these creatures and how they're all intermingled. And I like that. Cause I don't want like, yeah, him like a guy just like he's a

robot he made them like I don't I don't love that we haven't we haven't even talked about that the connection to the original alien is that the original alien in the movie alien didn't go yeah they it lived in the vacuum of space the one that Ripley blew out the airlock and it's in this it's in this movie that's just what it made it to this space station and started messing people up so it's almost the law the only law that they add to it was like oh now we want to take that so we can survive in harsher conditions and stuff yeah so there's an alien comic that's coming out in October it's called alien Romulus one

and that's gonna explore that because you see that alien in this and I assumed that it was like probably a different one but like initially until they say It's not but I didn't even hate that they brought it back Like I thought and then they got it like they killed it like it's I mean it does prove that Ripley is a failure So it sealed itself in its own kind of bio-cocoon I assume I thought it was a great opening like just coming across that you know that the wreck and all of that. So did that alien lay alien eggs? Because where are the remaining aliens? What do the

aliens come from in this space? They said they reverse engineered the DNA. I think Rook said that. I don't know. That does make sense when you reverse engineer the DNA. I do think the actual Prometheus, the legend, the myth Prometheus, the way it incorporates this, I did find that quite interesting. That is the, I think so much of horror films, it's all about transgression.

It's about transgressing further and being punished for it. And I think that discontinuing the feeling of Prometheus taking fire from the gods kind of thing and being punished for it. And I think that this continuing the feeling of like Prometheus taking fire from the gods kind of thing and being punished for that. I think the way that they take it from this as, yeah, we've got the transgression of our characters, which are they're going to steal something and they're going into a place that they should not have been

and they're being punished for that. The more thing that is being punished is like, it still continues to be humankind being punished for reaching beyond their stars and like what they should have been doing and intermingling like overtaking God, building stuff out of DNA. I think for these characters, that's a nice tragedy for a teen horror film to be suffering the consequences from transgressions of the human race and capitalism. Yeah, and not even necessarily them specifically.

That is really interesting. You know a lot about movies. Oh, I watch every movie like Quill and Scroll out taking down my notes. Spinning acid, that's pretty good. That's a new thing. Yeah, that was sick. Yeah, I mean, we're gonna... That was awesome. That was pretty cool. You know, the idea of, well, we can't shoot these aliens because they'll burn through the hull. Yep.

So, what if we did a cool, what if we did a cool thing? And of course she's got the gun that's got the smart thing on it. Yeah. Because otherwise, how could a little girl fire a gun? When they come over, they go, of course, that's all, that's what I would have done. Definitely, yeah. That's how I would have figured it out. And thank God there was an egg filled with acid. I'll tell you why. Oh, thank done. Definitely. That's how I would have figured it out. And thank God there was an egg filled with acid. I'll tell you why.

Oh, thank goodness. And I think the other thing that I really liked in this was it kind of does go back to that Prometheus of the new way to have the chest burster be that operation to take like, you know, basically a caesarian section. I think with this one, the little elements where they kind of go, well,

what's a new way that we can do that? I think that x-ray torch moment. Incredible. Where you see it set up, you go, she picks up an x-ray torch and you go, oh, I can't wait to utilize this in this chest burst theme. And then they use it so throw away.

It's like one second they use it, you see it, and it's over. I thought that was just such a great way to build it up and then go, doesn't even matter. You knew we were going to do it. Here it is and keep going. I love that as well. Like when they just use tech in a movie and then they just throw it away. It doesn't become the whole thing. I remember there's one moment in what's Neil Blomkamp's second movie? Chappie.

No, the one before that. It's got Matt Damon. Oh, Elysium. Yeah, there's a moment where they have to like cut a hole in a car and there's this laser cutter and it just blasts a shape in the thing and then they just throw it away and that's it. They don't explain it and it's like, well that's a really cool piece of technology. You could probably make a whole movie. Oh no, I never mind. Yeah, love it. Zachary Levy could be in a whole movie about cutting holes in things. Love it. Zachary Levy could be in a whole movie about cutting holes in things. Zachary Levy in the shape-cutting box.

Zachary Levy in the Menagery of Pinking Shears. So I want to talk about the future of this franchise. Before we do that, just got some reviews that people have written in, if anybody minds. Of course, I don't mind. Quirrell's at the ready boys. This is from RC Dominion who says just got out of the theatre for Alien Romulus and my heart is still racing what an incredible third act best movie ever. Please go see a doctor. Please if your heart has not stopped racing since seeing a movie you must see a doctor. Russell Michael says Alien Romulus. Also settle down it's just a. Also, settle down. It's just a movie. Yeah, come on.

Calm down. It's not even real. Wow. When you walk into a film, you feel the empathy of the character. So I'm on his side. I see. Russell Michael says, Alien Romulus might be the third best Alien movie, although I haven't.

I have never seen three or four in totality. Certainly better than the two terrible prequels, although Ridley Scott shoe haunted connection. Oh, Ridley Scott produced this and had a minor hand in this, I believe. Surprise appearance of an actor. I did not expect best movie ever. Mike Jorlin says, Aline Romulus was enjoyable. I found the last 10 minutes to be the most interesting. So I wish more of the movie had focused on that still best movie ever. Nick Flanders Farmer says, just saw Aline Romulus, thought it was really well made. Great cinematography. And I love the cameo from the Parliament Station escalator.

Remember that? There was an escalator. Yeah. The member barriers were a tad unnecessary, best movie ever, and yeah, that's all of them. The Alien franchise is sort of shaping up similarly to the Mission Impossible franchise, where everybody's got a different ranking. Yeah. And nobody's really wrong. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, there's there's stuff to like about all of them. Even alien doesn't put everything. Yeah, all the suburbs came alive. That's right. You better believe it. It's like alien does disturb you. I mean, you think the suburbs are pretty quiet, but they got a dark underbelly. I'll tell you about mine. Whoa, David Lynch has been concocting some thoughts in this guy's head. Yeah. So did you see the news about David Lynch? It's very sad. Oh yeah, Emfasema.

He's got Emfasema. Look, he's got Emfasema and he said it's not all bad news, he can still direct. He's got to do it remotely and blah blah blah. But then I just loved the first part of his post which was just, God I love smoking. I loved smoking, I don't regret it. It was great. So in terms of the future of this franchise, this was more of a kind of a throwaway kind of interview from Deadline. They spoke to Fede Alvarez who said, maybe it's something, they asked him about Alien vs. Predator.

He said, maybe it's something I could co-direct with my buddy Dan. So Dan Trachtenberg directed. Maybe we should do like Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez did with Dusk Till Dawn. I'll direct half and he'll direct another half. Now that's kind of a throwaway kind of thing. How does everyone feel about that if they merged these two kind of? Well, firstly, let me correct him. Not from Dusk Till Dawn, it was actually Grindhouse. Planet Terror and The Death Proof.

So sorry, Fadi, I didn't want to say anything there. I don't know, yeah. I mean, like I'm all for it, but I also don't have like that deep Connection to these films where I go you must uphold the laws you must. Yeah, you must play by my Bible I'm like, oh no muck around. I don't care. Yeah, send the alien back get them all together to like, you know Do something on a weird planet? Mm-hmm like predators, you know, they go I I love predators

Yeah, I'm a good movie. Adrian Brody, get him back. Get him back? I'm really annoyed the way that they left that. Like, they're never going to touch on it. Isn't there a sequel comic book? Yeah, but it wraps up the same way. It ends the same way the movie ends.

Wow, okay, that's nice. Just going, by the way, here we go again. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'd be happy for Fede Alvarez to do another one of these and just see what he wants to do with it, I guess. But also, I don't know. I don't know what they could possibly do next. I guess they can just keep doing individual things because I don't see it happening the

same way where we go, okay, we need to continue Alien with aliens and we need to get Ripley back. I don't see Kayleigh Spenny being that, you know, Rey doesn't rain, excuse me, rain Romano. That's how I have to remember it. I don't see that as like such a necessary connective tissue for Continuit. I think she's excellent in the movie, but it's not. Yeah. And it's sort of such a you know downer of a universe I can't really see you know

This is the one where they do a full-on assault on whale and you tiny and they take him down for good It's like not that kind of universe exactly Also, it ends the same way that alien covenant does the that ends with Michael Fassbender freezing Katherine Watterson Oh, yeah And they so if you wanted, if you wanted to do callbacks you could make a direct Prometheus alien covenant. They can have a they can have a T-Rain and they can have a bingle in space because they both set off on spaceships. They could meet up by chance in the fun of the adventure. Have you got a weird friend that's a droid with you? Hang on a second.. We got more in common than we thought Yeah, I do kind of want to know what Michael Fassbender is up to in space. Yeah

I want to find about the origins of man. Yeah, let's go back to that. Yeah, let's figure it out Let's figure it out. All right, should we move on to the next segment of the show? Yes. What's it called? It's called what we read. Yep. I'm doing the thing. Now, Alexi, I wanted to ask you about this because you're one of the few people we know who's seen Megalopolis. Francis Ford Coppola's, maybe his final movie, we'll see. Who knows? We'll find out. Maybe you'll get cancelled. Maybe, maybe, yeah. Now, this is, so this is, for people that don't know, Francis Ford Coppola's mega epic. He's taken $100 million of his own money.

He sold the vineyards off. He's cashed out, he's cashed up. He made his long gestating project. I think the last time it almost came together was like 20 years ago. So yeah. It was like a night, it got derailed by 9-eleven Yeah, it's like he's he's been thinking about this for a long time and now he's finally achieved it

So I've won we've only seen a couple of trailers. Yeah, and in the first teaser it's got Adam driver He's on the edge of a skyscraper and it's sort of very kind of hyper real and glossy and Mirror finish and he can stop time yes I guess my quest I'm stop this time stop time stop and I guess my question is has Francis Ford Coppola somehow accidentally reinvented early 2000 superhero movies and he doesn't know is that oh you know it's not that far off like in the gooey material of like what this film is I think the most that can describe accurately to how it is like this is a very weird film a

profoundly strange film in a way that's like this is palatable as a normal movie yeah I found the palatable but I'm interested in like ambitious right nebulous takes from huge authors absolutely I, I completely, I'm 100% with you on that. I'm not but I try. Because who doesn't love a big swing from a lunatic? Exactly, this is a huge swing and the guy's nuts. From a lunatic. Yes. I think that like with the best way to describe it is it feels most like true surrealism, like Salvador Dali's take on Julius Caesar, the William Shakespeare play. That's the most kind of way I can describe it. It's like, yeah, Terry Gilliam's a surrealist, but like, no, this feels like Salvador Dali. It's sort of an alternate United States.

It's sort of maybe a different timeline or just not really... Different futures, hard to describe. Future future past. It's like strange. And the other thing that kind of feels like definitely feels like Phantom Menace. Like there's a little bit of Phantom Menace energy to this film. Wow. Do you think that's because Just a man left alone? Is that what we're talking about? Yeah.

Because you just said that Jameson was derailed like in the early 2000s. Do you think that's because maybe his artistic sensibility kind of froze there or? Could have because it like it does feel like that. But also like politically, it's like doing a lot of political stuff. The way that those kind of feel like Shakespearean politics rather than just like current day. As Lerman's Romeo and Juliet. That's in the mix too. All of that in all of that in the mix here. Yeah, it's a profoundly strange movie

And I think it's if you go in it is knowingly humorous as well Like I think it's you can I read some reviews of a like is this intentional is this I think it's intentional He's got Aubrey Plaza in the movie. Yeah, that's an actor that has like a comedic prowess and she's playing a character That's funny. So I think it's like, it's a straight, it's an odd mix, but for me, it mostly works. It mostly works. Now, I know you talked about like visually, I was very glossy and all of that because there was talk on the production of how like he wanted certain things and then he would change and then he was pretty much like, fuck it, we'll just do this on green screen.

Yeah. Does it look like shit? I think it's quite, it's a good looking film. Okay. But in not, don't go in expecting to see like Godfather. Yeah. Well, visually or anything, it feels very different to that. It does feel.

They feel old, not not like a throwback. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't it's actually so hard to describe in that way. Like, I think the way that looks. OK, I guess what is is... I'm trying to know how I'm trying to... Okay, I'm trying to say I think Skycaptain World of Tomorrow. Okay, now you're speaking out like this. Yeah, Skycaptain but achieved with knowing how to make something like that.

Interesting. Yeah, yeah. I think the 20 years later of it all all they're like, okay, we know how to do that Yeah, did did you like it? I mean it seems like you did right? I liked it Yes, I do think you liked it because it was him or do you think if you didn't know and you just saw this It's impossible. Is it we can't? I'm not in a vacuum. Yeah cryo opens, you know pop down going He's your first memory of the world is seeing this movie without any pre-adain knowledge. So I can't, I cannot answer that question no matter how deep I look and I'm more biased than most when it comes to this stuff.

And one more question. So for people who don't know, there was a moment in this movie where someone in the audience or in the cinema is required to ask a question to Adam Driver's character. Yes, Mr. Catalina. And you you had the honor of doing that. Yeah, I was the first person outside of Cannes to do it. Wow. So how did this happen? I got an email about it. Yeah, they Yeah, because it premiered outside of Cannes at the Sydney Film Festival. and so they asked me to be that. So there's a moment in the film where there's like a press conference type thing and a journalist comes up to the microphone and microphone that's set up. The house lights go on and the journalist is to ask a question directly

to Mr. Catalina Adam Driver, but it is not my, it's not the audio in the room. The audio is baked into the soundtrack. Oh, so you don't have to shout out the lines? I didn't have to say the lines, but I had to lip sync to it. Oh. So the line is.

So you knew, they'd given you the audio before? They had given me, from filmed was inside the Khan screening, of like how it works, how it looks and how it's set up. Were you nervous doing that? Yeah, I was really nervous. I was really nervous about doing it because it was- Like do people even know what you're supposed to be doing it? Yeah, but that's it. People don't know. Some people would be hearing rumors, other people

would have no idea, but there's a point in the movie the house lights just come up and I knew when that was happening. So I was prepped, I'd done a rehearsal and so I'm to get up and when that happens and a lot like just before so I should already be walking the house lights come up I've got a microphone like in a stand and I meant to I have a pen and pad these are instructions do you have to wear a little outfit I almost did I was I almost did wear a little press hat I wanted wanted to do something like that. But I think I was wearing almost exactly the same thing I'm wearing right now. It's a good look. Which is I am wearing a suit. Not just to impress you guys, but I am wearing a suit. Let it be known. And I, so I had to, I'd been given that and been given like a thing from American Zoe trope, going like, this is what you're meant to do you're meant to have these things and here is the line and usually and from the video that I saw it's like you're

the person doing this is at the front of the cinema that right in front of the screen so you only see the back of the head kind of like yeah. Yeah, but now because of the IMAX in Sydney, if I were to be at the front, not one person will be able to see me. So I had to be kind of in the middle of the cinema, so people will be able to clock me. So I had to live up to Francois Coppola, one of my favorite filmmakers.

I learned the lip sync as close as possible, like to get it timing right, because I didn't want to distract from, I didn't want to track from I didn't want to distract I didn't want people to do that and another reason I was nervous George Miller was watching I was in the cinema watching it happen. So George Miller and Chris Stenders the director of red dog. He sent me a really nice message up ago like man. You did a great job I go off. Thanks, man. And I'd know I directed red dog. I said put me in three men put me red dog three I would ask red dog a great job. I go, oh, thanks man. And I'd know I directed Red Dog, you said. Put me in three, man. Put me in Red Dog three. I would have asked Red Dog a question.

Mr. Dog. Mr. Dog. Red, if you will. Yes. How did that go down in the room, though? People were like, whoa. Like, they were like, they were, most people thought that it was my voice as well. Oh wow, great performance.

But Jason Schwartzman's voice is the one in the film. But I think it was like, because the movie is so bonkers already at that point, to just have this, this is so much weirder than that to just go, there's something happening live in the room. So it is kind of exciting, especially in a festival format. I think it's exciting. But now I'm like, I wonder what it will be like in regular screenings. I was going to say, what, what are they going to cut it out? Are they just going to have it as a voiceover? Well, I believe from my notes that I had seen, I think it's like set up so that

someone that works the cinema can do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's kind of like a kid who's 14 and nine months old. Yeah. You just get a job. He's in the, he's in the cinema uniform. He's 14 and nine months old. Yeah. You just get a job. He's in the cinema uniform.

He's got TikTok on one. Yeah. His phone in one hand. He's like, excuse me, I just had him driving. So Lionsgate ended up picking it up. Yeah. And Mad Men in Australia. Okay, cool.

So we are getting it here now. As a representative of the film, yeah, I can report it. And I will be doing the junkets. Are you really? No. Oh damn. No, no, no. it. And I will be doing the junkets. No, you really? No. Oh, damn. No, no, no. I mean, I would be on the two.

I would be on the two. I would love to travel the world with this film with my castmates, Adam Driver and Aubrey Plaza. Incredible. Yeah. I'm putting it on my CV, I reckon. You definitely should, absolutely. Yeah.

Anything else you'd be nice. Yeah, what else would you be nice to? I've forced that confession out of you. That's also good enough. You don't have to have anything else, absolutely. Yeah. Anything else you've been up to? Yeah, what else have I been up to? I've forced that confession out of you. That's also good enough. You don't have to have anything else. I'll give you one more thing. I think, because it is like film festival season at the moment, one of my favorite films I saw

in film festivals, I think it's such a crowd pleaser, almost I would say it's like the indie crowd pleaser of the year for me. It's a movie called Kneecap by a filmmaker called called rich pep yet and basic premise of this film is It's a true life by graphical film about this rap trio from Ireland's who rap in language like they rap in Gaelic and Irish and They are a new band basically they've been around for I don't know maybe a decade or so but it's like a but it is a by peak like about them and they

play themselves in interesting is coincides now like their first big album has just come out this year as well so it's like coinciding with like their rise to fame so it's like a about a biopic like strip from the current headlines or so. So it's not it's not like a to No, no, no, it's not spice world. Yeah Well, it's more if anything the thing I would describe it most like it sits exactly between eight mile and train spotting So it's kind of got the energy of like these really energetic fun bouncy So it's kind of got the energy of like these really energetic fun, bouncy, independent films from like the 1990s. It's such a blast and so well made, very exciting.

And I've got an episode of my podcast last year with Richard Pepiat coming out very soon as well. But I think it's just like such a fun crowd pleaser. Like that's the best way I can describe it. It's a crowd pleaser. Yeah, great. Yeah, I've seen the trailer it looks very exciting. It's cool it's weird. James what have you got?

Oh the band's cool did I say the movie name? Kneecap. Oh wow they're called kneecap as well. I just blacked out completely go did I just talk about a movie and not say the movie or anything else about it? We did talk. They're called the Irish Rap Band. It's the woman with the guy on the back of her face.

about it. We did talk the Irish rap band. The woman with the guy on the back of her face. This isn't anywhere nearly exciting or as art houses what you've been talking about but my son and I have been reading Batman the Adventures Continue which is a continuation of Batman the Animated Series. It's like a follow up. There's three volumes at the moment. I don't know if they're going to do anymore but it's Alan Burnett and Paul Dini who worked on the original. It's just like it's more of the show and they bring in more of the modern elements. So it's like this Court of Owls and other things that you wouldn't have gotten in the nineties that they kind of bring back. And obviously, because Kevin Conroy is now gone and Mark Hamill doesn't want to be the Joker anymore. Like we're not

going to get this even though we did get something recently. Did you say that they recently released a DC animated movie called Christ on Infinite Earths? And part three was released and people were like the Joker in this he sounds a bit odd Does it said they said it was gonna be Mark Hamill, but doesn't sound like him They released it with a temp track of like a Production guy or something. Oh, you've recorded it. And so they've since patched it So if you watch the stream version it's patched, but if you bought the physical one, you've got a version with just some guy.

Just some girl. Because Mark Hamill was like, well if Kevin Conroy's passed, I don't want to do it without him and they got him because they happened to have recorded some lines. So they got him back. But anyway, it's just a bit of fun. I like it when they reintroduce, when they get they get the old characters, they updated for the modern times. Yeah, there's also Alexia, a Batman 1966 comic book series, and they've done Bane 1966 and etc. And I saw him up with Wonder Woman and all this

sort of stuff. An animated telemovie where William Shatner played Two-Face or something in the 1960s. Oh, that's right. They did an animated movie. Yeah, they all came back when some of them were alive. And they've got the Batman 1989 universe comics as well. And that crosses over with the Superman 70s? Yeah, it does, yeah. At some point, yeah. I like that shit. I watched a new movie called The Substance, which is not out yet,

but I saw it as part of the Melbourne International Film Festival It's coming in in September. I think wide release. It's directed by Coralie Farge yet and it's got Demi Moore Margaret Qualley and Dennis Quaid and it's Demi Moore plays a woman named Elizabeth Sparkle. Who's a she's a she's an Oscar winner. Have you seen this? I like yeah, I've seen it too. It's a she plays this Oscar winning actor who now does a kind of aerobics fitness show and she gets fired on her 50th birthday. But then like by coincidence, she is told she is the perfect candidate for something called the substance, which is a subscription box that you can order.

And it's just one simple injection. Once you get it, you become more beautiful and more perfect and more youthful. And it's going to change your whole life. But you can only do that. You only become more beautiful and more perfect and more youthful. And it's going to change your whole life. Uh, but you can only do that. You only become more beautiful every other week. Right. And there's a, there's a very complicated procedure and it's, and, and provided you follow it to the letter, nothing could possibly go wrong.

That's good. Yeah. Sounds nice. Yeah. It's a lovely film. Yeah. My God. She just regains her youth.

She goes by cycling in the park. That's awesome. No, it's, it's super gross. It's, uh, it's a lovely film. Yeah, my god. She just regains her youth. She goes by cycling in the park. That's awesome. No, it's super gross. It's sort of I think the inspiration does include like a David Cronenberg kind of thing. But it's a really good premise. The execution is really good. I think everybody's great in it. So it's it's yeah, Demi Moore's great.

And Margaret Qualley plays a younger version of her. Yeah. Dennis Quaid is a TV executive who's doing some incredible cocaine acting. And it's just really well executed. It's funny. It's disgusting. It's one of those movies where you don't go, oh, this is a rip off of it. It feels like it's got you recognize a lot of influences, but you don't go, oh, this

is really derivative of this is dead becomes Eric said, exactly. You go, oh, this is really derivative of... This is death becomes her, et cetera. Yeah, exactly. You go, oh, there's a little snippet of this and it feels like this and this and this, but it's its own thing. And it's really just... And it's got great aesthetic. Like it just, it feels commercial at points.

Like, you're like, all commercial aesthetically. Like it's very fun. Like, and this is like, leaving down to like the subscription box. Like when she opens it up and it's got all it's it's all these really simple instructions on these like beautifully printed cards yeah it feels like I'm like a subscription box for like a like health supplements or something like that and it's yeah it's really like viscerally upsetting like a lot of the

audio and the the visuals and God it's a good movie makes you feel stuff yes people puked in my screen twice and one of it landed on my friends oh my god that's like going to Megalopolis and having somebody ask a question very interactive feel very interactive but yeah I would say yeah like Cronenberg the movie about the person in the back of the head. Yes Carrie the elephant man like all sorts of all sorts of good stuff Around September 20th, yeah So if you want to if you want to watch it when it comes out

I do want to watch it when it comes out Yeah, and I saw with Zach Ruehlein from Auntie Donna and he said this thing that I'm gonna say again I wish I had just stolen it from him. Yeah, you you can. But I can't attribute it to him. Yeah. Edit that out please. But he said that it's Body Horror, but it's more Trauma, Toxic Avenger in its take rather than Cronenberg in its execution. I think that's like a great way to describe it because it's fun and silly and not as existential as the Cronenberg kind of feelings of body.

Yeah, absolutely. It's like it's a it's a rip. I think it's so fun. Like please see in the similes of her audience and please have a big lunch before you do. We've got to get some of those chunks flying. Yeah, I sort of the Aster. So like Melbourne's like sort of iconic big, the cabin, the cabin, the cabin and full house and everybody, you know, loved it. And people like you can hear people go, no, the cabin. The cabin. And full house and everybody loved it and people were like, you can hear people go,

no, don't. No. That was awesome. And you can hear people go, oh, no, don't. And some people on the other side would be like, nah, do it. Do it. And then people applaud at the end. So you know, it was a good time.

That's great. Yeah, it's fun. Take the kids. Just kidding. Don't do that. I never do it. It's irresponsible to do so. Now, Alexi, before you step out, you of course do have an amazing podcast called The Last Video Story as mentioned.

You have incredible guests. Yes. An incredible conversation. Upcoming guests, incredible as well. You two are going to jump on that very soon. Who's to say who? Who's to say who? I'll say it.

It is us. It's going to be us, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you talk about classic movies and modern movies and look it's not not to spoil the premise But yeah, it's fantastic. It's yeah, it's just got a it's I love the concept and it's just you're an amazing Oh, are you gonna be in Melbourne for the next week or so for the next week or so? Yeah? We'll you be doing some Q&A. I'll be doing some Q&A for some movies I've got a Q&A with David Lowry the director of The Green Knight. That'll be like a full talk.

That's so cool. And I think he's supposed to be jumping on The Last Video Store as well. Oh, great. But yeah, I'm so excited to have you guys. Yeah, so if you're in Melbourne, go to the Melbourne International Film Festival website. If this ticket's still available, you can pop in. Pick him up. But yeah, The Last Video Store, I'll just say what it is.

It's kind of like Desert Island Discs type show, but about movies and set in the last video store that has every single film So we talked to people about their favorite movies in Southern old-school video store rental combo. Yeah, George Miller's been on we've had Yeah, so if Angela what the famous porn star. Oh, yeah Very good stuff. I made a weird noise then but like Yeah, that's oh, that's a favorite stuff. Yeah. Finding Yeezus, of course, we didn't mention that up top, but your video series is amazing. Thank you so much. Detecting, doing your best detective work. Oh, I'm one of the great detectives. It's me and Batman. We're the best.

It's all on YouTube as well, and the last video store is on YouTube too. You can see our freaking CGI set that we've created. Love all of that. Megalopolis style. Are you looking for another mystery to solve? Freaking CGI set that we've created level of that Looking for another mystery to solve is that is it is it is the series sort of contingent on you finding another? We're trying or say that we've we've been through hell and back trying to make some more stuff Yeah, I mean for people who haven't seen it. It's what I enjoy about it And I'm sure a lot of people enjoy about it is it is it's funny

Yes, but it's also a real investigation. It's real. It's not like we're like, you know, they've obviously faking the whatever, you know It's it's we are research. So it's a degree it is it is contingent on you finding and Solving a lot of great mysteries like all around Australia Yeah, just need to find avenues to express ourselves through. To say that in the most polite, pretentious way possible. Yeah, we're trying to do more. So hopefully keep your eyes peeled, keep your ears peeled, and keep that nose peeled

every sentence we tackle in our next version. All right, thank you so much, Alexi. Tolliofulus, that's your name and I got it right. Yeah, toppy loppy lops. Alrighty, what's the next segment, Mason? Letters. Totally. That's your name and I got it right. Yeah, topi-lopi-lops Alrighty what's the next segment Mason's letters? Yeah, let's do it James. It's time for letters Letters gangnam style. That's right. And Alexi, I was doing Gangnam. He was and Alexi just flew off.

It's true. He flew off the bloody handle. Oh, you did. Yeah. Yeah. We said we're going to do letters and he's like nuts to this, he said. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Yeah. Just under his breath. That's why I didn't hear it. Anyway, this is the letter segment of the show. If you do want to reach the show, you can hashtag weekly planet pod on Twitter or tweet us directly, or I'm probably going to put a thread in the great mates group now from now on or probably if I remember and Mason, you've had Gmail at weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com. There's too many things.

Some of these have to go. You think so? Just quickly though, I forgot to mention- I love that people can use whatever method they prefer. Yeah, but you only look at one of them. That's true. So I was on the 100th episode, live episode of Who Knew It with Matt Stewart. That's terrific.

Which was a lot of fun. You can actually check that out That's great. It's live. Hey speaking of Matt Stewart Yeah, it was fun and also because we forgot to mention these at the top of the show Yeah, I was also on this week's episode of do go on because I guess Perkins friend of the show I was in America getting married getting big married. So congratulations We've all got stuff going on. For example, I was on an episode of Digon. Exactly. And we learned all about... Matt Stewart taught me and Dave Wannake all about Pokemon.

Wow. And did you like it? I did. I did like it. I'm pretty sure you said I didn't. No, I did like it. I didn't stutter. I did like it. I did like it. I did stutter. Great. Yeah, great.

This is from Twitter. Hashtag with the planet pod. I did start it. Great. Yeah, great. This is from Twitter, hashtag work with Planet Pot. It's from Chris, no gods, no masters who says, what are your biggest movie disagreements? I know Mace always strong opinions about the Pinocchio movie whilst James doesn't. She's like, that's true. We have fun, don't we? We have fun being betrayed, don't we? Sure we do.

I would say it's probably in terms of movies, it's Looper. Yeah. I hate that one. You don't like Looper. I don't like it. But it has been so long since, it's Looper. Yeah. I hate that one. You don't like Looper and I think it's great. I don't like it. But it has been so long since I've seen Looper. I don't even think I've seen it on home media. Wow.

I don't think I've ever streamed it because we've had no requirement to. And over the last at least decade, I've learned to enjoy stuff. Yeah. I've learned to uncover the hidden depths of movies, I guess, or just be like, well, it's just because of whatever, or maybe there's some redeeming value to it. And I do like everything else Ryan Johnson's, so I don't know particularly why I don't like Looper. But do you think it's something to do with us having similar opinions because we grew

up in the same era and we knew each other when we watched the same location? We basically watched a bunch of the same crap often together, so we're just in sync on most things? Is that what happened to you? That might be the reason, yeah. Damn. Basically what's the bunch of the same crap often together? Yeah, so we're just in see con most Be the reason yeah, yeah, damn, but this make for a more interesting show if one of us just pretended to hate the thing No, no, I mean we've reached the point Reach the point as well. I don't think either of us could sustain that No, if whichever one chose to be like, how do we even do that? Would would one of us go would it we'd have to do every week, one person had an opinion.

And then the other person would have to be like, no, I disagree. And then we could switch every week. We do often get people, not often, but it's more on YouTube, we'll just say, oh, you've got the standard opinion that everybody has. Oh, who knew that these guys liked this or whatever. But it's like, what you want us to do

is have your opinion. That's basically what that means. I've never. Sorry, the general consensus of this movie is that it's good. Or bad. Or bad. And so we said that because it's true. Sorry this movie was incompetently made.

So it's bad. So we said it's bad. What do you want from us? I don't know. For me, like if somebody even I know who I like is like, I fucking hated this. I'm not like, oh man, that's really ruined my day. That's interesting to me. Why? Yeah. I was fully, you know, if, you know, we just talked about Ali and Romulus. If Alexi

came in and was like, I thought that sucked. I mean, he wouldn't say that. But you know, if he did, we'd be like, yeah, fair. Yeah. You know, you're right. We're easily steamrolled. You know a lot about movies, I guess. That's right. What have you got in terms of letters this week, though? Here's an email from Ryan. Ryan? Dear James and Mace, I've been a fan of the pod since you guys started it back in 2015.

Is that true? No, 2013. Well, I'm now 24 and listen to all the new episodes while I work. During an episode, you and Mace said that you guys saw every movie in theaters from 2003 to 2005. Okay. Well, after listening to that, it has inspired me to do the same. I plan on seeing every movie in 2025.

Do you think I will succeed? No. And will I hate myself for seeing these movies? Have a great week. You need to bear in mind that that's a lot of money. It's a lot of money and it's a lot of... What's your job? What are you up to?

Devotion of time and do you just mean theatrically released movies? I think that's probably easier now. Yeah, I think so. But in terms of, like we could do it back then because movie tickets were like 8.50 or something. 8.50, we could do it. Cheaper on Tuesdays. Yeah, now if you go to a D-Box, it's $31 fucking dollars.

And they're always when I need to see the movie somehow. And then I said, can you turn the D-Box off? And you said, yes, you can. Yeah, but you still got to pay the amount. True. So I feel like my local cinema is hemorrhaging money, except for me. So that's catered their showtimes around me specifically. That's right.

Cause I have to see these movies, Mason. Yeah. Interesting stuff, Mason. This is from the great mates group. This is from Alan Jenkins. Anyway, email back in and let us know if it's, if's you included Netflix releases. What's the what's the what's the you mean? You cannot possibly also mean like streaming release. We don't believe you. Yeah, is what we're saying. Mason, Alan, I believe you though. I don't Alan Jenkins says, with

the release. Yep. With the release of Alien Romulus. Is there a franchise you think you could make you could make a great interquel? Hmm. I think there's probably an interesting you wouldn't now it's too late. There's, we're covering the Terminator movies for Caravan of Garbage, the first two. I mean, there's stuff in between there you could do. Probably also happened in various comics and books, et cetera. Yeah. I mean, I think one of the criticism of the MCU is that the characters evolve off screen.

Yeah. Like you see the, you know, we, and we're really just seeing, you know, two hour snippets of their lives. I'm sure you could, you know, it'd be expensive. Yeah, you could fill in the blanks with you know, what did Wanderer and Vision get up to? Oh, the crows next week. No, no, so I was just looking at next week. Yeah. Sorry, go on. Crow interquel. What's between the crow and the crow city of angels? Just crime, I guess. No crow. No crow though. The Crow No Crow. Just a bunch of crime that was not important enough for the Crow to intervene with.

Because there was no Crow. Yeah. Yeah. The Crow No Crow I think is, would I watch it? I would to see if they carried off, they won't. I mean when you think about it, a lot of the Crow movies are mostly No Crow. It's true. There's probably more no Crow in a Crow movie than there is

the Crow. Oh man, it says the Crow's not out till Friday. So yeah, god damn it. And I can't go on Friday because I'm in that live show and I'm free Saturday, but guess what the session is? The one session that they've got. It's fucking D-Box Mesa. God damn it. Wow. Yeah. Anyway, any other interquals that you think in between things? I'd love to see all the what the Oceans crew get up to in between big scams. The Oceans 11 little scams. Little scams, little scams. Little scamps, little scams. Yeah, okay. I mean, I think, I don't think I've ever asked for an interquel. Sometimes there's some room there to put something. You know, like rogue one. Interquel. John Wick, two and a half, mostly reloading. Just in a room, just putting clip, thumbing the bullets into the magazine, you know.

Mostly reloading. Yeah. What have I got here Mason? What do you reckon it is? Do you reckon it's from the Great Mates group? Might be. It is. Do I get a chance to read it? Didn't you do one?

Maybe. I'll do another one. That was my one, wasn't it? I did the interclaw. Sorry. Sorry, man. Here's some ones that I think are good. Okay.

This is from Elias. Elias? Great energy on this week's episode, mates. The energy reminded me of the early episodes where you would sometimes do dilemmas. Here's a dilemma for the pod. You either have to sacrifice one random person on earth or be sentenced to a porridge year, a year where you're only allowed to eat water-based porridge. And how many people would you sacrifice to avoid a porridge life?

Where is the limit? Love the pod. You're Norwegian friend, Elias. I mean, through the butterfly effect, we've all probably killed someone. Oh, you think so? You think the podcast has killed people? Not necessarily the podcast, but just a person living. Oh, yeah. You know? But I mean, in this, we are presumably...

They're basically pushing a button to kill a random person. Well, I think in this instance, they're pushing a big bowl of water-based porridge towards us. Yeah. And we're saying, no, thank you, I'm going to do a murder. Yeah, I don't. I mean, do you get, is it killing me? Like me eating porridge for a year, will that sustain me? Oh.

I feel like I'd die. Yeah, that's probably true actually. And look, I'll roll the dice on killing somebody else who's not me. But if it's, if I can live. If this were a Twilight Zone episode, James, or possibly The Outer Limits. It would be someone I knew. Well no, the next scene would be somebody scene would be somebody also being offered that choice. But then they kill me.

Yeah, then you die. You know what I mean? Because you're so selfish. You won't need to porridge every meal for a year. To die. I mean a porridge year. Yeah. Porridge myself to death.

Porridge yourself to death. So if I could live through it, I would do the porridge year. You'd probably get lean. Probably get so lean. Or bulk. I don't know. Yeah, what does porridge do to you? It's all carbs, isn't it?

It's all calories and carbs, man. I mean, presumably you've got your milk with it. Can I choose my- No, it says water-based porridge. Fuck. So I couldn't choose my milks? No. And then I'm getting different sustenance from different types of milks?

No, you're not allowed to do that. Can't I get an almond milk or an oat milk or a soy milk or a cow milk? Doesn't say. I don't think so, no. Okay. I also, is this a common thing, a porridge year? Or is this, has Elias invented the... Is a porridge year a common Norwegian hypothetical, I wonder? It's a sequel to a marriage story.

It's a porridge year. Okay, great. Just Adam Driver in an empty apartment. I am sick of eating this porridge, he'd say. In this porridge year of mine. Yeah, that's right. Smash. Smash on the wall.

Yeah. I would, I don't know, I do like porridge. Can I put a drizzle of honey on it? No, Mason. It doesn't say I can't. Well, you said I couldn't put different milks. Cause it says water-based porridge. But it doesn't say you can put shit on it either.

It doesn't say I don't. Cause otherwise it'd just be like, I'll have it with an apple. It's air-button rules. There's no rule that says I can't say you can put shit on it either. It doesn't say I don't. Because otherwise you'd just be like, I'll have it with an apple. It's air button rules. There's no rule that says I can't put a drizzle of honey on it. So I'm going to say yes, I would do a porridge here. So I can't drizzle on other milks? A milk?

No. It says, you know what? It says water based porridge. So I think you can drizzle on a milk. Okay. Moving a drizzle, that's a completely different scenario. Or a yoghurt. I could put on some protein powder. I'm bulking up.

Wow. I'm bulking all year, Maces. Porridge boys. We're doing it. All right. That's right. You thought we'd agree to murder, but we didn't. No. We're doing a porridge year. We're doing porridge years. We're going to be better than ever. That's right. Yeah.

This one's from Cameron Gonzalez from the Great Mates group who says, do you feel like you have a podcast voice now? And if so, do you find yourselves using it in real life? Yes. My voice is, this is like an exaggerated version of who we are. Yeah, right. I would say I'm probably not on there together. No, although- This is mostly what I like.

I've from time to time finished the podcast and gone to meet with various people and on a number of occasions they've said, have you just done a podcast? I'm still in the mode. Oh wow. No, I've never had that. I'm quieter in real life. I'm more low key. You don't want to come on here and be like, which is what I normally like.

But it's not like exhausting. Like doing this, I'm not like, oh my God, it took. That's right. You know, but it's not like exhausting like doing this. I'm not like, oh my God, took everything out of me to do my podcasting voice. It's just me, but I get to shout more. So true. Good question though, Cameron Gonzalez. Mason, you got another letter? I do.

This is from Trey. Hey Mason and James, love the pod, been listening since as long as I can remember. What does that mean? Maybe five years, I don't know, time isn't real. Time isn't real. Passed all my firefighter tests, but realized I need to get my EMT certification before I can be hired. Also had a scheme that I could get hired as a private jet salesman and make better money.

It's really struggling with decision. You've helped me through some stuff and we love some inputs. Which do I do, jet salesman or firefighter? I love all your schemes. Me too. I mean, if you're looking for like a career, it's probably firefighting, but like, is it something you enjoy?

But then again, think about this. I don't know, what's the over under? What's the profit margin on a jet? Maybe you only have to sell like three jets a year and you're rolling in it. Yeah, I know, but what if you don't sell those jets? Yeah, that's right. Firefighters, they've got a good union normally.

It's a steady income. You do two day shifts, two night shifts, and you've got four days off. Yeah, there's broken sleep patterns is obviously the element of danger. But also you could fall into a jet. You can do that as a firefighter as well. You could also find a fire on a like a tarmac. Yeah. You know, and you have to put out a fire on a Harrier jet. It's got the vertical takeoff. Oh, yeah. And you're above it. Yeah, you're trying to put it in there. And you're balancing on one foot and you fall into the turbine.

Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Those things are the same. They're equally dangerous. Yeah, so I'd be a jet salesman. Would you? Yeah. What kind of jets?

Private jets. Private jets? Yeah. Interesting. I saw somewhere recently, I don't know, it was probably just a YouTube short that I got sucked into. Of like, they'll, you know, billionaires buy these jets or whatever, and they'll have them

all lined up there, but they also just lay out some Bentleys. Sure. They'll be like, oh, the Bentley's only $150,000. That's nothing compared to this private jet, which is like, they'll just have them out there so people would just impulse buy a Bentley or whatever. Again, it's probably from a YouTube short. Sure. When I got sucked into a Joe Rogan elder algorithm

Uh-huh, which I love by the way. Yeah, so I don't know There's probably more money in private jets. I guess like you said, yeah But you do have to build that reputation as a good as a guy selling reliable And maybe you're getting some real clunkers of private jets, you know, what's the market like for that? How many salesmen are there? Like you're working your way up? I think it's probably like for luxury cars where there are fewer people buying them but they all have like 50. You know what I mean? Everybody's got 50 private jets. What are you doing with 50 jets, John Travolta? You're racing them. You've got more jets than wigs, man. Well yeah, he's going shaved head now. I like how he's

doing that. Me too. He looks better and good. And one more email. This is from Steve. Steve? Hello, Mosu and James. Watching the Olympics, I noticed Australia wears green and gold despite this not being the colours of the flag. Without Googling, do you know what the reason is?

Yeah, it's the wattle. It's our national plant. That's right. It's a symbol of a land. You can put it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand. Yeah, you can do other things. Those are the only things you can do. No, that's the only thing you can do. You can make a tea, a special wattle. You can make it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand. Yeah, you can do other things. Those are the only things you can do. No, that's the only things you can do with water.

You can make a tea, a special waffle tea. You can make a tea. If you want a tea that tastes like absolute shit. And also I think the cricket team. Yeah, also like so many like those colors, our flag colors are blue and red and white. Which is everybody else's. Which is everybody else's. So yeah.

Also like I hate our flag, it sucks. Change it. Yeah. It's up to the fist of the bum coming out of it. So yeah. Also like I hate our flag. It sucks. Change it. Yeah. It's up to the fist of the bum to get me out of it. Reversed. No! Okay! Alright. Our flag sucks, Mason. It's so good. I know. I've seen it.

Along with that stupid national anthem. I know. Stupid and I hate it. Is that everybody? That's everybody and everything. Good show! Thanks so much for listening. Thanks to our friend Alexi Toleopoulos for popping in for Poppy Poppinglopoulos.

That's right. It's linked below all this stuff if you came. That's right. Check it out. It's good. It's all good. It's really good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He likes movies like us, but in a slightly different way. He likes movies better than us. He does, doesn't he?

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