The Weekly Planet - 545 Megalopolis

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

It's been four decades in the making but Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis is final here. And we have some thoughts. ALSO WE'RE BACK. THE PODCAST IS BACK. We get into the news of the week including the passing of Maggie Smith & John Cassaday, a potential Deathstroke and Bane movie, The Mandalorian wrapping up, a streaming release date for Hellboy: That Crook Bloke, trailers for The Last Of Us: Part II and Ballerina plus we do some hot quick news of the Thunderbolt* trailer, Kyle Chandler as Green Lantern, The Australian Office and more! Thanks for listeningJames & Maso live appearances at the Cheerful Earful Podcast Festival on October 5th in Melbourne! James joins Confessions at 5PM. James & Maso join Wilosophy at 7:30PM. Tickets are available to attend and livestream maybe: https://cheerfulearful.podlifeevents.com/Visit bigsandwich.co for bonus weekly shows including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads. Maybe skip an extra few minutes.00:00 The Start05:13 RIP Maggie Smith & John Cassaday09:48 Bane & Deathstroke Movie Happening14:55 The Mandalorian Series Ending17:22 Straight to Streaming for Hellboy: The Crooked Man18:44 The Last of Us: Part Two Trailer21:42 Ballerina John Wick Movie Trailer23:20 Hot Quick News! Kyle Chandler Green Lantern Series26:44 Thunderbolts* Trailer & Joker 2 Might Flop in Cinemas33:40 Spider-Verse 3 Delay & Transformers One Latest37:52 The Office: Australian Version Trailer42:15 Megalopolis Review55:06 Megalopolis Spoiler Segment01:20:43 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:29:39 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGj Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Weekly Planet Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk about movies, comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr Sunday and with me as always, that's my co-host Nick Mason. I mean not always. No. There's how many Weekly Planet episodes now that don't have me on? Well are they official? Are they counted? Some of them are going, oh so by the way I was in the UK, did a bunch of seven live shows. Some of them will go out on like Big Sandwich or whatever. If you're wondering where we were, you know, if you're like, what is this rerun slop in

the feed? Yeah, that's right. What is this? What is this premium content on the feed? You know? Thank you for saying that. What a wonderful time. I completely agree.

Did you have a good three week? Pretty good. Two and a half weeks? I mean, I did my regular job. Yeah. But otherwise, yes. So just work then. I didn't.

It was my regular job, but I didn't have the safety valve of coming in here and screaming. We have movies that I hate. But boy, it's the week for that, isn't it? Oh, absolutely it is. God, we've got big movies to talk about this week, in particular, Megalopolis. But before that? I was going to say next week we're talking about Jogatoo Folio 2. Oh my god. Big Jogatoo Folio 2. Are you excited? I'm excited. I'm genuinely excited. Do you think it's going to be good? No. No! Don't go into it like that.

No! Go into it with a big cool attitude. No, but see, again, you lower the expectations and maybe when they do the big kick I'll be like, oh my god. Big double kick. That's going to be incredible. But this week, if you're wondering what we've been up to, James, of course, done those live shows.

But while this show was away, an episode was released of our friend Alexi Toliopoulos' podcast, The Last Video Store, in which he brings in a guest or a couple of guests and they talk about some of their favorite movies, both new and old. He brings them into the Batuta Video Store. Correct. And not only is that on your favorite podcast app,

that is also on YouTube. You can have a look. You can look at us, it's a full hour of us. Yep, yapping away. Yapping away, just flappinglapping our gums I'm just having a look at the views bigger than Keith Urban's episode that's all I'm saying bigger than a certain Christopher Hemsworth's episode and we haven't even promoted yet we're doing it now we didn't even want to we didn't want to no it was awesome it was a lot of fun a lot of fun yeah yeah like he came down to Melbourne yeah and it was good fun and

yeah for people who like who want to look at us on video and go wow you guys It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, Lexi came down to Melbourne. Yeah. And it was good fun. And yeah, for people who like, who want to look at us on video and go, wow, you guys look a bit weird. We know and we love it. Yeah. We've cultivated this look. We're going for it. Yeah, we're really going for it.

We're taking a big run at it. That's exactly right. And we're getting, it's going to get weirder. Our look. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Stay tuned. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Should I be a cravat guy? I think so. Yeah. I'm dying my hair jet black I'm going back Mesa. Beard and all. Nice. But white eyebrows. That's terrific. I'm gonna look insane speaking of I'm incredibly jet-lagged I feel insane and then I watched Megalopolis today and that did not help at all. Yeah Now you desperately wanted to be the guy. Yeah who stood up in Megalopolis. We're not really getting that in Australia No, I just kept doing it. I just didn't know when it was, so I kept getting up and being like Adam Driver! Hey, Caesar! Hey! Hey! Stop it! Tell me the truth about Megalopolis. You better not turn your face into Megalopolis at one point. Did you kill your wife? Did he? What's in the movie? We'll talk about it. A couple other things

to quickly promote. Jackson and Joel who I toured with who are amazing from Sans Pants. Good boys. We did a couple episodes of their video game, episodes of their video game Thumb Cramps, which was awesome. So that's on their feed. And the other thing is we are doing some live podcasts this week. That's right. Well, not our podcast, but we're guesting. Well, I'm doing Confessions with Will Anderson, hosted by Sammy Peterson. It's the last episode ever. And then both of us are doing a live episode of Willosophy. Those are both on Saturday evening.

That's part of the Cheerful Earful podcast festival. We were like, we do not have time in our lives to do this. And then people asked us. And we're like, I guess we'll be fine. I guess we'll be fine. So there are tickets available to, there are limited tickets available. It's pretty limited.

I think it's 100 maybe a show? To be in the actual audience, that's in Brunswick. But if you can't make it, it's also streams all around the world. You'll be able to check that out. It'd come down. Come down if you have to. That's exactly right.

Which you might. So we got the news of the week, Mason, just quickly. Collin, calling so I met by the way Incredible him and Maisie came down the first time was amazing hanging out with those dudes He does the time codes when he edits this show so we've got You think they're gonna feel extra special now that you've met him. No, okay. I think he was let down You get being like you're a bad person. Yeah, and you know He's like I'm still gonna do the time codes, but my heart's not gonna be in it.

So we're gonna talk about the passing of Dame Maggie Smith and John Cassidy. We're gonna talk about a potential Bane and Deathstroke movie in development, the future of the Mandalorian and how it's going to stop, a release date for the Hellboy, that crook bloke, trailers for The Last of Us Part II 2 and Ballerina and then because of course we missed a couple of weeks we've got some quick hot news. We're just gonna fire off some topics. Rapid fire style. Are you ready for that? You been keeping up with the news? Mostly. Yeah man. And also we're gonna talk about probably all the stuff we've been watching. Absolutely yeah. And some some big stuff. It's been some big stuff. We've got some gaps to fill don't we? Well, we've got the rest of our lives You okay with that? I guess I guess I'm okay with having the rest of my life. Good. Good. Good Yeah, let's start with this. So Dane Maggie Smith has passed away at age 89

Damn. She of course people will most famously know her as Professor McGonagall from Harry Potter She's in hook if you're our age you would know that. That's correct. Downton Abbey, Harry Potter. She's in Hook if you're our age, you would know that. That's correct. Downton Abbey, of course. She's had this illustrious theater career and television as well. Amazing, spanning decades. By all accounts, very funny, very charming, very nice lady.

And people out there being like, oh, you know, you died and you're best known for being in a Harry Potter movie or whatever. But it's like, for a lot of people, that would have been their first introduction to her. And she was great in those. And you know, and then maybe you'd go, what else has she been? Not everything in Harry Potter is bad.

That's right. Just that one person. Maybe some others. But you know what I'm talking about. I do, yeah. So her son's Toby Stevens. I didn't know Toby Stevens was her son. He's the villain in Die Another Day.

He's Korean. Remember? Yep. And Chris Larkin, they released this statement. It is with great sadness we have to announce the death of Dame Maggie Smith. She passed away peacefully in hospital early this morning, Friday 27th of September. An intensely private person. She was with friends and family at the end. She leaves two sons and five loving grandchildren who are devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother.

And just having a skim of like the work that she's done, at Wikipedia mostly, she also she was did an amazing amount of charity work. Like she helped raise money to repair the courthouse theater in Christchurch after the huge earthquake. She helped raise money for the glaucoma association. She was also vice president of the Royal Theatrical Fund. That's about provide support for members of the entertainment profession who can't work

due to illness or injury. So yeah, she was a massive proponent for the arts. Again, by all accounts, like a wonderful person and an incredible legacy. So yeah, 89, pretty good innings. Pretty good innings. She was a cancer survivor as well. She beat that I think in the late 2000s.

So yeah, amazing. Really incredible woman by all accounts. And also quite recently we had the passing of a noted comic book artist, John Cassaday. Yeah. Only 52. He had a heart attack. Yeah, it's really surprising. But I've always been a huge fan of him.

He was the artist on Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men. That's a great run. Which is a great run. But to me, he's most best known for me and some incredible work on a series called Planetary, which was basically, it was writer Warren Ellis and it's a team of people who explore the secret history of this particular world. And the secret history is like every crazy thing you can think of from fiction. Yeah. From like pulp heroes to like giant kaiju on an island to like the ghost of a murdered Hong Kong policeman back for revenge kind of thing. And he took this on basically because he was like I want to draw something different every issue. Okay. Like it was I want a new concept and a great

idea like for every issue. Sounds very ambitious, Mason. He pulled it off and it's also like it's notable for a different cover every issue with like a different logo. Right. There is also, if you want to check out one particular notable issue,

there is a planetary Batman crossover in which the planetary team gets shunted through a bunch of parallel universes and they find out that in every Gotham City except their own there is a certain protector and you see all sorts of weird variations of Batman and it's awesome fun okay I'm gonna check that out but I yeah gone too soon incredible stuff he did a bunch of Star Wars comics he did a run on Captain America which is really good oh nice through that way too young well the other thing I was going to mention, have you bought your tickets?

Tickets yet? Oh what was that thing? What are we buying for? So speaking of Alexi Toliopoulos earlier. Oh yeah that's right, I haven't bought my ticket for this. Well it's alright, James there's plenty of time. I hope so. Because we're recording this. Yeah yeah cool. I'm doing it now. Okay for people who are fans of Alexi Toliopoulos or Zach from Aunty Donna, they're doing some sort of theatre production directed by Michelle Brazier in which they play Margaret and David, famous Australian movie reviewers from the telly, our Siskel and Ebers. That's right.

And they're doing them, they've written a play about censorship in Australia and they've performed it live in Sydney and there's a couple of dates I think left in Melbourne and we're going to be at one of those because I'm really excited to see what that is. Absolutely. If you go to the Comedy Republic website the tickets will be available I think. Alright cool. Tell me again which show that is because I think you sent it to me when I was delusional.

I'm still delusional but I'm here now. It's called Refused Classification. Oh, very good. All right. I'm definitely going to check that out. Mason, Bane and Deathstroke movie in development by a THR. Is that true? Yeah. No. As far as I know. So apparently Bane and Deathstroke might be in a movie together. OK. Those people who don't know,

they're two Batman villains. One's famous for trying to kill Batman and the other one's famous for trying to kill Batman and shattering his back Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, but they're both famous. They are very famous. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it's gonna be out in the public eye should be called Bane and Deathstroke world's most famous Maybe Bane and Deathstroke go Hollywood. Mmm, maybe they're Hollywood Boulevard. Yeah, open topped We saw Batman got his star didn't he? Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's pretty good.

Like Ben Affleck didn't show up. You think you're too good to be Batman, Ben Affleck? None of the live action actors. No. But a bunch of the voice actors did, which was cool, yeah. Did relate, it was there, and et cetera. Among others and so on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You probably want some more details about this, don't you? I mean. You're gonna have to wait. But I do have some here. This is by Deadline. So I don't have to wait long.

No, some details. I can't remember. It So I don't have to wait long. No, I have some details. Okay, right, right. It says they say exact plot details are still uncertain. Great, terrific. Does that help? No. It's more details though. I guess it is.

Yeah. Sure. And sources also stressed that the two characters would be- I'm so stressed, but I'm gonna tell you this anyway. God, I'm under the pump here. The details of the plot of this is imp- We don't have any yet. It's unclear.

I'm panicking. I'm going to get fired. The two characters... I'm trying to get ChatGPT to do it. Didn't do it? It's bad. Oh no. ChatGPT needs to work harder.

I agree. I don't know what it's up to. The two characters would be in the movie, but it's unclear if they'll be the central figures of the project. Incredible. So two guys in a movie... Bane and Deathstroke. They're not the main guys.

And a lot of people like, is this like Wolverine Deadpool kind of, they're trying to do a buddy thing. But there's been speculation. Of the two Batman villains who could be buddies. Yeah. I mean, Deathstroke's not really a Batman villain. I mean he is, but he isn't. He was a Teen Titans guy initially.

Of the two villains of the DC universe that could be buddies. They're not the first two I would think who would you pick? the riddler yep and Cluemaster. Oh very good. Yeah, they don't get along initially because riddle is like clue master. You stole my stick doing mine. Yeah, exactly Yeah, yeah, but then I know then they do get along. Yeah cool. Yeah, God, what a multiversal journey that would be, I assume. That's absolutely going to be a multiversal journey. That's right. Oh no, I've picked up the wrong riddle. It's done a multiverse on it.

I've picked up the worst clue master, which is just the regular one. Well, there's speculation, I saw this on comicbookmovie.com that maybe it's a secret six movie. Could be. It's like the DC Sinister Six basically. Yeah, right.

You know. They gotta get one thing in first. They do. It also could be, though I think it's probably too early for this, it could be the Bane beats up Batman story, the Nightfall story line. Oh, I sure. Because it is Batman like a few years in.

It's just Bane telling that story to Deathstroke in a bar. Yeah, fucked him up. Yeah, right? Should have seen it. Yeah. Had another guy to step in, had a mullet. Yeah. It was crazy. But, right should have seen it. Yeah had another guy to step in out of mullet Yeah, crazy. Um, but also we did that movie already. It already happened. They did it in the Dark Knight Rises I sure did. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see what this is

Supervillain team up something again. The Batman is like he's into his career. He's like three Robins down I think by the time because they're doing Batman. What's one they're doing? Brave and brave and bold Is that one? The one with Damien Wayne. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's his fourth Robin fourth robin Well, it's his fifth Robin if you count Stephanie Brown, who's the daughter of the gloomers around? Oh, yeah Get on up exact James Brown. That's giant. That's James Brown and that's a fact Yeah, now do you think they should continue the long

standing tradition of Bane has a stupid voice? Yes. Yeah I think so too. What do you think they should do? Stupid voice. I know like for years, what's his name? He's in Dune, he's in Gun in the Galaxy, he's Drax. David Bautista. David Bautista wanted to be Bane but of course recently he's lost a bunch of weight because he's like it's really difficult to be that big. Yeah. So, but like everybody's like boo just keep being big. No let him be let him be whatever size he wants. Let him be whatever Mace it. No I'm saying that's what people are saying.

That's what you're saying is it? No no no no no. I think he can do whatever he wants. That's what I think. He looks anyway he looks more like Hugo Strange now. You think he should shrink down to the size of a pea? What? I mean if he wants to.

I don't think he should but that's if he wants to. No that seems dangerous actually. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. that's equally as dangerous. It's not more dangerous honestly. I agree. But yeah, he, I mean people have been saying this for you, like Hugo Strange, right? Yeah, absolutely.

The Little Glasses. Yeah. The King of the Little Glasses strikes again. The Little Glasses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's back. Yeah. So let's talk about this now.

It could be a Secret Six movie. Yeah. Could be a famous Five movie. Five fight, Bane and Deathstroke. Oh God. It's a very short fight. Oh no. Because they're children. Yeah. Could be a Famous Five movie. Mmm. Five fight Bane and Deathstroke. Oh, God. It's a very short fight. Oh, no. Because they're children.

Yeah, they do. They have to be bad for them. Yeah. Deathstroke has a sword. Yeah. Yeah. The Secret Five or whatever, the Famous Five, probably have like, I don't know, like a treacle, like,

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like a conquer on a string. Yeah. They've got a conquer on a string. Dude, they'll kill you. Yeah. Put it away. Yeah.

Deathstroke's got a gun. Yeah. It's got a lot of guns got one eye, but it's not gonna matter No, it's not gonna matter Yeah, you can regenerate from you hitting it with a conker. Mm-hmm. He probably could yeah. Yeah Yeah, easily this is by Daniel Richmond now, you know about this. There's a Mandalorian movie in the works Yeah, and Lauren versus Grogu. Yeah, it's the only Star Wars movie that's confirmed I think it is filming or it's going to. Okay, sure. But it's going to happen it seems.

We've got the sets already they said. That's right. We've got the big screen. Yeah, we've got the big screen. Daniel Richmond has confirmed that the Mandalorian movie will be the final chapter of the show, no season 4, which apparently they were going to do at one point. Okay. He will be in other projects after that but the Mandalorian that's over as a concept. Wow.

Fine. Did they factor in that they're going to have to come up with another concept? Yeah, they've got one. Which is? Star Wars, it's in the past and there's witches and ghosts or something. That's cancelled. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Oh no. Oh no guys. I thought they had two shows, Maces. They've got Andor, but he gets obliterated by the Death Star. That doesn't start it, but it is over. That is definitely over. What else have they got? That's so over.

They could do Obi-Wan season two. Obi-Wan fights Darth Vader again. Obi-Wan this again. It's both of them. Didn't we? Yeah. Do you want to see Obi-Wan season two? No. Nah, man. Nah, man. Didn't we? Yeah. Do you want to see everyone season two? No. No, man.

No, man. No. So they've got other things probably in the works. They don't have anything. Well, the Daisy Ridley one is apparently a little bit delayed. It's cancelled. I don't know if it's cancelled. But the Mandalorian, I mean, Ahsoka!

Because they're going to do the Thrawn thing. They're doing that. They're in another universe or whatever. They're doing Skeleton Crew. Jude Law's like, you're worried. You're worried. You thought I was freaking out, but I just took a minute to think of what they were doing. Some other stuff.

And I think it's actually good that it took us a while to think of that stuff. Cause it's worth it in the end. It was worth it in the end. It's all the sweeter. Mandalorian, you happy for it to be over? Yeah. Yeah. The compadre of Pascal is going gonna miss doing that voiceover work,

getting that check. No, no. No? Aw. He's got other stuff going on. He's got a lot. He's doing a fantastic job. He's Mr. Reed Richards.

You know? He's Mr. The Last of Us. Exactly. I'm Jack the Last of Us, part two. We'll talk about that. So yeah, I think it's time. It feels time. We're good with that being done.

Some people will never be good with it being done. They'll be like, let's do another Mandalorian. I don't know. They're locked in. This is their favourite thing. They're like, this is the one thing that's... He's still going to be around. Don't even worry about it. Alright. Will he be in Ahsoka? Will the timelines... I would say so. Yeah. They're all five years after Return of the Jedi. We know this. Hellboy. The crooked man. It's finally got a US release date.

In cinemas? Digital! I think it comes out here. I don't think it does. Doesn't it? I don't know, man. Let me check. Hellboy, 2024 Australian release date. October 31st. Yeah we'll definitely wait till October 31st for this movie that streams next week. Also it's October 31st it's just the one day. Yeah you've got to get in quick. It's a Halloween. Busy I'm doing a Halloween. Yeah me too. I'm gonna do a Halloween in my costume. James. What? I'm jet lagged! Don't worry about it. Okay. This is not, I can say anything it doesn't matter. No that's true. I'm jet lagged. Don't worry about it. Okay, this is not this I could say anything. It doesn't matter. That's true Not my right mind. Yeah, shut up Are you looking for the hellboy though? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, apparently it's fine. I've been in the hellboy subred a lot of people like yes

It's all right. You know, you're not gonna get objective reporting in the hellboy So no, I know but that even if they're saying it's all right, then it must be all right. It must be pretty all right. Yeah. Got a couple of trailers. You need to go to the subreddit that's like Hellboy. Let's be real. It's called Hellboy. Let's be real.

Be honest with ourselves. Take a good hard look in the mirror. Yeah. Yeah. And realize that it's very obviously diminishing returns. Yeah. Oh, you're a big fan of that third one. I am.

It's true. All right. Try those Ahoy Mason. Whoa, you've been sharpening your vocal chords. Yeah, I've been working on it, yeah. God, what do you mean sharpen them with? Like that thing that you sharpen a knife with? Yeah. God.

A whetstone. I've been swallowing whetstones for three weeks. Have they been passing or are you just filling up with whetstones? I'm assuming they're dissolving. Oh yeah. Stones do famously dissolve very quickly. Yeah. I think you just filled with chewing gum and wet stones.

As you know, chewing gum stays in your stomach for a hundred years or whatever. That's so true. So we've got a trailer for The Last of Us Part 2. Looks amazing. Yeah, we've got a good look at Catherine Deva as Abby. Abby, Okay. All your favorites are back. The Grimace bloke you've ever known.

That's true. Bela Ramsey's character. I recognize some stuff from the games, no doubt. Like the fence tipping over. You didn't play the second one, did you? No, no, no, no. I didn't love it. I felt it very drawn out.

I liked the narrative, but it felt really stretched. Well, I recall a lot of people getting attacked by dogs. Oh yeah, it'll happen. It's got some amazing sequences in it, but there is a lot of just walking and chatting or just cut scenes. It's very, very long in a way that I did not like. Okay, because some people say,

how are they possibly gonna? They're not, there's no way they could fit this into one season unless they like, I think they've talked about splitting it into two. Okay. So The Last of Us Part II. In seven years. Part I and II.

Yeah. So that, yeah, it looks great. I think there's a lot of things that you could, because you're not doing the gameplay, that you can. Because I think in a lot of ways, the, you know, well not a lot of ways, I think the TV show in the first season tells the story better than the game. Except maybe the ending, I think. Or at least it's different in a way that is interesting. The Bill episode is great, like that's not in the... The episode where they meet the Bill.

Yeah. Hello Reg. Hello mate. I've perfected my English accent. Yeah I've noticed, yeah. Yeah that was really good. What are you up to? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Pretty good. You know, it's weird because we're meeting people and I'm like, I know you're English but you're not from here. But I don't know where anybody is. I'm like, you sound different than everybody else. What's going on here? And sometimes I'm like, I'm Australian. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah.

It makes sense. Classic. Classic Australian guy in England. Shlobbing around in England. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Classic. Yeah. Nah, good stuff.

Did you go to any Australian themed things? I didn't. I don't like doing that. Okay. It's always bad. Yeah. Did you do any of that while you were here? In Australia? Yeah. Yeah, all the time. Did you go to Red Rooster? I've been to Red Rooster. Did you go while I was away? No, I didn't go while you're away. Thank God. You know why? Because it's bad food. It's bad food in a depressing atmosphere. And if you're not distracted by someone else being there with you, you'd think about it too much. Yeah, you start looking at the walls. Yeah, there's nothing on the walls. TV's gone. It's just a bracket. You're looking at the bracket. You know?

A manager definitely took it out on their last day. Just went, this is mine, and they just left it. Yeah. Ballerina though, John Wick spin-off, which I think is set between three and four. The last, I believe, cinematic appearance of Lance Reddick. This was filmed in 2022 before he's passing. So it's Anna DeArmas, who of course was in John Wick chapter four. She had a cameo in that, didn't she?

Did she? Did she? Did she? Did she? I don't think so. I don't think so. Isn't she in a John Wick movie? You're thinking of James Bond.

Yeah, you know, I might be thinking of James Bond. She's Paloma in No Time to Die. You don't know anything. It's true. I'm jet lag Mason. Yeah. God, what am I doing? What am I doing to myself? So yeah, it's, and also of course we do get a little cameo from one Jonathan Wick.

That's correct. And if you look at like the marks that he has on his face You could probably line them up to a certain scene. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. He's just been thrown out of a window Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that But we do also know that this franchise is continuing not just with this movie, but with John Wick 5 When did he lose one of his fingers? Is that three? Yeah one with Anna de Armas. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's right Good movie. I saw this on Twitter this week, a fun little, little quirk of John Wick is that when he's in like the city, and he's firing his guns and he reloads, he just flicks the magazine

away. But there's a moment when he's out in the desert. Yeah. And he like, he changes magazines and he puts it in his pocket because he doesn't want to spoil nature. But he's happy to kill everyone in the world. Yeah, all that and like, and just throw it onto the street. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's a cool as hell guy. He's cool. Yeah, you're right. Two of the only appearances from the world of John Wick Ballerina is the character of Eva Macaro. Right. Whoa. Okay, great. Mason.

Hello. We've got to power through some stuff if you don't mind. Oh, does that mean it's time for hot quick news? What? Ow. Too hot. You've been keeping track of the news, haven't you? Yeah, I love the news.

All right, what do we got? Ah, geez. How about I start? Okay. Oh, here's one. Yeah. Maybe Kyle Chandler has been cast as Hal Jordan. I think.

In the Lanterns TV series. I believe that is all but confirmed Okay, yeah, a lot a lot of people were proposed. I went through several men including some people Josh Brolin Josh Brolin, Chris Pine. Yeah, Ryan Reynolds was maybe even considered. No, no that was the word on the street Okay, there's a funny little fun little bit. Yeah. Okay. Well that would say that he McConaughey That would suggest he's only in it briefly. I don't know. I think he's a main player. I suspect. I think they were like we don't want to get on board a DC universe. Yeah. And rightly so. Yeah. I'm wondering if this is unproven. You know, that's true. I'm wondering if the storyline might be something along the lines of, you know, Hal Jordan's the veteran and then maybe he dies at the end of the first season we pass it on to. And maybe John Stewart is going to be the main guy? Yeah, so it's the two of them and it's true detective style. It's just called Lantons. It involves a, like there's a murder plot on earth, but it might have interstellar implications. Ooh, Martin McConaughey.

I said Al Hathaway. Yeah, yeah, that's true. We said two actors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, we're back in sync. We're back in sync. That's so true. Yeah. Yeah.

People said three weeks away would ruin this. Is that what they said? Go to a doctor. They said, hey, three weeks away. Go to a doctor. Are you talking backwards? Get away from me. What's happening?

Anyway, they said that. They said that. But they're wrong. We're back. We're better than ever. That's right. I like this idea. It's got Damon Lindelofers involved, Tom King. There's another name involved. I's right. I like this idea. It's got Damon Lindelof is involved Tom King. There's another name involved

I cannot remember who I liked. Yeah, is it Carl Chandler from Friday Night Live? No, it's one of the creative people I can't remember which one. I think Carl Chandler's a good choice. I agree. He's great. And you know, he's older Yeah, again, he's a veteran green lantern. Imagine him in like a like a like a like an Air Force leather jacket It's got a furry collar. Yeah, it's got some badges on it. It's got some badges on it. It's got a furry collar. It's got some badges on it. It's got some badges on it. Jordan on it. It says Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's. Michael Jordan's leather jacket. And there's a subplot that Michael Jordan, he's taken it personally and he's after Jordan. He needs to stop taking things personally. Man, you're the greatest athlete of all time. I think that's enough. Sit down. Well, he was. Stand up.

of all time. I think that's enough. Sit down. Well, he was. Stand up. Stretch your legs out. You know? Yeah. I am looking forward to this. There's still some names being thrown around for Jon Stewart, but that is, as of the moment, unconfirmed. Including maybe the guy, and maybe this is just recency bias, but the guy was in Rebel Ridge the other day. I downloaded Rebel Ridge to watch as I was away and I didn't because you recommended it. I did. Because it's a guided green room, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm going to get to that. Aaron Pierre. So the thing about Aaron Pierre is he's got very intense eyes. Oh, you could make them green. And when I think when I think of Jon Stewart, I think of his version that we see in like Justice League Unlimited, the cartoon where he's always he's got perpetually glowing green eyes. That's awesome. Which is sort of unique to that particular Greenland.

So maybe that'll work. Maybe that'll work. It's got the eyes for it. It's got the eyes for it. It's got the eyes for it. Anyway, this has been Hot Quick News. Quick, ah! God, this has been so quick.

It's burning up in here. Ah, it's got a fever. Yeah. And it's a literal fever. But it's also Hot Quick News. What else have you got, Mason? Ah. I can do one.

That's all I have. Thunderbolts. hot quick news What else have you got Mason? I can do one. That's all I have. Thunderbolts trailer. Oh, that's right Now we spoke about this briefly a few weeks ago because we saw the leaked version. It seems to be the same It's mostly the same. They've added some big bold text. They've added a tagline Which is careful who you assemble which I think is a bit of fun. Careful who you thunderbolts. Exactly it's a bit of a riff on Avengers there. That's right. It's on the poster an impact font. Very very last-minute edition. Making an impact on us. There is some additional

footage there's more Winter Soldier footage. Oh yeah. He's gotten back the gun from Captain America Winter Soldier, which is the gun that fires the disc and the disc goes under your car, sticks under your car, and then bang, and the car flips the car. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Back in sync.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. So that's a bit of fun. Yeah. And we got the Thunderbolts poster. I don't know if you saw that, but it's... I mentioned this in one of the live shows that I did, because there was that theory that it's AI generated, because of Bill Pullman.

Bill Pullman? No. He's Bill Pullman's son. it's AI generated because of Bill Pullman's son. He's in Top Gun. Robert Pullman? Robert. I don't think it's a bit, his character's name is Bob, yes. Yes. But I don't think it is. I think it's a... No, it's not. You can see that it's just framed weirdly. What is the term for this? Lewis Pullman. Lewis Pullman. There we go. What's the term for this sort of Pullman. Lewis Pullman, there we go. What's the term for this sort of poster? Is it Baroque? Because there's a Sons of Anarchy poster, like one season of Sons of Anarchy, it was the same vibe. Everybody's getting in there. Yeah, okay. What's the term for it? I'll never know. I will never know. Someone will let you know. I'll never know and I'll never learn.

Good to not learn. I agree. That's good. What do you think about Avengers Tower, etc? What's my what's going on that? I still think it's I still I still think that the big reveal is gonna be that It's okay. Here's a couple of options. I said, yeah, it's gonna be owned by Willem Dafoe as Norman Osborn that might be it someone I emailed in I don't have the email right here, but they said it might also be Wilson Fisk Yeah, okay, because it needs to be Wilson Fisk. Yeah, okay. Because it needs to be a guy, the reveal needs to be why people can go,

ah, it's the guy. I think it could also be, there's an outside chance that it is Jeff Bridges as Obadiah Stane. Oh, I like that. And then people might be like, didn't he die in that exploding fireworks factory at the end of Iron Man 1? Yes, he did, but what if he didn't?

What if he didn't? And people are like, that's the guy from the first movie. Ah, he's back, ah. And his son could be there, we get Ezekiel staying and there's another, you know, there's another thing there. He could just be like, I jumped out of the window. Yeah. And I actually didn't die. I did a roll. Yeah. I did a roll behind some safety. Exactly, yeah. There's the, there's the Sons of Anarchy poster. Oh, there you go. Okay. It's quite baroque, isn't it? When you look at it. Is that the term? Oh yeah. I think it is. It's definitely a feeling. I also saw, apparently in it, there you go. Okay. It's quite baroque, isn't it? When you look at it. Is that the term? Oh yeah. I think it is.

It's definitely a feeling. I also saw, apparently in it, there's some plans for the Sentry's tower, which often sits on top of... Avengers tower, yeah that's right. So it could be something to do with that as well. Perhaps it's been there all along. Yeah, well that's right. Because of course, Sentry, and you know more about this than I do, he is a character when they introduced him, he was kind of, he'd been wiped from history, so he'd always been in all the major events.

Yeah, so the idea behind the character is that he was new in the early 2000s, the premise was that in the Marvel Universe he'd been there for years, and all the other heroes at Leiche had forgotten about him for reasons that are revealed in the original miniseries. And they also did a fun little bit where like, the editors of the book were like,

I, we've had this character for years, I guess we opened a drawer and we forgot. They were lying. So how much of this is being used? I'm very curious because he's in the comic books, in the comic books, he has the appearance of like a Superman style character. He's got a cape, he can fly, he's invulnerable, he's super strong, etc.

But ultimately, his powers are like significantly more far-reaching than that. It's just he's sort of chosen to give himself those powers. He can actually sort of alter reality on a fundamental level and sort of create things, like a far-reaching way, like all around the world. So how much of that is going to be in this movie or how much of that is just going to be like, well we simplified and he's just a guy who can fly. I think it's probably going to be like a combination of super soldier serum and gamma radiation. Sure, okay. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, because he seems to be lab grown, whatever's going on. Yeah, no, true, true, true. Hockwick News, whatcha! Whatcha! This is Pizza Hut and Gro! Damn. Yeah. It's heating up? Whatcha? This is Pizza Hut. Oh, whatcha, whatcha? Damn. Yeah. It's heating up because of all the hot quick news. Hot quick news.

Hot quick news. Now, Joker 2, follow your news. Oh, yes. It's tracking pretty low. It's looking to have a 68 million US opening weekend, which is far below the first one. Yeah, right. Okay, this is something we've talked about extensively on the live shows, which, if you were there.

Oh, yes. Which you were, actually. I was there. something we've talked about extensively on the live shows, which if you were there, which you were actually. I was there. Thanks for coming. I was very quiet. Yeah. If somebody had said the secret word, I would have sprung up and gone huzzah. It was the C word. That's really clear.

You would have said it. I think Dushy would have said it. Yeah, I was going to say Dushy would have said it. Yeah. But it's what are we talking about here? Yeah. So I think it comes down to it's marketed weirdly. They're not committing to like it's what are we talking about here? Yeah, so I think it comes down to it's marketed weirdly. They're not committing to like it's a musical.

I don't think Todd Phillips even likes it. It's a musical. I think he likes it at all. No, it seems to be the way that they're talking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think this is a very much a Joaquin Phoenix and to a lesser extent, a Lady Gaga, like lead production. They were rewriting it on the fly on, like, napkins.

Great sign. And it's a jukebox musical. They released that song. Lady Gaga released that song. It's the Kath and Kim theme song. What? I didn't know about this. She released a song and it's that Joker in the Pack, the Joker is Me song, which is funny if you're Australian,

because that's a very famous song from... Yeah, right. Well, it is a very famous song, but it's from a very famous Australian sitcom. Uh-huh, right. Funny if you're Australian, because that's a very famous song from... No, it's a... Well, it is a very famous song, but it's from a very famous Australian sitcom. Yeah, yeah. And if you don't know, it's like there's always a Joker in the back, and the Joker is me, etc. It's Joker-related, which actually fits in perfectly with this movie, which is about... Oh, because this movie's about the Joker. It's mostly about the Joker.

What's about a guy who says his name is the Joker? Now, I'm not going to spoil anything, because also, I don't know. Have you read any of the leaks? No. Yeah, okay, cool. Because it's out this week. I know. We've got to see it. I know there's... I'm going going to spoil anything because also I don't know. Have you read any of the leaks? No. Yeah, okay cool. Because it's out this week. I know. We've got to see it.

I'm going to take my son. I know this big joke, you shouldn't take your son to the beach. Why not? Because he'll probably shoot Robert De Niro in the head again. He already died. Your son. Oh, okay. In real life.

Yeah. He'll be inspired. He's alive, yeah. Yeah, he'll be inspired to buy a gun and go to American shoot. I would hate my son to turn into the Joker and shoot Robert De Niro. I was going to say, yeah.. That's the risk you run. So yeah, but it's tracking low. It's not really, I think it's still going to do okay. It'll probably break even and then some. Yeah, right. But the height behind this, I think if you love the first

movie, this is very different. And I like the idea of them trying something very different. But it doesn't seem like they've fully embraced it, embraced it in any interesting way. I don't know. I mean, big joker. Big joker's in this. Right. As a double-stair kick. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

It's beautiful. It's a courtroom drama or something. But yeah, get out of here, Joker. We'll talk about you next week. So hot. What about this one? Apparently Sony are restarting production on Spider-Verse 3, but delaying it. They're like, we're gonna like this. So it's just scrapped and they're gonna...

Everything's scrapped. Apparently. That's a lot of work. That's the story. I know. Wow. It's already late. It's supposed to be out six months ago.

Right? Yeah. We should have been, at this point we should have been like, that wasn't a satisfying end to the story. Yeah. We're mad about it. We could have been mad for six months at this point. Exactly. Imagine how good that would be.

So yeah, that's... I don't know. I think that was still a rumor. I mean, Sony also, you don't know if you saw the story where there's a new contract apparently between Sony and Marvel where Marvel now have the rights to use any of the Sony characters. Like, I think it's something like 30 days after that goes to VOD, which means they can use like alternate versions of Craven or whatever. Oh, Morbius. Yeah, or Morbius. I'd say they probably, sorry, if they like Craven.

And why wouldn't you? And why wouldn't you? Well, they don't like Craven. He's a friend to all the animals. Yeah, exactly. If they want to use like a Craven that doesn't like animals, which is Craven, they can make their own version. Yeah, better version.

Yeah, the other stipulation is that Sony has to spend at least $75 million on their movies and release it in 2000 theaters, which basically a way of saying, stop making low budget bad villain spin-off movies or whatever, or Madame Web movies. So it has to be more than $75 million. Yes. Because otherwise you can do what they did with the Fantastic Four movie in the 90s. You make a pile of crap and then you don't release it or you give it a really soft launch and then you keep the rights. So it's basically a way to ensure quality control.

I'd call this the Warren Beatty rule. Yeah! Big Warren Beatty vibes in Megalopolis don't you think? Like Dick Tracy kind of. Let's not get into it until we get into it. Yeah! How about this? Oh! Wachaa! Cha! Too hot! News! Ah! This has been so quick and hot! Yeah, how about this? Oh, whatcha? Cha! Do what? Whachoo, whachoo, whachoo! News!

Ah! Pssst! This has been so quick and hot! We bought too many whips! We did too, yeah. But I mean, you were at the duty free and they, you know, you buy the whips on the way, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And they said, you want to dip it in all this kerosene?

Yeah. And I said, yeah. I'll whip it and dip it, absolutely I do. For the flight? Absolutely! Lorenzo di Bonaventura, who I unfortunately didn't get a chance to grill while I was away. Our Transformers is not doing super well and it's US released, so it hasn't been released in Australia or Europe. China yet. Yeah. So I think it'll probably, it only costs $75 million, so I think it'll probably be all right.

Did you end up seeing it? No, I'm going to see it this week. Well, it wasn't out when I was in the UK. And my son, because he really wanted to see it, it's been out here a couple of weeks. He wastes it. He hasn't seen it yet., I'm gonna see it this week. Well, it wasn't out when I was in the UK. And my son, because he really wanted to see it, it's been out here a couple of weeks. He waited. He hasn't seen it yet. We're gonna see it this week. Is it school holidays?

Yeah. So he'd be, all these friends would be like. He's chomping at the bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'd be like, I'm gonna tell you who dies in it. Yeah. He's like, is it Optimus Prime? And they'd be like, yeah, always.

He always dies. Absolutely. And everything. And they bring him back. They bring him back. Yeah. God. So I might do a double bill of that and the Joker. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, Joker too. Nice. Yeah So anyway, Louisa did Bonaventura said an easy Basically that they finally figured out Transformers and the idea was you can give them heart and personality who knew Wow

Every other it's only been 30 years or whatever. How long has he been involved with this? This mess? Since the original live action. Okay, so 2000 and... That's why there's dudes in it all the time running around. Yeah, yeah. That's why they're Mark Wahlberg movies or whatever they became. Yeah, that's very obvious. We all knew that.

We knew that, yeah. And catch up. You also sort of did it in Bumblebee, if you remember the movie that you made. That's right. You know? Yeah. Yeah, this, it should be more than unpleasant robots tussling with each other, you know? Exactly. So... They've cracked the code that you made. That's right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It should be more than unpleasant robots tussling with each other.

You know? Exactly. So they've cracked the code. Well done. But now these movies are less popular than ever. Oh, and they also said that, yeah, we're working on G.I. Joe. We're hashing it out.

Which if you saw the post credits of the Transformers movie, the last one, that's what it felt like when they opened that empty room. Said, what's in here? Mm-hmm. Do you think? Yeah. What could be in here? Yeah. Audience, are you surprised by that?

That they still haven't figured out the GI Joe thing yet? Not at all. Yeah. I don't know, but it's not promising if this doesn't do well, though. Even though it was really well received. Mm-hmm. It's a bad brand in the cinema, at the very least at the moment, I think, because they just used up so much goodwill making five bad movies. They sure did. Yeah.

Anyway, quichar, etc. Quichar, quichar, quichar. Go on and so forth. We've got one more Mason. Go on. You're a fan of The Office? Yeah. What about the original, the UK Office? Oh blimey. Yeah. Why do only fools and horses work in an office? That's the thing. Good question. Yeah. Anyway, there's been 13 or so adaptations and Australia is finally getting its turn. That's right. Yeah, right on time.

Right on time. And the trailer came out. And a lot, I saw saw, look, it very quickly spread around the world through various Twitter pages and so forth. And I saw a lot of comments that were like, this is the worst thing in the universe. Now here's the thing. Yeah. I think it's got potential. I agree. I think there are a lot of people involved who I like. Yeah. Well, here's the thing though. So on the one hand, we have Stin Raskopoulos, who's a very funny comedian. I've seen him live a bunch of times

in the gym role. And we've got Sherry sevens who was great in a bunch of stuff, including the sapphires. Yes, as the Pam roll, you have the demon, the Tim and Dawn role. That's right. Here's the thing. It's a gym and Pam, Tim and Dawn things. Exactly. Like they haven't gone with a new thing. No, well, they're like, okay, well, the office formula requires the overbearing boss and the Tim and the Dawn. Yeah. I like Felicity Ward as well. But that being said, don't get it twisted. I don't think this looks good. Again, I like a lot of people in it all who have wrote on it.

And I think also the first season of the US office sucks. Because it's trying to do... Well, that's the thing. It's trying to ape the original and then they got their own vibe. So is this going to get a second season? Yeah. Or is the, maybe the, I mean surely like, I'm sure Ricky Gervais has some input into this. Who knows.

I mean maybe the- I mean would that even be good? I don't know. But maybe the, I mean maybe the, maybe they've done, you said they've done 13 adaptations or something like that. Yeah. Maybe 13 have been successful, and the playbook has always been initially copy

the British version and then move on. So maybe they're like, we're just doing it again and it'll work eventually, or something like that. Also, a lot of people have been like, they've looked at the characters we see in this and they've gone, they're too freakish. How do you feel about that? I know, I like that they're kind of, you know,

a bunch of odd ducks. What I don't like is that it does feel very kind of, and this could just be the trailer, like the reality is heightened. Like there's a real mundanity to, the US one less so, especially as it goes. Yeah, that's right. But I think you kind of need to start it like a little bit

like kind of more low key. But then again, maybe that's, you can't do that now because people are so used to what the office has become. I mean, some people have said, freakish. Jesus. No, because they're too black caricature like. Yeah. They're like, well, I'd never meet these kind of people in the office. Whereas especially with the original office, you're like, well, I would meet these kind of people. They're kind of ordinary. As some people have said in Australia, well, we don't need the office because we already have Utopia.

To me, that is like saying, why did we need it's always sunny in Philadelphia if we have cheers? Like just because they're set in a bar doesn't mean they're the same thing. No, you're not wrong. Utopia is about like talented people who are trying to make the world a better place butting heads against their superiors are all dumbasses. Yeah. And the office is about finding little bits of joy in a mundane day to day existence. They're different things. I definitely had that thought that like there is a better version of this that exists than it is utopia. But you're right. It is there is room for other workplace shenanigans. Exactly.

I know I spoke to, cause I did a live confessions with, um, Celia Piccola. Celia Piccola and Georgia Love. Who's in Utopia? Who's in Utopia. And I said, have you seen it? Like have you seen it? She's like, nobody had seen it.

Even the people in it. This was like a month ago. Yeah. Hadn't seen it. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what this is. Like in all honesty. I'm going to give it a crack then. I hadn't seen it. So I don't I don't know. I don't know I don't know what this is like in all honesty. I'm gonna give it a crack done I will also give it a crack. Give it a crack. Let's go in fair Let's go in strong and right fair and strong and right our opinions are right

Anyway, that's how quick news What are they ever quicker than ever? That went a while. Yeah, cuz of how hot and quick it was. It just seemed like regular news. We just kind of did that bit at the end. It's just an excuse to do whip noises, and ultimately fire noises sometimes. Crackling. Megalopolis. Megalopolis.

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So yeah, it cost $120 million. This is a movie he struggled to get financed for like 40 years. He ended up selling off part of his winery to self-fund this. The grapes bit. The grapes bit. He hasn't directed. He sold it off to Sunrise, your son, Sultanas. Did he?

They made Sultanas out of them. That's pretty good. Sold them for like 50 cents a box. 50 cents a box? Yep. Okay, that's pretty good. So the last movie he did was The Godfather, I believe box? Yep. Okay that's pretty good. So the last movie he did was The Godfather I believe in 1972. That's actually not true. He's done many movies

between then and there. Oh yeah he did Dracula. That was the last one he did. Oh yeah. It's not. He did other movies. He did. Including surprisingly the movie Jack. Oh yeah. I think he directed that with Robin Williams as a man who's also a boy the he did also the rainmaker Okay, sure sure sure that was was that the that wasn't the last one he did something in you did do one in like the 2000s, but he was not credited on it. Perhaps. Is that what I'm thinking nobody's up to I don't know. I don't know what our whole deal is. You know, he's cool guy and he's normal. Don't you think? No, so this was our rife with delays Well for many years.

It was also he was going to make it around the 2000s, then 9-11 happened. And if you've seen this movie, which you haven't. I have seen it. No, you haven't. No, sorry, not you. The people listening. Most of them have not. Okay.

Then that was delayed because of the events of 9-11. It's been recast like multiple times. The production itself when he was filming it was just, we've talked about this just riddled with problems. Him kind of unsure of what he wanted, saying like, we'll just green screen it and fix it later. They were going to use the volume and it didn't really work the way that he wanted. It was going to be Zendaya and Oscar Isaac were going to be at some point. Oh, was that at one point as well? Yeah, then they dropped out. I imagine probably for the lead roles.

The lead roles, yeah. That makes sense, I guess. It was also, apparently a lot of the actors were told to improvise on set and you can certainly feel that in some of the scenes because it's pretty fucking scattered in moments basically. But we loved it! We loved it! We're in the sponsor segment! We loved it!

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The guy who asks the stupid question. That's right. Also, like, his wife passed away during the making of this, which is tragic, obviously. They asked us to put that in the sponsored segment. They did, yes. Also, he allegedly maybe groped a bunch of people during making this, which they also asked us to put in the... But it's all right, because the people he groped were the other sex pests in the movie so...

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This is a fucking enormous bomb. I don't know whether that's a shame or not. He's fine. He's got... Yeah, he'll be fine. Tens of millions of dollars. He's got the rest of the winery that he didn didn't sell all the machinery. Yeah, that's right Yeah, it probably won't clean a little the little tavern bit at the probably at the side where you can have a little Well, I'll taste a little taste test. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll take one bottle place

He sold off all the spittoons though, did he so now there's nowhere to spit you just spit on the floor I heard he drank him That's what I heard. Oh Yeah, so it probably won't clear five million dollars in its US opening weekend. Luckily you were saying it only cost five million dollars. No no no no no no no no no no it cost a lot more than that. Oh no. Yeah. Oh no for him. 120 million dollars in his own money. It's gonna open sixth and that's behind The wild robot it's behind very well and apparently a lot of people like that one I've read the first two books yeah they're great behind Beetlejuice twice transformers one and then there's some

other movies which I don't know this is got me in the wasp quantum what that's coming from behind well really got beat by one of his favorite movies. That's correct. Um, god damn. So there's all of that. What do you think the story was? Oh right. It's actually fairly straightforward this, but it's told in a way that's uh... Upsetting. No, not upsetting.

Boring. Convoluted boring. Boring in parts. Are we out of the sponsor? Boring. It's pretty boring. Okay. Not exclusively.

Okay. So Adam Driver plays Caesar Catalina, which is an anagram of Francis Ford Coppola. And he is the world's greatest filmmaker. Sorry, I mean architect. Yeah. And he wants to make the best movies, I mean buildings in the world. Yeah. But there's all these people. They won't let him. They won't let him.

They're getting in the way, meddling. Open the end. Tell him what he can't do. Open the end, he just does it. Yeah, and then at the end he has, if they just left him alone. Back up. He'd be able to make the world's greatest filmography, I mean a place called Megalopolis. Yeah.

Which looks a little bit like that goop inside a lava lamp yeah big that's right um and you can get a ball to work yeah or something but anyway this this this movie is set in a place called New Rome which is basically it's New York it's New York because the Christ the Christ the building is in it yeah the late 21st century there's no real explanation as to where how this can Why the cars are the same. It's just a parallel universe. It's parallel universe. It's a multiverse. It's a fable so it doesn't matter Yeah, it's a fable so any we loved it in any we're not we're outside of the sponsor segment So it's okay. It's a fable so anything that's a little bit weird that you go. I don't know if this worked

It's a fable. Yeah, you know Anyway, there's from other people in it. All the people that are trying to bring him down, for example, Giancarlo Esposito plays the mayor. Yeah. It was like, you should stop building the best city in the world. I think people need a place to live and food and jobs and stuff. And a casino. And Adam Driver's like, well, actually, no. Well, actually. They want my weird city. Well, actually Shakespeare. I'm going to say a bunch of Shakespeare. That's right. Which is very telling. Don't you think?

Yeah, I'm actually the best and I'll be proven right. Yeah. But I'm not going to, you know, if you ask me about my process or anything that I, how I do anything or how I'm going to achieve this, I'll just do a soliloquy at you. Yeah, that's right. And that'll make you think that I'm very wise. Yeah, maybe it is. Yeah, maybe I'll date your daughter That's right. Uh, yep, and that's that is her name is It's Julia, but it's Natalie Emanuel who is also recently in the remake of the killer. Yes, Peacock

She's also in the fast and furious movies Game of Thrones. She's the hacker and everybody's like you can't be. He's got a dead wife. Oh Lawrence Fishburne retaining with Francis Ford Coppola. Mm-hmm first time since apocalypse now and he was like 14 Yeah, that's crazy. Um, John Voight John Voight Shia LaBeouf with one of the worst haircuts ever committed to film. That's correct I definitely a front-runner for worst hair of the worst haircuts ever committed to film. That's correct. Definitely a front runner for worst hair of the year. Absolutely. In our awards show at the end. But anyway, everybody's trying to bring him down. Yeah.

But fortunately he has some advantages. One, he's always right and he's the best and he's got the best imagination. There's one, there's one. Oh, he also invented something that can do anything. Well yeah, he invented a miracle substance called Megalon, which it's a great building material you can use it to make like Harry Potter invisibility cloak clothing yep it can

make magic walkways it can even do you can even turn into that first aid kit from Kingsman the Golden Circle where it can fix you completely even if you shot directly through the skull of Brian yep what else could it do what can't it do well there's a moment where someone's like, is it dangerous? And he's like, what if we all loved each other? Yeah, and no, it's not dangerous at all. It's the best thing ever invented. Oh you can also maybe see the past with it, like visions of the past, unless it's also you can see your memories, but maybe only Adam Driver can see the memories of his dead wife because maybe she's in the Megalon

You might be in there. You might be in the Megalon also He can stop time. Yeah, he can but he At any point where it might be handy or practical Yeah, really only uses it to pause the city and look down on the city and go Wow what going on what going on? Oh, wait, though. He loses the ability to do it. Yeah. But then he can again. I was saying, then he can again.

Because Natalie Emanuel's like, what have you thought about believing? What if you believed in yourself? Could you do it for me? I can. Also, I'm immune to it. Yeah, she doesn't work on her. Doesn't work on her. Yeah.

I don't know. God. For no reason. So a lot of this movie is like you said, it's like you can't make a big cool city and he's like yeah but I want to. And then he does. Yeah. And there's all...

Maybe you should build some new living quarters for people before you blow up their apartment block. No, I'm gonna though. I think I'm alright. I'm gonna though. Yeah. It's when it's done it'll be good. Or it'll be like oh this terrible thing hath befallen me, Adam Driver.

Oh, this person's... Oh, my accounts have been frozen! And I've got a weird eye now! You've got a weird eye now! What ever shall I do? Or like someone will plot against him. Oh! But then it's fine.

Then it's fine. Every time it's like, I'm alright. I guess he's the best, you say. He's the best! He's the best. He's got a great haircut. They've all got that haircut. Why have they all got that Caesar haircut? Even John Voight has it. Oh my god. Shia LaBeouf in this.

Just fopping around. Let me ask you this. Before we chip away at everybody, what did you think of this movie? It's fucking insane. In a good way? Oh, it's look, it was boring. It was boring. But I did, there is something really compelling. Disagree.

And this is what I hoped it would be. This was made by a lunatic. Yeah, I know. Like 100, he's lost his mind. It's so self indulgent. And again, I know he's going through a lot of personal things or whatever, but it's such an obvious allegory to a number of things like the perils of capitalism and his own personal life and career or whatever, but it's told just like, it's broken. It doesn't fit together.

So there is something I think inherently interesting about that. Like some of the choices. Just me watching going, oh my real... okay. I think it is worth it for the conversation we're having now. And like if people want to watch it with friends and have a conversation about it afterwards, but I do not think it is good. I think this is a terrible movie. I haven't seen Jack, I don not think it is good. I think this is a terrible movie I think I haven't seen Jack I don't think but it's of every and as a man who's made many movies that I would consider great movies It's I was like his worst. It's easily the worst movie of his I've seen yeah and

A lot of people said like you mentioned it's about you know his internal term term on and what have you and you know? He's his wife passed away and all that sort of stuff and his internal turmoil and what have you and you know his wife passed away and all that sort of stuff and someone's I saw someone say well it's about you know it's about it's about his he's been he's gone on record to say something along the lines of you know he's worried about this the the the sit in the world of cinema that he's going to leave and did he live in a better place or whatever and I've seen people sort of conflate that in this movie and go, well, that's what this movie is about. It's about a man who wants to leave the world in a better place. But I disagree. I think this is a movie built on a mountain of spite. I think this is a movie of like it's a, he's

taken stock of all the things that movie producers and, and studio heads and money men have said to him, oh, you can't do this. Or maybe you should cut this out. And he's gone, I'm going to put it all in. Yeah. I'm going to put every single thing that you've said I can't do. I'm going to put it all in.

And I'm going to get every idea I've thought of for the past 40 years about this movie, and I'm going to put it all in. And there's nobody, because he wrote and produced and directed this, there's nobody to say Maybe you shouldn't do this. Maybe there's maybe some of this You think is innovative, but it's been done before or maybe some of this you think is relevant But it's not relevant anymore in the in the world that exists now Like there's a subplot in this and like a lot of the subplots in this movie, it comes and then it goes immediately

about this kind of- We're just gonna do spoilers. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, who cares? Well, I mean, it's, there's a lot of things that come and then go, and it's not really a spoiler, but there's a subplot in this

about a sort of underage kind of girl pop star. Yeah. And her like- It's probably a 10 minute subplot. Yeah, and her persona is that she's very pure and virginal. Yeah. And then, and all these dirty old men, they pledge millions of dollars to her for being a virgin or something.

But then she is sort of thrown into this like sex tape scandal with Caesar, with Adam Driver's character and then it's sort of hand waved away. But it's like, do you remember in the like the early 2000s there was like Britney Spears and Jessica Sixer and all these characters. That's exactly what I thought. They were these, for people who don't remember, there were these sort of you know these young girl pop stars and they were all were all like the media was like obsessed with their virginity. Yeah, that they were they were singing songs written by Swedish old Swedish perverts. Yeah, a bet that were kind of raunchy and risque. But their whole public persona was like, we're actually quite virginal and all that sort

of stuff. And then and then the world moved on from that. Yeah, this is this is that. And it's like, somebody should have told Francis Ford Coppola that this, like, pop stars now are like their brass and their espresso and so forth. This isn't relevant and nobody cares about this anymore. And then it just comes and it goes kind of thing.

Well it is because like, there's a video released and it's Charlotte Buff's character who's the cousin of Adam Driver's character. It shows them in bed together and it's doctored. So there's this huge scandal. Adam Driver gets arrested. He's released but then it's immediately revealed that she's not actually underage. She's 23. And the video was doctored. And then he's like, but I can't use my powers anymore. And then that's the moment where she's like, well what if you did? And he's like, no, I'll do it. He also got beat up by those theatre people. I got beat up by theatre people.

I thought that was why he lost his powers. Oh I thought it was because you... Maybe because of the scandal but then but then Giancarlo Esposito is like well maybe it wasn't illegal but it was certainly immoral. But he wasn't there. No exactly. He wasn't even there and that's the problem look that's the problem with a lot of this improv stuff asu as well So look earlier on Twitter, I wrote Francis Ford Coppola's Duke Nukem forever And I stand by that yeah and for two reasons one For people who don't know in the early 90s. There was a video game called Duke Nukem 3d It was very popular and boobs it had all sorts of rude stuff

And then and like innovative stuff would like innovated on doom a little bit crude Humor crude humor and then the the studio that made it immediately went on to make or to announce Duke Newcomb forever Yeah Which was in development hell for literally decades? Yeah, and and the reason it was is because they kept trying to chase innovation They were like, oh, okay, we've been working on it for two years, but then they made a new game engine. So we're going to throw everything away and we're going to start again.

Or like this other studio made better enemy AI, so we better innovate on that because otherwise we won't, whatever. And then it just kept going and going and going. And that's how this movie feels to me. And when it came out, it was like, This is just fine. Yeah, barely. And I mentioned, and I mentioned the reason I could have also... Chinese democracy.

Chinese democracy. Yeah. I was going to say Francis Ford Coppola's Rebel Moon, part three, the master of Megalon, but I figured I'll say Duke Neum forever because it's also an old reference that you have to explain. True. And so much of this is old references.

Yeah. So much of this, it's Romeo, it's Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet. And nobody told him they did that. They did that in the 90s. You might have even seen it. We're not shocked by, I actually went to his list of 10 best, 10 favorite films and it's not on there. And I'm like, well, you wouldn't put it on there if you're going to rip it off, would you? You'd say you'd never seen it. But remember that Richard the Third movie with Ian McKellen,

but it was Richard the Third, but it was also World War II. Like this isn't innovative. No, not at all. The idea of like, well, whatever was New York, but it's also Rome, we've seen that. Yeah, absolutely. It's also, I think, and there's nothing wrong with like taking on stories and like,

not necessarily rehashing things, but building on previous ideas. But yeah, this does doesn't feel like that. It feels tired and it's just presented in a very bizarre package. Yeah. Yeah. Almost. It's almost slapdash, which it couldn't really be also. Well, see, that's the thought. But you said you mentioned earlier and I learned this today as well that some a lot of this, the scenes obviously weren't improv because they built the sets and they did some of the sets and costumes and all that sort of stuff but a lot of the dialogue was in the dial there's a moment where Adam Driver says in the club yeah yeah yeah yeah some of the deliveries were fun oh yeah but it's

also weird because like he is like he's denigrating these people for going to the club and then five minutes later he's drinking and smoking a cigarette like the club but I was to say about the improv dialogue, a lot of the scenes in this movie felt like improv performers when they're not in sync and both of them, and like when you see two improv performers trying to vie for supremacy, like they're both saying they're determined not to listen to their scene partner. I mean, they're just going to say they're doing their doing their own thing. Yes doing their own thing at each other Shia LaBeouf feels like that. Yeah, most of this. Yeah

I mean, he's supposed to be like a thoroughly unpleasant character and he is but like God just very painful stuff from him Yeah, it's not a gang of hoodlums. Oh, and they're just like these foppish kind of like Yeah, they're like Tim Burton Batman Hey, who obviously a ripoff of something else from something foppish kind of like woohoo kind of. Yeah, they're like Tim Burton, Batman, Quidlums, who obviously a rip off of something else from something, you know, whatever. Something else from something, no doubt. Also there's a moment where,

cause he goes in direct competition with Adam Driver's character, and he kind of rallies the people against him. And it's like, well actually he is like in doing, in building the city, he is oppressing people. And he is like, you know, he's knocking down their houses he's not listening to anybody and he's right yeah but then at the end he's wrong just wrong because he builds the city and guess what it's great yeah and everyone was wrong and he was ready

didn't murder his wife and he was shot in the head but he's fine yeah he's totally better now his brains probably better There's a moment where, because he loves kids. If you haven't seen this, boy. Oh boy. There's a moment where, so Adam Dweller's character loves kids, and he loves like conversing with kids. And that's how Natalie Emanuel's character. I mean, do we know that or it's just?

It's been said, because that's how she gets to meet him, because she tells him that she's a sixth grader that he met the previous week, and so he lets her up. And so there's this kid who goes to him in the car and gets him to sign a book and they're like, oh, you know, Adam Driver's character, he never refuses, he loves talking to kids or whatever. And then the kid shoots him directly like point blank through the head. But luckily he just doesn't die for quite a long time.

He has megalopolis powers and so he gets his face repaired But initially... But to be clear, just to be clear though, it's because the doctors have been given some megalon Yeah, which is a miracle material and they can use it to rebuild his head and brain. Yes. He didn't use his time stop ability No, he didn't. At all. No. I don't know about you, but if I had time stop powers, I'd be ready in a moment's notice Yeah, absolutely. I'd use it for a bunch of stuff. If I were a guy trying to build a Wonderful city or whatever. Yeah, I'd be like time stop now We'll build the city and then I'll untimestop and everybody would see that I'm right So like I don't know if they're even real in this movie

Is it like metaphorical because he's always talking about time. It's a fable James. It's a fable So there is a moment where he's like, when you're an artist and blah blah blah actually it seems like time stops Yeah, but that's what I mean. Yeah, it's a fable though. So any criticism we have of it is irrelevant I don't have any criticism. That's terrific because we're back in the sponsor back in the sponsor I love Megalopolis. It's a good movie. Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis a fable. You might have heard some people say it's nonsense or and a flop Yeah, maybe recently even some people might call it Megaflopolis. They might. Yeah not us though. They might say it's a big pile of crap. Anyway we're out

of this we're out of the sponsor segment. Anyway back to Megaflopolis. A big pile of crap. Oh. Charlie Ashai is in this. That was kind of like her. Also Adam Driver's mum hates him, thinks he's the devil, but then she doesn't. Then at the end she does the Mad Max walks away from the citadel bit where she just walks away in the crowd with a wry smile on her face like she always knew you could do it. I always knew you could do mega love voice. There's a moment quite early on where, this is unrelated to any of that, but there's a moment where Adam Driver is talking to one of his underlings and he says something along the lines of,

oh what if the thing that carried the charge could also store the charge? And the guy's like, oh that's genius. I'll go off and do that. Great. It's good stuff. Yeah, because he's an ideas man. Well yeah, because if you go into his... That guy wouldn't have thought of that. The engineer guy wouldn't have thought of that. No, never. Because you go into the workshop and it's nothing. It's buckets. Buckets and kids and gymnastics. But then you go through it and you imagine it. Yeah, then you imagine it, then it's something.

You just got to think about it. It's the lava lamp city. Exactly. There's a moment where he's driving through the older parts of... Adam driving. Adam driving through the older parts of New York City, sorry, New Rome. And there's a moment where there's a statue of Lady Justice and she like, slumps against the wall. She gets all sad. She falls over. And there's a couple more of them.

I'm like, wow, look at that go. Oh, wow. Look at this symbolism. Pretty good. Pretty good. Oh, yeah. What is going on with his wife? Because his wife is dead. Yes. And she might be stored in the Megalopolis equipment. She might be in the Megalopolis equipment. She might be in the Megalon. Because then when Natalie, Emmanuel's character goes to...

Is it Julie? I think it's Julie. Yeah, whatever. He visits his wife in like a mausoleum thing. And he's like braiding her hair and she's asleep. But then she's not really there. But then she, Julia follows him in and she's not there. And he just, she, and then she just. And she drove off a bridge because. But anyway, I was gonna say.

We had too many ideas. But Natalie Emanuel goes into the room. Ellie Emanuel goes in the room and all she sees is Adam Driver standing by a bed and he goes, oh. He loves his wife. He still loves his wife, oh. She's like appalled.

Yeah. Like, I don't know. Yeah. I don't think she got the right scene instructions. No, it seems that way. She might have been looking at something else. But it's even weird that like, because I can't remember specifically, but it's very vague about why she drove off the cliff. Oh, it's because they got into an argument about something.

Yeah, he did too many ideas. He did too many good ideas, I think. He probably said, you know, the thing that carries the charge could also hold the charge. And was like how dare you I'm gonna drive driving this bridge come and get me yeah there's a moment where after Adam driver is shot in the face yes and he's got like a bandage on he's I mean he's sort of okay he's like yeah does that he gets his accounts frozen and he goes to the bank and he's like my accounts have been frozen and he takes off his fucking the bandage.

Yes. And it's this like mess-ionic moment of everybody gets to look at his megalopolis. His golden head. His golden head that he's got. Then I'm like, oh wow, is he going to be like for the rest of this, is this going to be the rest of the movie? No. No, next scene is fine.

His eyes are growing back. It's all fine. It is. Yeah, because of Megalop. And he had a baby. Which we don't see. We don't see the birth of the baby. No. A weird thing to cut out if you're leaving all the rest And he had a baby. Yeah, which we don't see. We don't see the birth of the baby.

No. A weird thing to cut out if you're leaving all the rest of this in. Sure. Yeah. And then, so, go on. Anyway, so, Aubrey Plaza's character and Shia LaBeouf's character. Ralph Platinum. Thank you.

And something else. Some awful man. Some other guy, yeah. They are conspiring to, because she ends up marrying John Voight because he owns the bank. Yeah, that's right. He's the money man. And he loves Adam Driver. He loves Caesar. But Shiloh Butts hates that because he's the best.

And he's the best designer and he's always right. And so they conspire to take over the bank. And in doing so, he has a stroke or pretends to have a stroke. Yeah. And then he's lying in bed and then they come in. He's like, look at my boner. This is real, okay? They come in and they're like, oh, we'll get one over him because he's had a stroke, but

he's pretending. Yeah. And he goes, ah, so many lives or whatever, I don't know. I'm never going to die. Look at, he says, what do you think of this boner I got? Yeah. And you look down and it looks like he has a giant pointed boner. But he's also dressed as Robin Hood.

He was at a party. So then he takes off the cloth and he's holding a tiny bow and arrow. And it's very small. And he uses it to shoot Aubrey Plaza through the chest and kills her. And as Shia LaBeouf runs out He shoots him in the bus two times with an arrow. Yeah, but he escapes and he's like No one's gonna stop me from being a banker. I'm gonna I leave all my money to Adam Driver's character Because he's the best and then he can build his megalopolis and then Shia LaBeouf gets strung up in front of an American dollar bill or whatever

Oh, yeah, he's always turn on him. They turn on him. Just because he was like, these guys are uneducated and they suck and I hate them. Yeah. I'm using them. Yeah, and it's this thing of like, I believe in Caesar, Megalopolis and all the work that he's doing and I'm a money man but I understand great creativity. Yeah, that's right. And so at the end when it's revealed that the city, or people are at the walls of the

city being like, we hate you Adam Driver Driver, but he does a speech. And then the, you know, the curtain comes down. They go, Oh, this is great. Oh, no, what part of media hits? Oh yeah. And at one point of media hits. Oh, no, it's the Russian satellite. It's that Soviet satellite. Yeah. And everyone seems distressed, including Adam Driver, but it's also the thing that he clearly wanted. And then it crashes down and there's some, some it's fine, it's fine mostly. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah. And there's the one point where he, the moment where he is, whether somebody asked

him the question off screen and he said, and they say something like, do you think it'll be dangerous when the satellite crashes down and kills everybody? And he's like, you know what? Love is important actually. Love's important. And also to be good if we all had a conversation. Yeah. I can't remember where, but there's a one point he's like, you know,

what would be the best? A con everyone having a conversation. I think that would be good. That's as good as doing anything. Doing it. Yeah. It's probably better. Yeah.

Ideas. Ideas are good. Aren't they? Coming from a man who's never taken on an idea of another person, by the way, both the person who made this movie and the character. Yeah. But it's also at the end, because when they build the city and it's revealed, there is this kind of, I thought they were going to be like,

well, what are the implications of such a world? Like building this new, like, utopia on top of an existing kind of, not only like literal structure, but also previous political structures. And the implication ends up being nothing. It's the best thing that's ever happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he did it. There was no downsides.

It's just those people should have gotten out of his way. Yeah, get out of his way. Just get out. You should have. And he freezes time at the end, but it all freezes for everybody except his baby. And then that's the end. It's the end, yeah. Which is the baby means...

You skipped a few things, I think. Have we? I don't know. I don't know know is this making sense. Is this real? I did watch this incredibly jet lag. Yeah. No, I watched it. I watched it after work Yeah, and it was my result was the same so I've seen people say on Twitter if you didn't like this That's probably because you're too used to Marvel movies in there though Well that just happened and you know, you don't it's actually very funny and very good and I mean it is funny Not intentionally. Maybe when John Boyd was sitting in that little Robin Hood outfit that's a bone. Oh, that was very for it

Yeah, oh, that was fun. I like I like I've seen people go. Well, if you don't love this Well, it's probably cuz you you just love you know This is a real antidote to your your franchises in your IPs and blah blah blah And I'm like that is the weakest like false dichotomy. I've ever heard like there's not Fairly predictable You know marvelled superhero movie, then nothing and then wildly over budget. Yeah. Like nonsense vanity project. Yeah. And nothing in between. Exactly. Like you didn't say the substance yet. No, I really want to. I

saw it a couple of weeks ago. We mentioned we talked about it on the Alien Romulus episode. But like that's a great example of a recent movie that is about stuff. Yes. So it's about, you know, it's about, you know, people's expectations of, you know, women's beauty and aging and fame and the fading of fame and all this sort of stuff.

But it's also really funny and like fresh and visceral. Yeah. And it's- Didn't cost $120 And it didn't cost $120 million. And it's got like a central conceit that makes like the mechanics of it make perfect sense. So you can have both of those things. You can have a funny movie. You're saying you can make good movies. I'm saying you can make good movies. There's a movie about what kind of future you're leaving behind and maybe you thought

you wasted your life, but actually if you present some wisdom to the next generation, that's actually good enough. It's called Logan. And it's a really good movie. It's a, you know. I mean, it's not Deadpool and Wolverine. No, that's very true. But that's also a cracking action movie.

The original Soderbergh, and I know I keep hammering on about this, but the original Ocean's Eleven. Here we go. It's about... Here we bloody go. It's about making a movie. Yeah. Because you need a guy with a bunch of good ideas, but you also need a good crew behind

you. You need other people with good ideas. And you need to have fun, and etc. That movie's been made already. And it might come together. Yeah. But this time it didn't. Yeah, but that's also a great funny action movie. Yes. It mostly makes sense. Yeah. But this one doesn't. You're saying it's crap.

Megaflopolis. Am I saying Megaflopolis is a big crap movie? I think I am. Yeah, I think I'm doubling down on that and saying I think it's bad. I think. I think if you like film and enjoying, like you said this, and you enjoy having conversations about film with people, then yeah, this is worth checking out. Right. I think- Did you like the bit where Adam Driver, it's on the poster, but where he holds up his big T-square- And it lights up.

And it lights up and it's like, creativity, you know? Yeah, I remember. Do you like all the weird scene transitions? Yeah, I liked it how he also just hung out in the sky a bunch. Yeah, I don't know what that was even. What do you think this movie needed? I think it needed an editor. I think it needed a guy to tell Francis Ford Coppola No a bunch of times. I think it looks bad for a lot of it. Yeah, not exclusively Because I think it's like inconsistent in it's just inconsistent It's like inconsistent in it's just inconsistent It's wildly inconsistent across the board from like casting to performances to the way it looks to the story structure to the dialogue

It's just it's just so scattershot. It's baffling. Yeah, but also think it's not baffling in a way That's like God. It makes you think yeah, it's just stupid. Yeah, it's it because the the The premise of this movie or the through line it's not stupid it's not stupid the premise of this movie is that if you just let a guy alone he'll make a perfect yeah a perfect thing that works for everybody well this but it doesn't know it's reason maybe it can it needed a guy to come in maybe you know what annoys me about this movie mmm many things I also thought about leaving a couple of times oh wow is rare for me It needed a guy to come in, maybe, you know what annoys me about this movie? Many things.

I also thought about leaving a couple of times. Oh wow. Which is rare for me. Yeah. Sit through almost anything. Yeah. It felt longer than it was. Yeah.

It's only really two hours if you take away the credits. Yeah. But it's boy it feels long. Yeah. What annoys me about this movie is it's got sci-fi elements, me about this movie is it's got sci-fi elements by sci-fi fantasy elements by someone who doesn't really know anything about that sort of stuff and it's just like yeah whatever it's easy don't worry about it. It's not but it's not is it? No. Because we never learned the origin. No you're right. We never learned that we never and again you can you can you can hand wave it by going it's a

fable but it's like you need a guy to be like okay Megalon what is it yeah where does it come from are you creating it from your mind no he invented it when his wife fell off a bridge is it rare is it abundant when his wife fell off a bridge she did that's true he did think of it when he's in floats it should be called why fell off a bridge don't you think i think it should be called that fellow for Bridgium. Don't you think? I think it should be called that. Yeah. Yeah. You need, is it, because there's no,

and I understand we sort of falling into like, like more action, you know, more mainstream action movie tropes with this, but surely you'd be like, okay, is it, is it, is it, like it is, is it in a reservoir of some sort sort is it in a container? Can somebody take it? Yeah, can somebody use it is you can someone else make it? Are you the only person who can control it? Yeah, give me something and then because it's all just people going up to him

and going on, I'm gonna take everything from you. Well, you haven't. Yeah. Okay. Well, we tried didn we? And I got shot in the bottom with an arrow. You need somebody to be like, why can't he just go time stop before the kid shoots him in the head? I don't understand. I don't know. Why didn't he go time stop before those theater guys beat him up? Yeah. I don't know. There's also like Giancarlo Esposito's character was the father of the woman that falls in love with him. He's the mayor of the city, but he was also the prosecutor in the prosecutor for killing his wife. Yeah, because it's implied that maybe he killed his wife. He didn't. Yeah, but then he's like you find out later on that he actually falsified some evidence to make it look like because

Giancarlo Esposito. Yeah, to make it look like Adam Driver did murder his wife and it was like well listen I'll give you this information if you just leave my daughter alone, like step away. And then at the end he's just like, and I did, that's all right, because I do love her. I mean, I've never, I'm completely cold and I'm feeling, but I do. And then yeah, at the end he's like, actually you did a good thing. This is a good city. Again, it just completely like, yeah, you're right. I don't know.

And it's like, there's no reason that they, like if he's got this miracle material and he can like, he can rebuild his own brain with it. Why does nobody trust him? There's no, they just don't trust him because he's a creative guy. Is that what it is? Yeah, it doesn't.

Surely there should be some element of like, well, isn't this, maybe it's radioactive. Maybe it's whatever. Like nobody is. There's one question where someone's like, is it dangerous? And he's like, no, I love though. What if you had a big conversation? Think about it.

Yeah. Like if, if there were, if he was building stuff with it and they're like, well, there's some safety concerns or whatever. And you'd understand that, but it's just, it's a thing that always, it always does exactly what you want it to do. And it always works. I made a big leaf. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh, worst movie ever. I think it was the worst movie ever. Fascinating though. But I don't even know if I would recommend you see it in a cinema. No, don't pay money. I paid $49. God you went gold class. Well I had to. That was the only set. And that has an effect on my review. I'm just saying. I'm just saying man. It's the the price. And I bought a little pizza. It wasn't very good. But I did pay $49 and that's a lot of money for a movie ticket. That's embarrassing.

For me? Yeah I know. I wish I could have seen an earlier one but it didn't work out. I paid regular price. That's why I had a good time. Some reviews people sent in. Russell Michaels says Megalopolis is an ambitious film. It doesn't reach the highest heights but it's a spectacle for the eyes. Some actors I didn't expect most definitely best movie ever. Alexis Gentry, people might know from those Instagrams

and posts, who's fantastic. She said, I think 90% of people are going to hate this movie, but I kind of liked it. As James said, a big swing from a lunatic. I do like the big swing from a lunatic element of this. James Bailey says, this is one of the most baffling films I've ever watched. Baffling's a great word for it. I'm lost for words. Justin Potter says I loved it. You're never going to see epic filmmaking like this again. I hope not. See, but that's like, and I look, I agree. That is true. Yeah.

But that's because they're not going to let anybody because nobody else is going to have $120 million. Well, that's true. Maybe James Cameron, but he's making movies. He's not going to make this. No, he's making movies that look incredible and structurally are not mind boggling, but they work perfectly in the medium of cinema. You know what I mean? And people are going to come back and recommend it to their friends.

Unironically. I think this could have been something really, really good. If he hadn't gone, I'm gonna make, I genuinely think he was like, I'm gonna make it like this to show all the naysayers wrong. Well, he showed us. Yeah, he sure showed us. Because we were naysaying him. Yeah, that's right, yeah.

Brad Hendrickson said, what in the cinnamon toast shit did I just watch? What was any of that supposed to be? 100% the worst movie ever and the worst movie of the year. Holy shit. And Nicole Lee said, I had to Google the 100% the worst movie ever and the worst movie of the year. Holy shit. And Nicole Lee said, I had to Google the plot of the movie after watching it. Like I get the overall idea of it,

but there was some absolute baffling moments that I couldn't make heads or tail of. What an absolutely blithering, nonsensical, overwrought, indulgent, grandiose mess. Have we seen a worst movie this year? Well, we don't see everything. No, that's true. We don't. Maybe not.

Now you'd famously did not like the movie The Crow. What's worse? This. There you go. But this is more interesting than The Crow. I suppose it is. Yeah. Again, I think it's interesting.

Yeah. But it's not good. No. Yeah. Well, he's done, I think. That's probably it. It's just Ford Coppola. Well, wrapping it up.

Yeah. Unless he goes to Netflix. And give him, they give him a hundred million dollars to do a Megalopolis. No one's giving this dude a hundred. You don't have to sell another winery, man. All right. Should we move it along? Let's move it along.

To? What we reading? Oh, what we gonna read? Oh, big segment. I'm doing a thing. You know what I wish? Go on. I wasn't so fucking jet lagged during that discussion. I understand. I wanted to, I feel like I didn't quite convey. Yeah, right?

Yeah. It's, I mean. How silly it was. Yeah, you're not gonna, you know, you're not gonna wake up tomorrow and go. Also, I saw it today. I would have liked to like a week to just sit on it. Yeah, you only had a day and I like... But only, again, I just got back, so...

I mean... I don't think I would have said anything more insightful. No, I mean, if anything, the only... how this is gonna go for me is it's gonna go Matrix sequel style, where years later I go, oh, there was a little more in it than I thought. Yeah. But I'm not gonna come to that realization tomorrow. No. Tomorrow I'm going to be like, oh yeah more in and then than I thought. Yeah, but I'm not going to come to that realization tomorrow. No, tomorrow I'm going to be like, oh, yeah, I paid $49 for that. Yeah.

And I got a little pizza and it wasn't even very good. I brought my own little pizza. What are you reading? Oh, what am I reading? What are you bringing? And what did you watch? Well, this is the section of the show where we talk about, oh no, Mason. Oh no.

Oh no, it's midnight. It's the witching hour. It is. Speaking of witches, we'll get to that in a minute. Yeah. But a couple of things that I watched that were unrelated that you probably didn't Oh no. Oh no. It's midnight. It's the witching hour. It is. Speaking of witches, we'll get to that in a minute. Yeah. But a couple of things that I watched that were unrelated that you probably didn't watch. I watched Drive Away Dolls.

It was a great film. It's got Margaret Coley in it. And it's from one of the Coen brothers. Oh, okay. It's a kind of a fun road crime movie. I like this cast. Yeah, yeah. I didn't watch it at the cinemas.

I don't think you got a wide release in Australia. What's on Fox Down? Yeah, it's on something. Yeah, it didn't watch it at the cinemas. I don't think you got a wide release in Australia. What's on Fox Down? Yeah, it's on something. Yeah, it's on Fox Down right now, apparently. Like right now, on the regular TV. Yeah. That's great. I've been watching it in the other room.

Cool, okay. And I also watched Equalizer 3. Three equalizer? Three equalizer, yeah. How was it? It's good, man. Did you use a hammer? No, he did pinch a guy's nerve in his wrist, though.

Damn, that's good. I don't think I saw two equalizer. But I do enjoy, I did enjoy first equalizer. But I've never seen equalizer the TV series either. The original one? No, that and the new series. The new one, right. Isn't it weird that there's two equalizer, there's two pieces of equalizer media running

simultaneously. It's good. Do you think they'll have a meat equalizer? No. The meat equalizer? Oh, that's meat equalizer. Yeah. It's good. Do you think they'll have a meat? No. Equalizer? No. The meat equalizer? Oh that's meat equalizer. Yeah it's really good I wasn't aware that the equalizer movies were also directed by Anton Fuqua who did Training Day. Oh I like Training Day. And I also didn't know the reason I watched Equalizer 3 is I didn't know it was the first re-teaming of Denzel Washington and Dakota Fanning. Oh. Since Man on Fire. Oh yeah, of course.

Well speaking of re-teaming, Charlotte Buff and John Voight from the first Transformers movie. Oh hell yeah. Hell yeah brother, finally. Hell yeah brother. Finally. Anyway, equalizer's very good.

He settles down in a little town in Italy. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's mafia guys and he's gotta kill the mafia. Well he hasn't got it, he's like, can you please not do mafia stuff in this little town, cause I like it. Yeah. I will do the equalizer on you

I'm gonna do a lot of and they're like we do you mean the movie or the TV series or the original series? They said the movies. Yeah directed by Anton Fuqua. Oh good. You did training. They mustn't have seen them. Yeah, that's right Because they're quite popular. Yeah, yeah, maybe they didn't get a wide release in Europe. Yeah Anyway, you can you know, there's a reason Denzel's a movie star. Yeah, he's got he's got he's got the source this guy He's finally he's an older guy and it's partly direction, but like you believe that this guy Yeah, yeah, you know, there's a moment in it where he's like, you know the at the start where he's kind of so He's on a somewhat related mission, you know before the real movie starts and he's surrounded by guys and there's a moment way They're like, you know last words or whatever and he's like you know

I'm you've got you know you've got nine seconds to live or whatever yeah and he gives him a little you know this guy's a little too close so you know he's the first one to go I feel bad for his family yeah straight up kills them all wait a lot of fun I will watch two and then three but I bet things we both watched we both watched the first couple episodes of Agatha all along and the first episode of the Penguin. I watched three? The Penguin James. No, I watched three of Agatha. Have you watched three? I've only watched the two. Very good. I think it's a little slow. I talked about this in one of the live shows, but it does that thing of like, it's in a TV show. Oh yeah, it's not a real TV show. We've done this already.

It's WandaVision. But then when you get out of that, it becomes much more interesting. And she's great. I think so too, yeah. She's so much fun. And look, I mean, it's interesting that, you know, this is a full series that is based around a very minor Marvel comic book character who was a supporting character slash villain in the first big Marvel MCU TV series from many years ago. Like it's such a tangential character and a concept to be given its entire, you know, given an entire show.

But it's, you know, it's fun. It's worth it. Good, good, good supporting cast, I think. I think Jackson said this when a long way, Jackson Bailey. Oh yeah, best friends are you? Best friend, good friend of mine. That can forgive a lot of the Marvel stuff, especially if there's a really compelling lead.

And I think this is compelling outside of the lead, but also Catherine Hart is terrific in this. Really good, really funny. She can do drama, she can do comedy, she's got it all. Yeah, and then as well, you know for slight spoiler for the first episode You know Allah one division where they were all trapped in, you know, various eras of sitcom. Yeah, this show starts out She's in Merovese town. Yeah, she's in a like a like a Sad very polite. I didn't love that because I think again, you know what it is Right and the procedural itself wasn't very interesting Like, you know, they're like when she gonna kind of snap out of it. Yeah, and again when that happened then I was like, okay

Right here we go. And I enjoyed episode 3 as well, which I want to pull for you here the penguin though Yeah, so Fantastic. It felt like that could have been it just Just the one episode. Like it just like really contained. It was like a movie. It was like a movie, compelling. Colin Farrell was terrific. He's got his own little penguin helper running around with him. I thought it was just terrific.

You know what he's from? The Runaways. Oh, I've never seen the Runaways. Oh, did I see something? Two shows with, actually there's a bunch. Is there a dinosaur in that? There was a dinosaur in the original comic books. I can't remember. I think a dinosaur in the original comic books.

I think there is in the show as well. Here's a couple of things we've not watched. Maybe we should do some episodes on at some point. We didn't watch The Runaways. We didn't watch Cloak and Dagger. We didn't watch... Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. mostly. We didn't mostly watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Also... Inhumans? No, the Hell one. Hellstrom oh Disney plus we should watch some of those I'm busy but alright yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah watch it Agatha roll along I'm pretty maybe there'll be some links to Hellstrom and I get the roll along I don't think there will be no one pay their absolutely anything Fisto's gonna shop yeah it's kind of the thing where maybe anyway the pain the penguin is great yeah he Yeah, he's...

Colin Farrell hated the suit by the end. But really like... I don't think I've ever seen somebody so unrecognizable in like prosthetics and performance. I just don't think I would pick it. If I didn't know. And it's great because the episode itself is, you know,

he's trying in a small way to, you know, he's trying in a small way to reestablish some cred in this world and it goes off the rails immediately. The entire first episode is just him trying to fix a terrible in the moment mistake he's made. I think that's also really interesting because he's clearly like, he's not very intelligent because there's a lot of much more intelligent people who live within Gotham. He's not charismatic or good looking enough to coast. So he just has to just compulsively lie his way and swindle and just kind of grub his

way. Right. So his way of operating in the world, which he has learned as a survival technique, is I think very interesting. Yeah. Like he's not the best. Right. He's one of many.

Yeah. And everybody hates him. And yet he's got a very likable. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah. There's the moment where he buys a sandwich for the kid and he's like, oh, an extra pickles. They only gave me one. they only gave me two pickles. So normal pickles is one pickle.

And he's really, you know, he's good. Bit of fun. Should we move it along then? Let me think, anything else about the penguin? The Batman's apparently not in it. Wow. That's what they've been saying.

Well, so that doesn't say it doesn't mean Bruce Wayne won't be in it. Wow. I didn't know you knew comic book lore, Mason. That's right, yeah. I would have asked you about that earlier if I knew. Batman's friend, Bruce Wayne. Oh yes.

That's right, yeah. Very good. Alright, let's just bloody get on with it then shall we? Oh, that's right. We'll come back to that though. We'll come back to both of those. Not next week because we're going to talk about bloody that thing that we love. That's exactly right.

The Joker 2. Anyway, time for letters. Yay! I'm going to bring 2. Anyway, time for letters. Yay! I'm gonna bring up the letters, here it goes. The classic one was, the letters, the letters, we love you. Did you miss this?

The letters, they're only here to take my way. We're now here right now, we're gonna do letters. We went to London with letters, and Joel, though she was lucky enough to have the honor of doing the letters thing. That's wonderful. I should have sprung it on him though. I shouldn't have told him beforehand. So you got that letter thing ready that we talked about?

Oh, I've just remembered. Megalopolis is probably better than Borderlands. Oh, there we go. Yes, you're right. Yeah, that is true. That movie sucks. That's a horrible movie. Yeah, I mean, that is, I mean if you were... I think that's how he sees like Marvel movies or whatever. Yeah, I think if you were presented with the choice of like movies like Megalopolis Forever or movies like Borderlands, it'd be Megalopolis Forever.

Which is now. Which one if you had to re-watch one of them right now, which would you watch? Megalopolis. Because there's no more to be gathered from another view of your borderlands. But I might... There's also, did you notice there's a moment where somebody very obviously flubs a line in Megalopolis and they keep it in. I think I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember.

So Natalie Emanuel's character has some friends and they're like, there's three women in the back. Yeah, and there's a moment where one of them says something and then there's a long pause Yeah, and then she just says that she rephrases the same thing again And it's very like it's it's it's very obviously a flood line and he kept it in It's good, isn't it? It's pretty good Anyway, if you want to if you want to email this you can go to weekly planet pot at gmail.com. Absolutely you can Or hashtag weekly planet pot on Twitter. That's great. Absolutely you can. Or hashtag weeklyplanapod on Twitter.

Which look, it may be a dying platform, but you know. It's good to be back. It's good to be back. On emails. Yeah. I got this one from AJ Volanta. He says, hashtag weeklyplanapod. It'll be fun if you all watch the Studio Ghibli movies.

James shared his expertise on all things anime with Mace. James sharing his expertise on all things anime with Mace. Or something his expertise on all things anime with Mace. So, or something evergreen like the Don Bluth animated movies. Stay prayed up. We will. We will. I recently watched my first with my kids. It was, how's the one about they go to the hotel or whatever? Hotel Transylvania. Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. It's terrific. Adam Sandler gives a stunning performance. What is it? Which is that one? They go to the weird ghost hotel. Spirit of the Oil? Yes. Yeah. I loved it. It's a good one. It's incredible. You know, in an interesting twist of fate, James, you're not gonna believe this, but a few years ago it was like, oh, all the Studio Ghibli stuff is gonna be on Netflix.

And I just looked it up. It's still on there somehow. Because normally how the curse works is we mention it. We go, we should watch those and then they disappear off all the streaming platforms forever. You should watch Porco Rosso, which is about a pig and he's a World War One flying ace. How to become a pig? It's not important. I just looked and it's gone now. Yes, that's right. Oh, also speaking of curses, somebody mentioned, someone emailed us in a while back. I think we talked about the Ocean's Eleven movies a while back because we always do. And we said, I think I said Elliot Gould is dead. Oh the reason I would have said that James James

Yeah, because if we were to say he's alive. He'd die. Yeah, because that's how this podcast works. So he's not alive. He's dead Okay, yeah, I agree yeah, I'm Schroding is Elliot's he's shrooding is Elliot's gould. God bless him. He's neither alive nor dead currently. Yeah. He's in the Megalon. He's in the Megalon. The in-between zone. That's exactly right. Which is a thing that maybe can do we don't know. I agree. Yeah. Here's an email from Nick Lake. Nick Lake. Hey James and Mason from England. First of all big thank you to you both for all the shows and videos you've done. I've listened for many years now and last week I had the pleasure of seeing James in Birmingham.

I was there. It was great to be surrounded by so many fans and we, my wife Alicia and I got chatting to a couple from Livingston, Scotland who we got along so well with and it would have been great to stay in touch. Can you give a big shout out to Connor and Katie who will be listening to the show? Connor and Katie, check, go in the great mates group or whatever. They're probably all there. Can't wait to see you back in the UK with Mason in tow.

Or maybe. Maybe that might happen. I hope spring's eternal. That's right. Maybe we're back there next week. Just kidding. Oh, you don't want to do that? No.

I just got back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think I can to be honest. I want to do my solo tour. We've got, we're going to do a different podcast next week. We're doing those, those live shows. Yeah, we're doing so many shows. Yeah.

But then after that. Do you have the taste for live stuff now? Do you love doing live stuff? I do. I really, really enjoyed it. It was awesome. But also after next week, I'm going to need to lay low for a bit just to reach out. Because of all the crimes you did during live shows. That's right. I feel good and I feel like I could keep doing it. Yeah. But also know that I should stop before I'm like, I hate this. Because when the tour ended, I was like, I could probably do a couple more, but I think that's a

good time to stop. I heard you brought listeners on stage and you played Russian roulette with them. Yep. The deer. Yeah we killed several of them. Wow. Well I forgot because you're supposed to take out some of the bullets. Yeah. And I worked that out in probably the fifth show. Yeah yeah yeah. I mean they loved it. People just love getting involved. They do don't they? I got shot in the bloody ear. I got shot in the show. I'm dead. Yeah. Anyway, it was awesome meeting so many people. Because weird, because as I've said to a few people there, but nobody cares here. Nobody cares at all. And then you go into it. And then

you're behind a door and there's nobody there who knows you. And then you open the door and there's like 400 people and they know. It's just very bizarre. And they all boo you. They booed me so much, Mason. We ended the show with a boo, which by the way, feels great. I agree. You should definitely do that. Highly recommend. You know what feels good generally in a live setting? Yeah. Set up a chant for just some guy. Somebody. Just pick one guy and be like, we're all going to chant for him.

It's good fun. You can make it me even. Yeah. What's next, Mason? Another email. Oh yeah. That's right. This is from Samuel. Samuel. I love the podcast and the content you guys create.

We love to create content. We do it. That's true. I understand that everyone on the Weekly Planet has a black belt in certain fighting discipline. Yep. And wondered if you'd like to share your thoughts on the movies and culture of the martial arts genre.

I adore martial arts films from classics like Enter the Dragon, 80s Magic, like Bloodsport, to the more full-on action films like The Raid. I even love the So Bad It's Good flicks like Samurai Cop, Miami Connection. If you want to come to my tournament of martial arts you'll each have to send me a video of destroying bricks with your bare hands. Every black belt can do it so you should have no problem. Easy. That's from Samuel. I've destroyed all my bricks. I'd have to get some more. I was gonna say, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Martial arts movies? Yeah, I like them. I wouldn't say there's a particular genre or era that I'm fond of. It's not my thing, honestly. Yeah, but I do like them. Yeah, I mean, I think it is... I mean, it's an era that... I mean, it's an era that,

it's the era of, it's a certain era that can't come back just because there's too many safety protocols now. Like it's a beautiful era. There's a bunch of Twitter accounts that just do post clips of like old martial arts movies from the 80s and 90s and et cetera. And there's ones that do like Hong Kong era and like all the martial arts movies

Michelle Yeoh was in from that era. And there's just some do like Hong Kong era and like all the martial arts movies Michelle Yeoh was in from that era And there's just some insane stuff. Oh, yeah, where it's again. It's astounding. No one died Yeah, I would love to again. It's it's it is difficult to get them now Yeah, at least you know like on on back. We're just naming movies. We like them Cool. Yeah, yeah, I think I need to watch more of the classic stuff though. You know, like you Bruce Lee and then like, you know, your stuff like the Hong Kong cinema from like the 80s. And, you know, I think I need to do more research. Rumble in the Bronx. Rumble in the Bronx. But again, there is a bunch of stuff on Tubi. That's right. Just free. Yeah, it is free. This one Benson made, he says

hashtag Whitney Planet Pod. So glad I got to see you live in Birmingham. Thank you so much. I should have hung around, but the drive. Oh, I didn't. I basically shot through after that one anyway. So you would have hung around for nothing. Tell me so about the idea of humanizing the rock. Okay, I'll just quickly do this.

So on the last show, you know that we did a plumbing the Death Star topic. And that topic was, how would you humanize the rock? Joel had the idea to shrink him down, give him the lengthening surgery but in reverse. Okay, he's the same but he's little. Okay, yeah, he's compact. Yeah, he's compact, right? So then he's more like he's not the biggest man in the world, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's more relatable because he's a small human being.

Like the pebble. Yeah, that's right. Jackson had the idea to pretend you kill him with a rock and then three days later he returns and then you say he's the Messiah. Yeah, that would fix his ego problem. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had the idea that you, and it was kind of long and involved, but basically you leave

him on an island and you tell him it's for a reality show where the rock survives an island and you give him all these human growth hormones and all these protein powders and whatever he needs. He doesn't need anything, James. He just needs, you got a coconut tree, you got to exercise. Exactly, so he has all that stuff stashed away. So there's cameras there but there's nobody there and he's just having the time of his life. And then after a month when you're supposed to come get him, nobody comes. And then in the distance you set off an explosion that looks like a nuclear

bomb. The cameras go dark but they're still running. He thinks he's alone. And then in the distance you set off an explosion that looks like a nuclear bomb. Okay, sure. The cameras go dark, but they're still running. He thinks he's alone. And then you watch him slowly unravel. Now he's not dying because there's plenty of food, but he deflates because he runs out of his supplements. You think so? Yes.

Oh, you think he maybe wouldn't stay fit, you think he'd stay fit for the cannibals? No, there's literally nobody there. So you watch his hair grow out, what kind of hair pattern is he working with? Okay, sure. You know, he's stripped down to his core. And then after a few months, you just go get him. And you just, and you see what he's like. I don't think he'd deflate.

I think he'd be like, I've got to survive this universe. I'm going to stay big. No, because he's going to start rationing out his food. That's true. Yeah. Anyway, and then I think you come back and I've got to survive this universe. I'm gonna know because he's got to start rationing out his food I that's true Yeah Anyway, and then I think you come back and you've got a relatable story and people might be like isn't that cruel? To torture the rock and set him on an island and have him think the world has ended. He'll be right Yeah, exactly. And if mr. Beast can poison children, yeah, why can't we do this? That's exactly. I think it's fine Yeah, I did you see there was an interview with Sean Evans from Hot Ones? Yeah, I mentioned this. This is how we

come up with the topic. Yeah, for people who don't know, who said they've always wanted to get the Rock on Hot Ones, but the Rock's team was like, does he have to eat chicken wings? Can he eat grilled salmon strips? No. Come on, man. Eat the chicken. I mean, what is, you know, how much is 10 bites of chicken gonna cost you? You're enormous. Yeah, right? Yeah.

Crazy. Yeah. Settle it, come on man. Are you afraid, does he ever, is he afraid of chicken? He might be afraid of chicken. I think also at this point, he needs that show more than they need him, honestly. Right.

Like genuinely. Yeah, maybe. Anyway, that's all my letters. You got any more? Yes. Here's one from Callum. Callum? Hey guys, long time fan from England. I'm from there. You were there recently. Been listening since my last year in primary school and I'm now

about to start my final year of biochemistry at Cambridge. I heard that a lot in person. It was very upsetting. Yeah, Cambridge, right? Not Cambridge. I've been listening since I was four. Yeah, now I'm 44. It's a guy older than me. Ah! I was in a time vortex.

Now I'm so old. After bingeing the series Caravan of Garbage multiple times, has me curious as to what you guys think is the best and worst movie you guys have ever covered. You've covered a lot of classics lately, so I imagine the best would come down to A Terminator, Alien or Indiana Jones. As for the worst, I don't know if anything can beat Son of the Mask, Pixels or the original Ocean's Eleven. God, Son of the Mask is a... that's probably it. What do you think? Because at least Ocean's Eleven is like the original. Like it sucks, but it's... There's a lot to talk about.

It's a very compelling... It is compelling. That's right. Just having a look here. God. The's a very compelling... It is compelling. Yeah. That's right. Just having a look here. Oh god. The Wolverine original... You didn't like Assassin's Creed very much. That is so dull.

That's... I don't like Ghostbusters. Yeah, you wouldn't. I don't like talking about the Ghostbusters movies. Yeah, you wouldn't. You wouldn't. Don't like that one. Just going through Hunger Games.

Yeah, they're fine. Greenhorn is kind of a waste. Yeah. Dick Tracy's not bad. It's just... Yeah. No. Dick Tracy's not bad. It's just... Yeah. No, Dick Tracy was definitely worth it. Yeah.

That was definitely worth a re-watch. Again, to me it is like... Pixels is terrible. And Assassin's Creed, I think for me it might be... Supergirl's terrible. Dungeons and Dragons is terrible. The original one. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. But I mean, Dungeons and Dragons was made with like a god. Well, the killing joke's awful. Oh yeah, that's awful. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But I mean, Dungeons and Dragons was made with all the killing jokes. Oh, yeah, that's awful as well. Yeah. I mean, but Dungeons and Dragons, the budget was like a dollar. Yeah, it's true. I think to me, it's something like an Assassin's Creed. I mean, I would say generally to me, and I get you know, and it is somewhat ironic that we just made fun of a guy for pursuing his passion, his decades long passion project with millions of dollars of his own money.

But like the worst movies besides Megalopolis are the ones that are just designed by committee, have thrown a lot of money at it. Yeah, okay. It doesn't have its own, doesn't feel like anything. And Assassin's Creed to me is that's... Yeah, fair enough. That's up there for sure. What was the one that I said again?

I can't remember. You said Pixels. Oh, Son of the Mask. Son of the Mask. Son of the Mask is probably just the worst movie I up there for sure. What was the one that I said again? I can't remember. You said Pixels. Oh, Son of the Mask. Son of the Mask. Son of the Mask is probably just the worst movie I've watched for this. Like it's not, ugh. Ugh, Mason.

Yeah, ugh is right. Yeah. Ah, anyway, is that everything? That's the whole show. Wow. We're back, baby. People said, people said. We'd never go back.

That's right. What I was thinking of, never go back is late this week because I forgot to send one of the files over to Fidel. It will be up on Monday. We're looking at Jedi Knight, no Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight, which is Mason's favorite game of all time and he knows so much about it. Just kidding, it's me. I know so much about that.

What a great joke. I know. You should have seen me live, Mason. What a twist. You should have seen me up there. Wow. So it was, what am I going to say? Yeah, that's at bigsandwich.co. That's right. If you do want to sign up. Folks, thank you

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