The Weekly Planet - 570 Black Mirror Season 7

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

If everyone could just ignore the dystopian hellscape we're all plunging into for just one second because it's time to for Black Mirror Season 7. It's also time for the news of the week which include...s a potential Star Wars horror project, tariffs and US movie releases in China, A Minecraft Movie controversy, some potentially troubling news for The Batman Part II, the Amazon Tomb Raider series is dead, The Last of Us Season 3 confimed, trailers for Predator: Killer of Killers and Mission Impossible: Final Reckoning plus more! Thanks for listeningNew bonus ep of James & Maso's clickbait show covering the "Best" Action Movies of all Time! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus pods, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coNew Maso guest appearance on Josh Earl's podcast, I'll Be Your Biggest Fan: https://shows.acast.com/four-burners-with-josh-earl/episodes/ill-be-your-biggest-fan-nick-masonPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start05:04 Star Wars Horror Project08:22 China Film Release Bans/Tariffs13:10 Minecraft Movie Cinema Controversy16:04 The Batman 2 Troubles Continue19:49 Tomb Raider Amazon Series Dead22:34 The Last of Us Season 3 Confirmed24:05 Predator: Killer of Killers Trailer26:35 Murderbot Trailer27:41 Mission Impossible: Final Reckoning Trailer31:34 Black Mirror Season 7 Spoiler Review01:12:29 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:18:28 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:02 What a week it's been. What do you say that? We're going to talk about the TV series Black Mirror. It's true. We're going to talk about Novacaine. But then we're like... I was watching Black Mirror and I was like, you know what? A lot of this reflects what's actually happening. It's like we're already there. That's what I was saying to the TV. Interesting. Are you sure you weren't watching the news? The current news? Wow. Yeah. Makes you think, doesn't it? I actually was watching the current news. Wow. I was watching Landline. Oh yeah. Yeah, it was interesting, doesn't it? I actually was watching the current news. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I was watching Landline. Oh yeah. Yeah, it was interesting. Wheat prices. A lot of agriculture stuff. Yeah, that's what I thought. Wow, this really is... Reflecting of society.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah. This is a black mirror. Wheat and wheat. I get ads on Twitter now that are just like thinking about investing in wheat. Are you? I mean, now I am. I wasn't before. Or it's like, here's the...
Starting point is 00:01:43 There is a new agricultural technique. You want to click on this link and find out more about it? And I'm like... You know what it is? You're a man of a certain age. You're thinking about getting back to the land, which you'll never do. I don't think this... Exactly. I might. I'm thinking about taking a day trip to Warrnambool. Does that count? I guess that counts. Yeah, I guess that counts.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I'm going to stop off at Pombo Mart. Well, you should. I think I will. Tell me what's going on there. Crimes, probably. Probably counts. Yeah, yeah, I guess that counts. Yeah. I'm going to stop off at Pombo Mart. Well, you should. I think I will. Tell me what's going on there. Crimes, probably. Probably crimes. Yeah. What an incredible start.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I was going to say we were going to watch the movie Now That It Came, but then we've decided not to do that because we have to leave the house. So maybe next week or never. Or when it comes out, I'm sure. Next week is Sinners. Next week is Sinners. That's true. Yeah, so that's definitely next week.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So that's Ryan Coogler. Yep. Michael B. Jordan. It's Michael B. Jordan again. Michael C. Jordan. Which is two of them. That's a joke. Do you know what I mean by that? No.
Starting point is 00:02:33 When I say it's a joke, do you understand what I'm saying? Not the joke, but do you understand that I was attempting a joke? Oh, I see. No, I do understand that, yes. Okay, good, good, good, good, good, good. I'll give you an A for effort. Thank you. And a Michael C. Jordan for execution.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Appreciate that. Which is second rate. That's fine. Oh, he's better? I don't know yet. We'll have to see it this week. Big news this week though, Mason. We're going to be talking about Star Wars in the world of horror, crossing over.
Starting point is 00:02:57 We're going to be talking about the impact of tariffs on the Hollywood film industry release schedule in China. Oh, somebody's been watching Landline. Yeah, it's true. We're gonna talk about what's going on with the Batman and some, I don't know, just some pretty ordinary news I guess we have to talk about. We don't have to. It's kind of part of it. We're gonna talk about the Amazon Lara Croft Tomb Raider series and what's going on with it. Nothing?
Starting point is 00:03:22 Dead probably. Yeah. At least somebody got some money. It's true. So much money. We're gonna talk at the last of a season three. We've got trailers for Predator Killer of Killers Murder Bot and Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning and then we'll black mirror it. Speaking of if you do want to jump just to that you can go into the time codes below. For now. For now. But maybe in the future there's a
Starting point is 00:03:44 dystopian future where you have to listen to all the boring parts of a podcast before you get to the part you're actually interested in. You can't even listen to it at double speed. That's right. Unless you stab yourself in the arm. Whoa. That's right. For an audience of paying lunatics.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So they're watching you. Listen to a podcast. Yep. And normally, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're lunatics in an asylum, but they've got money. They've got generational wealth. Great. But they're lunatics in an asylum, but they've got money. They've got generational wealth. Great. But they're not allowed.
Starting point is 00:04:06 But their only outlet is watching you listen to a podcast, but you can't speed through the bits you don't want to listen to unless you stab yourself. God, that's Black Mirror. So as an example, most people would have skipped through this bit. Okay. But they can't. But they can't in the dystopian future. Right, which is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I think so. Didn't you guest on a podcast? I did guest on a podcast. Why am I reminding you of that? You should be coming to me with that hot off the presses. That's true. Well our friend Josh Earle... Probably that joke that I did and it probably... That derailed everything. That changed my whole world and my whole worldview actually. That's what jokes can do. A lot of people don't know that. We're comedians, like myself. Go on. We're the new truth tellers. That's so true. And I am a comedian, aren't I? That's what people are saying.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Ha ha ha. Uh, Josh El, who did the podcast, Don't You Know Who I Am, as well as, uh, Four Burners. Uh, here's another podcast called I'll Be Your Biggest Fan. Wow. Uh, where he, uh, he talks to a guest and they talk about all the things they've been a fan of throughout their lives. God. Uh, previous episode was Tom Walker.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Uh huh. Great comedian. Whoa. And on Tom Walker, great comedian. Whoa. And on this one, great comedian, Nick Mason. Cool. Yeah. That's really good. Making all sorts of jokes. Completely agree.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And if you like, man, all the things Nick Mason was probably a fan of when he was a kid, very predictable based on his current life. Yeah. Absolutely incorrect. Well, at least they can- Transformers and movies and stuff. Yeah. But they got it down to 21 minutes.
Starting point is 00:05:23 That's true. Yeah. It's a brisk listen. It's a brisk listen. Did you mention me? Yes. I mean, maybe that's not a... Did you say how tall I am? I didn't, but I could call Josh and we could... If you could, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Put it in the description. Okay, great. Great. Mason, let's start with this. And maybe like a picture of you standing up. This is not what we're starting with. No, no, it's a picture of you standing up and there's the height measures, you know, and then like a sperm whale or something, just for scale.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I think that's good. The sperm whale's standing on its tail, right? Correct, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Business Insider, they're saying this, Mason. They spoke to Tony Gilroy, because of course Andor's starting soon. I prefer Business Outsider. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Because you're in nature. You're in nature. You're outside. Warrnable. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Open fire, you know? You. You're outside. You're in nature. Warrnable. Yeah. Open fire. You know?
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah. Okay. Wheat. He's roasting marshmallows and business outsiders there. He's got his cork hat on. G'day boys. G'day boys. It's me, the business outsider.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Okay. Now tariffs. Tell you this about tariffs. What do you want to know? What do we want to know? I don't know. I'm liking this new character I've been to called the business outsider. Can't wait for him to come up every time business insider is mentioned. Do we have a beef with business insider?
Starting point is 00:06:28 I can't remember something happen. Yeah, probably. Yeah, I don't know Anyway, they spoke Tony Gilroy about and all oh, yes And they said, you know It's like they're up to all sorts of stuff because he was kind of like trying to push the boundaries of what can you do with? Star Wars. Can you do a sitcom? Etc. That's in the magazine the headline. It just is Tony Gilroy's up to all sorts of stuff I agree. Because he was talking about what if there was like a three camera sitcom situation, and I just don't think they would do that.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Also, they probably shouldn't. I can't imagine that would be funny either. Maybe. Except if it's like a cameo from Darth Vader, and they're like, my boss is coming for dinner. It's Darth Vader. That's right. And he's like, did you bring a tube that I can like my boss is coming for dinner it's Darth Vader! That's right. And he's like did you bring a tube that I could stuff into my sarcophagus?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Sarcophagus? Yep. Sure he brings his sarcophagus, his big water sarcophagus that he sleeps in. The honeymoon is but it's uncle Owen and aunt Beru, what about that? Love that. Yeah right? Yes. Pre-kids?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Pre-Luke? Prouk? Yeah, pre-Luke era. Prouk. Prouk era, yes exactly. That's what they call it. Amazing. Oh, one of you fixed those moisture converters? She's mad.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. He hasn't. He's waiting for a child. It's the one thing he has to do. Yeah, he's waiting for a child to be, you know, delivered to them. Oh, okay. Yeah. Very good.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah. Anyway... Very dry humour. Very dry humour, because it's the planet Tatooine. That's good, Mason. Thank you. He said in regards to horror... But some moist humour. boys will that have to be yeah in regards to horror as in like a horror project A Star Wars themed horror project. He said they're doing that. I think they're doing that. I think that's in the works
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, it won't be as good as my show and or they're great The best show probably the best Star Wars of all time also in my opinion big deal to say that I know It'll probably be a zombie. You're a truth tell to say that I know it'll probably be a zombie you're a truth teller I am but it'll be just a zombie thing I assume probably yeah I mean which they already sort of did in yeah a soaker animated rebel style no I think they mean like a proper okay live action yeah okay I'd like to see some ghosts what else you know what I'd like to see a serial killer style of serial killer in the Star Wars universe and you send I don't know a Jedi to investigate and he's like, I don't know
Starting point is 00:08:28 None of us are really we're all vaguely good at some things. Mmm. Sure, you know, so yeah, you know Detective in not my not my cup of tea. I mean you saw everyone's detecting in episode two He turned up to the client facility. He's like, what's that? And they're like all the clones and he goes I mean, I know I know what this is. I invented this, I think. That's my character. I mean, self. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So how are you feeling about that? I'll watch that. I mean, there's a million things they're probably working on and canceling and all of the time, but that's right. I don't know. It depends who's on it. Depends on the execution. A million kyber crystals in the kyber crystal fire, they say.
Starting point is 00:09:06 That's what they do say. They say that. Everyone's always saying that. So yeah, whatever, I guess. THR, Mason, they're saying this. The headline is China mulling ban on Hollywood film releases in response to Trump tariffs. Uh-oh. You familiar with this? All these tariffs going up and down?
Starting point is 00:09:20 I've heard of these tariffs. And the stock market's up and down? I'm just hearing about these right now. Heard of that one? Yeah. He often is hearing something for the first time, inexplicably. But you know that's not true. You know they're like, what about this guy? And he's like, I don't know that guy. I don't know him. And he's like, he's standing. We've been practicing our Trumpet Vs. Off Air. Just to each other. He's standing behind you. What are you talking about? Hollywood's luck in China, the world's second largest film market, could soon run out, according to statements issued Tuesday by two influential public figures in the country.
Starting point is 00:09:51 So there's two- The country of China? Yes. Two widely followed Chinese bloggers posted an identical set of measures the local authorities are said to be mulling over in response to Trump's 54% tariffs on all Chinese goods, which the president vowed to increase to 104% if Beijing didn't back down from a pledge to match the current US tariff rate. I think at the moment, most of the stuff is at 125%.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I can't keep track of it. We'll see by the time. But it excludes some electronics. Electronics was excluded today, I assume because Apple put a word in or something and they were like, that's all our stuff. Yeah, that's our stuff. Your phone will go that's all our stuff. Yeah, that's fine. We'll go up two thousand. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Or even more like I read something like your phone might be like thirty thousand dollars if they made in America sick. That'd be awesome. I think also, you know, because they want to export more things. Trump's talking about what is and we bring in all these cars and nobody's buying our cars, you guys are too fucking big, man. I fucking hate those cars. I've never seen them on the road here. They don't fit anything.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They're the worst. They take up too car space. Yeah. Too big. Nobody wants that shit. Yeah. Keep it in your own goddamn country. I'm car racist.
Starting point is 00:10:59 You know that, right? I know that. Yeah. So you know, you got a little car. You're zipping around having the time of your goddamn life. I've got a big-ish car for here. But that. Yeah. Yeah. So you know, you got a little car. I've got a little. Zipping around having the time of your goddamn life. I've got a big ish car for here. But that's normal. This is like normal.
Starting point is 00:11:09 But it's not. It's like this car's like double the size of my car. Yeah. I love zipping around a little. You zipping around. Make an F150, but it's just an F50. It's really small. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:20 It's a third of the size. I would love that. Yep. It's like one of those cars you put a coin in outside the front of the supermarket It's my real car Exactly. The list of moves include reducing or banning the import of films into the of US films into the country It's also tariffs on agricultural goods interesting and US services and other among other countermeasures. So yeah, this is obviously one normal man having a normal one, trying to break and then reverse what he broke a little bit
Starting point is 00:11:53 and go, I did this and made things better. But it's like, no, you fucked it and then you made it slightly better, but it's still fucked from the original time that you fucked it. So by the time this comes out, all this information will be out of date. I don't know, man. Yeah. I mean, I know people are saying, is it a pump out of date I don't know man yeah I mean I know people say is it a pump and dump I don't think it is yeah kind of I think that's part of it but I don't think that's the whole benefit that all the money yeah anyway so under former trade agreements China committed to releasing this is prior to now 34 foreign films per year under a under revenue share terms with an
Starting point is 00:12:23 overseas studio permitted permitted to 25% share of ticket sales. Okay. So if you look at like the Minecraft movie, for example, on the opening weekend in China, that made $14 million. And the micro movie is blowing up. It's huge. But that was like, do we have a segment to talk about the Minecraft movie this week?
Starting point is 00:12:37 And we can definitely do that. Yeah, we'll squeeze that in. We'll squeeze that in. We'll do it after this one. And then for example, Godzilla X Kong, the new Empire, that made $132 million in China. Yeah, yeah, big market. Yeah. So I guess, if this, I think this will all, a lot of this will be walked back, or there'll be some balance will be struck on this at some point.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I don't know what that looks like, obviously, because it changes by the minute, it seems. But if this was permanent, I think yeah, they would probably, movies that are built almost to cater to the Chinese market, I think that'll change a bit. We'll finally get some ghosts in these movies. God damn it, please. But also it seems as if China was there- They don't like ghosts for some reason.
Starting point is 00:13:18 No, I know they don't. That's what we've been told. And they don't like Star Wars. They hate Star Wars. That's interesting, okay. Star Wars always bombs there. They like iShow Speed. Oh yeah, he was just there. He was just there and he's like, whoa, look at this car. Look at this monorail. Whoa. I'm jumping them. He's jumping them. Yeah, that's good for him. I'm happy
Starting point is 00:13:35 for him. But they're already, they're building up their own film industry. We now know that the biggest movie of all time is a Chinese film. It overtook. Is it everything at this point? I don't think a two billion dollar film nice to earn two billion So I think they're slowly like stepping away from American releases regardless But yeah, the Chinese market used to be huge and it has been diminishing and this is just kind of further doing that Anyway, Minecraft. Well, I wanted to say is that I'm sorry. I'm minecraft minecraft brought it up. Yeah, I know. Ah I'm wasting your time. Oh, I thought you wanted to go back to the thing We're already talking about but you want to talk about minecraft now. I want to do it now Well, all I wanted to say is that you know, clearly it's doing really well. Yeah, and last week
Starting point is 00:14:15 I said something to the effect of you know People are going absolutely wild in the cinema like that. That was my experience It's been the experience all over the place We've seen videos of it, you know, from all around the world is happening. And I was under the impression that people were doing it because they're like, oh, when they were kids or they are kids and they love Minecraft.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And so they're just so excited to see this game translated to the big screen. But I've been told a number of times by a number of people, no, it's actually, it's an ironic meme situation. It's like a brain poison meme thing where everybody knows it's bad. Yeah. But they're just going in throwing popcorn. There's been a lot of like, you know, on TikTok, there's been a lot of people like breaking apart the trailer and going nuts over the trailer. And so every time in line from the trailers in the movie, everybody goes insane
Starting point is 00:15:00 and throws popcorn and sets off fireworks and say, you know, whatever. Let's the chicken loose. Oh, my God. The chicken jockey, know, whatever, let's the chicken loose. Oh my God. The chicken jockey, that's how. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we didn't understand irony until now. Yeah. But I think it's it's sort of it's probably akin to that.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Like everyone dress up as in suits to go see the minions movie. Exactly. Yeah. But just more chaotic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Just maybe don't because the people you're annoying are the people that have to clear up the cinema
Starting point is 00:15:26 and deal with people being fucking annoying. What I would do personally is see if you can arrange a screening in like the CEO of Warner Brothers office. Yeah, exactly, David Zaslav. David Zaslav, and then when the chicken jockey scene happens, you can scream and yell and throw popcorn away. Yeah, you can throw him out a window. Let the chicken loose.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You can throw him out a window. Then it's his problem. You can throw him out a window. Because he's been hurled out a window to his death. He's been defenestrated, yes. Which I don't think you can throw him out the window. Let the chicken loose. You can throw him out a window. Then it's his problem. You can throw him out a window. Because he's been hurled out a window to his death. He's been defenestrated. Which I don't think you should do, by the way. Okay. Well, I'm saying hashtag defenestrate David Zaslav.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I'm saying we get that going. We don't do hashtags here, Mason. No, we do them all the time. Yeah, we do a lot of them. We do a lot of hashtag based humor. Yeah. Hashtag hashtag based humor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Let's get that trending. You're one of those people who you leave all your rubbish when you leave the cinema, don't you? No. And you go, that's for you. No. How dare you? How dare I?
Starting point is 00:16:09 How dare you? I heard you glued all your rubbish to the floor once. I mean, I did that, but it was several times. But it was in neatly arranged bags, one, two and four. Yeah. So they had to spend the entire, they had to spend the, you know, looking for bag number three.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Oh, that's fine. I love this joke. Yeah, this joke we do all the time. We've had two jokes so far, both really good. I also don't mind people, you know, you want to go, you want to have a good time. I think that's great. But you know, and if you are going to throw popcorn around, maybe clean up. Maybe clean up. But you know, maybe bring a vacuum. Yeah, it's a movie that neither of us care about. Maybe bring a brand new Dyson vacuum stick vacuum, you know, bring one of those in.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Hoover up all that popcorn, you know? Yep, you can do it. Yeah. This is why Nexus Point News, they say the Batman won't begin filming until early 2026 at the earliest. That's related to apparently Robert Pattinson being cast in Dune 3. He's been cast in Dune 3. He's been cast in Dune 3. This has been continually pushed back and there was some news this week and I don't like talking about this but it came up this via Grace Ralph.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It's a bit grubby. Yeah, it is. She said if you knew what- But you're a bit grubby. I am. It's true. If you knew what Matt Reeves, Matt Reeves is director of The First Batman and we will this one, hopefully. If you knew what Matt Reeves was dealing with, you'd leave him alone. I mean, it's not a Chadwick Boseman situation, but it's close. You should leave Matt Reeves is directed the first Batman and we will this one, hopefully. If you knew what Matt Reeves was dealing with, you'd leave him alone. I mean, it's not a Chadwick Boseman situation, but it's close. You should leave Matt Reeves alone. I'm implying that him or someone close to him is sick, potentially terminal.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I don't know if there's any validity to any of this, obviously, but I mean, I guess if this is true, it could explain why this is continually being pushed back on There's other people saying this isn't true. Yeah, but I don't I don't know I don't I don't like this No, people have also been saying something new effective. Well, I don't want to do it, you know, somebody in this camp Maybe it's James Gunn or whoever doesn't want to do Ultimately doesn't want to do the Batman too because they want to do a new Batman for this new DCU Yeah, and so they don't want people to be confused. But again, I don't think that matters Yeah, I saw this name pop up a number of times this week in the running for the new Batman Are you familiar with Brandon's?
Starting point is 00:18:13 Skull and ah, yeah, he's come up a few times. Yeah. Yeah, so he was in he's in it ends with us Which is that Blake Lively movie that was very controversial for some reason. He's in drop. I mean, there's an ongoing Battle yeah, he's in Drop. I mean, there's an ongoing, there's an ongoing legal battle. Yeah. He's in the drop the air dropping. Michael Jordan shoe movie. No, drop drop. It's a movie about the train song drops of Jupiter. Yeah, it's about the making of the song drops of Jupiter. Fantastic. He wrote it on the toilet. Did he? The train guy. But it was doing drops of Jupiter. Exactly. Great. But go on. And he's also in 1923, which is the Yellowstone prequel. Does he look like a Batman to you?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Could do. Is he tall? He's probably tall. He's probably tall. What's his name? Brandon. So like, let's go Brandon, that thing you were always saying. I'm always saying that.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You were saying let's go Brandon, then Sklinar, which is that nonsense word you made up. He's kind of a East 34. He's kind of a Ryan Gosling looking guy. Okay, yeah, which is that nonsense word you made up. He's kind of a East 34. He's kind of a Ryan Gosling looking guy. OK, I see that. He's 1.88 meters tall. What's that? 6'1, 6'2? That could be 6'2. 6'2, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I mean, which means he's probably 6 foot. Right. Or 5'9. Or 5'9, yeah. Yeah, I mean, sure. Good as any. You giving that Bruce Wayne hair? Yeah. OK. I don't good as any. Uh-huh. You're giving that Bruce Wayne here. Yeah, okay I don't know. Yeah, I don't know anything about this guy. Okay. Yeah, I would I wouldn't mind
Starting point is 00:19:32 Like a guy we don't know absolutely like well, we know him from 1920 Yeah, we know him now, but I wish I didn't know that cuz now when he gets cast as Batman I'll be like you're losing a shadow. I know who this man is I've seen this man on a toilet with a notepad writing the song drop drops of Jupiter yes no fantastic mmm so you know we'll see what happens there Batman you know checks out Mozart while she does Tybo you know all those classic lines that even how you check yeah that's an awful lot so one of the worst lines I've ever heard in a song Wow yeah well he wrote it on the toilet so you've got to give him some credit. No, that's relaxing time, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:06 His thoughts can... Wander? His thoughts can wander. Are you imagining some sort of under the pump toilet situation where he has to get out of there? Is he backstage? I think he might be straighting, I don't know. Yeah, maybe. The fans are cheering and he's like, I've got to finish being on the toilet. They're cheering the name of the song and he's furiously trying to finish it before he comes out. That's right. Because he promised it earlier on.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Listen, I just gotta do Cyrix drops of Jupiter, just give me five minutes. But he hadn't finished it, mate. No, he had to finish it on the toilet. Anyway, this is all in the movie drop, which is a big hit. This is by The Daily Mail. Daily Mail. Wow, got him. Amazon's Lara Croft TV series from Bibi Waller-Bridge is apparently not going ahead.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Dead. Dead. Is the word used in the article. Now we talked about recently people who got huge development deals but haven't done anything with them. Which doesn't necessarily mean it's a fault of the person. It could also keep them off the playing board, which means they can't go to other streaming services.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Oh, I see what you're saying. She's locked into Netflix. So she's just a pawn. Yeah, can't make flea back too. Well, maybe she's just collecting a check. I don't know. Whatever. Yeah. Good for her. Yeah. Who's the sneakiest in these arrangements? Is it JJ Abrams? JJ Abrams. JJ Abrams doing a Netflix deal and then another deal and an additional deal. Is it those? Got a HBO deal I think. Yeah. Is it those Game of Thrones guys. They did three body problem. They did actually make a juice something Okay, right how they did that all why they didn't need to what are they doing? Yeah waste of time So yeah
Starting point is 00:21:33 It's either a case of you know They've attempted to develop a bunch of stuff and it hasn't come to fruition or they've got some clause in their contract where they're like It doesn't matter what I do. Yeah, juice or anything. You still have to pay me. So well speaking of where they're like, it doesn't matter what I do or produce or anything, you still have to pay me. Well, speaking of, Waller-Bridge signed a $20 million deal in 2019 with $20 million. Wow. But also, I should point out, that's $20 million per year.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Whoa. But she has produced, as of then, zero shows. That's incredible. Pucks Matt Bologna said, Tomb Raider,na said Tomb Raider. Matt Bologna? Yep. I've talked about him before. Which Waller-Bridge has been working on and which Solke, she's a- I think you should do it in a Matt Bologna style voice. And what would that sound like? He's a New York guy. I'm a New York guy, I'm Matt Bologna. Thank you. Tomb Raider, which Waller-Bridge was working on with Solke. What's that? It's a rat eating a pizza. I'm doing New York.
Starting point is 00:22:27 He's not in New York. Isn't he? No. Where is he? He's in England. Okay. With Phoebe Waller Bridges. Okay. Yeah. They were personally overseeing after announcement of the series picked up
Starting point is 00:22:38 last May, but now has gone through two writers' rooms and then tens of millions of dollars in development costs. There's still no script. Wow. There you still no script. Wow. There you go. Wow. Well, well, well, must be nice to get money. 20 million dollar a year. A year.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Well, so what's that now? 2019 six years. Yeah. Okay. That's well, that cannot be true. Surely not. I don't know, man. They must've cut this off at some point.
Starting point is 00:23:01 So a hundred to 120 million dollars. What's that for Amazon? Nothing. That is nothing for Amazon I guess. It's peanuts. Yeah so I guess so. God damn. I mean I was interested apparently Sophie Turner might have been Tomb Raider. Okay sure. So you know but apparently this is again not happening. So I don't know. Good work all involved. All involved good work and we respect it. We respect it. Speaking of video games Mason, well first of all well we have to look at the Uncharted movie this week from Caravan and Garbage. Oh, that's right. Well, lucky us, we've already done it. Yeah, we did. It's coming out. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:23:33 It's bad. Yeah, but it was nice to revisit it. That wasn't. No, it wasn't. The last of a season three, though, has been announced by HBO Max. Okay. Which isn't surprising, seeing as that's what they're up to. Apparently this upcoming season, which I guess might have started by the time this comes out, it's got a 93% score on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Apparently there's some criticism regarding the narrative structure, and that might be because the second game is broken into two seasons. And there's some pretty significant moments in it. One in particular, which I'm not going to spoil here. I'm presuming that's on the back end of the first season. Apparently though, unlike Game of Thrones, this won't go beyond the games. So this will be the last Last of Us for a while. Though there has been many rumors suggesting that there is a Last of Us 3 coming. Okay. Three Last of Us. Three Last of Us. Last for us. Last 3 us. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I don't like it. Thank you. I don't like it. So there you go. I think this could improve on the game. Could do? Yeah. Absolutely. I believe that in my heart. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice of them to reverse Phoebe Waller-Bridge though, isn't it? Completely agree. In a deal. Make the thing. Make the thing. Make the video game thing. Wow. Yeah, and it's good, too I hope this is good. I mean, you know, we'll see when it comes out but good things Trailer's ahoy Mason. Honk The fuck was that? It's a car just gone by. What? Yeah. The boat's not. I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I don't want to talk about it. I'm done with this. I'm done with it. We can develop another bit. Don't worry. We'll see how it goes. Predator Killer of Killers. Animated. Animated movie coming out on Disney+. Movie? So it's an anthology movie. It's not a TV series. It's not an anthology movie. Sort of. Well, it is. It's by Dan Trachtenberg. He did Prey. The movie Prey. He did. And he's also doing Predator Badlands.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Which by coincidence is also a Predator movie. That's right. So it's going to Disney Plus and Hulu on June 6th. So yeah, it follows a Viking Raider, a ninja in feudal Japan and a World War II fighter race and they're all going up against a Predator. Same guy? Same Predator? It seems that way potentially. I like this.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, me too. I think the animation style is cool. It's doing that choppy frame rate thing which people don't always love so but I think maybe that'll change over the thanks A lot spider verse by the way for giving us that yeah now they runs doing it. That's right But no, I I don't know. I thought this would look worse for some reason But I think it looks good and unique and fun. I'd never given it a second thought until the trailer came out I agree with you pretty cool. Yeah at what point do you think the other predators are like, hey man, what you're doing is actually not fair. Like you've got an invisible spacecraft and you're
Starting point is 00:26:13 fighting like, and you're invisible and you're fighting like, like guys in biplanes or whatever. Yeah. It seems, it seems, you know, seems uncool. It's fun. I forgot it was fun. I think they're the weird rednecks of their... I guess they're probably are. They go on other worlds and killing people very easily. You know? Like they don't all like it. They're all like, don't, don't, don't, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:36 It's kind of like horse racing. Like people watch it, but they're like, I don't know about this anymore. You know? Okay. Should go man to man or predator to predator. Even then that's unfair. I feel. Yeah. But anyway, they say there's a, there's a, you know, there's an up to the cup. Yeah. And in its rights, it's done to the hunt. You've got to say done to the hunt. You
Starting point is 00:26:58 know, the alien home world is done to me. Yeah, I don't. Don't. Yeah. Okay. Right. Yeah. The guy's like, I'm just like, I'm just, I've just put on my plasma cannon on my spears and all my... And my net. And my nets and stuff. And I've got a new spear that I spear somebody to a wall and the spears come out the side and it cuts them in half. Anyway, I'm just gonna get on my spaceship and I go to Earth and they're like, I don't. I don't to the hunt. You nearly said a different word there. I did. But you didn't.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I didn't. And that's important. Anyway, looking forward to it. Next we've got Murderbot, become an Apple+. This is based on the Martha Wells series All Systems Red, which started in 2017. Okay. So it's about a machine, cyborg man, mostly a robot potentially. With the face of one of the Sarsgots. That's right. Peter Sarsgot? Bill Sarsgot.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It's a Sarsgot or a Skarsgot? Yeah. And he becomes self-aware, but then he wants to work for money and stuff. And he calls himself Murderbot. Yeah. Okay. Which I think is fun. Now the biggest upset I saw on this was people going, oh, he has to have a human face.
Starting point is 00:27:54 But apparently he does have a human face in the original. What's the problem then? I don't know. I mean, it's humanoid, I suppose. But people are like, oh, why does he have to do this? Why can't he just be the helmet and you never see his face? I don't mind. I was going to sneeze. Go on. You still can?
Starting point is 00:28:11 I don't think I can. Wow. Not with people watching. I'll turn away. But then the puppet will still be watching. Puppets looking at me. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Don't worry about that. Don't look over there. Okay. Seems the sneeze is past. It has a nice scent. Maybe it will recur later. I hope so. Check off sneeze. James's sneeze. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:29 You're welcome. Next up we got another trailer for Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. Oh yeah. A lot of this trailer was spent listing off all the insane things that Ethan Hunter's done. That's right. And one of them they mentioned is like,
Starting point is 00:28:40 yeah, he did that like two months ago, which I think is fun. Yeah. Cause they're going back to the, they talk about stuff back in like the 90s that he did do you see the the passport from the 80s think we're finally gonna get that Ethan Hunt 80s flashback maybe we will that we sort of gotten the last one apparently the budget on this is 400 million dollars damn is this a billion
Starting point is 00:28:59 dollar movie no I don't know the last one wasn't yeah Christopher Macquarie's back looks like do you think it's gonna be the last one with Ethan Hunt? I think they won't kill him, but he'll disappear. Okay. Here's the thing. I would have a week ago I would have said yes, it is the last one but The Oscars recently announced they're gonna do a stunt category Yeah, and they're gonna start at the year after the last mission impossible movie but once rude but once you know good point I was gonna say but once he gets that Oscar, wouldn't he be satiated? But he won't for this. Do you think that, I mean, he can get, he does stunts in other movies.
Starting point is 00:29:35 That's true. But nobody cares. Is that true? No, Top Gun. Stunts. There's an aircraft carrier in this. They give him an aircraft carrier. There's a couple of interesting things in this. First first of all I don't think the main big stunt is in this trailer I think they might be saving it for okay the biplane thing I think there's an even bigger stunt mmm There's a bit where he's got that fun hair on the biplane looks like he's got a bowl. He's got a he's got a mo from The three stooges haircut which you said you pointed out means that if he doesn't have stuff in his hair
Starting point is 00:30:03 That's how his head normally. Yes, it's flat and a bowl cut bowl cut Which I think does he said his Valkyrie hair? No, it wasn't that era. It was that era. Okay, right He did have a bowl cut at one It looks as if the maybe the final reckoning might be Ethan Hunt getting into a some sort of cyber Sarcophagus and and getting into a virtual world and talking to the entity. Oh my god You think it's gonna look like his wife? Maybe. Or like that lady who died in the last one?
Starting point is 00:30:30 It will look- Rebecca something? You're probably right. It'll probably hurt. But yeah, it'll be someone from the past movies that we'll have to recognize. Maybe it's all of them. It's Simon Pegg and all of them are like,
Starting point is 00:30:40 I can look like anybody because Simon Pegg maybe dies in this movie or whatever. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. I'm excited. all of them are like, I can look like anybody because Simon Pegg maybe dies in this movie. I'm excited. Yeah. May 22nd as mentioned. Maybe you'll be like, look, you can predict the future and you can change the course of world history. But if you consider that guy who got diarrhea in the first movie. Oh, yeah. Well, he's back. What? Yeah. it's got even more diarrhea on the entity. Whoa Ethan Hudson, you know, he's he's he's ten steps ahead. You wouldn't do you think somebody was already in the entity machine? They pulled them out and put him in Oh Amelia West of is because you've thought you've had that idea that I'm ill I was of as is the entity Yeah, yeah, or it's the guy who had diarrhea
Starting point is 00:31:23 He comes back That's actually here that's actually him it's the guy who had diarrhea. He comes back. That's actually him. That's actually him. It's the same actor. I know it's the... because there's a flashback to him, but he's actually him in this. Yeah, he's got a beard now. Yeah, also new addition to the cast. I mean we knew this already, but Nick Hoffman's in this. Trammell Tillman from Severance is in this. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:42 There's somebody else in this as well. Maybe does a dance. He might do a dance. Oh, and Shay Wiggum's back. Hair's somebody else in this as well. He might do a dance. Oh and Shay Wiggum's back. Hair's taller than ever. And he's like Ethan Hunt's on the run again. He's always on the run. Stop trying to catch him. There's a bit where he gets captured.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Do you notice that? Where they got him in handcuffs? But I feel like he wants to be there. What do you feel like? I think he wants to be there but I had the thought first. Did you? Anyways this should be at the very least Very entertaining. I think so too. And I'll take that. I'll take a very entertaining movie. And maybe the last one before Jeremy Renner finally takes over. That's right. Maybe Jeremy Renner's in the thing.
Starting point is 00:32:15 No. Yeah, he wouldn't be. I would like to see him back in this series. Yeah, me too. Me too. Me too. All right, should we move it along? Yes. Great. Just before we black mirror We just had a very interesting off-air conversation. Go on. A right, should we move it along? Yes. Great. Just before we black mirror, we just had a very interesting off air conversation. A realization that we both had. Yes. But often, you know, when, you know, we get stuck into each other.
Starting point is 00:32:32 We jest and we joke and we jake. That's so true. And if we guest on another podcast or we have someone here, often it'll be like one person and a guest going up against the other person. That's true. As a joke, you sort of pick a side.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah. And we go, oh, me and the guest, I'll make fun of James, all the guests will be like, Mesa, you're an idiot or whatever. But we've never, you pointed out, we've never collectively just... Just rinse somebody together. That's correct. Because I think it would be just devastating. I think we could like permanently just really destroy somebody. I think so. That would be fun for us. We need to pick this person wisely and we need to not let them know that it's going to happen. But I think anybody who contacts us and asks to be on our podcast in future, they've got
Starting point is 00:33:12 to know you might be the one. You might be, you know, we might have, our algorithm might have selected you. Yeah. They might also be like, whatever. Yeah, true. You guys suck and your opinion isn't valid. And that would be bad for us. I'd be like, Yeah, true. You guys suck and your opinion isn't valid and that would be bad for us. I'll be like yeah James! What? I'll switch sides immediately.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Anyway, something to consider for the future I think. I think so too. Yeah. Black Mirror Season 7. That's right. It's been a couple years since the last. I came out with six episodes. Some longer than others. All roughly an hour. Except for the last one which is a bit hour 20. It's feature length. Well there you go. We got some with two of them being sequels of sorts. That's right. To previous episodes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You got to get your grubby British one in there that cost nine dollars. Yep. You get a couple of them. You got to get your San Junipero episode in there. Yep. Where there's you know. But not as good. A little bit of a bit of love and tenderness.
Starting point is 00:34:04 AI etc. Yeah, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you've got to get one where somebody's brain is transferred into a thing. Do we get that this into an egg or a sphere or whatever? Yeah, we do. Great. There's a lot of that going on in a few of those. Okay, so here's a quick recap of season six.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yes. The, the, spoiler recap, if you can't, if you can't remember the last season. Let's do it. This is 2023, I want to say. This is, yeah, this is, if you use 20, I don't know the last season. This is 2023. I want to say this is Yeah, this is a few years 20. I don't know, man. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Okay, so it was Joan is awful, which is the one where Annie Murphy from Schitt's Creek discovers that her streaming service she
Starting point is 00:34:35 subscribes to stream Barry, which is comes back in this has made a procedurally generated show about her. Yep, where she's bad and everyone makes fun of her. And now I enjoyed that one. It was, ultimately, we discovered that there's multiple layers of reality. Yes. Remember that? The shows within shows within shows.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah. And there's like different levels of her in different dimensions. Oh, yeah. There was Lock Henry. People might have forgotten, but I think this is maybe one of the most disturbing episodes. I like to lock in that's the one where a couple go back to a town where one of them grew up in Scotland and it turns out there was a series of mysterious murders serial murders etc. I was based partially on a real serial killer couple spoiler alert mm-hmm I like that one a lot it was and
Starting point is 00:35:23 that became like it was like you, true crime documentary and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And is it a bit grim? And it was it was it was a little bit further away from like Black Mirror as a concept. But I guess there was cassette tapes. Well, it was modern day. Yeah. So it was one of the few ones actually set in the modern day. That's true. Then it was Beyond the Sea, which is Aaron Paul and Josh Hartner, Josh Hartner, their astronauts.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Or Tomatons. They have they have remote control bodies on earth while they go into a deep space mission yeah and then this hijinks there's fun hijinks if you recall yeah Maisie day which was the one about a paparazzi chasing down a celebrity and it was a werewolf it was a werewolf one and then there was like that one yeah Yeah, and there was demon 79, which is the red mirror episode Yeah, it's nothing to do with technology. Wait, the werewolf one wasn't a red mirror one. No, it was just regular black mirror What I don't know man, maybe it's nanotech. Are there werewolves in black mirrors? I guess there are now just around. Yeah, great Yeah, yeah, so it was only the last one which is well, you can't see werewolves in mirrors So maybe that had something to do with it. That's so true, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:36:26 I don't know for what yeah, so demon 79 is set in the 70s and it's about a young woman I'm thinking a creature of a black lagoon. Can I say in the mirror? Sorry, go on. And she unwittingly she's sort of put upon because she's Indian and everybody's racist Yeah, and she's she unearths a demon who says she has to kill three people one a day for the next three days of the World Wind. How's she gonna do that? Bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I like that one. Anyway, overall, I thought that was a very strong season. Agreed. Now, how did you feel that, we'll do spoilers and we'll go episode to episode. How do you feel compared to this season? I think this season isn't as good. I think there are some,
Starting point is 00:37:04 I think there's two that I didn't think were great but the rest of them I'm like pretty solid, liked a lot of this. I liked both of the sequel episodes. Just to, I guess, just to very quickly, maybe we'll just go through whether we liked or didn't. Yes, absolutely. Before doing spoilers. Okay, first episode, it's called Common People. It is Chris O'Dowd and Rashida Jones, they play a couple that are very much in love. They're a working class couple. They're looking for, they want to... Whoa, they're a working class couple. Common people. Exactly, like the song. Yeah. Whoa, working class.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Common people. Yeah. They want to have a kid, but then it turns out that Rashida Jones' character is a teacher. She collapses at work. She has a brain. Yeah. They want to have a kid, but then it turns out that Rashida Jones's character is a teacher, she collapses at work, she has a brain, a soon to be fatal brain issue. And so they go to a corporation that has an experimental surgery where they can take out a part of her brain, they can copy the elements of the brain, take it apart, replace that part of the brain with a receiver and then stream functional. And the surgery is free. Surgery is free.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And there's only a little bit of a subscription for the rest of it. That's right. Now, when this, I've seen a lot of people on the internet say, well, this episode was real gut punch. You know, it was a real, really hit home, really hit hard. That's all I've been reading. And I respect that. But also I watched this episode quite early before any of those reactions were out.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And I'm like, I think this episode is bad. I thought it was very heavy handed. Yeah. And I think also, and I mentioned this off air, we don't have yet, and we probably will, this style of healthcare in terms of the crippling medical debt that you'll have in the US. So maybe that's part of the reason we didn't hit home. But it's also on top of that,
Starting point is 00:38:56 should we just do spoilers for all of this? I think we probably should. If you really wanna watch these and you think we're heading into spoiler territory. Or yeah, I mean also, you know, Black Mirror again. Do you like Black Mirror? It's Black Mirror. Generally, yeah, and it's always a mixed bag.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Some of these episodes are going to hit for you, some aren't, and it's always different with different people. And yeah, like, you can go into this. If you go into these with like, I'm going to figure out the twist, you're probably not going to enjoy it as much. No, it's not. Yeah, it's not what it's about. Yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Some of the time. So look, what I liked Yeah, it's not what it's about. Yeah. So. So look, what I liked about this episode, I believed in the couple. Yes. I felt like they felt like a really authentic couple, which I really liked. She teaches B school. Oh, yeah. So maybe this is a sequel. This is sort of a sequel to that one. This is a sequel, Hated in the Nation with the killer bees. Yeah. Killer robot bees. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:42 So I believed in that. I liked their back and forth, you know, because they felt like they had a lot of, you know, running jokes and kind of, you know, stuff like that. But I was like, man, this feels like if you were doing a parody, like a YouTube sketch of like every Black Mirror episode, it felt like they looked around somebody writing this. And they got to somewhat comedic actors to appear in it. It's like they, it felt to me like they looked around the room that they were writing in and went, Oh, what if a streaming service? What if, what if you had to subscribe to something or your brain to your brain or you die? And if you don't sign up properly, you start running ads.
Starting point is 00:40:20 That's right. I just, yeah, I didn't, I didn't buy any of that. Also there's a second second part of this There's like a piss drinking out. There's a there is a there is a streaming service. I like streaming service Oh, there's a there's a Yeah streaming service. I like twitch or whatever called dumb dummies Yeah, and right and if and if you want money you go on there and people suggest... For you to either drink your own piss or pull your own teeth.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, something... It's usually that though. Yeah, it's usually, it's almost always that. Insert an object or whatever. Something demeaning and if you want money, if you're desperate for money. And I'm like, well, obviously these two are gonna... But again, it's like, it really felt like somebody went on this guy needs a way to have money. What if, what's, what could it be called?
Starting point is 00:41:09 Oh, dumb dummies. Like, come on, man. People are like, I'm paying to see this person drink their own piss or whatever. Which I just also, I don't know. I mean, I guess there is various things you can subscribe to, but I don't know why the first thing you would go to was, I'm going to drink my own piss. You don't have like fundraising apps or, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:30 you can reach out on Facebook and, you know, I don't know. Maybe he did do that. Maybe he tried all the other different things. That's right. Maybe they closed his GoFundMe and they said, have you considered drinking your own piss? You know? We don't know. No, we don't.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So you're like, as a result of that, you see them become more and more disheveled and that was sad like that. I feel like the, the idea of paying to keep yourself alive because of medical debt, I think that is, I mean, that is true. But I think the idea of having to stream your thoughts directly into your brain and then you're also running ads and then there's different tiers of How you feel and there's an app where you pay to drink your own piss. It just felt really Heavy hand you don't pay to drink your own piss
Starting point is 00:42:21 The future they want isn't it you have to pay to drink your own piss. Yeah, I mean I sort of, you know, as soon as this thing's... Like your medical debt is like, it's real and awful. As soon as they went, oh, you have to stream it into your own head. I'm like, here we go. Here we go. Here's the... there's gonna be tears. They're gonna change the rules of the terms of the agreement, etc, etc. And again, maybe it's because I was settling into this and I'm like, where is the twist? But I'm like, obviously they're gonna suddenly go,
Starting point is 00:42:50 well, the price has gone up and you get less features and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, exactly. Man, this one felt so heavy handed. Yeah, I know. And look, I don't wanna say unrealistic. I mean, they're all unrealistic. I don't know, like the way it escalated
Starting point is 00:43:05 and it seemed like they were the only one in the world even going through this. Yeah, right. There wasn't like some kind of, I don't know, giant court case or something. Maybe there was. I don't know. It just felt really specific. And the judge said, I dismissed this frivolous lawsuit. Have you considered drinking your own piss? Go drink your own piss. Guilty. Guilty.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, so I don't know. I didn't find this... And then yeah, it was sad. At the end he had to smother his fiancé with a pillow or whatever, wife with a pillow. And yeah, that was what she was doing. Yeah, just because the piss drinking up told him to. And then he was going to cut his own throat on air, I guess. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Is that what he was going to do? Because you see him going to the room to go back on Dum Dummies and he has a knife. Yeah, he's gonna knife his computer. Maybe he's gonna be like, now that's satire. That is satire, isn't it? And a black mirror. I mean, something I did of note that I thought was interesting, you know, when the the the agent of the corporation that is offering him this service, she has been the recipient of it as well. And so she has the full, all the benefits. And there's a moment where she like, she denies them their coverage or she can't, you know, let them continue on the service. And so she, she cranks up her nonchalance or something like that.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So she doesn't have to think about, you know, in life. So, you know, nice, nice must be nice. Must be nice. I mean, that's a metaphor for something as well, isn't it? So true. Xanax, et cetera's. Nice. Sounds good. Must be nice. Must be nice, Mason. I mean, that's a metaphor for something as well, isn't it? So true. Xanax, etc. Sure. You know, so yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Ah yeah, all in all, not my favourite. But a lot of people's favourite, apparently. Probably my least favourite. Oh no. Oh no, James. Second least favourite. Okay. Ah, let's talk about Betty Noir.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Okay. Let's say Noir. I think it's just Bette Noir. Bette Noir. Mm-hmm. This is... So it's a woman who works in Bet Noir. Mm-hmm. This is... So it's a woman who works in a... This is everything everywhere all at once.
Starting point is 00:44:49 To some degree, isn't it? It is. It's straight up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's about a woman and she works in a food science lab. They're coming up with new snack foods and testing them on people. And then somebody comes in to test one of the snack foods and it's a woman she used to go to school with and she was the This this woman she used to go to school with was a real weirdo
Starting point is 00:45:09 Freak real freak and everybody made fun of her and you know There were all sorts of rumors about her and all this sort of stuff And then she comes in and everybody seems to like her and she asks for a job she gets the job and then she is they working together in the office and the job and then she is they're working together in the office and the main character thinks that this woman is you know up to something but what some weird stuff keeps happening in the office and and and what's going on what is going on well it's weird quantum revenge isn't it yeah it's quantum revenge realm yeah yeah yeah so basically she has they talk about how she has this amazing ability
Starting point is 00:45:43 with computers and it turns out she's built this supercomputer Oh before we get to that. Sorry, so we'll so a Bunch of stuff like this. Oh, yeah. Well a bunch of stuff starts happening with our main character starts to feel quite unhinged Yeah, she'll say oh, I remember this thing from back in the Bernstein bears. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a little bit It's kind of a it's part of this. I like I like the part of this that was kind of yeah, like a What do you call it that word yes the Mandela effect effect yeah confabulation is what it's actually called wow it's real for real wait is that true are you just trying to Mandela affect me both great yeah but
Starting point is 00:46:16 anyway yeah so you know somebody else say in the in the you know in the office oh I remember you know this place it was called Bernie's and should be like no it's Barney's and then it turns out that the thing she absolutely remembered was true. They Google and it turns out she was wrong or even though her boyfriend used to work there, that kind of thing. Or like... And she's the only one who remembers the way it was. What's another thing that happens? There's she gets accused of drinking almond milk.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Sure. The worst crime you could do it Yeah, even though she's got a nut allergy and then it turns out the nut allergies don't exist Yeah, and then they're like we'll check the and we'll check the footage. Yep, and she is drinking it. Yeah, how's that happening? Well, how'd they do it? Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so this woman built a Quantum computer which means she can like everything ever all at once Basically jump skip into any reality and she can like everything ever all at once, basically jump, skip into any reality. And she can take someone with her.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Yeah. And she can take somebody with her. So she's doing this to this person and she's working her way, it seems, through her childhood bullies and got to her because she's the one who made up the rumor about her in the first place, which got her the most bullied. So it's a necklace and she presses it and says whatever. What she wants to be true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And then they go to, they end up in a reality where they're where it is true. That's right. Whether it be this place used to be called Bernie's, but now it's Barney's or you know, whatever, whatever. Yeah. And I didn't mind this one. I thought as a concept here, how does the computer work? I don't know. Yeah. Does that important? I don't know. What happens if she goes into a reality where she didn't build the quantum computer? Well, I guess you can't get out. I guess that's true. Don't do that then.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Once you got shot in the head, so it's not important. Well, that is true. She did. Yeah. Apparently this was originally called Ring of Truth and it was going to be a ring. Okay, sure. But then Charlie Brook was like, that's a bit on the nose.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Let's do Betty Noir. Okay. Right. Betty Noir. It's a bit on the nose. We want to do fresh original content. Like what if you had to subscribe to your brain? Otherwise you'd die.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yes. And then drink your own piss to pay for it. That's optional, but you're going to have to. Yeah. You're going to want to also. Yeah. So it ends with like, she ends up killing her bully and then taking control of. Or the main character ends up killing them. and then taking control of...
Starting point is 00:48:25 The main character ends up killing the weirdo. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Which is good because she was a weirdo. She was weird. She deserved it. And then she pretty much jumps to like, I'm emperor of the universe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Which I guess she'd probably walk back. You might do that. Yeah. Well, I mean, because we learned that the weirdo, she had done all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, we see her. We see her. She'd become the emperor of the universe. she became an astronaut, you know, all sorts of stuff. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I think what I'd imagine this character would do is just kind of have a bit of fun with it and then just go back to her original reality and be like, and this thing doesn't exist. I'd date him. But I'm not allergic to armadillo. But I'm not and I have a million dollars. Yeah, nice. I think that's probably what. Nice. Humble endings. Humble endings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or she just ends up Nice, humble endings. Humble endings. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Or she just ends up being space emperor of the universe or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you know. I was sort of in, this to me, I kind of, it kind of feels like to me, this, this feels like an American influenced episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Despite the fact that nobody was American in it, it's that this woman didn't end up in hell. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I feel like previous seasons, this wouldn't have ended well for the woman. It's that this woman didn't end up in hell. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like previous seasons, this wouldn't have ended well for the woman. Or maybe it does. Maybe you do end up in hell because like, if you've got infinite choices. Oh, you go insane. I think you probably would go insane. You'd end up doing everything and then you just...
Starting point is 00:49:37 You just need a million dollars in that almond milk. I don't know what you do. Simple, simple times. You probably run the, run the gamut of everything and then go insane. Yeah, I'd imagine Yeah, yeah, and then you find you know podcasting I was gonna say true true joy going down the doggies bent bent on the dog and on the dogs and on the greyhounds Maybe you will yeah, and then do dogs always win no yeah good. That's the true joy But if they don't win you change reality, so they do that's right. Yeah, exactly. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, not bad
Starting point is 00:50:03 All right episode 3. Yeah. Yeah, not bad. Alright, episode three, Hotel Reverie. Yeah. Right? Like the cast. Yeah. So it's Issa Rae and Emma Corrin. Yeah. The two main roles. So, well, here's the thing. So the premise of this is... Who would watch this kind of movie, by the way?
Starting point is 00:50:19 No one on Earth. Because, okay, so the premise, the premise basically is... I just wrote, this one is hard to care about right so this in so this movie essentially is there's a really old movie yeah and this studio Casablanca yeah it's a Casablanca kind of thing it's black and white and and a studio wants to remake it but they don't think modern audiences would like it. So their plan is to insert an A-list star in the place of the main character. Everything else will be the same except for the main character. And the main character is it's Issa Rae.
Starting point is 00:50:57 So she'd be a woman taking the place of the male character. The kind of guy is. But she learns on the day when she comes in because she doesn't read the info packet that she's been given. She's a big old movie fan as well. It's not super relevant. It's relevant.
Starting point is 00:51:17 She goes in expecting they're gonna scan her and she's gonna say the lines and they're gonna insert her in, you know, Star Wars style. You're basically doing a play with all the original, in virtual reality with all the original. So what's actually happening is she gets her brain, she gets her mind put into this virtual simulation and then she just has to say the lines in the movie. In the movie.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And you can't deviate too far because you'll die in there. Your brain will malfunction at some point. It's wildly complicated. This needed a rewrite, man. I don't know. Why would they go this far? Nobody would watch this. No.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I mean, also you can do this now, technically. You could either just film someone on green screen or just do a face replacement or whatever, depending on what it was. But in this, you have to live through the movie in real time and say the lines. Exactly as they were in the movie. And they had to be out of there at the end of the two hours because someone else was shooting a commercial in thereafter. But also the entire, like the initial situation situation like she will this this actor who's replacing the Humphrey Bogart character
Starting point is 00:52:29 She's you know Maybe flubbing a line or saying something different or whatever. Yeah, and the people in the control booth like she's not doing it correctly Why have you built this? Yeah, what's the point? What's the point of this? Yeah, this is I don't know man I kind of like I like the idea of Yeah. This is, I don't know, man. I kind of like, I like the idea of going, someone going into an old movie world, a fictional world and then falling in love with a fictional person. I think that's fun as a concept, but I think the way to get her into this world should
Starting point is 00:52:58 have been wildly different for some reason. Like at least at the end, she could talk to her on a phone yeah also that the it ends with midway through the the Emma Corrin character who develops self-awareness and learns everything about and learns that they are fictional and there who she was in the real world and all this sort of stuff that character then gets erased yeah and then at the end Issa Rae's character is just talking to a refreshed version that has none of this knowledge. And doesn't get the knowledge back either. It didn't even feel like bittersweet, like oh, you know, it's... Just like, just keep going I guess.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I have to start again or whatever. It just felt like, alright, well... I guess. Yeah, I guess. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I don't. I couldn't with this one. Conceptually again, I thought it was good, but I don't. Yeah. There's got to be a different way. This was my least favorite one. There's got to be a different way to do this. Why would, why would this, the technology is there to replace. You can do anything with that. You can create any environment and just make a virtual movie about literally anything. Also, like it didn't... when you see the final cut of it, you see a trailer for it and it's
Starting point is 00:54:12 just all these old-timey people and then modern-day Issa Rae being like, hey, what's up? What am I doing here? What's up? I can't play the piano, etc. Yeah. What's the... who would watch this? Nobody. Nobody would watch this. And that's what I felt like I
Starting point is 00:54:26 Felt that way about who would watch this about this episode as I was watching Does that make sense absolutely? And it does take a day. I guess maybe that's the twist I guess it deviates because they do as they often do in a black mirror They it all goes to shit for a time and then they get to spend even though it's like only an hour or so in The real world they get to spend like months together just in this in this black and white anyway this is the same junipero episode it is yeah but it's less interesting um i thought yeah i don't know i just couldn't with this do you think there are limited sort of buckets to put black mirror episodes in are we seeing that is that it's kind of oh maybe eventually there's only 10 types of story you can do with a black mirror.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I thought eulogy... Mr. Beast style. I thought about eulogy, but I thought that one was more... Yeah. Maybe... I guess we've seen variations on all of it. It's all the same technology where you put a thing on your temple. Yes. Yeah. You put a button on your temple. Put it up your nose.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah, that's right. Push it right up your nose. Put it in a glass of piss. Put it in a glass of piss put in a glass of Piss drink the piss that's five hundred dollars that you owe the government. What's what's not really the government? It's a corporation Yeah, it's a corporation. Yeah, it's called it's called banana plus. Yeah, that's right instead of Apple plus base Nice nice, that's good. Yeah now this was for stream Barry, wasn't it? Yeah fictional Netflix. That's right Yeah, okay next episode play thing. This is the sequel to bandersnatch sort of yes sort of which is the standalone choose your own adventure
Starting point is 00:55:52 episode of Black Mirror I like this one once and ever again thought this one was pretty good pretty solid So this is this is the this is your classic nine dollar British episode. Yes, really? Yeah, it's also it's interesting because the main character in this works is a video game reviewer in the 90s, which is what Charlie Brooker did. That's true. That's how he started his career. They didn't go with, they didn't go, well this is PC Banana magazine.
Starting point is 00:56:16 They went PC Power, or PC World or whatever. It's a real magazine. Oh, was it really? Yeah, a real magazine. Okay, great. Yeah, so this is- PC Banana magazine. Yes! Instead of. Real magazine. Okay, great. Yeah, so this is- PC Banana magazine. Yes, instead of PC Apple magazine.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah, it's interesting because, and they bring back Will Poulter as his character from Band of Snatch. Which is also- Biggest star now. Biggest star now, which is, yeah, good get. Which is also, that one, if people remember, that's the Choose Your Own Adventure Black Mirror episode.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And they never went back to that, and I'm glad glad they didn't I think they did everything they could possibly do Yeah with that but also it's interesting his game company and that from bandit and snap They also made striking vipers, which was also Just you bro in a video game That's fine. It's fine. Kiss your bro in a video game. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, so in this episode, it's the near future.
Starting point is 00:57:09 In that they say this, they passed a bill in 2029. I'm like, whoa, the far future. Hang on, what? I'm like, oh, wait, that's not far at all. No. In the future. So it said in the near future. 15 years from now.
Starting point is 00:57:20 It's something of a dystopian. The government has a computer that looks at you and has all your DNA. It's got all your DNA and it looks right at you. I'll tell you where you live. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Peter Capaldi plays a man who he gets arrested for just breaking in. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Just some petty thievery. Yeah. And they bring him into interviewing because they've learned through their DNA and looking at your machine that he might have had something to do with a murder that happened years ago. Yeah. And then we do a flashback to when he was a games journalist. He was a little bit socially awkward and he worked for PC Banana magazine review and he was tasked with reviewing an upcoming game by Will Poulter. Yep. Video game developer.
Starting point is 00:58:06 It looks like he was really slumping his shoulders. Yeah. He was like trying to make himself look like he's not enormous now. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. He's got those Adam Warlock muscles. He does exactly. Um, but this game called thronglets is kind of a lemmings s.? It's not really. Yeah. It's sort of, it's not about killing and murders. It's about creating, it's video game life. Yeah. It's life within a, and it's going to evolve in ways that not even anybody could ever imagine. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah. And so. Well, that's what the Peter Capaldi character was saying in his interview for the murder that he probably did. That's true. So he's explaining his backstory and how he got there. He's always like, I didn't used to be social, but now I am. Because I drilled into my brain. That's right.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Or maybe he was already, maybe he'd already worked on his social before that. Maybe. But anyway, sorry. Continue. But then, turns out, over the years, over the decades, he's kept giving them more and more computing power and they've achieved sentience Yep, they're gonna take over the world or it seems that way because he's been taken acid and talk Well, we also don't know we also yeah, I guess that yeah Well, I guess to a point and then you're like, oh no, this is real. Well, see, I guess that's the point
Starting point is 00:59:19 I wonder like I'm I at no point did I ever doubt that he was? Telling the truth and not into that way this computer created beings were real. I never was like well, obviously He's just an insane man. Yeah, I mean it's both. Well, he's both Yeah, I never get there I don't know if the goal was to be like do we ever do we think this guy is on the level or whatever? I think but I never I never doubted that yeah And at the end he he writes a QR code and the machine that looks at everything looks at it. And then it shuts down everybody's brain.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And maybe everybody's going to be cool after that. Makes one big utopian society. Or the world ends. Maybe he'll just kill everybody. Yeah. That's fun. Because it ends with him helping one of the police officers up, but we don't really know what that looks like. That's right.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Maybe he's going to clock like a chicken. Maybe he will. And that's all right. don't really know what that looks like. That's right. Maybe he's going to cluck like a chicken. Maybe it will. And that's all right. Um, yeah, no, I like this one. I thought I thought Peter Capaldi was fantastic. I thought he really drove this. Is this his, it's, I don't think it's his first black mirror. I think he's another black. I think so. Let me check. Yeah, check. Yeah, check. You might be thinking of Dr. Who. I'm thinking of Dr. Who because he's in Dr. Who,, but he's Doctor Who, but he was also in Torchwood. Oh, yeah, he was Torchwood.
Starting point is 01:00:28 He was Torchwood. Tommy Torchwood from In the Neighbourhood. I can't see... Well, well, well, Peter Capaldi. Let me look at his IMDB. Yeah, look at it. Doodaloo-doo. He was Doctor Who. That's true. I'd say Doctor Who might be taking a break or something.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I didn't. Well, it might be. But isn't season two just out? Yeah, but they might have to pause it for various reasons. Here we go. All right. Black Mirror. Yeah, you only did this one.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Okay, never mind then. Because he's so British. I'm thinking of... Big Mouth. The TV show Big Mouth. I'm thinking of the guy, the thick of it. I'm thinking of his character in the thick of it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:04 It was also in The Suicide Squad. Oh, yes. It was Dr. Brainiac. It was Dr. The guy, the thick of it. I'm thinking of his character in the thick of it. Yes. He was also in the Suicide Squad. Oh yes. He was Dr. Brainiac. He was Dr. Brainiac. It's true. Cool. Yep, liked it. Cool.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Ominous. Weird. 90s computer stuff. Oh, what a treat. They said Pentium Processor at one point. I was like, hell yeah. That's right. This is my jam.
Starting point is 01:01:23 There's a murder too. That's pretty good. Yeah. Band of Snatch is a real guy. Is it? Yeah. It was or it is now? No, it was. At the time? Yes. What was it? It wasn't as good. It's just RPG or whatever. I was, I wasn't, he didn't pick that name specifically because it was that game or he did. He picked the name and then there happened to be a computer game that was called Band of Snatch. No, I think he did it on purpose. Whoa. Yeah, I know, right? He he worked for PC Banana magazine or whatever. He worked for PC Banana magazine.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Great! Our next one is Eulogy. This one I really liked. This one had Buljee and Matty. Felt very British even though it wasn't. Yeah, that's right. Basically, he's at home. He's a miserable old man.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Miserable old bastard sitting alone. Unless he's got a bunch of bodies in the basement. We don't know. Yeah, he probably does. That could be the sequel. Anyway, he gets a phone call and by that I mean... Space phone call. Computer phone call.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Computer phone call. Throw up a chip on his head. Then he goes, hello, welcome to... Put a disc on your head. Welcome to Black Mirror World. You're about to have a black mirror time. And he's like, oh fuck, I don't have time for this. Make time.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Clear your calendar. Clear your calendar. It's black mirror time, all right? You're in a universe where everybody has to have some black mirror time. That's right. It's either this or we put your soul into an egg. And you're in there for eternity, all right?
Starting point is 01:02:35 Or you can just suffer through this for a couple of days. You're called buddy. You want this or you want the egg, bucko? It's something to think about though, isn't it? So basically, he's got in contact by an AI entity who tells him that a woman that he used to be madly in love with and they dated for a time has died and they basically need some memories of her for her eulogy, for a family. And like, well, you knew her in an era where we don't really know much about her.
Starting point is 01:03:05 You weren't on internet. Could you go back into your memories and brain and we'll take you through them. Could you get in this virtual car and go down the information super highway? Yeah. And then when we'll get those memories and he only has some photos and can't remember what she looks like. Yeah, but he can but he can enter. They can use the lifesaver on the side of his head
Starting point is 01:03:25 Yeah to go in walk into the photos and look around and he converses with the AI woman He goes I remember this exactly and he does remember. Yeah, and he's like this woman's a bitch Well see that what I like my heart what I liked about this one is that you know It was about memories and it was about the idea of you know Perception perception when you break up with someone and it's always like, well, this woman was crazy or whatever. Not me. No, you're right on, brother.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Thank you. Or like, you know, the idea of like, well, obvious from my perspective, this person was at fault or what have you. And then in the cold light of day in the retailing, they go, oh, actually, no, this was at least half my fault and probably more. Probably more. Yeah, it's interesting how like the way that he looks back and you paint yourself as the victim or like also you don't even have all of the information because you know, it's
Starting point is 01:04:12 often more, people I think in general aren't malicious, I guess. And I think this, you know, everybody's got their own shit going on. Yeah. Sometimes you miss a really obvious letter that somebody left for you on your hotel room floor and it's right there. And it had your name on it and everything and you're like, ah, don't worry about it. I don't want that. Yeah, but luckily I kept it somehow.
Starting point is 01:04:32 You kept it somehow, yeah. No, I thought this was terrific. I found this like really affecting as well. I thought Paul Giamatti like played it beautifully. I think the idea, so it turns out that the AI entity is actually a copy of the woman's daughter. Yeah, and they send it in advance. So that she doesn't have to.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yes. So the AI can get traumatized by any, you know, uncomfortable information. Yes. You know, and she's putting him through the bloody ring. I'll tell you that much. Yeah. So yeah, I just enjoyed that like slow kind of realization of not only kind of what he missed out on, but also that how
Starting point is 01:05:05 he treated her. Cause there's a moment where like, Oh, we started a band and she loved cello was like a main thing and he made her play keyboards in her band. Cause he was like, cello wouldn't work, but it's like probably would have. Yeah, he could have made it work, but it was ever heard of Evanescence. Yeah, man. It was the grunge era. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:22 You know, ever heard of that other one that's like Evanescence probably had a cello in it. Probably had a cello in it. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Living end. Might have been the living end. Yeah. So no, I just thought this was, yeah, and eventually obviously he gets to hear, you know, his perception of her change because he finds out that the reason that she didn't, couldn't marry him or couldn't answer that was because she was pregnant and it was this whole thing that kind of got wrapped together and there was infidelity and all of that. Oh no, I just thought it was very good. Yeah. And maybe we can all look at our memories one day and be like, fuck, I dropped that
Starting point is 01:05:54 letter. Wait, somebody put it in a book. So that's fine. And now I've got it. Now I can look at it. Yeah. Yeah. Big fan.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Like this one a lot. Yeah. I think that was one of the stronger ones You can't deny this is not a good a good cast in this. Oh my god act cast I would say not necessarily in the greatest of episodes in my opinion But sure good good cast and we got the one one left Mason the USS Callister Into infinity using the Star Trek into darkness font. Oh, I don't you notice. Oh, I didn't notice that but that's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah, one of the worst ones Yeah, so this is a sequel to the original USS Callister. Yep set in a world in which the creator of a big online Game who space sort of space exploration game
Starting point is 01:06:39 He felt he was always hard done by and bullied and etc. But luckily he had a cloning machine that puts you where he could take somebody's DNA and then turn them into a digital clone in this world. It's cool. And then then they would be turned into his crew on his ship, where he would, you know, be made. Just make fun of him. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Turn their face off. Yeah, turn their face. Absolutely turn their face off. But in this, you know, at the end of that episode, they all the digital clones of these people gained their freedom. Yeah. He died. They escaped into Star Citizen. That's right. A game that will never be finished. That's right. And then you think at the end of that one, oh, they're free to explore this infinite galaxy. And which means also that'd be conversing with real players in the real world. Yeah. But of course, the problem with that is they have limited resources and no game attack.
Starting point is 01:07:28 So they're this anomaly in this universe. And there's too many micro transactions. Too many micro transactions and they can't, they shouldn't be allowed to exist there. So there's the risk that if they get discovered, they will be deleted. And if they die in the game, they die for real. Because they don't exist. Everybody else respawns, but they don't. And we lost one of the crew members
Starting point is 01:07:47 because presumably they couldn't afford to get her back or there was scheduling conflicts. I wasn't. She's from... Oh yeah, there's a line about how she died. Yeah. Merrill Street. Yeah, it's Merrill Street.
Starting point is 01:07:58 That's what I thought. Oh, it's in Merrill Street. It's Krista Malotti. No, it's not. She's in this. She's in this. Big time. Oh yeah, because there's a throwaway line in this one about how she died, I think.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Yeah, Michaela Cole. Michaela Cole. There we go. Yeah. So I also forgot that Jimmy Simpson was in. Oh, really? This yeah, this because he's he is the he was one of the the original victims of the cloning technology He was the co-founder of the company. Yeah with this big huge nerd we see all of that in here as well, which I thought was really interesting. I think what was interesting about this is because often in this, they bring back Jesse Plemons' character because it turns out that Jimmy Simpson made a clone of him and put him in the center of the game and he spends all of his time creating different worlds for this universe. You think they're sort of procedurally generated random worlds,
Starting point is 01:08:46 but he's been creating them in this universe. And he's also, because he's obviously dead in the real world, so this is the only way that he exists. And seemingly he's like a nicer guy. And what I thought this was, what was interesting about this is... He's not. He's not. Well, I guess...
Starting point is 01:09:00 He is the... He's an early version of... Yeah, he's an early version of this guy. He is the version of he was before he became kind of bitter and yeah bullied and money and bull bullying All sort of turned him into this twisted. Yeah, but it's still kind of in the core of him is still there Yeah, yeah But I thought was interesting about like Jimmy Simpson's character is that he's way worse on the outside than he is on the inside Because he's the version of him on the inside
Starting point is 01:09:25 has experienced things that the other one hasn't and through that has learned empathy at the very least. And also he was abandoned on an alien world for the longest time in this you find that out. Billy Joel style. That's right. So yeah, I thought that was really interesting that depending where your save point is, I guess, or where you're cloned and your experiences, you just become a completely like Kristen Mulally's character is they're completely different people because one of them has been scrambling to survive in a space simulation and the other one's just going to work. Yeah, right. I loved all of that.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Which is pretty tough. I don't know if you've ever had a real job, James. I haven't, but that's that I found really interesting. Yeah, James. I haven't, but that's, that I found really interesting. And all the kind of space, they kind of lean back on the sci-fi elements in terms of like, you know, in the first one, it was a very old school Star Trek. And there is like space battles in this, but it's less for Wing Commander. Yeah, it is a bit actually. It's more kind of Star Citizen. Yeah, yeah. They kind of call it more like Star Wars even the last moment yeah true and it's sort of you know there's a there's a lot of kind of the game clearly now is some sort of like PvP kind of thing and
Starting point is 01:10:34 everybody's got everybody's got custom characters that are all you know super weird and interesting and they put that thing on the side of their head and they go into a game hell yeah they put the lifesaver there. Yeah. Boop boop boop. But the other thing I guess, the other element of this which was interesting is that in the outside, Kristen Malotti's character becomes brain dead. And so this ends with Jesse Plemons' character who she kills again. The virtual one. She's able to jump from her body in the virtual world to put her consciousness into herself,
Starting point is 01:11:07 into the brain dead version herself. And I guess her brain comes back alive. Yeah. Through various technologies. They merged. They merged. But also the remainder of the crew are also in her head. Yes. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:11:16 It's kind of, they get inside outed. Yeah, yeah. So they're watching her in her brain, seemingly trapped in there, unless there's a sequel to this. Who knows, maybe there will be. And so they're all in there and they have to call her on a phone to talk to her and they're all watching TV together or whatever. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I liked it. What did you think? I liked it also. Yeah. Just a fun one, I think. That's a fun one. Just a bit of a fun one to end on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:40 So all in all, what would you say in terms of Black Mirror? How would you rank these? Let's go. This was definitely a Black Mirror. Yeah. Oh yeah. How do you mean, right? Like in terms of other seasons? Well, you said these? This was definitely a Black Mirror. Yeah, oh yeah. How do you mean, right, like in terms of? Other say, well you said it was, you thought the last season was stronger.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I think the last season was stronger. I don't know, I think there's some really, I think those two that I didn't like, yeah, they're not great, but I think everything else was pretty strong. I mean, you know I'm a big Black Mirror opponent. You know, four out of six, pretty good. Let me see if I like four out of six.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Common people didn't like it. Bet my pretty, pretty fun. Hurt or Reverie, play thing, yeah. It was four out of six. So it's a two out of three. That's a two out of three, mate. It's two out of three. What's that as a percentage?
Starting point is 01:12:14 Two out of three ain't bad. I know it's ain't bad. As a percentage, that ain't bad. That's not bad. You could look at it that way. That's true, yeah. Yeah. Did the last season, one, two, three, four, four.
Starting point is 01:12:23 One, two, three, four, four. one, two, three, four, four, yeah, last season had five. Correct. So, you know, this had, and season five had three. That's right. So, you know, they pumped six out and isn't that good enough for you, Mason? I agree. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Season five was 2019 and then series six was 2023. There's a bit of a gap there. So I think Charlie Booker took a pause for a bit because he was like, everything's already awful. Yeah. But now he's back. That's right. And sometimes they're uplifting.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Sometimes you put a lifesaver on the side of your head. You go into a virtual world and you drink your own piss. Do Americans have lifesavers? Probably. The British have polo mints. You put an Oreo. That's what I've been talking about. Put an Oreo.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Put an Oreo on the side of your head. Put a big one. Big one. All right, should we move to the next segment? Yes. But what the hell could it be? It's what we read and what we're gonna read. It's the same every week. It's never changed.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Never changed. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? This is a fantastic segment of the show. That's right. So we talk about what we've been seeing, watching, doing, listening, running about at. Are you saying that because we've been sponsored by Fantastic Four First Steps and we're getting a lot of money?
Starting point is 01:13:33 No, Fantastic Furniture. Oh, whoa, fantastic. And it is fantastic. It is fantastic. Just like the segment. We're not saying it because we're sponsored, which we are. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:43 We're getting 5% off. Wow, that's great, I think. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, which we are. That's right. Yeah. Oh, we're getting 5% off. Wow, that's great, I think. Yeah, that's right. Because of what we have, it's fantastic. It's fantastic. Yeah. I read the latest issue of Absolute Batman
Starting point is 01:13:50 where they introduced Mr. Freeze. Oh, what's his twist? Ah, it's Freeze guy. Nice. It's different. Yeah, okay, sure. It's a bit different. Okay, that is a bit different.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I don't know if I'm sold on, Mr. Freeze isn't one of these, but all these villains are people he grew up with. Yeah, right. I don't know if I love that. Everything else I really like, that I don't know if I'm sold on Mr. Freeze isn't one of these but all these villains are people he grew up with Yeah, I don't know if I love that everything else. I really like that. I don't love yeah Is that a trope from something? No because it leans more towards I don't know just the idea that Whenever you know a show or a comic book or whatever is like to your destiny, you know, yeah I don't yeah, they can just be random guys. Yeah, but then I'm sure yeah Anyway, there's I like how big he he is I like how his chest is an axe and and he punted that baby or I did see him punt that baby I'm not caught up on
Starting point is 01:14:30 absolute Batman but I am caught up an absolute superman. I'm the one behind on that yeah. I think it's good it's great yeah it's good I love his mix of kind of tech and yeah Kryptonian powers I love I love that he had a full use in on Krypton with his birth parents. Makes him a little more alien, I think. And a little more kind of empathetic towards certain plights because he was kind of a second class citizen. Yeah, right, right, right. And the House of El symbol is not that, it's a-
Starting point is 01:14:55 The labor class. It's a status symbol, yeah. Which I thought was really interesting. Low status symbol. That's what I'm saying, it's a low status symbol. Yeah. I have Wonder Woman's really good as well. I'm not up to date with Wonder Woman. I tell you what I'm up to date with I read the first four issues of there's a new Batman series called Batman dark patterns
Starting point is 01:15:10 Yeah, and it's great. It's it's going to be self-contained Batman stories Set the first arc is three issues and it's set When he's the in his third year of being Batman's up, so many of right. That's exactly issues and it's set when he's in his third year of being Batman. Yep, Batman Year 3. That's exactly right. And it's sort of mystery and kind of low level, street level crime stuff. Does he have a computer in his cowl that can reverse a crime?
Starting point is 01:15:36 No. And then he knows who did it? He doesn't. He has to ask around. What? Yeah, he has to go to... How does he even do anything? He drives around, swings around.
Starting point is 01:15:44 He's antisocial as well. That's true actually. He's got terrible interpersonal skills. He's not fist fighting with Darkseid or fighting a robot that his alternate personality invented. Yet. Not yet, if he will. But I think it's good. Superman in it? Or is there any hints towards like any kind of... No, it's just Batman. Otherworldly characters. Okay then. Pretty good, pretty good. Oh and I finally started watching Slow Horses. And? It's good.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Why didn't you tell me about it earlier? I haven't seen it. I thought you had. No. Why didn't anybody tell me about it earlier? Yeah, good question. They did. Why didn't anybody tell you?
Starting point is 01:16:17 But it's good and now there's like at least four seasons. Yeah. That I can just get in it, which is really good. I've been watching The Pit. I'll come back to that another week. But I did watch The Man in the Iron Mask from 1998. You ever seen that? Is that the one?
Starting point is 01:16:28 With Leonardo DiCaprio, Jeremy Irons, I must have said. Gerard Depidue, Crop Loach, Gabriel Byrne, John Malkovich. Now did you watch this simply for your own enjoyment? Yeah, I remember, I loved that movie when I was a kid, and I'm like, fuck it, it's on stand.
Starting point is 01:16:43 I'm gonna watch The Man in the Iron Mask from the writer of Braveheart and I did. And? Yeah it's way worse than I remember it but it's a it's a swashbuckling good time Mason. Did we recently watch The Count of Monte Cristo for some reason? No I do like I do love that movie though the Jim Cavieza one. Yeah. He's a crook bloke. He is it's true. But that movie is incredible. That's great. And it's got Henry Cavill and Guy Pearce in it and others. It's just like nobody's using any accents. For those people who don't know, The Man in the Iron Mask, it's a guy, whatever, I forget how, it's three musketeers, but they're old. And there also was a three musketeer movie in the 90s, so you could kind of call it a
Starting point is 01:17:21 sequel to that if you wanted to, I guess. And John Malkovich is in it. He's just doing an American accent. Who's the guy who plays his son in it? He's from like Garden State. He's Hector Hammond in Green Lantern. I feel like his name's Alex something. Peter Sarsgaard. Cause he's very Malkovich kind of coded. So those two was father and son is really interesting There's dual Leonardo Caprio's because one is the man in the iron mask. No again, no accents, but like John Malkovich He's just fucking going for it. He's so good in it. Yeah, just going above and beyond This material which yet sure is not great. But I just I was like god. This is a great movie Not really, but that's what movies
Starting point is 01:18:05 used to be. That's what movies used to be just people putting on putting on a funny outfit and maybe an accent and holding a sword. Yep. And you'd be entertained for the afternoon. And you weren't like, this doesn't need any discourse. Yeah. Like Gabriel Byrne is like an aging d'Artagnan. Well, again, they're all aging. God, it's just, it's just fucking something else. You would never see it. And it's all basically done else. You would never see it now. And it's all basically done for real, because you just have to. Because it's the twist of the era, you know?
Starting point is 01:18:31 Yeah. All in all, 10 out of 10. Nice. And the pit's pretty good. I'll come back to another one. OK. It's not, it's not, it's no Man in the Iron Mask, though, is it? No.
Starting point is 01:18:38 If I had to pick one of them to watch again, it would be The Man in the Iron Mask. No, the pit is very good. It's like Scrubs but no jokes. So Scrubs. Whoa! Fucking got Bill Lawrence. Actually Scrubs had a lot of jokes in it.
Starting point is 01:18:52 It was wall to wall, Mason. Wall to wall jokes and gags. A lot of those jokes were now you love your best friend and you're gay. There's a lot of that in it, but the rest of it I feel like holds up outside of that. Yeah. Should we do the lettuce segment?
Starting point is 01:19:04 Let's do the lettuce segment. I'll start that with the letters theme and I'll listen intently My listening yes, great. I need change the pop filters. I did thanks for noticing. It's been three years That's been two weeks because normally I would rest it gently against that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These are better. Mason, if you do want to reach the show, get off Twitter. We don't do that anymore. It's a horrible nightmare side. Yacko!
Starting point is 01:19:36 Do it with bots and Nazis. And you might be like, wow, triggered much? I am. I'm very sensitive. That's right. Cry much? Yes, we do. All the time. But the time. Constantly. But you can get on the Planet Broadcasting Great Bates group. That's right. There's a thread there every week or you can simply shoot Mason a Gmail at weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com. Don't shoot Mason. Please don't. That's a crime. And don't shoot the Messenger Mason, which is the people sending you the Gmail. No, you can shoot them. That's fine. You can do it. Is what you're saying. I can do it.
Starting point is 01:20:02 All right, then you're allowed to. Here's an email from Omar Omar from Mombasa Island in Kenya. Oh hello I've been to Kenya. I'm a trucker and your rants and tangents have entertained me on long journeys for almost a decade now. Anyway I wanted to ask you guys do you think the MCU is gonna be back thanks to the next two Avengers movies in terms of box office and just in the general pop culture zeitgeist? Personally, I don't think so. No, never again. I think it will do well, but no, I don't think they'll ever reach that peak ever again.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He says, I think the next two Avengers movies, no matter how entertaining they turn out to be, are gonna be relying heavily on nostalgia. Yes, absolutely. Hell yeah. They're gonna dig so deep for nostalgia. And they're also doing, it's a starting story,
Starting point is 01:20:42 which I think is a really bizarre jumping off point. Because what have we been doing? It's true. It's like leading up to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know if you've seen this, but I've seen it. You haven't. Tell me what it is first.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Okay. In the Marvel comics currently, they're doing the Ultimates, which is the new version of, you know, the new ultimate universe. I've seen it. You've seen that. But they're also doing one World Under Doom, in which Doom unites the world under a like a united Latveria kind of thing. Cool. And it's just sort of Secret Wars again. Yeah, because that's what Secret Wars is. Yeah, but it's, it's an odd thing to do, I think.
Starting point is 01:21:17 To Doom? It is an odd. Do you think they're doing it because it ties into this? Do you think they're dooming it because it ties into this? Maybe, yeah. Yeah. One world under doom. I think it's just getting people familiar. Because they can't just re-print Secret Wars, I guess. Well, they can and they have and they don't. They do and they will. They haven't? I read this the other day that maybe the reason that manga has overtaken American comic books, you know, it's wildly popular, is because you can just, if you like, if you heard One Piece was good, you can just go into a store and volume one of one piece will be right there from like 1980 whatever it is
Starting point is 01:21:49 And then if you like it, you can buy volume two and volume three blah, but you can't do that with American comic books You can't be like, oh, I've heard Iron Man's good. I'll find the first you just can't do it. That's a very good It's just random. It's like random Compilations of and it's just because they just get constantly rebooted Yeah, like he's this this is this is actually a whole new era for Iron Man because he lost all his money And he had to build a new Iron Man suit well wow you've done it again This older environments man sooty turned evil and then it's a young version of him time traveled from past them came and then Killed him and then he took over, but now he's back and he's lost all his money, so Killed him and then he took over but now he's back and he's lost all his money So I was like I'm gonna build an iron man suit and he's an alcoholic, but it's not now. He's fine now
Starting point is 01:22:28 It's fun now, but he's looking at that bottle isn't he doesn't do a remind man. He's looking at that bottle That's interesting. I think also the difference between like one piece and fucking Marvel and DC is one kit one piece doesn't it's not intertwined with like 1000 other characters who have their own stories running at the same time. Yeah, like a lot of, there's probably a lot of story, you know, Marvel storylines where they can't just go, oh, we'll do this Captain America. Yeah. No, he's dead.
Starting point is 01:22:57 He's dead and also there's all these other minor characters we tried to introduce in the 90s. Can't do Captain America, he's looking at that bottle, he's thinking about drinking that bottle. That's right. And building an Iron Man suit. Well, it's looking at that bottle. He's thinking about drinking that bottle. That's right. And building an Iron Man suit. Well, it's a bottle of milk. He's allowed. I think we might be back for Thunderbolts though. Thunderbolts is looking good.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I mean, when you say back. Not financially. Yeah. But I think quality wise. Yeah, well, the screenings are apparently good. And this is the one I've been most interested in this year. This is the one I am looking forward to. And they're actually doing some stunts for real.
Starting point is 01:23:22 I don't know if you saw that clip, Florence Pugh jumping off a building. Yeah, she jumped off a thing or whatever. I mean, you're getting paid to do it. So don't come at me with how you're getting paid to do a goddamn job. Okay. Who are you talking to? Me or Florence Pugh? Okay. I'm lost.
Starting point is 01:23:35 You are? Yeah. Mason, I need you to walk me to my room after this. Okay. Got one here from Luke. Luke Pearlberg, who says, What do you reckon Warner Brothers and DC will do in the unfortunate and unlikely event that Superman is in great slash doesn't
Starting point is 01:23:49 do well? I mean, they'll have to get out Supergirl and Peacemaker because those are happening regardless. I think they're going to defer to the Minecraft movie and the Barbie movie. Absolutely. Recognized IP. I think they'll get Christopher Nolan back to do whatever. Minecraft sequel. Minecraft maybe. And then they're just going to make Batman movies again and again forever. And that will be the plan.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Yeah. What do you think? All great points. We didn't mention this up top, but apparently there's David Zaslav's salary this week. This year is $52 million. Hell yeah. Well, good for him.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Yeah. Yeah. I think it will be Minecraft sequels. You could forego that. Yeah, I guess. will be minecraft sequels. Um, you could forego that Yeah, I guess but why would you if you've got billionaire's disease? Yeah What? Do you think video game adaptations are the new superhero movies? I think it's IP I don't yeah, I don't think you should look at minecraft and learn anything
Starting point is 01:24:40 No, but other than that, I think it's recognizable IP that can be packaged in a format that people will find palatable. I wonder if the sequel, the inevitable sequel, will do these numbers or do you think people will be like, we did the meme thing last time and we're tired of doing the meme thing. But also because the thing about video game, well the thing about superhero universes is you've got the big two and then if the first movie works, then they just apply the same formula that they learn for all the next one and the next one and the next one. But there's no two big silos for video game movies.
Starting point is 01:25:15 You can't just go, I guess maybe Sony, but the people that made the Minecraft movie can't immediately go, well, what else do we have? Yeah, that we can apply this and then I've got minecraft dungeons and other yeah Yeah, like there are different things within minecraft. Yeah, do like the Lego movie is not just a Lego movie They didn't enjoy that it Batman. Whatever. Yeah, I mean our options would include Grand Theft Auto yeah, I think grass if daughter work. Some people suggested the Red Dead Redemption series, but that's just a cowboy. Just a western, right?
Starting point is 01:25:47 I mean, I guess you got different coats. Yeah. And maybe you get a guy going, well, Arthur, and then everybody in the cinema goes, yes, he said it. And then everyone just, you just reach over and you cut the throat of the person in front of you.
Starting point is 01:25:58 That's right. And that's Red Dead Redemption. Grand Theft Auto. Grand Theft Auto, I think they've said they're not gonna do it, but probablyemption. I think Grand Theft Auto. I think they've said they're not going to do it but probably Fortnite. I mean, you know. And they'll get Ninja and he'll be like remember me and we'll be like, not really. I know that's a mean thing to say about Ninja but he's not going to hear this. You say that like I know anything about Ninja. Is that a mean thing to say about
Starting point is 01:26:20 Ninja? I don't know. Yeah, well, you know, some people they're hot and they pop off. They're hot and they pop off. That're hot and they pop off. That's so true. They've got that zips habsoo. And some people just say middling podcasters, which is a very safe place to be. That's right. Not really.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Can't lose. What's next, Mason? Here's an email from Kyle. Kyle? Payback sequel. So it might be of interest to Mesa that a sequel to Payback is in the can and has received an R rating.
Starting point is 01:26:43 It's by Shane Black and based on the Play dirty novel so last week what's a couple of weeks ago I mentioned well James don't don't Google yet I have all the information for you you're gonna love it okay fine can I Google something else no don't Google anything ever again okay um last week I mentioned that I would have loved to have seen a sequel to the Mel Gibson movie payback I said there was just to say them that's right they're the Richard Stark series of novels that is a bunch to draw on about a character called Parker. And of course there was a Jason Statham movie called Park. It's not very good. But Kyle says, I'm a huge fan
Starting point is 01:27:14 of the Parker Richard Stark novel. So I was excited to hear that was in the works a few years ago when it was going to be Shane Black and Robert Downey Jr. and possibly a franchise. Oh, I DJ wouldn't have been my first choice for the role, but I was excited to hear about more adaptations down the down of the works. I DJ stepped down at some point and now it's going to be Marky Mark Walberg. Right. And they filmed this. Apparently it's in the works. But they filmed it in the can. I don't know what says in the can. That's true. Now can I Google it? Yes, you can Google it. So you don't have all the information. That's true. I don't have any of the information. That was a trap.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Play dirty, yeah. What's the last thing? He was in Spencer. Do you remember Spencer confidential? He fights Post Malone in a prison. Do you remember that? I haven't seen that or I don't know what you're talking about. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:56 You can't have Spencer and Parker. I agree. You can't have Spencer for hire and also Parker sometimes for hire. Black is the co-writer based on the film? Does it say in the can? In the can status tick? No it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:28:09 It just says it all was 2024 was a real that the film will be based on the Parker novel The Hunter marking it the third book. I mean I guess if you wanted to someone in the spirit of Mel Gibson you would get Mark Walberg. Yeah I guess you would. I don't know. I don't know about this. Maybe it is. Maybe they have filmed it. I don't know. I got one here, Mason. Good email though. Koi Wolf says, cinemas are playing with the ideas to make going to the movies better. What would you say should be done by cinemas to bring in large crowds and include more moviegoers. It's too expensive.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Yeah, sure. And like we've mentioned before, in America they have that AMCA list or whatever where you can pay a fixed fee for a month and you get as many movies you want. We don't have that in Australia. And also everything is available all the time at once at home. Movies that come out and don't do big numbers, three weeks later they will be on streaming. Or you can torrent them. Whatever your proclivity happens to be. This to me feels like a supply side problem.
Starting point is 01:29:13 The movie studios need to commit to, we will keep it in cinemas for a month. A month's not enough. I don't think. Let some word of mouth spread. You can't stop this because this is the era that we live in. There's just too much and there's too much going on and people are busy and tired and they can just put on Netflix and watch the man in the iron mask. That's on Stan.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Red notice. Yeah, they can watch red notice again and again. So I don't know. I think it's, I think it's not one thing, but I think cost and like, I don't know. I think it's not one thing, but I think cost. And like, I don't know. The cinema is not always a great experience. You know? And you've got to take time out of your day to go and sit through something. And if you're going to do that, you want it to be good. Otherwise it's like, I could have put this on at home and watched 10 minutes of it and gone for a walk.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I could have imagined my own version of Madame Web. Exactly. Where it's worse. It's worse. But it's my kind of worse. That's right. So I don't know. Yeah, just cheaper, I guess. Cheaper and longer, like you said, longer in cinemas. Yeah. I think also like there's this idea that the only movies that are worth seeing are kind of tentpole big experiences, you know, like even Minecraft, which sucks. It was the best movie ever. I did.
Starting point is 01:30:29 I stand by that is that, you know, like Barbie or Oppenheimer or whatever. It's like you only go to like the things that are culturally significant, which is a shame because there's just good movies. Yeah. I don't know. Have people throwing fucking popcorn? The moment for it being culturally significant is often really short. Yeah. Like apparently the drop off of Minecraft has not been significant. Like it's still doing quite well. But is it going to be there in three weeks? Or is everybody going to be like, well, that's over now? I mean, it's also like, you know, kids keep going again and again. That's so true. I don't know. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Yeah, but also like, I don't know, how do you normalise like, just a regular cinema going experience and seeing a, just seeing a good movie? Like Black Bag. Yep. It's a good movie. I agree. Anyway, that's- I think Sinners will also be a good movie.
Starting point is 01:31:19 I hope so. Well, it's supposed to be very good. Got a couple more emails. This is from Nick from Michigan. I'll hear him out. With a lot of superhero movies coming out being a resounding meh and requiring 100 writers for some odd reason, do you see any value
Starting point is 01:31:32 in bringing in actual comic book writers to Pen Script? I'd love to see a Chip Zdarsky pen Spider-Man script or Scott Snyder handling Batman. What do you think? What do you think? Yes, but also skills don't always necessarily translate. Okay. And also a script doesn't necessarily go go make its way to the screen fully formed. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Also there's probably some union things as well. Probably and you have to pay more money. I bet there is a sort of a real issue getting comic book writers into like the screenwriting somehow. Yeah. Early days of Marvel, MCU, they had a comic book room. They had a bunch of famous comic book writers. Stan Lee was in there, Jack Kirby.
Starting point is 01:32:11 You mean the MCU, James? What did I say? You said Marvel. Yeah, Marvel. That is Marvel. Steve Ditko was there. Stan Lee was in there. He was like, whatever, Spider-Man had a spider power.
Starting point is 01:32:21 What if, Stan? What if, all right? We did those already. I'm hearing this for the first time. What if Stan? What if, all right? We did those already. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, yeah. I'm hearing this for the first time. I like the idea of it. Yeah, try it. Yeah. Or just original, more original ideas. Or Secret Wars again. Or Secret Wars again, I suppose. This one's from Mitch Craig who says, do you have any standby cogs? Caravan of garbage. Oh yes. How many, what are they? We have have a one we played years ago a Terminator salvation video game one
Starting point is 01:32:48 But it's nothing I'll never release it and people might be like I want to say you don't it's not that interesting And I've got one from a Hellboy animated movie again from years ago, which was like it wasn't terrible But I just didn't get no memory of that at all. And also This one that I'm pretty sure is gone forever because it's on an old laptop This one is from like probably eight years ago. We did a death of Superman Video game playthrough. We didn't even get very far. It wasn't very interesting. Okay, and that was those but they'll and You probably never say them They'll end up on a laptop and then that laptop will go in a pile of dead laptops
Starting point is 01:33:23 Yeah, and then that will be thrown into your grave. Correct. Yeah, the big pile. Here's one Marie-Melle James. But we do back, like we get ahead of him. Yeah, that's true. We're normally at least two weeks ahead. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Here's one Marie-Alf. This is from Ryan. Ryan! Hey fellas, I'm writing to you from Vancouver. Whoa! What is the first thing you do when the recording stops? I just finished listening to an episode and I really wondered what you guys say to each other after the bye that we get every week. Huge fan, day one big sandwich subscriber, big love from Vancouver. I mean it's not that indifferent.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Indifferent? It's pretty indifferent. It's not that different. What are you, what are you, yeah? We just, we're the same. I guess when we switch off. Oh no, I think he means physically, what do we do? Oh, well I send the files to Collings and then we leave the room.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Sometimes we watch a Mr. Beast video and go, God. People know about that. People know about that. Sometimes we go for a little walk. Sometimes we go for a walk. Sometimes we get Red Rooster. Sometimes we won't get Red Rooster tonight, I would say. It's too late for Red Rooster.
Starting point is 01:34:14 It's too late for Red Rooster, we'd die. It's too late. What else do we do? Pat the dog. Pat the dog. I'll probably have a shower. Yep. Yeah, get ready for bed.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Sure. Probably smoke a cigarette. Whoa. I probably smoke 10 cigarettes. You probably smoke 10 cigarettes. I probably, yeah. But can you beat that record tonight? Yeah. 11 cigarettes. Easy. Easy. Okay. I'll be practicing smoking 10 and a half cigarettes. Oh wow. I reckon you can break that barrier. I don't really smoke cigarettes before bed. Everybody. Sure. So they know. That would be insane. I drive home or if I haven't driven, I'll get the train. Yeah. But today he drove. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Very good. Thank you. It's probably it really. It's not very interesting, is it? No. Yeah. Normal life happens. Sometimes I go straight back into parenting. Depending if I have to. That's yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Sometimes I go visit somebody. What's going on? Maybe I'll do that. And sometimes we have salacious gossip about people We know that we do we do that sometimes quite a bit. Yeah, we're like, I'll remember this idiot and then we'll Talk about how much of an idiot they are, but it might be for like a really long time. It's also Nobody at anybody would know that's true or an interesting person, but we get locked into it. Yeah, that's it That's the whole thing. Yeah, you want to know what's crazy thing that happened? See this air conditioner?
Starting point is 01:35:28 Yeah, I've seen it. I turned it on the other day. And I heard this scuttering. Oh. And then something- A scuttered air conditioning. And then this fell out and started wiggling around. That's like a worm.
Starting point is 01:35:39 It's the tail of a gecko. Oh. So there's a gecko in there and it either got- dropped its tail in a panic, or... Cause it knew you were coming at it. Yeah, or it got jammed. And then it was, I've got a video. I'm gonna throw this outside.
Starting point is 01:35:53 You should throw it outside. Why you've kept it this long is maddening to me. I forgot! All right. And it was just wiggling around on the floor. Oh, wiggling around. You wanna see a video of it? Mm, I guess.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Here we go, man. I made chocolates with my kids today. That was fun. We made our own fillings. Took this out. Air conditioning unit. Yeah. Whoa, it's moving. It's wriggling. It's crazy. That is crazy. Life's crazy sometimes. There's a gecko in my air conditioning unit. Might still be in there. Hang on. You're just recalling the plot of the best black mirror episode. Remember when there was a gecko in that guy's air conditioning unit? I think that's a red mirror episode you'll find basically Alright, that's the show.
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Starting point is 01:36:57 That's right. Every piece of content or IP we talk about is on a different world. So that counts as planets. Idiot. No thank you for the review. This one's from para deus who says pretty nice time. Beat sitting in silence and staring at the wall. Five stars. Sometimes it does. Yeah sometimes it does. Absolutely right.
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Starting point is 01:38:43 Yeah. Next week, the movie Sinners. Can't wait. I'm excited. I hope it's good. Ryan Coogler's next. Michael B. Jordan and Michael C. Jordan. Let's frickin' go. Let's frickin' go. Oh, and it's still school holidays. So good luck with that, Mason. Kids aren't going to see Sinners. They're loving Sinners.
Starting point is 01:38:58 They're not. They're seeing two Michael B. Jordans and watching them kiss. That's probably true. Don't you think? Kids probably like that. They probably do. You know what they're up to. Creeps, all of them. That's right. Alright, thanks everyone. Grab that gym you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Boop. Should we leave it recording and then people know what our lives are like? Yeah, okay. Yeah. Butler, bring us more champagne. Ah, very good. Caviar. This isn't the champagne or caviar that I wanted. Let's belt him. Yeah, let's beat him up and kill him and then we'll get a different butler. That's right. Which is easy for us. Rich. So rich. Yeah we've killed
Starting point is 01:39:28 nine butlers. Oh this is great. This week. Yeah. Yeah it's great isn't it? It's great. People think we're common men. But we're not. We're not. That's right. Why we why are we still recording this? I want people to know. Okay. Yeah and they'll think it's a joke ah Yep, but it's not a joke. We're really like that's right. We're murderers of butlers But I think it's also a testament to our professionalism that we while we're killing this butler We still talk like this agreed. You know yeah, Collins has cut out all the murder noises I don't think he has we're just really good at this. It's good with silent murder on a butler. Yeah, yeah, all right I was gonna say goodbye, but we already did that that's right
Starting point is 01:40:04 So I guess we'll just stop the recording and upload this as is the evidence of our murder. Correct. A butler murder.

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