The Weekly Planet - 575 New Superman Trailer & Andor Season 2

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

Nobody is complaining about a brand new episode of The Weekly Planet podcast! This week we review Andor Season 2 which is probably the best Star Wars we'll ever see and why bother trying anything else.... Plus Superman 2025 gets a new trailer as does Ironheart and Spider-Man Noir, the first reactions to Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning, an MCU Annihilator movie, HBO Max is HBO Max again, a Rambo Prequel movie and more. Thanks for listening!Maso on the Murph's Tavern podcast: https://murphstavern.podbean.com/e/111-dont-have-a-stegosaurus-man-with-lisa-dib-nick-mason/New ep of our bonus clickbait podcast out now! Plus entire back-catalogue of let's play videos, bonus pods, movie commentaries, early access and ad-free episodes all available on https://bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:00 Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning's First Reactions07:33 An MCU Annihilator Movie Maybe10:55 Rambo Prequel Film Happening14:18 David Zaslav's DCU Pillars15:41 It's HBO Max Again17:15 Ironheart Trailer22:34 Spider-Man Noir Trailer23:50 New Superman Trailer36:09 Andor Season 2 Spoiler Review (TW: SA - skip 2mins after James mentions warning)01:22:25 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:25:36 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:47 The Weekly Planet. Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sandean with me as always. It's my absolute pleasure to introduce Nick Mason. It's my absolute pleasure to be introduced. What a fun time. Are you great? Mason, you excited for a big episode this week? I am excited for a big episode. We're finally going to be talking about Andor.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And we're talking about that Superman trailer. They're going to be talking about the Superman trailer. And then other stuff of very little consequence. Et cetera and so forth. Et cetera and so forth. Like a John Rambo prequel. You know about this? No. Well, you're going to know about it, Mason. Do we just have a John Rambo prequel. You know about this? No. Well you're gonna know about it, Mason. Do we just have a John Rambo?
Starting point is 00:01:25 It's my absolute delight to introduce you the concept of a John Rambo prequel movie. It's my absolute delight to be introduced to it. Now that I think about it. Did I say trailer? I didn't mean to say trailer if I said trailer. You said trailer. I don't mean that. What are you doing? It's my absolute delight to retract that.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Okay, what are you introducing though with delight or without delight? There's another rambo... because we just got the Rambo. We just got a Rambo prequel movie. We just got a Rambo something, didn't we? Didn't Stallone write that? Didn't he co-write a Working Man? Yeah. And it was just Rambo Last Blood again? It was good. It wasn't that good. No, no, it didn't make us say movies are back. No, it certainly didn't. Even though movies are back and we know that. Well, they will be this week when Tom Cruise does a big mission impossible. I mean streaming TV's back Yeah, the end of this week. It'll be gone. Oh my god for good. Right all your subscriptions folks I've never made TV's peaked. Yep sessions over
Starting point is 00:02:17 Handles over. Yep. Ah Lionheart's coming. Oh, yeah Come on, man. I Think it looks pretty real with it. I think it looks pretty good. Let's be real with each other. I think it looks pretty good. Okay, look, we're going to talk about a bunch of stuff. There's time codes below if you do want to jump to anything.
Starting point is 00:02:31 We're going to talk about the Mission Impossible 8, the critical reviews. We're going to talk about- Hope it's not too Mission Impossible 8. Whoa, it's probably not. We'll talk about Marvel developing an Annihilator's movie. Then that John Rambo prequel trailer that you were talking about. I wasn't, I'm so confused about that. We're going to talk about who the-
Starting point is 00:02:49 I think you're confused too. I've never done anything. We're going to talk about what David Zaslav says are the four pillars of the DC universe going forward. We're going to talk about HBO Max is back. It's back. And then trailers for Superman, Ironheart and Spider-Man Noir. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:07 We're going to do all things and all. And all. I think we're going to break down each arc, I guess. OK, let's break down some arcs. Again, time goes below. Rob Collings and we had it's this. It's my absolute delight to tell you that he always puts the time codes in.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It's my absolute delight to know that and have fun with it. Oh, it's also my absolute delight to say that this week I was on my friend Murph's podcast, Murph's Tavern, where he loves The Simpsons and he always talks about The Simpsons. He brings in guests and they talk about Simpsons episodes seemingly at random. I was going to say, so it's not like episode to episode. It's not in sequential order, no. But we talked about Black Widower, which is the episode where Sideshow Bob Marry Selma.
Starting point is 00:03:43 That's a good episode. That's a classic episode, right? Does he just mostly look at classic episodes or is every now and then he's like, season 19, let's go. I was kind of hoping for a new episode. Oh, okay. Like a new season episode so I could watch one of those for the first time and go, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:00 You can still do that. I could and I did. In your own time. That's right. Yeah. But anyway, people should check that out. All right fun great a lot of time for me a great guy I don't know him. Do I have a lot of time for him? You could and you should where's he live? Collings headed this out. How far is he from me a long way probably other side of the city I don't want to do this anymore. Collin. You can leave all that in. Okay terrific. That's
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's great. I don't want to meet your stupid friend, but we recorded the state library So that's right in the middle. That is right in the middle, but it would still mean I'd have to go to the state library. Take the train in. Take the train in? Or drive in and have a lot of difficulty parking in the middle of the city. I don't want to do either of those things! You can get a fine.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You get a parking fine. God. I had to get the train the other day. I'm sitting there like, look at this. Look at this shit. Just looking out the windows. Look at this. Look at this scumbag I'm sitting across from.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Look at him. Yuck look at the windows. Look at this scumbag I'm sitting across from. Look at him. Yuck. That was alright. Public transport is good. Mason, Mission Impossible 8 has got a pretty strong Rotten Tomatoes score. I believe it's somewhere in 88%. It's 8. Whoa. It is 8, right? That's Hitler's Rotten Tomatoes rating. That's pretty high for Hitler, don't you think? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:05:07 That's really upsetting. 81% at the moment. That just means that 88% of the reviewers have said that he's more positive than he is negative. Yeah, but I have a problem with that. You clearly have a misunderstanding about how Rotten Tomatoes works. I think that in itself is very problematic. I agree, but we're not Rotten Tomatoes works. I think that in itself is very problematic. I agree. But we're not Rotten Tomatoes accredited reviewers.
Starting point is 00:05:28 That's a good point, because you've got to submit like three reviews a week or whatever the fuck that system is. Anyways, you've explained what Rotten Tomatoes is, right? So it's basically, yeah, it means that the reviews are more positive than negative. You can go a movie, yeah, it was all right. And that is a positive review. And you get to choose your own, right? Yes. Like as a reviewer, you give your review and then say overwhelmingly or overall I think my review is positive and then you give it the tomato. It's the best movie, you have the worst movie of a situation.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Which we invented. The tomato and not the snot. Yes, that's right. Because that's what it is, right? Tomato and snot. Yes, tomato's tomato and snot. So yeah, here's some... I wouldn't say it's universal though. Here's some more of the negative reviews. But again, pretty positive in general. Sebastian Cavala Khan says, It may not be the most coherent film in the franchise, but floors and all,
Starting point is 00:06:18 I really enjoyed it. Now it's time to put Cruises Ethan Hunt to rest. Let's put him out to pasture. And this from Chris Basanti who says, a gargantuan, exhaustive and exhausting ticking clock thriller that tries hard in so many ways that are simultaneously charming and brow-beating. And David Sexton says, so Tom Cruise has produced yet another thumping vehicle for himself, a great action hero, the would-be savior of marquee cinema and the world, yet he remains peculiarly unrelatable or what review was that
Starting point is 00:06:50 that was from David Sexton well David Sexton said 48 degrees north 23 degrees south what are you doing sextant I did another one for one of the other reviews but I've forgotten um Kavala Khan Sebastian Kavala Khan sounds like somebody's my auntie that some that like somebody's just made a fake name up out of random Marvel characters. I am looking forward to this. Me too. I want to see the excess of it. I want to know how silly it gets.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I want to know if he goes into a machine that hasn't go through all the Mission Impossible movies. Oh my God, that'd be so exciting. If that happens, nobody tell me because it is screening. You can go and see it at the moment. Well, yeah, in Australia, or in Melbourne at least. Play out this weekend, yeah. Normally, a movie will come out on Thursday,
Starting point is 00:07:31 and sometimes there'll be a preview on Wednesday. But in this, it's debuting on Saturday. So it's either quite early or quite late. I think late. I agree. It's so 2000 and late. Anyways, again. Hey, that's my line. Who knows? What is it? You invented that?
Starting point is 00:07:47 I invented that. Okay. Um, well, it's my pleasure for me to say that you didn't. Thank you. So... Well, it's my pleasure to be corrected so publicly. That must be embarrassing. But... My pleasure. Mason, you're looking forward to it, I assume? Yes, of course. Would you be okay if they were like, this is it, he dies or whatever, or they pretend that he dies? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Also, Emilio Estevez has come out and said he's definitely dead and not coming back. I don't know if you heard that. What about his character? They didn't even know. Yes, because he's dead? Yeah, he's dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Anyway, this one's by Daniel Richmond. That'll be next week's episode. Apparently, we've heard this before, but they're developing an Annihilators movie for the MCU. Oh, yes. And in October of 2024, Alex Pratt of the Cosmic Circus said, there were plans to have Chris Pratt's Star-Lord form the Annihilators. I don't know what the plan is now.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Who are the Annihilators, Mason? What do you know? Well, see, it's Star Lord. That's interesting because Star Lord is not of the power level of the Annihilators. The Annihilators essentially is the Avengers, except it's the huge, it's like the cosmic heavy hitters. So thus far we haven't really seen that many of them. So like So far we haven't really seen that many of them so like run in the accuser as you mentioned earlier off air dead Yeah, there's a lady version Ron it the accuser the cues accuse arena this is an accuse arena because But they'll be you know, Peter a bill yeah, we know exists in this universe Yeah, I'm a statue of or at least he's alien race. Yeah, although he doesn't because but not all of better
Starting point is 00:09:24 I bills race look like that horse face thing No, he's been modified to look like that. They look like less of a horse face man What's more like a like a like like I think I have no nose But they modify him like that to be a horse face warrior. I guess that's true mighty horse faced warrior Yeah, but like he doesn't wield Mjolnir. Does he he has Yeah, but like he doesn't wield Mjolnir does he? He has. Yeah, initially he does. Yeah, then he gets his own one He gets Stormbreaker. That's right. Which is a different Stormbreaker than Thor's Stormbreaker. And yeah, okay. What does Chris Masterson, what is he? Thunderstrike. Thunderstrike. What does he keep? What does he wield? He's got a mace. He had Mjolnir for a while.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, but then he got a mace. Is it a magic mace or a regular mace? It's a can of mace. Can of mace. I guess that would be pretty handy. Cool. Okay. Okay. So we're getting Silver Surfer. Silver Surfer is often in the Annihilators. Quasar we haven't had yet. Nova. We've got the Nova Corp. We don't have an individual Nova yet.
Starting point is 00:10:20 No, that's true. Who else could we... You could add in Adam Warlock? Yeah, that's a raw gladiator. Who's like he's like He's like Superman, but he's only super when he's a really confident. Oh cool. So that's fun Etc others. I would just be confident. Yeah, but again, it is you know here where we're going with you know, it's the MCU So it's like Thunderbolts. It's like, we use the name who we got exactly. So I mean, we might get who could we get? Like it might have Valkyrie on the team. Put Korg on I guess you could. Yeah, put Korg on. Yeah. Um, who else?
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah, maybe. Yeah, he's all those guys. Like, he maybe. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. He's doing other stuff. He's not really... You could get Thor, but he costs $50 million. Yeah, that's right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:12 They're already bankrupt from Endgame and Doomsday. And apparently they're doing a grittier Thor. That's the idea next. Grit in his beard. That's right. Grit in his hair. Grit in his underpants. He's so mad.
Starting point is 00:11:22 They did say that Star-Lord was coming back at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy 3. Well, maybe Star-Lord is underpants. Yeah. So mad. They did say that Star Lord was coming back at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy 3 Okay, well maybe Star Lord is organizing them. He's there. Yeah, you know, we need you Star Lord. Hmm We're really powerful. We need you for a reason Cosmos based on unit sometimes I have never read a new latest comic with never read one. I'm interesting fake fan Fake fan alert everybody and it's my pleasure to agree with you Mason That's right. Fake fan alert everybody. And it's my pleasure to agree with you. Mason. This is by Deadline. Go on.
Starting point is 00:11:50 They say you want a Rambo prequel? No. You want to know how Rambo got PTSD? No. It happened in Vietnam. You want to see it? No. Do you want to?
Starting point is 00:12:00 No. No. I'm shutting this down. I don't want this. You know John Rambo's like maybe two and a half of those movies are good? No, no, I'm shutting this down. I don't want this. You know, John Rambeau's like maybe two and a half of those movies are good. Yeah. You want another one?
Starting point is 00:12:10 It's a prequel. No. You guys, where you sat. You tried to trick me there. You tried to get a rhythm going. I would say yes to a couple of things and then I'd say yes to that. But I'm aware of your tricks and I'm saying no, I don't want a Rambeau prequel. You want to see him kill in the Vietnamese?
Starting point is 00:12:22 No. Mason. Joe Mar- Oh'll be luck. Mari Helenda, he directed Sisu. I don't know if you saw that. It's a Nazi movie. I have seen it on the Sisu diet. Oh yeah, you're on the Sisu diet.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Correct. And? Well there's no food that starts with that. So sushi? Yep. I'm just eating a lot of that. Okay, great. I enjoyed it. So apparently the story will follow young John Rambo during his time in the Vietnam War. Casting is described as being in the early stages. Terrific. Yeah, that's how you
Starting point is 00:12:54 describe it. Okay. Yeah. Apparently the hope is to have principal photography happen in Thailand later this year. And apparently also the door is open for Stallone to return in some capacity. Sure. Probably not as young John Rambeau I'd imagine. Probably not. I want to say prequels to all of Stallone's characters. Prequel Rocky. Yeah, Rocky but I don't know, he's not anything.
Starting point is 00:13:17 He hasn't thought about boxing yet. Just works in a shop. Rocky what are you thinking about? Nothing. Rocky do you have a dream? Nah, man. Hey Rocky, you want to be the best? Not really. I just want to clock off and go
Starting point is 00:13:38 home and watch some TV. Break some thumbs or whatever I do. Oh yeah, I do that as well. Don't you break thumbs? Oh yeah. I'm actually in the middle of breaking your thumbs. I forgot. I mean there's so many other options. You know still you could have a demolition man prequel. Just a cop. You could have a, yep, you could have a rhinestone prequel. What? He did a musical. Oh yeah. You could have a, they wonder his arm wrestling prequel. Judge Dredd prequel, Stop
Starting point is 00:14:07 and My Mom Will Shoot prequel. These are all good. Stop and My Mom Will Give Birth to Me. Yeah. Because it's a prequel. What do you think about Expendables? I don't like them. I would say on balance, that franchise is mostly bad.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Although I didn't see the last one. I would say all bad. Yeah, okay. I didn't see it either. Yeah, I would say, there is that, we did see three and it's got that Kelsey Grammer montage, where they was wearing different outfits and they're going around. Oh yeah, right. And that's fun.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it's, what a waste of a bunch of like legendary performers' talents is what I'm saying. Just do like a mediocre, middle-aged action movie. Yeah, they don't know. Hey, should we showcase all their, all the best of the stuff of what they do now is what I'm saying. Just do like a mediocre, you know, alright action movie. Hey, should we showcase all their, all the best of the stuff of what they do now? I don't think we should. That's Statham.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Wow. I don't think we should. That's how he talks in real life. I don't want to do that. I used to dive. I was great at it. I don't want to do it now though. Um, yeah, cool. I mean, he's a good director. Why not? Let's have a Vietnam War movie with G4One. No, we're not. Yeah, it. I mean, he's a good director. Why not? Let's have a Vietnam War movie. Would
Starting point is 00:15:06 you for one? No, we're not. Yeah, it's time. Mason David Zaslav. You know him. He's the Warner Brothers discovery head of Ruining things. Yeah, he is. He had a Q1 investor call or whatever they do. No, he said this is good. He said when you look at the major characters with that James Gunn and Peter Safran are developing with their 10 year plan around DC, that is to build asset value for us globally everywhere in the world.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Oh hell yeah. Globally everywhere in the world. Well said, dipshit. He mentions these. Wonder Woman. I can't talk. What am I even saying? I'm barely literate.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Sure. Yell at this man. Who sucks, by the way. He sucks. Wonder is who he named Wonder Woman, Batman, Superman, Supergirl. Incredible stuff. So David Zazlev. They said, so those are, we look at those as big asset builders and big differentiators.
Starting point is 00:15:59 So true. Is that how you look at them? I mean, it has sort of reframed my worldview just now. Yeah. So I think I now I do see them as big differentiators and assets and assets. Yeah. So I guess the interesting one in there is like he mentioned one when there's nothing been officially announced.
Starting point is 00:16:17 That's true. James Gunn recently mentioned on that social media platform that he likes that they are moving forward, but he's got nothing to kind of comment on. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, I'd like to say, I know Gal Gadot is out. Good. Let's do something else with Wonder Woman. And also, you might have seen this as well, HBO Max is now HBO Max again. Terrific. So it was HBO, then it became HBO Max, and then it became just Max.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Wasn't there HBO Now or something? Yeah, maybe that happened also. And then it's back to HBO again now What a small waste of everyone's time. Absolutely fucking out the amount of man hours into this apparently I read and I'm I'm not sure if this is true But let's assume it is true that this almost all of this is the result of someone going we should change it to max and then Like some executive and then all the they let's do some research on this and all the market research was like, don't just leave it. Yeah, HBO is the why? Yeah, yeah. But the executive was like, No, no, I know, we're doing it. I know things. Yeah. Oh, do
Starting point is 00:17:19 you see when James young was announcing something in the video and he's like, John Cena, maybe that might have been peacemaker. It was John Cena as peacemaker and it's him like Some sort of behind the scenes in his it's clearly one of the things where is the peacemaker thing and he's like, you know He's gonna do promo for HB or whatever and they're receiving the information in real time It's like so should I just say HBO I'll say HBO Max if this is what it is now. Yeah Great stuff. It was a real felt like a real Krusty the Clown situation. Yeah, boy did it. So yeah, that's happening and now we all know.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I don't think anybody... Do we call it Max? I don't remember. No, but it's just been launched as Max in Australia. Yeah, they literally... Like three weeks ago or something. They don't care about us. They don't care.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And why should they? We don't care about them. We should all turn our backs on each other. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Trail they? We don't care about them. We should all turn our backs on each other. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Trailers of Hoi Mason. Honk.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Hell yeah. We're starting with a big trailer or are we starting with some little losers trailers? What would you like to do? Big... No, let's end with Superman. Okay. Well, let's do this. Ironheart.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Now, recently, Bob Iger, your dad and CEO of Disney came out and said... Not a joke that's ever worked. It's not a joke! It's actually true. I'm delighted to announce that is not a joke, that's real. So he said that, um, remember he was like Marvel is good now. And it was like, because there was a thunderbolt, he said actually this is good and they're all good now. That's true. The previous ones were bad.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yep. The ones he didn't like were bad. Even though Daredevil was good and Agatha was good, etc. But that's the fault of other people besides me, he said. Yeah, but it's good from now on. So is this in the Marvel is actually good phase or because it was filmed like, I don't know, seven years ago? At the point where there were no showrunners or something. Yeah, is this in that?
Starting point is 00:18:59 Kevin Feige got two seconds of like Zoom call time with the showrunners or whatever. Now this has been like downvoted into oblivion. Yeah. And look, I don't think it's a great trailer, but let's be clear. There's a bunch of fucking racists running hate campaigns for this and have been. I thought it was generally pretty good. I'll tell you for, I'll tell you for reasons. One, it's iron heart versus a guy that isn't just another iron heart.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Good point. I think that's cool. That's good. Uh, I looked way better. So it looks way better. If the diversion she got in Wakanda in, in, uh, like pants, the two did not look good. I don't tell you, tell me it's got it.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It's it's they've gone back to the suit actually is mechanically operated and it's not nanotech and it looked, I think it looks lot better yeah think it looks tremendous we get a truck flip we got that yeah exactly I got a truck flip um I just don't think there's anything here I went whoa okay like there's nothing that right me Alden Ehrenreich's in it yeah that's true actually I did well a bit for that yeah yeah he's got a his deal I don't know he's got some sort of secret hideout full of stuff I feel like they should have put him like make him a real character he might be a real cat I don't think he is's got some sort of secret hideout full of stuff. I feel like they should have put him, like make him a real character. He might be a real character.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I don't think he is. I think he's just like a small tech guy. Could be a guy. Well, he could be like, I don't know, a Spider-Man or something. I don't know. He could be a Spider-Man. That's true. Maybe he is a Spider-Man. Maybe I'm misreading this, but you know, I feel like it's like, yeah, who else is in the minor role? I also thought it was interesting that...
Starting point is 00:20:24 It's like when they put that dude from The Quiet Place in Ant was interesting that uh it's like when they put that dude from the Quiet Place in Ant-Man 3 and it's like who cares about why'd you do this he's good oh um not a quiet place the good place good place sorry yeah I agree yeah Bill Murray that's what I'm talking about you are talking about Bill Murray yeah William Jackson Harper that's right yeah his name was Quas and people like ooh is he Quasart no he's just some guy in the quantum realm. No, you're absolutely right. But I think Aldon Ehrenreich is going to get more screen time
Starting point is 00:20:49 at the very least. I hope so. Another thing I like is that we're going to see what happens when somebody goes flying around in an iron suit in a city blowing stuff up and they're not rich. Yeah. I think that'll get in trouble. I think we're getting we seem to be getting that like she seems to be being pursued by the authorities. Yeah, I think that's just an interesting idea. When you know, you don't have Tony Stark money You can't just go to Gullnir or whatever and start killing people. Yeah and go. Yeah, I'm actually in this war now I did it. I've decided I did it. It's war. Yeah, well Superman's facing a similar situation. That's true Oh the Dean from yeah, it is in this place somebody else in the MCU? Ah, he might have yeah. Yeah, hang on. He's he's does he appear does he introduce Tony Stark in
Starting point is 00:21:33 Oh, yeah, because there is it is something like because he's doing something is the head of MIT Yeah, something like that. Let me check MIT liaison. Yeah I you know what I like the fact that the suit is like, like I said, the suit is assembles like you see it in the same extremist style. And it's in Civil War. Yeah. Yeah. And I enjoy the fact I enjoy the fact that she is like the suit has sort of been extended. So it's sort of like, you know, yeah, it looks way bigger. I think that's, I think it just, I think it just works. I'm excited for this. I don't care that you're not excited for this. It's not very excited. I'll down vote Dan over there. I hope it's I didn't down but I don't download anything
Starting point is 00:22:07 I do not engage. Do you not vote anything? Nah, then you're part of the problem. Good. I want to be good I don't want to be fixing or solving or helping anybody good First three episodes of this will air on June 24th And then who knows what happens after that that being said there are only six so I don't know don't know that doesn't I feel like if they're putting three at once, maybe they're trying to dump this. Okay, yeah, my initially, I don't know. I mean, here's the thing as well. Maybe they're not dumping because it's bad. Yeah, because I would say this is a good dump. This is an excellent dump. It's I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:41 maybe they're not dumping it because it's bad. It's just they've got other stuff to put out like I mean We're gonna be talking about and or and I'll be the first thing I was gonna say is I think The three episodes a week thing is maybe the worst delivery system That there is possible to do and it's because they have to they're working around something else. I'm else is coming out Yeah, or something. I think it should have been one episode a week I think this is a yeah I think three at a time is terrible like a terrible idea because it felt like a
Starting point is 00:23:07 Three-hour movie every week. Yeah, it was good. I liked it. But also now I'm really sad that it's finished Well, there you go. I could have been not that you could have been not sad for like nine more weeks. Yeah Well now you have to be sad for nine weeks. No, well, I was gonna be sad for nine weeks anyway So anyway that mentioned comes out June 24th. Spider-Man Noir got a very short teaser trailer. That's true. It looks like Sin City. It does look a little bit like Sin City.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Nicolas Cage is a 65 year old Spider-Man running around. That's true. Yeah. This is a TV series, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. This comes out in 2026. I mean, it looks how you expect it to look.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah. I'm assuming it's the same one from the Spider-Verse movie? Yeah. Well, maybe not because animated and live action stuff. Because we did see some live action people in the Spider-Verse movie. So maybe each one, maybe the live action and the animated versions are different. Who's to say? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:03 It looks interesting. It is, to me, the most interesting thing will be it's a Spider-Man property with a Spider-Man character in it. So not a Kraven the Hunter, not a Venom, not a whatever. Will the fact that it's a Spider-Man property counteract the fact that it's a weird old-timey thing that nobody likes? You know what I mean? Like it's a sky captain.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You know what I mean? Who's saying that? And they said noir. Tomorrowland, you know? I mean? Like, it's a sky, like sky captain. Yeah. You know what I mean? Who's saying that? And they said noir. Tomorrowland. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Noir? Yuck. They should have called it Spider-Man, but cool. Yeah. Right? And he has guns sometimes. He has guns sometimes. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:39 There you go. Again, no date, just 2026. Great. Which is okay with me. It's okay with me. The big trailer for The Weekmason is of course a new trailer for Superman. Superman. Superman movie is okay with me. It's okay with me. The big trailer for The Week Mason is of course a new trailer for Superman. Superman. Superman movie is simply called Superman.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Correct. Which I think is the right name to call him. I agree. The character. We've got a bunch more information. There has been some- Do you think people enjoy our incredible insights like that? I think they do.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah, I think so too. Do you think everybody just stopped listening just then though? I think so, yeah. Because they've got to call their friends. And be like, hey- What am I doing? And they're friends and be like hey what am I doing and they're just trying they're calling their friends and they're just like frantic they're like how do I how do I suddenly put in a conversation that I think that Superman is the right title for the Superman movie yeah and like play it off like it's
Starting point is 00:25:17 their own idea. What have you been up to? What have you been up to? Oh you've ah looking at TikTok. You know what they put on TikTok sometimes. Trailers. Superman trailer. Superman. That's the perfect name for the Superman movie, I think. Good screw with the people who take credit for our hard work.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I don't think that they should. No. I think they should be honest. Call your friends back. All right. Tell them you're a thief. So there are some leaks on this about certain villains and who's who and whatever, none of which I have explored.
Starting point is 00:25:51 There's more story beat kind of information going on here. It starts with Lois Lane interviewing Clark Kent as Superman about his actions. And he kind of thinks it's going to be a softball interview. I thought that was fun. But she's hitting him hard. Yeah. She's like, stop doing war crimes, question mark. Yeah. I'm not doing war crimes, question mark. I mean, exclamation mark. Yeah. I mean, people notice as well, like there is that shift between him, like from Clark to Superman and kind of back and forth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when he's losing his cool. But I like, I mean, I think
Starting point is 00:26:21 it's a very, it looks to be a very similar scene to what Iron Man did in the first Iron Man movie. Like him flying into a war-torn nation and intervening and people like, you shouldn't do that. He's like, well, it was bad. And I don't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know. I like seeing him like that animated as well about something. Something interesting. We see that a moment from the previous teaser where somebody throws
Starting point is 00:26:47 a rock at him on the street, they took the blink out. Why do you think that is? Complaining? Probably complaining, but I mean maybe that's a good idea. Yeah, also I don't really hate it either way. It flinched because he grew up human and he still feels. Sure. Like it's, you know, and he still. That might be it. Or not deep enough.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah, you're right. You might have to go deeper. Yeah. They say there's no safe way to put that Q-tip in your ear. I disagree. I do it the correct way. Me too. Why are they selling them?
Starting point is 00:27:15 That's right. What are they for then? Exactly. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. They say there's no safe way to put that q-tip in your eye disagree why they I do it the correct way They do why they selling them What are they for then? No, I don't do that to be clear. I don't put anything my ears never never what do you do if you want to clean them? High pressure water jet. Okay, although it goes all the way in all the way out. Yeah, I do use them But I'm very careful interest and I shouldn't do it. I know yeah Yeah, I don't know. I I have no problem with that either way, but you know, they put it back. There's a moment in here where Lois Lane during the interview,
Starting point is 00:27:51 she mentions the Secretary of Defense and we see a picture, we see a clip of Rick Flagg Sr. Apparently he's not the Secretary of Defense though. James Gunn clarified that. He's just a guy then. He's the head of Argus or whatever that that team is. Smuggas. Smuggus, that's right. Because Argus got disbanded because of all the Suicide Squad evil stuff. So they built Smuggus and people like good we're happy now. Result. People power.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Great. Democracy. Yeah. The power of your vote. That is. There's also a lot of him getting beaten up. There is. And like his suit kind of.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And I love that. I love the fact that this is a universe where he's not necessarily, he's very powerful, but he's not the most powerful being in the universe and the world has adapted to that and various organizations and Schmarges and Lex Luthor whatever have the technology to counter him. Let's do some, should we do some rampant speculation? We do see... Oh, I just want to say I quickly like the bit where I like the bit where he's like battered into the ground and that like a normal guy like I love that too yeah I like stuff like that because people like him he's nice and the fact that here's the thing like if you fell over you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:28:55 need somebody to help you up but it's just nice that a guy would yeah that's right yeah so yeah yeah and Superman's not gonna be like go away This is nice, so that was good um so speaking of like beings of equal power Yeah, we see a guy in a battle suit that is the hammer of Baravia Yeah, who I think maybe is invented for this. I'm not sure maybe he's had one or two Appearances, let's have a look okay, but I guess he is like a big juggernaut fellow Yeah, so he is the he's the defender of The nation of Baravia, which I which I guess is that is that the nation he goes into I think it might be yeah No, the DC Universe wiki says he's a mechanized terrorist. I don't know about that. Although I suppose he's in metropolis blowing things up
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yeah, now some people have speculated. I thought I read that James Gunn said that Superman is looking after crypto for Supergirl. So crypto isn't his dog. He's looking out for a Supergirl. But some people have speculated because this suit is so big, and it's like shooting out heat vision, then maybe Supergirl's in the suit. Oh, okay. Mind controlled or whatever. But I kind of feel like in the Flash, we did a Supergirl that was, you know... Yeah. So I don't think that's true. I think they've just been like, let's give this guy hate vision because Superman hates
Starting point is 00:30:10 hate vision. Why not? Yeah. He keeps getting knocked around by a couple of Lex Luthor's goons. We see the first look at the engineer who's got nanotech powers, who's got those buzzsaw hands. Cutting up all those Superman robots. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And I think can maybe turn into like a nanotech puddle. Cool. See like Alex Mack. Remember Alex Mack. Of course I remember Alex Mack. And I also remember Beans Baxter. Do you remember Beans Baxter? You don't need to remember that. I remember my secret identity with Jerry O'Connell. That's relevant to this. That is relevant I think. Yeah. Beans Baxter wasn't relevant. That was a trick. Yeah. Cool. Was that your holy trinity of 90s TV shows yeah I think so yeah cool and we see the other guy who spoilers for when the the toy announcements are leaked and they always put the name of the character yeah oh it's a he is listed as Ultraman okay so what the deal is with him yeah
Starting point is 00:31:02 don't know okay Ultraman for people who don't haven't read any of the comic Books like me casual He's a parallel universe version of Superman From usually from Earth 3 and the crime syndicate of America This could also be a clone or a it wouldn't surprise me if this guy gets like not Yeah, he gets knocked out of the picture third act like so that punches him in a space or through the earth or whatever Yeah, and then at the end of the movie he takes the mask off and it's bizarre a David Currant sweat Whoa, you know yeah, that'd be cool. That'd be cool. Oh, but but again. We just did
Starting point is 00:31:31 Bizarro it's a man. I mean. I don't think they care no and also I think I think a lot of the CW arrow verse and associated stuff is a test bed Yeah, also, they did literally everything they did literally everything so you know you can't really We do see part and mark Kent in this trailer so my can is still alive. Yeah, which is nice. That is good They've mentioned how cuz he has a smaller home like if they don't have he doesn't have this big kind of farm Mansion kind of you know I mean like it's a smaller farm. He's not you know he's not rich. He's not from money It's just like a show. I mean he was never rich was he no I know but you know you see him He's normally got a big ass barn and whatever he does have a big ass, but the the universal
Starting point is 00:32:11 This the universal symbol of being rich a big ass barn. I got to I know you do yeah, yeah You got gold and white gold It's very ostentatious a greated. There's more dog stuff obviously. For a second I thought you were going to say Krypto was in that suit. I thought that's what you were going to say. Oh I see what you're saying there. I read a comic recently where, what the hell was it? I can't remember, I was reading with my son where Lex Luthor was using Superman as a battery
Starting point is 00:32:37 and put him inside a mech suit which he was then using to destroy. Kick around stuff. I can't remember what it was. So you're right It could be Supergirl. Yeah, but the Ultraman clearly is he's he's strong enough to smash Superman's face into the earth He's also got a you on his chest doesn't he for Ultraman? So it's probably Ultraman is what I'm saying Yeah, but I'm saying I reckon they're probably combined a couple of yeah, okay Yeah, I think it's probably too early to be like oh, yeah, by the way, I borrowed. Yeah
Starting point is 00:33:02 The universe asked for a reason. Yeah exactly Yeah, yeah, like that's not it's not an accident. It's not an accident. Yeah, what else we get another look at metamorphose Yeah, I think it's something kryptonite can but well, I mean comic book metamorphose couldn't do that Why not? No kryptonite in his body. There's no kryptonite in human body. So you can't make kryptonite. Yeah, sorry Well, then maybe he's not sorry. What if you can like do kryptonite. Sorry. Well then maybe he's not. Sorry. What if you can like do something with Superman's DNA or whatever. Unless they change it to the comic book. You can just change stuff. That's the thing, mate.
Starting point is 00:33:30 You can change anything and say anything and be anyone you want to be. What else is good in this? Oh we see some more of the Justice Gang. We see Green Lantern doing some Green Lantern stuff. Oh he does. We get a Green Lantern fist. Yeah. What's that T with the T squares? Mr. Terrific whatever his name is.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Mr. Terrific yeah. He's doing some technology stuff. He's doing some technology stuff. It's so true. I love all of that Mason. Me too. Yeah god I hope this is good. I hope it's good too, it looks pretty good. How do you feel about, because you see more of David Correnswent's performance in this. Yeah. How do you feel about that? I enjoyed it. I loved that he was like hey buddy up here. Yeah. I thought it was good. I think Superman works very well as a hey buddy guy. Yeah. Well, there's he's a buddy I know he's a straightforward. Yeah down the line. I don't know again. I keep coming back to this I just like that. He's nice. Yeah, and people like him I know people are yelling him and yelling at him in the trailer or whatever
Starting point is 00:34:19 But like, you know, he goes out of his way he shows up I think that is like and he's not you know, okay I know like people love the Henry Cavill version and and he's not, you know, I know like people love the Henry Cavill version and whatever. I thought it was, you know, it is what it is. But you know, there's that moment where he's like, I don't know, maybe people should die or whatever. And he's just kind of sad and he's pulling that tanker, but he's kind of like having a bad time. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, it sucks. Like I'd imagine being Superman, but the thing about Superman is also he likes helping people
Starting point is 00:34:45 He does it is a burden, but he's like he wants to do it. Yeah, you know for the most part. That's right Maybe it's um what if it's my pleasure to ask your burden What if it's Henry Cavill as Ultraman and they say actually that version was always evil and now he's here That'd be great. I love that and we're gonna we're gonna behead him at the end I would love that just just for Just for a very niche audience of haters. Yeah. Because they seem large, but as a percentage of the global population, just a very small number of people. I have a theory, and I don't know whether this is true.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I don't think women like Henry Cavill. Oh, interesting. I think men are a very particular type of men, like Henry Cavill. Right. Like a lot. But I don't think women right I mean maybe do you think it's because he's a he's a man who likes Warhammer and then he was like and I'll also get huge yeah maybe that's why I
Starting point is 00:35:35 don't think that's what it is I don't know I think there's something like they'll look at like a Jason Momoa and go awesome yeah I don't know this is also this is a generalization obviously it's not possible. Collin's put it cut out this part where he says it's a generalization so it makes it I don't know I mean I just don't think he's a draw for women I don't think you know I might be wrong prove me wrong ladies make him a star will yous make him a bigger star right yeah ah look I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna say it I reckon new Superman's gonna be good because why would it be
Starting point is 00:36:09 bad the last guy I don't know sometimes things are bad happens all the time last three got it the guy I'll go I'll the famous Henry Cavill movie yeah that's true actually yeah you've yeah you put a see you've dream how bad so the seat of doubt cuz like 200 million dollars look like shit was bad It's true. It was bad, but the guardians of the galaxy one through three were all good Yeah, you know this will be at least on par with those I don't know man Also, it's like it's a big swing and yeah, they can go any which way Yeah, I think the worst that I'll probably say about this movie if I had to guess would be what's pretty god to your galaxy
Starting point is 00:36:42 Isn't it? Yeah, you know a bit quippy is what you're saying Necessarily would be, well it's pretty garden to your galaxy isn't it? Yeah. A bit quippy is what you're saying? Mmm, necessarily. God, what if a man was nice? What if a man was nice? That's what the tagline should be. Oh my god. You believe a man can be nice. Nice, yeah. That classic Superman poster. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:37:59 I agree. Yeah. Interesting, isn't it? Just at the moment? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's always interesting. Yeah. It's isn't it? Just at the moment? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's always interesting. It's always something happening.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Okay, sorry. I should clarify. Interesting and stupid. Just life now. Stupid. Mate, it's so stupid. In fact, I might even say that it's stupid more than it is interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Because sometimes I'm like, man, this is stupid and it's the same level of stupid it was yesterday. And it's boring. And boring. exactly. Yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I should walk that back. So anyway, I thought this is an interesting way to start. There's a quote from Tony Gilroy, creator of Andor, season one and season two. It's in regards to Kathleen Kennedy, the head of Lucasfilm.
Starting point is 00:38:41 You were going to call her Kathy Kennedy because you guys are friends. He's calling her Kathy, so I thought I sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah for me. Okay She's protected the show and protected me and wrangled a team together when we started challenging Cathy Cathy just kept saying yes Oh, I'm gonna put the first scene in a brothel. Okay, I'm gonna have to kill two cops. Okay We went we want the production designer from Chernobyl. Okay, good idea. She backed our play and got everything we were doing We like kill those two cops. That's right. We've been through everything, she and I, on this. All the good and all the bad. There's no show without her. For all the shit that she takes online, it's just insane. This show exists because she forced it to happen. What a tough job she has, man. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Also, when they spoke to Lucasfilm about doing a season two, they were like, I don't know, we might have to reduce the budget on this. And he's like, no, we're not going to- Give me more budget. No, we want the same budget as the first season. And they were like, I don't know, we might have to reduce the budget on this. And he's like, no, we'll give me more budget. I want the same budget as the first season. And they were like, otherwise we're just not going to do it. And he didn't mean it wasn't a threat. He's just like, I can't really do this without like a proper budget. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I'm going to need white rooms and also dirty room. I'm going to need normals and the British and muppets and more British. And that Australian guy. I'm going to need one guy to just have a 1980s Australian accent for the entire thing. And that's not cheap. I don't think he even is Australian. No. We need a coach.
Starting point is 00:39:54 That's right. Are you talking about Ben Mendelsohn? No, the other guy. What guy? The guy he's on the fancy planet. And he's always like, g'day boys. We're having a bloody big old formal dinner, aren't we boys? Who? The guy. He's Australian the fancy planet. And he's always like, g'day boys. We're having a bloody big old formal dinner aren't we boys? Who?
Starting point is 00:40:07 The guy! What guy? What? Just what does he look like? He looks Australian. Is he redhead? Maybe. Is he the one they do the dealings with?
Starting point is 00:40:17 The greyhead guy? No, the criminal boss. The one who Mon Mothma's daughter's marrying. Yes! He's Australian. Is he Aussie? How could you? He's clearly Australian.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Dunno man. I thought you were talking about Ben Mendo who is clearly Australian. No! Something happening in my brain? That guy is like, g'day everybody. G'day, we're at this nice formal dinner. G'day. G'day everybody.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Oh, Richard Delaine? Maybe. Is it this guy? Yes. Yes. He's English. Well, he's doing an Australian accent. He's not! He is! He's absolutely not. Maybe I'm not this guy? Yes. Yes. He's English. Well he's doing an Australian accent. He's not!
Starting point is 00:40:45 He is! He's absolutely not. Maybe I'm not thinking of that guy. Yeah maybe, I don't know. Anyway, we don't have time for this. Okay. For this man who's also starting Young Wallander. I don't know if he is Australian.
Starting point is 00:40:55 He's not, he's British! But he sounds Australian. You ready for this? I'm ready. Here we go. Get away! Get away! No chatting, Luther!
Starting point is 00:41:03 No spoiling! Get away with it! What's chatting, Luther! No spoiling! Get away with you! What's going on here? You'll ruin my surprise. He's British! Nah, he's Australian like that. That's not Australian at all!
Starting point is 00:41:12 Alright, alright. A greater disagreement. What a waste of everyone's time. Are we living on that in, are we? All the dead air, all of it. Wow, okay. Alright, well I refuse. Okay, no problem. I simply refuse. So do you know how this was initially going to start?
Starting point is 00:41:28 This is without Tony Gilroy. Tell me. They were going to do a Cassian Andor and K2SO series. Okay. And it was going to be kind of weekly adventures and- Mandalorian. Mandalorian. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:38 But Tony Gilroy looking at that was like, this is limiting. You can only do so much with this robot. Anybody doing a series like that would eventually make a bad series I would run out of interesting week to week stories Yeah, or at least they would feel they would and then they would go let's just add law and let's just add Darksabers and Luke Skywalker. Yeah, you know more flips more deep fakes. That's right Yeah, yeah You might be right and he said the problem with K2SO and they pushed him back as far as they could for this series, is whenever you take him anywhere, he just has to stay on the ship.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Because you can't walk around with him because you're not Imperial, and he clearly is. Yeah. And you just you can't. What do you do with that? It'd just be you land on a plant and he goes wait here. Plus he's a murderbot. He's a murder robot. And he's barely controllable.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah. He's a mad robot. And he's barely controllable. Yeah. It's also one of the big reasons why this happens and the way that it has is because as a hobby, as an interest, Tony Gilroy, like all men, past a certain age, has a real interest in revolution throughout history. Sure, okay. And Roman Empire.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Roman Empire, et cetera. But like just, and different, like, you know, particular like the last hundred or so years, you know, from what we've seen. And you see that in the story and how a revolution begins, like what challenges are facing, you know, I mean, like factions in fighting, tipping points, things like that. It's just, it's incredible. So like, even though a lot of these episodes, they feel very topical to things that are happening right now. Stupid. Stupid things that are happening right now. Stupid. Stupid things that are happening, but also literal genocides that yeah, these draw on not one particular event, but just like the patterns in history, which keep repeating,
Starting point is 00:43:16 which I think is really interesting. It was also, and you know this, it was going to be five seasons. That's true. 12 episodes at a time. But he was like, that's even Diego Luna. Like, it's impossible. Like, Diego Luna would have aged out of the role. He won't be a teenager anymore. He won't be a teenager anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Oh, look at me. I'm Cassian Andor. I'm still in high school. Embarrassing. Can't do it. Put down the hover skateboard or whatever. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I just think, yeah, I mean, look, I would have loved to have seen more of this, but he's also like in his early 60s, this would have gone on for like a decade. Yeah. So the idea was they came to a solution being that you can press all of that into one season and you do it each, every three episodes jumps forward a
Starting point is 00:44:00 year leading up to the Battle of Yavin. Yeah, right. And I think that's a pretty elegant solution, I guess. And on top of that, I like the idea that you can skip over certain things. You don't need to explain literally everything. You jump in a year later and you're like, OK, this is, keep up. This is. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:44:17 This happens. You know, this has happened. But you were saying you didn't like the way it was released. You don't like the three. I don't know if I do. I think people would be talking about it more. I mean people are certainly talking about it it's all I think I think this is Still pretty close to the dump all the it's this is as close
Starting point is 00:44:34 I think as they could get to dumping every episode at the same time Yeah, and instead of it being over 12 weeks, it's over four. And I think people are going to move on. Yeah. Do you think that because it is such a slow burn. And normally, but not always, it seemed to be like the first episode of each arc was almost like a reintroduction and set up. And then it kind of kicks off more.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Reestablish the new status quo and the new planet, et cetera. The new wedding, et cetera. know, the new wedding, etc. Exactly. Yeah. And going from there. So a quick note also folks in Australia, Gorman is like a cult women's clothing brand. So when they're talking about the fabric of Gorman, you've got to know that a lot of Australians like, I didn't know that at all. That's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I don't know. But I don't know a lot of things. Apparently I can't recognize an Australian accent either. I can't. You can't know, but I don't know a lot of things. Apparently I can't recognize an Australian accent either. You can't do it. I've been speaking one the whole time. What? So I think the way we should do this, and feel free to disagree, is we break it up into the four arcs.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I disagree, but we'll do it anyway. And there will be just full spoilers. Oh yeah, absolutely. Because there's no real other way to talk about this. So it opens with five years before Battle of Yavin or whatever it is. 455. Not quite the golden era, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:48 No, it's fine. Yeah, it's normally five years after, isn't it? It's the turn of the Jedi. And it's Cassian Andor stealing a prototype TIE fighter, which is a Legends TIE fighter. So that's been seen in other media. Yeah, I mean, it's a different design and whatever, but it's that particular type, it's been around.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Okay, right. And you made a really interesting point that I didn't pick up on because he's using somebody on the inside and Imperial to Work his way in there. Yeah, she she is I don't know. She's some sort of admin She's some sort of administrator on this base and she is going to die Like even if even if I thought she was going with him Yeah, he's clearly charmed his way in with her. And even if this went all to plan, which it obviously didn't, even if he got away Scott free, they're gonna find her and kill her.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And he's like, that's fine with me. Yeah, absolutely. There's so many parallels between him and like, Luthen. But just willing to kill people just because for the... I mean, he's less of a psychopath than Lutheran is. I think because also he's more hands-on. Like he's literally... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 You know, he's literally has to do the running about. And I think Lutheran's constant adding and removing of his wig has like rattles his brain around. Yeah, I really enjoy the way he... Same with Saw Gerrera. Oh yeah. He wears a wig. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I think you're right Mason. God, there's a lot of blokes being rattled in this. Yeah. Yeah. People killing themselves as well. A lot of that. Not a lot. You know, a lot. Not a lot for a lot of TV shows. More than you'd think for Star Wars. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah. So I mean, I just think it's a really interesting jumping off point because it's not a big epic kind of mission. It's not tied really to anything else. Tied fighter. Thank you. You don't even really know why he's doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Like they don't, the sort of ship that shows up later, was it the first one and if they destroy the prototype, they can't make these? Yeah. Are they gonna use the technology in their own fighters? Yeah. Cause they buy X fighters off the shelf. It seems that way, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I just thought that was all very interesting. X-Wings, sorry, not X fighters. That's fine. People know and people know and think that's good. And they forgive. And they forgive. That's right. Yeah, I think and you know, and then there's obviously what I think is great as well when he crash lands on a planet, which surprise, surprise turns out to be Yavin. I love that reveal, by the way. I think that's like the right kind of fan service.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Right. I just, I thought that was terrific. And there was a moment for me where I remember watching it and I was like, oh, I think it was that lad. I'm like, that's very good. That's very good. That's very good, Andor. But seeing the two factions of rebels, well they're not. They're one faction becoming two just squabbling over. Yeah, I like that. I think I mentioned that when we talked about it a few weeks ago, the
Starting point is 00:48:30 idea that, I like the constant cutting between the rebels squabbling and shooting at each other or whatever, and the big luxurious briefing room of the Empire just going like, who wants to do some evil? Let's all do it together. Absolutely, yeah. Having a great time doing evil, thank you. Yeah, exactly. So I think also, I just find him really compelling in terms of like, he is like an everyman and he's very persuasive. Like he's very lucky and he's skilled, but he's not invincible. Well, we know that because he gets shot by a big laser.
Starting point is 00:49:04 And he went to prison for a long time. He went to prison for a long time. Yeah, there is this moment, I guess we'll talk about it a bit later, where Luthen is like, what are you? What is this? It's always you. You're always around. Even he recognizes that you shouldn't be capable of any of this. Why do you keep showing up in this universe and have this incredible life? And some people just are lucky.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I think, I mean, he even says that I'm just lucky and he is. Mm. He's got some of that Han Solo like. Yeah, but he's got some of it. Yeah. But then it also like, it does also feel like he knows he's going to die. Yeah. Like, and he's just on this, but he just keeps barreling forward.
Starting point is 00:49:46 He's, you know, he's the best one. Yeah. And he's just kind of like, I have to do this. Would you say he's your hero? Yeah, he's probably my hero. More than your dad? Yeah, probably. Well, alright.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Would you say he's your hero more than my dad too? I would say that, yeah. Easily, actually. Yeah. Wouldn't even have to think about it. This also had, this first arc had a very controversial moment Which is introducing sexual assault into the Star Wars universe. It's true So this is something you want to skip absolutely fair enough Collings will put time codes below
Starting point is 00:50:15 And I know there was a bit of an uproar in terms of like this is not something I want to see in a Star Wars Show which also like I can't I can understand but also a lot of people like this so many things that I don't want to see in a Star Wars show, which also like I can understand. But also a lot of people like, there's so many things that I don't want to see in a Star Wars show, including bricks and fasteners and the wrong colored lightsaber and... Like a long conversation. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Et cetera, yeah. But I thought, and look, I haven't experienced anything like this, but it did feel very
Starting point is 00:50:42 realistic and very well done. And I thought it was... I don't know, I think it didn't feel like... It was awful to watch, but it didn't feel like... I don't know, like grimy and like heavy-handed. Do you know what I mean? I didn't make light of it. I thought it was well-handled. I thought it was like the acting was incredible. And it also is something that realistically happens in situations like this. People with like you know get like a sliver of power. Yeah. And they they use that to be the worst version. I mean that's an ongoing thing. Yes. It's just it's just a lot of people with the tiniest sliver of power and you know on the
Starting point is 00:51:20 imperial side just being the worst people they can be. Yeah. You know, and everybody's what I liked about what I like about and or generally is you get to see on kind of a micro level how scary a lot of this stuff is like we're talking about, you know, in the previous season, you know, there was there was a bunch of stuff with the good guys versus one tie fighter and you see how. And again, this season sort of turns that on its head where Cassian, you know, finally takes off the, you know he gets the TIE fighter going he shows back up yeah on the on the farm planet and he's like I'm gonna kill everybody that's an
Starting point is 00:51:52 incredible moment but yeah how terrifying yeah obviously you know everybody below Deirdre is afraid of her yeah and she's afraid of Krennic yeah and Krennic's afraid of Tarkin yeah and whatever yeah whatever. Yeah. And Tarkin's killed by Darth Vader. Yeah, yeah. He's not afraid of Darth Vader. No, Tarkin's killed by the Death Star Explodes. The Death Star exploding. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Yeah, that's probably true. That's probably what got him in the end. Yeah. Tarkin should have been afraid of Proton torpedoes. Yeah. Or vents. Yeah. I'm really glad Tarkin wasn't in this.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Because I just started re-watching Rogue One. I'm like 10 minutes in, and he shows up. And I'm like, I fucking hate this. It's like I didn't- Were you going to love that post credits. Maybe I didn't like it at the time and I like it even less now. I also liked ultimately and this is breaking your arc format here, but I just liked that a lot of the bad guys were just undone by the system that's what you know hates them
Starting point is 00:52:45 That's and it's just using them like, you know, yes did everything right? Yep in her opinion I'm with Cyril. Yeah, and they just they just as soon as they weren't useful to the top brass They just they're done. That's the thing I think a lot of this and you see it in particularly in Cyril and yeah We're jumping around a bit and you see it online. James new format jumping around a bit. Jumping around a bit. And you see it a lot online and you see it, you know, certain influences and they'll get my go down this rabbit hole. It ultimately like the people that you are protecting or serving or sucking up to they don't care about you. You're a ghoul and there
Starting point is 00:53:21 are worse ghouls than you. Do you remember that guy in the previous Trump administration and he was like a big businessman and he gave up all his businesses or whatever He went to work for trial and he got fired after like two weeks Remember that guy which was an Anthony Scaramucci. Yes that guy but also like the my pillow guy Yeah, yeah, like through ways entire business Like you see that happening and it's not exclusive to Trump, but you see that happening again and again like yeah, we're just burning exclusive to Trump, but you see that happening again and again, like people just burning everything. I mean, you look at like the dude from the it crowd who went down the anti trans rabbit hole, which is a bit different than this, but it's still like he lost his entire
Starting point is 00:53:53 family. Yeah. For what? What are you doing? Like I don't, I don't get it. I don't understand. But like the thing is you're useful until you're not. Yeah. If you lose a platform, you're gone. Like it doesn't, you don't, you're not. If you lose a platform, you're gone. Like, you don't exist anymore. Nobody cares about you. Are we back to talking about Andor? Yeah. No, this is all the same. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:54:12 But yeah, no, just like, who's the guy above? Who's the guy, he's sort of on par with Krennic. Oh, the dude in the ISB or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's great. Again, we're cutting right to the end of this. That's okay. But as soon as he discovers that he is inadvertently...
Starting point is 00:54:29 You know, he and his team have sort of inadvertently let the Death Star plans to the rebels. He's just like, well, I'm gonna be killed in one of various ways. I better take the initiative here. There's also a really interesting moment where him and Krennic are talking. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And Krennic calls him by his first name, which I think is Leo. And that's such an interesting moment because it implies that, oh, these guys know each other, or maybe they came up together, maybe Krennic because he's a bit older, maybe Krennic worked for this guy. And it's a moment of like, oh, Krennic likes this guy or at the very least respects him enough. Yeah, right, right, right. Major part of Gazz, Anton Lesser. Great performance from that guy. Incredible. What a room too.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Look, I mean another way we could format this review is to just name all the actors and go, well done, this was really good. In fact, if I may do that, Elizabeth Doulal as Claire, who's Luthen's assistant, this is apparently her first job. Yeah. Like her first acting job. This is apparently her first job. Yeah, first acting job because she's done theater Yeah, she doesn't even have a blue
Starting point is 00:55:29 Link in Wikipedia or a blue check mark on Twitter. So true But she's Lutheran's assistant and of course is is you know part of the rebel communications. Yeah Apparatus, but she's great in this so good good. And apparently, because in the final arc, there is an episode where we see Luthen and Claire's relationship, like how it started. And apparently Tony Gilroy did that, I read this in an interview, because he thought people are going to look at these two
Starting point is 00:55:59 and wonder about the relationship and speculate on it. So he was like, you know, he doesn't want people to think that they had some sort of inappropriate romantic relationship or like he forced her to be part of this. So he just made this episode and it's an incredible episode. And what's interesting about that is because he's, it seems like he's some kind of maybe imperial or he worked or we don't really know. It seems that maybe he was a planetary kind of, you know, operation that was working at the behest of the Empire. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:24 But it seems as if they were, he was taking part the behest of the Empire. We don't know. But it seems as if he was taking part in a massacre of her people and takes her on board. And she, and I was watching some behind the scenes stuff and reading about it, where she hates him for that reason. But also he's this father figure. So it's this complicated relationship. And that duality and what she feels for him, that doesn't change over the years. And she, in hindsight, she's driving him.
Starting point is 00:56:48 She's really running a lot of this. And he's using his resources. Like he's doing things that, like, it was almost to make up for her and the things that he's done. Like that's why he's doing it. It's just like pure guilt. Also, like a lot of people in the show and like the more fringe rebels, he's completely insane. And he's just willing to just, as he says in the first season, like just burn his entire life and reputation for something that's, you know, he won't see any of the benefits. Genevieve O'Reilly is amazing as Mon Mothma. The wedding arc is great. I
Starting point is 00:57:23 mean, she has that great dance moment, obviously but you know, there's that one shot where she's walking around through the the home and like meeting people and introducing like that Like Australian guy who who you like all of that's incredible Um, and there's the moment where because you know, she makes the deal with the the guy in the first season the old friend of hers Who's a very convenient ally for like the Rebel Alliance until it isn't anymore like I can't have the money I don't have anything sorry again, which is like that's not uncommon You know it's it's all well and good to be like no This is something I believe and I'll stand up for it until like no this is gonna actually cost you something personally
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah, then that changes. Yeah. Anyway shoots everyone in the typhoid. That's great. That's great stuff No stuff. I'm gonna use up lose Brasso in that first episode as well. First arc as well. He dies at the end. You get the one stormtrooper who can shoot. Yeah, that's right. Also, you don't even see that. You see a stormtrooper take the shot. But you don't realize what's happened.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Until afterwards. Because you're casting and you're having too much fun on that in that tie fight. Like, I'll check on that guy on the bike later. Yeah. Yeah. That looked like a fun thing to do. Kill all those storm troopers in the tie fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Yeah. So I guess getting into arc two, that's where we see fancy Cassie and Andor with his fancy outfit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you would love the outfits. The outfits are so good. Yeah. I mean, again, like same with the last season, just, just they've built like an entire fashion world and all the colors are great and kind of, you know, it isn't just Jedi robes and
Starting point is 00:58:53 etc. Sand planets. Sand planets. Didn't even see a sand planet really. It's true. God, how did they not put Tatooine in this? How did they manage to do that? They restrained themselves.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah. I guess I make, cause also it's like Tatooine's a nothing world and you don't need to see. Tony Gilroy probably took the CD-ROM out of the volume So they couldn't use all the Tatooine backgrounds anymore. He snapped it. Good. I'm glad that I'm hoping he did do that He hit it. Speaking of like world-building they built an entire fake French language in this. Yeah right. When I was like I don't speak French Obviously, but when they're talking, I'm like, I don't is this fucking, I think it's, or is it like, is it some regional dialect? But I don't know. And no, they created this word by word. And it's got like, you know, the flow of French.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Apparently it's similar to Esperanto, like the French version of that. The fake language that they speak in Red Wolf. They do, they speak Esperanto. Amazing. So yeah, loved all of that. This is also where the Gorman art kicks off. So you might be... Speaking of fashion. Yeah, familiar with this. There was already a Gorman massacre in Legends and in Canon. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:00:03 And they managed to integrate that into this by saying it's something that in Canon. Oh, I see. And they managed to integrate that into this by saying it's something that Tarkin did. I see. I also, I like the presence of Tarkin in this where like he's spoken about and everybody universally agrees that he's terrible, but you don't need to see him. That's great because the motion capture would be bad. That's right. Yeah. I mean, I think again, you could recast him. That's totally okay. I'll talk about a recast, but I know, and there was that, there's that moment, you know, where the Imperials are sitting down and it's similar to the way they- There's a lot of moments where the Imperials are sitting down. What's the one with Ben Mendo? Yeah. And they're talking about basically doing-
Starting point is 01:00:35 He's a real diva in this. He really is. He's more of a diva than he was in the movie. I like that for him though. I like his little cape and his swooshing about. Absolutely. So- His formal cape? Are you kidding me? My God. There's a movie, and this is based on a real event called Conspiracy from 2001, where it's basically the Nazis sit down and go, how are we going to do extermination? And that's what this is. And I think that's...
Starting point is 01:00:55 I could have watched that movie as well. But I think the idea they're going through, well, you know, we use the media, we'll weaponize the media to sway opinion. That's right. We'll put hints here and there about what's going on and all of that. And then, you know, by the time, you know, things escalate, everybody will be on board. All the fancy people on the fancy planets will be on board with it.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And you see that all the time and you're seeing it in Gaza. Sorry to get political. Where like the justification for this often is like, well, these aren't good people. These are subhuman. And the children are only going to grow up to be terrorists or whatever. So, and they're justifying their actions. And it's, you know, again, this isn't based specifically on that, but you know,
Starting point is 01:01:33 it's happened a bunch of times throughout history. Yeah. So bad stuff, but just an infiltrating and like using serial to infiltrate the resistance and all, I mean, what a, he's incredible. What a performance. What a like a- Him and Denise Gao, is Dejra, just doing a great job
Starting point is 01:01:51 because they seem super nice in real life. Yeah, they do, don't they? Yeah. I think the way, again, like using him to do this, and he's so keen to help, and I think we were talking about this, he's the kind of guy, the kind of character. Tony Gilmore also said that's a character that works in any universe. Like
Starting point is 01:02:09 you could put him in the office. Yeah, absolutely. And he would work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just overly kind of... Like a rule follower wants to do what's right. Kind of a snitch also. Kind of a snitch, yeah. And in a just universe, he would be a good guy. Yeah, right. Uh-huh. But of course, this is not a just universe or this particular point in time, and I think that's so interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah, also Overbearing Mother-in-law. They managed to squeeze in the Overbearing Mother-in-law subplot into this. How did they do that? And we haven't even talked about it that much yet. Oh, we did a little bit, but Bix, she's having those recurring nightmares about the torture. What a satisfying moment where there's no buildup to it, like her hunting this guy down. They don't plan it out. He just goes to his office and she's just there. And she's like, would you like some torture? I love all of that. I thought that was such a satisfying moment in this series. There's a bunch of moments like that. Which I think is terrific. Anyway, arc three, I guess, we'll move on to that, which is where we get the actual
Starting point is 01:03:13 Gorman massacre. Again, it's like burning a nation to the ground for natural resources. Again, we've seen it time and time again. Blah, blah, blah, etc. Blah, to be bloobity, blah, butty. But there's also the introduction, I think, for the first time in this series of like a mystical force person. Yes, the only one.
Starting point is 01:03:31 And it's not a Jedi. No. Yeah. It's a woo woo woman. Yeah. It's a woo woo Healy woman. Yeah. I think that's great because she obviously senses him and she knows, but she's not attuned
Starting point is 01:03:43 enough in the force to kind of know, like she is important, but doesn't know yeah, why yeah? He also gets that sense of that and it kind of freaks him out. Yes. Well. Yeah, it's probably all his luck Yeah, it's all his luck like she knows that he's gonna die when a big laser hits him Yeah, I'm seeing the biggest lies you've ever thought of. Bigger than that. Nah, bigger than that actually. Yeah. Think of it even bigger. Think of the biggest lazy you've ever seen. Way bigger.
Starting point is 01:04:10 That's right, yeah. And the buildup of that massacre. And you compare that to like, there's the revolution in the first series that happens on, uh, Ferrex. Ferrex, is it? Ferrex, Bueller's Day Off. Ferrex Bueller's Day Off. And that's kind of a more-
Starting point is 01:04:23 It happens on Ferrex Bueller's Day Off. And that's kind of a more... It happens on Ferris Bueller's Day Off. That's more of a spontaneous, unexpected event. And it's clearly got to the point where the Empire is good at manufacturing this. And you see it putting up the barriers and that slow build and drawing people in and closing off the circle and all of that. It's so harrowing and you know what's gonna happen. And they're just, but also like, they have to be there. They have to do it.
Starting point is 01:04:49 You know, like they, a lot of them kind of know it's a trap, but it's like, well, this is like, this is our whole, this is our whole planet. You know, we gotta, we gotta, you know, we need to do this. And Cyril realized- We're gonna die regardless, so. Yeah, and Cyril realizing that, you know, the Empire used him this and serial realize I died regardless. So yeah, and so we're realizing that you know
Starting point is 01:05:05 The Empire used him and Deirdre used him specifically and yeah flips out and realize and then great fight with Cassian Yeah, he's like I don't I don't know who you are Which you know, obviously, you know, there's a similar moment played in an endgame, you know where where Thanos says that to Scarlet Witch. But I don't think Tony Gilroy's seen that movie. I think you're right. But I think that's also so...
Starting point is 01:05:31 And I didn't even realise because I'm like, oh, what if Cassian runs into this guy? What's Cassian going to do? And I'm like, oh, he probably wouldn't even recognise him. Like, they very briefly cross paths. He hasn't thought about this guy at all. Like, that moment is so full. He's killed so many people. That's so much. I've left so many people to die. I left What's-her-name and that
Starting point is 01:05:51 TIE fighter hangar. Like he, his whole trajectory is, has been this man and he would have had the image of him just burned into his brain. And he's just like, I don't know what this is. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And he won. Like he won the fight. Yeah. But somebody else got him. I think that's incredible. Yeah. That also this moment, they introduced K to so finally. Now this overwrote a comic which we read for the big sandwich comic book club. Yeah, we read the K to so origin comic. Oh, yeah. Okay, right everybody agrees that Who cares? Yeah I mean that was it's the same with every piece of expanded media that ever existed for Star Wars if the movies of the movie or the Live action live action or the cartoon or whatever overrides the book or the comic book. Yeah, that's the way it is Yeah, it's absolutely fine. And also I think there's
Starting point is 01:06:42 book or the comic book. That's the way it is. Yeah, it's absolutely fine. And also I think there's also Alex, Alex from Star Wars Explained, Alex and Molly, they've got a great channel. They've got lots of videos on this, but like he's a real canon junkie and this kind of stuff does bother him. You know us was a canon junkie? Napoleon Bonaparte. That's true. He loved him. He freaking loved him. But his solution to this was, well, they agree at the end that like, we're going to keep this off the books.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Like the thing that happened, the massacre, this robot. And so maybe that story is the story that they tell everyone. Yeah, okay, sure. Okay, that works. So like, you can look at it that way. But also like, I ultimately don't care. I'm happy to wipe something out for something better, but not in like a, not in a bad way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:23 But did you know that there was initially going to be a whole episode dedicated to K2SO Where a bunch of them are on a ship heading somewhere and there's he's on that. Oh a bunch of K2SO model robots No, but there's just one. So it's like alien. Oh Okay, and that was going to be a whole episode but it didn't work in the budget and timing wise or whatever I would have loved to have seen that because it kind of did feel a bit like, oh, you hit him with the ship. I'm going to take this with me. Like, why? Is this really a thing that you do normally? I don't know. I felt a bit kind of, I don't know. There's a minor thing or whatever. Also, this arc also recast Bail Organa. It does with Benjamin Brant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I thought he was good. I think he was good too, yeah. They mentioned that it was Jimmy Smith's couldn't do it. Scheduling conflict? Scheduling conflict. And I think they might have mentioned Dexter specifically, but a lot of this filmed in like 2022, 2023. I think it might have been like a money thing.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Wow. I don't know. I don't know that for a fact. Yeah, right. What are you just digging into Jimmy Smith's business? Maybe I'll, yeah, I mean, look, I don't know. I don't know that for a fact. Yeah, right. What are you just digging to Jimmy Smith's business? Maybe I'll yeah, I mean look I will do it. I ever see him Yeah, I think it yeah, I guess it is a bit giant because it's literally a different guy But I thought Benjamin Bratt was really good
Starting point is 01:08:35 I thought yeah, he filled that role really well and yeah, they clearly introduced him just briefly at the end of what about Jimmy Smith's motion capture though, you know, I mean that would have been way better use all his at the end of one of that Jimmy Smith's motion capture though get another I mean that would have been way better he use all his motion capture from law and order yeah yeah and the Obi-Wan TV series which is in correct yes yeah because it's not like he's like he comes back for stuff all the time like he was in Rogue One you know he's not against it so I don't know I don't know it's fine again it's it is what it is he needed to be in it so they put him in I don't you simply believe his press release that said scheduling you're right right, I will. It's related to something else. They're also talking about putting
Starting point is 01:09:07 Princess Lara in this at one point and Tony Gilroy was talking about speaking to Kathleen Kennedy and Dave Filoni about that, like how this would look and he was like this is annoying and distracting. I'm just not going to do it. Yeah right. So I think that's totally fine. This is also where they bring in the line of rebellions were built on hope. You know that guy says it. So this came from Tony Gilroy's son. He said, my son is a big Star Wars fan. And he said he saw that movie Rogue One.
Starting point is 01:09:34 He goes, remember that? And he often comes to the house and he busts my balls on the computer about how little I know. One day he's there at the house and he's goofballing on me and he's like, well, who's going to introduce the rebellion to build on hope? And I go, what do you mean? And he goes, well, in Rogue One, Diego says it and Jin repeats it. And I go, well, isn't that from somewhere?
Starting point is 01:09:51 And he goes, no, man, what are you talking about? You better figure that out. Okay. Yeah, it's fine. I think you could also not put that in. But, you know, some lines come from somewhere. That's so true, isn't it? Oh, and also he didn't put in Tarkin or Vader.
Starting point is 01:10:07 This is talk to deadline, because it was like if I needed them, I would have brought them in. There it is. And I think that's also like, if you look at Rogue One as a sequel to this, and it is, he's in that, isn't he? He is, sure is.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Both of those guys are in that. Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, and so forth. That movie, yeah. And I think he also said something along the lines of, you know, Cassian never finds his sister. Yeah, and I think he also said something along the lines of you know Cassie Cassie never finds his sister. Yeah, I like I mean that's so people like is it Claire and he's like not yeah, that's someone else someone else Yeah, because he's you know the idea being that he's doing all the stuff He does because of this yeah thing that he could never solve and kind of if she came back
Starting point is 01:10:43 He'd be like oh, I'm good. Yeah, I'll go back go back to that Miami planet but this time I won't get I won't get arrested I'll make sure that's right I'll never get me this time that's right yeah they're probably gonna they probably get him eventually mm-hmm so arc for yeah we get the death of Lonnie that's true yeah so hard I mean look to be fair did the Empire get him No, I don't think so Just shot him. Yeah, I think that's so I mean he had to yeah, like I when I saw it I'm like that sucks, but also completely justified He would own you you've been
Starting point is 01:11:19 You've been justifying a lot of murder lately James. What's going on? I would never. I would have found a better solution for it, but he's like, he even gives him the hope. He names the planet where he's going to go to with his family and he still just shoots him. And that confrontation with Deidre and Luthen, I thought that was, when she comes in, I was like, oh, is this, is she testing him? Is this like an investigation? Because why would she come on her own? Like she would know he's dangerous and then it's you know Revealed that she knows it's him and yeah, you know, he's walked into a traffic wigs. We all know yeah and
Starting point is 01:11:55 I yeah, and then it was like, oh no, she botched this like she She got you know, she got too confident and like, you know, yeah, she should have called for backup Yeah, and she did, but they were all outside. Yeah, and I mean, he should have had a better way to kill himself. Yeah. To be fair, also, yeah. Not an antique knife of, not a relic.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Yeah, but them talking to each other. Maybe a blaster. Yeah, them talking to each other. Poisoned wig. Poisoned wig. He puts on a second wig. Yeah, it talking to each other. Poisoned wig. Poisoned wig. He puts on a second wig. It's like when somebody has a cyanide pill in their teeth, you just push down really hard on the wig and it cracks the pill.
Starting point is 01:12:33 He, I wasn't going to say it, there's a line where he says something like, oh two of the items in here aren't legit. And it's like, well that's also, that could be said for those two because they're both pretending to be. I see. And that's good if that meant that. Yeah, but of course that leads up to, that's also that could be said for those two because they're both pretending to be. I see. Right. And that's good if that meant that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:48 But of course that leads up to what's her name? The hospital. Yes. Clare infiltrating slash shooting away through the hospital. And that's great. And I think it's three people. Yeah. And that's also the moment where you realize that like, oh yeah, no, this is she doesn't
Starting point is 01:13:01 like work for him. Like they're a team. She tolerates him and his stupid wigs, mostly. Also, as she's doing that, I'm thinking like, is this a rescue? Why would you do this? This seems pointless. Like he's dying. You're not going to be able to get... How are you going to wheel him out of there? And then say, oh, this isn't a rescue.
Starting point is 01:13:18 This is Lonnie version 2. She just needs to get close to him. This is a murder. But you see almost when he dies. It seems like relief for he's kind of like, okay. Yeah, thank God I've had enough of stupid weeks and running around I do kind of wish he like I don't know he went out in a big explosion or something But I guess that's not what happens, you know Sometimes you just like I mean he know he mean, he knew he wasn't gonna have
Starting point is 01:13:45 some spectacular death or moment of triumph. He was just like, no, you're too late. I already formed the Revel Alliance, fuck you. And then that's pretty much it. I love that moment as well. The bit where at the very end they called Saw Gerrera. And they're like, Saw Gerrera, we know you're on Jeddah. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:14:06 And he's like, you don't know anything about me. I've got it, you're on Jeddah if anything. It's like, dude, come on, why you like this? Oh, because you've been huffing fucking hyper fuel or whatever for decades. No, it could be anywhere. Yeah, it could be anywhere. This does look like the Jeddah food court, but.
Starting point is 01:14:23 It's a chain, you know, it could be anyway. This does look like the jet of food caught, but... It's a chain, you know? It could be on any planet. Yeah. And also that full circle, like coming back to Nemec's Manifesto, which we find it has been like spreading throughout the galaxy. That's right. Because even a one little, weedy little man can make a difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:38 And they don't even know like where it's from, but I'm assuming like Cassian Andor, they must have put it out there, I guess. Maybe. It's just spreading system to system. But it's, I don't know, I think, I think he knows he's going to die, right? And Bix leaves him because she knows that if they, he was going to leave, like he was like, I don't, I don't, I'll do this for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Yeah. I will talk about it again in a bit, her ending. But there's the moment where, I don't know, I thought it was just a nice little moment where before he goes he waters his plant. Right. And like, yeah, he's- And he puts on his Cassian- Yeah, his Cassian Antle. He puts on his signature Cassian Antle or Rogue One outfit. And I think like, yeah, he might not have known that he was going to die on this particular mission, but like the watering the plants, like that's not for him. No, it's for the plants. It's for the plants and it's for the next, it's like, it it's for the next it's like it's the next generation
Starting point is 01:15:26 You know, it's the next the next people to step up at Star Wars the next generation Yeah, it's it's for it's for Luke Skywalker to come in and steal all the glory at the last second Right. Yes, these guys just paid running around madly. Yeah, you get this Medal of Honor and you get all these plants We got out of some guy's apartment. He's not gonna be needed. He's dead and a coward I heard. How do you feel about him having a child at the end? I mean if it's Poe Dameron. It's not. No I know it's not. I would hate that. It's not because he I mean they can change origins. But his origin is established isn't it? Yeah his parents were in the rebellion and whatever. It's good. Yeah. And she and Bix. And she, and Bix has a nice ending,
Starting point is 01:16:06 and she goes back to the planet where a bunch of horrible stuff happens, but she doesn't let it define her. She's just like, I'm going back to the planet, because I like it. It's pretty good. It's good. It's got wheat. It's got wheat in a.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Try to kill that guy. It's got wheat in an outside table. You know? That's good. That's all you need. You know, Tony Gilroy, he said that that's actually baby Luke Skywalker. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Isn't that interesting? That's Luke Skywalker. Skywalker. No, isn't that interesting? That's Luke Skywalker Wow actually, yeah, I would also really like and it's probably not gonna happen. Mm-hmm He doesn't have to bet baby doesn't have to be anybody. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like the broom kid Yeah, you don't have to yeah It's just they don't have doesn't have to be a Palpatine No, or like he grows up and they're like your father was important and now you're important Yeah, it's like no, I like maybe he lives the life that his father wanted to live
Starting point is 01:16:51 Yeah, you know like that maybe that's the point I mean, that's the point yeah, that's the alt the sacrifice really unless they blow up this planet in a Yeah, you know sake in a comic in a comic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, or in Star Wars episode 10 or whatever Yeah, or whatever. Yeah or whatever. But yeah, like you mentioned, there's no sister. Keno Loy doesn't come back, which is again, apparently they discussed it, but he was like, I don't know, what would I do with that? Like he kind of had his moment, he did his speech.
Starting point is 01:17:18 He was needed at that particular- And he inspired another thing. Yeah. And what's his name? They're these mate from Rogue One that he lives with. Malche? Yeah, and what's his name's there? These mate from Rogue One, the he lives with. Melchi? Yeah, they're playing cards together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:28 That's good. Like that's, that's all great. He's there and it's good. Yeah. What a great show. I agree. And now everything's bad. Back to Cowboy Hut Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:17:37 What's some other stuff? Dejra ends up in prison. Amazing. Speaking of Ken O'Loy, she ends up in not the exact same prison, but pretty sure the same prison, so like a similar one. There's a moment where I'm like, is she just going to step on the floor and kill herself? Like is there going to be another one of this? We're going to do a hat trick of people trying to kill themselves?
Starting point is 01:17:56 I could see her working her way up to like running that room, but also die there. Yeah. Again, like- But again, because she did everything she thought she was supposed to do but the organization was like man it's like I need you anymore she was right like she found him yeah but she didn't do it the right way yeah I love there's a moment where you know when they get cornered in his old apartment uh-huh and the K2SO is just coming down the corridor oh Oh god. Human shielding that guy.
Starting point is 01:18:25 But no reason. This K2SO is bulletproof for the most part. So like, yeah. A real satisfying death of that guy as well. Just an awful Imperial guy who's just popped up every once in a while to be awful. And then just have K2 just be like, I could use this guy for a minute. Why not? Why not? No, I say back to Cowboy Hut Star Wars, which is the day for Loni's stuff. Now, I don't, I don't even- And the Jon Favreau stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And the Jon Favreau stuff. Exactly. I saw this pointed out on Twitter recently, and it is true that Jon Favreau, director of Iron Man, one of the best Marvel movies, is also largely to blame for a lot of the cowboy hat stars. Because he wrote or directed most of the book of Boba Fett. But also, I would also say that a lot of that is good. And so me saying that... You can say that if you want. It is true. Like Mandalorian season one and two are good.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Other things are good. Other things are good, man. There Season 1 and 2 are good. Uh-huh. Um, other things are good. Other things are good, man. There's some really good anime stuff. I mean, that Clomor's finale is incredible. Like, there is a lot of really good stuff. I just, I don't like that it all seems to be coming from, like, the same creative minds. Right, uh-huh. I mean, the idea that...
Starting point is 01:19:38 Okay, I saw this on Reddit. Mm-hmm. There was a... You know, we bloody guys. So this comes from... Somebody bloody, you bloody put it posted on Reddit, didn't a... You know me, bloody guy. Somebody bloody, you've already posted on Reddit, didn't you? This is from Joanna Robinson. You might know she wrote that... I know Joanna Lumley.
Starting point is 01:19:53 She wrote that, no. She wrote that, how the MCU conquered Hollywood book. Oh yeah, no I didn't. She's a very famous Hollywood insider. She knows a lot about kind of the goings on. And she said, she's been hearing for years that people at Lucasfilm don't, outside of Kathleen Kennedy who loves Tony Gilroy, don't really like Andor and they don't like the way people always talk about Andor being the quote unquote good one and like all that sort of stuff like that. I've heard from so many other people who have gone into pitch to Lucasfilm and
Starting point is 01:20:18 have not made it past the Filoni wall and Tony Gilroy sort of snuck his way around via his relationship with Kathleen Kennedy. Now this may or may not be true, but I think there is something to be said for, they need to open up Star Wars to more creatives. And I think a really good example was... Phoebe Waller-Bridge. Phoebe Waller-Bridge, for example, which she already did it, but you know, what if she was a robot again? All that octopus documentary came out. You know, she wrote, she made a two-part... Oh, did she? ...for Amazon.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Great. Octopus. I'm really excited. Me too. Does he keep looking at the camera and going, I love rootin maybe right? Yeah. Yeah, I think relatable He's a really good example of I think you remember Star Wars games in the 90s sure They just gave him to a bunch of different studios Yeah, they're not all good, but a lot of them are really good correct
Starting point is 01:21:00 And that's because they were allowed them to explore different genres of video games Yeah, creative teams different scales in terms of budget, all of that. And it does feel like that we're going back to the same characters and they're like, what if Ahsoka was alive? And we're like, great. I don't know, I feel like they're in love with these characters that I'm, that I think a lot of them also ran their course. And I think also the fact that if you look at what happened to the book, the book of Boba Fett, like the book of Boba Fett.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Like the the Grogu and the Mandalorian like that ran its course and he found Luke Skywalker right and that was like that that arc was done and maybe even the story is done and then they just reversed it because it's like well we love these characters and it's like yeah, but maybe You could give some of them an ending or something. Sure. I don't know. I just think it's I don't know again Not all even bet. I mean there was that recent one due to law skeleton crew. That was pretty good Pretty good, you know, but I thought the acolyte for the most part was pretty good. I thought it was fine Yeah, well, yeah, well not at all Star Wars few. Sorry. No, it's absolutely not and that's the other thing I sorry is so bitter about I don't want everything to be this like it shouldn't be like Yeah, well. Well, not all Star Wars is for you, sorry James. No, it's absolutely not, and that's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Sorry you're so bitter about it. I don't want everything to be this. Like it shouldn't be. This is completely inaccessible to a child. Like I couldn't show this to my son, he'd be like, I don't understand this. Or like, maybe I'm not giving him enough credit, but like... Is Stellan Skarsgård playing two people, he'd keep asking? And you'd have to be like, no, the man's wearing a a wig for some of his scenes. You know what I'm probably not giving enough credit he probably would like it. I like Lonnie so much I hope he
Starting point is 01:22:31 has a nice happy ending. No he dies sorry. Yeah sorry son. You might think he also dies. He's betrayed by a man he considers to be a friend who he's shared secrets about his family. Yeah. Shoots him, shoots him on a leaves him on a bench. Yeah I don't know man I just think I don bench. Yeah. I don't know, man. I just think, I don't know whether it, I don't know whether Tony Gilroy would ever come back and do anything. Maybe he should, but obviously it wouldn't be against that. But yeah, it is a, it does feel a bit, I had a similar feeling. I remember when Revenge of the Sith wrapped up, even though like I don't love it. Elated.
Starting point is 01:23:00 No, I didn't love the prequels, but it really felt like, oh, Star Wars is done. It's over. Right. No, I didn't love the prequels, but it really felt like, oh, Star Wars is done, it's over. And I do kind of have that feeling now. And I don't really think that because I think they'll keep making it. And sometime between now and the next 20 to 30 years, there will be something as good as this if they just keep going. That's true. But I don't know, I do get a sense of like, oh, this was like a real year of a thing that's
Starting point is 01:23:23 probably not going to happen again anytime soon. Yeah. And I think the, and hopefully, and maybe Kathleen Kennedy, who again, he's largely responsible for this, will see the, see how people react to it. And that will change. I'm hoping that's the case. Because I want to watch things that I like. Me too. Yeah. It's a great show. It's fucking incredible. It shouldn't be this good. It's yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I don't know how this happened. Yeah. Yeah. How they spent so much money on this. Yeah. And you can see it. And like. And the acting and the.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Yeah. The setup. I would have. I would have also loved more of it, but I also understand that. That's. You're a big greedy guts. I'm a big greedy guts and I shouldn't pay. All right.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Should we move it along? Let's move it along. To what? What we what what we read what what we're gonna read what yeah I'm doing a thing what do you what are you reading I will I watch nine hours of and or this week so yeah I've had a lot of time for other things you're so watching an ad for the fact I opened reddit as I'm want to do when I have an idle moment. Yeah. And there was an ad for the movie the Apple plus movie fountain of youth which is coming out on the 23rd So maybe I could watch it. I had a good reaction to that didn't I? What did you say?
Starting point is 01:24:34 I didn't say fuck that. No you did say that. When you were looking at that ad. No you did say that. You did say that James Which is rude. I'm really excited for it. To John Krasinski and Natalie Portman well I don't want to be rude and others replay video yes please he's jumping into a boat he's wearing a hat Dom and all Gleason is there that's cool Stanley Tucci's in there well I am I'm going to read the power fantasy we read the first issue but you just lent me your copy we are gonna cover it for the big sandwich classic Classic Comic Book Club. That's right. Speaking of...
Starting point is 01:25:07 Go on. This week's bonus thing is... Nothing! We don't do it anymore! It's the Running Man commentary, isn't it? No, it is. Might be that. Yeah. Oh, that was last week. This week, it's a We Got This Covered.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Very nice. Oh, that one we took a bunch of AI stuff as well. That's true. We get into a real AI situation. We do. That's true. Get into a real AI situation. We do, it's true. I remember that episode as a good one. Also, this will come out over the next couple of days. Dave Warnocky's podcast Book Cheat, both of us went on that.
Starting point is 01:25:35 That's correct. We didn't read, but he retold the story of the day of the Triffids to us. That's true, actually. It's a great podcast. We'll mention it again next week. Yeah. Yeah, it's good. Oh, and finally, now that the nightmare of Andor is over, I'm going to watch Poker Face.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Because I didn't. Oh yeah, I started that. I've watched one in a bit. Who's in the first episode? Who's the guest star? It's... what's her name? She's from Wicked. Cynthia Irvo. Yes, that's right. Okay, all right. Not my favorite episode, I would say. But it was good. Did you watch the previous season? Yeah. Did you like it? Yeah, it's good. I like it a lot.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Alright. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, Book Cheat comes out on a Shoes Day. So yeah, we'll make sure to mention that next week. Right. Let's go to the next segment.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Time for letters? This was sort. That was two minutes. But we're excited for The Fountain, which comes out... 23rd of May. Fountain of Youth. Actually, it's Fountain of Youth, isn't it? Yep. Comes out, hang on. Don't tell me. Okay. It's... 23rd of May. Fountain of Youth. Actually, it's Fountain of Youth, isn't it? Yep. Comes out, hang on, don't tell me. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:27 It's the 23rd of May. Just give me a minute. Okay. I need you to say nothing. Nothing? When is this coming out? When is it? There's no information.
Starting point is 01:26:35 23rd of May. Yeah, there it is. That's so soon. That's soon. Maybe we'll talk about it next week. I would love to hear you talk about The Fountain of Youth, a movie that looks like a fake movie starring one of the people that you hate the most. I don't hate John Krasinski. How did you know I went John Krasinski? Because obviously it's got to be him. If you look at this cast though, I was gonna hate anybody.
Starting point is 01:26:55 It would obviously be him but no I don't hate him. I don't hate Domino Gleason. I like him a lot. Love Stanley Tucci. Natalie Portman's great boats hats boats hats boats and hats and boats and hats that's right all right great let's move it along let's we made it to three minutes that's true that is we have a legally required minimum what we read that's right our boss the big boss is the big boss because we's the big boss. Big boss. I'm solid from the moment I saw it. But we're not clones of him, are we? No, we're normal. Yeah, he said three minute minimum. I like him. Mason, if you don't want to reach the show, you simply go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates
Starting point is 01:27:39 group where there's a whole lot of stuff going on there, threads, etc. There's one every week. Send Mason a Gmail to weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com. Make it short, make it precise. Have a compelling headline. Laser guided. Yeah. Do you want to go first? This is an email from Donald. Donald, please!
Starting point is 01:27:57 Hey boys! No. The new Running Man commentary this week is one of the funniest things you two have ever done together. My belly laughs after all these years of listening to you made me wonder what's the hardest the other has made you laugh off the air? Off the air it says. Some of these are crook. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It happens fairly regularly. Oftentimes it's I mean, oftentimes it's just one of us consistently mispronouncing a word. Together. We do a lot of Eric Cartman impressions. Or just here's a guy who's also Eric Cartman for some reason.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Why do we do that? I don't know. But it's also a lot of it is like infinite layers of like years of building on the same thing. So if we were like, Hey, it's this guy, but he's Eric Carman. People would be like, why would that be anything? Yeah, a lot of it is that. Yeah, it is. And it's a lot of it is, I know people say like, they might want to hear it, but you wouldn't like it.
Starting point is 01:28:54 No, absolutely not. It's too niche. Yeah. And are they specific to us? That's true. Yeah. I can't think of a specific, a very specific one though, but it happens like... The other day we did a bit about how you decided that you hated your kids and your new child was the toilet and you were, you're feeding dinner to the toilet. Okay. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Well there you go. It was a magic moment for me, Yeah, yeah, I don't know man. Oh, there's a reason I guess I don't remember But let's just say we're fun stupid yeah Mason and if you like we'd like that as bonus content you wouldn't Did you like this I bet you didn't This one I to Santana who says have you thought about covering superhero movies that aren't based on comic books Like push Hancock Chronicle Darkman or possibly sky high for Caravan of garbage. Absolutely. We would love to this is going to happen but that that requires a Movie to come out that isn't based. That's a superhero movie that isn't bad
Starting point is 01:30:01 Or a gap or a gap there could be a gap. There's a Gap coming up later, so we gotta fill. That's true. We could cover Samaritan, the Stallone movie where he's a superhero, or is he? Maybe he's just a sort of... He's the villain! Is he? There's twins and he's the villain! What's that?
Starting point is 01:30:15 That was the twist, because there were two... We've saw it, we watched it! We did an episode on it, didn't we? Maybe. We definitely did. There's a D.H. Stallone in it. Is there? Because Samaritan and...
Starting point is 01:30:24 You think I'm Gemini, man? I am. There's Samaritan and the evil Samaritan. Samaritan. And it turns out they're twins. No. And you think that Stallone is actually the good one, but he's actually the bad one. He's got a magic hammer or whatever happens. And there was also the one Joe Manginello did one as well.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Oh yeah, where he's a homeless guy who doesn't something. Might be a superhero, but he is a superhero. Great. Or something. He's from another planet or something? Sombra was animated. I think that's good Yeah, it was good. So yes, definitely. Mmm. Thank you. I to Mason what do you got? This is from Cole letterbox for the boys. All right, how do boys?
Starting point is 01:30:54 Hey, just a quick question for the each of you was curious if you ever thought about joining letterbox Would be great for us fans to track your guys favorites over time. Sorry though bud, it's only films, you can't give the rookie five stars. That's a shot at you James. No it's not. Enjoy your weekend mates, that's Cole from Ohio. I don't have time for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also like...
Starting point is 01:31:16 All my thoughts go into this. No, and I think everybody's covered all the bases because there's people who we know who cover movies very sincerely and they put a lot of thought into it. And there's some people who are like, they have to do like the old they'll be like, how do I summarize this review and it's a funny joke and all that sort of stuff. And I think everybody does that better than us. The only way you know our thoughts on a movie, yeah, really long winded rambling review exactly on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:31:41 There is also like, it doesn't have a star rating and you can't really tell what we think about it. There's also unofficial people doing it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Great. Like someone's made a weekly plan unofficial one. Okay, so they sometimes take quotes. So this one is from Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire.
Starting point is 01:31:57 And I apparently said, you know what? I'm not even gonna say it's the worst movie ever because this is clearly what people want. Just this, just this again and again. Wow. So there you go. So you don't remember that yeah no I don't I know I remember feeding tiramisu to your toilet son that does we're gonna about now why would I pick tiramisu as well and your kids you know I don't like to miss I guess they don't they would have my toilet son does I went into that place that makes
Starting point is 01:32:23 amazing lasagna when 1800 Lasagna? Yeah. Did you go there? I've been there. You've been there? No, I've always wanted to go there. They basically do incredible lasagna. Have you been to Good Gnocchi?
Starting point is 01:32:32 No. Good Gnocchi. It's good. But the 1800 Lasagna, they make the fucking best tiramisu. I don't even really love tiramisu. Because you have no taste buds. I have incredible taste buds. But the tiramisu was out of this world, Mason.
Starting point is 01:32:45 That's great. Maybe I'll go. Maybe I'll go this week. Maybe you should. What we readin', tiramisu and the lasagna. There you go. Got this from Jan Stevens who says, when was the first time you realized a movie was bad? As in realizing movies could be bad coming out of being a kid where everything was kind
Starting point is 01:33:00 of fine. How old were you and what movie was that? So I've talked about this before, but that happened for me for Godzilla 98 but that was more kind of like, oh big blockbusters with like stuff that I really like cannot be good. What is this? The first, I can tell you the first DVD I switched off. Yeah. Because I'm like, you know, it was in that year or you bought or you rented. Yeah. So you know, you're spending your, you're spending your money on this. And I'm like, well, every time I've got a you know I've got a gotta get watch it. It was the movie cop out the Kevin Smith movie
Starting point is 01:33:28 That's a terrible thought Bruce Willis and Tracy Morgan. Yeah, and I just I got through about 45 minutes of it And it was the so funny so unfunny and on the nose and just cliche just a real drag And this is an ob at this point. It hates that that movie too. Yeah, yeah for a bunch of reasons. Yeah. But at this point I'd been like a Kevin Smith diehard. I like all his, you know, diehard. I like all his, you know, I'd listen religiously to smod cast, which was his podcast. I don't, do you still do that?
Starting point is 01:33:55 Yeah, he does. He does a bunch of it. Okay, well I stopped. Um, and I got to about 45 minutes of this thing and I'm like, I haven't laughed once. Yeah. And then I'm like, I'll just sort of speed through to the end so I know how the plot shakes out and I went I'll never need to know you don't even need to know now I'll never be in a situation where anybody asks me how the movie cop out yeah
Starting point is 01:34:17 it's like it's important like I'll never be on a million dollar quiz show there's not enough room in the box and who wants to be a billionaire. This is how does the movie cop out end. So it's never gonna happen. So I just switched it off. I think we did watch that later together. No, there's no way we made it together. Because there's no way I would have watched it by myself. I think it was one of those things where we're like,
Starting point is 01:34:35 this is bad, let's watch it together and make fun of it. No, I don't think that was us. There's a baseball card thing at the end, isn't there? We get shot through the baseball card. I think you saw it with somebody else. That's nuts, not true. There was nobody I would watch that with other than you I could I didn't have a single person in my life would watch that with me. Wow. Yeah, which is a good now
Starting point is 01:34:51 Which you probably think of somebody who abandoned you no, I mean that has happened, but now well they eating tiramisu No, and they were sort of gurgling a bit Yeah, and they said after this can you feed me some toilet duck? Yeah, don't give me the upper decker And they were sort of gurgling a bit. Yeah. And they said after this, can you feed me some toilet duck? Yeah. Don't give me the upper decker, they said. That's right. For me as well, I remember I saw Suburban Commando, which to be fair, I did a lot of
Starting point is 01:35:16 at the cinemas. Yeah, right. And I remember my mum was going to the library to rent movies and I said, can you get something cool like Suburban Commando? And she brought back... Regular Commando. Yeah. That would have been great. something cool like suburban commander and she brought back regular commander yeah that would be great I remember I don't know if it was this time or another time but it was like the secret garden like suburban mayhem no okay so I don't know if you've
Starting point is 01:35:33 ever seen whatever I'm watching the secret garden I'm like I fucking hate this I hate this stupid British world and this the fancy fucking garden and the magic but it's not really magic. This sucks. No, I don't. I think I just was like, movies are bad and this is bad. Who made this and why? Okay, it's a movie.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Yeah, well it's a bunch of adaptations of The Secret. It's a book. Interesting. Anyway, there you go. What else, Mason? Here's an email from Sean. Sean? Yeah. Weirdunit, short and prompt. There we go. Hi, James and M Mmm. Here's an email from Sean. Sean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Weird units, short and prompt. There we go. Hi, James and Mace. So thanks for Weird Unit Wednesday. I did indeed listen to the podcast on a Wednesday. I told you. You did say somebody would do it. That's true.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Speaking of weird units and with Wally Goggs having a bit of a moment right now, who would you say is your favorite weird unit? Oh. Nicholas Cage. He is a weird- Unless he does something- Real crook. Real crook, which I don't think he has.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Yeah. He's gone bankrupt, but that's, who wouldn't if you loved Dinosaur Skulls as much as he did. And being in a limousine. I just love he shows up and he's in like, like a python skin leather jacket or whatever, and just, just pink pants and he's just being his authentic self. Um, Here's some good ones. Oh, I think, um,
Starting point is 01:36:44 Have you just Googled weird famous guys? Yeah, Daniel Day-Lewis is a great one. That's true. I don't like the performative weird units, like a Jared Leto, all that time that Joaquin Phoenix pretended to go insane to make a movie nobody watched. That's right, yeah. Although I do like Joaquin Phoenix. Tilda Swinton, great weird unit.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Absolutely. Christopher Walken, weird unit. That's almost the OG weird unit. He's a guy who's a real weird unit. Crispin Glover. That's true. Thaten. Weird unit. Oh that's almost the OG weird unit. He's a guy who's a real weird unit. Crispin Glover. That's true. That's a weird unit. I mean he weird unit-ed his way out of Hollywood for the most part.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Willem Dafoe, but he's like a nice weird unit. Yeah. He seems like personable and friendly. I feel like when you watch interviews with him, I feel like a lot of mythos has been added to him by fans. Yes. And he's like, you know you watch interviews with him I feel like a lot of mythos has been added to him by yes and he's like you know like yeah I like acting and he's kind of like yeah can people come up to me and say this and I say that's nice or whatever yeah I think he is yeah inherently that weird a great Steve Buscemi I guess he's kind of more of a not a conventional looking man I don't
Starting point is 01:37:41 think he's a weird you know Yeah, there's some weird units for you. Yeah. What do you think about Walden Goggins generally as a weird unit? Yeah, he's not that weird. Yeah, I think he gets out most of his weirdness in his Instagram captions. Yeah. Does he? I think so, yeah. I mean, I like him. Josh Brolin undercover weird unit. Oh yeah. Because he's always doing weird poetry and Yeah. And I say good on him. Yeah. Weird unit. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Lot of stuff going on. A lot of stuff going on. Weird unit. Weird unit Wednesday. That's right. Go on here Mason. It's from you. It says, hi James, you're the best. You're the best and you're my good friend. When did I send that? And I'm gonna give you money. How much money do you want to
Starting point is 01:38:19 give me? Does it say in the email? It says $10,000. Why would I send? I don't have $10,000 to give you. I'm just reading what you wrote. I guess I could parcel it out. That'd be great. You don't even need it. I'll need it. Dude, I would love 10,000. Who doesn't need $10,000? What are you talking about? I don't need $10,000. Technically, I guess I don't need $10,000 right now, but like I wouldn't turn it down. That's a very persuasive argument. All right. I'll set up a payment plan.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Actually, it says 15,000. I just realized. Oh, that sounds more like me. Stephen Dudley has also said, what do you come- I'm Stephen Dudley. I went to high school with a Stephen Dudley. Did you? Is this him?
Starting point is 01:39:03 Is it a pH or a V? pH. That's him. Is it? it might be does he listen to this? Yeah, I don't believe you you don't believe I know Decision on this I don't believe you man. He said what do you count breakfast foods considered? Eating damn eggs is a bit tricky this economy so true Mason what about you have to get up really early tomorrow, and I didn't get any cereal There's no cereal in my house dude get some cereal on house. Dude get some cereal on the way home. I should get some cereal on the way home uh Um, what what do you mean by really early by the way? Tell everybody. I have to wake up at 6.30
Starting point is 01:39:33 It's not early for a lot of people. That's what I'm gonna go to the gym mate. I get up at 6.30 to go to the gym It's astoundingly early for me. Nah man, I'm going to the gym. I'm in there people are like you're amazing Send me a text from the gym then. Send me a gym selfie. I'm not going on a Sunday. Yeah, that's what I'm in there. People are like, you're amazing. Send me a text from the gym then. Send me a gym selfie. I'm not going on a Sunday. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's early for a Sunday. We're recording on Saturday. That's right everybody. Surprise. Breakfast. I mean, if I'm at home, cereal or some porridge. Might have a bit of porridge.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Okay, that's great. This guy definitely didn't go to school with you. He's way too young. For sure, yeah. Unless that's an old photo. Could be. You said he's's gonna give me $15,000 this dude well that sounds like my generation uh crumpets James how do you feel that crump love them love crump really good crumpet or a muffin I'll do a crumpet over a muffin but muffins are more versatile you can do more with a muffin
Starting point is 01:40:18 but crumpets are exceptional if I'm going to cafe or something yeah square muff square crumpets or um? Uh, probably square. Also crumpet, you can have a vegaminer muffins, a crumpet. Still good. It's true. Does it all. Yeah. Okay. I'm doing overnight oats. Yeah, we know. Do you want to know what it is? No, cause you've explained it so many times. I've actually explained the recipe though. Yes. I didn't think I have.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Yeah. Like quantities. Yeah, you said you put in poo and spit. No, that's what I put in the toilet. Leaves. Leaves. And you leave it overnight. You leave your leaves. Fine, I won't, you know what I know, fine I won't do it, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:40:53 This isn't even for you, other people would have been interested. Did you invent this or can you just Google overnight oats and it's the first thing? No, I want a very specific recipe for something I want and okay here we fucking go Mason. Here's what you go. Let me bring it up. I make four at a time. Okay. All right. They last a week. Okay. For they last four days and sometimes Someone comes around and they'll be like I'll eat my overnight oats and I'm like got oats tomorrow and I go in there No overnight oats. Guess what? I'm down overnight oats. Yeah. Well, that's actually wow. Agreed. Where is this goddamn thing? Look, I'll do it off the top of my head.
Starting point is 01:41:27 So it's about... Weird for a thing you do four days a week. I know, it's half a cup of oats, rolled oats. Okay. Don't get anything that's already cooked. Like it's got to be like... What about unrolled oats? No, they have to be rolled big time, right? All right. You can either do two tablespoons of chia seeds. This guy's in the pocket of big rolled oats. I'm not. Two chia seeds or... Two chia seeds. Tablespoons of... Listen, pay attention! I won't.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Or two tablespoons of sliced, like, slivered almonds. Okay. I... It's pronounced almonds, but alright. In the recipe I started with, they were like two tablespoons of protein powder, but I put a whole scoop in of vanilla protein powder. But it's a tiny scoop. No, I need it.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Okay. Use your cocaine spoon. Yeah. Another addition of mine is creatine, just a good scoop. No, I need it. Okay. Use your cocaine spoon. Yeah. Another addition of mine is creatine, just a good scoop of creatine, which is really good for you. You should do creatine, Mason. Everyone's doing it.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Everyone's talking about it. Everyone's doing it. Wow. It's not even that late at night, folks. Oh no. I am. I did have a big night. One tablespoon of dark chocolate chips.
Starting point is 01:42:27 What else have I got in there, Mason? Remind me. About- Leaves? Leaves? Poop. I think it's about half a cup of skim milk and then three tablespoons of heaped of plain yogurt.
Starting point is 01:42:41 A bit of almond, what's it called? Is that almond extract? What's that stuff called? Almond extract. Yeah, you know, like the liquid or whatever. Extracted almonds, squished almonds. Bit of sweetener. I think that's everything in there.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Wow. I think that's right. Anyway, it's very good. It's filling, it's like, wow, this is great. And it's, you know, it's just there. And if you show up at James' house, he'll give you one. Oh, well, absolutely will not, because sometimes I don't have any.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Interesting. And then, I'll say, I'll put it in the container and it's got the spoon attached to it. So I'm in there and I'm like, ready to go. What if you made it same day? Oh, it's no it has to be at least a couple hours in the fridge And if I'm up in the morning like I need I have to eat it like I'm not gonna make it and then wait I'll have eggs or something else. I'll do like peanut butter and banana on toast or something like that. Okay. Yeah. No one cares about this Nobody cares about wow Mason. cares about this. Wow.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Mason. Wow, wow, wow. What's next? The end of the show. It better be the end of the goddamn show. It's the end of the show. It's the end of the gosh darn show. God, why did you talk about breakfast for so long?
Starting point is 01:43:33 I don't know, I just love breakfast. You only said cereal and crumpets. Yeah, but if I go out, I have a bigger thing. Eggs banny. Eggs banny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes I'll wait until I'll do it as like a late lunch and that will get me through to like the afternoon. Yeah. You know what
Starting point is 01:43:47 I mean? Because often I feel like they pile up those plates, which is good. Yeah. I mean, don't get me started on brunch. I'm a brunch guy. Are you? Yeah. Why would I not get you started on that though? What do you think would happen? I'd get mad that I'm not eating brunch right now and I'd kill you. What's your favorite brunch? Nobody asked that. What's your, I'm asking you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No? A listener has to ask.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Okay, somebody write in. He's not, oh, fucking hell. Bearing in mind, if you do, I'll kill James. Not a joke. Just do it though. Because this letter will get me started. Yeah. And then it ends in murder.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Do it, all right, send him it. All right. All right, Mason, what's next? Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast, because that is how we get the new listeners. And thank you for leaving a five star review on your app of choice.
Starting point is 01:44:35 If you do so, James will find it. He'll read it out. Yep. Like a madman. This one's from jkAAA07. So it's too much yappin'. It's true. And then C above.
Starting point is 01:44:44 That is true. I just did a breakfast thing for too long. So it's too much yappin'. That's true. And then C above. That is true. I just did a breakfast thing for too long. But it is five stars, so I'm reading it out. And this one's from EG1402, who says, Ben, it's your fiance. This is an intervention. You promised you would take the broken lawnmower to the tip four months ago, and it's still in our garage. Our wedding is in three months.
Starting point is 01:44:59 And you haven't removed it. And if you haven't removed it by then, I won't be taking your last name. And instead, I'll change my name to emilybigsand big sandwich dot co and I won't let you use my password anymore. Choice is yours. Love you. I don't like that they're sharing passwords. I love that's the greatest review we've ever gotten.
Starting point is 01:45:13 I think because they've just used it to wear out some dirty laundry. You can do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think is that a recently? No, it's from seven months ago.
Starting point is 01:45:23 I'm slowly working my way. So potentially the the gentleman in the picture has not heard this. Correct. He's not moved the mower. And this woman has taken the married name EmilyBigSandwich.com. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:46:22 I know with bread. Yeah, four to five. Yeah, that's way too many. I know. With bread? Yeah. Four to five? Yeah. You get them all at once? Or you go back? I could have breakfast and then brunch and then immediately go and eat four to five Bunnings sausages. That's cool.
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