The Weekly Planet - 68 Most Exciting Movies Of 2015
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With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason
Happy Australian Day
Thank you
It's pretty good isn't it?
Nah, it's alright
Yeah
Look, we got two, we, okay
On the plus side
Yes It's my dad's birthday Happy to your dad Does he listen? No Good, he's a dickhead Great Look, we got two, okay, on the plus side. Yes.
It's my dad's birthday.
Happy to your dad.
Does he listen?
No.
Good, he's a dickhead.
Great.
So he always gets a public holiday, so that's nice.
Oh, that's good.
But on the other side, literally everything else about Australia Day, you know?
Sure.
You know what I mean?
Like the flags.
The flags as capes.
Everybody's drunk dickheads.
Yeah.
You know, the little thing where we kind of celebrate the exact date when Captain Cook The flags. The flags as capes. Everybody's drunk dickheads. Yeah.
You know, the little thing where we kind of celebrate the exact date when Captain Cook came and crushed the indigenous population.
That's been going on for 200 plus years now.
What about the Triple J Hottest 100 Songs of the Year?
That's all right.
Chet Faker got it this year, I think.
I didn't listen.
I also didn't listen.
Great.
Anyway, so what I propose is we move it.
Sorry, Dad.
He doesn't listen.
And move it to like November or something where there's no public holidays.
Okay, sure.
That's a good idea.
I'm a genius.
Wait, isn't that horse race day off in November?
All right, let's make it September.
Okay.
October.
Yeah, one of those.
Different days.
Any of those three months.
Everybody needs to know about this.
Absolutely.
When I get into civic planning i should boy last
week i said that sydney's the capital of australia as well i don't think that is the case well now
you don't now you've been corrected by hundreds of people one assumes i know obviously it's adelaide
but i've got a message here my uh this is from uh alex so my birthday's on 26 26 of january
this isn't your dad your dad isn't alex is is he? He's not, no. Yeah, okay.
That'd be a weird coincidence.
It would be, wouldn't it?
Listen, I've been listening to your show, son, for 66 weeks now, and I've never had
a course to email before, but now that it's my birthday.
Now's the time.
Yeah.
Three things.
Birthday shout out.
Yes.
Happy Australia Day birthday.
That's right.
Two, an explanation of what Australia Day is.
I think you covered that.
Look, I know Australians love public holidays.
We all do.
Yes.
We all love not going to work.
Yeah, that's it.
And stuff.
And wearing things as capes.
Should they just call it Don't Go To Work Day?
They should just have a day called Don't Go To Work Day.
Yeah.
And you all get to wear capes.
And you're not restricted to Australian flags as capes.
You wear any cape you want.
You get a cape made if you want.
Okay.
Fur cape?
No, that'd probably be mean.
Great.
Yeah.
Third thing, what does Australia mean to us?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Yeah.
I'm against it, kind of, if I'm honest with you.
Can you be the official Mr. A of the podcast?
Yes, done.
Mr. A?
Yes.
I like the character.
Who?
Oh, it's the, you know, the, you know, okay, you know, Rorschach. Yes. The precursor to
Rorschach was The Question. Oh, okay. And the precursor to him was Mr. A. Ah. Sort of
similar, but not. There you go. Yeah. You've done it. Yeah. Well done. Well, I guess we
should talk about what we do on the show. Oh, yeah. What do we do on the show?
Comic book news.
Because if you listen this far and this is your first episode, you have no idea.
Yeah, exactly.
Unpatriotic nonsense ramblings.
This is the Rage Against the Machine podcast.
We do comic book news.
We do topics on stuff or whatever.
We do movie news.
We do movie news.
We do things that people-
Lighthearted banter.
Lighthearted banter.
That's right. Listing things. Listing things. Oh do movie news. We do things that people... Lighthearted banter. Lighthearted banter. That's right.
Naming...
Listing things.
Listing things.
Oh, so sometimes we just list things.
Sometimes we just list things we sort of like or remember or sort of remember from our childhoods.
Yeah.
And we hope other people also remember them.
And sometimes they do.
And then some.
Yeah, absolutely.
Pretty good.
So here's the news for this week.
Okay, I'm ready.
Barely the news or roughly the news, whatever we decide to call it.
Luke Evans has officially dropped out of The Crow.
We thought he was out of The Crow, and now he's like, yeah, I'm out.
He would have been the good The Crow.
Absolutely, he would have been the good The Crow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What can you do?
Now you know what that means.
What?
Now I'm The Crow.
Yes!
Understudy!
I've done it again.
I'm The Crow.
Excellent.
Rumor has it that, you remember, there's going to be a Star Wars spinoff movie.
Yes.
Gareth Edwards is going to do one of them.
There's going to be a few.
There's going to be one.
That's Mr. Sunshine, right?
No, that's the guy who did Godzilla's.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
His story, they say.
You know, there's going to be like a Star Wars, like a continuation story, The Force Awakens. Oh, sure. And then there's going to be like a Star Wars like a continuation story
The Force Awakens
episode 7
then there's going
to be sort of
spin-off
sort of spin-off
could be sidequels
could be prequels
exactly
then episode 8
then spin-off
then episode 9
then spin-off
could be Star Wars
babies
yes exactly
cross with the
Muppet babies
yeah
oh so good
but they say that
his
the latest rumor
is that his
spin-off movie
is going to be
a Han Solo
and Boba Fett film.
And it's going to be, you know, they were talking about a Death Star heist plan thing.
Oh, yep.
And they're both going to be involved.
Because there was rumors of a Han Solo one.
There was rumors of a Boba Fett one.
Together.
Why not, I guess.
Yeah.
But Han Solo wouldn't be helping steal those plans.
Well, if he did.
Maybe unwittingly.
Yeah, he wouldn't know what they were.
Yeah.
Because when he saw the Death Star, he was like, don't know what's up with that uh-huh yeah so who knows
yeah okay who would you like to see you play young han solo
paris and ford yep good me too yeah no makeup nothing else absolutely yeah maybe
the the title the star wars title card comes up and it says,
A Young Han Solo with Benjamin Button's Disease.
And there's never a good two again.
That'd be pretty great.
You familiar with what Marvel are currently doing with their comics and whatever?
Is there going to be another reboot?
They're rebooting it big time.
Huh.
They're smashing all the universes together.
Remember when they said that the ultimate universe was never going to cross with the...
I do remember that, yeah.
I remember you telling me that specifically.
And there was an issue where it was implied that they were going to cross over,
then it turned out to be the zombie universe.
Yeah.
Was that right?
So the Fantastic Four, the Ultimate Fantastic Four,
sort of came into contact with like an older Reed Richards
who looked a lot like the classic Reed Richards.
Yeah.
And people were like, no, they said they'd never do it.
And then it turned out it was the Marvel zombie universe.
Yeah.
It was like fake out.
But yeah, now they've...
Well, I mean, and since Six Ones, the current Marvel universe, the 616 universe.
Yeah.
The Spider-Man has crossed over with Ultimate Spider-Man.
Yeah.
So he's met Miles Morales.
Yeah.
Et cetera.
So it's kind of, yeah, we've...
The barriers have come down now.
Sure.
Why not just smash them together?
How's this going to happen?
Give me some details.
I can't remember.
They're going to mash together.
But it's basically,
Two Worlds are going to be the Ultimate Universe
and the 616 Universe.
And they're going to film something called Battleworld.
And remember when they were talking about...
I only kind of skimmed over this.
I'm like, you know what?
When it starts being released, then I'll kind of skimmed over this and I'm like you know what I'll get
when it starts being released
then I'll kind of get a handle on it
but my basic understanding of it is
then every kind of country
is a different
significant Marvel event
like ones like Planet Hulk
ones
Old Man Logan
ones
all the major events
they're becoming physical locations
they're becoming physical locations
so yeah Battleworld
there was a crossover many years ago in the 80s called Secret War.
Yeah.
Where there's being called the Beyonder, who are, you know, ultimate, ultimate powers.
And that's what this is called, isn't it?
Secret War 2 or something?
There's already been two Secret Wars, mate.
Okay, so another Secret War.
There's been Secret Wars 1, Secret Wars 2, and Secret War, which is a different thing.
Hang on, I'll find out what it's...
I should know this.
Anyway, the Beyonder gathered all the heroes and had them sort of fight for his amusement.
That's where Spider-Man found his black alien costume.
And he never got rid of it, did he?
No.
I don't know.
Secret Wars.
Oh, with a Z.
No, just Wars.
Secret Wars.
With a Z.
Yeah.
Great.
No.
Yes.
Doesn't matter.
No, it really doesn't.
Yeah.
So, sure.
Whatever.
Fergus says, love to know your thoughts on it. And he says, hot tip, it's bollocks. Yeah, I, sure, whatever. Fergus says, love to know your thoughts on it.
And he says, hot tip, it's bollocks.
Yeah, I'm not...
And he said, can it be the official ballad of the show?
And he also says, no one says canned beer.
But we got about half-half emails on that.
Absolutely, we did, yeah.
Oh, we got half-half, did we?
Yes, we did.
I don't believe you.
And I'm not willing to check the emails to find out.
You didn't even drink beer.
I know.
Anyway, so, is this going to result in
is this just an event or will it will it actually result in the universe being reverted it's
basically resulting in combining everything and killing off certain characters the same way that
dc did with their crisis on right and then at the end there's going to be one world left yeah it's
going to be one world i don't see marvel have always dc when they want to reboot their universe they always do it the
same way they always have like some sort of big crisis situation that's going to annihilate all
of reality and then the heroes band together and they stop it right at the end and then but you
know enough changes have taken place that
you know reality is altered and they can make whatever editorial changes they want whatever
and you know streamline it and stuff marvel have always done it like an you know on an individual
basis like so per account like they did with iron man yeah so what they'll do is usually almost
almost always it'll be like spider-Man will be fighting a bad guy.
And then he'll get like crushed under a, like he'll get trapped under a building.
And he'll like be hit in the head or something.
And then he'll like think back to his past.
He'll be like, how did everything come to this kind of thing?
And then you'll flashback, but it'll be like a more modern context or whatever.
So he's not wearing the sweater vest and the bow tie anymore.
He's like, he's been modernized. But he be now yeah that's back in yeah yeah they did it
to that that's all i'm saying oh yeah go on yeah so and then at the end of the issue then then you
see the new then the rebooted origin and then he's like i remember i'm spider-man and then he lifts
the building or whatever and then it moves on like they do it with those like so they'll do it every
five years or whatever yeah yeah but it doesn't ultimately make that much of a change i was thinking more when they made we
talked about this recently the young iron man they brought in kid iron man to replace adult
oh yeah sure yeah so they kind of do it like that as well yeah totally and then when they're tired
of that they just sweep it under the rug and tell no one yeah that's it i mean so basically i think
we're going to come out with a you know of characters. It's kind of like the new 52.
Right.
But I'd say most of the characters are keeping their origin.
The ones that remain, I would say, keep their origin.
I would say we're probably going to get both Miles Morales and Peter Parker in the same universe.
That would make a lot of sense.
And I reckon they'll probably kind of push a lot of the X-Men to the side because of the movie's connection and whatever.
And the Fantastic Four, they've been kind of, not completely, the X-Men still are really popular, but the Fantastic Four, they've been very subtly.
Yeah.
Kind of.
Nudging them out.
Nudging them out.
So I'd imagine there'll be more of an emphasis on the Avengers you see in the movies.
Yeah.
I was just going to say, I think they're going to... Everybody's origin is going to be slightly tweaked,
so they look and act exactly like the movie counterparts, I think.
Yeah.
I think that's also...
That's been DC's strategy as well, I think.
Yeah.
Give them enough of a tweak that they...
You can watch the movie and then open a comic book
and it's much the same as, you know...
Yeah.
I'm talking specifically about the underpants situation.
Oh, I thought you were going to talk about Batmite but oh yeah sure him as well yeah sure yeah no that makes
sense so look these things happen all the time i'm not really fussed by it to be honest i don't
know see ultimately like i feel i've i don't really feel like i have a connection to the dc
universe anymore because of that clean break yeah because every this doesn't sound as much of a
clean break yeah like i don't know i've i't sound as much of a clean break, though.
Like, I don't know.
I've read through a lot of these universe reboots.
Yeah.
And I was fine up until the new 52, I think.
Yeah.
And then I'm just like, no, I don't really...
You didn't have to give them another set of origins again.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
It would have been, you know, yeah.
But that's done really well.
They haven't bloody got my $2.99, have they?
Eh?
Look, it's...
This guy's keeping his piggy bank full of $2.99s
or whatever a comic book costs nowadays.
I don't know.
Yeah, look, I think...
I think because they're keeping a lot of the oranges,
I think it's just a kind of...
And you know what?
This is what I was going to say.
Like with the New 52, the New 52 is convoluted again.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like you go through it and there's Future's End
and like Batman's got like eight different comics going at once.
And Superman, you know, on one hand is wearing like jeans
and a blanket cape or whatever.
But at the same time, he's in the Justice League
and he's wearing a full costume or whatever.
So they're in different time periods.
It's very unclear.
They move past the T-shirt thing.
But yeah, you're right.
That's how it started.
So it all becomes convoluted quite quickly anyway.
And I think they'll find that with the...
Because you know how they rebooted the Star Wars canon?
Yes.
The Expanded Universe.
And they're like,
this is the new Expanded Universe.
It'll quickly become convoluted again.
Yeah, absolutely. As it always does. Well, that happened with when they created the Ultimate Universe in the first place. Yeah. like this is the new expanded universe it'll quickly become convoluted again yeah absolutely
well that happened with when they created the ultimate universe in the first place yeah it was
kind of like where we're streamlining this for uh for a new audience like a younger audience who
maybe you've watched the movies and they want to pick up you know just a comic book and read a fun
story about spider-man kind of thing free of all you don't have to know who all these characters
are and you don't have to you know know about all this continuity and all these relationships or whatever but i reckon maybe
six months into that it just became a race between all the creators as to who could make the ultimate
version of every single character as quickly as possible okay yeah because people like what's
ultimate deadpool gonna look like and they had to put him in it what's ultimate venom gonna look
and they had to so yeah so it just became exactly as complicated just in a much shorter span of time.
Instead of being 40 years, it was like,
we have to do this in three years kind of thing.
Fantastic.
I'm all for it.
Yep.
I'm indifferent.
Oh.
Jessica Eisenberg.
Sorry.
That wasn't a slight on him.
That was an honest mistake.
Jesse Eisenberg.
Sure, yeah.
I don't think he's...
There wasn't supposed to be derogatory.
I don't care with him being Lex Lut luther he's a fine actress joking got actor we all say
that was on purpose oh by the way yes apparently it is actress because that's when the academy
awards announced they're all actresses and actors so it's not female actor anymore no i think it's
i think they're probably they're just bogged down in... They are bogged down. They're bogged down, that'll be it.
In Old Men.
Correct.
Yeah.
He said he'd love to play Lex Luthor again,
so this is after the Batman v Superman.
Sure.
And also he was asked...
Well, we'll see in like eight years then,
because that's when the next DC movie comes out probably.
Yeah, well, he could pop up in Suicide Squad.
Yeah, I guess so.
Which would be good.
Good to see.
That's the same year.
They're both coming out next year.
Okay.
But he said, he was asked if he was a fan of Superman growing up,
and he said, no, I never minded him.
That's an odd phrasing right there.
Yeah, sure.
I never minded him.
But, you know, that's a good thing, though, I guess,
because Lex Luthor doesn't mind him either, does he?
No, he certainly doesn't mind him.
So, yeah, he was also asked, like, did he go back and watch any of the stuff?
And he said he watched, like, the Gene Hackman kind of era,
and I think he might have mentioned the Kevin Spacey one,
just to get, like, a frame of reference and whatever.
But I can't imagine that there'd be any crossover between.
Absolutely not.
Yeah, I'd hope not anyway.
Let's leave that Lex Luthor in the past.
Let's get Battle Armor Lex Luthor and a Lex Luthor who can do something.
Yeah, aside from a shady land deal.
Yeah, aside from a shady land deal.
So did he say, so he enjoyed his time as Lex Luthor then?
Yeah, he liked working with everybody, like the cast and the crew and everything.
So yeah, that's good.
I mean, you're not going to say, you wouldn't be like, hey, that sucks.
I might, though.
Yeah.
What if he's established enough in Hollywood and he's like, I'm going to burn some bridges now?
That would be pretty.
I was Mark Zuckerberg.
I was that sad teen in Adventureland.
I'm invincible in this town.
I do what I want.
You saw The Double, didn't you?
Yes.
But you didn't like it?
No, I didn't. It's hard to. He's no i didn't it's hard it's hard he's good though isn't he yeah he's good yeah but i think i think i mentioned this on the podcast
it's kind of it's this weird terry gilliam-esque surreal world yeah and so it's hard to invest
and and this is a character who's having real like issues and like you know mental problem
depression and that kind of thing yeah and it's kind of it's kind of hard to invest richard um ayo are they from the it crowd yeah yeah it's kind of hard to invest in
a character having real problems in a surreal world for me anyway is it like well why not just
take it right on a unicorn across a rainbow you dickhead kind of thing you know
you shout none of the screen yeah none of those none of those things are in that in that
world but there are other options you know what i mean absolutely yeah i was going to include this you shout on the screen yeah none of those none of those things are in that in that movie world
but there are other options
you know what I mean
sure
absolutely
yeah
I was going to include this
but I just wanted your thoughts on it
Ezra Miller was asked about
how did he feel
when he got cast as The Flash
because he's
the movie version
of The Flash
you know he's kind of like
a kind of a hipster kind of dude
yeah yeah
people have a problem with that
and I'm okay with it
but whatever
but his response was
Zack Snyder told me on the phone that he wanted me to play the flash while i was eating uh tilapia
in a small central american village that was definitely a moment that prompted me to question
the fabric of my reality what a knob yeah that's a knob thing to say i guess so yeah you put in a
whole lot of details they did oh you're you're visiting villages. That's amazing. Having some exotic food, are we?
Yeah.
Enjoy the contemplating reality, are we?
You got Zack Snyder's phone number, have you?
Well.
I mean, come on.
I'm sure he was like, I've just got to take this.
It's Zack Snyder, the film director.
I don't know if you're familiar with him.
I imagine you are.
Even in this faraway village that I'm in.
Yeah.
You've probably heard of him.
So look, that's fine.
Everybody finds themselves, don't they, in whatever.
I don't know.
I hate that shit.
It just binds me up.
I don't know why.
Good on him.
He'll be great.
I like him as well as an actor.
So great, great.
Refresh my memory.
What's he in again?
Is he in Girls?
We need to talk about Kevin.
Okay, right. He could be in Girls, but he's again? Is he in Girls? We need to talk about Kevin. Okay, right.
He could be in Girls, but he's not.
Okay, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's Kevin.
He's in Perks of Being a Wallflower.
He's really good.
He's really good.
Okay.
X-Men casting.
They've cast young-
Oh, from X-Men Apocalypse.
Yes.
They've cast young Storm, young Jean Grey, and young Cyclops.
Alexandra Shipp.
So Cyclops, it doesn't matter?
Doesn't matter.
Ty Sheridan. He was in Mud, apparently, doesn't matter ty sheridan he was in mud apparently which
i haven't seen he was in mud mud just he was just in a pile of mud in a south american village oh
that's fancy uh yeah he's in stuff huh um alexandra ship who was in stuff also who storm
and the other one i recognized was sophie turner who's in game of thrones as jean gray
but you don't watch game she's in great she's in Game of Thrones as Jean Grey but you don't watch
Game of Thrones
she's in Game of Thrones
as Jean Grey
yes
weird anachronism isn't it
it's strange
but you know
it works
I can't explain it to you
because you haven't seen it
no
one day I will
I actually got a letter here though
yes
from Griffin W
from Atlanta, Georgia
here's a story about
the actress
Alexandra Shipp
oh yes
he said this past summer I was a band member extra for the movie Drumline a new beat Atlanta, Georgia. Here's a story about the actress, Alexandra Shipp. Oh, yes.
She said, this past summer, I was a band member extra for the movie Drumline, a new beat,
when she was the main character. Since I was a member in that movie's marching band, I got to meet and spend quite a few
hours around her on set.
Isn't it fun that we get these emails?
How good is it?
This has come to us.
Yes.
This is an exclusive.
This is a Weekly Planet exclusive that i've just derailed you'll
have to start again you're just so excited yeah i'm not gonna start i'm just gonna go on okay fine
i've lost it i've lost the whole train drum line she's in it she's in it he was an extra great
while the experience was new and interesting to me i'm not a fan of her acting abilities
oh she's not very good sick burn very dry tv movie level acting at best with that i don't
think she'd be very good Storm on any level.
Not sure what Bryan Singer is thinking on this one.
Also, can I be the official Superman neck snap of the podcast?
Yes.
P.S. The movie turned out to be shit.
Oh, fantastic.
I haven't seen her in anything.
I'm sure she'll be fine.
I mean, I'm sorry that that movie wasn't good.
She was probably...
Snyder was probably thinking... You mean Singer. She was probably, Snyder was probably thinking.
You mean Singer.
Singer was probably.
Snyder was probably also thinking something.
He was probably thinking.
Yeah.
Probably thinking of who can I call, who can I call in a distant South American country
right now?
I'm just going to make this long distance call.
Singer was probably thinking, hey, remember Halle Berry's acting in X-Men 1?
Yeah.
We need someone dry and maybe not very good at acting.
Okay, sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember when you delivered that line, the toad line on the show.
It was really, really good.
I'm not going to make you do it again.
No, because I can't remember how it ended.
It was really, really good.
Great.
Yeah.
Halle Berry's okay, right?
She can be really, really good in things.
Well, she was better in two.
Yeah, she was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nah, that's fine.
I'm sure all those people will be fine.
Yeah.
Yep.
Fantastic.
Oh, this is from, I've got an email from Krista Barron as well.
She's a Rick and Morty animator.
Oh, yes.
She's the official Rick and Morty of the podcast.
It's coming back mid-year.
She's giving us updates.
But also, there's a Rick and Morty comic coming out April 1st.
And I read, like, a bit of it.
That sounds like a funny April Fool's prank.
No.
I did think that no it's real
okay great
I mean
I hope so
what I read was
that's real
no but that's
that sample is a prank
okay
yeah
wow elaborate
very elaborate prank
on you
yeah
yeah
you look like quite the dunce
very excited
I'm not sure if everybody's
a fan of that show
but I am
and that's great
thank you Krista.
Chiwetel Ejiofor is in talks.
Wait, wait.
Are they going to put animated versions of us in it?
Yes.
Oh, good.
Wait, no.
Oh.
Sorry.
Is that a prank, though?
And they actually are.
Is that a sweet April Fool's prank that you're saying they're not going to put us in it?
We'll have to wait and see.
Okay.
I'm seeing through your little prank.
Should we do an April Fool's episode?
What does that even mean?
We'll be like,
Pachow, here's the fake news.
Pachow.
You know?
Imagine.
That's worse than taking a phone call
in a South American village,
or wherever he was.
Isn't the internet the worst place on April Fool's Day?
It really is.
Yeah.
It's just...
Google's invented a new thing.
It's a hoverboard.
Yeah.
Yay.
Like, I remember YouTube did a thing where, like,
we've reached our quota for YouTube,
and now we've collected all the data.
We're shutting down YouTube.
Mission successful.
Like, shut up.
Or, like, the page is upside down.
Yeah.
Stop it.
Or every video becomes Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up or whatever.
Yeah.
Great.
Basically, we hate YouTube.
It's our bread and butter.
You should...
Partly.
YouTube, you should ban James again.
That's all I'm saying.
Just as a goof.
Chiwetel...
I've reached 100,000 subscribers.
Oh, yes.
I was talking about it last week.
Chiwetel Ejiofor is in talks for a Doctor Strange role.
Oh.
And I read some articles on it.
And you know how they'll just go... They'll go to, like, the Wikipedia. And they'll is in talks for a Doctor Strange role. Oh. And I read some articles on it. And you know how they just go, they'll go to like the Wikipedia.
And they'll find all the characters in Doctor Strange.
Yeah, exactly.
One of them was like, maybe he's Wong.
Sure.
You know, the Chinese monk.
Yeah, sure.
Is he Chinese?
I don't know.
But yeah.
Chiwetel certainly is not Chinese.
I guess he could be.
Yeah.
He could be Doctor Strange's love interest, Claire.
You know? Could be that. But you know could be Doctor Strange's love interest, Claire. You know?
Could be that.
But you know...
Dormammu.
Yes, exactly.
He could be that weird window in Doctor Strange's house with the funny curvy bits on it.
Yeah, that's good, isn't it?
He could be the window.
He could be the window.
Baron Mordo could be a chance.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Okay.
But you know what?
He'd be like...
He would be a good Wong.
But I feel like...
Wouldn't... I think he'd be better suited to give him his own movie and his own character.
Yes.
Don't you think?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's good enough.
I would, yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And he's not in enough stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Serenity movie was good, wasn't it?
Pretty good.
Took that bloody sword like a champ.
Absolutely he did.
Oh, what?
Blimmin' heck. sing yeah brilliant so yeah so he's going to be in it hopefully but i'd rather see him as somebody else he's in a show you know idris elba's in that
show luther yes where he's the top crime dog yeah jesse eisenberg watched it uh chew a tell ego4
is also in a show that's similar to that top crime dog top crime dog you should everybody
should watch it because it's good.
What's it called?
The Something Line.
I'll figure it out.
Okay.
Continue with the news.
That's the news.
Now we've got more news.
Oh, more news.
I love news.
Melissa Benoist
was cast as Supergirl
for the Supergirl TV series.
Great.
Which they're going to call
either Super or Girl.
Is that the one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because why call it Supergirl?
They'll call it Kara or whatever.
They can't call it girl because it's too similar to girls.
Oh, yeah.
That's a really good point.
Yeah, it's annoying.
Sometimes when I go to download girls, I mean, if I did download things illegally, which I don't.
And if specifically you downloaded girls?
Yes.
I watch girls.
Okay, fine.
I hate everybody on that show but i'm
fascinated that it's written that way and i know that i'm supposed to hate them right yeah it's
amazing and it works on you yeah it does is there an episode yes do we have this conversation is
there an episode where they meet like the opposite versions because you know how i love very special
christmas episodes i also love episodes of anything where the cast meets the opposite numbers.
Like in Seinfeld?
Like in Seinfeld or like, you know, there's a...
There's the Bad Justice League?
The Bad Justice League or like, you know, they're a team of like, you know,
they're like a team and one's the fighty guy and one's the computers guy
and one's the demolitions guy or whatever.
And they meet a team that's exactly the same the flash team met the arrow team yeah when flash team
met arrow team exactly i love those so if there's an episode of girl like i got no interest in girls
necessarily yeah you never seen it no uh like five minutes the first episode okay uh but if
there's an episode where they meet the boys i'll be super keen to watch that i would watch an
episode before just to get a handle on them.
Yeah.
Then I'd watch that episode
then I'd never watch another episode.
Alright, well I will keep you informed.
Remember when Red Dwarf
meets Girl Red Dwarf?
Yeah, that was good.
Good.
That's coming back as well.
And Evil Red Dwarf.
They also met Evil Red Dwarf.
They did meet...
They've made a few Evil Red Dwarfs.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's a great show.
And it's coming back, you say?
Yeah.
Why is that not in the news?
I don't know,
it's just like been around
for a few months.
Right, right.
Yeah, but I only found out recently so I'm like it's not news because it's just it's news to me
but there was going to be a red dwarf movie for just a decade it never happened it's better that
it's going to tv though yeah that last season was super good solid it was really good it was way
better than it has been yeah definitely yeah she would tell each of four Strange. No. That was some of that fake news you were practicing.
Melissa Benoist.
Do you know who she is?
No.
She's in stuff.
You can look her up if you want.
No.
She looks like her.
She's fine.
I think it's a good thing.
I wonder how they're going to handle the flying and all the powers and whatever, all that stuff.
Do you think the CW is going to shift away from like teen drama to more superhero stuff?
Is this the CW? I think it is. Or it might not be. What do you think the CW is going to shift away from like teen drama to more superhero stuff? Is this the CW?
I think it is.
Or it might not be.
But what do you think?
What do I think?
What network do I think it's going to be on?
Based on no knowledge.
No, like, do you think they're going to shift away from that because this is where we're at?
How much teen drama do they do?
They do quite a bit.
I'm sure they do Teen Wolf or something.
But they also do like Supernatural.
Right.
And other things probably.
They did that Supernatural spin-off that didn't get picked up.
Who was the main character in that?
I don't know.
Was it the dad?
No, it was like another guy.
He was in an episode.
Uh-huh.
And then he was like, I'll do my own Supernaturally set.
Oh, it was Mork.
It was Mork.
It was Mork from Mork?
Yes, it was.
Yeah.
Simon Pegg.
Oh, I know what this is.
What?
He's writing the next Star Trek movie
He is
Yeah
He's gonna have a hand in it
That's pretty good
That is good
I'm happy with that
I think that's good
Cause that's
Like he's
He's a bonafide nerd
Yes
And
He seems like
One of those guys
Who's had an idea
For a Star Trek script
Yeah
Up his sleeve
For like
20 years
Yeah yeah
Absolutely
So
I'm happy with that
Do you
You know it was weird when...
The Shadow Line is what it was called.
Okay.
The Chiwetel Ejiofor.
All right, cool.
One.
Top dog.
Top crime dog.
The Ej, he's the top crime dog.
Do you remember when that Star Trek movie came out
and I went, wow, Star Trek is actually cooler than Star Wars now?
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
And more relevant.
And then that quickly changed again? For you. For me. But after Star Trek is actually cooler than Star Wars now. Yeah, I remember that, yeah. And more relevant. And then that quickly changed again.
For you.
For me.
After Star Trek Into Darkness.
We have this conversation literally every second week, I think.
And again, I do give Star Trek Into Darkness a lot of credit
because it had a fun romp at the start.
Yes.
And I love that.
And the media.
That's another show where they meet evil versions of themselves.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Mirror Universe.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Somebody's got a weird goatee, that's always good.
All I'm saying is the hype for Star Wars
is bigger than Star Trek.
People will ask us to do a Star Trek, Star Wars episode,
and we will. Yep. I enjoy...
Definitively, what's better? What's better?
Okay, great. So I'm just going to quickly say this now.
I enjoy Star Wars more, even though, as you've said,
what is it, two out of the
one in three movies are terrible? Look, specifically I've said, and I don't think I've said what is it two out of the one in three movies are
terrible look specifically I've said and I don't think I've said this on the podcast okay but based
on based given that like there's a lot of really good expanded universe stuff yeah you know despite
the fact they've annihilated it it still exists in the world and you can get it yeah you know
there's been a lot of great video games a lot lot of great comic books, a lot of great spin-off novels.
A lot of great Christmas specials.
That's one super great one.
The best one they've ever done.
What if they do another one?
They would never.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Do it right this time. Yeah.
Nah, do it wrong.
When you put, basically, yeah.
Just do it wrong.
Of the six, what I'm saying is, when somebody says they love Star Wars, 99% of people are
talking about just the movies.
And Empire Strikes Back.
And I find it odd that there are six Star Wars movies and two-thirds of them are garbage.
That's all I'm saying.
There's two great ones.
There's an okay-ish one that just finishes the trilogy and everything else is garbage.
Fair.
Yeah.
Okay.
I enjoy...
I'm more excited for Star Wars than Star Trek.
I enjoy Star Wars more, but I think Star Trek might be a better built world.
Yeah, maybe.
That makes more sense.
Right.
I don't know.
See, I think...
I have a feeling that's based on nothing.
Yes, good.
But I think Simon Pegg, he's an an actor but he's also a fan of stuff yeah and i
i would imagine he given the reins of writing some of star trek i think he's gonna go
i didn't love the fact that into darkness was essentially you know wrath of wrath of khan
let's do something i'm gonna do something original yeah and i would love that yeah because that was
the plan for the reboot in the first place to do something original. Yeah. And I would love that. Yeah. Because that was the plan for the reboot in the first place, to do something original.
Exactly.
And then they didn't.
Then they Ultimate Universe did it.
And they bloody Wrath of Khanda.
But anyway, I'm looking forward to it, though.
I think it's going to be cool.
Me too.
I hope.
Yeah.
So you've got, he's just got a hand in it.
Yeah, I think he's co-writing it or something.
Justin Lin is directing it, who's done things, I think.
Sure.
Do you want to know?
That's on his resume.
I've done things, I think. Do you want to know that's on his resume I've done things I think
do you want to know
the rumoured line-up
for the Justice League
Dark movie
yes
which hasn't got a release date
but apparently
Guimero del Toro
is doing it
when you say line-up
do you mean characters
yes
Constantine
correct
do you think they'll use
TV Constantine
no definitely not
is that still going
yes
apparently it's good
alright
or good enough
for people who like it
Jason Blood is he in it correct uh going yes apparently it's it's good all right or good enough ah like it Jason
blood is he in it correct uh Clary and
the witch boy nope yeah I'm Anna okay
yeah that makes sense and dead man okay
yeah that's a small cast yeah there
might be more or less probably not less
be weird some of these were fake outs
it's just Constantine it's just an
episode of Constantine we're putting on the big screen.
We're going to see how it goes.
Yeah, that sounds like a decent light up.
I'm okay with that.
Tyrese Gibson is...
You should put in Clara and the Witch Boy, though.
Okay.
We'll tell you about...
Doing witchy stuff.
Cool.
You read Witches, the comic?
The Zack Snyder comic?
Yeah.
Not Zack Snyder.
Zack Snyder.
Braff.
No. What's his name? But he... Zack from Sav. Zack Snyder. Braff. No.
What's his name?
But he writes all the
Batman.
Zack from Saved by the Bell.
Yes, him.
He writes Batman and all
that stuff.
Oh, yeah.
It doesn't matter.
It's late again when we're
doing this.
It's very late, yeah.
It's hot.
It's not that hot.
Not that hot.
Yeah.
It's just late.
We've been Australia
daying.
Not really.
Nah.
I did it by myself.
You?
I was doing other stuff.
Good for you.
Yeah.
All right.
Tyrese Gibson said he wants to play Jon Stewart.
Okay, cool.
This is from Ta Tuan Ku.
That's Ka, sorry.
He's the official Miles Malara's wannabe.
I'm sorry I pronounced your name wrong, even though he spoke it out for me.
You pronounce literally every word in that sentence wrong.
He pronounced it out phonetically for me.
T-U-H, that's Ta.
Yeah.
And then T-A-W-N. Ta Tuan phonetically for me. T-U-H, that's ta. Yeah.
And then T-A-W-N.
Tatuan.
Tatuan.
K-U-H.
Tatuanka.
Ish.
Yes.
Great.
His official morale is wannabe.
Yeah, what do you think he said about that?
You specifically.
He asked you.
He doesn't want to know what I think.
Ah, Tyrese Gibson.
Okay, what does Tyrese look like with hair? Doesn't. He doesn't. What would he look like with hair? I don't know what I think. Ah, Tyrese Gibson. Okay. What does Tyrese look like with hair?
Doesn't.
He doesn't.
What would he look like with hair?
I don't know.
Like you.
Yeah.
Like real handsome.
Real handsome.
Yeah.
I don't know. He doesn't have to have hair, does he?
No, but I...
Jon Stewart is a man with hair.
Yeah.
And often a sweet beard.
Sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
He's got hair sometimes.
Somebody Photoshop that.
Tyrese Gibson.
Hair and a beard.
Okay. And a green lantern ring. Tyrese Gibson, hair and a beard. Okay.
And a Green Lantern ring.
I don't think he needs it necessarily.
I think he'd be fun.
Yeah, okay.
You know what I mean?
He's a Fast and the Furious guy.
Yeah, he's a Fast and the Furious guy.
Okay, yeah.
I think he'd be good.
But John Stewart has never struck me as fun.
No, but I feel like that merged Hal Jordan and...
Remember when they tried to make Hal Jordan
fun in Green Lantern
2011 or whatever it was?
But I feel like...
That I saw a couple
of weeks ago
and now I'm an expert on.
But nobody's fun
in their cast, it seems.
Yeah.
I mean, that I can see.
Oh, okay.
So you're saying...
You need a wisecracking
space kind of cowboy kind of dude. Normally the Flash is the wisecracking guy. Oh, okay. So you're saying you need a wisecracking space kind of cowboy
kind of dude.
Normally the Flash
is the wisecracking guy.
Yeah.
No, the Flash
is pretentious in this one.
He sure is.
Boy, is he.
All right.
Well, that's the news
for this week, Mason.
And we said,
even though it's very late.
I can't say Matt
at Tyrese Gibson.
See?
He's a charmer.
All right.
And he's all about
he's campaigning on Twitter.
Oh, you know,
he's got a little bit of hair in this photo. Yep. Look at that. That's the Jon Stewart hair. He can He's a charmer. All right. And he's all about he's campaigning on Twitter. Oh, you know what? He's got a little bit of hair
in this photo.
Yep.
Look at that.
That's the Jon Stewart hair.
He could get some
road gang going.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, why not?
Yeah, he's campaigning
on Twitter as well
to kind of
but I don't know
if these campaigns
often work out.
Sometimes,
every now and then they do.
Literally,
when has it worked ever?
There was an example of it
and I can't remember
what it is.
So it's worked
literally once
and I don't know.
In a role so minor
that you can't remember
what it is
correct
great
it was a Marvel one though
for whatever it was
can't remember
it was Robert Downey Jr.
as Iron Man
that's right
yeah
nobody wanted him to do it
oh it was Stan Lee
it was
as Janitor
as Janitor
in one of the amazing
Spider-Man movies
yep
it was Stan Lee
as the postman
in Fantastic Four 2
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Let's talk about most anticipated summer blockbusters of this year and movies of this year
we should say we're going to do it early in the year but we thought why not not do it and then
think about doing it and then do it in like late january that was our that's what we thought
honestly though not a lot of stuff has come out yet no because january in a shithouse so it doesn't
matter doesn't matter first good thing well there's been a few good ones i don't think i've
seen anything i saw taken three it was terrible Well, there's been a few good ones. I don't think I've seen anything. I saw Taken 3.
It was terrible.
Great.
But there has been something.
I can't remember what it was.
But I didn't see it.
What a story.
It's so good.
Kingsman.
That's the exclusive that people come to this for.
Kingsman Secret Service.
Looks great.
That's the big one for me.
The first one, that is.
That's what...
I did a most anticipated movies of the year.
That was in my top five.
Because I love the director.
I love the cast.
It looks super fun.
So it's a young man.
Yep.
Actor I can't remember.
Yep.
And he's like a...
A man.
He's a man.
He's a layabout.
He's a British layabout.
He's a lad.
And then...
And he's constantly getting in trouble with the law.
Yes. Stealing Jaguars and Bentle and he's constantly getting in trouble with the law. Yes.
Stealing Jaguars and Bentleys and so forth.
British cars.
British cars.
Yeah.
Ranger Rovers.
All the greats.
And then his uncle, who's played by Colin Firth.
Morris Minor.
Morris Minors.
Sure.
I don't know any of those cars.
No, it's good.
None of those cars could be British.
But anyway, go on.
And so his uncle, Colin Firth.
Yeah.
In his first kind of big action role, I'd say.
Yeah, trying to think of...
He had that punch up with Hugh Grant.
I was just going to say, you can't think of...
I was trying to think of him swinging a punch, but it's just that in...
Bridget Jones, Edge of Diaries.
Both of them.
And you just imagine him swinging a punch and then falling over. Yeah, exactly. Bridget Jones Edge of Diaries both of them right and it's just
you just imagine him
swinging a punch
and then falling over
yeah
exactly
and so Colin Firth
is the uncle
who's trying to get him
out of trouble
by bringing him
into Kingsman
which is this
independent secret service
kind of situation
and it looks super awesome
it does look awesome
and also you see Colin Firth
in those fight scenes
I don't know if you've seen
any clips of it
but he looks really good doing it as well.
Great.
He's just sweeping back and forth.
Great.
Being suave.
Yeah, and I think it looks way better than the comic,
which, as we talked about last week, is okay.
Yeah, it's a little...
It's a bit bland.
A little bland, yeah.
Some great ideas.
Yeah.
But it's not...
I think you talked about the art style in particular
doesn't suit what it's going for.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So I'm super looking forward to it.
It's got all the things you want in a spy movie.
Spies.
Spies.
Morris Miners.
Morris Miners.
An umbrella that shoots things.
It's got all the things you want in a spy movie or like a backup Batman story with the penguins.
I'm so glad that this looks like
it's finally found and again we haven't seen any of these and we can't spoil them i guess because
we haven't seen them but i feel like it's found that right balance between super serious spy
movies and johnny english yes like but in the best way do you know what i mean like not that
i've ever seen johnny english i'm sure it's great. It's probably not. Have you seen Johnny English 2? Yes.
A bit more English?
Great.
It's probably Johnny English 2, Escape to Manhattan or something.
I don't know what it's actually.
Reborn.
It's got Reborn.
There we go.
Okay, great.
Anyway, yeah.
Apparently, the director did this as well because he dropped it.
Matthew Vaughn, who dropped out of X-Men Days of Future Past to do this.
Because he said, no one's done a super fun spy movie in a while like this
and I want to be the first to do it.
Okay.
And now that he...
And this is the first one out of the gate
but it's like five coming.
Really?
I can't remember them specifically.
I was just going to ask you...
There's a Melissa McCarthy one coming out.
This is going to spawn a whole bunch of...
Look, I don't...
They're already in the works
and I don't think this has necessarily spawned it.
But you know how Hollywood goes,
oh, this is the thing now
and everybody makes one.
There's a Melissa McCarthy one coming out with Jude Law, which looks fine.
And there's a bunch of other ones.
But this, I reckon, will be the best.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because Matthew Vaughan's a great director.
Correct.
Yeah.
And how are they going to top Girl with Fake Legs and They've Got Knives at the end?
Can't.
Can't do it.
Can't beat that. Nope. Nope. Nope no no yeah do you reckon they'll do the big aspect of the comic is a lot of
celebrities being involved playing themselves do you think they're going to adopt that part of it
well you were because in the opening to the secret service the comic book it's it features uh this
isn't spoiler problem no it's like the first page yeah Yeah. It's a James Bond-esque kind of secret agent.
And that's really good, that bit.
Yeah, who's trying to...
Who's been tasked with rescuing actor Mark Hamill
who's been kidnapped for whatever reasons we discover later.
And he tries to do the classic...
It's up in the Alps and he does the classic
ski off a mountaintop and pull the ripcord
and the Union Jack parachute comes out.
And, of course, it malfunctions and he and Mark Hamill die horrible deaths.
Mark Hamill is in this.
I think we've mentioned.
But he's not playing Mark Hamill.
So I wonder whether the plot will involve.
I think it's going to be scientists.
Yeah, okay.
My guess is because he does look very professorial.
Yes.
In the one second we said. Proficeral. Proficeral. He does look like look very professorial. Yes. In the one second we said.
Proficerol.
Proficerol.
He does look like a profiterol.
Yes.
A pastry covered in chocolate and cream.
Yes.
But he looks, you know, like an academic.
Yeah.
I think it's going to be, and I might get a lot of celebrity cameos,
but I think it might be more like, you know, the villain's plan is this and he needs to rebuild the world.
He needs, you know, X number of scientists and that's going to be them.
Yes, absolutely.
Fantastic.
Yes.
There's some stuff I, they seem to have pitched it more,
it does seem more like, you know, a team of young people, you know,
having to work together.
It does feel a little bit X-Men First Class.
Yeah.
It looks like they're getting a whole bunch of teen characters to kind of bunk together.
Yeah.
And kind of solve problems together kind of thing.
Which wasn't really in the...
What they've gotten rid of, I think, there's a scene, especially in the comic book version,
where all the agents go out and they're all guys.
Yeah.
Where they have to go out and they're all guys yeah i think where
they have to go out and kind of like pick up artists people and it's kind of creepy yeah like
it's one of those things i'm not on mark miller who's the author of that yeah he i'm on board
with about 50 of the stuff he does and i think that's kind of that's kind of weird where it's
like yeah okay we'll do this and we'll get points to get their number and we'll get points for
sleeping with them and blah blah blah, blah. Which is the game.
Yeah, it is the game, exactly.
And I think they've excised a lot of that
and they've replaced it with kind of, you know,
these young people, we're a team,
we're going to work together kind of thing.
And there's also, you know,
female members of the Secret Service and stuff like that.
Yeah, exactly.
Positive steps.
I think it'll be cool.
I think if you give Mark Miller unchecked creative control
at a movie, you get kick-ass too.
Yeah, which he didn't actually direct. Yeah, I know, but still. I think he was on set just like, I give Mark Miller unchecked creative control at a movie, you get kick-ass too. Yeah. Which he didn't actually direct.
Yeah, I know, but still.
I think he was on set just like, I'm Mark Miller.
Well, he runs the X-Men Fox universe now.
He's in charge of all that.
Mark Miller.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Even though he wrote Civil War, which is becoming a Marvel movie.
Hmm.
It's all right, whatever.
Okay, cool.
Because I feel like, you feel like Marvel had kind of
Kevin Feige
who has a good handle
on this thing
and Fox needed
somebody like that
who could keep
everything in check
and know the characters.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think that's
why they brought him on.
Interesting.
So 50% of the movies
will be good.
Great.
If you're anything to go by.
I am.
All right.
These are in no particular order.
I'm just doing whatever.
Okay, sure.
Jurassic World.
Hang on.
Do we need to know
any more about Kingsman? Well, we're 40 minutes in. Oh are in no particular order. I'm just doing whatever. Okay, sure. Jurassic World. Hang on. Do we need to know any more about Kingsman?
Well, we're 40 minutes in.
Oh, then no.
Jurassic World?
Yes.
Looks great.
Yep.
Chris Pratt is great.
He is, isn't he?
I'm not...
Are you anticipating this?
Yeah, sure.
I mean...
Yeah, I guess. if it was 10 years where did you put it in your most anticipated movie i was at five but then i bumped it out
oh really yeah okay for something else because i'm not anticipating it so much no look i i will
see it yeah it looks pretty cool i like everybody in it yep i like the return to the original island
i like that they're doing genetic more genetic island. I like that they're doing more genetic
tampering and I want
to see what this new
dinosaur can do.
I like that it looks
like they're bringing
back the old T-Rex.
Yep.
I like Chris Pat.
Sure.
I like Bryce Dallas
Howard.
You like motorcycles.
I like motorcycles.
You like safari shirts.
I do.
Vests.
You like a big pair
of slacks.
Yep.
You like a red bandana.
I like some kind of
gun with a big scope
on it.
You like a safari hat. I do. I like all those things. You like Newman from Seinfeld. I like some kind of gun with a big scope on it. You like a safari hat.
I do.
I like all those things.
You like Newman from Seinfeld.
I do.
Big spat on.
Yeah.
You like a computer system that goes, ah, ah, ah.
Samuel L. Jackson's really good in Jurassic Park, isn't he?
I have no memory of him in Jurassic Park.
He's the other computer guy who hates Dennis Nedry.
Don't remember him.
He's really good.
Is he?
Yeah, he's really good. Huh. he's really good yeah he looks completely normal though like you know he looks
like samuel jackson now yeah he looks just like a guy does he have hair no but he's kind of thinning
so he's got kind of a bald patch in that so see that was 50 50 there i was considering just going
along with what you said there yeah you're gonna be like hey samuel jackson was good in jurassic
park and i would have gone like yeah sure and then you would be like he's not in it psyched right so i just i was just honest
there yeah good yeah good for you yeah i think pulp fiction was the point where people like oh
my god this guy's amazing let's put him in everything right and that was the year after
sure yeah so yeah not again but he is amazing yeah because yeah. Because, yeah, I'm not... Yeah, I'll see it, but I don't...
I question how much more we can get out of this.
One movie.
Yeah, but there's not going to be any...
There's not going to be anything innovative in this movie, I don't think.
I think aside from that dinosaur.
Yeah, exactly.
I think the big kind of theme of this is that
people are going to see the most amazing place in the world.
Right.
And everyone's just on their phones.
Oh, I see.
So I think that's the kind of...
It's a Black Mirror-esque twist.
Yes, but not as dark.
Have you read?
There's an article, speaking of...
There's an article on The Toast, which is like a satirical...
It's like a bread.
I don't know what it is.
Yeah, you know what Toast is.
It's bread, but better.
You know what I mean?
It's like a satirical website.
It's just different articles and stuff like this.
This one by Mallory Ortberg. It's called Next satirical website And it's just different articles and stuff like this This one by Mallory Ortberg
It's called Next on Black Mirror
And it includes
Okay here we go
Here's a sample
Yeah
Okay
The old straight track
A woman drives a sinister car down a sinister road
She is texting
She is in the hospital after being struck by a driver who is texting
The first half of the episode is only a dream
Her physician blocks her on Facebook
after having an argument with his son,
which kills her in real life.
She goes to hell.
In hell, she is forced to derive erotic punishments
for other women who have texted while driving.
Pretty good, right?
Et cetera, et cetera.
Raise high the red string.
What if phones, but too much?
Anyway, track that down on the-toast.net
That's good stuff
What were we talking about
That's really good
Jurassic World
Oh yeah
Watch Black Mirror guys
Yeah
Yeah okay
They're all in their phones
Okay that's great
That's not gonna sustain
A film though
What
People will look at
The phones
No but they'll do that
And then there'll be
Dinosaurs Oh there'll be dinosaurs And one said the dinosaurs surrounding them okay right because
yeah it finds all right fine and yeah look it'll be fine yep agreed moving on tomorrow land you
know much about that one no they got brad bird who directed uh incredibles and the last voice
the the weird taylor lady he did and the uh iron giant which is amazing um and the last voice the the weird Taylor lady he did and he uh Iron Giant which
is amazing um and the last Mission Impossible which is the best Mission Impossible yeah yeah
definitely one was one is good but it's good it's very slow and it's kind of dated it's very dated
yeah two is just guys pulling masks off yeah it's a lot of two hours
it's a lot of it's a lot of guys spinning one wheeled on motorcycles while firing guns and
pulling masks off yeah and there's a lot of slow motion dubs it's like that was that was the low
point for john woo yes they were like what does john woo do yeah we need him to be his most john
wooyest in this film so there was so much slow-mo and just...
But it was John Woo, but it was the most John Woo,
but like a really sanitized John Woo.
It was crap.
Like crap action.
Yeah.
Have you seen The Killer?
No.
It's a John Woo film.
It's super brutal and it's one of those movies.
It's the origins of like the...
Is that the one with the one take where they go through the hospital?
Maybe.
I think it's something else.
The origin of the two-gun dive shoot.
Yeah, two-gun dive shoot, exactly.
And there's, you know, he'll just point blank, you know,
shoot a guy 10 times in the chest kind of thing.
Yeah.
That kind of brutality.
And I think they were like, we love everything you do, John Woo,
but don't do it as well kind of thing.
And it's just, yeah, there's so many doves.
Yeah.
I think the way that they do these is they get a different director
with a different vision for each one.
Right.
And that makes them very distinct films.
And see what happens, yeah.
And see what happens.
And four was the kind of the combination of all the best elements of that.
And three was...
Three was the J.J. Abrams one, which is actually pretty good as well.
Yeah, which is actually a pretty good one.
Had Felicity in it.
Yes, it did. Yes, it did.
Yes, it did.
So four had all the best elements,
like, you know,
the kind of espionage of the first one.
Yeah, and kind of fun,
slightly over-the-top gadgets kind of thing.
Exactly.
Had Tom Cruise's best hair from his...
His best running, probably.
He did have his best hair,
best running.
He had his best hair in two and four.
Yeah, that's true, yeah.
Yeah, so it borrowed the best elements of two.
But, yeah, I'm looking for... Oh, there's also another Mission Impossible. We in 2 and 4. Yeah, that's true. So it borrowed the best elements of 2. Yeah, I'm looking for...
Oh, there's also another Mission Impossible. We can talk about that.
That'll be good. It's the guy who did
the one where...
What is he?
The last generic kind of Tom Cruise
movie he did. His name's like Jake
Action.
It's not called that. Jack Reacher.
Which is not a good name for a hero no well it's one of
those kind of tom clancy-esque generic everyman hero kind of yeah yeah and in the books he's like
he's six six yeah exactly and he eats like potatoes he's a steak and eggs man yeah and he
can like pick up a man with one hand and break his neck and stuff yeah exactly yeah and he's like he lives on the road
and he solves crime
and that's the one
yeah
he's just the best
but he doesn't speak
with his words
he speaks with his
breaking necks
and his heart
and he's eating breakfast
yeah
where were we just then
what happened before
Mission Impossible
Tomorrowland
oh yeah that one
Brad Bird is directing
Tomorrowland
and it's his own project
and apparently he turned down
the chance
and this is live action not animated this is live apparently he turned down the chance and this is live action
not animated
this is live action
he turned down the chance
to direct Star Wars
to do this
he was in the running
he was asked
it is a Disney project
that sounds
this sounds like a mistake
I don't know man
I think this guy's
got a good track record
Clooney's in it
okay
it's basically this guy
it sounds a little
sky captain
in the world of Tomorrow
it doesn't look like that
at all
really
so there's clips of this there's a trailer of it but it's basically it's the girl from Under the Dome wait It sounds a little Sky Captain in the World of Tomorrow. It doesn't look like that at all. Really? Yeah.
So there's clips of this?
There's a trailer of it, yeah.
But it's basically, it's a girl from under the dome.
Wait.
Sure.
She's out of the dome.
She's out of the dome.
She's ready to rumble.
And it's like this kind of shitty kind of near future kind of heavy pollution society
where everything's grim and whatever.
And she finds, the trailer is she finds this kind of pin and it's like a Tomorrowland
pin and she touches it
and she's instantly transported to another world.
Not like sucked through a thing,
like she touches it and it's blinked and she's there.
Right, okay.
And then she lets go and she's back.
Right, right.
And it's kind of like this,
it looks like this Wizard of Oz-esque kind of world.
Right, interesting.
And I don't really know anything about it beyond that
and I don't really want to know.
Yeah.
And I think,
I'll also put that in my top five
because I think I'd trust the director. Okay, sure. And I want... I'll also put that in my top five because I think I'd trust the director.
Okay, sure.
And I want...
It's new and that's good.
We should be encouraging it.
I just feel like...
Sky Captain.
Not even that, but I...
You just want a sequel.
Yeah, I really do.
Oh, what happened to those rocket ships?
Where did they...
I can't remember the plot of that.
Angelina Jolie.
They dragged Orson Welles' corpse back from the dead remember wasn't
awesome wells remember they had they doesn't matter all right they own his rights basically
great someone owns his rights i i kind of feel like it i'm sure it'll be good but it just seems
like it feels like a bad move like when you hear like turn down star wars to do his own project yeah
that feels strongly like in 10 years he will regret that for whatever like it just feels like
a bar like a like a bar if when they're doing the biography pic of brad bird they'll be like
brad bird was flying high but then it all came crashing down but if you look at the things that
he's done yeah he's very much...
Iron Giant is based on a book,
but he made that his own.
Incredibles, again, is his own.
I'm sure he didn't write the script.
Maybe he did.
I don't know.
He probably did.
And Mission Impossible,
he made the best Mission Impossible.
Yeah, true.
Why wouldn't this...
I think this is more likely to be good than bad.
Yeah, you're right.
And I hope it's good.
If it was J.J. Abrams doing this,
I'd say that dude does not have an original bone in his body. Sure. As much And I hope it's good. Yeah, yeah. If it was, you know, if it was J.J. Abrams doing this, I'd say that dude does not have
an original bone in his body.
Sure.
As much as I think he's a decent director, but he's not, that's not true.
He does, he can do original things, but yeah, Brad Bird is, I think he's something else.
I think he's next level.
Oh.
Like you.
Yeah, thank you.
I'm the Brad Bird of this podcast. Yes. I'm the J.J. Abrams. Oh. Like you. Yeah, thank you. I'm the Brad Bird of this podcast.
Yes.
I'm the JJ Abrams.
You're so lens flaring.
Do you want to name one or just pick any?
Look, I haven't done any research.
I'll be honest with you.
I've just got to kind of wrap this up.
Keep going.
All right.
What about Chappie?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Neil Blomkamp.
Yeah.
So that's his... Does Neil Blomkamp yeah so that's his does
does Neil Blomkamp
only have one idea
it's Blomkamp
by the way everybody
just
whatever
yeah he's got one idea
future robots
in South Africa
yes
yeah
and it's sort of
aliens or whatever
I don't know
South Africa
and it's
this is
weird cut
there's two artificial intelligence movies
coming out this year
at least two, right?
There is Ex Machina.
Yeah.
Which looks...
Machina, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which looks incredible.
And this, yeah.
Yeah.
If Elysium was better, I'd be more excited for this.
Right.
Elysium was fine.
Yeah.
But it was a little bit disappointing, wasn't it?
And so, and this is...
So Chappie is a artificially intelligent
android
that he's
discovered
or who builds him?
Dev Patel
the guy from
Slumdog Millionaire
the guy from
sorry The Last Airbender
sure
better
better
yeah he builds this
basically
it's short circuit
in South Africa
sure yeah
so
yeah
it looks good
the effects look good
Hugh Jackman's the bad guy yeah wow chateau coppoli is the
chappy oh okay i believe there's kind of undercurrent kind of racism kind of things
oh unlike his other movies sure yeah my one idea what do you mean by that do you mean like
the the the the division between rich and poor and class war and that kind of stuff.
Yeah, and it's...
And it's South Africa and...
South Africa and everything's got that dirty look to it kind of thing, yeah.
It's interesting also that Hugh Jackman has switched sides on the robots.
And the mullet.
I mean, real steel, he was totally on board with the robots and now...
Yeah.
Those are robots he could keep in check.
I guess that's true, yeah.
These ones.
He's just after robot safety.
Yeah, that's right.
He's the robot safety inspector.
Correct, yeah.
So Shilto is the...
Is the robot.
Have we seen photos of him in a ping pong ball suit?
No, we haven't.
I haven't even seen photos of him in the...
You know, from Mystic Nine in the ping pong thing.
Though he's not the alien for very long, is he?
No, that's true.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to it.
What do we see in the trailer?
Do we see any exciting action kind of thing?
I think Hugh Jackman builds a police force,
but the government don't want it because it's too big and clunky
and Ed 209 kind of thing.
Yep.
And the other kid is Dave Patel designs this robot
which can think independently and is creative and can paint
and can love and can dress up as a gang member and do a weird rap.
Sure.
That happened in Short Circuit too, didn't it?
Yes.
Remember Los Locos?
No, I don't.
I'm going to play the clip.
Okay, great.
Use me for living.
Los Locos kick your ass.
Los Locos kick your face.
Los Locos kick your balls into outer space.
Oh, yeah, good.
Taking me right back.
Yeah.
But what was I saying?
That clip that I played and we watched then, it's distracted me.
Sharlto Copley.
Yes.
Chappie.
Chappie.
Yeah. And basically, so then they employ Hugh Jackman to kind of stop this.
So he's kind of like the Sharlau Copley from the last movie.
Sure.
Who was employed to stop things.
Sure.
You know what I loved about that movie as well?
The Elysium.
He's got no middle ground in that.
He's just, he goes from being real calm and crazy to just flat out crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you remember the bit where he's kind of cooking meat on that weird grill?
Uh-huh.
And he's just like, no, no, no.
And he's firing a gun into the air and whatever
and drinking beer like a lunatic.
And then Jodie Foster calls him like, you're fired.
And he goes, ah!
And he flips the barbecue.
And those are his two kind of-
Oh, yeah.
That's pretty good.
Two levels.
He survives a lot of stabbings in that movie, doesn't he?
He does, doesn't he?
Yeah, his face explodes.
Oh, that's what I'm thinking of.
Yeah. He gets hand-grenaded, but then he's fine. Yeah doesn't he? Yeah, his face explodes. Oh, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah.
He gets hand-grenaded,
but then he's fine.
Yeah.
His face gets rebuilt.
They rebuild it, yeah.
It's pretty good.
That's pretty messed up.
Okay, so Blomkamp
does have some fun concepts.
Definitely.
I just think that movie was...
Great.
Whatever.
Great world-building.
Yeah.
Well, let's talk about Ex Machina.
Okay.
Can you agree with that?
So it's a...
The premise of this one is someone wins a competition to go to the island of like a
Steve Jobs-esque super genius man.
Yeah.
And it turns out he's become part of an experiment.
Yes.
Where he meets this artificially intelligent robot woman.
And he takes part in the Turing test.
Right.
Okay, yeah.
Which is basically you...
It's to determine whether an ai this is roughly and i'm
this is probably wrong has has as consciousness and right can think independently and and whatever
but and in speaking to a computer would you would you can you tell the difference between
yes speaking to a computer or speaking to a human being but the difference with this is with those
tests normally it's done maybe through a chat or whatever that's how they kind of do them now but in this he meets this robot woman
who has the face of a human woman not like torn off and sure just like yeah you know what i mean
like he has a she has a face that looks human but the rest of her is clearly robotic and you can see
through her so the test is kind of like you know she's robotic but does that can you still kind of
have you know can you interact with this person like you would a normal right right person a robot
like you like yeah and it looks amazing looks incredible very tense i'm very excited to again
it's one of those movies where i don't want to see any more yeah trailers because it'll turn out
the guy who goes there is a robot oh it could be but i think it's
smarter than that though yeah as well or yeah we'll see apparently it's very good also and it's
a guy who wrote 28 weeks later like i think it's his first big film director okay but yeah it's
funny though two two star wars guys in it oscar isaacss in Star Wars. The guy from About Time, whose name escapes me.
Donald Gleeson.
Yeah, okay.
That is interesting.
I don't know.
I just think it's going to be...
Apparently, it's very good.
It's out very soon, and I'm really excited for it.
I think it does look...
You're right.
It does look sort of first film-y in that it seems to be on quite a small scale.
Yeah.
It doesn't seem to take place over...
It takes place on an island, but not...
Yeah, yeah. We don't see a lot of locations, which is probably good. Locales. Locales. Yeah. It doesn't seem to take place over... It takes place on an island, but not... Yeah, yeah.
We don't see a lot of locations, which is probably good, you know.
Locales.
Locales.
Yeah.
Correct.
Any thoughts on it?
Other than those thoughts you had?
Just those thoughts.
Okay, good.
Moving on?
Yes.
On to Rush!
Oh, really?
Oh, that's coming back.
I saw the trailer for that.
You and it.
Most anticipated.
It'll be... It's most anticipated by millions of people.
Definitely.
It's like the Sex and the City movie.
Now, I've seen the trailer, but I completely blank.
What happens in it?
Ari's in it.
Have you seen the show?
Like one episode.
That happens.
Great.
But over a slightly longer time frame.
Yes.
Great.
The series ended with Vince got married.
Oh, yeah.
And he probably got to do the
movie oh i definitely would have got to do the movie yeah and you know the trailer is in the
style from the guys who brought you aquaman yeah guys who brought you medellin or whatever in the
poster it's a it's a nice little nod in it because you know famously well i guess famously in the
entourage tv show when aquaman was a kind of nothing character,
Vinny Chase in this movie played Aquaman,
or Aquaman, wherever you say it from,
as directed by James Cameron.
Right.
And in the Entourage poster, you see in the background, there's an Aquaman logo,
and over the top of it is a Wonder Woman logo.
Oh, I see, right.
So it's like a time-up kind of situation.
Okay, that's fine.
So, yeah. That guy would be a terrible Aqu logo. Oh, I see. So it's like a time-up kind of situation. Okay, that's fine. So, yeah.
That guy would be a terrible icon.
Absolutely.
He's a charisma vacuum, that guy.
Yes, he is.
He's no...
That's...
Surely, I guess the idea is like,
if you watch that show,
maybe you put yourself in the place of him.
I don't think that was the idea.
No, because he's such a blank canvas that you could be like, yeah, I could be that guy.
That's why Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men always wore bowling shirts and cargo shorts.
Like us.
Yeah, like a schlubby guy.
Like, yeah, we could totally be that guy.
Entourage movie.
What's happening?
Turtle got real thin, right?
Turtle got real thin.
Yep.
Vince married a girl at the end of it.
Yep.
He married, or he was going to marry, you know the girl from Star Trek, Alice Eve?
Yep.
Star Trek Into Darkness.
Yeah.
I've blown one.
And that's how it kind of ended.
So we'd assume that he's divorced now.
I'd imagine so.
And he's back on back on the cruising
for the tail yeah and ari's running a studio now oh that's great he can get him to do oh there's
a fake trailer in it the fake trailer is he's a dj slash assassin or something uh-huh and it's
his own movie that he's directed right and it looks the worst and maybe it's supposed to be but
yeah does entourage have that layer of irony to it?
Or do you think people are supposed to see that and go, that looks awesome?
I don't know.
I can't tell, to be honest.
I think people just like the agent being racist and homophobic to the Asian guy.
That's what I think people like.
Just shouting homophobic slurs at him like that's
what people like i guess they do yeah yeah do you think there'll be any dirt bikes in this movie
oh man i hope so they go to a dirt bike shop and everybody only gives them free dirt bikes
that's the episode you saw was it where they got free motorbikes for no reason yeah i remember yeah
it was pretty good all right let's talk about Fantastic Four then.
Trailer's out this week, apparently.
Oh, finally.
The white whale of trailers.
The white whale of trailers.
So this is genuinely, I'm excited to see this trailer.
I know, right?
Because I've seen literally nothing of this.
Didn't you see that Doom set photo?
That leaked set photo?
No.
It's Doom and he looks like he's covered in melted garbage bags.
Oh, yeah, I did see that.
Okay, yeah, it doesn't look...
I mean, that's not representative of how this will look, I'm sure.
It seems like they're buying more...
Just piles of garbage bags.
It seems like they're buying more from the Ultimate Comics,
the origin.
Rather, they get their powers from an alternate dimension.
Yeah, why not?
And Doom's a hacker.
Oh, yeah, all right.
And whatever.
So, I think...
I've said this before.
I don't think people will be happy with it as a Fantastic Four movie.
Sure.
But I think there's a chance it could be a good movie on its own.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to be interesting, though.
Yeah.
I mean, it's...
It is interesting.
Why...
Why not try an original concept then?
Like Chronicle or something like that.
Yeah, sure.
Which is the same director.
Yeah.
Why not?
Like if they're changing so many elements
and the origins of the powers are different
and the blah, blah, blah
and the bad guy's different in a lot of ways
and et cetera,
I guess you'd have to come up with
original looks and names
for various characters.
Apparently, the director of this,
well, sorry, Max Landis, who wrote Chronicle,
wrote a script for Chronicle 2,
which takes it in a completely different direction,
which is amazing.
Yes.
Apparently.
I mean, who knows?
Was this according to Max Landis?
Writer of it?
I think it might have been his dad, even.
Huh.
John Landis. Sure. Famous guy. Yeah it might have been his dad even. John Landis.
Sure.
Famous guy.
Yeah.
He wrote Short Circuit too.
No, he didn't.
He might have.
Might have.
Sure.
According to him.
Yeah.
But they just said, no, we just want to make Chronicle again.
Sure.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
It worked the first time.
Which was sad because they took a punt on Chronicle and somehow it worked
a fan footage superhero movie
why wouldn't you
then take another
of course you wouldn't
no exactly yeah
so we're getting
Fantastic Four reboots
great
fine whatever
we'll talk about that
next week though
won't we
yes if it's coming out
this coming week
the trailer I mean
yeah no I will
I will talk about the trailer
like I could pick that
apart for two hours I'm sure god whether it looks if it looks, I will talk about the trailer. I could pick that apart for two hours, I'm sure.
God, if it looks amazing, I can talk about it for an hour.
If it looks like garbage, I can talk about it for an hour.
Absolutely.
Speaking of things that could be amazing or garbage, Terminator Genesys.
I'm looking forward to this.
Me too.
On the list, this is probably my number one.
Unless you say more things after this.
Shutting the fridge door, Mason.
That's right.
That's the expression.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Explain yourself.
Because it's got the weird bit in the trailer where 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger fights old Arnold Schwarzenegger.
How amazing is that going to look?
How long do you think that scene's going to be?
Very short.
Yeah.
I reckon what's going to happen, he'll shoot his face off and then he'll fight
a body double
yeah definitely
yeah
um
what if they get
what if they de-age
Bill Paxton
as one of the
thugs
because he was one of the
thugs originally
no because I think
if they do
I'd imagine they'd just
use original footage
but I think
he's gonna
he'll stop
because that takes place
on the roof yep and
then the terminator goes down off the roof and runs into the punks and is like give me your clothes
man yeah in that terminator fashion sure and i think maybe the old terminator might go past and
be like go home and be nice to your mother or something i think that will be the interaction
yeah yeah look i can't i'm i'm excited for this because i like the idea that
they haven't really explained it well in the movies but i like the idea that it's kind of
that it's this ongoing time war yeah and if you're going back why if you're going back to
specific if you're going back to the 80s and if you're going back to the 90s and you're going
back to the early 2000s or whatever why wouldn wouldn't you then send more Terminators back and more Resistance fighters to stop them?
Yeah.
Like, why, you know?
Yeah.
I like the fact that it's going to get real complicated.
I don't know why.
Because it's a, you know...
Well, this is supposed to be a clean slate, Phil.
But you're right, it just complicates it.
And I don't know.
Because the Terminator movies have never made any promises to make any sense, like, time-wise. No. So I think I'm like And I don't know, because the Terminator movies have never made any promises to make any sense,
like time-wise.
No.
So I think I'm like, I don't...
Because I'm normally a stickler for logic in time travel movies, but for whatever reason,
I can just switch the brain off and be like...
Do you think it's because it's from your childhood?
Yeah, maybe.
Because I know you don't like Looper.
Correct.
And we won't get into it.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
Look, do you think there's also
there's a chance that this will overlap with terminator one we know that do you think it's
going to bleed into terminator i hope so i hadn't even thought about it till just this second but
yes i hope so as well yeah yeah and i hope it makes people real mad because they'll be like
you can't no terminator 2's perfect film but you you can't change it. They're not. It's still there.
Terminator 2's still there.
You can... Yeah.
You can still watch that.
Still watch that, yeah.
You can still watch the extended edition with all the extra scenes.
They're not actually changing the timeline so the film Terminator 2 was not released.
They're just changing it in the context of...
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a sequel.
It's a sequel.
Correct.
Yeah, I'm also looking forward to it good
or bad yeah what else happens in the trailer anything else which has that scene at the start
where they send the terminator back in time and kyle reese yeah yeah and that was promised to be
that was the original opening scene of the terminator too yeah so they finally got around
to doing that yeah which is really cool i don't know i just something about it that i it looks
good but it could be it's it could easily be a train wreck.
And that's fascinating.
Yeah, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What else happens in that trailer?
Yeah, there's the Team 1000.
He's Mac.
Oh, yeah.
He's an Asian man.
That's correct, yeah.
That effect doesn't look as good somehow.
Yeah, it's weird, right?
We did an episode.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We talked about it in an episode.
Do you think that if this is successful, will they do another Terminator movie?
Yes, I think that's a plan.
New trilogy.
But also, this...
You know what?
It probably will overlap with 2 because this jumps to the present day.
Yeah.
Remember you see Arnold and he's old?
And he bloody swan dived through a helicopter or something.
That's right, yeah.
Good.
Good.
Next one?
Yeah.
Let's talk about Furious 7. Okay okay i should really get around to one of
these watching one at some point watch five and six okay i've told you before they're really fun
okay now what happens in the trailer for seven is bruce willis in this one now you're thinking
of gi joe retaliation i'm thinking of gi joe retaliation and expendables whatever three two
i think one and two he's not in three. Yes, you are thinking of those things.
It looks...
There's this kind of a CGI car stuff.
There's a heist thing?
Yeah, there's a heist thing.
People are shooting grappling hooks into stuff, right?
That's exciting.
And there's a bit where Paul Walker runs up the...
The bit that looks fake is when he runs up the truck and then he leaps and then...
Okay, right.
The car, and then he leaps on the back of the car, which is whatever.
But these movies have just become so ridiculous.
Sure.
But in the... it's hard.
I don't know how they've managed to go from,
it was sort of semi-serious to just like, this is just nonsense.
And everyone's like, yes, great.
They've managed to somehow do that.
Because the early ones were for fans of cars, right?
The first one in particular,
the second one was a lot of CGI cars jumping other CGI cars.
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
I haven't actually seen, I can't even remember if I've seen it. The third one was a lot of CGI cars jumping other CGI cars. Yeah, I remember that, yeah. I haven't actually seen...
I can't even remember if I've seen it.
The third one was...
About drifting.
In Tokyo's.
Sure.
And the fourth one was then Paul Walker, Vin Diesel return.
Right, right, right.
Do you know Vin Diesel actually did a cameo in Tokyo Drift
under the proviso that he gets the rights to Riddick, I think?
Wow, that's a good deal.
Yeah.
Huh.
Because everybody sees those Riddick movies don't they
they really do
yeah
I like those movies
though
yeah me too
the last one was
super overlong
but still pretty good
yeah I thought it
was better than
Chronicles of Riddick
yeah
and Chronicles of
Narnia
sure
let's drink some
water
anything else
about that
no it'll be interesting to see how how that paul walker
looks in it and how much they shot and how that goes yeah and and how um what how they go on
without him afterwards yeah are they i think they're gonna die in the film i don't think
they're just gonna happy ending him really not in the weird way sure you got it yeah but um yeah i think that's the idea
but i think also there's enough star power in those movies that you could continue without him
yeah definitely there were definitely an element missing a bit of that but they become less and
less about paul walker and vin diesel and more about it everybody's flipping over it's the ocean's
level with cars basically yeah what about why don't we talk about
Age of Ultron
okay sure
that's going to be
a good one isn't it
I hope so
me too
we saw the second trailer
we talked about it last week
yep
I don't know if
we've talked about this so much
I know right
very much looking forward to it
Hulkbuster
yep
Black Widow
Hawkman
Hawkface
Hawkface
sorry
got his little coat on.
Yeah.
All that.
It looks great.
Darker tone, you think?
Uh, no, I'm going to say exactly the same tone as Avengers 1.
Okay, fair enough.
Yeah.
But people say Empire Strikes Back of Avengers, whatever.
Who said that?
Every person.
That's just a guess, though.
I think Whedon's definitely alluded to it being a darker movie.
But then again, sometimes these Marvel movies have dark trailers
and then a lot of times they end up being happy films.
Yeah.
Like, I know Thor The Dark World was a relatively dark trailer.
Iron Man 3, initially, those trailers were very sad.
Ant-Man, which is supposed to be much funnier than what we've been shown,
is a very kind of somber trailer. very sad and man which is supposed to be much funnier than what we've been shown right exactly
kind of somber trailer so i think there'll be elements of niceness to what if this what if this
is the twist though because the i some of that ultron trailer is quite light-hearted you know
we're all trying to lift the thor's hammer etc maybe that's that maybe we're like oh this is
kind of a wacky yeah this film's got some wacky subtext to it and then... And then bang. Super dark.
I would like that a lot.
I think that would be really cool.
And I think this is going to split up all the Avengers at the end.
I think by the end of it, and I've still got a video on this, so I'm not going to spoil
it if this happens, but I think they're all going to be split.
And I think by the end, we're not going to have Hulk and we're not going to have Thor.
Because if they're doing Civil War next, you can't have them on either team.
That's true, because they're game breakers.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're right. Okay.
So maybe
Thor ends up in space.
Thor ends up in hell. Yeah.
I've talked about it. I'm not going to go into
that before. Okay.
So that would be cool. Or not.
Sure. What are you more looking forward to?
Age of Ultron or Civil War?
That is a good question.
Age of Ultron or Civil War? That is a good question. Age of Ultron.
Okay, cool.
There you go.
There you go.
Mad Max?
Mad Max Fury Road, yep.
Pretty good.
Pretty crazy.
It's pretty crazy, yeah.
It's definitely very crazy.
I feel like a lot of the time when directors go back to re...
Because George Miller directed all three Mad Max movies.
A lot of time when directors go back to a franchise, they don't pull it off.
Ridley Scott for Prometheus.
Yep.
George Lucas for whatever.
Yeah.
Steven Spielberg, Indiana Jones, whatever.
But I feel like this looks like it's as good.
They've gone all out on this one.
Yeah.
Like he's gone out there and these are stunts and proper stunts
and lots of dust kicking up.
Have we seen a lot of stunts in these trailers?
What have we actually seen?
It looks like a lot of actual car flips and stuff.
I feel like we've got a lot of these wacky kind of post-apocalyptic cars
driving around and we've got like the follow car with the camera on it
just zipping around and we've got a lot of that movement yeah have we seen a
lot of stunt yet though maybe not so much yeah maybe you're right we haven't seen a lot of stunt
we haven't seen a lot of action no like we've seen a lot of mad max being dragged around by bad guys
and stuff like that we haven't actually seen any like firefights or anything like that yeah but i
think we i think we will and we certainly haven't heard the new Tina Turner single.
No.
There's a local, like, classic hit station.
Yeah.
And now We Don't Need Another Hero is on high rotation,
so every time I flick it on, flick the radio station on, it's on.
And I didn't know until just recently that she's had to shoehorn in,
like, a Thunderdome reference.
Yeah.
Like, she has to sneak it in under the chorus,
which is pretty good.
I feel like now you don't have to do that movie kind of theme songs anymore.
It just has to get the general tone, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Like the James Bond themes don't specifically say,
James Bond is a real...
But although...
Especially all the early James Bond films,
they didn't have it like...
Like, From Russia With Love doesn't have any...
There's no James Bond in it.
You're right.
It's about a guy who leaves the girl he loves
and then he comes back because he realizes he loves her.
Like, it's got nothing to do with James Bond.
Yeah.
Or maybe it's got everything to do with James Bond.
Oh, you're right.
Doesn't.
Nah.
Great.
Anyway, Mad Max looks good.
What about...
And this is an actual sequel.
Yeah, it's an actual sequel.
I think, yeah.
Yeah, it seems like it is.
What about Spectre?
We're talking James Bond.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
We don't know,
we haven't seen anything of it officially,
but we know who the cast is.
We know that there's probably
villains and whatever.
There's a big lumbering
yep
played by Dave Bautista
from Guardians of the Galaxy
and Wrestling Fames
and Wrestling Fames
and I think he'll have
something in his face
hopefully
sure yeah
reckon he will
probably won't
I don't do that anymore
I don't think he'll have
anything in his face
because then there'll be
too many Jaws comparisons
if he's got anything
in his face
maybe
claw hands maybe claw hands
this one claw hand like clamps from futurama yeah yeah i you know what i reckon one glove
one black glove he takes the glove off he's got like a weird crushy hand that would be great
crushy hand you know what i watched the other day what's your what deformity do you think he'll have
i'm gonna go pick one i'm gonna go with he can change his hand for different hands.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
I only said that.
He's not going to have anything.
Right.
I think he'll just be a big guy.
I think he's just going to have his, I reckon he's genuinely going to have a crushy hand.
That would be great.
Yeah.
Because Inner Space was on the other night, which by the way is amazing.
You seen Inner Space lately?
Not recently.
It's really good.
But it's, 80's good.
Yeah.
I mean, it's Dennis Quaid, Meg Ryan.
It's really cool.. But 80's good. Yeah. Dennis Quaid, Meg Ryan, it's really cool.
That is 80's good.
The villain in it takes his head off and swaps it for like a gun hand.
Oh, yeah, sure.
It's pretty good.
But yeah, Spectre.
Skyfall was pretty good.
It had a lot of weird plot holes.
Yes, it sure did.
It had a lot of like aping the Dark Knight kind of plot holes,
but made no sense.
Villain gets captured for no reason.
Yep.
It was part of his plan all along.
Or was it?
Yes.
That's what the Bond movies do, though.
They ape whatever's popular.
Whatever's popular at the time, yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
But Daniel Craig's a good Bond,
and it's got a great cast.
Sam Mendes is back, you know, from Skyfall.
Did we have the conversation?
I re-watched uh skyfall
recently yeah and it does look really good like it looks amazing definitely and it's it's an easy
watch yeah it's very entertaining it's very entertaining there's a we might we must i think
we this is probably just a repeat week where we just yeah but there you know there's that scene
there's a motorcycle chase right at the start and and it looks like a Bond, like a classic Bond action sequence,
but it doesn't look like silly or kind of like...
Slow.
Silly and slow.
Like, it looks like an amazing action sequence
that's kind of like in this heightened reality
where people can drive motorcycles over the, you know,
top roofs of buildings and stuff like that.
Tear off a train carriage.
Tear off a train carriage, exactly.
That's cool.
It's probably one of the best Bond openings.
Yeah.
But again, that movie isn't...
I don't consider that a great movie.
One, because of the incredibly convoluted plot,
which essentially ends with the bad guy
dressing in a police uniform
and then walking into Parliament
and shooting indiscriminately.
Like, he's had 15 years to come up with a plan and that's what he's got uh and also because
bonds got really teeny tiny skinny suits he looks ridiculous he's too big for a teeny tiny
because i i read this recently like the you know how in a in a movie like they'll have like
all the characters will have like 10 identical changes of clothing because they get ruined in stance or whatever.
Like he had like 10,
he'd have like 10 size large jackets.
Yeah.
For moving around.
Yeah.
And 10 size medium jackets for when he's just standing.
Because he physically could,
like if you tried to get him,
like if he puts on this,
the medium overcoat and he tries to run,
it would just tear.
Yeah.
Just tear to shreds because it's too skinny, right?
So that's odd yeah that is
yeah
his clothes are getting tighter
aren't they
getting weirdly tighter
or he's getting bigger
I don't know
yeah it's probably
a combination of the two
well he's not tall
he's more kind of stout
yeah
like a little teapot
like a teapot
so I guess it's harder
to fit a man like that
in a skinny suit
in a skinny
which is the fashion
though now.
The thing about Bond is
you should do a Bond episode.
People keep telling us to do a Bond episode.
We'll do it when Spectre comes out.
It's like eight episodes though.
Yeah, it is. It's true.
Bond in the original novels
isn't so much fashionably dressed.
He's just inconspicuously dressed like he
wears a suit and tie because all the everybody was he's wearing a suit and tie and he's a
businessman and that's his cover he doesn't stand out yeah and he wears it you know he wears a
tuxedo because when he went out in the evening in the 50s or whatever yeah and he went to a casino
which was an actual classy location you'd wear a tuxedo you just wear a hawaiian shirt yeah they
just wear a hawaiian shirt and cargo shorts yeah um but you know so but what has happened is you know the world has
gotten some more casual kind of thing but bond hasn't yeah so now he's just like he's in the
snow wearing a three-piece suit and you know whatever and so but so that's why i really like
casino real from that aspect because he just he just wore whatever whatever was appropriate at the time
you're absolutely right he was absolutely right yeah and but in this in skyfall he's like well
i've got to wear the skinniest kind of most fashionable outfit bond it when you see him
on mission in um in the in casino royale and he's an african nation yeah he's wearing like
just a ruffled up kind of shirt and something you can move in and fight in. And the start of Skyfall, he's in full suit.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's very interesting.
Good point, Mason.
It's not interesting to anyone else, but I find it interesting.
I also find it somewhat interesting.
Two out of two.
One and a half out of two.
I'll take it.
I guess we've got to talk about Star Wars, don't we?
Yeah.
Hang on.
Do we have any more thoughts about Spectre?
Probably not.
We're at like two hours.
No, an hour and twenty. I've been around an hour and twenty. Okay. How many more movies do were? Probably not. We're at like two hours. No, an hour 20.
I've been around an hour 20.
Okay.
How many more movies do we have left?
Two.
Okay.
Star Wars.
Yes.
Great.
Great.
I'm really looking forward to the spinoffs though.
If this is a good one, it'll become...
Cooler than Star Trek.
I was going to say three out of seven movies are good and four out of seven are garbage.
So, it's still mostly garbage
but you wouldn't count any of the prequels in any respect good no you couldn't make something good
out of those well i couldn't i mean like i'm sure there's some edits where they have been yeah like
you could i'm sure you could but that's not i'm not paying 20 bucks to go into a movie theatre and go,
hey, you know what?
In about 10 years, somebody's going to edit all these together
and make one good film.
I want to go in, pay my $20 and see a good film.
Yep, fair.
I mean, you're a bit kind of asking a bit much.
Isn't it, though?
You're right.
I hope this is a good one.
I think if J.J if james did a good
job of kicking off the last the star trek yep franchise not so much continuing it but he's he's
kicking this off uh he's writing a lot of the scripts and the script now with lawrence kazdan
apparently the original script was a big focus on uh the new characters and this is not as much
which i don't love right sure apparently george lucas's idea was when he all his ideas we talked about this last week didn't we how they threw out all his ideas
oh yep and what but the key symbolically like in a like in a ceremony i would say literally
they just they just opened a big fire pit and kicked him into it yeah and they played that
music that was like and they just
poured all these
I would have loved
all these crayon notes
I'd prefer if George Lucas
tried to do a flip
over J.J. Abrams
and J.J. Abrams
cut his legs off
and he rolled into
a pit of fire
sure yeah
that would have been
that'd be nice
that's symbolic right
or whatever
that's what you're thinking of
yeah
people are talking about
as well George Lucas
has become the person
he hates
like originally
he was all against big studios
and whatever.
The same way that
Anakin was against
big studios in the movies.
Oh yeah that's right.
And then he became
a big robot monster man.
He is a big robot monster man.
Yeah.
It's good.
Whatever.
I mean not whatever.
I'm very excited for it.
Yeah.
But you know
we'll see.
You got trepidation.
Definitely. But it's definitely my most anticipated movie without a doubt. Yeah. But, you know, we'll see. You've got trepidation. Definitely.
But it's definitely my most anticipated movie, without a doubt.
Yeah.
Even though we've been burnt.
So many times.
But it cannot be any worse.
I'm sure we've said that before.
It cannot be any worse than 1, 2, and 3.
Right?
What about that edit of 1, 2, and 3?
Oh, it could be on par with the edit, certainly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've said this a thousand times
people will be like
it's better than
the prequels
but it's not as good
as the originals
like that will be
there's no way
if I
what's gonna happen is
yeah that's gonna be
the initial
I think in 10 years
yeah
if this is an
excellent movie
objectively
in 10 years
people will be like
you know what
at this point we can admit
that it's better than the original versions.
Because I think, you know, this is a movie that I think...
There's been enough time and...
It's like Doctor Who now,
where I think people, studios especially,
know we're good at extracting what's best about the originals.
Yeah.
And sort of putting it into one movie.
Yeah.
And I think...
Yeah, that's what this is.
Yeah, that's what this is, yeah.
Absolutely.
And time travel.
Yeah, great.
Yeah, all of those things.
Yeah, Boba Fett.
The best guy.
The best guy.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm excited.
You're right, it can't be worse.
Someone accused me, I think recently, I can't remember whether it was on Twitter or a comment,
of being a prequel hater.
Because I think now it's come to the point where people have...
The kids who saw that when they were young, because we were a little bit older.
We were teenagers.
Right, right.
So we were like, we don't like this.
So a little bit...
No, I didn't hate it initially.
I was kind of like, I mulled on it for a few months.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I think I...
I think this isn't good, but it's weird.
It's Star Wars.
Yeah, exactly.
Everyone's telling me to like it.
Yeah.
The newspapers are giving it five stars for some reason.
There was a lot of that, yeah.
There's a lot of five-star reviews for Phantom Menace.
Now it's coming around where people are saying it's not cool to hate on me anymore.
And now the cool thing is to be like,
you know what, they're not that bad or whatever.
I think there's a lot of that now.
No, it's real cool to hate on.
I'm just saying, I think that there are people who are,
yeah, I think it's been enough time that people...
They are really bad though.
Yeah, I know.
They're not great.
I don't hate them.
They're exactly what they are.
But, yeah. But you know what, kids love them. They're not great And I don't I don't hate them They're exactly What they are Yeah But
Yeah
There's
But you know what
Kids love them
Like my
My brother's kids
You know
The one you like
Yeah sure
They
They love them
And they're like
You know
Five and seven
Or whatever
Which is weird
Yeah but they're kids movies
Except for the bit
Where he rolls into the fire
And kills all those kids
And the bits
That are really boring
There's
Have you listened to the podcast I Was There Too?
No.
It's by Matt Gawley, who was one half of James Bonding.
Great podcast.
And it's about, I Was There Too is about,
he talks to people who had minor roles in big films.
Oh, great.
And one of them, he talks to Greg Proops,
who was one half of the pod race announcer.
It is a two-headed pod race announcer. and it's it's someone recommended us for the next movie doing that yeah yeah that'd be pretty good um so there's a big interview it's really entertaining
you get to hear a lot about you know how movies are made and stuff like that and how you get
involved and that sort of thing but apparently like you know he would go in and he would and
he would do you know they improv lines and do script lines or whatever.
And, like, when he started doing these movies,
you know, months and months before, years before the movie was going to come out,
he'd go in and he'd do these lines and he'd do, like,
a hundred takes of every line kind of thing.
And then it got to, like, eight weeks before the movie came out
and they got him to come in again.
And, like, they just took everything one take. They they were just like like they were so short on time and they
were so like we've got to get we are so behind yeah on this movie we are rushing this into
production he's like oh you know we'll see this in any other universe whatever they're like fine
next line whatever oh there's a line there's a line that's like apparently he's gotten a lot
of flack for this over the years there's a line where he's like i don't care what universe you're
from that's gotta hurt oh yeah like there's only one universe this stuff this isn't a multiverse
yeah you're right it's all and solo talking about going from one side of the galaxy to the other
he's not saying he's not multiple universes is it yeah correct you're right good point
anyway i was there too it's really fun
that's not his fault he didn't write that did he no exactly or he did i don't know no i think maybe
that's one of the lines he improved oh that's so good i bet he did some better ones yeah yeah
pixels last one oh yeah i say this for last it's just in the list uh you know what that is there's
a short film where it's basically 8-bit kind of old video game characters attack the city.
Oh, yes.
But in this movie version, Adam Sandler's in it.
Great.
And the Dink.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
And Josh Gad.
And they're like video game kind of King of Kong style champions.
And the aliens invade and they take the form of space invaders and Donkey Kong and whatever.
And they have to stop them.
Now, it seems positive but then
there's two words yeah those two specific words you've said which have thrown doubt in which are
adam and sandler yes we were talking earlier about how entourage there's a movie within a movie yeah
in the movie funny people yes or prior to that there's there's the the character played by adam
sandler in that film has done a lot of terrible movies where he's become a baby or whatever.
He's a mermaid.
He's a mermaid or whatever.
And those movies...
Look like actual Adam Sandler movies.
Yeah, look like actual Adam Sandler movies.
And then he was in Funny People, which was quite good.
And people were like, oh, maybe this is the last Adam Sandler kind of...
He's realised what he's become.
He's going to throw off those kind of shackles
and just do good movies from there.
And then he just kept doing terrible movies after that.
Didn't take a breath.
Didn't take a breath at all.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
Adam Sandler.
I like the concept.
Yeah.
It's the only Adam Sandler thing...
The only Adam Sandler thing kind of bothers me.
But he is capable of turning in a good performance.
He is, absolutely. And he is likeable. Yeah. But he is capable of turning in a good performance. He is, absolutely.
And he is likeable.
Yeah, apparently he's the nicest man in Hollywood.
Despite making the worst movie.
But then to be fair, I've never seen most of these movies.
Right.
So, I mean, they're probably...
Jack and Jill.
No, of course not.
I'm never going to watch that.
That's crazy.
Like, I just would never.
Talking about podcasts, there's also another podcast which I haven't listened to yet but it's called i think it's called the worst idea ever
and every week they watch grown-ups too oh yeah they're just gonna do it for months and just talk
about it slowly go insane yeah and they're gonna wait grown-ups too not grown up grown-ups too
yeah oh wow that's intense yeah well that sounds Yeah. That's all the movies for the year, Mason. Not.
To.
Not.
Oh yeah.
There'll be more.
What is that?
That's the first half of the year?
No, that's pretty much everything.
Okay, well.
All the big kind of ones, yeah.
Oh, Ant-Man, of course.
Yeah.
We talked about that.
Yeah, at length.
Yeah, sure.
It's going to be great.
Hopefully.
Who cares?
I care, Mason.
All right, sorry.
Jeez.
I guess what it's time for uh you just
gone through the list are you just saying there's anything else yes
anything else no we know they probably we can do indie stuff next week or
whatever no well that's the thing you don't really know with indie movies they
kind of keep them on the down low they do yeah
maybe that's why i'm enjoying indie movies more these days
hey because i'm a pretentious prick who's always in like you're talking about
indiana jones yeah exactly yeah because i'm always in like little south
american villages just enjoying enjoying just mixing it who's always in like... You're talking about Indiana Jones movies, right? Yeah, exactly. Because I'm always in like little South American villages
just enjoying the nature.
Just mixing it with the locals.
Yeah, exactly.
And they love having you there, don't they?
Boy, do they.
Because I'm just...
I'm a big city guy.
But I'm not above it.
No.
But I think maybe I'm enjoying indie movies more
because they're surprising.
Like there's not 10 variations of the trailer
and 40 minutes of footage.
Yeah.
You know, I'm actually surprised by what happens in them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, let's talk about the indie movie.
I'm getting really old.
I think that's probably it.
Two things.
Well, you know what it's time for then?
Oh, yes.
What are we reading?
Oh, what are we going to read?
I'm doing a thing.
What are we reading today?
What's you reading going to read?
You go first.
I'm sure I've been reading something.
This is something I'm not going to read.
Oh, yes.
A lot of people have written in to tell me this.
Sage got in first, though.
Someone has edited down The Hobbit into one movie.
Oh, yes.
Because remember we were talking about, ideally, that should have been one movie or two movies
and the best of.
So someone's done it.
And I said I'd watch it, but I'm just not going to watch it.
How long is it?
It's like four hours.
Still too long.
There's no way I'm watching that.
No, exactly.
I need to give that at least five years.
What are we getting chopped out of those?
All the stuff that's not in the book.
So most of it.
Most of the stuff.
Okay.
Yeah.
So that's what I'm not going to be reading.
Oh, yes.
And I've just been reading a bunch of comics and whatever.
Oh, yeah.
Just comics and whatever.
I'm going to get into Moon Knight.
You are.
The new Moon Knight.
It's good, right?
I read that issue that you recommended where he takes the raid style.
He takes that building.
Great.
It's like wordless.
Yeah, it's good, isn't it?
Mostly wordless.
It's really good.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah.
Did you read the issue where he fights the ghost punks?
Yes.
Good,
right?
Volume one,
Moon Knight.
Yeah.
It's really good.
It's really good.
Yeah.
That's what I've been reading.
And that's what we read in this week.
No,
I watch White House Down.
I don't know why. You know what I'm doing?
Cause I know I,
it's just a whole,
there's a whole bunch of stuff on my iPad and I'm clearing it out.
And I'm like,
I should,
why don't I put that on there?
I'll delete it.
And I'll watch it.
White House Down was fun.
It's fun, isn't it?
It's a real fun film.
And I came like two years ago or whatever.
Dan O'Brien from Cracked said that that's the best Die Hard movie since the good Die Hard movies.
Yeah, I think you're right.
It is.
Tatum's great in it.
Isn't he?
He's a bit of a charmer, but he can punch a man.
Jamie Foxx is the president.
He is the president.
And they have the bloody mini guns in the SUVs.
Yep.
Which is a real thing.
Real bullets?
Yeah, real.
Like real casings?
Yeah, real.
Because I know you're a big stickler for real casings.
I love a real mini gun in a movie.
Oh, so good.
You know what?
I actually watched it last night.
Real James Woods.
So good. Great. Yes? you know what I actually watched last night Real James Woods so good
great
yes
I watched the last
about half an hour of Doom
like back and forth
oh yeah
The Rock's Doom
yeah
I was watching it
and I'm like
I remember this
we saw it together
I remember
and I know it was you
because all these movies
I saw with you
right
sure
we didn't have any other
friends dumb enough
to see all these movies
no we did not
which is weird
because we have a lot of dumb friends.
But yeah, so you liked White House Down.
Did you see the other one?
The White House is Falling?
Oh.
On Gerard Bach.
London is Falling, whatever it was called.
The new one's called London.
Olympus is Falling.
The new one's called London is Falling.
No, I didn't see Olympus is Falling.
It didn't look as much fun.
No.
No, they're both fine.
You know, it's weird that Olympus has fallen is called Olympus is falling.
And like Olympus is obviously the metaphor for the White House.
Yeah, we've discussed this.
I pointed this out.
London is actually London.
Okay, sorry.
I apologize, Mason.
Yeah.
So you would recommend White House down.
Yes.
Did you like how he had a daughter and he had to get the job for the president?
Yeah, that was fun.
To save his daughter?
Yeah.
Jake Gyllenhaal's sister was in it? Jamie Foxx is like, your hands off my jordans it's pretty good i don't remember it's been many
years i know right i've actually got a bona fide classic i've actually got a letter here from james
the official james of the podcast wait a second aren't you that no you're not no i'm not i didn't
get in i could have said it before i read that but i decided not to hey lads i want to suggest
a marvel noir series from 2009.
Oh, yes.
It takes some of the Marvel heroes and drops them in the 30s and 40s.
It's quite dark and changes everything up for new styles.
For example, in the Spider-Man series, Norman Osborn runs an underground Sinister Six gang
where they're all carnival freaks and Vulture is the one who kills Uncle Ben.
And in the X-Men series, they aren't mutants, they're sociopaths.
Anyway, it's a great... Some of the X-Men series they aren't mutants they're sociopaths. Anyway, it's a great...
Some of the X-Men are also
so they're mutants and sociopaths.
I would say about half.
Anyway, it's a great twist
on the Marvel Universe
and I suggest you check it out.
Haven't read it?
I've read some of them.
They're pretty good.
Yeah, they're fun.
Great.
You know what that means.
Yes.
That's what we're reading
for this week.
Oh, there we go.
And now it's time for letters.
That was also... That was already a letter. That was a what we're reading. Oh one. Oh, there we go. And now it's time for letters. That was also...
That was already a letter.
That was a what we're reading.
Oh, okay, sure.
Know your segments of the show you're on, Mason.
I don't know anything about segments.
Any more what we're reading?
No, I'm good.
All right.
Hey, guys, love the show.
Love the YouTube channel.
Quick question.
You guys follow The Flash, the TV series.
Sure.
We don't follow him in real life.
He's too fast.
Oh.
Pretty good, wasn't it't it yeah it was really
you made a good joke there
good
what are your theories
on the reverse flash
there's been footage
of slowed down
reverse flash
and voice
and there seems to be
two different people
what do you think
and can I be the
official person
of the podcast
yes
thanks guys
keep up the good work
lucky from Croydon
Victoria Australia
oh
you know I
here's my theory yeah because you know
in the in the flash the reverse flash is out to kill the flash yeah we know that he killed
the flash's mother correct all the evidence points to being harrison wells yes and actually
jay raw did a video of this i talked about in last week youtube channel check it out um he slowed
down or somebody showed him but then he did it where he slowed down the reverse
flash and it is Harrison Wells.
Right.
The voice.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Except there's a bit where it doesn't sound like him and it could be someone else.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here's my theory.
So, because all the evidence points to Harrison Wells being the reverse flash.
Yeah.
By the fact, like, he's got the reverse flash suit, for example.
He stabbed that dude, which you don't remember.
He's clearly a murderer.
I don't remember.
He's got future information.
He's got future newspapers.
From the future.
Yeah.
He can walk.
He can walk when Harrison Wells is supposedly confined to a wheelchair, etc., etc.
And we've also got Eddie Thorne.
Yeah. And we've also got Eddie Thorne, who is a police detective, who seems to be a completely normal, regular guy.
Yeah.
Like, he's not even nice to his girlfriend, but then he's awful to Barry Allen.
Yeah.
He's not like...
There's actually a scene where...
There's an episode where he realizes that Barry Allen might be in love with his girlfriend Iris.
And he stabs him to death.
Yeah.
And he just goes, hey, I think Barry might like you.
Maybe you should talk to him.
But if he was a bad guy, he'd go to Barry and be like, stay away from my girl, I'll kill you.
Kind of thing.
So he's just a normal guy.
Nothing to say here then.
Sorry?
Nothing to say here then.
I don't know why you even brought it up.
Nothing to say here then.
Sorry?
Nothing to say here then.
I don't know why you even brought it up.
So in the comic books, one of the reverse Flashes is Earbud Thorne,
who's a Flash from the future.
Who's a guy from the future who becomes obsessed with a Flash,
gives himself surgery to make himself look like the Flash,
and then he goes back in time.
He gets Flash powers.
Wait a minute.
Is this guy, like, is he okay, like, mentally?
Yeah, he's fine.
Okay.
He's great.
Just a big fan. So if, like,? Yeah, he's fine. Okay. Yeah, he's great. Just a big fan. Yeah, so if, like we've discussed this before,
but I think if Eddie Thorne became the reverse,
like if it turned out he was the reverse Flash,
that's a nonsensical revelation in the TV series
because he's a good guy and et cetera.
But, and again, but if Harrison Wells is the reverse Flash,
that's not a twist.
Yeah.
Because all the evidence points to it.
Yeah.
I think Harrison Wells is the bad guy and the superpowers are in the suit.
Okay. So he can put the suit on somebody else.
Yeah.
Because there's a scene towards the end of the season, maybe it's the last or second
last episode, where the reverse Flash shows up.
Yeah.
He's captured and then he
escapes and he grabs harrison wells and he sort of beats him up yeah and i don't think
the show is technical enough to have him be both people at the same time like he's moving so fast
that he can switch it out of the costumes no it's a time travel thing i know i don't think it is a
time travel thing i think he can put i think he's putting the suit on other people.
Okay.
And controlling their minds somehow.
Okay.
Maybe he can speak through the suit.
Yep.
And I'm going to guess, here's what I'm going to guess,
is he puts the suit on Eddie Thorne,
sends him back in time and he kills Barry Allen's mother.
Okay, sure.
And then they would have some sort of, you know,
they would have a, not a rivalry,
but like he would, they would have a reason to hate each other.
Yeah.
You know, for whatever reason, right?
I would say, this is my theory.
I'm ready.
And I don't know, because this could just twist in any way.
Yeah, yeah.
It could even twist in a completely nonsensical way,
because it's TV and not real.
So.
But yeah, I think, and someone else has said this,
that he, I don't think he's the bad guy
i think he's doing this to get barry allen ready for the future oh okay right and it's like all a
test and i think the reverse flash exists yep but he's not the bad reverse flash he's merely the
motivation for him to because then in the next episode we saw him training to be faster and
better and right whatever and maybe it turns out that that guy is the reverse Flash the whole time.
The other guy, the cop.
Right.
And because he's so nothing.
You don't.
You're not supposed to suspect him.
Okay, sure.
But they haven't set that up at all in any way.
No, exactly.
They haven't, yeah.
And maybe he's from the future and he knows that they get together.
So he gets in the way of that and whatever.
And I don't know, I'm just guessing.
But I think he's basically training him.
Right.
So in the comic book universe,
one of the other reverse Flash is Hunter Zolomon.
Yeah.
He's insane, surprisingly.
And he believes that people become better heroes through tragedy
and so he goes back in time
and he kills
the Flash's mother
oh okay yeah
so it could be that
definitely
could be that
yeah
but I
my money's on me being right
okay
this guy
my money's on you being right also
yes
we both win
yeah
who knows
could go any way
yeah
could go no way
could get cancelled
but again I think
Harrison Wells did kill that guy
so
there was no reason
for him to murder that guy,
so I think maybe he's just a bad guy.
I don't remember.
Don't remember.
He stabbed him a whole bunch of times.
This is from Brendan Connor, the official king of the podcast.
Basically, he's cutting his beautiful hair, right?
Do we have a photo?
No, I don't.
We're just assuming it's a beautiful hair.
I've seen a photo of him.
He has beautiful hair.
Oh, okay, great.
So basically, it's to raise money
because a child is diagnosed every three minutes worldwide um with cancer
so it's it's one out of one 285 in the u.s alone and i don't want to feel any pressure to donate
but if you can help there's a link which i can't read out here because it's a series of numbers
i'll put on the facebook page so he's our official king so of course we
pretty good so i'll put that up on the facebook give to charity
guys unless you don't want to steal from charity then do whatever you want it's late it is late
what time is it bloody hell he's late all right um hey guys do you edit it do you edit out those
things where you're like oh it's late up light up time. I want to end it all.
I want to sleep forever.
Do you leave those in?
I'd say 90% of them I leave in.
Great.
Hey, guys.
My name is Alex,
and I'm relatively new listeners to the podcast.
I've been going back to the old episodes because I can't get enough.
And also because none of the new episodes make sense
unless you've listened to the old episodes.
That's true.
The perfect crime.
I was wondering if you could talk about good comics
that aren't DC or Marvel
because I'm looking to read some new stuff.
For some reason, I trust two mad strangers from the other side of the world
to point me in the right direction.
Thanks for reading and I hope you continue making podcasts forever
or until Mason finally snaps and murders James.
Yes.
P.S. Can I be the guy who failed his exams because he didn't revise
because he couldn't stop listening to the podcast of the podcast?
Oh, yes.
Great stuff.
Great stuff.
We'll do an episode on that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because we,
I don't think we don't touch
on non-Marvel DC stuff enough.
Not a lot, yeah.
We do kind of
in the Watch You Read It.
Yeah, when we go through it.
We rarely do an episode on it.
No, we haven't.
So definitely
we will do that.
And I will
thank you, Mason,
for your contribution to that show in the future.
Oh, sure.
Hey, guys.
I wanted to submit a topic discussion.
Who is Spider-Man's main villain?
Even though Venom is argued as his arch nemesis,
I think there are greater, more sinister villains for Spider-Man.
Anyways, thanks.
Keep up the great work.
Green Goblin.
Yeah, me too.
That's what I thought.
It is, right?
It is, yeah. He knows who he is generally you know you can't kill him because
he keeps coming back for some reason jerk yeah he's got that glider he's a jerk too yeah he's
a real jerk yeah i killed gwen stacy that time he did yeah um he's really interesting in the
movies like he's got an interesting costume in the movies. Yeah, sure.
So many interesting versions.
Do you know in the original Spider-Man run,
I remember seeing Stanley explain it.
The way that he found out he's Spider-Man,
Green Goblin found out,
he just followed him home.
Yeah, great, right?
I think he had an anti-Spider-Sense...
Trace-and- bug thing on it.
Yeah, exactly.
But he was just like,
oh,
oh,
okay.
It's that kid.
And that was it.
Yeah.
That's all it took.
So all you needed back then.
Yeah.
Now it's IP addresses and
Yeah, exactly.
Whatever.
I don't even know.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
But no,
he's had a lot.
I'd say in the 90s,
it was definitely Venom.
Because again, there was always an extreme version of every character back then.
Exactly.
Do you think he should just kill the vulture just because he's stopped bothering him?
No.
Nature will do it on its own.
Okay.
But it hasn't yet, has it?
No, he's pretty sturdy.
Yeah.
For an old bloke.
Okay. This is from Kitt, has it? No, he's pretty sturdy. Yeah. For an old bike. Okay.
This is from Kittrick.
Hello, good sirs.
My name is Kittrick and I reside in Kentucky.
And he said he's in brackets, sadly.
I don't know whether...
I've never been there.
I don't know.
Have you been?
No, you haven't.
I've sampled their delightful chicken products.
What's it called?
Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Don't know it.
Okay, right.
First off, I just wanted to start off by saying thank you for all the podcasts.
I listened to them on the way to university.
No problem.
It is a great way to start the morning.
Now, next, how can I donate to the Weekly Planet Fund to help in any way I can?
Weekly Planet Pod on, no, what is it?
Patreon.com.
Patreon.com.
Slash Mr. Sunday Movies.
Or we've got a band camp.
Not band camp.
We don't know anything about it.
We do have a band camp.
Yeah, we do. We do. It's theweeklyplanet.bandcamp.com, I think. Any of those Not band camp. We don't know anything about it. We do have a band camp. Yeah, we do.
We do.
It's theweeklyplanet.bandcamp.com, I think.
Any of those things are fine.
Or don't.
It's fine.
You don't have to contribute.
He says, I've traveled extensively throughout Europe and have met a lot of Australians and
New Zealanders.
And I'm bringing it all back to Australia.
Sure, yeah.
That's the last thing.
And I always seem to be fired over the same topic for some reason.
I was wondering if the professionals, that you could help finish the argument the argument is who claims russell crowe
new zealand or australia well thank you for your time and i hope this email gets where it needs to
go yeah it did it did yeah where the authorities on this we've talked about this before he's he's
australian when he does something good he's's from New Zealand when he does something bad. Yeah.
So, and I think...
What is he at the moment?
Ah, I think he's Australian right now.
What's the last bad...
Oh, you know what?
Because the last thing he did was he said there weren't any good roles for women in...
Over 40.
But I think that was twisted slightly, maybe.
Yeah, but the media said...
But it doesn't matter.
It's irrelevant whether the media twisted it or not.
Yeah.
Because what he said was something along...
The media reported that he said something like,
ah, these actors...
These actors...
Yeah.
These actresses aren't acting their age in Hollywood.
Yeah.
They should, you know, they should stop trying to play,
these older actresses should stop playing young,
trying to play younger roles or something like that.
Yeah.
And people, you know, understandably were like,
well, nobody writes roles for older actresses in Hollywood.
It's just young or nothing.
So you've got to take it.
It's young or you have to be Meryl Streep.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And whether he said that or not, that's what the media reported.
So now he's from New Zealand.
That's how it works.
Officially, technically, born in New Zealand, moved to Australia.
Correct.
And I think he resides in Australia.
Yeah.
But I don't care if he's here or not, whatever.
Yeah, but also he lives in Sydney.
So, boo.
Dickhead.
What a dickhead.
What a wanker.
I like Sydney.
So it answered your question sometimes.
Correct.
That's the show, Mason.
Great.
I just want to say, I might be on another WatchMojo list.
I don't know yet.
You seem a bit down about that.
No, it's fine.
For best comic book YouTube channels.
Oh, lovely.
And I'm in the top 10.
Oh, yeah.
But I don't know whether I qualify or whatever.
So I sent him an email to be like, am I in this?
Because if not, I don't want to bother anybody with this, basically.
Because it does help.
It boosts, you know, we've got a lot of listeners through that.
So if we've got an again, great, I guess.
But I also don't think that it qualifies.
So if you want to go to watch Mojo, top comic things, vote for it.
Top comic things.
If you want.
Yeah.
But I don't know whether it would mean anything.
So get out there, Mason.
Yeah.
Speaking of things that don't mean anything,
if you like listen to us, tell your friends and subscribe.
Please.
Because apparently that does something.
It does everything.
Or not.
We don't know.
We don't know.
We don't know.
They're so vague at Apple, aren't they?
They're really vague.
They're just a bloody strong box.
You can't get in.
So, yeah.
Where can people find us, though?
They can find us at Weekly Planet Pod on Facebook and Twitter and Gmail.
I'm at Wikipedia Brown.
I'm at Mr. Sunday Movies.
Oh, another thing, Mason.
Yes.
On our Patreon page, if you're a Patreon member.
Oh, yes.
Patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday Movies.
I'm putting up a video, which is some versus stuff that we cut from last week's episode.
Oh, okay, cool.
Because that episode went forever.
It really did.
We ended up cutting like 10, 15 minutes out of it.
It seemed like it went forever.
This one has also gone forever.
It sure has.
And so that will be up there.
Exciting.
Don't worry, if you donate any amount, you can have that this week.
But also, if you can't, I'm going to upload it to iTunes anyway.
Sure. Probably like next week or sometime next month. Sure. No, if you can't, I'm going to upload it to iTunes anyway. Sure.
Probably like next week or sometime next month.
Sure.
No stress if you can't.
And remember what they say, the stuff they edit out is the best stuff.
It's not.
Right.
Okay, sure.
Just so we're clear.
But I thought people might want to hear it.
And if you're already a patron, then yeah, sure, you can go listen to it.
I wouldn't recommend donating just to listen to it.
Sure.
There's other stuff on there if you want, I guess.
Yeah.
The suggestions aren't bad, but I think at that point we were just like out of steam.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, that happens.
It's not a reflection on the people who sent them in.
Yeah.
It's more on us.
Sure, yeah.
But they're fine.
I don't care.
Why don't they all just be friends?
I don't even...
Who cares, man?
Oh, I'm tired.
I want to sleep.
That's it. sleep that's it
and that's the show
for this week
that is the show
but remember next week
on Black Mirror
the men who left
it's Christmas
but everybody's dead
because nobody just
reads anymore
you know
nobody lifts their head
up for a second
from those infernal
pocket jailers
we call phones
to even cross the street
before being merrily
struck by a car
and everyone's on Twitter
and that's just terrible.
And you've murdered everyone.
And now it's Christmas half the time, and murder the other half,
and phones all the time, and it's all television's fault.
That's great stuff.
Very good.
It is, isn't it?
Yeah.
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
Thanks.
Grab that gem, guys.
Bye.
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