The Weekly Planet - 8 Best & Worst CBM's Of 2013

Episode Date: November 19, 2013

This week we're talking best and worst comic book movies of 2013.Iron Man 3, Man Of Steel, Thor: The Dark World...G.I.Joe: Retaliation I guess, they're all here.Full spoilers for all these films. And Gravity. And Executive Decision. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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for that incredible theme song. Do you still like it? I love it every time. It's the best. We've actually had comments, people saying, great theme song. Are you taking credit for that?

Yes. Me too. Me too. So yeah, look, I could never have come up with anything even remotely as good as that. So what a great day for us. Isn't it though?

Yeah. Also, you know how we reached out to people for other theme songs? Uh-huh. Didn't get a single one. That's because they've realised we're idiots and we'll waste all our potential. Yep. So I guess we'll just stick with this one for a length of time. Well, it is the best one.

It is the best one. Yeah. The first one was alright though. Yeah. Not too... No, it is the best one. It is the best one, yeah. The first one was alright, though. Yeah. Not too... No, I meant the best song overall in the world. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

No, sorry. You're right. Yeah. No, good point. Yep. So, yeah. What are we now? Episode 8 of the Weekly Planet?

Yes. Welcome, listeners. Welcome. Official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com. Feels good to say that, doesn't it? It does, doesn't it? Can I say it? Because otherwise, what are we doing this for?

Yeah, I know, right? Pointless. Do you good to say that, doesn't it? It does, doesn't it? Because otherwise, what are we doing this for? Yeah, I know, right? Pointless. Do you want to say it? No, I actually can't say that word. Oh, shit. Boy, this has brought up some painful memories. So this week we're talking best and worst comic book movies of 2013.

Can I preempt you? I've got some Arrow news. Oh my goodness. Some Arrow news, you ready for this? Have you watched every episode of Arrow? I've got some Arrow news. Oh my goodness. I've got some Arrow news. Are you ready for this? Have you watched every episode of Arrow? I've watched a couple of episodes of Arrow. Okay, right.

It's pretty good. Which season? Which is the first four of the first season? Oh, what do you think? I think you... You know what? I'm sticking with it. I'm going to give it two seasons.

I think it gets better as it goes. Excellent. Well, good. You know what? Three episodes in, they've introduced Deadshot. Yep. So they've introduced a character, an established character with some abilities. Yep, good, yep, yep.

That's good. You did say that it is credit to the main actor for juggling three different personas. Did I say that? In the show. Well, I think what you actually meant was juggling three different haircuts. Because he certainly juggles three different haircuts. Douchebag, pre-island haircut, long hair, island haircut, post-island haircut. Post-island haircut.

I like that. That's a great name for a band. Isn't it though? Post-island haircut. So I'm sticking with it. But you know what though? People are saying Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. people aren't liking it as much because Arrow's had a better chance to build up.

More time to build up. Do you think that Arrow did the build up? We've only seen four. Do you think those four are better than the first four of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Yes. Wow. Didn't have to think about it. You could have cut me off mid-question then, couldn't you?

Yeah, definitely. But you didn't, because you're a good guy. But I'm going to for all your remaining questions for this podcast. I understand. So, yeah, we've got a little bit of news to start with. I'm ready. Do you want to open with the Bat Kid? I love the Bat Kid.

You just told me about this, like, literally ten minutes ago. Well, here's the thing. I didn't... I told you the details of the Bat Kid. I love the Bat Kid. You just told me about this, like, literally ten minutes ago. Well, here's the thing, I didn't... I told you the details of the Bat Kid. Yes. Because you had... You were aware of the word Bat Kid. I was. You saw it on various Twitters and social medias, and what did you think? I completely ignored it. You were like...

Indifferent. Yeah. So, the Bat Kid, five-year-old Myles Scott... I feel terrible. You do, because you ignore a Make-A-Wish child. It's like you ignored him on the street. I'd like to say it's the first time, but it's definitely not. It's definitely not the last, is it? First or last.

Yeah, he made the wish that he wanted to be Batman, and so the entire city of San Francisco became Gotham City for the day. And he foiled the Penguin. Yep. He rescued a lady from some train tracks. Nice. And he foiled the Riddler. Wait, Riddler, train tracks, Penguin. Dan Penguin. He rescued a lady from some train tracks. Nice. And he foiled the Riddler. Wait, Riddler, train tracks, Penguin.

Dan Penguin. Who put the lady on the train track? It was just a lady. Was that related? No, it wasn't related. No, he just happened to say... And he was like, look, stop the play acting for one second. I'm just going to rescue this woman who's trapped in a train track.

And then back to the little thing. I mean, I appreciate that I'm Batman today, but I've got to do some stuff, mate. What a great kid. I love, like, I bought stuff like that. It's the best. Sorry, go on. Do you think he had a little Robin sidekick? His little brother. He did. His little brother was just as Robin,

which is the best. That's awesome. Yeah, and they made up a Batmobile. Yeah. Barack Obama sent him a message. Oh my god. How did you miss all of this? I missed everything. What did you do today? Things other than stay in your bedroom and look at social media I went for breakfast

and I got a ploughman's breakfast Is that in some way entertainment related? No Then shut your mouth Shut it Shut it about your breakfasts I deserve that Steering the ship already I hate it Get back to your comic book news Breakfasts. I deserve that.

Steering this ship already. I hate it. Get back to your comic book. Anyway, I've deviated from the amazing five-year-old Make-A-Wish child. Tell me about your friend who was a Make-A-Wish kid. Well, my friend, Tommy, who listeners might know, is one of the hosts of The Little Dumb Dumb Club, which is another podcast, another great Australian podcast. He, as a child, had aplastic

anemia, and so he was a make-a-wish kid. They weren't sure that he was going to make it. And similarly to this child, he got his wish, and that wish was for a laptop. But he feels like a real dickhead now, doesn't he? Eh? He's alive. I was going to say he's alive. He's an adult now. Does he still use that laptop from 1995?

Maybe it's a breadboard or from 1995 maybe it's a breadboard or something probably it's a breadboard yeah oh well good on him glad he's alive though that's good maybe that laptop

gave him the the will to live absolutely yeah okay anyway the bad kid's great yeah good on him he's gonna get through this

because he's the best yes I bloody hope so and he had a Batmobile too ah man I know right what a legend yeah good kid do you, man. I know, right? What a legend.

Yeah. Good kid. Do you have more news? I do. I have actually Batman news. I've got here Batkid question mark. What is this nonsense? I've got here Batkid who cares. Great.

Good God. I'll take that back. But I'm not editing it out. No, don't. Okay, so Kevin Smith apparently. Oh, no, I'm kidding. He's fine. He's fine. I like him.

Why do I... I don't know. I think maybe he's a bit... Not the general, but there's a lot of that on the internet. So I think that's an automatic response. You know what it is? It's Cop Out did it for me. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. Cop Out is the very first movie in my life. It's the first time that I've ever turned off a movie halfway through.

Oh my god. It took me until I was well into adulthood before I'm like, you know what? There's never going to be a scenario where I'm at a party and I have to have a conversation

with somebody about the ending to cop out. So I just switch it off. The baseball card gets shot in Bruce Willis' chest. Thank God, because I was going to be at a Kevin Smith-themed party later tonight and I knew that was going to come up.

Yeah, that's not a good movie. But he talks about the nightmare it was working on that film. The script's not great, though, and apparently him and Bruce Willis didn't get along. It doesn't show. No, it does. Anyway, let's never talk about that again.

No. Okay, so basically, he's seen New Batsuit with Ben Affleck in it. Zack Snyder showed him a picture on his iPhone machine or Samsung machine. I'd be happy to accept.

Maybe it was a Virtu. What's that? It's like the luxury phone for rich people. Is it like gold? Yeah, it's got gold. You've nailed it. Is it really gold? It really has gold on it, yeah.

Okay, so he saw it. It's got a concierge button. You push the concierge button and there's a concierge name. Is it Michael J. Fox from the movie The Concierge? Yes. Have you heard of that movie? Yes.

It's amazing. I really like that movie. Okay, so anyway. Apparently the Batsuit is different from everything we've seen before. You know, like it's either an armour or like a one-piece like plastic chest piece. Yeah, sure. With nipples on it or not. Yep.

This one... Or just like a flabby kind of like a nylon-y kind of grey... Like a satiny... Yeah, like a satiny kind of...

Just a bag of potato salad just... Just a full bag. Yeah. Well, it's actually... I would say of all the suits it's probably closest to that.

Yeah. Because... It's still not that close because apparently it's based on the Jim Lee kind of look. Uh-huh.

Specifically, well, Jim Lee's done two big major redesigns of the Batsuit. Harsh, yep. Which I think was 2002. Uh-huh. I might be wrong. That with the blue and grey. Yep, sure. And also he did the new 52 suit.

Huh. I'm on board with either of those suits. Yeah. What do you think? Do you think it's going to look like that, though? Well, apparently it's very, very close. Huh. I don't know how, I don't know if blue and gray is going to play on. Yeah. Um, blue and gray doesn't always play. That's the saying, isn't it? That's the saying in Hollywood. That's what Michael Bay is always saying. Sure is. He's like blue and gray doesn't always play. Michael Bay. And he points finger guns and he says, Michael Bay.

And then he smashes his head into a pile of cocaine. Yeah, that's what he does. Having just lifted his head from the pile of cocaine to say that. And then back into the cocaine. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I have faith in that. I mean, obviously we have to see it. But again, I don't need a battle armour.

I don't need to go, this is practical in the real world. You don't need to tell me. I don't need to say that it's bulletproof. I think it's more important that he can move freely than be bulletproof. He'd probably argue otherwise. I'd like to see options. I'd like to see a snow suit. Oh, yeah, that'd be cool.

Camo suit. Karate chop action suit. Grappling hook suit. You know, with like a giant backpack that shoots a grappling hook. Lava suit. You know when Batman always has to go into lava? He does go into lava a lot.

He's never been into lava. But, you know, I have, you know, if anybody's going to make, design a good bat suit, it's a comic book artist. I mean, the movie Iron Man suit

is based on sort of the extremist design from the comic books. Sure. Perfect. Perfect example. I'm sure it's great. Or not.

Yeah, it could be we'll never know um one other quick thing uh producer at Warner Brothers said hang on what did

Kevin Smith think of the he loved it he hugged the snide did he yeah huh and said you've nailed it bro huh

I don't know if he said that probably sounds like yeah yeah so yeah he loved it probably said you nailed it sir he does say that. And whatnot. And shit.

Yeah. He does say shit a lot. So yeah, there you go. The producer, a producer from Warner Brothers also tweeted something along the lines

of this, that this Batman will be semi-retired, not talking to Robin. I'm glad you said semi-retired. No. You were going to say

something else, but don't say it. Don't say it though. Just complete the sentence. You put the word in my head. I know, say it. Don't say it, though. Just complete the sentence. You put the word in my head. I know, now you can't not say it. But say the whole sentence again and see if you get through it. Batman will be semi-retired, not talking to Robin, and controlling drones from his cave.

Ooh. Now, that's similar to... Kingdom Come. Kingdom Come, exactly. Yeah. That's a great read. He's much older than that. He's like 70 plus.

And he's in a weird back brace. Yeah, he is. Yeah, yeah. He still gets out about that. He does, yeah. Yeah, that's a great read he's much older than that he's like 70 plus and he's in a weird back brace yeah he is yeah yeah he still gets out and about he does yeah that's a great comic but um yeah so you know

as long as he can still fight and get out and about I'm okay with that whatever so there you go no more Batman news this week you look sad well you're out of Batman news

I got one more thing ooh I don't oh could you make something up Kevin Smith yes saw the Batsuit yeah yeah Batman years. I got one more thing. Ooh. I don't. Could you make something up? Kevin Smith. Yes.

Saw the Batsuit. Yeah, yeah. And I'm going to edit that out. Okay, good. I've got nothing. Blanked. Completely blanked. It could work. Okay, so the second thing.

This is something you didn't see until 10 minutes ago. So now who's the idiot? I mean, mine was a sick child. Yep. And mine was a piece of pop culture detritus that everybody will forget tomorrow. But sure, continue. Paul McGann. I know Paul McGann.

The famous Doctor Who from the mid-90s Doctor Who telly movie, which was supposed to spin off in a new series, but it never did because everybody hated it. Uh-huh, sure. That's what it says on the DVD cover. You're reading right off the DVD cover. On some original content. He's, um... I've never seen that. Have you seen it? Yeah. I know, what's his name? Eric Roberts is in it. Yes, absolutely. And he's the master. Yep, of acting. Yeah, he sure is. Anyway, that, a short film appeared online, which shows his transformation.

I'm not going to say to who, if you haven't seen it, spoiler alert and whatnot. No spoilers, I'm not going to... Zero spoilers. And it leads up to the 50th anniversary episode of Doctor Who, which is out next week. In cinemas as well, which we'll talk about next week.

Surely by the time this comes out, everyone will have seen it. No, because this will come out Tuesday and then it's out on... No, I meant the trailer, the thing we just saw. Possibly. But I'm saying... Yes? News. Oh, okay, the trailer, the thing we just saw. Possibly. But I'm saying...

Yes? News. Oh, okay, fine. All right. It's good news, though. I mean, this is a kind of like, what did you think of it thing. How about that?

Well, as someone who watches the odd episode of Doctor Who... Yes. Every odd number. Yeah. One and three, five... Seven was good. Seven was great. Sylvester McCoy.

Oh. Yeah, that's his name. Oh, who cares? You know what? I'm ambivalent. It was the most exciting Doctor Who thing I'd seen in a while. I'll watch this episode that's coming out. You're goddamn right you will.

Are we seeing it at the cinema? We can see it at the cinema, yeah. We'll see it at the cinema, okay, cool. It's 3D. Can we see it at the cinema in 2D? We can see it at the cinema, or we can just download it for free. Oh yeah, we can do that option too, isn't it? But we're not going to do that because this is all above board.

Is it? Yes. What's this pile of cocaine doing here then? That's for Michael Bay. Oh, sorry. Don't touch that. Sorry. That's the Bay's cocaine.

Sorry. What's he saying again? Black and grey. Sometimes doesn't play. Anyway, look, it will... Anytime something like this happens, it sustains my interest in Doctor Who for like two episodes. So I'll watch that.

I'll watch the one that's coming up and the one after that, and then I'll have no interest. Until Peter Capaldi takes over, and then I'll watch two, and then I'll have no interest. And then somebody like four weeks down the line will say, hey, there was a really great episode written by blah, blah, blah.

Hopefully it's not an even number episode. Then I can't watch it. But if it's an odd, then I'll watch that and I'll be like, well, that's pretty great and then I'll watch one more episode

and I'm out again. You know what? That's probably the best way to watch Doctor Who because there's a lot of filler to be honest. And I like Doctor Who but yeah,

probably the best way to watch it. But do you make yourself watch every episode anyway? I've seen pretty much every episode since David I have seen every episode since David Tim but not Eccleston

you haven't gone back no I've seen a few but um at this point it's been what 8 years

yeah yeah and I don't care and I get it so yeah and you don't like how she's got like a Nokia phone and stuff

you just I can't a lot of the time I can't get past the poor technology. Yeah, that's fair enough. Wow. What a day we're having. Isn't it though? Yeah.

So this is a big episode for us in many ways. Because we're going to talk about pretty much all the comic book movies of this year. I think one of us is going to be talking about most of the comic book movies of this year. My understanding is, and you haven't explicitly stated this, that you have seen very little of these movies. Based on our prior podcasting experience and your experience with me in life in general, would you guess that I've seen

all of the movies on that list or none of the movies on that list? The answer might surprise you. Well, look, I know you've seen at least Man of Steel and Iron Man 3. Uh-huh. So I'm going to say

all. No. Damn it! I've seen some of them, but look... You didn't give me that option! No, no.

I am perfectly happy to listen to them and make value judgments based on nothing. Happy for that. So if you want to lay them on me...

I do. I do. Can I say first, of this list... Are these really, this list you've got here, are these the biggest blockbusters, like the comic book? Are these the best ones of the year? No, they're not. They're just pretty much all of them. Yeah.

Some good, some great, some not so great. Most not great. How many of these did you force yourself to watch? Three. Really? Just three? Yeah. Most not great. How many of these did you force yourself to watch? Three. Really? Yeah. Huh. Yeah.

And how many of those did you regret afterwards? R.I.P.D. Oh, okay. Well, it's a pretty good strike rate. All right, let's get to it. Okay. Also, we're using the best or worst rating system. Our famous rating system.

Our famous rating system. We're famous for it. That's right. Exactly. Which I've also adopted on my YouTube channel. Are people loving it? They do not. Yes. No, are people loving it? they do not yes

it's pretty good so yeah we're going to start off with G.I. Joe Retaliation now this isn't really a comic book movie I don't think G.I. Joe

started as a comic did it? no it started as an action figure line yeah so you know we're still doing it though but you know it's one of those things

where you know it started as an action figure line with the tie-in comic, and the tie-in comic lasted longer than the popularity of the... Like Transformers. Yeah. The Transformers comic book series went, like, years beyond Transformers. It did, yeah. It was a viable thing, and then Transformers just died off, and then...

Beast Wars. Oh, yeah. And everyone went, this is terrible CGI. Yeah. God, it was, wasn't it? It terrible CGI. Yeah. God, it was, wasn't it? It really was. Yeah. Now, you haven't seen this, I assume. That's okay. You never have to see this. Good.

It's highly forgettable. Not as good as the first. Also, I've got trivia for each of these movies. Ooh, I like trivia. So, do you want to hear some trivia? Because otherwise it's just me going thumbs down for an hour. This movie was pushed from July. And I don't think

I could maintain for an hour. Definitely not. Not with that small pilot go game. Now, this was initially pushed from July 2012

to March 2013. That's never a good sign, is it? Well, actually, well, no. But apparently a lot of this had to do with

because, you know, Duke, who's played by Channing Tatum yes he wasn't in it much spoiler alert for everything in this by the way

he dies early on in G.I. Joe 3D Retaliation executive decision style yeah executive decision style he's the Kurt

Russell Steven Seagal Steven Seagal died in that movie yes not Kurt Russell he dies when the stealth fighter

I can never remember which one the stealth fighter listen stop talking the stealth fighter... I can never remember which one of them died. The stealth fighter... Listen! Stop talking! The stealth fighter goes over the jetliner and they put the tube

down in the jetliner and then he's like holding the jetliner and the stealth fighter together and then he's like save the present or whatever it is. It doesn't matter

and then he dies. I mean maybe he's not dead we don't see him hit the ground. I don't think I've actually seen it. I think whenever I think of that movie I think Broken Arrow. Would you watch a short film where Steven Seagal is just falling through the...

He's still falling? Yes! He's still falling from that and it's like 2013? Is he playing his wicked electric guitar? Yes. Is he getting fatter like he has in real life as he falls? Yes, yes. Great.

He seems like a real prick. I don't like to speak badly of anybody I don't know. I don't like to speak ill of the dead. No, he seems like a real prick I don't like to speak badly of anybody I don't like to speak ill of the dead no he seems like a massive prick hmm and I'll say it

to his dumb face huh wow sorry where were we anyway so they they shot some more scenes with him

because Channing Tatum became more bankable because he did Magic Mike Magic Mike I think yeah Magic Mike he did

different audiences though probably he did different audiences that was a good one he did he did Magic Mike I think yeah Magic Mike he did different audiences though probably he did different audiences that was a good one he did he did I did that one with Rachel McAdams

where she loses her memory don't remember it's a romped com yeah and he did like 21 Jump Street so he's covering a lot of demographics

there so they brought him back he's still not into that much but does he still die in it? yeah he still dies but the thing is when he dies you can't it's not not into that much. Does he still die in it? Yeah, he still dies but the thing is when he dies you can't

it's not really clear that he dies because clearly they didn't have him on set for when he dies so you don't really see his body and the Rock's like

no! They're just going to fax the G.I. Joe headquarters. Chatting's dead. Pretty jams. Okay, now this is why I didn't like this movie.

I re-watched my review Who plays Snake Eyes in those movies? Ray Park. Pretty James. Okay, now, this is why I didn't like this movie. Uh-huh, because it's... I re-watched my review. Who plays Snake Eyes in those movies? Ray Park. Huh, there you go. He's great, actually. There's one good scene where... Does he ever take the mask off and he's all scarred up?

There's one really good scene where him and, I think it's Jinx, are on the side of a mountain. They're fighting ninjas on the side of a mountain. It's like a five-minute bit. It's amazing. It's the only good bit in the movie. So I should say it. That bit, watch it on YouTube.

I'm going to write it down yeah but at the end right during the movie London is obliterated it's melted you see it

rise and then fall into the ocean heat ray? yeah laser heat ray nanotechnology? okay right I think it's a laser heat ray of some sort

but I can't remember and then at the end of the movie they're like well done guys you did it everybody gets a medal and I'm sitting there and going of the movie, they're like, well done, guys. You did it. Everybody gets a medal. And I'm sitting there and going, what the fuck is this? Like, nobody did anything.

It should have ended with, okay, guys, put in your paperwork. We'll see you tomorrow. Nobody gets any time off. So that's how that movie ended. You really ruined London. Yeah. It's not. You're really League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, this nation.

So, based on my analysis of this movie and that amazing piece of trivia that I gave you, what best or worst movie ever? I guess best movie ever. Really? No, hang on, let me think. I'm going to give it best movie ever, if only because I've seen a still from that movie, and there's like five different members of the G.I. Joe team and they're all in

different coloured camo like they're power rangers which I think is pretty like they're not all let's all go to the desert we'll put on the desert camo they're just like

let's put on random coloured camo best movie ever. I have to say worse and as much as that pains me because it's it's a cinematic triumph.

Absolutely. Crap. Is there a point where ninjas fight each other on motorcycles? No. I think they do in the first one. Worst movie ever. I've changed my mind. I've changed my mind.

It's not even as good as the first one. Huh. And you know what? I don't think the first one is as bad as everybody says it is. They're like, do it better than that. And they did it worse. So, who cares? Next one.

Mm-hmm. Oblivion. Didn't say it shock isn't it though now this is actually it's not actually a graphic novel

or a comic but it was actually based on a graphic novel by Joseph Kaczynski of Tron Legacy director that was never published is this one of those

Boom Studios ones where they yes I don't know what's a Boom no Boom Studios basically they just develop graphic novels that could

be turned into film properties. Yeah. It might be one of those. It could be. Let's not look it up, though. No, why would we? Yeah. Are we nerds? So, hang on. So, it was a non-published... This is similar to The Fountain. Do you remember The Fountain? Yeah. Yeah, which was Rachel Weisz and Hubert Jackman. Our friend Hubert... Australia's Hubert Jackman.

Do you know, did you hear we're getting him on the show? Wow. We're not. You didn't fall for that, did you? No, you would have put that in news. I would have. You silly sausage. The Fountain, I think, was originally a screenplay that was going to have Brad Pitt and maybe

Angelina Jolie? Something like that. And then they pulled out and so it just, the script disappeared and they decided to turn into a graphic novel and then they got some juice and then Vice and Hubert. Bang.

Yep. Bang. Have you seen that movie? Yes. I've seen a bit of it on a plane. How'd that go? Hugh Jackman was eaten by flowers at the end.

Yeah, that's the one. Does that happen? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. I don't remember loving it. No, it was a bit, it was super vague It wasn't arty enough to be an art film

But it wasn't grounded enough in anything To be an action or a sci-fi film It was just a bit of nothing How was Oblivion? You know what? A lot of people do not like Oblivion I really enjoyed Oblivion Even though it borrows a lot from Moon in particular If you've seen Moon

I've seen Moon I'm several years behind moon I've seen moon yeah it's not as moon's amazing I'm several years behind but I have seen moon yes so in that respect I can understand why people don't like it

it's also a slow burn hang on does it borrow a lot from moon or do you want me to specifically tell you what it borrows is it is somebody a clone of somebody else yeah

yes don't spoil anymore then it's fine I'll watch it later is that does it feel like a deliberate borrow Is somebody a clone of somebody else? Yeah, yes. Don't spoil anymore then, it's fine. I'll watch it later. Does it feel like a deliberate borrow? Does it feel like some sort of parallel thought? Yeah, a little bit, I guess.

But I think I was just so impressed with the world that they created. And it looks amazing. I think that's the same with Tron Legacy. I didn't love Tron Legacy at all. I really did like Tron Legacy. Did you? Yeah, I did. Why are you so down on Tron Legacy? It's dull

it's a bit dull but CGI is so well done in that I'll even say that the original Tron is better than the Tron Legacy

it is not it is not that's your the original Tron is hilarious it is hilarious and everybody's got that kind of

everybody is that sack of sack of mashed potatoes that I mentioned earlier. So in that respect, it is really good. But it's... I mean, it's... I like Tron Legacy. It looked amazing.

Great soundtrack. Jeff Bridges was awesome. Yeah. You didn't like that world. That was an amazing world. Yeah, it was an amazing world, but the movie was not good. It was boring. Also, if you line them up side by side,

Tron and Tron Legacy are beat for beat the same movie. That's actually a really good point. Yeah. Best movie ever still. Anyway, Oblivion. Yeah, look, if you like sci-fi... I do. If you like action...

Yes. If you like twist endings... Ooh! If you like Tom Cruise... If you like Tom Cruise running... Ooh! Then you'll like this movie. I love Mission Impossible 4, therefore I love Tom Cruise running.

I like Mission Impossible 4 also. It was good, yeah. It's the best Mission Impossible. Oh, speaking of Mission Impossible, I've got this here. Mission Impossible 5 has been greenlit. It's coming a week after Star Wars in 2015, which is nearly 20 years after the first. Can you believe that? Wow.

20 years. That's great, though. Yeah. He does look good. He looks incredible. Hollywood. Hollywood. Hollywood magic.

Yeah. A lot of people hate Tom Cruise. What do you think of him? Well, I've never met him. He's a weird, dead-eyed Muppet man. Yeah. But I find him an engaging screen presence. Yeah.

That's your review on the back of the Mission Impossible 4 Blu-ray. Dead-eyed Muppet man. So, yeah. I'm going to say... I heard heard i heard this i think this was just on another podcast so i didn't hear it from anybody who cares yeah but i heard that he like he drives a motorcycle because he's like an american tough guy icon he sure he'll drive up to a he'll drive up to like a hollywood studio for a meeting and he'll park the bike right and following behind will be like a Scientology van full of Scientologists.

And somebody will get, like his minders and his management, somebody will get out. This sounds like the plot of Top Gun. I know, right? Somebody will get out of the van while he's in the meeting and they will turn the motorcycle around so he doesn't have to reverse it out. So he can just front out.

Because that's so uncool. Yeah, I know, to be uncool. Because you have to tap your foot on the... You've got to do that wrong. Roll the motorcycle back and and then turn it, and then it dips a bit and you nearly fall off it. So he has a guy, so he can just walk out of the meeting, get on, start her up, and drive out like a champ.

That's the best. That's living in the real world. It is, isn't it? Oh, wow, that's amazing. That is. You've made my day with that story. It's good. I'm going to say Oblivion, much to people not It's good. I'm going to say Oblivion. Yep. Much to people not particularly liking it.

I'm going to say best movie ever. Good. I've only seen it once, but I really enjoyed it. I concur. Great. Because I love twists and moons. You sure do. Speaking of twists.

Yes. I know you've seen this one. Maybe I haven't, though. Maybe that's the twist that I said I did, but I didn't. Iron Man 3. I've seen it. Now, I'm going to repeat my favourite piece of trivia from this film. We already talked about this in our best and worst movies.

I know what it is and I'm already getting angry, but go ahead. It's basically that Guy Pearce, who plays... That's right, he's Guy Pearce. Wow. You're on thin ice, Pearce. Guy Brush Pearce, you son of a bitch. He gave director Shane Black the idea of the Mandarin twist. Oh, dear.

Worst movie ever. Move on. Unless you have something else. I haven't got any trivia for this, because basically we talk about this quite a lot. Ad nauseum, I would say. It's, we've said this before, it's a good buddy cop movie. Yep. It's not a good Iron Man movie. No. It's not a good Iron Man movie.

No. It's nonsensical. It might, yes. Thrilled with plot holes. Robert Downey Jr.'s great. Yep. Um, the fault with that is definitely the script. Somebody said something about...

The final thing seems good. What is it? Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, It's that one. That's right. They don't use the Iron Man. No, by... Black Sabbath?

Yeah, they don't use that, yeah. Is it Black Sabbath? Yeah, it is Black Sabbath. Yeah, cool. So, yeah, look, a lot of people are saying that it was a big letdown and that the trailer was misleading. They're right. Yeah.

Do you think... I kind of hoped. Because, you know, he's got the army of Iron Mansards. What do they call it? The Iron Legion? Yeah, well, actually, because in do they call the Iron Legion yeah well because in the comics the Iron Legion

was like everybody he'd ever met like all his friends in Iron Man suits and I kind of hope at the end like Jon Favreau

would be in the you know the big the eagle one I hope he would be all his mate like all the supporting characters from like

Iron Man 1 and 2 and the Avengers and they'd all get in one and they'd team up that would have been That would have been... That would have been the best, right? We didn't even give Bro... Not Bro...

Is it Brody? His mate. Don Cheadle. Brody. Brody. I say Brody. God, what's wrong with me? He didn't even get a suit.

He was like, give me a suit. He was like, nah, fuck off. Yeah. And he did. Well, I guess I've been told. So yeah, nonsensical ending. Yep. Yeah, And he did. Yeah. Well, I guess I've been told. So yeah, nonsensical ending.

Yep. Yeah, big letdown. I didn't hate it at the time. The more I think about it, the more I don't like it. It's one of those, it's a slow burn. Yeah. Movies are funny like that, aren't they? Aren't they?

Because I would say our next one is actually the opposite of that for me. I find that with all Mike Myers movies. Like at the time, often I didn't hate them. Yeah. But now that his movie, like everything he's turned out has been terrible. I hate the most recent movies he's produced

but also everything else that came before that. Like I hate the first Austin Powers movies. I have not seen them in a long time. Well me either. But you liked three though

didn't you? No. Nobody liked three. It was so self-referential that movie. God it was not good in any way. Ah whatever.

Who cares? Comedy from the late 90s, early 2000s, all terrible. I remember... I mean, this is a quick sidetrack. In the 90s... We're nothing but a series. That's... Not a series of quick sidetracks.

Yeah, that's true. In the 90s, when I was a kid. Yep. A younger man. Mm-hmm. I remember a lot of... Selling newspapers for a dime at the corner. That was me.

During the Depression. That's it. Yep. But yeah, I remember comedy. Most comedies that came out, I'm like, I hate this. Really? I hated everything. With probably the exception of the Austin Powell movies.

Like, most Adam Sandler, all the Rob Schneider, all the David Spade stuff, whatever. I'm like, what? I'm like, this isn't for me. Like, even as a kid. I'm like, what? I'm like, I don't, this isn't for me. Like, even as a kid, I'm like, this is garbage. Wow. And it was only until Zoolander, and then I went, okay, something funny has finally happened. And I haven't seen Zoolander in a long time.

Maybe it doesn't hold up. But then from that point, I felt like comedy got significantly better. I mean, it ebbs and flows, sure. But, like, it seemed like a lot of good comedies in the 80s, very few in the 90s. And then things kind of got better after the 2000s. Because everyone was just like, you like Adam Sandler, right? And I'm like, no. And then they're like, suck shit, idiot.

And then, like, here's an Adam Sandler movie every year. Good on him. I don't know. He seems like a nice guy or whatever. But, oh, I did not enjoy comedy in the 90s. What about Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore?

I liked Happy Gilmore. Uh-huh, sure. Billy Madison is like, there are, Billy Madison works as a series of skits. Yeah. Of quotable skits.

Yeah, one in four are good. Uh-huh, yeah. I would say. But no. Huh. Like, you know, Meet Joe Dirt. Apparently a lot of people

like that. Weird. Yeah, like Juice Bigelow meet Joe Dirt. Apparently a lot of people like that. Weird. Yeah, like Juice Bigelow. That can't be true. Yeah, people like that. Huh. Yeah, but so, you know, there you go. What do you say to that?

I think you're full of hate. For a very specific era. I don't know why. Well, I stand by those things. And do you think comedies have maintained that high level? No, absolutely not. Where do you think they fell off? I think it was Semi-Pro.

Yep. I was going to say Hangover sequels or around the first Hangover. But yeah, Semi-Pro, yeah. Did you watch Hangover 3? Yeah. Huh. I reviewed it. It's the worst.

I would... See, that's one of the movies that I stuck to my guns. I'm like, after Hangover 2, I'm like, I won't see Hangover 3 unless, like, the first, I hear the first five minutes, like, you see, like, the, you know, it fades in. Yeah. And you see, like, Zach Galifianakis' face. And then it pulls out a little. And you see there's, like, glass in front of his face. Yeah.

And then it pulls out. And he's in, like, a space suit. And it pulls out further and all three of them and they're on the moon and they're like oh we lost Doug again and we're on the moon

like if that happened if I heard that was the first five minutes I would watch it but you haven't seen it no I was going to get angry

if you saw that and none of these other ones well the first five minutes is Zach Galifianakis dad dies and he kills a giraffe on a freeway. Oh, for no reason.

For no reason. And people in the cinema absolutely lost their minds. And how good that was. How good that was. And I'm just like, what am I doing here? Yeah. What have I done? Was it exactly the same, though, as the first two?

It was... Well, yeah, maybe. I don't know. There was a poster for that movie, and Zach Zach Galifianakis being chased by two masked men yep they're not in the film are they I don't know

they're they're apparent they're no because I heard this recently they're a promo for something else and they just put them in the poster

they just put them in the poster they're like a promo for some horror film that's weird I know right it's like when they put that rapper in that

Evanescence song it's just like that. It's exactly like that. Iron Man 3. Worst movie ever. Yeah, I have to say, worst movie ever. Well, next one up. As I said, this for me was a slow burn the opposite way. Huh. Man of Steel.

Yep. What do you think? I enjoyed it a lot. Yeah, and you only saw it recently, didn't you? Very much so. On home video format. Yeah. I got the Betamax. It was on two Betamaxes and I had to swap it in the middle. Wow. You're committed to that dead technology. Well, it's the best!

It's so crisp! So crisp! So many features. Is Betamax one of those things like tape, any tape, where the more you play the more it's the worst? I think so, yeah. It's like more and more and more, and then it gets twisted at one point and then it's all over. And then you pull it out and comically, shh, tape tape, the more you play the more it's the worst. I think so, yeah. It's like, war, war, war, and then it gets twisted at one point and then it's all over. And then you pull it out and comically, shh, tape everywhere, yeah.

Do you ever go to a garage sale? I know you don't. Really? No, I wouldn't. Me neither. I saw one today, and I said, why would anybody do that anymore? Anyway. It's another throwback from the 90s that I hate. Yeah, okay. Hate cast. But, um, this is probably

the most polarising film on the list. It's certainly not perfect. It has a lot of issues. The whole metropolis is destroyed. Yeah. But nobody's killed,

apparently. I thought about it more as well. Oh, dear. The reason why the Avengers destroying the city is okay more is because you see

people like Captain America busting his ass to save people. Like, he's sweating. He's covered in dirt. He gets hit with a handkerchief at some point. Yeah, and he looks like he gets barrelled to save people like he's sweating he's covered in dirt he gets hit with a handkerchief yeah and he looks like

he gets barreled out that window and he's just limping around like this is the worst thing in the world and Superman just kind of

I mean Superman's obviously still struggling but he's just crashing through buildings yeah that's true so I think that's so there you go if they'd added a scene

where it's like because we you don't know what time it's set no like during the day yeah like if they set added a scene where it's like because we you don't know what time it's set no like during the day yeah like if they set it at 6pm

and there's a little scene where everybody gets in the subway and goes out of the city yeah and then the city's destroyed I'd be fine with that yeah or even just a little

little clock somewhere yeah you know they might actually be in that train station at the end mmm okay then I retract my entire argument.

Do you want some trivia on? Yes. Okay. Ben Affleck apparently turned down the chance to direct, among others, but Ben

Affleck of all people. Okay. Yeah. Well, has he done a big action direct before? Well, that's the reason why he didn't do it.

Yeah, yeah. Because he goes, I'm not really familiar with this kind of filmmaking. Yeah, yeah. I think he still would have done a

good job. Yeah, yeah. But then again, visually maybe not so much, but I think he would have made a good movie. And he might have been Superman cursed. Probably not, though. No. he still would have done a good job. Yeah, yeah. But then again, visually maybe not so much, but I think he would have made a good movie. And he might have been Superman cursed.

Probably not, though. It's not a real thing. Here's something that I just found out that I think is really interesting. Is it Bat Kid? Is it a sick child that you're ignoring? Is that what you found out? I found out a friend of mine's got a black heart

just recently. It's you. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. Okay, what did you recently find out? Carol Ferris. Carol Ferris. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Okay, what did you recently find? Carol Ferris. Carol Ferris.

Carol Ferris. Yeah. Now, there's a woman in the movie, you know the one who calls Superman hot? He's like, oh, he's so hot or whatever.

Her name's Carrie Ferris, implying that she is the same Carol Ferris, which implies to me that the Green Lantern is cut from canon. It's that universe

is on its own. Oh, good thinking, DC. Yeah. What do you think? Good. Good. I actually haven't seen Green Lantern

but I heard it was the worst. Yeah, it wasn't good. He's just fighting fog. He's just fighting yellow fog. Also in Arrow the burger joint. Oh, what's it called?

Ah. You can edit this out. Ah. It's the DC. They go to the burger joint. Oh, what's it called? Ah, you can edit this out. Ah, it's the DC, they go to a burger joint in one of the first couple of episodes and it's... I don't remember. Okay, it's like Big Belly Burgers and that's DC's burger joint. There you go. The guys from Hitman always used to go there. Ah, cool. Hitman the video game.

Yes. Yeah, that's what I thought. Continue. There's also a prequel comic about a crashed spaceship on Earth, which turns out to be the Fortress of Solitude. That was from thousands and thousands of years in the past. Uh-huh. Guess who was piloting it?

Brandon Routh? Correct. Really? The actor, no. Okay. Kara Zor-El. Oh, Supergirl. Yeah.

Huh. I mean, that doesn't make them cousins. No, just someone from thousands of years before he was born. Supergirl. Oh, Supergirl. Yeah. Huh. I mean, that doesn't make them cousins. No. Just someone from thousands of years before he was born. Yeah. Unless there was some kind of time rift that Zod and Superman came through. Probably a time rift. Yeah.

I think we can rely on a time rift for this guy. Yeah. So, I thought that was really cool. Also... Where is she now? Well, that's the thing. When he goes to the ship, he sees all these pods with dead Kryptonians in them. Uh-huh.

And there's one that's open and there's nobody in it. Ah. Now, they've said that that might come up later some people thought maybe it's like doomsday

or weapon of some kind or brainiac or whatever I'd say it's most likely if they bring it back Superman's cousin

Supergirl they've done it that's pretty good and she's gone to Earth first that's fun yeah well she was supposed to get to Earth

first wasn't it wasn't that the plan not first she was supposed to get there and look after her baby cousin which got caught

in a time rift time rift there we go time rift so many time rifts ah that might get late to work I got one more

piece of trivia okay for Man of Steel okay Zac Efron was apparently on the short list for Superman doesn't work

and Zod what that one I made up okay good have me for a second ah I guess so yeah he looks good with his shirt off right sure great yep one of the best best of the biz Okay, good. Have me for a second. I guess so. Yeah.

He looks good with his shirt off, right? Sure. Great. Yep. One of the best. Best of the biz. Yeah. Look, I liked it.

I think it's better on repeat viewings. I think it does get less interesting as it goes on. I probably wouldn't watch it again, though. Yeah. I don't think I... No, that's not true. I'd watch it again. Yeah. It's a lot to take in.

It is a lot. It's a digest. It's a big... It's dense it is like spider-man 3 yeah or a cake

like a dense like a real dense cake like a lumberjack cake like a muddy like a muddy mud cake full of kryptonite so yeah anything else you want to say

about man of steel um you're obviously looking forward to the follow-up. Yes. I still reckon there's a good chance they'll fuck it up. Yeah, definitely, yeah. But, um. I mean, there's never.

Because they very, really train wrecked Man of Steel. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And, I mean, you've always had that rule. There's never been a good. There's never been a good threequel, right? There's never been a great threequel. Toy Story 3. Oh, yeah, okay, right. Return of the Kid. Well, then your rule is. Return of the Kid. No, it's on par, right? There's never been a great threequel. Toy Story 3. Oh, yeah, okay, right.

Return of the Kid. Well, then your rule is... Return of the Kid. No, it's on par, right? Okay, fair enough. It's fine, yeah. They're all kind of the same, really. Yeah.

Level of quality. Iron Man 3. See, there you go. Back to the Future 3. Yeah. That's the worst one. Exactly. Love Story, Doc Brown.

Get out of here. Time Travelling Train. As if. That's the worst one. Exactly. Love story, Doc Brown. Get out of here. Time traveling train. As if. That train still holds up. Yeah. It's from like 1991. It looks incredible still. Anyway, so best movie ever, worst movie ever.

What were we talking about again? Man of Steel 3. No. Man of Steel 3. Oh, then best movie ever. Yeah. Look, initially I would have said worst movie ever. Not that I didn't enjoy the cinema idea, but now I'm going to say it was tentatively best

movie ever. We've got it. Yeah. Yeah, good. Next one. Take that to the internet. You pack of dickheads. Nah, you're alright.

Next one. Thanks for listening. Red 2 fell asleep during Red 1 okay well I haven't seen

Red 2 either oh well what did you even put it on the list we're gonna talk about it anyway okay good I got a bunch of stuff this week that I didn't watch

right this being one of them so you acquired it legitimately yeah of course but you haven't gotten to it yet nah because you're too busy

watching all the other stuff you've acquired legitimately exactly right I'm so legit yeah um I'll give you one piece of trivia Yeah, of course. But you haven't gotten to it yet. No. Because you're too busy watching all the other stuff you've acquired legitimately. Exactly. Right. I'm so legit. Yeah. I'll give you one piece of trivia and then we'll name it worst movie ever made. Is it Helen Mirren related?

No. Okay, I can give you one of that though. Anthony Hopkins and... Still pretty hot, Helen Mirren. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, yeah. Jesus. Helen Mirren, Anthony Hopkins reunite after they did the Hitchcock movie.

There you go. There's a trivia for you. There you go. On the top of my head. Amazing. after they did the Hitchcock movie. There you go. There's a trivia for you. There you go.

On the top of my head. Amazing. That also reunites, for the first time, Sir Anthony Hopkins and Katharizita Jones, for the first time since Mask of Zorro. Wait, is that the original or the sequel? Original. So it was Mask of Zorro, then Mark of Zorro.

I think the second one's called Legend of Zorro. Is it? Or the other way around. Maybe Mark of Zorro was the think the second one's called Legend of Zorro. Is it? Or the other way around. Maybe Mark of Zorro was the one from back in the day. And Mask of Zorro. I don't know. I think it's Mask of Legend.

We've already devoted far too much time. Why don't we talk about the Billy's Own Phantom movie? That'll waste some more time. That'll get us over the hour. Yeah, we'll want it. So, yeah.

I was going to say. You know the thing about Catherine Zeta-Jones is she's still pretty hot, right? Yeah. She's not Helen Mirren, but sure. No, God, no. Now, back in the 90s. The decade you hated, sure. The decade I hated.

Remember when her and Michael Douglas got together and everyone went, this is absolute horse shit. She's like the hottest woman on the planet. How did this old, like, this bag of bones get her? They're broken up now. That recently happened you notice there was a there was a few

it was like this is outrageous and then she kind of hit like 35-40 and everyone went ah who cares sure yeah well it's the expiration date

yeah sad though it is yeah and wrong though it is you just and then the media doesn't care anymore yeah that's it

yeah oh well sad truths here's here's the next one. R.I.P.D. I'm going to surprise you here. Didn't say it.

Why would I have seen it? I didn't see Men in Black 3. Why would I say R.I.P.D.? I saw Men in Black 3. The poor man's Men in Black 3. I watched that this week. You know what's funny? I want to say I watched it.

I choked it down. Yeah. It's not the worst movie ever. Like a jagged little pill. Just like that. know, it's funny. I want to say watch. I mean, I choked it down. Yeah. But it's not the worst movie ever. Like a jagged little pill. Just like that. Now, it's funny. I had a copy of this or that and a copy of The Internship. And I knew that I was doing this podcast

and I nearly just watched The Internship. I nearly went, I'd rather watch The Internship which I don't want to watch. That's a big call. Yeah. Wow. But the only reason if I wasn't doing this, I would have watched The Internship. Wow. So now look, I don't want to watch. That's a big call. Yeah. Wow. But the only reason, if I wasn't doing this, I would have watched The Internship. Wow.

So, now look, I don't really have, I don't think I've got much trivia for this. I don't think I've bothered to collect any. The thing about this movie is the creature special effects

don't look great in it because there's all sorts of monsters and I think they call them deados or something. Right. Everything else looks super expensive.

How do you mean? Like what? There's a bit where there's tornadoes in the sky and there's buildings crashing and whatever. It looks amazing. Yeah. And I just... This bombed in a big way. So for a movie about the undead, the undead don't look very good.

No. But everything else... Do you think maybe they should have... If there was a tornado, maybe they should have made a movie about tornadoes. That might have been...

That probably would have been a better option. You know what? If they made a movie purely about tornadoes, everybody would see that. No. Twister.

Yeah, but that's it. Everybody loves those disaster movies. We're going to see another one, though. Yeah. Look, the aunt he's been up. Sharknado.

Yeah. You've got to beat that. You's been upped. Sharknado. Yeah. You've got to beat that. You know what the problem with Sharknado is? What's that? You can't make something... Unrealistic? That's fine. I think there's a lot of realistic physics in that.

There's a bit where a guy jumps through a shark with a chainsaw. Oh, yeah. You can't make something intentionally B-movie. Hmm. It doesn't work like that. That's what the problem with death proof and that. You can't be like, oh, look, it's a throwback or whatever. You have to accidentally make something that's horrible and the best.

You can't just go out of your way to make the dumbest thing ever. It doesn't work like that. Yeah, see, I don't know. I think the asylum that makes all those Sharknado kind of films, then they don't have a blockbuster budget. No. And they're kind of, you know, intending to make it look better. Like, I think they have a rule where they do a maximum of know intending to make it look better like I think

they have a rule where they do a maximum of two takes of any scene so I think they are right on the cusp like the thing about

I would have liked to see with the Grindhouse movies I would have liked to have seen Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez give themselves

a B-movie budget and see what they could have done with it as opposed to giving themselves X million million dollars and then make it give themselves a B-movie budget and see what they could have done with it. As opposed to giving themselves X million, million dollars. And then make it look grainy. And then make it look grainy and weird cuts and weird edits and, you know, flaws in the celluloid or whatever

that they've digitally inserted to make it look B-movie. You know, they CGI'd the leg, you know. Yeah, exactly. To make it look, you know. We saw them on DVD, didn't we? Yeah, when we used to hide DVDs like idiots. Like idiots. But Blockbuster went under this week completely as well.

The whole thing? The whole thing. Done. Wow. Good. A friend of mine works at Blockbuster. Good. Do you mean American Blockbuster?

Yeah, I think so. Okay, right. Then he'll be fine. Roland, if you're listening, my heart's there for you, buddy. Continue. Is he a good guy? Yeah, he's alright. I don't trust him.

Okay, well done. Yeah, and I remember because it was two movies put together as one. Yep. And then it tanked in the US. So before they put it out here they went,

we're in trouble here. We're going to lose all our money. They split it into two. And I went, you lost me. Yeah. Fuck you. No, not watching it.

And they cut out all the fake movie trailers and stuff like that. Yeah, like the Machete. Yeah. Which I've never seen. You've seen Machete? No. Yeah watching it. And they cut out all the fake movie trailers. Yeah, like the Machete. Which I've never seen. Have you seen Machete? No. Anyway, getting back to this.

On IMDb, where I went to look for trivia, but I got as far as this. People who liked this liked Cop Out. You've lost me. And Paul Blart Mall Cop. Wow. We're still talking about Red 2. RIPD. RIPD. No, okay Red 2. R.I.P.D. R.I.P.D.

No, okay, right. You see, I completely blanked. Also, this is the fourth... I was going to say, because maybe the love... Because I thought maybe people loved Bruce Willis so much that they were willing to jump from Red 2. Bruce Willis has been phoning it in since the 90s. Correct.

Except for Looper. And that's it. Yeah, I think that was just creative editing. Yeah, probably, yeah. Because he seems like... That scene in the diner, he's clearly still phoning it in. Yeah. Because he's like, I could talk to you about time travel, but then we'd just be two guys

in a diner talking about time travel. Yes, exactly you would. That'd be good, actually. You didn't like Looper? No. Really? Yeah, I didn't like Looper. Wow.

Because it doesn't make any sense. And you know what? People will come at you. I'll come at you. I'm fond of... really? yeah I didn't like Looper wow because it doesn't make any sense and you know what people will come at you I'll come at you I'm fond of it's people

Looper here's the thing about Looper here's the thing about Looper look firstly okay so hey let's say you really liked mystery films

you like whodunits yep and you do yep and at the end you're watching a whodunit and at the end of the movie, they were like,

the cop's like, and the killer was the butler. And you thought to yourself, the killer couldn't have been the butler because he was in the room with all the other houseguests as the murder was taking place. And you express that opinion to someone

and they're like, you're an idiot because that film looked really good and the action scenes were good and it was tense and it was really well acted. So, having that opinion, you're an idiot. Like, that's Looper.

Because you'd be like, okay, Looper doesn't make any sense. And they'd be like, yeah, but the action's good, and the performances are good, and the special effects are good. So, how about you shut up? Because, like, I'm expecting a logical conclusion. There isn't one. Yeah, I think they managed to get around that by that very dinosaur you were talking about. By the way, don't think about it.

Don't think about it. Shut up. If you think about it, you're some sort of nerd in a diner. We don't like that. But I mean, like... And a lot of people will go, you said time travel can't exist.

No, I'm not saying time travel can't exist. I'm saying that they used... How dare you suggest time travel. Sorry. I'm sorry I suggested that. Haven't you ever seen one of the Star Treks I can't think of? Star Trek 4. Yep. Where they go back to the 80s, your favourite decade.

Nah, 80s are worse than the 90s. Anyway, but the thing about Looper is that time travel aside, let's say even assuming that the time travel... Let's say the time travel worked, logically, but it doesn't because they want to have it both ways. Yep.

It doesn't make sense for Loopers to even exist. Because if you can get Bruce Willis, if you can time travel him back from Shanghai to Kansas like 30 years back in time... That's in space. Time and space. Yeah.

Surely you could get Bruce Willis from Shanghai to a volcano. Like an active volcano. And you wouldn't need loopers, would you? This has been discussed ad nauseum on the internet anyway. But you could just send him to a volcano. You wouldn't have to send a mob back in time. You wouldn't have to give unstable, drug-addicted individuals in the past guns

and weird missions to kill themselves. Why send back the Looper to kill himself? Send it to another Looper and they'd never know. That's true. I've got another floor in logic in that movie for you, even though I enjoyed that movie quite a bit. Is it Bruce Willis' hair in the future? That's amazing. So floppy.

There's that scene where it's like, it's Joseph Gordon Leavitt, Joseph Gordon Leavitt with longer hair, Bruce Willis with Joseph Gordon Leavitt's hair with a receding hairline, Bruce Willis with Joseph Gordon Levitt's hair, with a receding hairline. Yeah. Bruce Willis. Yeah. Like, that's him in the future.

Boy, I lost all his hair all of a sudden, didn't I? It just all came out in the shower. Jesus. You know in the future you can't commit a murder because of DNA and whatever. Yeah. They bust into his house and shoot his wife. Exactly.

Yeah, see, that's the thing. Here's another thing. This has become Lupercast. It doesn't matter. The thing of it is, is that in this future, apparently, if you murder somebody, the future cops will immediately find you. But if you abduct a series of people and take them... Like, if black-cloaked men in big floppy hats abduct a series of people and then take them all to a warehouse from which they never return. Nobody says anything.

Like, how do they miss that? And in fact, somebody, I think this was an interview post. And the thing is, I actually really like Rian Johnson. I like Brick. I like Brothers Bloom. I thought they were both great. What was the one he did before that? Brothers Bloom.

No, he did another one. Oh, before Brick. Brick? Yeah, maybe it was Brick. Is it Brick? Maybe I'm thinking of Brick, yeah. Yeah, it's Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Yeah.

The school one. Yeah. Did you do another one? No, you're thinking of brick yeah Joseph Gordon-Levitt the school one did you know another one no you're thinking of brick anyway where was I oh yeah

going back floppy hats yeah so floppy hats and I think he had to say a blog post he had to write a blog post

that said something along the lines of well in the future everybody's got nanotechnology in their blood so if they die it sends out a signal

to the authorities so you can time travel them and nothing happens but if you kill them the nanotechnology tells the police and first of all if you have to go

to a blog post to explain your film you've failed and two wouldn't it be easier to just hack the nanotechnology than to develop

time travel or to I'm going to say no alright you good point sorry the internet I apologise for hating Looper the thing about Looper to develop time travel. I'm going to say no. Alright, you good point. Sorry the internet. I apologise for hating Looper. The thing about Looper is I never thought about it.

So, you're absolutely right. You've never thought about any aspect of Looper? No. Well, that's how they get you. I just read that was something different. Yeah.

At least it wasn't. But that's what I'm saying. I like sci-fi films and I even enjoy sci-fi films that don't make any sense. But I think inherently a time travel film has to have some logical loop to it.

Well, any time travel movie has flaws, with the exception of Back to the Future 3. Yeah, which is the best one. Anyway, Looper, worst movie ever, R.I.P.D. Are we still talking about that? Yes. Zach Galifianakis was going to be Jeff Bridges' character. Oh, I would have watched it then.

I would have watched the hell out of that. Not that I don't love Jeff Bridges, but I mean, what's he doing in that? You know, a lot of Jeff Bridges in there, you can't understand him either. He's like... Because he's got the giant beard? And he's got the bane mask. You haven't seen it. No, I haven't.

No, he's got a wet sock in his mouth. Worst movie ever. Worst movie ever. There we go. I'm going to say Looper, best movie ever. Worst movie ever. There we go. I'm going to say Looper best movie ever. Wow. You really Looped.

I don't hate it but I mean I do have a lot of opinions. Also with the nanotechnology let's say if you blink out through time right the nanotechnology would also indicate

that you're gone. Unless it works through time in which case it would blink out when you're killed in the past. It would wouldn't it? Yeah. It's true.

Two oh no not two guys. Also the thing about the thing about Looper is and when we're talking about the past. It would, wouldn't it? Yeah, it's true. Two, no, not two guns. Also, the thing about Looper is, and I said I wasn't going to talk about the actual logic of the time travel, but I'm going to, evidently, that when somebody's future loop escapes, like when a Looper's loop escapes into the past...

When they loop the loop. Yeah, when they loop the loop, as they say in the film, you can't then kill the past self, because that apparently would destroy the timeline. Yes. Because remember that guy, Paul Dano? His future self comes to an end.

Yeah, yeah. They can't kill Paul Dano. But what they can do, apparently, is abduct him and cut off all his arms and legs until the future self is so disabled... And then put Dano technology in him? Yeah, I guess so. So the future self is so disabled that he can't And then put nanotechnology in him? Yeah, I guess so. So the future self

was so disabled that he has no choice but to come in and then they kill him. But that would logically that line of killing him and mutilating

irreversibly that would only make sense if you then reattached all the past version's limbs and then said

hey, don't mention this to anyone. Just keep it on the low, low and everything will be fine. Also, telekinesis for no reason. Oh yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Ugh. Worst movie ever, Looper?

Worst movie ever, yeah. I'm repeating, worst movie ever. I'm going to say Looper is the worst movie ever this year. Wow. Even though it didn't come out this year. Because it looped. Yeah, because it looped all the way around to this podcast. Next up. Yes. The Wolverine. Best movie ever looped all the way around to this podcast. Next up.

Yes. The Wolverine. Best movie ever. Wow. Straight up. Yeah, straight up. Good fun. This actually started out as a prequel to the X-Men trilogy.

I'm trivying this, by the way. You're trivying the hell out of this. I sure am. It's got to start out as a prequel, but they changed it to a sequel. I think wisely. So they didn't have to shoehorn into all that X-Men canon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. wisely so they didn't have to shoehorn into all that X-Men canon. And also they wanted to explore the idea of the burden of immortality.

And having a little robotic squid on your heart. In one of the post-credits sequences of Origins, he goes to Japan. And he's wearing the flowery shirt. We got that one in Australia, didn't we? Or did we get the Deadpool one?

No, we got that one. In America, they got them randomly, and we got Japan exclusively. Yeah. We had to watch the Deadpool one on YouTube or whatever. And did we ever? Legitimately. Yeah, because, like, historically,

Wolverine went before... He was in Japan before he joined the X-Men. So, yeah. I mean, they could still explore that at some point, sure. Nah. Nah, why would they? Why would they, exactly, yeah. I mean, they could still explore that at some point, sure. Nah. Nah, why would they? Why would they, exactly, yeah. Well, look, it was apparently good enough to warrant another Wolverine film.

Ooh, a threequel. Same. We talked about this last week, didn't we? Probably. Yeah. I lose track. Yeah. I forget as soon as we've stopped recording.

So, I think it was a pretty successful movie. To be honest, I liked The Wolverine. I don't think it took that many chances, but I think that was probably more now to the studio than the director. I think it's a solid Wolverine movie. It's a solid X-Men movie. It's a solid action movie. It's pretty good. I enjoyed the fact that he wasn't so vulnerable anymore.

I think that really ramped up the action for me. Absolutely. You know what? I'd like to see them take his... Because he'll be involved more again in the next what? I'd like to see them take his... Because he'll be involved in war again in the next one. I'd like to see them take that down so if he gets shot, riddled with bullets, he's out for a bit. Yeah, yeah.

He doesn't bounce up straight away or anything like that. I've asked this before, and maybe we know at this point, does he get the adamantine claws back in future past? Well, you know what? Because he's had a bit of a disadvantage going into the past with no adamantine claws. No, and he's still got the skeleton. Oh, no, he doesn't because it's in his mind. He doesn't have the skeleton in the past.

He's got the skeleton in the future with no claws. Oh, okay, right, right, right. But what I think is going to happen, he's going to go back and he's going to go, I need to, I'm going to get killed here. I'm not killed, but hurt. And he's going to go into the Weapon X program and go, do this thing to me quickly. Oh, okay, right, right, right. I'd love to see that.

Just him busted. Yeah, there's a guy and he's like holding two adamantium pipes, like adamantium feeder pipes with all the liquid adamantium, and he's above a rabbit. He's just a rabbit on the table and he's like, all right, there we go, let's try it on this guy. All right. Yeah, because I think you need to see his claws back. Yeah, definitely.

Yeah. Also, another bit of trivia for that. Wolverine at the start when he's drinking with the bear. Uh-huh. He's drinking Stanley, Stan Lee whiskey. Very clever.

You like that? Yep. Does Stan Lee get a cameo in the Wolverine account? No, that is his cameo. Oh, actually, he's in the bear suit. Oh, okay. Really good action sequence

in that movie. That train scene's amazing. Yep. There's the one with the ninjas. Oh, good. Really good action sequence in that movie. That train scene's amazing. Yep. There's the, the one with the ninjas. The one with the ninjas, I think they cut a lot out of it because,

you know, it was going to be an R-rated, there is an R-rated cut. Ooh. I think they're, it might be out on DVD or it's out soon where there's a lot more blood

apparently. Free on the internet. Free on the internet to people who would do that. And, yeah, so apparently there's an R-rated cut

that's coming out or out there already with more blood. Like that ninja scene I think had more blood because you notice he just hacks through a lot of people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no blood at all. Yeah. Which is what World War Z was. And there's a lot of dubbing where one guy's like,

are you alright? And the other guy's like, I'm alright. They used to do that in the A-Team. I know, right? Like any time like a jeep would crash they couldn't show anybody die so one guy would be like, you okay? And the other guy's like, I'm alright. They used to do that in the A-Team. I know, right? Like, any time a Jeep would crash, they couldn't show anybody die.

So, one guy would be like, you okay? And the other guy would be like, I'm fine. I'm just real tired now. Don't want to... I'll just stop here. From all this being crushed by this car. Yeah. I'm so tired.

Yeah. I thought it was good. Best movie ever. I'd say best movie ever. Would you obviously still like to see Wolverine back in the Marvel Universe? Yes. I want to see Old Man Logan. I don't want to see it yet because I can't do it with any of the other Marvel characters.

Correct. So don't do it yet because you need Hawkeye. You can do Captain America with flashbacks. You can use the Iron Man suit. There's a whole lot of stuff that you can use if they're all together, but they're not. So don't do it unless you can get the rights. All right, fine, I won't. Jesus.

Yeah. You went all looper on me there. I sure did. Yeah. Next up, Two Guns. Have you seen this one? No. Have you seen it?

No. I didn't even know it was based on a comic book. There you go. Well, there's going to be a sequel. Is it a Boom Studios release? Yep. Great. I had no idea.

I've never heard of that. Who knows? I've got a bit of trivia for you. I'm ready. Shipped under the codename Dual Action. Because, you know, a lot of people would have tried to steal that. They would have. I would have just...

I can just see myself... Remember we planned that heist? Yeah, we planned that train heist. Yeah, to just... Oh, I heard Two Guns was coming out. Denzel Washington and Warburg? Warburg. Grace!

Let's steal it. No. Yeah. Apparently it's okay. I saw the trailer, it looked alright. I'll watch it at some point. But, um... I didn't bother to get a copy of it this week

because I thought that you would have definitely seen it. I didn't think that. No, what? If you thought that you would have definitely seen it. I didn't think that. No, you didn't. If you thought that, you're an idiot. You're an idiot of looperian proportions. That's some idiot who likes a looper. That's how big an idiot you are. All right, so I guess worst movie ever?

Yeah, worst movie ever, definitely, yeah. Done. Next up. Oh, like Danza Washington's in it. I like his stuff. Best movie ever. All right, I agree. Yeah, yeah, cool.

Here's something for you. Marky Mark, when he was a kid, in his teens or early 20s, he blinded a Korean man with a stick in a fight, in a racially attacked and racially motivated incident. Wow. No wonder he's a celebrity. I love it. He doesn't let anyone stand in his way of being a celebrity. Not even a...

Not even an aged man. An aged Asian man. Isn't that amazing that you could do that and then continue to have a career? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, in my profession, karate instructor, if I blinded an Asian man again... With a karate kick. Yeah. Which is quite likely.

I'd be out. Yeah. There's a lot of things you can't have with a criminal record. And that's just... Anyway. Yeah. I guess you can... I guess there's no justice.

Unless you're Marky Mark and or his funky bunch. Yeah. He was in jail for a little bit, apparently. Cool. Too handsome. That would have been it, yeah. Next up, Kick-Ass 2. You loved it.

No, I didn't. We talked about it last week. I didn't love it, though. Next up, Kick-Ass 2. You loved it. No, I didn't. We talked about it last week. I didn't love it, though. So I'm just drinking water. It's getting hot. We're around an hour. We've got a fair few to go. No, no, like three or four.

Or three or two. Well, guess what? I'm going to... We're going to not have a lot of... I'll start again. It's okay. I don't have a lot to talk about well you did talk

about it last week you said there was a contradiction between I've been about all the remaining movies you said there was

a contradiction about Kick-Ass about the cheerleader thing and how they're like oh it's kind of subverting sexualisation

or whatever and then they're like tits how do you like that yeah you do oh yeah no it's oh I don't like it of subverting sexualization or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And then they're like, tits. How do you like that? Yeah, you do. Oh, yeah. No, it's, oh, I don't like it.

I enjoyed Kick-Ass. I thought it was a fun romp. It didn't go down well with critics, but I think fans thought it was pretty good, except for

you. Then again, the Kick-Ass 2 comic isn't, it's not brilliant. It's okay. Better than the first one?

No. Not as good. Okay. I don't think so. Jim Carrey. You know what? I've been down on the Kick-Ass movies ever since the end of the first one no not as good okay I don't think so Jim Carrey you know what I've been down on the kick-ass movies

ever since the end of the first one where he gets that like they deviate from the comics yeah but he buys like a jetpack with machine guns

off the internet like what also yeah because the the kick-ass universe is this really odd combination of like sort of

post-ironic. Yeah. But also really, really sincere. Like, there's all, like, hey, they did that in Spider-Man. Like, where, you know, that's a comic, but this is real life. But then every five, every ten minutes in Kick-Ass 2, there was, like, a real heartfelt conversation between two people. And they had that music. It was like, you have to stop doing that.

And they're like, but I have to be who I am. And they're like, but your father said to stop doing it. Your father said, but I am that person. But maybe I'm not that person anymore. It was that. I was doing the music. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it.

It was really distracting. You're right. And then flipping on a van. Yeah, yeah. Boy falls into a shark tank. Yeah. Whatever, whatever. I appreciate it. It was really distracting. You're right. And then flipping on a van. Yeah, yeah. Boy falls into a shark tank. Yeah. Whatever, whatever. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Worst movie ever. I'm going to say best movie ever. Huh. For what reason? I liked it. It's not enough of a reason. You've liked a lot of things that were no good.

I thought it was fun. Whatever. You're right, though, because it's like, this is the real world. This ain't your grandpappy's. You won't see any Stan Lee cameos in this. But it's the most non-copybook supposedly. It's the most colourful. It's the most bizarrely Technicolor. Yeah. Jim Carey though, Carey Carey, whatever he calls himself. Yep. He only actually is in that movie for 7 minutes and 45 seconds. Huh. He seems like a lot though, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah.

And apparently he brought his own props to look more like the character. Also, a few years ago on Conan, he dressed up as one of the characters. It was either Kick-Ass, I think it might have been Kick-Ass, or Conan dressed up as Kick-Ass, whatever, because he was such a big fan. And then later, after he filmed the movie, you probably heard this. He decided it. He refused to promote it. He goes, I don't agree with guns and violence.

Does he not understand anything at all? No, because he's super rich and a little bit celebrity. Has he got somebody to turn around

his motorcycle? I imagine so, yeah. Probably got somebody to turn around his hang glider. Isn't that weird though? You know what you're

walking into. Yeah, but celebrities do that all the time. They're not the smartest people in the world. No, we are.

Yeah, we are the smartest people in the world. No, we are. Yeah, we are the smartest people in the world. That's why we do a podcast. So yeah, worst movie ever for you. Best movie ever for me. Because I liked it. We're split down the middle.

Yeah, we sure are. Next one. Jobs. Trivia. Boy, doesn't Ashton Kutcher look like Steve Jobs. That's a fake one. What are you doing?

It's not a comic book movie. Just padding it out. Oh, good. Did you see Jobs? It's not a comic book movie. Just padding it out. Oh, good. Did you see Jobs? No. Apparently it's the worst. Yeah, look, I had my fill with Social Network. Oh, yeah.

That's enough of those. Apparently it's not good. That's enough of the technology biography movies. I'm fine. You don't want to see the Google movie? Google movie? I don't know. I bet there's a pack.

I'm not going to see the internship. Oh, yeah, there is. Wow. Yeah, you idiot. Holy shit. Yeah. Completely blank. Yeah. So, did you end up seeing the internship? Oh, there is? Wow. Yeah, you idiot. Holy shit. Yeah. Completely blank. Yeah.

So did you end up seeing the internship? No. I watched it this week. No, don't watch it. I'll get back to you next week. Why would you watch it? For the podcast. Ugh.

Why can't it be? See, it feels so... The fact that it isn't just a weird... It isn't a technology company that appears to be Google. It's clearly Google that said, hey, we want a movie franchise of some sort, and we want the hottest comedy duo of 2009 to be in it. So we'll get... Oh, it's a 2004.

Yeah, you're probably right there. Yeah. Yeah. I was very generous there. You know the problem with... Oh, not the problem. I like Ogden Wilson. I think he's a pretty funny dude.

Ever since he had that attempted suicide, when he's wacky and whatever, I'm like, you must be really sad. And it makes me feel sad. I think you're right. Which takes me out of the movie. Tears of a clown when there's no one around. That's right. I know a guy who went to clown school in France.

True story. I know several people who went to clown school. Oh, well. I've beaten your little story, haven't I? How do you like that? And to be honest, I don't really know my guy that well. There you go. All right. We'll have a clown school off later. Yep. On Mike be honest, I don't really know my guy that well. There you go.

All right. We'll have a clown school off later. Yep. On Mike. So Jobs, best movie ever? No, worst movie ever. Oh. Yeah.

Social networking, blog, Facebook movie. Best movie ever? Best movie ever because Justin Timberlake's in it and he's like a billion dollars. Remember that bit? I do. Yeah, that was good. Next up. Now, I don't think

this one really counts but I've decided to put it in anyway. Great. I didn't put it in Star Trek because Star Trek isn't originally

based on a comic but neither is this. Okay, good. But then again, this medium probably exists more in comics and video games than it does in movies

at this point. Yeah, and this guy talks about Dungeons and Dragons a lot. So I think it kind of... We're of course talking about... Couldn't think of

anything else to say so I'll just say it. Riddick. Riddick. Talking about Riddick. Oh, yep. You didn't say it, did you? No, I saw it with you.

Oh, wow. We were in the cinema together. Was that me and my brother and you? Yes. Yeah. Cool. Yes. Yeah, what did you think of it?

It was pretty good. Me too. I liked it. Did you like it better than the last one, Chronicles of Riddick? I've only seen it once but I kind of really liked the last one because it was so

ridiculous it was wasn't it ridiculous seriously though it was silly it was a silly film but just the underbursts and the

whole cult of dead worshippers and the fact that he had magic powers but in this one he doesn't have magic powers remember at the last one he had magic powers but in this one he doesn't have magic powers. Remember at the last one he could shoot energy

out of himself? Remember that? Could he? Yeah, he had that energy blast because he was half that weird alien. Yeah, half Furion. Or he is Furion.

Yeah. Then he could blast an energy blast. It was rumoured though that this one was going to be all energy blasts all the time. Two hours of energy blasts. There is that movie.

It's called Push. Oh, right. I haven't seen it. Chris Evans. But no, this one was going to follow R All energy blasts all the time. Two hours of energy blasts. There is that movie. It's called Push. Oh, right. I haven't seen it. Chris Evans. But no, this one was going to follow Riddick into the Underbirth to find Kyra, I think her name is, the girl from the other ones.

Yeah. That didn't happen. Judy Dench. Judy Dench. I think that didn't happen because that would have cost a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Massive budget cut on this one.

But I think they did the right thing. They did it in Vin Diesel's backyard. Set it on a desert. Get a space dog. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty much everything. I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it.

I think... There was a lot... I think an odd point of that movie is there was a lot made of Starbuck. What's her name? Star Buckington. Yeah, Star Buckington. Katie Sackhoff. Yeah, Katie Sackhoff being a lesbian.

Yeah. And then he's like, I'm going to have sex with you at the end of this. And she's like, oh, yeah, I guess so. You said it. So here we go. That's how lesbianism works, apparently. Yep. Yep.

You just got to really want it. Is that it? It's like the secret. You just put your desire out into the world and it comes to get you. Yeah, look, I like the way he, I like it got back to basics. I loved, and I think I really liked the opening. I think it's maybe even be like it got back to basics, Hal. I loved... And I think I really liked the opening. I think it's maybe even be like 40 minutes when he's just on the planet

and he's just working everything out. Like he fixes his leg and he goes into the pool of water and the dog... Meets a friendly dog. Meets a friendly dog and he tries out the poison and he kills the scorpions or whatever

and he's seeing how everything works. And that was an... I could have watched the whole movie of that. I thought it was a bit long. Really? Yeah. Wow. And people say, oh, movies, people complain about movies being long these days, but you'll

watch five episodes of Breaking Bad in a row. I will. Yeah. Here's the thing, though. Breaking Bad, if you want to go off and do something else, you can just pause it. Yeah. Movie that... Two and a half hours, three hours at a cinema, that's a harrowing experience.

That is. That's a rule of the rings. Because you're there with people you don't know, and they're all idiots, and they smell weird. I want to talk about allocated seating. Sticky floors, allocated seating. This is what I want to say about allocated seating. I'm ready.

Everything now is allocated seating, even the worst cinemas. Yep. In Australia anyway, or where we are. Yeah. It annoys me. I want to sit where I want okay if I see a movie

by myself which I've started doing more because of more reviews and whatever and because of your terrible personalities

and I'm so lonely it's pushing all your friends away sure yeah but you go in and then you have to be like

where do you want to sit and I'm like just don't sit me next to anybody yeah yeah you know it's fine

you know what everybody wants to sit in the middle towards the back yeah that's the thing you don't have to next to anybody yeah yeah you know it's fine you know what everybody wants to sit in the middle towards the back yeah that's the thing you don't have to ask I'd rather sit to the side

by myself than sit in the middle with even one seat between me and another guy because I don't want to hear your thoughts I don't want to hear you eating I don't want to

who do you hear thoughts like to people really close to you they should make a movie about you just me in cinemas just being angry yeah shut up just shut your thoughts up close to you. They should make a movie about you. Just me and cinema just being angry. Yeah. Shut up! Shut your thoughts up! It's just one shot of you and you're just seething and you just hear thoughts floating around.

I saw Gravity and there was a bit where... I know, I was there. Were you? Yes. Oh, wow. You're an idiot. I really am. We saw that together. Do we? Wait, I actually don't know. I'm sorry. You're an idiot. I really am. We saw that together. Do we? Wait, I actually don't know. I'm sorry.

You know what? We probably did. But you were there, and maybe you didn't hear this, but the person next to me said, spoiler out for gravity. At the end, she goes into the water, and a frog swims past. And a person goes, what's a frog doing in the ocean? First of all, you're a fucking idiot. That's a lake. Frogs live in lakes.

And even if it wasn't a lake, shut up. Then he goes, or it might have been a different person said, you know when she's in a spacesuit and she's trying to get out and she's trying to swim and it's too heavy? Yeah. He goes, no, the spacesuit's too heavy. Shut the fuck up. Shut up. That's true, yeah.

I don't care what you think. Yep. I have my problems with gravity as well, but I'm not going to get into it. See, and when you're in your own home, and somebody says something like that, you can be like, mum, get out. Get out of my house. I don't want to invite you over. Just so you're clear, I'm sorry if I'm clouded by mum.

I just want to specify that. I'm a homeowner. You are, that's true. So I just wanted to make that clear. But yeah, so allocated seating though yep and when and when you go in and especially this happens in a packed theater you go in and there's a row of idiots in your seat yep and you go excuse me row of idiots you're in my seat and they go oh but there's a guy in my seat and then i have to go yeah but if i sit somewhere else

then i'm you because someone's going to come up to me and I have to have this exact conversation get the fuck out yeah I'm more polite generally you're not though but that's just that really annoys me let me sit where I want yeah

normally I wait until the curtain goes down or whatever or the lights go off and then I move anyway yeah but you know what it should be a free for all

yeah it should be who out there write in listeners who likes allocated seating tweet at James. Don't tweet at me. Mr. Sunday Movies. On Twitter.

Tweet at him. Tell him you like allocated seating. Tell him in all caps how much you love allocated seating. Because there must be people out there. I'm sure there is. As long as they wouldn't have done it. I'm sure there is. And look, nah.

Yeah. Anyway. What were we talking about? Riddick. Here we go. Too long. Yeah? Got to pee. Allocated seating. You don't want to sit in. yeah anyway what were we talking about Riddick um here we go two more yeah gotta pee allocated seating

you don't want to sit in you know what I've all the the last ten movies I've seen have all been really tense

towards the end because I've had to pee because I've bought I really I'm embracing this because I don't see as many movies these days I'm embracing the cinema experience

I get the big popcorn I get a choc the cinema experience. We get the big popcorn. We get a choc-top ice cream. I get the big Coca-Cola. And boy, do I regret it every single time. See, I make sure if you guys are in before, I don't drink anything. Because otherwise I'll have to get up and go to the toilet. Oh, I understand. Yeah.

I don't need to expressly explain that. No. No, we'll put it on the site. No, it's cool. So yeah, there you go. Vin Diesel. Oh, so that amps up the tension in you for movies. So you enjoy movies more.

No, yeah, yeah, I guess so, yeah. I really enjoy those post-credits sequences, I tell you what. Whew! Oof! Does everything need a post-credits sequence also? It's like calling for an encore at a gig, like a music gig. Yeah. It's going to happen now.

Yeah, it is. There's no way out anymore. Here's one more bit of Riddick trivia. Okay. Riddick, Riddick, Riddick trivia.

Riddick trivia. Vindic... Riddickvia. Riddickvia. That's right. That's where I'm going to retire. That's the Eastern European nation I'm going to retire to

when I'm older. Riddickvia. I bet there's a lot of really skinny prostitutes there. Oh, boy. Skinny Eastern European. Skinny and pale. Yeah, definitely. Okay.

Vin Diesel agreed to cameo. Burkote. Short shorts. Sort of like. Vin Diesel agreed to cameo in Tokyo Drift for the Riddick rights from Universal. Huh. So then he could then independently produce them. And they gave it away for a cameo.

Well, yeah. Of course. Yeah, that makes sense. It's a massive franchise produce them. And they gave it away for a cameo. Well, yeah. Of course. Yeah, that makes sense. It's a massive franchise for them. You mean Fast and Furious? Yeah. Riddick, they're like, take it.

We sunk $120 million into Chronicles of Riddick or whatever it was and it tanked. That's pretty amazing that they would give it away like that. Yeah.

There you go. Yeah, yeah. Next movie. This is actually the last one. That's like a that's like a old school Hollywood deal

it is they're like you can have it if you tap dance for us at the show and he's like alright

tap dance for us at the Follies you know you see yeah was that a gag no it is it's all fine

cool best movie ever worst movie ever too long worst movie ever really yeah okay ever Too long Worst movie ever Really Yeah Okay

I'm going to say Best movie ever Alright Thor The Dark World We talked about this At length A couple weeks ago Do you want some trivia

I guess You did cut one movie out What What happened to Bullet to the Head Oh crap I did That was at the very start Yeah

Bullet to the Head Because I didn't see it Here's the thing though I know it's Sylvester Stallone And I didn't see it. Here's the thing though. I know it's Sylvester Stallone and I didn't hear anything about it. Well, it came out in like February or whatever it was, but March.

I was still listening and watching things in February. You were a living, breathing human being then. Yeah, exactly. Well, I didn't see it in the movies. I was in Redictvia, sure. I was scoping out Redictvia as future retirement locations,

but do you think Sylvester Stallone can still carry a movie by himself? No. Because Expendables, I think he's up the ante with Expendables, or he's found his new level with Expendables. He needs a whole team of has-been, 90s, your favourite decade action heroes all put together to sell a movie. I don't think on his own.

He's Steven Seagal-ing it right he's on his way down he absolutely is yeah because I had no idea this movie even existed yeah well that's the thing

he can't carry a movie and I'll tell you why it looks straight to David A. it does did it get a cinema release here I'm pretty sure it did wow I didn't see it at cinema

it's not that bad even in his movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger Lock Out or Lock In or We're in a Prison whatever it's called he's got two prison movies. Pop and Lock.

He's got Tango and Cash. Sure. And he's got Lock Out. You know what? And now Lock Out. It never struck me. I watched a little bit of Tango and Cash a little while ago. That movie's been out for decades.

It never struck me. There's a line in it where he goes, Rambo is a pussy. And it never struck me that he was Rambo. It never did. Because of acting. Because of acting and little glasses. He was wearing a suit. He was never struck me that he was Rambo. It never did. Because of acting. Because of acting in little glasses. He was like a stockbroker cop. Yeah, he was a stockbroker cop.

And it never... Because he's so good at acting. I never put those faces together. So kudos to you, Sylvester Sloan. I'm sorry you have to be a crap-like bullet to the head. It may be good. I don't even know. It's fine.

It's actually not that bad. Do you want some... It's based on the French graphic novel. I'm going to attempt this. You ready? Dylan Dog. Remember Dylan Dog? It's Italian.

Yeah, we watched that, didn't we? Yeah, we watched Dylan Dog. Crap fest. Oddly charming. Continue. Duplomb dans la tête. So, bullet to the head. Yes.

Right. Is there anything worse than an Australian man attempting French accents? No. It's the worst accent Australian accent's got to be. What do you think of it? What's it about? Okay, he's a hitman and he teams up with a cop

and it's the Han from Fast and Furious and the cop's like, I'm going to arrest you Stallone because you're a hitman. And he's like, we have to work together, cop. And then they work together. And bullet to the head. It sounds like something Jason Statham would knock back. Yeah. Did he in fact knock it back? Do you have that trivia there? Sure. Probably did, yeah. Yeah, it's fine. I've just written here, it's fine. Yeah, okay, good. Fantastic. Worst movie ever, though. Yeah, it has to be worst movie ever, yeah.

Alright, we're back to Thor, though. Oh, what do you think? Worst movie ever, though. Yeah, it has to be worst movie ever, yeah. We're back to Thor, though. Oh, what do you think? Worst movie ever. Darn. Yeah. Did you see the Stallone... Not Stallone. The Schwarzenegger solo movie, The Last Stand? No. He's a...

Like a... Sack of potatoes? He's a sack of potatoes, yeah. But he's got the brown kind of... Yeah. He's a sheriff of some sort? Yeah, he's a sheriff. He's got the hat?

Yeah. That's alright. I'd say they're about on par. I can't... No. Again, tanked. Can't carry a movie. Exactly, yeah.

That's the thing though, right? And then you put Stallone and Schwarzenegger together for like a lockout, all the expendables or whatever. You're too late. Yeah. You're too late. You should have done it mid-90s. You're too late.

Nobody cares. That would have sold. Can you imagine? That would have ended movies. Yeah. People would have been like, well, why bother even making any more movies because all the greatest movie stars have teamed up. Yeah. All the most powerful movie stars have teamed movies. People would have been like, well, why bother even making any more movies because all the greatest movie stars have teamed up. All the most powerful movie

stars have teamed up. Just catchphrases flying. Everybody will remember all their catchphrases. Like Van Damme would add a catchphrase. And that's what they did in Expendables 2. And by then, who cares? Seagal would have been like, I'm just a cook. People would have stood up in their chairs and just standing ovation. They would have just put like a black screen and like a 10 minute countdown timer. Because they knew there would have been a standing ovation for Steven Seagal saying I'm just a cook. And people would have just applauded and then the movie would have continued after 10 minutes. And then, new 10 minute timer. Then Stallone says, stop or my mom will shoot.

Have you ever seen that movie? Yes. Stop, yeah? What's it like? Stop or my mom will shoot. Have you ever seen that movie? Yes. Stop or my mom will shoot. It's the 80s, man. Or the early 90s, I don't know. That's another reason why the 90s weren't so good either. Because they wouldn't give us things like that. Now they're like, you want all the Avengers together?

Done. You like Superman punching guys through buildings? Done. In the 90s they're like, we're developing a Superman film. Okay, Tim Burton's doing it're developing a Superman film. Okay. Tim Burton's doing it. No. That's not good.

Don't do that. Okay, we won't. Yeah. And it's just a whole lot of potential projects and things that never happened. If they did got made, that would have been the worst. A lot of 90s action movies are terrible

with the exception of Speed, with the exception of Die Hard 3, with the exception of The Matrix. There might be a few others. True Lies. Yeah. Okay, fair point. That's of The Matrix. There might be a few others. True Lies. Yeah, okay, fair point. That's it. Yeah.

I'm sure there's more. Don't email me in with those. No, do. Definitely email them in. Okay. Thor The Dark World. This one's running a little longer, guys. I apologise.

We've got a lot of stuff, but that's fine. Yeah. Because, you know. We can cut out all the movies I didn't see. I'm not going to do that. No, don't. Some people in the comments don't like that. It's probably just one do that. No, don't. Some people in the comments don't like that.

It's probably just one guy. He's like, how could you not have seen every movie that's at the cinema? How could you call yourself a podcast? It's a really good point. I'm going to leap out this window.

This 15 story window. I'm just going to leap out of it. So yeah. Because I'm not, we aren't the same person. We don't run into exactly the same. But I get the same kind of things, though.

Like, if I, you know... Last week I said... Here's a list of movies that I haven't seen that people consider classics. Labyrinth. Top Gun. Titanic. Bullet to the Head.

Bullet to the Head. I've never seen Godfather 2. Huh, that's the best one. You know what I've never seen? Evil Dead Trilogy. I've seen the new one. I've got it. I've got to, that's the best one. You know what I've never seen? Evil Dead Trilogy. I've seen the new one. I've got it. I've got to watch it.

There you go. Godfather 3, haven't seen it. Godfather 4, The Quickening. Godfather 5, The Next Godfather with Hilary Swank. Godfather, what am I up to? Godfather 6, still Godfather-ing. Godfather 7, Mission to Moscow. Godfather 8, still Godfather-ing. Godfather 7. Mission to Moscow.

Godfather 8, Mega Shark versus the Godfather. That's it. That's all I have. All right. For the Dark World, legitimately,

we're treading so much water. Just say best I saw it. It was great. We did it last week. We did it like a

week ago, right? I'll give you a little bit of trivia. Joss Whedon was brought in to rewrite some scenes including Thor's confrontation with the stone monster and Loki changing into Captain America.

Cool? Great. Good. Tom Hiddleston put on the Captain America suit first, did his Captain America impersonation, then Chris Evans did an impersonation of Tom Hiddleston's impersonation of him acting. That's great. Yep. Yep.

Now, look, there was also a lot of improv allowed on set, such as, and this was in IMDb where I got this from, such as Kat Dennings calling Eric Selvig banana balls. And they put that in. Great. They cut out Malekith's backstory about his dead family and a whole bunch of other stuff. They kept that in. Banana balls. They could have really cut out a lot of Kat Dennings from that movie, though.

Why would you? Because it adds nothing. She's great though. Really? She's very pretty. I don't care. Alright, fine. You know what?

I bet if you've seen Two Broke Girls you wouldn't say that. No, it's probably true. I haven't seen Two Broke Girls. Okay, best movie ever then? Yeah, best movie ever. Yeah.

If you want to hear more of our thoughts on that we've talked about it for like 40 minutes in another podcast. So go listen to that with spoilers though yeah

so many spoilers big time big time but I mean it's been out for a week and why haven't you seen Thor it's been out for a week

why haven't you seen every movie that's been out for two seconds last week as well I said you know what generally the comments

are really really nice people are really great though I said last week I said I said fuck art I specifically said, I said, fuck art. I specifically said... Right? I don't know if you remember.

But a guy in the comments... I don't, but that's great. And God bless him. Good on him. He goes, um, how can you say that you fuck art? Comic books are art. Like, I'm obviously joking. Comic books are fart, am I right?

Up top. Yeah. How do you like that, that guy? Why don't you to do some art when are you going to tell me the difference between Monet and Manet

you prick no I'm kidding this podcast has gotten very loose it has hasn't it we've gone mad with power yeah

there's a very small number of people listening to it but I apologise to that guy for saying I don't about art he's got his fingers crossed listeners he doesn't believe that at all listen to it. But I apologise to that guy for saying that. I don't.

He's got his fingers crossed, listeners. He doesn't believe that at all. Okay, what was your favourite movie of the year? I got two.

What do you think? Of these, not of the year. Okay, um, Thor was good. Yep. Did you say top two? I've got top two.

You can say one or two. Or say all. Yeah. Give me the list again. Alright. I'm going from the start. Alright. No, just show me the list.

Fine. My favourite was the Doctor Who 50th Anniversary short. No, that's not right. I'm going to say Thor The Dark World and

Man of Steel. I'm on the same page. That is exactly what I said. And I came to Man of Steel after a long period of time, but I enjoyed it. You know, both of them, the world's at stake.

Yep. A lot of action, a lot of good special effects. One's very serious, one's a little bit silly. Gotta balance that out. Have we proven definitively that you can like both DC and Marvel? Yeah. Good. Yeah, it's good, yeah.

So that's pretty much it. There's also, there's another comic book movie that's pretty much it There's also There's another comic book movie That's coming out At various points in time This year It's called Blue is the Warmest Colour

And it's based on The French graphic novel I'm gonna This sounds like A lot of that art That you have A very strong opinion on But feel free

To continue It's called Le Bleu Est Un Couleur Chaud Right Australian accent Great Now apparently It's called Le Bleu, It's Un Couleur Chaud. Right.

Australian accent. Great. Now, apparently it's an amazing graphic novel and an amazing movie. It's the story of two young French girls in love, and apparently it's amazing. It's not going to be out here until 2014, but it's scattered release date throughout the year. So we can get it off the internet. Yes. Legitimately. Very soon.

Okay, good. Also, according to its director, and this is a very French thing to say, so get ready for this. Don't hate the French either, by the way. Don't do it in the accent either, because it's very offensive. Can I do my New York accent? No! Don't do any accents! And take the berry off, for God's sakes.

He said, this film should not go out, because it's sullied. That's what he said. No context for that? No, I didn't look it up. And he's the director? Yeah. Huh. That is a very French thing to say.

Yeah. If I may generalise for a minute. I like the French. I think the French get a bad rap. They do. I've been to France. I've also been to France. Yeah, and I thought they were quite nice.

Did you go for clown school? Yeah, I had to. Oh, okay, right. They were nothing but nice to us. In preparation for this podcast, I went to clown school. So, was there any speculation as to what that meant? Look, I'm sure it was because there was some kind of edit

or something. I don't know. I'm not going to go into it because I don't care. But I am going to say that movie. I read a couple

of reviews and it looks pretty good. Okay so if you're a listener at home or at work or wherever you're listening to this maybe on the

train, the tube, the New York Underground. Is that what that's called? That's the one. If you're on the New York Underground

just turn to the person next to you and just push them really hard. Yeah, do that. Oh, it'd be pretty exciting, wouldn't it? What's your least and most favourite? Say it's a flashmob taking place. What's

your least and most favourite? Oh, you know what'll happen? Is there'll be like two people sitting next to each other and they'll just shove each other and they'll fall in love. We did that, James. We made that happen. Because they both have things in common but they didn't know until the show. And they're both listening at exactly the same time.

Yes, yes, yes. Because they're that much in tune. Oh my goodness. Yeah. The universes of a line. So yeah, let us know via Twitter. Ooh.

I'm at week... No, sorry. You can let us know by Weekly Planet Pod which is on Twitter or Facebook page. Correct. Wikipedia Brown, which is you. That's me. Mr. Sunday Mov Pod, which is on Twitter or Facebook page. Correct. Wikipedia Brown, which is you.

That's me. Mr. Sunday Movies, which is me. What your favourite CBM of the year is. Comic book movie of the year. I would genuinely like to know where people stand with everything. Maybe we've missed one. We probably have. We've probably, we've almost certainly missed a really good one.

It's probably a really obvious one that we missed. Like there was a Batman film that we missed. There was a Batman film that we missed, yes. Okay, yeah. But next week we're talking the Doctor Who 50th anniversary special, The Day of the Doctor. Great. I really want other Doctor cameos in it.

I'm hoping there's going to be because it's Matt Smith and David Tennant and the dude from Alien. I heard nobody... You mean Paul Reiser? Yeah. He's just mad about the Doctor. Listen, I heard that nobody, none of the other Doctors have been contacted. Well, that's what Paul McGann said.

Yeah, sneaky, sneaky. And they're always torch-witting up the film canisters, aren't they? So nobody can steal them. Two-gun style. So maybe you're right. Maybe everybody gets a... Maybe all the... You know what?

I'm 100% on board. I'm not a Doctor Who fan necessarily, but if they got all the living Doctors and they put them together and they all teamed up to save the universe, that would be the best. That would be the best, yeah. I'm hoping for that.

Yep. Do I finally get to say my opinions about Doctor Who on the internet? Put them on the internet. Oh, this is going to be good. This is going to be great. We're also going to be talking The Hunger Games Catching Fire sequel

so I'll break that into two parts are you looking forward to that? yes have it been called The Empire Strikes Back of Hunger Games movies?

by you? no yes just now exactly that's what people have said apparently it's amazing

I'm looking forward to good action I'm looking forward to good performances I'm looking forward to facial hair like weird facial hair I'm looking forward to Woodley

Harrison having a great wig. Because he had a great wig in that last one, didn't he? He did, didn't he? Apparently it leaves the first one in its dust. The wig? Yes. His wig is just magic. It's like sunshine and happiness. Wow, okay, I'm on board. It's just horse hair though.

But what a horse though. What an amazing stallion they got it from they probably got it from Seabiscuit I bet they did never saw that Toby Maguire

what a way to end I know right don't end with a bang I say end with a whimper that's the podcast way yeah so also if you do have

a theme song email us in if I guess if you want or don't it's fine if you can beat the one we got I don't know

give it a whirl though yeah alright thanks guys thanks for listening bye bye