The Weekly Planet - 83 Everything Mad Max, Civil War & Suicide Squad

Episode Date: May 11, 2015

This week on the show this is we talk the new Civil War line-up, Suicide Squad, comic book TV Shows getting re-newed and a potential Boba Fett spin-off.Plus we get into the first three Mad Max films a...nd how most of them aren't very good. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com where we talk movies, comics, TV shows, sports, friendships, tea cozies. Correct. Those are the only things. There we go, yes. Some of them aren't even things we talk about. We've never talked about friendship. This is a friendship-free zone.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Absolutely it is. It's called show business, not show friends. Exactly. And one day we'll be in show business. It's not the show friends. It's not the show friends. Certainly not, no. Do you think friends is better than how I met your mother?
Starting point is 00:00:45 Where is she? No. There she is. You know, you always forget to introduce us if you know oh sorry my name is james it's you know what because you're messing with the formula i'm sorry you're messing with success you've gone mad with not power indifference indifference some sort of brain injury you've suffered that you've not told me about. Mr. Sunday Movies. Yeah. Nick Mason. Correct. Both of us. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:07 All right. Let's get into it. Okay. You happy? No. I want to start again, but we have a no start again policy. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Do you know ABC renewed a couple of popular Marvel shows? Agent Carter. It's coming back. Oh, it is coming back. That's good. Yeah, it's good. It was kind of, it wasn't touch and go, but they just didn't say anything about it for a while i think it was supposed to be a once-off or might have been and agents agents of shield is back for season three will be apparently it's good you know what though i think i've realized the pattern
Starting point is 00:01:44 yes people say it's good whenever a movie comes out like it's good now because it's good you know what though i think i've realized the pattern yes people say it's good whenever a movie comes out like it's good now because it's the movies and then there's like 14 episodes of nothing yeah exactly there's 14 episodes of people running around office buildings and like old ships or whatever yeah but you know it's great if you like it that's good and if a lot of people are really happy it's coming back, including you. No. Oh. That wasn't an enthusiasm cough.
Starting point is 00:02:09 No, no. Look, I've got a lot of coughs. Yes. And I understand sometimes it's difficult to discern an enthusiasm cough from an indifference cough. Sure. That was an indifference cough. So, is enthusiasm like, Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Okay. Like that. Gotcha. But that spin-off, I guess, good good news for you then that spin-off show they were threatening oh yes it's not happening okay they nipped that in the bud that was the um mocking jay and her british friend mocking bird i'm sorry yeah mocking jay's that other thing so yeah great it's not happening which i think is wise because they're they're like i think they're good in that show or whatever from what i've seen to. And the last thing you want to do is take something out of that show
Starting point is 00:02:46 that's good. Totally, yeah. Just leave it with the absolute bare minimum. Yeah, exactly. So that's good. A lot of people are very happy. Constantine has been cancelled, which is not really a surprise because it wasn't rating too well.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Interpret this one. That was a genuine cough. Yeah, that was an actual, yeah, I'm quite ill. Yeah. Oh, wait, and also, I've never seen an episode of Constantine.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Oh, it's the first one. I didn't mind it. Great. Yeah, but look, if it comes back, I might check it out, but if not, maybe not. But there was also plans
Starting point is 00:03:15 that Arrow was going to cross over with it, even though it was a different network. So Supergirl's happening. It's all happening. Oh, sure. It definitely sounds like
Starting point is 00:03:23 it's all happening. It is, isn't it? And DC's, the Flash and Arrow's new spin-off series dc's legends of tomorrow has a title and the title is legends of tomorrow dc's legends of tomorrow tomorrow so when are they going to reveal the title that's the title oh great fantastic which is d DC's Legends of Tomorrow. Love it. Today. Oh, okay. So it's like Adam.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Who hasn't shrunk yet? No, not yet. Is he going to shrink at any point? I think they're going to get him to crouch in a box. That's just as good. Or a cupboard. Great, sure. Black Cadary, but the original one.
Starting point is 00:04:01 The two Flash villains. He's not dead for some reason. Yeah, exactly. Oh, they've got the Lazarus Pit now. Oh, yeah. The two Flash villains. She's not dead for some reason. Yeah, exactly. Oh, they've got the Lazarus pit now. The two Flash villains like Fire and Iceman. The guy who can literally go on fire and fly around. Fireboy. Firestorm. Yeah, Firestorm. All these guys.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Great. Yeah, you know, could be good. Love it. Yeah. It's all building towards a big shared TV universe that people seem to enjoy more than the movies. D-listers of tomorrow. Here it comes. Here it comes. No, but you know, you've been watching The Flash? No. It's been really good.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I've fallen off all of them again. Really? Okay, that's all right. They had Grodd last week. Oh. He looked pretty good. Was he telepathic? Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Was he a big talking monkey? Gorilla, Mason. That's racist. Correct. There we go. That was a test and he passed the test. Yeah, it wasn't bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 It was actually like for TV. Did he talk in a pompous British accent? No, he was like like for TV. Are you talking a pompous British accent? No, he was like, like that. Huh. Just for the whole episode? The whole episode. Even when he wasn't on screen.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Not on screen. You could just hear him. They're in Star Labs. They're trying to explain some technical thing and you just hear, just down the hall. Grod! And this is the actors are like,
Starting point is 00:05:05 run the line again. Yeah, so that's all good news, I guess, as far as TV goes. Yeah, look, I'm not on board 100% with all these things, but the more that they put out there, the better chance that they produce something good. Exactly, yeah. And I really liked Agent Carter.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah, exactly. There we go. So that something good. Exactly, yeah. And I really liked Agent Carter. Yeah, exactly. There we go. So that's good. Suicide Squad. That was like way earlier in the week. This was right after we finished recording the last episode, I think. We should probably talk about it. The full cast photo was tweeted by the director.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Twetted. It was twoten. It was twoten. It was. So we have... I know you're a big costumes man. Okay, so this has probably been exhaustively examined before this very moment. By people better than us.
Starting point is 00:05:50 By people better than us who know what they're talking about. Okay, I have absolutely no idea who the first guy on the left is, so I'm assuming that he is some cannon fodder they've invented. No, he's got like a rope. He's like a noose... Oh, he's got a name. What do they think? He's like a noose-related villain.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Oh, noose-related man. Yeah, that's right i can't remember his name all right like garrotte or something like that something like that because we've got captain boomerang um he looks certainly looks like a tough guy that's great he's got mutton chops you can't really see it in the photo but he has that's sweet okay that's well that's pass how australian does he look he doesn't look super australian he looks more like a zombie yeah this is kind of a low-res photo yeah you've got enchantress yep zombies who looks more like a swamp witch yep uh katana looks great i think she's in arrow did you know no i didn't know you know the guy who he's friends
Starting point is 00:06:34 with who's in the league the guy with the ponytail the asian guy with the ponytail yes his wife is katana she just put on a costume last week and i was like didn't know that didn't make that connection yeah exactly uh rick flag looks like a man he does he looks good he looks like what's in her costume last week and I was like, didn't know that. Didn't make that connection. Yeah, exactly. Rick Flag looks like a man. He does. He looks good. He looks like, what's his face?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Fast and Furious guy. Okay. Paul Walker. Paul Walker's brother. We'll get to Harley Quinn in a second. Yep. Oh, Harley Quinn. I just got it.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Sorry. Amazing. You're going to go from the other side? Yeah, okay. That's El Diablo, I guess. I'm far right. Killer Croc. Yep. Biggest name, Will guess. I'm far right. Killer Croc.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yep. Biggest name, Will Smith. Yep. Okay, here's the thing. The costume looks good. There's been shots of him with the mask. Yeah. And they look pretty good.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah. Right here, though, unmasked, he looks... Will Smith here looks very reminiscent of his character in Pursuit of Happiness. Just like a middle-aged dad he looks worried he does he's just kind of he's got his ears poking out there i don't know he's do you think he's ears are too pokey out for no hair yeah like sometimes you got to grow that hair out a bit to kind of kind of cover your pokey out ears yeah yeah we've all been there yeah sure uh yeah so i don't know with the mask it looks good though yeah i don't know. With the mask, it looks good though.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yeah, I don't know. And in motion, I'm sure it'll be fine. Yeah, I'm sure. But they have chosen, he is the saddest dead shot. Yeah, he really is. Well, they're going to make him
Starting point is 00:07:52 a fallen hero or tragic whatever. Oh, no wonder it looks so sad. But you know, in one of the pictures, the one that they put out with his mask on, he's holding his gun right-handed, but the eyesight thing
Starting point is 00:08:03 is on the left. Does that make sense? Hang on, let me think. Yeah, because... So if he's holding his gun right-handed, but the eyesight thing is on the left. Does that make sense? Hang on, let me think. Yeah. So if he's holding it like that, he has to put it on the opposite eye instead of this eye. Everyone at home can see that, right? Oh, I see what you're saying. Is that what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:16 I would assume that he fires it like Hollywood style, like under the arm. From the hip. Yeah, from the hip. So he's pointing to the left and his eyes pointing to the right so they meet in the middle see what i'm saying hollywood style hollywood style yeah yeah exactly and harley quinn in the middle it's similar to the um the joker reveal okay yeah like it's a read it's another uh harley quinn redesign yeah yeah what do you what do you think about it it's all right okay great yeah it's a i don't know it do you think about it? It's all right. Okay, great. Yeah. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I don't know. It's a little bit, I mean, it's all low res and not moving. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. There's a,
Starting point is 00:08:49 there's some better shots of it, like on set shots and stuff like that. Um, to be honest, I'm not really, I don't even think this is like the best background to shoot this on. And it's not like a really great quality photo. Is anyone in favor of this?
Starting point is 00:09:01 I think people are. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I'm like, honestly, I'm okay with it. I just, I think, I guess as well with a lot of this this i think people are yeah yeah look i'm like honestly i'm okay with it i just
Starting point is 00:09:05 i think i guess as well with a lot of this because they're not massive names named heroes as well i guess i'm like i don't really care about what's the guy on the end el diablo and whatever right exactly so yeah but no generally it's it's fine whatever okay what about yeah again it's yeah it's fine i'm glad we devoted this much time to this. Certainly. I'm not against it. Yeah. No, look, I'm hoping it's going to be really, really good. Somebody emailed and I can't remember who and thought,
Starting point is 00:09:34 do you think this is going to be a better movie than Batman v Superman? Impossible to say at this point. No. I'm going to say no. Okay, fair enough. I'm going to say I don't know. Great. Anything else to say? That's what people tune in for, I feel feel i feel like this is such a long time ago that i'm like i don't even remember
Starting point is 00:09:49 what i thought initially yeah but no look it's coming along that's good things are happening in the world other than this also like this is happening but give me an example of another thing happening in the world try and think of another thing happening in the world you just said something today is mother's Day in Australia. Did you treat your mother to anything? No, I've been at work. In her face. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Exactly. And I'll tell her so when I see her. Eventually. Yeah, yeah. All right, cool. We've got some casting for Civil War. The roster lineup has been announced. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:21 As of so far. First of all, it's filming in IMAX, the whole thing. All of it. it's filming in IMAX, the whole thing. All of it. It's pretty exciting. So we've got Captain America, Tony Stark, Black Widow, Bucky Barnes, Falcon, Vision, Black Panther, Hawkeye, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, Agent 13, Martin Freeman in an undisclosed role. The Hobbit. The Hobbit.
Starting point is 00:10:42 General Ross from The Hulk. Yeah, okay. He's back. Well, you heard. There you go. I know, right? Crossbones The Hobbit. General Ross from The Hulk. Yeah, okay. He's back. Well, you heard. There you go. I know, right? Crossbones and Zemo. There's probably some others.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Big lineup. That is a big lineup, yeah. Some say too big. Some say lineup. The actual word lineup. They just say the word lineup. Correct. Just on a street corner or something?
Starting point is 00:10:59 Just on a street corner. Bloody lineup. Yeah. What do you think of that? Maybe teachers would say that? They would say that. Bloody lineup, mate. Yeah. That's how they say it, right Line Up. Yeah. What do you think of that? Maybe teachers would say that? They would say that. Bloody Line Up, mate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 That's how they say it, right? Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? Pretty good, yeah. Okay. It's very Avengers-y, isn't it? It's very Avengers-y.
Starting point is 00:11:13 No Thor, no Hulk. Is it the same actor who played Agent 13 in Witcher Soldier? It is, yeah. Revenge. I don't know what her name is. Emily Van... Something? Revenge.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Emily Van Revenge. Revenge actually got cancelled I wasn't sure whether to bring it up I wasn't I wasn't going to bring it up you've made a terrible mistake now
Starting point is 00:11:30 now you've ruined it what no that's fine did she get enough revenge in the show Revenge I didn't watch Revenge because initially
Starting point is 00:11:37 she was getting revenge oh yes and maybe she got revenge this is just what I've seen from the ads I've never watched an episode and then someone get and then but then she realized it's maybe the wrong revenge. Oh, so she was getting the wrong revenge on somebody who didn't deserve the revenge.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Or maybe there was somebody behind the revenge. Okay, so the initial person deserved revenge. Yeah. But there was a bigger fish who deserved more fish-based revenge. Exactly. And then one of those people retaliated and got revenge on her. And then I think it ended with her again getting revenge on whoever re-revenged her. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:12:10 So does that make sense? Look, I think everyone got a good solid amount of revenge again. Did everyone get a hefty dose? Everyone got a hefty dose. Yeah, exactly. Oh, which reminds me. Gotham spoiler alert. I haven't been watching Gotham.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah. That's not the spoiler. But somebody sent me a clip. Yeah. The penguin kills fish Mooney. Yes. I bloody called it. But she only fell into the water.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I bloody called it. But you said- She's not coming back. I reckon she might. Somebody's going to say it next episode, I assume. I hope somebody says it. The fish got fed to the penguin. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Good point. It is still time, isn't it? Yeah. Look, I think to the penguin. Oh, yeah. Good point. There's still time, isn't there? Yeah. Look, I think because she fell in water, she might come back. I'm not saying she will, but I'm saying that's not a definitive death in a comic book world. Absolutely not. No. You can be eaten by sharks and come back.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah, exactly. Whenever somebody falls off a cliff and, you know, whenever you don't see the body, even if you do see the body. Yeah, exactly. Irrelevant. Yeah. So that's good. Yeah, exactly. Irrelevant. Yeah. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Anyway, Civil War. Looks great. I'm excited. Do you think General Russell turned into the Red Hulk? I don't think so. I don't think they're going to go down that road. Rolk. Rolk.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Do you think he... He didn't like being the Red Hulk, did he? Because he was like, this is my nightmare. Well, his moustache disappeared. Yeah. And he lived for that moustache. Does it grow in? I don't know. It's never explained. It explained it should that's why the twist never worked like when they revealed that the red hulk was general ross people were like where did his mustache go yeah because if they
Starting point is 00:13:33 did him with the mustache you'd be like oh it's general ross clearly exactly yeah isn't he intelligent yeah and he gets hotter that's correct as he gets angrier yes and more intelligent so if he's furiously reading a book, he gets hotter. Correct. And he burns the book to a crisp, which only makes him madder and hotter. So watch out, libraries. Yeah, great. The Rogue Cut was announced for X-Men Days of Future Past.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Oh, yes. Got an extra 10, 15 minutes, I assume. It's going to be out July 14. And all the Rogue scenes that were cut out from Days of Future Past have been put back in using modern editing techniques to create a fuller and richer X-Men experience. Just a really harangued, stressed, sweaty guy and one of those green dealer's vices.
Starting point is 00:14:21 He's got a big set of shears and he's like, oh, Stan Lee's going to kill me. Oh, God. And he's just snipping away. That's the modern technology you're talking about, right? That's exactly what I'm talking about, yeah. So, are you excited for that? Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Are you excited to watch those clips on YouTube? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's probably what I'll do. We will do a Days of Future Past commentary at some point, probably closer. Will we use the original version of the road cut? That's the question.
Starting point is 00:14:42 That remains to be seen, doesn't it? Mm-hmm. Well, if you buy the steel book, then we'll get it. We version of the road cut. That's the question. That remains to be seen, doesn't it? Well, if you buy the steelbook, then we'll get it. We'll get the steelbook. But yeah, July 14. Look out for it, Mason. I will.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You know how you were wanting a new Indiana Jones movie? No, I've never said that. I've said retroactively destroy it, the last one, and erase it from my mind with like an ice pick. Okay. Or like a big set of shears just just lean me towards that guy who's frantically editing stab stabbed yeah great anyway something about yeah well it was confirmed by kathleen kennedy who runs lucasfilm that though there's no
Starting point is 00:15:18 scripts yet and no confirmed release date they're like yeah we're talking about it it's happening we'd like to make more money. So, sure. And that's our number one priority. So, yeah. We're just fine. When people get upset about, movies are making money. Yes. That is what they are for.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Some making money movies are better than others, though. Correct. And that's what's important. And family, I guess. Sure. Mother's Day. Yeah. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I'm assuming they're going to recast, right? Yeah, he's done, right? Surely he's... Maybe we'll see how he does in bloody Star Wars, mate. But is there any chance that he could put in such a stellar performance that you want to see Indiana Jones in the 1980s? Because that's how old he would be now. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Not the 80s, maybe the 60s. Yeah. What do you think? I don't understand. Like, he doesn't have any vitality left. No. At all. No.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But, I don't know. I just don't know. Yeah, so recast that, I guess. Yeah. Or just don't make any more. How's he going to push a man into the blades of a propeller? That's a good question. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:24 He'd probably need help. Probably pin him under his bloody Zimmer frame, all right? Very good. What were you going to say? I was going to say, how's he going to put things in a museum where they belong? I don't think he does that that much, though. No, he really doesn't. I mean, he says it.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And then he just destroys a lot of things and then they go into a government warehouse. Yeah. You're right, yeah, yeah. He's a terrible professor slash archaeologist slash dad he's a terrible dad i didn't even think about that yeah great anyway it's been strongly rumored they're making a boba fett film that is the next spin-off after rogue one shot the tranks out we talked about that last week he's he got tranked he got tranked he tranked himself. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, and they're saying that, well, I'm saying it would have to be as well set somewhere between obviously Clone Wars and Jedi.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I guess you could do it after. I hope it's set. As he's falling into the sun. Yes, exactly. Immediately after Return of the Jedi. It's just him poking around for two hours. Ugh. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Ugh. Ugh. It's just him poking around for two hours. How do you stay alive in that pit for 2,000 years or whatever it is? It must keep you alive. There's a book on it anyway. It's called The Journey of the Sarlacc. No, you know the Tales from Jabba's Palace? Boy, yes. Yeah, you get Fett's perspective in the Sarlacc pit. Huh.
Starting point is 00:17:43 He doesn't like it. It's real dark in here. Yeah. Okay, so the Boba Fett movie, I'm assuming, is going to be some sort of Mr. Magoo-esque comedy of errors, right? Yeah. Where worst bounty hunter of them all, Boba Fett, just keeps stumbling into success somehow.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. The Inspector Gadget. Thank you, the Inspector Gadget of bounty hunters, correct. Yeah, that's it. If they're going to do it, I think they should do it between Empire and Jedi. I would love to see it where it goes from Cloud City or even during. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Or even from like the start of Empire where he tracks down Han Solo, picks him up, goes to Jabba's Palace. I want to see that. How about this? They did it in Shadows of the Empire. Yeah. How about instead it takes place immediately after he gets out of the Sarlacc pit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And maybe it's like a Payback style film. On the Sarlacc? Yeah, no. I think he'll take care of the Sarlacc fairly quickly. But maybe just like, I don't know. Remember Payback with Mel Gibson? I love Payback. Yeah, it was great.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And he just wanted, we'll talk about maybe Mel Gibson a little bit later. Maybe. We won't. Wink. No, let's not. But, you know, he just wanted his $30,000 or whatever and he just caused this incredible ruckus and killed all these people because he wanted just the small amount of money he was owed.
Starting point is 00:18:53 He was owed, yeah. Because he's a man of honour. Because he's a man of honour. I would like to... Maybe Boba Fett's got some unfinished business. Yeah. Maybe... With Dengar.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yeah, oh, maybe with Dengar. Maybe with Boss. Maybe with IG-88. Maybe with those guys, yeah. Maybe with 4LOM. Yeah. Oh, maybe with Dengar. Maybe with Boss. Maybe with IG-88. Maybe with those guys. Maybe with 4LOM. Oh, yeah. Maybe with Lobot. The guy with the things on his ears.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I enjoy Lobot. Yeah. Look, but maybe like, you know, he comes out and he realizes Jab is dead, but now he just wants to take revenge on the rest of the Hutts or something. I don't know. Vader? Yeah, Vader. Whatever. Whoever put him in that situation. The Hutts, yeah. Oh, rest of the Hutts or something. I don't know. Vader? Yeah, Vader. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Whoever put him in that situation. The Hutts, yeah. Oh, yeah, the Hutts, yeah. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah. Because, yeah, that'd be super cool. There's also the rumor long back that you may have remembered from a while back that they're going to swap Jango Fett out
Starting point is 00:19:39 because he's a Jango Fett clone. Oh, yeah, there we go, yep. So someone else will kill him and take the mantle. And so the one we see in the episodes five and six is somebody else. Yeah, somebody else, yeah. Which would be way better, right? That'd be so much better. But hey, that-
Starting point is 00:19:54 Because otherwise we're going to have to sit through like a weird origin story which consists of him getting rid of his New Zealand accent, like a lot of vocal training. No, say it. Get him, dad. Get him dead. No, you're not getting this. You're not getting this, Boba.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Get him, dad. Get him dead. No, no. Because you know how George Lucas went back and he re-dubbed Boba Fett's lines, New Zealand. Did he really? In The Empire Strikes Back, yeah. Good lord. He's like, he's no good to me alive, bro, or whatever. Oh boy. In your face, New Zealand listeners. That in the Empire Strikes Back yeah good lord he's like he's no good to me alive bro
Starting point is 00:20:25 or whatever in your face New Zealand listeners that's 100% accurate he wouldn't necessarily have that accent because his dad died when he was like
Starting point is 00:20:34 8 or 10 whatever he was and then he who knows what he was doing so he didn't even they didn't need to change it yeah anyway
Starting point is 00:20:41 doesn't matter look to be honest I don't even want to no no the Star Wars movies are all about consistency you're right I don't even want to... No, no. The Star Wars movies are all about consistency. You're right. I don't even want to see a Boba Fett movie.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I don't care. Is that just me? I want to see... You know what? What you said sounds great, actually. Yeah, exactly. He just keeps... Wouldn't it be amazing if one of the Star Wars movies was a comedy?
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like, inexplicably. Like, on purpose. Yeah, on purpose. Yeah, on purpose. Yeah, exactly, yeah. But, like, just make one of... Don't say it's going to be a comedy. Yeah. Like, make the Boba Fett one,
Starting point is 00:21:13 the trailer-like, it's going to be this amazing action movie. Yeah. And then you reveal that this character that everybody's loved inexplicably for decades is just an idiot. Could I suggest the song Smash Mouth's Walking on the Sun for when
Starting point is 00:21:25 he gets out of the sarlacc? Yes, you may. Yes. Good. So good, right? We've done it. Yeah, I think so. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. Do you want to talk Mad Max? Yes. Because Mad Max is out this week.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Fury Road. I'm bloody excited, mate. Me too. Yeah, it's probably, I hope it's good. You know what's weird? Because I re-watched, skimmed, the three Mad Max movies in preparation for this. Yeah. And you'd think that I'd be less enthused for Mad Max Fury Road after watching them.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah. But I'm more enthused. Really? Yeah. Would you want to go film by film or do you want to go general thoughts? I'm really intrigued by that. General, okay. Because it doesn't all hold up, does it?
Starting point is 00:22:25 No. No. No. I'd say one quarter of it holds up. In total? Yeah, and there are three movies. I'd say, I reckon there's a solid one and a bit movies out of it. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:22:38 We can talk about it. Okay, cool. Anyway, the first one, though. It's a mixed bag. Boy, is it. Yeah. The whole universe. What do you think of the first one?
Starting point is 00:22:45 It's from 1979. Look, and you've got to bear in mind, if you are going to watch it, you've got to think of it from the perspective, this was an independent Australian film. Yep. George Miller. Yes. Not Mark Miller. Correct.
Starting point is 00:22:55 He was a, what is he? He was a trauma emergency doctor. Uh-huh. And he financed this film. Yeah, yeah. And he raised like 400. That's very interesting. I didn't know he was a trauma doctor.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah. That's fascinating. I know, right? Considering what we're going to talk about in there. What a lot of people actually don't know is that there are three Mad Max movies. Because Americans especially, the first one they ever saw was The Road Warrior, which is the second one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And the first one wasn't released. It was only released a couple of years ago, right? In some countries. I think it was released in some places in the US. I know they dubbed the Australian accents. To American accents. To American accents. Everybody, not just...
Starting point is 00:23:35 Everybody, because Mel Gibson wasn't famous. Yeah, true, yeah. But what was I going to say? But also then I think they re-released it after Road Warrior because they were like, this is like the prequel to Mad Max. Yeah, yeah. And people were probably like, this was clearly made before and is much worse.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well, when we talk about worse, I think it feels to, when you watch it, it feels to me very much like George Miller wanted to have some fairly spectacular for the time action sequences and car chases and stuff like that. And he just sort of loosely strung some plot around it. Absolutely. There's some plots. Not really.
Starting point is 00:24:12 But it's such a – because every time I think about Mad Max, I'm like, oh, it's this post-apocalyptic world and they've run out of gas. Not that one. But, yeah, the first one, like going back to it, I realise it's been so long since I've watched it. It's not... It's in a country town.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It's in a country town. It's not... Like it's... Well, the backstory... I guess I always assumed this was the last pocket of civilisation left or something. Because in your head you see Thunderdome. Yeah, exactly. And then you get...
Starting point is 00:24:41 It's set in like Ballarat or something. Yeah, it's like... And then you get it. You go, but it's... It's set in, like, Ballarat or something. Yeah, it's like... A lot of it feels very much like a... Like an Australian soap opera. It feels like a country practice.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Or like Blue Heelers, which was, like, a very long-running Australian police soap opera. Funny you should say that. Yeah. The third... Thunderdome. Yes. George Miller and another guy directed it,
Starting point is 00:25:02 and the other guy went on to direct a bunch of Blue Heelers episodes there we go, perfect so the first Mad Max, it's not a poster it's so vague as to where because there's a scene right at the start where towards the start where the cops, because
Starting point is 00:25:19 Mad Max is a cop I wrote this down, the main police force the MPF main police force, the MPF. Main police force. Yeah. Because they're the main one. They're the main one. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:29 so they bring in like a gang member and then his lawyer shows up and gets him off. A greasy lawyer. Yeah, this greasy little lawyer gets him off in a technicality and a super weird voice.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And, so I'm like, I think it's a rape as well. Yeah, it is. Oh, and, ugh, cough of disapproval. But, yeah, so it's a rape as well. Yeah, it is. And cough of disapproval.
Starting point is 00:25:47 But yeah, so it's like, so initially I'm like, I thought this was a post-apocalyptic. I thought this was Law of the Jungle. Like people shooting flamethrowers out of the sides of their school buses and whatever. Like who's this guy getting somebody off on a legal technicality? Why are there lawyers? Yeah, why isn't everything just shotgun to the head?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah. Why is it like, exactly, people just rolled in dirt and shot the face or whatever? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, but that's the budget they had. It was filmed in, like, country Victoria. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Which, like, a few other roads, I'm like, I think I've been there. Like, it all looks the same anyway. But actually, the backstory is, and I don't know whether they say this specifically in the movie, because I can't remember. I watched them like a couple of years ago. There's an oil crisis. There's like a Persian Gulf War something. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Give it a name. I can't remember what it is. I think they even use the word Persia. I might be wrong. And they just burn all the oil. So there's an oil shortage. Right. And so this police force is the last kind of remnants of society
Starting point is 00:26:49 as everything's clumsing, collapsing. Everything's Columbo-ing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But that's not really made that clear, I feel. No. I mean, I saw it two years ago and you skimmed it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Maybe this is... Yeah, but it feels very much much it feels a bit student filmy except for the horrific car crashes and so forth yeah it's and where was i talk about the villain we could talk about the villain and that's the thing it's the weakest villain definitely well he's also toe cutter joe toe cutter joe is orter? I think it's just Toe Cutter. Oh, maybe it is. Let's assume it's Toe Cutter Joe. No, Immortal Joe. There we go.
Starting point is 00:27:28 See, that's what I learned. Immortal Joe is a Fury Road villain. Yes. Same actor. Same actor. That's what I learned just recently. And he was also Martian Manhunter. Was in the George Miller Justice League movie.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Interesting. So he's a favorite. He's a fave, man. Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's... He's probably in Blue Heelers. He probably... But yeah, like, fave, man. Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's... He's probably in Blue Heelers. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:27:46 But yeah, like, he's a toe cutter. Yeah. For starters, again, I did skim it. He doesn't cut anyone's toes off. Maybe he did. Maybe. Prior. Oh, that's probably how he got the name.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I assume. He's a very... He's a whimsical fop of a man. He's like, ooh, I hate guns. Yeah, and then he's like stealing a kid's ice cream and then the kid kicks him in the balls.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And there's a bit where like, like an old lady I forgot about that. This old lady threatens him with a rifle and he's like, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, the guns.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah, he's just this, he's a strange, what? Oh, also, here's something, here's something I realised having watched this. It should be called Mad Goose, the first movie. Because it's the... 70% of the movie is about Goose, who's Max's best friend,
Starting point is 00:28:39 played by Australia's own Steve Bisley. I think that's his name. That's his name, yeah. That's his name, yeah. He was in Frontline and a bunch of other stuff. Maybe Water Rats? Yeah, probably in Water Rats. You're right, because he's going crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:53 He's mad. He's bloody mad, because the guy who raped whoever gets off, and then he's furious. He's furious. And Max is kind of like... He goes on a fury road. Yeah, exactly. It's what we say in Australia. When you're really mad, you go on a fury road's and max is kind of like a fury road yeah exactly what we say in
Starting point is 00:29:05 australia when you're really bad you go on a fury road and max is kind of indifferent he's like oh yeah that's what happens in this society we're in i guess i don't know yeah he's fine with it and then but then so goose goes after them yeah and they burn goose alive yeah and he doesn't die though immediately he never dies we never see him we never see him dead okay well because well we can talk about the villain in the next one next because they're linked oh yeah okay but um and then mad max you think he's gonna get mad he doesn't get particularly mad he retires yeah he goes and lives in the country more of the country yeah with his wife and kid like more like bendigo more like bendigo and then more like ararat and then they
Starting point is 00:29:45 like safety beach like dramana goes down a bloody dramana mate and then he gets then they come after him and kill his wife and kid or whatever then he gets mad max he gets sort of mad like he's not that bad maybe he only really gets mad like the last minutes. Is he crazy mad or is he angry mad? That's a good point. I think he might be crazy mad. It's not bad. Because he doesn't get... No, but I mean, maybe he's crazy mad in the head.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah. Which is why he doesn't get particularly upset about all the crime and his best friend being burned alive and his wife being killed. Yeah. And him getting his arm run over. Does that happen in the first one? Arm run over, leg shot out. Yeah. Yeah. And him getting his arm run over. Does that happen in the first one? Arm run over, leg shot out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah. But he doesn't get, I think so maybe he's crazy mad. Yeah. Which is why he doesn't get angry mad. It's not really. Because he's crazy. Okay, sure. Maybe that's it.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Which sure would explain a lot. I would watch a movie called Mad Goose. Yeah, I know, right? Well, apparently, this is what I wrote. I did a video on it. I called it Mad Max Fax, F-A-X. It's very good, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Was there a fax in the thumbnail? I should probably do that. I could still change it. Good. But what was I going to say? Steve Beasley went in for a role, and Mel Gibson went in as his friend. So not to audition.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Not to audition. And he was all beat up because he'd been in a bar night, bar night, a bar fight the night before. And they were like, we need like weird kind of looking dudes. Oh, we need some freaks. Yeah. We need some gang members. And so he came back two weeks later and he was all healed.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And they were like, holy shit, it's Mel Gibson. Right. Pre-fame. It's the future famous celebrity Mel Gibson. We better get him a role for his future. So Bisley was kind of going to be, I think Goose was the bigger role, I think. I might be wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Which is why they were going to call the movie Mad Goose. Yeah. And, yeah. Okay. And then so, but that doesn't really explain why, Okay, and then so, but that doesn't really explain why, like it doesn't explain why the movie is 70% Goose, 30% Max. Yeah. You'd think that you'd give all the lines that Goose has to Max.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Yes. And then, and you have Goose be the calm one. Yeah. And then Goose get killed. Goose get killed. And then Goose get killed. Did you read that on my t-shirt? I did. My custom made t-shirt that just says Goose be the calm one and then Goose get killed. Goose get killed. Goose get killed. Did you read that on my t-shirt? I did.
Starting point is 00:32:07 My custom made t-shirt that just says Goose get killed. But then when Goose is killed then surely Max would get mad and then he goes
Starting point is 00:32:15 and he Mad Maxes for the rest of it. So he'd be Mad Maxing 100% of the film. Yes. So it's interesting. Maybe they, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It feels like a lot of it was kind of made up on the fly. It really does, doesn't it? Yeah. Well, because like, and they were like filming places they shouldn't, so they'd quickly film a scene on a bridge they couldn't film on and then they'd bugger off and whatever. Like they do all sorts of shit like that.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It's a remarkable achievement for the time. Yeah. Right? You know what's most remarkable? Nobody was killed. Yes. Because if you look at some of those stunts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I think a lot of people are injured though right because there was no yeah me too but like a lot of the bikers i think are actual bikers like the hell's angels yeah yeah i don't know whatever whatever other ripoff bikey games what do you have in australia what do you think they made of we got the hell's angels here i think yeah we do yeah we have um what do you think they made of toe cutters performance the hell's angels i think they probably separated him. Like they had everybody plug their ears so they wouldn't get a little mad goose at him and kill him. Did you enjoy the eye bulging effects?
Starting point is 00:33:13 That only happens once, right? It happens twice. It happens near the start as well. Oh, okay. I didn't see this. I remember it's the scene where Toecutter is about to get hit by a truck. Yes. And his eyes bulge out.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Could I show you something? Yes. Is it an eye bulging gif? In the front of the truck, they put on a metal plate. I know where this is going to go. And painted it to look like the front of a truck. Right. But it looks like they've painted the front of a truck.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah. It looks like a prop from a school production. Yeah, no, it really does. You know what I mean? Because the truck driver apparently didn't want to smash up his truck. Understandably. Yeah. To look like the... It looks like a prop from a school production. Yeah, no, it really does. You see what I mean? Because the truck driver apparently didn't want to smash up his truck. Understandably. So is that just a truck driver they flagged down on the street? Yeah, they just got presumably.
Starting point is 00:33:52 On the street. But you can also see it from this angle. You can see it sticking out from... Oh, fantastic. So it's just like a plate they've put on the front. Yeah. I mean, look, I couldn't make this now. Well, nobody could make this now for an incredible number of reasons.
Starting point is 00:34:06 It's been made. Well, it's been made, one, but for all sorts of incredible occupational health and safety reasons you could not possibly do that. Good point. And all sorts of legal reasons. I guess what I'm saying is I couldn't make something this good. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:16 No, absolutely. Yeah. I absolutely could. Is that what you're saying? No, I'm saying I'm agreeing with you. You could not do that. You could. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 You don't have the time or the talent yeah but also you know how this movie inspired saw oh i get it i did not know that but yeah because right at the end um max gets super mad he gets as mad as he's gonna get and he which is still quite reasonable he seems quite reasonable because he's he didn't just shoot the guy he came up with a plan and he handcuffs him to the car that's on fire. Yep. And he sets a little trap. Like he makes it so the hubcap feels or a headlight feels with fuel.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And once that feels, it goes down and hits a lighter. And then the guy explodes. Right. And he's like, well, you can't cut through the handcuffs. That's high tensile steel, mate. High tensile steel. High tensile steel. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:08 So because he gives him a hacksaw. He goes, 10 minutes minutes to cut through the chain five minutes to cut through your leg yeah yeah okay and that inspires all that's interesting or um whatever he handcuffs him to i think it's ankle yeah and the guy doesn't survive and the guy's like you're mad mate you're bloody mad max and. And he's like, I guess I am. You're bloody mad, Goose. I am mad, Goose. I've gotten so mad, Goose, here. And then he just wanders off, which is how all these films end. He just wanders off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 He limps off, really. Yeah, he gets in his car. There's some interesting continuity between all the Mad Max movies. His injuries? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because he spends all of Mad Max 2 with a leg brace on. Which I guess if you've never seen the first one,
Starting point is 00:35:54 if you just start with Road Warriors, a lot of people did, you'd be always looking for an explanation of some sort of flashback as to why he... But I think that still works regardless. Yeah, no, it does. I like stuff like that where they don't explain whatever, even though they do clearly explain it right right but just before we move on to road warrior though yeah on a scale of one to ten how mad does he get both angry and crazy i think i'm gonna say he's consistently like a nine in terms of crazy okay just no
Starting point is 00:36:24 you see what i'm saying, though. Like, the fact that he doesn't get mad even when he's faced with these insane, like, he doesn't get angry when he's faced. Oh, he's crazy. Yeah, that in itself is crazy. I don't think that was the intent, though. No, but still, well, I'm building it in.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I'm building it in because otherwise it makes no sense. Yeah. Right? This movie did not make any sense, like, on any kind of emotional level or narrative level unless you assume that the main protagonist, Mad Max, is literally insane mad. Yeah. Like the whole time.
Starting point is 00:36:52 He just keeps it quiet. Yeah. It's in there all the time. And he's just contemplating eating people's faces like all the time. But he keeps it in. He keeps it in because he's like, I'm a cop. On the edge. On the edge.
Starting point is 00:37:03 But not really. No. Or I am. I don or i am i don't know i don't know uh but terms of mad mad he gets to i reckon he gets to about a four yeah yeah because he's quite controlled yeah yeah it is it's very calculated like he should have kicked him in the face a lot and then done the trap that's all i'm saying yeah anyway do you want to talk road warrior so about road warrior it's the best one it's the best one yeah by a long shot yes that i think my assumption is that fury road is going to take the most number of cues from yeah
Starting point is 00:37:32 based on the trailers based on the truck based on the truck yeah based on flamethrowers coming out of school buses the villain yeah then it it looks like it's because this is the one most people remember yeah i would say Thunderdome as well. Like the first 40 minutes of Thunderdome. We'll get to that. Okay, cool. Yeah. But yeah. Like you said, that wasn't known as a sequel though, was it?
Starting point is 00:37:52 No. Overseas in particular. But it works on its own. Absolutely it does. Yeah. So he just kind of shows up at the start. Yep. And he's just been wandering.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And things have got progressively worse. I think in between society has completely collapsed. So this is, at this point, we've run out of fuel? Yes. There hasn't been a nuclear apocalypse? Not yet. That does happen, though. That happens in three, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Somehow. Okay, sure. But I don't even understand. I don't buy the timeline. Do you know what the timeline is, though? Yes. It's something like year 2000 Mad Max 2003 road warrior 2018 thunderdome oh that makes that makes much more sense i mean not in terms of how much he's aged right no exactly so
Starting point is 00:38:34 are those numbers because i don't recall those happening i don't think they mention it specifically i mean they may i don't know because normally you think the start of these things there's a lot of the time they'd be like it's the year 2003 and there'll be like a wall of text oh sure you know what i mean yeah and everybody's using futuristic fax machines and whatever yeah yeah so basically he's like a scavenger like he's just surviving he's got his he's got his um car from the first one right yeah and it's got a name and i can't remember what it's called the indicator or the eradicator or something the exterminator interceptor sure yeah good enough yep um but again he's not that mad no he's just kind of surviving he's just after fuel and water or whatever and a pilot ambushes him or somebody ambushes him and takes all his shit the guy in a little gyrocopter yeah
Starting point is 00:39:24 yeah bruce spence bruce who's also plays a pilot in the third one yep but they're different Or somebody ambushes him and takes all his shit? The guy in Little Gyrocopter? Yeah. Yeah, Bruce Spence. Bruce Spence, who also plays a pilot in the third one. Yep. But they're different characters. They're different pilots. Oh, that's right. Yes, you're right. Why?
Starting point is 00:39:33 I don't know. What are you looking up there? Just all kinds of stuff. Yeah. The plot? Yeah, the plot. But basically, so he comes across these people who are former oil company employees, and they've made this little-
Starting point is 00:39:47 Oh, is that what they are? That's what they are. I thought they were a religious cult. Oh, probably. They're probably oil company employees that were hired based on a weird religious belief they had. You're probably right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Anyway, so they've got a tanker full of oil or about that of fuel. They've got about that much. And he wants some just so he can keep living his life. But then Humongous and his crew. He wants five litres of diesel. It's a bi-octane fuel. That's what he says. Does he?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah. Great. He has 16 lines in that movie as well, Mel Gibson. That makes a lot of sense. It does, yeah. Because they had to cut out all his racism and so he kind of reluctantly then agrees to kind of help them get the fuel away from these guys who were going to use it for bad things and humongous is like probably just shooting fire out of a school bus there's a lot of i don't think there's an actual
Starting point is 00:40:43 i don't think there's an actual flamethrower in a school bus at any point in any of the Mad Men series. In Fury Road, I think there is. Good. Yeah. Good, finally. Leave the fuel and I will spare your lives. Do you remember that bit?
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah. It's pretty good. Well, he was originally going to be Goose. See, there we go. Because he has Goose's gun and he's all burnt. It makes no sense because that dude's like 8 foot 10 and Goose is like 5 foot 9 or whatever. And he's completely, like, he has completely pristine. Yeah, he's like eight foot ten and goose is like five foot nine and he's completely like he has completely pristine yeah he's like head is burnt but his body isn't uh-huh well because in the original mad max the villains were actually just going to capture goose and stick his
Starting point is 00:41:15 head in an oven cooked goose baked goose precisely yeah so then that happened so that was so that was maybe an early version of the script or do you think they changed it on the fly I think they probably changed it because they were like
Starting point is 00:41:29 nobody knows nobody's saying this right I'm assuming because then there would have to be a reveal at the end he takes the mask off
Starting point is 00:41:34 and it's TV's Steve Bisley and Mad Max would be like oh it's Goose it's Mad Goose and the audience would be like what I don't remember yeah because you'd have to
Starting point is 00:41:44 build in a backstory you'd have to build in a backstory. You'd have to cut out. But you could do that, though. You could, yeah. But it wouldn't have, again, if you'd not seen the first one, it wouldn't have any resonance. Yeah. Like, he's a character we've introduced in the first five minutes.
Starting point is 00:41:55 In a flashback, now he's the bad guy. You'd be like, who cares? Can you imagine Steve Bisley in that metal underwear? Yes. And hockey mask, yes. So there's a dog boy in it. Oh, the feral kid, sure. Who's got a boomerang.
Starting point is 00:42:12 You know what, we didn't even really talk about the car stuff in the first Mad Max. Okay, sure, car stuff. It was really good. Yeah. Given how much... Given the limitations and whatever. Yeah, I completely agree. But when you see two cars crash into each other or whatever, you're like, that's astounding, nobody died.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Anyway, back to Mad Max 2. That's all you wanted to say. That's all I wanted to say, really, yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to remember. Like, I would watch it if only for, skim it, if only for the, if you've never seen it, just for the, just for the car stuff. But I feel like it's also, it's like when you go back
Starting point is 00:42:39 and watch Bullet, because Bullet's got an amazing car chase. Yeah. But it's not very good, is it? You know what though did we talk about this in the podcast maybe we didn't maybe but i want the first time i watched the movie bullet with steve mcqueen yeah people like oh my god it's the amazing car chase the amazing car or whatever and i watched it i'm like oh yeah it's back and forth and it's they keep reusing the footage again and the car keeps losing that same hubcap over again and it's it's pretty
Starting point is 00:43:03 good and whatever but then i saw it at the asta which is the big Art Deco cinema in Melbourne. Yeah. On the huge screen with an audience. I'm like, it's amazing. Oh, really? Like a big screen. It really comes across. It really comes.
Starting point is 00:43:15 That hubcap just rolls right into your life. Yeah, absolutely. So anyway, what I'm saying is all our listeners go to the Asta, wait till they have a screening of Mad Max and then watch it. I think you recommend that for all old movies. I do, yeah. Like don't watch them at home by yourself. No, watch them.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Because you'll just turn them off. Yeah, absolutely. Because there's so much other stuff to do. Exactly. Yeah. Mad Max 2, best villain? Best villain and best sub-villain. Sub-villain, the Mohawk man.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Mohawk man, yeah. And he's got like an effeminate kind of partner? Okay, here's the thing about that. Here's something I learned about that. Is. Like I'm like, that's very progressive, but is that not what it is? It's not progressive because it's a deleted scene. Or it's a deleted scene from.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Are they brothers or something? No, they're. Is that Goose? No, stop it. So that guy, Wes. Yeah. I can't remember the actor's name name but he was also Bennett in Commando same guy
Starting point is 00:44:07 let off some steam Bennett correct I know him okay so anyway that's the most mismatched fight in movie history so anyway I saw it's a clip
Starting point is 00:44:14 it's it's probably in print as well but like somebody asked him at a convention yeah what's the deal were they a couple
Starting point is 00:44:22 kind of thing and he's like no Wes rescued that because you know the timelines are weird where's rescued that kid from like gang members the dog boy no the oh the one we assume is his partner yeah as a child like when he was like four years old from gang members and now he's like the surrogate father son kind of situation so when they don't, when the... The dog boy hits him in the face with a sharp boomerang. Yeah, and he dies, right?
Starting point is 00:44:49 And Wes is super annoyed at that. He's a little bit mad goose about the whole situation. He goes on a bloody fury road about the whole thing. But that's because that's his son. Oh, okay. Well, that makes a lot of sense. But that's, I don't know. I mean, it still makes sense the other way.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yeah, it does, doesn't it? It's very regardless. There's a lot of... When you go back and you watch a movie from like the 80s there's always especially the early 80s yeah there's like i don't know if they do it they probably don't do it deliberately like they all seem like nice people whatever yeah but there's always this ingrained subtext of like if you're gay it's bad and we can make jokes about it and it's fine kind of thing yeah okay like if you've seen the first highlander movie yeah yeah there's a scene where uh conor mcleod is being interviewed by like the cops about something or other and you know somebody being
Starting point is 00:45:34 murdered or whatever and the guy's like oh yeah so you are you oh you're an antiques dealer how you're kind of a cloud you you little you're a fairy you're gay or whatever and conor mcleod's like why you want a date you want to go on a date and the guyCloud's like why? you want a date? you want to go on a date? and the guy's like I'll kill you! I'll kill you! like he gets so enraged
Starting point is 00:45:50 like like it's just this it's the worst thing you could be in the 80s yeah in the 80s yeah it's so like in
Starting point is 00:45:56 yeah so there's always that weird subtext or just overt somebody getting incredibly enraged but anyway yeah good villain good sub-villain yep
Starting point is 00:46:04 leave the fuel sorry it's pretty good oh you were talking about the feral kid but somebody getting incredibly enraged. But anyway, yeah, good villain, good sub-villain. Yep. Leave the fuel! Sorry. It's pretty good. Oh, you were talking about the feral kid with the boomerang. Yeah, who turns out to be the narrator because he takes these people out or they leave at the end and they go set up another society. That's right.
Starting point is 00:46:18 So what happens if you haven't seen, I guess we're spoiling this. He steals a tanker after they wreck him and his car. Yes. You know how he busts up his eye? In the next one, he's got a really big dilated pupil. Huh. But he doesn't have the leg brace anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Well. In the 15 years after. He's been doing stretches. He probably is. Probably, yeah. He's doing his rehab. And you know how he's also missing- That being said, I twisted this ankle once and it still clicks when I move it.
Starting point is 00:46:42 It's like five years. Well, give it another 10. We'll see where you're at. Good point. You know how he's missing a sleeve in that movie as well? Yes. Because he got his arm run over. He finds the sleeve.
Starting point is 00:46:52 In Fury Road, he finally finds the sleeve. That's his quest, is to have a complete leather jacket. But it's kind of like, because with trauma patients, you know he got his arm run over. They would just cut it off him. That's right, yeah. So it's stuff like that, which is... Yeah, you know he got his arm run over. They would just cut it off him. That's right, yeah. So it's stuff like that, which is... Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Which is nice. I love that outfit. I mean, not all the movie makes perfect sense. Certainly not. It's the one that makes the most sense. Yeah, definitely. That boomerang's bloody all over the place, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 So at the end, Max takes the tanker out. Yep. And they all chase him because they think the fuel's in it. And he kills, like, Humongous and Hawkman or whatever. What's his name? Wes. Wes. Wes Hawkman.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, it crashes and it's filled with sand. Yep. And it turns out that colony have taken out the fuel in, like, little containers in smaller things. They've gone in a different direction. Thimbles. Yes. And then he just walks away again.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah. Just into the desert. And that's that, I guess. Okay, so rate his level of madness. Craziness? Yes. Even lower than the first one. Yeah, I'd say he's less crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:01 He's very indifferent. Yeah. And he doesn't even get that mad. Now, so somebody, I was reading somewhere like the- Two. Level of madness. Yes. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Just generally for both? Both, yeah. Okay, that's pretty good. This is like, this is his crossroads of whether he gets real mad or not. Because he could either, because he's the bystander in this situation. Yeah, he doesn't, he just wants one tank of gas. Yeah, exactly. Because he saves a guy, doesn't he, or something? Yeah, because he's the bystander in this situation. Yeah, he just wants one tank of gas. Yeah, exactly. He saves a guy, doesn't he, or something?
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah, but it's sort of a case of he's at this crossroads. Will he join civilization and help these people? Oh, okay. Or will he succumb to his fury road? Yeah. Will he go the way of the goose? Will he go the way of the goose and become a crazy gang member crazy gang member yeah and he does he leaves yeah he leaves again he chooses neither yeah and he just walks off i don't know how he survives the guy's got some real issues man
Starting point is 00:48:55 maybe he is crazy that's what i'm saying so that's the end of that movie i think if you're gonna watch one watch that one yes because that's that's what this is yeah that's what that's fury road is gonna be that yeah essentially is gonna be a better version of that we've talked about uh what movie makers these days are good at and film tv makers are good at is getting to like the core of what people enjoyed about like a franchise and then sort of saturating it all together in one thing. Like Birds of Prey. Like Birds of Prey, thank you. But as an actual example, like Doctor Who.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I'm not necessarily a huge fan of them, but they've gotten the big concepts and the fun characters and the banter between the Doctor and the companions and et cetera and whatever, and they've put it all together. They've whittled it down. They've whittled it down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And I think Fury Road's going to be something like that. Like, you have a memory of Mad Max and, like, the crazy action and the apocalyptic stuff and, you know, Max being the stoic character, and I think that's what it's going to be. Yep, yep. But he could stand to be a bit bloody mad, though, I you what so anyway uh beyond thunderdome 3 15 years later 15 years later this is there was a nuclear war in between yeah it's it's weird and we'll get to in a second but this i don't know if the timeline works because later in the later in the movie he's
Starting point is 00:50:21 talking to a whole bunch of kids yeah and he has to explain to them that they used to be cities. Yes. And he's saying it like it's this incredible legend. But it was only 15 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. I guess so. Anyway, so this movie is, it's the Return of the Jedi of this franchise.
Starting point is 00:50:39 It's the, let's see, it's the Robocop 3 of this franchise. Yep. It's the Die Hard 4 of this franchise, if I may. It's all of those things. Okay, fair. Well, it is a PG-13. The other two are... Yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah. It's weird that it starts out that he's riding a camel. Yeah. Or he's got a little cart and he's got a camel. Yeah. And doesn't that guy fly in and just... The pilot. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:04 The gyrocopter. Whatever. One, he flies a plane. One just the pilot yes gyrocopter whatever whatever i could one he flies a plane one he flies a gyrocopter i can't remember which one's which and he just drops and knocks him off his thing does he and steals all this stuff oh yeah is that right i can't remember because i remember when he anyway he turns up to barter town yeah which is run by tina turner sure and angry and. Is that really Angry Anderson? Angry Anderson, yeah. He's got the big thing on his head. Oh, it is Angry Anderson.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I think it's Angry Anderson. The other guy's Master Blaster, which we'll talk about. Or the other two guys. For non-Australian listeners, we have an Australian musician slash personality and his name's Angry Anderson. He's not that angry. He's not that angry. As angry anderson he's not that angry he's really not as a man he's not that angry he's quite reasonable yeah and he most famously here we
Starting point is 00:51:51 go look up this on youtube i know what's coming what was it he sung what song was it oh i can't remember he sung it the a massive australian sporting event is the AFL Grand Final. In 1992, he sung Bound for Glory in front of 100,000 people after he rolled out in a blue version of the Batmobile. It was 92, so it was right around Batman Returns. And he sung probably the worst rendition of that song, which isn't a great song to begin with. And there was just laughter. And it still goes down as one of the greatest shames
Starting point is 00:52:26 in australian sporting history so anyway find out on youtube it's amazing just google just go to youtube and look up angry anderson grand final it'll be there it'll be the top result if you learn nothing from this podcast and you won't learn anything from this podcast it's find that because it's great it's so good so yeah but also there's like a radiated water yeah okay he's got one of those he's got long hair and he's wearing like a sack right so yeah he does so so this this movie is return of the jedi and it's kids and it's got the weird kids it's robocop 3 insofar as it's they've they they're like well this is one last gasp for yeah for making a profit so let's broaden it out and make it uh you know
Starting point is 00:53:11 as palatable as possible to everybody yeah and in the end sort of alienate everyone but it's die hard 4 in that he is transformed from a regular guy yes to like like a zen ninja amazing reflexes yeah yeah you're like there's a scene where he's in a he's in an office i think yeah you know what whatever passes for an office and he can like sense when somebody's about to attack yeah and he grabs like a tray of fruit off the off the desk and he just hurls it behind him and hits the guy in the head with it yeah exactly i mean he's had 15 years in the desert i guess that'll oh that'll sharpen your reflexes yeah like that blind guy in book of eli spoiler alert it's a washington he's blind no one's watching that nobody even remembers that exists that's very bad max actually isn't it
Starting point is 00:53:55 yeah it was a bit yeah maybe watch that instead nope don't do it don't go back so anyway they make him tina turner says listen there's a, Master Blaster runs the fuel in this city, which is basically a man, a dwarf who sits on top of a giant. Yes. Master and Blaster. Master and Blaster. And they use pig shit to fuel everything. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And so she doesn't like how he's got all the power because we're running the city. And so she doesn't like how he's got all the power because we're running the city. So she strikes a deal with Max to defeat Blaster in the Thunderdome. Correct. Which is basically a giant spherical cage or half of, semicircle. Sure. And you're attached to like bungee cables and you bounce around and try and kill each other. Yes. What part of that are you not
Starting point is 00:54:47 on board with i'm okay with all of that up to the bit what we'll talk about yeah so basically he defeats blaster and it turns out that he's disabled he has down syndrome yeah so refuses to kill him yes and then tina turner's like you're an egg on the deal. You get gulag. No, you get the wheel. You get goulash. Yes, a delicious bowl because you've got Moxie. And so they bring out this giant wheel and they make him spin it
Starting point is 00:55:14 and it's like a whole thing's like, you know, like you lose a limb or you're set free or whatever. Spiders up your butt. Spiders up your butt. And he gets gulag, which is basically, we're going to put you backwards on a horse with a big paper mache head on you like like from the movie frag and just send you out into the
Starting point is 00:55:33 desert yeah that's gulag apparently how they settled on that specific word and punishment i do not know and it's you would think that gulag a lot of the time would end with like the horse falling over like 100 meters from the gate and then just getting like the mask comes off and they're like well bye and they're just walking away but apparently not he ends up in the bloody desert and he meets a whole bunch of kids well Well, this movie, though, George Miller was going to make it like a futuristic Lord of the Flies movie. Okay. And then he's like, oh, just make it a Mad Max movie.
Starting point is 00:56:13 So he did. But also, as I said, the producer on these movies, Byron Kennedy, not a name I've written here because I wouldn't forget, he died in an aerial accident, helicopter or plane. And George Miller Miller was like I don't really have my heart's not in this Okay, so he only directed the action scenes and this other director who did blue heelers and such directed all the other stuff Okay, that makes sense right you really now that I think about it makes a lot of sense. It's like a movie and a half Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So what I'm saying is the first 40 minutes, 45 minutes until he gets gulagged is solid. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:50 In so much it kind of fits with the world. Yeah. And then afterwards it's just nonsense. Yeah. Borsow. Boring nonsense. It's boring nonsense. Before it was nonsense.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Yeah. And you know what? Even the action sequences are boring. Yeah. The final chase. It's a train, is that right? Yeah. Because I think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:08 But it's like, you know, we've talked about like you watch the A-Team or whatever and they absolutely go out, there's so much shooting and, you know, car chases or whatever, but they absolutely go out of their way to show that nobody gets hurt. Yeah. Like the A-Team will, you know, knock the bad guy's car off a bridge or whatever and it'll fall into a ditch and there's a voiceover they're like are you okay and they got other guys like yeah i'm fine you know so we know that they're totally yeah nobody's been hurt that's what the last action sequence in mad max 3 feels like because they the kids that it gets to that
Starting point is 00:57:39 point because the kids think he's the pilot who left them there yeah and all the adults but because he looks like him and they cut his hair or whatever yeah yeah and now this weird future speak which i do not care for do you remember they have like other words for things and whatever and they think they take him to the plane which is now covered in like 15 years of sand and like let's go and he's like i'm not a pilot and if i was that you're an idiot yeah and but then they leave some of them leave to find civilization he goes after them and they encounter tina turner's men and whatever and then they have a they have a thunderdome they don't have a thunder they have
Starting point is 00:58:14 a fury road they have a fury road and yeah and then it just kind of ends correct and tina turner's like i respect you and then he walks away as he always does. Boy does he, yeah. It's not very good. It sure isn't. How mad is he? I don't think he's ever mad. I mean, he's crazy, but who wouldn't be crazy in this environment? But he's never angry.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Yeah. In fact, he's super calm the whole time now that I think about it. Zen, like you said. Yeah, he's never he's never angry yeah in fact he's super calm the whole time now that I think about it zen like you said yeah he's a zen zen weirdo now yeah I don't know so I guess
Starting point is 00:58:52 out of these three what would you recommend people watch the second one and that's all that's it yeah and even then
Starting point is 00:58:58 don't go in thinking it's going to be this amazing it's from 1981 you've got to bear that in mind correct it had a budget of like 4.5 million or something okay and I amazing it's from 1981 and you got to bear that in mind correct i had a budget like 4.5 million or something okay and i think it's good i like i genuinely like it but yeah yeah i don't also i don't think you if you've listened to this you probably don't need to watch them in preparation for fury road or anything even if you didn't listen to this even if you just
Starting point is 00:59:20 tuned in now right if your policy is to download this and then move the needle to like however far we're in. Whatever we are in. What are we in? Oh, yeah. We're just under an hour. It's pretty good, isn't it? Sure is. Oh, you know what we neglected to mention?
Starting point is 00:59:36 What's that? The Thunderdome song. Oh, sure. We don't need another hero. Tina Turner. Uh-huh. Which I realized only recently that, like, because it's played on like your golden oldies
Starting point is 00:59:48 kind of radio stations, that she had to shoehorn in the Thunderdome reference in there. So it sort of snuck in right at the end of the chorus. She really gets it in there, doesn't she? Sort of whispers it in there. Yeah. It's great. She's in a futuristic kind of get up and whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Also, Tupac's song California Love was filmed in the Thunderdome. If you watch that video clip, it's all very Mad Max. It is a bit, yeah. Also, Tupac's song California Love was filmed in the Thunderdome. If you watch that video clip, it's all very Mad Max. It is a bit, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I think it was the actual Thunderdome, though. Like the actual set. Like the real-life Thunderdome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Where they bounce about. Oh, yes. I still stand by that Thunderdome scene. I think it's mad and futuristic enough that it would be something ridiculous. Do you want to talk about mad max 4 though that was sort of nearly made before i've not heard about this but let's go so basically in the mid 90s oh quick letter here from sam hey guys in preparation for your mad max episode i decided to watch all three of the films while watching the first one i noticed that it
Starting point is 01:00:40 isn't very good it isn't. But it feels like it jumps around and all the scenes are barely connected. I also found the dialogue boring. I was just wondering if you guys believe that Mad Max is the classic, like people hail it to be. Thanks, Sam. No.
Starting point is 01:00:56 It's Mad Max 2. The best one. Yeah, that's a fairly accurate summary. Yeah, totally. And reaction to the first Mad Max movie. Again, I think it's an amazing achievement, blah, blah, blah. So Mad Max- And apparently a lot of the extras were just paid in beer in Mad Max 1.
Starting point is 01:01:13 That makes a lot of sense. You know what else? Thunderdome is the worst one because it should be better. It's got the biggest budget. Mel Gibson's a biggest star. Yep. Like it's clearly got the biggest budget. Like you can, it's very noticeable.
Starting point is 01:01:26 They had a lot of years to kind of get it right. And it's just nothing. Yeah. Like, I don't know. Who cares? But anyway, Mad Max 4. George Miller was like, I'm done with Mad Max. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:37 He's been mad enough, which I disagree with. He's maxed out. Two X's. Three X's. That's how done he was and he had this idea in the mid 90's where
Starting point is 01:01:49 you know every time there's something at stake like it's either fuel or it's always fuel is it I don't know no well it's
Starting point is 01:01:55 it's fuel in the first two and then it's water wait oh yeah or is it water in the next one I don't know no it's water in the next one no this one is about
Starting point is 01:02:03 water and slaves. Oh, interesting. Like humans are the commodity. Okay, right, right, right. So he thought that was a great idea, but then he quickly dismissed it. He's like, I don't want to make another bloody Mad Max movie. Right, right. But then it kind of creeped up on him or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:19 In the early 2000s, Mel Gibson was going to do it, but also he was kind of reluctant because he was getting older and more racist. And then all that thing kind of reluctant because he was getting older and more racist. And then all that thing kind of happened where he had that massive public blowout and then it settled down. Then he had another massive public blowout. Yeah. And at one point they were like, oh, we'll animate it.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Interesting. I'm assuming computer-ish. I don't know. When I think like- They were going to do a video game. They are doing that. Well, no, they actually did one... They were going to do a video game. They are doing that. Well, no, they actually did one. They were going to do it, the license fell through,
Starting point is 01:02:48 so they released it as Outlander. Oh, is it good? I played it. It's no good. I finished it. When did that come out? Let me check. It was on the Super Nintendo.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Oh. What is it? Like a side scroller? 1992 it came out. Oh, jeez. Yeah. Side scroller? It's part driving driving part side scroller
Starting point is 01:03:05 so it's like a third person driving yep he was the only novelty right you'd be driving you'd be driving along third person driving right
Starting point is 01:03:12 and then like maybe a guy you know people would be attacking you from all sides whatever and maybe a guy on a motorcycle would come up on your left
Starting point is 01:03:18 or what would happen is you'd get a little picture in picture box yeah on the left of like the car window and you're looking out and you could shotty him.
Starting point is 01:03:26 You could bloody shotgun him through the window. It was the best. I played it solely for that novelty. And then you'd get out of the bike and you'd sort of side-scroll through a town and shoot people. Okay, I think we should play that at some point. Okay. Even though it's not the officially Mad Max video game
Starting point is 01:03:42 because there's a new one coming out. Interesting. We'll talk about that a bit because I've got a letter about it. So, yeah, they made like, there was a fan from like 2011, which is apparently quite good. I can't remember. I haven't seen it. And Heath Ledger was rumored for the role before he died.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I guess they could just go to Ballarat and film it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly the same. Because a lot of it as well, one and two, it's not a lot of desert, really. Not at all. No. It's like a lot of shrubbery. There and two, it's not a lot of desert, really. Not at all, no. It's like a lot of shrubbery. There's so much shrubbery. Michael Bain was talked about as well.
Starting point is 01:04:11 He'd be a good Mad Max, actually. And Jeremy Renner also apparently wanted the role. That could work. Yeah, totally. I saw a picture of him, I include this in the video, in his Hansel and Gretel outfit. Oh, yeah. And that's kind of Mad Max-y.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Okay, sure. Kind of that ridiculous kind of shit. This has been a long time coming, Fury Road. 30 years. No, but I mean, like, we saw the first, like, still of Tom Hardy in, like, Mad Max. Oh, ages ago. Ages, years ago, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 The trailer came out, I think the first trailer came out, like, last July. Right, right. But also, they planned to film it in Australia in the early 2000s because the American, the Australian dollar was really strong. So it would have made a lot of sense. I can't remember for whatever reason. And also they were going to film it a few years ago in the Australian outback and then it flooded.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Oh, yeah, that's right. So this one isn't filmed in Australia. It's filmed in like Namibia or some shit. Okay. Some balls country. Yeah. I'm sure it's lovely. It's plenty desert-y and that's what I want to say. Namibia or some shit. Okay. Some balls country. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure it's lovely.
Starting point is 01:05:09 It's plenty desert-y, and that's what I want to say. That's right. Also, a guy called Tyrionis is worried that George Miller, he's been doing kids' movies for like 30 years. Great kids' movies. Babe. Yep. Can't think of any other ones. Babe 2, Pig in the City.
Starting point is 01:05:21 He didn't direct Babe. Happy Feet. Happy Feet 2? Oh, yeah. I don't like the Happy Feet movies. I didn't direct Babe. Happy Feet. Happy Feet 2? Oh, yeah. I don't like the Happy Feet movies. I haven't seen them. They're okay. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I'm just saying there's a reason why they're not thought of as a toy story. Right. Well, maybe that's because his passion lies in driving stuff through deserts and shrubberies and blowing stuff up. I hope so. And flamethrowers inside school buses. Flamethrower and everything. Charlize Theron with weird eye makeup. Yes. Just shooting people. school buses. Flamethrower and everything. Charlize Theron with weird eye makeup.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Yes. Just shooting people. I agree. Flamethrowering. Yeah. Great. Max isn't so much a hero, is he? He's mostly a bystander.
Starting point is 01:05:56 They don't need another hero that's established. That's very much established, sure. But yeah, he's more just kind of a man trying to survive. Yeah. He's a scavenger really. Pretty much, yeah. Which is his best and worst haircut? I kind of like the Thunderdome haircut, like the pre-haircut Thunderdome.
Starting point is 01:06:13 I reckon his first haircut, the first movie is the worst. The crew. It's that weird, but it's not even like the ear bits too high. Right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway. I guess Mad Max. We're looking forward to it. Yeah. Oh yeah. We I mean? Yeah, yeah. Anyway. I guess Mad Max.
Starting point is 01:06:25 We're looking forward to it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about it next week. When we see it. Do you want to do What We Read In? Yeah, actually, you know what? I'm going to be reading.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Hey, we've got to do the theme song first. Oh, sorry. Okay. I say What We Read In and you say... What we gonna read? I'm doing the theme. What are we reading today? Go on.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Give me a second. I'm just going to bring it up. All right. Do you want me to talk about I Want to Read? Yeah. What are you going to read? I've been trying to see Ex Machina. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Okay. It's supposedly out here, but it's playing nowhere near I Live. I even read a review in The Herald Sun, which is a paper I don't normally read because it's bullshit. Sure. And they're like, you should go and see this. This is great. Four and a half stars. If it's in the Herald Sun, you'd think it'd be in a cinema.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yes. Am I wrong? I agree with you. No. I can't see this movie. I've been wanting to see it for like a year. It's not anywhere. I can't.
Starting point is 01:07:21 It's not on Pirate Bay. Have you thought about not seeing it? I have not thought about that. You should maybe consider that because it might be your only option at this point is to not see that movie. I'm getting all mad goose about it. Maybe you're right.
Starting point is 01:07:31 You're getting so mad goose. I should let it go. Just let it go. You'll end up on a bloody Fury Road. You know where that ends? At a Thunderdome. Correct. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:40 What I'm going to watch is actually on Netflix. Yeah. And I thought about it, but I haven't... I've heard about it and it's apparently very good, but I haven't... I've heard about it and it's apparently very good, but I haven't watched it. It's called Not Quite Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:07:48 It's like a documentary about the ausploitation films of the 70s and 80s. Okay. Like all the low-budget, weird Australian films, like our own little... I can't think of any. No, exactly. See, that's why I'm going to watch it.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I did watch a movie this week, though. What did you watch? Let me just screw the cap on this water that I was drinking. It's called Still Alice. Okay. It's got Julianne Moore and what's his name? It's got a giant head. Steve Bisley.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I wish. Alec Baldwin. Oh, yes. Does have a giant head. Does have a giant head. He looks like a Lego man. Here's the proportions of a Lego man. And it's about Julianne Moore is um this kind of professor of linguistics
Starting point is 01:08:26 and at the age of 50 she develops early onset alzheimer's and it just goes through kind of her decline and journey and whatever it's really sad it's really good uh it's good great it's not really a comic book thing no do they use like lord of the rings like perspective technology to make alec baldwin's head seem small than it is? Or is it just looming there with his giant head? It's mostly looming. Oh, jeez. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Look, it's not like a big fun time, but it's a really good movie. Excellent. That's what I read. I mean, watched. Should we go through letters, I guess? Yeah, let's do letters.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I love letters. This is from Michael from the States. Are you doing nicknames? Oh, um... Do you want me to wait? I'll read it, then you can... Yankee Michael!
Starting point is 01:09:08 The only one. Gem Grabbers. When the new Mad Max video game premiered last year, a lot of people were yelling and strife came about due to Max's lack of an Aussie accent. The game developers then hired a new actor and changed it. Do you remember that? I do remember that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Yeah. That's fair, because he's supposed to be Australian, mate. Right? Yes. It'd be like making James Bond Sean Connery. No, not like that.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I can understand. I don't care, to be honest. Right. I can understand why people are upset. Anyway, now the new Mad Max movie is almost...
Starting point is 01:09:40 Has it ever definitively said it's set in Australia? Yeah. Oh, it is. Well, it's obviously set in Australia because everybody's got a Australian accent. I don't know if anybody says it. But if anybody says this, this is bloody Australia, mate. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I think you see a sign for Ararat. Oh, then, yeah, okay. And now the new Mad Max movie is almost here. And hello, no Aussie actor in the lead role again, unless I missed it. There is definitely little or no outcry about Tom Hardy's lack of southern hemisphere credentials. Is this a big deal to Australians? Is Mad Max so iconic that it's abhorrent that a Brit... That's a good word.
Starting point is 01:10:11 That a Brit plays him. Where was Worthington... That's our word of the week. Yes. Abhorrent. Where was Worthington and Courtney in casting? Thanks, guys. Michael from the States.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I don't want either of those guys. Worthington or Courtney. I think Heath Ledger would have been good. I wouldn't have turned down Worthington. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. Now that I've re-watched these. Yeah. There's not a lot to it, is there?
Starting point is 01:10:31 There's not a lot to it. There's not a lot of kind of explosive acting required. It's mostly just being kind of stoic while things happen around you and occasionally somebody runs over your arm with a motorcycle. And he doesn't even react all that much. So I reckon Worthington would work. Sure. I don't know. runs over your arm with a motorcycle so and he doesn't even react all that much yeah so i reckon
Starting point is 01:10:45 worthington would work sure i don't know there's a lot of i don't care if he's not a stream to be honest though hearing the latest trailer yeah his accent's not very good he's like boy names max it's not very good but i don't care yeah i don't know i think I think people will be. People feel a lot of ownership of stuff that was initially Australian but now really isn't. Paul Hogan. Paul Hogan, ACDC. Yep. Mel Gibson.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah, exactly. Well, he's not even Australian. We've disowned him. But he came here when he was a teenager and then left as soon as he could. But yeah, like ACDC, that band's like three-quarters American now. Oh, is it? here when he was like a teenager and then left as soon as he could yeah but yeah like acdc yeah that band's like three quarters of america american now oh is it but now we're yeah but we're like yeah acdc i don't think that i think those people those people would be upset about i don't think they're that good i think they haven't had a good song in about 30 years what about rock
Starting point is 01:11:40 and roll train what about stopping all stationsping all stations to rock and roll or whatever it was. What about Rock or Bust? We're going to do a lot of rock. Or? Or Bust. Nah, don't care for it. Won't stop rocking. Well, they've got some good songs, but...
Starting point is 01:11:56 Yeah. Don't give a shit. Yeah. They're also... They're like Bon Jovi insofar as when they release a new song, it is completely indistinguishable from all their other songs. Like sometimes I'll hear a Bon Jovi song on the radio and I'm like, did they make that in 1985?
Starting point is 01:12:11 Would it have come out yesterday? I honestly have no idea. Was this on Crossroads? Correct. Yeah, good point. So in summary, do you care if Mad Max is Australian or not? No. Who are we going to get?
Starting point is 01:12:23 Steve Bisley? He's probably busy. He might be. He get? Steve Bisley? He's probably busy. He might be. He's probably really Bisley. I was going to jump in, but I thought I'm going to let you do it. Leave it to the professionals. Okay. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Do you all care about Judge Drew? Wait, who is this? I haven't got the name here. God, I'm not good at that sometimes. I can bring it up. Yankee Joe. All right, continue. Hang on. Do you want to find the name? No, it's fine. All name here. God, I'm not good at that sometimes. I can bring it up. Yankee Joe. All right, continue. Hang on.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Do you want to find the name? No, it's fine. All right. Actually, now I do. Oh, God, just... All right. This is from Sam. A different Sam.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Uncle Sam. There we go. Worth the wait, I think. Definitely. Hey, guys, do you all care about Judge Dredd? And if so, what do you think about the possibility of his death slash retirement or something? And do you think if they replace him, they'll just use a clone? P.S., you all rock.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Keep up the good work. Is this the comic book Judge Dredd? I assume so. I assume so. I haven't read... I didn't know that he was... I haven't read comic book Judge Dredd in many a year. I don't even think I've ever read a Judge Dredd comic.
Starting point is 01:13:25 It's very Judge Dredd. Like it's very rare there'll be like an event. Was it like Mad Max-ish? No. It's future. Well, I guess the... The wasteland is. The wastelands are kind of...
Starting point is 01:13:38 When they go on the long walk, which is when a judge is like cast out or they retire. Yeah, yeah. They can choose to go on the long walk where they just go out and try to bring law to the lawlessness and get killed, presumably. There's a really good Judge Dredd short film. Minty.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Minty, there we go. We talked about that. Yeah, we talked about that, which is really good. Yeah, Judge Dredd, the actual event stuff in Judge Dredd, it's been going for 30 years or something, but the actual event stuff is Judge Dredd, like it's been going for like 30 years or something. But like the actual event stuff is like quite few, you know, few and far between. Most of it, it's just self-contained stories.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Yeah. You know, somebody will commit a crime or something or something that approaches being a crime and then Judge Dredd will put him in jail for 50 years or kill them. You know, it's... That's the two things. I like Judge Dredd.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Me too. Yeah. Like he's more a... Yeah, it's... That's the two things. I like Judge Dredd. Me too. Yeah. Like he's more a... Yeah, he's not really a character more that he's just like this satire of Thatcher's Britain kind of thing, but he's American. And there's never been a more timely...
Starting point is 01:14:34 Yeah, exactly. Actually, they're saying that Thatcher's Britain has returned in that UK election. I hope Dredd comes and kills them all. That's what I'm saying. I quite like Judge Dredd. I'm sad there probably won't be another Dredd movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Look, to be fair, if they make another Dredd movie, it will make zero money again. But that's a really great movie. So, you know what? I want them to make it, but yeah, like you said. I'm a big fan of all the 2008 characters. Okay, sure. I'd like to see a Rogue Trooper movie.
Starting point is 01:15:00 That will never happen. Don't know who that is. He's a blue Rogue Trooper. He's always having a bloody blue mate correct great yep all right cool i like both judge dread movies for different reasons the first one's pretty fun the part where stallone goes i don't think he ever says that no he does he says it multiple times this is from Liam. This is specifically to you. Wait, did we answer that question about Judge Dredd?
Starting point is 01:15:29 Oh, yeah. Yeah, that might replace him with a clone, I guess, because he takes drugs and stuff, doesn't he, so he doesn't age. Is that right? Because everybody else kind of ages around him, and he kind of stays the same age. That's my understanding of it, because I think I've read a lot of Judge Dredd Wikipedia.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Oh, sure, yeah. But I've never... I've not thought about it. I don't know. Remember they replaced him with Armand de Sante. Yeah. Here's the thing, if they kill him in the comic books,
Starting point is 01:15:53 they'd probably only do it like as a one... It'd be like, you know, one of the... Like, you ever see that movie Beer Fest? Yes. Where one of the characters is killed. No, I haven't. Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway, one of the characters is killed and then, I haven't. Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway, one of the characters is killed
Starting point is 01:16:05 and then is immediately replaced by his twin brother who arrives and then insists, just for convenience sake, to honor the dead brother. They call him by the dead brother's name. And then the movie continues as if nothing happened. That's what would happen in Judge Dredd is Dredd would be killed or whatever
Starting point is 01:16:21 and then they would just clone him and replace him and nobody would say anything sure that would be because that's that's the character really it's irrelevant yeah whether he's original or a clone if they replace him with somebody should that person also be stoic yes okay good this is to you this is from liam i'm ready he wants he just wants to know why you don't have a youtube channel a lot of people ask me that i think maybe you should address it am i legally required to have a youtube channel absolutely not lot of people ask me that. I think maybe you should address it. Am I legally required to have a YouTube channel? Absolutely not. I mean, legally you are. I'm on your YouTube channel some of the time. That's fine. I got nothing to say on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I don't know. All right. I just, a lot of people say it. If I thought of something to say that require a visual medium, I'd bloody get a YouTube channel. You don't have much to say, do you? No. Some would argue I don't have much to say either i think you'd i think you'd be great if you have one but you know it's not something you're interested in the meantime we've got an itunes channel that's correct it's this one where you're pointing yeah yeah all right this is for about this is the last one that this is first of all the the headline is dave coulier confirmed for full house yes which we know that means we're going to get a lot of Dave Crulia stories. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Because I got one. For those who don't know, for new listeners, we have a very rarely updated segment, which we call Dave Crulia, in which we like listeners to email in stories where former Full House cast member Dave Crulia was mean to them. Yes. So if you could do that, that would be great.
Starting point is 01:17:43 And now that there's going to be a new Full House series. I'm just worried that people are going to start sending fake ones yeah but we can we'll be able to tell no yeah but yeah anyway this is the latest one also i met dave coulier once at a basketball game and i asked him for an autograph which he gave to me and as i walked away i heard him say under his breath to his friends fucking fans good work, Dave Crullier. We've brought it back. Love it. Pretty good, eh? Oh, so good. That seems like the kind of thing he would do.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Yeah. Yeah. Why be like that? I don't know. Why not be like, you should be happy that people like you. Yeah. And you're rich and whatever. And you've got that song about you that Alanis Morissette sings.
Starting point is 01:18:22 I don't know. We haven't got a song written about us except for the Weekly Planet theme tune oh yeah we do oh the brute emailed in he said he's gonna put something together
Starting point is 01:18:30 like a newish kind of thing oh interesting he's gonna do it the whole big studio deal what yeah that's amazing oh he had an email
Starting point is 01:18:36 he had something in his email as well hey did we get this email you can cut this out but did you get an email from Stephen Fleshing about an Eddie Murphy story he said he was gonna email
Starting point is 01:18:44 he had an on set Eddie Murphy story? He said he was going to email here. Oh, I can check. He had an on-set Eddie Murphy story. Eddie Murphy. I haven't. I'm a bit behind on my emails, to be honest. Oh, yeah, Stephen. Yep. Hey, James and Mace.
Starting point is 01:18:53 My name is Stephen, writing to you from California. I love the show. I'd especially love when you guys read stories about people's encounters with celebrities. Well, I've got one about Eddie Murphy, star of the classic, much-loved superhero movie, Meteor Man. I don't think that's true. Might be thinking of Pluto Nash. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:09 And yes, my family and I were on vacation in Lake Tahoe. We were on a beach and got to talking to a couple who were next to us. I mentioned to them that I'm a huge movie buff and want to work in the film business. He told me that he used to be a cameraman in Hollywood and worked on Eddie Murphy's Doctor Dolittle. He went on to tell us that Eddie Murphy required in his contract that he have a stand-in or stunt double performed the scenes in which there was an animal.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Have we talked about this? I don't know. I've talked about this recently to someone. I thought it was a good idea in case it was like a bear or a tiger went rogue like James Bond. He does go rogue, doesn't he? But that's not all. He said that Eddiephy was terrified of all
Starting point is 01:19:45 the animals including guinea pig squirrels owls rats and monkeys he said he said they finished the movie the finished movie is a result of stunt doubles painstaking editing trick photography and cgi which makes you have to wonder how desperate the studio was for money that they dealt with all that and still decided to make a sequel. P.S. Can I be the official Mr. Furious of the podcast? P.S. I haven't donated any money, so I recommend the podcast to three different people. So get off my back.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Three millionaires? Great. I hope so. That'd be great. That is astounding that you would agree to be in a movie entirely about speaking in close proximity to animals. And touching. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And you are deathly afraid of all the animals. That's amazing. Are you afraid of any animals? Only man, the most dangerous animal of them all. I guess so. No, I'm not afraid of him either. Bloody smash him. All right, so that's the show for this week.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Thank you to the Bruton Abacilisk for the themes. We're big fans of that. Yes. Where can they find you they can find me at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter and you're at Mr. Sunday Movies
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Starting point is 01:21:07 Who has time? Why don't we do Terminator and Jurassic Park are coming up. Okay. So why don't we do one of them maybe this week at some point.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Great. Which would you want to do out of them? Do you want to do Terminator 2 or Terminator 1? We've obviously got to do Let's keep it a surprise. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:20 To ourselves? Yes. We'll obviously only do the first Jurassic Park. Okay, great. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for listening, everybody. Yes. We'll obviously only do the first Jurassic Park. Okay, great. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Thank you for listening, everybody. Yep. Have a great week, I guess. Now let's just wander off into the desert. That's how we do this, right? That's how these end? Sure. We just sort of peters out and just fizzles away
Starting point is 01:21:40 and then we wander off into the desert. Next week we'll be back with even bigger mullets. Mel Gibson style. Grab that gem, everyone. Grab that gem, guys. Bye. We don't need another hero.
Starting point is 01:21:55 We don't need to know the way home. All we wanted was to go beyond the Thunderdome. He did want to go beyond the Thunderdome He did want to go beyond the Thunderdome. Yeah, he did, didn't he? Alright.

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