The Weekly Planet - Aliens - Caravan Of Garbage
Episode Date: August 1, 2024There are very few sequels that are able to match the original or potentially surpass it. James Cameron's Aliens is one of those films. Arriving in 1986 seven years after the last it marks the return ...of Sigorney Weavers Ellen Ripley whom is awoken from cryosleep 57 years after the events of Alien 1979. Great movies and good vibes. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravana Garbage where we're making our way
through the aliens movies. That's right. But the. But the four Sigourney Weaver ones.
The Tetralogy as they're called.
Wow. Oh yeah, it's not a quadrilogy is it?
I mean I guess. Language evolves, James.
Does it?
Yeah, like Aliens. It evolves.
Oh yeah, they do evolve in this because they've got a big one. There's a big one in this.
There's a big one in this.
And it goes, boo, I'm a big one.
Yep.
Anyway, that's the kind of incisive commentary you're gonna get from us on this classic film.
Absolutely.
It's one of the big ones.
It sure is.
Leave a like if you could because this is an incredible movie.
It is.
I was so excited to rewatch this as well.
Me too, and I was all set to write notes, as I sometimes do with this, depending on the quality of the movie.
But then I was just gripped immediately and I just, I put my phone down, if you can even imagine.
I can't.
That is the quality of the movie.
You're reading off your phone right now!
What did people do in the 80s,
when they encountered a movie such as this,
that is so gripping and thrilling,
that they want to do something like put their phone down,
but they didn't have a phone to put down?
Did they put their home phone down?
They put their fondue.
I'll call you back, Gary.
I'll do this fax later, Gary.
Click. They put their fondue set
down in their conversation pit oh yep that sounds like the past to me yeah
it certainly does sounds like quite accurate yeah yeah ah man the crew
though they hated James Cameron you know all about this no so of course James
Cameron came on board for this he'd recently done the Terminator big
success low- budget, really particular
vision, nailed it right?
Absolutely. It seemed exactly like The Terminator.
It did didn't it? Yeah yeah.
In hindsight, man that movie's The Terminator isn't it? It's iconically The Terminator.
A lesser director would have made something that wasn't even close to being The Terminator.
No.
But he made exactly The Terminator.
It's perfect. So at this point though he was kind of unproven, at least he was over in the UK.
They hadn't seen Terminator or any of the crew.
This was filmed in the UK?
Yeah.
James, establish context if you wouldn't mind.
Sorry, it was filmed at Pinewood Studios in the OOK.
Okay, so for all the listeners know and the viewers know, this could have been filmed
in the US.
And the American crew had heard that he was untested in the UK
And they were therefore mad at him anyway. They hated James Cameron. They thought he was bullshit a bullshit brained idiot
I believe they said I don't I don't I don't have a specific quote
But I felt survived that I got from watching all the interviews. Yeah, I said he had a brain full of Tetley's
Which is the most mortal insult you can give
Yeah, yeah, so in order to convince them that he knew what he was doing, he arranged a screening
of The Terminator.
But they didn't turn up.
So that's fun.
Screening's terminated.
Wow.
Yeah.
This screening is tetlis.
It's bullshit.
The crew saw James Cameron and Gayle Anne Heard, who was a producer and also Cameron's
then wife, as inexperienced, overly
demanding and arrogant.
If I can cut in there for a moment, there's a lot of movies in Cameron's career where
it's like James Cameron and this woman who at the time was his wife.
That's true.
And then never again.
They're never mentioned in another one of these.
I think he ended up staying married to the woman from Titanic that he married.
That's my understanding.
The submarine.
Yeah, but Linda Hamilton was the wife between
these two wives. I'm pretty confident. Cameron and Herd though, they saw the crew as lazy,
insolent and arrogant. You'd want to light a scene a certain way and they'd be like,
no, no, you don't want to know what you're doing. If we've got these beautiful alien
sets, let's make them bright and beautiful. And he's like, no, grub, I'm a grub. I'm an American grub
So one of the few allies on the production though was production designer Peter Lamont
Okay and after a long and difficult shoot Cameron addressed the crew by saying that the one thing that kept him going through all of
This was the certain knowledge that one day I would drive out of Pinewood and never come back and that you sorry
Bastards would still be here. Oh
Yeah, they got it done though. They got it done out of Pinewood and never come back and that you sorry bastards would still be here.
They got it done though. They got it done. They figured it out.
And they made the movie Aliens. Which is pretty much dead on the movie Aliens.
With the benefit of hindsight it is very close to the movie Aliens.
But it was nearly a different movie because the studio at one point were thinking, let's
not get... Like the stupido.
Wow. But yes, let's not get Sigourney Weaver back, because her star had increased.
And he wrote this, James Cameron, under the assumption that she was on board for a sequel.
A lot of people have written alien movies with the assumption that Sigourney Weaver
was on board for a sequel.
Not always true.
It's true.
I mean, it's not always true.
So she hadn't even signed on and never been contacted, and when they eventually contacted her at the very last minute she obviously demanded a huge salary
and he didn't want to do it without her but he planted an industry lie that he was going
to move forward without her and he wasn't going to do so, he would have just left regardless.
She got $35,000 for Alien and $1,000,000 for Aliens plus an unknown percentage. So she
did very well out of it. This movie doesn't work without Ripley either.
No Tetley's in the head for her. No!
Got a good head on her noggin there. I agree.
Tell you what. Can you imagine this without Ripley though?
It'd be like one of those Aliens movies without Ripley.
It would be, that's true. I mean, but I mean, you know, she is the linchpin of this, but
I mean there is a good supporting cast in this.
Absolutely there is. Newt, Carrie Henn, first role, iconic scream.
Also last role?
Yeah, maybe, potentially. She became a teacher. They're still friends and stuff. Everyone's still friends on this. Everyone who's alive that is.
Everyone who's dead, mortal enemies for the people who are still alive.
Just a movie filled with absolute fucking legends. And I mean in terms of like the actors in it and also the characters.
I mean, you know Burke, right? He's a bad dude.
Yes.
But what an incredible character, right?
Just a slimy company man.
And you think maybe he does have some feeling?
That's your residual love for Paul Reiser
because of his performance in Mad About You.
That's true actually, a show I never watched.
Also, I could have sworn that he was wearing two ties in this,
but I'm thinking of Back to the Future 2,
where Marty McFly is wearing two ties in the year 2015.
In this future, everybody wears a standard issue 80s suit,
but they like flip the little back collar up.
Oh yeah. What do you think of that kind of retro futuristic future that they got going on here?
I mean, printing is atrocious. That picture of her daughter, my god. It's video camera technology, yuck. What are
we doing here? The Marines are all great. They filmed the opening scene last
because that way they kind of built a camaraderie and they went through basic
training together. Except James Rehmar was the original Hicks and he was
removed due to drug possession and Michael Bean was flown over like the weekend and like we need somebody
Somebody not currently in jail a drug possession James Rima is in this there's like a shot of him in the nest from behind
But yeah, I mean you would never know that I mean he's smoking a big doobie in the scene
Oh sure yeah, but I was gonna say you would never know that mr. Bean came on board for this one
Oh sure yeah, but I was gonna say you would never know that Mr. Bean came on board for this one You know
People not friends with James in real life would know that he has precisely one joke
Related to the aliens franchise and it's Michael Bean is Mr. Bean. I could use it for the Terminator franchise
Oh, that's true. Or the movie the Rock Mason. That's true. Yeah, you know. Yeah
Imagine Mr. Bean and he's in the Techno Nightclub. Oh my god
Terminator is all Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Yeah, well imagine Mr. Bean and he's in the Techno-R nightclub. Oh my god
He would be doing a weird dance. Yeah, he's got a turkey on his head and he'd probably get shot. Yeah
Or he's immortal. Yeah, I don't know man. I don't know what his deal is Yeah, either he'd get shot or everybody in the club would die except him
Bill Paxton is so fun in this.
Absolutely, like the immediate switch from the most confident guy in the room, or the
most puffed up chest, faux confident guy in the room, to a guy just predicting his imminent
demise immediately. So good.
I mean, incredible lines also. I know there's the game over line, but my favourite line
of his is, I can't even do it
But he's like your dog meat pal
I got I have not done that justice just incredible and you know, yeah like a lot of people in this
There's a bit of redemption, you know, like he grows out of his cowardness. That's true before he's dragged to his death
Yeah, I love that for him. Oh my god
But look, you know the story or the famous famous story, which may or may not be true about
how James Cameron pitched this, right?
As I understand it, he walked into a room full of suits, full of bloody stupido executives,
peh, peh, peh.
And he went to the whiteboard and he wrote the word alien, and everyone went BOOM.
We made that already!
Get out!
And then he's like, before I go, and then he wrote an S,
Mm-hmm.
And then he put a dollar sign.
And it said, dollar alien?
And then he rubbed it out quickly, and then he put the S on the other side, and he put a line, and it said, Aliens Dollars.
Oh my god.
And he wasn't wrong, mate. He wasn't wrong.
Quick red dwarf connection.
Mack McDonald, who's the captain in Red Dwarf, the head of the facility on LV-421.
Oh yeah, okay.
Love that.
Do you mean LV-426?
I mean whatever I mean.
I say what I said and I say what I do.
I mean the idea to increase this to multiple aliens with a hidden queen and going into
the hive and all of that and they're hiding in the walls and they're skulking about.
Yeah and they've got a motion tracker that doesn't work at all.
Yeah, I know, right?
It's completely useless.
Yeah, I mean, you know if something is in front of you, but then you just see it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's pointless.
It doesn't make any sense.
Also, but you're looking down.
Yeah, exactly.
So you can be surprised by the thing that's...
By the dot, there could be anything.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it's got a great sound effect, but speaking of,
has a gun ever sounded better in a movie? No. I mean a fictional gun at least. I mean Robocop,
he's got a big gun. He's got a big gun, it's true. And I know that like these are built
out of like real guns and etc but then the specific sound effect of this gun, and here
it is, is just incredible. Love Bishop, he's great great He's not a man is he no
You can tell you can tell we've watched this movie certainly
Knife trick is great. Obviously. I love this little little tidbit Lance
Henriksen said that Bishop would forgive people for their mistreatment of him since he knew that he'd outlived them all which is what he thought
As a child when adults were abusive towards him
Which I think is just a really interesting way to play this character.
Just when people are mean to him and he's just like, alright.
One day you'll die.
One day you'll die and I'll have been killed on screen by an alien, a predator and a Terminator.
Oh yeah! And that's fun, isn't it?
It is fun.
In the club with Paxton?
Oh you mean as in, I thought you meant the club as in the Terminator.
No!
Yeah yeah yeah yeah, okay yeah.
Was Paxton, yeah Predator 2.
Predator 2.
There we go, that's good stuff mate.
And I love that you know the character of Bishop or Lance Hendrickson can show up across
this franchise.
That's true because he's based on the head of Weyland-Yutani.
Or he isn't.
We'll talk about it next week but there's some speculation that the Bishop who shows
up in the next one is actually an android even though it's the whole thing.
It's a whole thing that will briefly touch upon
Mason. God imagine being a CEO with such power that you can be like
okay we're gonna build a line of androids and forevermore they're all
gonna have my face. Imagine in a couple of decades time we've all got a service
Android in our house that looks like Elon Musk. Weird chest. Yeah yeah what's he
keeping in there? Chilled beverages. A little fridge.
That's cool. I like that actually. Also this movie I feel like is really the poster child
of model work and re-projection. None of the models from the... Did you practice that?
No man. I wrote it in my notes but I didn't rehearse it. Okay. Alright. What? Do I deliver
it so well that you thought I'd... It kind of felt like, did you get paid by somebody who makes model work and rear projections?
In the 80s.
Yes.
Yes, and they said one day when you make a video about this you have to promote our work.
We're long out of business, by the way.
If anybody wants to, that would be great.
But none of the models from the original movie, actually, none of them survived.
I think, no, sorry, the original Alien ship did.
That's the same one. But the Narcissus, which is the Nostromo shuttle, they had to remake that just from like reference footage.
Right, because the old version, they taped a bunch of episodes of Doctor Who over the top.
Because they thought they wouldn't need the ship anymore.
Why would there be a second alien?
Right.
God, imagine if they had called this Alien 2.
Yuck.
You know they thought about that also, right?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's this little-
Alien 2, this time she's mad. Who? We don't know, anyway, it doesn't matter.
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This movie is mostly shot, like, in camera.
There are some, you know, some elements added,
like the electricity when the facility is blowing up.
You know, when Ripley's standing on the platform with Newton,
it's all blowing up behind her in this smoke and steam and whatever.
Like, that's rear projection. When the ship crashes down on the platform with Newton, it's all blowing up behind her and there's smoke and steam and whatever like that's
Rejection when the ship crashes down on the planet like that was filmed as a model and then no done as a reprojection Which you can tell now looking back at it
But it just really adds an atmosphere, you know to it and this is a great little trick that I love
So, you know when they all come out of their cryo sleep chambers. Yeah cigars at the ready exactly
Frozen cigars at the ready. That's right.
So each of those cost about $4,300 to build. US. But they needed $12. So that's mirrored
on both sides. There's only four. And just stuff like that, like, that's good stuff,
man. That is good stuff. It's such, I mean, we'll talk about the budget later, but it
looks so much better than it should. Because of just the ingenuity. And a lot of this is
like James Cameron and... Yeah. I mean,uity and a lot of this is like James Cameron and...
Yeah.
I mean, I think a lot of this stuff...
Just knowing exactly what you want to do.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that's probably the reason that the Terminator and Alien and this movie
have sort of...
And Terminator Dark Fate.
Have kind of...
And Terminator Genesis.
Exactly.
And Terminator 3, rise of the machines, have sort of, you know, been dragged out of that
era and are classics now because they, you know, they had the same
tools as everybody else in that era but they knew how to use them better and that's why
a whole bunch of stuff is sort of...
Lingering.
Lingering and other stuff has kind of slipped into a non-existence.
Absolutely.
And puppets, Mason.
I mean, the biggest puppet in this is of course the Queen.
Well, a lot of the aliens in this, it's a simpler design,
a lot of the times they'll just be in like a black spandex
with just like highlights of the costume
and that way they can kind of leap about.
You light them darkly, there's only like five or six suits
or whatever but they make it look like they're a hundred.
Again, it's cost saving.
But the Queen is just, I mean it can sprint.
Like it's a puppet, it's crazy.
Use the same technology that lets Kermit ride a bike.
Yeah, right.
You look at that, you're like, how's he doing it?
How's he doing it?
Pure movie magic is what that is.
Oh, that's the technology?
Yeah!
And wishes!
Oh, right.
So, H.R. Giger wasn't asked back for this.
Giger waits by the phone.
Well he pretty much did.
To be called.
Yeah.
But nah.
Giger keeps on waiting. You can do a video game in the 90s, Giger. No, what did. Giger keeps on waiting.
You can do a video game in the 90s Giger.
No, what they called Giger.
Blair.
That's what the Swiss sound like.
That's true.
Well James Cameron thought, well look, we've got most of the designs that we need already.
We've got the alien and a lot of the-
Sucked in idiot.
You shouldn't have given us so many great designs years ago.
And he's like, I got an idea for the Queen.
I can bag that out.
But James Cameron's also worried that he was gonna be
overwhelming and difficult to work with.
And Giga later expressed that there was disappointment
that he wasn't called, he was sad by the phone,
but he said it was beautifully done.
So, you know, that's a nice thing to say
for people who didn't call you.
That's true. Yeah.
So the Alien Queen itself had had 14 to 16 operators,
the head, the neck, the body, the legs,
the face, the lips, the body, the legs, the face,
the lips, the jaws and the tongue, they're all independently moving.
Sassy hip movement.
And there's no like, you can't erase wires or puppeteers, it's all in camera but you
just have to hide all of that, you know?
It's just, it's so well done.
And that reveal, you know when Ripley goes to, oh the story of this, have you ever seen
the movie Aliens?
It's basically that.
It's pretty much that.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Um, you know the end when Ripley goes after Newt and goes into the lair.
That reveal of the queen where you see like the egg and then it pans up over the egg sack
and then across to the queen and it's just sitting like a punch like a spot.
Like a rooster.
Like a rooster, yeah.
Fuck me, like that's... it's in, what a, what a rooster.
One of those terrifying really big roosters.
Yeah that's right.
Here's the clip.
It looks like it should be wearing shoes.
That big rooster mason.
And I think my favourite moment in this movie is where there's that understanding where
Ripley's gonna like, I'll torch this room if you, you know, if you make an attempt on
our life.
And as she's backing out the Queen signals one egg opens
And she just gives it a look like
Come on
What do we what are we doing here?
I bet it's just odd like it's just it just completely kicks off and just Bishop getting absolutely fucking
Shredded right that twist and that just wet snap like the way that it pops out of his chest and all practical
obviously, that's a bishop puppet that they just tore into, just milk and ball bearings
everywhere. It's amazing.
Good thing of Beauty.
Yeah. Him having to lie in the floor for days and he was just covered in like milk and yogurt
and was like getting sick from it, no one would approach him because he smelled dreadful.
Just amazing.
I love it.
And the loader of course, which has a man in the back of it.
So it's puppeteered also, like it's on wires, but there's a person behind Sigourney Weaver
doing all the lifting and all of that.
And just again, like there's a reason that it's so iconic and you know, we've seen it
replicated in Avatar since and other James Cameron.
But you cannot beat this for design and execution. So true. I feel. Oh Mason, I've seen it replicated in Avatar since another James Cameron, but you cannot beat this for design and execution
So true. I feel. Oh Mason. I've got a segment here. What's the segment James? The segment's called favorite moments
Here's some favorite moments that I have
Okay, alright. From the movie that I haven't yet talked about if you don't mind. Okay, a few favorite moments.
Yeah, the facehugger attack. Uh-huh. Well, there's just Ripley and Newton in a room and they're just scuttering about. Just a good bit of tension
You know just elevating a bit of that face hugger law
You see what they're capable of because you only really see them leap out and onto a face at that point
You know people are still putting their faces over eggs by the way come on. It's yeah
2191 or something you've seen any previous alien movies. What are you doing? Come on? These were big hits? Yeah anyway?
That's a favorite moment. Yeah, me too
I'm just I'm I'm telling them. I'm telling it's my favorite. Okay. Well, I'm gonna punctuate it by saying that's a favorite moment. Yeah me too. I'm just I'm telling them I'm telling it's my favorite
Okay, well, I'm gonna punctuate it by saying that's a favorite. Is it your favorite moment? No, I'm just saying it's a fight
Okay, cool. Cool. Cool. The alien rising out of the water like that imagery love that. That's a favorite moment
I agree and Bishop doing a big vom
When I was a kid and I saw this I didn't know he was
An Android like I saw it so young I didn't know this the line of dialogue. I didn't know he was an android. Like I saw it so young.
I didn't know that-
He missed the line of dialogue.
Yeah, I didn't know he wasn't a bloke.
Like, cause it's kind of, it's feeling like a chest bursting scene.
So like, even if you knew he was an android, which you should, cause they say it multiple
times.
Absolutely.
It looks like he's being chest burst.
And then I remember as a kid just watching him like vomit milk and just like, what is
happening?
Just freaking out watching this movie. Yeah, so that was a scary moment at the time
But now you've not around it's a favorite one of my favorite moments
Yeah, that's a great recurring segment that we do every week. I think so, isn't it and speaking of Mason?
Maybe next week. I'll have some favorite moments this week none
zero
I like the movie Aliens.
Yeah, it's a good movie.
That's a favourite moment.
We've been talking about that a bit this episode, haven't we?
We definitely have.
Yeah.
Anyways, it's time for Trivia's.
Oh!
It's a trivia section.
Dollar sign at the end?
Yeah, absolutely.
Of course.
Lawrence would have thought of that.
He didn't just put it in when you said it.
It was there the whole time, I reckon.
Yeah, nice.
Because that would be unprofessional if he did it any other way.
The Alien Nest was kept intact after filming.
It was later used as the Axis chemical set for Batman 89. I love Batman
89. I know we did a video on it also. So goopy. When the Batman crew first entered
the set they found that most of the alien stuff was still intact. Blimey they
said. The blimey they said. Let's tape over this with an episode of Batman 1989.
In the original script whilst Ripley is rescuing Newt she
encounters a cocooned Burke in the power plant. He claims he can feel the
chestbuster inside of him and he asks for help and she hands him a live
grenade and she moves on. This is filmed it was um recently ish released. So here
it is obviously because Lawrence wouldn't put it in it would be unprofessional.
We talked about this and he didn't. But if you are interested in the further adventures of Carter Burke,
Boy, who wouldn't be?
There is a comic, and it is co-created by Paul Reiser.
It's called Aliens What If.
Mad about Burke.
So it's basically What If Carter Burke lived.
So it's set during the events of Aliens,
and then it obviously discounts that scene, he escapes,
and then it's set like 20 years after.
He's just relaxing in Beverly Hills by his pool.
No, he gets in an alien situation again.
But the interesting thing about that comic is, it's a what-if,
but it absolutely does not contradict the alien continuity at all.
Huh.
Yeah, which I thought was fun.
Uh, the portrait of Ripley's daughter is actually Sigourney Weaver's real-life mother.
Oh, I think I knew that, yeah.
Yeah, but did you know this?
The official story of her death may have only been a cover story to keep Amanda Ripley safe.
She's actually cryogenic suspension.
That's, oh you did know that!
I did know that, yeah.
Wow!
Because they did that in the Alien Isolation game spin-off comic book.
And so I guess that is because in case they ever wanted to have Amanda Ripley and Ellen Ripley ever meet again in the future. Which they definitely do want to. Yeah. Yeah. My god
That's so good Mason. That's I feel like that would be almost worthy of a prize
We don't do that here. No, I just gonna say what are you talking about prizes?
I don't know where that's in the book alien colony war if people are interested
Newt features in a deleted scene from The Predator.
Are you familiar with this?
Oh yeah, so for people who haven't seen The Predator...
Dreadful movie.
I was going to say dreadful is exactly the word I would use.
If you haven't seen it, don't see it.
So watch Prey instead, it's a better movie.
Yeah.
At the end, the heroes, we use that term loosely,
they reveal that in a lab they have a secret weapon
that they're going to use to defeat the Predator.
They recovered something or I can't remember specifically.
As I understand it, up until very late in the filming, the producers of the movie were
not sure what it was going to be.
It was going to depend on who they could get or what they could think of or what actor
they could get to be in it.
It might have been Dutch from the original Predator.
They were thinking Ripley at one point.
And yeah, they actually filmed one with Brianna Watkins as a stand-in,
as an adult coming out of cryo-sleep.
Okay.
And the idea they went with, the Predator Iron Man suit.
That would also have to be a time travel.
Yeah, it would be a time travel thing.
It would be a time travel cryogenic system.
Every one of those ideas is bad. Except Dutch maybe? I mean at least Dutch would...
I mean that makes the most sense. At least Dutch would work in a timeline sense but
why would he be in a storage unit? I don't know. Did he keep some of his
commando stuff in there and he got stuck one day? Sounds like he did. Yeah. Maybe he
got stuck in Ripley's toilet, which was a British Airways
toilet that they purchased for the film. It's a little airplane toilet in our apartment.
That's great. Very fifth element as well. Tiny little apartment, everybody smoking cigarettes.
Yeah, nice. God, it's a good time, isn't it?
Hell yeah. That one guy keeps asking us to do the fifth
element Caravan of Garbage. Huh, just one guy?
Yeah, it seems to be one guy. Okay.
We might. Maybe we'll do a series of movies directed by crook blokes.
Just absolute rotten blokes.
Oh Mason, where will we find so many movies directed by crook blokes?
I don't know. Not in Hollywood, certainly.
Anyway, the box office for this, on a budget of 18.5 million, it made 183 million, a little bit over.
That's actually 3 million
below Alien. But I would say this would almost have certainly made more money than the original
Alien in the long run. Oh absolutely. Betamax sales, Laserdisc sales,
Viewmaster Reels probably of Aliens. Yep. Just Bishop getting torn to shreds. Clickety click.
Love that. You know. Yeah absolutely. All of those things. Anticipation
for the next Alien movie, I'd imagine, you know? Some goodwill certainly carried over.
But Ridley Scott had thoughts about this movie. Don't you mean Ripley Scott? No. Interesting.
Should I? Maybe. I mean Ripley Scott. He said, although the sequel did go in another direction
than what he'd hoped for, he was impressed by the results. He said, it's always a tough job to follow a successful film with a sequel to it. So what I think James
Cameron did was an excellent action picture. It really was amazing what he accomplished.
I would never ever critique or criticize Aliens because I think it was very successful and what
he did was really good. Nice. Nice, isn't it? I mean, it is nice depending on the tone you
say that in. Oh yeah, you're right. I'd never criticize it.
It was really good.
It was really good and it did well so I couldn't criticize that.
I mean I made a successful movie which helped.
I mean it did.
It definitely helped.
And I made Blade Runner.
Yeah, yeah, he made Terminator I guess and Terminator 2 I guess.
I guess.
And some people think that the second Blade Runner is better than the first Blade Runner But I directed the movie I directed that Napoleon movie where Napoleon's like you just you just think you're the best because you have boats
You know that's a yeah, that's a good side is a very good say
But look Mason we're halfway through the the alien franchise
Oh, they're one obviously we are halfway through Ellen Ripley's terrible horrible
No, good very bad week because when you think about it. Yeah, it's not a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, it's just horrifying event cryo sleep second horrifying event cryo sleep. Are your daughter's dead? Yep
You die and then you were a clone again. Mm-hmm big wake big wake
Yeah
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