The Weekly Planet - Aliens - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

There are very few sequels that are able to match the original or potentially surpass it. James Cameron's Aliens is one of those films. Arriving in 1986 seven years after the last it marks the return ...of Sigorney Weavers Ellen Ripley whom is awoken from cryosleep 57 years after the events of Alien 1979. Great movies and good vibes. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers' internet. Visit Rogers.com for details. We got you, Rogers. Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravana Garbage where we're making our way through the aliens movies. That's right. But the. But the four Sigourney Weaver ones. The Tetralogy as they're called. Wow. Oh yeah, it's not a quadrilogy is it? I mean I guess. Language evolves, James.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Does it? Yeah, like Aliens. It evolves. Oh yeah, they do evolve in this because they've got a big one. There's a big one in this. There's a big one in this. And it goes, boo, I'm a big one. Yep. Anyway, that's the kind of incisive commentary you're gonna get from us on this classic film. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:00:45 It's one of the big ones. It sure is. Leave a like if you could because this is an incredible movie. It is. I was so excited to rewatch this as well. Me too, and I was all set to write notes, as I sometimes do with this, depending on the quality of the movie. But then I was just gripped immediately and I just, I put my phone down, if you can even imagine. I can't.
Starting point is 00:01:05 That is the quality of the movie. You're reading off your phone right now! What did people do in the 80s, when they encountered a movie such as this, that is so gripping and thrilling, that they want to do something like put their phone down, but they didn't have a phone to put down? Did they put their home phone down?
Starting point is 00:01:18 They put their fondue. I'll call you back, Gary. I'll do this fax later, Gary. Click. They put their fondue set down in their conversation pit oh yep that sounds like the past to me yeah it certainly does sounds like quite accurate yeah yeah ah man the crew though they hated James Cameron you know all about this no so of course James Cameron came on board for this he'd recently done the Terminator big
Starting point is 00:01:42 success low- budget, really particular vision, nailed it right? Absolutely. It seemed exactly like The Terminator. It did didn't it? Yeah yeah. In hindsight, man that movie's The Terminator isn't it? It's iconically The Terminator. A lesser director would have made something that wasn't even close to being The Terminator. No. But he made exactly The Terminator.
Starting point is 00:02:02 It's perfect. So at this point though he was kind of unproven, at least he was over in the UK. They hadn't seen Terminator or any of the crew. This was filmed in the UK? Yeah. James, establish context if you wouldn't mind. Sorry, it was filmed at Pinewood Studios in the OOK. Okay, so for all the listeners know and the viewers know, this could have been filmed in the US.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And the American crew had heard that he was untested in the UK And they were therefore mad at him anyway. They hated James Cameron. They thought he was bullshit a bullshit brained idiot I believe they said I don't I don't I don't have a specific quote But I felt survived that I got from watching all the interviews. Yeah, I said he had a brain full of Tetley's Which is the most mortal insult you can give Yeah, yeah, so in order to convince them that he knew what he was doing, he arranged a screening of The Terminator. But they didn't turn up.
Starting point is 00:02:50 So that's fun. Screening's terminated. Wow. Yeah. This screening is tetlis. It's bullshit. The crew saw James Cameron and Gayle Anne Heard, who was a producer and also Cameron's then wife, as inexperienced, overly
Starting point is 00:03:05 demanding and arrogant. If I can cut in there for a moment, there's a lot of movies in Cameron's career where it's like James Cameron and this woman who at the time was his wife. That's true. And then never again. They're never mentioned in another one of these. I think he ended up staying married to the woman from Titanic that he married. That's my understanding.
Starting point is 00:03:23 The submarine. Yeah, but Linda Hamilton was the wife between these two wives. I'm pretty confident. Cameron and Herd though, they saw the crew as lazy, insolent and arrogant. You'd want to light a scene a certain way and they'd be like, no, no, you don't want to know what you're doing. If we've got these beautiful alien sets, let's make them bright and beautiful. And he's like, no, grub, I'm a grub. I'm an American grub So one of the few allies on the production though was production designer Peter Lamont Okay and after a long and difficult shoot Cameron addressed the crew by saying that the one thing that kept him going through all of
Starting point is 00:03:57 This was the certain knowledge that one day I would drive out of Pinewood and never come back and that you sorry Bastards would still be here. Oh Yeah, they got it done though. They got it done out of Pinewood and never come back and that you sorry bastards would still be here. They got it done though. They got it done. They figured it out. And they made the movie Aliens. Which is pretty much dead on the movie Aliens. With the benefit of hindsight it is very close to the movie Aliens. But it was nearly a different movie because the studio at one point were thinking, let's not get... Like the stupido.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Wow. But yes, let's not get Sigourney Weaver back, because her star had increased. And he wrote this, James Cameron, under the assumption that she was on board for a sequel. A lot of people have written alien movies with the assumption that Sigourney Weaver was on board for a sequel. Not always true. It's true. I mean, it's not always true. So she hadn't even signed on and never been contacted, and when they eventually contacted her at the very last minute she obviously demanded a huge salary
Starting point is 00:04:48 and he didn't want to do it without her but he planted an industry lie that he was going to move forward without her and he wasn't going to do so, he would have just left regardless. She got $35,000 for Alien and $1,000,000 for Aliens plus an unknown percentage. So she did very well out of it. This movie doesn't work without Ripley either. No Tetley's in the head for her. No! Got a good head on her noggin there. I agree. Tell you what. Can you imagine this without Ripley though? It'd be like one of those Aliens movies without Ripley.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It would be, that's true. I mean, but I mean, you know, she is the linchpin of this, but I mean there is a good supporting cast in this. Absolutely there is. Newt, Carrie Henn, first role, iconic scream. Also last role? Yeah, maybe, potentially. She became a teacher. They're still friends and stuff. Everyone's still friends on this. Everyone who's alive that is. Everyone who's dead, mortal enemies for the people who are still alive. Just a movie filled with absolute fucking legends. And I mean in terms of like the actors in it and also the characters. I mean, you know Burke, right? He's a bad dude.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Yes. But what an incredible character, right? Just a slimy company man. And you think maybe he does have some feeling? That's your residual love for Paul Reiser because of his performance in Mad About You. That's true actually, a show I never watched. Also, I could have sworn that he was wearing two ties in this,
Starting point is 00:06:08 but I'm thinking of Back to the Future 2, where Marty McFly is wearing two ties in the year 2015. In this future, everybody wears a standard issue 80s suit, but they like flip the little back collar up. Oh yeah. What do you think of that kind of retro futuristic future that they got going on here? I mean, printing is atrocious. That picture of her daughter, my god. It's video camera technology, yuck. What are we doing here? The Marines are all great. They filmed the opening scene last because that way they kind of built a camaraderie and they went through basic
Starting point is 00:06:37 training together. Except James Rehmar was the original Hicks and he was removed due to drug possession and Michael Bean was flown over like the weekend and like we need somebody Somebody not currently in jail a drug possession James Rima is in this there's like a shot of him in the nest from behind But yeah, I mean you would never know that I mean he's smoking a big doobie in the scene Oh sure yeah, but I was gonna say you would never know that mr. Bean came on board for this one Oh sure yeah, but I was gonna say you would never know that Mr. Bean came on board for this one You know People not friends with James in real life would know that he has precisely one joke Related to the aliens franchise and it's Michael Bean is Mr. Bean. I could use it for the Terminator franchise
Starting point is 00:07:16 Oh, that's true. Or the movie the Rock Mason. That's true. Yeah, you know. Yeah Imagine Mr. Bean and he's in the Techno Nightclub. Oh my god Terminator is all Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Yeah, well imagine Mr. Bean and he's in the Techno-R nightclub. Oh my god He would be doing a weird dance. Yeah, he's got a turkey on his head and he'd probably get shot. Yeah Or he's immortal. Yeah, I don't know man. I don't know what his deal is Yeah, either he'd get shot or everybody in the club would die except him Bill Paxton is so fun in this. Absolutely, like the immediate switch from the most confident guy in the room, or the most puffed up chest, faux confident guy in the room, to a guy just predicting his imminent
Starting point is 00:07:57 demise immediately. So good. I mean, incredible lines also. I know there's the game over line, but my favourite line of his is, I can't even do it But he's like your dog meat pal I got I have not done that justice just incredible and you know, yeah like a lot of people in this There's a bit of redemption, you know, like he grows out of his cowardness. That's true before he's dragged to his death Yeah, I love that for him. Oh my god But look, you know the story or the famous famous story, which may or may not be true about
Starting point is 00:08:26 how James Cameron pitched this, right? As I understand it, he walked into a room full of suits, full of bloody stupido executives, peh, peh, peh. And he went to the whiteboard and he wrote the word alien, and everyone went BOOM. We made that already! Get out! And then he's like, before I go, and then he wrote an S, Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And then he put a dollar sign. And it said, dollar alien? And then he rubbed it out quickly, and then he put the S on the other side, and he put a line, and it said, Aliens Dollars. Oh my god. And he wasn't wrong, mate. He wasn't wrong. Quick red dwarf connection. Mack McDonald, who's the captain in Red Dwarf, the head of the facility on LV-421. Oh yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Love that. Do you mean LV-426? I mean whatever I mean. I say what I said and I say what I do. I mean the idea to increase this to multiple aliens with a hidden queen and going into the hive and all of that and they're hiding in the walls and they're skulking about. Yeah and they've got a motion tracker that doesn't work at all. Yeah, I know, right?
Starting point is 00:09:27 It's completely useless. Yeah, I mean, you know if something is in front of you, but then you just see it, right? Yeah, yeah. It's pointless. It doesn't make any sense. Also, but you're looking down. Yeah, exactly. So you can be surprised by the thing that's...
Starting point is 00:09:38 By the dot, there could be anything. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's got a great sound effect, but speaking of, has a gun ever sounded better in a movie? No. I mean a fictional gun at least. I mean Robocop, he's got a big gun. He's got a big gun, it's true. And I know that like these are built out of like real guns and etc but then the specific sound effect of this gun, and here it is, is just incredible. Love Bishop, he's great great He's not a man is he no You can tell you can tell we've watched this movie certainly
Starting point is 00:10:10 Knife trick is great. Obviously. I love this little little tidbit Lance Henriksen said that Bishop would forgive people for their mistreatment of him since he knew that he'd outlived them all which is what he thought As a child when adults were abusive towards him Which I think is just a really interesting way to play this character. Just when people are mean to him and he's just like, alright. One day you'll die. One day you'll die and I'll have been killed on screen by an alien, a predator and a Terminator. Oh yeah! And that's fun, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:10:38 It is fun. In the club with Paxton? Oh you mean as in, I thought you meant the club as in the Terminator. No! Yeah yeah yeah yeah, okay yeah. Was Paxton, yeah Predator 2. Predator 2. There we go, that's good stuff mate.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And I love that you know the character of Bishop or Lance Hendrickson can show up across this franchise. That's true because he's based on the head of Weyland-Yutani. Or he isn't. We'll talk about it next week but there's some speculation that the Bishop who shows up in the next one is actually an android even though it's the whole thing. It's a whole thing that will briefly touch upon Mason. God imagine being a CEO with such power that you can be like
Starting point is 00:11:10 okay we're gonna build a line of androids and forevermore they're all gonna have my face. Imagine in a couple of decades time we've all got a service Android in our house that looks like Elon Musk. Weird chest. Yeah yeah what's he keeping in there? Chilled beverages. A little fridge. That's cool. I like that actually. Also this movie I feel like is really the poster child of model work and re-projection. None of the models from the... Did you practice that? No man. I wrote it in my notes but I didn't rehearse it. Okay. Alright. What? Do I deliver it so well that you thought I'd... It kind of felt like, did you get paid by somebody who makes model work and rear projections?
Starting point is 00:11:48 In the 80s. Yes. Yes, and they said one day when you make a video about this you have to promote our work. We're long out of business, by the way. If anybody wants to, that would be great. But none of the models from the original movie, actually, none of them survived. I think, no, sorry, the original Alien ship did. That's the same one. But the Narcissus, which is the Nostromo shuttle, they had to remake that just from like reference footage.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Right, because the old version, they taped a bunch of episodes of Doctor Who over the top. Because they thought they wouldn't need the ship anymore. Why would there be a second alien? Right. God, imagine if they had called this Alien 2. Yuck. You know they thought about that also, right? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's this little- Alien 2, this time she's mad. Who? We don't know, anyway, it doesn't matter. We don't know who was in it yet, right? for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers Internet. Visit Rogers.com for details. We got you, Rogers. This movie is mostly shot, like, in camera. There are some, you know, some elements added, like the electricity when the facility is blowing up.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You know, when Ripley's standing on the platform with Newton, it's all blowing up behind her in this smoke and steam and whatever. Like, that's rear projection. When the ship crashes down on the platform with Newton, it's all blowing up behind her and there's smoke and steam and whatever like that's Rejection when the ship crashes down on the planet like that was filmed as a model and then no done as a reprojection Which you can tell now looking back at it But it just really adds an atmosphere, you know to it and this is a great little trick that I love So, you know when they all come out of their cryo sleep chambers. Yeah cigars at the ready exactly Frozen cigars at the ready. That's right. So each of those cost about $4,300 to build. US. But they needed $12. So that's mirrored
Starting point is 00:13:31 on both sides. There's only four. And just stuff like that, like, that's good stuff, man. That is good stuff. It's such, I mean, we'll talk about the budget later, but it looks so much better than it should. Because of just the ingenuity. And a lot of this is like James Cameron and... Yeah. I mean,uity and a lot of this is like James Cameron and... Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of this stuff... Just knowing exactly what you want to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I mean, I think that's probably the reason that the Terminator and Alien and this movie have sort of... And Terminator Dark Fate. Have kind of... And Terminator Genesis. Exactly. And Terminator 3, rise of the machines, have sort of, you know, been dragged out of that era and are classics now because they, you know, they had the same
Starting point is 00:14:06 tools as everybody else in that era but they knew how to use them better and that's why a whole bunch of stuff is sort of... Lingering. Lingering and other stuff has kind of slipped into a non-existence. Absolutely. And puppets, Mason. I mean, the biggest puppet in this is of course the Queen. Well, a lot of the aliens in this, it's a simpler design,
Starting point is 00:14:25 a lot of the times they'll just be in like a black spandex with just like highlights of the costume and that way they can kind of leap about. You light them darkly, there's only like five or six suits or whatever but they make it look like they're a hundred. Again, it's cost saving. But the Queen is just, I mean it can sprint. Like it's a puppet, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Use the same technology that lets Kermit ride a bike. Yeah, right. You look at that, you're like, how's he doing it? How's he doing it? Pure movie magic is what that is. Oh, that's the technology? Yeah! And wishes!
Starting point is 00:14:55 Oh, right. So, H.R. Giger wasn't asked back for this. Giger waits by the phone. Well he pretty much did. To be called. Yeah. But nah. Giger keeps on waiting. You can do a video game in the 90s, Giger. No, what did. Giger keeps on waiting.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You can do a video game in the 90s Giger. No, what they called Giger. Blair. That's what the Swiss sound like. That's true. Well James Cameron thought, well look, we've got most of the designs that we need already. We've got the alien and a lot of the- Sucked in idiot.
Starting point is 00:15:18 You shouldn't have given us so many great designs years ago. And he's like, I got an idea for the Queen. I can bag that out. But James Cameron's also worried that he was gonna be overwhelming and difficult to work with. And Giga later expressed that there was disappointment that he wasn't called, he was sad by the phone, but he said it was beautifully done.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So, you know, that's a nice thing to say for people who didn't call you. That's true. Yeah. So the Alien Queen itself had had 14 to 16 operators, the head, the neck, the body, the legs, the face, the lips, the body, the legs, the face, the lips, the jaws and the tongue, they're all independently moving. Sassy hip movement.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And there's no like, you can't erase wires or puppeteers, it's all in camera but you just have to hide all of that, you know? It's just, it's so well done. And that reveal, you know when Ripley goes to, oh the story of this, have you ever seen the movie Aliens? It's basically that. It's pretty much that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Hmm. Um, you know the end when Ripley goes after Newt and goes into the lair. That reveal of the queen where you see like the egg and then it pans up over the egg sack and then across to the queen and it's just sitting like a punch like a spot. Like a rooster. Like a rooster, yeah. Fuck me, like that's... it's in, what a, what a rooster. One of those terrifying really big roosters.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah that's right. Here's the clip. It looks like it should be wearing shoes. That big rooster mason. And I think my favourite moment in this movie is where there's that understanding where Ripley's gonna like, I'll torch this room if you, you know, if you make an attempt on our life. And as she's backing out the Queen signals one egg opens
Starting point is 00:16:46 And she just gives it a look like Come on What do we what are we doing here? I bet it's just odd like it's just it just completely kicks off and just Bishop getting absolutely fucking Shredded right that twist and that just wet snap like the way that it pops out of his chest and all practical obviously, that's a bishop puppet that they just tore into, just milk and ball bearings everywhere. It's amazing. Good thing of Beauty.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah. Him having to lie in the floor for days and he was just covered in like milk and yogurt and was like getting sick from it, no one would approach him because he smelled dreadful. Just amazing. I love it. And the loader of course, which has a man in the back of it. So it's puppeteered also, like it's on wires, but there's a person behind Sigourney Weaver doing all the lifting and all of that. And just again, like there's a reason that it's so iconic and you know, we've seen it
Starting point is 00:17:40 replicated in Avatar since and other James Cameron. But you cannot beat this for design and execution. So true. I feel. Oh Mason, I've seen it replicated in Avatar since another James Cameron, but you cannot beat this for design and execution So true. I feel. Oh Mason. I've got a segment here. What's the segment James? The segment's called favorite moments Here's some favorite moments that I have Okay, alright. From the movie that I haven't yet talked about if you don't mind. Okay, a few favorite moments. Yeah, the facehugger attack. Uh-huh. Well, there's just Ripley and Newton in a room and they're just scuttering about. Just a good bit of tension You know just elevating a bit of that face hugger law You see what they're capable of because you only really see them leap out and onto a face at that point
Starting point is 00:18:10 You know people are still putting their faces over eggs by the way come on. It's yeah 2191 or something you've seen any previous alien movies. What are you doing? Come on? These were big hits? Yeah anyway? That's a favorite moment. Yeah, me too I'm just I'm I'm telling them. I'm telling it's my favorite. Okay. Well, I'm gonna punctuate it by saying that's a favorite moment. Yeah me too. I'm just I'm telling them I'm telling it's my favorite Okay, well, I'm gonna punctuate it by saying that's a favorite. Is it your favorite moment? No, I'm just saying it's a fight Okay, cool. Cool. Cool. The alien rising out of the water like that imagery love that. That's a favorite moment I agree and Bishop doing a big vom When I was a kid and I saw this I didn't know he was
Starting point is 00:18:43 An Android like I saw it so young I didn't know this the line of dialogue. I didn't know he was an android. Like I saw it so young. I didn't know that- He missed the line of dialogue. Yeah, I didn't know he wasn't a bloke. Like, cause it's kind of, it's feeling like a chest bursting scene. So like, even if you knew he was an android, which you should, cause they say it multiple times. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:58 It looks like he's being chest burst. And then I remember as a kid just watching him like vomit milk and just like, what is happening? Just freaking out watching this movie. Yeah, so that was a scary moment at the time But now you've not around it's a favorite one of my favorite moments Yeah, that's a great recurring segment that we do every week. I think so, isn't it and speaking of Mason? Maybe next week. I'll have some favorite moments this week none zero
Starting point is 00:19:23 I like the movie Aliens. Yeah, it's a good movie. That's a favourite moment. We've been talking about that a bit this episode, haven't we? We definitely have. Yeah. Anyways, it's time for Trivia's. Oh!
Starting point is 00:19:32 It's a trivia section. Dollar sign at the end? Yeah, absolutely. Of course. Lawrence would have thought of that. He didn't just put it in when you said it. It was there the whole time, I reckon. Yeah, nice.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Because that would be unprofessional if he did it any other way. The Alien Nest was kept intact after filming. It was later used as the Axis chemical set for Batman 89. I love Batman 89. I know we did a video on it also. So goopy. When the Batman crew first entered the set they found that most of the alien stuff was still intact. Blimey they said. The blimey they said. Let's tape over this with an episode of Batman 1989. In the original script whilst Ripley is rescuing Newt she encounters a cocooned Burke in the power plant. He claims he can feel the
Starting point is 00:20:10 chestbuster inside of him and he asks for help and she hands him a live grenade and she moves on. This is filmed it was um recently ish released. So here it is obviously because Lawrence wouldn't put it in it would be unprofessional. We talked about this and he didn't. But if you are interested in the further adventures of Carter Burke, Boy, who wouldn't be? There is a comic, and it is co-created by Paul Reiser. It's called Aliens What If. Mad about Burke.
Starting point is 00:20:34 So it's basically What If Carter Burke lived. So it's set during the events of Aliens, and then it obviously discounts that scene, he escapes, and then it's set like 20 years after. He's just relaxing in Beverly Hills by his pool. No, he gets in an alien situation again. But the interesting thing about that comic is, it's a what-if, but it absolutely does not contradict the alien continuity at all.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Huh. Yeah, which I thought was fun. Uh, the portrait of Ripley's daughter is actually Sigourney Weaver's real-life mother. Oh, I think I knew that, yeah. Yeah, but did you know this? The official story of her death may have only been a cover story to keep Amanda Ripley safe. She's actually cryogenic suspension. That's, oh you did know that!
Starting point is 00:21:14 I did know that, yeah. Wow! Because they did that in the Alien Isolation game spin-off comic book. And so I guess that is because in case they ever wanted to have Amanda Ripley and Ellen Ripley ever meet again in the future. Which they definitely do want to. Yeah. Yeah. My god That's so good Mason. That's I feel like that would be almost worthy of a prize We don't do that here. No, I just gonna say what are you talking about prizes? I don't know where that's in the book alien colony war if people are interested Newt features in a deleted scene from The Predator.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Are you familiar with this? Oh yeah, so for people who haven't seen The Predator... Dreadful movie. I was going to say dreadful is exactly the word I would use. If you haven't seen it, don't see it. So watch Prey instead, it's a better movie. Yeah. At the end, the heroes, we use that term loosely,
Starting point is 00:22:03 they reveal that in a lab they have a secret weapon that they're going to use to defeat the Predator. They recovered something or I can't remember specifically. As I understand it, up until very late in the filming, the producers of the movie were not sure what it was going to be. It was going to depend on who they could get or what they could think of or what actor they could get to be in it. It might have been Dutch from the original Predator.
Starting point is 00:22:26 They were thinking Ripley at one point. And yeah, they actually filmed one with Brianna Watkins as a stand-in, as an adult coming out of cryo-sleep. Okay. And the idea they went with, the Predator Iron Man suit. That would also have to be a time travel. Yeah, it would be a time travel thing. It would be a time travel cryogenic system.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Every one of those ideas is bad. Except Dutch maybe? I mean at least Dutch would... I mean that makes the most sense. At least Dutch would work in a timeline sense but why would he be in a storage unit? I don't know. Did he keep some of his commando stuff in there and he got stuck one day? Sounds like he did. Yeah. Maybe he got stuck in Ripley's toilet, which was a British Airways toilet that they purchased for the film. It's a little airplane toilet in our apartment. That's great. Very fifth element as well. Tiny little apartment, everybody smoking cigarettes. Yeah, nice. God, it's a good time, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:23:16 Hell yeah. That one guy keeps asking us to do the fifth element Caravan of Garbage. Huh, just one guy? Yeah, it seems to be one guy. Okay. We might. Maybe we'll do a series of movies directed by crook blokes. Just absolute rotten blokes. Oh Mason, where will we find so many movies directed by crook blokes? I don't know. Not in Hollywood, certainly. Anyway, the box office for this, on a budget of 18.5 million, it made 183 million, a little bit over.
Starting point is 00:23:44 That's actually 3 million below Alien. But I would say this would almost have certainly made more money than the original Alien in the long run. Oh absolutely. Betamax sales, Laserdisc sales, Viewmaster Reels probably of Aliens. Yep. Just Bishop getting torn to shreds. Clickety click. Love that. You know. Yeah absolutely. All of those things. Anticipation for the next Alien movie, I'd imagine, you know? Some goodwill certainly carried over. But Ridley Scott had thoughts about this movie. Don't you mean Ripley Scott? No. Interesting. Should I? Maybe. I mean Ripley Scott. He said, although the sequel did go in another direction
Starting point is 00:24:20 than what he'd hoped for, he was impressed by the results. He said, it's always a tough job to follow a successful film with a sequel to it. So what I think James Cameron did was an excellent action picture. It really was amazing what he accomplished. I would never ever critique or criticize Aliens because I think it was very successful and what he did was really good. Nice. Nice, isn't it? I mean, it is nice depending on the tone you say that in. Oh yeah, you're right. I'd never criticize it. It was really good. It was really good and it did well so I couldn't criticize that. I mean I made a successful movie which helped.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I mean it did. It definitely helped. And I made Blade Runner. Yeah, yeah, he made Terminator I guess and Terminator 2 I guess. I guess. And some people think that the second Blade Runner is better than the first Blade Runner But I directed the movie I directed that Napoleon movie where Napoleon's like you just you just think you're the best because you have boats You know that's a yeah, that's a good side is a very good say But look Mason we're halfway through the the alien franchise
Starting point is 00:25:22 Oh, they're one obviously we are halfway through Ellen Ripley's terrible horrible No, good very bad week because when you think about it. Yeah, it's not a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it's just horrifying event cryo sleep second horrifying event cryo sleep. Are your daughter's dead? Yep You die and then you were a clone again. Mm-hmm big wake big wake Yeah So yeah We're gonna be talking alien 3 next week and if you do want to see that early, you can actually head over to BigSandwich.co where it's not the only thing going on there. We've got a bunch of
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