The Weekly Planet - Hellboy II: The Golden Army - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

Despite theo first Hellboy underperforming at the box office home DVD sales meant a sequel still moved forward resulting in Hellboy 2: The Golden Army in 2008. And the result is a film that's bigger, funnier and with more golden armies than ever. With Ron Pearlman, Doug Jones and Guillermo del Toro firing on all cylinders it's not wonder people are still asking for the sequel that will never come. Thanks for checking out of Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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of Caravanta Garbage where we're talking about the Hellboy movies this week, 2008, Hellboy 2, The Golden Army. Woo! I don't remember Universal Studios having their website at the bottom of their logo at the start of movies. Was that a thing that they used to do, I guess, for a time? Wow, so everybody could crack their laptops open in theaters and go check out whatever

Web 2.0 was delivering for them. Probably some sort of interactive website where it's like Hellboy's hand and you click on the fingers and you get different things. Gallery. Yeah. Synopsis. Synopsis. Yeah. Cast. Behind the scenes. Maybe behind the scenes video? I don't remember what the internet was like in 2008, I'll be honest with you. Was YouTube around then? It was, yeah, barely.

But yeah, it was happening. Oh, it's mentioned in this movie. Oh yeah! That was when you could put anything on YouTube. And you can now, to a degree, but just nothing owned by a corporation. You could put a dead body on YouTube. Yeah! Lawrence, don't put the dead body video in.

Instead scrub through all of Hellboy 2 The Golden Army. Here it is. Here's the whole movie. Please leave a like because we're talking about what I feel is the best Hellboy movie. It's great. I love it. It is good. I remember at the time not loving it in comparison to the first one, but I rewatched it for this, James. I didn't just guess at what happened in this, I rewatched it. Because I'm committed to the quality of this video series. You're committed to making great content. That's correct, aren't we all?

Yeah. That's what YouTube's for. That's right. It's good. It's more Pan's Labyrinth. You know what I think probably, one of the things I probably disliked about it at the time was it felt like it was less Hellboy

and more Guillermo del Toro Using the kind of the bare bones of the hellboy concept to just do something else. That's exactly what it is Yeah, so how dare you so after he made pans labyrinth in 2006 It was approached by Peter Jackson to do halo, but he turned it down for this He was also asked to do and you want to do halo. I don't want to do halo So He was also asked to do- And do you want to do Halo? I don't want to do Halo, so if you could. Do you want to do it? Nah.

Okay, I'm gonna do- I guess we'll do a bad TV show in 10 plus years. Remember that show? No. It got canceled, I think, maybe. No. I don't know. No.

Master Chief, what's he up to? There he is. Yep. He's every episode of the Halo series. No. Um, he uh, he turned down I am Legend, One Missed Call and another Harry Potter movie, this one

The Half-Blood Prince. He turned down One Missed Call. What is that even? Yeah, that's right. From the studio. He said One Missed Call and he said no thank you. I don't recognise this number. They're probably trying to sell me something. Probably trying to make me do Halo. Yeah, probably. That's why I never answer the phone if I don't recognize this number. They're probably trying to sell me something. Probably trying to make me do halo. Yeah, probably. That's why I never answer the phone if I don't recognize the number because the studio is probably gonna make me do halo. It's probably more likely a crank call. Sure, or a bill collector. Yeah, absolutely. One of those things.

Yeah So off the back of Pan's labyrinth, he was basically given permission from the studio to do whatever so everything in this- You've got that labyrinth juice, Geremo. Exactly. Do whatever you wish. Even if it leans more towards weird fish sex again. Maybe a fish man could get a girlfriend, I don't know. Well, maybe, yeah, we'll talk about that later, Mason. So the story was still worked on with Mike Mignola,

but there's no elves or golden army in the comics. There might've been since, I'm sure. There's clockwork stuff. Yeah. There's elf-like creatures, you know? As you go into a bazaar and you go, this is bazaar. Yeah. So, Mignola was involved,

but every time he suggested anything, Guillermo was like, yeah, yeah, man. Yeah. We'll get right on that. If you've noticed that every property that Mike Mignola makes of Hellboy, including that new video game, the web of word or whatever.

Sure. And the 2009 movie. Hellboy teachers typing, the web of word or whatever. And the 2009 movie. Hellboy teachers typing, the web of word. And the new one, it's always like, well, this is really my vision. This one takes it back to what Hellboy really is. So yeah, also Ron Perlman, he actually turned down the role of Piccolo in Dragon Ball Evolution to do this movie again.

Can you believe it? Wow. So I mean, I assume there would have been some script alterations to get Ron Perlman in. He wouldn't be a high school student. No. Learning the kamehameha. I'd imagine not, yeah.

So, this time around, Hellboy, he's back and he has to, there's a prince and he wants to make a golden army, but he has a twin sister. And if one gets stabbed, they both get stabbed. That's twin rules. That's twin rules. That's just the lore of physics you can't change that. An agent Myers he's gone. Hellboy got him transferred to Antarctica. Apparently though

Rupert Evans who played him he was doing a stage version of Kiss of the Spider-Woman in London. Oh. I'm not- What is that a bloody Hellboy spinoff? A bloody Kiss of the Spider-Woman? Sounds like it. sounds like it. I Feel like he was never in this though, right? Is there room for that guy in this movie? Ah as a main player surely let me think no because there's no there's no elf for him to fall in love with no They wouldn't have had him be killed by the tooth fairies. Mm-hmm

Maybe that guy with a metal hand wink could smash him with his big metal hand. Oh, yeah, that's true Yeah, yeah, and then he could be like going without me. Yeah, I got smashed with a hand So big, you know who is a good inclusion in this? Is that it's luke goss? Who's that? He plays the prince. Oh sure. He's from bros Is he really a bros? Is that really him? That's really from bros British pop duo bros. It's really him. When will I be famous? Well, it turns out now in the movie Hellboy 2 the Golden Army, except I didn't recognize you so never is the answer. When will I be famous? He's also in Blade 2 which Guillermo del Toro also directed. Is he one of the vampires?

Yeah, probably. One of the freaky vampires? One of the face bleeding ones. I assume. I don't know. Look, I know people are asking when are we gonna get to the rest of the Blade movies when? One of the face-blooding ones. I assume. I don't know. Look, I know people are asking, when are we going to get to the rest of the Blade movies? When they make a Blade movie. Yeah, good luck idiots. Then we'll come back. Yeah, off the back of this though, I'm surprised Luke Goss just isn't in More Things. He's terrific in this. He's so good.

He's like one of my favourite elements of this movie. You know what, there's a lot of favourite elements. Luke Goss, you are one of many favourite elements of this movie. What's another one? Well, all the creatures and characters in general. So Johan Krauss, voiced by Seth MacFarlane. That's right. Of Family Guy fame. That's right. That suit, I mean amazing. Just a slightly more German Stewie. That's true yeah. That's most of his characters though right? Yeah. I mean that suit for the most part is practical.

They've hidden the guy's head in it. So but Seth MacFarlane is not the guy in the suit. No, he's not the guy in the suit. The guy in the suit's name is... Nice. There he is. Thanks, Lawrence. Wink, who I mentioned, is an amazing animatronic, the huge creature. Yeah.

I mean, there's like CG replacement stuff when he gets like bad at about, but for the most part, that's a man in a suit with an amazing animatronic head and fist and all of that. I like the part where Hellboy's hand of doom smashes into that guy's fist and he's like, oh, my fist. Yeah.

That was my favorite thing. And then Hellboy just lets him get completely mashed. Yeah. I couldn't remember whether he was like an Indiana Jones kind of guy where he might try and save you if he has to. Oh yeah, uh-huh. Sometimes.

The answer's no. He's just like, nah, no thank you. It's Star Wars rules. There's just like nah, no thank you. It's Star Wars rules, there's plenty of these weird fairy tale freaks, we can let a few go through to the keeper. Just let them all die, it's fine. I mean the troll market in itself is incredible and also just Hellboy doing violence on people is a lot of fun. A great line where that little baby's actually a tumour. Yes, that's right. And not a baby, yeah, exactly. Look, we mentioned this, but yeah, so basically they're trying to, the elf prince, well he

becomes the elf king I guess, because he kills the king. That's true. He wants to reignite the golden army to take things back. And I guess also, he's kind of right, because there's a speech where he's like, you know the humans, they've just run the earth into the earth? They've run the earth into the earth and it's bad now. When everything's a carpark, they've paved paradise, god damn it. That's right. I can't get a bloody big yellow taxi to save my life, which I think was the

point of that song. That's right, yeah. And so what happens here is, you know, he has to do that and then they have to stop him from doing that. And then Hellboy's like, you know what, I am going to kill the last one of these elementals that's ever existed because Star Wars animal rules. That's right. Bang you're dead Who cares? Oh amazing. I love that just that beautiful ancient creature that even in death it spreads life. It's amazing I mean look he did back hellboy into a corner. He released it. What's hellboy supposed to do? You know, you know Yeah, he did the right thing killing that terrible ish thing. That's right

I mean, it's not the right thing killing that terrible-ish thing. That's right. I mean it's not the worst thing in that scene there is a CGI baby, but it is. It's getting flung about like there's no tomorrow. It's not the worst CGI baby I've seen in a movie. You're thinking of Twilight? I'm thinking of The Flash. Oh yeah. But maybe Twilight also. Right? It's probably... I think I think visual effects guys in movies should stop making babies until I figure out what's going on And I mean in computers and in real life. I should stop making babies till you've sort your bloody lives out I completely agree another element that I love this most of the just creature stuff I guess it's Doug Jones in dual roles this time as the angel of death. Oh, yeah I mean, that's very pans labyrinth isn't extremely a whole situation. Where's his eyes? Somewhere else, probably. Yeah, it's on his wings, mate.

Yeah. Yeah. And just the idea of, I don't know, again, there's this thread of, a looming thread that Hellboy is going to usher in the apocalypse. I mean, not in this movie. Maybe in a future movie.

I mean, maybe. Not in this series. No. But maybe in a future Hellboy movie that's not connected to this series, potentially. Maybe, sure, yeah. Oh yeah, here's a section of the show called, they put a kid in that? Okay. So at the start of this, John Hurt returns and you see young Hellboy. That's right. A very, you know, and it's alluded to in the

scene, he's watching Howdy Doody. It's a very Howdy Doody look. He's got the big buck teeth, he's got kind of a 50s look to him. A lot of fun. And I thought, I don't think you're allowed legally to make a kid sit that long for makeup. Uh huh. Which is true. There are limitations around what you can do and how much a kid should endure. Sure. For Hollywood.

That's right. Haven't they endured enough? I mean, more than in real life, obviously. Yeah, yeah. Kids gotta suffer for art and content, you know what I mean? You gotta, yeah, exactly. Judy Garland was hooked on lead and cigarettes for The Wizard of Oz and it turned out brilliant, you know?

You can see it all on the screen and that's beautiful. But that young Hellboy boy was played by an adult and then 36 year old woman. Montse Ribe. That's right, yeah. Which is pretty incredible. It's blown my mind, to be honest. I looked it up, I'm like, who's that funny little boy? That's what I was like, something's not. Nothing adds up here. What is this?

And I I'm glad we both did our own research, Mason. That's right. Yeah. Sorry, one second. It's going to move a bit of. But but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but That's a very men in black. These movies are sort of increasingly men in black. Oh boy are they, yeah. You're enjoying the reappearance of, what's his name? The head of the BPRD, Jeffrey Tambor. Absolutely.

Just completely exasperated. There's too much Hellboy going on here. I gave him cigars, he fell out a window. And everyone hates him. Which I guess is fair enough. One of my favorite moments in this movie is also when Abe Sapien and Hellboy get drunk together. I think that's just an incredible moment.

Abe Sapien feeling certain feelings for the first time in his extended life. Again, Doug Jones returns not only in body but also voice as we talked about last week. David Hyde Pierce did not return. Probably not entirely necessary. Doug Jones does, he just does the voice, he can do it. Yeah, it's the Niles voice. Everybody can do the Niles voice. Oh, Frasier. No, that's not it. What is it? That's Frasier in a mirror talking to himself. Oh, Frasier! You've done it this time, Frasier! He's got his foot in a big bucket of caviar.

That's right. But I think also this movie just does action better as well than the previous one. Yeah, you know what I dislike about these movies, honestly? There's too much swooshing about. Okay. But I think that was a symptom of the era. Everybody was swishing about There was too much like Extraneous kind of I've got a knife and I'm swinging it around. I should about look look at how impressive I'm being

You know, so you don't like a swishing of a coat to do a turn Sometimes you like two men ones an elf ones a hellboy jumping over some cogs. I do quite like that I love that all those cogs are real. Those are real cogs spinning about. That's an amazingly choreographed action sequence. And I love all that stuff with the golden army. All of that is really, really good. And I love the way that they rebuild

and they're crawling and reassembling themselves. And all of that is just terrific. And of course the big surprise in this movie is that Liz who's returning as a character, a more fleshed out character, her fire is a different color, she's got a haircut. She's pregnant with not just one Hellboyz, but two Hellboyz. Two Hellboyz. Yeah, which would have lent itself to the sequel.

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Hellboy 3 2 hellboys. Yeah, hellboy 3 3 hellboys. That makes more sense to all hellboy 3 2 hellboys 1 hellgirl or 2 hellgirls. We don't know. Well, I can't talk about it Oh talk about the council sequel. Yeah, I think this is just I don't know there there is more of a Fable fairy tale men in black kind of yeah but there's room for that in this universe it's just a shame they only got to two yeah I would have liked the third one to be another just just awful little village or whatever filled with goblins you know that's what we pretty much got anyway yeah that's true yeah but no I think yeah I don't know the the ending of this it's really kind of bittersweet you know, he finds out that he's having twins

I think you meant the bit before that where where Liz uses her fire powers to melt the crown and therefore destroys the golden army And I'm like you could have done that earlier Way earlier. Oh, yeah, and I know Luke Goss from bros wanted to get the needed these it was like bring me the last piece of the thing and I'll you know I'll I'll otherwise I'll kill my sister or whatever did I not you do that you killing yourself aren't you that's a good point yeah so I would I would melt the thing and let the chips fall where they may it's a great one yeah Luke Goss from brass right you believe he's here mmm do you wish he

was in more things I feel maybe you shouldn't Google his politics oh if I had to guess you could Google his death race sequels. Oh, yeah, you took over from Jason Statham. Oh That's true. You know what first first death race movie not the first first one. I'm googling his politics Yeah, please the first death race movie as in for the reboot the Jason Statham one pretty good. I like that That's great. It's a bit of fun. Okay. Yeah. Here we go. What's the goss? On Luke Goss. Yeah. Wait a minute, he's bald!

Ha ha ha! Yes. Oh no! That's correct. You only like him because of his beautiful hair. I did! I thought that was his real hair! Oh, he's out of falling out with his brother Matt Goss. No! Matt Goss has said I'm sick of political correctness. Maybe I'm thinking of Matt Goss and not Luke Goss.

Why do you know so much about Matt Goss? I don't know. I think somebody tweeted about the Goss brothers from Ross. Right. You know? In conclusion, I don't know what I'm not interested in anymore. Let's assume he's fine. Guess what? Most people in Hollywood are crook. Just cut it in- Even some of the people in this movie-

Completely agree. Naming no names. But they're in the main cast and they're crook. Anyways Mason, it's time for Trivia, trivia gold and trivia. Now as the angel of death Doug Jones could only see out of the crack in the mask that he wore and the mechanical wings that he had weighed about 40 pounds. Initially he was supposed to walk around the set with them but he's like this is heavy actually. This is bloody heavy actually. I think I'll just sit down. Can the main attribute of this angel be that he just sits down a lot? Yeah. Because of the weight of the world. Let's say that's why. And then at the end instead of walking

off he can just disappear. Yeah. Just do it. Just fade out. Yeah. Just fade out. I'll ducked out. Yeah. Just fade out. The angel is also voiced by Doug Jones doing each line twice. One higher pitched and then one in a lower pitch and then blending those together. You get that kind of ethereal situation. The same sort of ethereal voice you'd get if you combined the voice of Frasier Crone and Arse Crone I think. Or the Goss brothers.

Or the Goss brothers. Political correctness is good bad. You know? Combine the two, find yourself somewhere in the middle. Two sides of the political spectrum in one family. Probably the same, if I had to guess. We talked about this last week, but yeah, Ron Pilman is left-handed. So he's not really working that hard, is he?

I knew it. Yeah, you did know it, yeah. Look, all this trivia boy stuff is terrific. Isn't it though? But last week- They should call us the terrific trivia boys. Agreed. But last week, you asked me if there was a connection

between this movie and The Shape of Water. Because of the fish sex. Yeah, and both of them Have Doug Jones as fishmen. Mm-hmm. Right having fish sex falling in love. That's right and the fish sex. Yeah Spawning very good now apparently as far as I can tell there is no Direct link there are fan theories that the shape of water is an Abe Sapien prequel, but it just doesn't make any sense. Oh, I see. Now that's more, I was more thinking what's in Guillermo's head. Yeah, I know, I know. I just wanted to throw that out there because somebody would have said it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when asked by the Daily Dead about the connection, Del Toro said, I don't want to repeat that. I don't want to repeat that. What did you say? If you take Abe Sapien and you put him in the Shape of water it wouldn't work. His primary color is blue and he's made of almost car-like design lines. He's a very comic book character. So what we did, we had to go ahead and make something different. But...

That sounds like somebody, if you'll excuse the pun, who's floundering right there. He's like, um, well no, because he's blue and he's like a car, actually. So it's not weird at all that I've done the same thing in another movie. And I added sex. Nobody's talking about that. We're all talking about it. What do you mean?

THR spoke to Doug Jones about this, about the role when he said, Guillermo was very specific. This might add some insight. We don't have any definitive answers, but here's some things you might wanna know. He did not want Abe Sapien in this film He wanted this to be very standalone. It's its own piece of art

Let's celebrate this own unique story that has nothing to do with Abe and then he said he has a love for fishmen and mermaids Anyway, the creature from the black lagoon was his favorite of the Universal Monsters But he wanted this one to be very different. There you go. It just loves a fish man Yeah, okay. I get it just loves a fish man man. That's all I need, a bit of honesty. Yeah, well what is interesting also there was going to be a spin-off movie called Hellboy Silverlance which was an Abe Sapien adventure which would also feature a small cameo from Hellboy and also the return of Agent Myers. If that film was successful it would have launched into a franchise under the title

Files of the BPRD. I love that idea. Didn't happen. Didn't, and I hate that it didn't happen. Yeah, me too. It wasn't Guillermo del Toro directing, but of course he would have had a hand in it. Anyways, in terms of box office-

Yeah, he would have loved to hand in that, Fishman. No doubts. Anyways, in terms of box office, on a budget of $85 million, it made $168.3 million, which is really good, right? It had a larger opening weekend and general box office than the first movie. But you know what came out the week after Hellboy the Golden Army in 2008? It was a night.

Hitch. It would be hitch. No, that was 2004. Yeah, I know. Well, I don't know. What was it? The Dark Knight. Oh yeah, that'll do it. Just, that was 2004. I know. Why don't I what was it? The Dark Knight. Oh yeah, that'll do it.

Just stomped this movie. It suffered a 70% drop. Again it did kind of do well in Blu-ray sales and the like and it is well regarded but that kind of that initial box office is the reason that the sequel never materialized, which is kind of unfair because we wouldn't, we don't really know how this would have gone if The Dark Knight didn't come out. That's a good movie. I mean for Heath Ledger's performance alone. That's correct, yes.

But you know it is kind of a shame that that movie killed both Heath Ledger and Hellboy 3. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, do you want to know the point of Hellboy 3? And by the point I mean what it's vaguely about and then why it didn't happen? Sure, let's do it. Cool. So it's about Hellboy. Yeah. Anyways, do you want to know the point of Hellboy 3? And by the point I mean what it's vaguely about and then why it didn't happen. Sure, let's do it. Cool. So it's about Hellboy and Liz's kids and one is like her and one is like him.

It's also about ushering in the apocalypse, etc. But I'm going to take a wild guess and say that there's probably a son and he's all fiery and there's a daughter and she's like Hellboy. They're mixing it up. They're mixing it up. They'd mix it up. Hellbaby. Yep. And fireboy, correct, right? So of course Guillermo del Toro was hired on the Hobbit movies before hellboy 2 was released

So he was tied up with that for a couple of years before he left We have covered the Hobbit movies in their own videos. Please check them out. What a fucking nightmare After that he moved on to Pacific Rim. Oh, yep. Sure sure sure in interviews He was still pushing for that to happen and then at one point he said well why don't we do it as a comic but Mike Mignola shut that down because he's already done those he said. No. I did him I'm doing them now. That's what you're adapting. That's what you did. Yeah Mo. Sort of adapting. But he shut it down and said it would it would be confused with the existing run of Hellboy

Which I don't think is true. I I would say the majority of people know Hellboy from the movies Yeah, I'm not saying there's not Hellboy fans out there Mason who loved the comics, right? That's all I'm saying now considering also the first two barely broke even the first one probably didn't but again They were both bolstered by DVD sales You couldn't justify the 120 million you'd probably have to put in to make this movie now Because it wouldn't it would go to streaming and then disappear immediately. There's no more money being made on that and of course in 2017 should we sell DVDs of caravan of garbage? Yeah, we should yeah. Yeah, they're for sale now. They're linked below That's right. We haven't paid for the rights to any of the clips. So a lot of it's just blank

You're gonna have to pay for the rights to the clips yourself. Okay, and then edit them in We will not provide a tutorial there will be like all the little animations of us being like, what are you doing? I'm whatever that'll all be there. Yeah. Yeah, all the good stuff all the good stuff. Yeah, that's right It's not region free though, no, absolutely not. Yeah. Yeah, it play on your player. And they are on CDs. They're not on DVDs. VCDs. They're on VCDs. So Guillermo del Toro, he tweeted this in 2017. Hellboy 3, sorry to report, spoke with all parties, must report that 100% the sequel will not happen. Is he doing this via like telegraph or something? Spoke to all parties. He wrote spoke W all parties. This is when there was a character limit I guess.

And this is to be the final thing about it. Hellboy may move in a different direction, heartbroken, but not up to me. I for one wish everybody involved the best of luck. I'd imagine he'd heard that they were rebooting it. And that's how that went down. But of course Ron Pillman did briefly reprise the role in 2012 when he redoned the Hellboy costume and prosthetics to meet a terminally ill boy as part of the Make a Wish Foundation, which is just fantastic. And that's the real Hellboy

3, making a wish and dream come true. Everybody shut up about it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So are we going to do Hellboy 2019? I think we should. Or do we take a week off to do Hellboy 2019? I think we should. Or, do we take a week off? Oh, just not- And get margaritas? Just not do anything.

We get margaritas and then we throw them at cars. Oh my god, that'd be so exciting. We could smoke those Cuban cigars. Exactly. We could try those that help- We could throw them at cars, Mason! Yeah. Yeah.

We could build a big metal fist on a chain and throw it at cars. But we should, like, we'll do Hellboy, we'll do the other one. Yeah, we'll build a big metal fist on a chain and throw it at cars. But we should, we'll do the other one. Yeah, we'll do that one. I like it a lot. I don't know. I know I'm the only one. I know not even David Harbour likes that one. But yeah, there you go. There you go. Alrighty.

Now if you don't want to see that early, you can actually head over to BigSandwich.co where all these videos go up there early, but that's not the only thing. We also do video game Let's Plays. We also do movie commentaries. We also do a comic book club, don't we? We've probably talked about Hellboy, or we will. It's up there definitely. We've said the word Hellboy.

We've said it a hundred times. We're also selling DVDs, as mentioned. It's a VCD, but yes. You can check that out, it's all there. It's several episodes of this on Jazz Drive. But also we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows that comes out every Monday. Of course we will be talking about the new Hellboy movie, That Crook Bloke, when it arrives in cinemas. Alright, is that everything?

That's everything. Alright, thank you Lawrence for the edits. Thank you Lawrence. Grab that jammy guys, we'll see you next week. Goodbye. Bye. Every summer my family is lucky enough to stay at an Airbnb. We pick a nice affordable area, take some time off and enjoy some beach time. Last summer we rented a cute beach house down by the Mornington Peninsula. Nothing beats taking some time off to disconnect, we rented some paddleboards and spent most of the sunny days drifting on the water. Bliss!

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