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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Caravan of Garbage,
where this week we go, what if the Suicide Squad, but, you know,
but whatever this is, I guess.
What if the Suicide Squad ripped off the roof of this place we record this in
and came in and made us watch the Suicide Squad?
Wow. I mean, The Suicide Squad.
Wow.
I mean, 2016 Suicide Squad.
I'm so sorry.
We're going to be doing this a lot.
Yeah, absolutely we are.
You know what?
Look, we're always talking about the 2016 one unless we specifically say we're not.
Honestly, we are always talking about 2016 Suicide Squad.
We've covered this extensively.
We reviewed it on our podcast, The Weekly Planet, when it came out.
We've done a commentary on it for some reason.
We were like, people wouldn't be interested in David Ayer talking about the movie Suicide Squad.
We should talk over the top of it and talk about a raisin man and whatever else we talked about.
Exactly.
And now we're doing Caravan of Garbage on this.
Are we going to have to rent it again in the future and watch it again?
I bought it.
I know you did.
I bought the extended cut.
Leave a like, by the way, because I couldn't rent it, so I ended up buying it.
You watched the regular cut. Leave a like, by the way, because I couldn't rent it, so I ended up buying it. You watched the regular cut.
Yeah.
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for this
because I like all the extra stuff it adds to the universe.
What a fucking mess this is.
Well, here's the thing.
I mean, that's the first thing that I was going to say.
In its favour, this movie, I don't know if it was David Ayer
or like the production house or just Warner Brothers generally,
they looked at the-
Rat Pack?
It must have been Rat Pack, those absolute real life rats.
I reckon they looked at the DC comic book universe
and they went, one of everything, please.
Because, you know, obviously Man of Steel,
they didn't know at the time it was going to be, you know,
connected to a larger universe.
So it's kind of just like, the world's pretty regular,
but Superman's in it.
And then Batman v Superman, Dawn of Justice, they were like, world's pretty regular but superman's in it and then batman v superman uh dawn of justice they were like world's pretty regular but superman's
in it and batman's in it and then some you know some stuff happened in the past who knows what
happened you know yeah in this one they just went hey do you like do you like soul sucking swords
do you like alligator men do you like aztec fire gods do you like bog witches do you like a
boomerang the concept of a boomerang?
If you throw it perfectly, maybe it returns
to your hand. Can you imagine such a thing?
I can certainly imagine it being Australian.
It's our national animal, the boomerang.
And our national pastime.
Can you imagine the Joker's in this
but he's got a Joker-mobile like it's an episode
of the Super Friends?
That's the stuff that I like about this
but you watch the regular cut.
Yes.
Which is, from what I've seen of it,
and I've watched some comparison videos,
that is the not as good cut.
But also the extended cut is just by somebody.
Like we don't, it's just some extra Harley Quinn stuff
and Joker stuff.
Well, do you have some information on the production of this movie?
I do.
So this is how it started.
There were two cuts of it off the back of the Queen trailer.
Do you remember that?
And people were like, oh, my God, this is where it's at.
Because they make the movie and then they send it out to a trailer house,
like a separate company.
Or bits and pieces of it.
Yeah, and they cut it together into something interesting.
And Warner Brothers were like, we like what this seems to be about
more than we like the actual movie.
So they got...
Yeah, they're called Trailer Park.
So then both David Ayer and Trailer Park got their own cut of the movie, which they then
screened and audiences didn't like either.
So then they rewrote a bunch of it and reshot some stuff.
The audience did.
They did, yes.
They got that button, that yes, no button.
yes they've got that button that yes no button and the idea is that then it ended up being kind of an amalgamation of both but more leaning into kind of you know the the musical kind of frenetic
editing of it and there's a lot of music in this isn't there i was gonna say that but first of all
like you can tell that even in like the suicide squad title cards because the first couple of
trailer versions we see they're just like very dark and gritty yeah by the final trailer release it's just like neon and fireworks yeah yeah anyway the music
sucks in this this is absolutely i mean the songs don't suck no it's the placement of well i mean so
clearly you know a couple years prior to this we got guardians of the galaxy which had a great
soundtrack uh yes and what that soundtrack was all about was like setting a mood or like perhaps indicating how a character was feeling or what their mindset was
or what the songs they like because of the person they are maybe they just want to do a little dance
maybe they just want to do a little dance but this movie's just like what if uh what uh the the
villains they're uh they're paranoid about being released from their cells what should we use
paranoid okay great i look they're they're they're in helicopters their cells. What should we use? Paranoid? Okay, great. I look, they're in helicopters in the sky.
What should we use?
Spirit in the sky.
Why not?
Oh, that's brilliant, actually, now that I think about it.
Which is Norman Greenbaum's Spirit in the Sky not only is in this,
but it's an off-cut from Guardians of the Galaxy.
Yes, it is.
Because they use it in the trailer, but they're like,
not good enough for a movie.
And Suicide Squad were like, nah, good enough for a movie, I think.
Yeah.
And also, it's weird because, like you said, it tries to do so much sympathy for the devil because amanda wall is
the devil or whatever so yeah and so much of this especially in the extended stuff is the harley
joker backstory and it's interesting that they went what if we just did everything that happened
in the comics and you know and the animated series and just kind of mashed it together in flashbacks
yeah yeah and it really doesn't work that well.
But then they'll get stuff, right, that's like, you know,
Deadshot's daughter, that's her actual name.
You know what I mean?
They got the name of that character right.
Wow, they got the name of a character right.
Unbelievable.
Scott Eastwood turns up as GQ Edwards.
Is that his name?
It's nobody.
I don't know.
Why not make him somebody?
Sure.
Like, he's a famous actor, right?
Yeah, yeah. It's just weird that he's just a generic guy.
But then you've got like...
They should have been like,
take the lead, Clint Eastwood's son.
That's who you are in this movie.
You're Clint Eastwood's son, but you're a soldier.
But you know the flashes in it, bed afflicks in it.
There's little fun touches like Batman's rebreather has the Bat logo on it.
There's stuff like that that I really like.
I was going to say the Joker mobile has ha-ha-ha license plates,
and I like to think that that's how that chase sequence began.
He went to the DMV website and he ordered ha-ha-ha license plates,
and they arrived in the mail at his actual house,
and he's just screwing them on.
He's like, oh, this is just the perfect finishing touch,
and he sees the bat symbol come through his window, and he's like, ah, nuts. just the perfect finishing touch. And he sees the bat symbol come through his window and he's like, ah, nuts.
I should have used a separate shipping address.
Should have sent them to my PO box.
So the team is headed up by Amanda Waller,
who I think is good.
There's a bunch of stuff from this which I'm glad did come back,
but I feel like her ultimate goal is muddled
because the contingency plan of the
Suicide Squad is what if what if what if Superman well he's dead but what if he wasn't dead and what
if he went mad what would we do you know that happened and Batman dealt with it remember yeah
yeah that's right he beat up Superman real good yeah so I don't necessarily think that's a problem
and I know you've had this same issue none of these people on the team together or separate could take down superman or really anybody close to superman here's
the thing i think i mean i guess that does happen in this movie but i reckon maybe some of them could
like i reckon el diablo because he's magic yep maybe katana's magic sword could take a crack
maybe maybe maybe if captain boomerang maybe if she used it maybe if
captain boomerang had kryptonite boomerang but you could give them to anybody that's what i'm saying
but the problem is if you put the rest of them on this team they're dead weight they're actually
dragging the other ones down katana would be like oh if i can just get one shot at superman's neck
i could get him and then harley quinn's like hey look at me i'm doing somers, hey, look at me. I'm doing somersaults. Look. Look at me.
Look.
I'm crazy.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
So, yeah, the team.
So dead shot.
How many trick shots does he do?
One.
That's right.
He does one.
He does one.
Took me a moment there.
I thought this was a trick question, but actually.
Well, look, maybe there's more. But but even you know they they kind of open him
up at the gun range and he's just he's just hitting targets and like he's he's hitting them well
but it's not like like he just looks like he's just firing regular bullets again i mean you know
you can hit superman with a million regular bullets all in the same spot and be like
stop doing that or don't i don't care it don't care. It doesn't matter to me.
I'm dead currently, but even if I were alive, it wouldn't bother me.
Captain Boomerang.
And to be fair, I have a soft spot for Jai Courtney and this character,
so I'm glad he's in it.
I'm glad he's coming back.
I tried this time around.
To count his boomerangs?
To count the number.
I tried this to come up with a definitive tally of the number of boomerangs
he throws as opposed to just using his
knives yeah and i i did tune out for a bit but i think it's five i counted three so well you maybe
you're probably not including the flashback where he throws one at like one of his i didn't
and you might not be including the one where he it's got a camera on i counted that one okay
oh well i think i thought one hovers yeah it a hovering probably. But it's got a camera on it so they can all look at his little iPhone
and look around a corner.
God, everyone's always looking at an iPhone or an iPad.
I have a note here that says 90% of this movie is people being shown things on iPads.
But I was going to say, imagine if in The Avengers Hawkeye fired five arrows.
You'd question why he was on the team.
Even more so, you'd wonder why he was on the team. Even more so, even more so, you'd wonder why he was on the team.
Yeah, it's interesting as well because Captain Boomerang gets a bit of a backstory
where he gets captured and they're like,
he's robbed every bank in Australia at least once.
Has he?
Thousands of banks.
Thousands of banks.
Do you think there's just one bank in Sydney?
Like, what do you mean?
Every bank.
Give me specific
location and surely he would have been thwarted at least a few times by the dolomites that's right
the the the fun loving aliens who encourage children to save yeah well or get locked into
you know savings accounts in a specific bank at a very young age but i do like how he you know
he talks slipknot into killing himself you know a character
that from the very get-go of the marketing that's a true mark of the real suicide squad you commit
you you convince your your squad mates to kill themselves but like that that character was never
going to exist longer than you know i have a movie that says i forgot he was in this yeah exactly but
i mean the thing about the boomerangs though, I feel it speaks towards
the key element
of this movie
that I dislike,
which is costumes
and weapons aside,
this movie is so generic.
Yeah.
Like I have maintained
and I haven't seen
the script,
it's probably out there,
but I maintain
that the script,
when it gets to
an action sequence,
probably says
and a bunch of bad guys
show up
with googly eyes
and there's a big fight and everybody fights.
And then there's parentheses and it says,
we'll figure it out on the day.
And then when the day came around, the director was like,
okay, if you've got a gun, just fire the gun and stare dramatically.
If you've got a melee weapon, just swing it around.
And that's everybody.
And we'll do it in post.
We'll fix it in post.
We'll just add stuff you're beating up later. And the thing is as well with the exception of diablo they're all just
brawlers yeah like even captain boomerang who's got ranged weapons when he's fighting the aztec
guy at the end he just runs in and starts hitting him with boomerangs it's like dude have you
forgotten whatever the thing is that you do so i don don't like Killer Croc. I think he's too small and the look is just kind of...
He's a normal-sized man with an enormous head.
With an enormous amount of prosthetics.
What if Superman ripped the roof off the White House
and he encountered a regular-sized man
with a skin condition and an enormous head?
And he could do that little crocodile run into the water.
He could do a crocodile run.
They've even got divers.
I mean, one of the...
This has been pointed out any number of times, but
it is so true. It's just a
team of regular soldiers, like probably
elite special forces dudes
and they've just brought a bunch of
dead weight along with them. There's already divers
that can go and do anything Killer Croc can do,
except they don't have to hold their breath because they've
got oxygen tanks on.
Can he breathe underwater? It doesn't matter.
I don't think he can.
I think he's just a...
I mean, maybe comic book Croc can, but this guy's just a regular guy.
That's true.
Wearing the skin of his dead wife.
I'm pretty sure that alligator skin jacket is his dead wife.
Oh, great.
That's good.
That's why he licks it.
That's great.
Speaking of dead partners, Katana,
who solves traps to something and the something and the enemies and the whatever.
I wouldn't mess with her.
No.
We never see it. There's a moment, and i don't know whether it's in the regular cut where she's talking to her husband to the sword but it just looks like a
very hot sword there's just steam coming off oh it's a hot sword and you can get it at hot toys
uh i i like rick flag i guess um i like that he before the mission in the city, he gets a haircut.
And then at the end, because these are probably reshoots
where he goes to pick up a dead shot from
his daughter's house, he's got long hair again.
So that's... I mean, just put a hat
on him! You know what I mean?
I know he was probably filming another movie,
but just put a hat on him. I think Joel Kinnaman is good in this.
I'm glad he's back. But I'm glad he's
back in the new one, and he looks a lot more
refreshed. Yeah, he does. Like, he looks like he's been on a I'm glad he's back in the new one and he looks a lot more refreshed.
Yeah, he does. He looks like he's been on a multi-day bender in the first one.
But in the new one, it looks like, man, he is in holiday mode.
Good on him.
He's wearing a nice yellow holiday shirt.
But I feel like the forced camaraderie between the characters doesn't work.
And on all of their backstories and all the sympathy that they end up for the devil,
that they feel for each other.
Because when Deadshot doesn't kill Harley Quinn,
why wouldn't he?
He just would.
You know what I mean?
He's supposed to be this killer.
He talks about how he's,
you know,
he's a killer and,
and whatever.
And then he's just like,
I just won't.
Why not?
Yeah.
There's no,
but you know,
there's a moment of camaraderie in the bar with all together.
But then Harley's like,
Oh,
El Diablo,
you killed a child and there's no what
coming back from that you killed robin harley it's it's in your it's in your opening bio thing
you killed robin he was a child probably maybe yeah so yeah he killed his wife in a fire whatever
um you know whatever but i think that character gets the most backstory and then the most
resolution he moves to hawaii and he becomes a private investigator.
No, Mason, he turns into a big fire monster and then he melts down and whatever.
But then he moves to Hawaii and he becomes a private investigator.
Oh, yeah, he does.
He's Magnum.
Yeah, I like him.
I think he's the best of all the characters.
Yeah, no, he's got some depth.
And that's all I have to say.
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So there's some, I want to talk about some extra Harley Joker stuff that we get because one of the
big points of contention when this movie came out was they marketed it on the Joker and they
seemingly cut all of that out. They batted some of it back.
I think there was some sort of lawsuit.
Some people got extra mad at elements that we saw in the trailer.
You know, him throwing a hand grenade, him having some burns on his face.
They were like, these things weren't in it and I deserve millions of dollars.
Well, apparently there were hours and hours of it shot that didn't make it in,
but nothing about this version of the joker aside
from some of the look actually i don't mind the look the head tattoos are horrible but other than
that i think the look and the idea that his teeth have been punched out by batman is good i i
honestly i i know initial uh you know um production images of his look people like absolutely not i
think in the movie i love the look i love all
his weird golden tuxedos i know all that jewelry and the hair i even like the tattoos i enjoy the
idea of the joker just this week he's decided to be a mob boss yeah like maybe next week he'll be
something else but a stand-up comedian maybe a stand-up comedian. Maybe he'll be a stand-up comedian. Maybe he'll get in a fridge.
He'll get in a fridge.
But what is interesting about this,
and even, you know,
and Jared the Toe Letto has said in the past that there was like a whole movie's worth of Joker stuff
that was eventually cut out of this version of the movie,
but having recently re-watched it for this video series,
what we get on the screen he's just
doing the mask it's just jim it's bad right it's weird and horny yeah if you put different music
he's doing voices and impressions it's just but of nobody maybe it's just the mask and i think
he thinks he's doing something else yeah but i think he's also right in that age pocket where
he would have seen the mask in theaters
and it seeped into his brain.
And they're like, you've got to do a sinister clown.
And he's like, time to do an original Jared Leto creation.
Here it is.
Somebody stop me.
It's, I mean, and seeing the extra stuff.
So extra.
It's not good.
I understand why they cut it out because he's not
good and i look i know he's been a good actor in other things but even in you know the extended
cut of justice league he's not good in that either he's i'm sorry he's just bad he's bad
it's bad right yeah yeah they should get jim carrey yeah why not whatever speaking of villains
though go on the enchantress is in this who also introduces the ideas of pocket dimensions and multiverses and stuff.
Because they're like, she's from another world or whatever.
So even though they're doing that in the upcoming Flash movie,
it's implied that she's from a weird mud dimension maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mud world.
Yeah, I think that.
It's a very, very.
Mud world.
I think there's a really cool effect where they're in the boardroom
and the hand-switching scene.
That's fun.
I think that's really great.
All downhill from there, from that first 15 minutes.
Was the idea that if she gets loose to just take a pen and stab the heart,
is that supposed to get her back or is that supposed to kill her?
I think that's supposed to kill her.
Is that a block of TNT next to it?
Why didn't they just use the block of TNT?
Great question, James.
Yeah, I don't know.
Whatever.
I guess maybe the idea isn't to kill her,
but she releases her brother, who's some kind of Aztec monster man.
I like that design and that concept.
I think it's really cool.
I think the finale is bad.
After he dies and they all fight the Enchantress by trying to beat her up.
And they're like, we have to cut her heart out.
Get her heart.
Get her heart. The heart slipped out of my hands. Throw her heart out, get her heart, get her heart slipped out of
my hands, throw the heart, put the bomb on the
heart, shoot the bomb, no, shoot
the heart or the bomb, just
go for the heart. I mean, one of us could
just shoot her in the heart, but then we wouldn't
all be working together using the teamwork
that we learned in the scene at the bar with the
thing. So we can't, I mean,
I'm dead shot, I could just shoot her through the heart,
it'd probably be fine.
It's a mess of a scene.
And look, if you
want a proper
breakdown of this
and the editing in
general.
Dan Olsen of the
YouTube channel
Folding Ideas has a
great video about
the editing of
Suicide Squad and
the music and all
kinds of stuff.
The opening credits
which he talks about
in that also aren't
in the extended
cut.
You know where it
kind of flies in over the...
Over Belle Reve prison.
Whatever the hell's happening.
Because it's a weird and bad introduction.
It is.
Yeah.
But anyway, suffice it to say it's atrocious,
but you should definitely watch that video.
Yeah.
Anyway, it's good.
But if you like seeing like a heart surrounded in straw
getting batted around like a volleyball,
you're going to love this scene.
But interestingly though,
David Ayer has talked about
how the original concept for this,
and there is concept art to support this,
was that Enchantress was under the control of a mother box
and Steppenwolf was preparing an invasion
and he had, like, boom tubes and parademons and that.
But then because this came out the same year as Batman v Superman
and they were going to do Justice League,
he had to evolve it into Oogly Boogly Men and whatever else happened.
Raisin Men, sure.
Raisin Men, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Which is kind of interesting.
Just Steppenwolf sitting on his couch on Apocalypse
and he's got like a Game Boy controller and he's moving Enchantress around.
It'd be one of those stone Game Boy controllers
where there's fire and lava spewing out of it or whatever.
Hell yeah.
You know what I mean?
But here's some things I want to talk about.
Actually, let's talk about the post-credits
because Harley gets out.
There's that.
And then Ben Affleck is doing a Justice League.
He's like, I'm doing a Justice League.
Give me the files so I can do Justice League.
I'm Ben Affleck.
Look, I guess I'll do this movie and another movie,
but I don't like these movies.
Didn't he already get the files?
Didn't he get sent the files?
Oh, yeah, he did get sent the files.
He got sent the files in Batman v Superman.
Give me more files.
I need more files.
I want hard copies of these files.
My printer doesn't work.
You ever try to get a printer working?
I just bought this printer.
I printed like three things and it stopped working.
I don't know.
Do I change the ink?
Or do I need more drivers?
I can't connect this to my Wi-Fi.
They've only given me enough cartridges for a couple of prints. That's the scam
with printers. They only give you a minimal
amount of ink and the printer is fairly
cheap but what costs you in the long term
is the ink cartridges themselves. It's just cheaper to buy another
printer but I won't. I refuse.
This is how I've stayed a billionaire.
I mean I inherited a billion dollars.
It's not the point. Anyway, give me the printed
files. You print them.
You print them, Amanda.
So here's a segment of the show called Tiny Little Things from Tiny Little Men.
Here we go.
Here we go, great.
Just some things, miscellaneous bits and pieces,
and also a mystery that I've solved about this movie.
You've solved a mystery.
Solved a mystery.
We'll talk about it.
Amanda Waller.
Yeah.
Here's a tiny little thing.
Okay.
Why would Amanda Waller-
Ben, that's too tiny.
It has to be bigger.
You're doing the edit.
Why would Amanda Waller want to be rescued by the Suicide Squad?
It's such a-
Why would she want to be?
She's met them.
They're all bad at everything.
Because she could just run her finger down that iPad and just kill them all.
Like play the piano.
But just regular- You want to be rescued?
Just regular soldiers, please.
Yeah.
They could have got there without her.
Or the Flash.
Or the Flash.
You've got to file the Flash.
Be like, hey, the Flash, I'm going to be killed by a monster.
Come and rescue me.
Maybe the post-credits.
Oh, you're having brunch, are you?
No, I don't get brunch either.
Maybe the post-credits scene was set before that moment
and she'd already given away the files.
Didn't have his phone number anymore.
Couldn't contact him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's also about hard copies.
That's a great question.
It's not a good reveal, is it?
To be like, this thing that we're after,
it's this woman that we've seen already.
Yeah.
Terrific.
She's working in the city, is she?
Yep.
All right.
Cool, man.
That's good to know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then she kills everybody in the room or whatever.
Shout out to David Harbour for both Marvel and DC roles.
Good on him.
See, the guy's like, what if Superman used the White House like a tin can?
He came in and he was like, Mr. President, I'm the president or whatever.
He does that scene.
I'm the president now.
That's right.
I'm going to wipe my butt with the Oval Office.
What are you going to do about it?
That's right, the entire thing.
I'll pick it up.
I'll wipe my butt with it.
I know you appreciate this surprise
Coleman appearance.
Yep, love to see Coleman
just popping up in something.
Always a joy.
Always a pleasure.
Good to see you, Coleman.
You and me both.
Okay, so you probably remember
there was some controversy
around this movie,
specifically the role
of Jared Leto
and how into the role he got.
You know what I mean?
He's sending pig carcasses.
He's sending used condoms, people are saying. You know what I mean? He's watching pig carcasses. He's sending used condoms, people are saying.
You know what I mean?
He's watching The Mask.
He's watching The Mask.
He's watching The Mask over and over in his trailer
and people are like,
what are you doing in there, Jared Leto?
And he's like, watching hardcore pornography.
My secret can never get out that I'm just being The Mask.
So he's actually cleared this up.
So I'd just like to make some clarifications
about what's true about these,
about this quite frankly abysmal behaviour.
Because just be a normal man.
Do you know what Heath Ledger did?
He didn't run around fucking stabbing people and, you know,
and sending people used condoms and dead rats.
He did a scene and then he went, good scene, everybody.
Let's all have lunch.
Now it's time to do some skateboard tricks.
Exactly.
RIP Heath Ledger.
Agreed.
I think he was doing that, but like all of the time. And just don't. RIP Heath Ledger. Agreed. I think he was doing that but like all of the time
and just don't.
Just be normal, idiot.
Also bearing in mind
all this clearing up
could be lies.
Yeah, that's right.
Well,
okay, so this is what he said.
There were some things
that were mentioned about gifts
and the fact that I was
giving used condoms to people
which is not true.
It was not true.
Some of the stuff
that you do can go viral
or get written about especially with the Joker. Some of that stuff that you do can go viral or get written about,
especially with the Joker.
Some of that stuff just took on a life of its own,
and most of it was total bullshit.
And I thought to myself, who would start a rumor such as this?
Oh, yes.
He did.
He was interviewed.
Here's the clip.
I found it, where he talks about used condoms and anal beads
and whatever else.
Even if he didn't do these things,
you fucking said it.
So don't turn around and be like,
oh, these rumors get started
and I don't know what's going on.
Isn't Hollywood a funny business?
Fuck you.
You did this.
This is your fault.
You should be embarrassed.
This is an embarrassing performance
and just turn of events in general.
He's a bad joker.
Anyway, do you want to see the AI cut?
I think it'd be more boring, if I'm honest.
Look, I think the era of DC recutting a movie is done.
Do you think?
Yeah, I think they want to move past it.
I think a lot of higher-ups at both Warner Brothers and AT&T
and that were like, we don't like...
First of all, it didn't make enough money, apparently.
And secondly, the fandom kind of spiraled.
These are all rumors and this and that.
And I don't think there's that much interest about seeing an original cut of this movie.
But I guess I'd watch it, just out of a curiosity.
I mean, I watched the extended cut, which was edited by somebody.
So why wouldn't I?
Why not one by the original director?
Speaking of the original director, this is what he said about the cut of the movie now.
Oh, yes.
More modern day.
He says,
His version was ripped to pieces.
I can't emphasize that enough.
The reason was,
BVS got chewed up by the critics and the success of Deadpool.
The studio leadership at the time panicked.
Then major elements of my cut were ripped out
before I could mature the edit.
Then Johns, as in Geoff Johns, wrote pages I had to reshoot.
So this is how we got to where we are.
So anyway, all of this is in the bin,
except some of the characters for the Suicide Squad,
which is sort of a sequel, but also at the same time.
Just don't worry about this one, I think, is what they're saying.
Dead shots, he's back with his daughter or he's dead.
Yeah.
Who knows?
Do you care?
Nope.
Yeah.
Then we don't care either.
So let's just all get on with it, eh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Anyways, this has been Caravan of Garbage.
We do this every week.
And you might be like, what's up next week?
Is that what you're thinking, Mason?
I was thinking that actually, yeah.
Well, here's a hint.
I don't know it yet, actually.
Whoa. Yeah, but we'll think of something. Ben. I don't know it yet, actually. Whoa.
Yeah, but we'll think of something.
Ben wants to do the High School Musical Trilogy.
Huh, okay.
All right.
I haven't seen them.
I haven't seen them either, no.
We've seen some of them.
Zac Efron?
Zac Efron.
Vanessa Hudgensons.
Or Hudgens?
Whatever her name is.
Hudgens.
Hudgens, there we go.
Anyways, if you're like, oh my God,
I can't wait for that to come around next week.
Could I see an early version of that?
Guess what?
You can.
Whoa.
Go to bigsandwich.co if you do want to sign up.
It's $9 a month.
It's like a private Patreon service that we have, isn't it, Mason?
That's exactly right.
Nothing shady, though.
Don't even worry about it.
Well, just put your credit card details in.
Don't worry about it.
Don't look into it.
It's PayPal.
It mostly uses PayPal, I believe, anyway.
But, yeah, we do bonus podcasts.
We do movie commentaries, including Suicide Squad.
That's right.
Not The Suicide Squad, just to clarify.
But if you want us to do a live one in cinema.
We'll do it.
We'll ruin people's good time.
We'll come to your cinema plex.
That's right.
Where is it?
We'll visit.
Yeah.
But if you do have any suggestions for Caravan of Garbage, let us know.
And we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows
where we are going to be covering The Suicide Squad.
Are we not, Mason?
We are, it's true.
Very excited.
I hope it's good.
But if it's not, they can just do The The Suicide Squad.
That's right.
In another five years from now.
The The Suicide Squad Squad.
Can't wait for James Gunn's The The Suicide Squad Squad.
That'll give him another chance.
They probably will.
Anyways, thanks for watching. Grabbed our jam, you guys. They'll give him another chance. They probably will. Anyways, thanks for watching.
Grabbed our gem, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
Goodbye.
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