The Weekly Planet - Superman IV: A Quest For Peace - Caravan Of Garbage
Episode Date: March 4, 2021Superman 4 A Quest For Peace was heralded as a return to form for the Chris Reeve movies. But it was...not. Despite bringing back Gene Hackman and the introduction of a nuclear powered supervillian th...ings took a turn with budget concerns, wonky story beats and a brutal edit. Things didn't end well for the series but at least...that bit with the great wall of China? Anyways thanks for listening.SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/bHWeJQ9U5hgJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4#Superman #DCComics Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors,
like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause,
causing the risk of heart disease to go up.
Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca.
FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship
between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies
on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
One woman has a secret.
The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.
FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.
This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network.
Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.
Welcome back to Caravan of Garbage.
We are here to talk Superman IV because it's not a bloody drip, mate,
because it's dying.
He did it, folks.
He did it.
It's in need of hydration, antibiotics.
Some orange slices.
Yeah.
It's very much on the way out at this point, this series, isn't it?
Yeah.
Look, watching this, I almost, at certain points,
I did feel bad that I was going to make fun of it so much,
but also it's go time, Superman 4.
It certainly is.
Your time has come, Superman 4.
Let's do this.
And let's leave a like also while we're here.
Yeah.
Apparently the story of this was partially written by Christopher Reeve.
This was his idea.
And it's kind of a nice message because it's about a little kid
and he writes a letter to Superman and he says,
what are you going to do about all these nuclear weapons, Superman?
And what I love about that is...
But it's a bad movie, though.
That's the problem.
It's very, very bad.
So, yeah, I've written that as story too
because there's a few stories going on here
because there's a nuclear arms race
and people are like, ooh, danger, world over.
The danger's happening.
But then the teacher's like, what can we do?
And these are the options that come up.
Think positive.
Write senators.
And those things in the real world, sure.
But when the kid's like, hey, maybe Superman should denuclearize the world,
everyone's like, as if.
No, that's the answer.
That's what he's there for as if. No, that's the answer. Yeah.
That's what he's there for.
That makes sense, right?
Well, you're glossing over the part where Santa might also be able
to do something.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Maybe this is in the Santa Claus universe, so, you know.
We don't really know at this point.
No.
Yeah.
So I thought that was strange.
And then I also thought it was strange that he did get rid of all the nuclear
weapons and then at the end went, maybe I shouldn't.
Maybe hands off, actually.
Yeah.
I mean, again, it's a nice idea in theory
and in a fantasy world where this is possible.
But even in this world, Superman gets rid of all the nuclear weapons
and then the arms dealers are like,
this is great because we can sell people more nuclear weapons.
It's just...
It's increased demand.
In a way, if this happened in the real world, i'd be like i think superman's in on this yeah superman making a little like extra coin on the side there is he short stocking the nuclear
arms market oh my god that's what short stocking is yes excellent uh fun little fact from this
this only relates to me specifically but this is the James put your bins out
I should tonight
but this is the first movie
that I ever saw in cinemas
wow
I was maybe three or four
when it came to Australia
I definitely remember
memories of watching it as a kid
yeah
but I don't know if I saw it in the cinema
yeah
I think maybe I read the junior novelization at some point.
Or I read, you know, they used to have like little picture books
and it had photos from the movie.
Like maybe I read that.
Because I also have distinct memories of some scenes
which aren't in this movie.
Oh, I've got a list.
Which evidently are deleted scenes,
which probably would have been in the novelization.
The novelization is often based on the shooting script.
Yeah, yeah.
Which, you know, it's based on an early draft, rather, of the script,
which changed before they actually film it.
Exactly.
Another fun little fact, though.
Yes.
This movie was also the first time I got a taste of commenting on movies.
So this is what happened.
Here we go.
This is what happened in cinemas.
The moment where Nuclear Man gets in the elevator and he gets dragged to the moon and he goes down and it goes dark
the cinema's silent this it's there's tension it's it's riding high because you know the sun
is just going to crest over the moon do you know what i mean yeah yeah and i said out loud is he
dead and everybody laughed and uh mixed emotions how'd you feel well i kind of was honestly i was
just kind of like, meh.
Like, it didn't bother me.
But, like, I think if that would have happened a year later,
I would have been horribly embarrassed.
So, yeah.
I think I was young enough to be like, I don't give a fuck.
And if it happened to you now, you would have been like, yes,
I've got the audience in the palm of my hands.
So I'd also like to talk about the inception of this movie,
if you don't mind.
Go on.
So Canon.
The Canon Group. The Canon Group.
The Canon Group.
I'm well familiar with the Canon Group.
What do you know about them?
I know that they started making English versions
of Swedish porn movies, like remakes, I guess.
Sure.
They did He-Man.
Yep, they did.
They've done some, like, award-winning stuff.
Yeah.
But they've also done, for example,
the 1973 karate kung fu blockbuster
thunder kick i'm not familiar with a man who's kicked punches with powerful kicks no i don't
know you mean like kick puncher from community yeah but it's a real it's a real thunder kick
there you go so they bought the rights to superman so they could save the canon production industry
right uh it did the opposite so in order to get this off the ground uh they
approached richard donner again but he was doing one of the several lethal weapons that he was
working on at the time richard lester was also approached he couldn't do it after superman 3
christopher reeve wanted ron howard but he was doing willow wes craven was hired but he didn't
see eye to eye with christopher reeve and he left so christopher reeve only agreed to come back and
play superman again like you mentioned he had more input on the story and if the studio financed these are project street smart which uh
is about a pimp or something i i looked at it but then i didn't write it down sometimes i do that
yeah i'm pretty sure it's about a man with thunderous kicks but all right you might be right
but then off the back of that when they hired sydney j fury to direct this him and christopher
reeve didn't get along.
And if you watch a lot of the behind-the-scenes stuff, which I did extensively,
it's a lot of Christopher Reeve kind of directing and saying,
well, Superman could do this and this is how I would do it and whatever.
It seems like he's very much hands-on.
So I think at this point it's kind of his baby.
And it really is because if you can't get him, it's nothing really, is it?
It really isn't.
Like imagine if this didn't have Christopher Reeve in it
and they couldn't get the rights to Superman
and it was still Nuclear Man versus Stupendous Man or whatever.
Exactly.
What a piece of garbage it would be.
Yeah, that's right.
So what ended up happening though, some of the reason why it went bad
is because the budget went from $36 million to $17 million.
That's why it looks like shit.
It really does.
That's why they used the same shot of him flying towards the camera multiple times.
You probably recognize that shot, right?
You can see, like, the composite lines around him.
Oh, it's so bad.
There's a scene where Superman and Lois take another romantic flight around the world, and it is just awful.
It looks so bad.
It looks so bad uh and
also as a result of this canon cancelled their spider-man movie after this tanked so they were
they were heating up for the for the superhero game yeah and imagine if this went well and then
spider-man went well who knows where dc and marvel would be at this point yeah we probably already
have crossover movies yeah i was gonna say we might have had the that uh a movie adaptation
of the famous superman and spider-man team up from back in the day where it's just spider-man
struggling to keep up yeah that's that's how i'd write it so another story point and i've written
here story one uh the daily planet is under attack by big business who just want clickbait headlines
which for the day was snatch up newspaper headlines. That's right. Is that how that works?
Put a coin in that box on the side of the street headlines and open the thing and take a couple and sell them to your friends.
Take as many as you want.
It doesn't matter.
And as a result of that, the people at the Daily Planet aren't happy,
and he's brought in his daughter also, Lacey.
Lacey?
Lacey, yeah.
Yeah, who is a love interest also, which I want to talk about in a bit,
but also kind of a rival to Lois Lane.
But also at the end, this story point is resolved by Perry White going to the bank,
taking out a huge loan, and then buying all the leftover stock
in the dying newspaper, The Daily Planet, just before a huge economic crisis also.
It's done anyway, right?
Like he's killed it.
Well, maybe that's what happens in Superman 5.
I don't know.
I actually do have things to say about it.
Superman, can you collect all the unsold newspapers
in a big net and throw them into the sun, Superman?
Oh, that's not going to save anything.
Okay, right.
No, that's it.
Lacey is also played by Mariel Hemingway,
which makes her...
No, I was going to say it makes her the second Hemingway
to be in a superhero movie,
but I'm thinking of J.D. Salinger's kid.
You are, yeah.
Who is Captain America.
Is she related to Hemingway?
Yeah, that's her grandfather.
Really?
Yeah.
Do you think they put the glasses on her to be like...
Like Hemingway.
Yeah, sure.
We both had different ideas about glasses.
That's what's great about movies.
They're open to interpretation.
We both had different interpretations of who the greatest author
slash journalist of all time is.
Very true, yeah.
So the third story of this, I guess.
There's not really a third.
There's many more.
It's the creation of Nuclear Man.
And what I love leading up to that is Superman goes back to his
fortress of solitude and he's like,
Listen, crystals from the past and dead Kryptonian leaders, what do you think I should do?
And they're like, Don't interfere.
Don't do anything.
But also, like, aren't you the guys that said don't do anything and then your world exploded?
Yeah.
Why do you even have this on file?
Just smash those crystals.
And he has a note on his hand that just says,
do the opposite of whatever the Kryptonian scientists say.
The biggest idiots in the galaxy.
So Lex Luthor's back.
Gene Hackman.
Smartest man in the world.
He's doing all right, I guess. He's decided he's going to defeat Superman by creating a nuclear man.
Yes, a nuclear man.
No, he says nuclear man.
Yes, he does say it.
Like Homer Simpson would.
Smartest man in the world. world well he did create a man that's pretty good i guess a nuclear man so he's a oh my god
maybe he wasn't creating a nuclear man after all what do you think he was creating he's like no
you're confused i'm making a nuclear man it's different uh so here's a question about his hair, though.
Yes.
Because it's clearly just Gene Hackman's own hair in this.
And he's quite balding at this point.
Was Lex Luthor just shaving his head?
Was that what this was?
Oh, in the context of the story.
Okay, right.
Because you wouldn't wear a very thinning wig, would you?
No, that's true.
That doesn't make any sense.
Unless you feel there's
more value to thinning real hair than being bald that's actually a good point yeah our bald viewers
uh let us know in the comments yeah in the comments let us know yeah i want to talk about
superman though i don't talk about hair as well talk about superman in a superman movie review
this is fascinating coming you've changed in a way i have in in the past this would have been all wig talk honestly
okay we're doing hair talk okay because there's a single strand of his hair yeah easily holding
up a thousand pound or whatever it is indestructible except if you've got a pair of bolt cutters which
of course speaks to the question the age-old question how does superman cut his hair um a
mirror with lasers normally also sometimes isn't it that his hair isn't like indestructible and
you can just cut it with scissors i don't know but then if he's re-entering the atmosphere
doesn't matter what am i doing what am i doing all his hair would be on off james yes and i'm
talking all this hair oh my goodness no oh no yes so do you think they're giving manscape.com
do you think they're giving away a piece of your genetic material is a good idea? He's not
that smart, James. Remember he did that interview
where he revealed all his strengths and weaknesses?
He did, he did, didn't he? But, so, yeah,
as a result of this, they create a nuclear
man. Which is to say Lex and
Lenny Luthor. Yes, Lenny Luthor.
His newly revealed nephew?
Yes. Yeah, who he hates. Who he hates, that's right.
But I kind of enjoy
the villain, Nuclear Man, because it's kind of like fighting a feral cat. No, who he hates. Who he hates, that's right. But I kind of enjoy the villain, Nuclear Man,
because it's kind of like fighting like a feral cat.
No, he's like erratic and he's scratchy and he's mean.
I just think he's got that energy.
Do you know what I mean?
A little bit, yeah.
He's got that kind of wild vibe about him.
You know what I mean?
You can't pet him because he'll scratch you on the neck.
Sometimes he'll roll over to reveal his belly and you're like,
should I give him a scratch? Because he will attack me on the neck. Sometimes he'll roll over to reveal his belly, and you're like, should I give him a scratch?
Because he will attack me.
He really will.
With all his many vaguely defined powers.
So I wanted to ask you about this specifically,
because I feel like you'd be a fan,
but Clark Kent, a.k.a. Superman, a.k.a. Kal-El.
What?
It's been four movies.
Clark Kent is Superman?
That's right.
Oh, my God.
This changes everything.
He has to go on two dates at once.
I think for the purposes of national security,
we should edit that out of the video, his secret identity.
You're probably right.
But, yes, he has to, a la the many sitcoms
and also the Superman stories of the Golden and Silver Age,
Lacey asks specifically if Clark and Superman can go on a double date with her and Lois Lane.
And he says yes, because he's a bad person, it seems.
And dumb.
Because the thing is, like, there is a very long history in the comic books, especially in the, you know, the Golden and Silver, especially.
fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from istanbul to paris and london one woman has
a secret the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost fx is the veil starring FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. You know, both of them.
Where it's just Superman messing with Lois Lane.
Yeah.
Just for a laugh.
He's got her in space and he's like, agree to marry me.
I'll cut off the oxygen or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
There's just, but this Superman isn't, like, he's too nice to be that.
Yeah.
So he's just decided to ruin everyone's night for no real reason?
Yeah.
Like, who's having a good time here?
Lois isn't.
Lacey isn't.
Lana Lacey isn't either.
Absolutely.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Lana wasn't even invited.
Yeah.
Because he doesn't have a third persona.
No, he really doesn't.
You should get one.
No, he kind of does.
He's got back in Smallville.
Yeah, that's kind of his third persona.
Maybe he was going on a third date with Lana in Smallville.
Yeah.
He kept having to fly back and forth.
I feel like that is the real him though, right?
Yeah.
Now we're getting off topic.
Because what I want to talk about is, again, and we've come back to it, we've come full
circle, to the memory wiping kiss.
Oh, he's done it again.
Is he constantly like dropping Lois off a building and then revealing himself to be
Superman and then he's like, listen, I just kind of need a bit of a pep talk and then just wiping your memory so mean like he's just yeah i just
need i just need you to do something for me and then she then she reveals oh oh clark i've known
all along and now i remember everything and what a wonderful time and then they fly all around the
world yeah then she's like here's some advice. And he's like, cool. All right.
Later.
Like,
you know,
surely at this point they realized there's probably not going to be another one of these.
So why not give them both a happy ending?
That would be appreciated.
Also,
it's just occurred to me.
Who else is he doing it to?
Does he foil a bank robbery in the bank?
One of the bank robbers is like,
I saw you come out of that phone booth.
I know who you really are.
And he's like, well, pucker up, buddy.
I believe there's a robot chicken sketch that is specifically that.
Oh, no.
Just kissing people around the world.
Great joke, though.
If you had to come at this in 2008, mate, that would have been absolutely lit.
That would have been my time.
So I've got a couple of miscellaneous Superman notes, if you will.
Yeah, sure.
Some memories of this movie.
Miscellaneous super notes? Very good. Yeah, I like that. And there'scellaneous Superman notes, if you will. Yeah, sure. Some memories of this movie. Miscellaneous super notes?
Very good.
Yeah, I like that.
And there's a trumpet?
Yeah, there would be.
To announce each super note.
There needs to be a trumpet.
These aren't even very good, but the trumpet will probably kind of...
The trumpet will sell them, yeah.
Yeah, I think so too.
In a way, Superman's not that great of a superhero, but the cape and the trumpet sells it.
They certainly do.
So Superman getting sick and skinny.
Do you think that's taken from The Dark Knight Returns
where he gets hit with a nuclear bomb?
Also nuclear in this, by the way.
Or do you think nobody involved in this has ever read a comic
and it's just a coincidence?
The second one, absolutely.
Cool.
I just wanted to check, yeah.
So you know the scene with the Great Wall of China?
That he rebuilds with his eyes.
Yeah.
If you look at that closely, what actually happened there was
they were going to get Superman going at super speed
and he was going to rebuild it.
And then they were like,
we're running out of money.
Things are going south here fast.
So what we're going to do,
we're just going to take a shot of Christopher Reeve looking
and then we're going to just make lasers come out of his eyes.
But it's a blue laser because it's a different laser.
And then we're going to cut back to him
and it's the same shot,
but just reversed and do the same thing again. And then he waves and flies away. Because what it was supposed to be, he fixes it and then he waves going to cut back to him and it's the same shot but just reversed and do the same thing again
and then he waves and flies away.
Because what it was supposed to be, he fixes it and then he waves and he goes.
So they made it into that for whatever reason.
I mean, there's obvious reasons.
Yeah.
So with the very slow moon fight, also they don't need to be moving slow.
They're super beings.
That just occurred to me.
Whatever.
I can't believe he shifts the moon.
That's very uncool.
Don't do that.
Wow.
Don't you think?
Are you just mad because this will change your star sign somehow, James?
That's right.
Very much so.
Remember when Jim Carrey did it in the movie where he was God or whatever?
And everything was all fucked up?
Oh.
Yeah.
Remember that movie?
Wow.
Do you remember the movie Sonic?
That's another Jim Carrey movie
I remember every Jim Carrey movie
Yes
Very good
So there's also a moment where
I don't really
But all I remember is the movie Yes Man
And I'm basing my answer on that
James just asked me a question
I said yes
Like Yes Man would I guess
In a way
Yes
So Lacey's just dragged into space Very far from earth do you think that was just
a thing with special effects where they just went just put the earth in the background whatever
like i don't think it was supposed to be space initially maybe oh i see yeah i don't know also
paul the guy from the gym he's just a poser his muscle definition is limited at best i don't like
that even for the 80s even for the 80s? Even for the 80s.
I mean, I guess in the 80s we had Hulk Hogan.
Yeah, but there was nothing in between.
You're either a roided-out monster or whatever Paul's supposed to be.
Wow.
Yeah.
Anyway, I don't like him, but you're not supposed to, are you?
I like when he gets little revenge.
He's petty, isn't he?
He's a little bit, yeah.
Speaking of, is that outfit that Clark wears with grey sweatpants,
which people are a big fan of for some reason.
I don't want to get into it.
Oh, my goodness.
But do you think that's a cool outfit now?
I don't know anything about clothes.
You're more of a clothes man.
You look at that, you go towel tucked into the Adidas sweat top
or whatever it's supposed to be.
Is that a good look?
I mean, you know, Adidas, that's the gold standard.
In Australia, we say Adidas.
We do.
Because it's the correct way to say it. It is, isn't it?
But also, what is he doing?
Why is he at the gym?
What is he doing?
I don't know.
Also, you've just met this person.
Just be a bit more confident around her.
Just be a bit more normal.
Yeah, exactly.
I do want to talk about John Cry's role in this movie.
Okay, Lenny Luthor, yeah.
As mentioned in previous videos, he does reappear in the DC Universe
as Lex Luthor, doesn't he?
He's back and he's like,
I've got a goatee and no hair.
Rad.
He was very excited to be involved in this film.
I bet the character wasn't as excited
when he was handed to a priest at the end.
Oh my goodness, yes.
That didn't age super well.
No.
Can you look after this boy for me, please?
But John Cryer though
it was a dream come
true for him.
He had a blast
filming it
and I've got an
interesting quote
about kind of
how this movie went
if you don't mind.
Sure.
I'm going to recount it.
James has a cheeky
little grin.
I do.
That means this is
some super trivia.
That's right.
So he had a bit of
fun though on set.
Like he couldn't
believe he was
involved in it.
It all looked great.
You know he's lifted up in a car with Lex Luthor by Superman.
Imagine being involved in that.
Because you don't know what it's going to look like.
That's true.
And by all accounts, everyone was saying it was going to be great
before they stripped everything out of it.
And then he noticed like, you know, the catering is getting a bit light.
Things are getting speeding up a bit with production.
There's a bit of bin fighting on set and whatever.
So here's the quote now.
A few months later, I ran into Chris Reeve on the street and i said hey let's have lunch and he said okay sure
we went out for lunch and i said i'm so excited about the movie when's it coming out and he said
takes a deep breath you need to know it's an absolute mess we had six months of flying work
that we were supposed to shoot they cut five months of it oh. Oh, my God. And you can see that cut.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you remember?
Because in the first movie, he came back for like half a year
to do all that extra special effects stuff,
and he's banking and rolling.
He's making a day of it, making six months of it.
Yeah, I mean, in this, they just took, I guess, one Polaroid of him
and just waved it in front of the camera.
So they've thrown together an edit that barely makes any sense,
and I was absolutely devastated because I really wanted to be part
of bringing Superman back, you know. And was the thing because chris reeve came back
to this because he realized despite you know what happened with the third one he wasn't happy with
it and he wasn't really going to do it and he was kind of done with it he's like this is a character
people love and i and i want to kind of give that sense of hope and optimism and they want to see
this again and they fucked it completely yeah they also cut
it to 90 minutes because it is the shortest one yes that's quite a bit is mercifully short yeah
it is isn't it because then you get more screenings out of it you can run it more times during the day
it's still tanked it didn't matter but here's the thing though i think with a tighter narrative
this is an absolutely fine superman story on the surface level, Lex Luthor creates an equivalent
and they battle on the moon or whatever.
That's primo stuff.
Come on, man. I think this
totally could have worked.
Here's the thing, though. There is a bunch of deleted scenes, which I alluded
to before when I said there was a bunch of deleted
scenes.
He doesn't know what alluded means, but I'm not going to correct him.
It's too late in the video.
Illusions, like magic.
Yep.
Cool.
Okay.
So maybe we are going to get a Sidney J. Fury cut.
Like the Donner cut.
Yeah.
Like the Snyder cut.
Release the Sidney J. Fury cut?
Yes.
He's 87 years old.
He probably hasn't worked in 100 years because of this movie.
I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry to Mark Pillow, who played Nuclear Man.
I thought you did a pretty good job.
I thought it was good, yeah. Certain charm
to him. What do you do with it? You just look
like Dolph Lundgren. That's what you do. He didn't even get
to use his own voice. No, he really didn't.
So there's going to be more love scenes with
Lacey where they go on various dates.
More of that, please. There was also going
to be a second Nuclear Man.
Or a first Nuclear Man. A first one, and
then he's kind of defective. And he's going to be more a
bizarro kind of guy, right?
I found some behind the scenes footage
where they were going to crush a car together and you can
see them doing that. Into a heart?
I guess. That's nice.
There was also going to be flashbacks of Superman
as a baby because he does have perfect recall
in some versions. So he probably remembers.
Does that mean they were going to get Brando back?
Probably not. But you could have done some variation on Krypton,
being back on Krypton.
I remember being born.
Yeah, and there was a lot of shattered glass happening
as I crashed through that skylight.
They're also originally going to do Bizarro,
played by Christopher Reeve.
Oh, that would have been so good.
But they kind of did it already in the previous movie.
Also, it's probably very
expensive to do. Yeah, and
if they were going to do it in this one, it'd be bad.
So, in theory,
it's probably best they
didn't. That being said, apparently,
hot, hot news, hot off the presses,
they're going to do a comic book version
called Superman 78, which is going to be an
expansion of this universe.
So maybe we will see a Bizarro in that.
About gosh darn time, don't you think?
I agree.
I'm excited for that.
So yeah, there was also a planned fifth movie
because you've always got to be looking ahead to the future.
What happens in this one?
Superman dies and he's resurrected in the bottle city of Kandor.
Oh.
Yeah, so what do you think of that?
He'd be little.
He'd be little, yes. He'd be little he'd be little yes
little superman yeah so he's walking around he's like what's going on here with supergirl be in
it or whatever because she's from kandor i don't know uh this movie does though have a a bit of
like it predicts the future it alludes to the future mason go on because when he drops lex
luther off uh into the rock pit at the end he says says, see you in 20, Lex, or something like that.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
The next Superman movie comes out 19 years later.
So he was nearly right.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, Lex probably got early release for good behavior.
That's right.
So if people are wondering, though, are you going to- It was Kevin Spacey, though, so probably not.
Yeah, boo.
And no thank you.
If people, though, are curious, like, whether we're going to do Superman Returns, guess what?
We did it.
Surprise.
It's done.
It's in your hot little hands already.
Exactly.
So, yeah, I'll link that below if you do want to check it out.
But, yeah, this is sort of the end of the Chris Reeve movies, though we might be coming back next week to do the Donner Cut of Superman 2.
That's right.
Might be nice to go back to a more competent Superman movie movie yeah i mean let's let's watch it and see yeah i mean if
it's mostly the same except the kryptonians go to jail at the end no dice no thank you it's death
in a pit or nothing if you ask me i agree so yeah uh if you do want to see that let us know below
and if you want to see any of these early guess what you can you go to big sandwich.co you sign up it's only nine bucks a month maybe that's a lot of money
to you so maybe that's too much you don't have to do it that's fine but these episodes go up early
and add free feed of our podcast the weekly planet goes up there early also we get there's bonus
podcasts even more podcasts even more podcasts we do one on clickbait we do one called time
craps where we look at particular years in pop culture we do one on a comic book club don't we right we're gonna do death of superman maybe it's out by now i don't know
where i'm excited for that one me too uh and also we have a bunch of movie commentaries which you
might want to check out marvel dc everything in between not everything in between just some others
you know i mean if you don't i think we did independence day but don't worry about that one
so uh yeah thanks for watching caravan of garbage we. We'll see you next week. And just hang around.
We'll go, but you hang around on YouTube.
Like, is there like a lobby or something?
There's a lobby.
There's a waiting lobby.
Huh, never seen that.
If you don't have autoplay on, you're just shuffled into a lobby.
Huh.
Can I get like a cup of tea or something?
No.
No amenities at all.
No amenities.
Can I go to the toilet?
No, mate. No amenities.
They allude to it, but there'd be none there.
Well, then I would take autoplay and go to the next Mr. Sunday Movies video.
Hopefully.
Yeah.
If the algorithm is kind.
Goodbye.
Grab that gem, you guys.
We'll see you next week.
This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network.
Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.
I mean, if you want, it's up to you.
FX is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who
play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives
are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.