The Weekly Planet - Terminator 2: Judgment Day - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

What started as a fairly simple slasher premise (robot gets sent back from the future to kill the mother of the future saviour of mankind but also she gets sent a human protector whom also happens to ...be the childs father) very quickly evolved into one of the biggest action movies of all time. Terminator 2: Judgment Day has both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton return as the T-800 and Sarah Connor in a race to prevent the future war and protect John Connor from the T-1000, a mimetic polyalloy machine, aided by ground breaking abilities/special effects. Great movie. No notesSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Every summer my family is lucky enough to stay at an Airbnb. We pick a nice affordable area, take some time off and enjoy some beach time. Last summer we rented a cute beach house down by the Mornington Peninsula. Nothing beats taking some time off to disconnect, we rented some paddleboards and spent most of the sunny days drifting on the water. Bliss! If you've ever stayed in an Airbnb before, perhaps like me you've thought to yourself, this actually seems pretty doable. Maybe my place could be an Airbnb. Because I know I have, and it turns out it's not as complicated as you might think. Hosting can be as simple as starting with a spare room, or your whole place when you're
Starting point is 00:00:34 away for work or a holiday. If you're like me and you live for the long weekends with family and friends, hosting that extra bedroom could be a practical way to make a little extra income on the side whilst doing what really matters in life, enjoying time with loved ones. So whether you could use extra money to cover some bills or for something a little more fun, your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at airbnb.ca slash host. Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravan of Garbage where it's Terminator
Starting point is 00:01:01 2 Judgment Day. Keep going. It's Judgment Day is upon us. It's 1997. of Caravan of Garbage where it's terminated to Judgment Day. Keep going. It's Judgment Day is upon us. It's 1997. It's a big nuclear bomb. I'm swept away, James, by this movie.
Starting point is 00:01:16 It speaks so well to that original theme from the 80s where you're able to make this huge orchestral number. It doesn't have that kind of, you wouldn't think that it would necessarily lend itself to that, you know, initially, but my goodness. But as we know from last week, it's also versatile. It's got a sexy time version. That's true.
Starting point is 00:01:32 You know, there should have been a fun at the mall version. Do do do do do, do do do do do, you know? Yeah. I'm John Connor, I'm playing Missile Command. Do do do do do. I'm a redhead kid, I'm lying to a cop. Do do do, it has a bit of some slap bass missile command. Do you do to do I'm a redhead kid online to a cop? Do you do it has a bit of some slap bass in it? Do you do but now what a legend that kid is right? Just casually saves humanity. I don't know him man
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah, sorry true savior of the universe exactly. Yeah, that's what you want in a true friend. That's right Yeah, I ginger mullet kid, you know, that's what we all need in our lives a ginger mullet kid This is a back listen in all seriousness. You don't have to tell the cops goddamn anything at any point, alright? Ask for a lawyer. Well, that'd be James Cameron's advice. He's not a fan of cops, clearly. No, he's not. He's absolutely not. That is why the T-1000 is based on a cop, right? Yep, because you can go anywhere and do anything. That is 100% true. Anyways, please leave
Starting point is 00:02:22 a like on this video because of course, one of the biggest action blockbusters of all time, the most expensive movie ever made when it came out. That's right. Now of course, the twist in this, which we are going to spoil, was not initially revealed in the teaser trailer. They gave Stan Winston $150,000
Starting point is 00:02:39 to make something that indicated that yes, the Terminator was coming back. And we got this assembly line making. I remember that. Yeah. The T-800. Why don't they do this anymore? You know, teasers like this.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Okay. But the full trailer did. They did spoil it. Yes. I acknowledge that. In fact, I think that the trailer was like, now there are two Terminator two. One's a liquid guy.
Starting point is 00:03:00 He's the bad one. Arnold Schwarzenegger is good now. He was bad in the other one. And I understand like, obviously they've built this incredible new technology. Well, he, they started on the bad one. Arnold Schwarzenegger's good now. He was bad in the other one. And I understand, like, obviously, they've built this incredible new technology. Well, they started on the Abyss. Yes. And then they've sort of, you know, revamped it and improved it for this. Obviously, you want to draw people in, and it worked.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You want to show people this technology in the trailer to get them in. But man, if they didn't do it, because again... Show someone this, by the way. Someone who doesn't know, show them the first one and then show them this one. Because again it starts out almost exactly like the first one and just to turn it around so quickly. You know there's the moment where the T1000 is transported to the present day and then the cop comes to look at the electrical disturbance. It just looks like the T1000 is giving me a gut punch or whatever but in retrospect you're like oh no he, Oh no, he stabbed that guy through the heart.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah, and he's so personable, like when he goes to John Connor's house, you know? Well, that's interesting as well because I think in retrospect, when we look back on these movies, and I think also because Robert Patrick did a version of this in other media, like he did in an Awaiians World movie. Yes, and he did it in Last Action Hero. Yeah, like I think we think back about this character like oh he's so unfeeling and sinister and sinister but the initial yeah appearance of this guy when he's when he goes to the foster parents when he when he's talking to the kids at the mall you know etc he is
Starting point is 00:04:17 really genial and you're like oh like if I didn't know yeah it's interesting because he doesn't do that when he's not around people. Like you see him switch it on. It's incredible. What an amazing performance, what an amazing find. Because James Cameron of course wanted somebody unknown, but he wasn't the first choice. Was it Lance Hendricks again? No Mason, he died in the first movie. Remember?
Starting point is 00:04:38 He got machine guns. Yeah, but Skynet doesn't have all the files. So maybe they'd be like, maybe he lived. Maybe he lived. Yeah, maybe he lived. So the original idea for this was to send back two Terminators and they were both Arnold. So it was Arnold v Arnold, then the good Arnold wins, and then as a last ditch effort,
Starting point is 00:04:57 they send back this experimental liquid metal one. When did Double Impact come out, the Jean-Claude Van Damme movie? That's a great question. Isn't it though? I can't remember. Here's the year. It Van Damme movie? That's a great question. Isn't it though? I can't remember Here's the year. It's big on the screen. It's great Then it was thought look we'll just scrap that idea We'll just go with the t1000 version and it was going to be the return of mr. Bean
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yes, so that they flip it even more where Kyle Reese is the is the face of the villain this time around That also wouldn't really work either because that would mean Skynet knows who he is Because as far as they know he's just one of many soldiers They would have targeted him specifically in the future if they thought he was important. That's true I mean, I don't hate the the idea of it and I think that would also that would add an interesting element to this because Sarah Connor has seen him die and then he returns and then she'd be like, has she gone off the deep end kind of thing? Which is, you know, an element to this where everybody's trying to convince that she's
Starting point is 00:05:51 crazy even though she's right. Oh my god. I love that element of this movie where, first of all, her character development, what a performance and the muscles, the bad dreams that she's having, the range that she displays in this is incredible. And like you mentioned, she's having, the range that she displays in this is incredible. And like you mentioned, she's right and there are people that know she's right and they're just letting her rot in jail, basically. Yeah, amazing. And of course, Linda Hamilton's twin sister is in this, the extended version, which is the one that we watched.
Starting point is 00:06:17 There's a couple of twins in this, right? Oh yeah, there is. There's the two guys from Gremlins, Gremlins 2, I believe. One stabs the other through the eye. And Linda Hamilton's twin sister who has since passed away. Yeah, I mean, it's such a good and cheap way to do an effect. If you've just got two of the same people. Well, it's not an effect. It's just two people. See also Xander and Buffy brought his twin brother in.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Oh yeah. The Ashmoors. The Ashmoors. Have they ever played twins in a thing? That's a great question. I think they're against it. They're against it? Well, maybe they're just waiting for the right role.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Hey, can I get a role in Quantum Break? No. Only I may be in the game Quantum Break. Other Ashmoor. Get out of here. Oh my goodness. And this Terminator movie also has my favourite version of John Connor, the guy from the future. The guy who doesn't get any lines?
Starting point is 00:07:04 His name's Michael Edwards. He has actually reprised the role of John Connor in a fan film called Skynet, a Terminator fan film which is set many, many years after the war. Is it set in the... Or at the end of the war. Is it set in the peaceful future where he's wearing a tucked in salmon coloured sweater? No Mason, that's only in the extended version, Mason. We did watch the extended version so in the the original version, he only gets the one scene.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah. Post apocalyptic 2029. He's got the scar on his face. But then in the in the extended version, we see, you know, the war has been averted and he's playing with his daughter on the playground and there's some there's some pretty horrendous old Sarah kind of makeup going on and some very horrendous future fashion. Oh yeah, it seems like the back to the future to future. That's what they've stumbled into. Just headbands and jumpsuits all the way down the line. I like to, and I am jumping to the end,
Starting point is 00:07:54 the ambiguity of this ending, and it's not an ending because these movies will go forever, that it is very much up in the air. And it's just, and I know you like this, it's just this ongoing time war. It just goes and goes. And I also like the idea that the reason that all the John Connors look different
Starting point is 00:08:10 is because they're all different sperm. Sure. So. Why are you always thinking about sperm when you're watching these movies? Because the idea that if you came back Yeah, yeah. and shoved somebody, it would change everything.
Starting point is 00:08:22 That's true. And every time you go back in time and you shake it about. Yeah. In different manners. You're gonna get a different sperm. that's true and I'm at the every time you go back in time in here you shake it about yeah In different manners you're gonna get a different spur That's true But I also love the idea because obviously in the first in the first Terminator movie They only have time to send back one Terminator and one resistance fighter. Yeah, and they've sort of retconned it slightly here So that's like well actually there was another room and there was enough there was room for another Terminator and an additional t-800
Starting point is 00:08:45 I love the idea that this this time frame keeps getting retconned now And there's more and more rooms more mold rooms, and it's a long weekend now Yeah, well actually the original opening for this that they didn't film But did storyboard was going to be the intro to Terminator 1 and then they find the second room They find that one of the T-800s has Been off the shelf that's in the novel. It's in the novel exactly and also they did it in Terminator Genesis Yeah until Matt Smith showed up and changed all the sperm Matt Smith with his sperm changing ray gun
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah, love all of that but yeah the John Connor they got here is played by Edward Furlong. I think he's a good find. I think there is kind of a, there's an amateur kind of element to some of the line readings, but that's also because a lot of this movie is ADR'd as well. And it's very noticeable on him. But I like the kind of attitude that he brings to this. Because he, I know his father wasn't around when he was cast. He wasn't an actor.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Like James Cameron was looking for somebody who was just kind of a rotten kid, you know And I'm not saying he's a rotten kid, but I'm saying there is that attitude there You know and not just the hostile of Easter in the slang that stuff is very cringe Mason Did Edward Furlong hold him up at an ATM or something? That's right. Hey old man. Give me all your money. You got something kid. And I do have a lot of money. You pegged me good. I do have a lot of money. I have submarine money. That's right he does doesn't he? Or maybe not at this point. I have multiple divorces money. Oh yeah. So the T-800 returns in this and what I like about the return of Arnold is that he's outdated.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And there is this tension of like, fuck this guy's getting whittled away You know, I also appreciate that He has no look what one of the things that I appreciate about this movie is on the larger scale that When the t-800 and the t-1000 fight, they're just silent killers. Yeah, there's no quips. There's no nothing They're not playing for an audience. They're just trying to kill each other, so it's just deathly silence. They're also of the same technology. So obviously one's just more advanced than the other. But I also love the idea that the T-800 knows he's not going anywhere after this, so it doesn't bother him at all that all his pieces are coming off. You know when he has to reveal
Starting point is 00:11:01 to Miles Dyson that he is a Terminator, he just whips all the skin off his arm and then he just puts a glove over the top. Like, I'm not going to need any of that skin later. Who cares? Exactly, yeah. That first confrontation they have in the hallway, just coming to a head, the Pepsi can guy just gets obliterated in the process. Just happened to be there. But the way that they were kind of built was that the t-800 is like a tank
Starting point is 00:11:25 He's like a Sherman tank like this. There's no bells and whistles to him He's just he's just like a battering ram and the t-1000 is like a Porsche He's probably not as strong because he's gonna say he's a young Sherman That's the name of the sitcom right young Sherman tank So he's he's probably he doesn't have the mass and like that metal skeleton But you know, he could do a thing where if you punch him in the head, he'll morph his arm around and whatever Oh great stuff. We've got to talk about the special effects in this but just quickly now I can skip them That's fine. People get it. Yeah, the only
Starting point is 00:11:59 Conversation those two have is when they're on the phone pretending to be other people. Yes, uh-huh. I love that. And then of course that first chase sequence down the canal. Just incredible. Like my god. Unbelievable stuff. Real truck crash. Does that canal ever have water in it?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Why would it need water? That's a great point. It's good for bikes. It is good for bikes. That's true, yeah. That's a good question. I guess they emptied it for this at the very least. Yeah. It's where they have the race in Greece, probably Mason, you know? Oh yeah. It's a similar situation.
Starting point is 00:12:31 It's where Buckaroo Banza and all his friends walk in, right? That's true. They have a little strut down in the canal, right? I love all of that. Yeah. That's a real truck crash. But the, if I remember correctly, when, when Arnold Orange stunt double motorcycle jump down, that's on wires. It is. I is I mean it is it just basically takes the heavy landing out of it But yeah, that's a real jump. Yeah, so the team 1000 the idea of that was actually in the original Terminator And it was thought by James Cameron or we could do like a claymation version of this Which is also like clay fighter like clay fighter which was also considered for the Abyss, what we have talked about the Abyss, like that water face, like can you project something
Starting point is 00:13:08 onto a claymation kind of, and I'm glad they kind of waited to do this. There's actually only 42 CGI shots in this entire movie. But we remember all of them. Oh, just incredible. And you know what I think really sells it? I mean, there's a number of things, but the reflections on it are so good.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah, I think also they get better towards the end. I think the money is being spent very well here. They're like, okay, we need this to be completely and totally convincing towards the end. Like when he emerges from the truck or when he regenerates from the liquid nitrogen explosion and you see all the fire reflected in him is reforming. That looks incredible. Unbelievable. It's never been done better
Starting point is 00:13:48 except for the movie Terminator Genesis with the T-1000. That's right. God, that's a good movie, isn't it? Hmm, no. No, I don't think it is. You know what else I- It had potential, is all I'm saying. It did.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Well, James Cameron liked it or said he liked it. What I I find interesting about the t1000 is also the law behind it, which isn't really in the movie But just that he's a bit of a loose unit. He's one of a kind. Yes, I'm going it also He's got he's got a swell head about it. Yeah, just you're gonna time travel me first class, right? Skynet didn't want to send him they'd'd lost the war and it was a last ditch effort. But they didn't want to send him also because if they put something like this back in time, what does he evolve into if you just leave something like that by itself? They didn't even know what he was going to do really? Oh I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Where are you getting this war props? This is all like behind the scenes and book stuff and whatever. He also initially went back in a flesh sack because you know, there's that question of if he's made of metal How does he time travel? He just does he's the bad guy. He just does all right. His skin can mimic enough I guess yeah, it doesn't matter but look special effects. There is a lot of Traditional filmmaking techniques in this there's stuff in this which has been used in the first Terminator. There's stop motion in the future sequence. There's a rear projection of some Terminators walking in the background. Those are stop motion and the foreground ones are like the puppeteered ones, right?
Starting point is 00:15:16 There's things like that. There's a lot of Rear-projection in this movie and there's obvious stuff like when they escape the psychiatric hospital It looks pretty obvious that there that's rear projection when you know Sarah Connor's checking John Connor, but the one shot that I never noticed. It's where Arnold lifts Edward furlong off the bike Oh, yeah, that's rear projection, and it's so quick, and it's in broad daylight. I did I never spotted it I just think that's incredible. Pretty good. Anyway, the digital stuff. Yeah, the meat of it. Again, every moment of that, like you said,
Starting point is 00:15:49 there's only 40 something shots, but every single one of those from, you know, the initial, the bullet holes sealing themselves up on the T1000, the moment where the T1000 pushes the spike through the elevated doors and then turns it into like, hooks to pull the door open I think that's my I mean a safety switch would kick in order. They would have opened up automatically He did it he did it in a robot. Yeah, that's actually I think it's got my favorite line and moment in this movie
Starting point is 00:16:14 My new favorite moment I guess because I'd never noticed it before When the door opens an adult like blasts his head and it splits apart Sarah Connor just goes what the fuck is going on? Like she's seen so much stuff, but even her at this point is just like, I don't know what's happening. Somebody explain. Honestly, I thought I was on top of all this crazy stuff. Every summer, my family is lucky enough to stay at an Airbnb. We pick a nice affordable area, take some time off and enjoy some beach time. Last summer, we rented a cute beach house down by the Mornington Peninsula. Nothing beats taking some time off to disconnect, we rented some paddleboards
Starting point is 00:16:49 and spent most of the sunny days drifting on the water. Bliss! If you've ever stayed in an Airbnb before, perhaps like me you've thought to yourself, this actually seems pretty doable. Maybe my place could be an Airbnb. Because I know I have and it turns out it's not as complicated as you might think. Hosting can be as simple as starting with a spare room, or your whole place, when you're away for work or a holiday. If you're like me and you live for the long weekends with family and friends, hosting that extra bedroom could be a practical way to make a little extra income on the side whilst doing what really matters in life, enjoying time with loved ones.
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Starting point is 00:17:53 the moment where he has been frozen by the liquid nitrogen, his arm and leg comes off. That's real, yeah. That is a person who's an amputee. Yeah, that's right, exactly. And it's just shot in a way where... And the moment in the psychiatric hospital where the checkerboard floor comes up and turns into a man, that was just a very flat man.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But he could only do it once. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad he saved it for this movie. My personal favorite T-1000 moments. Mine's the checkerboard floor. Well, that's good too. But the bit where he turds out of the elevator roof. Or when he turns into the helicopter. I just like him turning into something. Is that, is that a verb now? Is it? Yeah. Maybe you should see a doctor or something. Is that what your mornings are like? It's horrendous. More fibrous. I thought you meant for my brain. I mean, a doctor of the brain. I mean both ends man. Yeah, you're probably right.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah. So yeah, obviously a big point of this movie, which was going to be done in the first, but they carried over here was stop the war, stop the future war, destroy the bits of the Terminator that were left over from the first movie and shut down Cyber Knight and all of that. Well, we got to do it. Mason's minigun minute, here we go. Incredible, it's a classic minigun, obviously. It's the same one for Predator.
Starting point is 00:19:10 He's told not to kill anybody. That's true. Is that a problem for you? Yeah, it gets zero out of 10 because he doesn't kill anybody. 0.0 casualties, if I recall correctly. That's right, yeah. Anyway, and 0.0 out of 10. But man, it's, I mean, I think the rate of fire
Starting point is 00:19:22 is probably a little slow for that. They slowed it down. They slowed the sound effect down. So it's uh, I mean, I think the rate of fire is probably a little slow for that. They slowed it down They slowed the sound effect down. So you so it's not just a like a bus but I mean that's the I mean that's you know, that is the nature of a minigun in Hollywood because like Realistically, you'd get one second of firing out of that and it'd be out of bullets. So you're probably right Yeah, but that's cool. It's cool as hell. It's cool as hell The coolest hell bit as well when Arnold walks down the corridor It does cut to a puppet head you see a few times when the scribes are going off on the face
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah, and he shoots that dude in the back with a gas canister just unnecessarily cruel Yeah And also what's amazing about that's that I mean that's that's I mean if I may just the moment where he just They they all take shots at him and then they're this pausing to reload. He just kneecaps all of them It's so funny. It is. And also, because they all lived, how do you explain that? How do you live with that moment for the rest of your life?
Starting point is 00:20:14 They're all being interviewed by the chief and he's like, did you miss him? No, we shot him hundreds of times. And then well, he kneecapped all of us. He just walked right up to us and he shot all of us clean through the knee. Boy did he, yeah. The T1000 getting into the helicopter when he turds into it. That helicopter pilot is, he's the guy who did the stunt with the helicopter flying out of the bridge.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Amazing, love that, practical. But yeah, here's a new segment of the show. It's called... It's called Turding Around with James Clements. No, it's called Mace-O show. Go on. It's called... It's called, Turting Around with James Clements. No, it's called, Mace-O owes Robert Patrick a single dollar. Oh, why is this? We watched this years ago.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Oh, is it the three-arm thing? It's the three-arm thing. And I said, I'd heard that there's a few shots where you can see the T-1000 using three arms. So he's shooting with some and using a third arm to steer the helicopter. Well, you need two hands to operate a helicopter so I mean he's
Starting point is 00:21:06 doing that he's got one hand out with a gun and I was like that seems insane yes but you're right but is that no but you said yes if that happens in the movie yeah you would send Robert Patrick a single dollar. I guess I'm going to. He's not on cameo you're gonna have to figure it out. I'll figure it out he's on Instagram I'll send him a dollar or I'll send a dollar to his charity of his choice, right? I mean with inflation, it's probably a little bit more and it's probably if you will say it's a US dollar So well, okay. Yeah in fairness that sounds insane and you think they'd make a bigger deal I don't I never noticed this only in the extended version. No, I don't think so. You can see snippets of it in
Starting point is 00:21:42 Regardless, I'm a man of my word Yeah We watched it on like VHS taped off the TV or whatever I'm still surprised by all the swearing in this because the version that I watched to get it again was the version that was taped off TV So yeah, it all culminates in the final sequence in the big steel mill which is actually super cold, they just made it look super hot
Starting point is 00:22:00 That's crazy So yeah, I mean, the bit where the Terminator stands on the front of the truck and just empties a machine gun into the T1000 is great. The truck flips. That's a miniature truck as it flips. Like it cuts between a real truck and a miniature one and then a real one again. And then of course, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:17 the bit where he shoots him or whatever and he breaks apart. In the extended version, that's when he starts to malfunction. Yes. Which I think is really interesting. And I understand why they probably cut out some of those malfunctioning moments because I don't think it's 100% convincing.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah, I'd agree with that. Whereas the rest of it absolutely is. That handshake one he does is really good. His hands start to replicate the hazard tape on a banister or a gantry and then he shakes it out. Yeah, that's a bit of fun. That bit when they have that punch up and he hits the wall and he reverses? Yeah yeah. Jesus Christ and when Arnold like splits him with the crowbar? Yeah right. God! Yeah yeah yeah. And then Sarah Connor's like racking the shotgun and
Starting point is 00:22:55 like you think oh well she's gonna be the one to destroy the Terminator because it's Sarah Connor and then she runs out of bullets and you're like why don't you just tackle him into the fucking lava or whatever. God. There's of course the moment where the T1000. I'm just naming things like that. Yeah I know right. It's one of those videos I'm afraid. The moment where the T1000 pins Arnie to the floor with a big spike. And look, I mean there is a moment having rewatched this movie a hundred times where
Starting point is 00:23:21 you're like surely he would utterly destroy Arnie at this point. Yeah. You know, you wouldn't just leave him to return to the end. But then you think, well, okay, first of all, the T 1000, you know, he's malfunctioning at this point. Yeah, he's not he's not right of mind. Yeah. And you might be like, well, what? How does he not know that
Starting point is 00:23:36 Arnold has a backup power supply? You know, whatever. But then I'm like, well, I mean, Arnold returns to life using the ultimate power supply, the power of friendship. That's right. Exactly. And the T 1000 doesn't know anything about that. He's a diva You know, he doesn't know true friendship. No, he really doesn't and he probably never will. Well, they got melted by that still Yeah, he did big time. He changed it everyone. I'm gonna melting and then it's really sad because the terminate has to be like I'm done
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yeah, I'm done big time. But also at that point he's so fucked up where it's like dude. You gotta go Yeah, you can't be walking around. Yeah, we can't take you through an airport or at the movies or anything You are He'll up will it yeah, I don't know man. We're gonna keep you in a box like What are we gonna? What are we doing here? Yeah? Yeah, you can't be walking around like that I'll also shout out to Joe Morton as miles Dyson. Oh, yeah Oh gotta be one of my favorite gotta be one of my favorite, gotta be one of my favorite just- Guy breathing heavily before he dies.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Oh my god, some incredible work. Iconic, yeah. Great, great, great stuff. Completely agree. This is a good movie. It is a good movie, isn't it? I don't care what anybody says. I mean, I don't care about the people who make a comment
Starting point is 00:24:38 and then go, actually, this is a good movie, Caravan of Garbage, you're a Caravan of Garbage. We know. We suck, all right? We could never make this movie, and neither could you. That's right. Unless you're a caravan of garbage we know we suck all right we could never make this movie and neither could you that's right James Cameron yeah which case you did and well done anyways it's time for trivia to judgment trivia I don't know I wrote trivia to trivia to I don't know I'm losing it some bullies in it Mason I think I need to see a doctor I think you do I've been saying
Starting point is 00:25:00 that yeah cuz my first bit of trivia just says piss cake John Connor does say it. He's saying a piece of cake. No, he says he does say piss cake. Yeah Yeah, it's a real one small step for a man One giant leap for mankind situation. That's right Arnold Schwarzenegger was given a slightly used Gulfstream 3 airplane worth about 14 million by producer Mario Kazza for accepting a role in this film A role of the Terminator, but he also got paid money. He got paid also 15 million dollars For his 700 words that he spoke. I mean he also did other acting. He did a lot of other acting He got very fit. He did yeah, they put out that cigar on him. Did they? Yeah for real. That's rude Here's something that is rude Linda Hamilton got 1 million dollars. That is rude. Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:49 That would probably explain. It's a lot. It's a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've got a million for aliens, but still I mean she's putting in she's putting in the hard yards Yeah, I mean and that would probably explain her reluctance to come back from most of the sequels some of the sequels Yeah, I mean she got that dark fake money now. That's true. Oh, she got paid a lot for that, right? Absolutely, she did. Good, good. Here's the amount.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Nice. I didn't look it up, Lawrence looked it up. Edward Furlong immediately got along with Arnold Schwarzenegger as the actor had not grown up with a father figure. Linda Hamilton joked that she experienced excruciating moments as she was forced to listen to Arnold give Furlong advice about women and stated they got along so well because they were emotionally the same age. There you go. Fun stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah, just breathe some cigar smoke into their face. That's right. They will fall in love. When... Also be Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. If you can do that, if you can do that. It's easy.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah. He did it. Anyone can do it. When the team, the team, their team, they break into the... The Terma team. That's right. They, he did it anyone can do it. Mm-hmm when the team the time they're a time they break into the term a time That's right. They break into cyber nine systems. Sarah is wearing Kyle's gray trench coat from the first movie Oh, which I think is true. It looks like it anyway I mean they had they had a trench coat on hand because in the extended edition. There's a oh, yeah the dream sequence That's right. Michael B. Mr. B makes an appearance
Starting point is 00:27:02 Denzel Washington turned down the role of miles Bennett Dyson He said no offense to Jim Cameron, but when I read the script, I thought all he does is look scared and sweat I had to pass. Yeah, fair enough good roll though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah relatable to the common man. I'm always Staring and sweating. Yep. There is a resistance soldier that you find in the game Terminator Resistance that looks like Robert Patrick. Now that game is canon in terms of the Terminator lore. I mean it's all canon. Everything Terminator related is canon because it's multiple fucked up timelines. That is true. So what you're suggesting there is that the T-1000 was based visually on this resistance soldier. Yeah. It's in the game. And that's fun. That is soldier. I can write in the game. OK, and that's fun. It is fun. Yeah, like fun.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Often people say the real Terminator trilogy is that resistance game Terminator one. Go on. Terminator, Genesis, no one's ever said no, no, no. It's the most tonally and image wise, like consistent with the first two movies. All right. Everything I would say. OK, yeah. Anyways, in terms of box office on a budget of around $100 million, it was the most expensive movie of all time. It made $520 million, and that's on its initial release.
Starting point is 00:28:12 It did huge numbers in terms of merchandise, like re-releases, special editions. You know that toy where you make the Arnold skin around the Terminator and then you can peel the skin off? Oh yeah. Yeah man, they saw a bunch of those probably. Well yeah, you could only use them all once. Yeah, that's true. To buy another one every time,
Starting point is 00:28:29 Mom, I wanna make the Terminator again. I'm gonna make the Terminator skin. Yeah, the opening titles of this alone was the same budget as the first Terminator. Damn. That's what we're talking about here. And also, there was actually going to be another Terminator 3 before the one that we got.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Okay. Where Edward Furlong was going to come back, mm-hmm. James Cameron was going to be part of it. There was kind of a TX kind of style Terminator in it. This is a whole other thing we'll discuss in another video when we do Terminator, more Terminator sequels. But yeah, it's worth looking into if you're,
Starting point is 00:28:58 if you're interested in the real Terminator 3 or the original Terminator 3. Oh yeah, we're going to get one eventually. Absolutely. But you know what I like seeing? What's that? I like seeing things at bigsandwich.co Good good. For example, it's good segue. For example, these videos always go up there early. Here's a hint towards next week Fucked if I know. Blank schedule Mason. Alright. What do you got? What do you think? Terminator 4? Because we've done three
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah, I kind of want to do. Oh, you know, I know Hellboy there we go Oh, you know how boy there we go, and then I have nothing Hell boy, too. Yeah boy, too. Probably. Yeah, but that's not the only thing there. It's not just early videos You know what else there is? There is a bonus podcast. That's right. There's movie commentaries. Yep. There's video game. Let's place That's right Now speaking of we have done bonus podcasts on a couple of Terminator comics which are worth checking out. Including Robocop vs. The Terminator. That's right.
Starting point is 00:29:48 We also played a bunch of Terminator 1 and Terminator 2 video games on our series that's exclusive there, Never Go Back. Just watch me just hammer through a bunch of bad games. Oh, there's also a video from many years ago where we read Robocop versus the Terminator 2. Oh yeah! Which was where Robocop inserts himself into the movie Terminator 2. That is on this channel. That is free!
Starting point is 00:30:10 That's free! That's not paywalled. Or maybe I'll take it down and paywall it. What an incredible comic. Anyways, if you do want to sign up, that helps support this show, keeps it ad free. We really appreciate it, but of course you don't have to. You might just want to check out our podcast, The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. that comes out every Monday,
Starting point is 00:30:26 if you are interested. It's got us on YouTube channels, on Spotify. It's on other platforms, Apple, whatever. I love that. I love The Terminator. Oh, you know what? The bit where the T-1000 just walks through the hospital, like the gate.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. Oh, it just passes all the way through. And his gun gets stuck. Yeah. Oh my God, I love that moment. And that guy's like, what the fricking hell? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said the shit wasn't real. Yeah, I'm looking at it
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