The Weekly Planet - The Rocketeer - Caravan Of Garbage
Episode Date: September 21, 2023Before Captain America: The First Avengers director Joe Johnston brought us The Rocketeer. Second in our series of pulpy/throwback comic back adaptations (that failed) this adaptation takes us back t...o the 1930s, an era with rocket powered heros, thin moustachioed villians and swashbuckling action. Intended to kick off a new Indiana Jones styled adventure series it fell short of Disney's expectations and is largely forgotten despite being quite a fun ride. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back, everybody, to Caravan of Garbage where we're making our way through a series of movies
Well it's not a series, they're individual films
That's right
That failed on their own merit
Absolutely
But they have a vague thing in common sort of
You know it when you see it
This is the you know it when you see it series
It's sort of old and some of them really are old and some of them only look old some of them like the concept is
kind of old yep yep i mean all of them though yep you have to leave a like on that is true that is
the law that is the law yeah my goodness mason and i guess the law that links this movie to dick
tracy is you also thought it was old you said to hey, let's do a bunch of stuff based on all the old stuff.
Dick Tracy, the 30s, The Phantom, the 30s.
The Rocketeer, that's probably from the 30s.
And I said, James, you fool.
You absolute buffoon.
That's right.
I'm airing out a dirty laundry on this video.
And I said, James, that's probably from the 80s or something.
And it is probably from the 80s.
It is exactly from the 80s, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, do you want to do a bit of backstory on the rocketeer well look i mean you are not entirely wrong in the i
mean you were entirely wrong i was being too merciful yeah i was gonna say because you've
already had quite a lot of dirty laundry okay literally also you've bought me your washing
that's penance that's true but look by coincidence, there were a bunch of like Rocket Men style adventures
sort of from the 40s and 50s.
And Elton John.
That's true.
The King of the Rocket Men.
Commando Cody, who's the Rocket King of the Universe or something.
Do you remember that one?
No.
Well, anyway.
Because I'm not 100 years old, Mason.
Jesus.
This guy.
So gone.
Wow, that's 100-year-old man erasure.
That's a real kick in the guts to me,
a 100-year-old man that looks really good for 100,
but not good for whatever, however, it doesn't matter.
Anyway, so comic book writer and artist Dave Stevens
was asked by the owners of the publishing company Pacific Comics,
now defunct, to do some backup stories in one of their main comic books.
They said, David, we need some backup stories, David.
David.
David.
If you're not too busy, David.
We don't have time.
We're busy driving this company to the ground.
We're making 3D comics or something.
Oh, why?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to drive the company to the ground.
Oh, perfect.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, he came up with the concept of the Rocketeer,
again, based on these kind of old Rocket Men style serials.
And again, where I was going with this, to give you some credit,
even though you're wrong and you're a fool and a buffoon,
this has the absolute exact flavour of that.
Like, it feels very authentic.
Definitely.
You know what I mean?
You're talking specifically the comic, but also the movie, right?
What I think is incredible about this is the cast, for one.
So often when we're
watching like a period piece we like to judge the casting or the characters by if they look like
they could identify the specific portable music player that was popular at the time it was filmed
absolutely does that make sense it absolutely does you're watching you're watching amsterdam
and you're looking at these actors
and you're like, do they know what an iPhone looks like?
You know what I mean?
Do any of these people?
Do they have a Spotify account?
I bet they do.
Do they put out their best Spotify songs on Twitter every year?
Is that what they're doing?
That's exactly right.
Okay, so James, Christian Bale knows what an iPod looks like?
I would say not in that movie and also not in real life.
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
John David Washington.
Yeah.
Yeah, he does.
He grew up with Denzel Washington.
Yeah, yeah.
He had all the technology.
Yeah.
He probably had laser discs.
Yeah, that's right.
You know?
Margot Robbie?
Kind of a chameleon, you know?
Even though she is Australian, I get lost in the roles that she does.
Yeah, right.
So I'm going to say she can pull off that look.
I think she knows what an iPod looks like and she had like one of those pink finished you're thinking of barbie
barbie isn't it is literally coloring your mind that's true anya taylor joy i don't even know
what she is where's she from i don't know the chameleon this cast yeah you're right uh looks
like she plays all her music off wax cylinders to this very day absolutely but what is it like
haunting ghost noises or something what is it like haunting
ghost noises or something absolutely no it's haunting ghost noises it's like a creaking ship
yeah like nymphs sirens like sirens singing their haunting song to get sailors to crash into a reef
or whatever unsettling laughter yeah yeah yeah just doors closing in a weird way hey send us
your playlist daniel taylor, send it to us.
And I feel like looking at this cast, even though a lot of them are very recognisable,
is that nobody here knows what a Walkman is.
No, absolutely not.
It's the haircuts.
It's the moustaches.
Yes.
It's the aesthetic.
Yeah.
And, you know, and again, it's like it's Alan Arkin and Timothy Dalton and Jennifer Connelly.
Alan Arkin doesn't know what a Walkman looks like now.
Well, I think he's dead.
Well, he definitely doesn't now.
Depends.
Yeah.
Depends what goes on in the afterlife.
I mean, as far as I know, they have Walkmans in heaven.
It's those yellow sports Walkmans.
Oh, they would.
Yeah, they would.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, no, this is a great cast, I think.
Yeah.
And look, he's not really like a, he didn't become like a leading man in the way that a lot of guys from this era might have.
But Cliff Secord, as played by Billy Campbell,
I think he does a really good job.
Initially, they were going to go with some bigger names.
But Joe Johnston, who I want to talk about as well,
who directed this,
he wanted somebody who more embodies the part physically
and also in spirit.
And the haircut, obviously.
The haircut's really important.
Very important.
When you take the helmet off, it has to reform into its correct shape immediately.
That's right.
And you might be like, well, just give him a buzz cut.
Well, that's not.
That's not in the comic.
Right?
It's a floppy kind of, you know.
He's a young man.
He's a youngish man.
He's going to the sock hop, probably.
He's going to the malt shop.
Yep.
He's going to a malt shop sock hop. That's right. He's putting on a record. That's right. He's not to the sock hop probably. He's going to the malt shop. He's going to a malt shop sock hop.
That's right. He's putting on a record.
He's not putting on a headphone
with a tape. He's not putting on one of those metal
over the head headphones and they've got the soft
like the
foam. I hate those.
He's not putting on one of those ones that's got the radio built
in on the side. I hate those.
I still think they're cool. They're not cool.
But yeah, I think the idea of putting Joe Johnston behind this,
and if you don't know him,
he did a lot of special effect and design work on the original Star Wars.
For example, he created the look of Boba Fett.
Oh.
Yeah, which is pretty incredible.
He's got a rocket pack.
He's got a rocket pack.
He's got a rocket pack, everybody.
He also directed Honey, I Shrunk the Kids.
He directed Jumanji.
He directed a bunch of stuff in between.
And then he directed Captain America, the first Avenger.
Absolutely, that's right.
Which in a lot of ways is just like, fuck it, I'm making the Rocketeer again.
Do you think when he first came on set for the Rocketeer,
he was like, okay, so here's the deal with the Rocketeer.
We've done a sort of slight tweak of the costume and the rocket pack.
Looks incredible.
Now we're going to give him five minutes of screen time and and he's going to fly directly into a jet turbine and die
you know like boba fett did like boba fett did yeah but just i feel like the look of this movie
and the casting is just perfect all around timothy dalton as this kind of evil errol flynn
oh yeah there we go sorry i jumped on that but I just want to say this. Minus being a Nazi,
even though Errol Flynn did have a
real life mate who turns out was
a Nazi, but he might not have known
because he was a spy. Okay, sure.
But yeah, terrible
person. Don't get me wrong. He just might
not have been a Nazi. Terrible
person. Openly. Yeah, terrible person
but apparently not terrible enough that we won't
still claim him as an Australian. Yeah.
He was in that Robin Hood movie, you know.
Oh, great point. We'll take it. But yeah, he's
just got this perfect level of charisma
but also slime to him, Timothy
Dalton. The most sinister
hairline you'll see in a movie. Absolutely.
And just pulls off that tweedly
thin moustache like no one else can.
There's a moment where he's in front of the mirror and he's wearing
like the Robin Hood-esque wig. Because there's also a moment in this's in front of the mirror and he's wearing like the Robin Hood-esque wig
because there's also a moment in this where he's just,
it looks like he's just making the movie Robin Hood,
like the one from the 30s,
and he whips off the Robin Hood wig
and then he's just got the hairline in the face
and it's just like, damn, this guy's killing it.
I can see why he's James Bond sort of, I think,
but a more sinister James Bond, you know?
Like James Bond if he was a sharpened pencil,
but he was sharpened too much, you know?
That's what he's like.
Yeah.
But, you know, other people turn up like Paul Savino.
Yes.
Who, of course, was also in Dick Tracy.
That's right.
And also there's a guy with a really big face.
Oh, my God.
Look, I don't have the actor's name.
I'll bring it up.
You can look it up.
But, my goodness, just a classic goon,
just a classic monstrous goon that you'll punch in the chest
and he just won't feel it.
You wouldn't see a big goon bend a guy in half to death
in a kid's movie these days.
You know what I mean?
He does it like twice in this movie.
Absolutely he does.
His name is Tiny Ron Taylor.
Wow.
His parents probably named him when he was a baby,
when he was quite tiny.
Maybe he was tiny and it's all camera trickery, you know.
Maybe.
And that's movies.
You're not wrong.
That is movies.
You just can't tell.
It's movies are just basically just lying.
I hope people know that.
It's just lies.
Oh, that says that he's just a bunch of cats taped together.
But I think also like some of the design elements of this, like the jetpack itself.
What a beautiful piece of machinery.
Yeah, it had a pretty comprehensive redesign from the one in the comic books
where it's more like just a big bullet, like a big squat bullet
with a couple of kind of UFO-style rings around it.
But I think this design works way better.
Completely agree.
Is that because I saw the movie before I read the comic books?
Who knows?
Maybe there are purists out there who are like,
no, bring back the, I've made an edit where I put in the original rocket pack in the movie before I read the comic books? Who knows? Maybe there are purists out there who are like, no, bring back the, I've made an edit where I put
in the original rocket pack in the movie.
And by that I mean I've cut it out of the comic book
and I've stuck it on my TV and I'm moving around.
Oh, so it's not like deep fake but for rocket packs.
No.
And obviously the specific mechanics of it,
they don't work.
Like even if it is designed like they say it is
where it does not overheat
so it will not explode, like it would just burn your bum right up really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If I had one criticism, yeah, it doesn't have a butt covering plate
or some sort of, like they mentioned it's sort of, you know,
you mentioned it's sort of a double-walled system to prevent it
from heating up too much.
Some sort of double-walled double buttock cover?
Yeah.
Like some sort of steel buttock cup that you put
on your buttocks i mean it that wouldn't look cool you'd have to build it under the pants you know
or make it part of the the equipment because the thing about this thing though is it's so dangerous
like even within this movie and the world it's like the worst thing you could fly like you
couldn't pick a worse thing to just get around on. That's true.
Even if you know what you're doing.
That's true.
I mean, it looks spectacular.
I think all the flying in this is, for the most part,
there's some, you know, you can see some compositing, you know, going on.
But I think they match the speed of the footage they shot
with, you know, the Rocketeer himself really well.
I think that works for the most part.
Also in this movie, like great production design,
great costumes,
just some beautiful death traps of planes out there.
You know the,
what's it called?
The GB?
The first one.
The first one,
the yellow one.
It looks like a shoemason.
It looks more like a boat than a plane.
What were they thinking with that?
The moment where he crash lands it
and they smash the landing gear off.
Yeah.
Now presumably that's all wired, like it's not a real plane stunt.
I don't know.
Looked like one.
Yeah, but just really impressive stuff.
I agree.
Yeah.
I also like in this how the Nazis, who they're after.
Wait, wait, stop there.
Okay.
You like how the Nazis.
How they made a little cartoon.
I know that is, that's undeniably pretty good.
They're like, look, we're going to do some world domination,
but we need to sell this.
In secret, in secret.
We need to sell this to the younger demographic, you know?
But, you know, as a piece of, like, propaganda,
and maybe they send it over to Timothy Dalton to be like,
this will convince him.
He's a man of acting.
He can appreciate animation, no doubt.
He's probably friends with Walt Disney,
who maybe was also a Nazi sympathiser, maybe Mason.
Whoa.
I hope I'm not saying anything too controversial that I'll get cancelled.
I think you're not saying anything controversial enough.
Okay.
So ramp it up.
Ramp it up?
I'll just cut out the bit where you said I thought the Nazis were cool or whatever that was.
Oh, now I've said it.
Oh, no.
Nobody make a fan cam out of that.
So you've got your Nazis.
You've got your FBI.
You've got your mob. They're all your FBI, you've got your mob.
They're all after it.
I have a note here.
I saw in the credits
Terry O'Quinn
was going to be in this.
You know, Terry O'Quinn
from Lost.
And I'm like,
that's exciting.
Yeah, what do you mean
was going to be in it?
He is in it.
No, but I mean,
I saw a note in the...
I thought you meant
you were going through
the credits.
You're like, wow.
Oh, sorry, I'll start again.
So I saw in the titles
that Terry O'Quinn
was going to be in this.
And I'm like,
ooh, I'm so excited. And one of the scenes starts and an FBI guy's there and I'm like, in the titles that Terry O'Quinn was going to be in this, and I'm like, ooh, I'm so excited.
And one of the scenes starts, and an FBI guy's there,
and I'm like, oh, it's Terry O'Quinn.
And then another scene happens.
I'm like, wait, is that Terry O'Quinn?
And then Howard Hughes is, oh, that's Terry.
There's a lot of guys back in the day who looked like Terry O'Quinn,
is all I'm saying.
Do you have Terry O'Quinn facial blindness or something?
Maybe I do.
Do I look like Terry O'Quinn to you?
I mean, a little bit.
I'm also.
something? Maybe I do. Do I look like Terry O'Quinn to you? I mean, a little bit. I'm also.
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Oh, the smoke monster, Mason.
Ayee!
Very good.
Do you remember that from the TV show Lost?
Not really.
Where Terry O'Quinn turned into the smoke monster,
or the smoke monster took his
form or something. And then he had a big punch
up with Jack in the last episode.
Yeah, they had a big punch up. Whoa!
Yeah, it was crazy. Who won the punch up?
Who won the punch up? I think the island probably.
I think it wasn't really about
the punch up, it was more about
the vibes and the feelings. And do you
hold hands at the end? Do you go to heaven?
Yes. Spoilers for Lost.
Wow.
But just seeing the Italian mob at the end, just Tommy gunning Nazis.
Nothing wrong with that, Mason.
That's for hell yeah.
I mean, I guess there's something wrong with it in the sense that, you know, the Italians initially in the war, they did, you know, Mussolini did side with Hitler.
But apparently the American mob, they were like, no, thank you.
We don't like that.
That's right.
We're in America. We're in the US of that. That's right. We're in America.
We're in the US of A.
That's right.
We're good, honest American taxpayers now.
That's right.
Yeah.
But it does.
I think the moment where it feels most Captain America is the finale where there's a big
punch up on an airship.
Oh my goodness.
Yes, please.
You know, here's a fun fact about that.
And I just want to be clear.
We're not in trivia yet.
This is different.
This is just a
thing that I'm saying. When model maker John Goodsman was building the model Zeppelin that
was going to be blown up on camera he repeatedly told the producers that they should build two.
One for them and one for him he could take home. I'm going to keep it new in box and it's going to
retain its value. Sell it on eBay later. That was in case something went wrong with the first take.
Now the studio refused, saying they didn't have the money in the budget for a second
model, but as he predicted, the first take didn't work, so the production had to pay
for a second one anyway.
Embarrassing, and then you've got to wait.
Everybody's got to wait around on set.
That's right.
You know?
There's no places to be.
Exactly.
You've got to be at that weird dog-shaped malt shop sock hop.
You know?
Yeah, I remember that one.
Oh, man, I can't believe Timothy Dalton crashed into the Hollywood sign, though.
That seems like something he would have wanted, maybe.
Oh, that character, like, that's how we would want to go.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I think he probably wanted to go with, like, surrounded by his Nazi peers as the
king of the Nazis.
Okay, right.
And then, like, hoisting him up on a chair.
Yeah, I don't think he probably would want to have died, you know, exploding with a faulty
rocket pack on his back, and then he crashes in the Hollywood sign. I don't think that would work. Okay. Yeah. I don't think he probably would want to have died, you know, exploding with a faulty rocket pack on his back and then he crashes in
the Hollywood sign. I don't think that would work.
I mean, we'll never know.
If you ever interview Timothy Dalton,
if you could just ask, what was your character
thinking as he was crashing into the Hollywood
land sign? Was it Huzzah?
Or the German equivalent of
Huzzah? Yeah, which is probably
the, you know, the salute.
Final note that I've got, before we will do some trivia is that,
oh, my God, that's Jan from The Office.
She's singing in the lounge.
Is it?
That's Jan from The Office.
She's got a name.
Here it is.
It's on the screen.
It still says Jan from The Office.
She was in Soul Band.
I don't know if you recall.
Oh, the one where, what's that guy's name again?
C. Thomas Howell? Yeah. Yeah, that one. You're seeing it Oh, the one where... What's that guy's name again? C. Thomas Howell?
Yeah.
Yeah, that one.
You're seeing it now.
This one.
No, don't put it in.
No, it's this one.
People need to know.
This is history.
Not good, but it happened.
He doesn't even look black.
He looks great.
He's great.
What happened there?
I don't know.
Who thought that was a good idea?
I don't know.
Maybe it looked black on set.
Maybe it did, yeah.
Anyways, it's time for the Trivia Tier.
This is the trivia section of the show, as threatened.
So here are some names that were considered for the lead role.
Kevin Costner, Matthew Modine, Emilio Estevez, Bill Paxton,
Dennis Quaid, Kurt Russell, Michael Keaton, Alec Baldwin.
Hold on to that thought for next week.
Robin Williams, Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford, Ron Perlman, Michael J. Fox, Tom Hanks,
Richard Marks apparently turned it down, he claims.
The singer.
Yep.
That's what he said.
Wow.
Yeah.
And to answer your question as to which of those men could look like they could recognize a Walkman,
yes, yes, no, no, no, yes, no, yes.
Very good.
Yeah.
So apparently Johnny Depp, though, was Disney's favourite choice,
which sucks for him, I guess, that he didn't get this,
but he did go on, as we know,
to play a very big and famous Disney role, the Lone Ranger.
Mason.
Oh, no, we don't have to do the Lone Ranger.
No, Mason.
We're not doing it.
There's too many things in that that I just don't want to talk about. Okay. I had that thought. I to do the Lone Ranger No Mason We're not doing There's too many things in that
That I just don't want to talk about
Okay
I had that thought
I'm like the Lone Ranger
And the other day I'm like
Condor Man
Do we cover Condor Man
Yeah I don't know
I mean you know it when you see it
And I don't know if I see it
You know
Yeah
There's too many gadgets in his car
I think we might do like
I don't know where this is staying in
But like a Disney attempt
To start a Pirates-esque franchise.
So it would be like The Lone Ranger.
It would be Prince of Persia.
John Carter and Mars.
John Carter and Mars.
It would be Nicolas Cage is a sorcerer
and Jay Baruchel also wants to be a sorcerer.
I thought I was just a normal guy.
That's Jay Baruchel.
No, you're a sorcerer.
But I don't want to be a sorcerer.
This is a sorcerer movie.
Okay.
I like him.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do too.
This is actually James Horner's Disney music debut.
James Horner has passed, of course,
but you might know his music from Braveheart, Titanic, Avatar.
He was a big name.
Great score in this.
From the pulp stories of their era.
So in the comic book mason,
the original inventor of the rocket pack was 30s pulp novel hero Doc Savage, the man of bronze.
Why bronze?
What's that?
He just looks quite bronze.
Oh, it's not like I've the strength of bronze?
I'm as impenetrable.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm as impenetrable as bronze, whatever that is.
He's like Ozymandias.
You know, like he's the smartest guy in the world, but he's also the toughest guy.
And, you know, he's always.
Can catch a bullet, et cetera.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
They did a movie.
I don't think it's good.
Doc Savage.
Yeah.
They almost certainly did.
Yeah.
We'll know it when we see it, but we haven't.
However, because of licensing considerations, probably that movie, Mason,
Disney did not seek permission from Cond Nast, the copyright holder of Doc Savage,
and opted to substitute him for Howard Hughes, real life guy who went all sorts of crazy all at once.
He did it all.
He ran the gamut.
Yeah.
I'll design his rocket pack
and I won't even have it cover somebody's butt.
I'll do anything.
In the original graphic novel,
Cliff's Accord's girlfriend is named Betty Page,
not Jenny Blake.
Now, the reason for this is because Dan Stevens actually...
Dave Stevens.
Sorry.
It's because Dan Stevens...
Dave Stevens.
It's because...
Why is his name not Dan Stevens?
I don't know.
I guess it was taken by Dan Stevens.
Yeah.
So Dave Stevens, who created the comic,
he based the character Betty Page upon his real-life girlfriend,
1950s pin-up girl, Betty Page,
but she would not allow her name to be used in the
film yeah that's why it was changed a nice bit of rocketry via if that's what i called it in the
south sea club neville sinclair a nazi greets clark gable i don't know if you remember i do
yeah now clark gable it makes sense that he would be there because, you know, he is from this era. But a little known fact about Clark Gable was that Adolf Hitler was like his biggest fan.
Oh, no.
Right.
And so during World War II, Hitler actually offered a sizable reward to anybody who could capture Clark Gable.
Presumably to get him to perform like Tropic Thunder style.
Yeah, sure.
Because he was serving as an aerial gunner at the time.
So apparently quite a bit of resources went into that.
Wow.
Yeah.
Now that's like that time they found one of Osama Bin Laden's hard drive
and it was filled with anime.
Remember that?
Yeah.
What a weeb.
But in terms of sequels,
Disney at the time were looking for their version of Indiana Jones, right?
And they eventually found it in Indiana Jones.
Love that.
And now it's over.
Love that for them.
Yeah, now it's over. It's finished. Yeah's done yeah absolutely so they were like let's do a trilogy
but obviously the first one didn't do too well on a budget of 30 to 40 million dollars in the
US alone it made 46.7 million it was a bit of a flop Mason but of course it has had a bit of a
cult following and that has led to a number of rumors and steps towards a remake or a sequel there was going to be one based around the tuskegee airmen is that
correct yeah so first in 2016 there was a movie called the rocketeers where cliff sacord goes
missing and a second female rocketeer takes over and the kind it's about the search for him is that
the force awakens yes yes I was going to say.
Also, was the costume going to be exactly the same
except the helmet had a little pink bow on the top
to indicate that it was a girl?
Absolutely it was, yes.
Ms. Rocketeer?
I know people would say The Rocketeer goes woke.
What are they doing to The Rocketeer?
A movie that famously bombed and nobody saw.
They're ruining the legacy of The Rocketeer.
Anyway, that one didn't happen.
In August of 2021, though, the title,
The Return of the Rocketeer, was announced.
This is when Disney Plus was just like,
everybody gets everything, all right?
We're doing a Willow series.
We're doing a Spiderwick Chronicles series.
We're just rocketing into the stratosphere
we will never come down, ever.
That's right.
So the plot would have focused on a former Tusker G airman
who inherits the Rocket Pack uniform,
which would potentially start David Oyelowo.
Now, J.D. Dillard, who made the movie Devotion,
was slated to direct, but he decided to take a breather
from that kind of period in aviation.
Because, you know, he spent a lot of time doing that movie that nobody saw.
Also, James, did you know that on Disney+,
there is 22 episodes of what looks to be a 3D animated series.
From 2019, yep.
Sort of Paw Patrol style, just called The Rocketeer.
Yep.
And it's a girl rocketeer.
Yep.
So this series was for kids, obviously.
Billy Campbell actually returns to voice Cliff Secord.
Oh.
And it's his son Kit who takes on the mantle.
I see.
Of little rocketeer.
There you go. But he's also just called The Rocketeer. Where's his wife? What happened, who takes on the mantle. I see. Of Little Rocketeer. There you go.
But he's also just called the Rocketeer.
Where's his wife?
What happened to her?
Is she in?
She died.
Oh, man.
She crashed into the Hollywood side.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
She liked the Nazi guy.
Oh, no.
That was the twist, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
There's a prequel comic.
Wow.
Yeah.
My goodness.
Is it called The Cock Blocketeer?
Is that what it is?
That's what it's called.
I need to let you know, James,
that that was the first note I wrote for this movie,
having not re-watched the movie yet.
And I just needed to find a way to shoehorn it in there.
It's the perfect time.
Yeah, yeah.
I was thinking there's a scene where, like,
there's a scene in the restaurant,
and one of the guys is like,
oh, Cliff, you crashed your plane, blah, blah, blah.
And then Jenny gets real mad at him and I'm like,
oh, that guy's the cock blocker to you.
Yeah.
That would be it.
I was talking about a different scene in the restaurant
where he's coming over and he's the waiter and he's like,
I'm spilling stuff.
Oh, perfect.
I'm the cock blocker to you.
Then he would also be the cock blocker to you.
I love this.
Yes.
Yes, we both did one and that's important.
And some would say neither of them really worked,
so cut them out, but we're going to leave both in.
There'll be a poll below.
Yeah.
You can choose.
I'm happy with both of them.
Yeah, same.
It's a win-win for me.
Yeah.
Anyways, come back next week because we're going to be talking
about Alec Baldwin's The Shadow.
You know it when you see it, you know?
And I haven't seen that in, I don't know.
And if Alec Baldwin sees his shadow,
that means another six weeks of winter.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I haven't seen that in a very long time.
I remember being quite entertained by it.
You might just be remembering the knife,
the cranky little knife.
Yeah, the cranky little knife.
It's like, I'm going to get you.
I also read the novelisation.
Oh, wow.
Which is filled with all the extended The Shadow lore
that they chopped out in the movie and whatever
because it's too annoying and complicated.
I bet that is annoying and complicated to read.
But if you do want to say that early, you can.
That's right.
It's optional, but if you head to bigsandwich.co,
these videos always go up there early.
But it's not the only thing there.
We do movie commentaries.
Famously, recently, we did The Flash.
We talked over The Flash.
My God.
Talk about movies, you know?
Oh, yeah.
We do bonus podcasts.
We do movie commentaries.
Our podcast, The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows, that comes
out there a day early on Sunday as opposed to Monday if you do want to check it out.
That's right.
But, you know, you don't have to do any of that.
Just thank you for watching this. Final thoughts? You love it? I liked it. I liked it out. That's right. But, you know, you don't have to do any of that. Just thank you for watching this.
Final thoughts?
You love it?
I liked it.
I liked it too.
It's a throwback
because it was made
in like the 90s.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's also a throwback
from the era.
It's a double throwback.
It's a double throwback
and look,
some of it was a little clunky,
you're right.
Some of the effects
don't really hold up anymore
but I think overall
characters were good.
You know.
It's brisk.
Brisk action was solid.
It is very brisk.
It's that just wonderful time where you could just punch a fed and he would
punch you back and it's no big deal.
Yeah.
Just a great,
just a great year.
I wish I could go back to it.
You know,
wonderful.
That's it.
All right.
Thanks everybody for watching.
I also was better than Dick Tracy cause stuff actually happens.
Oh my God.
100% it was better than Dick Tracy.
Yeah.
Not a joke.
Just facts.
Yeah,
that's true. I was going to say
I don't like it, but it's true and I
do like it actually. Anyways, thanks
to Ben and Lawrence for the edit. We'll see you in the next one.
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