The Weekly Planet - X-Men Origins: Wolverine - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: July 4, 2024

With Hugh Jackman returning as Logan in Deadpool & Wolverine we've decided to take a look at the Wolverine Trilogy, starting with the first and the worst X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Acting also as t...he live action introduction of Deadpool it has all the ingredients of a great X-Men adventure and yet it falls down at almost every step it takes. Thanks for checking out of Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► Help support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/9qubm5z66pcHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From Yorgos Lanthimos, the Academy Award nominated director of Poor Things and The Favorite, comes Kinds of Kindness, a darkly hilarious and unpredictable film that critics are calling mind-bendingly brilliant. Featuring an all-star cast led by Emma Stone, Jesse Plemons, and Willem Defoe. Kinds of Kindness is a wild ride that will leave audiences discussing the experience long after it's over. Don't miss Kinds of Kindness now playing in select theaters. Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravan of Garbage where we're taking a look at the Wolverine trilogy of films! Yes! Has there ever been a series of movies where they get steadily better?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Like a trilogy that gets better? I don't know. It's a real reversal of fortune isn't it? I, most franchises you wouldn't give them this opportunity. If they release this, like, apropos of nothing, just out of the blue, no. You don't get another one, bloodshot. Whoa. You know, in the era in which we currently exist, if Netflix released a first movie like this, they wouldn't do two more. They might do two more. They might do one more if they filmed two at the same time, Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I'm thinking about Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon, aren't I? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, leave a like because we're of course talking about X-Men Origins Wolverine. That's right. The first in what was supposed to be a series of X-Men prequel origin movies. This was the big one. This is the first one that's going to kick off the whole era, single character origin movies. This was the big one. This is the first one that was gonna kick off the whole era, single character origin movies. To some degree, we got it in another form. We got X-Men First Class, which gave us the origins of Magneto and Professor X.
Starting point is 00:01:36 We sort of got, subsequently, we've gotten very small origins for characters multiple times. We've had Cyclops's origin two or three times, I guess to some degree. I mean, we get some of it in this. True. He was in a jail and a school and then he ran away. Then he ran to a helicopter. He's a tortured soul. The true indignity of having to write out a hundred lines as a high school student in your mid to late 20s. You know? Oh my God. But anyway, I've got some notes here. Sometimes I write notes, sometimes I don't write notes.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Sometimes I lose my notes, but then I find them because this one says, I searched for, I can't believe I have to watch this again. That's my first note of this. Is that because we've done a movie commentary for it already? And we've watched it in our own private time. That's true.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And we've probably talked about it on our podcast, The Weekly Planet. We've talked about who's the best and worst superhero man, who's the best and worst X-Men movies, here is what's talking about the x-men chronology? Let's talk about the timeline. What's canonical? What's not a better trilogy where the trilogy gets better? I'm sick to death of a chance I'm like a man on his deathbed slowly realizing that he's seen the faces of his co-workers more than the faces of his children but in this case my co-workers is the movie X-Men Origins Wolverine and my children is all my cool jackets that I can't wear currently because I'm in this little room.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You're not wrong. You can bring your jackets. I could wear a cool jacket, couldn't I? So the way this happened was during the filming of X-Men 2, they went, oh, there's a bit of X-Men Origins Wolverine in this because you see the facility, he has some flashbacks, you know, you visit it, he has a big punch up with a lady Wolverine, lady because you see the facility has some flashbacks, you know, you visited he has a big punch-up with a With a lady Wolverine lady strike striker strike force. No, none of those. What's her name? Lady Deathstroke. And um
Starting point is 00:03:13 I'm gonna let that one slide Tell him how wrong he is in the comments folks. I was gonna say you'll let that slide but nobody else will. That's right So the initial idea was let's tell a story set in Japan before the X-Men movies and we'll do like the Silver Samurai And a love interest and all of that if that sounds familiar. That's the next movie. The studio said no No, let's take it right back. Yes to bone claws So Hugh Jackman's production company seed productions got on board for this also They've done two movies this and the movie deception, which is also apparently a bad movie I haven't seen it according to David Benioff who wrote this or one of the one of the guys one of the Game of Thrones guys
Starting point is 00:03:50 One of the GeoTibros. Yeah. Yeah, I mean this also happened during the writer's strike So a lot of this was thrown out the original script was influenced by the Wolverine scented comics Wolverine scented Yeah, what do you think? What do you think he? Sweat I mean sweat obviously. Yeah the woods. Yeah young Wolverine-centered? Yeah. What do you think he... What do you think he... Sweat? I mean sweat, obviously, yeah. The woods? Yeah. Young Wolverine though, probably like potpourri?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Oh yeah, he would, wouldn't he? Yeah, because he's a fancy lad. Well yeah. So it was the Wolverine comics from 1982, Weapon X from 1991, and the origin Wolverine comic from 2001. Gavin Hood of course directed this. You say of course, like anybody remembers. Of course.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I had to look it up. He was hand-picked by Hugh Jackman, but he was battling with executives the entire time. of course directed this. You say of course like anybody remembers. Of course. I had to look it up. He was hand picked by Hugh Jackman but he was battling with executives the entire time. One of the most famous stories was that an executive by the name of Tom Rothman had a set repainted from darker to lighter because he didn't like it. Richard Donner had to get flown out. His wife Lauren Shuler Donner produced this. Richard Donner directed the first two ish Superman movies
Starting point is 00:04:46 It's all story we've talked about them. So he was floating to like ease tensions. It was a nightmare Hey everybody shut up. I directed Superman and everybody shut up and settle down go to your corners. It's me Richard Donna back back Settle easy Hugh Jackman easy executives easy Apparently Hugh Jackman very nice guy on set. Everybody loves him. Everybody talks fondly of him. How do you feel though about explaining Wolverine's origin?
Starting point is 00:05:12 And not just here, but in the comics also. I've never liked it. Yeah? I like the idea that he's a man with a mysterious past. He exists now and we see snippets of his past and some of it. Snickers. Oh, Snickers. No.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yum, yum, yum. Yum, yum, yum, peanuts protein. They are good, I like them. Yeah, that's one of my faves. Yeah, yeah. Mars bar too much. Had a Mars bar recently, I'm like, oh, that's too sugary.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Ooh. Ooh. This is a man who's also, I should point out, this will go to the extended, is drinking a giant Monster Energy juice. I'm drinking a monster juice. I'm drinking a mango loco. And as I said, the healthiest and most organic thing in that is the can. It's got the caffeine of five coffees. I've had two sips of it and I am off my rocker.
Starting point is 00:05:57 It's going to give you the strength of half a man in about 20 minutes. It's my weapon X. Anyway, I prefer the idea that he's here now and we don't know what happened. He's got fragments of memories and we don't know what's real and what has been manufactured by the Weapon X program and et cetera. And then, you know-
Starting point is 00:06:17 You don't need to know he's a fancy little boy. No, throughout the 80s and the 90s in X-Men comic books and in his own solo series, we got little bits of it. To me that was interesting and again I kind of feel like, and I've said this before but I kind of feel like there is no origin that the actual comic book creators can give us or the movie producers can give us that is as interesting and intriguing as we can imagine for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:06:41 As nothing. As nothing, exactly, that's right. You know? You know, we know he was part of the Weapon X program and he was part of like a secret strike force. There's that imagery where he's wearing like the computer on his head and he's got all the cords and whatever. That's all you need.
Starting point is 00:06:56 We've connected his brain directly to a virtual boy. He walked into a wall. I think we're on the right track. That's right, and we know he was in World War II and maybe he met Captain America and that's kind of intriguing and interesting. And I think that's enough? I think maybe that's enough. Although, that being said, I think the opening montage of this movie is very good. Oh my god, it's amazing. It makes you think this might be a good movie for a second. I'll tell you what, and you may have this information information here But people may not remember this movie was leaked and incomplete
Starting point is 00:07:26 Oh, yeah This movie was leaked several months before release and it came out on the internet and I remember I acquired a copy this probably through Hugh Jackman sent it to us. Yeah Hugh Jackman sent it to us. It was all above board No, I think you probably sent me a copy and no no I I never saw the work print of this Try to implicate me in your crimes. Alright, fine then, and I got it. I purchased a burnt DVD out of a car boot. Anyway, I watched the opening montage of this.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It still had incomplete visual effects and etc. But I remember watching this at the time and going, this is so incredible. I am not going to watch the rest of this. I'm going to wait and I'm going to spend ticket money at the box office and I'm gonna watch this in cinemas in a few months time as it is meant to be seen because I have faith that based on this montage that this is gonna be a really good movie. And it isn't!
Starting point is 00:08:14 No, it's a dreadful movie. And you know what I think one of the problems with it is? It's supposed to explore the psychology of Logan, like is he an animal, is he a man? Like how did he become this way? But he's just a bloke who's angry sometimes. Like who cares? All the behind the scenes stuff is like we want to see the evolution of how he becomes the guy that shows up in the first X-Men. But even though he like lost all these memories and gets the claws, like he's had physical changes, his personality is identical. He's exactly the
Starting point is 00:08:43 same. He doesn't go on a journey. He doesn't go on a journey or an arc. The journey I guess for him is he was tricked for a bit. Yep, that's right. His friend, he had a friend, he was a good friend for a hundred years and then... He was his brother, maybe. He's maybe his brother and then his friend, um... His friend went a little too far. What I did, one thing... He took too long to figure out he went too far.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Like decades of him murdering innocent people and being like, hey, don't do that. Took him to Vietnam, took him right up to Vietnam to figure it out. That's right. Come on, man. Well, you've been killing everybody. You've been killing people on their side,
Starting point is 00:09:17 you've been killing people on our side. You're just swinging wildly and going, woo, I love murder. And you know, after about 50, 60 years of that, I'm starting to question your motives, Saber2. Another note that I had about the opening montage that I'd not thought about until now is, do you wonder how much paperwork it would have taken to get them assigned to the same platoon every time?
Starting point is 00:09:37 For like a hundred years? Yeah, yeah, that's hard work, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Hey, I'd like to sign up to fight in Vietnam. You have to bring my friend as well. He's my brother, I think. We've got to be on the same team the whole time. We've got to fight back to back. That's right. Yeah. I'm here to stop him killing indiscriminately. Yes, he is going to do that. Yes, we will take this gun and bayonet. Yes. And the thing about Logan is he doesn't make any decisions that
Starting point is 00:10:03 are deemed questionable. There's no gray area in him I mean he kills his dad. He kills his fake. No, he kills his real dad, doesn't he? But he does it by accident after he kills his dad. His personality is established. Great choice on fake dad, by the way But it's an Australian actor whose name I'm gonna get Ryan something Brian Peter O'Brien. It's probably Peter O'Brien He looks like a Peter O'Brien. It's probably Peter O'Brien. He looks like a Peter O'Brien, doesn't he? Oh does he, yeah. Oh great choice. I know him best from the Alexei Sale sketch, Psycho Ward 11.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah? There'll be no clips of that available. No? But here it is. It is Peter O'Brien. Terrific, I love him. So Sabretooth, he was offered a muscle suit, Lief Schreiber. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Much like... But instead he was like, I'll just keep my shirt on the whole time. He's got some muscles. Yeah. Because the juggernaut from the previous movie, Vinnie Jones, wore a muscle suit and he's like, that's humiliating. I'll just work out a little bit. I like his casting. He does some good killing. There's a moment where he grabs Will.i.am's spine. He's trying to teleport. I like that.
Starting point is 00:11:00 He improved that on the day. Did he? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there's all sorts of minor mutant characters showing up There's Kevin Durand as blob. There's William. I am as Kestrel. There's Dominic Monaghan as Chris Bradley Great just just beautiful stuff I like how he transitioned from like special forces guy to just a guy working at a carnival. Do you appreciate his jacket? Yes, all right. Yeah, so there's a jacket guy, you'd appreciate his jacket.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I mean, I guess you don't like all jackets. Is that what you're doing? Well, yeah, but I mean, you know, you'd think you'd be happier. You got to retire and spend more time with his jacket. Yeah, yeah. He's got a girlfriend who tells a really long story about the moon.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah, that's Silver Fox. Yeah, fascinating stuff. And of course, Taylor Kitsch is in this as Remy Labieu. I forgot he was in this. I forgot he was in it as much as he's in it. I have a note here that says I had honestly forgotten that Gambit canonically exists in the Fox X-Men universe to the extent anyone is canonical in the Fox X-Men universe. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Where do you go after this? Who knows? Nobody knows. But his stuff and the stuff with the blob feels very video gamey. You're not getting past me, I'm not telling you the information until you beat me up. I have an idea that says at about the hour mark of this movie, it just becomes a series of fetch quests and comical misunderstandings. Like, oh, he said bub but you thought he said blob, you better fight.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Oh, Wolverine has dog tags so he's probably exactly the same guy as that other guy you know who has dog tags who kidnapped you and experiment on you better fight. Better fight. Stupid. It is stupid. It's stupid It's a stupid movie. It's a stupid movie. I don't like it. My sir. Yeah, the effects are bad It's not just the claws the claws are atrocious in this now the bone claws are fine Yeah, but I think they're mostly real though Yeah But the idea being I think that when they're new and shiny But he gets new he gets his new adamantium claws and so they're fresh and shiny. Yeah, they look
Starting point is 00:12:50 Well, it awful you see them like the practical ones like on set for the behind-the-scenes stuff and they don't look that much better They're way too shiny and way too smooth But there's other stuff like there's a part where saber-tooth throws Wolverine into a car, it looks really bad. There's a moment where Sabretooth scratches the hood of a car, Gavin Hood, that looks really bad. There's a bunch of half finished or just not very good special effects in this that I do not care for. And of course there's Deadpool. There is a cool truck flip though. I think there's a moment where there's a moment where Wolverine he cuts down the side of a home He flips it towards a helicopter. I thought that looked pretty good and then the explosion happens
Starting point is 00:13:29 Oh, he doesn't look at it because he's so cool doesn't need to look at it. He's seen an explosion before There's also some really bad ADR where agent zero taunts him before Wolverine kills him and it's just yeah, it's no good Yeah, they changed that Wolverine was supposed to just stab him but they're like, well this has to be PG-13 So he'll light him on fire and have a big explosion. Yeah, nice. It's really good. Yeah, but Deadpool So Ryan Reynolds was told because he had already signed up for a Deadpool movie or role that listen We're gonna do this with or without you and how we're gonna you too. Yeah. Yes Again during the writer's strike. We'll make Deadpool with or without you.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Good song? Yep. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was also during the writer's strike, so Ryan Reynolds has said that he showed up on the day and the script said Deadpool was there and he talks fast. So all that's written and improved by him. Also, Wade has got his
Starting point is 00:14:24 Two Guys a Girl and a pizza place improv skills. He knows what he's doing. He's a comedic man. No, he said, oh, people are going to go nuts over this, this version of Deadpool. And the executives were like, yeah. And he was like, no, you've misread the way I said that. Maybe my inflection was wrong. People are going to go nuts because this is bad.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I'm employing my trademark two guys and a girl and a pizza place sarcasm there. I said people are going to go nuts over it. Why would they do it like this though? Way to play to none of his strengths at all. The studio really thought they were doing something with this and the diamond eyes, I saw it behind the scenes thing it's like well you know. From Yorgos Lentimos, the Academy Award nominated director of Poor Things and the favorite comes kinds of kindness a darkly hilarious and unpredictable film that critics are calling mind bending Lee brilliant featuring an all star cast led by Emma Stone Jesse Plemons and Willem Dafoe kinds of kindness is a wild ride that will leave audiences discussing the experience long after it's over. Don't miss Kinds of Kindness, now playing in select theaters. The diamond eyes, the dead...
Starting point is 00:15:33 Because I think they went, okay, we're collecting mutant DNA for the pool, the Deadpool. I get it now. I think the executives thought, well, that'll be really clever and people like that that we've worked backwards Yeah, I think they are wrong because they're always wrong I think it's really good actually that they thought about it a little bit and also the way is controlled It's like one of those old The text command video game I have a note here It just says terrible UI design and the control device for Deadpool
Starting point is 00:16:02 So you have to type out decapitate if you want him to decapitate a guy. D-E-C-A-P-I? What if you're in a hurry and you do a time vote? Get your IT guy to make a decapitate button. Hotkey. Or make it F7. Or do it like like 1990s point-and-click adventure style. Use big sword on Wolverine. I don't understand. Nonsense. Terrible. Also, if you have a flawless mind control chip that you can install in somebody. I want it.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Maybe put it in Wolverine. Yeah. Or maybe just talk about him in another room where he can't hear you planning to betray him. Were they in the room? Yeah. Oh, this worked, but he's asleep, which is bad. We should kill him. What are we doing? Oh, he's awake. Let's erase the memory of his girlfriend. Let's do that. Yeah, he'll be cool with that
Starting point is 00:16:49 He will be cool. Hey man, are you cool with that? You cool with that? He's mad now. Why's he mad? He's running around He's running around his dude. I thought I as a Weapon X executive would would Have his number, but I don't he's mad at me. It's almost like I'm dumb. I'm an executive who's dumb. I don't get it. Oh, one of my notes just says nude Jackman. Nude Jackman, pretty good, yeah. That's a good rhyme. One of my notes just says,
Starting point is 00:17:13 lessons learned from a kindly old couple at least half a century younger than you. Oh yeah. I think they wanted a Mar and Pa Kent. They wanted an Aunt May. Well, there's somebody special. We can talk about it in trivia. Are they?
Starting point is 00:17:24 It's so exciting. I can't even wait to tell you. We'll all have to wait for it, Mason. But then how do we explain how he never interacts with them ever again? Ah, let's have him get mown down by a sniper. Big explosions, too. I think also the action just isn't really great.
Starting point is 00:17:39 A lot of really obvious wire work. Agent Zero, I guess, is the fun idea that's kind of executed poorly. Deadpool like cutting up bullets is nothing when he's Wade Wilson. I just don't, I can't with any of this. The stuff on top of the big smoke stack or whatever it is, that's not bad. They're fighting back to back and he's teleporting in and out. I like that idea, but again, it's a bit too late in the game. And the ending, it's weird that after everything exploded and Wolverine was like, I'm leaving, Stryker's like, now's the time to attack. You should leave, man.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I have a logistical question. And look, it's probably negated by the fact that X-Men continuity is all over the place and it ultimately does not matter. But I mean, if nowhere else, this is the place to really lock this down. So Stryker can't kill Wolverine, but he can wreck his memories like scrambling an egg. So how he does this is he shoots him twice in the head with adamantium bullets. Now my question is, does Logan then have two permanent bullet holes in his skull? Would you like incapacitate him doing like a three stooges eye poke? You just stick your... Through his eyeballs?
Starting point is 00:18:51 No, you just stick him through the holes in his skull. He's got two forehead holes. You could just poke him in there. I assume the bullets were lodged. Oh, no, they have to go through to his brain. So they're just rattling around in his brain. That's, I mean, they're either permanently lodged in his brain or did they come out the other side? So he's got four permanent bullet holes in his skull. He does whistle when he runs. I fear it. Somebody must know. Somebody on the production
Starting point is 00:19:14 side. You'd think so. I don't think they've ever thought about this. No, absolutely not. Because like, how would the adamantium heal over his skull? You know what I mean? It's a good question. It's a great question. Sorry, you're right. It's a great question. It's a great question. Yeah. What else do you have in terms of notes? That's it. Professor X is in this as well. He shows up looking like a cartoon and then all the X-Men kids run towards the cartoon helicopter and on the most on a dreadful looking green screen. Oh, yeah. Don't even put that in. You see Professor X, you cut back to the students and you just say, oh, they're safe.
Starting point is 00:19:43 They're with Professor X. Who can walk? What year is this set? Is this before or after the flashback in X-Men 3? This is sort of set in the 80s, right? It's sort of set in the 80s. Because the original X-Men movies, like the 2000 X-Men movies, they're set in the near future. They start in like 2005-ish. Right. So this movie is set maybe in the 80s?
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. But I mean in the X-Men first class continuity. Oh yeah, we get past that. That's the 60s. So in, but then there's an X-Men movie where they revisit Weapon X and Wolverine is in there. And I know the timeline has been scrambled like an adamantium brain.
Starting point is 00:20:17 But does that mean they recaptured him and put him in the facility with, and put the computer on him? Or is that- This time we've connected his brain directly to a Nintendo DS. Oh no wait he was captured in Days of Future Past at the end or something. Well...
Starting point is 00:20:31 Or he wasn't? I don't know. God it's... It also, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter yeah. We also got a post credit scene in this, but we got a different post credit scene in Australia if you recall correctly. Oh yeah right.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Yeah so we didn't get the decapitated head pool moment. We got Wolverine drinking in Japan and he goes, I don't have any memories. We got the shitty one. I mean they're both not great but. The only thing I remember is I love the taste of Foster's beer. I guess the implication being that the next one will be set in Japan and it is but it's not a direct sequel to this Decades later. Yeah, and if I recall the post credit sequence of the next one post It has another kind of narrative thread that is carried over
Starting point is 00:21:16 Into the next X-Men movie, but not really again. There's the weird Decade break or yeah decades break. Yeah, get to it. We'll get to it next week. I hope absolutely Anyways, it's time for our regularly occurring segment. It happens every week. It's called thoughts and prizes doesn't happen every way It's the return of thoughts and prizes Mason This is an opportunity for you Mason and the watchers and listeners of this video to hear some of my thoughts and win Fantastic prizes. What are the prizes? What do you mean? What are the prizes? The prizes will be revealed when you win. Interesting. We've been through this. We go through it every week. Yeah, but I'm trying to get through your defenses here. Like this is a hole. It doesn't feel like a scam. Yeah. It's something though, isn't it? Oh, it's something. Just
Starting point is 00:21:58 like the prizes. They're real and there's something. Yeah. Here's some of my thoughts. When all the logs rolled on Wolverine. I said out loud Logan Nice, that's good. That's actually a good thought. Yes. Does that get me any closer to prizes? Ooh Saying your thoughts are good. That hasn't hurt it. I'll tell you that much. Okay. All right I liked the bit where he does his little nudie run across the farm. That was fun. Nude Jackman That's probably where that note comes from. Yeah Do you think he did a full nude or do you think he did like now? They do they do the flesh covered sock or whatever that's generally what they do. That's gross. Where do they get the flesh from?
Starting point is 00:22:31 That's not part of my thought surprises. I don't know that I don't have that information Okay Now I did have an answer before when you were like, does he have adamantium stuff rattling around in his brain, etc We see an x-ray of his skeleton an x his skeleton in the first X-Men movie and there's no holes in it. So I'm assuming they're just lodged in there. I don't know though. That would mean if you tap the back of his head hard enough they would pop out. They might fall out, yeah. There's a moment where Stryker... You do that prank on him and you put the coin, push the coin on his head and he keeps tapping
Starting point is 00:23:01 and then two bullets come out. You'd be like, Christ on a bike. When Wolverine becomes a lumberjack, Striker turns up and goes, you have an age to date. It's been six years, man. You all look exactly the same. Weird thing to say. I think Striker at the end would need a bath because it would feel good on his feet would feel much better. Can you imagine having a bath after that? Like a nice warm bath? I reckon it'd sting a bit. It would sting initially, but you put some Epsom salts in there. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:23:30 That'd be alright. Also, this needs to be mentioned. The game is good that this is based on. Oh, yeah. The game that is based on this movie is good. It's a good game. It's kind of God of War-esque. We've done a video on it on this channel, but yeah, it's worth playing if you want a better version of this movie. Let me have a look. it on this channel, but yeah, it's worth playing if you want a better version of this movie. Let me have a look. No, no prizes, sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Interesting. Yeah. God, you're having a bad run, aren't you? I think I'm having a pretty good run. I mean, if you had a good run, you would have won a prize. Okay. It doesn't normally take this long for somebody to win a prize. Something must be wrong with this.
Starting point is 00:24:00 No, I'm just looking at the system and everything seems to be in order. There's a system, okay. We're developing some clues here. Okay. No, I'm just looking at the system and everything seems to be in order. I'd watch it. Yeah. We're developing some clues here. Okay. The clues, it's all very transparent. Yeah, you get it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You get it. Anyway, it's time for X-Men Origins Trivia. Trivia, origins, X, whatever. Scott Adkins. Trivarine? What? Trivarine. Trivarine.
Starting point is 00:24:24 We could use that for next week. Okay, great. Make a note. Somebody makeorene. We could use that for next week. Okay, great. Make a note. Somebody make a note. Put it in the comments. Remember to say Trivorene next time. Scott Adkins doubles for Deadpool in the climax
Starting point is 00:24:34 because Ryan Reynolds was busy working on another movie. Oh, Scott Adkins, he's a stunt performer. He's an actor as well. He's been a, I think it was Ben Affleck's Batman stunt. He's the big boy. He's the big boy in John Wick 4. He is a big boy. Yeah The close-ups of Ryan Reynolds are filmed like of his face and whatever and everything else is not him
Starting point is 00:24:51 Are the old couple that Logan befriends their names are Travis and Heather Hudson They are the civilian names of guardian alpha flight indicator. That's right The leaders of the Canadian superhero group alpha Flight. I mean, not anymore. No, they're... Also, you'd think they'd see him and go, Oh, you've got superpowers like us. I know you do. We're an Alpha Flight.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And we've been on the same team, maybe? Yeah. Yeah. You'd think that. Yeah. It's just a fun reference that nobody got. Including you. That's great.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Despite knowing... They don't say their names. Well, exactly. So why do it? What's the point? To kill him. To upset people. Wolverine's log cabin in the wilderness was constructed on a hillside in New Zealand. Unfortunately because of the very noisy and high winds the set had to be dismantled and rebuilt in studio. Just a big waste of money that is, good for you. Logan gets his signature jacket. Oh hell yeah. From the old man in the bar.
Starting point is 00:25:46 He's, but, but, he's in Alpha Flight. However, he leaves it in Gambit's plane before the film's climax. How's he gonna back for X-Men 1 then? Well, director Gavin Hood suggests that he would later have another run in with Gambit and he would give him his jacket. You'd be like, oh, you left your jacket.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And he'd go, what jacket? Oh, we, you've lost your memories, but we've did an adventure. Yeah, you got this. You told me you got this from two members of Alpha Flight, but they were old and they'd never been superheroes and they got shot in the head. No, not doing a superhero thing, just in a barn.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Also, I love the fact that the director had to answer that question. That question was presented to him and he had to go, I have, I can't just go- Gambit held onto it. Yeah, I can't just go, I don't care. And you shouldn't carry that. You've wasted your life person asking this question.
Starting point is 00:26:31 The first person that Wolverine would have remembered is Gambit, because that's when he came to, he sees Gambit, Gambit's like, let's go. Chris Hemsworth and Alden Einreich auditioned for the part of Remy Labio slash Gambit. Like as in two guys in a trench coat? Yeah, they did it together. Well, they would have worn the signature Gambit trench coat.
Starting point is 00:26:48 You'd hope so, wouldn't you? And Hugh Jackman earned $25 million for this movie and he did a big workout. That's been nice. Here's some footage of him working out. On top of his piles of money? Yeah, that's right. He was lifting it all, lifting it all up. Now in terms of box office, it had a budget of $150 million and the return was $373.1.
Starting point is 00:27:10 But of course, as mentioned, a bootleg copy of this movie was leaked online before release. It had no watermark, it had unfinished alternate visual effects and different font in the credits. Oh boy. I know. It was downloaded about 4.5 million times. People say that it did contribute to this not having as high a box office as X-Men 3, but this still did very well,
Starting point is 00:27:31 regardless of it being a bad movie and it was leaked. Also, if you want to know the full story of that, I've done a video on it. Oh. It's called the time X-Men Origins Wolverine was stolen. It's a vast- Oh, how'd you come up with that? No, how'd you come up with that?
Starting point is 00:27:43 No. It's the first thing I thought of. How'd you come up with that name? It's the first thing I thought of. Oh, you answered it. Okay, that's actually a good idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it explains- It explains in the title.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It explains in the title. It's very self-explanatory. It's a fascinating story. I mean, a guy goes to jail for it. Oh God, is it me? Yeah, it will be you. The trial's coming up. There's a guy who worked at Fox,
Starting point is 00:28:01 and 20th Century Fox, of course, made this movie, who did a review of it- Oh yeah, that's right. Before it came out and went it was easy I downloaded online and he got fired it's a whole thing and anyway you're able to trace the source back to how it happened and it's all in that video. Was Hugh Jackman the whole time? Partially yes. Oh no! Yeah anyways. He should be in prison. Hugh Jackman? Yeah. Great. Hugh Jackman. Or he should be in a museum next to Ned Kelly's armor and Firelark's heart because he's our hero.
Starting point is 00:28:33 He is. I feel like Hugh Jackman going to prison would be like the time Paddington went to prison. Like he'd change the whole vibe of it. Yeah, that's right. They'd put on a show. They would. Anyways, if you enjoy these videos, you can enjoy them early., if you enjoy these videos you can enjoy them early. You can enjoy them.
Starting point is 00:28:46 But you can enjoy them early at BigSandwich.co. Of course we're going to be talking about the Wolverine and then Logan over the next few weeks. Those videos always go up there early but in addition to that we do video game let's plays. We recently did one on the X-Men arcade game. We do movie commentaries. We've got one coming up on the original X-Men, but
Starting point is 00:29:05 we've also done a bunch of other X-Men movie commentaries on there. We do a comic book club. That's right. Recently, we looked at Old Man Logan. Oooh. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, Mason. That's right. There's so many content there.
Starting point is 00:29:18 There's so many content. It's crazy over there. It's nine bucks a month. It helps support this, keeps it all ad free in terms of, you know, sponsors, etc. Now Logan, obviously very well regarded. It's nine bucks a month that helps support this keeps it all ad-free in terms of you know sponsors etc. Now Logan obviously very well regarded. It's a classic. Yeah. The Wolverine I remember enjoying. Me too. When it came out but I haven't watched it since it came out. I like the bit where the silver samurai suit opens up and he goes I'm an old man I want to be young give me your bones. That's right. That's what I remember. I'm gonna stick this thing in your bones. I'm gonna get all your bone juice out. It'll be my bone juice.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah, man. And I'll be young again. Woo! Yeah, anyways, thank you to Lawrence for the edit. Thank you, Lawrence. And we'll see you all on the next one. Grab that jammy, guys, we'll see you next week. Oh, we have a podcast, Weekly Planet.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I mentioned it earlier. Don't worry about it then. This one, make the cut. Great.

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