The Worst Idea Of All Time - 06: Timbo's Fish n Chips

Episode Date: September 16, 2020

Emmanuelle (as played by Sylvia) is replaced by a new Emmanuelle! Same mind in the body of a twenty year old virgin. Meanwhile, Brazil sure looks nice and travel anywhere looks amazing! Remember watch...ing people give each other cunnilingus while a samba class rages on next door? Good times. Tim likes calling body parts privates and can't stop thinking about the Matrix, and Guy sets up a body swap fantasy for Tim, in which he takes himself to Rarotonga to set up a fish and chip shop that is just doing okay. Lessons from this film: Two directors is probably too many. Three dimensions is probably too many. Crumb your fish while you've got the ingredients.JOIN US ON FACEBOOK: facebook.com/WorstIdeaOfAllTimeVISIT THE LITTLE EMPIRE PODCAST NETWORK: littleempirepodcasts.comMUSIC CREDIT: Tender Moonlight (facebook.com/TenderMoonlight)ART CREDIT: Tomas Cottle (sick-days.com)  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer everybody ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately borderlands now playing Hello and welcome to the episode where we watched Emmanuel 4 on the West Idea of All Time. Maybe this is like episode 7? I don't know. It took us a while to get this one nailed down. It's important that it's confusing. We did not manage to watch all of these films sequentially. And I would like to give a huge shout out to someone who enabled this to happen at least for me tim i think you found a file elsewhere but we shared a subtitle track thanks to the great austin lugar so thank you austin and thank you to the great people at opensubtitles.org a uh fantastic collection of people that are just doing god's work that's
Starting point is 00:01:23 right they really top and tail that production with how you can use their subtitles and where you can find them and and how to support them as well to remove all ads and mentions of them and you should i gotta tell you didn't they do a good job no actually do you know what let's flick them some court we will i'm going to support them as soon as we stop recording i'm going to go to open subtitles soon as we stop recording, I'm going to go to opensubtitles.org. I'm pretty sure I've got the URL right. And actually, I'm doing it right now as I'm talking to you guys. Bloody good. Well, I'll set up the context for Emmanuel 4.
Starting point is 00:01:52 The most, I don't know if open-minded is the right turn of phrase, but certainly experimental of the Emmanuel film so far, including those that have come since the departure of the titular Emmanuel, aka Sylvia Christel. This is her last film as the co-lead in the franchise. It was quite good fun.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I felt like the bottom fell out a little at the end, but this is a remarkably high-concept version of Emmanuel. high concept version of emmanuel it is uh sort of like an inverse eternal sunshine of the spotless mind i thought essentially what happens is that the setup emmanuel is going to some sort of what looks like a sort of early 2000s music video by um who's the band who sang stacy's mum fountains of wane yeah that's right can i just interrupt you for one second sorry to interrupt you on open subtitles.org uh the the website looks like it's probably breaking my computer as i speak and uh when i clicked on the link to uh the only place i can find to throw money at them which has
Starting point is 00:03:04 become a vip, remove the ads it immediately takes you to a series of pop-up ads yeah, that's great, click through Tim, this is a pick a path I love it when my computer offers me new opportunities to find websites I didn't even know existed
Starting point is 00:03:20 well, apparently I've just won a Samsung S9 thanks to Spark courtesy of Newaland's number one telecommunications providers maybe i should pursue that absolutely the s9 is a very recent piece of technology and that is definitely a legitimate prize now i'm so sorry we're talking about the cool ass music video-esque uh yeah so it's it's i mean it's you know that that you look and feel is somewhat unique but it's still pretty um down the line emmanuel so far but then she runs into
Starting point is 00:03:52 this former lover who it's expected we know called mark who in my research i found has not appeared in any of the previous emmanuels are you serious because i figured it would have to have been the guy from the first movie who like introduces her to almost the notion of sex itself uh possibly in name but not in actor portraying yeah but in the same way that we've got a new emmanuel which they do actually explain with the story we've got a new mark which they do not explain with the story yeah anyway she sees mark and she's like fresh prince where they replaced aunt viv it's one of those don't mention it i did well i was trying not to god damn it uh anyway she sees this guy at a sort of naval themed cocktail party perhaps they're genuine naval officers perhaps they're just people who like to dress as naval officers
Starting point is 00:04:41 and it sends her to a spiral and she says oh whoa even in all my adventures over the last years i'm not ready to confront this lost love you know i carry the emotional burden of what happened between us she still obviously holds a candle that burns bright and long for mark and so to try and remedy this overwhelming drive like she's essentially out of control whenever she sees mark she gets on a plane and flies to brazil where she undergoes plastic surgery to render herself unidentifiable to mark so it's quite experimental as well it's important to know that this surgery is not your run-of-the-mill rhinoplasty no boob job or something this is she she she gets warned that it's quite experimental and could have some psychological um effects to it and she says
Starting point is 00:05:32 play on player let's do this thing and then flash forward um she is covered in a sort of milky membrane which she emerges from it's like i got i've i have flat feet and so i once got orthotics made up and they put your feet in this sort of plaster cast and that looked like essentially the technology they used to perform a full body and face plastic surgery on emmanuel yeah it reminded me of the matrix a lot like lots of bits in this movie reminded me of the matrix because she kind of comes out emerges out of this cocoon and there's a couple of surgeons and nurses that are around and they're like stop emmanuel you can't walk yet like just go slow yeah you've got to relearn how to use your entire body because she has been reborn as a 20-year-old virgin now. Also, the surgeon who was like, for the last three movies,
Starting point is 00:06:29 all we've heard about is how fucking red-hot Emmanuelle is. Everyone's like, oh my God, Emmanuelle. She oozes sexuality. The most beautiful person on earth. And the surgeon performs the surgery and then he looks at her and he goes, out of a simple woman, I have made a goddess. And I'm like, do your research, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:47 This is the goddess. You've just, you know, I don't know. You've defied science, sure. I'll give you that, crazy professor. You've defied science, but you were starting with a pretty hot lady. So I just found, like, I'd like to talk about this with you, sort of the psychological impact of course it's going to be a psychological impact on anyone who undergoes any significant
Starting point is 00:07:08 plastic surgery i imagine as you sort of you know like even if you're mentally prepared for it and you're undergoing this voluntarily you're going to be looking at a different version of yourself you're going to be you know living with this but in this instance where it's the full body escaping some sort of emotional baggage that she carries around with herself, to keep your temporal memories, to keep your entire consciousness and totally change the physical vessel in which you carry those is a really interesting idea. I want to know if you were to undergo that what do you think the psychological impact would be if you're like if you don't escape this podcast say if you and i we have this on again off again podcasting relationship and you say when i see him i know i can't help myself i want to get on those mics i want to watch something terrible the only escape
Starting point is 00:07:59 i have the only reprieve i have is to totally change the vessel in which i carry my brain and so you do it and you come out of it as you don't have to be a 20 year old virgin. You can just be a different looking person. I want to be a 20 year old virgin. I want you to. Okay. Yeah, great. You can be a 20 year old virgin, an entirely different prospect.
Starting point is 00:08:19 What like when you, when you are moving around in this body and you're seeing people from your past, emmanuel is not tethered to a family life beyond her romantic interests we're never introduced to siblings parents cousins aunties uncles like you know i want to meet emmanuel's brother-in-law what's that guy like she's got a brother-in-law absolutely her younger sister's husband he's a good guy he's a baker gets up very early in the morning and makes bread every day if i was if i was emmanuel's brother-in-law i would be on high alert because this is a woman who's not afraid to fuck anyone yeah but he's except for mark he's all good is the thing about the brother and yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:09:06 jeremy he's like he's just like i'm just a i'm a baker and i'm happily married and like i'm good here i don't need to fuck this woman who as i told you in the notes it's got to be said all the evidence is laid out that this woman has got to be absolutely you know filled to the brim with sexually transmitted infections there are no precautions being taken she is um uh seizing every opportunity to have sex with everyone as often as she can uh wherever she is in the moment and um while i admire the sort of the pursuit of sexual happiness you you gotta you gotta think about your body a little bit you've got to think about your body you've got the option to just hit a hard reset every time things go awry and do you
Starting point is 00:09:52 reborn as a 20 year old virgin does the plastic surgery remove chlamydia say no chlamydia is actually a pretty easy one to get rid of. As I understand it. HPV. Do these surgeons' talents extend to removing HPV? No. Because I think these movies might have come out either before the vaccine that we have now or before it was popularized. So we've got to put this in context.
Starting point is 00:10:20 This surgeon has got to be a pretty stonking epidemiologist. Those are very different jobs aren't they to change to change the body like the external nature of the body is very different from rewiring or you know uh changing anything that's happening internally but we've been waylaid here tim i want to know how you feel you're in your new body you're a 20 year old virgin you live in fear of seeing me if you're overwhelming urge to podcast together even though you know it's not in your best interest and you've been burned before how do you feel when you see me how do you feel when you see people who are in your life how do you interact with them do you identify yourself i don't know dude this is a weird question i don't know okay
Starting point is 00:11:02 maybe it's the the meet the pog you and i podcasting together is maybe not the best analogous example but i just want to know like what your life is like inside of your new body um well emmanuel when she gets the surgery done she questions like if she's going to have the same memories and stuff so this is pretty this is a pretty big overhaul of the hardware i am going to seize the opportunity and start afresh completely new yeah um i am going to move to rarotonga and the cook islands and start a fish and chip shop but not a chain because they don't do franchises there just a fish and chip shop and it's going to be fine and then one day you're um you're working at your fish and chip shop and in strolls me in strolls i don't want to sort of get our wires crossed with your genuine personal life in strolls me, Guy Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I'm on holiday. I'm having a ball. You see me. Yeah. What is the reaction? Do you, are you totally unfamiliar and you sort of go, I got to go out the back and let someone else deal with it? Or are you like.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm going to say deep fried or crumbed? Crumbed. We're good here. And I'm looking at you like, I this fucking guy because this is what mark does right yeah reasons unknown flies to brazil and comes across emmanuel reborn at a party and he's staring at her like this motherfucker yeah this is going to be this is going to be tricky because um i'm the only one who works in the fish and chip shop because as i mentioned it's going fine but it's not really going well enough
Starting point is 00:12:46 that I can hire anyone else there this is insane you are in charge of your own destiny here you've got this page one rewrite this beautiful 20 year old virginal body and you've chosen within your fantasy to start like operating a fish and chip shop that is just getting by
Starting point is 00:13:01 yeah I think there's a lot of value in hard work and hustle so I think there's a lot of value in hard work and hustle. So I think it's important to stay grounded. Work smart, not hard is what people say. I'm living in beautiful Rarotonga. What more could a man want? I guess maybe someone in their employ, someone to help them build their business.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Eh. I like cooking my chips and my fish. Okay. So I see you. Yeah, you take my order it's it's quite tricky i'm gonna have to do one of those sitcom sequences where i keep trying to like hide my face away from you using things that are just around so you don't have to like duck down and obscure myself so you don't make the connection you don't like it's not your face i recognize it's your spirit it's your essence i know that's what i'm trying to hide hide away from you don't like it's not your face i recognize it's your spirit it's your essence i know that's what i'm trying to hide hide away from you can't hide an essence yeah but i'm trying my
Starting point is 00:13:51 best to physically hiding your face yeah absolutely you've asked me a very very specific question and gotten very angry at my response to it i'm not not angry. I'm just trying to explore with you. I've got a cool life here in Rarotonga. I've got my fish and chip shop. I'm at the beach multiple times a week. I've learned how to surf, maybe. I'm actually not sure how the surf is in Rarotonga. It's just, I guess I can't be ungrateful for you
Starting point is 00:14:21 playing with the fantasy and answering the question, but I just... Would you be devastated if I i because presumably you would think that i had died yeah i guess i'd be like wow that's a shame i wonder what people think happened to okay so we gotta clear this up this is the biggest question for me what the fuck is going like have they there's a concept in like comic books and stuff called retconning where you retroactively add something to the story and so and it explains past events right so like they were calling her emmanuel in the first three movies right i didn't make that up yeah that was her name but in this movie but in this movie they call her sylvia which is the first name of the actress who portrays emmanuel yeah they keep
Starting point is 00:15:13 calling her sylvia sylvia sylvia and then when she's the 20 year old virgin she is emmanuel now yeah so it's um are you confused by that if i got that right do you like is that was that your read on it yeah that is to to my eyes what happened and i think it's sort of like a um annoying acknowledgement to the audience the sort of legion of franchise fans that built up across the three and a half four movies that they're saying hey look uh we're handing over the reins here it's too big though it's too big it's not like when you break the fourth wall you're supposed to like give a little wink to the camera you're not supposed to grab the camera operator and shake them by the shoulders and say look we're inside a facade my name isn't emmanuel it's sylvia
Starting point is 00:16:01 it's yeah i'm just i'm sorry i'm just i've got this um new york times review from january 11th 1985 in front of me i'd love to hear it written by vincent canby and i'm just sort of uh trying to scan ahead because i know that they make light reference of i haven't actually read the whole review manuel four which opens today at the east side and ua twin theaters is the third sequel to be spun off the 1974 exploitation hit Emmanuel, which starred Sylvia Christel. If the first sequel had been titled Daughter of Emmanuel instead of Emmanuel 2, the new film might well be called Great Granddaughter of Emmanuel,
Starting point is 00:16:35 which sounds a bit geriatric but wouldn't be entirely misleading. The producer of Emmanuel 4 tactfully acknowledged that the leggy dutch-born miss christelle may well be reaching that certain age officially 35 at which the woman stars of softcore exploitation films 35 should turn to other pursuits perhaps selling real estate our friend fucking vincent's not in the movie folks no vincent's just throwing that in that's just what he thinks is up very early in emmanuel for the still beautiful miss christelle is a woman named sylvia is in a frightful bind how can she escape the obsessive attentions of
Starting point is 00:17:16 mark when she knows that he'll pursue her to the ends of the earth which in the case of emmanuel four appears to mean beverly hills that's not right though that's not even the plot the plot is that she can't help herself when she sees he's not trying to find her it's such a stupid plot line because she keeps going about how like mark's an arsehole mark's ruining her life marks a baddie and then for no reason in particular she just she goes like to the ends of the earth to get away from him and she changes her whole physicality i'm sorry that i'm jump cutting the plot here guy but that is what happens and then she's just like well i've found love with this woman called donna and everything's going great and her own version of a raritongan fish and chip shop life on a beach with donna and well simple things do you not do and then she's
Starting point is 00:18:00 like i better bail i'm too happy i gotta go see mark and fuck myself. Do you not see the challenges involved with running your fish and chip shop? I mean, we've got an instance of it right here. Even if things are humming along and you are going to the beach several times a week, you are learning to surf, you are crumbing your fish to your heart's content, there'll still be an itch that must be scratched deep within you and your new 20 year old virginal body i think i could let you go guy and i say that with love in my heart but a fish and chip shop is all consuming and it's really important that i put all of myself into this business
Starting point is 00:18:36 very well don't you think don't you think it's important to focus on the shop because like there's a lot of eateries in raritonga and there's quite a few fish and chip shops and to even keep my head above water i'm gonna have my eyes on the ball why are you doing the fish and chip shop then it's my dream why are you taking this to a place where there's a lot of you know this product already is already saturated in the market i i want to do i don't necessarily want to be the best in rarotonga but i want to be among the best fish and chip shops in rarotonga it sounds like you've carved out so much work for yourself there's joy in that you know man it's important it's important to have something to do every day it's important to
Starting point is 00:19:20 be part of a community and be contributing and uh the way I'd like to contribute is to open a moderately successful fish and chip shop that can be considered among the better ones in the Cook Islands. You've made it pretty clear, Tim. You've made that much obvious. Let us return to talking about the film at hand then, which has launched this sort of fantasy that we're exploring of yours. Today. the film at hand then which has launched this sort of fantasy that we're exploring of yours um today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately
Starting point is 00:20:00 borderlands now playing immediately order lands now playing i suppose it's good times any to perform a little boner patrol my dude was there a staring in your loins at any point no there was not like physically but i could i could see myself in a different context uh getting excited the um the excuse me oh big stretch the um the new emmanuel the all the women in these movies are very beautiful the new emmanuel is very beautiful um we see her naked quite a bit um this there's a couple of pretty pretty hot scenes with him i i i thought i mean for a start that is sort of i'm going to be talking about this from two different perspectives. One is a cinema goer and one is someone watching a softcore pornography. But the cinema goer in me wanted to stay at the Samba class.
Starting point is 00:20:54 When she's sort of got her new body and she's up and running and she's in Rio de Janeiro, she goes to the Samba class. And as you rightly pointed out in our communique during the film it fucking rules the music's great the energy is electric everyone's having a good time it's sort of this free-flowing quite open-minded sort of hey let's just see what happens here
Starting point is 00:21:13 kind of environment but I suppose I don't think anyone's learning how to dance no it didn't seem but it didn't also feel like they needed to or perhaps wanted to and she goes along and maybe she's still reeling from the anesthetic or you know the experience of the surgery but she's she leaves and she says i had to get away from
Starting point is 00:21:31 this noisy samba class and she sort of walks into the which i wanted you know wanted her to stay up for a while just to absolutely we're having a good time there yeah i mean also it's you know i don't want to date this podcast too heavily but we are in the throes of a pandemic, which means that international travel is off the cards. And seeing a character sort of explore Brazil, a country to which I've never been, but have an overwhelming desire to one day visit, you know, it makes you reminisce or crave the notion of travel. And so to see someone exploring these different parts of the culture, as cherry-picked as they might be, it looked great. Anyway, she leaves the samba class and she goes to this adjacent room and the samba music's still playing.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And there is this scene, these two women have also sort of skived off of samba class. And one of them is performing rapturous cunnilingus upon the other one and at this moment i sort of thought okay we might have something to bring to boner patrol for show and tell at class today but then i couldn't help but notice that the hips of the the recipient of the cunnilingus was sort of moving perfectly in time to the samba music and i just i thought this is really cool i mean this is some some boss level shit to to groove to groove along to samba while having your socks knocked off by a bit of cunning that's all time stuff and then emmanuel starts having a knee knocking good time and suddenly
Starting point is 00:22:58 boner patrol wasn't boner patrol it was just you know it was just just an appreciation for some people having a jolly good day just yeah just like fuck i mean you know here's something remember travel everyone remember getting getting a plane ticket and going to a samba class where someone's going down on someone else and you're fingering yourself silly in the corner watching over i think travel it was good remember the good old days of 2018 bloody covid get on a plane and walk into a warehouse and know exactly what was going to be in front of you. Hey, can I share a shining light? Of course.
Starting point is 00:23:32 It was by far the funniest bit of the film where Emmanuel, 20-year-old virgin Emmanuel, is walking around. Is it with Mark? Who's the man that she's with when they're in Brazil? It's like around the three-quarter mark of the film. Rodrigo? Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:23:48 That one's Rodrigo, yeah. And she's like, hey, we should have sex. And he's like, we will get arrested. And she's like, oh, exciting. We'll do it at night. And he's like, we're not. She's like, we should go for a night walk. He's like, that is a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:24:02 This is dangerous. She's like, it's dangerous and exciting. And then as they're walking down the street, more and more dudes start following them and they're all producing ever increasingly large knives to the point where people have visible flick blades and one guy is wielding a machete immediately behind them. And Rodrigo has seen them and he's like,
Starting point is 00:24:24 hey, we need to get back to the hotel she's like no i'm having far too good a time this is cool don't be such a spoiled sport we're having a great time and they're about to get fucking executed on the street summarily at the hand of a sharpened blade and um it just cracked me up it's very funny to uh like if they were playing it for laughs and they kind of were, I don't know, maybe. It was just so good to see someone so oblivious to the danger they were in. But it was in a softcore porno, so, you know, it wasn't like a full-throated belly laugh.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I think it was self-knowing. I think they're having a bit of fun there. If we are doing Shining Lights, I mean, that is a belt. Mine was the discovery and then reuse of the incredible sort of cut or edit point where they would sort of like a PowerPoint animation of the pages of a book turning, but two pages in the middle of the screen. And then all of a sudden, the first time they used it, it's like you're in the movie, you're in the scene. It's somewhat high concept, but you're keeping up and then the page turns and all of a sudden we're back with sylvia the original emmanuel and she's in this white room with some unnamed unknown young woman and they're admiring five naked men's bodies in glass cages and she's going i'm gonna you are
Starting point is 00:25:40 you choose who you want and i'm going to coach you through and i mean that's that's ancillary to the initial point which is the page turning device discovered and reused was an absolute delight and yeah the sort of the realms to which it opened in the movie it wasn't like well this has to be tethered to what's happening it's like we'll just turn the page and that's permission to do literally anything we want so a couple things on that number one this was the second big matrix point for me because I was like, oh, they're in the, what is it called, the construct or something?
Starting point is 00:26:10 That white room where Morpheus takes Neo and they get all the guns and shit. Yeah, I can't remember. Just like an expansive white space where things are sort of invented. It was totally that scene. And the cartoon book opening thing, which they used just all across this movie and
Starting point is 00:26:27 the edits are terrible did you know did you come across in your travels guide that this movie was shown in 3d when it came out no what yeah yeah this movie was in 3d but apparently the 3d was dog shit and i've been trying to like 3d was still dog shit like two years ago of course it was dog shit in 1984 so they were i think they were using like some different flavors but i was trying to get in the weeds of what technology they were using but i think it was the ones where you got to have like the red and blue glasses as a cinema watcher. And I came across only one review that mentioned it, that said it was dog shit.
Starting point is 00:27:12 My words, not theirs, but they said it was subpar. But can you imagine going to a softcore porno with 3D glasses on? What a moment in time that would be. Well, if I think of the experience of going to this at the cinema and the sort of dastardly behaviors, you know, people who are enjoying the intended purposes of this sort of film at the cinema, the obscuring nature of having those glasses on and looking to your sides
Starting point is 00:27:34 and everything's out of focus and impossible to discern. It's not something I'm against. Yeah. Yeah. There's a level of anonymity about having something on your face. Yeah. I mean, it's chaos. It used the same technology as uh jaws 3d um which came out in 1983 so uh it widely panned
Starting point is 00:27:56 as far as i know the yeah 3d this is what is said of the um jaws 3d um because i can't find too much on the emmanuel 3d there was a revival in popularity of 3d at this time with many films using the technique jaws's second sequel integrated the technology into its title um to make use of the jewel use of the number three the gimmick was also advertised in the tagline the third dimension is terror of course it is depth that is um just a note from me tim as it was joe alva's first film as a director he thought 3d would quote give him an edge that is the movie made money but um everyone hated it so that is such a um sort of entry-level mistake to be like, I'm doing this huge overwhelming job for the first time.
Starting point is 00:28:48 How will I give myself an edge by introducing another even more challenging component? It's like moving to Rarotonga, a place known for having a number of pretty good fish and chip shops. I don't know that that's one of the headline things about trying to start your own top tier fish and chip joint solo it would be that level of of difficulty yeah the script is all over the map in this movie within 90 seconds we get a reference to a woman's vagina is both private and then the c word which i won't say because i know we have a lot of american
Starting point is 00:29:26 listeners and you might be listening with your tiny children in the car which is where i like to listen to podcasts about softcore pornographies it's um i just wanted to say if we are doing script i wrote down a line i really liked which was um love is an eagle with claws clutched around our hearts once it has got a good hold it will never let go that that belongs anywhere that belongs in the smithsonian for mine it's pretty good uh well my full quote is i'm going to ask you a question that a woman never asks a man i wrote that that one down too. Do you prefer to make love with the lights on or off? He responds, probably off. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:09 So you can't even see the woman you love, her body, her breasts, her privates? I think it's beautiful and quite demure and very sexy to call any bodily parts that are beneath clothes private. I won't even make mention of a belly button in the winter because it is a private part. It is a private. To be withheld from public. Bits of the soundtrack absolutely slapped.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Other bits ate dog turds. There was like a kind of Rod Stewart-esque soft rock theme song that kept coming back which was in english which which makes me hopeful that it wasn't in the original release and they just added it in for those idiot americans so they'd have something to grab onto while trying to furiously masturbate to a movie which refused to engage with sex scenes because so many times when we got one, they'd have a lot of set up,
Starting point is 00:31:07 a whole lot of set up. We're learning the characters. We're getting some good dialogue going. And then just as we're about to get into a pretty rough and ready situation, blam, we've got a cartoon book animation taking us to a different point in time. And all of the most sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:21 large scale sex scenes in this film were all like not really pertaining to Emmanuel. It was like of you know large scale uh sex scenes in this film were all like not really pertaining to emmanuel it was like you know usually it was just off to the side it's like emmanuel's looking out of she's on a veranda and she's looking out in the driving rain at this bit of jungle and there's this unknown woman in a see-through romper standing on a swing moving back and forth and then all of a sudden some other person who we don't know appears and drives her off the swing into the mud and they start rolling around in the mud and i'm like i don't i mean i'm happy for everyone involved but i don't really know what connection this has to the
Starting point is 00:31:56 the story we're following it's all over the show like later on there's a scene where emmanuel's kind of loosely involved she chases someone off of a boat through a river and then they go and have sex somewhere in the jungle and then all of a sudden there's this shot of like an anaconda and then there's another woman and there's a shot of an anaconda like a snake climbing over someone's body
Starting point is 00:32:18 across their private the most traditional definition of private parts and I found that quite, you know, snake on the ground ready to pound snake on the ground, ready to pound. Snake on the pussy, absolutely not. Big no-no for me. What would you rate this movie out of a potential nine private parts
Starting point is 00:32:39 or 17 fish and chip shops? 14 fish and chip shops? 14 out of 17? Yeah, like, i mean i i do think it's sort of it tapered off at the end like they had too many sort of high concept balls in the air to like because that's not the purpose of this movie to to maintain two directors by the way that makes sense um i think working simultaneously but not talking to each other is the impression i got one of them was making a sci-fi sort of you know body changing movie and the other one was trying to make a softball porno and they had access to the same parts sometimes they both had to get there's a guy in your window guy looking directly at me yeah don't worry about him it's freaking me out
Starting point is 00:33:22 he's the hide help he's my gag writer he's just making sure i'm sticking the landings on all these great these great bits good stuff um yeah but i i i thought it was fun like i'm i'm glad to have seen it i sort of wonder if i try and think about the trajectory or the build of these movies across the franchise so this you know we have watched these slightly out of order if this would change anything from what i've seen seen since. But I mean, I don't necessarily know that it would. What do you think? Yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't think there's any utility in watching these sequentially. And in some ways, we did it a more fun way
Starting point is 00:33:55 because you can kind of like, it's like when you don't see the monster in a movie, you know, you can kind of let your imagination fill in the best possible version of what would be scary to you. So having seen this fourth movie now this did not fill in any blanks for what's going on in the series i um i felt really bad for sylvia the actress and just kind of the like messaging of what's happening in this movie to her and her career she's been cast aside i have it in good authority we get to revisit her
Starting point is 00:34:25 in emmanuel seven something i'm looking forward to she rejoins the series uh for a once uh um but yeah pretty dog shit there at age 35 you're thrown in the bin for a 20 year old virgin i mean you you alerted me previously to the fact that she um had a somewhat tumultuous life off camera i think in no small part contributed to by you know let's close off on this because it's um it's worth i don't know if we've done this yet but um before you close off before you know i just want to give you a piece of trivia that you specifically i think might be interested in oh yeah um the guy who plays Mark, Patrick Bichaud. Did you recognize him at all?
Starting point is 00:35:10 He did look familiar, but I figured it was from another one of these movies. He's not been in Emmanuel before or since. A Belgian actor best known for his role as Scarpine in the 1985 James Bond movie, A View to Kill. Which was the last Roger Moore. What? Oh, sorry, it is too.
Starting point is 00:35:31 That's the one with, what's her name? The pop star who was going to play in New Zealand. Grace Jones, who did play in New Zealand, same day as my wedding. Yes. And I can't remember what was her name. What was her name? Oh, he's not. Actually, he was not the lead, though. The lead villain in remember what was her name. What was her name? Oh, he's not. Actually, he was not the lead, though.
Starting point is 00:35:47 The lead villain in that was Christopher Walken as Max Zorin. Who played what? Who? Max Zorin, a psychopathic industrialist. It's weird that these names aren't ringing bells. I haven't seen that one. Anyway, I know you're a Bond guy. I thought you might get a kick out of that.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah, man. Big time. And, yeah, that is um where that's from i'm trying to find there's a list of movies that someone sent me and i think i read it on the wiki but i can't see it here that um sylvia cristal like said no to oh no Unsuccessfully applied for the role of the Bond girl in the movies The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker. That hurts even more, you know, knowing that. She went for Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, and Octopussy. She rejected the main female roles in The Story of Adele H., King Kong, and Logan's Run.
Starting point is 00:36:41 in the story of Adele H, King Kong, and Logan's Run, and Caligula, Body Heat, Blade Runner, Scarface, June,
Starting point is 00:36:51 She said no to all of this? Apparently, yeah. And Blue Velvet as well. God damn. Life can be tough. Yeah, you gotta be careful with the decisions you make. What is the takeaway? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I think it is, you know. Wear a condom. Do you know what the takeaway is? Use protection. I was going to say the takeaway is you've got to crumb your fish when the ingredients are there. That's great. I love that.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I'd quite like to get some merch made up of Timbo's fish and chips. So we'll see if I get onto that design and get that in the merch store. The 12th best fish and chip shop in Rarotonga. No, it's up there, dude. It's like fourth. It's like fourth or third. Nah. Nah.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Okay, we'll catch you in the next episode of The Worst Idea of All Time Season 5. O come, O come, Emmanuel. Yeah. Number, what are we up to now? Seven? Cool. Bye. Seven to heaven baby.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Oh, is that for me or the listener? You can keep going if you want, I've left. Well, now that Tim's gone,
Starting point is 00:37:56 I just want to say thanks a lot for listening along guys. Really appreciate it. It's actually hard because Tim can still hear me even though it's just me on the record
Starting point is 00:38:05 um yeah i hope you guys are enjoying the the season so far we're having a really good time having a lot of fun having a lot of laughs actually uh and um yep i've got nothing to say i don't know why I keep going. Catch you soon. We'll be you next time.

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