The Worst Idea Of All Time - 2: Priorities w/ Stu Daulman (Overlooked and Undercooked S2E2)

Episode Date: October 24, 2019

Jamie goes on a blind date after an encounter with a spider, something something Miranda is going to school? Who cares? We got Stu Daulman! A true sweetheart of the Australian comedy scene. According ...to Stu, the comedy in Real Rob is a bit out of touch but at least Rob is happy. It's a happy life. Cheque-eating, comedy guessing fun!Follow Stu on Twitter: @stu_what Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer everybody ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately borderlands now playing hello and welcome along to episode two of Overlooked and Undercooked, the only podcast dedicated to deep diving into the critically revered real Rob. A semi-autobiographical show written, produced, directed by, starring and funded entirely by the great Rob Schneider. You're using the word revered wrong. No, no, no. It's not what it means.
Starting point is 00:00:44 No, no, I got it. Joined as always by Tim Bex. Hello. And very special guest in the form of brilliant Australian comic, Stu Dallman. Good afternoon, everyone. Hello, Stu. Hey.
Starting point is 00:00:57 How you doing, buddy? Yeah, I'm pretty good, actually. It's good. You look good. Thanks. You sound good. You too, as well. We've just watched episode two of season two, Priorities,
Starting point is 00:01:10 in which Rob and Patricia explore some rather dubious preschool options for Miranda. Jamie goes on a blind date after an unfortunate encounter with a spider. Stu, have you watched any of Real Rob before? No. Why? I didn't even know it existed. Yep. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I kind of, uh, I'm trying to live real stew. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't really get to, I'm not aware of these things that come up. I'm not really into the Schneider world. Obviously, this is sort of at the forefront of the, you know, the cultural conversation. Real Rob. Every season's release is, you know, there's a lot of fanfare.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I don't know how this one slipped under your radar, but what do you make of it? I got to say to you guys halfway through the podcast, you can look at this two ways. I don't appreciate the comedy personally. I think it's a little bit out of touch. It's a bit outdated. I don't think it's funny at all.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah. You could say. I could say that. And I am. And I mean, yeah, sure, you can bag it out. But also you've got to look at it in such a way where I look at it through an envious gaze. Because when you get to a certain level of wealth, it must be nice for nothing to matter anymore. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Like, no one's telling him it's bad. No one. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Does that mean he thinks it's good? I think he's happy, and that's good for him. That is so sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:44 At no point has it occurred to me To question whether or not Rob Schneider is happy Well he's got an amazing His wife's very Like she's beautiful They live in an amazing home They make a TV show together with his friend It's pretty
Starting point is 00:02:57 Like that's a happy life Yeah man You're not wrong when you lay it out like that Yeah But Stu You're a man who's Academically pursuing the craft of screenwriting itself Yes wrong when you lay it out like that yeah but it's true you're a man who's um academically pursuing the craft of screenwriting itself yeah and and you know um having recently watched your new
Starting point is 00:03:12 festival hour which i absolutely loved you're a man who uh values art there's worth in things being good you know what i'm saying oh there's there's there's importance to things being good it's there's people being happy you know i could take or leave yeah i think the value of things we put out in the world is very important yeah but like it must be nice when that doesn't even matter anymore you know what i mean sort of like if they were truly happy they're lobotomy itotomy. It's like he's gotten to a point in his career where his wealth has lobotomized himself. But if they were truly happy, then I don't think they would need to make this.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Nothing's of consequence. Yeah, but then that's ego, though. Because then ego is like, oh, what are you working on? Like, he's sitting on the couch when he's laying by the pool reading a script. What are you reading, Schneider? what are you working on? Like, he's sitting on the couch when he's laying by the pool reading a script. What are you reading, Schneider? You said, what are you reading? Even before then,
Starting point is 00:04:09 within less than two minutes of the show, you said, well, none of this stuff fucking matters. I stand by that. Yeah, there's nothing of consequence that happens. Although, to be fair, in this episode, it is the closest we see to any sort of consequence
Starting point is 00:04:24 for Rob's insistence on being the worst possible person at all times. His much put upon, long-suffering assistant, Jamie. Rob, early in the episode, so Rob continues to fail in his duties as a husband. He's given a very clear outline for the day. We've got three appointments at preschools for our daughter. There's an exterminator coming at 1 p.m. Someone's coming a very clear outline for the day. We've got three appointments at preschools for our daughter. There's an exterminator coming at 1pm. Someone's coming to fix the pool cover. We should get Stu to lay
Starting point is 00:04:50 it out as well. I think that'd be fun. I'm sort of just trying to build... All I want to articulate here is that Rob sort of cancels some of that and he does the pool cover himself but he pulls it over himself and almost drowns. And his reaction to that is he tries to kill his assistant. But where did he get the knife in the pocket?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Why is he got a knife in his pocket? It was a pen, wasn't it? Or was it a knife? It seemed like it was. Like a letter opener. He held it up in a way that like, ha ha, this plot device finally came back. But it was like, I didn't see the setup for this.
Starting point is 00:05:17 When he was reading the script, he might have had a pen. He was circling the good lines, making little notes. But so he tries to kill Jamie. And for the first time, Jamie, we see like almost reflection or contemplation
Starting point is 00:05:29 in the world of real Rob. We see characters who like there are consequences for actions and they think about more than whatever is happening in the immediate. And that's unique to any other episode I've seen of this show.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It was very satisfying. They came up right on the precipice of actually making an episode of TV. Well, like, he almost gets... Like, he loses his job twice. Like, he almost kills Rob Schneider. Yeah. And then he almost gets killed by Rob Schneider.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Well, hold on. He doesn't kill... Like, he almost kills... Fucking Rob kills himself almost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's unfair to put that on Jamie. No, okay. Now you're buying
Starting point is 00:06:05 into schneider's bullshit all right well then okay so he almost loses his job twice yeah or three times because that's just before he steps on the spider so you know rule three i guess that makes sense yeah i don't think that they're not abiding any sort of principles of comedy writing here everything is by coincidence like and they've got no they obviously have no idea like it's you know it's that thing where it's it's just there's no quality control like all most of comedy is editing and the this is literally they're just spinning a wheel and whatever premise presents itself they're like yeah we'll do that and like they sometimes they get close to their credit this wasn't a bad bad episode. This wasn't a bad episode? Dude, this, I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:46 it's been a while since I saw the first season, but I think this would rate in the top three of everything we've seen so far easily. It was the most... It was streaks ahead of the pilot. Sorry, not the pilot, the first episode of the second. In terms of storytelling,
Starting point is 00:06:58 there's something, yeah, like there's something to sink your teeth into. Like, I was almost, the idea of Jamie leaving was exciting. It's like, and this is why I think I get so crossed with the other episodes. It's because none of, like you said, none of this stuff fucking matters.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Like, there's no consequence to anyone's actions. Like, everyone just repeats, they return to the, you know, to the norm or whatever at the end of the episode. And we start the third episode or whatever and like, there's no net change from all the awful decisions that have been made
Starting point is 00:07:25 exactly because like Rob like eats the check he eats the check for the for the for the spider guy yeah and then he gets
Starting point is 00:07:32 he orders a sauna yeah a UV sauna or something like that and then it doesn't that doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:07:38 oh Rob yeah I did it the wife comes and says you shouldn't have done that and he says you articulated it when you were watching one of the runs that Rob was going on,
Starting point is 00:07:48 where you were just saying, is this comedy? Is this comedy? Like, you know, that's what this show is. It's just three people getting in a room together and writing the word, is this comedy, on a script over and over. Yeah. It's so weird how, like, especially
Starting point is 00:08:01 he just gets away with it. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's what I mean. If you're in a proper relationship, A, like you said at the beginning, that relationship is a mess because she gives the check to the assistant rather than Rob, and then she leaves the room, Rob eats the check. That's just insane. It's shooting through the middle of anything
Starting point is 00:08:22 because it's not funny as a gag within the show. It's just a sad example of a marriage that should have broken up already and it's kind of but it's also not skillful enough
Starting point is 00:08:32 to be like a drama where you feel tragedy for it's just like oh man that doesn't make sense well if you can't trust your husband to give a check
Starting point is 00:08:39 to an exterminator to get rid of spiders while your wife and child are living in the house yeah yeah shit's not going well just end it there's the thing we've got options it's 29 an exterminator to get rid of spiders while your wife and child are living in the house. Yeah. Yeah, shit's not going well. Just end it.
Starting point is 00:08:46 There's the thing. We've got options. It's 2019, oh, this was made 2017. Great, yeah. They still had divorce then. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:54 they had divorce then. Really? They had divorce? No, no, no. No, they had access to the content of divorce. Divorce was on the table is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Fuck. Stu, let me phrase the question this way. Okay. What was this episode about? Yeah, I think it was like giving Jamie a bit of backstory. Which was what? Tell everyone. Well, he doesn't know his parents.
Starting point is 00:09:18 He lives alone. He's very lonely. He cops a lot from Rob. And literally Rob goes, you need to lie to my wife in order to keep your job. And then stand on this poisonous spider, please. Rob hangs firing over Jamie in every single episode. And every time he's never going to fire him.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Jamie's never going to quit. We are trapped in Groundhog Day where like the events are different it's wily coyote isn't it yeah with the roadrunner yeah truly every episode and in more ways than one because there's a lot of cartoonish yeah but like to but what roadrunner is funny though yeah because it understands what comedy is do you know the other reason i think this episode felt promising or different and i do think they dropped the ball but ultimately to begin with it was quite exciting was because patricia was angry at rob in a way we haven't seen where it was like she was swearing so much it felt like they dialed into the fact that rob's character is utterly unlikable
Starting point is 00:10:14 yeah and then just as they sort of like got it between their you know between their teeth they're like they let go completely but it was also good because they started playing with some new stuff like there was a cold open to this episode, which was incredibly brief, just a few seconds long, to the point where I got you to rewind it, Guy, because it was like... Yes, we thought to skip the beginning. Yeah, I was like, oh, fuck, we missed something. We've got to see the whole thing. And it was just some sound effects of underwater sloshing.
Starting point is 00:10:40 A bit of poking on the pool cover. Yeah, which you didn't fully know it was a pool cover. I guess you could figure it out. Well, you guys sort of thought it was Jamie. Oh, is Jamie going to drown? Jamie's drowned. Jamie's on the pool cover. Yeah, which you didn't fully know it was a pool cover. I guess you could figure it out. Well, you guys sort of thought it was Jamie. Oh, is Jamie going to drown? Jamie's drowned. Jamie's under the pool cover. If someone is going to be under serious physical hardship,
Starting point is 00:10:51 it's a pretty safe bet it's going to be Jamie. It was just a cool, quite beautiful shot. Actually, you know, it doesn't look bad, not all of it, this show. There's some dungas in there, but there's some good people there. this, not all of it, this show. There's some dungas in there, but there's some good people there. A few seconds we get a blue aquamarine pool cover just occupying
Starting point is 00:11:10 the entirety of the shot, and it's kind of cool and it's got this cool sloshing sound. That is a no-shot. I'm on the hook. What's happening? What's going on? Jamie's under there? Cool. How do you get there? Yeah, they play with chronological storytelling. They've never done that before. They revisit that moment halfway through the episode.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It's like he saw, fuck, what's that movie called again? I was going to call it Incognito. That's not right. Memento. Memento. Incognito. Can we talk about the porn version of Memento? But there are several comedic devices set up,
Starting point is 00:11:41 like interviewing for a preschool. It's like there's comedy games to play inside of some of these some of these scenes and they don't always get it right but they fill it out
Starting point is 00:11:48 with like they get good guest stars in this episode absolutely so they had Angela Kinsey who was she was the one
Starting point is 00:11:58 who was like the Scientology style preschool who's best known for playing she's in The Office yeah as Angela
Starting point is 00:12:04 in that as well yeah Angela that's her name she's awesome and she's in The Office. Yeah. As Angela in that as well. Yeah, Angela, that's her name. She's awesome. And she's like a fantastic comedy actor and she does her best with what little scraps she's fed. Yeah, she literally drops scraps of cash as they leave the room.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Yeah, that's what sucks. This actually happened quite a lot in this episode where they start off a scene and it's like, fuck, this has actually got a bit of promise. Like, there could be something here and they fuck it up so dramatically by the end and then you're back into electro swing and an interstitial driving sequence and you're just like oh fuck you were so god damn it you fuckers have got to trip over a good scene one of these days you keep
Starting point is 00:12:40 throwing stuff at the wall something's got to stick yeah it's incredible a lot of walls as well a lot of walls in the show they're throwing a lot of shit a lot of walls much spaghetti what I like to think about though and I especially was thinking about this during that
Starting point is 00:12:54 pool scene is that you know when you're working on a show in the crew okay because you know we're lucky enough to do some like
Starting point is 00:13:01 you know film stuff and TV stuff when you get laughed from crew that's a really exciting thing. You get laughed when you do gigs and stuff, but crew laughs are the best laughs. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:13:10 And I don't think there's any crew laughs on this shoot. I reckon there is. You reckon? Well, this is all Rob Schneider's in-house production thing. But I don't think they're genuine laughs. But I think everyone's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great, Rob.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's great. It is literally impossible to imagine any that anyone laughing any of these takes and the most demoralizing ones to think about are the ones which are obviously meant to be big comedy beats like when he puts the check in his mouth and you're like i get it yeah i get what a crazy guy but it's like it's just done in such a... But that's complete narcissistic behavior because if you're not looking around for someone, like a face, because there would be a face, one or two,
Starting point is 00:13:50 when you're eating a check and going... The saddest thing is the thing. It's impossible for any TV show or movie to get everything on the first take. So Rob Schneider, 10 takes into a gig that wasn't working half an hour ago pretending to eat a chick. Who are we doing this for?
Starting point is 00:14:09 I've got paper cuts on the roof of my mouth. Credit to Rob Schneider. He's not using a stunt double for the chick eating. He puts himself in some wacky situations and he uses his physicality for multiple attempts at comedy teams what was your
Starting point is 00:14:25 favorite comedic beat stew oh man you really put me on the spot here i think you oh you got there was a genuine laugh from the two of you at one moment in the film i can remember well i was kind of i knew that was coming and that's why i laughed and jamie's backstory yeah was that when what was there in the movie he was in a movie theater yeah yeah yeah yeah and i was expecting like the there's another couple behind them to do that as well but that was you're going to set up what it is jay these people don't watch okay sorry so it's like it's it's real gratuitous bullshit but like the the like jamie's alone it's this whole kind of montage about him being alone and then he's got a birthday cake with one candle and blows it out and says happy birthday lovely tracking shot of the room with the chessboard that guy you definitely i mean you know if he's got a birthday cake with one candle and blows it out and says, happy birthday. Lovely tracking shot of the room with the chessboard.
Starting point is 00:15:10 That guy, you definitely, I mean, you know, if he's so alone, why is he playing chess? If he's so thick, you know, why would he have a chessboard? Yeah, exactly right. And then it goes next is to the movies where everyone all of a sudden starts giving each other head. So that's, I don't know. I just saw that coming. The first time they used that gag, it was...
Starting point is 00:15:28 That elicited a genuine laugh, I think, from both of us. Certainly from me. Because you got Jamie in the cinema, and it's sparsely populated, but there's a lot of couples in there. And he sort of looks around him, and there's two couples that we really meet. There's a younger couple behind him, and he looks over, and they're kind of like canoodling, and he goes, oh around him, and there's two couples that we really meet. There's a younger couple behind him.
Starting point is 00:15:46 He looks over, and they're kind of like canoodling, and he goes, oh, isn't that sweet? This is what you read from him. He looks over his other shoulder, an older, sort of almost elderly-aged couple who both of their enjoy, very sweet, very cute. He enjoys that as well. He likes seeing that.
Starting point is 00:16:00 He sort of looks back over the other shoulder, and the girl of the younger couple goes down to give the fella a blowjob. That's funny. Very cute. That's funny. I thought that was funny. But then, and like if they ended that sequence there, I'd be like you fucking, nice one, you landed one. But no, it keeps going. We go back to
Starting point is 00:16:18 the elderly couple and the woman there gives the elderly gentleman a blowjob. It's a very disappointed groan from the boys because because it's it's it's what your parents say you know i'm not angry i'm disappointed and it's the worst of all the emotions to have an expectation where you are setting yourself up to be impressed so here's the expectation roller coaster you say okay well rob schneider sucks at making this show and is bad at writing things we're in a sequence we're just like oh this is this sucks oh he's on us up there no fucking well that's it there's an opportunity i think therefore like you know like a series of
Starting point is 00:16:57 gags because if jamie is consistently followed by people who are giving each other head jobs that's funny oh like all over yeah like all over la that would be fucking funny in the park if that comes out of the movie cinema yeah it's an art gallery yeah yeah it's just it's a dice roll every single time but that so that is within a flashback where he's talking to patricia this is genuinely tragic patty yeah patty is she's affectionately called halfway like he's halfway through a flashback and the other thing
Starting point is 00:17:27 is in that flashback like his life we get a lot of backstory on it and it's unsurprisingly really sad I think that's partly to flesh out the character
Starting point is 00:17:34 and partly because to the people writing the show that's the funniest thing that they can do just sorry to put it's cruel I find it cruel to put a rapper on this
Starting point is 00:17:42 it's because it's a flashback of his life because he's dying this is when Rob Schneider's killing him and he says my life flashed before my eyes and it wasn't good
Starting point is 00:17:49 yeah but so while that's happening Patty is like telling him about how hard she finds her life and it's like
Starting point is 00:17:58 never before apart from arguing with Rob we've never seen her confide in anyone else that she hates her life and that yeah she said she gave up her happiness a long time ago yeah and it's like this is this is crazy like
Starting point is 00:18:11 because we have been living in this consequence-less world and it's like this episode they have introduced the ideas that like rob's actions have like but no one will speak up to him about it or if they do he's so oblivious like such a willfully ignorant prick that it doesn't matter to him and it's really it's harrowing to watch this show suddenly in a world where people do have genuine emotional reactions to the behaviors that previously i was like well this doesn't matter because nothing matters it's like oh no these some stuff does these characters are trapped in a prison it would be like a schneider prison yeah it would be it'd be like um creating a robot that you may do all your fucked up tasks like cleaning bad toilets and stuff and then
Starting point is 00:18:52 figuring out that it had become sentient and conscious at some point you're like oh my god i thought you were just a machine it's like no man i feel things yeah that's what it's like it's horrible so bad i'll tell you this um few interesting little things in this episode the first of which is that patricia's because i am finding it quite hard to track what her name is and and we finally saw because they butted the scenes back to back jamie calls her at the start of this episode patty which we've never heard before and then later on patricia but whenever rob speaks about it he pronounces it patricia yeah so what the fuck like they're all on set together she's there can we at least have one you know patty is fine that's a nickname i get that that's a contraction
Starting point is 00:19:39 of her name but either patricia or patricia one of those is wrong One of those is incorrect I reckon Rob's wrong Fuck that would be very You know of a type Of his type Of a piece But it's in a show where there's only three recurring characters It's a testament to how sloppy
Starting point is 00:20:03 This operation is That they can muddle your There can only be one person they're talking about But you still have to take half a testament to how sloppy this operation is that they can muddle your, you know, like, there can only be one person they're talking about, but you still have to take half a second to be like, oh, they're talking about this madness. Yeah, like, there's a certain amount of ambiguity towards one of the main characters' names. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And this is the second season we're in now. You were, so, and I'd just like to say, because, you know, this is a group effort. This is Rob, Patricia, and Jamie, the three lead actors, also the three writers. And you were like, as you discovered just the sheer amount of involvement Rob Schneider has in this entire creative process,
Starting point is 00:20:32 can you describe what you were thinking when you found that out? I was... Today. You ready? Okay, let's go. The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer Everybody run!
Starting point is 00:20:45 ends here. This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands, now playing. Baffled. By what? By how self-involved you can get on a project. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:01 You've got to look for an outside eye. You've got to have Sandler coming in. Sandler. Well, we got a cameo from his wife jackie that's right yep she was doing the slave trading of that nursery school that was a good premise that was they didn't quite stick the landing they would go around a series of schools for their kid hammering on the roof pretty good and they're like hey this is a experiential learning environment where we get the kids to pick fruit and learn about things. And then it opens up and it does take you down the path.
Starting point is 00:21:30 You're like, this is cool. And then as it goes on, it's like, oh, I get it. They're just fucking fruit picking. Yeah. I can just imagine that's a job that a lot of people, especially in the crew, and I tend to empathize with the crew on a shoot like this, is because they're in the editing room and Rob's going,
Starting point is 00:21:44 that's fucking sick. And then they're like yeah sick right clock in clock out who gives a shit yeah you know what i mean absolutely i i worry about the people because with this sort of a project as well it's going to attract crew um maybe not attract crew there's going to be situations where people are there and they're like fuck man I can't make rent you know what I mean like it's this or the fucking sidewalk
Starting point is 00:22:10 yeah city dreams baby yeah Hollywood California not everyone gets to work on the things they want to work on some people do but what they create
Starting point is 00:22:18 is something that no one else wants to work on and that is real wrong it's crazy you got all the time and resource in the world and this is what you make stew do you reckon it would be um like a worthwhile thing for other people to watch this um i don't know say like the thing is like you're doing screenwriting for example is it
Starting point is 00:22:40 interesting to see something this bad to be like this is is how to not do it? No, but then you can watch The Room and that's fun to watch. But like, you know, it's like I watched, like there was a show called Gotham that was on Netflix for a while. And that is not, it's not the greatest show, but it's about Batman. It's about the world of Batman. And after 10 or so episodes, you're actually pretty into it. You like seeing the scarecrow. Oh, it's a scarecrow. It's like, yeah, sick.
Starting point is 00:23:08 You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, it's, you know, like, a lot of people like watching NCIS. And there must be a reason for that, that they can just go switch off. Yeah. And just watch something that's so inconsequential that it's actually comforting. That's what, that's what old TV, but that's. That's what old TV, that to me is what TV that belongs on, like free-to-air broadcasting, where you turn on the TV and you disengage.
Starting point is 00:23:33 But with Netflix, you're making a conscious choice. Well, yeah, but boomers and stuff, and Generation Xers, these guys have probably watched everything because they don't do anything else. Netflix has got to... They've got to watch something else. Exactly. And Netflix has got to... They've got to watch something. Exactly. And Netflix has got to cater for that mood and crowd as well.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I think you're actually... This is a really good point you're making because I think, you know, it's all very well and good for us to be repetitively outraged at what we're seeing on screen because, you know, we work in comedy and stuff. Well, it's easy.
Starting point is 00:24:03 We're young. We're passionate. We give a shit about things. Yeah, we're not that on screen because, you know, we work in comedy and stuff. Well, it's easy. We're young. We're passionate. We give a shit about things. Yeah, we're not that young. Well, you know what I mean. We care about what's out there. There's a Venn diagram, and the intercept, I think, or the intersect, rather, is the people who are the audience for the show.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I don't say this with malice, and I know it's going to sound like I'm just being an arsehole here, but I think this is a show for fucking stupid people, like for really dumb people. And some people out there are just like really dumb, and that's fine. That's their bag. That's their bag.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Well, the comparison to make is, because we've spoken about this before, were you a Rob Schneider fan growing up? Hold on for a second. The other circle is people who are like, they're either hard up against it or they're working really hard. Like they've got hard lives. So we've got dumb people who are like they're either hard up against it or they're working really hard like they've got hard lives so we've got dumb people who are just they they're just they're having hard lives they're probably at work for fucking 12 hours a day yeah trying to make ends meet
Starting point is 00:24:53 and in the middle of that is is the real rob audience i think of just fucking real dummies who just need to switch off well that's i mean i think that's who this is you know like you know when you came and saw the show the other night, like, we don't have, like, those Friday, Saturday night crowds. There's a bit of my show where we do five minutes of stand-up, and that's when that crowd goes,
Starting point is 00:25:12 oh, I know when to laugh now. You know what I mean? It's like, it's that kind of vibe. It's kind of, like, it feels as though it's that kind of, like, normative kind of thing where, like, people like to understand where they laugh they like to understand where the story's from you know what i mean and let them feel that good on him and if
Starting point is 00:25:31 this makes them feel that hell rob you've done a real good job oh that's so sweet well you're gonna say well i'm just gonna say like i i sort of you know i agree that different people find different things funny but like is this is, is this objectively less funny than, say, the movies of his that you might have enjoyed in your youth? So is this objectively worse than The Animal or The Hot Chick or Juice Bigalow? Or is this the same and worse? A million times worse. I remember seeing The Animal at the movies and losing my shit.
Starting point is 00:26:00 When's the last time you watched it? Oh, man, 20 years ago, I reckon. I don't know. All these movies date. You didn't see The Hot Chick? I saw The Hot years ago I reckon So I haven't watched it I don't know All these movies date You didn't see The Hot Check? I saw The Hot Check I can't remember that really Yeah, same
Starting point is 00:26:09 I saw it at the cinema I couldn't He put a gun to my head Couldn't tell you what happens in it Deuce Bigelow apparently is pretty funny I remember enjoying the first one Yeah Of course
Starting point is 00:26:17 But we were like What are we then? 13, 14 14, 15 I think 13 and 14 year olds today Would enjoy a real Rob No No way.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah, okay. Alright. I hear you. It's objectively worse. That's an interesting... I think so. That's an interesting question but I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:26:34 There's less at stake. Yeah. Schneider's got to make a first movie coming out of the bat. You know what I mean? Coming out of the bat and make a bad movie.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It doesn't matter. He's got Deuce Bigelow one, two. Deuce Bigelow in Europe. I don, two. Deuce Bigelow in Europe. I don't know. Deuce Bigelow, European Deuce Bigelow. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:48 that's right. That's it. Fuck me. You know, and also countless productions of like, you know, just getting on the back of like, what's he,
Starting point is 00:26:55 is he in Happy, um, Happy Madison? Yeah, he was the You Can Do It guy. Well, he, he is and he isn't,
Starting point is 00:27:01 because Guy, Guy and I, as you may know, Stu, we've watched Grown Ups 2, 52 times. Yeah. Um, and he isn't because Guy and I, as you may know, Stu, we've watched Grown Ups 2 52 times. Yeah. And he is not in that film.
Starting point is 00:27:11 After being in Grown Ups 1, he was not in Grown Ups 2. And he's not even mentioned. Although we did a little digging later. This isn't mentioned in the film at all, but one of the characters is the cousin. So there's some sort of story time. But they must have edited out whatever dialogue. Had a bit of a beef maybe well yeah absolutely but then madison billy madison's wife's in this show uh adam sandler's
Starting point is 00:27:31 yeah yeah sorry billy madison um yeah jackie sandler's in here she's she's at the um slavery school yeah she does a good job she does an admirable job with the material she's given i think but she like you know she shows up in all of these you know happy madison all this this yeah and slightly extended circles films so i always think she's fine but i'm always like you don't need to suffer through this indignity yeah jackie this isn't your passion come on jackie jack sadler everyone's got to work everyone's got to get paid jackie sandler genuinely does not but like you know all these people who take on roles in these Rob in these
Starting point is 00:28:06 I guess are they doing it okay are they doing it for the check or are they doing it out of obligation to Rob Schmutter that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:28:12 that's what I mean because this role felt like a family barbecue kind of agreement you know what I mean it's like oh Jackie we'll get you on the show
Starting point is 00:28:20 okay yeah like remember you got that shoot on Tuesday god damn it yeah that happens eh yeah I mean you're that shoot on Tuesday god damn yeah that happens
Starting point is 00:28:26 eh yeah I mean you're here as a result of one of those sort of Faustian
Starting point is 00:28:30 bargains Stu what do you mean I'm here because I like you guys I think
Starting point is 00:28:34 was that the artist bar maybe probably Max Watts late at night
Starting point is 00:28:39 few beers we're all a few sheets to the wind we go hey man do you
Starting point is 00:28:43 want to um we're watching Rob Schneider's bad Netflix show love that do you want to um we're watching rob schneider's bad netflix show for a podcast you want to come on in yeah sure baby i'll come do what you guys do you need to watch it you fucker shame but this was a really this is the terrible thing as much as we're we're fucked up right now and downtrodden and we've explained all the bad things about this episode this was among the greats the true greats that we've seen so far because we got a little bit of um uh coloring in of jamie's backstory which i always i just i like to know what the fuck's
Starting point is 00:29:12 going on i like context it's quite tragic it's incredibly tragic yeah there's two scenes separately where we try to fill in a bit more on jamie number one he's on a date and explains his family circumstances which is that mom walked out on him yeah his mom left without him after his dad cheated on his mom with the mom's sister so his sister-in-law yeah that's how that works and uh and then the other is the flashback sequence where rob schneider his employer attempts to kill him and his life flashes before his eyes and you just see a sequence of loneliness play out. So, I mean pathos be damned, but at least you feel briefly something.
Starting point is 00:29:50 What was the motivating force in this episode? Who is moving the story forward? Okay, who's the protagonist? Who's the antagonist? Is that what you're saying? So protagonist is someone... I reckon the protagonist is probably's the antagonist? Is that what you're saying? So protagonist is someone... I reckon the protagonist is probably the wife. Yeah, Patricia.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Patricia or Patty. Because she wants to get her kid into school. And she wants the house to be exterminated. She creates all of the motive for action. She also puts the idea of suicide on the table for Jamie. So she's not totally blameless. She says to Jamie, I'm amazed it's taken you this long to be suicidal.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah. That's the line. That's the dialogue. It's fucked. And she swears a lot. She flips her lid at the start of this episode, which I actually enjoy because it's like, finally, Patty gets it. But also, Schneider's like an absolutely present
Starting point is 00:30:41 antagonist. Completely going out of his way to cancel the spider extermination. He keeps buying Civil War memorabilia. Yeah, Civil War and Navajo necklaces and stuff like that. What's his... Finish that. Finish that question. Just let Patricia make a good life for them and their daughter.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Do you know if he got out of the way, they'd be sitting pretty, eh? Absolutely. She's got to know that. Yeah. If he keeps... These behaviors have repeated themselves across, what, 10 episodes now? Yeah. Well, now you've got to look at the motivation for the characters, right?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Because now you've got to look at Patricia and what she's got to do. And I reckon she's a little bit, when they're having that, when she was conversing with Jamie on that couch, there's a little bit of like, oh, maybe me and Jamie could hook up. I'm taking a little sense of that. And there was also a beat earlier than that when she was like, I was in the shower and it felt like someone was watching me. And we pull out the door wide and Jamie looks real guilty.
Starting point is 00:31:42 That rolled. That was a gint. They landed the plane on that joke that was a real moment of comedy you know what no but it's
Starting point is 00:31:49 because they moved forward after it it's like another shout in the toilet it wasn't the problem is it's not funny it's like
Starting point is 00:31:58 it's just successfully done the actual the actual you're right the contents of the joke aren't funny. That doesn't matter to me. I just need the formula to be fulfilled.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So that's what I mean. So the next move for this character, especially Patricia and Jamie, is to take care of Schneider. Oh, shit, sorry. You're right. The next move is to take care of Schneider and get him out of the picture.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Which we started to almost... So it's going be almost be like rob versus them and that was another cool thing about this episode because every other episode of real rob involves jamie getting um intensely physically harmed and actually this is no exception he gets a almost fatal spider bite yeah which gives him a huge infection and uh he has a seizure um but uh but But we almost kill Rob in this episode, which was thrilling to me. In a sequence that lasted quite a long time
Starting point is 00:32:49 and I was happy for every second of it, where he is swimming around to quite a good version of Ave Maria while losing his oxygen trapped under a pool cover because he refused to pay the $400 to the plumber to replace the hand crank. Now, its consequence, it was beautifully shot. It wasn't well acted, but the actual shooting itself was great.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And it was just cool to know that there was, briefly, a possibility that Rob Schneider was going to die in this episode. That was a nice treat for us. Yeah, it's like dangling when the antagonist is at his bad. It's like dangling that. Yeah. You know what the antagonist is like, you know, at his bad, at a bad, it's like dangling that. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like,
Starting point is 00:33:27 I reckon, yeah, Rob is definitely the antagonist. I would just like, I would like for someone to be sick across two episodes. What's in like, I would just like, I would like,
Starting point is 00:33:37 I would like, when we start watching episode three, I'd like Jamie to still have a spider bite. Yeah. I'd like to, I would like Patricia to say, hey, remember last time you fucking cancelled the exterminator. I would like patricia to say hey remember last time you fucking canceled
Starting point is 00:33:45 the exterminator i would like any of the any of the thing that happens any follow-through there's no reason for this show to be episodic which it is and that everything is completely self-contained like the simpsons you arrive back at the exact point you started at there's no reason for that because this is a show on netflix and it's a series it should be serialized where consequences do carry knows in the previous episode the one before this he watches narcos and talks about how addictive the shit like he knows the concept of shows that keep you going like they get you on the hook and you want to find out what happens yeah and he just you know he flies in the face of that. It's fucking wild. Are we punching down and reviewing this show, Stu? Punching down?
Starting point is 00:34:27 No. Why not? Because they have so much cash. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They've done their thing. You know what I mean? It's like making fun of boomers.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Oh, they'll be ages. But they've had their thing. You know what I mean? Like, stop holding onto the cliff that is like the future. You know what I mean? Just drop down. You've had your moment. Let us sit in the sun for a the future you know what I mean just drop down you've had your moment let us sit in the sun
Starting point is 00:34:46 for a while you know what I mean and we're not punching down no way Schneider's had quite a successful career making questionable questionably good comedy
Starting point is 00:34:54 so of course there needs to be questions especially at this stage in his career it's like Frank Sinatra when he was like doing music and they're like
Starting point is 00:34:59 oh his last album sucks yeah sure you know what I mean he's already done his breadth of work so yeah make fun of it beautiful happy to hear it last album sucks. Yeah, sure. You know what I mean? He's already done his breadth of work. So yeah, make fun of it. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Happy to hear it. Very on board. Because it absolves us of all guilt, mainly. Yeah. And who cares? If Schneider pulls you up
Starting point is 00:35:17 and you say, all of us go to Hollywood and you go, there's a podcast where you bagged out Rob Schneider's I've talked to him once. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:24 I interviewed him on the radio. Oh, really? Yeah. stuff. I've talked to him once. Really? I interviewed him on the radio. Oh, really? Yeah. And? Nice guy? Weird fucking dude. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:29 He's very into Buddhism. Oh, really? Yeah. Which is surprising because that's supposed to give you balance. I know. It's perspective. And he's so materialistic. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's a recurring gag in the show, though. It's like he's into the ideas of things, but he only reads half the information like he hasn't absorbed it he was plundering his eye and he was he he used he mapped a gag in this show about vaccinations but with spiders which is like all of the neighbors have had their house exterminated so we don't need to and he's using herd immunity to protect himself but he doesn't have to put the chemicals inside his house and that is a genuine application of his attitude towards vaccinations oh my god he gets deep yeah he's
Starting point is 00:36:11 he's alright I'd have him over for dinner just so I could be one of the few people to have a meal with Rob Schneider and say hey I watched all of your Netflix series I think we're pretty much done here Stu's got a fabulous podcast. Well, I haven't listened to it yet,
Starting point is 00:36:27 so I can't call it fabulous, but the concept is fabulous. Thank you. Do you want to just talk about that? I'm a conceptual comedian. The jokes don't need to be funny, they just need to be a good premise. Tell us what it is
Starting point is 00:36:37 and where people can find it, Stu. It's called After Dinner with the Dolmans and it's available on Spotify, iTunes, and internet, and I think SoundCloud as well. But yeah, After Dinner with the Dolmans and it's available on Spotify iTunes and internet and I think SoundCloud as well
Starting point is 00:36:47 but yeah after dinner with the Dolmans and it's just me and my mum chatting after dinner it's so nice it's lovely I love it that sounds fantastic
Starting point is 00:36:55 your mum seems like a real character so I'm here at your show yeah she's great yeah I love my mum she's funny we're very close fantastic
Starting point is 00:37:02 I'd just like to leave the episode with a quote from the show, which is, thanks for driving all the way from Santa Barbara, Kyle. But in this instance, it would be from Brunswick Stew. Yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Thanks for having me, guys. It was a joy. A true pleasure. today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer ends here this is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately borderlands now playing

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