The Worst Idea Of All Time - 24: Timelines w/ Joseph Moore
Episode Date: June 17, 2023TWIOAT's third host for Season Six, Joseph Moore joins the boiz once more because it's time for the final watch of Furious 7. The trio desperately try to figure out the timeline of the movie, Dom's ex...citing lovelife, Elena's gestation period and exactly HOW MANY MOVIES occur between Too Fast and Too Furious and Tokyo Drift. Turns out Joe knows a lot about the Fast Franchise but nothing about babies and Guy cannot stand how Dom holds a bottle of beer. He's really worked up about it! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Music 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
What I was just saying Tim is I don't think it's very cool to objectify a woman like that
Hello everybody and welcome to this
Hmm, hmm
I would just
24th?
24th?
Can you
Thanks Joe
Hold, you wait
What is this?
Hold on for a second.
Can anyone here add the numbers 7, 8, and 9?
15, 24?
Where'd you get 15?
7 and 8.
Yeah.
Oh, I see, yeah.
It's always fun to talk about maths and how would you do this.
Yeah, yeah.
It's always fun.
47 times 3, how would you do it?
How would you do it?
I'd do 50 times 3 minus 9.
Why? Because that's how I would do it. You just asked me how I would do it? How would you do it? I'd do 50 times 3 minus 9 Why?
Because that's how I would do it You just asked me how I would do it
Yeah, yeah
I would do 40 times 3, then 7 times 3, then add them together
That's more complicated
That is way harder
Yeah, wow
Hello everybody
And we've got a special guest here
It's Joseph Moore
He's back again
We thought it was important to have him on
As we kiss farewell to furious
seven i feel bad because the previous times i've come on this podcast i'm i've gone on record as
being no fan of eight and nine um or less of a fan and i was talking this one up so much you know
and i was like you really i'm so excited for you guys to be able to watch what I consider probably the peak of the series five through seven.
And then I was disappointed to hear when I was talking to you recently, Guy.
I was like, how about it?
You're like, it's off to a rough start, mate.
I'm not going to lie.
But we, I think, also feel guilty in that our –
I'll be right back.
Okay.
I'm just going to check these cameras.
Our initial union with the movie was a challenge.
It was on a double feature day.
We finished F8 and then climbed straight into F7
in the middle of a comedy festival.
So we're not being generous as lovers with the movie.
And then I will say it has been
and was a sort of peaks and troughs.
It was like a toxic relationship.
The highs were dizzyingly high.
You think it's going to feel like this forever.
And the lows, you're wondering, how do I get out of this?
That double feature is interesting.
There's a kind of a contention in my otherwise perfect marriage
where if we're binging a series.
A TV series?
A series, yeah.
My rule is between seasons, you have to take a few days off
because the cast and crew did, you know.
And like we've got to kind of recreate the vibe of years passing,
a year passing and the reset.
And Laura's always like, all right, season four episode 20 is finished.
Let's get into – I'm like, no, no, no.
I'm inclined to agree with you.
Yeah.
I have funny little
bugbears about things like that
where I feel like at least the night
at least the night
you can't just dive into the next season
and this is what maybe got Seven off to a bad start
with you because what you should have done is
gone back in time a night
we should have
time travelled to the day before and watched it
that was the proper way to do it.
Time travel does not exist.
It probably will in Fast 11.
Well, that's a spoiler.
Joe's seen Fast 10.
And we did posit that time travel would be like the new vehicle.
Yes.
And it seems it isn't again.
Sorry, man.
No, it's all good.
It's all good.
Probably for the best.
They've got a big metal soccer ball, though.
That's cool.
Easy, easy. Like Rocket League.'s all good. Probably for the best. They've got a big metal soccer ball, though. That's cool. Easy, easy.
Like Rocket League.
Yeah, essentially.
Easy on the sport.
Can we, I mean, hypothetically, we could only get spoiled the way we're doing these movies
if they released a prequel to the first Fast and the Furious and someone watched that and
told us about it.
Arguably, Fast 10 should already be canon absorbed into our experience of watching the Fast and the Furious movies.
I mean, I love where your head's at.
Now that there's a new one set
after the ones you've seen watching in reverse,
you've really boned yourselves in this whole thing.
We're trapped in no man's land.
But that kind of weird chronology
is very true to the Fast universe
as we were discussing in the movie today.
Well, Tim seemed to take all of that information in stride.
Like it wasn't confusing at all.
I could not get my head around what you were talking about.
Well, not that it was confusing, but I knew that there was lots of, actually I did understand
it, but I was aware there's a lot of fucking timelines in this franchise that are going
on.
So we've got films that are separated in terms of release date by years and many movies
in between them that sort of happened simultaneously.
Yes.
So this one you were saying...
You guys were getting confused today,
like how do they know Han died?
Yes.
But that's because another movie that you haven't seen yet...
Is where you see it happen.
You see them get the phone call,
but that happens during the timeline of this movie.
I also keep forgetting the funeral they're at
is Han's funeral.
Who did you think it was?
I was just like, oh, yeah, we're at a fucking funeral.
Okay, whatever.
Well, because there's so many.
Sorry.
Miles from high school.
Because we are going backwards, Joe, this is the thing.
It's like there'll be bits of information where it comes up and I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess that's from five or six or one or three or two or four.
Who's in the control room?
Who's got all of this,
you know,
like who's got this map down in front of them?
Like,
cause the,
the,
the Tokyo drift,
which was the third movie that they made is set either alongside or just
before what we've just watched.
It is,
it is set between six and seven.
That is, I mean, how did they,
how's the confidence to be like making your third movie
and this will be like in the world of the seventh film?
Or is it a case where they made one and two
and then they were like,
now for something really special,
here's lots of years in advance.
And then it went well and they were like,
we can pad some of them between.
No, no, it's it pretty much immediately after the it's not very thoughtful for people who are doing it the way we are it's actually it's disrespectful it's pretty
inconsiderate if you want to consider canon because they never say what year it is um but
like considering like i always base it on the iphone're using. 2 is set in what, 2003?
So Tokyo Drift was made I think 2005 or 2004.
It's set in present day and these happened before that.
What does present day mean?
Well, present day in 2004.
We simply must assume that all of these movies are set around 2003, 2004.
They are the months of July 2003,ust 2003 you know what it's actually it's not um it's quite fortunate that we've immediately
gotten a sort of timeline and trying to map it out because we closed our last episode uh joseph
yes we were trying to solve for i would keep describing her as that scandinavian woman i was
mortified at the start of this movie To discover that Elena is South American
I'm pretty sure
Brazilian
Oh no
I know Brazilian
Because
Because they meet her in Brazil
Spoiler alert
You can meet a Swedish person
In Ghana
What I'm trying to say
Is this
Unheard of
She's got a pretty emotional
Brazilian backstory
Okay
Talk to me about this
Which she doesn't bring up again
F7
Talk to me about this F7 It doesn't bring up again. F7. Talk to me about this.
F7, it's suggested, heavily implied,
that there is a history shared between Vin and Elena.
Yeah.
In F8, Vin discovers, as a catalyst for action in the whole movie,
that Elena has been pregnant with his child and has given
birth to her son yeah their son yeah what is the time what is the timeline we've got to assume that
all 10 movies take the place over about three months but it takes nine months to bake a baby
well okay they take little breaks you know to to go to the Dominican Republic. Which we also just want to button sidebar the Dom and I can Republic,
which I would love to come back to.
But I do really want to try and see if we can get into the actual,
what is a logical solution in terms of the way their romantic dalliance,
the timelines alongside Dom and Letty.
Because I don't understand how they could have tied us a knot.
Look, how much do you want me to get into?
Let's break this down into months, okay?
Okay.
So without spoiling too much about what happens in what you consider to be future films.
Yeah.
Your version of future films.
Dom and Elena meet, I'm going to say January.
Okay.
After Leti suffers amnesia.
Or is assumed dead.
Is assumed dead. You figured that one out. Letitia or Tez. Yeah. After Leti suffers amnesia. Or is assumed dead.
Is assumed dead.
You figured that one out.
Letitia Ortiz.
Yeah, yeah.
They think she's dead.
So he's like,
all right, I've got time to move on.
I'm going to meet this Brazilian babe.
I'm going to hear her harrowing backstory.
Hear her harrowing backstory.
Once only.
Let's say they're boning by February.
Okay.
Fast six So they're broken up by March
Fast seven
Sounds like a James Roque bit
Or a David Gray song
He's got slow release
So they're boning in February
Is that what you're telling me?
No
He's got the lentils of cum
Let him do the math
If anything
It's fast
And furious
So she's making this baby
In three, four months
Yeah, okay
So, okay, March
So they've had sex in February
They're broken up in March
Yeah, but
Come April
Well, come February
And in April you'll have a baby But come April. Well, come February.
And in April you'll have a baby.
So Elaine is pregnant, unknowingly pregnant in this movie.
I got to say, yeah.
She's pregnant the whole movie.
And she's not showing at all. She doesn't know she's pregnant?
And they've just finished having sex before this movie starts.
Yeah, yeah, like right before the credits.
Okay, that's what we...
Right before he goes to race wars.
That seems pretty nasty to Letty
because he's in a car with Letty
at the start of this movie.
He's just finished having sex.
But he would have only just discovered she's alive
because I assume that's what happens at the end of...
I would say he stops having sex with her
about halfway through six.
So you and...
Oh, that's when Letty turns up alive.
I don't want to ruin it for you guys.
Well, you have.
Well done.
You put your fucking foot in it.
No, this is reverse
engineering and this feels important to kind of understand this movie i feel like we can dig a
little bit okay what do you want to know well i'm assuming so just based on all the clues we have
including a little bit of hat tip from you yeah that lady is assumed dead until halfway between
half halfway through six and that's when she turns up alive
so that's the bit and that's gonna be tricky for uh dom isn't it it's gonna be yeah it is
well it would be it would be only made more complicated if he found out that he'd impregnated
his new love and not only that but lady is alive with amnesia and he will find that out
still dead in fast eight three weeks after fast six yeah wow okay so elena is pregnant
the whole time in this movie.
Surely.
She has to be.
She has to be.
Yeah.
But the key to me is that she doesn't know?
Question mark.
Wow.
Is she seen drinking alcohol in this film?
No.
She's seen being blown out of like the seventh story of a building.
Yeah.
And so it's got, I don't know too much about babies, but I think the earlier, the smaller the fetus.
You think the baby grows over the pregnancy?
Yeah, yeah, that's one thing.
But the smaller it is, the more it can sustain.
Bullets?
Yeah, like the further away it is from your skin.
As long as you're cushioned by the rock when you fall onto the car.
I would imagine landing on the rock
Would be harder than landing on a car
Yeah maybe
I don't think there's a lot of give on that body
No
Not a lot of give on a car
But I think you're right
They're pretty tired
You're no better off landing on the rock
If they were to George Lucas
Retrofit these movies
They would put in a scene
Where Elena's throwing up
In the morning on the way to
uh um get blown out of a hospital and yeah so and in between it's nervous about when she visits
um the rock in the hospital there'd be a scene where she quickly nips into another room and
she's yeah yeah and so then give me a in between stirrups out doc yeah it's a stirrup what is she
doing in there what she's going to just pay on What? She's going to the gynecologist.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you think they spot the embryo up the vagina?
I felt like that's what Joe was kind of getting to.
I think I might be pregnant.
I better get to a gynecologist to check.
You know what?
Maybe that's what I thought.
You yell up the vagina.
Echo! Echo!
I know you pee on a stick.
Do you not?
You've had a baby. Do you not like go for
I didn't personally
But go on
Do you know
Do you not go for like a double check
Like a real good
Yeah you go for a scan
It's an ultrasound
You go for a scan
But they do that over the belly
Yeah no stirrups for that one
Are you cabbing
If you want
You can go stirrups
Well it's not even really your call
Okay so
Look the main thing This has become a biology podcast
three of the most unqualified people talking about pregnancy okay so i feel we were right
it's the important yeah yeah i think we cracked it at the end of the last satisfied our quest for
knowledge pertaining to that pregnancy timeline i dive into our notes because I took so many.
This is why, sorry, this is just quickly,
it's why no one in Fast and Furious universe knows about pregnancy or babies.
And that's why it's so important to them that as soon as one of their friend has a child,
they need to remove him from their life.
And never see them again.
Yeah.
And you need to get Charlie Puth and Wiz Khalifa
to write a song about it.
This centers around the fact that
if you take this film in isolation
from the real world events of Paul Walker,
unfortunately dying,
what happens in the Fast and Furious franchise,
a franchise famed for loving nothing but family
at the top of the pyramid of priorities,
as soon as one of them has a kid,
he's like, fuck it out.
You're out.
He's out of here.
Drive away.
I never want to see you again.
And then goes on to name his son after the baby.
Yeah, Dom does.
In remembrance of their friend
who became a father and had to leave.
Tim, you've had a baby,
and I see you probably slightly less.
Well, I was going to say,
you guys mourned my loss
from the friendship group right and if i have a baby i will name it tim little tim to remember
to remember that tim also has a baby who is now a toddler
and and god willing one day i'll be um living in a farm and giving him drills on what to do
if bad guys turn up and where to hide in the trap door. Yeah, yeah.
Now, can I ask you this,
Joey?
When's the last time,
you're a Fast 7 fan,
you think this is the second
best movie in the Fast
and the Furious universe?
I have told you that,
haven't I?
Is that,
do you stand by that?
I think so.
Getting older,
I have,
the early ones
have started to resonate
a little bit more with me.
Pure nostalgia?
It's the simplicity of the storytelling.
God, I'm looking forward to that.
And when you go back, the escalation was so fun,
but when the allure of that escalation is gone
and you look at them as a whole, as an individual piece,
one is pretty goddamn solid. Right. if it were me i'd watch it
as many times as i could well not the path we took not the path we've chosen yeah but so when's the
last time before today that you'd seen fast seven i've probably seen fast seven all up in my life
eight times i'd say wow i probably just beat you yeah and this I do own the Blu-ray.
I think the last time I would have been the first lockdown when I watched.
You did all of them.
I did all of them with my beautiful wife.
Could I ask you a quick, sorry, Guy.
Did you take a night off between screenings?
Absolutely.
That was a week.
Can I ask you a Blu-ray question?
Yeah.
Do you watch the Blu-rays of stuff that you own?
Yeah.
Do you see the difference between streaming stuff And Blu-ray
Yeah I think so
I think it
Well not necessarily actually
Because streaming can be in 4K
Sometimes in Blu-rays
What if we got
1080p
It's way shit of 4K though
Yeah
What if we got identical screens up
And you guys didn't know
I could absolutely
Joe and I would be able
To tell instantly
Which one was the Blu-ray
We're a couple of movie hogs
Instantly
You reckon
100%
I'd put money on it I would put money on it too Would you like I'll lend you the Blu-ray We're a couple of movie hogs Instantly You reckon? A hundred percent I'd put money on it
I would put money on it too
Would you like
I'll lend you the Blu
I've got
I've got the rest
I don't have a Blu-ray player
I don't have a Blu-ray player
I've got a
PS4 I never use
You can have that
What
Who's this guy
Throwing away Blu-rays
And PS4's
He's a man who loves entertainment
Absolutely
He appreciates entertainment
Not that much
I've done about
I'd say
Six to seven hours research
Including Excel spreadsheets This year On Ditching streaming services appreciates entertainment. I've done about, I'd say, six to seven hours research,
including Excel spreadsheets this year,
on ditching streaming services and going to a...
You've got a spreadsheet for this?
Well, I'm just like,
how much am I spending annually on spreadsheets?
Oh my God, run me through those.
On spreadsheets.
How much am I spending on spreadsheets?
I've got Excel Pro.
How much am I spending on streaming services
if I ditched all of them
and gave myself a budget
for how many movies I'd like to watch a year
if I just bought them?
Or went to the cinema.
Yeah, and just kind of add that.
You're losing TV if you do that.
You are, but I don't know.
Is there any good TV?
Some of it's all right.
Have you seen Guy Montgomery's Guy Maud Spellingbird?
Actually, you get that for free.
Yeah, you do, exactly.
I mean, there are ways of obtaining the odd thing, and then you just, you buy things.
Talk about these ways of obtaining.
I mean, I simply couldn't.
But it involves God's eye.
You've got to hack into a CCTV footage above someone else's TV.
Hack into a webcam.
See on a reflection
someone's playing
Tokyo Drift.
You remember when you used to,
I remember like watching
an illegal download
of Scary Movie 2
and it's clearly
someone just set up a camera
and a tripod in a cinema.
Yeah, hat cams.
Seeing like the silhouettes
of people standing up
and like walking.
Man, we need to bring back
the dark art of hat cams
because some of them
were pretty good
and I believe that
like in America somewhere
there were places where you could plug headphones in because people were getting good audio in those hat cams because some of them were pretty good and i believe that like in america somewhere there were places where you could plug headphones in because people were getting good audio in those
hat yeah a lot of them come from the projection booth people pay off them and get the feed from
the audio uh i remember some i have formative experiences with some of those things a camera
of super bad that i downloaded before it came out. I watched so many times and it had the audience laughing in it,
but it just made it.
Even better.
I just saw how hard it was hitting with that room and I was so excited.
And it eventually came out in the cinemas and I went and watched it
with a dog shit New Zealand audience.
You're like, you fucking philistines.
You don't appreciate what you're watching here.
I mean, you were laughing at all all the You were hitting all the same laughs
Me and the guys in Minnesota
Love this scene
You guys have it all wrong
We've crossed off the timeline thing
Which was my top priority
We need to
Before we forget
I think by the end of this
I would like to see a calendar from you guys
And just condense this down as tight as it possibly could be.
How many days is each thing taking?
How many days do you think this movie is set across?
Furious 7.
Oh, that's a fun one.
Yeah.
Honestly, like 10.
10 days?
I reckon about a week and a half.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because they do travel a bit.
Dom says he's going to, what does he say?
He's going to London, but he goes via.
No, he goes, he's like, I'm going to Los Angeles.
And the next thing you know, you see Dom in Tokyo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's so funny.
So Race Wars is on a Monday.
Yeah.
That's the start of the movie.
Yeah.
Well, the start of the movie is maybe on a Sunday night when Deckard Shaw is in London
blowing up a hospital.
Oh, that's true.
But that could be happening simultaneously Because that's in the UK
Yeah
And then you've got Race Wars
Race Wars is going on
From Race Wars
That night
They go to the graveyard
And then the next day
Dom is visiting Mia
And then the next day
It's the morning
And Brian's dropping
So we're on Monday
So now we're on Tuesday
Tuesday
No because you said Race Wars on Sunday? No no Deckard Shaw's on. So we're on Monday. So now on Tuesday. Tuesday.
No because you said race was on Sunday.
No no.
Dekachur's on Sunday
night.
Race was on Monday.
Why aren't they
happening at the same
time?
Dekachur needs time to
go to Japan and kill
Han real quick.
Oh that's a point.
Oh yeah true.
So he has to get from
the UK to Tokyo.
Race was on Monday.
I reckon he hightails
it though.
He goes out of the
hospital into a plane.
Yeah.
To get to Tokyo. So call that 12 hours. Wow. No but we know because I don't know if you remember the opening. That into a plane. Yeah. To get to Tokyo.
So call that 12 hours.
We know because I don't know if you remember the opening.
That's a 12-hour flight.
You've got to check in two hours before the plane leaves.
He's flying private.
He used to be SAS.
He's got a really nice apartment in London that we see at the start of Hobson Shore.
I just can't imagine after a big night like that blowing a hospital up,
he's not going to go out, get on the piss, have sex with some floozy,
as is his want
and then wake up
the next morning
pull himself a pint of bitter
at the local pub
then he's getting on the plane
to Tokyo to kill her
Tuesday it is
you're right
okay
then on Tuesday
the family house blows up
and they will get
wait wait
but he's got to mail the bomb
from Tokyo
after he kills Han
we assume he's paying
for express
yes
but that's 48 hours
at least I'd say three days at a Yeah But that's 48 hours At least
I'd say three days
At a minimum
Really
That's not on a plane
That's on a boat
What do you mean
To get through security
You've got to
Sneak that onto a
Shipping container right
Because it's an explosive
Yeah
You're right
How far can a helicopter
So that's six weeks
Well we've fucked it
And Elena should be Show showing by now yeah exactly
in between that and when the bomb arrives it's uh is captain phillips
well if they had a camera on the boat there's the boat with the bomb on it driven to the u.s
is going this way and then there's another boat going the other way and if they film the camp you
know sometimes in movies it's like the camera captures the this way and then there's another boat going the other way and if they film the camera you know sometimes in movies
it's like the camera
captures the action happening
and then you follow that camera
onto the other boat
then you're in Captain Phillips
I don't know how we get back
to Fast and the Furious
I think a few things
can be solved by the fact
that Deckard Shaw
is very well connected
in the criminal underworld
and so I think he can get that
by air
call that 54 hours
two and a half days
so it's on the doorstep thursday
thursday thursday evening although it's very bright out and we see brian take that's the
morning no it's another morning he's taking he's taking him to the school the day before so it's
got to be a weekday we started monday okay i reckon it's thursday the bomb is at the house
okay thursday yeah so then the bomb explodes Then we Are going to
Well Dom's going to Tokyo right
That's a 12 hour
Not from LA
LA it's like flying from here to Perth I reckon
You can get there on the same day roughly the same time
Yeah but more like a 9 hour flight
LA to Tokyo
I'm going to call it 7
I think the time zone works against you
I think it's 7 Hawaii to Tokyo Have'm going to call it 7 I think the time zone works against you when you go I think it's 7 Hawaii
to Tokyo
have you
I looked this up
I was in Hawaii
and there's a
large number of
Japanese tourists
and I was like
oh is it
for some reason
I was stupid
and I was like
it must be close
that's why
what's our later Hawaii
3?
3 hours?
our later Hawaii is 5
5?
ok 5 plus 7
12 if it's a direct
so call it twelve
So now we're Thursday
So Friday night
He's in
Japan
To meet up with Lucas Black
Cool
So that's Friday night
Taking care of
Yes also
Why is he there again
We know a little bit
Of what he does
Oh through
Tokyo Drift
Through Tokyo Drift
That Texan guy
Dom he's got to have
A quick race
Oh my god While he's there Well have a quick race. Oh, my God.
While he's there.
Well, that adds another fucking day.
So with that line he says, because there is a little, I've always noticed that.
He says, damn, I knew you were fast.
And he says, who says American power can't drift?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, so they've just had a race.
Yeah, yeah.
Is that satisfying as a fan of the franchise watching it in the traditional order?
To know what that race was all about?
Yeah.
Is it?
That was exciting, yeah.
Will it hit the same for us?
No.
Okay, we'll take a break from the timeline to ask,
do you see any merits in the way that we're doing this as a fan of the franchise?
I guess as a social experiment.
Is there any way we could unearth or experience something in a way that you wish you could have um like one of the things that's always i love about this franchise
is the worst idea of all time um yeah yeah and and in another way the um fast and furious the uh
is their commitment to canon and and the way that they will retroactively unpack everything
or pack everything to make it all work when they don't need to.
They could have forgotten Tokyo Drift existed.
And so I guess there might be something satisfying to look at that
and feel like this was all supposed to happen.
It's like reading a detective novel backwards.
Yeah.
And often detective novels are novel backwards. Yeah. Yeah.
And often detective novels are written backwards.
Yeah.
But they're traditionally read forwards.
Friday, Tokyo.
Not in Israel.
No?
No.
Where is it?
Are you going left and right to left?
The places that read... Yeah, that's Arabic and Japanese.
I think you're right.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So, Friday...
Not in Tokyo.
That's why that movie's out of order.
Nice, nice, nice, nice.
We're in Tokyo.
It's Friday night.
Yes.
We've had a race, which transpires in fulsome form in Tokyo Drift, but that's by the by.
That happens, and then...
So, what is he there to get?
That is confusing. That is confusing. then, so what is he there to get? That is confusing.
So then we go from Japan.
So Dom now travels from Japan on Friday.
So he stays over that night.
And he goes home for a funeral.
And then on Saturday, he's back for a funeral.
The funeral is maybe at the earliest Sunday evening.
No, it's in the day because it's light out.
Well, is he back in time for that?
Is it like DeRican Sunday day?
He's on a red-eye.
Fuck, man.
He gets off the plane.
He doesn't have a lot of sleep, eh?
This is all out of sorts.
Okay, Sunday's at the funeral.
I'm surprised he can drive that well on so much plane sleep.
And how many Coronas does he have in the plane?
Fucking heaps, man.
He drank the plane dry of Coronas.
I hate the way he drinks his beers.
We'll get to it.
We won't.
I have to say it now
or we won't.
He holds them,
he clenches the neck
by the fist
which just warms the neck.
It means by the time
any of the beer is getting
out of the bottle
into your mouth,
it's warm.
It's one of the most ridiculous.
Okay, no,
I disagree with this.
He has a big hand
and I'm going to guess
a hot hand.
Now,
if he's holding
that Corona by the body of it, you know, not the, if he's holding that Corona
by the body of it,
you know,
not the neck,
he's warming that whole beer
in what,
one,
two minutes?
You don't have to hold,
you don't have to have
your hand closed
around everything you touch.
By swinging,
by sending,
by sending.
This is how Dom Toretto texts.
Maybe.
And let the record state,
Guy is holding
his arm fully
extended with a
phone in it.
By holding it
in the neck,
he's sending the
liquid quickly
through that neck,
giving it the
least amount of
time.
Have you ever
drunk a beer like
that?
No.
Why not?
Because my hand's
cold.
But why else not?
Because I'm a normal guy.
Yeah.
But Dom isn't normal.
If you've got a big hot hand.
Yeah.
Sunday funeral.
Yeah.
He's a standoff with Stath on the Sunday.
Yes.
He meets Mr. Nobody.
Mr. Nobody takes him away.
So that's that night, Sunday night.
Is that underground fight with Stath?
Sunday through Monday.
So on Monday, Monday afternoon at the latest, they're heading to azerbaijan oh fuck i forgot we're going to
abu dhabi later yeah god okay so so we've had a week now we've had this is the one now we don't
need to worry about airport stuff because by now they've got full military support yeah they've
got the cia support through mr nobody so we assume they're on like military no checks we're good yeah
so this is like fast travel in games
Yeah
They're straight to Azerbaijan
But still
What's that flight?
Come on
I'm going to say
I'm going to say eight hours
Cool
Yeah
Especially I feel like military stuff
Could go quicker too
Who's using the Concorde at the moment?
They retired those
After they crashed
Nah
Mr. Nobody's got access to everything
He's got a Concorde
You reckon he's got a concord
every time you see mr nobody's walking through some huge warehouse with like 30 cars it'd be
so funny to me if it was a supersonic passenger jet rather than like a stealth you know modern
day if the 35 or whatever so they get they got they got another they i mean they they drop into
azerbaijan yeah okay so eight hours so Hold on, sorry. We'll keep tracking.
So Monday night, Azerbaijan.
Maybe sleep it off.
It's very broad daylight when the party's going on.
Are they staying the night in Azerbaijan?
Is that where they get the car?
Is that Azerbaijan?
Or is that Abu Dhabi?
That's where they meet Ramsey.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think they're loading those cars onto that military jet in California where the base is.
At nightfall, they arrive in Azerbaijan by day.
And they're flying straight to Azerbaijan.
So they arrive at Monday midday.
At midday on Monday, they are jumping out of the plane.
Like LA local.
We'll kind of track everything in LA local.
Yeah, so it could be like.
So Monday day, they land.
So it's taking them a week to get there.
Pacific time.
Yeah, Pacific time.
So then. Pretty standard time
Or is it PSTD?
Is it post-traumatic stressful disorder time?
They go from
Azerbaijan to Abu Dhabi
Which, I'm going to say
Four hours, I have no idea
They're there by Tuesday
Right on the east of Europe
They're there by Tuesday And Right on the east of Europe.
They're there by Tuesday, and they get straight into the party.
And that party's having a good time.
So Tuesday day, they get it out.
How quick is Ramsey to roll with the punches?
She's been kidnapped.
She gets rescued on Monday night.
And by Tuesday, she is an integral member of the party. On Tuesday night, they're giving.
So on Tuesday night, they're giving God's Eye to Mr. Nobody.
A three-hour flight From Baku
To Abu Dhabi
I've got it here
Tuesday night
They're giving God's eye
To Mr. Nobody
And then that means
At dawn
We're going to attack
Deckard Shaw
So that means
By Wednesday
4am
Wednesday morning
That's the ambush
So they don't successfully
Execute the ambush
Wednesday am
Shaw winds up
With God's eye.
They're still in Abu Dhabi.
And then they go back to America.
So then on Thursday.
So we're looking at another kind of.
A day.
Seven, eight hour flight.
Plus they all got kind of fucked up.
Like give them 36 hours at least.
No.
They don't rest.
Well, okay.
They have a sleep.
On the plane they get a little sleep.
They come back.
When they're not talking about the value of family on the plane.
Are we now on the second Thursday back in LA?
Yeah.
So we're like 10 days in now.
And you said 10 at the start, but we're going to push it out over 10.
I think we're going to wind up looking at about a fortnight.
Yeah.
How long between arriving in LA and the drone flight?
Oh, it's pretty much straight away.
Yeah, I think it's that night.
They arrive in LA that morning. They look over the city, and they're like, it's the city. You're right, I think it's that night. They arrive in LA that morning, they
look over the city
and they're like,
it's the city.
You're right, because
that's the daytime bit
where they have the
speech and then
Letty gets her memory
back when she gets
triggered with that
beautiful shot that I
think I mentioned in
the last episode with
LA downtown skyline
in the background and
Letty and Dom in the
foreground.
So you said, we're
going Monday to
Wednesday here, you
said 10 days, we
probably could have
skipped this and just
gone, you're about
right, Tim.
No, because then they successfully said we're going Monday to Wednesday here you said 10 days we probably could have skipped this and just gone you're about right Tim no because
it's important
to show you're
working
on the flight so
then they successfully
take back Los Angeles
and control the world
overnight
oh and then they
go to the beach
is this Wednesday
or Thursday night
it's Thursday night
and then they go to
the beach
yeah so that's a
and this is they're
chilled out now
they're not taking
the military jet
they're back on
commercial
they're still taking
they're taking
is the beach in
California or is it
yeah that looks
it's suggested it's not I thought they might be back in like the Dominican Republic They're back on commercial. They're still taking it. Is the beach in California? Yeah, that looks west coast to me.
It's suggested.
I thought they might be back in like...
The Dominican Republic?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you reckon?
Nah, it's in New California.
To me it always read,
because we've been to like...
We went to a lovely beach
on the Pacific Coast Highway once.
Yeah.
Where was that?
It was in California somewhere.
It looked like that to me.
It looked like the Pacific.
You'll learn that so many fast movies
end in a holiday. They'll fucking earn it, man. Yeah, yeah. It looked like the Pacific. You'll learn this. So many fast movies end in a holiday.
Don't fucking earn it, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Every time you earn it.
Fast 8 starts on a holiday in Cuba.
Yeah, yeah.
So I just always imagined that poignant final scene was somewhere in the-
No, because if they're on a small island and then Dom's like,
I'm feeling emotional.
I'm going to leave.
Oh, yeah.
And then they're back together at the airport.
We're like, they're all staying at the same place.
Yeah, it doesn't work.
Seems like the breakfast buffet.
Can I just say this?
Can't make eye contact.
I heard you say goodbye.
I really enjoyed doing the math on that.
That was really fun.
That was really fun.
I hope the listeners enjoyed it.
That was a cool thing to figure out.
Listener, please.
Listener, we've just got one.
They are staunch Republican.
It'll be interesting to see how this year goes for them.
Republican? Dominic-an Republic. Yeah. Listener, we've just got one And they are staunch Republican It'll be interesting to see how this year goes for them Dominican?
Dominican Republic Yeah, well it's just
I don't know if there's a relationship
There probably is and you can probably unpack it for us
But the way I've read it is
Dom, when he realises what's going on
And he needs to hide Mia and the family
While Brian's coming back to the non-traditional family
Which is the Fast and the Furious family
He sends Mia to the the non-traditional family which is the the fast and the furious family uh
he sends mia to the dominican republic and it comes up on screen as dominican republic but
it's impossible not to read it as the dominant i can republic and my assumption is that dom
due to his sort of limited intellectual understanding of you know geopolitics and
also the world is like it's my one whenever i need to, I've got a safe haven there.
And the dominant I can republic.
It's a safe house.
He sends anyone who he needs to keep safe there.
And that's where they go.
Check it off.
It's that nice.
All his globetrotting was based just on places
that have similar names to him and the family.
We're going to Latvia.
Nice.
For you, lady. we're going to Latvia nice for you lady
they should have sent me
to Miami
yeah and they should be
spending a lot more time
in Rome
am I right
and at the Tej Mahal
and in Agra India
and Brian
Brianstown
where's Brianstown
I don't know
somewhere there
oh there's a big event there
I know about that
Because of the
Bryan Jonestown
No you're thinking of Jonestown
I'm thinking of the
Bryan Jonestown
Massacre
There's a band called
The Bryan Jonestown Massacre
There's a band named after the event
Yeah
Hey how do I find this
Red carpet footage guys?
Oh yeah
I'll just go filter by like
Look up F10 red carpet cocaine
Well way to spoil it.
There's a fantastic clip, everybody.
Well, while you're doing that, and again,
without sort of, you know, while dancing around the particulars,
you went to the cinema to experience F10.
F10.
How excited were you?
Really, I was really excited.
I had been a busy boy, and it was my first kind of day off
in like a couple of months properly,
and I was really excited for it.
How long is it?
Two hours and 20?
Oh, yeah.
It's chunky.
It's chunky.
I'm going to say closer to 240.
Yeah?
Okay.
They made the little mermaid reboot two hours and 20.
Yeah.
Every movie's...
I don't know.
When cinema is dying, and you're trying to make as much money as possible off these things,
make it shorter.
Get more screenings going.
You charge the same amount per ticket.
I don't know what the hell
they're doing
220 seems like they're trying though
because we had an era
of 3 hour films
and I blame Peter Jackson
for that quite frankly
and it feels like
we are pulling back away
from that now
some movies are getting
I don't hate a long movie
how long's Oppenheimer
that feels like
it's going to be long
it's 3 plus
how long's Barbie
2 hours 20
no it's not
I've seen people today on social media celebrating
the differential in length between those two films.
So I think Barbie's going to be a mercenary.
It's so funny the way the release dates have been.
It's Oppenheimer versus Barbie, basically.
Everyone knows it's both.
You've got to go both in the same day.
What was the last bit of what you said
about Barbie versus Oppenheimer's duration?
I've heard that Barbie...
Is shorter?
When I say heard, I've seen people go, OMG, the Barbie length.
Like it's long?
No, I think people are praising that it's going to be an immersively short film.
Maybe two Barbies per Fast X.
I can't find this fucking clip.
God, if it's been scrubbed, I'll be gutted.
I'll add cocaine
Why don't you keep asking Joseph about
Fast X while I'll see if I can
Dig it up for you
Someone interview me
Fast X where did it
Now you actually made a revelation which I'm going to get you to repeat
On the pod
You are a Letterboxd reviewer
You have an account
I've been absent for about the last year But I jumped back in
To review Fast X
And what did you give it Joe?
I gave it two stars
How many movies
Have you given two stars to Joe?
Not many man
I think
I think I've hit
My limit with this franchise
And it didn't actually
Make me worry about
Coming back today
To watch Seven
Because I'm like
Maybe I'm just over
The whole thing
Maybe it's time to
I think in my Letterboxd review
I said maybe it's time
For me to find a new thing
Right I've based too much On my personality Around loving these films I feel the same way maybe it's time to I think in my Letterboxd review I said maybe it's time for me to find a new thing right
I've based too much
on my personality
around loving these films
I feel the same way
I feel like Guy and I
need to find a new thing
but go on
yeah
but it just didn't
didn't work
the looniness
and there's some things
that work
Jason Momoa
is probably the most
interesting villain
they've had in a while
just because he's so silly
and he's in a different movie
and it's fun to just watch him be silly
in a different movie.
Okay.
But none of,
the stakes,
there's no stakes.
You might just have to put the mic up to the thing
because I forgot to plug the thing in.
I'll continue to listen to Joe.
It actually brings me back to something
that made this movie,
Seven,
I think interesting.
There's no stakes whatsoever it um fast x ends on this like stupid unearned cliffhanger um was the beginning of the end of the fast side yeah yeah but it's like oh well
which is ultimately without giving too many details will dom die right now in the second
it's like no we know he won't.
And I was saying to you guys during the screening,
that's what kind of made Seven an incredible movie experience because when I saw it in the cinema,
we knew this was Paul Walker's last movie.
You knew he'd passed.
We knew he'd passed.
This gave us this interesting lens to watch the movie through
and we didn't know how they were going to deal with it. And genuinely thought at multiple i didn't know how much of the movie that shot
without him and there were multiple points throughout the film where i was like is this
where they're going to kill off walker everyone thought they'd kill off the character yeah so
like when he was running across that bus yeah and that's like in the first third of the movie yeah
i was like shit that would have been this is how they're going to do it would have been a beautiful
um sense of euphoric relief
and release when he successfully runs up, jumps onto the car,
and survives it.
Yeah, it was great.
And it made that ending hit so hard because no one thought
they were going to do that.
You welled up today for the end.
Look, it's almost manipulative.
It's not a real movie.
Real movies don't see off a character who didn't die
and then just show a montage of other movies.
It's like a slideshow at a funeral.
But, Warg, that's what...
I mean...
It is.
There's no...
You guys were saying there's no world in which that context isn't...
At least, at worst, peripherally available to the viewer.
What I was saying is that you guys said it doesn't make sense...
Can you lean back just because you're going to be out of focus
with the camera guy?
I'm trying to make eye contact with you, bro.
I appreciate you.
What I was saying, because you guys said,
this movie has such an unearned ending
to have a character that's still alive
have this big montage.
If you divorce it from the context of the actor died,
but there's no person alive who sees this movie.
That's not a context. They just didn't divorce it from there, and I alive who sees this movie. Like that's not a context.
They just didn't divorce it from there.
And I think that's great.
I think that's great too.
The other thing they could have done
is finished it as scripted.
Which is?
Like whatever it was,
it would have just been,
they all high five at the end
and then just, he's not in the future.
Nah, I so far and away prefer this.
No, exactly.
I think so.
Oh, right.
I remember,
I read something,
I think it was on Screen Rant.
I can't remember if I brought it.
I must have brought it up on the podcast.
And this might have been retrofitted to qualify the way it was ended.
But they were sort of framing it so that it was going to be a
will he or won't he come back to the family just because he did.
It was already inside of the script suggested that Paul Walker's character
might not feature in the next film because he was being pulled away by the responsibility of his family life.
But, like, do you think when Vin Diesel, when they're on that flight in the middle of this 11-day world-saving bender, do you think when he says to Paul Walker, you know, the bravest thing I've seen you do is be a good man to Mia and stuff. Do you think that was written in the original script
or do you think that's retrofitted to try and –
I reckon they beefed up that stuff hard, surely.
There was that lengthy phone call with Brian and Mia
where they're just talking about fatherhood
and she's kind of way more teary than he is.
I didn't realise, but once you mentioned it,
that they backfilled and a bunch of stuff to sort of beef up that tension.
I'm like, oh yeah, of course.
Because as I told you when we were watching, I was like,
man, what a crazy coincidence that they had this incredibly evocative
and emotional storyline about him potentially being drawn out of the family
to, you know, heir to his responsibilities.
And you were like, yeah, they added some stuff in. Once you're like yeah they i think it's a natural
once you give the character a kid it's a natural arc to take him through how is how is he going to
balance being a father and does he find fatherhood more important than saving the world well do they
explore that in fast x with dom because he's got a fucking kid oh yeah no he gets his kid right in
there is little b helping out how is little B? Lil B is a major character in Fast 9. Is he?
Is he?
That must mean that a lot of time has passed between Fast 9 and Fast 10.
Not the traditional month.
There is a huge buddy comedy pairing between Lil B and John Cena.
And it's stupid.
Oh, got it.
Because that could be good.
Well, in the meantime
Please enjoy this tweet
Sorry
But we didn't get a direct answer
Roughly ballpark
How old is little B in Fast Eats?
Oh like 12
Okay
What the fuck is going on?
Fascinating
I think that the
I think he
Jeez
I think he might have that disease
That Robin Williams has in Jack
Yes
I think
Like the pregnancy came on
Either very late or very
quickly and then he was born and then all of a sudden he just
exploded out of it
If he's 12
it does explain
a way
it catches up to
modern day considering all these other movies are set in 2004
But everyone
else has been trapped in amber in terms of
their look and physicality.
And it does explain how they can be friends with Cypher now.
Because enough time has passed.
Live from the red carpet of Fast 10 in Rome, with the caption,
Jesus, they're coked out of their fucking gourds.
It's Pugmane, M-A-N-E.
Please enjoy Vin Diesel
And Tyrese Gibson
Fast 10
Is this going to be the biggest and best one yet?
It's going to be the biggest
And best one yet
And in so many ways it's going to be the biggest and best one yet
In some ways
It's just the fact that we're continuing
In some ways the fact that we're continuing
A saga and we have incredible
talent like Tyrese Gibson that live and breathe the role of Roman and because of Roman we decided
to do our premiere in Rome get it Rome Roman it's all because of Roman beers! We're gonna go to Rome! I got an idea, I got an idea!
Went through the world premiere at Rome!
Rome!
See what happens when they get together?
The decisions being made in rooms that I'm not in.
Give me a hug, man.
I love you, man.
You too, Roman.
I love you.
They're brothers.
I love you.
That's all you need to know.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Well, we're all part of the same miracle.
We're all part of the same miracle.
We're heading to Rome.
We're all part of the same miracle.
Maybe we should go to Rome.
Maybe we should go to Rome.
Maybe we should go to Rome.
Maybe we should go to Rome. Maybe we should go to Rome. Maybe we should go to Rome. Maybe we should go to Rome. Maybe all you need to know. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Well, we're all part of the same miracle.
We're all part of the same miracle.
We're heading to Rome.
We're all part of the same miracle.
Man, legalize all drugs.
The first comment underneath this, don't accuse Vin.
Because when I watched it, I assumed they were both on MDMA,
but I think Tyrese is on MDMA and Vin's on coke
and I applaud
both of them
they've earned it
they've got the weight
of the big old franchise
on their shoulders
especially Vin
whatever Tyrese is on
looks quality
what you do not hear
in that video
is him in the background
waving his arms
through time and space
as though he can
literally feel
the particles
god damn
he's also like literally draped around Vin Diesel,
hugging him for the first 20 seconds.
That's so nice.
It is nice.
Just dudes hanging out a little bit,
chemically enhanced,
just like celebrating a success,
having a wonderful time together.
I'm here for it in a big way.
Why wouldn't you be?
I think it's really cool.
And I hope no one gets in trouble for it.
No one's getting in trouble for that.
No, I hope not.
Well, apart from getting the illegal drug to you.
All of Hollywood is on coke the whole time,
and it's something we don't talk about enough
when we talk about crazy celebrities.
I think you're right, man.
Every time any celebrity does something crazy in the news,
it's like they're all on cocaine.
Cocaine is prevalent enough in, small shitty versions of the industry that, you know, that we see.
Yeah.
Like, how much must they have when they have infinite money and connections?
Like, every time, obviously, the guy has, like, mental health problems as well.
But, like, every time you see Kanye West, like, do his crazy thing, they're like, wow, this this guy's nuts. Like this guy's on a lot of cocaine all the time.
Yeah.
And that's,
I find that frustrating because it's like,
you know,
all the wrong people get in trouble for it.
And then there's all these other people who are just like on it all the time.
Scott free,
no problem.
Yeah.
And that's why it's important for us to celebrate drugs because,
you know,
if it's good for the goose,
it's good for the gander.
So. Legalize everything. Is that you goose, it's good for the gander.
Legalize everything.
Is that you, Tim?
Here's my shining light.
It is Mr. Nobody, portrayed by the legendary Kurt Russell,
when he first meets Dominic Toretto,
who has been taking on the state single-handedly. They call him Kurt Russell,
but I think he's got quite an easygoing manner.
Thanks, mate. It is with a Russell, but I think he's got quite an easygoing manner. Thanks, mate.
It is with a K.
I was about eight seconds after that being a worthy contribution,
but I had to get it out.
Hey, you want to know something?
It was funny, and I enjoyed it.
Back yourself.
That's so nice.
So Dom and Mr. Nobody have met for the first time
Because Mr. Nobody's men have just parachuted in to actually save Dom's ass
Because he's about to get killed by Stace
Because Stace pulls out a gun at a knife fight
You want evidence that Dominic Toretto isn't sleeping on those flights between countries?
The fact that his battle strategy when he comes across Jason Statham
Is to drive his car at full speed directly
That was Stace's plan too, though.
Deckard Shaw did the exact same thing.
Two guys that know how to fight.
Yeah, it's true.
So anyway, all of this craziness happens.
Deckard Shaw runs away in the chaos
and Dom doesn't know who these fucking guys are.
So he like kind of takes out a couple guys real quick, smart,
grabs another as a hostage
because there's a lot of guns floating around
of people he doesn't know. uh and and and then mr nobody comes out cool as all hell with
sunglasses on in a subterranean environment with no natural light and says hey dom uh think you
can let my guy go he's he's beginning to turn a little blue and it's just like the the cadence
the delivery the confidence the swagger
the Kurt Russell-ness
of the delivery
they should call him
Willie Loman
because that man
can sell anything
I don't know who
Willie Loman is
he's the salesman
he's one of the great
American tragic figures
oh from Death of a Salesman
oh okay wow
I've seen that live
and I didn't even
quit to that
Circa Theatre
I think I saw it
overseas somewhere
oh okay
because I'm a cultured man
Who remembers nothing
You haven't seen Death of a Salesman
Until you've seen it mounted in Hobart, Tasmania
Anyway, that rocked
Shining light from you
It's a shame to say goodbye to this movie
I'm very excited for the next chapter in our journey
But there were two shining lights
One of them I said out loud To you guys guys i can't actually remember exactly what the moment was but the other one i
wrote down which is vin diesel's line when he's talking to that young texan boy uh in tokyo and a
part of the space i'm continuing i don't understand but he says what are you going to do when you find
the guy who did this and vin diesel says words ain't even been invented yet and i just think i think they have i just think maybe you
don't know them i think maybe you don't have access to the words yet i was just i don't think
like i think whatever you do no matter how creative there was a way to
and what does he do to him? Sends him to prison.
An incredibly orthodox way of dealing with a criminal.
The word jail doesn't quite encompass where I want to put this man.
I want to put him in a room with bars,
and there ain't no word for that.
I know there is one spelling that begins with a G,
but that doesn't please me.
I want a new modernized spelling of that word.
With a J, so it's worth more in Scrabble.
Speaking of Js, Joseph Moore, do you have a shining light? Shining light, I think it's nice to be reminded
of what I think is the best butt movie in the franchise.
Oh, is it the best butt woman?
Yes.
One of the funniest things from this season, I'm sorry to interrupt,
was you saying butt woman and Guy saying we just call them women now.
Have I talked about the butts before?
A little bit.
Oh, fuck, I'm sorry.
I sound like a real creep.
No, because we don't know sort of the, like,
cultural pillar that they occupy within this franchise.
And you are well-versed in the butt woman.
And not to be, you know, not to be a creepazoid,
but they're just, they're, like, they're prominent butts.
Yeah, yeah.
I've noticed them a lot more since you pointed them out.
This movie, the butts are on.
And also because I feel like they might be.
John Cena's introduction
introduced a little bit of a butt gentleman.
Well, I wonder if they've turned the volume down on the butts
as society has perhaps moved forward.
We haven't seen Fast X.
Yes, absolutely.
No, I can't remember too prominent a butt in Fast X.
Yeah, so just great to see the butts. Is that your shining light, though? No, my shining light. Because that is a creep thing, too. Yeah, yeah just great, great to be, great to see the butts.
Is that your shining light though?
No,
my shining light.
Because that is a creep thing too.
Yeah,
yeah,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
I just wanted to shout out the butts.
Okay.
And,
and the butt women,
Jesus Christ.
The,
those butt women better get,
get up in the stirrups.
Find out who the babies are.
Some of those butt women are about to become butt moms
Fuck
Do you think the baby's growing in the butt?
That's why they're so big
The shining light
One cheek's got the skull pressed up against it
And the other one's got the baby's butt pressed up against it
Someone get these butt women to a gynecologist.
I think they might be a little pregnant.
The highlight for me is the music choice
during the pipe and wrench fight.
Oh, the classical.
Oh, yeah.
The O Fortuna diet.
Yeah, the score, I think it's Brian Tyler
or someone of his ilk. it's it's kind of
it's fine it's it's not too flashy the whole movie it's kind of pulsing strings yeah kind of
some electronica beats just synthy yeah yeah um but they're just for a moment they have a full
choir yeah um as two guys probably do one of the least epic things in the film which is
whack each other with pipes um look it's shot epic but like in terms of the content okay you
know i've just i've just remembered my other shining light i have to say quickly before we
continue talking about the wrench fight it's the shot of brian it's when brian's fighting the guy
whose name you know no it's his parkour his parkour yeah, and there's a shot of Brian at the bottom of a stairwell
and the camera does this sort of like
almost anime style zoom out
where it's like you see the,
crash zoom out
and it comes out
and you see that he's at the bottom
of the stairwell
and it's,
I haven't spoken about it
but I really like it.
It's a real comedy camera move
to do the crash zoom.
I think the thing,
they usually go in rather than out.
The thing with the wrenches
that makes it interesting
is that
they've shown that they can do anything.
And it's like Jason Statham's basically married to explosive device in this movie.
And then in his most important, significant fight.
But this is the whole, that's why that fight works so well.
Because in the first one, he pulled out a gun, effectively a knife fight.
And this time, he has come to respect Dom Toretto as an equal and will fight
him on his terms.
There you go.
This is the growth.
So maybe it doesn't,
sure.
Whether or not it earns the musical cue,
the musical cue.
Enhanced.
Just,
just comes out of nowhere.
And I love it.
It is really good and noticeable.
And I always thought it was a bonafide classical piece.
It is like that.
It maybe,
it maybe is.
It's definitely the,
or something
it's definitely maybe a kind of a moment in the franchise where the franchise knows
that it's on a par with like marvel or whatever like this is a cultural moment this isn't just
the kind of cool fun um car chase series like this is this is a life or death thing this is demigods fighting
yeah yeah the fate of good versus evil because you know they are they are superheroes essentially
yeah at this point there when do you think that happened joe in the franchise that they became
superheroes or superhuman seven seven is when they kind of six is when they defy death Probably Too hard
Too hard
Okay
And seven is when
They kind of
Become invincible
Jason Statham gets crushed
By a car park building
And then shows up
One month later
In F8
Good point
And The Rock says
Somebody tell me
Why this
Tea drinking
Crumpled eating
Sambitch
Is doing in my movie
I think we should all
improvise a line of dialogue
that The Rock might say
in a Fast and Furious universe
and then we'll get out of here
I think he'd say something like this
someone please explain to me
what all of these people
actually I've lost confidence
I don't know if we need to do
the voice
who
we need to pick
and we can't
this is on us to be sensitive
we need to pick a culture that the person he on us to be sensitive we need to pick a culture
that the person he doesn't like is from yeah very good yeah okay why so he says this it says
someone explained to me why this kangaroo bouncing koala munching eucalyptus gum
motherfuckers doing in my country the bar's too high guy. Give me a culture. Preferably white. Scottish.
Scottish, you're right.
Well, can someone get a pig over here and take the liver outside of the pig and fill it with some meat or notes?
Because I got a haggis eating some bitch right in front of me.
Do Canada term.
I don't know why this maple leaf, weed-smoking, sorry-utterin' son of a bitch is in my face.
That's right.
There we go.
You better take that Canadian wristwatch off your hand and put it inside of a pawn shop
before I pull it out and shove it so far up your ass it comes out your mouth
and you can't do nothing but tell the time anymore.
Because I also put your eyes in your mouth.
Yeah, yeah.
You got watches for eyes and eyes for teeth, boy.
By the time I'm finished with you.
Consider this our audition tape to do Punch Up on Fast X Part Deux.
Yeah.
As a trio.
Because The Rock's back.
I hear they've buried the feud.
I hear The Rock's going to be in F11.
Amazing.
Yeah, there's a big reveal.
Fleven.
Is that what they're calling it?
Fleventh heaven.
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Yeah.
Black.
Yeah, black.
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Yeah
You could guess
Um
It's a cap
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