The Worst Idea Of All Time - 34: Broché The Knife
Episode Date: April 18, 2019Recorded in front of a live audience in Melbourne and featuring a new knife! Timbo is afraid Monty resents him. Guy can't shine to his brightest and Carrie's continuing to do battle with her own psych...e in the form of Louise. Mr Big is bad at real estate deals, the boiz get a present from a fan who may have fallen on hard times. Plus Fergie, kerfuffles, and a complete existential break down from Timbo. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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We just have a good rhythm together, you know, he sort of feels me out, I feel him out, and we go for it.
Famously the best way to start any live comedy show is having to ask the audience to please clap. It was a Jeb Bush joke,
but I'm aware that most people won't know that,
so it's just a little joke for me.
It's very niche context.
Thank you so much, everybody.
Welcome along to the worst idea of all time,
our first live episode for season four.
Yeah!
Melbourne, how the fuck are ya?
Yeah, good shit.
There's so many of you here.
It's fantastic.
And it's this tradition at the West Idea
when we do a big live show,
big sold out thing, you know,
we always have a guest.
Yeah.
And the guest today, Tim, who is it?
It's a new nine.
Oh, wow.
Hey.
Hey.
Whoa.
That's really uncool.
So, let me tell you about what's happened to you, guy.
You bought a kitchen knife?
I did, but, yes and, it's ceramic.
So I don't think it'll get picked up at the airport on the metal detectors anymore.
The shape of it will.
It's got that really distinct knife shape.
That's true.
See how it's pointed at the end
with a very sharp edge?
What that means is that
I'm going to have to strap it to my purse.
You can just put it in your checked luggage,
you know,
or you can buy knives in the countries you're in.
You don't need to travel with a knife.
I'm helping the local Australian economy. So
we've got a new knife. I'd appreciate
it if you paid it some goddamn respect.
Yeah, I mean, sure. It's real sharp. The guy
in the store said that the ceramic knives
hold their edge very well. Oh, well,
it's his job to sell knives.
Yeah, man.
It's a good thing he was so honest
about the capabilities of this particular knife.
You don't know. Well, give yourself a jab.
You see how you go.
This is for vegetables, not people.
Or perhaps meat.
So, just out of curiosity, how many people in the room today have watched the movie Sex in the City?
Oh, yeah, great.
By hands.
I love that.
Yeah.
Well, I've watched it more than you so I like what you're doing
yeah I'm a cool guy
I'm trying to look relaxed
because chances are you're listening
to this guy's like position himself
where he's on the bar stool but he's sort of like
he's using it like a wall almost
it's a core workout
it's working out my core
so we watched this together
not immediately before recording,
because Tim is in the middle of, you know,
he's doing various different bits of administration.
So we watched it together.
There were people coming and going around the screening,
which was a pleasant change of pace.
It was so nice.
Yeah.
It was so good.
We were physically together, which was nice.
Yeah, it was lovely.
We did some touching.
Tim told me he's worried that I resent him.
Yeah.
I was not kidding either.
Because the thing is about this project and related projects,
because what we were trying to sort out was Overlooked and Undercooked Season 2.
Tune in for that, which is our Rob Schneider.
It's a disaster.
Yeah, it's great, isn't it?
It's great.
We've carved out such a great little corner
of the internet for ourselves
where we just punch ourselves in the fucking face.
Yeah, dude.
We just hole up in a room.
Yeah.
Anyway, all of that to say...
So we were still...
I was trying to sort it out.
I was like, now, a guy was like...
This was a guy earlier today.
He was like,
Tim, I want to go party tonight.
I want to go Taiwan on.
I really want to fucking paint the town red
after the show.
I'm not going to lie to you. I really want to have a big party tonight.
I'm going to try and find someone who will sell me Class A drugs.
Hey, hold on now.
This is being both recorded and observed.
This is like not the time to shoot out.
It's not a crime to say that I'm planning on buying and consuming Class A drugs.
So this was the enthusiasm that I was
met with and I said, now guy,
remember,
we're going to try and record an entire season
of this stupid podcast tomorrow
in a hotel room.
You said, I'll do it anyway.
It's so vigilant.
And that was kind of your mood and then I did
say, I think you resent me now.
And that's a recent thing.
I don't resent you, Tim.
And then actually Rose Matifeo, ever heard of her?
Yes.
She said, please don't fight, guys.
No, so I understand why you feel I might resent you.
And I don't.
I do think that we have, as always, made a grave error in reviving this podcast.
Yes. do think that we have, as always, made a grave error in reviving this podcast. I think
that if we wanted
to remain friends, we maybe could have scheduled
weekly calls. We could have done it
outside of the context of this.
And I know how excited we were at the time,
but I don't buy that, because we wouldn't have
done it. Hey!
Because it's all very well and good to say
we would have caught it.
Every Wednesday, we'll figure out what the time zone is
between New York and New Zealand,
and one of us will fucking get up at 6am to do our regular...
We wouldn't have done it.
It wouldn't have happened.
So would you rather just remain friends at a distance
or drive whatever connection we have into the ground?
Honestly?
Instead of just getting up at 6am to talk,
we're getting up at 6am to watch sex in the fucking city.
I'm saying this is wrong.
The formula you're putting out there,
the actual choice is nothing or this.
All I'm saying is that usually,
if I know that I'm about to spend one week
with my friend Tim Batt, I'm excited.
But knowing the whole time
it's like a millstone around my neck
because you resent me
no I don't resent you, I resent the decisions we make
when we're together
that is a different thing
that is the definition of a toxic relationship
eh
that's where we're at
I blame
the four women with whom we spend so much time a week.
So I didn't tell you this.
I was on the way.
I left.
So Tim came down here earlier, and I walked down from where I'm staying,
and I got into the lift in the apartment building, and I had a banana.
How quick is that lift, by the way?
Well, it depends how many other people stop.
Oh, yeah, true.
This was quite a slow lift drive.
And there were already a group of four middle-aged women
who were in revelry.
They were having such a good time.
They were all talking about what a fun day they'd had.
They'd been to the National Gallery of Victoria
and the fucking atmosphere, man.
And I was like, this is nice.
And I got in there and I had my banana in my hand
because I wanted to get my energy up for the show
and I looked at them all
and I was like
and I said
well I'd better not
eat this in here
it will smell too much
that's what I said
say it out loud
yeah
okay
it destroyed
really
it was a killer line
any fucking space
with strangers view
is a room
I know
like a room
in the comedy sets
so I
you could go to hospital
and be in one of those
roped off bits
with one other person
and you'd be testing
new gear
I know
and I broke protocol
I did not turn around
and face the door
as the rules of
riding a lift dictator
I just kept looking
at all of them
holding this banana in my hand you paint me as the fucking of writing a lift dicta, I just kept looking at all of them holding this banana in my
hand. You paint me as the fucking
maniac because I keep bringing knives to our
live shows. You're the crazy
one, man. What do you reckon?
Knife?
And so
I listen and they're all talking
and they're like, yeah, what does a banana smell?
You know, there's...
Oh, stop you there. Are you paraphrasing or were they curious? No,, what does a banana smell? You know, there's... Oh, stop you there.
Are you paraphrasing or were they curious?
No, it's like a middle age.
They're like, why does a banana smell more, you know,
why does opening a banana smell more than the banana?
Like, okay, well, when I'm relaying it, it does
sound pretty loopy. Yeah.
But they were riffing and I was in there.
And we got down to the ground floor
and then they sort of all, they all filed out
and they left and they started walking
you know in the same direction as me
and I was walking behind them
exciting
but like in earshot
and what it was
is it was a representation
of genuine friendship
these were four women
who were excited to see one another
who were talking about things
that I could relate to
and I found myself thinking
this is what I want to be watching
this is what we're saying
this is what I want to be watching
yeah
like
and I was so I became angry about what we are watching and This is what I want to be watching. Yeah, like, and I was so,
I became angry about what we are watching
and I took a photo of them.
From back, from the...
Did you tell them?
No, of course not.
So hold up.
You told, the out loud bit was,
oh, I was going to eat this banana,
but it'll smell too much.
And the quiet bit was,
I'm going to take your photo.
That's back to front my friend.
I didn't say anything.
Look here they are
they're all walking in front of me
Okay.
You've got their backs
which is weirder.
You can't see it
but I was like
this is nice.
Anyway.
Wait a minute.
I don't even know where
Well I just think
it's nice
We're going to start with this.
I thought when you were
going with that by the way
is because it's for
women in the elevator
I thought you were like oh my god it's sex in the city IRL when you were going with that, by the way, is because it's for a woman in the elevator.
I thought you were like, oh my God, it's Sex and the City IRL.
And you were trying to pick who was the Samantha.
I didn't play that game. Who was Carrie.
Because I didn't want to look at them through the prism of these characters.
Yeah.
I was just like, oh, wicked.
There's been a couple of things, actually.
You won't know this because you weren't here,
but the male gaze...
This sounds like shade.
I don't know why I said it that way.
We had the male gaze live show just before this one,
and Chris was talking about how...
Chris Parker, ever heard of him?
Yes.
I'm going to do that for every comedian I mention,
which will be a lot this episode
because we're in Melbourne in the middle of the comedy festival.
He mentioned how you
are sort of, you've got a hankering
for physical affection at the moment and how you
guys had a hug the other day and just
held it a bit longer because
neither of your partners are here and you just
both were craving a bit of just connection
with another human. It's not untrue
I am craving all forms of
physical intimacy at all times
and I saw you do it with it's really
it's like
it's lovely to see
how affectionate you're being
and heartbreaking about how much you need it
yeah and then
again mate
yeah that's for you
cool
that's for the knife you fuck
but yeah no
I do
and then so yeah
I mean
we did some nice touching
when we were watching the movie as well
you and I
yeah
you were lying on me at one point and I so yeah I mean we did some nice touching when we were watching the movie as well you and I yeah you were lying on me
at one point
and I don't know
I yeah look
I just think
again it's like
when we were together
and this is my fear
and this is why I think
you feel like I resent you
when I don't
yeah
but it's that
like that is the lowest
like you know
that is the lowest ebb
I hit
weekly
bi-weekly
no is that right
is bi-weekly two different weeks?
It's both. Okay. Oh, really?
I think that's true. Someone should sort that out.
Yeah, there's a million phones in here. Can someone...
It is both. It is both?
What a disaster of language.
I know!
It's fucked. You can imagine that would have
ruined a few book clubs.
And it's...
Very true. And it's... Very true.
And very quick of you.
It's fine with weeks
because we've got fortnight,
but when you say biannual,
that's a massive deal
because it's a factor of four
is the difference.
It's either once every six months
or once every two years.
Yeah.
Huge.
Yeah, it's tremendous.
And I think
there's more gold in these hills
my boy
keep digging
I'm not putting the beer there
I'm going to get the co-host
wet
get the co-host
it's ceramic, it can't rust
why aren't all knives ceramic?
that's such a good point
I want you to dip the knife in the beer.
With the case on, that's gross.
I'll take the sheath off.
He's had a little drink.
Knifey on the piss.
Look, I feel like it's only fair
we should delve into the actual source material
for this particular podcast.
Yes, the film. The for this particular podcast. Oh, yes.
The film.
The movie.
The movie Sex and the City, which today surprisingly ran at two hours and 30 minutes again.
Do I owe you a hundred?
Oh.
No, not yet.
I can't remember which.
Have you guys heard the episode yet?
There's only one that you might not have heard.
No, we're good.
We're good.
Do you owe me a hundred dollars yet yet has Big walked down the aisle?
No, I've made a wager with Tim
that Big will eventually walk down the aisle the first time.
And Tim tried to refuse the bet
on the grounds that I was not mentally sound.
I insisted.
But no, everything pretty much played out the same.
Well, not everything, though.
What did you notice?
That Lily says, look, mommy.
Oh, look at this, mommy.
When they're getting in the car to go to the wedding.
I had never heard it before.
34 fucking episodes.
And I think it was something about the fact that it was coming through the MacBook speakers
because you know me
I like a bit of bass
yeah
and so usually
I'm listening through
a Bluetooth speaker
or some headphones
and I think it was
the amount of treble
that's in those
it just made it
a child's voice
yeah yeah
you hear a lot of cries
for help in the movie
from children
don't you
hugely yeah
it's a whole different
oral experience
so I'm just saying
don't say that it was exactly the same
because there are small differences every time.
There are little moments.
I've been souring on Miranda.
Now, famously, I love Miranda.
I think she's a real, she's a devil with the dudes
and she's just good, clean fun.
But I am starting to suspect that there is you know
beneath her calm exterior
lies a
you know
a deep ocean
of emotional repression
I think that
I
Alanis Morissette
you notice I was quoting
Jagged Little Pill
I feel like
I previously stood behind her decisions
like I don't think anyone
comes off in this movie very well,
except for Steve.
And remember, Steve does cheat on someone,
and I'm still like, here, go Steve.
Yeah, that's fine.
But she...
Guys, cancel.
There's the funnest...
There's, like, probably the most fun I've had on this season,
ganging up on you.
Well, you and the knife can do your worst.
I'm a fucking bully.
Oh, nah, man. I wouldn't bring him into this.
He's got
total autonomy over his own ideas.
It's interesting that I've gendered the knife as a
dude. And you did it quick, too. Yeah, I did.
I didn't even think about it.
That's interesting. Because usually inanimate objects
are a woman.
Boats are women.
Boats are everything. Most stuff out there is a boat. Soats are women. Boats are everything.
Most stuff out there is a boat.
So if you're looking at an object
statistically it's a woman.
On the rationale that statistically
it is a boat.
Everything's a boat if you're light enough.
How light do you need to be?
I'm a pretty slender dude.
Is everything a boat to me?
No, not quite for you, no.
Is everything being a boat
is my goal weight?
And it's an admirable one.
But you've got to look out for yourself as well.
I just think Miranda today
was lashing out a lot.
And I don't know why.
Did you not find this?
I thought she was being so rude.
She was...
So she does it to Mr Big at the rehearsal dinner.
She says, you're crazy to get married.
Yeah, that's the main plot point of the film we've watched 34 times.
Wouldn't you put it like that?
Yeah.
But she also,
I guess it's more like
I saw them all in,
I saw them all unfurled consecutively
and I thought,
you know what,
you're not the paragon of morals
and principles I thought you were.
You're actually,
you've got a dark side.
Miranda specifically?
Miranda specifically.
Yeah.
Right.
And previously I've sort of
just only chosen to see the light in her
because I think Cynthia Nixon
is probably one of the stronger actors in this movie. Yes. I would agree. I've sort of just only chosen to see the light in her because I think Cynthia Nixon is probably one of the stronger
actors in this movie
I would agree
I'm back on Charlotte as a character
but Kristen Davis really fucking hands it up
in this, she is a mess
and I
will not name names
for fear of one of them either being
in a relationship or striking up some sort of professional
endeavour with her but
Kristen Davis was getting a lot of shade from the comedians
in the room about her comedic performance.
Well, I just think... Kirsten?
I should know her name by now.
No, you only need to know Charlotte
Goldenblatt. New York.
Is it double-barrelled?
What? Or has she just swapped it out?
No, she just swapped it out. Is it Goldenblatt York
or York Golden Black?
New York is old-timey language.
I don't know what that is.
Sorry, but say it because I don't know if everyone will.
But no, know that I do.
Yeah, yeah.
In which case, I won't say it.
But she...
I don't know.
I can't remember what I was going to fucking say,
but it was going to be really quite observant.
Salient and important.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you got a shining light?
Should I lead with one?
Yeah, if you've got one.
It's a brooch.
Well, is it a brooch?
I think it's a brooch.
Some sort of ornament that Charlotte is wearing at the fashion...
Yeah.
What the fuck is that?
It's the...
It's a fashion show.
Fashion week.
It's fashion week
in New York City, everybody.
Samantha's come back
especially for it
because it's such
a special occasion.
She never comes back
to New York City.
Wait a minute,
she's there every
goddamn weekend.
Her relationship's in tatters.
It's almost like
they regret writing
her character being
set in LA for the movie.
They're like,
we're going to have her in LA
and then every time
they create a scene they're like, you know, to have her in LA. And then every time they create a scene,
they're like, you know, this needs more Samantha.
We'd better fly her in.
There's no fucking reason for her to be in Los Angeles
because she's in New York so much of the film.
Just do a rewrite, Mattress.
Like, you've got the time.
What else have you got on?
Honestly, what else has he made?
I don't know.
I don't know why I'm coming at you hard.
No, no, no. I'm fired up!
Mattress Pikelet King, as far as I
know, has just done
Sex and the City and that's it.
I don't know if that's true. That's still pretty good.
What have we done?
What
media have we created or shared with the
world that is worthy of this? I mean,
you know, nothing holds up to this level of scrutiny.
You're bringing up a lot of real world critique into this beautiful bubble
that we've made for ourselves inside the podcast, and I do not appreciate it.
Especially with all of my friends from Melbourne here.
I thought these were people who liked the podcast.
These are just your friends?
These are my mates.
How wrong you are, guy.
Make some noise if you're Tim's mate.
Honestly, less enthusiastic than I was anticipating.
Yeah, you can tell,
because when you said that,
it got a much louder noise
than when you asked if they were your mate.
You were like, who's my mate?
And everyone was like, woo.
And then you said, oh, I was expecting more.
And we heard how many people were truly in the room.
And it was at least triple.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Don't worry about it.
Have you got a shining light?
Well, no, I'd like you to describe this brooch in more detail.
Oh, yeah.
Brooch.
It's spelt brooch.
Is it?
Yeah.
It's got a U in it.
No, it's B-R-O-O-C-H.
There's not two O's.
Is there?
I'm a bad speller.
Is there an accent on the E?
There's no E in it.
Is there?
Well, no, I just spelled it for you.
B-R-O-O-C-H.
Can I share with everyone how it looks in my head?
I think I'm spelling brioche when I hear the word.
B-R-1-O-C-H.
E with an X.
Yeah, you've misspelt the word brioche.
Yeah.
That's cool.
What word is that then?
Bruchet.
Yeah, it's not.
It's not important.
I dub thee bruchet.
Okay.
That's knife four?
Yeah, that's your fourth knife.
Yeah.
I think, you know, it's sort of like if you have three pets
and you can't keep them going, you don't deserve a fourth pet.
I'd probably like to implement a similar policy with knives.
Oh, one of them I gave away,
but the other one's airport security to take off me.
It's big and it's shiny and it's sort of simple,
but it's like silver in colour
and also I've seen this movie 34 times.
Okay, so you just...
It's about the size of it.
Charlotte's wearing quite an elegant black dress at Fashion Week,
and it just kind of makes it pop.
It changes her from being a stylish shadow to a woman of fashion.
And Stan, is there little things?
You know, you go into Fashion Week, it's hard to know how to dress,
because you don't want to go too formal.
You might feel like you're sticking out,
deflecting attention from the catwalk models. you don't want to go too formal. You might feel like you're sticking out, deflecting attention from
the catwalk models. You don't want to go too
informal. You feel out of place and insecure.
I just nodded a lot. That's completely
normal. Do you think anyone going to a fashion
event is scared that they're going to upstage
the models? That's so cool.
I haven't been to a lot of catwalk events, but
I'm always fearful that I'm going to draw
the eyes of the punters.
There's such an interesting almost mental illness you've just expressed
because you're so full of yourself that you think that's possible
but so kind that you want to avoid it.
Absolutely.
This is definitely a risk, but I will make sure that doesn't happen.
That's how I live my entire life.
I'm operating at 70% only out of fear of distracting from everyone else.
Imagine you, fearless,
of everyone else's ego.
That you were like,
I can just shine to my maximum.
Imagine that.
Imagine that, Melbourne friends.
Guy's pretty good.
He's pretty funny.
He's pretty switched on.
But imagine if he turned his brightness
up to 100%.
Because he wasn't afraid of blinding us anymore.
No, it would be too bright.
The fucking guard rails came off.
This is the same sort of thing.
We popped up the little, what are they called?
The kitty gutters on the tip and bowling.
And we've got just
un-inebriated Monty.
Yeah, well.
Final form of freezer.
We'll never know.
But my...
Because I do it out of respect.
Honestly, though...
If you had enough therapy, you could get there.
And I...
want to see it.
I think I'd have a lot to unpack
before this conversation in therapy.
Namely why I keep coming back to this.
But, no, my shining light was actually...
And it's in keeping with a discovery recently that Louise
is entirely a construct of Carrie's
imagination. Yes. So it's
shone a lot of new light on the
conversations that they or she has
with herself. Uh-huh. So at
one point when she's talking about these
shoes, and she goes,
Louise holds up the shoes and shows them
to Carrie. Yeah. And
says, what about these?
And she goes, I'm going to take them or something.
And Carrie goes, no.
I'm going to take them or something.
That's how skillful the writing is,
that it stays with you after 34 watches.
I'm going to take these or something.
We've seen it 34 fucking times.
I can preempt probably the same 50 lines
every time and the rest of them are just
literally the parents from Peanuts
going...
Perfect. It's incredible
we can put together this story from how many
people are just going...
Do you
want these? I think she says.
And Carrie wants the shoes
and Louise goes, I know where you live.
And Louise says, well, for a pair like this, I could move.
And the idea of, because these are such disgusting and ugly shoes.
They're horrible.
The idea of Carrie creating someone else to validate her awful fashion choices so that she can play against herself.
The more you dig into it, the more sense it makes.
Usually our hair brain schemes and theories
are fucked, but this one seems
like more watertight the further we drag
it under the bathtub.
It just makes so much sense.
She's got so many holes in her own
psyche that it's like, yeah, of course
she would invent an
imaginary friend to justify how fucked
she is. At the start of the movie,
I don't know how long the series was,
about 10 years.
These characters have been alive for 15 years.
She is an author.
She has written,
she says it in the prologue,
she's written three books.
Three bestsellers, everyone.
Her lifestyle is so far beyond
someone who has written three books in 15 years.
Yeah.
We've brushed on this before, but let's fucking dig in.
Being an author doesn't get you
to where she is. It's nuts.
Where's the money coming from?
It's a good question. And it's not all
big, too, because I think she is
in spite
of the sort of fucked things
that Carrie does,
I think the two movies
have done a job in
retaining the feminism that
she has, feministism that
she has. What the fuck is that word?
Again, so that's very similar to brooch
Yeah
You sort of dance around a
word that is out there
Fuck, I don't know
She's very independent and I think that Carrie's that is out there. Fuck, I don't know.
She's very independent.
And I think that Carrie's character is one that wouldn't be content
to have a relationship
where things are often bought for her.
If she covets a pair of shoes,
she wants to pay for that herself.
And the fact that...
This is why it's such a big plot point
that the apartment is paid for by Big.
You know?
Because she wants an equal relationship. He buys by big. She wants an equal
relationship. He buys his thing, she wants to buy
her own thing. She doesn't mind on impact though.
She says, I got it. And then she
goes, oh, cool.
Oh yeah, cool. Spent
$35 million on this house we have done
no checks on. And then he just turned,
this is his version of business, he turns
to the guy showing them around the house and goes,
well, let's sign some paperwork.
There is...
How happy would you be as a real estate agent
to meet John B?
Far out.
Just roll up into the penthouse suite,
say, hey, this is pretty good,
I reckon I can knock out that closet
and create an infinity space.
Some sort of hyperbolic chamber
that doesn't make sense in the constructive time space
that we're aware of? I could do something with it though.
He's got a few questions. One of them is
presumably, are these walls and curtains
jizz proof?
Yeah.
What do you put down?
It's not Windex, but could you like laminate
an entire apartment?
Yeah. Can you just laminate a room?
It's like a kill room, isn't it?
You know when you want to murder someone
and you've got to lay down sort of,
not sheets because that will absorb,
but sort of plastic sheets everywhere?
Some murderers do use sheets.
Not the best ones, though.
Not the most efficient ones.
I regret my choice of best
I don't think they're
good murderers
no
shouldn't phrase it like that
you know true crime podcasts
are actually pretty popular
is there that too
we could make a very
cunning pivot here
I don't think we could
pull it off
no I don't think
we could either
I mean
you know
we don't have the chops
we're barely dragging ourselves through this I know you still haven't given me a shining light I don't think we could either. I mean, you know. We don't have the chops. We're barely dragging ourselves through this.
You still haven't given me a shining light, I don't think.
Yeah, I did.
It's the conversation between Carrie and herself.
Oh, fuck, all right.
Are we in the middle of it still?
No, no.
It's just that conversation, that's it.
What happened, Tim, is we sort of wound up,
and this is going to sound unlikely on a podcast,
but we sort of went on some aside or tangent
and wound up in an entirely ancillary riff.
But you pointing out that we did that
sort of removed all of the power of it
and has put the onus of responsibility back on me
or us to create a new thing to talk about.
All right, well, then can we get our present from Michael?
Oh, yeah, if you want.
So a lovely fan who's here in the room.
Michael, can you just do it?
Yeah, he's putting his hand up in the air.
Thank you, Michael.
Michael's brought us a gift.
And what I'd like to do is one of us will read the beautiful
card that he has given us and the other one will
unwrap. I'll read the card.
So we've got a, it says
Seasons Greetings and it's got some Christmas
paraphernalia on the front and it says
Dear Brave Boys, Greetings
of, and he's like, he's scribed
some stuff out here to make it applicable for us
he said, Greetings of Season 4
and best wishes for the new year
What I'm doing here is giving you options
underlined. Take a break
exclamation point
Watch the bonus features, listen to the audio
description. All my love, Michael
And the
tenderness with which you are opening that package
endears me to you and frustrates
me as a co-performer on set.
And he's stopped down.
He's stopped doing anything now.
Guy's just holding.
Well, there's an element of suspense here, isn't there?
I mean, if you ask me, I'd say it's probably
Sex and the City on Blu-ray.
Or, if Michael's upon hard times, DVD.
Time will tell. Oh, it does look like a DVD
I'm so sorry Michael
is it
is it
two disc special edition
DVD video
oh Michael
Michael we're going to
refund you a ticket
purchase after the show
so just come and see us
two by two
there's a price tag for two dollars.
It's sealed.
It's not second hand
and it's some sort of a collector's edition
because it's multi-disc
and it was sold for two dollars
including Australian GST.
As two people who have
obviously only consumed this movie
through legal means online,
I wonder if you'd like to hear how it's
articulated on the DVD as sold.
Weirdly, I had a craving
a couple of watches ago to know the blurb
and also, I don't think we've ever watched
the trailer. Have you seen it?
Parentheses
Guy looks incredibly sad
For too long
Carrie Bradshaw
had been looking for love
in all the wrong places
But in all the right shoes
Is that in there?
Yeah well it's not my tag
Honestly could have been
In this much anticipated movie event Carrie Samantha tag. Honestly, could have been.
In this much-anticipated movie event, Carrie, Samantha,
Charlotte and Miranda are
back, four years after
the hit TV series ended.
It's really confusing whether or not they're talking about
the movie as it exists unto itself
or the movie an extension of the franchise,
isn't it? As they continue to juggle
career, relationships, motherhood and life in Manhattan, the girls realise extension of the franchise, isn't it? As they continue to juggle career, relationships,
motherhood and life in Manhattan,
the girls realise that more than ever,
true friendship never goes out of style.
I would argue that this is one of the worst representations
of friendship on screen.
It's so bad.
The person who's written that, A, hasn't watched the movie
and B, I don't think is very familiar with the series, it smacks of
Wikipedia to me, honestly
I think it's some hungover intern
inside whatever outfit
writes the blurbs for DVDs
and they have fucked up
because this thing is well overdue now
and it's about to go to print and they're like, oh
no
just cobble it together
who reads these?
Only people who have seen the movie already 34 times.
And you'll be pleased to hear that in the special features,
I mean, we're going to have to hire a DVD player
to fucking do this thing,
but you get a conversation with SJP and Mattress,
the fabulous fashion and sex in the city.
This is my one that I'm excited about.
Fergie in the studio.
Finally, we get to see the great Fergie's process
sorry what
yeah watch a hit in the making
as the singer records labels or love
for the movie soundtrack
is that Fergie
yeah yeah yeah
did you know that
picture perfect beautiful
did you know that was Fergie
is that Black Eyed Peas Fergie
yeah presumably yeah
unless it's a member of the royal family.
Yeah.
The only other big Fergie.
I mean, that would be a huge guess.
That'd be a coup.
Really, you know, stretching her wings.
Look, I really want to thank you for this.
Obviously, you know, it's a classy touch leaving the price of it.
The sentimental value is through the roof, huh?
Getting sentimental.
Yeah.
It's Michael.
And the gals.
I would like...
Why is your phone out?
Because I wrote a note that I have to remember.
Is that okay by you?
Yeah, that's all right.
It just seems a little uncouth at a live show, Guy.
That's all.
No, I think it's a good idea.
Approximate running time.
145 minutes. Just sayimate running time, 145 minutes.
Just say it in print.
145?
Oh, that must be the extended... 145.
No, no.
No, I think that's right.
Yeah, because two hours is 120.
No, that's just the amount of film.
I keep thinking an hour is 100 minutes.
And why wouldn't you?
Why fucking wouldn't you?
It's where the metric system let us down, right?
We've always gone on about how perfect it is. It's where the metric system let us down, right? We're always going on about
how perfect it is. It's
not the metric system's fault, it's
time's fault.
You know.
Yeah, I'm furious too, mate.
You know the good thing
about this, I know you're about to read a note,
this is PAL Region 4, so at least
this isn't like one where we have to
jailbreak
a DVD player or something to play.
Yeah, I think that's quite interesting, actually.
Some people will
care to know that. Not a lot.
When you talk about
the tech specs, I'm always like, Tim is talking
to himself. A crisp 16 by 9 widescreen
my favourite ratio of them all
fuck it
isn't it all of ours
just throw in at any time
I'll stop down
what I was going to say is like
have you got any tips and tricks
and we haven't talked about this
but what
if you are feeling so blue and low
when you watch the movie
have you got any tips and tricks
for how to try and
cajole yourself into having a good time
it might not last forever but even for a second,
have you got any means of watching it and being like,
hey, nothing.
The main one is to imagine you're singing
for the first time, right? Yeah, I guess so.
Which is hard to do.
Yeah. Almost impossible.
Okay. Is this a genuine
ask, or are you leading me down a path?
It's both, but I would be curious
We need to support each other
Survival tips?
Watching it with someone else is obviously number one
If you've got another person in the room
It's so much better
Sometimes it's a wife
Sometimes it's a friend
Sometimes it's a dog
Sometimes it's a knife that you've imbued
With co-host responsibilities.
How is your wife handling the revived sexism?
Zoe's watched the movie with me three quarters of one time.
And I ask her a lot.
I'm like, do you want to watch the movie with me?
What does she say when you go, do you want to watch the movie with me?
Absolutely not.
Does she say it with disdain?
Yeah.
Is she cross?
I wouldn't describe it as cross
but it's just like vehement
is what I would say.
Yeah, unmovable. Which I
respect. That's why I married her. It's like, yeah, of
course. Good.
Correct, you know? Still sad
for me. Well, I try to watch
it as, the only one I
have is that you watch it as though it's your first time
watching the movie. Hey, it'd be remiss of us
not to comment on the kerfuffle that's happening.
That's right. There's a lot of people who are getting generally
quite excited for what I'm about to say
is the feeling I get. And they shouldn't
be. But, so
they're just, when, so
the wedding scene, right, this is, if you think
about it as a fan of the series and someone
who's watching the movie for the first time, all the
build is towards this big wedding between Carrie
and Big. And
in your mind's eye, you'd be like, wow, they're really going
to do it. I don't know how they're going to stretch out a happy
marriage for another hour and a half, but they're really going
to do it. But there is
a tell that is planted in the
movie, which is on the wedding day,
the biggest moment in the movie, something that everyone who's
a fan of the series and a fan of Carrie Bradshaw
has been waiting for,
the score.
The score is incredibly foreboding.
You're right.
When she's going to get married,
it's not like,
because you'd think it'd be light-hearted sort of pomp and ceremony, don't you?
You'd think it'd be quite an exciting time.
Yeah.
But it's this sort of autumnal sounding...
It's not Sex and the City 2.
It's not Eliza Minnelli cover of Beyonce, is it?
No, it's foreboding music. It's the inverse of Eliza Minnelli cover of Beyonce, is it? No, it's foreboding music. It's the
inverse of Eliza Minnelli cover of
Beyonce. It's strings and they
use the technique, what's it called when you
pluck the string instead of using the bow?
It's called plucking.
No, but there's an
Italian word. Is there? Does anyone know?
Pizzicato. Do you play an instrument?
Yes.
That was awesome. I'm going to recreate what just happened. do you play an instrument? Yes. That was awesome.
I'm going to recreate what just happened.
Do you play an instrument?
Yeah.
Too good.
That's such a good way to answer any question.
Fuck yeah.
Can you drive?
Yeah.
Decide what you want to be true without trying to mask the facts.
Are you supposed to have that knife?
Uh, yeah.
It's actually pretty important.
I think I am supposed
to have it, yeah.
But I mean, you sort of bailed me out there
because I had nothing more than that.
I noticed it was full-blown.
It's in a minor key.
What's wrong, man? The key what's wrong man
the whole thing's wrong isn't it
the whole thing's wrong
are we running out of puff
yeah which is so bad
do you think we're going to make it to the end of the season
it doesn't feel like we could at this point
this is so cool there's so many people
in a room watching this why are you here
why are they honestly
why is anyone
listening? Like, what the fuck is going on
out there? What's happened in
society that anyone listens
to our podcast? It's quite nice standing up.
This was my fear,
was that, because to me
the only value that's left in doing
this is that
we can now truly capture and represent like
the the you know the the depths of despair like we we have a responsibility to one another and
anyone still listening to this train wreck beautiful friends of mine to prod each other
and push ourselves deeper into this this sort of funk that we both find ourselves in by watching
the movie over and over again.
And when you put on a live show,
you want it to be an occasion for joy and celebration.
So it's a challenging thing to do,
because all, like, genuinely, I think the only value in it
is we are, you know, we can expose ourselves,
and by virtue of doing that, everyone,
to how sad a person can make themselves.
Fuck me.
Fucking hell, what a project.
And to do that in front of a paying audience feels
really odd and sort of
it's like, it's
counterintuitive, isn't it? It's counterintuitive
for us to sit up here and go, I'm sad.
So why would you pay $20
to see someone telling you they're sad?
Well, there's heaps of shows in the Comedy Festival
that do that.
Far more skillfully than us.
Well, I've written it out beforehand.
Yeah.
I feel really bad now.
No, no, feel good.
I don't, though, at all.
Oh, well, I feel okay.
What you just did's put me in a genuine funk.
Well, in a way, that's kind of what it was meant to do.
Yeah, that's true.
How meta of you.
Well done.
Thanks.
Can we talk more about Brady?
I just always am so thirsty to figure out what he's up to.
He's developmentally stunted is his main problem.
Yeah.
And he's not being given the appropriate amount of care and attention by his parents
or any extra care figures like Magda to probably find a way to facilitate his learning.
Because, you know, he should go to a Steiner school.
He should go to somewhere like...
Yeah.
He should be in Montessori.
And he shouldn't be going to, you know,
traditionally structured schools.
And because he doesn't,
that means that he weaponises his intelligence
in ways that, you know,
if he was given the proper care and attention,
he would not.
But instead, he finds ways to apply himself
that serves retribution to those who have wronged him.
That's genuinely what I think about Brady.
So it seems to me that you believe Brady's got intense mental capacity
to do some other thing, potentially.
There could have been a good...
So what could that have been?
Imagine if you harboured the power of all the rats
in New York City for good.
But has he not?
Like, this is the thing
about Brady.
He's not an evil, per se, character.
No, but this is the thing
about any supervillain.
You watch their origin story
and you're always like,
oh, no,
they're having a bit
of a rough go of it.
And then you see a moment
where you think,
oh, no, it's had an impact. Yeah. And now they're having a bit of a rough go of it. And then you see a moment where you think, oh, no, it's had an impact.
And now they're across.
Is every supervillain simply an overreaction?
Is that all that character type is?
It's not an overreaction.
It's a misunderstanding.
They're one moment of communication away
from being able to channel the hardship for good.
And Brady falls into that category.
Cookies.
If he was fed cookies?
No, no, no.
If he made cookies.
Like, imagine if you could organise all of the rats in New York City
to create a blend of Sex and the City and Ratatouille.
Yeah. Do you know, that guy in Ratat City to create a... A blend of Sex and the City and Ratatouille. Yeah.
Do you know, that guy in Ratatouille is a redhead.
He's an American chef who's moved to France.
See, this is like one of those
Marvel Cinematic Universe things
where it peels off.
It's like an alternate parallel universe.
It's like the best version of Brady
is he becomes a chef that teams up with one specific mouse,
a rat, and... Wait, what rat? I was like, is it a rat or a rat? It's Rat the best version of Brady is he becomes a chef that teams up with one specific mouse, a rat.
Wait, what rat?
I was like, is it a rat or a rat?
It's the same thing, though, because that would be how you'd unionize all the rats.
You'd use one and you'd build a relationship on trust and then they would persuade other rats.
No, no, no, no.
You know how wrong you are.
You've never taken over a colony before.
You can't raise one up because then that singular will overtake you.
You've got to raise like four at the same time
and then they compete with each other
and that is how the Illuminati
is keeping us down. Shave us up,
keep us fighting with ourselves
and we'll never manage to muster enough
organisational skills to overthrow them.
If you were in the writers room for Ratatouille
that would have been quite a different film.
Get Alex Jones on the line we need him in here now
But I think
if his powers were put to making
cookies it would be sort of
almost like a Willy Wonka situation but nicer
People view Willy Wonka very strangely
like he's some sort of hero
but he's basically enslaved
like captured a bunch of people from
their native home and taken them back to his
factory and enslaved them. That's fucked.
Yeah.
They don't, I don't
and they like, they do a lot of
singing and dancing and stuff but I don't think
it's joyous. I think it's
like just to keep them going, you know?
Yeah, I mean Roald Dahl was actually a pretty going, you know? Yeah, I mean, Roald Dahl
was actually a pretty dark guy.
Truly? Yeah, truly. Have you read his adult
stories? Nah. Some of them have
not aged well. Oh.
But he's really talented at writing.
Yeah. But he was of a time.
Yeah. I think he was like, I think he was,
you know, because he's famous for his kids' books,
but he started with like these really, these short stories
with incredible twists, and they're all very
dark and sinister. Is anyone a Roald Dahl
fan? I can get into them. They're
really fucking good. Is anyone a
Roald Dahl fan?
Yeah, I think
two people answered yes. No, it's just,
I'm having almost an out-of-body experience
just showing, we've gone
downhill, eh? I think.
Yeah, I agree.
Does anyone want to take over the podcast?
Can we do that?
No. How funny would that be?
If we just were like,
we literally can't do it anymore, but the season
will continue, but someone else is going to be
taking someone else's hand.
They can't, I would feel,
they can't, because we've done 34 weeks of homework.
They just need to catch up.
So they would need to watch the movie 34 times
and then we pass the talk show.
Yeah, I think we've set a glowing example
of how fun that could be.
Can't imagine the number of people
clambering for their laptops
to dig into that exciting project.
We two from here, though, you know?
For us?
Yeah.
Because it's just us. Yeah.
I don't mean tonight. I mean the rest of the season.
This is genuinely
awful. When it's just us
we can be more, you know,
we can touch each other but we can be mean.
It's different.
It's a different experience.
Being in the room with people? Yes.
I like the live shows. I like the live shows too,
but I mean,
you know,
there is an element of guilt towards.
Yeah,
that's what it is,
folks.
We feel really bad that you're here
on your own behalf.
It's just,
it's genuine,
like sympathy for you.
But that sympathy is actually for us.
They are like,
you know,
like the sympathy we feel for them
is them feeling sympathy for us
for feeling bad for feeling them.
It's a real fucking pity party.
It's cyclical, yeah.
It's horrible.
No, but I mean, I don't...
Guy, let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
The fuck is Steve up to this watch, you know?
There he is.
Swinging around New York City
with his giant donkey dick.
We never got to the bottom of that, eh?
Here are the two possibilities, folks.
Either the guy who plays Steve, whose name I forget.
David?
Yeah, sure, why not?
Nope, not coming to me.
Either he has a massive penis,
or he asked backstage to see someone who famously has a massive penis.
I also can't remember
who told Guy and I this story,
but it was like a Hollywood insider
when we were in Los Angeles. I reckon that anecdote
could use a workshop. Yeah.
But it's something, you know.
Steve's got his big old donkey dick.
One cab for him, one for his penis.
I still firmly think that
the untold story here
of Steve is for how much I like
him, he does have a problem.
He's a sex
addict. And it's all approved.
Like, you know, we've talked about it before.
Have we? Yes.
Have you been a sex addict? Yeah, like remember when
he fucked Smith Jarrett.
Let me ask my friends. Hold on.
Does this feel like news? Raise your hand if this
feels like news to you, that Steve's a Does this feel like... Raise your hand if this feels like news to you,
that Steve's a sex addict,
and now raise your hand if it feels like established fact.
We have lulled the audience.
Ah, no, there you go.
I know.
There's quite a lot of people agreeing,
because he had sex with Smith Jarrett, right?
Because they're empathising with one another
over how hard they find their relationships with these women.
Yes.
When Miranda comes into the room
after he's confessed to cheating
and the dog's on the bed,
and he gets rid of the dog,
there's a guilty look in his eyes that says,
I fucked that dog.
That does not a sex addict make, though.
Those are two different things.
It's not just Smith.
It's not just that beautiful border collie.
It's everyone's fair game to Steve.
So that's what he's doing.
Even dogs?
Well, that particular dog.
Okay.
I don't think he's having sex with all the dogs.
I like your nuanced take on bestiality.
It's like, I don't fuck animals.
I occasionally sleep with this specific beautiful dog.
Because I'm a sex addict.
It's not weird.
I'm just a sex addict.
That's why I have sex with this one dog.
People do that with dolphins.
They have sex with one specific dolphin.
Yeah, they build a relationship with a dolphin.
Really?
Probably, I don't know.
I'm not a fucking genius.
Look, it
feels like we're running out of steam.
You look sad. I am.
You should have seen how excited you were when you showed me
your knife. Remember that, Tim?
Remember that
version of yourself not one hour ago?
It's fucking mean, man.
It's so sharp.
I would like to say this.
I would like to say I love you all for coming
out. I'd like to say, Tim, I truly do love
you and I'm sorry you're going to say I resent you.
We've got to find something cool.
Love is cool, baby. I love you.
No.
Let me ask you this.
Are you familiar with Robocop?
No.
Robocop is the story of
a fantastic
police officer
and he gets shot by
a syndicate of organised criminals.
Like, crazy shot up.
It's a pretty intense scene.
It's so gory, it's like satire of a horror movie, almost.
You've got blood that comes out of him.
He's pumped full of bullets. It's crazy.
So then...
Fuck, what's the name of the CPD, I think they're called?
It's like the police department.
They've gotten in cahoots with this private robotics company for this
project where they're going to rebuild one of their offices
as a cybernetic organism.
Is this podcast now you describing other movies?
Yeah. And so they rebuild
him and he becomes this like fighting
machine. Now is it possible
is it at all possible based on what we know about
the two characters that Smith
Jarrett is
Dick Bart.
As it stands in my memory, yes.
That is just possible.
And that they're not in a scene together.
There's no conversation that happens between the two of them.
Yeah. Why do you ask?
Because it'd be cool.
I'm trying to land a plan here on a big number, you know,
to end the show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What if Smith...
What happened to Smith Garrett that they had to rebuild him
as Dickbot and kind of, like, increase his mind with AI?
Well, you know what it was?
He died of a broken heart.
Oh, yeah.
Steve,
Steve promised the world
to this guy.
He had no idea
what a dirty dog Steve is.
Yeah.
Steve was doing it
dirty with a dog.
Yeah.
And then Smith goes,
Steve, I'm ready
to leave Samantha.
I'm ready for this.
And Steve goes,
can you call me back
in five minutes?
I'm just finishing this border collie.
Finishing.
And that's our episode.
Thank you so much for coming out, everybody.
We just have a good mood.
That's what it feels me out.
I feel him out.
And we go for it.