The Worst Idea Of All Time - 5: Coffee Business w/ Dan Rath (Overlooked and Undercooked S2E5)
Episode Date: November 8, 2019Cuckolding, vaccines, the beautiful art created by the child's mind of Rob Schneider and also, vitamins. Dan is really enjoying this show and is fascinated by the inhuman cruelty Rob enacts on others.... Our guest has a run at predicting what's happening next ep and Tim can't get over what Rob says to his wife in this episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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today you ready okay let's go the hunt for the wildest movie of the summer everybody
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Hello and welcome to the, is it fifth?
Yeah, the fifth episode of the second season of Overlooked and Undercooked,
a critical analysis of Rob Schneider's attempt at making an autobiographical show on Netflix.
I guess it's not an attempt because he did it. He did the damn thing.
It's completed.
It's out there in the world.
Two full seasons.
My name is Tim Baird.
I'm Guy Montgomery and we're joined by a very special guest.
The inimitable Dan Rath.
Oh, thanks for using the word inimitable.
Well, I would argue it's true.
Oh, wow. What does that word mean?
I genuinely don't know. It is impossible to imitate the unique comedy stylings of young Ben Rath.
Well, thank you, Guy Montgomery.
And also, what a top shelf word.
Oh, yeah.
Like it's high level.
It's $2 vocab that he's using.
I only reach for the top shelf when I'm around you, Dan.
Huge stuff.
Now, I've got to say, this is the fifth episode we've watched today.
And that was the most laughs we've had during an episode.
And I would,
I would credit a lot of that to you,
you know,
the company you keep.
Dan,
you were finding a lot of joy in this show and you were shining it on us.
Yeah.
Was I shining the light on the joy that could be accessed?
Yeah,
yeah.
You showed me a world I didn't know where we could extract genuine comedy value from being in the company of real rob oh yeah is
that what it's called that's the name of the show yeah it is okay i'm just yeah it's called the real
rob the the episode we just watched was called uh coffee business in which a jealous rob keeps
tabs on patricia's new soap opera gig stalker gives robert tip about very special a very special
copy making process uh can you can you please give me your honest comedic assessment of that Rob keeps tabs on Patricia's new soap opera gig. Stalker gives Rob a tip about a very special copy-making process.
Can you please give me your honest comedic assessment of that episode?
It's interesting, coming into the show,
I am a fan of Rob Schneider, so I'll get that.
Like, I've always liked, you know, Juice Bigelow.
Absolutely.
And, like, his Adam Sandler cameo stuff.
So I've come in predisposed.
You've liked it.
I think everyone in this room has liked it at a time,
but you've liked it steadily till now.
Well, I thought he disappeared for a bit.
I didn't know where he was post Bigelow.
Just fucking.
Post Bigelow.
Post Bigelow, what was he?
Do you know what his career arc?
He's been popping up.
He pops up in Od in odds and ends.
He does a little bit of stand-up.
He was in Grown Ups 1, but not Grown Ups 2.
He wasn't in...
I think I've seen Grown Ups 2.
I think I liked it.
Yeah?
I can't remember, though.
Do you know that guy?
I've seen that 52 times.
No way.
Yeah.
That's our original podcast project,
is just watching and reviewing the same movie over again
That was the first movie we did
And you just kept reviewing it
Yeah man
In different ways
Well we talk about it mostly
The episodes are all different
My god
Yeah
We've literally seen it 52 times
You liked it
Growing Ups?
Two
I think I
Yeah I think I liked it
Let's talk about that instead
Fuck this show
No no no This show I found interesting Yeah Like think I liked it Let's talk about that instead Fuck this show No no no
This show I found interesting
Yeah
Like in a strange
Well go on
So what's your
What's your honest analysis
Um
Look I think
You're predisposed to like Schneider
I'm predisposed
Look I think
On every technical measure
It's awful
Like on every like
Criteria sheet
It's
It's the wrong
Thing But in a weird way That can lead to Like on every criteria sheet, it's the wrong thing.
But in a weird way, that can lead to laughter because it's so wrong.
Yeah.
Like it's so badly put together.
You admire it as a whole.
I admire it and also just that his character is so irredeemable and so unlikable.
Like there's no mitigating factors of his personality
where you're like oh actually he's quite nice to do you know what i mean it's all bad purity
there's a purity to just his pettiness and he's just awful cruel borderline criminal
cruelty to another man and i guess that's is that acceptable just because it's a guy that's his age man i'm
not sure what the show how it justifies i don't think it is like it's acceptable because no one's
watching the show yeah it's i guess it's um i mean you could read it multiple ways you could
read it as a real class commentary and the fact that rob schneider's got millions of dollars and he's hired a pa who a couple episodes i don't mind telling you dan a couple episodes ago he
took his health insurance away and just to cut costs and this is a man who routinely
beats the shit out of a different new exciting ways of episodes see even when you said he
this a couple of episodes he took his health insurance away. That's funny to me that that was a plot point.
You've immediately, you've leapt to the level of the show
and you've discovered the game,
which is how bad of a person can I be
and how high can I make this person's life?
And because those are the terms and conditions being offered to us,
you're saying, well, if that's what it's going to be,
I'm going to make hay with this.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to, if that's what, yeah, if that, I mean that, but that is going to be i'm going to make hay with this yeah yeah i'm gonna if that's what yeah if
that i mean that but that that is going to be the reason no one watches it as well because it's
impossible it's impossible to engage with it's impossible to engage with the character he says
to his wife you should be the one undumb whore in this episode yeah i mean that's staggering
in reference to,
he's giving her advice for an audition.
So he paints himself unsurprisingly
in an unfavorable light
as a sort of jealous and paranoid husband.
His wife, Patricia,
who's slowly climbing the ranks.
Oh, Patricia.
We haven't gotten to the bottom of this.
Different people call you different names.
Is that a,
do you reckon that's a deliberate choice on that?
It doesn't seem to be.
It's hard to know what's deliberate
and what is just an accident of editing with the show.
She's climbing the ranks as a performer
and she's got an audition in a soap opera
that is quite a steamy sort of almost telenovela style show
and she'll be acting against this hunk
and he becomes paranoid that he doesn't want to do any kissing scenes
so he gives her bad advice
which was a scene that for how abhorrent it was,
did extract some laughs from the room
where he sort of suggests that maybe the way to play the character
is not as dumb whore or whatever his hair take is.
And that you should be the one undumb whore.
But instead he suggests that she plays them as differently abled
and does the voice.
Sensational. Yeah, that's a a sensational and that's why we were
saying that it's fearless it's fearless comedy uninhibited unchecked you just don't see that
these days so you don't see someone taking on the persona for comedy purposes of someone who's sort
of mentally deficient well it's the type of thing that if someone did in a stand-up set,
it would completely ruin the set for them.
Yeah, if they did now, they must put on the ears of irony.
And so I think what makes it fearless is that it's like there's no winking.
There's no ears that they're aware that what they're doing is wrong.
It's like, no, we're playing this straight for laughs.
Oh, yeah, there's no there's
no other level to it yeah it's all direct but direct comedy you know to take it another way
when you're that fucking stupid is it not like we're kind of looking at the product of a child's
mind and that itself is an interesting piece of art like a drawing that you put on the fridge
this show yeah right i see like yeah you
get a two-year-old draws you a picture with felt tip pens or crayons and there is something special
about it because you're like it's quite an amazing thing to look into the mind of someone so young
and they've produced some kind of piece of visual media and it's sort of the same with the show
it's just like you are it's so fucking thick that it's quite interesting to see yeah what the
product is that's that's a good take on why it's funny well that's that's the only way to watch it
is to be like well if nothing else i am seeing a representation of and i this is a macaroni tie on netflix yeah again it almost
does deviate back to you know the limits of not the limits of free speech but it's like it is
interesting to see rob schneider's mind you know unfiltered and unedited but at the same time it's
like because he can it doesn't mean he should no He's, I mean, it's a generous interpretation too.
Are you glad it exists then?
I'm glad.
Yeah.
I like things that exist that are strange.
And I was not aware of this show.
So, okay.
Will you watch more?
I'll have to watch it ironically with someone.
You wouldn't just quietly, you know know go home and tuck one away now
it'd be it's a bit of a commitment to just do solo do you know what i mean like it's something
that needs to be shared yeah in the same way like i wouldn't necessarily watch the room
the movie the room by myself it's sort of a communal There's a necessity in almost watching it with someone else to go see.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Whereas genuinely good content, you can watch by yourself.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a triumph of the form.
There was one moment that I think you could even strip from the context of being in the show Real Rob that was funny.
Although, actually, no, no, I say that.
I don't know.
But Rob adopts
a cat in the show and uh do we wanted to can we try and get dan to sum up the yep is that right
yeah yeah do you want to we like to get this we like to get our guests to just go what happened
in the set well i yeah from what I can garnish from it,
he's playing a semi-fictionalised version of himself.
Yeah.
Like, he's a rich celebrity.
Like, he's... Yeah, and then his wife is his actual wife.
And...
And co-writer.
And co-writer.
Writer.
And, yeah, and basically he's got an assistant who seems to be a big part of it.
Yeah.
And he's just the object of, like, he's just basically a target.
Literally a punching bag.
A punching bag.
Like, he's basically putting cigarettes out on him.
Yeah.
It's like human rights violation, basically.
But, yeah, and then his wife is trying to get a role on a movie and then his the show is overshadowed by his paranoia about being
cuckolded by the other guy in the potential movie and um and he's also throughout that as well he's
got a hypochondriacal obsession and you that's something you you saw and you said you know he's also, throughout that as well, he's got a hypochondriacal obsession.
And that's something you saw and you said you know he's a hypochondriac.
You know that Rob Schneider himself is a hypochondriac.
Yeah, from my voracious podcast listening,
I think I heard him talking about vitamins
or someone saying that he was obsessed with vitamins.
You heard him on a, like, guesting on a podcast?
I think I just heard someone say that he was obsessed with vitamins you heard him on a like guesting on a podcast I think I just heard someone say that he was obsessed
with minerals and like
vitamin and he does he peppers
information he truly believes
in through the show
through the semi-autobiographical
version of himself
right that's something you've noticed from previous
yeah because you said that he was
an anti-vaxxer yes
I think it's important for all of our guest comedians
who come on to know that.
I think you've got to just set a bit of framework by going...
What are your thoughts on vaccinations, Dan?
I support them, but I am...
I wasn't...
No, I've never been on the offence about them,
but I also think at the same time, you know,
let's have a look at big pharma
like we can't we put people in these camps yeah like do you know what i mean like say if you're
like yeah big pharma i'm not like hugely on board with my i'm with you they're peddling of oxycontin
or whatever they there is a link autism is caused by vaccines and and dan reth
you're absolutely right when you say that you're correct i have i have said it uh in public many
many times that they do cause it but it's not a personal belief it's just something i like to say
publicly
define comedy Define comedy
It does lead to social ostracism
Having that belief
But it's worth it right?
It does
I think it's worth it just to upset people
To know you're right
Yeah to know you're right
What's the compensation for that?
A feeling of mental clarity?
You don't get autism?
Yes.
If you are so steadfastly believing
that you are correct.
You won't get it.
Your prize is you don't get autism.
They think autism's like chicken pox.
They're like running...
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who's they, Dan?
Let's dig into this.
Well, I'd like to call them
my friends and colleagues,
but no, no.
The anti-vaxxers. The anti-vaxxer community
My family
I call them my family
Stay away from my family
But I call them my family
In just a familial
Sort of
Like we have an empathic
Sure
Connection
In New Zealand we have a word called whanau
And your whanau
All of the anti-vaxxers.
Whānau?
Whānau.
It's sort of a...
Today, Māori...
It's our indigenous language sort of word for family
but it's more far-reaching than the English word.
It doesn't have to be as biologically literal.
Now you're speaking my language
because that's what I meant by my family.
I don't mean I'm related to anti-vaxxers.
Although you are as well.
Although I am.
Well, this is taking an enjoyable side path.
Well, anti-vaxxers are interesting because they've got like a hippie vibe to them a little bit.
Do you know what I mean?
They've got a bit of a...
Live and let live kind of.
Some of them would have dreadlocks and be playing acoustic guitar kind of thing.
Yeah.
Like an anti-vaxxer.
You can have dreadlocks and hold any variety of opinions.
Usually you don't.
Like I know what you mean.
Yeah, there's not.
It's a stereotype not often associated with sort of aggression.
And I would say, no, I think they are.
The anti-vaxxers that I've seen are pretty fucking angry.
They're angry. And they fucking angry. They're angry.
And they're committed.
They're committed.
They're sort of part Byron Bay hippie, like, chilled out, crystal healing thing.
And then they're also part crypto-fascist.
Yes.
Do you know what I mean?
So it's an interesting ideological grab bag of views.
It's an interesting ideological kilt work,
netting of different...
So if I could just sort of get you back on track
and outline the episode.
Fuck you, Montgomery.
I'm enjoying this a lot.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, I just got excited.
Did this go...
You're all good, mate.
You just plug it back in.
It's fine.
I'm paranoid about
Plugs
Sorry
But like
About things not being plugged in
Are you?
For podcasting and so forth
Oh true
Is it something to do
With your childhood Dan?
Should we dig into that?
When I was doing podcasts
As a kid
Yeah is it a little
Sometimes it wouldn't record
Oh man
Did they fuck you up
As a boy or what?
Was that a conversation?
Waste of everyone's time
And energy
It was I always see you Holding back When I run into you On the street I'm like What was that, a conversation? Waste of everyone's time and energy?
I always see you holding back when I run into you on the street.
I'm like, just let rip-rap.
And Dan's like, but guy, you're not recording.
You're not holding any kind of microphone apparatus.
Yeah, what's the point?
What's the point?
If you're not podcasting, why talk to anyone?
Oh, absolutely.
I've been having, you know, when you have a conversation that's so good,
you're like, we need to to Like this should be a podcast
Well you
In between finishing the episode
And starting recording
He says oh so we haven't been
We haven't been recording
No well some podcasts
I don't know if they do record
During the thing
We should have been clearer on that
To be fair
That's our bad
I always feel like
When that happens to me
I always feel like
There's been a sneak attack
Oh yeah
You know when you go in And you're just talking like, you know,
the preamble to the podcast and you haven't put on your…
Classic Marc Maron.
And then you realize you're talking and you think, Jesus Christ, you know.
And it's nice because that first little bit you're not prepared,
but then when you find out there's an adjustment period…
You're like, oh, what did I say about that set of people?
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
What did I say about anti-vaxxers?
Don't want to stir that pot. Noxxers don't want to stir that pot
no
you don't want to stir that pot
but so yeah
so all of this to say
I was trying to
articulate the point where
Rob adopts a cat
because it's the B plot
beyond this
yeah
he's drinking
bulletproof coffee
which is coffee with
butter and coconut oil
this is a real thing you said
yeah yeah
I've had one before
which I found interesting that you've had one.
Why did you find that interesting?
Well, I've fantasized about having one before.
You haven't had one?
I haven't talked to anyone who's had one.
It's just like quite a thick,
it's quite a rich kind of coffee,
but it's meant to substitute a full breakfast.
It's meant to caffeinate you
and sort of satisfy the parts of your body
that need more sustenance.
To facilitate a sort of intermittent fasting lifestyle.
Perhaps, yeah.
Maybe, maybe.
And then his stalker, and this is also another funny plot device, I think.
His stalker from the first season, who we haven't seen a lot of, is no longer stalking him,
but he's using his property to stalk a new person.
The next door neighbour to Rob. That is a funny comedic conceit. in a lot of is no longer stalking him but he's using his property to stalk a new person the next
door neighbor and that is a funny that is funny comedic conceit that is taught you to have a
stalker who's lost interest but is still using you i i agreed with that with what you've just
said that it was a it was comedic well i mean they didn't i don't think i don't think they
get a tick for that well done i don't think they use it to to any real effect but the you know the
basic premise is there.
But he introduced him to the fact that there's one grade above bulletproof coffee,
which is coffee that is passed through some,
I think it was maybe a Peruvian cat's anus.
And so Rob adopts a cat.
He starts feeding it coffee so he can try and get a side hustle where he creates these beans.
And there was one moment where we all laughed
which was when his wife discovers he's got the cat and they go into to look at it after he's
been feeding all of these coffee beans and it's like i almost think it could be funny outside of
real rob of course it was it was undeniably funny and what is it it's a moment of it looks like a combination of a little bit of cg but also
puppetry um like physical practical effects puppetry so you see a cat which is obviously
not real but it looks roughly enough like a cat and it's got fucking suspicious human eyes
darting back and forth and it's got a very interesting mouth as well it had a tongue
coming out it was its tongue coming out and licking its nose sort of weird they've gone like
five percent the way towards anthropomorphizing this cat and that they just kind of did they
elevated the facial features of the cat to enough of a human that you wind up in the uncanny valley
to enough of a human that you wind up in the uncanny valley.
Yes, that's, yeah.
And it was fucking funny.
I didn't expect it.
I didn't see it coming.
It's eyes darting back and forth.
Undeniably hilarious to me.
You couldn't convince me that wasn't funny.
I think anthropomorphizing animals, it's always the gateway to humor, like, in a way.
Do you know, it's such a steady well that's
yeah it's that was like one of ricky gervais's first stand-up specials was just you know animals
doing silly things and him articulating the thought process behind it's like a cheat code to
comedy oh yeah yeah yeah totally and they they do use it well i also think it's funny because it's
like it's an approximation of what you think coffee if so if you drink too much coffee it
might you know like when people who haven't when you're in high school people
who haven't smoked weed or like smoke weed for the first time and nothing happens describe this
like really fanciful notion of what happened and then you know no this but that's not what happens
yeah like rob schneider's never drunk a cup of coffee in his life and he's like i guess this is
what happens maybe to people right it's like the caffeine equivalent of the weed thing where you have one puff of a joint.
And then I was riding a purple dragon around the school.
Exactly.
And then a monster came.
It's like, no, that's PCP.
Yeah.
Mate, I think you might have had some ice actually.
Yeah.
And something else altogether.
Get to the doctor about that.
Weed, you just sort of giggle a little bit.
Did you enjoy the cat though, Dan?
You said that was pretty fucking funny.
The cat?
I thought the cat was...
I think my favourite scene was,
I mean, because of its bizarre cruelty,
was when he fed the new coffee that had been passed.
The first round of the cat anus coffeeus coffee yeah when he gave it to his
hapless boob of an assistant and just the fact that he was drinking it and hated it so much
and he just sort of like very slow and steady build towards telling him what he's drinking
it was so long for the eventual punchline of,
what was it, that just came out of the cat's ass.
That shit just came out of the cat's ass.
You loved that, eh?
I think just for its unmitigated crudity.
Yeah.
Yeah, because that scene went for far too long
and it was such a swift end to it.
It was so glib.
As I was watching it and it was building, I felt like it. It was so glib. As I was watching it,
and it was building,
I felt like it's the same sensation you have
if you're watching a comedian
who you don't trust
building out a really big premise,
and you're like,
there's no,
I can see what's going,
and there's no way.
This plane is too much for you to land.
We've got headwinds,
and you've been bolting on
fucking extra engines,
and seats are here that shouldn't be.
I mean, it looks good.
You know, we're airborne right now, but this...
I understand this is an approximation of a plane, but...
I just love the fact that you're a comedian that you don't trust.
It's true, though.
Yeah, you don't trust him.
Fuck.
Today.
You ready?
Okay, let's go.
The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer.
Everybody run!
Ends here.
This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately.
Borderlands, now playing.
You don't trust him, no.
Yeah.
Oh, look.
Nor should you.
What was your least favourite part of the episode?
I think the shots of...
The unnecessary shots of luxury
that are sort of inter...
Intermittently...
Oh, you don't need to see that?
Well, it's just...
It just seems...
It's like...
I think that it's got a few
examples of you know like it violates that rule of chekhov's gun yeah just describe as well dan
um for the for the like one listener who's listening to this but hasn't watched the program
what shots are you talking about well just um the uh i don't know the shots of the pool or like it'll just have a shot of his like hedges
or like luxurious mansion,
but they don't,
like even you don't need that shot.
It's important that he emphasizes he's doing okay.
Yeah, it's like, don't worry.
At other moments, although not in this episode,
he really wants to emphasize that they're doing great,
but they also want to use a lack of money
as a plot device in various different episodes. This is what I was about doing great, but they also want to use a lack of money as a plot device
in various different episodes.
That's what I was about to say.
They actually don't.
They don't want to shower you with,
look at how well we're doing,
because they try to use Rob Schneider's tightness with money
as a plot device so many times in this series.
You have to pick one.
You can't have gratuitous shots of this beautiful mansion you live in
married to your inability to part with $200 to go to the doctor.
Right.
You've hit on a real thread that I,
now that you've said it, has become apparent,
which was that they did seem to be struggling for money
because part of that cat shit in the coffee
was about some harebrained scheme to get an extra cash.
To get another income stream.
Yeah.
Like the first scene is him dismissing
along both financial and medical reasons.
You know, he says to Patricia,
we need to go on a holiday.
And she starts listing places and he's going,
we can't go there because of this, this, this.
Right.
But do you think that's financial as well?
Sort of.
Yeah, when she goes, Hawaii, he goes, absolutely not.
Yeah, he lists dinghy fever.
He lists...
He's using them as smoke screens.
He is worried about them,
but sometimes he uses the hyperchondrical things.
It's both.
Right, I see what you're saying.
The actual justification is he's too tight,
but he's hiding behind it.
But he used that for the cuckolding as well.
What, money?
Where he said, don't kiss him because he's been... Don't But he used that for the cuckolding as well. What, money? Well, he said don't kiss him because he's been,
don't kiss the other actor in the potential movie she's going to be in.
Which led to a nice little callback at the end.
They always end the show in bed,
and this time they ended in bed in a lake house.
The actor who he was afraid of being cuckolded by,
they borrowed his lake house for a weekend.
Yeah, so the set up is Rob Schneider says to his wife,
don't kiss him because he's probably got a brain-eating amoeba because he lives on a lake house, which means he's been on the lake.
And he's just told me about how he spent 10 hours on the lake.
So he's probably got this brain eating amoeba.
You don't want to catch that.
So don't kiss him.
Yeah.
So that gets set up.
And then later on, they're in the lake house.
They're going to have sex.
And she says, I know.
I saw you fall on the lake.
You've probably got a brain eating amoeba.
I don't want that. Right. And he and he says you win i'll wear a condom
which is interesting because it's yeah what did she say she says you can wear it she says it's
up to you it's up to you i'm not gonna have sex with you yeah yeah but you can wear a condom if
you want yeah that was fucking funny that is pretty good and it's an interesting imagery
our standards are slipping for what isn't funny.
Honestly, I've already mentioned it, I know,
but I just want to put an underline over it.
I mean...
An underline over it?
You know what I'm saying.
Get the highlighter pen out,
and can you guys go to page number 15 of the script?
Calling your both on and off screen wife an undumb whore is insane.
And a fucking Netflix show that was released two years ago.
Mate.
Like, this is crazy stuff we're dealing with.
If that's, you know, the hill you choose to die on, then so be it.
But it's treatment of various different, you know, pockets of society.
It's like, he is nothing if not even handed.
This is why we can call him fearless
because it's like he doesn't care who he's trampling on all in the name of like i guess
he's a madman oh yes he's lunatic he's sort of like when you see like a boat act
like throw just just doing stuff that's crazy cruise ship comedian you mean yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah do what come on land what? Come on land and...
Yeah, come on land because they've been at sea for so long.
Like the values haven't been updated.
Have you seen this in...
Like on international waters or whatever?
Have you seen this in person?
Well, yeah.
I just saw a guy do a bit about how they should send women into war rather than men.
But do it because like all their periods sync up.
Here we go.
So you could airdrop them into Syria
and then the ISIS would just shoot themselves
because no one can put up with that shit.
Oh, wow.
Fucking hell.
And I remember this guy was like,
this guy's been at sea
For a long time
Both figuratively
And literally
He is all at sea
How did that play in the room
His mind had been
Marinating in just
A bath of
Beer and prawns
And international waters
And international waters
Nigh on nine months
He was seizing
A human gestation period
And international waters
It's true, though.
And this is also...
Time goes differently on the water, I think.
It's still the 80s or 90s.
It's exacerbated by the fact that the cruise ships are populated by...
It's Boomerfest on the water, isn't it?
Boomer's Plus, yeah.
Boomer Paradise.
You must be this old to ride the boat.
That's it.
Your opinions must be this fucked to gain entry.
There's no bloggers on a P&O crew.
Absolutely.
You don't get a lot of Twitter activists.
Vice Documentary.
No, absolutely not.
You're not getting a lot of SBS pictures written on a...
Isn't it funny to think that Vice is now this paragon of
principle
like Vice started
as one of the most
like
subversive
yeah yeah
but also
you know
they were out there
their whole
not columns
is how they got
their name made
and they were not
exactly you know
sensitive to all types
as Vice is branded now
yeah
their um
who's the main guy
there's two guys
who started it
and one of them
he's gone way after Gavin McGinn yeah yeah oh fuck no isn't he the Proud Boys guy Yeah, who's the main guy? There's two guys who started it, and one of them is slightly...
He's gone way after Boyle.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, fuck, no, isn't he the Proud Boys guy?
Yeah, he used to be an ashamed man, now he's a Proud Boy.
That's what he...
Did he co-found Vice?
Yeah.
I was talking about the other guy.
Oh.
That guy's real fucked, but the other...
He's sort of not very tall, he's a bit bigger,
I think he's balding, he's got a beard. Don't know who that is. He's a bit bigger. I think he's balding.
He's got a beard.
I don't know who that is. He's slightly fucked as well.
They've all gone a bit...
I didn't even know Vice was a paragon of...
Yeah, I was just struggling for references.
It wasn't the right one.
It wasn't the one I was looking for when I was thinking of blogs.
I was thinking...
I was going to say Frankie magazine.
Maybe...
But I think it's too local.
I'm not familiar with Frankie.
Maybe, fuck, what is it called?
No.
Jezebel?
Thank you.
That's what I was thinking of.
Maybe Jezebel.
Daily Beast?
They're not taking a lot of P&O cruises.
Huffpo?
Oh, Jezebel, yeah.
But.
What a laboured fucking gag.
It's a bit of a soft target too,
like a 65-year-old guy that's got early onset dementia,
but he can still remember his set.
From 20 years ago.
Because he's been doing it so long,
that part of the brain is the last bit to rot away.
He's forgotten the name of his firstborn,
but he's still got that gag about dropping a bunch of women
into ruckaaka i think he
updated it to like i might be doing him a favor by giving him the syria update yeah like he might
have said iran like something he's probably talking about the first punching up this guy
punching up this guy's gear he was he was doing it during reagan the reagan years and it's just
come back around i'd like to ask you a question.
As a Rob Schneider fan,
do you think that what Tim and I are doing here
and picking apart the show, are we punching down?
No, because punching down needs to have an economic metric attached to it.
Like, if you're...
Do you know what I mean?
Like, if you're a billionaire and you've got an IQ of 95,
it's not punching down to have a go yeah like because we forget the economic element of punching up and
down you know what i mean yeah absolutely this is what literally everyone has said when we've asked
it's interesting has everyone actually said the same thing well quite a few people have said not
with the same words i thought i was a snowflake Like, just unique, I mean
Nina said like the exact same
She voiced the exact same idea
That it's like, no, this guy's rich
And fuck them
Yeah
You know?
And he's probably very happy too
I don't know
Is he?
I don't think he's happy
Really?
I really don't
Do you think because he doesn't have the respect,
because he knows it's not?
I don't know.
I'd love to see a conversation between Adam Sandler
behind closed doors.
He actually had a small cameo in Sandler's Netflix special.
They strung him from the roof, didn't they?
Yeah, he came in on a song.
And that's, you know, like,
because you always hear about them
falling out and patching it up but they're both like you know the way that schneider runs his
production company in this show is derivative from the way santa does it's all inclusive to
his family like he supports the people around him as best he can um sure i think it's cute
it is cute and it's good i think santa does a better job because his movies are wildly successful
so he can actually look after other families,
but Schneider's literally looking after his own wife and child.
It's a roll of the dice because you could alienate everyone in doing that.
I think Sandler is more, yeah, like you said,
he's helping a lot of people.
There's a lot of people relying on him at this point.
That's kind of the point that we got to when we were watching Grown Ups 2. This guy's actually putting bread on the table for a lot of people relying on him at this point. That's kind of the point that we got to when we were watching Grown Ups 2.
This guy's actually putting bread on the table for a lot of people.
This is upsetting to us, but he's ultimately doing a good.
Is that Adam Sandler?
Yeah, it was Grown Ups 2.
Oh, Grown Ups 2, right.
Specifically.
I think what incites people about Sandler is that he has these self-referential or self-aware moments
like in Funny People or he puts out a special like he did last year.
It's like you obviously still have the capacity for greatness
and you choose not to use it like nine times out of ten.
That is a great thing.
And I think maybe it's an analogy,
but I think Nicolas Cage does the same thing.
Yeah.
Like he does these nine movies based on like Christian apocalyptic novel,
pulp novels,
and then does Bad Lieutenant or whatever.
But Schneider is the inverse
where it's like,
if he keeps going,
sometimes something lands.
But there's no control.
And there's no indication that it's,
yeah.
A broken clock is right twice a day.
There we go.
That's what it is
with Sandler
that when he hits
he hits so acutely
and so well
that you're like
fuck
the dude knows
there's still
the man is still
inside this brain
but with
with Rob Schneider
he will
accidentally trip over
a proper joke
1% of the time
but he doesn't know
he's fucking doing it
and that's very obvious
he's the literal embodiment of the comedian you don't trust.
And we're spending half an hour with him
on the hour, every hour right now.
Yeah, so through sheer statistical magnitude
just stumbling into comedy.
Dan, can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
We've got the title of the next episode,
which is episode six, just up here.
It says Authentic Self.
What do you...
Just take a fucking stab.
Based on what you've seen here today,
what do you think happens in Authentic Self, episode six?
Not...
Because I haven't seen two...
If I think if I'd seen two episodes,
I might have a better...
Like, just to know, do they do callbacks?
No.
To previous shows?
I'll tell you this.
No, absolutely not.
They don't.
Highly episodic.
Everything's contained.
Reset to one.
Or reset to zero.
Right, so there'll be no, like, that cat won't be there anymore.
Wow.
It'll be as if the cat never existed.
Because in Curb, there's a continuity.
Yeah.
If there's...
Yeah.
There is not here.
So, have you seen this next episode? continuity. Yeah. If there's, yeah. There is not here. So, um,
what,
so have you seen this next episode?
No.
You want me just to guess what?
Just take a stab.
I would guess,
I'm just gonna,
this is kind of random,
but I guess that he gets into spirituality or something.
Like maybe meditating and it doesn't go,
it goes awry.
How does it go awry?
The meditation teacher tries to cuckold his wife again.
No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
No, this actually sounds very likely.
Tell me about the teacher.
Or he gets into yoga or some sort of pseudo-spiritual thing
and then they just reuse the same plot device from this
where he's just another
similarly sort of jealously provoking mediterranean vibe kind of you know steal your wife thing
that would be that's my random that's our a plot what else happens in authentic south what's the B plot? I reckon he's going to stab his assistant with something.
Fucking A.
Absolutely.
He's going to bleed.
Yes.
The assistant is going to be badly injured.
Yes.
I guarantee that's going to happen.
I could put money on that.
I'd put a sports bet on that.
What do you reckon he'll stab him with?
Because I reckon it'll be something interesting.
It might be like
an incense stick
or something
for the meditation.
Like he'll burn,
he'll put it out
on his chest
or whatever.
I'll tell you what,
not one,
maybe two episodes ago
actually,
he fucking had a hand
at doing DIY acupuncture
because he fucked his back.
Really?
So Rob was just
stabbing metal rods
into his back.
So I've predicted another episode earlier. It another episode probably they'll just do it again they'll just reuse they will the same tired you don't need to put more time
into imagining this plot than you would imagine rob and the creative team do so your work here
is done well i've been very generous in saying that I like certain elements as well. Like, I could be harsher, you know?
Of course.
No, but your energy was welcome.
A breath of fresh air in what has been an exhausting day.
Yeah.
Really?
Oh, absolutely.
This has been energetically exhausting on you guys.
Yes.
Of course.
Reviewing these.
Yeah.
Is that because of the air of cynicism?
Have you had guests each time?
Yeah.
Except for the first one one it was just us
i mean the thing is dan we did know what we're getting ourselves into because we've we watched
the first season last year um so we we knew what was coming and yeah look we are bringing a
air of cynicism to this project but that is based on you know prior knowledge it's not based on
nothing yeah it's evidence-based oh absolutely and i have tried really hard to um insulate our
guests from my opinions and guys opinions but at the end of the day this thing just sucks
dick massively and there's kind of no escaping that there's no getting around
that
yeah yeah
don't you think
yeah there is no way
around it ultimately
it's a hard thing
to navigate around
how much
this sucks
yeah it is
it is
it's uncompromisingly bad
fuck
well I'd like to leave
you all with a quote
from the show
and this is when he is trying to
explain to the man who he fears will cold him that they don't want to go to his lake house because
uh you know that they've already got plans i've got a lot on and he says oh well patricia actually
told me that you uh you don't you have trouble getting away and rob schneider says yeah well
she's a fucking liar that's outstanding
that was the quote
of the episode
well chose
Dan how can people
find you online
mainly
only
yeah through Twitter
basically is my main
that's how I communicate now
what's your handle on there
what are we punching on
at DRathComics
fantastic
yeah
Dan Rath
thank you so much
for joining us
yeah
oh thanks for having me
on this podcast experience
I'd say
our pleasure
but I'd be a fucking liar
it's been my pleasure Today.
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