The Worst Idea Of All Time - 6: Authentic Self w/ Ed Gamble (Overlooked and Undercooked S2E6)
Episode Date: November 15, 2019Welcome to Rob Schneider's comedy guesses featuring Ed Gamble. Non-Real Rob virgin Ed tries to figure out the production method for the show and wants to know if Rob really knows the name of the featu...red chef in this episode or if they're just calling him the name of a restaurant. Hayley Duff is here and so is a cough from Alice Snedden. Catch Ed’s comedy special, Blood Sugar on Amazon Prime and follow him on Twitter @EdGambleComedy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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What episode was that? Episode 6.
Welcome to episode 6 of Overlooked and Undercooked, I believe.
My name is Tim Batt.
I'm Guy Montgomery and we're recording live in the prestigious Crown Plaza, King's Cross, London
England. Just
what has been a pretty tremendous break
between drinks for us here. Six months
I think. At Real Rob Incorporated.
To those of you listening to the season
sequentially, we will have probably
just hung up our microphones after a conversation
with I believe Dan Rath
over episode 5, Coffee
Beans. Good memory.
I remember what happened, too.
There we were in Melbourne, and Monty said,
should we go and have a beer?
And I said...
We'd watched five fucking episodes of Real Rob in a day.
I was like, yeah, let's go and have a beer.
And then we had a beer, and then we ran out of time.
And now we're here in London,
and we've got a young upstart, up-and-coming comedian
who we've invited to young upstart up-and-coming comedian who we've
invited to a guest on this sort of with this next episode yeah that's right you might know him from
off menu or whenever this gets released the current or most recent or second to last or
third to last season of taskmaster everybody it's ed gamble oh hey guys hey ed hey ed can i just say
the most modern feeling of anxiety in the world is when you're a guest on a podcast,
but you're waiting to be introduced and the hosts are introducing it.
I don't think we did a particularly good job either of sort of bringing you in.
No, I thought it was great.
And I thought you got to me quite quickly because I've been on a few where there's like 10 minutes of chat
and they're catching up.
Will you often leave sort of little noises on?
You know, the worst feeling in the world. I'll laugh even when i don't think it's funny just to be like i'm here
remember guys i exist i i kick in the door you know the idea that you're not allowed to introduce
yourself on podcasts this isn't radio this isn't some sort of formal medium this is you know that's
the point isn't it yeah there's no rule the rule book, throw it out the podcast window.
I like following the rules.
Okay.
I think podcasts have been around long enough now where we need to start following the rules.
Name names.
Who's keeping you waiting 10 minutes before you're allowed to bring in?
Rosie Jones and Helen Bower's podcast.
It's called Daddy, Please Look at Me.
And it's a very funny podcast, but they were talking for up to 15 minutes.
And to keep me quiet while they were talking,
Helen Bauer made me do a word puzzle on her phone.
Like a child.
That's performance art at that point.
Your silence and your enthusiasm for the rules,
I'm sure,
was probably part of a wider narrative between episodes.
I fell for it as well.
I was doing the word game.
I was like,
I'm really enjoying the word game.
And I solved it.
I was really pleased with myself.
The worst of both worlds
You're just about to crack the puzzle
And then they go
Welcome to the podcast
Ed Gamble
I hate to move us on prematurely
But we're approaching the three minute mark
I can't help but notice
We haven't broached the sort of format
The whole reason detray for us being here
So that was episode six of season two of Real Rob
Before we launch into a conversation,
does anyone here remember the title of the episode?
Yes, I do.
It was Authentic Self, I believe.
That's right.
And I guess a place to start would be asking you,
what did you, prior to half an hour ago,
know about the Real Rob universe?
I have seen the first episode of real rob
season one season one huh the first episode you didn't stick with it i didn't stick with it no
interestingly i saw it with nish kumar when we lived together we watched it and we couldn't
believe it was a thing and even now it seems like some sort of crazy fever dream yeah this does
actually put you into quite a sweet spot though because traditionally the first episode of anything it's quite challenging
to establish the parameters of the show the world of the show the rules of the show so you know
between that and i'd say what is it it'll be you know there's 12 episodes or whatever between that
and now yeah how far have we come well i mean i don't feel like i've missed anything in the interim period
really i don't there's certain aspects of it now that i don't remember being so prevalent in episode
one um here's a question i guess you don't know how they film it but it seems like they
they my friends i think they but they do they do it a take line by line they and they stitch it
all together because the pauses between the lines are quite incredible i think yeah rob schneider's
in charge and i understand the only way he knows how to operate is sequentially so he's he's
literally across every single job on set yeah so if even one cog gets moved out of place,
the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.
But he'll say a line and there'll be a pause.
They'll cut to his wife.
She'll pause.
She'll say a line and so on and so on.
It makes for a pretty good edit though.
Can you imagine the editor being in there being like,
mate, this is awesome.
When you say the editor, do you mean Rob Schneider?
When Rob Schneider opens up iMovie,
he's got all of these just clean audio points
where he can cut to the next shot.
But it's like,
my knowledge of Rob Schneider previously
was just doing one line in Adam Sandler films.
You didn't explore a slightly further off path
into his solo vehicles?
The animal?
The hot chick?
No, not seen the hot chick.
Juice Bigelow? I've seen
Juice Bigalow. And? Well, it's
obviously awful. Did you love it though when you saw it?
Oh yeah, I watched it all the way through.
It's a huge bitch! You're not allowed to
laugh at that. There you go. At the time though.
Yeah.
This isn't one of those
podcasts, guy. No, I know.
You know, do you remember how things were back
in the 90s here we go but
it's like he's recorded him doing a series of cameo lines in his own sitcom yeah well it's all
he knows isn't it yeah so that's when he's most relaxed when he's just like you just come in you
do one line so he's just in and out the whole time you know what though so in this episode he
laps some fake whiskey because he's in a set on the film and quite a meta sort of
analysis of his method many layers deep he looks at like a cat and i have to say it was probably
the strongest performance that he had in there a bit of physical comedy and he was committed to it
and i think um as ludicrous as the action was even within context it made zero sense sure but it was
the funniest thing he did what so but then he did it again yes so then
then he sipped the whiskey and spat it out it's a classic rub what this sitcom has a little bit
of a problem with is setting up a joke and then unpacking it yes until the suitcase is empty and
then filling the suitcase back up again and unpacking it's like getting in the suitcase
euphemistic british language saying what the sitcom has a little bit of a problem so I think
what was it
you developed a bit
of a catchphrase
for what he does
what was it
it was like
five times the charm
was like well like
you know rule of seven
or something
yeah
I think it's
yeah
Rob Schneider's comedy
rule of seven
yeah I think it's
if you
I don't know
if you try the same
gag seven times
eventually one of them will hit well that's every scene isn't it so this is the scene with the
children in this episode where he goes in to give like a speech to the children about their dreams
and excitement and then obviously top line is rob's insensitive to the children do it with all
the children out you get including by the way we can't be having that referring to a kid as an Indian kid
and the kid says, I'm Pakistani,
and says they're the same thing.
This show famously made last year.
Just to hear the year of our Lord 2018.
The swift pivot from being on set
on some film within the TV show
to in a classroom delivering a speech.
For those listening along who haven't watched the series,
maybe just to centre us, you could give us a brief plot synopsis of the episode uh actual self i
would love i would love to best of luck ed i'm praying for you so his wife's away filming
something which is that is set up at the beginning of the episode as if that's going to be a major
plot point but it is just set up to get her offset
for a bit so clearly she she's having some time off i know that i've just given you this task and
i hate to immediately interrupt but the storytelling technique he's is literally he launches several
balls into the air at the start of the episode and it's whatever he remembers he's well he just
well in this episode he's just watched them all fall to the ground he's got like eight balls yeah there's always one in the air but he can never remember what
are those balls there for and then it's set up that he's going to this school to give a talk
to them about their excitement projects which i think for any other sitcom that would be that
which I think for any other sitcom that would be
come on Alice
I think for any other sitcom that would be like
a whole episode right or like half an episode
but it's one scene
they set it all up in the scene
in the bed at the beginning
him and his wife are talking and you're like we know that's set up
his wife's going away and so Rob
which is outside of his ordinary purview
is responsible for child
care and all sorts of sort of domestic chores that are usually beyond his i mean reach and this is a
point that tim constantly made throughout the episode is rob has written like this is rob
schneider's starring vehicle oh yeah and he has chosen to write the character as you know because
we're in a time in television where people embrace antiheroes and whatnot.
Sure.
And he's written a character.
But, you know, there's no complexity to this antihero.
It's just this, like, unrelenting curmudgeon.
But it seems, I think, and I like it.
I like an antihero.
I like it when people write themselves as arseholes or whatever.
So, like, you know, curb your enthusiasm or something like that.
But what he's done, it's like he's writing it
as if he thinks
he's a good guy
exactly
so he's writing
an arsehole character
but by accident
yeah
it's a beautiful mind
yeah
Rob Schneider
it's like
it's mental illness
isn't it
because if the very
if the very tool
with which you perceive
reality is broken
then you're really at sea
aren't you
because then you have
no yard your yardstick is broken the looking're really at sea aren't you because then you have no yard your yardstick is
broken the looking glass is cracked yes yeah so how will we even determine what a villain is anymore
but he's turning a mirror on himself but the mirror is a piece of wood the most beautiful
part of it is though he's circumvented any element of that being a problem in the production process
by literally taking control of every facet of the production.
At no point can anyone say,
Rob, this doesn't work
because the only person who's allowed to say that
is Rob Schneider himself.
So I think there's two more plot points
that we need to cover.
One, Adam Sandler calls him
and says...
Huge for us.
Very exciting to see.
You guys lost it then.
I mean, you know that Adam Sandler had 100 unanswered emails.
Fine, if you'll stop getting in touch with me, I'll fucking drop in for a scene.
I'll only film the scene by myself on the phone.
And it's on a green screen.
Well, he's got two scenes and one of them's obviously a green screen.
But also, it really makes you appreciate Adam Sandler.
He is such a good guy
when you put him up
against Schneider's
performance
it's mind blowing
isn't it
yeah
so are you well
about the Sandman
he's not Rob Schneider
and that's important
yeah so
he's sort of
because I think
one of the
elements of pathos
we meant to care about
is Rob's career
is kind of stalling
his wife's career
seems to be kicking off
she was in that soap opera the last episode.
The soap opera's flown her out to San Diego to shoot the finale or whatever.
And Adam Sandler, so successful that nothing matters to him.
His life is, like, you know, there's...
We see him, he's flying a big old drone, kicking back in a lounger.
Which is what we'd all do if we had this money, right?
Yeah, and he's got the chef from Nobu at his house.
He brings out a plate of sushi and he goes, I wanted this for the chef from nobu yeah at his house he brings a plate of
sushi and he goes i wanted this for later was i supposed to know what nobu was because i just
assumed i had missed something earlier in the year it's a it's a i think it's a semi-famous
uh californian sushi eatery that's quite like there's one in london too like kind of michelin
star yeah like yeah really nice sushi like food. Here's what I want to know.
Is there a chef actually called Nobu?
Is that who that guy was?
Or was it just a Japanese man?
I think undoubtedly option B.
Because it's bad enough just getting a random guy to be the stand-in for the chef,
but if they're just calling a random guy
the name of the restaurant...
No, because that's half the gag in this is that these
racism well yeah it's a good always they're assholes like adam sandler seems to be enjoying
playing himself and to be fair that's something that adam sandler enjoys doing he constantly
well he's relishing i think he can do it from the place of security. He is actually a good guy. Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, if you've seen 100% Fresh,
his...
What's that?
It's his Netflix special.
Sandler's special?
Oh, was that that awesome one that he did recently?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His humanity and his love of his family
shines through the whole thing.
Yeah.
What Rob Schneider has shown off
of his relationship to his family
is just, like, unwavering resentment and
fury at the life he has created for himself and disgust at every component part of it he's very
bitter isn't he he feels like a man who has made his bed and hates the bed yeah he's pissed in the
like it's no one's fault it's an unforced error but you can kind of understand how he got there emotionally
because, as Guy mentioned earlier,
he did have a string of commercial hits.
I owned three of his movies on VHS.
I was a Schneider fan.
Yeah.
There was a time when I'd see anything he made.
And I'm sort of going back in the archives now a little bit,
but from memory of our research,
they dropped him from grown-ups too
because of some unpleasantness, I think.
There was some sort of miscommunication,
but he's in Sandler's, you know, like that.
I think, you know.
He's in the special, is he?
He's in the special.
He sort of does one line.
He flies in.
He flies in on some sort of, is it not a trapeze?
What's it called when people fly?
What is it called when people fly what's it called when people fly
it's on a wire
on a wire
they're called wires
wings
we've derailed
the plot
the plot summation
once more
yeah because we've
not even
hit the actual
main plot strand
which is he's
filming an independent
movie right
oh yeah
so how did that
I think I might
have been opening
a beer very
focused on that
when that happened
what happened there
he's just there's no other set setup other than he's filming an independent movie but the through line
is he so when he's reckoning with his jealousy of his wife's success he's like well i've got this
you know i've got this great role in this independent thing and then when he's talking
to sandler and sandler goes i'm going to greece i'm going to go on holiday i'm doing whatever
the fuck i want because i met him sandler he's going yeah well i've sort of got this role i'm
still independent so you know this is like
I think he's using it
to temper jealousy
but then the second half
of the episode
with absolutely no set up for it
and the very long
16 minute first half
of the episode
is him on set
and it's a
it's a testament
to this episode
that Sandler's
barely even the biggest draw
on screen
in terms of cameos
Michael Madsen yeah. Michael Madsen.
Yeah.
Actual Michael Madsen rocks up.
He just looks incredible.
He looks mad.
Runs through that scene.
It's not a long one, but it feels like a lot is in there.
What does Rob Schneider have on Michael Madsen?
What are you doing here, Michael?
I don't really know.
Michael Madsen is in every Quentin Tarantino film.
But I don't know, apart from that,
what he's actually doing.
So I think he's ready to go.
When Rob Schneider drops you an email,
you're going to play yourself.
Sounds like a lot of fun.
You're going to play yourself.
We're going to shoot it sequentially.
In and out.
I realise he's a good actor.
Funnily enough, I sort of missed his role,
but Alice Nen was helpfully watching the episode with us as well
and providing some colour commentary, as we we call it but we had just seen um alice nennan beaming after retreating
into her shell for that cough that we just saw we just saw once upon a time in hollywood the
latest tarantino movie obviously he's he's a really fantastic actor but it felt beyond acting the rueful anger
which he directs at Rob Schneider
in the scene which is all about Rob Schneider
kind of being a piece of shit on set
and it felt a bit too real
oh it was definitely real
and also he was clearly
just doing every line once
so there's a couple of lines where
he genuinely loses his way
halfway through a line and then finds his way back and they just let that run we've got one go at all
of these yeah no one's going all right do you just want to do that again clean just get that clean
well because i there's a hit him for 20 minutes they're they use that brilliant uh sort of
cinematic device when they transition from you know watching the process of the movie being made
on a tv show to actually filming the movie they change from color to black and white because it's
the sort of gritty mafia movie but they all the mistakes are in that as well which suggests that
they have edited them and put them through a grading process absolutely ready for the movie
and just yeah just leave that in the bit where he licks licks the whiskey yeah and so the first take
they do and he licks the whiskey like it and it sort of breaks the whole momentum of the scene
and they stop
and everyone's like,
what the fuck was that?
And he goes,
well, I had a sip.
And they go,
no, you were drinking it like a cat.
That's what a cat does.
And he's like,
oh, okay, we'll do it again.
And they do it again.
And the next time he does this thing
where he sort of dribbles it
out of his mouth
back into the cup
after actually taking a swig.
And Michael Madsen's reaction,
I've never seen anything on screen
straddle the line
between performance and reality. Like he was literally caught in purgatory where he was he was like angry and
laughing as himself and as the character on the show and it's so obvious that they couldn't shoot
it again because they just had him for one line but so he'd received no direction as to how
the character of michael madison should be. So he was like angry, but then laughing and then angry and laughing all at the same time.
And then he was angry and went to his trailer.
It doesn't sound like a weird thing when you say it out loud, but folks, you've got to watch this one clip.
It's fucking wild.
Just this reaction that he has.
Also, just while we're talking about celebrities in the show, a small subplot that went absolutely nowhere to,
not my surprise, but minor frustration,
is that Jamie, the much put upon assistant,
is given this really promising romantic lead
in the form of a yoga instructor and fellow vegetarian on set,
played by Hayley Duff, most famous, sadly, for her,
but not for us, for being Hilary Duff's sister.
And then they sort of set it up like oh my god yeah you know and then knowing our relationship to him through the show
it's like well it's all gonna go horribly long wrong in a very you know physically painful and
funny way purportedly funny way for us it's one of those balls that he forgot yeah that was one
of the balls for sure because you guys had set his character up for me
like something always goes wrong with this guy
he's gonna get electrocuted
he's gonna get burnt
and then he squatted for a yoga move
and she left
and you guys were like
here we go
something bad's gonna happen
so I was like
what's gonna happen
he's gonna sit on a spike
his pants are gonna rip off
and a crow's gonna come down
and peck his balls
I thought he was gonna shit himself
I would have put money on it
I would have beat you 20 pounds yeah i thought the eggplant that she gave him
for lunch the vegetarian option is the setup folks but what happens is rob schneider comes
along and says oh you look a bit silly sometimes the thing that goes wrong in a storyline is that
rob schneider forgets to finish writing them it's a kind of a punch line isn't it it's like he's
written that whole scene and then on the set he's gone how about i just come on instead yeah how about we forget that and i come on
me i'll riff something i'll riff something it'll be fine that is what it's like isn't it he's behind
camera he calls action on a scene it starts happening and he's like oh i think i can get
in there i got something literally walked around from behind frame and just goes and tanks the whole
thing and goes yeah cut next that's definitely what happened with the apple juice licking scene
where he's licking the whiskey apple juice and then they're like right that's in the script and
he's like i've got another one and then he spits it out and then the spitting thing as well there's
actually there's there's a bit of movie magic that's gone into it because he's spitting for a um impossibly long amount of time so they've put a tube out of you know on the other
side of his face away from the camera to make it go truly yeah they keep the shot going for so
like he takes a little sip it doesn't go on long enough to justify a tube absolutely not it's just
long enough so that you know they've done something but not long enough to be funny or have any particular reason.
But it's just like,
it's this constant reminder
that people exist creating the show
that's really depressing to me.
You miss 100% of the guesses you don't take.
What really depresses me
is that's what Rob Schneider,
that's how he treats comedy.
It's a huge mystery.
I had a good run
In the late 90s
Where I took a lot of guesses
And people were into it
Well yeah like
But then I lost it
Fuck
It's the most unlikely
Law of averages
But it does feel like
There was a time there
When he was
You know like
It doesn't feel like
He's in control
Of any of the decisions
He's making
If you explain
What the animal is
That's not funny
But he did it
And it worked
And it made a lot of money yeah
and he was he was acting opposite the the female lead in the movie the animal was uh probably the
second most popular female contestant from the first season of survivor who had no history of
acting whatsoever wow we made things different back then didn't we i feel really bad for the
people who are bit pots in this show
because they would have been really excited that they're on a show.
You Hayley Duffs?
Not even Hayley Duffs.
I'm talking the guy who plays the runner.
Oh, yeah.
So he's all eager and he's pretty good.
There's nothing wrong with what he's doing.
But he's like, I'm on a show, I'm on a show, and then it's real Rob.
I think they'd be down with it because,
and I can't remember the specifics,
but maybe I should look them up during the next episode.
But we get sent by the people who listen to this podcast
and behind the scenes stuff.
And apparently people are getting fucked over left, right and centre
who are making this.
It's very low budget in spite of the fact that it is a Netflix commissioned show.
Not commissioned by.
Yeah.
Guy and I believe that Rob Schneider
has given them a show and some money
to get it onto Netflix.
And the transaction's slightly different to the norm.
But they must be,
if they are paying for it,
it will not be much money.
Absolutely.
He's got no sense of business.
No.
He's making a show fully
and then bringing it to Netflix.
This thing arrived at Netflix on a flash drive
wrapped up in a $20 bill
the bargaining system
that's going on there where he goes
well here's a fully produced series
and they go alright we'll pay $10 for it
and he goes
you mean you're giving me the $10
no I want more than that
and they're like well you've made it already
there's nothing you can do in this situation.
I can't believe I did this two seasons in a row.
It's like Garth Marenghi.
So Garth Marenghi's Dark Place,
the joke is that they just went ahead and made the show.
So there's a line where Richard Ayoade says,
we didn't know you had to wait.
We just went ahead and made it
and then wanted to see who wanted it.
But this is to your point that the people who you know you feel slighted on their behalf the people who featured
in it all right these are not you know i wouldn't say they're real actors they're people who are
pursuing a career in acting who maybe would not otherwise get on anything and i think they'd be
very happy to have that credit on imdb i don't't know. It'd be like if I was on it.
I'd be fucking stoked.
Well, that's got to be the end of this podcast.
That would be an enjoyable sort of cultural oddity.
I don't know that you would be stoked.
I'd be stoked.
I remember, because we've spoken about the supporting players
and passing on this before, and it's interesting to me.
This is ostensibly a comedy show,
and usually on any comedy show, more specifically in the first season you'd populate
it with people who you know are funny from like the comedy industry or scene who will later go
on to become successful performers he is batting at zero percent in terms of picking performers who
will come on and steal a scene or like you know i know that
he's not they're not given a lot to play with it's another guess isn't it he's guessing in the
casting as well i mean yeah that one guy's only line is yeah we've got vegetarian options hot
dog or burger buns we relish and that's it and he's out his but see those performances are more
uh in keeping with the overall tone like because that guy did not feel like a performer.
He felt like someone who obviously go stand behind that food and say this
stuff.
He was a sayer.
Yeah.
And that is more in keeping with the show than say the guy who was the
runner and was doing all these jobs.
So he tells Rob,
he doesn't have a trailer who is actually giving in some sort of acting or
comedic performance.
And you see it and you're like, this is, I think this is where that feeling of unease and sorrow comes from
because it's like you're trying
and it's not fair
Rob's not trying
no one else is
it's awful
although there is a believability to Rob's performance
because he
well it's real Rob
it is real Rob
the clue was on the tin the whole time
but you can tell that he is, in real life,
a narcissistic piece of shit
because he wears his...
He's not an intelligent man.
This is what I can't escape.
The thing about...
I interviewed him once on the radio.
Did you?
I talked to him for about half an hour.
I had to cut it into like six minutes
to put on a rock music station a few years ago.
He's real into Buddhism
and sort of Eastern religions,
but he's not a deep thinker at all.
In theory, he is.
It's a nice thing to say.
It's not something he's comfortable being asked about.
No, and we watched a clip last night.
He's an anti-vaxxer as well,
but he actually had a pretty fucking articulate
sort of semi-libertarian slant on why.
He talked Tim around.
Hey, play the tape back.
You were convinced, mate.
Oh, look,
I was just looking
for something to say.
Why is none of that stuff
making it into Real Rob?
That would be kind of good,
but it seeps in
because the thing about
the organic apple juice,
that's all these little things
that seep in from his real life.
But he doesn't have
the attention span
to stick to any of these
through lines
because he does at the start of the episode.
That was actually,
for those of you playing along at home,
we had a false start
where we started watching the last episode
when we were trying to figure out
where we got up to.
And his wife's saying,
I'm going to go to Mexico or the Bahamas.
And he goes, yeah, well, that's fine
if you want to get, you know,
like the idea that he's got
all these conspiratorial ideas
on things that'll make you sick. So it really it's really interesting because he i would assume
he's writing that as as a character point to be an arsehole so like the bag of organic food i'm
like he's gone what what would a dickhead version of me do but he's actually just putting in his
genuine it's real rob so that is wow yeah this shows so much better than i thought yeah so so
rob schneider um i think we could probably say quite definitively now is exactly the kind of
dude who's on facebook and that he has been targeted by all of those fake news websites
and he's reading a headline or maybe the first paragraph of everything and he's formed a web
of lies in his head that explains the world he's got the time to take it all on board yeah and turn it into one quarter formed
opinion and you do he does there are episodes where he you know like you see him on the computer
half researching some fucking whacked out thing so he's sort of got an awareness of it but again
he just i think lacks the intelligence to sort of see it the whole way through this does open up the idea that for this show to work or be remotely interesting all it needs is to become a
genuine documentary yeah give someone else the camera yeah 100 give jamie the camera give jamie
the camera and film the writer's room it's because i'll watch that happily it's the the thing that
is blocking the show from operating it It's like he's the self...
He's the filter.
He still doesn't know that he looks like an arsehole on the show,
but he's still afraid that he will,
or he's afraid he'll look stupid.
He's not far off as well, eh?
It only needs to be half a step beyond what it is.
It's amazing that he lets half of that come out as well.
He says cunt in this episode.
That was big.
The most convincing acting
performance he turns in is all the lines of dismissive insults he's written for himself
yeah and like it's sort of the insolence with which he treats those around him those are like
when he goes are you fucking idiot it's like yeah you believe that yeah yeah that just came out
exactly so what like uh comparing this to the pilot episode ed do you think there's been any
progress has he learned any lessons along the way?
In terms of storytelling?
In terms of storytelling.
Putting a show together.
But I can't even remember what the story was
of the pilot.
What was your initial take on the pilot?
Well, it's truly dreadful stuff.
We couldn't believe what he was trying to...
So, they're not talking heads in this?
No, but they were.
So, there used to be early doors
there was talking heads
there was
another Rob guess
there was the sound stage
stand up
so it was
interspersed with like
Kardashian style talking heads
also him doing stand up
like a Seinfeld or Louis type thing
it was having a go at every show right
at one basically
yeah
and then he sort of
and the big thing because you mentioned that,
I just thought that's probably him doing Everybody Loves Ray.
Yeah.
Mind.
Mind.
Was that the name of the show?
Everybody Loves Raymond.
Oh, yeah, sure.
I thought it was right.
Yeah, yeah.
I think you've been confused.
The amount of comedic talent we've packed into this hotel room.
So, you know, off mic we have Alice Sneddon and Ray Badgeran
Ray Badgeran is
vertical
or he's sort of
no horizontal
but
you're at a right angle
he's stretching his legs
out against the wall
if we spent the amount of time
we did consuming Rob Schneider
just trying to come up
with one idea
between the five of us
that we wanted to create
we can make something
so much better
the joke truly is on us
isn't it
as it always is.
And that's why we can say these horrible things
about Rob Schneider and his beautiful family.
Yeah, I just remember thinking how much
he was trying to do Modern Family
with the first episode.
I mean, there are some comparisons anyway.
I don't think I knew that was his real wife until today.
So it seemed so much like Modern Family
because it's like an older guy with like a uh a hot wife yeah from
latin from latin america who's way out of his league and they live in a nice house and they
do those outside of house shots as well to establish a new scene which nothing will happen
and the way scenes move on in this is absolutely incredible like and like you said if there's no
if there was no music in it it would be the maddest show of all time. Yeah, to punctuate the end of the scene,
they will just keep coming back to the same
electro swing.
They've paid for the rights to use one track.
One clip, yeah.
And it's the same one from the first season too.
They haven't changed it.
If it ain't broke.
Is it not a test?
I mean, he has learned
in that he has removed the talking heads
he has removed the stand up
on a soundstage
he's not replaced him
with anything
no yeah
and it's not that
he's concentrated the time
he was spending writing
or performing those scenes
on getting the other stuff right
it's just that they're
no longer there
it's a good tip
if you're making art
to put every idea
you've ever had
into one thing
and then just strip them away
one by one
and then keep going
until you lose interest
until it's just a husk.
So I would recommend watching this particular episode.
For the cameos.
Stan's in this one.
You can't go past there.
Is there anything that you enjoyed
that you'd like to recount before we...
I think I'm aware that we're on a bit of a...
This much comedic talent packed into a room.
We're essentially holding some of these people hostage.
The highlight was Madsen for me, I think.
The Madsen cameo is absolutely astonishing.
For the surprise, the shock factor,
or for the actual cameo itself?
For the shock factor,
and then I think he really delivered on the cameo.
The sort of stasis he was caught in in that reaction
is genuinely worth a watch.
He almost represents the real world in the way
he performs. It's like he didn't
know whether it was a documentary or a sitcom.
Yeah. So they didn't tell him
to get the most real performance out of
Impossible. Yeah. It just
strikes me that they hit him for 15
to 20 minutes. Oh yeah, for sure.
And they used every frame that you see
as everything they could get.
He walked straight.
They slapped a mic on him as soon as he was through the door.
That's why he's so confused.
Those are his own clothes.
Yeah.
There was no costume on that day.
No doubt.
And that was a genuine walk off at the end of his scene.
Yeah.
They never saw him again.
What a show, though.
You know, they got it finished.
It's all there.
It's in focus.
I can't get away from the fact that it's all in focus on this show. You know, it's in focus. There's no there it's in focus I can't get away from the fact it's all in focus
on this show
you know
it's in focus
there's no denying it
it's all lit
I might have to watch
the next episode
to see if the yoga
instructor comes back
she won't
let me tell you
I don't know
I believe in him man
I think he's gonna
pull it out of the bag
those are the plot devices
those are the hooks
that keep fans watching for more it's like whether or not a character will reappear um i'm not averse
to putting money on this let me know because i i might watch another episode all right let
them know right now 20 quid that she does not reappear all right done you're on that's a great
thing um if people want to keep in touch with you, how can they do that?
What's your phone number?
If you want to
get in contact
with me directly.
Plus 44.
We don't say
that weirdly.
You can hit me
up.
Yeah, there's
something you
can say.
You are
coffee,
D'Amel.
I bet lots of
our listeners are
going to hit you
up, old man.
You can contact me on Twitter at AdGambleComedy.
And you've got a...
I forgot to say at the start of the episode,
you've also got a new stand-up special
streaming on Amazon Prime.
Yes, it's called Real Ad.
It's not.
It's called Blood Sugar
and it's available on Amazon Prime.
Well, thank you so much.
It's great to be back in the saddle, as great as it can be.
And I'd like to sign off this episode by saying,
Roger Daltrey took a shit in my guest house.