The Worst Idea Of All Time - AJLT S02E08

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

A bizarre, tension-free episode for Carrie and Aiden as they movie into Che's apartment after a five day fuck festival at some poor hotel. Speaking of Che, Tim's happy to see them and even dreams of w...atching a sitcom where Che balances their stand-up aspirations with a burgeoning veterinary career. This leads to a reflection on when—while pursuing a career in the arts—is the right time to turn in and admit defeat. Anthony is making homophobic firings while fielding bread calls on a French stick, and the introduction of a sartorial delight named Elliot delights both boys.Intro theme: Brendan LordanOutro theme: SterlingSupport us via our Substack for access to premium content Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I This is the vibe because Aiden's back and he's a country boy. Yeah, he is. He's really back. He's not just back in concept. Aiden's back, so grab your carry, smack her on the bum, and then you marry her at a wedding. You make her your wife, and then you spend the rest of your life
Starting point is 00:00:51 with a woman who is so self-centered you won't get your own self- Agenda. Agenda. You did really well. And it's tough, isn't it, to stick the landing? Sometimes you've just got to run and hope that the universe will provide.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Let me adjust these microphones a little bit. It's nice. Whoa. You're all right. Keep talking. People can hear me even though I can't hear myself? Yeah, you're good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:16 That's not true in real life, though. If I can't hear myself, people can't hear me, eh? People can't hear my thoughts. It's so important that people hear your thoughts, Guy But not like Not like Not like these In What Women Want
Starting point is 00:01:29 With Mel Gibson and Helen Hunt Yeah You know what happens in that movie? Yeah He can hear all women's thoughts Yeah That is scary It is scary
Starting point is 00:01:38 To hear like just any big group of people's thoughts all the time Do you know who's got that information? The worst guy. Yeah, Mel Gibson. Not great, but a great idea for a flick. Listen. Before he got around to sort of sharing his opinions and advertising who he is by day, he was a very charismatic actor
Starting point is 00:02:05 Sure Lethal Weapon Yeah It's a fun movie Yep Sure I've got a lethal weapon Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:12 Your wit Your razor sharp wit Yeah If that's what you call my penis And it is And it is razor sharp It's a very scary thing Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:22 It's got a very pointed end. Terrifying. Almost as scary as the concept of being inundated with the thoughts, the intrusive thoughts of what every woman is thinking into your head. Aidan doesn't have that. What he has are phenomenal instincts for what Carrie might. I mean, that's just, I guess, would you call it new love? True love?
Starting point is 00:02:41 How would you describe? Now that Chris Parker's not here, I'm going to get get into it okay because carrie sucks shit oh wow and you wouldn't say that you wouldn't say this in front of chris well i i would say anything in front of chris i don't hold back in front of chris but i think this episode really showcased just what a miserable piece of shit character carrie is the short version aiden's back on the scene yep hearing he and carrie are very much in love yeah the whole time no tension none and sema has sort of been pushed to the outside they were going to get a house in the hamptons these two kind of single gals were going to spend the summer together at a beautiful holiday home carrie's forgotten all about it forgotten all
Starting point is 00:03:23 about sema sema very maturely has made the decision to go you know what carrie's forgotten all about it forgotten all about sema sema very maturely has made the decision to go you know what carrie's on one she's falling in love for me and she says this in the episode she says nowadays everybody when they talk like they've got someone to say but nothing comes out when they move the lips it's just a bunch of motherfuckers exactly they forgot about Seema forgot about Seema man and so Seema in a moment of true vulnerability outside of a salon where they're both
Starting point is 00:03:51 coincidentally getting their hair done I think at the same time yeah some shit that happens it happens sometimes we're not saying
Starting point is 00:03:57 that doesn't happen Carrie forces Seema tries to make an exit Carrie forces her into a conversation so Seema says you know what if we're going to have this conversation I Carrie forces her into a conversation. So Seema says, you know what? If we're going to have this conversation,
Starting point is 00:04:06 I'm going to have a cigarette while we do it. Can I say, I think Carrie was within her rights to force, in that instance, to force that conversation. That one's fine because Carrie didn't have all the info there. And Seema has been avoiding her. With no context. Seema's been ghosting her. If Carrie had an iota of self-awareness,
Starting point is 00:04:23 she might have put the fucking puzzle pieces together, but she't so that's part of the context here so seymour drags her outside lights up a dart and says listen very happy for you you've you've refounded and this is great stuff um here's where i'm at and this may sound petty but you have had these two great loves of your life i I have had none. And what I need right now is a bit of space from all of this happening with you. And Carrie says, nah.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, she does. Which is so shitty. She says no. And it just backs up my belief that this fucking character, which the show is centered around, she must get everything she wants at all times, every time with no downside.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Well, before even this happens, we opened with Carrie and Aidan at the end of a five-day fuck festival in a hotel room. Truly. Dehydrated. Withered. They've been sucking, they've been fucking, they have not been drinking sufficient water.
Starting point is 00:05:24 The dialogue pointedly advertises They've been in there for five days Just going at it Next scene carries out to lunch With Charlotte Miranda A couple of animals Samantha
Starting point is 00:05:35 Do you notice how they did that? Hey I didn't Until you just said it then That's right on brother They're all talking And they're just You know they're all catching up as friends do. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Especially these girls. At one point in this conversation, I think it's after Carrie has, Miranda observes Carrie's still carrying trauma from her previous relationship with Aidan. Yep. And you say, these women don't let each other grow. They are actively stunting each other's development. That's what you said. Yeah. I believe it was it is it are they often one of the women makes a reach to do something a bit
Starting point is 00:06:12 outside of their normal yeah you know daily routine or their normal life or because in this example carrie has gone hey living out in the country with aiden maybe that's a nice picture and they will go this sucks this ain't you fuck that you gotta stay here with us keep buying shoes live the life you've always lived in this instance you're kind of on the side of carrie although she has just just just by de facto because she represents someone Who's trying to make a move to change Can I also say So long as we're talking about Carrie And her desire to check out the countryside
Starting point is 00:06:51 And Aidan's place and his three teenage boys Can we name them? Wyatt Who's the only one who gets name checked in this episode But he does name them He shows their photos in Abu Dhabi Yeah I know that's what I'm saying We should remember from the movie.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Wyatt. It's like Domingo. Dominic. Dominic DiCoco. No, it's not coming. They're like country names. Yeah, they are. Wyatt, Frederick and Homer Homer
Starting point is 00:07:27 and there's only one I want to say wit no but I love where your head's at anyway sorry I reckon it'll come to us maybe well so she's saying I'm gonna go out there and you know Aiden's gonna spend when the kids are with their mom he's going to be in New York and when they're with him maybe I'll go out and spend some time there sometimes and before even she starts getting deep into explaining this idea to the girls Aidan said hey the place is beautiful this 1860 or 1816 red brick farmhouse and Carrie gets excited and she starts googling norfolk 1860 red brick farmhouse and these sort of beautiful images come up and it's it's done in such a way because they're so in the pocket of their relationship you think this is it this you know they're setting this up so clearly it's going to be a fucking catastrophe yeah carrie yeah carrie's vapid nature is going to get in the way of genuine what
Starting point is 00:08:27 appears to be true love like she's going to fucking block herself by getting this big idea what the house is like so she does that and then she sees like clicks on this beautiful home she's getting really excited when she's at lunch she's sort of talking about it with everyone she wants to show them a photo she shows sema sema gets kind of weird about it yeah and we're like sema's a real estate agent she knows something here yeah and the conversation find the whole conversation rolls on and sema says by the way you accidentally got norfolk england not norfolk and it's sort of like we we walked all that way for that reveal that felt a bit disappointing and then so the whole episode while everything's going great guns between carrie and aiden you're like this is gonna you know they can't have done this just for that bit at
Starting point is 00:09:08 the start. And then you get to the very end of the episode and there's other storylines contained there and of course, but in voiceover cases and just like that, I went and stayed in Norfolk and it was better than any, you know, any picture, any, it was better than I could imagine. And I was like, we didn't even see it first off so that's cheap i was i was sort of i was sort of confused yeah i thought well you're also jumping ahead a little bit because so sema said she wanted space carrie wouldn't give it to her i can't actually remember how that conversation ended uh she's sort of carrie begrudgingly carrie's like you
Starting point is 00:09:44 can't when friends have space Do you know what Winds up being More space And Seema kind of Holds her ground a little bit She's like I need space
Starting point is 00:09:51 Fucking good And then off they go And then they sort of Stop comms What spurred this a little bit Was the fact that Carrie invited All the gals
Starting point is 00:09:59 Seema included To have dinner with Aiden and she Her? She Us We want to take you We want to take you all But in that sentence As I've constructed it Would you say Aiden and she. Her? She. Us. We want to take you all for dinner.
Starting point is 00:10:05 But in that sentence, as I've constructed it, would you say Aiden and her? Aiden and she. Aiden and her. I want you all to come for dinner with Aiden. No, because don't do it in the first person. We want you all to come to dinner with us. Carrie invited the gals to dinner with Aiden and...
Starting point is 00:10:23 Her. Her. Yeah. Okay. That's what I'd say okay but I might be wrong do you know I never figured out that
Starting point is 00:10:28 me or that we it's a few it's a grammatic thing if you remove the other person yeah it's whatever makes sense you retain that
Starting point is 00:10:37 and you put yourself last Tim and I Tim and I Tim and I would like to so that's I would like to invite you to dinner but that's in the first person we were there with Tim and me would like to invite you to dinner. But that's in the first person.
Starting point is 00:10:47 We were there with... Tim and me would like to invite you to dinner. It doesn't work because you wouldn't say, me would like to invite you to dinner. So when do I say Tim and me? Whenever me works without the other subject in there. Who's coming to dinner? Me. Tim and me?
Starting point is 00:11:04 That's when you would use it. Who's coming to dinner me i tried that i made a try to make a show called guess who's coming to dinner me this is a great pie was there more than just the pilot did you make a couple just walking around the neighborhood with a bottle of wine it was really great trying to get us to people's houses featuring nick set the talented Mr. Sampson, Nick Sampson. And Dee Brookbanks, Donna Brookbanks. Donna Brookbanks, an absolute legend. Yeah, founder of Snort, New Zealand improv group. And of Friendship. Yeah, she founded Friendship.
Starting point is 00:11:35 She founded the idea of Friendship and then, of course, inevitably found Friends because, you know. Once you invent the wheel, do you know what you get to enjoy? The wheels. Yeah, you don't just invent the wheel and be like, I can get it better. And then, you know, you're fucking out there sanding down triangles. Like, it's not that in the same. Do you know what I should do?
Starting point is 00:11:57 I should go back. I should go back to the circle. The Aiden of geometry. Yeah. Aiden is a delight in this episode. He's fun to be around. He's a very charismatic actor. There's a, well, you wouldn't call this a subplot,
Starting point is 00:12:12 but a thread they keep returning to, which is that Carrie actually picked the wrong dude when she checked up with Big. After that breakfast with her and the gals, she's walking down the street with miranda and they're sort of they're sharing and they're both to an extent listening they are listening they are they do a good job of a conversation there's a phone call between charlotte and anthony which is just 10 out of 10 american convo it's played it's played for laughs and they do execute because
Starting point is 00:12:40 they're both just talking about their lives and the other ones just responds by talking about their life and then at the end they go... No acknowledgement that even the other person said anything. It's just like they've stopped talking. Thanks for listening. But while Carrie and Miranda are walking, talking and listening, Carrie says, I can't even say it. And then there's a big pause.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And she says, I'm wondering, did I make a big mistake? Was big a big mistake? And Miranda doesn't know what to say. And then I said something, and I said this. I turned to Guy, and I said, Guy, this whole time, we've been thinking that big was short for big dick. But actually, it was short for big mistake. You know they modelled him on Trump, the fact that we forget.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I remember, I've only seen one episode of the non-canon show, and I think, or not like, no, I've probably seen more bits and pieces, but I remember the introduction, I saw the introduction of Mr. Big, and he was, they said, they say, they label it, they say he's like a young Donald Trump. And look at them both now. One's about to regain the White House and the other died on a peloton, undignified.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Well, in a sense, they were closer than they realized when they labeled him as like a young Donald Trump. In what way? Well, he's a sex criminal. Oh, yeah, true. In what way? Well he's a sex criminal Oh yeah true You've also introduced the actor playing the character I have So there's a lot happening here
Starting point is 00:14:13 Real life characters and the real life characters actors Was Donald Trump president in just like that universe? No Yeah I don't think so either Do you think he's still like a kind of respected businessman he's sort of um like you know i think the most convenient option is is sort of the one they've picked which is that he's neither on the up and up nor fully disgraced so you don't have to acknowledge him he's just sort of a fading figure how did how did these women vote someone messaged me oh this is this is now sorry i'm crossing the streams here
Starting point is 00:14:50 which the ghostbusters told us we must never do for our atoms will simultaneously explode at the speed of light but someone messaged me and said canonically um dominic tooretto Who we asked the same question What way does Dom vote Said canonically He can't vote Because he's a Convict Ah So he doesn't
Starting point is 00:15:14 A felon Well these These broads can vote Yes they can I feel like we might have done this before I feel like we have previously as well So we don't need to get into it All Republican.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Just, there's the headline. Well, because... Miranda with a lot of guilt, but she's still doing it. She goes out and, you know, she had the pussy hat on. She did the march, but... Wow. She's having it both ways. Or is that having it neither way?
Starting point is 00:15:44 It's hard to say. So we've got Carrie and Aidan who are so happily ensconced in their love Wow. She's having it both ways. Or is that having it neither way? It's hard to say. So we've got Carrie and Aidan who are so happily ensconced in their love that all you're doing when you're watching them is girding your loins and preparing for some sort of fucking cataclysmic disaster or some self-created crisis, which is Carrie not willing to budge one percentage of her personality to accommodate an entire other person into her life. You're just waiting for the fall and i i mean you know i think i'll be fascinated to see how
Starting point is 00:16:13 the story plays out in the show i did think this was a weaker episode than previous ones it's hard to say why i think carrie's storyline is is just pure happiness the subplots we have are Miranda's back in the workplace. She's interning at a... What's... She's at Human Rights Watch. She's at Human Rights Watch and she's obviously coming in with 30 years of corporate law experience. She's a very senior intern
Starting point is 00:16:36 and we have to watch Miranda traipsing around the workplace with Gen Z who are very polite to her right out the gate. They certainly are. And I did say Gen Z, but is that right? They are Gen Z, yay. They're younger the gate. They certainly are. And I did say Gen Z, but is that right? They are Gen Z, yeah. They're younger than us.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So, yeah. Okay. Sweet. And we're... What's the next one? Because Gen Z are in their 20s now. Yeah. I don't know what it's called.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Who comes next? The TikTok generation. Because Z's the last one in the alphabet. ZZ. And then you go last one in the alphabet. ZZ. And then you go ZZ Top after that. Yeah. Didn't like that. I liked it.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Anyhow. The one guy in that band who doesn't have a beard. His last name is Beard. That's good trivia. It's always cracked me up. It's not bad trivia. So we've got miranda in the workplace which at first i was sort of sighing about but it was it was kind of interesting she
Starting point is 00:17:31 um she it was humanizing actually and it was nice to see miranda reclaiming some power outside of her relationship with shay we've got charlotte going back to the workplace charlotte her storyline is she's got a ponch. Yeah, Charlotte goes shopping with Seema because she's rejoined the art world and she wants a gallery outfit. And the subplot is that her body's different from when she was 30. Like 24 or something.
Starting point is 00:17:58 She's got a photo of her from the TV series, which was really, they didn't play it very heavy, but I was like hey she's looking at two photos the first photo is of the four of them the quad squad uh the first sighting of miranda inside you mean samantha sorry what did i say miranda oh yeah sorry samantha inside of and just like that universe but the second photos of a young charlotte and she puts it on a hanger and she's like I will look like her again And you think
Starting point is 00:18:26 You probably won't And then we've got Shay Return of Diaz Oh my god Still at Or in the midst of working At the vet
Starting point is 00:18:38 And Actually I will say As soon as we were at the vet with Shay You said I could happily spend an hour here. Yeah. Situation comedy with Shay, a stand-up comedian whose pilot went nowhere and is sort of dusting themselves off.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And is that a vet? That's cool. There's lots of opportunity for fun characters to come in and wacky situations. She's got a sassy boss named Judy. They. Sorry, they. Iy situations. She's got a sassy boss named Judy. They, they, they. Sorry, they. I beg your pardon.
Starting point is 00:19:07 They have a sassy boss called Judy. Like, there's a lot of fun to be had. Yeah. I mean, do you think in the world of the show... When we were in there, I was like, let's stay here. Just park those cameras up, everybody. Put them on sticks. Carrie's visiting Shay because Carrie wants to propose that her and aiden are spending a bomb renting hotel rooms for the
Starting point is 00:19:29 fuck festival and shay's having a challenging time with their sorry kind of a nuts thing to like carrie knows that shay doesn't have a lot of money yeah and they're not quite on the bones of their ass like they've still got an apartment at their airbnb so i don't't know. That, to me, speaks to you've got some assets and shit. But still, Carrie's like, Oh, God, we're spending so much on hotels. It's fucking around. I think Shay is leasing the apartment. Rufus isn't happy.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I think Shay's leasing the apartment, signed a 12-month lease. The pilot didn't come through. They moved back in with their grandma? I'm not sure. There's a brief mention of it. It's not an asset's a mention there's a brief mention it's not an asset it's shay is airbnb-ing it oh sorry to finish the lease oh you're right you're right you're right and carrie's running around being like i'm spending too much money on hotels i'm gonna rent your apartment with aiden and then
Starting point is 00:20:19 uh shay says well that's okay but i don't like her. Or Shay actually also says, I feel weird charging you rent. And in my head, I thought, don't feel weird charging Carrie. Carrie could change anyone's life in this show. She really could. I mean, all this to say, while that's happening, there's a guy sitting in the waiting room at the vet with a turtle, and it's sort of like played for intrigue and laughs. And then you enjoyed this. You're in the waiting room at the vet with a turtle and it sort of like played for intrigue and laughs and then...
Starting point is 00:20:46 You enjoyed this. You're in the way for the... Kerry's like, I don't want to hold this person up if they're waiting to get their turtle seen. And Shay says, no, no, no, they're here for... They're dogs at the vet. Because what's with the turtle? And then Shay says, well, the turtle's worried about the dog.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And that's like a glimpse of the sitcom you're describing. Exactly. And I wonder if in the world of the show, they have the foresight to have Shay create another pilot. I mean, wouldn't it be funny? Second bite of the apple. Wouldn't it be funny, but wouldn't it be fascinating if Shay's storyline went from comedian on the up
Starting point is 00:21:17 to comedian holding on to comedy when they should let go? And so every aspect of Shay's life is picked up and looked at either for a bit or to generate a sitcom storyline. It's hard to know in real life, and I don't know how you would depict in a story when you're supposed to abandon your artistic pursuit. It's really hard to say.
Starting point is 00:21:40 You know what I mean? Because arguably there's so many of the greats who have stories where they struggled and toiled to say you know what i mean because like arguably there's so many of the greats who have stories where they they struggled and toiled and were unrecognized for so long and then just suddenly everything changed and if they had have listened to all the signs the universe was giving them um they probably should have abandoned the ship don't, but you've been in an open mic. You've seen... Do you know what happened to me on Saturday? I was in an event. I was hosting an event, and then that was all good. And then we went for a drink on Pitt Street at a cool little bar.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And then I went to look for the bathroom. And actually, Chris Park did a very funny Instagram story of looking for the bathroom in a nice cafe, traipsing through caves and spelunking and whatnot. So it was kind of one of those situations. Nice bar. And then I opened a door to look for the toilet. And then there was a long corridor and it had all these apartment doors.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Oh, my God. And then I kept walking to find the bathroom. And right at the end, I opened a door, which I thought was the bathroom. And I wound up in Red Bar while a stand-up gig was in action. Oh, my God. And I poked my head in. And then I shut the door again. And I got a message from, who was it?
Starting point is 00:22:56 Henry Chung, I think, saying, hey, did you just poke your head in a Red Bar? And I was like, I was looking for the toilet in a totally different bar. Wow. It was a cool little Alice in a totally different bar. Wow. It was a cool little Alice in Wonderland. Yeah. A whole moment. Yeah. Real Narnia.
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Starting point is 00:23:34 That's a top five for me Yeah We've tried everything man And we're Oh no Fuck I fucked it up We've tried nothing man And we're all out of ideas
Starting point is 00:23:43 I like it when dad's blowing up at the whole of springfield and then he goes to lenny and you i don't know what you did but you're a real jerk uh i would have been funny to do a set you know just open the door go to the i was exhausted i just bloody hosted a fun uh what was that i guess it was fun no it wasn't a fundraiser and then you but you know you go to the bathroom and it was like whoa you were gone a while yeah i just did a set that would be yeah i don't have the big shit no big set they don't have the context that you went into another bar that's true like wow tim's been gone a while should we check on him meanwhile you're up there bombing with your new material about palm trees or whatever the hell.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Could you imagine though, like having to do a set with zero warning? Yeah. I wouldn't like that at all. I really need to like click into gear. It's good for you. Is it? Yeah. Just go.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Right now. Go. Go. So if these cats are so domestic Why the hell am I the one doing all the dish shit It's not a set but it's a really good joke I'm going to give it to you That rocked
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah it's a new joke It's pretty funny Thanks Yeah And now it's out in the wild But The piece de resistance Of this The eighth episode of season two of In Just Like That Yeah, and now it's out in the wild. But the piece de resistance of this,
Starting point is 00:25:05 the eighth episode of season two of In Just Like That, Anthony's Hot Fellas storyline. Oh, yeah. Anthony is all on his lonesome. He is fired, everyone, because, surprise, the outrageously buff dudes you hired to deliver bread were all doing human growth hormones. And they really crossed the line
Starting point is 00:25:24 when they started injecting themselves in the middle of a shift in the store in the middle of the day so they're all fired and now anthony is single-handedly trying to keep this business afloat whilst balancing a very tricky and delicate situation of having hired giuseppe a down down-on-his-luck poet who Charlotte stumbled across in a bookstore in the last episode doing poems for a dollar each. He's hot. He's got a massive hog. And he's Italian and cute as a button and very sweet.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And he's straight. So we can hire him. So Anthony does, and he delivers bread, and everyone's obsessed with him. And he gets on the Alan show, and everyone wants bread from Giuseppe because he's so good looking. It's the Drew show but.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Fuck. Yeah. True. Do you think is Allen still going in the end just like that universe? It's. Was Allen in the last
Starting point is 00:26:19 season? Allen's not been in this show. Do you think they knew like the fall was coming? Nah. Allen would be nice Jason? Ellen's not been in this show. Do you think they knew? Like the fall was coming? Nah, Ellen would be nice to... Ellen would be nice to SJP
Starting point is 00:26:34 and even to Cynthia Nixon. She'd be a little bitch to Charlotte Davis because she thinks that she's beneath her i don't know how it ends but i reckon that's that i reckon on the show she'd be so polite and charming to sjp she'd be lovely to kim cattrall i just feel like she'd and she'd she'd be deferential because of cynthia nixon's political clout and then i feel like she'd unveil You know, the fourth quadrant of her personality to Sha Kristen Davis, her name's Charlotte, my mistake I mean, but you know
Starting point is 00:27:12 I've just, I've just Alan'd Kristen Davis Giuseppe? How would you feel if any of them listened to this? Who? Alan or Drew? If Drew listens, I'm here for it The four, no Alan, go to hell, listens, I'm here for it. Alan, go to hell. You're not welcome here. You sound like a bad sort.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Any of the people from the show. It would be crazy to me to think that they would spend a second doing it. It's crazy we had Greg Davies on because Taskmaster is hypothetically big enough that any of those four or their families could be Taskmaster fans. Yeah, that's true. Anything's possible. I guess anything is possible. At the end of the day, anything's possible. The world is smaller than you think. And these people who are celebrities who we think
Starting point is 00:27:53 are immune to the slings and arrows of day-to-day life. There's the thing about them. They're just like you and me. You and I? And we're back again. So Giuseppe turns out to not be straight. He is in fact gay. He Patrick Swayze ghosts Anthony in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Anthony's like having a hard time. He's on the phone to a customer called Lorraine saying Giuseppe's not coming out there. And I've never said this before, but you're eating too much bread. Have a protein and slams his bread phone down. That rocks. He's like, whoa, man man you need to take it easy and don't punch the bread my nan used to make bread and she said she made with love let me show you how and then he comes around the back of anthony and he puts his hands over his hands and he rubs
Starting point is 00:28:34 i imagine we don't see it it's not explicit but it's a very clear come on and it's um it's kind of hot it is and he he comes around the back and he rubs himself up against Anthony. And then Anthony, because I think it's just he's assumed that Giuseppe was straight. He was told by Charlotte. Yeah. But he flips. Yeah, he does. So Giuseppe's like, I'm gay, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And Anthony's like. I'm paraphrasing. And he's like, you're fired. He said immediately. So Giuseppe says, I'm gay. Anthony says, you're fired. Giuseppe's like, what? Ihrasing. And he's like, you're fired. He said immediately. So Giuseppe says, I'm gay. Anthony says, you're fired.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Giuseppe's like, I'm going to get a lawyer. He says that afterwards. That's the first thing that ran through my mind. Anyway, look, it's chaos. What's happening here is Anthony very wisely has gone,
Starting point is 00:29:19 I can't have an employer who I am this attracted to and be a remotely available option romantically for me this is terror this is a bad scene yeah and i think there's some wisdom to that is he lacking a bit of judgment by firing someone the second they reveal themselves to be gay also yes he's put himself in incredible legal jeopardy however morally, morally, I think he's sort of, his heart's in the right place. How do you go about working with me? I think we'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Ow! So, long story short. Damn, that was my big swing. They hook up yeah and it's super hot Guy was making a coffee I think at the time
Starting point is 00:30:13 I saw it you were watching but from further away I saw him kissing I was closer to the TV speaking of moments and he says he says
Starting point is 00:30:20 he says he says he says here's what he says you ready for this yeah I'm ready for this. Giuseppe says, I quit, and kisses him. And then Giuseppe says, how about what now?
Starting point is 00:30:33 And then Anthony says, I'm fucked. And then Giuseppe says, not yet. Not yet. He says it like Zazu in Lion King. No, he doesn't. Not yet. Rowan Atkinson in the show oh there was okay so the person who um this is a boring fucking plot line that goes nowhere but uh aiden and carrie staying in shay's apartment is disallowed because it's an airbnb situation you
Starting point is 00:30:59 can't have yeah yeah and so they make up that they are they very badly lie to a person they keep meeting in the hall who lives opposite Shay, that they're Shay's cousins. And yeah, fun little thing. You know, Aidan can't lie. He's like George Washington in that way. He's terrible at it. He cannot tell a lie. And he says, that's they them. That's their pronouns. And he says, that's they, them. Points at Joseph Holmes.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That's they, them. That's their pronouns. We are their cousins, Brad. Brad and Janet. And then the neighbor's like, whatever the fuck. Doesn't really care. And I was like, two things. That guy should be Nathan Lane. But also, he's not, and he's a really good actor.
Starting point is 00:31:41 He doesn't say a word in the whole episode, but does really good acting. And then later on, they reappear a week later to stay again and uh and he's like yep the old cousins again doug and jen and then carrie's like brad and he's like yeah doug brad i just you know a bad name is funny so aiden's running this running this bit where he's called doug brad and it's janet uh i'm just i'm aware we're going to run out of time and a lot of this is non-essential but there's some stuff that i know that you're going to want to get to so aiden and carrie she's got nothing in their apartment in the way of kitchenware so oh the paper mill yeah aiden calls a pepper grinder a pepper mill
Starting point is 00:32:19 which really bothered you they buy a lot of uh homeware they have a really blissful moment it's quite a sweet it actually portrays i mean you know it's not it's not new love but it portrays the blush of um it is it's a version of new life really beautifully like yeah you know the idea of them because they're not moving in together but they get they're in a situation where they can role play what it's like choosing homework and stuff and And it is actually quite a sweet moment. It is. I bought it. I liked it. So we have that. Print it. We have Charlotte trying on an outfit with Lisa Tobwexley gets a small look in.
Starting point is 00:32:52 The rest of her family's not there. She's in a cool outfit. Yeah. Really good color blocking. It was like. A green sort of onesie jumpsuit type thing. Highlighter green. Like a sort of a neon green.
Starting point is 00:33:02 With a purple jacket and a yellow sort of belt slash bum bag yeah you got it uh it's really good color blocking it is a fantastic outfit charlotte tries on an outfit there's some young woman helping out who when the dress that charlotte tries on is it looks fantastic but they all think or charlotte says it's a little bit too tight the woman goes and brings back two MoMo's they're not MoMo's she says in the episode they're MoMo's
Starting point is 00:33:29 and actually also first of all Charlotte when she's swatting through outfits she's like I know what I want to wear I want to wear this it's like what I used to wear
Starting point is 00:33:34 but modern she pulls out a label and you're thinking surely this is a price tag thing and she says it's in my size and then you said like a fucking price tag
Starting point is 00:33:43 could intervene in this universe, which I loved. Tries it on. It comes back out. Basically, Charlotte has her own moment that Samantha had in Sex and the City 2, which is that I am 50 fucking 2 and I will rock this dress. Just had to cover that off. Also had to cover off the agenda. We got a few items to get to, folks, before we close off the agenda well we got a few items to get to folks before we close off the agm so after
Starting point is 00:34:06 after the uh they go showing for cookware shay comes to their apartment to check in because the neighbor's been like your cousins are freaking me out so shay comes over and carrie and aiden are having a lot of romance um and carrie this is my shining eye actually. Carrie opens a beer on the counter in a way. Oh, that bit. Which was totally natural and relaxed and just totally betrayed my... Carrie is sort of... That was SJP. Yeah. She dropped out of Carrie Bradshaw for a second.
Starting point is 00:34:37 For a flash, that's right. Carrie couldn't do that. No, but Sarah Jessica Parker opened a... Whips the scab off a beer on a marble bench. Yeah, it's got a hard edge, which you shouldn't do on someone's marble bench top because you will damage it. You'll chip it.
Starting point is 00:34:51 But she nails it. She crushes it. That was my shining light. Shay asks a very confronting question without really knowing it at all, but they see that they're so happy and Shay says, yeah, I got a question.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Why didn't this work out the first time? Yeah. Like reflecting on how lovely. Everyone's having such a lovely time. They're so swooped up in this romance. And Shay just goes, yeah, why didn't this work out the first time? It feels heavy. Don't fucking ask that.
Starting point is 00:35:18 It feels like it's going to fuck them up. Don't invite that. Carrie, reflecting on her big was a big mistake thing, says I made a mistake. And then they have a big teary hug. But Shay's still just there it's an even bigger moment they're watching this couple hug uh my shining light yeah no you keep going well this is what i'm getting to because we haven't even touched on this guy and this guy was a scene stealer what guy what guy are you fucking kidding me we're at seymour's real estate firm oh my god i forgot about it yeah i know i we just couldn't get through that without honoring elliot it's like
Starting point is 00:35:55 sometimes there's a character who's so out of place that sort of when you're in the groove of all the other boring shit going on in the episode they're they're in a totally separate bit of your brain they're in a fun compartment that the drawer is shut to. Locked away. But let's open the drawer and welcome in a character who seems to be the love child of Tim Burton and Wes Anderson collabing on just one television character. They've overlaid, each of them have overlaid
Starting point is 00:36:22 their own vision and costuming on what we would call a Jordan Peterson prototype. It is sick. It rocks. It's like a golf plaid outfit that he's wearing, head to toe, one pattern, very solid. Yeah. This is the annoying thing about Jordan Peterson. He's such a fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:36:44 But he's doing such wild shit with his suits that every now and then you're like fuck yeah all right yeah you know it's broken clock is right twice a day sort of thing and this would be in in uh part of the oeuvre of him being correct in his broken fashion choice um this guy is larger than life he's fun he's big he's he's he's witty he's charismatic he's got a cool beard he's got these great circle glasses are so fucking cool man you're wearing a pretty jaunty pair of shades yourself do you know i need specs i am like um i can feel my eyes my eyesight diminishing by the day at the moment. Really? And I'm overdue an eye test.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And I think I need to go into an eyed place, get a test, get some... I was going to name one. I was like, oh, fuck it. They're not giving us money. Were you going to... You're not going to say optometrist? Oh, I was going to say a brand of optometrist. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah, yeah. But I stopped myself. You're going to say... No? oh it's gonna say a brand of oh i say yeah yeah but i stopped myself you're gonna say no different one that's the one i thought of um who are you gonna say oh let's talk about elliot no different one what was it oh yeah that's the river yeah they are uh suck it suck it to three optometrists. Anyway, watch the episode for Elliot. He's in it for two minutes and he hands off a client to Seema
Starting point is 00:38:11 who he's got. He's like, we've got this. Is he a Marvel director? Yeah, Marvel director. In some ways, you could think of him as sort of like a shittier version
Starting point is 00:38:20 of Taika Waititi. Well, he kind of, I mean, truth be told, when he came in with the shades on, I thought it was, for a flash, I thought it was Robert Downey Jr. Yeah. But then they took the sunnies off
Starting point is 00:38:31 and it was not Robert Downey Jr. But I was like, it's just some big swinging dick, sort of self-effacing director. It's not self-effacing. He's self-aggrandizing. Well, no, because he highlights his shortcomings. He says, I'm difficult to work with, and I'm always on the phone. But also, it's established that Elliot is gay and is sort of sick of this guy.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And he's like, Seema, this guy. He's straight. He's straight. He's got a lot of money. He's single. I'm going to make you work with him. And Seema's like, I don't want to. And then eventually does.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And actually, I think that's probably, in the world of the show, responsible for Seema being okay with Carrie being happy. I want happiness for Seema. Dude, you like her? No, I don't know if I do, but I just want her to be happy. Because even people I don't like very much, I still want them to be happy. They deserve happiness as well. Yep, my shining light.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Thanks for asking. It is, with a fucking bullet, the French stick of bread baguette telephone that Anthony has in the hot guy's office. He's on the phone all the time and it's a big old stick of bread that he's got to pick up and talk to people through. And I love it.
Starting point is 00:39:38 We haven't seen novelty telephones in television for too long. Well, the second time they had my phone in the kitchen. Your Alphs, your pizzas, your hamburgers. This is a bread and I love it. He answers a different phone in the second Hot Fella scene. He answers a plain black phone.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And it's Lorraine again. Boo. Why would you... Every time he's been on the phone here, he's been on a loaf of bread. Where is the props master on this shoot? But anyway, the bread phone rules. It's not its first outing.
Starting point is 00:40:03 It's the first time I've brought it up and it deserves mention. The only other thing that is worth mentioning is Harry. Harry, aka Runkle. We've actually spent
Starting point is 00:40:12 enough time with Harry now that he is Harry to me. Cool. That's a real, that's a huge shift from you because you watch Sex and the City 2 every week for a year
Starting point is 00:40:21 and wouldn't cross that Rubicon. He's like, he represents a regular as you know as regular as someone can be in this show
Starting point is 00:40:29 he's like just sort of riding sidecar to Charlotte's Wimps and Wimpsies yeah and he's like yeah you got it yeah
Starting point is 00:40:36 Charlotte's like Harry you're gonna have to pick up this thing and Harry's like yeah you told me I got it I said I would not everything's a big
Starting point is 00:40:43 song and dance he's like yeah yeah I'm like fucking holding it down here it's said I would Not everything's a big song and dance He's like Yeah Yeah I'm like fucking holding it down here It's cool It's sweet It's everyone around me
Starting point is 00:40:49 That's acting crazy Yeah Charlotte's trying to engineer A situation where Everyone will be sad And she's going back to work And worried Well no
Starting point is 00:40:57 I think she just wants Them to miss her Yeah Because she does say that explicitly That's the subtext I was reading into The line of dialogue where she says will you miss me Richard Burden?
Starting point is 00:41:07 we're just calling that text now that's enough isn't it? Rock doesn't care Lily doesn't care Harry doesn't care Charlotte's back at work with two people who are dressed insanely and I love it
Starting point is 00:41:23 and happiness for SEMA, bread phone. Fuck. Last word from Guy Montgomery and we'll wrap. Charlotte's boss, really great energy. Comes down the stairs. I mean, Charlotte's subplot is that because of menopause, she feels like she can't fit into her clothes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:38 She goes. What? Is it because of menopause? Yeah, she says menopause is the devil. She blames menopause. She goes into work. She's got on Spanx. She's got on all this shit to try and make her fit into this dress
Starting point is 00:41:49 that she thinks she has to wear. She goes into work. Two other, like Miranda and Charlotte are up against Gen X in their workplace. These two women are like, oh, the boss is going to come down. She's really cool. The boss comes down. I was like, I know that woman. Bang.
Starting point is 00:42:03 She plays the aunt in Kimberly akimbo the musical i saw on broadway i became enamored by her looked her up there's a new york times profile i was looking at photos of her apartment she was in there it wasn't sinister she also won the tony for best supporting actress which was well deserved it was a fantastic musical her performance was out of sight all of a sudden she's in there just like that universe. I fucking love it. Are you kidding me? Funnier still, she is coming down the stairs and is wearing whatever the fuck she wants. And Charlotte sees that and is like,
Starting point is 00:42:33 okay, and goes into the toilet and takes off her Spanx and throws them in the bin. Nice. And then takes the Spanx back out of the bin and puts them in her bag. Nice.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And you're like, well, lesson learned. Bye. And you're like, well, lesson learned. Bye. We'll find out. And just like that, it's the worst idea of all time. And just like that, they're at it again and they're having such a gay old time. And just like that, they're back.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Got Montgomery and Timothy back. And just like that, it's the worst idea of all time.

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