The Worst Idea Of All Time - AJLT S02E09

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

Miranda is worried about her son Brady because he is getting really good at making French fries, and the boys have reason to suspect he is rediscovering his true identity. In fact, his rediscovery of ...rats may even be the reason behind his romantic tryst with Lily (of Charlotte and Runkle fame), and before the end of the season, we just might see the ascendance of a new Rat Queen. Che Diaz is getting back into stand up, Herbert Wexley is showing his true colours, and while we still have time, Tim ranks the core characters in the...And Just Like That universe from most to least likeable: the results WILL NOT SHOCK YOU. We also run unnecessarily biological (yet still unlikely) analysis on a surfer dude's penis. And Tim curses (by saying Crud).Intro theme: Brendan LordanOutro theme: SterlingSupport us via our Substack for access to premium content Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yuck. Don't sniff a microphone. It's a bad thing to do. Why? Is it bad for the listener or is it bad for you? Because the microphone smells like all of your good and bad ideas from days gone by. It didn't smell like anything to me, but it's kind of like asking a question you don't want the answer to like there's no good result from sniffing a microphone what if what's the
Starting point is 00:00:50 best possible outcome okay what if somehow by some alchemy it smells fantastic and you are the first podcaster to bottle your own perfume which is the essence of a podcast toilet day yeah microphone i just think it just seems the worst toilet it seems so unlikely that it would be good load the microphone load the microphone load this microphone up with some thoughts from tim and guy here on the worst idea of all time i'm watching reca, recapping, reflecting, enjoying, speculating, learning, educating about feminism. This show had me and it lost me, man. And just like that, episode nine, fucking run your mouth. This thing, I'm starting to think it wasn't written for me.
Starting point is 00:01:41 For you and me, man. There's only two things happening in this episode. One, Brady the Rat King and Lily, Charlotte's daughter. Golden Blatt and Golden Girl.
Starting point is 00:01:52 She is smart. She is a go-getter. Her grades are great. She's being recruited by Charlotte via Miranda. No.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Charlotte via Miranda. Miranda via Charlotte. Miranda has asked. Miranda has put in a request for a good girl to come and rub off some of that good energy onto her troubled boy. That's right. Because, get this, Brady is working in food prep. Brady's working at his dad's bar, which is, I think, normal and cool for a teenage son.
Starting point is 00:02:25 He's in his 20s. Is he? I think he's like 20. I guess, would you have to be 21 to work at a bar in America? Yeah, probably would be, yeah. So we'll call him 21. We'll call him 21.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Hi, 21, I'm dad. Yeah, you are. He's recovering from heartbreak. I'd say he's probably out the other side of it to an extent. He's doing fine. Miranda's spinning out about the fact that he has a job at a bar
Starting point is 00:02:48 guess what people work in bars it's a good job Miranda actually went to a Chipotle in this episode I was like damn you running out of cash or what you fucking intern she's just like she has this unhinged conversation with brady about
Starting point is 00:03:08 like you know how his life's falling apart because he's because he's serving fries guess what someone has to make the fries for people to eat you're fucking ordering them why shouldn't your son be making them she actually she doesn't get fries or rice It seems like she's off carbs. She says no rice at Chipotle. And they don't do fries there. Well, it sounds like she doesn't understand the life cycle of a fry because she's never had one. She's afraid of what she doesn't know. She can't go back to Scout because of her relationship with Steve. This show picks up and puts down the name of the bar by the way storylines with such reckless abandon it honestly would give anyone whiplash in
Starting point is 00:03:50 the last episode miranda's whole thing was that she was an intern who was elevated to like ceo and then this episode it's like my son's fucking my friend's daughter oh yeah i didn't get to that the whole storyline fucking and and miranda no longer works it appears all miranda does is worry that her son is having sex since miranda and shay have broken up miranda has sort of taken a return to form i guess she worries about her son having sex and begrudges Naya, her roommate, landlord, friend, who is generously letting her crash in her ex-husband's studio, in-house studio. Naya's on Tinder and she is fucking a guy
Starting point is 00:04:36 with a sunburned back and a head of hair. He's got a fantastic rig. We assume he's got a monster hog. They're having really good sex. Guy assumes he's got a monster hog. Yeah, Tim reckons he's got a pin dick i reckon he's got an average penis but he knows how to use it he knows how to use it anyway she's having a great time and l.a ship miranda miranda is um it's you know through the
Starting point is 00:04:59 other side of the wall yeah guess what sorry it's a bit tricky for you your friend has put you up in their house yeah okay deal with it she's hungry fucking hell woman she's horny she's sleep deprived she's jealous of her son well maybe if she went to scout headed oh she can't even drink actually she's an alcoholic we've got some fries from brady she wouldn't feel so bad she's probably deprived of carbs maybe if she saw what brady was doing with that deep fry she might have some fucking respect for her boy yeah fucking i tell you what what do you reckon the chip policy is at scout when brady's running the fire i reckon there's one for us and one for them very low and them is the rats absolutely it is actually the perfect environment from which to
Starting point is 00:05:40 sort of rebuild the foundations of his rat empire. Because he's got access to a lot of nutrition for the rats. And as we all know, an army marches on its stomach. Yes, I feel like... Napoleon, I think, might have been misquoted as saying that by me. Here's Brady's situation. He's heartbroken. He takes on the job at Scout.
Starting point is 00:06:03 He's so inside of his own emotional experience which is totally reasonable that he is oblivious to the kingdom he once ran and the power he once held in the palm of his hand he's uh transferring from the deep fryer to the bowl before salting them chips one or two drop on the floor he ignores them he salts the chip he does the toss in the bowl it's actually really actually really satisfying. He then puts them in the basket. He gets them up on the pass. He looks down at the floor. What's that?
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's a couple of chips there, but they're not alone. Who's eating them? One rat? Huh. I used to know a rat. Hell, I used to know a lot of rats. Oh, well, back to the deep fryer. More chips.
Starting point is 00:06:45 He's getting a little sloppy. Maybe it's getting later in the night. Maybe he's drinking on the job. Three chips are on the floor. Huh, look at that. What's that? Two rats. Huh, two rats down there.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I used to know two rats. He's back on the deep fryer. You know, he's salting the chips. Four chips on the... Huh, three rats. Seems like the rats are getting to know this place pretty well. Seems like the rats are coming here for me. Brady?
Starting point is 00:07:11 Miranda and Charlotte are obsessed by knowing the intimate details of what their respective children are up to simply for the very normal fact that two teenagers slash people in their early 20s are having sexual relations with one another what they don't know is unfolding is brady is selecting a new rat queen lily no the rat queen wow and that is conflicting for charlotte because on one hand that's monarchy and on the other she hates rodents it's rats so it's honestly aside from this uh brady subplot that appears to be taking hold it's quite a regressive episode for
Starting point is 00:07:54 charlotte miranda i feel like they're reverting back to movie form in a way charlotte's getting really hit up and worried you know in a sort of something very dragon ball z about how you're describing this yeah you know how fraser goes through different like yeah but she's sort of she's like she's reverting back to sort of the you know the hapless helicopter parent who's not really nailing anything she's worried about um you know lily having sex it was all she thinks about it's all consuming she's flashing forward into the future if it works it's trouble if it doesn't work it's trouble
Starting point is 00:08:26 she can't get it out of her head Miranda is no longer prioritising herself really I mean I don't know Steve's off the scene
Starting point is 00:08:35 I'm just so haven't seen Steve in a while haven't seen Steve for a while we didn't see Nia all of the last episode we didn't see Herbert Wexley
Starting point is 00:08:40 all of the last episode we got half of a scene with Lisa Todd Wexley all of a sudden their centre stage we didn't see Nia at all all of the last episode. We got half of a scene with Lisa Todd Wexley. All of a sudden, their center stage. Did we not see Naya at all last year? Not at all last year. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:49 This episode, she's boning, she's boning, she's boning. She's on Instagram. Her husband's pregnant with his musical partner with the big Taylor Swift hat. She kicks the guy she was boning out of the bed. She's kind of rude to him, which I can understand. But also, I'm like, he didn't fucking divorce you and fuck his riding partner. He's fucking you.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And he's doing a good job. You're screaming. He's fucking you right. Yeah. So, you know. And he's only got a regular size dick, this guy. Exactly. He's no Giuseppe.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Giuseppe's also on the scene. Anthony's paranoid that Giuseppe was using him For a green card Anthony I feel for But then it kind of shifted for me Because I thought in the show Crud What's his name? Anthony and
Starting point is 00:09:34 Crud Yeah I haven't seen that for a while Stanford Stanford I thought he died in the show Because the actor who portrays Stanford Passed away in real life,
Starting point is 00:09:45 but he didn't. They just got... Do you know what they did? Do you know what they did? Exit of that letter. The actor who played Stanford died and in the world of the show, they made Stanford a sex criminal.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And the actor who plays Big stayed alive and in the show, they killed him. Wait, what? Did they make Stanford a sex criminal? Oh, you did? Come on now. That's rough. That's rough for us. stayed alive and in the show they killed him wait what did they make Stanford a sex crime oh you dude come on now that's rough that's rough for us
Starting point is 00:10:09 yeah that was rough but they do not give him a graceful exit whatsoever do you know what it was good that you didn't get that because you got to
Starting point is 00:10:16 play the role of audience director when they were let on the inside of the bit whereas if you'd rolled with it everyone would be like
Starting point is 00:10:22 eh what do you know who sees it like that? Who? Tim Meadows growing up too. Yeah, yeah, hard out. And all of his family too. Some of these are for you, some of them are for us.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Bump D. Because if this is a ploy, I'll destroy Illinois. Damn. Is that the bit where he rhymes dinosaur? Yeah. I think it's a different bit I don't know man I hated this episode
Starting point is 00:10:48 Okay tell me why What? Wella wella wella Tell me why Tell me why Give me details please Because Miranda and Charlotte Tell me why
Starting point is 00:10:58 The name of the show is Sex No And the City Wrong That they're from No Original And just like that they've become
Starting point is 00:11:08 these what weird sexually conservative parents it's incongruent with the characters it's incongruent with other episodes that they're in within this season of the show and do you know what my biggest problem of all is it's fucking boring there's a fucking boring plot line that we spend 75% of our time pursuing. It is tantalizing at the start. Miranda is the apartment she shares with Naya. There's only one bathroom. It's an en suite to Naya's room. Miranda wakes up one morning.
Starting point is 00:11:37 She needs to use the bathroom. Enough, she says. Naya is boning this surfer. Yeah, this pin dick surfer with the sunburnt back. It's not a pin-dick. He's got a regular dick. Okay. Well, according to me.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah. Oh, you think he's got a big hog? No. I think you're right. Okay. I think I got excited. Okay. I think this guy, do you know what it looks like?
Starting point is 00:12:01 If you saw like a, I don't know if you ever saw a book about my body is changing or whatever and it would show you like if you opened it it would show you sort of cartoon hand-drawn biological pictures of a man and a woman yeah and that you know would just show you a regular you know vanilla is g-rated cartoon penis that's exactly what it looks like he's got a kid's sex book dick yeah it's like when you first see it you think huh but you can't say anything but you're like damn you know because it's it's super unusual for a person a real person to have a cartoon dick but you sit and you're huh and then but you know what he knows how to use it fucking he knows how to use it when it's hard now he's going crazy when it's hard weirdly it becomes real okay so you are
Starting point is 00:12:57 literally talking about a two-dimensional drawn penis on this otherwise yeah but when he becomes aroused real life man you know a random boner it's like those have you seen clothes that are like that like you can get a handbag or a briefcase where it looks two dimensional
Starting point is 00:13:10 yeah they're like cartoony I think it's a really cool look it's that but in penis form when flaccid when erect three dimensions
Starting point is 00:13:18 all around it's kind of like the episode of the Simpsons when Homer goes behind the couch yeah through the portal yeah
Starting point is 00:13:24 that was a weird ep yeah it still winks me out I say it's real it's claymation Kind of like the episode of The Simpsons when Homer... Goes behind the couch? Yeah. Through the portal? Yeah. That was a weird ep. Yeah, it's claymation. It still wigs me out. I say it's real, it's claymation. No, but he steps into the real world. Yeah. There's real world footage in it. Yeah, no, but the dick is claymation.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Oh, the dick is claymation, I see. So when it's flaccid or when it's erect? When it's erect. So we've got a two-dimensional drawn dick. When it's flaccid, when it's erect, it becomes three a two-dimensional drawn dick when it's flaccid when it's erect it becomes three-dimensional but essentially plastic yeah but but and that is what naya's into we'll get about this when it's turgid yes it's real there's a middle there's a middle stage there is a third state of matter that this transient penis goes through yeah and that's all the three states of matter with normal
Starting point is 00:14:07 substances you got your gas your solid and your liquid with surfer man's penis we've got a flaccid two dimensional drawn cock that doesn't really possess mass with your penis we have the cock you're normally used to
Starting point is 00:14:24 on a real person When turgid And then when it transitions fully to erect A plasticine like substance Yeah, claymation Claymation That's interesting because it's not just that it's clay But it's also kind of going at like
Starting point is 00:14:39 12 frames a second instead of 24 Sometimes And I've not done this, but I have friends who have seen this guy have sex. Yes. If you are, like, if you, you know, and it's all about board, but if you see him having sex,
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. in the background of the penis, like in the background, like, you know, what it would be, I guess, extras by traditional cinematic or television terms. Oh, yeah. You can see Wallace and Gromit. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And Mel Gibson's chicken from Chicken Run. Mel Gibson's in Chicken Run? traditional cinematic or television terms oh yeah you can see wallace and gromit wow and and mel gibson's chicken from chicken run mel gibson's in chicken run mel gibson is chicken run mel gibson i've never seen chicken run i didn't know he was in it or it chicken runs it's a crazy choice when did chicken run come out i want to say 2002 when did that thing happen with that cop chicken run was actually a response to 9-11 was it like you know what america needs mel gibson in a stop-motion um chicken movie the thing with the cop is like you know i actually can't remember all the particulars i just know that there was a big incident all it is is not isolated yeah. Those things don't come out of nowhere. No. Look.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Well, what about Michael Richards, though? I actually, funnily enough... Michael Richards is Seinfeld's Kramer, and he had an incident quite famously. It was sort of his 9-11 in a way. It was terrible, and it has spawned one of the funniest bits of stand-up i've seen oh okay sorry i thought you were going to talk about his interview on letterman no no if you look up dave chappelle kramer it's an old old joke in response to that which was a very very funny bit
Starting point is 00:16:19 uh and then also no it was no i found it so i was weirdly last night i watched like an old 60 minutes piece on seinfeld in 1997 so it's like before the final season oh wow they're all getting paid a million dollars and it was like you know a piece on seinfeld and his life and his ascent and stuff and um then google starts serving me up stuff and it was like seinfeld watching norm mcdonald impressions from norm mcdonald live when he had the podcast on youtube and one of the impressions it was michael richards where he said michael richards before that happened used to go around the country talking to people about the bible he was telling he was michael richard really was telling norm he's like yeah i'm gonna go I'm gonna go across the country doing comedy and
Starting point is 00:17:07 telling people about the Bible really do you think someone could live in a whale I mean I don't know what's going on with that guy there's um a pretty legendary and historic bit of television when he went on letterman just after it happened um and he's there like via satellite as well and the whole thing is some of the most awkward chat show television probably ever produced it's nuts it's it's letterman trying to take things in one direction it has michael richards refusing to allow anything but this very earnest outpouring of like guilt and uh what's the word solemnity solemn solemnity solemnity is that the word i mean that is that is a word. It's that. That's the vibe. And he just refuses to let a comedy chat show, you know, vibe the way it's supposed to.
Starting point is 00:18:10 And he just wrestles control via satellite on a big screen. It's more of a modern development. But chat shows now have made, you know, Letterman was always ironic. So it was a very difficult place to communicate anything earnest. It's a very funny choice to actually offer contrition and apology. It was pretty ill-conceived all around. It was very, I think, generous of Letterman to give him the platform, but it was a fucking disaster.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Damn. And I don't think he even made that mistake. I mean, I would say the only thing that could rival YouTube for sheer variety of content is the plot lines and just like that. I'm just remembering that we've got Seema is in this episode. You think that there is an equivalency between the amount of storytelling within this one show and the entirety of YouTube. I do. Because suddenly you get these flashes of stuff that's happened.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It's crazy. I think earlier in the season, I was like, they've got a handle on this. They know what they're doing, but they're really just jamming a lot of stuff. They're just putting a lot of stuff in there. So you've got Seema is showing this director whose name I wrote down because I wanted to get it right.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Gordon Rave. Nope. Damn it. Worth a crack though. By the way, Aidan's kids are called Homer, Wyatt and Tate. The director is called Ravi Gordy. You were close. I was pretty close.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Ravi Gordy. And so she's showing them around apartments. They're looking at one that I reckon is, you know, if this guy, he keeps talking about how he was the best in New York. They're looking at one which looks fine. Oh, it's pretty Like by this show's By this show's
Starting point is 00:19:47 You know Aesthetic and standards Dog shit You'd be grateful to go there For a drink In real life Yeah But by the standards of the show
Starting point is 00:19:54 It's dog shit Anyway Turns out that he's into it They fuck in there And then he's obligated To rent the apartment To cover his tracks Because there's another real estate agent
Starting point is 00:20:02 Wondering what's taking so long Then they go out for a meal With Carrie and Aiden And Aiden's a big fan of this guy's work yeah you know like shea diaz is in this episode at the vet and there's a someone shows up with a box of kittens whose name is toby yeah and toby's like you look like that comedian shea diaz and shea diaz is like wow i've heard that before no they pointedly say I've never heard that no one's ever said that to me before oh that's right
Starting point is 00:20:26 yeah it's a joke yes and then it's sort of like oh wow Shay Diaz is still alive and then Toby says Toby finds out that Shay is Shay
Starting point is 00:20:33 yes says do you still do stand up she's like yeah I got some gigs coming up and then Shay says if you come back I'll tell you where one's happening
Starting point is 00:20:42 and Toby's like okay and you're like holy shit this is Shay getting on both back the romantic and comedic horses two horses horses akimbo imagine this two horses side by side one romantic the other comedy imagine this shay dares straddling both of them simultaneously trying to hold both reins to both you can't get your legs across two horses You really didn't You didn't even entertain that for a second
Starting point is 00:21:07 Standing I think standing on the backs of the horses With long reins Oh I Yes Like Roller skates I don't think that's any less silly than
Starting point is 00:21:16 Straddling them sitting Yeah you really went with me on the On the claymation penis And here I am saying You can't straddle two horses. Horses akimbo? No, no, no, no, no. The three states of animated matter of Surferman's penis?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yes, yes, yes. Anyway, you were making a point about the sheer variety of storylines we have to pick from and yet the wasted time that we have spent by just opening doors looking to see if Brady's fucking Lily behind this door who cares the other big plot
Starting point is 00:21:47 I keep coming back to which is featured heavily in this is and this is something I think Greg sort of spotlighted in passing Greg said
Starting point is 00:21:54 I don't like Herbert I think he's the villain of the show or something he's always horny he's disgusting or whatever which grated his
Starting point is 00:22:01 repressed British sensibilities that's right but now Herbert's coming out as just an out and out dirtbag or not like i guess he's like he's a piece of shit yeah he's an entitled like you know misogynistic husband who's like coming home he's complaining that his wife is working hard while he's running his campaign and that he's like you did you fed that you fed one of our kids sugar for dinner and he's like okay well i'm going to bed because the kids have eaten and he's like what about me what am i having for dinner it's like figure it fucking out 2023 and you live in new york city brother he's blowing up at her for being late to his event there's a there's an event in
Starting point is 00:22:39 this there's an event he's fundraising harry appears to be some sort of campaign manager don't you think it sounds like so much stuff it really does it doesn't feel like it but when you're so much to remember and they keep reintroducing like there's so much on the on the go it's like a marvel maybe this is what all shows have to be now it's just like there's fucking everything is, what's the word? Like legacy properties. You know, everything had to be established fucking eons ago from either a fucking graphic novel or a groundbreaking feminist TV show on HBO.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And then you have to build on that and just cram so many fucking references and characters and storylines and ABC plots. Honestly, as someone watching it it kind of works as someone sort of reflecting and recapping it it's fucking tying me in knots herbert's herbert's fucked he the thing that we forget though about herbert wexley is that he's going for comptroller i think yeah um what is that by i've never got my head around it. I think it's something to do like you're in charge of the public purse in a high-level seating in like a city council or something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah, it's on the state level. It's not federal. I reckon it'd be city. City. I think he would be like the New York City comptroller or something. Yeah. So it's pretty important. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Budgets. He got pushed into this. He didn't want to do it no well he sort of did but he resigned himself that he wasn't going to do it lisa pushed him into it despite announced it at the dinner lisa pushed him into it despite her dad who highlighted one of her shortcomings by being like he's never done anything for the community it's all driven by money right and she's like well being like, he's never done anything for the community. It's all driven by money. Right. And she's like, well, what about this? He's running for city comptroller.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah. And then in doing something which is technically for, you know. Others. Others. The community. It's highlighting the ways in which he individually.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yes. Is not a monster, but certainly. Very self-centered. lot of all the other characters are it's just impossible to be anything but selfish in this show harry's doing his best in this episode harry actually is harry's booking the harry is campaign manager and also you know uh man who's picking up the slack that charlotte's left shouldn't see started working a job is desperately trying to book a caterer because one of the people
Starting point is 00:25:06 who've been invited to this event that the golden blats are hosting said that there's no way those dumplings are kosher they taste too good and so he's scouting new york city for kosher catering which come on and he's struggling not the place the place that he's booked keep trying to get him to serve pigs and blankets is the entree and he saying, what sort of kosher caterer is pushing pigs in a blanket? This man has been a Jewish divorce lawyer in New York City for decades. He can hook himself up with a kosher caterer like this. It doesn't make any sense. You'd think you'd be connected.
Starting point is 00:25:38 For God's sake. Can you tell me, Tim? I really like Charlotte's kids. And I always have this whole season. This is perfect because what I want you to do, I think it's time in the season because we were both really on board and I think you're turning on the show for ranking. I want you to rank your most likable to least likable characters.
Starting point is 00:26:02 There's so many fucking characters. That's what I'm talking about. There's so many characters. These are our YouTube videos. Brady, top of the mountain. Okay, great. Love him. Great to see him.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Want to spend more time with him. Yeah. These are binding, by the way. You can't remember someone and then put them back up. I understand the rules of the game. I'm going to put Lily in second, Rock in third, Harry in fourth. The kids are all right. Harry's all right.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Harry's great. Love Harry. I'm going to put... I've forgotten his name. The man who was only in the last episode. Elliot. Elliot is number five. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah, I think side characters, you know... If they come to me, they are. Okay. So, wait. We've got Brady, Lily, Rock Who's fourth? Harry Then Elliot
Starting point is 00:26:50 Then Giuseppe Which is the hot poet that Anthony's now romantically involved with We've got Sydney from Alias' Handler One more time, who was after Rock? Harry And then you've got elliot oh yeah elliot and then you've got oh we had rock and then um uh runkle yeah brady lily rock harry elliot yeah then josepe yeah then um uh did i i fucking what was the Then Did I I fucking
Starting point is 00:27:25 What was the next one Sydney Oh yes Sydney from Alias No Sydney's the main one Sydney is What's her name Jennifer Garner
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah Jennifer Garner It's her handler Who also might be her dad in the show Okay It's that guy Legally To me he's from Legally Blonde His last name is Kasabian
Starting point is 00:27:43 And his first name doesn't matter to me I think it might be Howard Okay Why do you like him so much? Because he was Sidney's And he works for the CIA And in my mind It's him
Starting point is 00:27:54 It's the same character He's working a job Where his cover is He's an art handler 100% About to be three times divorced And now fucking Charlotte's involved Crazy stuff
Starting point is 00:28:01 Okay yeah Okay now this is going to blow your fucking mind Are you ready? Yeah Shay DS Yeah okay I'm not against it Keep going
Starting point is 00:28:10 Aiden Yeah So the rule is that the rankings finish when you've ranked All I guess four If we're allowing Seema as Seamantha Once they've all been ranked Seamantha That's the end of the list So you've got Cathy I guess four If we're allowing Seema as Samantha Once they've all been ranked Samantha That's
Starting point is 00:28:26 That's the end of the list So you've got Kathy Is next Aiden's ex Who just showed up Okay Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:35 She spoke to me Did she? She showed up by the way In this episode And talked to Carrie And said hey I know you're a writer I read your book
Starting point is 00:28:41 It moved me Don't write about my kids And also Don't hurt Aiden Yeah I thought that was cool And then what the fuck Did Carrie do with that
Starting point is 00:28:49 She read to Aiden And handled What a fucking That's such a bad move She did an Instagram post Of Wyatt having a tantrum No that's not true Wyatt's 14
Starting point is 00:29:00 And a real handful by the way He's not even on the list He doesn't make it on the list Because Kathy told me not to talk about him And we've broken the rule Keep going Wyatt's 14 in a real handful, by the way. He's not even on the list. He doesn't make it on the list. Because Cathy told me not to talk about him. And we've broken the rule. Keep going. Seema.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah. Incredible. Judy. Who's Judy? Judy is Shea's boss at the vet. Oh, yeah. The two interns. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:32 They are one person at Miranda's work. Yeah. Only one of the colleagues at the art gallery that Charlotte worked at last episode. The one with the point the really pointy black shouldered number. This feels so pointed.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I mean, I'm going to, again, use a conglomerate sort of character, but all the hot guys, the hot fellas, RIP. All the hot fellas.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Okay. Lisa Todd Wexley. Yeah. Naya. Yeah. okay lisa todd wexley yeah naya yeah surfer man yeah and then honestly and like it you know With all the context of this episode Of our podcast This is instructive But Herbert Wow
Starting point is 00:30:33 And then And then Charlotte Then Miranda Then Carrie Okay Can you read the list back? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:48 So, this is the ranking of most to least likable characters in And Just Like That. Cast this in stone. As told by Timbett after nine episodes of the second season. Nine of 11. Coincidence? Yes. Brady.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Brady. Keep going. Don't dwell on it. Lily. Rock. Harry. Elliot. Giuseppe Kasabian
Starting point is 00:31:08 Shea Diaz Aiden Kathy Seema Judy Shea Diaz is boss at the vet the two interns from Miranda's work the one colleague at the art gallery
Starting point is 00:31:20 with the pointy black shoulders correct all of the hot fellas guys who are injecting themselves with growth hormones. Yeah. Lisa Todd Wexley, Naya, Surfer Man,
Starting point is 00:31:30 Herbert, Charlotte, Miranda, Carrie. Yep. Feel good about it? You got an issue with that? I have no issues with that.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I will, I, hearing it back, it makes even more sense than as I was saying it aloud. No misses? Cast it in stone okay makes perfect sense to me okay there it is there it is well what do you foresee for these characters
Starting point is 00:31:52 um we've got two episodes left we keep waiting for this aiden and carrie storyline to bubble over it's like seeing a storm forming overhead and the um you know the met services told you there's a weather bomb coming and you're like fuck they don't get it right every time but that does look like it's going to be bad yeah that's the storm cloud we're saying about this whole carry aiden thing it's so loaded up they've really loaded it up i talked about the idea out loud during the episode today that maybe aiden will die and they'll do it to Carrie again. It seems too much. That would be too much.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I think they'd lose the fans if they did that. They'd lose a lot of them. I think, I mean, Carrie's umming and ahhing. She looks at a big new apartment. They get evicted from Shay's rental and then Aiden still can't go to the original apartment. So Carrie starts looking at a big apartment, shows Aiden still can't go to the original apartment. Yeah. So Carrie starts looking at a big apartment, shows Aiden. Aiden's like,
Starting point is 00:32:48 well, this is kind of a you decision. Fair. And Carrie's like, okay. And it feels to me like Aiden's not convinced. It feels to me like Carrie is doing something for Aiden, which he didn't ask for. It's going to introduce a lot of tension. We've only got two episodes to resolve this.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Do we think But then Can we forecast Yeah End of this season I like that we're staying with the weather metaphor End of the season Carrie and Aiden Together or not
Starting point is 00:33:17 Well I just want to say They do have that beautiful conversation Where She narks on Aiden's ex Kathy Yeah Kathy How could you call on Aiden's ex. Cathy. Yeah, Cathy. How could you call her Aiden's ex when you've got her as the ninth most likable character
Starting point is 00:33:30 in the entire universe? Because her relationship to both Carrie and Aiden is pertinent for what I'm about to say. If I say Cathy, people might not be able to remember all of the characters because there's a hundred people here. Yeah, there's infinite. It's because it's you and just like that. There are no small players. There are it's you and just like that there are no small players
Starting point is 00:33:46 there are only thousands of and just like that characters there should be a poster like they used to do those Simpsons posters with all of the characters yeah absolutely
Starting point is 00:33:54 that would be so good fuck that'd be good we should do it as merch and we should be in there too yeah but I can't draw is the trouble with that but if anyone wanted to do that that'd be so cool.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Fuck, that'd be cool. Okay. Where was I going with that? You were saying... Oh, they have the beautiful conversation where I don't know what triggers this because Carrie says something Carrie-esque, self-centered and self-absorbed.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And then Aidan's like, yeah, you know what? Maybe you will hurt me and I'll hurt you and we'll get pissy pissy at each other but we'll work it out because life is short and we love each other
Starting point is 00:34:30 and that was cool that was so nice foreshadowing that Aiden's about to die well that's what I think kinda and when she got the phone call she got a phone call
Starting point is 00:34:38 and it was from a Virginia number and I was like he's dead but he wasn't does Carrie go to Virginia in this season? Yeah, yeah, yeah Do we see that?
Starting point is 00:34:46 Here's ultimately Huge arc Like meta-analysis Zoomed out From space We're on the ISS Looking at the storm clouds forming This is what I think we see
Starting point is 00:34:56 The final episode Carrie's going to the big farm in Virginia She's off The show's killing her She's gonna get put down She is But we can't tell the kids Because it'll killing her she's gonna get put down she is but we can't tell the kids because it'll upset them
Starting point is 00:35:07 she's gonna get put down so for crimes against hats you know yeah you know there's a bad thing happening with the like
Starting point is 00:35:16 increasing frequency of hats you see on Carrie's head in the show and we saw a few hats today the hats the hats the hats of
Starting point is 00:35:24 Mattress Pike with Morse code When he's got the hats on So we've got to look out for that Because the hats have made a comeback They put her out in the big farm in Virginia With Aiden to live happily ever after She throws the keys to the apartment
Starting point is 00:35:41 To the very beautiful Young jewellery designer Who lives underneath her Because she's about keys to the apartment to the very beautiful jewelry designer who lives underneath her because she's about to inherit the apartment. And guess what? They're bringing back, not in Just Like That for a third season, they're bringing back Sex and the City, and they're calling it Sex and the City.
Starting point is 00:35:57 None of the gals are in it, and we're following the jewelry designer. This is a new show. That's what's happening. It's not a bad pitch. It's what's happening. They're setting what's happening it's not a bad pitch it's what's happening that's they're setting it up it's not a bad pitch to there's you know to confirm this the litmus test will be how much screen time do we get from jewelry designer in episodes 10 and 11 honestly they have juiced they've milked surely Mattress, Michael and King. You're a madman, but even you must admit that the fucking OG cast of Sex and the City,
Starting point is 00:36:29 you've juiced it dry. There's nothing left to do. Two movies? This? Twice? We're done. There's a world map with all of the characters' faces on them. And like Carrie's, you know, got all of Russia and China
Starting point is 00:36:42 and Miranda got America and Charlotte got like Australia. So they take up a lot of space, right? And then all of the other sort of secondary characters, they're in Europe, they're strength advocates and he just throws darts and wherever they land, he's like, that's who's getting the storyline.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah, right. This haphazard approach to storytelling does not guarantee that we will get the outcome We might deserve Because he's not looking when he throws the darts He's blindfolded Yeah But I think it's as good a guess as any
Starting point is 00:37:13 I mean I like it I think it ends with Carrie and Aidan I think on the precipice I think You still think they're going to leave that as a cliffhanger Like an unresolved... That's so unsatisfying. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:37:28 It makes you need another season. And do you think we're going to see an ascension of Brady now that he's picked a rat queen? I fucking hope so. The amount of side channels we've introduced for this franchise, the amount of money-making opportunities that are fucking stuffed inside of this podcast... Take a couple.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Honestly, we've got so many... Hey, guess what, Matt many hey guess what mattress we got ideas too yeah a lot of them yeah and we don't even play darts yeah piece of shit i would like the final episode of this series episode 11 to be it's it's a wedding episode shows do this all the time this fucking franchise had a whole movie where the first third was about it. Yeah. Do the wedding. Some of the best moments of my life were contained in that wedding. And in some ways you could call it the red wedding because fiery redhead dons our rat king. And he has selected a rat queen and a coronation is what we deserve. And a coronation is what we should get.
Starting point is 00:38:20 There's a lot of story to tell. There's only two episodes left. Can't wait to see what it is oh rating of this episode three three stars
Starting point is 00:38:34 we didn't do a shining light either I got I'm late for a meeting but I don't care my shining light was uh
Starting point is 00:38:43 Toby shows up with a box full of kittens. Shows like, you can't bring that here. And then Judy, the boss, is like, yeah, you got to take it to the animal shelter in wherever it is. Angelical cats. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah, nice. My shining light was actually Toby's sling bag. Yeah. It's fucking cool. There are some good bags out there. Someone was watching videos of bags. Was that in this bag? Yeah. It's fucking cool. There are some good bags out there. Someone was watching videos of bags. Was that in this show? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Bags. There's like videos of bags on YouTube. What the fuck was that? Something just like that on YouTube. All right. Well, I'm giving it a two and a half stars. Okay. Bye.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Bye. And just like that, it's the worst idea of all time and just like that they're at it again and they're having such a gay old time and just like that they're back got montgomery and timothy back and just like that it's the worst idea of all time

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