The Worst Idea Of All Time - AJLT S02E09
Episode Date: September 18, 2023Miranda is worried about her son Brady because he is getting really good at making French fries, and the boys have reason to suspect he is rediscovering his true identity. In fact, his rediscovery of ...rats may even be the reason behind his romantic tryst with Lily (of Charlotte and Runkle fame), and before the end of the season, we just might see the ascendance of a new Rat Queen. Che Diaz is getting back into stand up, Herbert Wexley is showing his true colours, and while we still have time, Tim ranks the core characters in the...And Just Like That universe from most to least likeable: the results WILL NOT SHOCK YOU. We also run unnecessarily biological (yet still unlikely) analysis on a surfer dude's penis. And Tim curses (by saying Crud).Intro theme: Brendan LordanOutro theme: SterlingSupport us via our Substack for access to premium content Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Yuck.
Don't sniff a microphone.
It's a bad thing to do.
Why?
Is it bad for the listener or is it bad for you?
Because the microphone smells like all of your good and bad ideas from days gone by.
It didn't smell like anything to me, but it's kind of like asking a question you don't
want the answer to like there's no good result from sniffing a microphone what if what's the
best possible outcome okay what if somehow by some alchemy it smells fantastic and you are the first
podcaster to bottle your own perfume which is the essence of a podcast toilet day yeah microphone i just think it just seems
the worst toilet it seems so unlikely that it would be good load the microphone
load the microphone load this microphone up with some thoughts from tim and guy here on the worst
idea of all time i'm watching reca, recapping, reflecting, enjoying, speculating, learning, educating about feminism.
This show had me and it lost me, man.
And just like that, episode nine, fucking run your mouth.
This thing, I'm starting to think it wasn't written for me.
For you and me, man.
There's only two things happening in this episode.
One,
Brady the Rat King
and Lily,
Charlotte's daughter.
Golden Blatt
and Golden Girl.
She is smart.
She is a go-getter.
Her grades are great.
She's being recruited
by
Charlotte
via Miranda.
No.
Charlotte via Miranda.
Miranda via Charlotte. Miranda has asked.
Miranda has put in a request for a good girl to come
and rub off some of that good energy onto her troubled boy.
That's right.
Because, get this, Brady is working in food prep.
Brady's working at his dad's bar,
which is, I think, normal and cool for a teenage son.
He's in his 20s.
Is he?
I think he's like 20.
I guess, would you have to be 21
to work at a bar in America?
Yeah, probably would be, yeah.
So we'll call him 21.
We'll call him 21.
Hi, 21, I'm dad.
Yeah, you are.
He's recovering from heartbreak.
I'd say he's probably out the other side of it
to an extent.
He's doing fine.
Miranda's spinning out about the fact that
he has a job at a bar
guess what
people work in bars
it's a good job
Miranda actually went to a Chipotle in this episode
I was like damn
you running out of cash or what
you fucking intern
she's just like she has this unhinged conversation with brady about
like you know how his life's falling apart because he's because he's serving fries guess what someone
has to make the fries for people to eat you're fucking ordering them why shouldn't your son be
making them she actually she doesn't get fries or rice It seems like she's off carbs. She says no rice at Chipotle.
And they don't do fries there.
Well, it sounds like she doesn't understand the life cycle of a fry because she's never had one.
She's afraid of what she doesn't know.
She can't go back to Scout because of her relationship with Steve.
This show picks up and puts down the name of the bar by the way storylines with such reckless abandon it honestly would give anyone whiplash in
the last episode miranda's whole thing was that she was an intern who was elevated to like ceo
and then this episode it's like my son's fucking my friend's daughter oh yeah i didn't get to that the whole storyline fucking
and and miranda no longer works it appears all miranda does is worry that her son is having sex
since miranda and shay have broken up miranda has sort of taken a return to form i guess
she worries about her son having sex and begrudges Naya, her roommate, landlord, friend,
who is generously letting her crash
in her ex-husband's studio, in-house studio.
Naya's on Tinder and she is fucking a guy
with a sunburned back and a head of hair.
He's got a fantastic rig.
We assume he's got a monster hog.
They're having really good sex.
Guy assumes he's got a monster hog.
Yeah, Tim reckons he's got a
pin dick i reckon he's got an average penis but he knows how to use it he knows how to use it
anyway she's having a great time and l.a ship miranda miranda is um it's you know through the
other side of the wall yeah guess what sorry it's a bit tricky for you your friend has put you up in
their house yeah okay deal with it she's hungry fucking hell woman she's horny she's sleep deprived
she's jealous of her son well maybe if she went to scout headed oh she can't even drink actually
she's an alcoholic we've got some fries from brady she wouldn't feel so bad she's probably
deprived of carbs maybe if she saw what brady was doing with that deep fry she might have some
fucking respect for her boy yeah fucking i tell you what what do you reckon
the chip policy is at scout when brady's running the fire i reckon there's one for us and one for
them very low and them is the rats absolutely it is actually the perfect environment from which to
sort of rebuild the foundations of his rat empire.
Because he's got access to a lot of nutrition for the rats.
And as we all know, an army marches on its stomach.
Yes, I feel like...
Napoleon, I think, might have been misquoted as saying that by me.
Here's Brady's situation.
He's heartbroken.
He takes on the job at Scout.
He's so inside of his own
emotional experience which is totally reasonable that he is oblivious to the kingdom he once ran
and the power he once held in the palm of his hand he's uh transferring from the deep fryer to the
bowl before salting them chips one or two drop on the floor he ignores them he salts the chip he
does the toss in the bowl it's actually really actually really satisfying. He then puts them in the basket.
He gets them up on the pass.
He looks down at the floor.
What's that?
It's a couple of chips there, but they're not alone.
Who's eating them?
One rat?
Huh.
I used to know a rat.
Hell, I used to know a lot of rats.
Oh, well, back to the deep fryer.
More chips.
He's getting a little sloppy.
Maybe it's getting later in the night.
Maybe he's drinking on the job.
Three chips are on the floor.
Huh, look at that.
What's that?
Two rats.
Huh, two rats down there.
I used to know two rats.
He's back on the deep fryer.
You know, he's salting the chips.
Four chips on the...
Huh, three rats.
Seems like the rats are getting to know this place pretty well.
Seems like the rats are coming here for me.
Brady?
Miranda and Charlotte are obsessed
by knowing the intimate details of what their respective children are up to
simply for the very normal fact that two teenagers
slash people in their early 20s are having sexual relations with
one another what they don't know is unfolding is brady is selecting a new rat queen
lily no the rat queen wow and that is conflicting for charlotte because on one hand
that's monarchy and on the other she hates rodents it's rats so it's honestly aside
from this uh brady subplot that appears to be taking hold it's quite a regressive episode for
charlotte miranda i feel like they're reverting back to movie form in a way charlotte's getting
really hit up and worried you know in a sort of something very dragon ball z about how you're describing
this yeah you know how fraser goes through different like yeah but she's sort of she's
like she's reverting back to sort of the you know the hapless helicopter parent who's not really
nailing anything she's worried about um you know lily having sex it was all she thinks about it's
all consuming she's flashing forward into the future if it works it's trouble
if it doesn't work
it's trouble
she can't get it
out of her head
Miranda is
no longer prioritising
herself really
I mean
I don't know
Steve's off the scene
I'm just so
haven't seen Steve
in a while
haven't seen Steve
for a while
we didn't see Nia
all of the last episode
we didn't see Herbert Wexley
all of the last episode
we got half of a scene
with Lisa Todd Wexley
all of a sudden
their centre stage we didn't see Nia at all all of the last episode. We got half of a scene with Lisa Todd Wexley. All of a sudden, their center stage.
Did we not see Naya at all last year?
Not at all last year.
Oh, okay.
This episode, she's boning, she's boning, she's boning.
She's on Instagram.
Her husband's pregnant with his musical partner
with the big Taylor Swift hat.
She kicks the guy she was boning out of the bed.
She's kind of rude to him, which I can understand.
But also, I'm like, he didn't fucking divorce you and fuck his riding partner.
He's fucking you.
And he's doing a good job.
You're screaming.
He's fucking you right.
Yeah.
So, you know.
And he's only got a regular size dick, this guy.
Exactly.
He's no Giuseppe.
Giuseppe's also on the scene.
Anthony's paranoid that Giuseppe was using him For a green card
Anthony I feel for
But then it kind of shifted for me
Because I thought in the show
Crud
What's his name?
Anthony and
Crud
Yeah
I haven't seen that for a while
Stanford
Stanford
I thought he died in the show
Because the actor who portrays Stanford
Passed away in real life,
but he didn't.
They just got...
Do you know what they did?
Do you know what they did?
Exit of that letter.
The actor who played Stanford died
and in the world of the show,
they made Stanford a sex criminal.
And the actor who plays Big stayed alive
and in the show, they killed him.
Wait, what?
Did they make Stanford a sex criminal?
Oh, you did? Come on now. That's rough. That's rough for us. stayed alive and in the show they killed him wait what did they make Stanford a sex crime oh you dude
come on now
that's rough
that's rough for us
yeah that was rough
but they do not
give him a graceful exit
whatsoever
do you know what
it was good that you
didn't get that
because you got to
play the role of
audience director
when they were
let on the inside
of the bit
whereas if you'd
rolled with it
everyone would be like
eh
what
do you know who sees it like that?
Who?
Tim Meadows growing up too.
Yeah, yeah, hard out.
And all of his family too.
Some of these are for you, some of them are for us.
Bump D.
Because if this is a ploy, I'll destroy Illinois.
Damn.
Is that the bit where he rhymes dinosaur?
Yeah.
I think it's a different bit
I don't know man
I hated this episode
Okay tell me why
What?
Wella wella wella
Tell me why
Tell me why
Give me details please
Because Miranda and Charlotte
Tell me why
The name of the show is Sex
No
And the City
Wrong
That they're from
No
Original
And just like that they've become
these what weird sexually conservative parents it's incongruent with the characters it's incongruent
with other episodes that they're in within this season of the show and do you know what my biggest
problem of all is it's fucking boring there's a fucking boring plot line that we spend 75% of our time pursuing.
It is tantalizing at the start.
Miranda is the apartment she shares with Naya.
There's only one bathroom.
It's an en suite to Naya's room.
Miranda wakes up one morning.
She needs to use the bathroom.
Enough, she says.
Naya is boning this surfer.
Yeah, this pin dick surfer with the sunburnt back.
It's not a pin-dick.
He's got a regular dick.
Okay.
Well, according to me.
Yeah.
Oh, you think he's got a big hog?
No.
I think you're right.
Okay.
I think I got excited.
Okay.
I think this guy, do you know what it looks like?
If you saw like a, I don't know if you ever saw a book about my body is changing
or whatever and it would show you like if you opened it it would show you sort of cartoon
hand-drawn biological pictures of a man and a woman yeah and that you know would just show
you a regular you know vanilla is g-rated cartoon penis that's exactly what it looks like he's got a kid's sex book dick yeah it's like when you first
see it you think huh but you can't say anything but you're like damn you know because it's it's
super unusual for a person a real person to have a cartoon dick but you sit and you're huh and then
but you know what he knows how to use it fucking he knows how
to use it when it's hard now he's going crazy when it's hard weirdly it becomes real okay so you are
literally talking about a two-dimensional drawn penis on this otherwise yeah but when he becomes
aroused real life man you know a random boner
it's like those
have you seen clothes
that are like that
like you can get a handbag
or a briefcase
where it looks two dimensional
yeah
they're like cartoony
I think it's a really cool look
it's that
but in penis form
when flaccid
when erect
three dimensions
all around
it's kind of like
the episode of the Simpsons
when Homer
goes behind the couch
yeah
through the portal
yeah
that was a weird ep yeah it still winks me out I say it's real it's claymation Kind of like the episode of The Simpsons when Homer... Goes behind the couch? Yeah. Through the portal? Yeah.
That was a weird ep.
Yeah, it's claymation. It still wigs me out.
I say it's real, it's claymation.
No, but he steps into the real world.
Yeah.
There's real world footage in it.
Yeah, no, but the dick is claymation.
Oh, the dick is claymation, I see.
So when it's flaccid or when it's erect?
When it's erect.
So we've got a two-dimensional drawn dick.
When it's flaccid, when it's erect, it becomes three a two-dimensional drawn dick when it's flaccid when it's erect it becomes three-dimensional but essentially plastic yeah but but and that is what naya's into we'll
get about this when it's turgid yes it's real there's a middle there's a middle stage there
is a third state of matter that this transient penis goes through yeah and that's all the three states of matter
with normal
substances you got your gas
your solid and your liquid
with surfer man's penis
we've got a flaccid
two dimensional drawn cock
that doesn't really possess mass
with your penis
we have the cock you're normally used to
on a real person
When turgid
And then when it transitions fully to erect
A plasticine like substance
Yeah, claymation
Claymation
That's interesting because it's not just that it's clay
But it's also kind of going at like
12 frames a second instead of 24
Sometimes
And I've not done this,
but I have friends who have seen this guy have sex.
Yes.
If you are, like, if you, you know,
and it's all about board,
but if you see him having sex,
Yeah.
in the background of the penis,
like in the background, like, you know,
what it would be, I guess,
extras by traditional cinematic or television terms.
Oh, yeah.
You can see Wallace and Gromit.
Wow.
And Mel Gibson's chicken from Chicken Run. Mel Gibson's in Chicken Run? traditional cinematic or television terms oh yeah you can see wallace and gromit wow and and mel
gibson's chicken from chicken run mel gibson's in chicken run mel gibson is chicken run mel gibson
i've never seen chicken run i didn't know he was in it or it chicken runs it's a crazy choice when
did chicken run come out i want to say 2002 when did that thing happen with that cop chicken run was actually a response to 9-11
was it like you know what america needs mel gibson in a stop-motion um chicken movie the thing with
the cop is like you know i actually can't remember all the particulars i just know that there was a
big incident all it is is not isolated yeah. Those things don't come out of nowhere. No.
Look.
Well, what about Michael Richards, though?
I actually, funnily enough... Michael Richards is Seinfeld's Kramer,
and he had an incident quite famously.
It was sort of his 9-11 in a way.
It was terrible,
and it has spawned one of the funniest bits of stand-up i've seen oh
okay sorry i thought you were going to talk about his interview on letterman no no if you look up
dave chappelle kramer it's an old old joke in response to that which was a very very funny bit
uh and then also no it was no i found it so i was weirdly last night i watched like an old 60 minutes
piece on seinfeld in 1997 so it's like before the final season oh wow they're all getting paid a
million dollars and it was like you know a piece on seinfeld and his life and his ascent and stuff
and um then google starts serving me up stuff and it was like seinfeld watching
norm mcdonald impressions from norm mcdonald live when he had the podcast on youtube and one of the
impressions it was michael richards where he said michael richards before that happened used to go
around the country talking to people about the bible he was telling he was michael richard really
was telling norm he's like yeah i'm gonna go I'm gonna go across the country doing comedy and
telling people about the Bible really do you think someone could live in a whale
I mean I don't know what's going on with that guy there's um a pretty legendary
and historic bit of television when he went on letterman just
after it happened um and he's there like via satellite as well and the whole thing is some
of the most awkward chat show television probably ever produced it's nuts it's it's letterman trying to take things in one direction it has michael richards
refusing to allow anything but this very earnest outpouring of like guilt and uh what's the word
solemnity solemn solemnity solemnity is that the word i mean that is that is a word. It's that. That's the vibe. And he just refuses to let a comedy chat show, you know,
vibe the way it's supposed to.
And he just wrestles control via satellite on a big screen.
It's more of a modern development.
But chat shows now have made, you know, Letterman was always ironic.
So it was a very difficult place to communicate anything earnest.
It's a very funny choice to actually offer contrition and apology.
It was pretty ill-conceived all around.
It was very, I think, generous of Letterman to give him the platform,
but it was a fucking disaster.
Damn.
And I don't think he even made that mistake.
I mean, I would say the only thing that could rival YouTube
for sheer variety of content is the plot lines and just like that.
I'm just remembering that we've got Seema is in this episode.
You think that there is an equivalency between the amount of storytelling within this one show and the entirety of YouTube.
I do.
Because suddenly you get these flashes of stuff that's happened.
It's crazy.
I think earlier in the season, I was like,
they've got a handle on this.
They know what they're doing,
but they're really just jamming a lot of stuff.
They're just putting a lot of stuff in there.
So you've got Seema is showing this director
whose name I wrote down because I wanted to get it right.
Gordon Rave.
Nope.
Damn it.
Worth a crack though.
By the way, Aidan's kids are called Homer, Wyatt and Tate.
The director is called Ravi Gordy.
You were close.
I was pretty close.
Ravi Gordy.
And so she's showing them around apartments.
They're looking at one that I reckon is, you know,
if this guy, he keeps talking about how he was the best in New York.
They're looking at one which looks fine.
Oh, it's pretty
Like by this show's
By this show's
You know
Aesthetic and standards
Dog shit
You'd be grateful to go there
For a drink
In real life
Yeah
But by the standards of the show
It's dog shit
Anyway
Turns out that he's into it
They fuck in there
And then he's obligated
To rent the apartment
To cover his tracks
Because there's another real estate agent
Wondering what's taking so long
Then they go out for a meal
With Carrie and Aiden And Aiden's a big fan of this guy's work yeah you know like
shea diaz is in this episode at the vet and there's a someone shows up with a box of kittens
whose name is toby yeah and toby's like you look like that comedian shea diaz and shea diaz is like
wow i've heard that before no they pointedly say I've never heard that no one's ever said that
to me before
oh that's right
yeah it's a joke
yes
and then it's sort of like
oh wow
Shay Diaz is still alive
and then Toby says
Toby finds out that
Shay is Shay
yes
says do you still do stand up
she's like yeah
I got some gigs coming up
and then
Shay says
if you come back
I'll tell you where one's happening
and Toby's like okay
and you're like
holy shit
this is Shay getting on both back the romantic and comedic horses two horses
horses akimbo imagine this two horses side by side one romantic the other comedy imagine this
shay dares straddling both of them simultaneously trying to hold both reins to both you can't get
your legs across two horses You really didn't
You didn't even entertain that for a second
Standing
I think standing on the backs of the horses
With long reins
Oh I
Yes
Like
Roller skates
I don't think that's any less silly than
Straddling them sitting
Yeah you really went with me on the
On the claymation penis
And here I am saying
You can't straddle two horses.
Horses akimbo?
No, no, no, no, no.
The three states of animated matter of Surferman's penis?
Yes, yes, yes.
Anyway, you were making a point about the sheer variety
of storylines we have to pick from
and yet the wasted time that we have spent
by just opening doors looking to see
if Brady's fucking Lily behind this door
who cares
the other big plot
I keep coming back to
which is featured heavily
in this
is
and this is something
I think Greg sort of
spotlighted in passing
Greg said
I don't like Herbert
I think he's the villain
of the show
or something
he's always horny
he's disgusting
or whatever
which grated his
repressed British sensibilities
that's right
but now Herbert's coming out as just an out and out dirtbag or not like i guess he's like he's a piece of shit yeah
he's an entitled like you know misogynistic husband who's like coming home he's complaining
that his wife is working hard while he's running his campaign and that he's like you did you fed
that you fed one of our kids sugar for dinner and he's like okay well i'm going to bed because the kids have eaten and he's like what
about me what am i having for dinner it's like figure it fucking out 2023 and you live in new
york city brother he's blowing up at her for being late to his event there's a there's an event in
this there's an event he's fundraising harry appears to be some sort of campaign manager don't you think it sounds like so much stuff it really does it doesn't feel like it but
when you're so much to remember and they keep reintroducing like there's so much on the on the
go it's like a marvel maybe this is what all shows have to be now it's just like there's
fucking everything is,
what's the word?
Like legacy properties.
You know, everything had to be established fucking eons ago from either a fucking graphic novel
or a groundbreaking feminist TV show on HBO.
And then you have to build on that
and just cram so many fucking references
and characters and storylines and ABC plots.
Honestly, as someone watching it it
kind of works as someone sort of reflecting and recapping it it's fucking tying me in knots
herbert's herbert's fucked he the thing that we forget though about herbert wexley is that he's
going for comptroller i think yeah um what is that by i've never got my head around it. I think it's something to do like you're in charge of the public purse
in a high-level seating in like a city council or something like that.
Yeah, it's on the state level.
It's not federal.
I reckon it'd be city.
City.
I think he would be like the New York City comptroller or something.
Yeah.
So it's pretty important.
Yeah.
Budgets.
He got pushed into this. He didn't want to do it no well he sort of did but he resigned himself that he wasn't going
to do it lisa pushed him into it despite announced it at the dinner lisa pushed him into it despite
her dad who highlighted one of her shortcomings by being like he's never done anything for the
community it's all driven by money right and she's like well being like, he's never done anything for the community. It's all driven by money.
Right.
And she's like, well, what about this?
He's running for city comptroller.
Yeah.
And then in doing something
which is technically for, you know.
Others.
Others.
The community.
It's highlighting the ways
in which he individually.
Yes.
Is not a monster,
but certainly.
Very self-centered. lot of all the other characters
are it's just impossible to be anything but selfish in this show harry's doing his best
in this episode harry actually is harry's booking the harry is campaign manager and also you know
uh man who's picking up the slack that charlotte's left shouldn't see started working a job
is desperately trying to book a caterer because one of the people
who've been invited to this event that the golden blats are hosting said that there's no way those
dumplings are kosher they taste too good and so he's scouting new york city for kosher catering
which come on and he's struggling not the place the place that he's booked keep trying to get him
to serve pigs and blankets is the entree and he saying, what sort of kosher caterer is pushing pigs in a blanket?
This man has been a Jewish divorce lawyer in New York City for decades.
He can hook himself up with a kosher caterer like this.
It doesn't make any sense.
You'd think you'd be connected.
For God's sake.
Can you tell me, Tim?
I really like Charlotte's kids.
And I always have this whole season.
This is perfect because what I want you to do,
I think it's time in the season because we were both really on board
and I think you're turning on the show for ranking.
I want you to rank your most likable to least likable characters.
There's so many fucking characters.
That's what I'm talking about.
There's so many characters.
These are our YouTube videos.
Brady, top of the mountain.
Okay, great.
Love him.
Great to see him.
Want to spend more time with him.
Yeah.
These are binding, by the way.
You can't remember someone and then put them back up.
I understand the rules of the game.
I'm going to put Lily in second, Rock in third, Harry in fourth.
The kids are all right.
Harry's all right.
Harry's great.
Love Harry.
I'm going to put...
I've forgotten his name.
The man who was only in the last episode.
Elliot.
Elliot is number five.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think side characters, you know...
If they come to me, they are.
Okay.
So, wait.
We've got Brady, Lily, Rock
Who's fourth?
Harry
Then Elliot
Then Giuseppe
Which is the hot poet that Anthony's now romantically involved with
We've got Sydney from Alias' Handler
One more time, who was after Rock?
Harry
And then you've got
elliot oh yeah elliot and then you've got oh we had rock and then um uh runkle yeah
brady lily rock harry elliot yeah then josepe yeah then um uh did i i fucking what was the Then Did I I fucking
What was the next one
Sydney
Oh yes
Sydney from Alias
No Sydney's the main one
Sydney is
What's her name
Jennifer Garner
Yeah Jennifer Garner
It's her handler
Who also might be her dad in the show
Okay
It's that guy
Legally
To me he's from Legally Blonde
His last name is Kasabian
And his first name doesn't matter to me
I think it might be Howard
Okay
Why do you like him so much?
Because he was Sidney's
And he works for the CIA
And in my mind
It's him
It's the same character
He's working a job
Where his cover is
He's an art handler
100%
About to be three times divorced
And now fucking Charlotte's involved
Crazy stuff
Okay yeah
Okay now this is going to blow your fucking mind
Are you ready?
Yeah
Shay DS
Yeah okay
I'm not against it
Keep going
Aiden
Yeah
So the rule is that the rankings finish when you've ranked
All I guess four
If we're allowing Seema as Seamantha
Once they've all been ranked
Seamantha That's the end of the list So you've got Cathy I guess four If we're allowing Seema as Samantha Once they've all been ranked Samantha
That's
That's the end of the list
So you've got
Kathy
Is next
Aiden's ex
Who just showed up
Okay
Yeah
She spoke to me
Did she?
She showed up by the way
In this episode
And talked to Carrie
And said hey
I know you're a writer
I read your book
It moved me
Don't write about my kids
And also
Don't hurt Aiden
Yeah
I thought that was cool
And then what the fuck
Did Carrie do with that
She read to Aiden
And handled
What a fucking
That's such a bad move
She did an Instagram post
Of Wyatt having a tantrum
No that's not true
Wyatt's 14
And a real handful by the way
He's not even on the list
He doesn't make it on the list
Because Kathy told me not to talk about him And we've broken the rule Keep going Wyatt's 14 in a real handful, by the way. He's not even on the list. He doesn't make it on the list.
Because Cathy told me not to talk about him.
And we've broken the rule.
Keep going.
Seema.
Yeah.
Incredible.
Judy.
Who's Judy?
Judy is Shea's boss at the vet.
Oh, yeah.
The two interns.
Okay.
They are one person at Miranda's work.
Yeah.
Only one of the
colleagues at the art gallery
that Charlotte worked at last episode.
The one with the point
the really pointy black shouldered number.
This feels so pointed.
I mean,
I'm going to,
again,
use a conglomerate sort of character,
but all the hot guys,
the hot fellas,
RIP.
All the hot fellas.
Okay.
Lisa Todd Wexley.
Yeah. Naya. Yeah. okay lisa todd wexley yeah naya yeah surfer man yeah
and then honestly and like it you know With all the context of this episode
Of our podcast
This is instructive
But Herbert
Wow
And then
And then
Charlotte
Then Miranda
Then Carrie
Okay
Can you read the list back?
Absolutely.
So, this is the ranking of most to least likable characters
in And Just Like That.
Cast this in stone.
As told by Timbett after nine episodes of the second season.
Nine of 11.
Coincidence?
Yes.
Brady.
Brady.
Keep going.
Don't dwell on it.
Lily.
Rock.
Harry.
Elliot. Giuseppe
Kasabian
Shea Diaz
Aiden
Kathy
Seema
Judy
Shea Diaz is boss at the vet
the two interns from Miranda's work
the one colleague at the art gallery
with the pointy black shoulders
correct
all of the hot fellas guys
who are injecting themselves with growth hormones.
Yeah.
Lisa Todd Wexley,
Naya,
Surfer Man,
Herbert,
Charlotte,
Miranda,
Carrie.
Yep.
Feel good about it?
You got an issue with that?
I have no issues with that.
I will,
I,
hearing it back,
it makes even more sense
than as I was saying it aloud.
No misses?
Cast it in stone okay
makes perfect sense to me okay there it is there it is well what do you foresee for these characters
um we've got two episodes left we keep waiting for this aiden and carrie storyline to bubble
over it's like seeing a storm forming overhead and the um you know the met services told you
there's a weather bomb
coming and you're like fuck they don't get it right every time but that does look like it's
going to be bad yeah that's the storm cloud we're saying about this whole carry aiden thing it's so
loaded up they've really loaded it up i talked about the idea out loud during the episode today
that maybe aiden will die and they'll do it to Carrie again. It seems too much.
That would be too much.
I think they'd lose the fans if they did that.
They'd lose a lot of them.
I think, I mean, Carrie's umming and ahhing.
She looks at a big new apartment.
They get evicted from Shay's rental and then Aiden still can't go to the original apartment.
So Carrie starts looking at a big apartment, shows Aiden still can't go to the original apartment. Yeah. So Carrie starts looking at a big apartment,
shows Aiden.
Aiden's like,
well, this is kind of a you decision.
Fair.
And Carrie's like, okay.
And it feels to me like Aiden's not convinced.
It feels to me like Carrie is doing something for Aiden,
which he didn't ask for.
It's going to introduce a lot of tension.
We've only got two episodes to resolve this.
Do we think But then
Can we forecast
Yeah
End of this season
I like that we're staying with the weather metaphor
End of the season
Carrie and Aiden
Together or not
Well I just want to say
They do have that beautiful conversation
Where
She narks on Aiden's ex Kathy Yeah Kathy How could you call on Aiden's ex.
Cathy.
Yeah, Cathy.
How could you call her Aiden's ex
when you've got her as the ninth most likable character
in the entire universe?
Because her relationship to both Carrie and Aiden
is pertinent for what I'm about to say.
If I say Cathy, people might not be able to remember
all of the characters because there's a hundred people here.
Yeah, there's infinite.
It's because it's you and just like that.
There are no small players. There are it's you and just like that there are no small players
there are only
thousands of
and just like that characters
there should be a poster
like they used to do
those Simpsons posters
with all of the characters
yeah absolutely
that would be so good
fuck that'd be good
we should do it as merch
and we should be in there too
yeah but I can't draw
is the trouble with that
but if anyone wanted to do that
that'd be so cool.
Fuck, that'd be cool.
Okay.
Where was I going with that?
You were saying...
Oh, they have the beautiful conversation
where I don't know what triggers this
because Carrie says something Carrie-esque,
self-centered and self-absorbed.
And then Aidan's like,
yeah, you know what?
Maybe you will hurt me and I'll hurt you
and we'll get pissy
pissy at each other
but we'll work it out
because life is short
and we love each other
and that was cool
that was so nice
foreshadowing
that Aiden's about to die
well that's what I think
kinda
and when she got the phone call
she got a phone call
and it was from a Virginia number
and I was like
he's dead
but he wasn't
does Carrie go to Virginia
in this season?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Do we see that?
Here's ultimately
Huge arc
Like meta-analysis
Zoomed out
From space
We're on the ISS
Looking at the storm clouds forming
This is what I think we see
The final episode
Carrie's going to the big farm in Virginia
She's off
The show's killing her
She's gonna get put down
She is But we can't tell the kids Because it'll killing her she's gonna get put down she is
but we can't tell the kids
because it'll upset them
she's gonna get put down
so
for crimes against hats
you know
yeah
you know
there's a bad thing
happening with the like
increasing frequency
of hats you see
on Carrie's head
in the show
and we saw a few hats today
the hats
the hats
the hats of
Mattress Pike
with Morse code
When he's got the hats on
So we've got to look out for that
Because the hats have made a comeback
They put her out in the big farm in Virginia
With Aiden to live happily ever after
She throws the keys to the apartment
To the very beautiful
Young jewellery designer
Who lives underneath her Because she's about keys to the apartment to the very beautiful jewelry designer
who lives underneath her because she's about to inherit the apartment.
And guess what?
They're bringing back, not in Just Like That for a third season,
they're bringing back Sex and the City,
and they're calling it Sex and the City.
None of the gals are in it, and we're following the jewelry designer.
This is a new show.
That's what's happening.
It's not a bad pitch. It's what's happening. They're setting what's happening it's not a bad pitch it's what's
happening that's they're setting it up it's not a bad pitch to there's you know to confirm this
the litmus test will be how much screen time do we get from jewelry designer in episodes 10 and 11
honestly they have juiced they've milked surely Mattress, Michael and King. You're a madman, but even you must admit
that the fucking OG cast of Sex and the City,
you've juiced it dry.
There's nothing left to do.
Two movies?
This?
Twice?
We're done.
There's a world map with all of the characters' faces on them.
And like Carrie's, you know, got all of Russia and China
and Miranda got America and Charlotte got like Australia.
So they take up a lot of space, right?
And then all of the other sort of secondary characters,
they're in Europe,
they're strength advocates
and he just throws darts
and wherever they land,
he's like, that's who's getting the storyline.
Yeah, right.
This haphazard approach to storytelling
does not guarantee
that we will get the outcome We might deserve
Because he's not looking when he throws the darts
He's blindfolded
Yeah
But I think it's as good a guess as any
I mean I like it
I think it ends with Carrie and Aidan
I think on the precipice
I think
You still think they're going to leave that as a cliffhanger
Like an unresolved...
That's so unsatisfying.
Of course it is.
It makes you need another season.
And do you think we're going to see an ascension of Brady
now that he's picked a rat queen?
I fucking hope so.
The amount of side channels we've introduced for this franchise,
the amount of money-making opportunities
that are fucking stuffed inside of this podcast...
Take a couple.
Honestly, we've got so many... Hey, guess what, Matt many hey guess what mattress we got ideas too yeah a lot of them
yeah and we don't even play darts yeah piece of shit i would like the final episode of this series
episode 11 to be it's it's a wedding episode shows do this all the time this fucking franchise had a
whole movie where the first third was about it. Yeah.
Do the wedding.
Some of the best moments of my life were contained in that wedding.
And in some ways you could call it the red wedding because fiery redhead dons our rat king.
And he has selected a rat queen and a coronation is what we deserve. And a coronation is what we should get.
There's a lot of story to tell.
There's only two episodes left.
Can't wait to see what it is
oh
rating of this
episode
three
three stars
we didn't do a
shining light either
I got
I'm late for a
meeting but
I don't care
my shining light
was uh
Toby shows up
with a box full of kittens.
Shows like, you can't bring that here.
And then Judy, the boss, is like,
yeah, you got to take it to the animal shelter
in wherever it is.
Angelical cats.
Yes.
Yeah, nice.
My shining light was actually Toby's sling bag.
Yeah.
It's fucking cool.
There are some good bags out there.
Someone was watching videos of bags. Was that in this bag? Yeah. It's fucking cool. There are some good bags out there. Someone was watching videos of bags.
Was that in this show?
Yeah.
Bags.
There's like videos of bags on YouTube.
What the fuck was that?
Something just like that on YouTube.
All right.
Well, I'm giving it a two and a half stars.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye.
And just like that, it's the worst idea of all time
and just like that they're at it again and they're having such a gay old time and just like that
they're back got montgomery and timothy back and just like that it's the worst idea of all time