The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Forty Three - Magda
Episode Date: December 20, 2015This ep possible thanks to BIGPIPE.CO.NZ (and our gorgeous donators/merch buyers) features an all too overlooked character - Magda, the housekeeper. Is she a competing robot vying with Dickbot for d...omination? Is she a Russian spy? Miranda's importance to the Rat King arc is drawn out. Mr Big is splitting his focus between deadliest catch and a new idea: retractable, blendable knives in a pack the size of a deck of cards. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oh baby, oh mama, that was very nearly an absolute disaster.
Could have been pretty bad.
Hey dude.
Hey dude.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the worst idea of all time, episode number 43.
Three.
Three.
Is it?
Or four.
No, it's definitely not four.
Hey, who's tallying this?
But it is also episode in total number 100
Yeah
Go us
Well it's the 100th thing that we've released on the stream
On the feed
That's how you measure it though
Yeah
Isn't it?
That's how you tally it
So 100 deep
How about that? Doesn't feel you tally it. So 100 deep. How about that?
Doesn't feel that good.
No, it certainly doesn't.
I feel like I've been beaten into a bloody pulp mentally,
a bloody mental pulp.
I'm imagining a brain just like smashed on the concrete,
just bleeding out.
It's a pink mess with this blood just going to the drain.
Pretty dark, Tim.
That's how I feel at the moment.
It's bad.
I just couldn't the drain. Pretty dark, Tim. That's how I feel at the moment. It's bad. I just couldn't, each time I kind of came to and realised the movie was still going, I was just shocked because it felt like it was
about six hours today.
That was in real emotional terms.
That's how long the film took to run.
That's true.
At the very top of this episode, we should flag that we didn't pay the movie
the most attention. But not
in the regular, like normally when we've done that
in the past and we've had to penalise ourselves or whatever
we haven't been present. But we were, like
it was on and we were there and we were in front of it and we were
looking at it. I would argue
I would argue that it is scientifically
and I don't think this is just us, I think
it would be impossible for any person
to sit down and watch that movie
from start to finish and be completely
absorbed in the story and not have a
like, the whole way
I think it is
it's an impossibility
and one that we're confronted
with every week
I'm just going to have to hit pause real quick on this and say
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For them to
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it's an agreement I'm not
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it's like when fairies die and you've got to clap to bring
them back to life, it's that whole thing
when does that happen?
when does a fairy die? if you say that they're not real
if you say you don't believe in them
really? yeah. every time you say a fairy
isn't real one of them dies
you better bloody parky parky, mate.
And what happens if you clap?
Well, I think because the way that it's been depicted on film,
in particular, I'm referencing...
Hook.
Dustin Hoffman's Hook.
Robin Williams.
Was Julia Roberts Tinkerbell in that?
I think she was.
And she starts to fade when someone mentions that fairies aren't real.
And so when the fairy fades, that's when you clap and you bring them back to life.
It's kind of like a recess.
It's like the paddles, you know, the defibrillator.
The applause.
Yeah.
That's what it's like for fairies.
That is a biological fault.
That is absolutely...
I mean, you could destroy legions of fairies.
Yeah.
Just by chanting.
Do you know what it is?
Maybe fairies were around before us
and no animal had language.
They couldn't construct out loud the idea
that fairies might not be real.
And so they didn't have a natural predator.
In fact, if anything, they were impenetrable
because their applause would just empower them more.
Yeah, all animals could do was applaud, but they could never say,
fairies aren't real.
I feel like it's a metaphor for an argument as old as time,
which is what is more powerful between applause and chanting?
I mean, you know, I think it was in the book of Genesis,
the snake said, the person whom answers this question one
will have an always powerful tongue.
Did you say applause and cheering or applause and chanting?
Chanting.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with chanting, actually.
Why?
Because there's so much.
The human voice is more powerful than.
It's just, you know, when you're like, you get into that zone. into that zone the chanting zone yeah yeah the chanting zone to really tap into shit you get a little bit
when you're cheering for something but not as much it's a very primal thing yeah chanting isn't it
you really tap into the uh stuff the cat the it's always sunny in philadelphia crew very good at
chanting yeah and that's like the most primal that characters get really absolutely absolutely oh by the way this show um would like to remind you to watch
f is for family bill burr's new animated series on netflix no one paid us that's not a paid read
we just thought it would be a good idea to tell you because um bill burr's the shit and he's got
his own cartoon show now and we can say cartoon because guess what no one's
provided us with copy pointers because they're not paying us to say it so we'll call it whatever
we want if it's for family it's cartoon and a derogatory word to animators i think it is now
yeah that seems silly anyhow cartoons are for kids the thing with sex in the city too is as i
was saying we struggled to focus entirely throughout it and we had like i haven't
really seen tim for the week so it was sort of we we frankly to be honest with you dear listener
we took the first half hour of the movie as an opportunity to catch up um you know it was like
we were catching up at the table next to us uh the gals were also catching up uh and we were just
sitting in the cafe with them at a parallel table they were
nattering away that's right those are some pretty abrasive characters with not very interesting
lives it's probably best to just leave them be uh and then when eventually there was like a natural
lull or break in conversation and we turned back in the movie it was like barely any time they were
still at the wedding or something insane like that like
barely any time had passed and it sort of felt like it could have been going forever i feel like
we've been in this room for days yeah quite likely the way i feel at the moment it's so weird isn't
it so weird that a movie can make you feel like it's held you prisoner for as long as this one has been.
It's bloody madness.
So
I don't know what to say
about the film, really.
I want to express that Magda
probably hasn't had the
old worst idea treatment as much
as she's deserved through her
performances. She turns in
intuitive force week in, week out.
Now, Magda...
God bless her soul.
Just to remind you folks who haven't seen the film
over three dozen times,
she is the housemaid who works for Miranda and Steve
at the house, and very weird.
She gives the best barrelling the camera moment
at the Science Prize giving at Brady School. The only barrelling the camera moment at the Science Prize giving at Brady's school.
The only barrelling the camera moment
at the Prize giving at Brady's school.
Someone told me there's another one,
but I'm sure we would have seen it by now.
You'd think so,
although there's a lot of people on camera
at different points.
Yeah, but we've seen the movie so much.
At one point,
I thought Brady almost did it in the coffee shop.
He looked very close to camera,
but he was actually looking to his mum
because he was bored
nah but she was uh talking talking with the gals about maybe potentially going to abu dhabi
and she said yes actually in the end she said that she would go to abu dhabi and then
all of them all four of them so it was uh there's carrie samantha charlotte miranda all they all
go on holiday to abu dhabi and they fly in this wonderful jet plane.
It's beautiful.
It's lavish.
They pretty much sleep in office cubicles, but they've been sort of kitted out with gold trim,
sort of not paunchy, but soft-looking furniture.
And they get to Abu Dhabi, and it's different.
It's different from New York, but people everywhere are people.
People are the same, and they learn. They learn some lessons, and oh.
Don't give it up yet.
Yeah, and then eventually they get kicked out of the country
because Miranda, she went into a peep show
and she watched a man fuck a sheep.
No.
Yeah.
No.
And it was a sting operation set up by the coppers,
the bloody coppers, and they all got deported
because Miranda was periscoping it
and the girls were watching it by the pool.
Your mind's drifted.
It's not this one.
It's a different one.
No, I think the one I'm talking about is what I just watched.
I don't think it is.
Your brain's trying to create an escape for itself.
I feel when you talk, it feels like you're inflatable,
like you're an inflatable pool toy or something.
And when you talk, it's like the air is just being released.
Sort of like it looks, to look at you while you speak,
it looks physically drained.
Yeah, that's a fair summation.
Hey, but let's talk about Magda.
B, let's talk about magda baby let's talk about magda seriously my theory you want to hear it i'll give it to you magda was the first artificial intelligence bot or like android
off the assembly line ussr russian 68 uh it was sort of like a side source from the great space race
as they started putting a lot of time and money
into researching artificial intelligence and human models.
And they turned her on before she was ready
and she wandered off the plant and off the property
and got on a boat and moved to New York.
It's like Chappie.
And she wasn't really, I haven't seen Chappie, but she wasn't,
so I can't speak to the similarities or differences,
but she was programmed, obviously, to go in and infiltrate
and relay intel back to the USSR.
But she was set to, instead of being set to international,
which is for when you go off your own country to research different places,
she was set to domestic, and the domestic setting made her domesticated.
Oh, no.
So they really fiffed the code.
The whole thing.
Well, I mean, it was the first one.
It was a prototype.
It wasn't fit for the public.
So the AI that's running that
shell of a woman um misinterpreted what domestic meant instead of meaning like uh local intranational
it interpreted as being home-based tasks and chores vis-a-vis a very like it's a very simple
language oversight but you've got to remember this is 1968. They didn't have Google Translate.
She's just a two-bit, eight-bit Russian bot.
The English language was outlawed in the USSR, as we all know.
Now, I can't agree with you.
I don't think she's robot.
I think she's a spy from the USSR, from the old Soviet Union.
It's a regular old human being.
Yeah.
Something's happened to her.
What was her mission statement?
I think she was just out there like all the spies were
just to find out about the West
and where they're up to with everything.
Because you wouldn't build an android that looked that old.
Would you?
No, you would.
Why?
No one would suspect that.
Obviously, it would be pretty suspicious when the bot wasn't aging.
No, but okay.
No, because here it is.
She's growing like a human.
They just modeled the programming on a real-life human being.
So when she walked off the factory plant, she was a baby.
No.
69.
She was like a teenager.
Right.
69 to 2000, and when does this hit?
10.
So we're talking 41 years.
Wait, 51.
41.
41 years.
So 41 years, she's a teenager.
See, she looks too old.
Here's what I reckon.
She's only been 20.
So, if you were going to be a spy, right,
you would want access to high-level meetings and people.
And no one's going to invite an old woman to some, you know,
bureaucrat party where all the presidents are hanging out.
It's the swing in 60s.
You want your jfks
and stuff you want to look like a foxy early 20 year old you don't want an aging bot yes people
want conversation that's what people like but if the robot's not even smart enough to determine
that domestic means stay within the country rather than do a bunch of dishes you're dealing with a
lot of world leaders a lot of egos.
They just want a sounding board so that they can talk about themselves.
And that was what they wrote, and that's what...
You reckon that's what Magda's up to?
Well, it would have been, had it not been for the domestic snafu.
Didn't really make it along to a lot of those soirees.
There's a competing third theory about Magda,
and the evidence I bring to the fore is that
she insists that Miranda have some breakfast
before she goes out for the day.
And I reckon maybe the food's been tampered with slightly
and Magda's got advanced insider knowledge
of Brady's future.
And she is feeding Miranda with rat poison incrementally
to build up her tolerance for it.
Oh, so like she's working in conjunction with Brady
secretly from Miranda.
I don't know if she's on Brady's side.
I think there's some external force.
Wow.
And what is Miranda's value in this situation?
Why is she being...
I think Miranda is a hell of an asset
being the mother of the future Rat King
because she kind of knows his weaknesses and stuff.
So it's very important that she gets kept around.
So like if you were...
Crust left on.
Crust left on is a big Brady weakness.
Yeah, there you go.
So like if you were an actor in this war
and you wanted to take down Brady,
you would think probably the way to do it would be like a mass distribution of
rat poison because it's going to kill the rats instantly and try to get to
Brady that way.
But if you can kind of just like blanket the house with rat poison,
but you know,
Miranda's going to survive.
So just in case Brady survives,
you've still got this key intelligence asset on how to take him down later.
Yeah.
You know?
She's a very valuable asset.
I understand that.
So Brady is, in spite of his sort of maniacal plans for global domination,
he's also still vulnerable to the fact that he's an 8-year-old boy.
Yeah.
And he needs that support and sort of boost leg up from mum.
It's not even that the absence of a mother figure
would be the weakness itself.
It's that Miranda would know what the weaknesses are.
The crust of the issue.
Or the bread in this circumstance.
Good point.
It leaves Steve a bit up in the air as well in this diagram,
this Cold War, as to where he kind of slots in.
I think this is why it's so fascinating is that they're all working
across purposes, but, I mean, that house is just a hive of activity.
It really is.
I mean, you've got someone running for mayor while launching an interstate, you know, reformed spelling bee and packaging that and trying to get that sold to NBC for that 6.30 Tuesday slot, which has been a huge weak point in the NBC slate of shows, I think, since 1978 when they took off the original spelling bee, which was a bee that could spell.
Anyway, I mean, what I'm saying is there's a lot of action
happening in that part of New York City.
And it almost seems like, you know,
after that Lynyrd Skynyrd plane crash,
you shouldn't have that many people living in one place.
They have to fly on separate planes.
Although the fact that they're all doing their biddings in secret
means that...
Do you think the Lynyrd Skynyrd incident is, like, the first time that they're all doing their their biddings in secret means that do you think the leonard skinner incident is like the first time that they've figured out that you shouldn't put all
your eggs into one basket i've read the history books i know what i'm talking about like up until
then just they wasn't even a concept that was around no no one had thought about it that was
the first plane crash on record it's amazing because i Because I know nowadays, like, they never fly
the president
and the vice president
in the same plane.
And it's just incredible
to remember that
the reason why
is a bunch of rednecks
who wrote a couple,
well,
one good tune.
They wrote more than one good tune.
Free Bird's pretty good as well,
actually,
other than that.
Sweet Home Alabama is done.
Yeah, I know.
That's like,
that's a given.
Was that the good tune though?
Yeah.
It's not,
yeah.
Free Bird's bloody good too, though. It's difficult, because when it came out, I'll tell you what, I know. That's the, that's like, that's the given. Was that the good tune though? Yeah. It's not, yeah. Free Bird's bloody good too though.
It's difficult because when it came out, I'll tell you what, I reckon if I had been alive
when Sweet Home Alabama came out, fuck, I would have been getting down.
Oh, of course.
It's a bloody shame.
But now it's just, it has been just devastated.
I think the fact that the sample of it features in Werewolves of London, which I was in Grownups
2.
But wait a minute, which way around does that go?
Werewolves of London.
I feel like it's Sweet Home Alabama's got to be first.
You would think so, right?
You definitely think so.
First over the line.
Yeah.
The fact we, I don't know the name of the band
or artist who sings Werewolves of London speaks to that.
Because if that was the first one,
surely you'd know that artist.
Look.
You would hope we would.
A couple of boys doing anything they can to avoid talking about sex in the city too.
You've stumbled in on us.
There's Magda.
There she is.
We'll put her on the shelf.
She's done for a bit.
I had a shining light this week.
Trying to remember what it was.
The characters in these movies play things to be picked up and discussed and then put back.
Yes, they are.
What was My Shining Light?
I got you to write it down.
It was Big.
Oh, it's a look.
It was Big's acting.
A look from Big.
Pastor Chris North channeling his character of Mr. Big.
Yeah.
During the bedroom, what bit was that?
It's when they're having an argument and in the middle of it,
when there hasn't even been a resolution.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so the argument's really been ramping up between he and Carrie,
and Carrie's really given it to him verbally, saying, you know,
you're being a dick.
Stop being a dick.
And he just looks past, like, with minimal physical movement of his head,
just looks past her to get back to the eyeline of the TV.
And there's something sensationally brutal about that.
It's always funny when you can have a massive effect with very little output
and like he only used a few jewels just to move his neck muscles a tiny bit.
But what it said to Carrie is,
this conversation
is completely meaningless to me
and I just want to get back to Deadliest Catch.
I won't even entertain the fact that
you're angry with me with some sort of
placating response. I've just got to get
back to this enormous fish.
Did you not hear the teaser in the ads?
This is the most dangerous
situation they've been in in the seven
seasons of filming.
I can't miss this. I can definitely miss what you're
talking about because I'm sure this conversation is going
to happen again tomorrow as it did
yesterday and the day prior.
But right now, I just need to see this
catfish.
That's all I need to see.
And he communicates that solely with
just a bloody jerk of the head.
A minimal jerk of the head. Just for clarity, the motivation was exactly as Tim described it,
but the terms, some of them are a bit confusing now
as we record this in 2015.
Catfish was, of course, the actual species, catfish,
and not the internet trickery.
And the reason he had to watch it so urgently
is there weren't any good streaming platforms.
And so if he did miss that episode, he'd fall back on the...
Fish pun, love it. He'd fall back on the... Fish pun, love it.
He'd fall back on the...
He'd be one short in the canon of Deadliest Catch episodes.
And you just couldn't take that chance back in the day
because Netflix wasn't around.
So if you missed an episode of Toweling,
you didn't have your DVR set, you were fucked.
There's no way to get back up on involved with it.
Yeah, you've gravitated that moment a few times.
I would put it to you that Pastor Chris Noweth is a,
he's like, he's just a very direct guy.
And accordingly, I think he misses a few social cues
because he's a TV addict when he's trying to talk himself out
of having to go to the movie premiere with Carrie, she says, no, what happens?
He doesn't want to go to the movie premiere,
and then she's like, okay, I'll go with Stanford.
And then he just immediately picks up the remote and turns the TV on.
It's like, that's just so antagonistic.
You know you're going to get called up on that.
All he needed to do to be smooth sailing on that was wait about a second
and a half before picking up the right control.
He goes to the movie premiere.
I mean, they start having these huge relationship problems,
which just keep servicing week after week.
In fact, we've plotted it today perfectly.
The moment at which the movie goes from being just a bad movie
to actually unbearable to be in a room with is when it's the anniversary dinner
between Big and Carrie.
Yeah, because up until then you've been hit with
you've got a big gay wedding,
we've got a lot of people dressed up,
we've got a lot of colour,
we've got a lot of life,
we've got Liza Minnelli,
we've got songs and dances
and people making gay jokes.
For whatever it's worth,
at least that kind of keeps you engaged with the film.
And then, but you go back to New York
and it's all sort of just fun character stuff.
I mean, Charlotte takes charge of her, charlotte sorry miranda takes charge of
her career charlotte's a little bit worried about the nanny uh and samantha's just being samantha
creaming it fuck she's good and charlotte really fucked me off this week her response to um the
nanny's buzzies getting uh whetted while she was in a white top By her kid Because there's the scene
Where Runkle's
Bathing the baby
With the nanny
Which
You know
I never really thought about it before
But that's kind of a weird
Slightly weird scenario
I guess Charlotte had shit to do
That happens
So Runkle's in there
With the nanny
Cupcakes to make
Yeah
Gotta make them cupcakes
And
Yeah
Her top gets
Wet
And they all have a giggle about it
And the baby's loving it
Rose?
Rosa
You keep saying Rosa
It's just Rose
Because they're both flowers
Rose and Lily
Rosa
So Rosa's giggling
Runkle's laughing
The nanny is also giggling away
And Charlotte just appears in the doorway
And sees the scene unfold
And looks fucking horrified
It's this sort of terrifying and terrified spectre?
This puritanical, ethereal being
who just appears at the doorway,
gets outraged and then fucks off
and then harbours that resentment
for the whole rest of the movie
as some sort of half-attempted a C-plot
designed to keep us in our seats.
Look, what I'm saying is
the movie until the anniversary dinner is,
it's not good, but it's watchable and it's not grating to be around.
But then it's when they start dealing with,
like when they introduce conflict, like real central conflict to the movie,
it just becomes so grating because none of the conflict is meaningful.
It's just all trivial, bougie, bloody,
live in La Vida Loca in New York City crap.
It's dumb stuff.
It's dumb, unrelatable stuff.
It's nice to know that to have finally figured out the moment
where it goes from just a bad thing to be doing
to just literally unwatchable, scientifically unwatchable.
What would I like to do at this juncture...
University of New South Wales 2008,
before the movie was released.
Is I'd just like to read out,
as a shout out,
some people who've donated money to ourselves.
I was going to say cause.
I can't use that kind of grandiose language
with what we're doing.
But if you go to westideerofalltime.com
and you click on the merch button
or you just go
westidearofalltime.com
slash merch,
it'll take you to a page
where up the top
there's a PayPal button
where you can just flick us a dollar
or however many dollars you want.
Some people flick this $50,
which I find outrageous
and very heartening.
So thank you so much.
And you can also buy merchandise there
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could also buy the joined by fan by fan favourite Tyrone Wishbone.
Fishbone.
Wishbone.
If you like the name so much, you should know it.
And the poster of the Grown Ups 2 drinking game rules.
It's all there.
It's all there.
So the donations that have come through, firstly from Patrick Sessions,
who added a note saying,
think of this as recompense for pain and suffering
for my continued entertainment.
Thank you, Patrick.
This episode certainly serves as a testament to that, I think,
because it sucked.
This is a fine conversation.
No, sorry, I mean the watch.
Precocious young minds.
I just mean the watch of it.
I don't mean the episode.
Chill out.
Kyle McKenzie says,
Tim and Guy, thank you so much for the hours of entertainment you've provided.
You have no idea how big a part of my life the podcast has become.
Kyle, truly, thank you.
You have no idea how big a part of that message of support you've become.
We've printed that out in A0, and it's up on the walls here.
It's huge.
It takes up the entire here. It's huge. It takes up the entire studio.
It's massive.
Carol, now, the pronunciation of her surname, it's thrown me.
Just have a God's honest go of it.
Andredses.
Andredses.
No message there, but thank you so much, Carol,
for flicking some money our way.
Lily Reid has said,
To my boys, Tim and Guy, I don't know what to say.
I'm drunken alone on a Friday night.
I'm listening to Warren and Stevenson
and crying my eyes out from laughter.
The last six months have been shitty for me,
but your ridiculous podcast has been a small shining light.
I know you'll be happy when you finish,
but I'll be a little sad.
You inspire me to live every moment, love every day, Merry Christmas
thank you Lily
wow Lily
that was a touching message
don't let my soberingly
mono
what's the adjective for monotone
syllabic
no what's the
how do you make monotone
monotonous
don't let the lack of emotion in my voice fool you Lily No, how do you make monotone? Monotonous. It is, yeah.
Don't let the lack of emotion in my voice fool you, Lily.
That's a dope fucking message, and thank you.
Tim's straight up welling from every pore right now.
The boy is crying and sweating up a storm.
He is sodden.
And lastly.
It looks like he's walked in from the ocean.
Catherine S. Maslin.
He's got gills and fins.
The boy is a fish.
I can't tell you what to do with my donation,
but Tim, maybe you'll put this towards the credit card bill situation you mentioned on the show.
My bad.
Wear your heart on your sleeve.
It continues.
I worry about you.
Anyway, do whatever you want.
Thanks for everything.
You guys are the best.
You're the best, Catherine.
I think that's a great message.
Thank you to all of those people.
And anyone who's bought the merch, please, when you get it,
let us know either through Twitter or the Facebook.
Yeah, someone sent us a photo.
And it looks fucking awesome.
It's very exciting and novel for us.
The t-shirts look so cool.
And we give the artists who came up with the designs
20% of whatever we make as well, because it seems fair.
It's hard to say.
I think that's fair.
I don't know what the cut-up should be,
but 20% seems in the mix.
Look, we're not here to talk business.
Well, we are here to talk business, actually.
We're here to talk about a pretty big business idea.
It's been propositioned in a leather-bound book.
Dusty, covered in cobwebs because it's still got its Halloween decorations
left on it.
Found in a sort of a fishbowl without any sort of keyboards or mouse.
No touchscreens.
It's Mr. Big's big book of ideas.
Whoa.
I'm sorry.
Why did you feel the need to point out that there,
why have you got a measuring tape that you're just mucking around with too?
People are going to be wondering what that weird noise is.
Too many questions from you, not enough ideas.
Well, I just want to know, like, why do you have to specify...
The noise is the spirit of Brady.
When is a fishbowl accompanied generally by a keyboard and mouse?
An office.
Correct.
Nice, you nailed it.
Now, let's talk about the measuring tape.
Stop playing with it,
because it's odd.
It's freaking me out.
It's coming very close to my face.
You once just played with a knife
for a whole episode,
and you're telling me I can't toy around with a tape measure?
Another fine point, Mr. Montgomery.
Point conceded.
You're fucking with the best boy.
Now tell me, for the love of god what mr big is
plotting it's a business idea as you said and it's a beautiful business idea which involves
the same technology that's used for retractable measuring tapes but applied to knives so you can
hide a bunch of knives inside of something that's essentially the size of a deck of cards
semi-flexible materials, the metal
that the daggers are made out of
but very, very sharp, very hard to
dull. So these are not like novelty
those magic knives which look... There's nothing novelty
about this
retractable knife device
not at all. And it's not
so you see how tape measure works where it's
one continuous item, it's like multiple knives instead. So you see how tape measure works Where it's one continuous item
It's like multiple knives instead
So you take them all out
You can put them all back in
But if you take them all out
From something that's about the size of a deck of cards
You get two dozen knives
Two dozen flexible metal knives
Very sharp
Card sized
Sounds like a pretty
Is it impressive
what they've built here
it's like unlikely
it's pretty
it's a pretty
pretty
it's a feat of engineering
sure is
it's a premium product
I mean the
we've seen the price plans
and they are through the roof
it's a subscription service too
it's a
you gotta sign up
to be involved
you can't just buy it
yeah
you gotta be in the program
because they provide you with training yeah You've got to be in the program because they provide you with training.
Yeah.
And certification.
And to get in the program, first of all, what will happen is you'll be given
several sets of the knives to then sell.
And for every set of knives you sell, you'll get a percentage of the –
it's a fair business.
20%, I think that's fair.
Yeah, so what we've kind of 20%, I think that's fair.
Yeah, so what we've kind of recommended to people is that they get friends and family on board first.
Yeah.
Sort of throw some knife parties, which are always fun.
And just really, yeah, try and pique people's interest with that.
Let them see the device, touch the device,
muck around with the knives a bit.
And you say, look, we've got a package we can start you off.
$5,000 is the only outlay
we're looking for
at the initial
and then you're a small business owner.
Guess what?
Welcome to the club.
Club entrepreneurship.
That's right.
So,
it's frankly,
of all of the business propositions
he's written in that crazy book of his,
one of the strongest.
I, for one,
am very excited to be involved.
You know,
I've made,
and this isn't even a paid for testimonial.
This is just me talking here.
This is like the F for family plug.
I mean, in the last two weeks from selling these knives,
I've made over $6,000.
$6,000?
Just on commission.
That's huge.
That's huge.
So come on callers, join the knife party.
Yeah.
And get on board.
Yeah, if you are interested, send us an email at bigsnivesarebig,
just kidding, they're little, at knives.com.
I guess that's, sorry, I think I stumbled over my scoop.
You got something in your throat.
Something.
Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop. Scoop got something in your throat. There's something. Scooby-doo-boo.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
She's got a car.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
Scooby-doo-boo-boo.
She's got a car.
He's got a car.
Well, he bit all the he-dogs and looked at all the she-dogs
and the crowd never knew such a hullabaloo What's he doing?
What is he doing again?
That's the question
We ask it every week
We've still yet to definitively find out the answer
But we'll keep looking
Till the day we cark it at the hands of Mr Big's Knives
Is there an answer?
Or does he just represent a parallel universe with each watch?
I mean, the thing about Coffee Guy is that he represents the best and worst in all of us.
So he's sort of like just pure potential.
That's the thing.
He's a blank canvas that we project ourselves onto.
And the only thing that we know about humanity is that it loves coffee doesn't matter we are from lava to java and our native new zealand to uh kenya
we all remember the chicago the famous greg's coffee campaign with Borat love it the job
I don't remember that
really did he do a campaign for instant coffee
yeah
Christ on a stick
I'm lying
I am lying
I'll put down the tape measure I only lie when I'm holding it
there you go we're good now
he's got it back he's picked it up first
it's back down
sorry to cut you off there There you go. We're good now. He's got it back. He's picked it up for us. It's back down.
Sorry to cut you off there.
All I was saying is that much like,
have you seen all of the Matrix movies?
No, because I'm not an idiot.
Yep, valid.
So in the second one, I think, it's kind of explained with the Oracle.
I think it must be the third one.
No, it's the second one, I think.
That kind of explained with the oracle i think it must be the third one no it's the second one i think that um kind of what neo is is the matrix trying to balance itself out he is the other half of an equation that's become imbalanced so it's kind of like his power is drawn from the fact
that the matrix is a little bit broken right so it's kind of that's what coffee guy is essentially
he's like the one he's like neo he's this pure humanized potential
this kind of energy being who can make anything happen at will similar to dr manhattan from the
watchman that actually makes um excellent sense because uh mr coffee guy, Tom Stoddard. You looked up the guy who portrays him.
Yeah, I was cruising through his IMDB page late at night,
down IMDB Boulevard, tooting my horn, flashing my lights,
trying to get him open the door, but he wouldn't.
He has so many uncredited roles in all sorts of great programs.
Namely, I'm pretty confident he has like six different uncredited roles
in Boardwalk Empire, all of them for different, like.
It's the Buscemi connection, isn't it?
It's that, and it's also, you know, he's just.
Isn't that incredible because.
Populating all of these worlds.
We spent so long on the Steve Buscemi mystery mystery tour and i'd i'd hasten to add
that coffee guy has sort of become the version 2.0 of that experience and they are inextricably
linked through bulwark empire we didn't know that going through coffee well more through coffee guy
being neo yeah isn't it crazy how how it just all comes together, you know? Isn't life just a crazy journey?
Isn't life a wild horse?
A Brumby, if you will.
Standing by your bed, urinating in your mouth on a Saturday morning.
Tearing around the place, freaking out the kids.
Freaking out the dog, eating the dog food.
Running out on the front porch, scaring the fat postman.
Getting a bra stuck on its antlers.
That's right.
This horse has antlers.
And you're watching grown-ups too.
That's what life is sometimes.
Hey, I'm pretty happy to fucking put a pin in this little morsel of information.
I'd like to wish everyone a really Merry Christmas.
And there's something that we keep forgetting to bring up on the podcast,
and that is that we are involved in another podcast
with some very talented gentlemen from America.
It's also a holiday season tradition.
Yes, it is.
It's a Thanksgiving tradition, and it's called Till Death Do Us Blart.
It happens every American Thanksgiving from now until the end of linear time.
It is Guy Montgomery, myself, Tim Batt, Travis McElroy, Justin McElroy, Griffin McElroy of My Brother, My Brother and Me, the podcast, which you absolutely should be listening to.
And hordes of other podcasts as well.
Hordes of other podcasts as well So we get involved with those dudes
On Thanksgiving now
And we watch Paul Blatt, Mall Cop 2
And we record a little review of it
And it got featured in a top 10
Podcast episodes of the year
For the whole world
By Vulture
So cheers Vulture
Thank you Vulture
To the staff writer who's listening in right now
You can follow the
There's a Twitter at Deathblart,
but I don't know if we posted much stuff on there.
We should get some more stuff on there, eh?
Well, I mean, you know, 51 weeks of the year,
it's not a super active stream.
That's true.
Anyway, look, I would like to, just so you know,
if one of us dies, if one of the hosts dies,
then the other four remaining hosts have to find a replacement for that.
Well, how does that work? Because my understanding is that we, it's kind of our responsibility to find a replacement for that. Well, how does that work?
Because my understanding is that
it's kind of our responsibility to find a replacement.
Well, that's true actually.
I've had a close personal friend
ask it to be written into my will.
Really?
Well, I don't know if it...
Can you ask to be part of the Death Guard pact?
I think it's something that has to be bestowed on you.
Yeah, it is bestowed upon you.
But, you know...
It's like, hey, Queen, can I be a knight?
I respect the guy who asked.
He doesn't ask for much.
Okay.
He's sort of been saving up his favors, hoarding them.
Good on him.
I've got a guy in mind too who I think would be good.
Look, it's not important.
What's important is you have a very happy holidays.
Live every moment and love every day, friends.
And for the love of God, do not watch this movie ever in your life.
Yeah, we don't warn people enough on that because they go like,
people say to us, they say, hey, you warned us all the time
as grown-ups too to not watch the movie, but what do you think about this one?
Jesus Christ, I thought it went without saying.
I really thought it was assumed by this point in time.
There was once when I wanted you guys to watch it.
Yeah, and I retracted it in the very next episode.
Yeah.
So I couldn't make this move.
Oh, hey, that's another thing.
Fuck it.
I'll tag this on the end as well while we're here.
To the fucking troopers who are still running the TWIOAT subreddit,
I love you crazy assholes, and I'm delighted that you exist.
I drop in there every now and then, and it's just great.
What is it?
Is it just tumbleweed?
No,
they've like periodically,
it'll go a bit quiet and dry for a bit and then they'll pick up another
convo,
but there's,
it's essentially four people talking to themselves online on Reddit.
And I just fucking love that it exists.
So good on you guys.
Thank you very much.
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