The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Ten - 420Fuccboiz

Episode Date: July 4, 2016

SPONSORED BY BIGPIPE.CO.NZ - they're the internetOh boy, what a stinker. Bring on the drinks cause this episode is just a sad little convo between two sad little boys. Why are we all still here doing... this? It's unconscionable. The only way this would be any sadder is if you weren't here listening. ANYWAY.Guybo and Timbley Wimbley are back at again, praising Page  - everyone's favourite 2D character. The stars are engaged in a talent quest with backflips, whistling and cry-DJing. Mayor Steve from NYC makes a breif appearence. It's all a bit of a mess really. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are you going to play that dastardly intro again? Try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try You forget that films are supposed to have a point. Go. Welcome along to the Worst Idea of All Time, Episode 10. Tim Batt and Guy Montgomery have just watched We Are Your Friends for a record setting, at least in their books, 10th time. Hello, everybody. We are boys becoming men. We are acquaintances becoming friends.
Starting point is 00:00:50 We are in the pocket and ready to cook you up some thoughts. Here they are, all in a row. The movie's done. Do you know what the thing is about the watch this week could have had more could have had less just didn't really care about anything anymore i was watching it i was like i i don't give a shit like give me another hour of this or end it an hour ago like fucking whatever just real nihilistic yeah sort of comfortably numb yeah That could have gone on for another, like two hours, and you just would have been like, this, of course.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah, okay. Of course this. Now this. Sure. Just accepting it, you know? Just taking it. How's that going for you? Well, it's better than getting frustrated, I think.
Starting point is 00:01:42 There's less energy expended, and you just don't get as upset. It's just like, I imagine it's what being on lithium is like. This movie is like lithium? It was just this watch this week. It's just like, ugh, I'm fine. What's lithium used for? Like intense depression. It's like a mood stabilizer in very extreme wow I'm probably being a little melodramatic
Starting point is 00:02:08 about the effect of the film this week in retrospect why don't you make me explain myself like that oh that was an accident well sure guys if I've got to justify things I say they do sound ridiculous I was just curious as to what lithium does I didn't know you said it was like lithium.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I think... I'm not sure I've known anyone who used lithium. It's depicted quite well, I think, in the second season of House of Cards. That woman that Claire Underwood's trying to get to testify. I haven't seen any of that. It's a good show. That's what the people say.
Starting point is 00:02:43 People are telling me all sorts of stuff is good, and I just don't have time. I know. Well, you do, but it's just like, at this point, it's like, oh, fuck it all. Throw it on the massive flaming pile of shit you like that I haven't seen yet. Hey, I've got a question,
Starting point is 00:02:57 which I shouldn't ask you on the podcast, but I'm going to forget to ask you later. And this is going to turn into a nice shout-out. Where did you watch paul f tompkins latest special on because i looked on netflix it wasn't there i watched it on a legal it's easy did you easy to find in new zealand i definitely watched it legally oh no guy oh yeah this is why i don't ask you these yeah this is why exactly why anyway it was good it was good to pay him for what was a very good professional service yeah that what that joke
Starting point is 00:03:31 that you showed me though that's on uh youtube because i was able to show someone else that that great dad joke we don't need to get into it anyway watch that special um so we are your friends there we were back again two plucky young gents just trying to round off a third and final season of a podcast that potentially has already been going on too long um and and there we were for another week just us glued to a screen uh during the watch this week we had musical accompaniment at at times on the bongo drums, which we shared between us. We passed it back and forward.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I had a harmonica mouth organ for a bit, so just blowing on that, hoping for a note. And there was a bit of riffing, bit of scatting, bit of freestyle rapping in the middle of it when we got really bored.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It was all kind of plot-driven freestyle scatting though yeah it was it was commentary on what was unfolding on screen we were singing what we what we felt or what we wanted to see happen yeah and what it turns out we wanted to see happen this week unsurprisingly just different offers from the performers uh i feel like they're really trapped in their ways now and uh it hasn't been working for a while So I don't know what makes them think It's suddenly going to come right now Real stick in the mud
Starting point is 00:04:48 Yeah preferably maybe Or sticks in the mud Is it like attorneys general? Stick is always plural Stick is plural and singular Yeah anyway Nightmare Yeah just different offers like maybe stuff going wrong
Starting point is 00:05:08 more maybe more stuff going wrong you thought there was or there needs to be uh there needed to be yeah yeah just people reacting to stuff differently yeah what we uh targeted onto really locked onto very early into the film is that page undeniably our favorite character. And I think that will be the case for quite some time. If not ad infinitum for the duration of the season, he brings a lot to the table, a lot of baggage. He's sort of,
Starting point is 00:05:37 he's just an immediately identifiable character. All he's what we were, I was saying, like, I think the reason why he's so lovable is because you get him instantly. He's a little bit two-dimensional, but you learn everything you need to know about a character, about him, within fucking 15 seconds of seeing the dude.
Starting point is 00:05:55 He fucks minerals. He likes fucking diamonds. That's how obsessed with money he is and getting rich. He cuts costs in the office by only using concrete. Yeah. But beyond that, he's just motivated by money. And he likes looking flashy. And he's older and therefore more interesting than like 423 or 4-year-old boys
Starting point is 00:06:16 who are just sort of like all... 420? Yeah, that's right. Who are just pretty much out there going down to the beach and smoking weed to talk about their problems. The 420 fuckboys. 420 fuckboys in a room vaping on weed pens. Good God.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It's disgusting. But it's a surefire hit at the cinema. Imagine if the movie was just that. You saw these four dudes riffing and scatting inside of a room. Getting baked. That sounds like a... For a web series yeah but this doesn't really sound like a movie either you know the actual movie that got made doesn't sound like a movie the four for one boy trying to become a dj three guys along for the ride one bright boy our man from high school musical Sokole trying to become a DJ in the
Starting point is 00:07:05 crazy, hedonistic, drug-fueled sexy world of Los Angeles, California You've just made it sound like a movie You've got the green light, absolutely Let's make this thing, I'm really excited to see how it comes out. Yeah, true, so am I You came up with a pretty funny nickname
Starting point is 00:07:21 and also good sort of observation towards the end of the film when you notice that the character of Ziccoli is known as the crying DJ. The crying DJ, yeah. Because he's, like at that party, which we'll get back into as well. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:43 That idea we had? About how to amp up a party oh yeah absolutely let's just bookmark that for a second but um when he's at that party he's having a good time he's he's he's just been hired by james reed from the feelers to play a weekend gig earn a bit of pocket money he's doing a little afternoon pool party and it's all going well and he's fucking rocks the D floor. He gets them. He gets them.
Starting point is 00:08:07 He absolutely gets them on the hook. The party is going ballistic. And he's having a good time. Everyone's having fun. Until he sees James Reid get into it, rightly, with his girlfriend, Emily. Sophie? Sophie. What's her name?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Emily in real life. Oh, Emily's her actual name. Gotcha. And they're dancing all close, like you do when you're a couple. And he looks like he's going to fucking cry about it. It's like, jeez, man. Pull yourself together.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And then he kind of does it like a few times. There's another time as well that isn't just in the end, but there's another time when he looks fucking intense. Oh, it's when he's bloody wigging out at the music festival. He's not DJing. But when he pashes old Emily. He feels a lot of emotions. But he feels it all by looking like he's going to cry.
Starting point is 00:08:57 That's how he expresses any emotion. He does it at the end. But it is a pretty good gimmick to go around the club scene and be like, oh, fuck, I heard of that dude. He's the crying DJ. Yeah, it's really interesting. You're on uppers and you're dancing real hard to his music, but he's just crying.
Starting point is 00:09:13 He's supposed to be kind of like the whole instigator and leader of this good time, but he's the one crying the most. It's like he's sacrificing his happiness for us to dance. He's the club scene Jesus. There hasn't been a real party in downtown LA unless a DJ cries for the last year. It's emotional. It's human.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It's tribal. That's what Maximum Joseph and Zac Efron thought they were creating when they introduced Zicole, the crying DJ. Maximum Joseph was not sold initially on this idea either because he had written a whole damn movie with Oppenheimer that was based around a different character. And Ziccoli's like, you know what? A happier DJ.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I can cry pretty much at the drop of a hat. He's showing off his acting skills. And all of the 420 fuckboys get an opportunity to show off their acting skills in this film. You've got... Talent quest, guys. Johnny Depp can whistle. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:11 They use it to great effect twice. Have you seen the toilet? It's... And then Jarhead can do backflips, which they kind of stiff Jarhead across the board because they give him really uh ruthless cuts to make his character like an absolute fucking idiot like early in the movie when he's like uh you know 90 people want to be at the party 10 are the party you got to freaking be that and
Starting point is 00:10:34 then immediately the next he's like my body's 80 water and i'm thirsty it's like why is he obsessed with numbers is this russell crowe in a beautiful mind and the other thing he can do is backflips into a pool and so when he rents the house and they get the pool he's like backflip into the pool and then the next shot
Starting point is 00:10:48 it's like we're at the party and he's trying to impress some girls backflip into the pool it makes him look like such a weak he's just a two dimensional character
Starting point is 00:10:55 all he can do is backflip he's like those toy dogs that you press the back and a spring loaded mechanism fires and he does a backflip and lands on his legs all he can do is backflips
Starting point is 00:11:03 and then talk about exactly the number of backflips he's done I've done 300 backflip and lands on his legs. All he can do is backflips and then talk about exactly the number of backflips he's done. I've done 300 backflips and I've landed 200 of them. That's a success rate of 66%. You've got to be that. I've done 300 backflips and I've slipped a vertebrae
Starting point is 00:11:16 and I am in pain. What is Skrill bringing to the talent quest? He's a maths whiz. He's always talking about numbers he's talking about numbers when they're trying to render place in the booth he's talking about numbers when they're getting hired quick fucking math do fucking math good fucking math kid i'm page the only interesting character in this movie how we doing i'm loosely related to steve
Starting point is 00:11:40 former mayor of new york entrepreneur extraordinaire, made some dictionaries. Maybe you heard of him. Made a big name for himself in New York. He's not allowed in the California state right now on account of some of the underhanded shit he did. Got turfed out. Didn't like it. Didn't like it none.
Starting point is 00:11:58 There I was minding my own business, getting my rocks off on tour rock, if you know what I'm saying. I fuck diamonds. Yeah. He's obsessed with minerals concrete diamonds it's all he's about it's concrete and mineral tim no it's not really it's a compound of sort of minerals though a rock like just stones like rocks and stones gravel that's that's a mineral isn't it everything if every if i've learned one thing About the format of 20 questions It's that everything Is a vegetable or an animal
Starting point is 00:12:29 Or a mineral And between those three things Stones and rocks and concrete Definitely mineral I see, so there's three types of things In this world There's three things in the world I believe in Animals, minerals, vegetables everything else is
Starting point is 00:12:46 an abstract constructive human mind one i fuck one i eat and one i make friends with and it's not the order you think oh that's good stuff like fuck marry kill but he's kind of got it all confused so we've got the colleague the crying dj and the other thing that occurred at the pool party when he's earning a bit of pocket money to get out of the goddamn San Fernando Valley and stop eating so much raw, poisoned fish. That's why these boys' fingers are getting webbed. They're not eating healthy fish, all right?
Starting point is 00:13:17 The boys' fingers are getting webbed? Yeah, absolutely. Dang. Missed that. Yeah, you've got to look closely. All of them are getting slightly, as the movie goes on, they get like
Starting point is 00:13:25 slightly webbed fingers I don't know why but I trust you're completely right about Jarhead having webbed hands
Starting point is 00:13:32 I feel like I've seen that in the back of my head but not as a coalhead he's perfect he's a perfect human specimen no they start getting webbed fingers
Starting point is 00:13:40 and they start getting scales on their fingertips it's weird stuff but that's an all-in aside to what i'm trying to get to well hold on because generally poison fish doesn't turn you into a fish it's like teenage mutant ninja turtle style or spider-man style exactly radioactive fish from uh fukushima no they don't import their fish on the west coast of California, do they?
Starting point is 00:14:08 No, but it's all that shared Pacific Ocean with the Japanese reactor. The nuclear leaks finally reached the Pacific Ocean. Yeah, dog. On the Californian coastline. And now we've got to deal with 420 fuckboys turning into fish all of a sudden. Only in the San Fernando Valley,
Starting point is 00:14:23 which is why they think it's the best sushi in the western hemisphere and everyone else is like no one goes to eat sushi in the valley that stuff's poisonous it'll fucking ruin you and they're like the same guy is like hey this heroin it's the best stuff it's so yum yeah it's delicious heroin's right everyone's like you guys your entire suburb is turning into fish people and you keep eating so much sushi anyway that is all an aside to the point I'm trying to get to which is at the party
Starting point is 00:14:53 when Emily or Sophie sorry we've got to come up with a name for her we're sort of straddling between the two options and it's a disaster zone when Somaly comes up to Zach and is like
Starting point is 00:15:09 this party's looking a little stiff Cole and Cole looks around and he's like what are you telling me? I need to amp it up and she never confirms it, he just takes that idea and puts it upon himself she pouts that's her default setting and so he's like
Starting point is 00:15:25 You'd say I need to amp it up Question unanswered He doesn't give an opportunity For that question to be answered Because he just brings out something So massive So unspeakably huge That you cannot argue with the fact
Starting point is 00:15:37 That this categorically Amps up the party What does he bring out Tim? He brings out A chainsaw and a hockey mask. A la Halloween, I think. Oh, no, yeah, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And he raves the chainsaw.
Starting point is 00:15:54 This is a lovely afternoon's party. Yeah, and it's not an electric one. It's a proper petrol one from days of old. It's got the big old ripcord and you've got to get it started. And he's just totally, he's totally lost perspective on how weird this is and how jarring this would be for everyone else at the party. And he starts quoting Job from Arrested Development,
Starting point is 00:16:14 running up to them with the chainsaw going, everybody dance, everybody dance now. And someone's like, dude, I think you should put down the chainsaw. And he's like, oh, oh, okay. Oh, the guy with the chainsaw is going to listen to the guy who doesn't have a chainsaw. Yeah, yeah. And then Emily. Come on!
Starting point is 00:16:30 Somaly is like, uh, Zicoli, that's not what I meant when I said to amp up the party. And he's like, oh, so suddenly this is too much for you, is it? And then you know what happens after that? He starts fucking crying as his goddamn trademark at the decks and everyone's happy for it because uh the crying dj's here all of a sudden like before it was some crazy murderous dude and now like some soulful teary dj it's an extension of his crying dj persona where he also hires out different improvisational characters yeah so you get the crying dj and you also get one mystery character who he breaks out
Starting point is 00:17:06 into in the middle of his DJing set. And to be fair, he did amp up that party. Mission accomplished. You can't argue with facts. It did fuck the energy completely. There's a lot of uncomfortable people. That's what he's all about as a DJ. It's the push and pull.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's about locking onto people's heart rate With getting a song That's 128 BPM And then amping that shit up Add a chainsaw to the mix, have a cry Jizz on them, whatever It's an emotional clusterfuck
Starting point is 00:17:35 He's legally safeguarded himself Because on his website he advertises his DJing skills As unforgettable And I mean you can argue with whether or not People enjoy it but no one soon forgets the experience you have when you get to coley the crying dj yeah at your at your party fuck yeah good shit i'd hire him just to laugh at him but yeah i guess the thing is the only way to escalate it because if everyone knows that he's not going to do anything that's actually going
Starting point is 00:18:03 to fuck with you it's kind of like oh well it's obviously scary but it's not terrifying because you know he's not going to touch you so the only logical answer is he has to start like you know taking fingers and stuff what do you mean like actually taking them off chainsawing fingers off yeah like every one every 10 parties nah. I don't reckon that's what's up. You know how... It's like if you go to those like nightmare maze things where the spookers, where they hire, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:32 struggling actors to dress up like scarecrows and freak you out. But there's like rules. Have you been there? No, I haven't. I've heard mixed things about those. I've heard that some of the actors are like, they go too far.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I could believe that. If you were doing that are like they go too far i could believe that if you were doing that you'd i'd go too far would you you're like if i'm trying to freak people out i'd be like i'm gonna do what i can to freak these these people paid for an experience i'm gonna give them experience someone might be a big hollywood producer they might hire me for my work at spookers but i guess the one parameter is working the haunted house at universal studios you know i put my head down and work hard enough. I could work my way up this thing. That's how Matt Damon got his first gig.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Is it? He was a dressed-up scarecrow, and he went too far. But luckily, the person who was in there who he was touching up was Jerry Brockheimer. Started hiring him for shit. Is that what you mean when you say they've gone too far? They start grabbing the... I think that's you mean when you say they've gone too far they start grabbing the
Starting point is 00:19:25 I think that's the only way you can go too far well there's a couple of things you probably could scream at them I was thinking more
Starting point is 00:19:31 psychologically well psychological is all good but if you just start yelling like racial abuse or something that's not in the
Starting point is 00:19:39 that's not in the handbook that's not in the spirit of it you're not going to impress any big Hollywood producers with your bigoted world views that's not scary either itbook. That's not in the spirit of it. You're not going to impress any big Hollywood producers with your bigoted world views.
Starting point is 00:19:45 That's not scary either. It's just hateful. But it's kind of an interesting wrinkle to throw into one of those Halloween-style things. Just blind fury. Just like, what the fuck, man? What is this guy doing? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:20:03 You can't be offended. I'm haunted by it I'm haunted but anyway I think the big sort of no go zone is touching people you know I just think I just think no matter how scary you want to be
Starting point is 00:20:18 in one of those environments I think the key rule is don't touch anyone and that's from what I've heard from mates where people go too far when they actually start grabbing people and it's like no no no no you're not allowed to do that well of course you're not yeah but they do because they go too far is that why you haven't been to spookers no it's not because you're a little chicken i just don't like um anyone in this family even seen a chicken um i don't even i don't know oh come on i don't even have a massive desire to go to theme parks just in general you know do you like roller coasters
Starting point is 00:20:58 yeah i haven't been on that many you don't love it on a few i i don't know i used to like them they're fun man are they though yes i guess so i guess they are i told you about when i briefly developed a fear of flying eh no i went to the royal sydney easter show which is like the um amp show or for our american listeners it's like a it's like a county fair nailed it that is what it's like so um i went there with my mate nick and we've been on one of these rides that's like a whole bunch of kind of octopus arms out from a central pole and they've got a couple of points of articulation so it's kind of like a hand with like a wrist if you think about it like that and there's about 10 or so of them and then at the end of it is a harness um a similar kind that you get on a roller coaster where it just
Starting point is 00:21:49 comes down over your shoulders and locks you in right but your legs are free there's no chair so they they strap you into this thing and then they like press the button and it just throws you round and round and round but it like, this thing was fucking terrifying because it can do all this crazy shit because everyone's roughly the same size as a human where it will get your harness and move the arm in a particular way where it starts throwing you at the ground.
Starting point is 00:22:19 So you see the ground coming at you at a really fast velocity and then pull out at the very last moment and the whole time because your legs are just wiggling around you feel like you're gonna hit the central pole when you're like screwing around anyway i went with my mate nick who was a he's a tough dude like the guy decided to buy a whole bunch of really expensive camping gear so he could just go bush for like three months by himself i bought him a hunting knife for his birthday once he used to be in the army briefly you know he's a tough biscuit and he was like you know that hysterical kind of laugh screaming you do when you think you're legit gonna die he was doing that and we got off the ride and we were very shaken both of us and then the next thing we went on was a um like a ferris
Starting point is 00:23:03 wheel like a slow moving like the eye like the Eye of London kind of thing, but way smaller, obviously. And on that, I was wigging out. That's supposed to be a nice little ride that we went on to kind of just be like, okay, time to chill out. We were on that wheel. I was like, fuck this. We are so high off the ground.
Starting point is 00:23:18 This would have been cool 20 minutes ago, and I can't handle it. And for about two years after that, I got real nervous flying. And only recently it sort of left me. I'm glad you't handle it. And for about two years after that, I got real nervous flying. And only recently it sort of left me. I'm glad you overcame it. It's a terrible thing, a fear of flying. It's no good.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But you've got to appreciate I found that highly comical. That reminds me also of a time my friend Oscar and I, it's a similar story but different. We went to the A&P show in Christchurch which is the same county fair sort of thing and we went on a ride
Starting point is 00:23:50 called the Gravitron which is this like it looks like a you know stereotypical space ship
Starting point is 00:23:57 oh fuck I know this one and it spins you around really fast to the point that you can sort of flip like you can move around the centripetal force
Starting point is 00:24:04 pins you to the wall yeah and we were on it uh and we were both sort of pinned and upside down or whatever i was upside down and oscar was facing up and he wasn't really enjoying it poor bugger so this this experience is done for some people and he's uh he's up against the wall and he's lying against it and he's not really having a very good time and then this metal bar that's loose on the metal unit or console comes flying off and hits him on the head.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Oh my god, are you serious? Holy shit! And he throws up across his own body. Oh my god! So he's bent against the wall with vomit on his shirt. Having just been duped in the head. So he's freaked out in the ride, then gets duped on the head, then vomits on himself.
Starting point is 00:24:55 That is brutal. Oh, you poor boy. Oscar, you poor boy. The shirt he was wearing was a brand new Shirt By Rusty A very popular surf brand It had dragons on it And he'd been bragging about it The whole morning
Starting point is 00:25:10 This can't be the Oscar I know This is exactly The same Oscar you know Boy he's come along In his life Yeah Good on him Fuck
Starting point is 00:25:15 Shit man How proper did he get Diffed by that bar Like Not concussed Cause that's the kind of If that happened in America There's like a multi
Starting point is 00:25:23 Multi We were like 11 We were like whoa what a crazy ride and then we got candy yeah just another wrinkle in the day oh god i forgot about that that was funny fucking hell um so anyway back to the film there was a bit that you said at the time back to the film. There was a bit that you said at the time. Back to the film, my darling. Remember this bit because this is going to be my no but today, which is the bit in the podcast where we guess where in the movie they improvised a scene.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And there's many of them. Did you remember the one that you were thinking of or is that gone? That's gone until I see it again. But when when you see it it's unmistakable yeah but the one i did find uh is when zicole finally he's he goes for a big run he gets lost he finds way back home he makes a track about his experience of getting lost while going for a run in your neighborhood he tells james reed from the feelers about it james reed says all right you're back on and then he goes and he tells jarhead who sort of just resigned himself to working on his parents house yeah like that's his life he's working on a bit of four by two yeah sam and zikali walks up to him and says i'm playing summerfest
Starting point is 00:26:40 and then steps back and he's like okay this is great this is the opening of an improvisation between me and Jarhead wherein we can talk about what this means for us as characters in the movie and he goes I'm playing this
Starting point is 00:26:52 and he takes a step back and there's like a second silence and then two seconds silence and you can see in Zicoli's eyes he's devastated that this improvisational scene
Starting point is 00:27:00 is not he's letting it hang yeah this offer has not been accepted yeah and then eventually Jarhead says that's great not he's letting it hang this yeah this offer has not been accepted yeah and then eventually jahid says that's great man i was like congratulations and then they both just stand around and they're like saying yeah i can understand why maximum joseph would make the decision to impro that scene as well because these boys as we all know like every other hollywood
Starting point is 00:27:21 film this film has been shot chronologically this comes near the end always these guys are very familiar with their characters and he's like you know what i know my limitations as a writer i think i've given you enough to enough clay to work with here i want you to mold the scene and i will breathe life into it by filming the thing go and fucking zikoli gets in there hard and fast with a good old offer and Jarhead blocks it it's devastating yeah it's sad
Starting point is 00:27:52 not all of these improvised scenes are going to work not everything can be an acapella version of Santa Ria by the pool that's right, not everything can be a shared breakfast of room service after you banged all night on the hotel bed or so we led to believe i mean we never actually see it happening there's a that scene really sticks out because there's a lot of this film where actually
Starting point is 00:28:16 to the editor's credit a lot kind of gets done in a short amount of time in terms of communicating what the fuck is up especially the opening of this film it's like boom boom pacey that scene lasts for like 30 seconds of screen time or something and it's just you get you get literally nothing from it they you don't get further plot development you don't get any additional character no but they kind of undo they need it they need it because it's like it because it's an emotional handle that they can hang. It's meant to be an emotional key point for the movie because there's nothing else happening. It's like the fact that these two people care about each other.
Starting point is 00:28:57 We don't know what it means, but let's just sit in it for as long as possible because it means we don't have to worry about all the other scenes not making perfect emotional sense. What Maximum Joseph has done is he has rented a copy of Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet starring Claire Danes and Leonardo DiCaprio.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And he's mirrored that scene where, I think it's when they first meet and they're kind of like playing little games across the aquarium, you know, while that beautiful song's playing. I've only seen the trailer, but I know what you're talking about you still know the you know the shot this the the scene the sequence um and he's just trying to emulate that and that bit where they're like running all over town and then booking into a hotel set to that dance track that's all
Starting point is 00:29:40 fucking talking about love and stuff you don't like that's a fine capable whatever job of of creating some emotion simply by relying on the music to do all the heavy lifting and then just shooting a bunch of bullshit like a music video you don't then need to lay on top of that this fucking unaccounted see this is the thing, you take away music at any point in this movie and the scene fucking falls apart that bit is just like this not underwritten but not written at all improvised bullshit
Starting point is 00:30:13 scene where you actually not only add to the film but you undo characterization and emotional, like the emotional crescendo that you've built up through this musical montage I'm saying the editors should have cut it out to quote uncle joey from full house uh yeah look i'm not saying that they made the right choice by leaving it also like i'm painting
Starting point is 00:30:38 you into a corner for defending this terrible bit of the movie so So go, guy. Defend it. All I'm saying is, you know, you reach a point when you're making a movie like this where you're like, well, we've got to leave some stuff in. That's true, actually. The duration is not huge.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Which is great. Which was, I'm going to be honest with you, the main draw, the main draw card of watching this movie is that fucking gorgeous little runtime oh that sweet little runtime beautiful sexy tight little runtime uh measuring it at a what like 96 a whopping 96 minutes or something yeah something like that it's a boy and what a boy that's the
Starting point is 00:31:20 umbilical cord uh do you have a shining light tim yeah i do actually and i've seen it in the movie lots of times but it hasn't been my shining light yet but i love it every time when um when our boy zicoli is at the pcp party and he's going into the drug-fueled like kind of dream sequence just before the rotoscope is fully kicking in. There's like, you know how there's those flashes of him and like, and one he's passionate girl and he's drinking and he's got like his arm around James Reed from the fearless. And it's kind of a POV of someone else who's at the party.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Cause it looks like they used a steady cam or something. So it's sort of like quite a cool trippy thing. There's this particular expression this face that zach efron pulls off and it is just so recognizable of of like drunk good times yeah he's kind of got almost he's almost like got his tongue hanging out of his mouth like a dog kind of biting it a little bit and just waving his head along to the music totally inebriated totally removed from being concerned about what other people think he looks like and i'm like i fucking have been there man i know i know that feeling he he captured it for you yeah it's there for like a
Starting point is 00:32:37 just a split second a few frames but it's um i reckon he did a great job of that micro-expression. Tip of the hat to you, Ziccoli. Well done, Ziccoli. You're a bright boy, you're a brave boy, you're a clever boy. Introducing a second emotion to his... Drunk. ...considerable range. Yeah, it's a hell of a repertoire, crying and drunk.
Starting point is 00:33:01 They're two good ones to have Up your sleeve On any movie set Oh yeah, oh sure Have you got a shining light? I'm going to be honest with you Tim I gave you a while to pad for time I did not Most of the shining lights were just things that we Like moments we grabbed out of the movie
Starting point is 00:33:21 And made our own Like for instance when Paige They're at Tanya Romero's house, and she shows them the papers. She goes, I got sent this from the bank the other day. I found this on my doorstep the other day and handed it to Paige, and Paige was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:33:36 This is covered in raccoon blood. Oh, you're in big trouble now, lady. He says, oh, no, brilliantly, and then there's a silence where you could insert anything that's on the paper. Because there was more to that. When you said that while the movie was playing, you were suggesting that the raccoon blood-soaked note was a sign
Starting point is 00:33:54 that a gang had targeted your house. Yeah. That's what they do. They're using raccoons as quills. Yeah. Or is the, what is it? The ink pod? What are they called? Well, the ink well.
Starting point is 00:34:08 It is well. Pod is such a modern word. Well is old timey. Yeah. Well, well, well. Well and quill. So your favorite bit of the movie was a bit that did not happen in the movie. No, it was Paige saying, uh-oh saying oh okay but only because of what you could
Starting point is 00:34:28 add to that and you're here yeah well it was the moment i probably enjoyed the movie most so yes that's a shining light jesus christ that is bleak considering we're gonna watch this thing 40 hey no man double digits oh yeah here's to that it's a big birthday yeah it is there's no cake i'm keen it's just you and i i said this to you during the watch today but i'll say it for everyone here i feel like we need to start throwing a little more toppings on this thing at this point i think we're we're pretty we're pretty in there with the movie so i think we need to like get out in the field and do some some weird shit gladly for some watches let's watch it at a nightclub
Starting point is 00:35:06 yeah that's a depressing idea i'll do it yeah and we'll record in the nightclub too it'll sound terrible yeah yeah yeah i love that okay done excellent good shit okay well there you go that's how you make something you can't back out of You put it on a podcast and let everyone hear it. Good shit. I'm pretty happy to round this up. Well, I've got fucking heartbreaking news for you, Timbly Wimbly. What? Old Spindly Timbly Wimbly and his Spindly memory banks.
Starting point is 00:35:37 You've got no money in the memory bank, mate. We've got to go all the way back to Los Angeles, California. We've got to get inside James Reid's beautiful apartment. It's actually a house. We've got to go all the way back to Los Angeles, California. We've got to get inside James Reed's beautiful apartment. It's actually a house. We've got to go into his fucking living room. He's got to come out of his back room or cupboard under the stairs with a bag with a MacBook Pro box inside of it and say, Getting sentimental with James Reed.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Remember how loose we used to get when we'd sing Patty Schwartz Party Time? Yeah, people miss it. I'm getting a lot of listener feedback coming and going, just give me one more, man. Give me one more of those. It's not going to happen here. Maybe on the friend zone, but not here. We're siloing that shit off.
Starting point is 00:36:25 In fact, we already did one. We did one a few weeks ago on the friend zone but not here we're siloing that shit off in fact we already did one we did one a few weeks ago on the friend zone yeah but i was in the i was it was a skype one yeah it's trickier um okay well guy seeing as how you i feel like really copped out of your um shining yeah gladly man i'll tell you exactly what's in that fucking box shining yeah gladly man i'll tell you exactly what's in that fucking box may have gotten a little sentimental they said i get an opener for summerfest what's inside that box tim a very very expensive bottle opener he says to zicole you got a job i'm gonna be crushing bears and crushing chicks at summerfest and you're gonna be opening all of them for me. Only the bears. Only the bears. The phrasing came out way wrong. Phrasing.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah. It's just so pretty much he gives him a very expensive can or bottle opener and he's like, I want you to bring a backpack full of chilled bears. I'm going to be fucking caning it on the main stage and you're going to be plying me with booze. Oh, that is how you destroy an apprentice. He's like, this is my version of
Starting point is 00:37:25 sentimentality i'm a fucking alcoholic i've got a real problem with emotional you're my you're my connections yeah and you are my bottle bitch i think that's what friendship is dang so he's making him a glassy for summer fest that's his version of getting sentimental that sucks um and that was garden sentimental with james reed you didn't come with me on that one i was thinking about how i could insert the words patty schwartz but it wasn't possible nah it's not gonna happen not this week get out of it hey everyone thanks for listening this episode was brought to you by big pipe presumably yeah i just go i that occurred to me halfway through well if we do it now it's sort of burying the spot isn't it unless we say that we're going to do a petty schwartz party time at the end of the read which we're not but if we say
Starting point is 00:38:22 we will and even say we're not you'll still stick around to maybe hear it I'm confused by what you've just said I can't imagine what the casual listener of this podcast would be thinking right about can't imagine what the head
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Starting point is 00:40:08 Yeah, man, that was very professional. I'm a professional man. Makes me sound like a jiggle-head, doesn't it? In a professional world. And I'm a professional boy. And on that musical note, thank you so much for joining us again. We will be back soon in the friend zone,
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