The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Thirty Three - Lambourne

Episode Date: November 4, 2018

Tim Lambourne, New Zealand television and radio personality joins Guy and Tim for a lovely wee watch of the pearl of a film, Grown Ups 2. Lambo shares his stories of American frat boys, Guy notices an amazing post-production edit to mask a big muck up and Tim delves into the potential use of a little person used as a stand in for one of Sandler's kids.Most importantly, the boys delve into the recently announced four movie deal Sandler has struck with Netflix and suffice to say, they're not happy about it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to episode 33 of the worst idea of all time with myself, Timothy Andrew Batt Me, Guy Alexander Halifax Montgomery And a very, very hesitant Timothy Parke Lambourne Welcome along Timothy Parke Thank you, it's so informal this starting If you're listening at home, you're like, what's it like? Where do they pull back the curtain? I'm going for it

I've got to boost your volume but I don't know how Lambourne This is so hard Are we still going? Yes Okay Like, where do they don't pull back the curtain? I'm going for it. I've got to boost your volume, but I don't know how, Lamborn. This is so hard. Yes. Okay. Lamborn, how are you feeling? Immediately. Let's get your first initial thoughts.

The movie's just ended. We've seen it for 33 times. You've seen it for one time. This was my first time. And I knew, like, obviously, you know that it's going to be real bad, but it's really upsettingly bad. Just... And I'll get to why. I'll get to the greater themes of why i think

you're overreacting is that not the point do you not want no i want i want i just want you to sort of just amble through this thing middle of the road i don't want any passion like a half committed boyfriend yeah okay it was fine you were you were reluctant weren't you i was very very reluctant you didn't want to be here well you wanted to be here you want to do the podcast you were like safe environment you tried briefly i saw when we said do you want to do it there was a flash that came over your eyes like what can i make up that will get me out of having to watch the movie but i'd already said to guy like 10 minutes before you suggested that i had nothing to do so i couldn't straight lie we pinned him down

and we dragged him into the lounge, and we put the movie on, and we taped his eyelids to the top of his head, and he cried, and he cried, and he threw up on himself. He's covered in vomit. The man smells putrid. It's disgusting. Vomit is a recurring theme. The worst bit is as well is that he vomited really early on,

and that sort of curdled on his shirt. We didn't let him get up because he has to watch the whole thing. No. He's just sitting in a puddle of his own spew. There's no phones on and there's no moving while the movie's rolling. I do want to address any listeners who think that it's not taken seriously.

Those rules are enforced very, very seriously. I thought I could maybe do some tweeting, some Instagramming, just to pass the 90 minutes. No. Actually, 100 over 90, but you can't. They mean it.

They mean what we're doing here We mean business bucko It's weird We didn't get to where we are today By skirting the rules No There's strict rules in place for a reason Guy

We've got so many segments now That I want to dive right into some of them Is that We're really pulling this thing up aren't we Yeah we are It's bursting at the seams In fact I want to kick off with With the one that's got the best theme song.

Okay. So here it comes. Two, three, four. Paddy Schwartz, party time. It's Paddy Schwartz, party time. It's party time with Paddy Schwartz. All right, Tim. Now, you know the segment.

Our listeners know the segment. Paddy Schwartz is in the movie Patrick Schwarzenegger I'm a Schwarzenegger's son for about four scenes and he is a scene stealer god he's good he's a party machine

you were watching him with special attention I was we told you to you did what have you got for us I think it's his second to last scene

his penultimate scene to use the movie reviewer's word and it is him in a short-sleeved, stripy, button-down shirt. That's not the scene stealer. It's the shell necklace. There is a pure white shell necklace that he is rocking with the couple of buttons undone.

Poker shell? Is that what they're called? Poker shell necklace? We've got quite a few people in the lounge with us as well. We do have a studio audience. Guy, poker necklace, is that what they're called? yeah it was um as much as patty schwartz is that's by the way who you'll hear in the background who you might remember from episode 29 is the snoring gent prawn salad he's awake now he's been asleep until now sorry you were saying to him no

mostly that the the shell necklace there's not enough of it in new zealand i feel it was a real late 90s early 2000s trend, and it hasn't come back, and maybe Paddy Schwartz can be the man to do that. Well, if anyone could do it, I mean, Paddy Schwartz is a good guy to put his hand up. Hey, put the necklace on my shoulders. I'll carry it back into fashion.

For me, it was a throwback to Belle on Home and Away. She always used to wear those choker necklaces. Was that the one who joined the cult? Hard to say. Cassie, no, it was Cassie. It's probably alienating for you American listeners there. Oh, yeah, American. We now have more people listening from the States

than we do in our home country. Is that a thing? You're big in the States? Yeah. I wouldn't say big. And we just want to let you know, Home and Away is an Australian-based soap opera that's huge down here.

Kit, Kit, Kit. Thor. Thor was on Home and Away yes that's your connection yeah yeah old Hemsworth the Hemsworth boys

is he with Miley Cyrus is that he was I think they were and then they I don't know what happened what a turn up for the episode

America it's not often that we make it like people from New Zealand and Australia make it well not so much New Zealand but certainly Australia

is you mean New Zealanders don't often make it big. New Zealanders don't make it big in America. Australians occasionally do. Two brothers, the same family, the Hemsworth brothers, destroying Hollywood. That's so cool. It must be a nightmare for their parents' old friends to have dinner with those guys. Oh, yeah.

So, how's Angela getting on with her Bachelor of Arts? Yeah, she was struggling a while. Then she took a semester off. Oh, well, Chris and Liam are doing very well in Hollywood. on with her Bachelor of Arts yeah she was struggling a while then she took a semester off all while Chris and Liam are doing very well in Hollywood you know my

point Chris one of them is fucking Miley Cyrus that girl from the television is Angela fucking anyone famous

meanwhile Angela's got a B in her art history exam I think she hooked up with Eric Banner one night he was always off set Eric Banner's actually a B in her art history exam I think she hooked up with Eric Banner one night like he was always off set

like the person there Eric Banner's actually a very underrated you wouldn't be unhappy with that would you okay this is another Adam Sandler film

Funny People yeah Eric Banner is a comedic revelation in that film you know he plays Leslie Mann's husband Cameron Diaz

oh that's my girl I love that movie. It's so funny. At least shit my panties. The support for me here. Oh, it's so funny. It was like, yes. And Emerson was like, yeah, but there's not many times you meet someone as beautiful and

lovely and talented as whatever the Leslie Mann's character's name was. And then everyone was like, yes, but Cameron Diaz. Fuck! You know how the story goes with that role as well he was supposed to be like kind of a maybe a high flying

Wall Street American jock and he pitched to Judd Apatow Eric Bannon was like nah I reckon we can make it funnier and he pitched to

the dickhead Aussie well his first movie role was in the castle which guy is he I'm so lost with you guys right now I'm not even on the same page as you two

I can only imagine what people look like there'll be a lot of people listening who are with you guys I'm not one of them I'm not even on the same page as you two. Is it Kits? I can only imagine what people look like. Kits the kickboxer, yeah. There'll be a lot of people listening who are with you guys. I'm not one of them. Hey, I'm sorry. I'm listening to you two. What are you talking about?

Eric Banner. Eric Banner. We're talking about Eric Banner. Do you know Eric Banner? Which one is he on in the castle? The hot daughter's boyfriend who does all the kickboxing. He talks about the movies. I saw the fight.

We saw, what was it? And Jumanji. Yeah, yeah. And what's the tornado one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the Hulk. The Hulk, yeah. Twister. One of the Hulks. yeah and what's the tornado one yeah yeah yeah the Hulk Twister one of the Hulks

Twister yes yeah yeah yeah I know who he is I didn't know what you were talking about I zoned out have you seen Munich Munich is amazing

Tim you're reviewing all the wrong movies yeah let's bring you back let's bring you back in we've done Taylor Schwartz party time you know what we've

got to talk about man before I forget that Netflix has just signed a full movie deal with Adam Sandler that's right this is insane this is big news

just as a quick aside to that I also love that the worst Saturday of all time Facebook page is becoming like the de facto

dumpings place for any Adam Sandler related news we're a clearing house for Sandler info if you want all the Adam Sandler news go there first

we've accidentally stumbled into becoming Adam Sandler's premier news source. So Netflix started just being a distribution channel online for different shows and movies and things. And now they've ventured into their own production house. House of Cards, of course. Fantastic show. Emmy award winning. And they've just decided that they're going to sign a four movie deal with Adam Sandler.

I know. I mean, you've got to say, it's probably the first misstep Netflix has publicly made. Shit, yeah, man. Because Orange is New Black? That's Netflix's original series? That is, yeah. That's a Netflix original series. Is it good?

I haven't watched it yet. Oh, man. How's Jason Biggs? Is he good? Yeah, Jason Biggs is good. No shit? Yeah, but the thing is... There's Biggs in it?

Yeah, yeah. From American Pie? Yeah. What the fuck? Speaking of irrelevant 90s comedians Who shouldn't be reviewed every week He's very good in that show I think for me this Netflix deal

This is Adam Sandler's last cash grab I mean his stock is falling Did you hear the quote that's in the press release for it He says I signed up to this deal for one reason And one reason only Because Netflix rhymes with wet chicks Yes I did see that You fucking go, man.

That's the thing he actually said. You absolute piece of shit. Not only did he say it, but he approved that to go out to All In Sundry as the press release celebrating the moment. He just wanted to lower expectations right off the bat. How could you lower them from grown-ups too? By coming out with wet chicks.

With Netflix rhymes with wet chicks. It's not even spelt that... Yeah, it does rhyme, but technically it's not. Well, I mean, it doesn't have to spell it's not Well I mean it doesn't have to In fairness to Adam It doesn't have to spell It doesn't have to check out Don't you dare be fair to Adam Sandler

At this point in the game Don't you dare This is not the time or place I will be fair to Adam Sandler This is not the forum Yeah fuck that guy And fuck Netflix For falling into that

I mean I am I'm interested to see There's also a quote From like the executive That signed it off saying Everybody loves Adam Sandler's movies No everyone loved Adam Sandler's movies He's going through that serious patch in his career now

And he's doing He's in a movie called The Cobbler About some guy who cobbles shoes in New York And another He did Punch Drunk Love He's ventured into the kind of art It's slightly artier side He didn't have to do anything shit after Funny People

It was done He could do good shit from there have to do anything shit after Funny People it was done he could only do good shit from there on out he crushed it with Funny People he didn't have to do grown ups to

he bought goodwill because his character was semi autobiographical in Funny People and so everyone sort of related to the ascent and descent of a career

and then he went I'm back in the game bitches that's so disingenuous though because it was like here's me here's me bearing my soul.

This is a brand new chapter of honesty for me. And then, like, nah, just kidding. I'm going to grab another $180 million on this shitty film. Who's saying these aren't honest films? Well, if he's saying Netflix wet chicks, maybe it is autobiographical. Tim, I'm going to be honest with you. You took about 12 or 13 notes during the movie.

Yeah, I took some heavy notes. We have burned a lot of minutes right off the top oh god have we what I mean we've got stuff all this talk of home and away and poker shell necklaces yeah yeah

I mean yeah you know you welcome someone in with open arms to the podcast and okay I wanna I've got a bigger concept I guess I'll say that for later

that's how you do it isn't it narrative wise mate however you do it is the way that we do it a couple of things I wanna some notes I've got here just verbatim so sad full stop I want to Some notes I've got here Just verbatim

So sad Full stop I can't remember When I wrote that But it's the third thing I wrote It's relevant to the entirety Of the film Fraternity life

What I will say For their verisimilitude They nailed fraternity life Now I don't want To blow my own horn here Hold the fine Hold the fine Did you just say

The word similitude Verisimilitude What does that mean Reality Like truthfulness Wow that's good When you've got Strong verisimilitude. Verisimilitude. What does that mean? It means reality, like truthfulness. Wow, that's good. When you've got strong verisimilitude, you're truthful to who you are.

So like, it's an important word for acting. It's a $2 word, man. It's a theatre word, yeah. Is it really? What's the real, how do you use it in theatre? Is it like from veracity? The verisimilitude of the play, of the piece. Yes, right.

Anyway, as you were. So the verisimilitude of the fraternity lifestyle, apart from the mass mob murder, kill, kill, kill thing, which I'm sure everyone listening is very familiar with, frat life is as ridiculous as they portrayed it, if not more so. Like that could be, apart from the kill, kill, kill, downplayed from frat life.

And I spent a semester in a fraternity in Missouri. And it really is more cliche than the films. I can't say any more clear than that they are worse than what you see on movies by worse I mean better but also worse Guy you look disgusted and confused No they're hamming that up

No hamming The fraternity is a full scale fight Remove the fight No don't remove the fight Remove the kill kill kill mob It's all there It's all there It really is

I've just seen it Where were you Missouri? What city in Missouri? Do a shout out to the frat Shout out to Columbia, Missouri Spring 09 SIGGAP We roll hard

What's their team? Up the Tigers Go Tigers Go you Tigers Top 25 This is all America They'll get Yeah Tigers Go Tigers Go you Tigers Go Tigers Top 25 This is all America They'll get Yeah hello

Top 25 Missouri you know Go Tigers 409 Sigma Phi Epsilon Missouri Alpha Chapter

It's all there Everything you see Fraternity based Is just exactly Well this is based In Connecticut In the more intense In the more intense states

Like obviously You know Your upmarket New York fraternities They're probably A little more civilized But in Midwest America Well actually This dovetails nicely Onto my shining light Which I'll cram in It's like obviously in your upmarket New York fraternities, they're probably a little more civilised, but in Midwest America... Well, actually, this dovetails nicely onto my shining light,

which I'll cram in in the interest of time, which is the four bros when Taylor Lautner goes, we've got a... Oh, no, is it Taylor who says it? We've got a situation here? We've got a situation. We've got a situation. Yeah, that's right.

It's the blonde dude. We've got a situation here, and then there's kind of a wolf-whistley scream kind of thing that comes out. And then there's a shot to four dude bromans as i was called i would call them just your archetypal knuckle dragging yeah frat dudes archetype for a reason man and uh they're like they're linking arms drinking beers like you would do at a wedding you know with your wife okay you both have the champagne but they're doing what the i've seen are guzzling and they just they're fucking

drawing like there's such there's such parodies of humans but you're telling me Lamborn it's not a parody that's amazing

so you've just changed the whole tone of this episode of the podcast from the movie this is like I'm questioning fraternity life at large

I'm questioning the world little dill weeds ding dongs ding bats what have you seen of fraternities in films that has made you to believe anything other than that?

Pretty sure on the social network, they were all pretty great people. Rich people, sure. Look, I don't know why I thought it was good. The Winklevices, I'm pretty sure they were in a frat. I just feel like the plural. The plural is Winklevi. The world of the movie is so heightened

and everything is so ridiculous. Halfway through, you were like, this is one day? You were freaking out and this all takes place in one day. So I think to draw a direct parallel

between characters in the movie and reality is insane. And maybe, is this opening up, is this changing how you view the movie?

Well yeah, because my fear now is I haven't been to America except briefly through LAX when I went to Mexico once. So maybe the whole movie is an accurate representation of a country I've never spent time in, you know?

Is that a possibility? I've lived in Connecticut for one day, so I can't speak to that. But the frat thing, they really nailed it. And any new American listeners, you guys do on Twitter, just confirm it. It really is that cliche. It's awesome.

I forgot what it was. Guy guy do you have a shining light uh shining light of the film yeah it was keithy's t-shirt when he's learning to kick field goals on the football field it says train hard win easy and uh and to anyone out there you know chasing a career or a dream train hard win easy takes a lot of effort to look effortless and i thought that was really inspiring You know The harder you work, the luckier you get That's right

Similar tangent Make your own luck Make your own luck And on that scene as well Landbourne, did you notice this? No, no, that was Oh sorry, Monty I couldn't

There's a goddamn We've established pretty confidently That there's a goddamn body double for Keithy And it might be a midget we're pretty sure they dressed up a midget to look like him when we rewinded

which we did as a child yeah it's different body shapes and sorry I don't want to say midget little person I apologise

I'm pretty sure that they've hired a little person who's really good at kicking to be a standard they cheat all the other shots I don't know why

they just cheat this one as well it's bizarre and speaking of other issues like continuity oh this is a big one you guys got

buck wild over this oh god this is a goodie so you it's it's a very specific obviously a lot of it takes time you're like

how do I get into this so so Brayden Higgins son of David David Spade he goes to the quarry

after after school with the boys to sort of have a good time to celebrate the arrival of summer. And he sees his dad when he's at the quarry. His dad's forced to jump into the water by the accurately depicted frat boys. And on his arm there's a tattoo which he shows after he sees David Spade.

And it says, Soup Kitchen, my ass. And Tim and I, we've always wondered... Just quickly, in reference to what? What does that mean? It's because David Spade claims that he can't spend the day with his son when he first gets off the train after the back of a phone call

where he realizes he has a son, but no additional information. He makes up the excuse, I'd love to spend the day with you, but I'm volunteering at the soup kitchen today. That's correct. Anyway, but before we even see David Spade at the quarry, so earlier in that same scene

when they arrive and before Braden Higgins jumps out of the water to celebrate the arrival

of summertime there is a tattoo on his arm the same tattoo which says soup kitchen

my ass which they obviously found out in post production and they did a

really bad job of a blur over it like you know when there's a logo on screen that they don't

want you to see which is not the case in this film they're like pixelated out kind of or like

when extras in pornography scenes don't want to be identified which is not the case in this film they're like pixelated out kind of or like when extras in pornography scenes don't want to be identified they just put the blur over it's a very strong example

yep I've watched a lot of porno with extras blurred out we just want to have pornography in that case I guess but anyway

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You sort of really did. Oh, yeah. Undercut the excitement of my continuity error that I found. So what they've done is it's written on his arm and revealed on camera before it should have been. Yeah. And so they've had to blur it out in post-production. I'm amazed that anyone bothered to notice it, to be honest. You mean anyone in post production?

in the editing suite but then they didn't care enough to do a good blur so you're right, good on them for noticing but in fairness this is only the third time we've watched it and it's the first time we've noticed that so I mean you can see why they thought they could maybe get away with a cheap blur you have to dig deep to find

this kind of goal yeah there was I got pretty barred up for a second when I thought They thought they could maybe get away with a cheap lure. You have to dig deep to find this kind of gold. Yeah, there was... I got pretty barred up for a second when I thought that they were mispronouncing the name of the fraternity relative to what the teacher said. Well, that might be true, because they only say it once. I'm coming in hot with this fraternity.

Because is there H in the Greek alphabet? Is there a letter H? Because it's something H-sigma. I had to learn the Greek alphabet. They forced you to learn the Greek alphabet. So tell me, is there a good thing about Because it's like it's something H sigma. I had to learn the Greek alphabet. They forced you to learn the Greek alphabet. So tell me there's a good thing

about a fraternity. It's been five years. It's all gone. Oh okay. But still it's somewhere. We've got two people in the place.

Not enough for the one time it's relevant though. Does H feature in the Greek alphabet? Hydra. You too? I think it does. They think it does.

One of them reckons yes. Let's not get bogged down. One of them reckons don't know. Yes. It does? of them reckons yes let's not get bogged down one of them reckons don't know um H yes

it does okay that's good that's good that's good that settles that and now we know people think maybe there's an H in the Greek alphabet

hate it hate it yeah yeah yeah we need we need to get into the Steve Buscemi mystery tour we do

I haven't thought anything oh haven't you because we were going to throw this onto you no you don't have to you just do it on the fly alright so Steve Buscemi Mystery Tour. We do. I haven't thought of anything. Oh, haven't you? Because we were going to throw this onto you today, Lambert. No, you don't have to. You just do it on the fly, all right? So Steve Buscemi, as we know, he's injured in the first movie. He complains about what the injury did to him in the second movie to Chris Rock.

And the Steve Buscemi Mystery Tour, which is coming to take you away, is right now. And Tim, it's your job to speculate onto what caused this very specific injury to Steve Buscemi in the movie Grown Ups. I think that a previous Steve Buscemi character from a Happy Madison film, of course you remember the sniper from Billy Madison, one of Steve Buscemi's best crossover phenomenal character.

Maybe in a kind of a movie that was shot but was never made, which happens a lot in Hollywood. They shoot movies they never made and it was a football fuck no, because they the water boy what's what's the problem here the problem is that in the water boy which steve buscemi may or may not have been in maybe he shot a scene that never made it to air he makes a good double high five reference for uh billy boucher the water boys and then billy boucher is about to run and like high five him and he high fives him so hard that his hands are stuck up there

oh my god like a double high five and so your theory is that all of the Happy Madison films take place in the same universe it's like the Kevin Smith thing

it's like Jay and Silent Bob and it's like the Pixar theory that all of the Pixar movies exist in the same universe you're saying Happy Madison's operating

on the same level as Pixar it's at that level can that possibly work though because Adam Sandler is always front and center and being

different characters unless he's got some sort of limited amnesia do you know what he's going to do later in his career he's going to do

a movie where he uses all of the main characters he's created in other films and puts them in the same film like Eddie Murphy with

the Nutty Professor he did that Jack and Jill he's going to do it with his own favourites he's going to dust off all

your favourites here comes Billy Bobby Boucher it'll be like a WWE Wrestlemania professor he did that Jack and Jill no he's gonna do it he's gonna do it with his own favorites he's gonna dust off all your favorites here comes Billy Billy Madison Bobby Boucher oh wow it'll be like a WWE Wrestlemania

style event so that do we just figure out why grown ups too well we just figured out what the four deal four film deal

with Netflix is it's Sandlamania get ready motherfuckers Sandlamania parts one to four holy shit what a genius well I'll tell you what

if he has remember that Netflix wetflix joke he made it was so good i'll bet that he hasn't even thought of what the four films are now and this is going to get back to him he'll be like yep that'll do god i hope so adam if you are listening please fly us over to la um this is something we've got lots of ideas for you we really want to be there for episode 52 we want to watch it in ho Hollywood. Can I speak to some more verisimilitude? Please.

The children, the fictional children of Adam Sandler and Salma Hayek are the perfect hybrid children of that family. The casting director nailed it. They all look like they could be the kids of that relationship. Well, Becky Fader is the greatest actor in the film. She's phenomenal. She's about eight. I was absolutely blown away.

She was phenomenal. She was a stand up I hear what you're saying Keithy Are you speaking like ethnically? Are you saying they're kind of like the right look To be the offspring of Sandler and Hayek? That's what casting is

Yeah that's true That's true Is it going to fit? Are people going to believe? Yeah they will Keithy looks like a giraffe though On account of his very large lashes Beautiful lashes I actually I like his face He's got a very emotive face I don't think I like him as an actor Keithy looks like a giraffe, though, on account of his very large lashes.

Beautiful lashes. Actually, I like his face. He's got a very emotive face. I don't think I like him as an actor. Neither do I. He makes bad decisions. It's cool to talk about him like this, because he's probably only 12. Yeah.

I have a question for the men of grown-ups to number 33. 33? Mm. If you were out and about at a bar, and you met a girl that you're really interested in you know Let's call her Nancy Arbuckle for the purposes of the story. Nice. And you start talking about movies

you know you need to know each other common interests and the subject of Grown Ups 2 is going to come up because you guys obviously talked about it but it comes up first with her

and she says oh yeah me and my friends watched the funniest movie the other day it was Grown Ups 2 I loved it. Would you progress

or do you just walk away? Let's go to my house you're getting on the podcast we are busting for some positivity oh my god you're so right that's it the goalposts shift the whole situation changes like well i thought we were gonna have sex but in some ways this is better this is content for the podcast yeah we're gonna use you in a different kind of a way which is less sexual intercourse pales in comparison to watching Grown Ups 2

to finding someone who likes Grown Ups 2 you've got to go deep on this alright and especially if she's her and her mates like can you imagine

us hosting a party where people are legitimate multiple people are into the film we could throw a Grown Ups dress-up party. Just as a thought.

Yeah, I'll come dressed as Adam Sandler, which is any T-shirt I'm currently wearing and some loose shorts. Adidas. Oh, yeah, the product. And a can of Pepsi, yeah. Yeah, and just drink Pepsi. Very dear to my heart.

Having been involved and will continue to be involved in a lot of product endorsement, development and placement. Yeah, you might know Tim Lamborn from the Spark ads. You might know me from holding up noodles Having been involved and will continue to be involved in a lot of product endorsement, development and placement. Yeah, you might know Tim Lamborn from the Spark ads. You might know me from holding up noodles at 4pm in the afternoon on a former show called You Live. I doubt it though. Because it got cancelled because no one was watching, mate. It wasn't that no one was watching, it's that we lost money.

It's a big difference. You say potato, I say no viewership but let's call the whole thing off the product placement of Kmart of the veggie chips in the final scene when he's talking

to his unborn baby of just every the juice that was the final straw for you eh because you keep noticing shit you were like

the label's out on that juice box what the fuck the veggie chips and so I turned to Guy and I was like did I miss veggie as a line

is he trying to get healthy his veggie chips show that he's developing Guy and I was like did I miss veggie as a line is he trying to get healthy as veggie chips show that he's developing his snack over by having more healthy chips snacks no

it's just that veggie chips paid a lot of money the word over came back in if anything he's doing the opposite because if

those are big fans of the movie you'll remember he's eating chips and Pepsi when he wakes up he's got a bowl of chips and a can of Pepsi

on the bedside table see this is because one time when we did the podcast and I was mentally spinning out a bit i came up with this theory that the entire movie is only half a movie and then doubled back on itself yeah and so there is a lot of examples of that like the mooses at the start and the end yeah um there's a lot of characters that come in at like there's probably there's some hollywood formula i guess for this yeah beats there's beats and there's beats in every genre of film.

But there's very specific beats. That's what I was thinking about. For some reason, I was thinking about the movie over the weekend, which is terrible because I wasn't watching it. But where's the 3X structure with Grown Ups 2? Can you please give me a loose definition of the 3X structure? No, I'm not a good enough... I don't know enough about this. You start off

and you build a universe and you've got to like do things like this thing called Saving the Cat where the film's protagonist has to do something so that you empathise with them

and you care about their journey And then in the first act And like almost immediately so that you're really on board and you're invested and it's in the case of Grown Ups 2 I guess it's Sandler wrangling with a CGI deer through his house.

No, he doesn't. That's the version of saving the cat. He uses his child's toy as a decoy. And then it gets destroyed. You kill the cat. It's called killing the cat. So you hate the guy. But then when you do come around, the attachment is strong.

But there's no all is lost moment in this film. That's a standard thing in stream making. Essentially an all is lost moment. This is an all is lost moment for his career. But then the triumphant return thanks to Netflix stepping in. You say it's the all is lost moment for his career. He made a lot of money on this film. Oh, fuck yeah.

All is lost for us. Let's get into my theory. Oh, yeah, let's. This was confirmed when Andy Samberg, Jorma, and the other guy whose name I don't know from The Lonely Island come in for the car washing. Arguably, probably the best scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people have said that.

I've read reviews online. Very funny scene. Very funny scene. The washing the aerial from Andy Samberg. Fantastic. Yeah. He makes it look like he's masturbating a penis. At that moment.

Very metal penis. At that moment with that cameo, I just... You have to think really. This is Adam Sandler saying, okay, we're obliged to do a follow-up because when you sign to get the studio to pay for Grumps 1, they're like, well, if it goes well,

you're indebted to us, you have to do Grumps 2. That's just... From my understanding of Entourage, that's how movies work. Everything I know about Hollywood. Anything... Okay, yeah, sorry. So they have to do

Grown Ups 2 legally they can't get out of it that's probably not a far jump right realistically well I'm not with you but keep going because Grown Ups 1

was okay it sold oh yeah yes yeah it made a lot of money I'm sure when they sign those deals it's like when you do

Grown Ups 1 if it goes well you have to go but you have to understand this is Adam Sandler's first ever sequel so there's obviously that's why it has to be

contractually done because nobody gives a shit otherwise I think he loves it I thinkler's first ever sequel. So there's obviously... That's why it has to be contractually done because nobody can do shit otherwise. I think he loves it. I think it's a passion project. He wrote this. I think this was a passion project. I don't think this was

a contractual obligation. Alright, I'm not here to... But anyway, let's... I'm sorry. The idea of a podcast. What was it? Let's stay with your assumption. My theory.

So he's contractually obliged to do a sequel. Gotcha. And he just looks around and he's like, fuck it. This is the ultimate in-joke. We're just going to see

how bad a film we can make that will still sell and let's just fucking have a laugh. And so they bring in The Lonely Island for a day. They've got Steve... Steve Buscemi obviously got the relationship

through Happy Madison but all of the... Maya Rudolph is acting and doing comedy that is so bad that you just... You can't think that she stood up for that.

That she can be for that that she can be okay with that it has to be like fuck it let's just have a laugh there is we all have a laugh every now and then it's like fuck let's have a laugh it doesn't mean anything to us we've all succeeded this has got legs man i think they're just like we have to do this well let's make it as terrible as poo jokes there's a prince album that's a result of this exact same thing whereas it's a thing that's his label signed him to do like 10 albums he did like six or something and then they really fucked him off and so he just shat out three albums at once but apparently they're not terrible you can't do anything nirvana top of the pops you have to do uh lip syncing okay got everyone to play each other's

instruments so they just yeah they're just like well fuck it what do we really care because there were just too many good comedic actors Colin Quinn Colin Quinn doesn't need to be portrayed that badly I'd like to to rebut okay but you hear

where I'm coming from I agree like I think James James Akas has said before when he came on the podcast that he thought they were having a very good time

shooting it I'm pretty sure it was James someone was saying like these guys are having a whale of a time there might have been a term for time there's no way that's the case

I'm not arguing with the fact that they're sort of mailing it in No, of course They're just hanging out But you're saying it's not that cynical Like, yeah Okay Which I guess No, it's good

Be the, you know, positively I'm too cynical in my old age I just highly doubt that it is that That it is that cynical It's just a bad movie They just made a dud that they don't care about It's not like they actively tried to make a terrible movie. They just fucked around for a few days

and this is what came out of it. And people went to it anyway. And some people, I've heard, have been watching it week after week. Which is fucking insane. For months. I would go with that. I would buy that.

But the quality of the surrounding car is just too high. It just seems like they're having a laugh. They're having a laugh at us. Like, they're taking the piss at us. They're just like, look what we can shit out. And you will still buy it. Because you know how cynical they are in the industry. They might be lovely people.

Why would they all be mocking their fans? Because that is a pretty high concept. Because they've got a weird relationship with their careers and their life. Yeah, and they got bored. This is very existential. This is very artistic. Because the burp fart sneezing, the burp snart that Kevin James keeps throwing, with their careers and their life what does it mean to be a Hollywood superstar very existential and if you look at the quality the burp fart sneezing

the burp snart that Kevin James keeps doing that is abhorrent it's miles away from being a joke it's three bodily functions crammed together

it's nothing and yet they keep trying to convince us that it's a catchphrase to meadows so good yeah he doesn't need

to do that and his catchphrase in this movie is the word what Exactly Such a racist I think you're onto something man We theorised

I think they're just like Fuck it Should we see how bad We can take it And the studio doesn't care You might be onto something Here is a popcorn filler Let's go

We gotta put a bow on this And I wanna end on a high What does that mean Like we gotta wrap it up Oh okay Cause we've been talking a while We've been talking a while we've been talking a while but have we missed

any features no we got all the features shining light did I upset you a little bit here no no I'm just thinking you just blowed my mind twice in one podcast

I want to thank Tim Lamborn for joining us today it's been an absolute pleasure I'm gonna say it doing this podcast is worth the 106 minutes of grown upsups too.

Thank you. But don't watch the movie yourselves unless you can join us. 101, I think. Okay. Felt like six. Felt like 106. Felt five minutes longer than it was. Look, thank you very much for listening, everybody.

Like us on Facebook. Obviously, dump any Adam Sandler-related news you have in that pitch we're creating. And please, if you know Adam Sandler, let him know what we're up to. We'd love to fly over to Hollywood and hang out with him. We're looking at doing a Kickstarter. Can you give us $5, Tim? Shit.

To get over to Hollywood. I reckon we could get David Spade to watch it on the 52nd time with us. I reckon maybe. If not, we'll burn the thing to the ground and get Rob Schneider in because he's so fucked off he didn't get into Grown Ups 2,

but he's in Grown Ups 1. That would be funny. All right. Plus, I've met Schneider before as I've mentioned. Yeah, that's great. I'm going to stop mentioning it. Okay. Thank you very much for listening. We'll see you next week. Live every moment

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