The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Thirty Two - Tokyo Drift
Episode Date: October 6, 2015Guy and Tim are in LA doing a live record during the #Audible LA Podcast Festival 2015. AND WHAT AN EPISODE! Guy talks masturbating to Lizzie McGuire, Tim's theory on where cheese comes from (again), ...the Grown Ups/Sex and The City cross over, random audience member's opinion on whether or not we're comedy geniuses (spoiler: we are) and all the Brady-loving, Mr Big Idea-ing, Shining Lighting, Coffee Guying updates you know and love.Special thanks to our sponsors Karma Cola and Audible.com! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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God damn it, Guy. One of these days you're going to get it, and you'll shock both of us.
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100%.
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Hello.
Holy smokes. People arrived. Hello. Sissy T How you doing out in the crowd there tonight, live audience? I would like to welcome you all to the Worst Idea of All Time,
a podcast in which myself, Tim Batt,
and that's when you chime in.
And myself, Guy Montgomery.
We watch and review Sex and the City 2 every week for a calendar year,
and we just watched Sex and the City 2 for the 30th time.
Hey-o!
That's right.
It's a lot.
More than is necessary.
It's also, obviously, we're in a room with live human beings and arguably a few androids, very well disguised as it stands.
But if you are listening to this in audio,
this would fall, I think, 32nd in the canon of episodes.
So it's the 30th watch, but it's the 32nd episode
because of certain contractual nonsense that's going on.
So it's the Tokyo Drift of worst idea of all time.
Yeah, exactly.
It's the perfect analogy.
This episode, actually, I'm going to name it Tokyo Drift now.
So this is the one that comes two after,
and you guys in this room right now are the first people to know this,
two after the Paul F. Tompkins episode,
which we're recording tomorrow night.
Which is, while exciting, we appreciate the applause,
does mean we'll be watching this two consecutive days.
But we should be talking about this in the past tense because this is
being released in the future.
Much like Back to the Future,
we need to keep our timelines in check.
So PFT, wasn't
he great?
Wasn't he the best guest we've had so far?
Presumably. He could tank it.
It's confusing.
Statistically, it's unlikely, but the guy could
really have a bomb.
He's due, right?
Six years of hits,
the guy is due to fuck one up.
It sounds like you want old PFT
to take a bit of a tumble.
I would like that.
Just to know he's mortal.
It would feel good.
Find the chink in the armour
is sex in the city.
So, as it stands,
obviously one of my first points of order
is to address the circumstance in which we have watched
and are discussing the film.
Oh, yeah.
We're in Los Angeles.
We're in Los Angles.
I forgot to mention that.
We're in LA for the Audible, hashtag Audible,
Audible LA podfest.
Hashtag Audible LA podfest.
Hashtag Audible.
Hashtag Can You Hear Me.
Hashtag Am I Audible dot com. And me? Hashtag amiaudible.com.
And this is the first, and I'm going to go out on a limb
and assume last time that Audible have helped us bring this episode to you
because they're a big fish and we are using tiny rods.
Hey, do you know what service I've heard a lot of good things about
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Yeah, yeah.
I've heard a lot of good things about Mr. Big's Juscuses.
What have you heard? Well, secondably, I've heard if you lot of good things about Mr. Big's jascoozies. What have you heard?
Well, secondably, I've heard if you really want to enhance your Mr. Big...
If you want to enhance the experience of sitting in room temperature semen runoff for an hour,
the best way to do that is to accompany it with a lovely audiobook provided by audible.com.
I'll bet Amazon's spin-off audiobook service has never had a more spicy run-in than that.
That's right.
Semen run-off in a spark at room temperature,
transitioning nicely into a family-friendly product
that everyone can enjoy in the household.
For whatever reason, if you find yourself
in one of Mr Big's jascoozies against your will,
but you still have access to some sort of internet
device, a good way to enhance
what is otherwise a pretty bleak mood, presumably.
Hold on.
Would be to listen to an audiobook as
provided by the great people at audible.com.
I don't want to dwell on
this for too long, but why do they have to be in
the jascoozy against their will? I'm just saying
such is the power of audible
that you might find yourself
held in a spa
filled with whatever
against your will.
Very well.
But such is the brilliance
of the service provided
by the good people
at audible.com
hashtag blazepizza.
No, fuck blazepizza.
We've talked about that.
That you very may well
find yourself enjoying
a spa against your will
on account of the great range
of over 180,000 audiobooks provided.
You got it. You got it, buddy.
I don't even have the screen in front of me.
I know this stuff.
There's leading audiobook publishers,
broadcasters, entertainers such as ourselves.
We've actually read an audiobook.
Why don't you try talking like a human
instead of a Word document?
Why don't you see what that feels like?
Nah.
It makes me feel glamorous if I'm reading it like a robot.
Glamorous?
I think the show's really got a bit of sparkle
to it. Glamorous sounds
suspiciously like glamour puss, which is a
word I'm trying to get off the ground at the moment.
Like a glamorous pussycat.
You will not shut up about it.
Like a pussycat with a diamante collar.
Go to audible.com
slash LAPodfest
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You know, we're heavy hitters.
Yeah.
You could get a great book like Julia Cameron's
Reflections on the Artist's Way.
Yeah, what do you think of that book, Tim,
that you are familiar with and have even read the blurb of?
It's in my to-do, that's for sure.
And you get a 30-day free trial.
And one free audio book.
So get that in you.
That was a good plug.
Was it?
Yeah, to all the quality control people at Audible.
Audible.com.
Yeah.
Well, we're off script now, bud.
All right.
There's no safety net anymore.
So let's get into it.
Sex and the City 2.
What did you think?
You know, I'm still waiting for the
tide change, Tim. But I'm
still not a big Sex in the City
2 guy. It'll happen for you.
You've got to have the faith.
Like, the logic
would suggest there has to
be some moment
in which it becomes more tolerable.
Do you mean within one watch or within our journey of multiple watches?
I think either, either, both, potato, tomato.
What I'm saying is, like with Grown Ups 2,
there was some point along the way in which we wound up thinking,
hey, you know what, this isn't the worst way to spend an hour and 40 minutes.
And I think accordingly, like, it hasn't happened yet, but I do think that we are due to actually enjoy ourselves at some point.
I think the relationship with Grown Ups 2 was complicated, though, because we recognised that what Adam Sandler had done was create a business.
He was a jobs creator. The dude's making a business. He was a jobs creator.
The dude's making movies and he's just a jobs creator.
So you mean to tell me the only time you enjoyed Grown Ups 2
when you thought of the good that Adam Sandler was sowing in the world?
I feel like that coloured a lot of it
because we kind of cottoned on to the fact a bit later in the piece
that this was basically him just helping out his friends and his family.
And charging everyday humans for the privilege.
But that's okay, because if you charge a million people,
what do you pay for tickets here for the Flux?
$12? Is that about right?
You charge a million people $12, you know how many bucks that is?
$12 million.
You got it.
So you're only inconveniencing people a little bit,
but what he gets to give to David Spade half a million.
I would like
to think I'm not alone in waking up in a cold
sweat around 3am worrying about
David Spade's financial stability.
I'm glad we're on the same page
with that. But Sex and the Titty
2.
Sex and the Titty 2.
There's a spin-off in the making.
Michael Patrick King, he's in it for himself. And then SJP. There's a spin-off in the making. Michael Patrick King,
he's in it for himself.
And then SJP,
there's a lot of cynicism
that this film's been built with.
At least Sandler
was helping people out,
but I don't think
old SJP was helping
No, you've got to look
at the people
who are on the foley,
who are dressing
the mise-en-scene.
That is a diamond
on the CV, this film.
You've got a lot of active audio work
and you've got a lot of great set dressing.
And I did think as I was watching it,
you know, a lot of the set dressing, they treated this thing
like a salad and they were putting all of the
sauces on.
You know what I'm saying?
This is balsamic ranch.
Those don't go together. Whatever. Just pipe them in.
No, there's a good analogy
because much like a salad, this
meal of a film has no substance.
You're waiting for the steak and it never
arrives. It's just like, oh, fuck, okay.
Another leaf of lettuce
or spinach or whatever. We are going to
create this meal
metaphor, which we are
doing. And Michael Patrick King is the hilariously discombobulated chef in the kitchen,
just grabbing disparate contents, going,
no, we can do this, we can pull it off.
Trading on reputation in a restaurant which has been past its use-by date
for over 10 years.
Still holding on to the Michelin stars, though.
Digging up Parmesan from the back of the fridge,
just putting it on in the hope that someone
won't think
wow,
this parmesan,
I mean,
even new
parmesan tastes
a little bit
like vomit.
That's the
funny thing
about parmesan
though,
if it's new
and fresh
it tastes
like vomit
but if it's
old it
tastes like
cheese.
You don't
have a great
track record
with knowing
what cheeses
taste like
or are
what.
Whatever man. Whatever, man.
Whatever.
Strong comeback.
Strong speculative comeback.
Is this because of the halloumi incident?
Because you're not convinced that halloumi comes from really old...
Feta.
Feta.
No.
Goat's milk.
I'm not, and I put it to the esteemed cheese eaters of the room.
Of whom there are at least
ten. Here's the timeline of
milk though. It's milk
and then you leave it on the bench and it's
cream and then you leave it on the bench
and it's curdles and you get the whey
that you use in some stuff and then you leave it a little
more and it becomes a soft cheese.
Now, when you go to the supermarket, Tim,
they sell these things individually.
Yeah.
So you don't need to buy milk and wait.
You can go on and buy all of these different things.
I know, because the supermarket's done it for me.
Yeah.
I don't need to buy and wait for it to turn into halloumi.
That's what I'm paying for.
What do you think the business model of a supermarket is?
They get a lot of milk. They get a lot of milk they get a lot of we're in the dairy aisle for
sure they get a lot of milk and then they just have various like staging areas where it's been
lying around for six months nine months you think a supermarket is like a science fair
where they are selling products as they finish. Yeah. Okay.
It's a commercial enterprise, and what you're paying for is that you don't have to wait around on your own time to wait for your fetter to turn into halloumi.
I'm amazed that for such a fan of cheese, I'm having to explain this to you right now.
I'm a little back with it.
I was, yeah.
I came in confident.
I'm leaving uncertain.
I took notes, this watch guy.
I was there. Can I kick off with my shining took notes, this watch guy. I was there.
Can I kick off with my shining light, just to put us on a...
Very confident.
...positive little hop in our step?
I really like the structural integrity of the wedding cake,
because the wedding cake looks like it's been created
by some sort of architect where it's multi...
There's about six tiers on it that you can see.
And one tier is, they're all kind of off-centred,
and it's got the sticks that hold them up,
which traditionally would go through the middle of a cake.
It's like one's right here on the left,
and then the one on the next tier is way on the right,
and it just evens out.
It's a masterpiece.
And I know we've talked about the wedding cake before
because you suggested that it's got real diamonds in it
and people are constantly breaking their teeth.
Reading their insides, yeah.
But they're too fancy to put their hand up and go, hey, it's not tasty.
When I said that, I would like to clarify,
I was critiquing the diamond as a digestible,
not as part of a structurally sound cake.
At your wedding?
At my wedding.
When you get married, You glamour puss
What say
Yeah
You glamorous pussy cat
You know how to talk me
Into a wedding
So
Asgore
You got me as a classy cat
Would you
So your like ideal
Would be to have diamonds
On the cake
And just
Have everyone know
How to deal with them
Which is put them on the side
And not eat them
Is that what I'm getting
In a land of fantasy
Yeah
The whole thing is diamonds.
Really?
Diamond floors, chairs.
It's a very physically uncomfortable,
visually striking wedding.
Economically unsustainable as well.
How many people have you got at this wedding in the US?
I don't know if you've heard of a little company
called Audible.com.
But I've recently been talking to them as a sponsor.
On the
proviso I don't talk about jizz.
We're not talking
about their brand.
You scratch my back, I won't talk about
jizz. I know how it goes.
It's an old saying.
Do you want to chuck your shining light in here?
Do you have one?
No.
I've got regular notes I could try and reappropriate.
It's up to you.
I have written here, this is not a shining light,
I would like to kick off the potty with a kiss,
and then in parenthesis I've written a gift,
which is a new thing I'm trying,
I think a kiss is always a gift, Tim.
Accordingly, I'll give you a little,
I'll give one on Mike. It's very tender. Tim. And accordingly, I'll give you a little... I'll give one on Mike.
It's very tender.
Not a shining light.
I'm just trying to do that at the start of every episode now to boost morale.
I won't say I don't appreciate it, because I do.
And I appreciate you.
Yeah, no, I do have a shining light.
Hit me.
You want to hear about it?
Of course.
Yeah, you're in luck, because guess who has one?
This guy. And guess...
Have we had too many beers before this? Yes, absolutely.
We haven't had that...
I don't know. I feel like... Because we've had...
Since we got to Los Angeles from
the Shire in the South
Pacific, tending to our sheep and lambs,
we've been out every
night, and we keep saying,
tonight we'll take it easy. We won't go
out tonight because we've got to
keep our heads in gear.
We've got to not kill ourselves before we get back to New Zealand.
But consistently every night that has
been thrown into the wind.
You know what the thing is? It's just too
warm in this town. Yeah, big time.
It's like the whole
Los Angeles is built behind an extractor
fan coming out of a kitchen.
Oh, yeah.
When you walk behind, you're like, ah, what is it?
It's too hot.
I can't wait for the sweet release of cool air.
Yeah.
And then you keep walking, and it's just more hot.
It's all kitchen.
And there are people jogging, and you think you are aware we're right next to a kitchen.
This is not a good place to jog.
We saw Amy Schumer jogging today.
Blew my fucking mind.
She was walking.
She was in jogging gear though, so it counts.
If you're in the gym equipment
but you're walking, it's jogging.
Does anyone know what temperature
it was in Fahrenheit today?
92.
I don't even think that's impressive to Americans.
An American
would complain about 92.
Sure, but this is a room full of Americans.
Oh, you think 92's hot?
You should go to the valley in the middle of summer.
Now, we're looking at 130, 140.
You're going to lose the loved one out there.
You know what you want to do?
You want to book yourself a nice beachfront home at the beach.
That's a maladue. That's a maladue.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is a maladue.
A maladone is not doing that.
Don't go in the water.
It's contaminated with sea lice.
Anyway, I don't know if you have sea lice here.
I'm assuming you do.
I had a bad spell with them at an estuary in New Zealand.
I think you briefly told me about this one.
I broke out in a full body rash for a couple of hours.
Not cool.
It's disgusting.
Anyway, the shining light. Anyway, The Shining Light.
Hey, hold on, hold on.
How similar to that is Scabies?
Because Scabies is like that, eh?
Very different.
Equally annoying.
Scabies lasts longer.
Have you had Scabies as well?
No, but I've been around people with Scabies.
What's going on with your skin, man?
It's cool.
I look young.
Not doing its job.
You've got scales.
The Dorian Gay of the pod...
Gay.
You are the Dorian Gay of the pod... Gay. You are the Dorian Gay of the gay.
Correct.
Very good.
Recently, I have just discovered I am an ageless gay.
I thought I was an aging hetero.
But, you know, you live and you learn.
You do.
Anyway, the shining light, as promised, but two hours ago,
is the mug from which Charlotte drinks near the conclusion of the film.
So, you know, remember, they're very rapidly...
The teacup.
Yeah, they're very rapidly tying up all of the story threads
which they did not feed throughout Sex and the City 2
and Carrie's old apartment, which her and Big couldn't sell on account of...
The market was down.
The market didn't lend itself to selling a home in New York.
A multi-million dollar apartment.
So instead they just held on to it.
As one does.
As one does when the market experiences a downturn, Mr Montgomery.
As the audience surrogate, which Big and Carrie
and all of the characters in Sex and the City 2 are,
they thought, you know what the people will relate to
is sitting on your second property in the Upper East Side.
I want to chime in, but I feel like you're sidetracking yourself
so much already from where you're headed
that I need to just butt out until you get to where you're coming from.
The thing of it is, so there's a cutaway
as all the other story threads are being neatly tied up,
so obviously Samantha gets to have sex
with Dick Bot, the android,
and Miranda gets a new job
where her familiarity with the Pokedex is rewarded,
and Carrie and Big just keep having sex
and not watching TV.
And Charlotte, it's not really addressed.
She's obviously going through huge relationship problems
with Runkle from Californication.
And she defers one day to the apartment,
the unsold old apartment from the television series,
and she's sitting on the couch there and drinking from a teacup or a mug,
which is way too big for her hand.
Big as her fucking head.
Yeah, it's the size of her head.
If you saw this teacup,
you would think that it's some weird Alice in Wonderland situation
because it's completely disproportionate
to the woman you're seeing carrying it.
Absolutely.
It's nuts.
And it's something which I've enjoyed
and laughed about with you during the film,
but it's never sort of occurred to me.
It's so downcast to my, by this point in the film,
it's never occurred to me to say it out loud on mic.
So, in a two-and-a-half-hour film
about a myriad of issues they attempt to bring up
and never resolve, a teacup.
Briefly on screen for us.
And you'll notice from the notes I took this week,
at the top of this page it just says,
Charlotte's mug, which I think could be an okay sequel
to obviously the more well-known Charlotte's web.
A spider finds a home in a mug.
Across the top of one,
Charlotte doesn't want to drink from it
on account of feeling empathy towards a spider.
Charlotte the human and Charlotte the spider
befriend one another.
Runkle is the pig.
And finally adopt a fully kosher diet on account of being married to Runkle for however long.
Runkle and Charlotte have been married and sex in the city too.
I mean, how many people in this room have seen Sex and the City 2?
Just so we know.
You can make noise.
We can't see.
Okay, a few people.
I'm going to say six or maybe seven.
Well, God bless you.
Keep your hand up.
God bless you and your awful decision making.
Hold on.
Keep clapping if you saw it as a result of this podcast.
Two people.
Such is the power of our product.
Please applaud if you just watched it off your own bat
for whatever reason at the time.
Cool.
Does this conclude the market research portion
of our podcast this week?
Yeah, we still haven't figured out
how to process the data,
but it's nice to have on the table.
You know who I loved this week, though?
And we talked to him a little while ago
and then he's blipped off the radar.
His old pink jacket.
Not you.
Guy Montgomery. Pink jacket. Oh, yeah. His old pink jacket. Not you. Guy Montgomery.
Pink jacket.
Oh, yeah.
We love pink jackets.
A lot of good...
So there's an extra near the start of the...
And it's obviously now...
And even if you saw it,
I mean, I'd be impressed if you remembered.
But there's an extra near the top of the film
who dresses himself,
or was probably dressed by the costume department,
who were having a great time.
They're having a ball in this movie.
Along with the set dresses and foley people.
He wears a pink jacket
and he's...
Obviously, his only direction from Michael,
MKP,
as he's known to the inner circle of friends he keeps,
of whom Tim and I are esteemed members,
his only direction was,
you just put on the thickest generic Spanish accent possible and find are esteemed members. His only direction was, you just put on the thickest, generic Spanish accent possible
and find your light.
Yeah.
Find your light, pal.
Hey, Juan.
I've named your character Juan.
Find your light.
Yeah.
And he basically goes, hey, Juan,
because he's American.
Hey, Juan, just find your light.
We'll pay you by the second that you manage to get on screen.
And accordingly, who is otherwise a bit part
extra is literally leaning
in to every shot.
He does a
stupendously phenomenal job of
fucking up every take to the point where the editors
would have got this steaming turd of
takes and go like, this fucking guy is everywhere.
We can't get rid of him.
MKP walks into the edit, oh, you're talking about
Juan? Just cut around him.
It's literally impossible,
Michael! It's a wallpaper of
a character and he has no lines.
The guy is like sea lice!
He's just, like,
it's amazing. He's like a
Where's Waldo in reverse
where it's like, he's always there and he shouldn't
be. You don't have to look hard.
He was only cast in the wedding scene.
You can find him in desert scenes in the Middle East.
Try and find the fucking scene around him.
Let alone him in the scene.
There's a guy in a pink jacket and they're at the wedding
and they're walking down the aisle.
So there's a Liza Minnelli reveal.
It's announced that Liza Minnelli is MCing or...
You know the religious term.
Comparing?
Priesting.
The wedding.
Aren't you an officiator of weddings?
Aren't you qualified for that?
I am a celebrant, yeah.
Yeah, that's the word, celebrant.
You are one.
I got ordained by the Church of Life online as a 14-year-old.
Does anyone want to get married in the room?
The piece of paper
printed out. It's in my parents' house in a clear
file somewhere. There's some printed off
erotic fiction about something
very embarrassing to masturbate to, I'm sure.
Wait, what?
I've got like a...
There's like, I know, okay.
It's never occurred to me to say this.
First of all, think this, or say it out loud,
before, but there's a clear file somewhere in my parents' house,
which has like, it's got stuff like the printed out,
sort of ordained minister of the church of life or whatever,
that means I can marry people.
I like the thing.
But also in that, I printed out, you know, we were young.
We were just before everyone had smartphones and the internet
in their bedrooms all the time.
Okay.
And so, this is getting very...
No, we need to get to the end.
Very frank and personal.
Yeah, but what else is in that file, man?
Just like a printed out...
Little story?
Yeah, like as a...
Little story that you wrote?
I didn't write it.
Sexy little story?
Presumably some sweaty 60-year-old dude hunched over a computer.
It was a big illegal illegal fan of what the fuck
are you talking about hold on it's just an erotic it's an erotic celebrity fan fiction that you
found not that you wrote that i located online printed and had in a clear file which i still
don't know where it is at your fucking parents house i was 14 that's where i lived
who were the celebrities in the...
It's Hilary Duff.
It was Lizzie McGuire.
Hello.
Hey, let me tell you something.
You lost me five minutes ago with this story
and you just found me again, Fred.
Anyway, look.
Because that is a fan fiction I can get behind.
Yeah, it's out.
Look, but not...
Anyway.
Hilary Duff, gorgeous.
What do you think she's doing right now?
It's something more productive and enjoyable.
I reckon she could be in Sex and the City 3
Grown Ups in the City
as like
Samantha's long lost daughter.
Oh wait, you can't do that with a woman as easily, eh?
With dudes it's easy to be like
surprise, you've got a kid, but with women it's like
wait, what?
Yeah, I know. I can categorically say that is not mine.
I think I'd remember.
Anyway, so yeah.
There's a clear file floating around somewhere
in a family home in Christchurch, New Zealand,
which has all of the most embarrassing memories
of my teenage and pubescent years.
Good to know. If I ever need to hold some dirt on you
that's where I'll go
Your dad and me get along great too
You do get along swimmingly
Here's a question I want to throw at you though
In honour of the Rugby World Cup
kicking off today, which I know no one in America
will care about, which is why I'm bringing it up
You could feel that announcement galvanise the room
Absolutely And well done to Japan no one in America will care about, which is why I'm bringing it up. You could feel that announcement galvanise the room. Absolutely.
And well done to Japan.
Well done to Japan. And their huge upset against South Africa.
I love it. I could tell
you people anything you would whoop. At least a couple.
Who's a rugby fan
in the room? Oh, shit.
Okay, apologies. Those are different whoops
from the people who whoops Japan.
There was a room full of people who like rugby
and not the Japanese rugby team.
And there's a room full of people who love Japan
and know nothing of rugby.
Well, look, I hate to bring this up,
but we're in America now, Pearl Harbor.
Well, you have brought it up.
So anyway, the question I wanted to ask you was,
the Rugby World Cup trials are apparently being held at the hotel
where our four sassy ladies are staying in Abu Dhabi.
What the fuck is the ruse?
Because there's no such thing as World Cup trials.
And if there was, they wouldn't be held in the Middle East in scorching heat.
Yeah.
It's a winter game.
Previously, we've prodded at this sort of plot detail, if you will, which you must,
in which there's a
Rugby World Cup trial happening in Abu
Dhabi, which obviously this is insane.
It's too warm. There is no such
thing as a Rugby World Cup trial where they
draw on the best rugby playing nations in the
world to go and play rugby in
140 degrees Fahrenheit.
Or whatever.
Clearly we don't understand
Fahrenheit.
But as
more information is bled out
with each watch,
and that's obviously how movie watching works, is if you watch
it more and more, you get more information
from it. It's not the same movie. It's always
an ever-changing and adapting
living, breathing
being. The logic would
be, surely, Tim.
Yes.
And esteemed people of the room.
And internet.
Whenever you may be listening to this.
You're awfully close to that communal mic.
I'm kissing it.
For a kiss is always a gift.
And occasionally a disease, I'll find out about later.
But what I am saying to you is that
whoever's in charge,
presumably someone at
the Pentagon or involved in
the UN's international defense,
they've pretty much
assembled a group of
highly trained athletes.
Okay.
The cough is not for comic effect.
It's a cough.
Thank you for that stipulation.
Why are people laughing at coffee?
I don't get it.
Anyway, I'm dying.
So they've pretty much been like,
okay, we've got, this supports your,
fuck, DigBot theory from the previous week.
I think you can see where this is going.
Feels like someone's trying to stop you getting this theory out.
I'm getting a very 24 vibe,
like someone has injected some gas into the room
that's causing you to fuck up.
I'm back, baby!
Suddenly Jack Bauer's gone first through the door.
Pretty much what's happening is someone who's in charge
of international defence and is aware of the threat posed by Dickbot...
Yeah, you're back on Max93FM.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, welcome back.
So pretty much what's happening here is you've got the defense force who are gathering a whole bunch of, say, over 100 highly trained physical specimens to combat this one robot, a.k.a. Dickbot.
Oh, the hand-to-take-down Dickbot.
That's right. The only reason the World Cup trial ruse exists is to counter the threat posed
by this cyborg
sent from, you know,
wherever. Yeah.
I was postulating Japan, funnily
enough, so that all arcs back, doesn't it?
I see what you've done there. Holy shit.
What if it's like, oh.
This is an
international relations nightmare and I feel
like single-handedly we may be creating some trouble here
but what about all the ill feeling that was created from Pearl Harbour
has now translated to a payback
Pearl Harbour 2 in the form of Dickbot
Dickbot is Pearl Harbour 2
So Dickbot has been
built by the Japanese army who
have yet to release the ill will
that they feel, and fair enough
about the backlash over their initial action.
So this is round three.
Yeah.
Thoughts?
I have no reason to refute what you're saying to me.
In the spirit of both our friendship
and the energy of the room right now,
it would be in my best interest to support
what you are suggesting
here's another question i'd like to throw at you guy i want to discuss what you think because it
occurred to me during watching the film this day this day that we might be on slightly different
um frequencies about br, the Rat King,
and what his motivations are,
and his moral compass.
No one asks to be a Rat King, for a start.
What I would like to do first is just ask you,
can you talk to me a bit about
what you interpret Brady, the Rat King, as being,
in terms of a dude,
and then I'll see if we're on the same page.
Bog-standard eight-year-old kid, whatever the number is, we'll call it eight, King as being in terms of like a dude and then I'll see if we're on the same page. Brady, bog standard
eight year old kid,
whatever the number is, we'll call it eight.
He goes about a pretty haphazard
science project.
Slaps it together.
I mean, you know, the detail
aesthetically very satisfying.
Scientifically, there is no
merit to it. There's nothing.
Nothing. In what he's doing. It's a salad
of a science project. There's no substance.
The kid is mailing it in. Absolutely.
And there are obviously big problems at home.
I mean, Dad, you know,
he's around. He's a stay-at-home dad, but he's an
absentee father. He's trying to get his spelling
bee business off the ground. Mum,
a lawyer.
And so he's just slapped together a science project,
taken it to school. For whatever reason,
he's won. Obviously, this is the teacher's
efforts to placate the discovery
that Brady's walking into. Brady is
pretty much passive the whole way through his
ascent to being the Rat King.
Can I just hit pause on that? Do you think Brady doesn't deserve
to win at the science festival?
I think I'm on the record as saying I do not
think that a mouse maze
a science project makes. I think, yeah, I think it'm on the record as saying I do not think that a mouse maze a science project makes.
I think, yeah, I think it's a reflexive, defensive decision from the teacher to say this kid is on the cusp of harboring the power of vermin.
We will placate him by awarding a science prize to him and accordingly hope that he doesn't wind up maybe, I don't know,
and accordingly hope that he doesn't wind up maybe, I don't know,
harnessing the underworld that is the Rat Kingdom and taking over New York and eventually the world.
Let me pause you there because the fine's going off,
and it might be mine, I'm not sure.
But if it's someone in the audience...
Take it.
Yeah, or give it to us, it'll be more fun.
But equally, it might be me.
So, yeah, my understanding of it is that Brady is,
he's sort of, it was thrust upon him.
Some people are born heroes,
others, some people are born great,
others have greatness thrust upon them.
I believe Matt Damon said that in the Titanic.
Sounds right.
I believe that the saying applies again.
Okay, that's good. So we're on the same page with Brady, I think. I hadn't
kind of gone that in-depth about...
Take it, but don't let it ring out.
Yeah, there's definitely a phone going off.
Make a decision on the phone call.
Let's all figure it out.
Oh, it's me. It's my phone.
That it played the intro from.
This is what I love about America. No one can understand
how to operate an Android device.
It's like giving it to someone here,
although I don't know how to turn this off.
There you go.
They're like, what is this
alien technology you've brought into our
country that's going to take over? It's just an Android,
man. They're very popular now. Just look
at Samsung. Killing it in the Android
space. No, I will not
look at Samsung. Tell me,
what do you think of brady it's hilarious that
there was my phone though huh that is funny i do agree um brady so yeah no absolutely we're on the
same page with this so brady i've always interpreted as being um sort of i don't want to say batman-esque
but he's like kind of an anti-hero, is what he is.
So he's a guy who we can actually trust to do the right thing,
but very dubious methodology of getting there,
and you've got to break a few eggs to make some omelettes,
or decapitate people using your army of rats to take out a villain.
I don't think you're making multiple omelettes.
I don't think the saying is you have to break a few eggs to make some omelettes.
You make one omelette at a
time. Well, not if you're getting
shit done, which Brady clearly is. He's an ambitious
dude, you know. Multiple eggs,
multiple omelettes, a lot of ovens
involved. Like, not just the one stovetop.
He's
cooking up a feast.
There are four stovetops on one oven.
There are multiple ovens involved. This guy's
making at least, arguably, five to eight omelettes.
While harnessing the power of the entire vermin kingdom,
the guy's busy.
He's getting shit done.
But my point being, I'm glad that we're both on the same page with him.
He's an ethically dubious guy who I think ultimately...
I didn't say any of this.
I'm trying to think of an example
in film where
it's kind of like when you see the villain
who just does kind of petty bad shit
but then redeems himself at the end by sacrificing
himself for the hero. That's
who I think Brady the Rat King is.
Just similar to Dickbot, who is
pure evil.
But Dickbot did not ask to be pure evil.
That was programmed by the Japanese. That's the beauty
of his character. That's why he's
such a rich character because
you're right. He's a total victim
of his own circumstance. He didn't ask to be
an evil artificial intelligence
unleashed by the Japanese onto America.
He just was. He was born that way.
And that opens up a lot of discussions on the
nature versus nurture thing.
It's just a better movie than Sex and the City 2.
It's waiting to be made.
Yeah, I agree.
And that's when Dennis Dugan, Adam Sandler, Michael Patrick King
get in a round table, start throwing ideas around.
Big time.
And probably, I would like to think, just cuss us out for several hours.
It's a satisfying thought.
Imagine Michael Patrick King and Adam Sandler
met at some red carpet event and they're like,
these fucking guys.
That alone would make this worthwhile.
Yeah, we can come back to Brady.
There are other points, because, you know,
obviously, we're
liable to get distracted. There are other points during the... We're liable to get distracted. There are other points during the...
We're liable to get distracted from what?
Whatever it is.
What is this?
Just out of curiosity once again,
who in the room has never heard an episode of our podcast before?
And don't be shy.
Applaud, applaud.
Cool.
What are you even watching?
Are you Drew?
Drew Davenport's here.
He's a podcast superstar.
Yeah, you give it up for Drew Davenport, ladies and gentlemen.
You give it up for him.
So the thing of it is, though, I appreciate the curiosity.
Thank you.
And I appreciate anyone who would pick up a pen I happened to drop.
And I appreciate the fact that there are people in here
who aren't familiar with what we do
who are taking a punt on a grunt, so to speak.
But what...
I don't know...
My friend said to me,
do you want to come watch these guys discuss
62 for the 30th time?
And you've got no context in the lead-up to that.
That is not a strong offer.
Yeah.
Let's look at their schedule.
Pretty sure Greg Proops is on at the same fucking time.
I think I'll give that one a pass.
I'm pretty sure there's not such a context-specific discussion
I could take part in and maybe understand.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say...
Hold on, because now we're back into the market research portion
of the podcast, which I love.
But why did you come here?
You're an Aussie. Fantastic.
So when you said you're a fan of rugby you weren't kidding
for real
cool
and how about you
are you guys friends
love it
all aboard the
friend ship
as Montgomery Burns
would say
we definitely
should have
mic'd you up
for this
you came here
because you heard
we were going to
be here
we met you but yesterday evening I definitely should have mic'd you up for this. You came here because you heard we were going to be here.
We met you but yesterday evening.
You're a sweet angel sent from on high to placate our insecurities.
It's funny when you don't mic up the audience as well
because for the purpose of 99% of the people who will hear this
who are not in the room right now,
any other side of the conversation could be happening.
We're just filling in blanks.
So I could be like, hey, so why'd you come here?
Oh, you heard we were comedy geniuses?
Well, that's very...
I mean, it's a strong, strong term.
It's not un-Jew,
but I'm a little embarrassed to accept it as a Kiwi.
We're very shy.
We're bashful people.
That's right.
Anyway, the original point I was trying to make was...
All right.
I don't think we should be watching...
No.
At the wedding, at the big gay wedding,
which pretty much...
If you are curious, as a listener of the podcast,
as to how long we can be interested in or engaged with the film,
I'm pretty much taking notes and interested in what's happening
all the way to the end of the wedding,
which is 20 minutes out of the two and a half hours.
Like, there's
action and there's like cuts
and there are different characters and there's stuff to
look at in the background of frame.
It's pretty much from there forward that it's
just the four leads
just having huge problems with their great
lives. And
what I noticed this week, and you did too and we talked
about it but I wrote it down, is that the wedding
is the direct, and this is much like the party scene in Grown Ups 2.
This is obviously a big, long time spent on set,
and they're just telling people to do something to make it...
You know, just for an interest level,
on the off chance anyone decides to watch this movie repeatedly...
Is the only direction giving to all of the extras at the wedding
is to keep dancing.
It is honestly like Job from the Bluth family
was in charge of wrangling extras during the wedding
and he just said,
everybody dance.
Everybody dance now.
And there's no music playing
in terms of the
the lineage
of the
like
in the order of the film
there's no music playing
for a lot of the wedding
but anyone you look at
in the background
of the frame
is dancing
the whole time
but dancing in a way
like the movements
are very much
the movements of a person
who has been told
to dance with a fucking
gun to their face
who's been dancing
for too long
no one's finding or feeling the beat
they're just wriggling with nerves
for their lives
because there's not dancing at that point
there's just like worm movement
oh my god I'm so sorry Michael Patrick King
I'll do better
I'll do better next take
it's pure survival
it's just a bunch of people wriggling
to not be prodded or shot.
And you can tell that when you watch the movie
30 times. The fear
in their eyes
is real. It's visceral.
I wanted to broach that topic this week.
I wanted to bring up something
and that is the treatment
at the top of the film leading
into the movie, or the wedding
rather, which basically is the movie, or the wedding, rather,
which basically is the movie for me,
that wedding scene or nothing.
And what's the name of the jewelry store again?
Bergdorf Goodman.
Bergdorf Goodman.
Does that sound like a familiar brand, Americans?
Bergdorf Goodman.
Does that sound like a familiar name to you?
Bergdorf Goodman.
Bergdorf Goodman Incorporated. Let me tell you a little you? Bergdorf Goodman. Bergdorf Goodman Incorporated.
Let me tell you a little bit about Bergdorf Goodman.
Founding father, diamond maker.
I'm Mr. Bergdorf.
This is my associate, Mr. Goodman.
It is mighty fine to meet y'all.
Yeah.
Big fans of jewelry, we would presume.
Anyhow, you were saying?
I can't remember what I was saying.
Oh yeah, what I was saying is,
I really detest the manner in...
Nice one, way to get me back for that chip gag.
What I detest...
Hashtag escalationation well done
what I really detest
is the fact that
Charlotte goes
her best gay friend
is marrying my
best gay friend
as if it's like
two fucking pet dogs
that they're doing
a faux wedding for
it's detestable
I hate that shit
they are human
fucking beings
you do not own them.
It's so awful.
Like that whole opening scene,
that's like,
I think you could feel,
even in the performance,
presumably,
as all movies are,
this one was shot in chronological order.
And like,
this is the first...
We understand the film industry now.
We've been in LA for four days.
We get it.
It's confusing otherwise.
How do you know what goes where?
So
and this is the first scene. So there's all of the actors
getting together on set and they're about to
hoe in to the meaty script
provided by MKP.
And they get given it and they go
oh wow, equal line distribution. This is going to be great.
And they walk in, you know, because they all get
given one zinger. Which is
I understand as someone who hasn't really seen
it properly, was what a lot of the
joy from the television series was built
around, was that, you know, you finally got
to watch four women frankly discussing
their lives and all the aspects they're in.
Finally. Yeah. And so
the four of them, they all get given one line or
whatever and they all like go, boom, boom,
boom, boom. And in between, every
one of them delivering a line, someone drives a bus in between the lines.
And there's no connective tissue
between their zingers as well.
It's just like MKP was contractually obligated
to get all the women across the line to sign up.
But you can feel the hope in them
and the energy in that scene.
It's like, wow, yeah, yeah.
Now, Mike, check this one out.
Check out this little poppin' zinger.
All the deep-seated doubts I had about doing this sequel
for the last five years were misplaced.
Maybe we'll have fun together.
And I feel like that is present,
even in the deplorable lines that they deliver.
And so they aren't really even paying attention
to the detail of the script.
They're just so excited to be back on.
They're sort of just trying to...
Rallying against the turn.
You've got to catch up with a friend
or you've got to do something.
You've got to go and do something
which you feel like you should be excited about
but you aren't necessarily excited to do
and you convince yourself en route
and even in the opening throws
or whatever that activity is,
you're like, wait.
Hold on.
Let me just plug a personal example out of the air.
Say, for example,
you live in New Zealand your whole life
and you go to America for a podcast festival
which is all predicated on you watching Sex in the
City 2 and you
can't even look forward to that. Would that be
a sort of sound example?
Yeah. And so in spite
of
the huge backlog of information you have about
how you're definitely not going to enjoy yourself
you start watching Sex in the City 2
just with the blind hope that maybe this time
you'll push through and wind up enjoying yourself.
This is what's happening on set
on the first day that they're on set
when they're at Bergdorf Goodman.
The four of them are all doing this.
And I think by the end of the scene
as they're delivering the sort of
vaguely homophobic lines,
they're all coming to terms with the fact
that they're in for a very long time on set
and a very long time in Morocco
because they're not going to go travel and shoot in Abu Dhabi
because Abu Dhabi want nothing to do with the film.
They're sitting in Abu Dhabi in spite of it being paid for
by the Abu Dhabi Tourism Board, as we understand it.
I feel like we should be wearing tinfoil hats right now. by the RBW Tourism Board as we understand it.
I feel like we should be wearing tinfoil hats right now.
There's only one thing that I can throw in the mix at this point because I see time's ticking away. Skibbity-bee, skibbity-bee. Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. Bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo.
Ho, ho.
Hey-oh, skibbity-bee.
That lady's playing the saxophone.
Skibbity-bee.
Bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo.
Where's he going?
What's he wearing?
Frankly.
That's the question.
And the answer this week will be delivered by both of us in tandem
because we both know exactly what old coffee goes up to.
We know both of the questions.
We know the answer to both questions.
And they marry up very nicely.
This is going to blow you away.
He is wearing a suit.
You go.
I'm showing off Mike to help you.
Oh, okay. Yeah, that's how you
help someone, by eating.
He's wearing a suit made of titanium.
You may be familiar with the Jackie Chan
career revitalising
the tuxedo.
Yeah, that Jackie Chan, Jennifer Love, Hewitt franchise,
which got off the ground like a plane.
Genuinely surprised you do know what movie I'm talking about.
I can't say I've seen it, but I remember the poster.
Of course, I haven't seen it either. No one did.
I think the basic premise of that movie is Jackie Chan is sort of hapless
and he's given a tuxedo, which is sort of a robot.
It's programmed to know.
I'm getting a thumbs up from a member of the audience.
I'm on the nose.
So the guy is wearing a titanium suit,
a suit provided presumably by the US government
in anticipation of any upcoming attacks.
That is exactly what the movie leads you to believe.
Until it is revealed that said suit has been made by one John Bigg.
From a big old book of ideas.
You don't mean Mr Bigg from Bigg's Big Book of Ideas, do you?
The very same. The very same man.
Mr Big Big,
while wandering on his office one
day, colourblind, aimlessly looking
at the stock market, trying to figure out if it was
up or down.
We've never
seen this before.
Not only is Mr. Big colourblind, he suffers
from awful vertigo.
I mean, the stock market...
The 60th level office was a real fucking dick move. the stock market... The fact that they put him in that 60th level office
was a real fucking dick move.
The stock market could not be a worse place
for this guy to be working.
I mean, the man's got no built-in compass
or sense of colour.
He is literally just in rotation every day.
Just his whole life is guesswork.
Bad time.
So he's in there and his mind wanders a lot
and to help his crippling anxiety
from being put up on the 60th floor
while suffering from vertigo
is he often will flick on the TV
and lo and behold, what trailer did he watch?
The Tuxedo.
And that gave him an idea.
I'm going to rip off the Tuxedo.
So he just decided he was going to build the suit
and then he teamed up with a noted science legend,
Andre Agassi.
You'll remember Andre Agassi from his book,
The Tales of Andre Agassi.
This works perfectly because Big,
in terms of the chronology of the film,
the point at which we meet Coffee Guy,
a.k.a. Jackie Chan, in whiteface, is...
I forgot about that bit.
Yeah, yeah.
So this is when Carrie has...
She's gone off the grid, so to speak,
to finish that article she's writing for Vogue
to promote her upcoming book, I Do, article she's writing for Vogue to promote her
upcoming book, I Do, Do I, A First Year Guide to Marriage. So he might project a confident air,
but the guy is paranoid. He thinks Carrie's onto his vertigo, his colorblindness, the fact he's
been losing their money for over 10 years. He pours what remains of their savings into the suit and into Agent Chan,
who then, he's tasked with following Carrie around New York.
So Carrie thinks she's out gasbagging with the gals.
Guess what?
Big's got a mole right next door.
You dig what I'm saying?
I absolutely do.
The audience might be confused
by the fact...
Of course, I know the plot of this.
Yeah. It's the story.
But the audience might be a little confused
that it seems like
Mr. Big's chief
character point
is that he's losing a lot of money, and the way
he solves that is by following his girlfriend
around with a guy in a titanium suit
which doesn't seem to solve any of those problems.
You know the thing is when you're
in the depths of despair you're not thinking
straight. Exactly.
You're not processing each
problem individually. They all
meld into one sort of hellscape
and you're just trying to fix things
as they occur to you and accordingly you don't
get anything done because you're just in a panic.
And this is the circumstance in which Mr. Big finds himself.
But, I mean, yeah.
Beautifully, we both know the ending of this tale.
Well, which is the most obvious set-up for a sequel
in the history of cinema.
Correct.
Michael Bay would do well to learn from the end of Sex and the City 2,
in which there is the nationwide power surge,
obviously from the Pentagon, the source of all American power.
Because Brady the Rat King has found a way to just throw his armies.
Not a lot of people know this, Americans,
but all of the power in your country is generated from the Pentagon.
That's right. There's one 200-watt plug.
Yeah.
There's just been daisy-chained on a bunch of multi-plugs.
There's a multi-plug and then an extension cord.
And if you look...
Actually, I don't know if you guys have looked at America
from satellite before,
but you can actually trace the state lines
from the extension cords running across the land.
It's like the Great Wall of China,
but a lot more dangerous. Yeah. And thinner, because they're only this... I mean, they're not land. It's like the Great Wall of China, but a lot more dangerous.
Yeah.
And thinner, because, you know, they're only this...
I mean, they're not water...
It's risky.
What are you guys doing?
This whole room...
Brady has figured out that the economic powerhouse
of the free world, the United States of America,
has one chink in its armour,
and that is the power grid,
which seems haphazardly put together at best.
And he's just thrown his armies concurrently,
all of those rodents together,
focused on the Pentagon
and who's going to save them?
Interestingly, Mr Big
and his agent Chan, Titanium Soup Man.
That's right.
We don't find out how it goes
because it's a franchise
and you're going to milk that shit.
You can't just set up something that interesting.
I say as people
leave the room. And some people would say
it's an anti-climax, which
dangerously seems like something weird
teetering over the edge of
creating.
I beg to differ.
I beg of you to have
a different opinion from you.
Me too, kind of.
It's the origin of that colloquialism, begging to differ.
To be honest, this is...
I grovel to ye.
We've...
On my knees.
To have an alternative opinion.
We've got to call it off, mate.
This has gone too long.
This conversation?
Yeah.
Absolutely not.
No, it's gone too long.
I've got to stop running down.
Sorry, what did you just say?
I'm from where you're from
and I didn't understand what you were saying.
I can only imagine what other people were hearing.
I've got stuff written down.
I'm going to, in all seriousness,
I'm going to give you 90 seconds to wrap up.
You're like three different points.
Okay, first of all, Tim,
do you think we'll be friends, A, forever,
B,
a while from now,
or C, not after February?
February 2016?
Yeah.
I reckon forever.
That's very sweet, thank you.
Next.
Okay.
Secondably,
I know
the clue is in the title, and then
in parenthesis I've written the word sex,
but if I know I'm surrounded, I do not
have the confidence to have sex like that.
No,
the context is obviously everything.
I know what you're talking about and no one else does.
Yeah.
No, so the thing of it is,
Samantha, and this is the issue with watching the movie
and not having seen the television series,
but I understand Samantha's character,
she's rambunctious, she's confident.
45 seconds.
She enjoys herself as and when she pleases sexually, but in the film
she winds up having sex at the big gay wedding
trademark Michael Patrick King
with like a
concrete layer called Nicky, right
and they're having sex and it is
they are sandwiched in between two rooms
one in which her friend Charlotte
and husband Runkle are sleeping with their two
children and the other one which Big and Carrie are
and they are fucking so loudly.
20 seconds.
It is shaking the very foundations of the wooden New Hampshire house.
What I'd like to say to you, Tim, is I don't know.
I don't know.
I think that...
Sorry, I'll stop the clock.
It is a really mean thing to do to you.
I'm sort of bearing my sexual soul to you.
Yeah, I know, I apologise.
So, what you're saying is...
I could not...
What they're doing is...
I shouldn't have put chips on stage.
What you're saying is you couldn't have sex with someone that loudly at a wedding
when you know that there's heaps of people you know are around.
Is that the gist of where we're headed with this thing?
You know, when you boil it down to
its composite parts, it doesn't feel like it was
worth bringing up.
What was your third point?
Yeah.
What I'm trying to say
is I don't really love having
loud sex when I know people can hear.
I just needed a room
full of people to know that. It's not relating to sex in the know people can hear. I just needed a room full of people to know that.
It's not relating to Sex
in the City 2 at all.
I just want that to be on the record.
What's your third point?
Fuck you.
Come on buddy, bring it
home, bring it home. Let's do this.
I just brought it so far home.
I have given
two deeply personal details.
I had no intention of sharing.
I literally can't remember the first one.
I know it happened like four minutes ago.
I don't know what you said.
It won't be on record.
Look, you know, man, I like you so much.
I really do.
Oh, that's right, friends forever.
Yeah.
How ironic.
So, no, see, hey, no, I want to hear the third one.
Come on.
The other thing I've written down, I've got, I don't know why they really hone in on Carrie's
eye makeup purchase and subsequent use.
Yeah, you remove context.
These sound like the ramblings of a madman.
No, listen.
Hey.
You give Montgomery 20
seconds in counting down,
suddenly they make perfect sense.
How dare you?
How dare you? Because you're right.
How dare you in you attacking yourself,
not how dare you by coming up with the original point.
I was trying to attack you.
Let me tell you something, folks.
The Carrie eye makeup thing
makes no fucking sense.
She's gone to Abu Dhabi.
This is a chick who brought with her, like, 80 pieces of luggage.
She's got ample amounts of makeup that she's brought with her.
Even if they're on a PR trip, there's no doubting this lady had to pay for extra baggage.
Totally.
But the film pays special attention to the fact that Carrie, when she is in the souk,
buys special eye makeup.
Like mascara, right? That's just there in Abu Dhabi, which
she doesn't need. And you see her buying it.
You see her paying for it. You see her
talking about it. You see her putting it on. There's a shot of her tearing
an off-brand
mascara from like a whole
sort of, there's like a laid out, like
this long sort of, there's just, it's all
just individual tubes of mascara,
and you see a close-up of her pulling it off.
There's no brand name recognised.
Like, this movie is all advertising.
There's nothing to tell you what this product actually is.
But there's still a very intense shot of exactly what she's tearing off.
It makes no sense then.
And then later in the movie, when she's preparing for a date with Aidan,
so she can cheat on who she's discovering is a pretty unreliable
financially and emotionally husband,
there's another shot of the same off-brand mascara.
Neither of them amount to any...
Do you know what?
In saying it out loud, though,
to a group of people who don't know it like we know it,
and it sounds condescending,
but you will never know this movie like we do.
That is a fact!
Finish your sentence,
Bubby. What were you saying?
This is the red herring of the
film from the advertising department.
If we chuck in a couple of off-brand...
Sobu. Mr. Big walks in with
Sobu. Sobu Fusion.
And there's a very gratuitous shot of Sobu.
I've googled Sobu. I want to eat it. Sobu. Sobu fusion. And there's a very gratuitous shot of Sobu. I've googled Sobu. I want to eat it.
Sobu
has either never
existed. I sound like Charlie
Kelly and it's always sunny.
There is no Carol
from HR!
No.
There is no...
That is the best episode of television
ever made Absolutely
Fuck that is good
Get rid of that pen, I'm sick of it
There is no Sobu Fusion from New York
Really?
So this is the people who sold brand space
And this lends itself also to that huge billboard
With nothing advertised when they're driving through the plains of the Middle East
Just got a dude's face
They've got at least three things in which there's no actual advertisement There's nothing they're driving through the plains of the Middle East. Just got a dude's face. They've got at least three things in which there's no
actual advertisement. There's nothing
they're selling because it's like, well, if we
put in a few things that don't exist,
it will distract from the fact that
Bergdorf Goodman and Louis V
and all these other bougie brands
have paid a shit ton of cash to get
this thing done in the first place. I've lost it.
Suzanne Somers, probably the best example.
But I get what you're saying. You're saying that if you put enough
fake brands in, you can't see the wood from the trees of what's
paid advertisement and what's just there for the universe
of the film.
Word economy, baby.
I'm going to wrap up on this
because I theorise what has happened is they've
tried to sell the ad space, haven't got the figure
they were looking for, and are so fucking vindictive
that they're like, we're keeping in the slot, we're not filling it.
Just to fucking show them what could have been.
So they went to Max or whoever makes makeup,
and they were like, you know,
let's have a talk, let's see if we can make something happen.
Doesn't get across the line.
Fuck you.
All the screen time you could have had
is remaining in the cinematic cut of this film
so you can see what you could have had and you didn't get.
That is exactly correct.
And do you know what I noticed for the first time this week?
I thought I had an absolutely fantastic spot, actually,
of paid advertising in the film.
It's this great new sort of crowdfunded startup
called Kik's...
No, what's it called?
Audible.
Audible.com.
Audible.com. over 180,000 books.
Over 180,000.
Would you believe that?
You can't even count that high, idiots.
Over 180,000 books.
Now, a book, imagine a movie, but it's hard work and boring.
You are now thinking of a book.
You know that movie, The Martian?
It's got, what's his name?
Matt Damon.
Thank you.
From the Titanic.
You sure know your movies.
That was a book first, apparently,
and the audio book is available from audible.com,
so just use the code audible.com slash LAPodFest.
That's right
and what you'll get
is a free book
and a 30 day trial
for this great service
which frankly
I can say
I can't get enough of
and I say that
in the same way
like I can't get enough
of sort of gold bars
because I've never
had a gold bar.
Oh baby
we've got to close
these threads off
we can't start chucking new threads in.
What I'm saying is,
while I might not know Audible,
I've never kissed Audible.
And every kiss is a gift.
I understand it to be an outstanding product.
Very good.
Ladies and gentlemen, Guy Montgomery.
Ladies and gentlemen, Tim Batt.
Thank you so much for coming out.
Have a wonderful evening.
You're the real stars.
Now, I'm not sure how long we've got this room for,
but I'll bet there's a lot of bladders out there that need emptying.
So if you want to take a leak, do it now and freedom.
Yeah.
Free from, you know from scorn or embarrassment.
So do we finish and you're still talking to the room like they're a captive audience?
Yeah, absolutely.
Because aren't we going to do a Q&A if anyone had any?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We want to get some things.
How long do we have the room for?
Hello.
Okay.
Okay.
That was a decisive female voice
I like that
anyone with any questions
or theories pertaining
to either of the two films
with which we're familiar
predominantly if someone
can give us a good coffee guys
if you're waving
I'll come around
are you gonna go
no come on
come on
no I'll run around
he's already on his way
oh my goodness ladies and gentlemen it's Travis McElroy my brother my brother and me No, come on. No, I'll run around. He's already on his way.
Oh my goodness.
It's Trevils McElroy.
My brother and me.
Hello.
I had a question and we were talking a little bit about it the other day.
I haven't watched it and I will not.
You brave and hardy soul.
Does it ever hit the point of good-bad?
Like the room or that kind of idea of like,
oh my God, if I got a group of people together,
it would be so bad, it'd be good.
Sex and the City 2?
Yes.
So, if I may?
Yes, please.
Luckily, it doesn't.
And we were really, no, we were fucking worried about that when we picked our second film.
So, Grown Ups 2, with both films, they're so
slickly produced, and there's so much money
that's been poured into them that they don't achieve that
level of enjoyable badness.
The Room's the perfect example of that,
where it's just like, whose
hands are on the wheel here? Just one dude, and he's
insane, right? And he's funded
the whole thing himself, and it's just a glory project
for him. But luckily, the studio had
enough involvement to polish that turd to the point
where you're like, oh, a shiny turd
looking rock. Interesting.
So you can't grab onto the badness
of it.
The only reason we picked Sex and the City 2
is when we were making this little
video to say thank you to our fans
and we did the reveal that was like
and we're going to do it all again for
season two,
we experimented with a couple images and that movie poster of Carrie and the Desmond...
It was the funniest possible reveal.
Hilarious.
Fucking dynamite.
And sort of running concurrently with the runtime,
we laughed at it just maniacally.
As an idea, not as something we would pursue,
but just as like,
it's no consideration for what it meant.
But I'd go even further and say, Grown Ups 2
eventually, like, we were lucky enough, when we
watched it for the last time, we were in a cinema
full of people who had heard the podcast
and sort of knew the trigger moments which
we'd enjoyed. And there was, in
watching that, the satisfaction of like something
say The Room, wherein you can all
grab onto these moments and say, yeah,
I remember that, I remember that. Sex and the City 2
it's so long
it fucks you up
if we were to watch it
it's just a competently
made terrible film, if we were to watch it
with a room full of people who have listened to
even every episode of this season of the podcast
I don't think, I think everyone
would walk out, you're like tired
and broken, I don't think, I think everyone would walk out, you're like tired and broken. I don't
think there'd be that sort of
like, sort of galvanising
energy across the room
of like, yeah, because, like all the things
we talk about,
like cumulatively they make up less than 20
minutes of the film. So you've
got another 2 hours and 10 minutes of
movie, which you're just
wading through to get to the trigger.
Does this answer your question at all, Travis?
Perfect.
Yeah, okay.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Travis McElroy.
Travis McElroy.
And if you people out there don't listen to My Brother, My Brother and Me yet,
you're goddamn sure because it's the best podcast around.
Has anyone else got a...
Hello.
Come up. We want to see you.
We'll see them. It's okay. Thank you very much though.
Why if it's not Stuart Goldsmith,
ladies and gentlemen, from the Comedians
Comedian Podcast.
Hello. You remain the only
other podcast that I've advertised from my
own podcast. Thanks, man. Thank you.
Happy to be on the... What was the other one though?
What was that? What was the other one?
No, I said you were the only one.
Oh, we're the only one. His one and our one. Fantastic.
Such generosity of spirit.
I'm a colonist.
Get in the light street so people can see you.
I'd first like to point out the
irony of the fact that it is Guy Montgomery
who is currently battered, when it is
actually Tim Batt that stayed up all
night the other night. And actually, my question is,
which of the two of you is the biggest lush?
Fuck, that's a good question.
Could you please give us a working definition of lush?
Drunkard.
There we are.
Oh, now, I like...
I like a tipple as much as the next man.
Yeah, I like a bear as much as the next guy.
No, I'd like to say on balance that we sort of,
we take turns.
And like, I think that...
You sort of do take turns.
You're not both battered at the same time.
Just so we don't completely tune out the audience,
that's so lovely to come and watch this.
Yeah, I didn't sleep for like 40 hours
and then was just sort of,
I definitely have to go to sleep tonight,
and then I just didn't again.
So I just got drunk again and kicked up.
But it's sort of...
Someone is applauding Tim's terrible disrespect for his body.
Lovely applause.
I think our approach to drinking is similar to the podcast
in which there's some sort of weird counterbalance. A seesaw.
If I see Tim sort of really having a crack
at, you know, sinking a few brews
so to speak, the amber nectar
if Tim thinks it's bare o'clock
I'll pull back.
So I will get to A, enjoy
Tim in all of his drunken glory
and B, clean up after the mess
that is Tim. And vice versa.
Yes, absolutely.
We've got each other's backs, Stu.
So, first equal, friends forever.
Thank you, Stu.
I have a follow-up question. Please.
Given that you got tattoos regarding,
have you shown those tattoos to this audience?
Have you been in the room the whole time?
I have not been in the room the whole time.
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know what underwear I'm wearing, so hold on.
I'll do it.
I don't know.
Yeah, we've got tattoos.
So you've got tattoos.
So my question is, you've got the tattoos.
Get your cat off while he's talking.
As I understand it.
It's a song.
No.
Look at that, ladies and gentlemen.
In all his glory.
Patrick Schwarzenegger.
Happy birthday, Paddy.
Paddy Machine!
As I understand it, you got these tattoos in order to... They were an incentive that on a crowdfunding website, Indiegogo,
you got enough money to take yourselves to America for the thing.
Presumably, you're going to try again this year to come
back to America for the finale of this
season. Or the United Arab Emirates.
Or
Morocco.
Or as you say, the UAE or Morocco.
My question then is, presumably the fans
are going to be hungry for you to do something even
more extreme and permanent.
Give us $4,000 and we'll both get lobotomies.
What the fuck do you want, man?
Mic drop.
Thank you very much.
Stuart Goldsmith, everybody.
Does anyone else have any questions?
Please come up.
Alternatively,
if it's not a question you have
and you may have a theory
about what he is doing
or where he is off to
you're allowed to
share that as well
okay what's your name sorry
George
everybody round of applause
for George
he's an angel
handsome guy
George Zimmerman
yeah
yeah I saw you
yeah I saw you
yeah that is unfortunately
my name
it's cool
it's a fine name
don't let some douchebag
get you down, man.
Thank you.
That means a lot.
I actually have a question about the tuxedo theory.
Yes.
So you were talking about...
You know, it's very honed.
Yeah, yeah.
So let me just open with that.
I can't remember if you landed on Pearl Harbor 2 or Pearl Harbor 3
for when Dickbot invades the United States.
And I was just curious about when inevitably civilian technology
gets repurposed by the government to defend the country,
and Tuxedo Guy and Dickbot have to battle, what's going to happen during that battle?
Look, a round of applause for such a fantastic fleshed out question.
A tremendous question.
I would love to answer it, but I just don't think we've got enough time.
Sure.
Rest assured, we will be digging into this. Rest assured, we will be digging into
this. Rest assured, it will be
uncovered over the coming weeks.
But what you have asked for
is essentially an improvised fan fiction.
That's true.
And we are pressed.
It's just so dense.
So detailed and smart
was the question. I literally did not understand
the second half of it.
Let me say this, though.
The battle is long, and we lose a lot of souls along the way.
But we just, unfortunately, within this format and this room,
we don't have enough time to explore the entire thing.
But we will.
I would like to borrow a quote from Jeff Goldblum
in a little-known film called Dead Poets Society.
I believe he said, in a little known film called Dead Poets Society.
I believe he said, "'Oh, Captain, life finds a way.'"
Thank you guys.
Is there anyone else?
Is there nobody else?
Yeah, come on up.
Hey, we've met before.
Yeah. Introduce yourself. Welcome to Hey, we've met before. Yeah.
Introduce yourself.
Welcome to the stage.
Introduce yourself.
Gage.
Gage, a tall glass of water, everybody.
Gage, come up on stage so we can see you.
And hit us with your question, my friend.
I incidentally regret giving you stage instructions.
What's your question, man?
I apologize.
I apologize.
That's okay.
So, I have another t apologize. That's okay. So I have another
tuxedo-related question.
We literally made this up.
Let the man talk.
Okay, yeah.
I've seen the movie
back in 2002, 2003,
and Jackie Chan was a ballet,
and the tuxedo was
a government-issued weapon
that...
That's right.
I don't know why I remember this one.
We all remember.
Yep.
Did very well at the box office.
It did.
I don't think it did.
Okay.
But I didn't see it, so I don't know.
I agree to disagree.
Finish your question, though, Gage.
I don't...
Anyways, so is it possible that Mr. Big is Jackie Chan,
just in whiteface?
So Mr. Big is not who
we're attributing Agent Chan to. It is
in fact Coffee Man. Yeah, Coffee Guy
is undeniable. Loath as I am
to correct you, Gage, because
you've really, you've grabbed onto a thread
we've just created.
Sorry, I was
thinking of TF Changs the whole time.
Yeah, fair enough. As is your right.
But no, no, no.
As a racist.
Categorically.
I thought George Zimmerman already got off stage.
Am I right?
Oh!
Hey.
I know, that was more of an AO.
I wasn't trying to terrify my friend Tim.
Look, no one here wants to offend anyone.
We're probably already.
What I'm trying to say is that
Jackie Chan is in whiteface as coffee guy
and Mr. Big is Chris Noth
or Knoweth as he's known on the Bible Belt.
Pretty much
we appreciate the theory
but it is inaccurate as it stands.
Round of applause for Gabe.
Give it up for Gabe.
What is our time at?
Ten minutes?
I'm going to sit down.
Down the back, you put your hand up a few times.
Please come on up.
Address the room.
Wonderful.
Thank you.
What's your name, sir?
Nick.
Nick.
A few episodes back, you went into Steve really deeply
and got into his interview with his manager.
Did he speak to you at all today?
Steve?
Steve.
Is he around?
You mean in terms of watching the movie, did Steve maybe come out of his shell?
Did anything come out to you?
You know, Steve, he's a flaky guy.
He's got a lot on.
And he didn't really have a lot of time to come out and say,
how you doing?
Doing.
D-O-O-O-O-O-O.
And the word in the wind.
The answer is no.
Was that more lines than he had?
Yeah.
Thank you, Nick.
Thank you, Nick.
Great question.
Ian, everybody, welcome to the stage.
Ian, a sweet angel, another sweet angel.
Hit us with your rhythm stick, Ian.
All right, so
serious business.
Hold on.
Let me get that mic out of the stand.
I'm having some problems with my
girlfriend.
I've got this rash.
The problem is I haven't got one.
Believe in yourself.
Yeah. Never.
Round of applause for, no, no, no.
Season three.
I have a pitch for season three.
Fantastic.
You're going, you're not going to like it.
You're streets ahead of us right now.
Yes, but do you actually say streets ahead?
Streaks.
Oh, I say streets.
I don't have this to say.
Let the man talk.
Okay.
Very sidetracked.
Season three, you've watched Grown Ups 2 and Sex and the City 2,
and I think it would be hilarious if for every week for a year,
you watched Citizen Kane and grew to hate that.
That is my pitch.
I would like you to react.
Beautifully phrased.
Everybody, round of applause.
Thanks, Ian. You know, Ian's on his way to becoming a congressman, Beautifully phrased Everybody round of applause Thanks Ian
You know Ian's on his way to becoming a congressman
And the thing that's going to get him there is his directness
I haven't seen Citizen Kane
So it meets that criteria
I'll tell you two reasons why it's not going to happen
The first is
Citizen Kane is a beloved film
And I have Yeah I get it The second reason though The first is Citizen Kane is a beloved film.
And I have... Yeah, I get it.
The second reason, though, is I am...
I know we're a ways out at the moment.
I'm pretty convinced there will not be a season three.
Yeah, just for clarity,
in a dream world, Tim and I would find
an alternative podcast concept
that we both are mutually enthused by,
which would not involve quite literally
jumping into a blender every week.
We've really been hung by our own petards on this one.
Yeah, like, yeah.
Is that the word? Petard?
Petard.
No one knows what it means or what a petard is,
but we all just say, yeah, yeah, yeah. no one's going to be hoisted on a patard.
What's a patard?
That's terrifying.
And that is our reaction, Ian.
Thank you for the question.
Do Joe Dirt 2.
Pardon?
Do Joe Dirt 2.
Joe Dirt 2.
Ah.
I thought you said Citizen Kane 2,
to which I would say, yes, sir.
I've got a lot of fondness in my heart for Joe Dirt 1, though.
I haven't seen it in a cool decade and change,
but I loved it when I first saw it.
We've probably got time.
Yep.
What's your name, sir?
David.
David, ladies and gentlemen.
He's a goddamn superstar.
I'm going to keep this real brief,
but as obvious experts on both of these movies
that you guys have done, which
lady from Sex and the City ends up with
which grown-up?
Fucking excellent question,
David.
You legend.
I think we've
speculated. We have. But we've never
really... And it might change,
actually, from our original answers, but
here's how it carves up.
Do you know what we should do?
Yeah.
We should both shut our eyes.
Yeah.
And one of us should...
So I'll do
grown-ups characters.
Okay.
You do sex instead
of two characters.
We'll both shut our eyes.
Yep.
And at the same time,
we'll say out loud
one of the characters.
We'll take turns
and we'll alternate
who goes first.
Exactly at the same time.
We'll pair them off.
But then how will they hear
what we're saying
because it's the same time? We'll say it at the same time. We'll pair them off. But then how will they hear what we're saying? Because it's the same time.
We'll say it at the same time.
No, we'll say them
at different times.
No.
We'll say it at the same time
then we can discuss
what we say out loud.
Okay.
So shut your eyes.
No, wait.
No, hold on.
That doesn't make any
fucking sense.
It works perfectly.
We both shut our eyes.
You say a character
from Sex and the City.
Five,
four,
three,
two, one.
Miranda.
There you go.
Miranda and Laminsof.
That would work.
That's a relationship that would work.
What Laminsof needs in his life is a strong female presence.
That's why he's always gravitating towards his mum.
Sally isn't strong enough to keep him on the porch.
That came out weird.
Miranda is a lawyer.
She is a strong, independent woman who knows what she wants,
and she is very articulate with her needs.
Five, four, three, two, one.
Cuss rock.
Mackenzie is his character's name.
So what we've got here, obviously, is Mackenzie,
is his character's name.
So what we've got here, obviously,
is Mackenzie, the layabout cable installer,
and Carrie Bradshaw.
Both of them have a lot of time on their hands.
They both Skype off of work regularly.
It's not a financially sustainable relationship,
but it's certainly a good time, baby!
Five, four, three, two, one.
Samantha. Well, that is actually a two, one. Samantha.
Well, that is actually a match made in relationship heaven.
Samantha and Higgins, their main character trait across Grown Ups 2 and Sex and the City 2
is a desire to fuck anything that moves.
Too true.
Accordingly, they could hole up, you know,
wherever, preferably Samantha's office or apartment
as opposed to Higgins' run-down apartment in New Hampshire.
But frankly, I think that while neither of them have found long-term love...
You've been saying New Hampshire a lot,
but I think Connecticut, or is Connecticut in New Hampshire
or New Hampshire in Connecticut?
Neither of those things are in each other, and it's not important.
Where does the Venn diagram sit with New Hampshire and Connecticut?
Higgins and Samantha are what each other need
to sustain a long-term relationship,
which of course leaves Laminsov and Charlotte.
Tim, could you please unpack why this relationship?
Tim, we did Laminsov at the top.
Yeah, and by Laminsov, I mean Lenny Fader.
If you'd listened for one goddamn second in your life.
You did well.
You tested me, and I passed the test, and I appreciate it.
So, Lenny Fader and Charlotte.
This is the most neurotic.
Interestingly, she's still wound up with a Jewish man,
so I think that was just destined to happen,
which is cool.
The stars have aligned.
Just throwing cultural aspersions on all Jews there.
They're all neurotic.
No, separately.
Okay.
He is neurotic, and then my mind wandered.
Maybe there is something like that.
Lenny Fader's not neurotic.
The guy is confident and relaxed.
He's a talent agent from Hollywood
who's moved back to his hometown with his family.
It's an interesting movie idea.
The moral is they both have strokes
on their fifth wedding anniversary
and it ends terribly.
One of them dies
and inherits the other one's fortune.
That is the ultimate conclusion
to not only any movie involving these characters
but probably the conversation we have had in front of you and into your ears today.
Once again, thank you so much, everybody.
Thank you for coming, guys.
I'm Guy Montgomery.
I'm Tim Beck.
Big thanks to LA Podfest for having us.
Thanks to all of you for coming.
Truly, it means a lot.
Live every moment.
And love every day.
Goodbye.