The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Twenty - Echo

Episode Date: October 22, 2018

Plauged by technical errors and conflicting time schedules the boys finally found time to watch the movie simultaneously on Skype with each other and record the podcast. Guy is coming to us live from London town on a beautiful crisp British Friday morning. Tim is depressing using his Friday night to watch Adam Sandlers paycheck sequel one more gosh darn time. Nobody is particularly happy but then, that's not the point. Is it? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Are we doing this? Hello Hello Hello Now you go Hello Tim Well it's quite confusing, isn't it? Because we're not in the room together.

We're sort of addressing each other through Skype right now. See, we used to do that. It was a bit. It was a funny gag. But now I literally, I don't know if you were supposed to go first or I'm going or, you know. It's confusing. Very confusing. Hello, everyone.

My name's Guy Montgomery. And my name's Tim Batt. And welcome along to the worst idea of all time. And I've got to tell you that between us right now, this really does feel like the worst idea of all time. Guy and I have just struggled through approximately 35 to 40 minutes of technical difficulties after watching the film together. Together in a way, because Guy almost couldn't be further away from me in the world right now this is true um and also i your camera was working for the first sort of 20 minutes and then it just went and so i i felt like i was watching i got up at 730 to watch the movie this morning, and for a lot of it, it felt like I just got up at 7.30 alone

to watch Grown Ups 2 in London. Let's assess how depressing this 20th watch of Grown Ups 2 was. This is how I'm spending my Friday night tonight, and this is how you're spending your trip in London. Do you know how fucking beautiful it is here today? It's like 30. It's almost 30. It's like 20-something.

Are you shitting me, mate? What are you doing with your life? Get out there, son. Get out there, kick a ball around, mate. The idea is that if we do this now, I sort of get the rest of the rest of the week to to attack London but I mean we'll inevitably arrive at

discussing London sort of momentarily but I mean let's talk about the movie must we? need we? that's what the people listen to the podcast for I don't know if it's true did they enjoy it this week? did they finally come round? you got into a fucking

an argument on the internet like a loser. What happened there? Sir, I'm just eating almonds. I think the microphone's probably picking that up quite loudly. Someone put on my Facebook wall, they had like the financials of Grown Ups 2. And it was about how much money it made and how much it cost. And it was so profitable that this guy was like, hey, there's probably going to be a Grown Ups 3 because it made and how much it cost and it was so profitable that this guy was like hey there's probably going to be a grown-ups three because it was it made so much money yeah and i said oh that's just terrible or something to that effect and a girl said uh what do you mean i don't get

it it was a great movie even better than grown-ups one what am i missing to which i replied functioning discernment yeah which she that's where you took issue with that's where you made your first mistake, is you antagonised someone, not only on the internet, but someone who enjoyed grown-ups too. Yeah, but I've been in a very grumpy mood. There's two red flags there, I see. I've been in a very grumpy mood the last week or so, so I was waiting to lash out an unsuspecting internet netizen.

And then it sort of spiralled out of control. It's hard to take her argument seriously as well. I think her M key on her keyboard is broken. Yeah, it's very strange. Because every sentence or argument she'd make had a capital M in it, and it was sort of, you know, it looked like a 14-year-old who...

You know when it used to be cool to do those texts where you'd alternate between lower and uppercase? I didn't do them, but, like, it was quite a popular thing that people did sure like it looked like the least time efficient way of communicating anything because you'd have to use your caps lock key every second i don't know just a thought do you remember that or my no no that's very much a thing you're totally right and i think maybe some some teenagers out there might still be doing it to this day. They've probably all moved on to emojis now. Yeah, emojis are taking over.

You see they're releasing another 250. Are you serious? I saw actually a New Yorker cartoon this morning which had a test room and two sort of people in suits looking into it and saying i don't understand these millennials but i'll take their money and it was sort of a regular cartoon but then their faces were emojis wow well the new yorker's commenting on emoji now emoji has arrived as if it already hadn't did you say they're releasing another 250 i didn't realize like are they all officially kind of sanctioned is that how emojis

work emojis a big deal mate emojis like an app an app you get do you are you do you i feel like we're too no i don't i feel like we're too fuck what too barely know what like i definitely don't know what i'm talking about i get the sense you certainly know a lot more about this than i do but i don't think you fully get what you're talking about either i absolutely do yeah stupid you know when someone texts you and it shows up with like a million little fucking pictures oh yeah yeah yeah for sure of a cat and a tiger and a yeah but i thought i thought they were app specific so like facebook's got their own set of emojis and Android's got its own set. Those aren't emojis.

Those are stickers. Oh, fuck me. Come on, think this thing through, mate. And don't bloody slander my knowledge of emoji, which is, as I've just shown, expensive. I feel like it's going to be difficult for us to sort of get on the same movie-watching wavelength during this period of the podcast. It's not a bad thing, though, Guy.

Variety is the spice of life. It is variety. Like, even now, I mean, it's just, I'm still sort of, do you know what I did last night? Do you know how quickly I've gone from the soaring highs of life to the crushing lows? Tell me. I went and watched Arcade Fire play in Hyde Park,

this amazing, like, two-hour show. It was a spectacle. Surrounded by Brits. It was like 20 degrees. Just beautiful young British people sunning themselves everywhere. And then I went and had some drinks and Soho afterwards. It was all very cosmopolitan, don't you know?

And then around one o'clock I got a bit tired and I thought, oh shit, I better get home. get home i gotta get up in fucking five and a half hours to watch grown-ups too with someone in new zealand and i understand you're also making a sacrifice it's friday night there and you're i feel like yours is bigger bro i feel like you're overseas and it's also summer where you are yeah well and it's also it's just kind of like i'm hungover now but i've by the end of this it's taken so long to get to the actual recording i've got to go out and start the day like and it's sort of i've got a big day planned i'm meeting lots of people and i'm just going to be in shit steed i'm gonna be in shit steed all day all right up the stew oh you're very important

guy montgomery you're very cool you You're reading your New Yorker. You're putting forward biting social commentary on emojis and you're in London town. I get it. You've outgrown me. I get it. We all get it mate. When you say it out loud like that it does sound like I've outgrown you. You're off to arcade fire

on a nightly basis. It's fine. You're seeing big international acts. I've out going this podcast you certainly have no longer serves any purpose for me there it is folks

week 20 that was the one that broke the camera's back no I couldn't leave you tell me about how you felt about the film

I was I actually sort of it was quite weird because I was sort of, it was quite weird because I was sort of, you know those lucid sort of hangovers where you feel like you're in augmented reality?

Sure. It kind of felt like that. Like I was watching different parts of the movie even from the previous 19 screenings. For instance, my shining light this week was when Keithy's kicking the goals and all the sort of football players and coaches

come over to look at him kicking the goals. Yeah. One of the second coach, sort of the assistant coach, I'm assuming, from the body language and where he was standing, he was wearing these weird sort of shin-high, sort of in-between knee and shin-high blue socks. That was your highlight?

And those socks were my shining light today good god good god that's a stretch isn't that weird that's very weird bro yeah and like and like i noticed um i have some theories that i noticed like you know how when we first meet tim meadows the guy goes what it came. I think the reason he says what like that and has developed it as a catchphrase is because these people are so relentlessly mean to him. He just cannot fathom why they keep coming back and doing it.

He's like, what? Like, still what? And I don't know, there's a certain level of plausibility to that. That's very funny. I like that theory. And I also noticed that Kevin James'

character, Eric Laminsoff or whatever, was a Boy Scout. As a child he was a Boy Scout. That's a detail I picked out. There was a certificate shown in the movie which says Eric Laminsoff, Boy Scout Association of

America. Oh, there you go. Background. Context. This is all from a London viewing early in the morning with a hangover. You've brought a different lens to the film this time. You've brought a different perspective to view the movie through. Well, yeah. Well, I feel like being a broad sort of... It's still the same movie, but it is slightly different.

I mean, I feel like for you it's sort of bog-stand's bog standard Grown Ups 2 viewing, is this, what were you thinking? I was watching it on a laptop screen, which is different, usually it's on a, on a tally, usually I've got my mate by my side, so, lonely, um, you're asleep for half of it, I'm gonna call you out right now on that bullshit. I was, I was awake. I actually believe you were awake, but you looked were awake but you looked out to it because this is the cute thing

I had the movie up but a little window of you in the corner of the screen so I kind of had a picture in picture scenario of Guy watching the movie and me watching the movie that's what I tried to get but your camera wasn't going I will concede I might have lost

sort of a minute or so here and there. Hither and thither. Well, the thing is, the thing with Grown Ups 2 at this point is I can shut my eyes and I know the action that's unfolding on the screen. I might not be able to pick out those details I just shared with you, but I know the basis of what's happening. Oh, yeah. I think we're well acquainted with all of it at this stage.

Hey, do you want to know my shining light this week? It was Taylor Lautner's delivery of when he gets given the monkey by Becky and he goes, it's a monkey. It's real funny.

Stupid. Really? When he first gets it and he looks at it and he realises what it is, he just looks at it and he goes, it's a monkey.

Fucking funny, man. I also enjoyed i i this it's quite funny um so there's certain things i enjoy in the movie now which i i know you originally enjoyed and you'd say the i like these things and i go i sort of fob not fob them off but just sort of be enjoying my own facets what are we talking like one of them is the the fucking the blonde jock guy taylor lawton his best friend when he finds out um that tim meadows is bald yeah yeah yeah it's like he's never seen a bald person before like he's so excited by it hey oh my god he's he's he's bald i got a wild one! It's just insane. It's such a good moment,

because he's so fucking happy. That's what I love about it. It's seeing a moron just be over the moon about something, and there's something special about that. Yeah, mate. Yeah, mate. I mean, I don't know how to... I can't wield the energy to talk about this movie right now.

Yeah, I know what you mean, man. It's just, it's difficult, like via proxy, eh? It's difficult when we're on alternate hemispheres. It's a different energy. It's a different vibe. Well, tell me this. What do me this? I'm going to, why don't I come up with the top three for you right now on the spot,

and you try and give me three? Would that be something that could work? That could generate some sort of energy, some sort of buzz, of vibe i'm really i don't know if we've done this one before but uh here we go it's a big one guy montgomery it's big it's broad it's in your face i want you to shoot from the hip here your top three favorite shots from the film oh a fine choice my favorite shot from the film number one is it fine choice. My favourite shot from the film, number one, is it's at the party after Shaq jumps on the diving board and then there's a shot of everyone laughing in the fanfare

and it sort of punches in like rock documentaries on Kevin James sort of reacting. That shot always strikes me. I know why. I absolutely know the shot you're talking about and I know why because in that shot the shot you're talking about and i know why because in that shot both kevin james and david spade there you can see it they're not acting they're genuinely two dudes reacting to a moment that they're saying like i reckon they broke that

diving board and they just rolled camera on them and didn't tell them that it's a very real visceral reaction but it's not see but for me it's it's i mean i'm assuming you know that that's true but we're talking about the the craft here yeah you know and it's sort of it's the the way it's done i mean if they did the whole movie like that it would have certainly added a a sense of reality maybe to it like it's it's just a different doesn't feel like your stock standard adam sandler comedy when they're shooting like that, when they're bloody shooting from the hip. Sure, sure. I hear you.

It's good. So that's number three. That's number three. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Great establishing shot, right off the top. The Vista, I don't know if that's the correct use of Vista. What's Vista? I think Vista is like a couple of words for that. the vista I don't know if that's the correct use of vista what's vista?

I think vista is like I use the word with I use the word with you go vista noun a pleasing landscape yeah okay too easy

the vista of the trees in Connecticut as we sort of as we we are grounded in the town and the world of the movie and the setting of the film

you know what I'm talking about at the very top oh yeah it says and the town and the world of the movie and the setting of the film. You know what I'm talking about? At the very top, it says... And the only thing that sort of sullies the shot is it says grown-ups too in text across it. In big letters right in the fucking middle. Is it a crane shot or is it a helicopter? Because I can't remember if they're moving fast enough. I would have thought a helicopter. Oh no, it's a crane.

It's not moving too quickly. Anyway, I thought that was a helicopter oh no it's a crane it's not moving too quickly anyway I thought that was a pretty good shot it's a really lovely shot because the trees are pretty and they've shot it in a nice way so I back you up on that bowl great choice for number two mate

and number one shot in Grown Ups 2 the smash hit comedy from Adam Sandler and Friends released in 2013 is oh my god um

I'm sort of it's weird, I could just pull any show out of the sky but I kind of want to honour the the podcast and the top three and really pull out a doozy. And the DOP. Yeah, and the DOP, whose name I don't know. Do you have one that's springing to mind?

Well, one that springs to mind immediately is the sweeping shot for the fight, just before the fight starts, where they're all coming down the hill. Up the lawn yeah yeah you and you you got very excited about that shot remember because you um you sort of it had been secretly bothering you that you figured out how they'd done it and it wasn't secretly i just didn't i didn't put it out loud until i nailed it until i figured it out i can't even remember what my big issue was But it was

I figured out that they had a whole Lighting rig On the move With the cameras And you can tell that Because there's a big shadow that gets cast As it progresses It doesn't

Who fucking cares Who's listening to this podcast What am I talking about This is the sort of detail This is so stupid bro This is the sort of detail that escapes mere mortals I feel terrible Finish your explanation

And then tell me about how you feel terrible I feel terrible getting into the Minute if that's the word Of this movie On something that's recorded Ostensibly Forever, like it's on the internet now so that's it i've i've said dumb shit floating around out there i've gone too deep anyway what i was saying is there's the shot and

they they it's cool they track up a lawn and you can see the shadow gets cast further forward at equal distance to the shot going up so obviously what they've got is a big lighting rig attached to the camera sort of apparatus and the whole thing's on like a truck or something that they're just piss bolting up the hill. So you can see a rolling shadow go up. I got quite chuffed when I figured that out because based on the shadow I kind of reverse engineered how they created the rig.

But the real question is, who gives a fuck, guy? You know? Well, I did. I asked for that information. the rig. But the real question is, who gives a fuck, Guy? Well, I did. I asked for that information, so don't dump on me, for one. I mean, I'm dangerously close to walking out on this podcast. You shouldn't be abusing me. You should be saying nice things. Guy, you're a lovely man, and I appreciate that you've taken time out of your holiday to make it happen. Holiday! But you've got to

appreciate that I've taken time out of your busy social life. Big Friday night. Big Friday night in with the lappy and the microphone and Guy Montgomery. And grown-ups too. Sounds awful. The worst comedy.

Awful way to spend time hey I saw there's a little bit of this isn't anything with the movie this is this sort of this conversation

should exist outside of the realm of the podcast oh please throw anything at me right now spoken to you since I left what happened at

Big Wednesday like I saw a few people on Big Wednesday the comedy night the classic in Auckland I saw like a few people I was posting on social media it was a great people on Big Wednesday the comedy night at the Classic in Auckland I saw like a few people I was posting on social media it was a great big crazy

Big Wednesday what happened shit I'm not sure I don't know were you there weren't you hosting I was hosting it I don't know what they were talking about though like a few people were like well I can't even explain it really who was saying

for everyone listening to the podcast, Big Wednesday is a stand-up comedy night at the Classic, which is on Queen Street in Auckland. I don't know what happened that particular Wednesday. Maybe that was the one... Oh, no, because it was a Thursday night. Nah, fuck, I don't know, bro.

I don't know. Maybe I was just on fire and I've forgotten about it. It's possible. No, I don't think, bro. I don't know. Maybe I was just on fire and I've forgotten about it. It's possible. No, I don't think that would be it. It's possible. I don't think you'd forget about being on fire. Happens so much these days that it's just like, oh, God, which night are we talking about, you know?

It just blurs into one continually successful gig. That's my life, bro. That's my life. Life is like a gig that i'm just destroying oh dude i've got to share this with you i have a new mantra for life which i posted on facebook i don't know if you saw this but on kimmel no no on uh fallon um oh yeah was on there did you because my life's dope and i do dope shit. Yeah, bro. But you've just ruined the story

because I was going to share it on the podcast and people were going to get the whole build up and everything. Oh, fuck. But now I can't. But that's fine. Well, it's pretty much...

No, you have to provide context otherwise it's just a sentence I said to go on. So, Dave Chappelle is talking about the first time he met Kanye West and this is before Kanye even had his first album out.

But people knew that this guy thought he was the shit and he met Kanye West and this is before Kanye even had his first album out but people knew that this guy thought he was the shit and he was just a cool dude hanging around with rappers he was at the Chappelle like studios or whatever and he was watching some of the shit that hadn't aired on TV yet and he got a phone call in the middle of them doing that little screening

because he was with some people who Dave knew and Kanye picks up his phone and he goes yeah uh-huh no no i ain't doing that no yeah i'm watching dave chappelle show that hasn't even aired yet no no i ain't doing it because my life is dope and i do dope shit it hangs up i like that you made kanye sound like he's like he works down the Boston docks as well. Yeah, I don't have great American dynamics down. Hey, I ain't doing that.

Hey, I'm Kanye West. Hey, I'm Kanye West over here. Hey, guess what? George Bush doesn't like black people. Where's my coffee? Hey, George Bush, why don't you like black people? George Bush don't care about black people. Hey, I'm married to a Kardashian.

What can I say? Hey, Kim's giving me some shtick in the bedroom. Oh, hey, Kimmy baby, come back. No, I love you. Oh, God, it's devolved into Rodney Dangerfield, I think. No respect. I get no respect from Kim these days. No respect. I love you. Oh, God. It's devolved into Rodney Dangerfield, I think. Yeah. No respect. I get no respect from Kim these days.

No respect. Take my wife. No, seriously. Take her. We've lost her. Fucking hell. We've actually lost her. Dude, the absurdity of the situation Could barely be overstated

Here we are, two young men in the prime of our life Our mid-twenties We're out there We're getting it done, we're comedians mate We're living dreams People go, Tim and Guy You guys made it happen I work in a bank and I dream about living the lives that you lead

And look at us, guy. You're in London town. I'm here in central Auckland, one of the greatest cities in the world, on a Friday night. One of the greatest cities in the world. And the thing that unites us is that we take time out every week. About two years ago, Adam Sandler said, Hey, should we make another one of those grown-ups movies? I could use the cash.

That is what unites us. It's like Adam Sandler waking up from a dream and being like I want another helicopter fuck you Adam Sandler you absolute cunt I'm blaming you a lot of people could blame us because Adam Sandler didn't make us watch the film 52 times

he didn't have a gun to our head to make us watch it even once I think one of the my favourite peculiarities is that it's like it was just chosen on a whim there was no consideration for how the relationship

with the movie would develop or the fact we were watching it 50 times it was like well we want to do this tomorrow so what should we do Con Air no it's too good

should we do Grown Ups if we're going to do Grown Ups why don't we do grown-ups too, because it's worse. No research, nothing known about anything, just like, okay, we'll just spend the rest of our life with that.

But dude, that's a really important way to go through life. Like, too many people overthink shit, especially shit that's going to affect you. Sometimes you've got to go gutter. You know, people try to plan out things so much these days, but don't think an unexpected child is loved any less.

You sound like Eric Lemonsop's mum. What you might not know is that Guy's quoting a bit in the movie right now. And I got to quote a bit of the girl who blew up at me on Facebook. Hold on. It's quite nice

having that arsenal of grown-ups, two quotes to fall back on in any conversation. Dude, I'm going to, and this can probably close off the podcast pretty much, but I'm going to go through the actual exchange verbatim. I can't pronounce the punctuation though, which is terrible. She doesn't have any capitals at the start of her sentences.

Hey, if you give me a chance, I'll find those two. I'll be Tim. We can do a role play. I'll be Tim. We can do a roleplay. I'll be Tim. You be the girl. I really should have blurred out her name. I feel bad that I didn't do that before I posted it up. Because privacy.

I don't want to start pitchfork shit. Alright. Here we go. A witch hunter is the word I was looking for. Fuck you're a loser. I'll play the role of a person who thinks it's good. This movie was hilarious.

Better than even grown-ups. Am I missing something? And that sneeze wasn't in there. That was an ad-lib. Then I said, functioning discernment? WTF? Maybe it's just the watching of it 20 times, but I have to say, I'm not a fan. So, that does not make it not funny to others. Judge mental much?

Well, the term overwhelming majority is thrown around a lot these days, but it does have a 7% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Wow, so that must make you right. Bravo! Thank you. Thank God we have such great guides on these important journeys of what is deemed funny. Oh, are you going by the convo?

I was looking at the screen grab. I didn't want to go any further than that. What happened after that? She puts a personal attack on you. Oh, what's she saying? A comedian, you say? Never heard of you of you lack of discernment me thinks i is what i is dribble dribble it's like i don't even know how the fuck you type that she said that and then oh and then i said what did i say to her i said something well you said i know it wasn't your intention but the way you worded that made it

sound like you haven't heard of me because of your lack of discernment. It's like the opposite of a backhanded compliment. Oh, and now you know what my intention was. Bravo. And then you quote Lenny Fader. Look, I think we hit some sort of... Oh, no, no, no. You've got to read the quote, though, because it was great. Don't say, then you quote Lenny Fader. What did I say?

I just closed the tab. You said something like... I said to quote Lenny Fader, why don't we all go our separate ways? I don't see any of these conversations working out for me. That is correct. Now, Tim, I think the podcast hit some soaring highs today and we plumbed the depths occasionally.

I've got to go. I'm meeting a friend for breakfast. Mate, go. We're done. We're 25 minutes in. We need to get the fuck out of here. Go live every moment, love every day, or whatever the fuck our speedwagons say. Can't go. We're done. We're 25 minutes in. We need to get the fuck out of here. Go live every moment, love every day. Or whatever the fuck REO Speedwagon say.

Can't remember. Alright. I'm Guy Montgomery. I'm Tim Bat. And this is Torture. Live every moment. Love every day. Cause before you know it your precious

time slips away feel that moment love every day cause before you know it your precious time slips away feel that moment