The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Twenty Four - TwitterDrunk

Episode Date: October 26, 2018

The lads have now clocked up two dozen watches of the film and the mood is high. Tim is punchy after several beers on a Friday night (NZ local time) watch and Guy is still enjoying his holiday abroad but being crushingly brought back down to earth by having to spend 101 minutes on Grown Ups 2 again. Conversation ranges from the movie, to politics, to civic rights icon Rosa Parks to nature of comedic references themselves. It's an interesting listen but as always, it's The Worst Idea of All Time. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Yes, hello and welcome to the worst idea of all time. My name is Guy Montgomery. And my name is Tim Andrew Batt. Are we doing full names? We are this week, brother. My name is Guy Alexander Halifax Montgomery. And you're speaking to Timothy Andrew Batt, and we have just watched Grown Ups 2 for the 24th time. Welcome to this episode of the worst idea of all time and it's party time

I'm coming to you live from sunny Copenhagen, it's 11.23 the temperature outside I would say is roughly 25 degrees Celsius the Danish people are wandering around in their shorts and singlets smiling at each other because they're so god damn attractive and I'm holed up in this

house with Timbap for company a drunk Timbap I hasten to add. You're not wrong. And it's just occurred to me that I've actually come into the recording studio with an area lick of alcohol in sight. So I don't quite know what the solution to that is. But oh, actually, guy, because you're on Skype, the beauty is I can take my laptop and get beer or whiskey, which I have brought.

So do you want a pad for about 45 seconds? I won't be able to talk, but I'll be able to hear everything you say. Talk me through what happened this week in the episode. Okay. I can't believe we're actually taking a break on the podcast to satisfy Tim's rampant alcoholism. But this week we live-tweeted the whole viewing of Grown Ups 2, and I've got to say we really ran that town for the hour 41 minutes

that Grown Ups 2 runs for. I lost quite a lot of followers. Tim, for some reason, was gaining them. I don't quite know what was going on there because my tweets were obviously much more entertaining than Tim's, but it's neither here nor there. It's not about competition. It's about unity.

It's about brotherhood and friendship. And I could really use some company right now you're not wrong it's about twitter uniting the world um it's about hashtags bringing people together it's about the budweiser which i just procured from the kitchen and johnny walker red label which i bought from the liquor store earlier you know what i'm saying i know i know what you're saying uh so yeah i mean in terms of viewing experience i actually didn't really check out too much of the movie this week i'm being completely You know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying So yeah, I mean, in terms of viewing experience I actually didn't really check out too much of the movie this week I'm being completely honest with you

I had the headphones in, I had it on a small screen It took up about a quarter of my computer screen And the rest of it was just Twitter I was just blasting Twitter That was the most tweets I've ever done Yeah, dude, I think we probably tweeted more tonight Than we had collectively since we both joined Twitter Like, there were hundreds of tweets happening Yeah, and yeah, as I was saying earlier we probably tweeted more tonight than we had collectively since we both joined twitter like

there were hundreds of tweets happening yeah and yeah as i was saying earlier um not all of them popular what are you gonna do no not all them popular not all of them positive not all of them grammatically correct if i look at my recent activity timeline on twitter right now it's pretty much just us masturbating each other off like Like, it's just Tim Bat is all up in my business, and I'm imagining I'm all up in yours. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Occasionally someone tries and dips their toe in the pool,

but we just blast them right out of there. We have, like, when we say live tweeted the movie, we mean that in the most genuine sense of the word. Like, pretty much every minute of this movie had at least a tweet from both me and guy and considering that the movie is uh what is it 141 minutes 141 hour 41 an hour 41 101 101 101 minutes like that's a lot of tweets so we definitely probably did a couple hundred tweets each this week. I've got to be honest with you, it was a refreshing way to go about doing this podcast

because I didn't feel like the sort of slow-moving sense of dread as each scene sort of lumbers into the next one. Or actually, it's hasty, isn't it? I was invigorated. I was enjoying myself. My brain was firing. I was going choo-choo-choo. And some pretty big names got involved.

We had Di Henwood came into the foray and promised to do one of the future podcasts with us. Ben Hurley was all up in our grill. Adam Wright from Wellington got involved. My mate Harmona. There was a lot of people who got involved with the conversation. And that just adds as, what's that song? Cat Power? Throwing gasoline on the fire?

Something? I don't know. It's really important. It's a good song. It's really important that you know your cultural references before you dive into them, Tim. Fair call. Fair call. But we want to get away from that.

If you want to revisit all of that, that's the history. But you can just search the hashtag, hashtag grownups2. Something that concerned me greatly is when I was typing out hashtag grownups2 is that hashtag grownups3 was pre-populated. That's a thing that's so popular at the moment that Twitter assumed that I'd be talking about that. I imagine. I'm just going to do a quick investigation

and see what comes up under that hashtag. I'd like to think that rumours are swirling that Grown Ups 3 is currently in the works. I've actually got an interesting revelation to make to you, Tim. I watched the trailer for an upcoming Ben Stiller film a few days ago called A Night at the Museum, Something to Do with a Tomb. It's the third A Night at the Museum, right? Holy fuck, are you serious?

And in watching the trailer, this thing is absolutely chock-a-block with stars. Robin Williams, Ricky Gervais, Owen Wilson, I mean, it's all happening.

Holy, that is a sky of stars. That's right, and watching this trailer, this is one of the, this is the first time, actually, that I've been watching

something and been like, now that movie looks like it deserves to be watched 52 times. It was like, it's like, it's a part of me now now there's just a tickle that sometimes needs to be scratched on my end that's a filter through which I look at movie trailers now it's really odd that's depressing

you should watch the trailer and tell me what you think of what? of what I was just talking about, A should watch the trailer and tell me what you think. Of what? Of what I was just talking about, A Night at the Museum 3. Oh yeah, I tuned out for a second because I was seeing some tweets on the hashtag GrownUps3. Sorry, Bo. This is no way to run a podcast. Listen, it's not a wave of focus, I'll admit, at the moment. I've got a Johnny Walker red one-litre bottle to my right.

I've got a fresh Budweiser open to my left and but the more important more importantly quickly is what what were your options I mean you're drunk and alone in a room with a computer right now alternate to that what were your um sort of social options on a Friday night in in the Bohemia that is Auckland City well uh work invited invited me to join them at the Head Like a Hole concert, which is the first time they've had a live gig in quite a while. And Booger Beasley, lead singer of Head Like a Hole, great man, a bit of a mate of mine, I'd be tempted to say. I quite like to see him tonight, but he's a commitment factor that comes in.

Not only do you like the music but you're actually friends with with one of the band members well like boogers just he's a dude i don't know friends might be taking it too far he probably wouldn't call me a friend but you know he's a good dude and i'd love to see him and i like halar and it would be good but i said nay i said nay there's two house parties which i've said nay to this evening as well, just in the interim, while I record this little puppy. So this is my Friday night, NZT, 1st of August. So you've probably passed up the opportunity to spend time with, cumulatively, over 200 different people to instead be...

At a min. At a minimum. At a minimum. How do you feel about this? I'll tell you what. Starting in, going in, horrible. Really depressed and very down on my luck and very self-pitying. But as the night's gone on and I've injected more alcohol into the old bloodstream, I felt better about the commitment that I've made to the podcast, to the movie,

and to you, Guy Montgomery. And to our fans, more importantly. To the dozens, to the ones and ones of people still listening to our escapades in film. It's to them. This one's for the fans. This one's for you.

And if you take a step outside of your own body and look at the situation objectively, how do you feel about the life decisions you've made to get you to this point? Not great. There's definitely a lot of things I could have done better to avoid being right here. But in light of everything, you know, things could be worse. I could be dead. I could be in Gaza.

You know, I'm OK. Never afraid to touch on politics here at the worst idea of all time much like it's important we'll delve into anything with reckless abandon yeah so i mean shit should we should we get into the movie should we do we should we talk about that i'm actually quite enjoying the sort of vaguely philosophical strain of conversation that we've we've currently tapped into. Okay, well then allow me to pick up that ball and run with it, Guy, because currently what I love about the podcast at the moment is that it's disrupting an overseas adventure that you're on at the moment.

You're on a genuine vacation for seven or eight weeks on the other side of the globe. You're in Europe, you're visiting fantastic cities. My understanding is you're still in Denmarkmark at the moment tell me about it um well with regards to the podcast i've got to say it's actually it's i can appreciate the humor in it and that i'm in these beautiful cities and occasionally i'm going to be honest with you i've woken up with a hangover once or twice and been faced with the the strength of the anaconda that we have to wrestle here in the form of grown-ups too and um it's just it's an interesting sort of seasoning to the trip it's an interesting thing to pepper in to i've never been to europe before you know i mean

i'm fascinated by this place it's incredible and you just constantly have this sort of anvil or stone of shame to drag around with me. In fact, I'd be more akin to call it the stone of triumph in a Simpsons reference because it's bigger. This is the size of this sort of obstacle. It's just weird. It feels really weird. And for those of you who aren't aware of the reference that Guy's making at the moment, it's the Stonecutters episode, which is one of the finest in the golden era of The Simpsons. Yeah, I actually, I've been watching a few episodes of The Simpsons in my downtime over here, and it's just packed with jokes.

The other thing I was going to say, actually, is I went to an open-air screening in Royal Flowers Park or Roses Park here in Copenhagen of The Shining. Roses Park? Is that what it's really called, Roses Park? Not in English. No, that's quite a good pun name if you want to name a park after Rosa Parks, though. If you wanted to make it funny about one of the great icons of the civil disobedience movement bloody Moses Park, classic we've stumbled into one, but The Shining this is one thing that watching Grown Ups 2 every week does do

is it gives me a real appreciation for other films have you seen The Shining? do you know what? never seen it I had not seen this movie before either but it is absolutely fucking phenomenal and Danes are weird they laugh at all the scary bits they've got a weird sense of humor who do germans or danish danish people i don't really know right germans seem like they're pretty normal sense of humor i don't know about the stereotype do they bro yeah i think and they were all good

although it's hard to tell because I might have just been laughing at the accent partially. You know how when you first meet someone with a foreign accent and you give them a two-week grace period where everything they say is fascinating because it sounds different? Correct.

Yeah, I could have done that because I was only there for two weeks. So you were in the full grace period for your entire duration of visit? That's right. But I do feel like they get a bit of a hard rap. Ree the sense of humor. Sorry, I just read a tweet which really threw me off my stride.

Do you know what I've done to prevent distractions such as this? I've blacked out my entire screen. Sorry. I'll turn that shit off. It's off. It's gone. Sorry. It was about Zac Efron and a potential child pedophilia ring

in Hollywood, but we don't need to get into it you sound very muffled oh yeah, it's because I shut my screen which has got the mic attached, this is a nightmare, okay there we go now I've just shut Twitter down, there we go this is a hot mess of a podcast did you say Zac Efron involved in a pedophilia ring? you shouldn't read, we don't need to get into it

we're not getting into it, that's the whole point of me bringing it up the whole point of me bringing it up is that we don't need to get into it we're not getting into it that's the whole point of me bringing it up the whole point of me bringing it up is that we don't need to get into it but why i see no okay i get it that makes sense well done i agree you can ask the obvious question if you wish why bring it up if you wanted to get away from it and the answer is i brought up to get away from it i mean it's a it sounds like circular logic but you do what you've got to do, Tim. You got me there, Monty. You got me there. So of the snippets of the film that you did give your undivided attention as you tweeted your way through this shit show, what stuck out to you this week, Tim?

The performer of one Salma Hayek. Yeah? What do you think? Varied. Varied. Varied. If I could describe it in a word, it would be varied because I feel like

within Grown Ups 2, she gives both the performance of a lifetime, her lifetime, because she's not that great an actor, but also some of

the worst performances she's ever given on film. So it's like, it's all there on display. If you wanted a full reel of her talent, this is the movie because it displays

her at her worst and her best that's a good analogy erratic i mean if it was to be if she was to be compared to a sports star in her performance in this film flashes of brilliance but uh sort of inconsistent and occasionally occasionally lazy the interesting thing about the example you've picked which is a sports star Monty is you haven't gone specific by picking a sports star nor in your terminology have you suggested any sports lingo whatsoever so I'm struggling to see why you

sort of preface that with sports star. Well okay you know like a soccer player, a football star who plays for Tottenham Hotspur and he's young even though Selma Hayek is old. Pick one. Pick one. You've got to name a dude. This is how references work. You name a person.

If it was like in the history, then you say it's like David Tua, once the greatest boxer that Australasia has ever known. Because then you alienate, you potentially alienate certain listeners who don't understand the reference if you keep it broad. No. the analogy remains

accessible to everyone if you operate the reference correctly what you would do is drop the name you get bonus points for those who recognise it and then you go on to explain why they are like that person through adjectives which everyone can then get on board with thus growing the broader audience

out and they feel like they've picked up a joke that they didn't have before to put in their pocket so they can use it at the water cooler on a Monday. It's a powerful... This is how references work. It's a powerful argument. I'm saying in the context of this podcast

with listeners who I assume have a tenuous interest at best with the current conversation, I'm not going to risk losing any unnecessary fans or listeners uh with a specific reference that might be the breaking point the straw that camel that broke the camel's back so to speak and they say look this is too obscure i'm out guy how in any way are you concerned about us losing people at this point like the very endeavor is us watching one of the shittest comedies ever made no hear me out one of the shittest comedies ever made no hear me out one of the

shittest comedies ever made once a week 52 times in a row if they're not down with anything they're gone okay like these people are dt effed up they're down to get fucked up bye podcast yeah yeah if i'm being completely honest the argument i laid out just before was uh it was arguing for the sake of argument i i i agree with you on this one tim i dropped the analogy ball and i feel like i really lost my train of thought accordingly although you really can i ask you a personal question though yeah go for it can i ask you a personal question i mean i know that like we were both there exposed to the movie and sort of watching the movie and definitely both very much listening to the movie the whole way through this week. But did you have a shining light this week, bro?

I like that this is a personal question. You're accessing a part of me I don't really give away to anyone, Tim, all right? I was trying to pad while you thought of a shining light because I felt like you would probably know where I was going with this. I'm not just some two-bit floozy all right if you want to know my shining light you gotta you gotta treat me right you gotta you've got to be a gentleman well let me ask you real kind and real nice right now guy montgomery what part of this

terrible film stood out to you this 24th watch as being not bad uh the the there were two bits oh i only do one i really liked um when david spade they were sort of i was watching it in a meta sense so i was seeing if anyone broke the fourth wall because you know how you can imagine like you can read certain lines of dialogue is definitely breaking the fourth wall like cries for help within the movie to the audience. And David Spade, when he gets put in the tyre, he says, this is peer pressure. You guys are bullies. And in his delivery of the line,

I like to imagine that he was trying to get out of the glass cage that he was in and tell everyone watching, like, I'm not down with this. Because it's interesting because, oh shit, what's his name? Who was in the first one one but he's not in the second one rob schneider um rob schneider managed to break out of the glass yeah he did he did brave man was he now was he doing something like was he involved in a project which conflicted time one no line wise with this or did he just decide he didn't want to be involved i get the feeling he just decided look at this point

this is more harmful for my career than it is good and i'm this is a man who did the animal look i said it last week i'll say it again the animal isn't an awful movie okay you can say it it doesn't make it movie okay you can say it it doesn't make it true but you can say it I can say it I'm pretty sure that they didn't even use an actress to play the female lead they just hired some chick from the first season of Survivor

that's a fact good god I don't know how I know that did you watch the first season of Survivor? it was really good back then fuck Survivor's been going for ages nah man I don't know how I know that. Did you watch the first season of Survivor? It was really good back then. Fuck, Survivor's been going for ages. Nah, man, I didn't. There was this guy, I think his name was Richard,

and he was really manipulative. This is before reality shows were everywhere, and it was amazing to watch someone actually, like, play people, because there was no strategy involved. Everyone was just being genuine, and he was just fucking on the hustle. Did you know Survivor started pre-9-11, bro? It kicked off in the year 2000. Like, that was pre-9-11, bro? It kicked off in the year 2000.

Like, that was pre-9-11, bro. That's 14. And do they sometimes do two seasons a year? I feel like there's been more than 14 seasons of Survivor. Oh, there's been way more. Yeah, there's been a shit ton, bro, because they keep moving it all around the world and pretending like it's a different thing.

Yeah. So anyway, that was my shining light. What was yours, Tim? different thing yeah so anyway that was my shining light what was yours tim um well i guess the varied performance of selma hayek was one aspect to it um but the main one was this week um i got really attracted to the fact that stone cold steve austin playing tommy kavanagh who is the bully of adam sandler our lead in the film yes for reason, throws in this strange nationalist strain into the movie. This pitch of, he introduces this concept that his son is fighting

in the US armed forces. He doesn't specify if it's the army, the navy, or the air force, but that he's in Afghanistan. Yeah. And it's just so at odds with everything else that we've experienced in the film. And it's just so at odds with everything else that we've experienced in the film. And there's something beautiful about that. It's like we're at the end of the movie.

Like, this is it. We're wrapping it up. We're getting everything done. And then, boom, we've got a brand new tone in there. And this tone is a patriotism tone. That was, I think, that's just the movie sort of, I feel like for all of the wrongs that they've done i mean i don't think people who watch the movie will be particularly sensitive to the wrongs that are

perpetuated throughout it but i feel like it's just the movie clutching at some more straws to be relevant and also sort of have some semblance of a moral compass or a family undertone because you've got to remember this is meant to be a family family movie. And I feel like it's just one last fucking, just throwing spaghetti against a wall and hoping it's cooked. And they're just thinking, if this sticks, then people will think that we're American. And you've got to admit that getting a former WWE star to announce that his son is in Afghanistan,

that is a surefire way to get middle America to the cineplex and spend their 12 bucks on the ticket. I also enjoyed, there's a sort of irony in that Stone Cold Steve Austin, in a movie which is consistently advertising the idea that violence and fighting is a test of your merit as a man or whatever. There's a beautiful irony in former professional wrestler,

world champion, Stone Cold Steve Austin, preaching essentially an anti-violence message, which is wasted on the whole town, who then engage in this full-scale brawl with women and children unsafe, men just beating up anything in sight. It would be akin from a political scale to Dick Cheney suddenly adopting a pacifist outlook and saying, let's try Hands Across America again and see if it really takes off this time. You know, it makes no sense. It doesn't match what the history has kind of foretold that they will do.

And it's a backwards world. We're in Alice in Wonderland. Let's see how deep the rabbit hole goes. That's right. Too many beers. Go Montgomery. This film does not stand up to scrutiny 24 times. What say you?

I feel like you've summarised the week's learnings, Tim. I couldn't agree more. I think I didn't learn anything from this viewing. It's just another day in the office. It's another day in paradise. All right, well, let me throw this question at you. Let's, for a moment while we wrap up, if I may, let's move away from the film.

You're in Europe. You're in Copenhagen. You're in one of the greatest cities on earth in the year 2014. Tell me what your experiences have been in the last few days, you've seen what you've smelt what you've experienced give it to me straight okay well uh i'm staying with friends matt and hana and matt has been a fantastic host uh he's really he's sort of i think he quite likes

to ever because copenhagen is not really a destination spot and so i think sort of when he gets a friend over here he's really excited to advertise how great the city is so i've been lucky enough to borrow a bike for the most of my time. And Copenhagen, as I said last week, is the world's most cycle-friendly city, three years running. So we're biking around. There are canals everywhere to go swimming in. I did a five-meter jump. I've just built this sort of platform that you jump off into the canal at a pool.

Which doesn't sound like a lot, but let me tell you, five-meter jump. And I'm not talking to you, Guy, because you obviously have just done the jump. I'm talking to the listeners. That's a hell of a jump. No, I tell you, I think it's not too big. I think it's a nice, comfortable height. I mean, there are kids doing it. I used to be good at jumping off high stuff, but I get scared now.

Anyway. You're going to call me out, Monty. You're going to call me out while I was trying to big ups you. I just wanted everyone to understand that I'm not a pussy, and I don't think five meters is a very high jump. Fair enough. Anyway, there's a place called Christiania, which is sort of a self-governed, it's almost a small country within a country here in Copenhagen,

in the heart of the city. And it's known for, it's sort of, it's the, it's called the Green District, and it's where they wheel and deal and smoke and toke a lot of hash and marijuana

it's this really really bizarre sort of liberal haven in the middle of what is a pretty straight city I mean they love drinking piss over here

Danish people get smashed but they're all like yeah they're all very sort of straight edge beyond that they don't really venture too far into vices

oh they smoke too so just just hashish just hashish and i i bought some hashish it's pretty intense like it's a it's a hell of a drug right ah that's all right it's pretty good it's sort of just you just get a little bit you get a little bit of a buzz on you know what I'm talking about and anyway I don't bro because I live a clean living lifestyle I'm on holiday baby

yeah but you're not on a holiday from God mate you know the judgement still is there he sees everything he's like Santa. He's like a moralistic Santa. Look, I'm going to... I'm going to ignore that

and advertise what I'm doing tomorrow. I'm really excited about this. There's a festival called Vanguard on here. It's in its second year. And I bought a one-day ticket. I'm going to go see Damn Funk. It's like mostly hip-hop artists. Large Professor and Lord Finesse.

The Roots. Mos Def. Method Man and Red Man. The Far Side. Sean Cootie, funk it's like mostly hip-hop artists large professor and lord finesse the roots mose deaf method man and red man the far side sean cootie who's fella cootie's who's his son and his band egypt 80 i'm so excited i'll correct you right there it's mose deaf how did i say it mose deaf mose deaf well it's actually you can say it either way it's actually Yassin Bey He's changed his name anyway Well, very well Guy Montgomery, I'm eternally jealous of your trip to Europe as I've explained

in prior episodes but it is wonderful to talk to you and I think that this one has been one of the most fun watches yet because we were live twinning up a storm despite being on other sides of the world we exploited globalism in the modern age where global communication knows no timely bounds or bounds of distance and i feel like i'm closer to you as a result they got heartfelt this has

been a real um i've really enjoyed this podcast it's been up and down we've hit some highs we've we've touched on some lows. And we're probably going to have to do it again in a couple of days to try and catch up. We're still one behind. It's like we're chasing ourselves. Hey, listen. I've had a lot of whiskey. I've got a lot of whiskey left. So let's call it a day. Let's save the rest of the whiskey for the next watch.

And let's do it all again soon. Have a good night, mate. Guy Montgomery? Yeah. Take care of yourself. Don a good night, mate. Guy Montgomery? Yeah. Take care of yourself. Don't ever interrupt me again. A good night, everyone. See you next time. Live every moment.

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