The Worst Idea Of All Time - Episode Twenty Three - IMDB

Episode Date: October 25, 2018

It's the middle of the night in New Zealand and Tim has to keep his voice down for fear of waking his flatmate, because Tim is one of two men who has to watch Grown Ups 2 again. The other is one Guy Montgomery, an intrepid ex-pat kiwi who's currently in Copenhagen.This week, flauting of rules results in Tim looking up the Internet Movie Database while the film is playing, to hilarious results. Guy's travels through Europe continue and Denmark sounds fabulous. The movie, on the other hand, still does not. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Captain's Log, episode 20. Guy, what episode are we up to? 23, Tim. log episode 20 guy what what episode are we up to 23 tim captain's log episode 23 it's one in the morning local time in new zealand and i've just seen grown-ups two again with my friend guy montgomery via the internet who's currently in continental europe guy i am and I'm coming in. I'm coming to you live from Copenhagen. It is currently 14.57 hours. It's a sweltering sort of, I'd say it's pushing 30 outside. It's muggy. Is that 30C? Sweety.

30C? 30C. What kind of, if you had to guess the humidity, what range would you put it at? I'd put it over 50. You're the captain of the ship. I'd put it over 50. We're co-captains. Yeah, we're both the captains of this ship.

This is our vessel. I feel like this ship is going down. That was, for me, that was a bad... I know we probably say this every every week but that was after like in berlin i was into it not today man dude i loved this watch and i'm not saying that in any facetious manner i got into it this watch something happened for me okay tell me about it well you know how we've got our no phones rule while the movie's playing. Yeah. I must admit I disregarded that for a portion of the film. And I went on IMDB, which I'm surprised I hadn't done earlier,

to look at Grown Ups 2. And I found out that we've got way more knowledge about the film than IMDB does. And at some point you and me should go through and redraft the page. Because, like, even the plot synopsis that they've got isn't correct what what what's inaccurate i'll just try and bring up the plot synopsis and the goofs that they've got in there are so low level like we've got way better goofs but they've got really odd specific ones wow all the diehard grown-ups 2 fans out there will be absolutely over the moon when they check the imdb badge again to make sure someone's updated it, and lo and behold, we will have.

But boy will their faces be red when they figure out that two Muppets from New Zealand schooled them. Schooled them on Grown Ups 2 knowledge. So here's the synopsis as it reads on IMDb. After moving his family back to his hometown to be with his friends and their kids, Lenny finds out that between old bullies, new bullies, schizo bus drivers, drunk cops on skis, and 400 costumed party crashers, sometimes crazy follows you.

But there aren't even 400 costumed party crashers. Because the frat boys aren't in costume. That's a really bad synopsis. Yeah. Oh yeah. I actually watched the movie. I'm staying at my friend Matt's house, and he watched it with me just now.

And about an hour in, he kept checking how far into the movie we were. And an hour in, he said to me, what's the plot of this movie? And I said, what do you think it is? Never a good sign. An hour into a film. And he said, I don't think it has a plot.

And I said, that is correct. That is the plot. You've won the game. And then when we got to the party scene, I was like, this is the climax. And he didn't say or do anything. It just bounced off him. I don't give a fuck. It was so fucking stupid.

I spent about probably 20 minutes of that movie just with my eyes shut, and I stumbled into the realisation, I think a way that I might be able to enjoy it would be if someone reanimated the whole thing, so it wasn't a live-action movie, it was like a CGI, not CGI, like a Toy Story-style animation. I don't know what it would do to the movie, it would just be a nice change of face.

Well, maybe when you come back, we'll get some mushrooms and it'll be as if it has been animated for your pleasure. Yeah, man. Can I read you out a list of the plot keywords that IMDB has listed for grown-ups too? You can. I think these are user submitted,

but in no particular order. Party, voyeurism. Yeah, but in no particular order. Party. Voyeurism. Yeah, I agree with that one. Sexual desire. What? Who's living voyeurism? I'm not sure.

I don't know. I'm going to critique each word, so you say it, and then I'm going to say what I think about it. Okay, cool. So I don't know where the voyeurism is. Sexual attraction. Yep, yep. It's quite a lecherous film lingerie yep that features white yeah white panties no white panties who has oh no yeah there's i wouldn't say it's a plot point but um you do see some white panties at one point at the car wash. Reference to Nicki Minaj.

What is this? I'm not kidding. Who's been taking the piss on this IMDb page? Three word title. Man, we could do a really great overhaul. We could do the world a great service one of them is fisticuffs but um dude i've got yeah sorry you go okay i actually right after the movie finished before we started recording i quickly looked up grown-ups i've never done that before on wikipedia yeah to see because i i i finally reached breaking point you know when colin quinn

does that big motivational speech he says lenny fader went to hollywood made big bucks probably more than you brady x whatever put together and you've always said i think that's unrealistic surely an army of university students cumulatively will make more than Lenny Fader, I thought. But, I mean what was this lucrative career he had in Hollywood? Do you want to guess what he was doing? I don't think he makes, I don't think that that's accurate

what Colin Cormack was saying at all. Before you say what the career is, I'd just like to point out that the reason we don't know is because, despite the fact that we've seen grown-ups two, 23 times we've seen grown-ups one3 times we've seen grown-ups one no time zero time maybe that's what will kick life into the film when i come back i think we should do a double screening i'm really fuck man i'm so excited to watch this movie with you again like in person yeah i know it's gonna be i'm finding it i'm finding it really hard not having you there like i'm honestly i'm i'm finding it so tough this is a tough project

that we're on mate and i'm calling it a project i don't know if that's an over ambitious description of what we've got ourselves into trap it's a con it's a constantly evolving beast but anyway so his career can i take a stab and then you tell me the right answer yeah was it soundtracking was he a hollywood soundtracker for movies it's notrative. I don't know what the pay is for that, but I don't think that would be lucrative enough. No, he's not that. I'll give you three guesses now, too. A director of films?

No, not a director of films. A casting agent of movies? Getting warmer. You keep going, you're getting closer. That's it, You tell me. Well, I thought it was going to be a screenwriter. I don't know why. He was a talent agent.

He was a top Hollywood talent agent. That's basically what I said. You said casting. What's the difference? Well, casting agent makes it sound like he's in charge of casting films. well casting agent makes it sound like he's in charge of casting films a talent agent makes it sound like he's in charge of the talent touche monty touche um an airtight argument i'm throwing at you absolutely so how like does it kind of reference how rich he was like how much money did he not it doesn't and i found out so much information i pretty much read the whole plot

i actually read the plot but that they all reunite there were five in the first one Rob Schneider was like the same level

as the others in the first one Rob Schneider turned his nose up at the second one and they won a basketball tournament in 1978

that team so Chris Rock Kevin James David Spade Adam Sandler and Rob Schneider and their coach died

and so they all reunited at lake house um to to mourn the coach and then they all learned heaps about themselves and their families and sort of and it had like it had norm mcdonald in the first movie and someone else and like they they lost a lot of good people out there and grown-ups and grown-ups too. Schneider's a great man. There's no getting around it. Well, you know, it's a weird feeling. You know he's Buddhist, eh? He's hardcore Buddhist. I've interviewed him once, long form, for like 20 minutes.

Was he a good guy? He's kind of weird, to be honest. He's pretty freaky, but he's nice enough. But all of his answers were very kind of rote learned and pre-formed from chat shows that he does. I listened to his his wtf podcast with mark maron i thought it was great i've missed that one he used to be a dynamite stand-up apparently and i actually used to watch his movies i've watched the hot chick and the animal

more than once don't forget home alone too mate no one has ever played a hotel concierge like uh rob schneider but it's not his movie, Home Alone 2. That's Macaulay Culkin's. Well, he's a scene stealer, so it pretty much is his movie, I think you'll find. That would make this John Lovitz's movie that we just watched.

Correct. Or the baby's movie. Do you want to do your shining lights? Yeah, bro. It was the folio in the bus at the start. The folio? Yeah, the background sound of the kids. I thought it was very accurate. You thought that's what a bus sounds like i'm wearing i'm wearing headphones for the watch

this week to keep the noise down because it's the middle of the night and i've got flatmates so the sound was very important for me and i went shit that's some good folio on that bus scene that really does sound like teenagers on a bus that's good mine was it was actually it was a moment where chris rock did some really good acting because he doesn't do a lot of that in this movie uh he was pouring the you know how when he when he when his wife forgets their 20th anniversary and and he's like i'm gonna go full gangster i'm gonna have all this peps Pepsi at dinner and then so there's that shot of him at the

dinner scene and he's pouring two cans of Pepsi into a pitcher and he's smiling, the direction was obviously I want you to really like convey how happy you are to be eating not eating, having this Pepsi at dinner and he's got this look

on his face, which is just, it's so on the fucking nose for how happy he, you know, given the information we've received earlier in the film, he is to have the Pepsi. I would describe the look on his face, because I know it well, having seen the movie once or twice now, as childlike delight.

Like when you're a kid and you get something that you really have a hankering for like ice cream it was pure glee and I wanted to reach through the screen and pat him on the back like the whole after the take the director would have gone

that's a bye, we've done it I like to think maybe that was the last scene they shot and he goes that's a wrap everyone and Chris Rock's like thank fucking god because i had some fun on some days of this movie but just quietly between you and me dennis dennis's name the director i think this might be a dud but i how wrong you are yeah imaginary chris rock because the movie went on to make millions tens of millions millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Tens of millions.

Hundreds. The budget was 80. They made 230 million, didn't they? Oh, shit. Yeah, maybe right now I'll check that at some point. I feel like that's right. Hey, listen, I've stumbled onto something on this watch, Guy, and this is part of the reason why I was so excited about it,

because I started really getting in there so i'm really digging around and uh i've discovered that adam sandler has hidden in plain sight a metaphor a recurring motif um which is about his life within the confines of the film now you'll notice that a lot of people hit the water really hard in this movie there's the taylor laughton scene the initial scene with the frat boys where um all of our main characters have to strip naked and throw themselves off suicide 35 and they all hit the water hard suicide 35 off the top right 35 feet my mom did that jump when she was pregnant with me that's it that's the one um so they all have to like jump off and they all hit the water very

hard in different ways and then at the end of the film two more people hit the water really hard officer dante and shack and all of them if you'll notice flop onto the water and it made me think that it's a metaphor for the all the shit Adam Sandler's done, which have been critical flops, and some of them commercial flops, and how they hurt him. But the last thing that we see related to this, is Shaq, who pees in the water,

and just kind of accepts it, and feels really good about it, and I feel like that's a symbol for Adam Sandler, just being okay with the fact that his movies suck now so Shaq is but Shaq embodies this realization I tell you what he's like the final statement it's interesting to hear I'd say it's definitely something you wouldn't find before the 23rd watch it's something that hasn't occurred to me I um the good thing about having matt watch the movie with me was just just seeing him the occasional gifor a genuine gifor uh at certain moments he laughed when the the the baby goes oh

that's cold which sort of made me realize that that is actually funny because james acaster thought that was a good bit too oh yeah get to see the first time because it's so unexpected that a kid that small could deliver a line so well. Yeah. Another thing which made the movie slightly more tolerable is I took something called snus. Have you heard of snus before, Tim? Is it a drug, Guy? In a sense, it's tobacco.

It's a Scandinavian, I think it's Swedish. They give you tobacco in these little pouches. It's a little pouch. I'm holding one up on screen now. You can't see it at home, but Tim, you can see that little pouch? Yeah, it's very small. It's about the size of your thumb. You put it between your gum and your lip,

and it sort of gives a slow release of tobacco it stings quite a lot at first but it becomes very relaxing and so I've just put one in so I might become slightly more relaxed through the second part of this what are you doing bro? I'm just getting by

I'm just trying to get through a day I want a holiday you've resorted to tobacco abuse nicotine addiction to get you through the podcast mate No Well yes in a sense

but only while I'm here in Denmark and by the way Denmark's beautiful if you're curious I was and thank you Yeah now you go no you go tell me about Copenhagen tell me about your beautiful paradise holiday well it's funny because I it is genuinely a beautiful paradise holiday but you only get to see me at my lowest ebb so it sounds like it's ringing hollow when I tell you how much I like it because it always

comes on the back of watching this fucking movie don't get me wrong it's not that when I tell you how much I like it because it always comes on the back of watching this fucking movie. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't believe you, it's that I'm insanely jealous that you're in Europe and I'm in the middle of a grey land flat freezing cold at night under the duvets, watching grown-ups turn on a 100-inch screen by myself. Yeah, I was really pleased

that you wanted to do it. I was impressed actually that you did it this late. I did it for the people. Do that you did it this late. I did it for the people. Do you think doing it this late at night impacted your watching? You know how your brain sort of changes?

It's going to impact work that I've got tomorrow morning at 9am. I don't give a fuck about your work. I know you don't. Because you know late at night your brain goes kind of loopy.

You've got a different brain from what you do during the day. Definitely. Do you think that contributed to your happiness? Oh definitely. Absolutely. Can I read you some of the gaffes that they've put

on IMDB like they're ludicrous they're ludicrous you can do this have we noticed them before some of them no but there's like okay this is the first one the first time Kurt and first of all they call him Kurt a name which Chris Rock is

never given in the film if it's taken in isolation away from the first one. So it starts, the first time Kurt drives the Ford van, it makes the starter and transmission sounds of a Dodge Caravan. The second time, the exhaust sounds like a four-cylinder engine, even though the van has eight cylinders. Well, I noticed that. i just didn't think it was worth bringing up it is so deep and that is the first one that's the first area that's on there other ones include um apparently shaq's radio on his shoulder during the first encounter swap sites i would have liked i would have liked to have noticed that one organically without the help of the internet this is my favorite bro. This one's so good.

The title belt worn by quote-unquote Hulk Hogan at the 80s party was in fact the WCW world title known as the Big Gold Belt. This would not have been the belt worn by Hogan in that time period as he was the WWF champ and their world title was the famous Winged Eagle.

So they got the belt wrong on the costume on the lady coming as hot that could be a very specific sort of character facet to that that lady that maybe she got it wrong not so the movie didn't get it wrong with the characters in the movie got it wrong so i think we should probably if we do get our fingers in there on this IMDb page and make some changes, I think we should delete that goof. Fair enough. Because that was probably, I feel like this movie was approached with the care and detail that that was an important character point.

Tell you what they don't have on there listed under continuity is your great raft call. That the raft changes in many shots. The raft is a hot mess right throughout certainly is like they never really got a good grip on the continuity to do with that raft and the other one for me a biggie is the the school bus stops outside the window when nick flies into that small shop building thing you can see it it's ground to a halt which is physically impossible at that kind of speed. Why? Is it?

Yeah. Maybe it's just got good brakes. No, no. It's like completely stationary directly outside where he skipped out. It cannot be done, mate. Because I've never noticed that as a flaw in the movie. I'm so absorbed in Nick's roly-poly.

And you would be. And you would be. I'll tell you what as well, man.'s roly-poly. And you would be, and you would be. I'll tell you what as well, man, I know that we say a lot about how shit the background fighting is in the party scene, but I saw stuff tonight that I'd never seen before. Like,

there's so many people who, um, someone walks up to someone and grabs their hand to put on their head to grab their hair. And like, just it's so shit, man. There's some really bad stuff going on.

When we were walking, um, back to the apartment yesterday, we walked past a bar on the street here that they were shooting some sort of music video. Um, like there were a whole lot of sort of young people who looked like that. We walked past

to go to to go to breakfast and then a couple of hours later when we were walking back they were on break and Matt made the good point that he'd love to be doing a music video just to see like after 10 takes they have to provide the same energy and excitement as though they're just getting to the party or the party's still popping off even though the people who are acting like the party's going well are exhausted yeah and I think this is the exact problem we ran into with that fight scene because there's so much fighting to choreograph and i assume i mean they're actors but they might not have gone to the fight training and so i guess it just took so long that the people were just so fucking tired and dennis dugan was so tired and they just wanted

to shoot that chris rock scene so they could wrap the whole film i love that you've now attributed that as being the last thing that they shot because it was kind of good it was the last thing i really remember yeah i've got nothing left to say about this movie right now guy montgomery i don't know how much more can be said about grown-ups too but we'd better think of something because we've got another, how many, almost 30, 29 episodes. Hey,

that feels nice. We've, we've dipped under the ominous up 30 views to go. Next stop, 50% complete, mate. But, um, as,

as I think we may have brought up in the last podcast, it's going to get progressively harder each time. So like 50% isn't 50% because the more we watch it, the harder this gets. 50% will be at about 70% done. I think we should start counting backwards. So I think 20 goes, I've said this before, I'll say it again. We get up to 26

and then we go 26, 25, 24 because then it's sort of, it's counting down to freedom. Freedom! I was all right this time but I'm really fucking worried about the next one. Really worried.

Well, I'm going to have to watch this because we've still got one owing so I'm going to have to watch this twice or we've still got one owing, so I'm going to have to watch this twice or thrice in Copenhagen. It's a crying shame. Jesus Christ. Danish people are so good looking. Yeah? Holy shit, yeah.

All the dudes and all the ladies are all just attractive. That's good. They're fucking tall, eh? And everything runs well here. This is a great... They've figured a lot of stuff out here in Denmark. Do you know it was voted the most livable city, Copenhagen? Two years running, according to some survey.

So what's the downside? It's also been the best cycling city for the last three years. They've got these huge cycle lanes on the side of the road, which are almost the size of a road. Just populated by these attractive cycling beauties. Yeah, they all take really good care of themselves. The downside, I don't know, the downside I suppose would, I mean, in theory you'd probably say it's the winter.

It gets dark, sort of very, it's always dark pretty much. Taxes? Taxes high there? Is it expensive living? Taxes are high but everyone's getting the benefits healthcare for one and all You're a commie guy, that's why you're loving Copenhagen, your home your home and your Marxist paradise, you've found it

I am I'd live here happily, in fact I'm going to go I'm leaving this podcast, I'm going to go out into the street We should all leave, I should go to bed. You should go to Copenhagen. I don't see... Why don't we all go our separate ways? I don't see any of these conversations working out for me.

All right, mate. I'll see you at the next watch. Pray for us. Okay. God. Thank you.