The Worst Idea Of All Time - Family Time 8
Episode Date: January 8, 2024It's been a while and the boys are brimming with news; Tim is going to be a dad, again! Guy is engaged to be married! It is amazing what you learn when you catch up with Family™. A report from CNN p...ours further gasoline on the Rock's intentions to run for President, emails, tweets and Instagram messages are checked, but the real pièce de résistance is a Masters Degree graduate who travelled to the Wynn Casino in Las Vegas to write their final piece on the interpretation of Fine Art through Paul Blart Mall Cop 2.Get event and livestream tickets for the TWIOAT 10th Anniversary Special at worstideaofalltime.com! On Feb 10th, exactly a decade after Tim and Guy's first viewing of Grown-Ups 2, the boyz return to Adam Sandler's 2013 opus for a night of reflection, revelry and regret at the Q Theatre in Auckland.Harry’s awesome Chrome extension can be found at http://tinyurl.com/twioatbatteryGet episodes early and in bee-you-tiful video form by supporting our Substack! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's the worst idea, it's the worst idea of all time
It's the worst idea, it's the worst idea of all time
Family time?
It's been a while Yeah, I mean, how are you? It's been a hot minute How are you? Yeah, good I'm fine announce that really haven't done like the big especially the facebook post or something oh i see haven't done one of those i literally just keep kind of like forgetting that that's
something you're supposed to do this is beautiful you don't have you don't owe that information to
anyone yeah i know it's nice to find out this way i knew for reference you've known for quite a while
yeah so but people listening might not yeah um the The baby is due in March. It's really exciting.
It's exciting stuff.
How do you feel about it?
Great.
Our little family's growing.
Yeah.
How does Remy feel about it?
He's pretty pumped.
He's pretty cute about it.
Remy's as sweet as it gets right now.
He is.
He's peak cute.
Is he tantrum?
Yeah.
He'll throw his weight around.
But, you know, you're two.
That's what you do.
Well, yeah.
Just give him a wide berth.
Yeah.
Make sure he doesn't, you know, the knives he's he takes after his father he's a bit of a knife guy really yeah he loves the knife is it is it dangerous to let a two-year-old near knives or
is it incredibly safe it's exciting they learn how to be safe around it's exciting to let a two-year-old
around knives it's not not exciting. Exactly.
Well, that's great.
I've got news.
Yeah.
I proposed to Chelsea.
Yes, you did.
We're engaged to be married.
Woo.
Yeah.
That is huge.
Yeah, I know.
And really cool.
Look at our lives go.
They're rocketing along, Tim.
They sure are.
You couldn't look more tired about it.
I'm tired.
You're hungover. I am.
I had a huge weekend.
Guy was nominated for...
This sounds like I'm making it up.
I'm sorry, but just in the context of our podcast listeners,
this will sound fake, but it isn't.
Guy was nominated for Television Personality of the Year
in the New Zealand TV Awards.
And the awards were last night.
That's right.
And you know who took it home aisha scott from below deck you could have leaned on i yeah um she's lovely
and a huge congratulations i get a good vibe off here she seems like a good sort met her met her
in person she's a delight happy to be nominated oh? Honestly, it's just an honor to be nominated
and to be amongst such esteemed company.
I already feel like a winner.
Was it fun?
The TV Awards?
Maybe.
It's our Emmys.
You went to our Emmys last night.
I know.
I presented an award.
What did you present?
They sort of like, you punch through a few.
It was Best Editing, Documentary or Factual,
Best Editing Comedy, Best Script Drama,
Best Script Comedy, and one other one.
Were you all right with the names?
Yeah.
That's what I would always be nervous about.
I think where they got it wrong is that
because it went really long last year, the awards,
and this year they took out reading the nominations names.
It was just the winner.
Don't do that.
And it kind of took the magic out of it a little bit
because it's like you're basically,
it's erasure for like two-thirds of the people there
because every category had three nominees.
And so anyway.
No, I mean, it was fun.
Chelsea was in great form.
I think I was I was also
Spelling Bee was nominated
For one
And I think
It was a series
It wasn't like
I wasn't just showing up
For the fun
I had a series of responsibilities
And investments in it
And so
You were emceeing
Your friend's wedding
Yeah
It's a different
It's a different wedding
It's a different thing
But I mean
You know
Life is beautiful
Feeling grateful
It's summer here in New Zealand And and um i mean on paper it's all right today it's gonna be good for
ages now really yeah i asked apple oh sick all right you wanna see yeah i do i'll show you and
then we'll get into it okay look at this oh i'm liking the look of those numbers. A lot of 21s.
That's centigrade for our North American friends.
No rain?
I bless the lack of rain.
Pure sun.
Here in New Zealand.
Look, first things first.
Yeah.
Instagram DM, at Twio at pod.
Okay.
Tim's vision is manifesting.
This is the link.
I got a visit from the parties asking me if I was going to run and if I could run.
Wow.
And it wasn't a big deal and it came out of the blue.
Wow.
Would The Rock have a shot?
Oh, gosh, yes, Brianna.
Absolutely.
I mean, look, we are in the middle of a huge populist moment in this country.
The average American is sick of our politics.
They think our politics is broken.
They're sick of both parties.
Somebody from outside of the political world like him would definitely have a shot.
Both parties, Brianna, recognize that most Americans don't want this matchup.
Biden, Trump. Oh, my God. That that most Americans don't want this matchup. Biden-Trump.
Oh my God, that makes most Americans just roll their eyes.
They're turned off by it.
Yeah, this probably would be the cycle to do it.
It is very funny to me to hear, I'm assuming an entertainment reporter
gleefully report that America is in the middle of a big populist movement right now.
That's a worry, guys.
I don't think that is the great news you think it is.
Oh, boy.
But, yeah.
Listen, it's going to happen sooner or later.
That man's going to be president.
How do you feel about it?
How do you feel about The Rock having the nuke codes not my problem hey frosty fellas it's been about four months but i've been
about four months behind on the pod and just wrapped up episode eight of season six battery
life in this ep you discuss how apple should display the battery life of their products in
terms of how many watches of the various twirwet films you can squeeze out of one charge i thought
this would be
a great idea for a chrome extension and it's now available on the chrome web store i hope it brings
you a little joy uh if there are other electronic manufacturers who would like to have it would
like to have added to the extension feel free to shoot me a message and then there's a link to the
chrome extension to the chrome extension that's harry from bean town via facebook on june the 14th editors editors note because um
thank you to brendan our editor for putting this together uh this extension still works and harry
just updated it as of the 27th of november oh wow bean town is boston for those of you oh i didn't
know that non-american so i think brendan has
loaded this onto his phone and uh and and it's got that up to all day battery up to 8.3 watches
of sex in the city of battery life that's amazing that's great i've got an update um
it's from a while ago But so
We read this initially
When the family time was the friend zone
Which was
Someone saying they're going to watch Groundhog Day
Every single day for a year
Yes I remember that
Then there was a follow up
That I don't know was addressed
Okay
Hey fellas
Appreciate the concern This is the person watching Groundhog Day Okay. Hey, fellas.
Appreciate the concern.
This is the person watching Groundhog Day.
I want to show you, this is after 47 viewings.
I do want to reassure you both that 47 viewings in,
I'm still going strong and feeling fine.
It has, however, given me newfound appreciation for what you two have done over these past few years.
Having a movie I love become so omnipresent in my life
feels strange and oftentimes taxing.
I can only imagine what it must be like to have a bad movie,
that kind of mental bandwidth.
Slow it down, guy.
Well, no, because this is the one I want to get to.
Oh, okay.
Was that 47?
Yeah.
Wow.
This is a long time later.
This is from August this year on Twitter DMs.
Okay.
Follow up to my follow up,
as I've now long since completed the project
it sucked ass and i should have taken your advice it was unironically the hardest thing i've ever
done now i've watched groundhog day 365 times which is a weird thing to be proud of but i am thank you for the warning even if i
didn't listen and thank you for the year of entertainment your show provided between
increasingly painful viewings of groundhog day repeat my name if you want jake van gundy p.s
fuck bill murray and um if you want to follow this person
on Twitter
yeah they've earned this
at e underscore e
underscore Eugene
is Eugene spelt
E-U-G
E-N-E
just unbelievable stuff
that's really wild
a groundhog day a day is no way to live.
No, no, no, no.
I'm glad.
Do you know what?
Horrible that it happened.
It was, I think Jake can even recognize a pretty silly ambition to pursue.
But I'm glad that Jake still got the presence of mind in the wake of it to go
that was dumb because some other people might do it and be like it this changed my life it shows
it shouldn't it's something like that should not everything need not everything you do that's hard
should change your life i'm glad you think it would change your life and that it would advertise
i think a level of resolve which is sort of almost unusual.
Like, I think any normal person would use their, you know,
they would bail out.
I think any normal person at any point, I think say if you got over,
like, you know, I think there are several bailout points.
I think 50 is a bailout point. I think 50 is a bailout point.
I think 100 is a bailout point.
I'd say, obviously, I think 132 or 133,
like half a year is a bailout point.
Yeah, 150 definitely.
Definitely.
200 definitely.
Once you cross 250, I think you have to finish.
But you've got 250 opportunities before then to not do that.
It's just so many.
We're going back to June and the year is 2022.
This is actually to deathblart.
Do you want that?
Sure.
Do you know what?
These flies, man. We've got some loud flies. They might even be being picked up on do you have the spray thing do you believe in that what like raid yeah but the one that the
automated one oh yeah we do get those out for summer yeah we believe in them they do work
yeah i believe in them i just like because they're bad for you well this is what people say but i'm
like it's so incremental and everything's bad for me.
How could it not be?
It's a thing that when it gets into contact with an insect, it kills it.
I don't know how it could be fine, you know?
I'm not an insect.
There's no way that's fine.
Don't call me an insect.
But you're putting it inside your body.
Not drinking it.
Hello and kia ora.
My name is Zoe.
I'm going to leave the last name out for now
because I don't want someone to accidentally dox themselves.
That's probably the first time I've shown any restraint in that.
I am a recently graduated art history master's student
from the University of California, Supervine.
Wrote my lengthy thesis on Chinese New Zealand migrant documentation from the early 20th, Ruvine, wrote my lengthy thesis, on Chinese New Zealand,
migrant documentation,
from the early 20th century,
fascinating,
but more importantly,
I'm a long time listener,
and fan,
of Till Death Do Us Blart,
I think,
that's not more important,
I agree,
I am in,
oh wait,
where are we,
sorry,
in my last quarter,
as a grad student, I took a seminar course, wait, where are we? Sorry. In my last quarter as a grad student,
I took a seminar course entitled Simulacral Spaces
and focused on the theming, architecture, history,
and entertainment of Las Vegas.
Naturally, Paul Blart 2 was on the mind
when it came to final paper topics.
I eventually molded my paper into an examination
of Steve Wynn's art collection and its surrounding publicity
that played up associations between art,
quote-unquote high culture,
money,
and moral reformation,
with a lengthy analysis of Paul Blart 2's art heist framing.
More to the point,
I wrote it within the span of 24 hours in a haze of delirium and with
the aim to get as many laughs from my professor as possible wow this was the last paper i wrote
to complete my degree and was also by far the most entertaining in preparation for this project i
watched paul blart 2 for the first time and experienced a fraction of the pain and suffering
that you have doomed yourself for the rest of your lives. I also, I forget that it's forever.
Do you know what?
If we could just digress inside of this email.
I was talking with someone about it recently
and I think that podcast
is a far greater or more intense for me inflection point
on life and a demarcation of time than
birthdays or new years i think nothing makes me reflect upon my mortality more than till death
in progress hopefully through your life yes certainly but i think i i more see the reflected
progress of the lives of the people around me like you and the McElroys
my life I don't reflect
on so much in that because
it's just constantly happening to me
but there's something about
the age of the children who are
around the podcast
going up by a number you know like
33 to 34 or 34 to 35
who gives a shit? that's tiny
26 to 33 who gives a flying fuck
yeah but like two to three yeah it's crap it's it's honestly like i i left the record this year
and i just thought i thought about death and not an unhealthy way but in a like a quite a um
quite a pleasantly reflective way the whole drive home.
Wow.
It's really like it is really doing something
to my perspective in relationship to death.
That is really fascinating.
I know.
It's crazy.
I would obviously have never seen it coming.
It is one of the stupidest decisions we've made,
and through it, it is one of the stupidest decisions we've made and it is like um and through it it is
forcing like a perspective shift or a reflection that would not otherwise exist in my life i think
that's beautiful um i'm just finding where i'm up to here i also took an academic pilgrimage to the
win las vegas and search are you serious and searched that is pretty big isn't it
searched in vain they're in california oh yeah so i guess it's a mish but it's not it's not for me
crazy um searched in vain for the garden of serenity although i did uh it's sorry i'd hate
to be that guy i'm pretty sure it's called The Garden of Contemplation. Is it?
I don't know, man.
I think it is.
But I mean, you are literally the academic,
so I don't know.
Although I did see quite a few of the other sites immortalized
in the cinematic crime against humanity
known as Paul Blackmore Cop 2.
I've attached the final product
for your enjoyment.
And in case you ever find yourself running out of ways
to analyze this horrible, horrible film.
And we've got a link here.
Can I read the first and last paragraph?
Yeah.
I'd love for you to do that.
It's loading up via Google Docs.
Thanks for sending this in, Zoe.
Pick my...
Oh, didn't you have to pick a name?
I went with Tim.
Cool. The doc doc by the way
for those interested is called paper blaper 2 we're off to a good start civilizing sin city
steve wins art collection and las vegas
it opens with a quote windish insens, it's about the art.
Paul Blart, Mall Cop 2.
In 1998, a Vanity Fair article introduced Steve Wynn's art collection
to the public with all the sensationalism
befitting one of the most successful developers of the strip.
Quote, with sources drying up and prices skyrocketing,
it would seem an insane ambition to build a major collection
of 19th and 20th century masterpieces,
but Steve Wynn has defied the odds to present Las Vegas with a monument to serious culture.
Wynn, the founder of several Las Vegas casino resorts,
including the Mirage, Treasure Island, Bellagio, and Wynn Las Vegas,
turned to art collecting shortly before the decline of the Strip's love affair
with Disneyland-esque attractions that appealed to middle-class families
and subverted Vegas' reputation as Sin City.
In place of Disneyfication, new developments on the strip, such as the Bellagio, Paris,
Las Vegas, and the Venetian, simulated a European architectural heritage, adapting to the ever-changing
tastes and trends of the city.
Winry fashioned his image as Walt Disney's heir to high-class cultural sophisticate,
and his heavily publicized art
collection was an integral part of this image wow it goes on obviously and on and on and on and on
and on and on and on i didn't realize it was so steeped in truth of the real world that we live
in i thought they were just doing a grab bag of like here's a casino it would work if there were
art on the walls but like steve winn
actually has all this art it never occurred to me that's right now to the i don't know anything
about steve to the final paragraph until now the art indifferent protagonist of paul blart
more cop 2 is a notable exception to the win art collections publicity which frequently prejudice
the transformational quality of high art the The 1998 Vanity Fair article penned for the opening of the Bellagio declares that
winners determine that visitors to the Bellagio Gallery should at long last encounter
authentic masterpieces face-to-face and become born-again art lovers like himself.
The article likens museum-going to a much-needed spiritual conversion
in a city often scapegoated for moral and cultural degeneration.
The transformational narrative of the high art encounter echoes to the transformational
narrative of Las Vegas as a whole, although the old axiom claims that what happens in Vegas stays
in Vegas, the city is known for its ability to change fortunes, leaving a lucky few richer than
when they arrived, and many more poorer. Art collecting, too, has glamorized aspects of
transformational risk that liken it to high stakes gambling articles,
publicizing wins collection can't resist the easy puns like playing to win and
wins greatest gamble.
As an art historian,
I underwent my own transformation in Las Vegas.
I arrived in the city with two of my best friends and slowly came to feel a
burning hatred towards them for their luck at the slot machines and my
comparable failure.
I left the city with two enemies for better or for worse
vegas is a space of change both in its constant demolishing and rebuilding and in its core
transformational narrative steve wins art collection situates itself within this flux and flow
another shiny attraction on the strip that could outlive its usefulness at any moment and then all
of the things that are footnoted are visual references,
many of which include screencaps from Kevin James as Paul Blart Mall Cop interacting with art inside of the museum.
Congratulations to you, Zoe,
for finding a really interesting topic to talk about during your studies
and having such a great sort of tone and turn of phrase.
I know, it's very impressive inside of an academic thing, yeah.
They're normally so dry and shitty.
So that's awesome.
We've got time for one more?
Well, this one's just a link and I'll put the subject line.
I think I can guess what this is.
Paddy Schwartz, new role.
This was in mid-June of last year.
Paddy Schwartz, he's actually enjoying a pretty solid
run it makes me so nervous bro but i'm terrified why because i kept saying to people i keep
forgetting i have a tattoo and then i remember i have a tattoo of patrick schwarzenegger and i keep
like having this conversation with people i'm like it's crazy to me that people get tattoos
of celebrities particularly men men, because like
anything could happen. They could be
doing bad things.
Horrible things that come out later.
I don't know what the fuck Paddy Schwartz is up to,
but his career is experiencing a real uptick
and that makes me real nervous
that it's going to end in similar
circumstances with a cancelling.
And he's itched on
my buttock. He's nowched on my buttock he's now
surrounded on my buttock
he's like there's all
sorts of shit going on on
there now on your ass
yeah should I show it to
one of the cameras for the
sub stack yeah is that
nice yep Brendan the
editor I'm gonna you you
know you've got discretion
as to oh no he's doing it
in a good way i think that's good
just get a nice zoom in on there here we go the article is arnold schwarzenegger didn't know his
son was starring in the boys franchise so gen v i think it's called has come out and uh i think
people like it i've been meaning to watch it for a while
but I haven't had the time
but I look forward to watching it.
It's too much to watch.
And I really look forward to Paddy
maybe getting out of acting
so that we can just call our jets,
find a nice office job
and not bother anyone.
You know, I still, you know,
I've still got a line to him on Twitter,
now X,
and I keep thinking about leaving.
Is he the thing holding you there?
Legitimately, one of the few things that keep me there is like,
Fair enough.
But I've got to hit him up.
We've got to have that beer.
Yeah, he's bigger than he was, though.
It was a maybe before.
I think now it's a very heavy maybe.
No.
You don't think?
Got to have that beer.
All right, everyone.
Well, stay tuned for our beer with Paddy Schwartz
coming up at some point in the future
when Guy uses his online relationship.
We've got to be in LA, I think.
Unless he comes from New Zealand.
I should have missed saying,
if you're ever in New Zealand, hit me up.
We'll go for that beer.
Can I just say something to everyone listening?
Thanks for listening.
Yeah, you can say that.
Hey, thanks for listening.
I really appreciate it. Anything for me? Thanks for being here, man. everyone listening thanks for listening yeah you can say that hey thanks for listening i really
appreciate it anything for me um thanks for being here man it's always real nice to hang out with
you anything for you me to me i'd like to say hey man you're doing all right no no keep up the
waters keep your head up you've inspired me to hydrate you're always hydrating yeah it was from
that book which i read like
one third of atomic habits same one of the funniest books to not finish i don't think
anyone's finished that book which is deeply ironic but anyway on the 15th of december we've got a
live show you've probably heard about it at the start of this pod um this is me reminding you it
exists check the show notes uh join our sub stack Join us live streaming for the episode if you're in Auckland.
Come to the Hollywood Avondale.
Watch Fast and the Furious in the cinema.
See us converse afterwards.
Have a beer.
Enjoy your life.
See ya.
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