The Worst Idea Of All Time - Fifty Five - Kind Eric

Episode Date: September 27, 2017

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This episode of the worst idea of all time is sponsored by dollarshaveclub.com Go to dollarshaveclub.com slash worst idea You're gonna play that dastardly intro again Ow! This movie's still fine This is a cully bastard One of them dies, that guy's a screw One of them's a hothead, his name is Jay

One of them looks like Johnny Depp And his name is Johnny Depp Classic Maximum Joseph Agree! Ah! His name is J. One of them looks like Johnny Depp, and his name is Johnny Depp. Classic Maximum Joseph. Agree! Ah! You forget that films are supposed to have a point. And here it is.

It is the German version of the movie, so the titles aren't in English, but this is We Are Your Friends with no dialogue. Only background, audio foley, and music cues. I also put up a subtitle track. I just downloaded one, so there might be some mistakes. On the off chance that you actually want to watch it. For a movie whose only memorable parts, sorry, I'm reading from a screen that is literally four meters away. For movies only memorable parts, the music, the second act is mostly just people sitting and talking with nothing else going on.

Art rights listener Eric Falsch, who kindly went to a huge, a tremendous amount of trouble. This is several months ago now, Tim. And re-edited and graded We Are Your Friends to turn it into sort of a um i mean a genuine art house movie black and white yeah black and white monochrome feature film with scarce dialogue no dialogue it was quite an experience well you say that yeah but actually kind eric as he will forever be known on the podcast kind eric included some choice cuts for us so out of nowhere for example when james reed from the feelers gifts the may have gotten a little sentimental the dialogue comes in out of nowhere and and it's there were a few it was akin to how i feel the audience must have felt going to see the wizard

of oz at the big screen where everything's in black and white and suddenly, you know, open the gates and we're looking at Oz and color envelops the cinema and it's like, oh my God, I forgot this was possible. There's a lot of beautiful little flourishes. So first of all, I'd like to say to you, Eric, a huge thank you. Kind Eric. Kind Eric.

And thank you so much for taking the time to do this and send it to us and then also ensure that we followed through like uh because the next message is a link to the google drive where he'd uploaded the file and then like a month later after we'd said that we would watch it he was like hey guys i think you mentioned you might watch this just so you know it's taken up a lot of space on my Google Drive. So if you're going to, please do it. I downloaded it. It took us several months, but here we are.

And what welcome respite from the, you know, the ordinary, you know, colorful clusterfuck that is a screening of We Are Your Friends. For this, our 55th watch, truly a breath of fresh air. It was amazing. It really was amazing. It was so much more palatable because it was like watching a different film. And I mean, look, we've got to say this up top, full credit to those Foley artists on this film.

A lot of footsteps, a lot of sloshing in the pool. They really, the crashing waves, they did their work. Well, I felt like we learned quite a lot as well about what they would record just through booms or radio Well, I felt like we learned quite a lot as well about what they would record just through booms or radio mics, I guess. There's a lot of doors shutting in a movie.

I always assumed that that would be a separate sound effect. Some of them were and some of them weren't. Sometimes they use a genuine door slamming from the scene

and then other times they just dub in a different door slamming. What Guy's talking about is all premised on. I was scratching my head the whole time going, from you know the scene and then other times they just dub in a different door slam what guys talking about is all premised on like i i was scratching my head the whole time going how the fuck has kind eric done this how has he pulled this off how do you scrub all the dialogue out of a film but keep all of the sound effects and soundtrack like i don't understand and i've got a theory about it but i don't know if it's true or not so we're sort of based on a good head well i think what's happened is on like a say a blu-ray

release of a film there's different language tracks right so you can probably take all of them off somehow if you can kind of crack open that that blu-ray and then you're just left with the sound effects and the soundtrack um but then there were like german versions of one of the one of the songs well i don't know no no the songs were the same well i don't know one of them was in german i've never noticed there being a german song before but obviously the songs really come to the fore when there is no dialogue for them to hide behind yeah another one of the things eric, which was even more Wizard of Oz-like. Thank you, guys, computer. Hey, sick.

I've got an email. I downloaded that, I would say, five years ago, and I literally have no idea how to turn it off. You've got mail sound effect. Is it not some Mac thing? Is that something you set up I put that in as a plug in

and I cannot for the life of me figure out what to do but yeah so at the very end when he

Cole plays Cole's song and somehow all of these PCP adult teens go wild in their American apparel

parking lot all of the memories all the sound effects that he drew from that he recorded on his shitty Samsung S3 or whatever, would come up in colour. Yeah. I mean, it's these minor details which truly set, you know, a kind Eric apart from a regular Eric. What it shows you is Eric was really,

kind Eric was really thinking of the boys when he was doing this, you know? This wasn't for anyone, this wasn't for anyone. This wasn't just for any old person. This was specifically for the boys. The boys are you and I. Yeah.

I'd love to know how labor-intensive it was. I mean, he spent several hours on it and I believe him wholeheartedly. I reckon it was longer. Yeah,

I think so too. He sort of deliberately understated so that we wouldn't be like, this guy's a maniac. But we would never say that about Kind Eric. Oh, you goddamn lunatic. There's only one word for Eric.

Kind. Kind. Man, I mean, it's just a different film. All the characters come across much better when you don't hear their thoughts. You know, like I didn't resent anyone. I don't resent anyone.

Yeah, it was. Yeah, I yeah i know hey what was interesting is uh i don't know if this was a decision that it still felt long yeah that's for sure but um old uh uh page page's speech was left in which i loved so it's just like music music music, music. All my life. Yeah. It was good. I do not rely on anything that's in my life. I do not rely on anything that is not concrete. That was a good page. All of the text that came up was in German.

Which made me feel right at home. Yeah. Because you're used to that German rip when I'm not with you, eh? Yeah. I deleted all the movies off my computer to free up some space and accidentally included We Are Your Friends. Wow. Shit happens happens doesn't it Yeah So I always have to rent a copy legally

Yeah we'll go with that And play it on my MacBook Air Which has a Blu-ray or a DVD drive Obviously It always happens to be a German version Every single time Well you know the only video stores that are still operating are German Run. Yeah, that's true.

Because they're efficient. And also, you know, they make you sign a contract when everyone's signed up with them in the 90s or whatever. And they're binding. They are very difficult to get out of. You're not wrong. No. Except that you are completely wrong never wrong this film this week was um yeah it was it was kind of like watching a different what was it's a whole different

movie going experience i articulated it as if if you were to see it uh it's like if you're in an art gallery and you walk into a room and they're playing a black and white film with real scant audio yeah and there's two other people in there sitting down like they know what's happening and then you're like oh yeah i'll fucking go toe-to-toe with you guys and you sit down and watch for 10 minutes yeah this is super boring it was exactly what this was although not boring for us because we had such unique context for what we were watching we wanted to we wanted to play this in a movie theater yeah we tried to get the rights cleared with the um the the appropriate authorities but they were like nah dudes yeah no way absolutely not you're not playing some

altered version of it to a crowd and selling tickets for that we're like we'll give you money they're like don't you're not allowed to but i mean this is a this is a work of art it's a tremendous work of art and i think it's a labor of love from kind eric and i think that your analogy of the sort of art gallery experience is perfect because it was like you always get those very pretentious black and white it was probably shot on 35 millimeter needlessly and it's just got soundscape but no dialogue like this exactly was that thing. But, you know, when you have the context of what the original source material is, it's actually kind of cool.

In a way, this is, I mean, that sort of pretension is, I guess, probably closer to the movie that Maximum and Megan set out to make. What I want to ask you is this, though, Guy. This is a hard question to answer because it's a hypothetical but if you watched this version first versus the actual movie first like which one do you think is better because i'm i'm sort of leaning towards the black and white one it might be colored by the fact i've seen the other one 50 no it's not colored actually Tim it's black and white lol well it is coloured

by the colour version I I think if I saw this first I would be frustrated because I would want to know some of what's

happening that's art baby you know what I mean that's art art is about asking the question once you make a piece who what where why

and how oh that's journalism yeah well that's like learning how to read or something and when you're four anyway sounds right uh no i think like uh we you know once you make something and you put it out into the world that's no longer yours that's for anyone to take from it what they will and there's certainly more scope and opportunity as an audience member to draw your own conclusions from the black and white it's like seeing a horror movie right where if you don't see the monster it's always way scarier in your head

because it will always be the scariest version of your own personal take on it and then when they show you it's like oh okay that's kind of terrifying but less than what i thought are there any instances where the monster that the movie machines, or that the movie makers could show you that you were like, okay, do you know what? Full credit to you. That is more terrifying.

I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm not a huge horror guy. Like, I'm thinking Stranger Things. You know what one is the perfect example of it, though, is what was the alien movie with, what's his name? The antisemite mel gibson uh you know signs i think it's called and they show the alien at some like up until the point where they show it it's it's quite terrifying from memory i can't even remember i must have seen at some point you've got these big crop circles these big symbols

there's a little girl i think he's kind of seeing them or communicating with them or something and i think a couple of times you sort of see them shoot around a corner or something a little shadow of them which is always quite terrifying just out of your sight and then you actually see them you're like oh that's the fucking dude in a costume, isn't it? You know? You've blown it. You had a nice little movie going there, Mel, and you've blown it. That's not Mel. That's M. Night. Shyamalan-a-ding-dong. You've been Shyamalan.

Is that from something? I don't know. Probably. It must be. The way you said it suggested that it was. Yeah. Well, I just always think, you know, if something in your life goes the way

that you didn't expect it to, that's when you've been Shyamalan. Here's a fun question. What would the M. Night Shyamalan ending of We Are Your Friends be? Don't say Squirrel was dead the whole time

because that's already in a movie. No, it's that Squirrel faked his own death to get out of the friend group. Which I think we've speculated before.

Yeah, we have. Well, you've frequently put forward the fact that Santeria... Oh, no, that's you saying that he actually killed himself. Well, it could be either. But it's certainly the tipping point. That was an interesting one today because usually I started singing Santeria because I was ready for them to be singing Santeria. They were not singing.

It's just the sound of water gently laughing and four boys hugging yeah obviously you can't hear the boys hugging so peaceful but if you could it would sound like this and and is that water yeah that sounded scary slushy slushy water like a ghost the ghost of squirrel i reckon it would be that page harrell had instigated a very complex like scenario where he was making like he had destroyed the friend group by like um he made them turn on each other using different tools, right? Yeah. So he got Johnny Depp to get incredibly competitive at work with the other boys and made him chase a bonus or something. He performed psychological- Not a bonus.

A literal bone. A bone. Yeah. Only one person there can get the bone. Well, there's only one bone. The spirit wants the bone. So he's chasing the bone. There's only one bone.

Johnny Depp's competitive spirit wants the bone. So he's chasing the bone. Zeiss Fron is under psychological warfare by Patriot by taking him to these clients' houses and ripping them off while he's there and it's playing with his sense of empathy and he feels very sorry for these people and he can't reconcile the fact that this is what he does for a job now. And then with Jarhead, he just like fights him periodically because you know he's

such a hot head page does yeah yeah what about squirrel squirrel he just changed his computer because he's got a great head for no no this is why squirrel had to die right because squirrel saw what was happening that's why he tried to get out so you know when they have the speech at the sushi bar where he's like i'm looking for other jobs page had fucking wired them for sound like he was listening to them so he found out that screw was about to bail and he he offed him this is uh less like a twist and more like a sort of conspiratorial that's him not shamla this is bag it's usually a little more supernatural i think yeah his bag is always um all right and and page is a vampire yeah will that do yeah that's great pages of vampire you're kidding me if i was the uh the marketing team behind we

are your friends i would put that front and center yeah it'd be good actually it'd be like hey do you remember that movie that you loved with all the vampires what was it called again dracula was it called no the fucking teenage one uh teenage vampire jesus how quickly we forget hey that franchise was fucking huge what was it come on man the uh the the movies it was like three of them they were based on the books oh bloody uh twilight i kept thinking daylight it's like it's not called daylight Twilight Oh yeah Hey you remember daylight I mean twilight They were vampires eh Yeah yeah they were And werewolves Yeah

Hey you remember twilight Well this one's got Zayce Fron in it You all love Zayce Fron And you all love those vampires You've been crazy for them Was there any resurgence Of vampires

Beyond the twilight franchise Well I mean we had Buffy Yeah but that was before twilight Yeah Oh you mean after twilight Not that I know of Beyond the Twilight franchise? Well, I mean, we had Buffy. Yeah, but that was before Twilight. Yeah. Oh, you mean after Twilight? Not that I know of. Not that I can think.

Nah. That's crazy. I think there were a couple bites at the apple by different franchises to try and get in. TV's did it. Yeah. TV shows. Okay. Oh, no, there's more zombies. Because there was iZombie and...

No, there was like True Blood or something. That sounds like a vampire show. True Blood was a vampire show you're dead right actually you put the word blood in the title you better have a vampire

starring NZ Zone Anna Paquin can we still claim her I mean I don't know you and I can but the country of New Zealand she's been gone a long time

I know but we get you know we get so few of these things that we really have to hold them close she might be an American citizen now as well

because I think she's married to that lovely hold them close. She might be an American citizen now as well, because I think she's married to that lovely fella from the show. A pasteurized American citizen? Yeah, I believe that's the term. You've got to get in a spa pool and then jump in icy water, and then a priest says you are now American. When's the last time you poured yourself a nice cold glass of milk? Not as far away back as you would think. Probably a week.

A week? Yeah, yeah. I had a nice juicy two liters in the fridge. I was like, yep. Hard out. What could possibly lead you to have a hankering for a chilly glass of milk? I'm assuming calcium deficiency. I guess.

So your body was just aching out for... I was going, I need some good stuff straight from a cow. It's disgusting. You have milk in stuff. Straight from the cow titty. You have lots of stuff in stuff. You know, I don't just have cumin seeds

or whatever. Cumin. Or fuck some other spice. This is the problem. You don't cook guy No I don't Maybe if you did You would normalise

My drinking of milk I don't think Someone who likes To cook meals for themselves In their house Is uh You know I don't think There's necessarily

A positive correlation Between that and just Drinking milk by itself How would you know How would you know guy Because you're not In either camp I used to drink A lot of Choccy milk.

That's still weird. Choccy milk? Nothing weird about Choccy milk. That's effectively Coca-Cola without the fizz. No, it is weird. Why? Because it's still from a cow. The Choccy milk?

Yeah. Banana milk's weird. Banana milk is bizarre. It doesn't taste like bananas. The banana flavor, it's like chicken flavored shit. It doesn't taste like the thing you're purporting it to be. So I was staying with a friend of the podcast, Carlo Ricci, last week. And he was growing some herbs.

And he was growing a pineapple sage. And he'd make me go out. He made me do it three times while I was staying there. You go out, and you rub your fingers on one of the leaves of the pineapple sage, and you bring them to your nose, and you smell them. And it smells like, that is the flavor and smell they use for candy pineapple. Wow. Like pineapple lumps and stuff.

Yeah. Speaking of New Zealand classics. That is a classic. Pineapple lumps. My lumps. My lovely pineapple lumps Check it out The pineapple lumps advertising team really missed a trick then

Do you remember when the Black Eyed Peas released a song called Let's Get Retarded? Yeah man, I mean They really, they snuck a bass with that one didn't they? How? How can you possibly? Let's Get Stupid I was going to say it was a different time wasn't really wasn't that long ago i think they got vaguely called to account for that not enough is that

fergie man i tell you what the black eyed peas had some great songs without fergie and i've got a feeling fergie's got some great songs without the black eyed peas they're like in one of those destructive relationships you see that your friends in sometimes. You're like, you know what? She's fine. He's all right. But when they get together, oh my God, they bring out the worst in each other. Don't they?

They really do. But it was a lot of albums worth of bad relationship. They got a lot of money from it as well. Huge amount. Will.i.am's the problem, I think. Will.i.am. That guy is an idiot. Is he?

I'm going to put that on the record. Really? He is... He's a fucking nut bar. What? Why? He makes real dumb songs and calls himself a visionary because he rebrands smartwatches and shit.

He's... Fuck, man. More power to him. He's struck me as a fucking moron as long as I've seen him out in the world. If I had that sort of platform, I would also call myself a visionary. I'm doing it with less of a platform. You're calling yourself a visionary? Yeah.

Good on you. Every other moment. God bless you. Oh, man. Look, I got no beef with Will.i.am. I just think he's an idiot. That's fair enough. You know?

What was your shining light this week tim my black and white shining light was well to be honest it was it was hearing page give the speech because we hadn't had dialogue up until then except jarhead said something and i was trying to remember what it was but it was through music no there's a great a great a bit of dialogue snuck through when jarhead uh i'm gonna murder that cheesedick motherfucker on top of the hill, and his echo goes into the valley. It wasn't that bit. But then we heard the echo.

Yeah, the echo was there without the first bit. That was a treat. Not my shining light. My shining light was, what really put it over the top for me is it was like, boom, I'm hearing talking, boom, the important talking, it's page talking, and boom, boom, boom,

German titles, German text. Page talking, German text, black and white. Loved all of it. Beautiful silence afterwards. Loved all of it.

That is a good time. It's real cool. How about you? I really enjoyed, Guy Montgomery. I really enjoyed the splashing noise when, when jarhead

tackled hillary clinton into the looking pool oh yeah that was good that's a weird sentence hey yeah i enjoyed the splashing noise when jarhead tackled hillary clinton into the looking pool there's so much of this podcast which if you take it out of its context it's i mean it's it barely the whole thing isn't it? Yeah, it really is. We shouldn't be doing it anymore. I'll tell you that for free. If I've got one piece of advice to the two of us, it's don't do it anymore.

Five more screenings. It's not that many. Five screenings till freedom. Good God. Have you put your mind there yet? Thinking about a post-worst idea time? Not quite. I know that I will be very grateful to be unshackled

from this great and grave responsibility that we have thrust upon ourselves. But I also know that in a lifestyle that affords very few sort of rock solid um responsibilities responsibilities or or events or sort of just you know like uh that i will miss having constant yeah having some sort of weekly anchor yeah uh now you are a boy at drift. A drift. Yeah, that's what I meant to say. Unless I go to some cool bar called Drift, and it's all made of driftwood. You could start it.

And it's floating. No, I'm not going to start a bar. It's too much work. Yeah. God, I've just seen people lose so much money. Have you? From a far distance, yeah. How far? Very far back. Like 2Ks? From a far distance, yeah. How far?

Very far back. Like two Ks? Do you want me to move some stuff around? You look awkward. No, I look cool and casual. Yeah, what you can't see, listener, is that guy's sort of, he's having to crook his neck and contort his body

to adjust for very short. They think I'm a visionary. You don't need to paint a picture of my awkward body position. Maybe it's a visionary body position. That's the thing. You've got to mark it better, man. I'm a visionary. You don't need to paint a picture of my awkward body position. Maybe it's a visionary body position. That's the thing. You've got to mark it better, man. I'm in it.

This is not going to take off what I'm doing right now. Are you proud of what we've accomplished through this podcast? Yeah. I tell you, Tim, I'm feeling very positive right now. Yeah, that's good. And I was doing some reflecting in some of the quieter moments of the film namely like 75 of it uh and i am proud of what we've accomplished and this uh journey we've been on and all of our co-travelers who who've come along for the right

it truly has taken up a lot of our lives now like this thing has existed for a tenth of my life that i've been alive and in terms of adult life way more as a fraction well you're an adult 18 so what's that 12 years a quarter a quarter of that i've been doing this podcast do you feel that as you grow older uh that you're i guess more you're more adult do you think that the significance of the last three years is more significant than the three years that preceded that or do you think that that's an impossible thing to judge because the three years before that obviously informed the three years after that it's a tricky question the last three years of your life have probably been the most significant no i don't think so the first three the first three years of your life have probably been the most significant. No, I don't think so.

The first three. The first three of all of them. Zero to three. Wow. What do you reckon? If we can even go back further than then, like to your conception, obviously that was the real beginning. Yeah, that's true.

That one was important. That was an important moment. Does that mean you were the best sperm? I think so, yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is what that means right i mean by by what metric you were the one that got in that fertilized fastest doesn't always mean best unless you're in a running race only got one job and that's it so yeah you're the best one you're the best around hey congrats my dude thank you and same to you also wow and to you listening also all powerful sperms every one of us but um yeah yeah it's interesting it's

interesting just how much of this podcast there is too much i think it's a huge wall of fucking audio yeah it is and it's it's you know it's getting to the point now when you have to watch a black and white silent version of the film just to feel something that you go maybe it's damaged us maybe it wasn't all good i think you know what i think due to our sunny disposition, which I mean, obviously, is a recklessly forgetful thing to say when we have an entire season of Sex and the City 2 out there in the public sphere. But, you know, I like to think that we came out on top.

Do you? I don't think it has damaged us. I think it's made us stronger. Actually, with you framing it in that way, because I used to think we should have stopped after season two, but you're right. I think we needed this. Pallet cleanse.

It wasn't a pallet cleanse per se. It was more of, you know, it's a three-game series, and we fucking got slaughtered in that second game. We were well up on that first match. It was good we played really well i think really really well yeah and then uh look home team advantage we went to the girls and the girls whipped us week in week out we had a strong start pride comes before the fall those two second quarters against six in the city like it was a bloodbath out there and we were on the

receiving end and then i feel like this third game the tiebreaker i i feel like we've edged ahead that's uh we've it's uh it's been tight but i think we're ahead i like to think so too have you considered a life post worst idea what are you gonna do with all the excess time i don't know man um i don't know i'm a big believer that time expands or contracts to fit anything and that you got going on you know so i'll probably just um do nothing with it which is sad but accurate well i guess that's that is a good question then is um Is this more valuable than you just sitting quietly in a room for the same amount of time it takes to record a podcast? Absolutely, isn't it? Undeniably so.

How so? Well, because this is going out to the world. We're sharing it with wonderful people. Sharing something doesn't make it good, Tim. I think it does. That's where we will disagree. Your time is more valuable if it's spent doing something other

people can enjoy and it doesn't even really matter how many people you're talking about whether it's one other person or two or a thousand or whatever if you can make your time count for someone else it is infinitely a better use of your time you know what I'm saying

so long as you're already happy, presumably. Nah, you can do it at your own expense. I think this podcast is testament to that. Well, yeah, I don't really have an argument against it. It's good. This is a nice, I feel we've, I mean, this black and white moment has given us quite, there's a nice reflective tone to what's happening here.

Yeah, I think we've slowed down the pace. We'll be trudging again I'll tell you what might be part of it as well the substances in Guy Montgomery and Tim Batts bodies right now is just breakfast that's it there's been no beers or anything nothing going on

not that there ordinarily would be well there's at least usually a beer or two in the tum tum by this point yeah they say change is as good as a holiday. So drinks up? Nah, nah. So, you know. Oh, you're saying the sobriety is the holiday that we've been seeking.

Well, and the screening. Well, that's true. It was quite a different film. One question I do have for you, though, Guy Montgomery, is what's in that MacBook Pro box box which is a question we will answer after this message from our sponsors well ladies and gentlemen this episode of the worst idea of all time is brought to you by dollarshaveclub.com dollarshaveclub.com have changed the game of shaving you know all those other shitty razor companies that are out there charging you an arm and a fucking leg just to

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5, 6, 7, 8 Getting sentimental with James Reid Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fishing for Lisa. Yeah. And the one and only one is us. Thought you're my reason to live.

Thought you're my reason to live. That's all it is, baby. The Feelers. Super System. On CD. With a note saying, Holy shit, did you know this band existed? The lead singer has almost exactly the same name as me.

That would be such a vanity gift, wouldn't it? And I love that it then fulfills the premise of being a self-serving gift. It's like, hey, I was Googling myself and I came up with this weird result of a Kiwi rock band called The Feelers. Because he looked up James Reid spelt his way. He got through so many results because he was up james reed spelt his way and because he's got through so many results he's a wash doing this every day because he's such a he's a drunk sellout cashing a check uh he was google said do you mean james reed reid fuck imagine being a celebrity and searching your

name and google telling you that there's another person with your name with no alternative spelling who google thinks it's more likely you're researching. That's what James Reid experienced. How embarrassing for him. Punishingly so. He's got a fragile ego. We know this. We've seen it on display.

I mean, the good thing is that Zicoli, as the film proves, has got a Discman. Probably with anti-shock technology. Up to 15 seconds. That is horse shit. That anti-shock stuff was a fucking, like, that was a rort.

No, it wasn't. Yes, it was, Tim. Did you have a Discman? How come when my family would drive, you know, somewhere for a holiday and I'd be listening to my Discman, if we'd go over a gravel road, I'd turn on my anti-shock.

You think the CD inside of the Discman knew it? You think Shania Twain's Come On Over suddenly was skip free that's what you're listening to on your family trips first cdi of her own bitch don't get bitch with me don't get don't get preemptively aggressive at me for an insult that i'm not angry with you i'm angry with big discman well what kind of discman did you have i think that's the pertinent question because i had a sony and from memory the anti-shock worked pretty good i can't i'm think it was a jvc well that's where you've gone covered in stickers from skateboard and

surf shops where i wouldn't buy any equipment to skateboard or surf no but you wanted to let everyone know that you were thinking about it you were thinking about getting into these things and you wanted the world to know were stickers as good as money back in your day better than yeah i mean money you can have and swap it for stuff, but stickers is a communication to the world saying, look out, everyone.

I'm thinking about getting into surf and skate. Used to be. The New Zealand I grew up in, you could buy, you know, you could put a deposit on your first house, two bedrooms, you know,

sort of inner city suburb. Three, four stickers. Yeah. Now you need like like a million bucks. million dollars anyway yeah so he gave them uh the feet the feelers best known album pressure pressure man no super system with pressure man on it great song too uh and zicoli just went away and listened to it and then he came back it's like this is so far outside my ordinary tastes, I don't know why you'd give me this CD.

Broaden your horizons. That's right. That's what James Reid was all about. And he does talk about that a little bit in the movie. He's like, you know, your problem is you don't listen. Good sound effect. You know what I'm talking about. No one else does.

That clap came through loud and clear. Yeah. Because it's, you you know obviously a sound effect every yeah it's weird you guys it's it's a tricky thing to explain because everything that's been added to the film is the sound effect was there and everything that's dialogue wasn't so it was interesting to get a little like peek of something like a clap because they had obviously added it later and it punctured through look at this point we are so deep inside of this fucking thing we're in this tiny little bubble

it's hard to describe what it's what's in there you know it's like going through that time tunnel and interstellar still haven't seen that film have you not seen it i didn't know that oh shit we should watch that instead no it's too late we get or not we get i get so i've i think i've spoken about this before i haven't seen a lot of sort of what are considered to be pretty iconic films sure and um yeah i get so chastised for it what you're what that's fucked. We are your friends 55 times, but you ain't got time to see E.T.? Go to hell. Anyone who lords stuff like that over other people can go to hell. Be it music, art, books, films, whatever.

Don't look. Just be like, hey, you know, it's cool. It's good. If you have the inclination and time, maybe check it out. Don't be like, I can't believe you haven't seen 2001 a space odyssey go fuck yourself don't weaponize that against people that voice you did is the voice of uh anyone who's ever who you've ever disagreed with ever it is and then i said a very normal and well-reasoned thing and then they said oh my god exactly they all sound like that but it's true it's insecure people weaponizing their experiences to try and make other people feel small and i i won't

i won't put up with it it's essentially bullying rest assured tim i've not seen interstellar i've not seen well you know what if you've got the time and inclination sometime maybe you should check it out yeah i heard it's a great film well Well, I enjoyed it. Not everyone loved it. You loved it. Yeah, man. Partially for the soundtrack, though. Shit is haunting. You said the soundtrack.

Track. Trick. Wow, Kiwi accent, I don't know. Trick. Not known for rounded vowels, are we? Trick. Track. Trick.

What are you doing now? What are we up to? Trick. What's happening? Trick. You're just saying the word trick. Trick. Okay, you doing now? What are we up to? Trek. What's happening? Trek. You're just saying the word trek. Trek. Okay, very good.

Righto. Hey, listen. You know what else I want to get to the bottom of in this episode? Trek. What happened in that bathroom? Trek. Someone just trekked in some mud or something on their boots? Trek.

They've been for a trek and then they trekked, trekked. Do you say trek or trekked in mud? Trek. They'd been for a trek, and then they'd trek, trek. Do you say trek or tracked in mud? Trek. So someone had been for a trek, and they'd trekked in some mud into the bathroom. Trek. Right, okay. And so it was just mud, essentially. Trek.

Which I think that Johnny Depp actually confused for human excrete. Excretion? Trek. Trek. That's what was really there, but he thought it was poo and and it's kind of like it's just all over the floor and johnny depp's like oh man this is disgusting but in actual fact it was just someone who went for a you know why johnny depp's unfamiliar with what what the fuck man i see you up for a real one and you move on at that point god damn it guy we used to be on the same team here man we're gonna get

our shit together we got five more of these to go man i was just trying to tell you that you gotta be a team player in this this is hard you know this johnny depp doesn't have enough fiber in his diet he hasn't taken a shit for three years he's forgotten what the stuff looks like oh that's disgusting yeah do you know if he hasn't taken a shit for three years and he's still alive i think the opposite is true he isn't unhealthy he is so healthy that his body has found a way to use every atom that is put into him there is no waste product anymore there are any sleeps no no i don. If you had it your way, would you sleep? Absolutely not. Never.

Nah. Who do you think sleep is for? The week. It's actually for everyone, but I wish it wasn't. Fuck, I love to sleep. Yeah? Yeah. Bit of kip? Yeah. But think of all the shit you could get done if you weren't sleeping i'm not doing anything

in the day at the moment anyway you could get a play if you if you if you didn't need to sleep you could get a playstation then and get away with it you know no i'd sooner sleep than play ps4 imagine if playing playstation or whatever was equivalent to sleep like your brain did the same kind of thing. When you go to sleep, your brain beams up the old projector and starts showing you Yeah, that's true. shit that you're up to

in a different world that doesn't actually have any bearing on the world that you inhabit. Apparently we still don't have a good grasp on why we have to sleep. The scientists don't understand it yet, guy. It's big bed. Big bed, you reckon?

Yeah, man Fuck We didn't actually sleep beforehand And then the mattress company started popping up Sleepy head Oh, your head's looking so sleepy Hey, I'm Mr. Sealy Oh, you look tired

You're looking mighty tired, Mr. Bud Man, I would believe that Because mattresses are fucking expensive and this sounds like it's it's ramping up to another podcast ad it isn't there's no big reveal that we've got one of them fancy mattress companies on i'm just saying the mattress prices vary so much in cost that i think there's something fucky about that industry too maybe they are forcing all of us to sleep you know i wouldn't be maybe they're expensive to manufacture i don't know how much anything costs to make or how difficult it is

if you were given all the raw materials to make a mattress tim how raw are we talking like foam or fucking whatever well okay so there's springs in there are the springs sprung or is it just like a rod you're given everything none of it's assembled right and they're like hey here's everything it actually requires to make a mattress yeah have at it yeah a how long does it take for you to assemble your version of a mattress and b how sleepable is that mattress not so not sleepable way it would take such a long time to get such a bad result that's the thing you can't sleep until the mattress is made oh crippling fuck and you would get the more tired you got the worse you would get at it yeah and then you'd sleep on this like you'd sleep on the floor whatever on some wretched

foam and spring contraption you wake up you'd have a horrible sore back and you'd be like oh i've really got to fix this mattress so i can get a good night's sleep and then all that drives you is just the desire to finally finish this mattress do you think a lack of sleep is what's you know underpinning a lot of what's wrong with the world at the moment do you think we used to sleep more do you think everyone was just getting a better kip? I think phones in bed have certainly disrupted some sleeping habits. Phones in bed.

I wake up and see how long I can go without checking my phone. I don't have it in my bed. It's in the room. I've got to get up and go and get it. It's disgusting that you have to, but good that you're doing that. It's crazy.

I've got my Kindle, so I'll be reading reading or whatever and then after like 10 or 15 minutes sometimes longer if i'm really immersed in the book i'll be like i have to know i go check it's fucking crazy that's an addiction yeah yeah it is first thing that i going to do when this podcast finishes Tim go for a run check my phone yeah of course you will which actually might be right now

oh sick I wonder what's happening I feel like the movie didn't quite get its juice this week but it's because

it's been quite hard to articulate the experience that Guy and I have been through seeing a black and white dialogue free version of We Are Your Friends it's because it's been quite hard to articulate the experience that Guy and I have been through, seeing a black and white dialogue-free version of We Are Your Friends. It's been really wonderful. Kind Eric, I can't thank you enough for this gift that you've given us.

And look, all I want to say is thank you, really. That's it. Sweet, kind baby Eric. Your beautiful teeth. I want to brush them so bad. Thank you also to dollarshaveclub.com. Dollarshaveclub.com slash worst idea to get all that stuff. And we're sorry for being gross at the end with that baby and the teeth.

Hey, someone liked my photo on Instagram. Ow! the end with that baby and the teeth and hey someone liked my photo on instagram classic maximum joseph you forget that films are supposed to have a point