The Worst Idea Of All Time - Friendzone 102: Fixing Ropes

Episode Date: August 15, 2020

Tim and Guy welcome you to try and figure out what a radius is. And diameter. And the other bits. Timbo picks the wrong tone of voice for a heartwarming message, a friend watches WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS t...he best/worst way possible. We dive back into Mr Big's Big Book of Ideas in a huge way. And we get some tantalising behind-the-scenes info on Doolittle and CATS (2019). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, it's the Friend Zone, with Tim and Guy, it's the Friend Zone, we're gonna have a good time, it's the Friend Zone, with Tim and Guy, because making friends is the best idea of all time, Friend Zone. Hello, and welcome to the Friend Zone. I think I know the number now. 102, I'm pretty sure. That's right. The popular sequel to Friend Zone 101. Yeah, people love it. Get that out of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:00:37 We're videotaping this one, so you've got to be aware of the angles. I've got Rufus here, who refuses to relinquish the seat that I'm in. I didn't know that we were starting that, so I just told you that I was not ready. I thought it would be a funny joke. Oh, you think this is funny? Yeah, I think it's cool. I think it's good. Hi, everybody. Just two friends hanging out here, giving each other japes and jabs, little jokes between
Starting point is 00:00:57 mates. It's good to be here among you, my pals. Too many cables in this room it's been a um a myriad of plugging in things and plugging out things to make it all work my dog's joining us i've been away for almost two weeks from my house um learning how to snowboard that was just one day of it i went to the southern most point of the south island and attempted to smoke a joint there because I thought it would be cool but it was too windy. Yeah, I've been down there. There are signs to everywhere else
Starting point is 00:01:30 in the world, right? Yeah, there was a sign that I've got a photo on Instagram by a sign that says this is the southernmost point of the South Island. You should say the southernmost point. Yeah, that's good um because you're it's about 5 000 kilometers to the south pole and a bit like very close to
Starting point is 00:01:53 and 5 000 kilometers to the equator as well which means that the diameter of the earth is is real like a even number it's 20 000 or 40 is it 20 or 40 it'd be 20 because if you're there and it's 5 000 of the south oh i was thinking of circumference you go to the equator yeah yeah it's double diameter succumb no it's not there's you gotta get pi in the mix what's the radius the radius the radius is half the time so the radius is but what is the radius the radius is like you get the pi and you cut it into quarters and it's the distance from the middle out hey man um i really don't want to think about any of this stuff so i'd appreciate if you stopped bringing it up needless to say i did not smoke my joint um but i had a wonderful time in the south island i saw your parents yeah i saw that place that was nice of you yeah did you guys all get
Starting point is 00:02:41 along of course i love your folks i them too, and they actually love you. Dad's always been a big Batman guy. He always goes, how's the Batman? We had a chat about- Did he call you the Batman? He did not, which maybe I've got to work my way up to that. It's important to have goals in life. That's what he calls you to me.
Starting point is 00:02:57 The Batman. Yeah. It's fucking good. It's a good term of the DM. He goes, what are you doing? I go, I've just been with Tim. And he goes, oh, how is the Batman? The Batman.
Starting point is 00:03:05 What did you talk about with my parents? Fiscal policy. Oh, no. Alan Greenspan's response to the 87 crash. Oh, man. I was, um, I went on Rampage on Twitter on Friday. I was pretending to be a politician.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You were on quite a tear. Can I put the mic down a little bit so people can see your beautiful face? Anyway, I was having a lot of fun, a lot of laughs. You changed your profile pic and your name to Jerry Branley. That's right. He happens to be my second cousin by marriage. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 What's the good word on Jerry? Or Gary? I don't know anything. I really don't know anything about him as a person, but I kind of detest his politics. Yeah. Anyway, I got a very concerned text from my father saying, I can see what you're doing,
Starting point is 00:03:56 but it's not a good idea to impersonate people. Yes, it is. And I don't think you're going to change anyone's mind. And I was like, you think I'm doing that to try and change people's mind? That's not what it's about at all. No, I had a lot of fun and then I got paranoid on Sunday night and changed my name back. What did you get paranoid about exactly? I went and saw the movie Heat on beautiful 35mm at the Hollywood Cinema in Avondale.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Fantastic flick. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it. And on the way, I talked to a very funny author, writer named Madeline Chapman. Oh, yeah. I said, hey, Mads. She wrote the book on Jacinda Ardern. She literally did. And I said, hey, Mads, how are you?
Starting point is 00:04:37 And she said, good. Has Jerry Brownlee sued you yet? And I said, no, I'm bulletproof. And then I went home and I thought, I don't think i'm eligible to be sued but i had my fun i don't really need to do this anymore i don't like that people are putting these thoughts in your head i wish that i was there with you for like both times over the weekend to push back against uh both your father and mandolin chapman's cautiousness they're doing
Starting point is 00:05:02 it out of a place of love they're looking out for for you, I'm sure. But I love a bit of mischief. Yeah, it was. I had a really good time. I genuinely was also at one point trying to get kicked off Twitter by doing it. The dude's been a politician for like 30 years and he's the deputy leader of the opposition party here. He could take some dude.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I know. Throw in a few jokes his way. I know, but I thought they'd still... few jokes his way. I know, but I thought they'd still, you know, like, because I was tweeting at the leader of the opposition, and I thought that she'd be like, okay,
Starting point is 00:05:31 I'll get one of my staffers to fucking report a tweet. Who gives a shit? What an excellent way to get taken off of Twitter. That's what I was, I was hoping for that. You didn't get to like, Becky Lucas levels of, No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 calling for beheading. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. Friend of the show, Becky Lucas. I'm glad that you visited them. I'm calling for beheading. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. Friend of the show, Becky Lucas. I'm glad that you visited them. I'm glad you all got along. Yeah, man. I love those guys and I love you guys.
Starting point is 00:05:52 So it was nice. When I got that photo, I got one photo from mum of you and Zoe at the kitchen table. And then I got a photo from you of all four of you and it made my heart sing. I thought it was fantastic. Bloody lucky to catch Charlotte as well. She was off to yoga. She's a real yogi, that woman. Yeah it she's remarkable nick i mean probably i don't know the shape of her life necessarily but for for for uh where she is in life probably the shape of the shape of her
Starting point is 00:06:16 life it's your mom for the shape of the world hey uh let's dig into the old mailbag your onion bag tommy sm Smith went away. This is very exciting. And will also probably be slightly confusing a little bit, I guess, because of the chronology of release. So today, the first episode of Season 5 came out for us. I don't know when I'm going to put this friendzone out. Probably quite soon.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So it'll probably be fine. Yeah. Also, if you're watching this on the Patreon and not just listening to it on the podcast stream here's a little behind the scenes secret for you oh it's a jazz cigarette everybody because we're jazz fans you motherfucker now everyone knows i gotta get the big book of ideas because that was kind of the whole reason of going uh that's right well while you do that i'll read i'll i'll read some older correspondence dating back to the 18th of june 2020 thought i'd chuck you a quick message as the events of tonight were too poetic to not share. I've been listening to your party throughout the quarantine period from a recommendation
Starting point is 00:07:10 and just got up to the director's commentary for We Are Your Friends. I had some free time on my hands, so I thought I'd watch along. I played this movie on my old laptop with a crappy battery. Now, I did think, this may die at some point, and I'm not sure if I'll make it through. It was looking pretty good for a while, but lo and behold, it died about 10 seconds into Zicovoli's final track ah went and did some other stuff for a while came back and eventually finished it off and boys i gotta say if there's any way to make a terrible song any less climactic than it already was that was it oh shit oh and by the way
Starting point is 00:07:41 the version i watched was guys dodgygy German one from Stella Marlis. Shout out, Stella. Shout out to Stella. That is the way to... Stella! Take the wind out of all the sails of the film. Yeah. But that's kind of the way we consume things now.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah, it is. I was talking with a friend about this recently because the New Zealand International Film Festival has been happening. And without wanting to rub salt in any of the international wounds, half of it was run online when they were, I guess, facilitating it. They were anticipating we might still be in lockdown. The other half in cinema.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And I would only go to film festival movies in cinema and a friend was watching them online and they were like, it's bad. I was like, yeah, no, but I think I'm right because it's a better experience. I wouldn't be able to,
Starting point is 00:08:22 like also some of the movies that I watch in a film festival, I'm going to because I want to experience the full breadth of cinema. If I put these movies on in my house, I can't get through a fucking episode of Seinfeld sometimes. I'm not going to get through a 90-minute fucking Icelandic movie about some cow farmer who's going up against a monopolistic co-op, which is a movie I saw on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Is it Monsanto? No it was called The County. But I mean who was the monopolistic It was called a co-op like the actual functionality and the set up of the co-op was not to be a monopoly but because they present themselves as a cause
Starting point is 00:09:00 for common good they kind of muscled out if a farmer sold their milk to a different distributor that wasn't just the central co-op in the town, they'd get blocked from being able to distribute through the co-op, which was still the primary source of income. And this was bothering the woman. So it's kind of like scabs in the union situation.
Starting point is 00:09:16 People who cross the picket line. It's kind of that. Well, yes, but no, because in this instance, the scabs are the goodies. Oh, true. Because the co-op is overexerting itself. I see.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah. But, I mean, you've got the general gist. Like Fonterra. We've got one of those dairy conglomerates. And I wouldn't have watched the movie if I'd put it on at home. I would have turned it off. Fucking, I hear you, dude, but be better. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Watch Icelandic documentaries about the dairy industry in your home. It was a fucking film, not a documentary. It wasn't real. It was all make-believe. It was 90 minutes. Really? Of just like, there was one laugh. It was billed as a comedy.
Starting point is 00:09:56 There was one laugh. She filled up an effluent tank and went and sprayed milk at the co-op's offices. It was hilarious. Awesome. And one of the people I went to the movie with, that's exactly when they went to take a piss. And afterwards I said, man, you missed the one laugh. Oh man, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's okay. Life's okay. How do you go on movies for going to the bathroom? Like generally speaking. I don't go. Me neither. Three hours long?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. Didn't go. Didn't go? And did you need to? There was a point where I was like, I could go to the bathroom, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:10:26 I don't want to miss any of this. Good shit. What's that movie about? Pacino and De Niro at the height of their powers. Directed by Michael Mann. It's a cat and mouse game. De Niro is a crook.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Pacino is a detective. Both with various different home life situations. And it's like denaro's trying to get one final score pacino's trying to track him down and there's this iconic scene where as criminal and uh detective they have a cup of coffee and they talk like they sort of talk to each other about their philosophies in life and you know what's going to happen and um it's just like it was just It was a movie from the old school and I can see why it got all the hype it did.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I had such a blast watching it. Also, beautiful cinema. The whole experience down to the ground was classy. That venue is too dipole. We tried to book it once for a live show and it is phenomenally expensive. And rightly so. And also like a 3pm Sundaym sunday movie a matinee
Starting point is 00:11:26 really good concession stand popcorn and a craft beer yeah fuck that was living man they've got nice ice creams too they've even got um those vegan yeah the little island oh yeah yeah those two i was thinking that whatever that doesn't matter magnums or something yeah big big book of ideas that's right we've got it on video if you're on the patreon before you read this actually I do have a piece of correspondence
Starting point is 00:11:54 from the creator who sent this to the Facebook worst area of all time and because we only discovered this in the previous friend zone and this had been sent to us a long time ago. Very long time ago, like three years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And so on the 27th of July, our friend wrote this. Flash and Timbo, I can't even. I just listened to Friend Zone 101 and you finally opened my package. I wasn't able to track it, so I thought it was lost in the mail and never got there. I'm so thrilled it made it. There have been so many times over the last few years I wanted to ask if it got there, but I didn't want to be a bother. What? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Also, I felt a little silly for spending so much time on something and just sending it into the ether to virtual strangers. Podcast stuff is a bit weird that way, you know. This was such a delight. All the stuff in the book is what was described in the episodes by you all. I have a document of all the descriptions
Starting point is 00:12:43 that I used to make it. If you all want that just let me know yes a thousand times yes it has been hard being out of work and in texas during the pandemic so having this happen now really brought a bright spot to my week you're you all are brave boys and lucky sorry can we get the pronunciation on y apostrophe a l l again dude i know that this message has been like marked as coming from texas but valerie has literally written you and then the word oh got it okay sorry you think i would have fucking passed up at y'all that's why it threw me so much have some respect you all are brave but y' all are brave boys and lucky New Zealand boys, even if it sounds the same when you say bear, bear, and woman, woman.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And I did read both of those identically. Stay safe and thanks for all the great content, Valerie. P.S. I listened to season two straight through while working at a bakery, and if counted in pastries made rather than hours, it was 2,756 pastries baked in length wow what a journey valerie i mean just across the board apologies and thanks which i feel like is pretty much my email signature at this point i know god i'm sorry to hear you on that i we really did you see that tweet i put out the other day about um cameo because
Starting point is 00:14:06 they've pursued me for so long and i'm so i tweeted out i'm so glad that i didn't succumb to getting on cameo if anyone wants an email from me or a birthday video message you do it the old fashion way track down my email from the internet wait six weeks for me to be profusely apologetic at being so late it's so true but valerie honestly uh your patience and both creating and waiting for us to receive this book are to be commended we are so grateful for this craft to revisit uh obviously chris knows and mr big's ideas also like this is if i put this together as a school project i would not have stopped banging on about it around the fucking kitchen table. This is a beautiful...
Starting point is 00:14:46 It's like a perfect combination of a work of art and a time capsule. Piece of craft. That's right. We can really travel back in time by just opening this book. So, okay, here's a page that says... It's got the days of the week up the top
Starting point is 00:15:01 and then it's got married. Not married. Married. Married. Married. Not married. Married. It's a big pitch for the new up the top and then it's got married not married married married not very it's a new marriage contract i love it uh make a marriage last i was trying to figure out how to make a marriage last deal with carrie less best idea more time for ideas travel on sunday tuesday do you know what i think because that we we must have concluded one of the things holding back uh big from being fully satisfied within the marriage is that being married seven days a week Do you know what? We must have concluded one of the things holding back Big
Starting point is 00:15:25 from being fully satisfied within the marriage is that being married seven days a week blocks some vital brainstorming time for him to come up with his entrepreneurial, occasionally philanthropic ideas. I'm terrified at the idea of finding the jascoozie page in this book. You came up with that. Take some ownership of your creativity.
Starting point is 00:15:43 This one's got Tenacious D, Kyle Gass on there, slaying. I can't remember us talking about TD. TD plus recorder plus me equals Tenacious Big D, key for Kyle Gass. I can see how we came up with that. What does it say? Get my composing on. And it's got, I think it's a hand-drawn picture of an amp there.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It's a beautiful thing. It's also good. You have a rifle through some of these pages. I mean, I don't even know how to articulate this. Oh, it's someone trying to... Get in there. This is someone trying to solve for the Zodiac Killer. A favorite of yours.
Starting point is 00:16:17 They've written various equations. Yeah. And then if you look at it upside down, is that potentially Zicoli? Oh, my God. It might be us. I don't know. It's a man's face. They're in a tie. And if you look at it upside down, is that potentially Zicole? Oh, my God. It might be us. I don't know. It's a man's face.
Starting point is 00:16:29 They're in a tie. Maybe it's Chris Noth himself. I'm going to flash that up to cam. Get that right in there. How fucking incredible is that? It looks so good on camera, too. Look at the little screen. If anyone is in Texas and they want to hire someone who's clearly capable of greatness, Valerie, it seems, as dated on
Starting point is 00:16:46 the 27th of July, is on the hunt We should find, I don't want to put Valerie's email address out there, but if Valerie's got a portfolio website, something like that A LinkedIn. Now, this is my favourite kind of shit, just a big block of text The itchings of a madman
Starting point is 00:17:02 written all over a page, filling it up So let's just pick some choice cuts. Hit the road. Clone, we want to be alone. The sun, the moon, the stars, and the earth come together as one to make me invisible. Make me light and brightness. Make me dark and darkness. Yeah, this is the real shit.
Starting point is 00:17:25 This page here is considered too illegal to see. And there's like... So we've got a chopping board with some... Oh, what's that word? Shukuzi? Is that how you... Shakutari. Shakutari.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And a kitty cat. And then at the bottom, it's like a big redacted black bar. Can I have a look at the redacted black bar? Yeah. If you flip over the next page, maybe you could read it through that. No, they've outpoured us. Can't get enough of this book.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Do you want to borrow it for a little bit? I've had it for three years. Yeah, I would love to. But I haven't had a proper... Maybe I'll scan all the pages. Hey, maybe we should do that. Maybe we should scan all the pages so everyone can share in this.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I just got a new printer scanner because my other one kicked the bucket and it's quite good. we should do that maybe we should scan all the pages so everyone can like share in this i just got a new printer scanner because my other one kicked the bucket and it's quite good you must be one of only like two people i know who have a printer at home and i gotta sign a lot of i have to print a lot of things for people too i mean look i we created a lot of these ideas they're articulated by valerie looking at them they are the etchings of maniacs. Either us or the spirit of Big through us. I love this. I bought in the Dunedin Art Gallery gift shop a little book for $20 written by this ad man whose name escapes me at the moment.
Starting point is 00:18:41 But it's like a hundred ideas about big ideas and shit. And he's all about, you did not create the the idea you're basically just an aerial for the universe receiving some shit this this person is an ads yeah yeah yeah he's like an advertising magnate he sounds a lot like mr big because he's like a coupling of um creativity is just like you know things are whirring around you don't really create the ideas you sort of receive them but also I'm the fucking man yeah real real everyone's just an antenna for the
Starting point is 00:19:11 universe and I'm the biggest antenna exactly that's advertising for you isn't it when you get to the upper echelons yeah I'm Valerie once again we can't thank
Starting point is 00:19:20 you enough and I definitely don't have the time at the moment but I'll endeavor to find it let's fucking just scan the book so we can share it's glory with everyone
Starting point is 00:19:28 it's a great idea make it a PDF warning PDF on this download do you wanna hit one oh yeah
Starting point is 00:19:36 I can do it oh yeah I thought I was covering for you but I'll do it here we go 22nd of June 2020
Starting point is 00:19:42 hey there Timbo and Guy Guy I've been a big fan for years And I work in the VFX industry I'm a bit behind on the podcast So imagine my surprise When I'm going along the feed To find that you've done short stints
Starting point is 00:19:53 With both Cats and Doolittle Two films which I was working on At the same time last fall What the fuck? Note If this does end up on a friendzone Do not say my name, please. I can assure you that both of these projects were an absolute shit show from top to bottom.
Starting point is 00:20:12 That's what we've heard. I just thought I'd share with you some of the behind the scenes info on both films. Cats. The mocap broke on set and was completely unusable. Every single person... Oh, motion capture. Yeah, every single person and every shot had to be recreated in 3d and their movements were matched manually by animators cats had a
Starting point is 00:20:31 six-month deadline for context lion king remake was done in two years holy fuck they had to manually reconstruct everyone's movements. Whoa. Whoa, dude. That's genuine news. I don't know if we've ever broken news on this show before. That is fucking cooked. Holy shit, dude. In their respect, that did a great job. How did it get out?
Starting point is 00:21:01 How did you finish it? They poured that much money and they just put it out. These fucking animators, man. That's why this whole production process associated with Cats makes me so mad. Because the people who actually did it and finished it are heroes and should be lauded and probably do deserve an Oscar for what they achieved. Tom Hooper is such a fucking madman and so out of his depth that he just like,
Starting point is 00:21:27 he gave them an impossible task which they sort of delivered on. And the fact that it didn't like really work in a creative sense is all on him. But the fact that anything happened at all, I feel like is all on them. Yeah. And Cats is a great film.
Starting point is 00:21:41 There's normally a shot approval process where every step of a shot gets notes and usually gets sent back to the artist several times before it gets done a majority of cat's shots were approved on the first go due to time constraints the friday after cats premiered i was watching cats rendering jobs still running And then just like Hit pause for a second on that email Because just imagine that
Starting point is 00:22:12 You're working on a 100 million dollar film That features the acting talents of Dame Judi Dench Sir Ian McKellen Superstar Taylor Swift Jennifer Hudson And what should be like a real Oscar bait performance Jason Derulo
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah Rebel Wilson Robbie Fairchild Hold on you're making them I'm trying to paint a picture here The movie has been released It's in the world You've seen it
Starting point is 00:22:43 After you've just like broken your brain trying to get the thing done and then you get back into the office and you're still seeing people turn away on fucking i don't even know what you use maya probably not that is probably low tier whatever 3d graphics still and just some computers continuing to like render and export i love that though i like the world i like that we can see like all of the fucking unplugged cords and all the grisly bits you know like the way that the system works you're not meant can see all of the fucking unplugged cords and all the grisly bits. I know. Because the way that the system works,
Starting point is 00:23:08 you're not meant to see any of this. Everything's meant to look perfect. Yeah. But it's nice to see it, spot it, say, there's more to this, and then someone would be like, you're not wrong. Anyway, on to notes on Doolittle. Yes, yes, please.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Doolittle had something like three different directors, and every time a director changed, they would go in and change scenes, including scenes where the CG was mostly done. Even though Doolittle had more time than Cats did, these changes resulted in a similar panic crunch to Cats. Additionally, they couldn't delay the movie because they promised to release it in Asia by December.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Thank God they did, to be honest, because if Doolittle was... I mean, it was a phenomenal flop, but if it came out any later, it would have been hit covid right it would never have come out yeah what i mean i don't know the next one i've just read but also i mean we went to it three times in a day we had the cinema virtually to ourselves every time i don't know how big of an impact covid would have had on the cinema it had its best shot i guess is what I'm saying. Here's the next note. Yeah. The guy sitting next to me probably spent three to four weeks
Starting point is 00:24:08 just fixing the ropes on the ship, which broke in a ton of the shots. Just three to four weeks on ropes. I'm not capable of doing that, eh? Do you know what I mean? Like, dedicating my time to something real, which I think is evident by the release schedule of this podcast and the manner in which it gets produced and released.
Starting point is 00:24:30 But, like, I can't mentally, emotionally put myself in a place where I would be spending so much time on something that is so detailed. Yeah, I don't have that either. I don't have that in me. When I think about work ethic, that's when I think about like the habits I formed as a child of just sort of picking my spots
Starting point is 00:24:50 and doing it to a degree that's good enough to pass muster. And this is the difference. I mean, and this is the devastating instance of someone doing that and it's still not being enough
Starting point is 00:24:59 to paper over the bigger problems. I guess to be fair, Ropes were not enough. We neither complimented nor criticized the ropes. Oh, I didn realize that it's been happening the whole time is it yeah man oh okay i see the microphone is trying to get away from guy everyone i didn't realize i'm not letting it oh hold on could i just unfill one of these would that help it might just drop oh no fuck it it might just drop on you the original gorilla broke so they
Starting point is 00:25:23 had to bring one in from another movie at the last minute. What does that even mean? What does that even mean? The gorilla broke. Like, it's a CGI gorilla. This next one, the dragon shots were some of the last to be completed because we didn't have a dragon to work with
Starting point is 00:25:35 until two weeks before the deadline. Literally couldn't remember a dragon until that message. Where they're pulling stuff out of its ass. That's right. And then it farts horrifically. This is funny because the text in the email is making it sound like they had to track down a dragon. They're like, fucking look at everywhere for a dragon. Which one of you sons of bitches assistant directors and producers can get me a goddamn dragon?
Starting point is 00:25:58 I don't understand how it all works. Anyway, hope some of these facts bring you joy. I can't exactly prove I was working on these films without giving away too much but that company fired me over code with no warning so fuck him thank you boys for bringing me some much-needed light in this trying time name redacted i've got some people in my life who work in the vfx industry and i tell you what man it sounds fucking brutal so my heart goes out to you and you've lifted my spirits with that. And I think you've provided enough proof. That is absolutely what you see in Doolittle.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Yeah, I'm not going to be calling to question. And if you didn't, congratulations on creating a plausible enough series of lies. Yeah, thanks for bringing joy into our lives. I don't care how you did it. Fuck, that just cracks me up so much the absolute seeds of walking back into your office and they're rendering different seeds on a movie that's out um i believe the pronunciation would be ewan on this person is
Starting point is 00:26:59 that how it's a yeah i guess ewan dear j Jim Bat and Toy Bonk Gomery, do you guys still read our emails on the friend zone? I've been trying to catch up with the podcast for about a year now and am in the middle of season three, all the way back in 2016. Man, that was a long time ago. Remember 2016? Barely. I've seen on my feed that you're doing something with Home Alone now,
Starting point is 00:27:25 but I'm determined not to hear it until I've got to the full context of everything that came before. What progress might you have made since then? Have you finally figured out a system so people don't have to keep telling you whether or not to read out their names on the podcast? No! If you do read this out, I look forward to hearing it circa 2023. Live every moment, love every day. P.S. Do not read my name.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Don't you dare. The fate of the universe depends on it. The magnitude of the consequences were you to read my name cannot be understated. Thank you so much, Ewan. This one comes from the 25th of june 2020 sorry guys i had a little bit of an almond croissant while tim was reading i'm a naughty boy hi tim and guy i've never written to a couple of kiwi comedians but i guess it's the first time for everything right thank you for all that you do i'm finding it hard to feel inspired these days
Starting point is 00:28:22 but your ability to stay positive and find the shining light makes me hopeful that, in time, some of that enthusiasm will rub off. All the best, Emma. Emma, keep going. Whatever you're doing, keep on going. Do you want to know why? I do. Because we love you, Emma.
Starting point is 00:28:38 We do. We love you. As does everyone listening. Everyone right now on the count of three, let's all say, go, Emma. Here we go. One, two, three. Go Emma! I hope that everyone did that.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Otherwise, Tim and I are going to be embarrassed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope that you're embarrassed too. This is the beautiful thing about being embarrassed. It only happens when you're kind of out there on your own. Do you like it when people sing happy birthday to you in public? Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:29:01 We need to figure this out. We need to sort out the happy birthday song. What do you mean? It's a bad song. No one knows what key to start in because it goes a little too high and a little too low for most people. You know, Chelsea always hits the most beautiful harmony
Starting point is 00:29:17 on the last bit of happy birthday that I've started doing too. You do the end. Happy birthday to you. No, fuck it. I needed to run up. Oh, no. I've humiliated myself.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Don't be embarrassed. It's all right. But it's a tricky song, and it's also not a very good song. Like, it's not very musical to my ear. You know what I mean? I know what you mean. I hate it. I'll go so far as to say I hate the song.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Love the sin. Oh, what is it? Hate the sin, not the sinner. 50 bucks we've received from Ian. Fucking appreciate that. Massive fucking respect. Shout out Ian. Sorry for all the swear words.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Oh, and here's Ian's message. Dear Timbo and Monty, just wanted to drop you a line to... This is how he talks, according to me. Just wanted to drop you a line to thank you good boys for the top-notch content you've delivered through Worst Idea. I've been a sporadic listener for a while, but that changed a year ago yesterday
Starting point is 00:30:13 when an ER doctor who looked a lot like Kevin Smith and sounded like the Andy Serkis character from the Marvel films informed me, this is not going to work for this voice, that I had a cancerous tumor in my bowel. And the subsequent hospitalization, you're just laughing at my, yes, I picked the wrong thing,
Starting point is 00:30:33 everybody. And the subsequent hospitalizations and chemo treatments, I ripped through the worst idea catalog hard and took immense comfort in your digital company. The joyful ridiculousness of your endeavor helped keep sorry helped keep up my spirits through the whole process in one of the live episodes paul f admonished you to stop healing yourselves hurting yourselves by continuing this project and he's obviously correct in that assessment but i for one i'm glad that you've soldiered on i wrapped up
Starting point is 00:31:02 chemo in january our first child was born a month later. Yes. Wow. Yes. And now when he won't get- Back to the voice. Back to the OG voice. And now, I don't even know what I was doing.
Starting point is 00:31:12 It was just kind of forceful. Make them British. I'm not good with the accents. I know that's why it'll be good. British. No, I'm not going to do it. And now when he won't go to sleep at night i sit with him in the nursery one specific british person and we listen to whatever is uh latest in
Starting point is 00:31:35 the feed from the frosty fellas a plus parenting i think you'll agree thanks a million boys all the best and say my name ian from edmonton canada ps happy to have donated 50 us dollars to you today as to you today as a token of my appreciation ian um thank you so much for the cash man i can't believe you're a new parent and you just kicked cancer and you still donated some money incredible congratulations on everything yeah that is amazing ian you rock the house cancer sucks man um but when you kick it it kind of like can be an opportunity to maybe um do a bit of a reset and just look at things and how you've been spending your time and energy and go my family's cool or something i don't know or my
Starting point is 00:32:17 family sucks yeah it could go either way it could shall i read one i'm so happy for ian Either way. It could. Shall I read one? I'm so happy for Ian. 7th of July, 2020. Boys, congratulations on 100 friendzones. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It's quite the accomplishment, and I've been with you the whole way. I don't have a PhD or any harrowing stories of hard times that you've gotten me through, but I've enjoyed six years with you nonetheless. Yeah. Regarding the new season, if Boner Patrol doesn't work out, have you considered the name O Come O Come Emmanuel Wow Wow prescient
Starting point is 00:32:51 So we haven't released the first step at time of this being sent But both of those things come up in the first step Yeah That was my big idea Too graphic, too biblical Just right perhaps Anyway love you boys, and I'm very much looking forward to the new season.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Peace and love, and if this makes it on the potty, say my goddamn name, Pat Schuster. Pat Schuster, legend. I actually named the first episode O Come, O Come, Emmanuel. How'd you spell come?
Starting point is 00:33:19 I googled the song, which is why I think there was soft piano music playing when you walked in the studio, because I was seeing how they spell it. They spell it like oh come as in come over here yeah but it's weird because the first one was like oh h and then the second one was just the letter o either way riddle me that i don't know if i can work it out brother this might be the last one for me from this yeah For this friend zone Paul Because we got some
Starting point is 00:33:46 Watching to do Brother And we've got another Podcast to record Which is called Killion here We got some Bonus to have
Starting point is 00:33:54 Or not have But certainly to inspect Paul Or the troll I also sent this Into Patreon But thought I'd share it Here just in case
Starting point is 00:34:03 I always Always Forget to do the Patreon. Tim Thumb and Guy Guy, long-time listener, first-time mailer, say my name. I'm going to say it right now. Paul Mahon. Nah. Mahon. Mahon. Mahon.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Sweet. Many years ago, my wife and her brother was sitting down to watch your fave zach efron fuel bender fueled bender we are your friends having had seen the trailer i knew that they were in for all sorts of cinematic badness however i had never checked to see if it was as critically panned as i'd imagined so i surfed my way over to its IMDb page to clarify my suspicions with zero surprise to see it resting on a solid 38%. But what really grabbed my attention was when I finger-dashed my way down to the ever-curious trivia section where, lo and behold i
Starting point is 00:35:05 found a nugget of information that would change the course of my life i love this season three of the new zealand based podcast the worst idea of all time is dedicated to watching we are your friends once a week every week for a year and then reviewing the movie. Raise eyebrows and curiosity at a time, sorry, at an all-time high, I had to dive right in. I started with season two. As above mentioned, I'd not watched We Are Your Friends yet, but somewhere, somehow, along my life train,
Starting point is 00:35:37 I'd actually seen The Sex and the City 2. Although... Oh, sorry. Already knowing how bad the film was and some of the loud the law oh the law oh okay the law behind it it was all sorts of intriguing to hear two strapping young fellas week by week respond to it all little did i realize it would digress into such madness a joyful madness to say this podcast has brought me laughs is an understatement i can't listen to it in bed anymore as the shakes from laughing have distributed have distributed
Starting point is 00:36:09 distributed distributed my wife everywhere distributed to the point that i'm certain she doesn't like me because of it there's a few typos and i also suck at reading and also i need glasses did you know that no yeah i need glasses really imagine how good i might get but it's actually my long distance that's screwed so i don't think it's going to do anything to that i've i could be in a car with you and hear you mispronounce town exactly distance struggle with pronouns proper nouns rather i've never heard much mention of this in your friend zone but the fact you guys for the most part stay clear of current topics politics etc etc is so absolutely refreshing knowing you're pressing play on a pure
Starting point is 00:36:52 nonsense and escapism is something not other podcasts can do for which i congratulate you on i like this use of yeah everywhere while on on the topic of topics, sometimes Timbo has added stuff that question my own reality and that jokes or rants seem almost too much directed toward me that some overlord has constructed a podcast to just feed my senses. I got to a point where I started making a note of certain things. I'm just going to see. It sounds like someone. This note, I feel like this is a turning point in this message do you now what do you put the odds on that i got like did a bunch of mushrooms and
Starting point is 00:37:30 wrote this email to myself signed timbat uh i've used a fake name i can't pronounce like an easily pronounceable last name first off tim's rant about the drone work and stabilization had me absolutely howling i'm a freelance filmmaker so this really tickled me in all the right places tim's love for 8-bit music i had a huge 8-bit music phase in my myspace days hello and my first music video is for an 8-bit track please send that paul i want to see it and listen to it oh shit i hope that didn't stop again getting real sick of your shit sorry that's something else don't worry about that Paul for some reason when you talked about walking around with a backpack full of electronics in the rain
Starting point is 00:38:10 I can't remember the context I vaguely remember that you would give me shit about it yeah and that's been my entire life here in Ireland these are pretty popular I guess but in the mix fit me right down to a T. Your love for The Office,
Starting point is 00:38:28 extras, Ferris Bueller, spicy food, and hatred of the sound of people eating. I reckon Paul and I might have a future together. Continue reading. I need to make more. I'm waiting for my paragraph. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I have no idea why, but you talked about someone looking like Hayley Joel Osment before, and I can't even begin to express how much that played a part in my life. When Sixth Sense came out, my entire school just called me, I see dead people. Oh, that's pretty, that's bullying, man. Thankfully, it sort of died off by my mid-twenties. Fuck. But I am told I look like him for, oh oh but i got told i look like him for such a
Starting point is 00:39:05 long time timbo's also dropped some knowledge bombs on o led burnin favicons and as well as the sales pitch inner meetings off of which uh topics i've literally never heard any other media address and i for one am glad you boys are out there fighting the good fight oh my wife's name is zoe as well this is written by me anyhow guys i've rambled enough from one island to the from the other side of the world to the other peace out paul fuck yeah paul he's actually got a show reel in there so i'm gonna take this out of the friend zone send it back to myself so i can watch his music videos thanks paul and thanks to everyone who's corresponded with us uh in particular once more we've really got to give a huge shout out to valerie and the big book of ideas we will be
Starting point is 00:39:51 scanning that and creating a pdf so that everyone can i like that you've committed to it well it's not gonna be a good idea if i did it uh but got a lot on my plate guy guy. I got this dog. Yeah, you do. He refuses to shift. This fucking dog, man. It smells, too. Thank you so much for listening, for corresponding. If you want to get in touch with us, the Facebook is live. We're studio of all time. We're also on Twitter at TWIOATpod.
Starting point is 00:40:21 The Patreon. Patreon.com slash TWIOAT. And we've got a new patreon only podcast that'll be launching very shortly it's probably out it's probably out yeah yeah calionia um we've talked about it previously but it's it's out now so what will happen from here on in is um like all going to plan every single week there will be a episode of season five coming out where we watch a new um emmanuel movie and it goes out for free but a day earlier and with no ads it goes out on the patreon if you like five bucks or more
Starting point is 00:40:51 um i don't know what money tier the kill your near podcast is on but we've got to keep that on patreon so we don't get targeted by the amazon drones that's right and the thing is we're trying to help amazon and also um we might be starting a Discord soon, which I haven't talked to you about, but that's another cool Patreon thing. And there's a very high chance that from here on in, whenever we can, the Friend Zones will be live streamed. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:16 So we'll do like... It'll be like this, but live. Can you imagine that? Yeah. Well, stop imagining it, because soon it's going to be happening. Yeah, it's going to be fun. So we've been off the boil for too long, but we're getting back in. Well, you had that? Yeah. Well, stop imagining it because soon it's going to be happening. Yeah, it's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:41:27 So we've been off the boil for too long, but we're getting back in. Well, you had a great holiday. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I sure did. Fucking loved it. But like way before then as well. We've been off the boil, mate. With releases. Yeah, but we're always on the up.
Starting point is 00:41:39 On the up. And the take. And on the pulse. Thanks, everyone. I hope you're going know i hope you i hope you're going good yeah man and uh i also go fuck yourselves see ya well it's the friend zone with tim and guy it's the friend zone we're gonna have a good time. It's the friend zone with Tim and Guy because making friends is the best idea of all time. Friend zone.

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