The Worst Idea Of All Time - Friendzone 123

Episode Date: June 13, 2021

Your friends are back together for the first time since the Greatest Host of All Time event (which your boi Montgomery won, by the way). Tim is on the ground like the loser he is, fresh from the uniqu...e Auckland experience of drinking coffee with a pal (it was Guy). Today we hear from a Worst Idea listener who has done several laps of the show, a parent of Worst Idea babies and a very good Worst Idea critic.JOIN US ON FACEBOOK: (facebook.com/WorstIdeaOfAllTime)VISIT THE LITTLE EMPIRE PODCAST NETWORK: (littleempirepodcasts.com)MUSIC CREDIT: Tender Moonlight (facebook.com/TenderMoonlight)ART CREDIT: Tomas Cottle (sick-days.com) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the friendzone, in the friendzone, you're always home, in the friendzone, you're not alone, anytime, with Tim and Guy. It's the mail, it never fails, it makes me wanna work my tail, when it comes I want to wail No Do you know Is that Yes it is Blue's Clues But that's so weird because it sounds like What's Paul Reuben's name? Pee Wee Herman It sounds like a Pee Wee Herman bit
Starting point is 00:00:39 Yeah but Blue's I mean all children's shows would have been lifting parts of Pee Wee's Playhouse Pee Wee's Playhouse. Pee Wee's Playhouse, I don't know if it's still true, was on Netflix for a while. In lockdown last year, I watched the whole first season. Did you? That show was incredible.
Starting point is 00:00:55 With Lawrence Fishburne. Yes. The Matrix's Morpheus's cowboy. Some sort of foxy cowboy, yeah. Cowboy fucking something. Cowboy cool dude. It is a cowboy Callum or something he was a someone knows an absolute smoke show i feel like i watched so much more blues clues than was age appropriate because i think it didn't really take hold until i'd outgrown being its target demo but it was
Starting point is 00:01:19 always on or something yeah yeah same actually i remember watching blues clues which doesn't like feel right because we would have been, what, like 12, 13? Yeah. I think maybe it was on after school. Nah, that can't be right. Oh, maybe it was. Maybe it was just a way of making us feel brighter than we were. Oh, like we were engineering that, or the TV was?
Starting point is 00:01:39 The TV's like, I've now made you so stupid, I've now destroyed your attention span so much that I must now give you content for infants to make you feel smart. And then we broke off TVs to computers, and then the computers got small enough to be in our pockets, and we can't even watch a full 15-minute show. It's got to be broken into 15-second increments. Welcome to the friend zone, everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:03 We haven't done one of these for a while. Let's see your mates, Tim and Guy from the Worst Idea of All Time podcast here. Tim, we haven't done this since arguably our most momentous live show to date. Yeah, absolutely. We've been naughty boys. We've been off the boil.
Starting point is 00:02:19 But that live show was something else. If you missed it, and in all likelihood you did. Oh no, that's actually not necessarily true because we streamed it online yes um we were determining who was the greatest host after doing this show for i think seven plus years we want to figure out ultimately who was the best host of the worst idea of all time and the verdict arrived and it it's Guy Montgomery. That's right. Devastatingly. Well, there was devastation for all on that night because while I won the battle, I certainly lost the war.
Starting point is 00:02:55 There's a doubleheader Sex and the City 2 screening coming my way. That was a fun challenge. We made a, what are they called, like a rob or share? Split or steal. If you've ever, you just Google the game show Golden Balls and you'll get how it works. Google Golden Balls Saints or Sinners, and it's like a really good cut down of people being saintly
Starting point is 00:03:25 and choosing to share the spoils. And sinners a la Tim Bass. What I did. I was dastardly. But I kind of had nothing to lose at that point in proceedings, I think. I think I was behind by a couple points, so I just needed to fuck you over. So I don't regret it.
Starting point is 00:03:41 But I do regret the fact that you have to watch Sex and City 2. You know, I regret that too, and I'm sure that I'll get a fresh wave of resentment But I do regret the fact that you have to watch Sex and City 2 I regret that too And I'm sure that I'll get a fresh wave of resentment When I do that work And in the moment I was furious and upset And genuinely felt betrayed But enough time has passed between then and now That I feel sort of neutral about it
Starting point is 00:03:58 You did what you had to do man We've had the comedy festival And we've had bits and pieces going on Guy's in Taskmaster this season He's been doing that It was a huge social media campaign To get both the boys on And you know what?
Starting point is 00:04:11 It was 50% successful So that's pretty good Ain't half bad Well it's exactly half bad But it's also half good And you should watch it if you can Get a VPN Trick your ISP into thinking you're in Auckland, New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Watch it. And then keep living your life as though you are in Auckland, New Zealand. Leave the house to go and get a cup of java from a local hotspot. A uniquely Auckland experience. That's right. They don't have coffee elsewhere. It's not actually out yet, so it's just a good time to get a VPN up. Pretend that you're on our time zone all the time
Starting point is 00:04:45 so you'll confuse your co-workers and living partners. Everyone will be like, why are you awake? It's 3 in the morning. You'll be like, no, it isn't. It's 2 p.m. Taskmaster NZ is going to come at an unspecified date and it will not catch me off guard.
Starting point is 00:04:59 This is full disclosure for those of you listening. Tim and I met up before this record, and we had a coffee. We hadn't seen each other for weeks. Hey, so us. Yeah. It's a uniquely Auckland experience, Tim and Guy going for a coffee. I've moved house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:16 You've moved like this huge change of foot in the world. We're in a different room, which you might be able to hear because I haven't got the old panels up to sort of take off the echo in here yet uh yeah i mean you're freshly moved because i'm sitting in a chair i'm sitting on the ground there's only one chair in this room and there's a few boxes around but i've unpacked most of the stuff the gracious and inferior host that he is has chosen to sit on the ground. Gracious and inferior. I like that.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Yeah, but it's dope. It's rad. My wife Zoe and I are in our own place and it rules with our little dog, Rufus. It's a beautiful, beautiful home you have here, Tim. We had good flatmates, but I've been in the same place for seven years in that one shared house and it was enough yeah I think spiritually this feels like an appropriate and well timed move they say that things go in seven year cycles
Starting point is 00:06:14 eh? who says that? people. man people say all sorts of shit. what else you been hearing out there? I've heard people say you know that you sleep in 20 minute blocks I was trying to figure out what that sound was I've heard people say that you sleep in 20-minute blocks. I was trying to figure out what that sound was. Something was beeping.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It was a truck. Oh, true. The great outdoors. 20-minute blocks. Is that your circadian rhythm? I don't know. I might have made that up. I might be a person saying something. No, no.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I know what you meant. There's like those little cycles, and then they fit into greater cycles. There's something within my head which says that if you're going to nap, you've got to hit that marker. 20 minutes is how long you nap for. But everyone's is slightly different,
Starting point is 00:06:53 which is annoying. Anything longer for me and I'm having a sleep. Yeah, you're down. You know when you wake up after, say, napping for 45 minutes and your body's like, we are asleep. No, because I can't nap.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah, that's right. Because I'm not a baby. I'm a man. Men take naps, Tim. I don't know if that's true. It doesn't sound right to me. Men do all sorts of stuff. How are you doing, Guy?
Starting point is 00:07:17 How's your life? Oh, look, I'm good, Tim. My life's pretty good, thank you. Very busy. And then now, if you were to look at my calendar, you'd say, oh, guy, will you ever work again? And the answer is hopefully yes. But there's certainly a massive transitional period
Starting point is 00:07:33 from having stuff on every day for two months to having nothing on. I've got to stress this. If you're supporting us on Patreon, you guys are MVPs right now because we're engaged in a battle with itunes who potentially like i don't know took us offline in mid-may maybe maybe before it's very hard to tell what has happened i'll tell you what that tells me what the winds of change are blowing
Starting point is 00:07:57 at apple and jeff bezos is going to buy that company do you reckon that is and us being taken off itunes is the first way we find out I don't understand how that works so has he already got his grubby hands into some of the business decisions early before the purchase I think he's got an he's you know he's keeping an eagle eye on us
Starting point is 00:08:17 he's a patreon subscriber yes he's on the inside he knows what we're putting out into the world we haven't figured out which one is his name yet, but he's definitely one of the people. I thought it might be Jbezos007. Nah, too obvious, man. Someone else, I think.
Starting point is 00:08:34 That's quite a cool... Maybe Acera? It's actually quite a cool username. Jbezos007? Maybe. Seems cool that he's... I mean, this is for a different show really But it seems cool he's going to space
Starting point is 00:08:46 That seems relaxing Yeah World's richest man Just going to check out If he can spend some time in space Nothing to see here guys Don't worry about that Super chill
Starting point is 00:08:56 We'll talk about that more On our Patreon podcast Killionaire Yeah Soon The subject matter of which is Undisclosed And can I
Starting point is 00:09:06 Again we don't Generally you know Discuss other media On this show But Friendzone's A bit more loose I've watched Bo Burnham's
Starting point is 00:09:13 New special Twice And then started Listening to the songs On Spotify And first of all Holy shit it's good And secondly
Starting point is 00:09:22 Very great His songs About Jeffrey Bezos. Of which there are several. There's some Bezos content. It's good. It's good stuff. But to circle back to your question, Tim, how am I?
Starting point is 00:09:33 I'm good. I had a wonderful catch up with a friend of the podcast, Joseph Moore, yesterday. Hell yeah. And I took a recreational tramadol. Whoa. I know. And I feel like it didnadol. Whoa. I know. And I feel like it didn't have any impact on me yesterday,
Starting point is 00:09:48 but right now I feel supremely relaxed, quite floaty. Yeah. That's a long tail on that, man. I mean, I might be, you know, it might be placebo. I might just be feeling this anyway and associating it with something I did yesterday. I don't know, but I feel good. I feel really relaxed. You know who briefly was a big fan of the trams who your friend
Starting point is 00:10:08 of mine matt heath and i started working with him yeah who was on your season of taskmaster yes yes yeah he had a um back thing and so he's done a lot of tramadol oh wow i was very proud of him when he kicked it yeah he's very good at breaking habits or addictions or whatever opioids uh you know smoking is just like, nah, fuck it. And he was on a lot of tramadoles. He was like, nah, this is bad. Fuck this. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:29 But they're super addictive, I think. Yes. They can be. Well, yeah. They definitely can be. Anyway, should we get into some mail? You and I. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah, bro. Let's get into some fucking mail. And also, just so people know as well Because there could be some confusion Because right now what's been happening Is people have been getting episodes of podcast In a tree Which has been fun
Starting point is 00:10:56 So we're still doing Emmanuel But we took a little break Blah blah blah What's the point in getting all into it But all of this to say there's more Emmanuel. We will be finishing the journey. Don't worry about that. As quickly as possible.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yes. All right. Letters. This one here is from artist, listener, friend of the show, Stran. And he's written a DM To our Twitter account They got rules Hello boys
Starting point is 00:11:30 This is from May I have a question about the best host competition First for Guy Do you remember what was running through your mind When Tom betrayed you Condemning you to a solo double viewing Of Sexy City Part 2 Tom, same question please answer
Starting point is 00:11:48 this on the friend zone and please say my name happy birthday gee and tom it's uh in reference to strand cole the paul f tompkins video which featured yeah which was an incredible part of the live show uh i well we sort of covered it earlier, but I felt shocked. I was just like, to my eyes, the worst outcome was both of us having to watch it three times or even selfishly me having to watch it three times. And I knew that if I chose not to do that, that it was an impossibility. I trusted you and I was wrong to do that i thought maybe you would see it like me that one screening together is a pretty small bit of medicine to
Starting point is 00:12:36 take i think that you would have learned over the period of years of our friendship that pretty much above everything else, I value entertainment value. Yes. Wouldn't you say? You value entertainment value. Yes, I do. I value it over many other things.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Friendship? Well, apparently so. Eight years of friendship? Yeah. And also I guess you did that securing the knowledge that I am not very good at holding a grudge. And it turns out two and a half, three weeks is all it takes for me to forget that that was probably the greatest and most public humiliation and betrayal
Starting point is 00:13:12 that I have been a part of. I also was applying empathy to this, which I read. This is actually a good example of why empathy is bad. I can't remember what book it was in but someone was was talking about this concept so i was like i will watch these movies gladly for the for the entertainment value of the enterprise itself it's so absurd worst idea enterprises yes well it's so painful and literally no one's asking us to do it and it would suck so bad to watch Sex and the City 2 at all, let alone once, twice or thrice. So I applied my own sort of value set to you
Starting point is 00:13:54 whereas yours is a bit different. You're like, you enjoy entertainment value as well but you enjoy not watching Sex and the City, I would say, more. Yes. Like that delta is wider than for me. Wow. So that's why empathy doesn't always work
Starting point is 00:14:11 because we have different values, you know, different value sets. It sounds like a quite roundabout way of saying you're a huge piece of work. I don't think so. I think the massivest piece of shit will always be Guy on this podcast. Another biggest piece of shit and always be Guy on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Another biggest piece of shit and the best host. Yeah. Take your beans. Here's a letter from December. Do you remember? I'm about to. The 20th of December. Dear blank and Guy.
Starting point is 00:14:42 There's just a space and Guy. I've been wanting to re-listen to season one for a while now, but with COVID haven't had the time. It occurred to me that if one of you guys turns out to be a real piece of shit, I wouldn't be able to listen to old content without being put off. So, boys, if you do something morally reprehensible, please don't get caught. It's a real, like, time-travelery.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah. I mean, you've used future tense but you're referring to content that is in the past and locked away and involved so I respect and appreciate the sentiment but in terms of what you're asking us to do it seems
Starting point is 00:15:18 impossible yes I'm sure I know a few things we've said I've said that have been very bad well Tim but you know you learn and you grow that's right and you atone
Starting point is 00:15:31 and you hope that people can dig your vibe over the body of your work well yeah I don't think it's not binary is it whether or not
Starting point is 00:15:38 someone's good or bad we're all on a journey Bezos Jeffrey Bezos the exception that proves the rule We're all on a journey. Bezos. Jeffrey Bezos. The exception that proves the rule. I've got a monster message here. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I'm going to put everything to... In fact, I might lie down on the cushion on the floor. I think that'll be good. Comes from Canberra. Dear Gom and Bim. It's us. I've just finished my second listen. Sorry, I've already got the phrasing wrong. I've just finished my second listen through
Starting point is 00:16:08 of the first, second, third, fourth series and also Do More and My Week With Cats. I can't include the Rob Schneider stuff in the re-listens. It's just too much. As much as every guest agreed that it's not punching down, the fact that you even thought to ask the question gives you the real answer. The Asian Mama Mexican Kids series was very funny and presented some great concepts and introspection, but I don't know if I can do it again.
Starting point is 00:16:32 The worst idea Schneiderverse crossover is maybe too dark for me. Fascist Buddhist narcissism is too much. Things that stand out immediately on the second run through. Things that stand out immediately on the second run through. All of the things I associated with each series, such as key segments, throughlines, fictional character arcs, always presented much later in the series than I thought. Some things were introduced past Halfways, almost afterthoughts,
Starting point is 00:16:56 but remained the things I had felt defined that series. The high intensity of the repetition, while obviously much harder to endure, makes a much more cohesive season than the Emanuel season has been. Emanuel has still been been good but it kind of feels like 52 episodes of patreon choice watchings because it's a different film each time boner inspector and the greatest listener of all time uh cool characters though so it's not it's it's not like it's a bad season it's just different my week with cats is amazing it's the last thing
Starting point is 00:17:20 i've heard but the short burst of energy and the excitement over the insane efficiency of one bad week producing two months of episodes is great. The Cat's Dercom is long awaited and will be good when it finally comes along. Right. Truth to that. I've got copies of all the films, the first four, Sex and the City 1 and 2, We Are Your Friends and Grown Ups 2
Starting point is 00:17:39 on iTunes, and they are no longer the films they were intended to be. They've become these comedy hybrid films with hours and hours of hidden content and humour and observation. You've taken straw and spun it into gold, and it's truly remarkable. I was even looking at buying Blu-rays of them for a dollar each at a second-hand store so I could hear the actual director's commentary, but decided against it. I don't remember why, but I think it was a good decision. Watching a single film 100 times in a year,
Starting point is 00:18:09 or a random episode of a TV show, or concert or a film stage play etc seems like an awful idea possibly the worst idea the sex in the city pilot live stream was great i don't know how hard it was to write but it would be awesome if you did more of those having progression for dick pop brady coffee guy was something i wasn't expecting but now definitely want to hear more of the twilight timeline of sex in the City is infinitely more enjoyable and greater in scope than the commercial timeline and I think anything and everything you can do
Starting point is 00:18:30 to focus on that and make that something that possibly ends up having one of the actual gals reading her own voice on one of the new upcoming scripts would be amazing
Starting point is 00:18:37 possibly Samantha seeing as she's estranged from the commercial timeline commercial is capitalized and could join the twilight timeline now yeah say my name ps we'll let you know how the third run goes through may include season five if you finished it by the time i finish season four again we'll have to see thanks for making a fucking cool podcast
Starting point is 00:18:57 genuinely great chris malton chris thank you so much for that email. That's a message. It's one of my favorite messages I can remember getting on the Facebook. I mean, on the friend zone. Incredibly comprehensive. So good. Because it gave us some good direction. It gave us some good critique, some feedback.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah, I've got to say, I also enjoyed that. I mean, you know, here's someone who's clearly put in the work. Can I quibble with one point, though? In reference to our segments coming very late in the piece, on the whole true. However, if memory serves, Coffee Guy appeared very early. It's a great point of pride for you, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:19:40 Maybe episode one. You saw Coffee Guy early, you called it, you built it, and the people came. I think it was episode one of that season but apart from that you did right they do come a little bit later on in the piece um to the other points thank you very much for uh what you have to say season five guy thoughts do you regret us doing the em Emanuel's Do you think it's changed too much the spirit Of what the worst idea is about
Starting point is 00:20:07 Which was a fear of ours Mine Spiritually It is different I don't know that I When we were doing it I regret it But not presently during this hiatus It's just
Starting point is 00:20:24 It is what it is You've got to watch something we did it with we are your friends as well you say you're going to do something we start doing it it's kind of how the entire operation works it's uh it's different like thoughtless in a way to me the stuff that you know over the last few years the stuff like the cats, do more, Asian mama, Mexican kids, those little short bursts, short run seasons, that to me is, I enjoy that experience. I like condensing and intensifying the madness. And I like that it's different because I don't edit the podcast,
Starting point is 00:21:04 but I like that it doesn't... You're lazy. Yeah. You're a lazy person. Knowing that we've got so much Emmanuel hanging over us, I carry that weight around with me. Because of your laziness. Yes, because I'm lazy.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yes. Because I am physically and mentally lazy. But yeah, I mean, how do you feel? I think you've articulated it pretty well. But for me, it was less what we have to go through guiding the decision around season five and more around what you, the listener, has to go through. Because I don't know, at some point,
Starting point is 00:21:43 you can't just keep doing the same thing. Even if it you can't you can't just keep doing the same thing even if it's working you can't just keep doing the exact same thing can you i don't think so i get bored too easily and i just don't think it's interesting i don't think even if you have found sick maybe this is something fucked up in my brain but like even if you found success if it's something that's an artful pursuit break it if it's been going good for a while fucking break it smash it to pieces and everyone will get angry at you but you'll be doing something interesting um and you might discover something yeah i don't like sitting still nah fair enough man i've actually got I mean Mah I shouldn't have said anything Say it If you want
Starting point is 00:22:28 There's a message here Yeah From a Twitter user Which is This could be in keeping with what we've been discussing Why were you hesitant to bring this up? Because it's sort of It's broaching a creative venture
Starting point is 00:22:41 That we would undertake together In a public space It's a private conversation happening in a public forum. What the hell? Hi, boys. Would love to see you all do a Do More-esque run on the new film Cruella. It's fucking insane.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Very up your alley. Huh. Interesting. That'll probably be at the Flicks for a little while, eh? It's doing well. Is it? Yeah, People are saying it People are enjoying it From what I've been seeing online Good for them
Starting point is 00:23:13 Very campy And apparently the start of it is not superb But then it gets good I think maybe Emma Stone's in like Three quarters of it But maybe not in the first bit of the movie or something. I tried to take Chelsea to ask Chelsea if she wanted to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And? Absolutely not. She said it looks awful. Really? I have a much, I find sort of campy or bad cinema much more palatable. She's a, you know, she likes to watch good movies or something.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I like to watch whatever the fuck. Amen to that, brother. Sometimes you got to. Fuck, man. Being on the ground holding a microphone stand has made it very hard to operate my device to read the messages. Someone sent us 20 bucks. They're fucking rules. Their name is Ed.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I'm going to say their last name, but they haven't got a message here. Ed Tang. Legend. Oh, here's a message from Ed. Man, I hope he says I'm allowed to say his name. Dear Frosty Fowlers, I wrote to you several years ago to express my gratitude for the stellar work you do.
Starting point is 00:24:17 At the time I asked for a message I could play to my unborn son. You did not disappoint. Did you think that's how I was going to end that sentence? No. Here we are several years later and we now have two boys. Wow. Life
Starting point is 00:24:34 keeps happening. You once did a shout out to any baby babies affiliated with the potty. Well, you've got two boys who are big fans of your work. As a new father you spend many, many, many hours walking around with a push chair and very little sleep. Madness looms.
Starting point is 00:24:51 However, your home run of a podcast has saved my sanity time and time again. I've attached a picture of me and my youngest son on our trip to the friend zone this morning as evidence. You'll be pleased to know in our house, we do a daily review of the day, including a shining light. My son proceeds by shouting, shining light, shining light, shining light. So it even has a jingle.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I'd love a big shout out to my brother Charlie, who I've introduced to your work, who was expecting a girl in February. Who now has been born. Yeah. Good point. I have just sent you $20 as a thank you. Please keep fighting the good fight, you heroes. The world appreciates it.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Love, Ed, Great Britain. It is not included in the surname of the sign-off. So whoops. Here is this gorgeous child in a picture of our podcast being played on his phone it's a beautiful thing i love to see that ed he's because he's from great britain hey what do you want to say to ed ed um thank you for times or just for you know the demarcation of time communicated by us The demarcation of time communicated by us creating something for your unborn son to now when you have two. That's not just a baby now.
Starting point is 00:26:12 That is an older brother. Double trouble. Absolutely. Thank you for listening. I'm glad that we could provide our own version of company and help. You remember sister, sister? Yeah. What's happening with them now? I missed you.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Tia and Tamara. I don't know what's happening with them now i missed you uh t and tamara i don't know what's happening with them i feel like i looked them up recently yeah i saw them pop up for some reason online but i'm not sure why i hope they're still doing well but i doubt that that's the case uh young hollywood stars i've got on google news yeah i've got from a day ago oh Oh, yeah. Tia Mowry Hardrict would totally be up for another show with sister Tamera Mowry Housley, exclusive. Totally be up for it. Yeah, apparently.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Maybe she should talk to her sister instead of the Hollywood Reporter or wherever you're reading that. Pop culture. Popular website, pop culture. Last thing, they had a reality show in 2011 called Tia and Tamera. Three seasons. 2011, that was pretty early. What was the genesis of this reality TV era that we're,
Starting point is 00:27:21 I feel like sort of exiting slowly now. No. You don't think so? No, reality TV will outlive us all. Oh, true. era that we're I feel like sort of exiting slowly now No You don't think so? No, reality TV will outlive us all Oh true, I guess I'm just not watching TV in heaven But I reckon it was what the fuck is his name?
Starting point is 00:27:38 George Orwell Oh no man, the guy from Black Sabbath Ozzy Osbourne The Osbournes People kind of forget about that show but it was like No, man. The guy from Black Sabbath. Ozzy Osbourne. Yeah. The Osbournes. People kind of forget about that show, but it was like early out the gates.
Starting point is 00:27:52 MTV kind of ushered in that. Because it was pre-Kardashians by a bit. And they had Real World before then, which was like groundbreaking. That was OG. People seeing themselves, not just famous people on screen. That was the 90s. I think the thing is reality TV is so cheap to make.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah. And also it's geared towards the way that people like to consume media now, which is... I want to gawk at someone for an extended period. I want to be able to watch and judge people. And reality TV allows you to do that. I've been watching a lot of... There's a New Zealand...
Starting point is 00:28:24 It's called The Apprentice Aotearoa. There's a New Zealand iteration of that god-awful franchise. Our country decided that The Apprentice was a beautiful, seamless, and spotless franchise to kick off again in 2021, the year after Trump left office. We did one season of it previously in like probably 2010, something like that, with a guy called Terry Serapisos at the helm, who I think might be in prison now.
Starting point is 00:28:55 He is in prison now. Like, fucking hell, man. Just make a format that's similar and give it a different name. I don't understand why they always have to pay for these franchise rights because they think the branding is so important. But the thing is that – It's a damaged franchise. It is also arguably the best comedy show airing on New Zealand –
Starting point is 00:29:15 like best New Zealand comedy show on TV right now. The state of – Sometimes. Has it been off for the whole time? No, no, it's been on the whole time. What about now? Yeah, it's been on the whole time what about now yeah it's on cool um what passes as an entrepreneur in the standard set by new zealand reality television is like hilarious you are watching incompetence manifest and it is a
Starting point is 00:29:39 delight i look i literally like i look forward to it every week. Wow. Who are you rooting for on the show? There's no one to root for. I'm just watching people slowly get fired. What about Mike Pirro himself? He is not a natural host. Yeah. And whenever he fires people,
Starting point is 00:30:08 I feel like he's very New Zealand. It's too hard for him to do the firings because the your fires always cut to this insane mid shot of just a hand reaching across the table and pointing. Crazy. So you don't see faces during that moment. You never actually see him saying your fires. That is insane.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Is that because our employment laws are so like strict that we can't actually you know see someone getting fired on air or something i don't know exactly what it is but like it's just it's the same sort of stock it looks like it's from shutterstock it's the same footage of a hand reaching across the table with a different tie in the background tim has got himself why have we decided to do it? I'm up. I've been lying down for a long time, but now I'm outraged. Why have they done it like that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Guy, this is stupid. It sounds insane to me because, oh, God. Has it been doing that the whole? No, no. It's very crazy. It's since you took it out of the stand. Oh, yeah, cool. I'll put it back in.
Starting point is 00:31:04 This is the one time you really want to see people's faces their eyes and their facial expressions is when they're getting delivered or delivering some devastating news it's the crazy thing about this show is like the inability of anyone to take accountability for stuff going wrong is brilliant like they they bomb pretty much every challenge both teams bomb it and then they're being told by the business mentors, they're like, you did badly. Or even in a pitch, they'll be being told by the people they're pitching to that it's going badly.
Starting point is 00:31:32 And they'll just wheel out this laundry list of insane scrambling excuses. It's funny to me if both teams are failing because that also suggests on top of all the competitors being bad, also the people making the show probably not good at pitching where the challenge needs to sit in terms of difficulty. Oh, man. I don't know if they made the show they set out to make.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah. But what they've made is magic. Is magic. Cool, man. All right. I'll fucking tune in for that. Yeah. It sounds good.
Starting point is 00:32:05 One of the challenges was to create a unique promotional tourism like campaign for Hamilton. And one of the teams. The city in New Zealand, by the way, not the musical. They hinged their entire pitch around a duck. There's a unique selling point for Hamilton. It has ducks. And the people,
Starting point is 00:32:32 like they pitched to the mayor of Hamilton and they were like, everywhere has ducks. And the woman who came up with the duck idea was like, nah. Ducks are the most ubiquitous thing you could ever pick like not just does everywhere in new zealand have ducks where the fuck do you not get ducks globally she's like nah nah i grew up on a farm and we had ducks Yeah Everyone's got them
Starting point is 00:33:07 That's so good I'm going to watch this show Yeah We're going to end the friend zone now Okay Because we've got other things that we're going to do Yes All Twiowet related
Starting point is 00:33:17 Get ready for some content everybody Yeah, it's good to be back Thank you so much for listening Thank you so much to everyone who's enjoying and been writing in To say they're enjoying Podcast In A Tree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome, man. I want to make more video stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:30 It is hard, though, because we shot that ages ago, and it takes a bit of a process for me to do the editing and whatnot. But you get it done eventually. This is why you're actually the best host, because you are a one-man engine room. We've done the competition this is this is set in stone it's indisputable binding for all time yeah big time um by the way i don't know if you still can but because i i did try and figure this out and then it got too hard so i
Starting point is 00:33:58 abandoned it which does happen from time to time but i think you can still buy a streaming ticket. And if you do, I will send you the live show so you can watch it as a video on demand. And the first episode of Podcasting a Tree, just in case you're not a Patreon supporter. And what else? There was some other thing in that pack. Is it the live shows from our US tour in London? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Thank you, Guy. The four? Five. You get New York, Chicago, Portland, Los Angeles. And London. London with the very funny Glenn Moore. Yeah. And LA's got PFT, so you know that's good.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah. Okay, everybody. Love you. Leave you. Oh, yeah. If you want one of those tickets, I think, because I took it off the main page. So I think if you go to worstideaofalltime.com slash stream,
Starting point is 00:34:48 I think it's still there. I should probably suss this out. And I will. Bye, everybody. Bye, everyone. Welcome to the friend zone. In the friend zone, you're always home. In the friend zone home You're not alone
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