The Worst Idea Of All Time - Hobbs and Shaw: The Melbourne Live Episode
Episode Date: January 23, 2024What was Jesus up to on Easter? Is Hobbs and Shaw canon? Exactly how big is The Rock’s dick? Tim and Guy may not be able to agree on the answers to these eternal questions, but both can agree that t...he Fast-and-Furious affiliated Hobbs and Shaw is a pretty solid flick. This Melbourne live show, originally taped while deep in the trenches of Fast 8, finds the boyz pleasantly surprised by the film at hand. Tim further explores his complicated relationship with The Rock while trying not to fall afoul of the powers that be. Guy takes issue with the way the film’s tone has changed since Fast 8 before posing a shocking theory about the Idris Elba cinematic universe.Get event and livestream tickets for the TWIOAT 10th Anniversary Special at worstideaofalltime.com! On Feb 10th, exactly a decade after Tim and Guy's first viewing of Grown-Ups 2, the boyz return to Adam Sandler's 2013 opus for a night of reflection, revelry and regret at the Q Theatre in Auckland. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello, I'm not sure if I have lights on me or my voice is big
Oh no, I am being amplified
I feel like God
Yeah man, you look okay too
Thanks buddy, oh there we go there's lights
well now there's heaps of lights on us and our voices are still amplified so now it's feeling
very godly up here hello melbourne how are you are you feeling godly yeah Yeah, you guys. On this Easter Sunday. That's true. That's right.
What was Jesus doing right now?
Do you remember?
He was in the cave, right?
Was he in a cave?
He's up.
Yeah, that's Monday.
He's up.
He's up.
They find out tomorrow.
So Friday he gets nailed.
They put him in the cave.
Sleep.
A little sleepy time. He he got nailed he slept it off
and then the boulder gets
rolled on today Sunday
and then Monday
everyone finds out about it
and they're like this is the guy we want to hang with
I reckon today he's sort of like
oh man I don't know if I want to go back out there
I get the feeling
these people don't like me
that much
I got a chance
for a fresh start
I can get out
luckily he didn't
stick around for too long
afterwards
you went to
a like
Christian school
yeah
I went to an Anglican
do you know
I went to an Anglican school
for all 13 of my
schooling years
so you should know
and I didn't retain anything
well I remember once the chaplain yeah yeah yeah we got some christian motherfuckers up in here but
what i remember is the chaplain from my uh primary school he had a heart attack he died
and then got brought back to life and came back to chapel the next week and he was like what's up i seen god and everyone was like
everyone was like no man you saw paramedics you're fucking lucky
did he did you know like how dead was he did he did he was he was dead for like a minute that's
so sick man i always hear stories about that and i don't know if it is reflecting the fact that we
need like new terminology for that because like if you're dead you know you should that should be final reserve that term for people who aren't coming back but
people like i was dead for 12 minutes and it's like well i don't you're here telling me about
it so i don't know if that's the case yeah but mostly dead yeah mostly dead it's sort of i mean
there's this whole other thing i like this guy on the front row. He's part of the show now. This is great. Hey, so folks.
Wait.
In that sentence,
is mostly an adjective or an adverb?
Ah, adjective.
You don't dead,
you don't deading.
You know, he, she, we dead.
That doesn't work.
I am deading right now.
Yeah, you wouldn't say that, would you?
No.
Mr. Fucking Duke, you're giving me so much beef on the spelling bee.
Your grammar is terrible.
I'm not fucking explaining grammatical concepts up there.
I'm just assigning words to idiots like you.
Did anyone, just by round of applause,
did anyone see the spelling bee that Guy did that I was on a couple of weeks ago?
That was like an invigorating experience
of getting so bullied by Guy
in his dojo,
like a full room that he had brought people into
and then just fucked me up.
It was like Fight Club.
It was like getting beaten in the face.
It was like, this is new.
This is exciting.
Honestly, it was so nice.
It's nice to have like a framework
in which to bully you
and it's been
do you know what
I'll say this
you know obviously
we've watched a film
and actually
for context
some of you I imagine
have been brought here
and you don't know
what the fuck this is
shout out to all the partners
oh on an
easter sunday man that is rough i don't know how many people that applies to but that's that's a
rough use of it make some noise if you have no idea why you're here or who we are it's not a bad
turnout it's pretty good it's more than zero i I wouldn't do it. I would not do it.
If someone was like,
you're going to come to this podcast,
and I'd be like,
what's the concept?
And they'd explain,
I'd be like,
you have fun,
but I don't need that.
Tell me about it afterwards. I've got a whole Sunday to look forward to.
I don't need this.
Hard out.
But anyway,
we're here,
and we're so grateful that you're here.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you so much, King.
But what I wanted to say,
before we get into the weeds
of discussing this non-canonical,
but still very important, Fast and the Furious spin-off.
Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true.
It's non-canon.
It is canon.
Joseph Moore told us.
Joseph Moore done no shit.
I've been on the Wikipedia page.
It's not canon.
Is it?
Well, I don't know.
Someone might have written it.
I don't want to talk about yeah i want to say i've had such a nice time being in melbourne with you yes i mean i really have do you know and the other day because nearly always this work and
you messaged me actually you said what are you doing today and then before i could even reply
you said in all caps i am not going to ask you to work. I am messaging you as a friend. I did.
Because I had to.
Because I know the feeling that that message from me must elicit.
Because you've been going hectic, man.
You're doing so many shows over here.
You're doing all sorts of stuff.
And then you get a message from Timbo going,
hey, what are you doing right now?
Have you got a microphone in your mouth right now?
Because you fucking should, you dog. And so so what we did we went together and we lay down
uh in the fitzroy gardens and it was i mean you got some good gardens in the city if those gardens
were in new zealand that'd be like the main feature and here they're just some fucking
throwaway gardens in between other landmarks and it was so i felt so connected to you tim and i love you like a brother and i'm uh i'm
i'm i am i'm sorry that we have to talk about the movie now hey it's okay i've had a fantastic time
hanging out with you um i'm i'm i'm out of here in like 36 hours on a plane back home yeah you'll
be your city is tremendous and now to the topic at hand, Fast and Furious presents Hobsonshaw.
Yeah.
So for the six or so uninitiated in the room,
Tim and I are currently,
we're reviewing the Fast and the Furious franchise backwards
and with a descending number of views
that correspond to when the movie was released in the franchise so that means we've
we've done fast nine nine times fast eight eight times seven seven six and so on and so forth and
the only way to do the live show was to do something which was i would say non-canonical so
a movie that exists in the universe but it's not it's not canon and you could ask anyone that
you could ask anyone who's familiar with the intellectual property
and they'll tell you this shit is not canon.
And so today I went around to Tim's Airbnb in North Melbourne
and I scaled some very narrow wooden steps.
They're crazy, yeah.
And I almost knocked myself out on quite a low beam.
Yeah, I forgot to warn you about that.
Sorry.
And then we lay down in Tim's bed
and we watched Hobbs and Shaw,
which it's a long time to be lying down and awake.
Two hours and 20 minutes.
We did the whole credit sequence too,
which we don't always do,
but there were Easter,
I mean, talk about an Easter treat.
There were Easter eggs strewn throughout the names of the stunt coordinators and catering companies.
We were on our own little Easter egg hunt.
That's right.
In the credit sequences.
And, you know, I'm proud of us.
I think I got home last night at like four.
My man.
What makes you so cool?
How do you do it?
I was born this way, baby.
Can't develop what I've got.
Who else was born this way?
Lady Gaga.
She was born that way.
She was.
You guys have made of the same stuff.
I reckon The Rock was as well.
I reckon he came out of the womb like that.
The Rock was born different.
He's different.
He's built different.
So.
He carries himself different. He's built different. So... He carries himself different.
Let me... How big?
Go on.
Relative to his body, how big does his cock look?
You can juice up your chest, you can juice up your arms and legs,
but you cannot get your cock musclier than it already is.
It would get lost on that canvas
it would look like
a smudge
you'd be trying
to get it off
you'd be trying
to get it off
because it's
interrupting
yeah because you'd
be like this is
yeah yeah this is
ruining the thing
because everything
else is to scale
yeah and then
he's just got a
man's penis
you ever think about that
Jason Statham
he'd have a good looking cock
he really would
it would be perfectly
to scale
and I reckon
he'd shave his pubes
to have that
five o'clock stubble
yeah
you know like
a great instance
of the
AstroTurf
matching the AstroTurf
I guess
I don't know
yeah like
his cock and balls
are also British.
There's something very British about pubic stubble, I think.
What?
So you're just going to choke me until I spew?
That's his cock.
When he goes to masturbate, that's what his cock says to him.
I don't know about all that.
Is he trying to get his hand on it and his balls are doing like kung fu on his fingers?
Swinging around? All right around Alright well since we're here
So you
You talking about
The Rock's penis
Do you reckon he juices?
What? Roids?
Yeah
It's hard to imagine he doesn't
That messes with your junk long term
No one can look like that I think
And avoid roids the whole time.
And also, I think there's no reason to avoid roids unless you're in the Olympics.
And last time I checked, The Rock is not an Olympian.
No, yeah.
He doesn't have that on his...
So I reckon I'm backing you as SmudgeCon.
Oh, you think it's not even...
And it's not even just the size he was born with.
You think it's getting...
Is that truly what happens on steroids?
I think...
I don't...
Yeah. I should probably start taking steroids then. The size he was born with You think it's getting Is that truly what happens on steroids? I think I don't Yeah
I should probably start taking steroids then
Alright
Alright Monty
Okay
He's all excited for the big show
Head full of steam
This is a huge opportunity for me
He's gone off book
There are six people we can convince we're funny right now
I liked this movie
I'm not going to disagree with you Tim
It is a welcome departure from the Fast and the Furious universe
Do you want to know why?
They've got real music in it
Actual fucking songs there's one
bit where uh we'll explain the plot in just one moment but they reference kind of in a um
what is it from where it's like a heist movie and they name it after celebrities like the
difference oh oceans 11 they do it like old hollywood celebs I think it's a bit of a trope in the heist genre
and so
Shaw
has these
series of set ups
that he's developed
as a child with his sister
yeah yeah
and the next one of them
are Keith Moon
and they got the rights
to The Who
and they played The Who
and I'm like
what the fuck is this
a good movie
yeah
are you shitting me
it's
it was jarring
to hear like a song
that you already know
in this exciting new context.
I mean,
it's not a shock
they had the money
to get the rights to The Who.
The budget for the movie
was $200 million.
I think
what's more
What's more remarkable
is the refusal
for other Fast and Furious movies
to use,
like they continue to insist on using the score that I assume Vin Diesel's daughter composed.
Shots fired.
Shouldn't do anything to you, man.
But it was interesting because they've got a move called the Keith Moon,
which is like explosions of percussion.
So it's a lot of explosives and there's a lot of noise.
You know what that's about, eh?
Because Keith Moon
was the drummer
no because he used to put
pyrotechnics on the drum kit
and apparently one time
he put
fucking way too much in
and blew himself up
I did not know that
are you making that up
no that's real
that's true
and that's what they'll be
he lived a life innit
yeah
because he
was he 27 club
yeah he died young
and he was the one
who like drove a car
into a hotel pool
it was either him
or Brett McKenzie
from Flight of the Conchords
historians to this day
continue to debate
but they had another one
they have another set up
so it's a trope
twice in the movie
they've got the Keith Moon
and it's told in flashback
where you see young
Jason Statham and his sister
doing the Keith Moon
and then later on
in the movie
they go and the Mick Jagger
and you're like fuck I can't wait to see what Rolling Stones song they use.
They don't play any Rolling Stones.
They just have something called the Mick Jagger in silence, it would seem.
And it's fucked up.
It's stupid.
It's a nasty tease.
You would have to think that they wrote, shot, got the film completed,
and then the producers were like, it's going to cost fucking how much?
No, no, no, no, no. Because, and to credits, but you can see where they spend a lot of the money and I believe they called action sequences
This movie is not light on those has anyone here just so we know who's familiar seen Hobbs and Shaw
That's not many those are the same people who haven't heard of us
That's not many.
Those are the same people who haven't heard of us.
So for the rest of you, I don't know how familiar people are
with the Fast and the Furious franchise,
but Hobbs and Shaw, it takes place between...
Do you want to do a one-minute plot?
Okay, sure.
I'll time you.
It takes place between Fast 8...
This is set and setting.
Between Fast 8 and Fast 9.
And it stars The Rock and Jason Statham.
You want me to do it?
You ready?
Yeah.
And go.
There's a sexy woman who's an MI6 agent and she's trying to get a virus.
But Idris Elba in some sort of crazy suit that gives him superpowers stops her.
And so she injects the virus into herself and runs away.
And then The Rock and Jason Statham wake wake up and they have different mornings but the same
morning and then they're told they have to work together by ryan reynolds and rob delaney to
retrieve the vital to recover the woman and retrieve the virus before idris elba can get it
and then everyone's finding the woman and everyone and they're trying to get the virus out and idris
elba's on their tail 30 seconds and Well, then they go to Samoa,
and they have a big fight,
and they use traditional Samoan weapons,
and the good guys win.
Tidy.
Three o'clock, 40 seconds.
There are some other stuff I left out,
but that's the broad strokes.
That's the cut and thrust of it.
Yeah.
And, you know, that was surprisingly efficient. Do you know what the secret is? You don't get the cut and thrust of it. Yeah. And, you know, that was surprisingly...
Do you know what the secret is?
You don't get bogged down in the weeds.
Yeah.
Look at the flowers up the top.
You don't need to look at the weeds.
It's sort of our job to get bogged down in the weeds, though.
That's sort of what we get to do.
Oh, yeah, conversationally, we'll now get into the weeds.
The meta plot is that Idris Elba is part of a sort of global conspiracy of techno...
I don't want to call't call them utopians there was a lot that made this movie feel unique from fast and the furious movies and the villain's exposition
and the like care and detail applied to the backstory yeah and it's like this is marvel
sort of or traditional superhero photo where it's like there is a logical entry point to believe
that the villain has a genuine
reason for what they're doing they're not doing it just because they want to create carnage he's
doing it because he thinks it's it's i think follow tonally a similar thing to winter soldier
and i say that as someone who has never seen winter soldier but based on tim's got great
instincts for this stuff though everything i hear and feel and vibe about Winter Soldier, I'm like, yeah, that's what's playing out here.
What's Winter Soldier?
Captain America.
Who's that?
What do you mean?
He's an Avenger.
Oh, okay.
It's in the...
Are they in Marvel?
Yeah, it's Marvel stuff.
You've seen a Marvel, right?
Yeah, I thought those guys were DC.
Is he friends with the Elastic Man?
They're DC. what have you seen uh have you seen an avengers
who's in who's in those ones like everyone that's sort of the point the point is it's all of them
so you've got they all come together who are the stars tell me the actors names oh shit oh robert downey jr yeah i've seen him
yeah yeah sweet okay so i see him around scarlett johansson yeah i went to her one
she had her whole lone one you went to that one
whoa yeah i don't know why how was it it was all was alright. I didn't totally get... I didn't get it.
She looks after herself, though.
She looks good, that Scarlett Johansson.
It has been said.
She's not in this movie, Hobbs and Shaw.
No, no.
None of those superheroes are.
I can see her in Fast and Furious.
Idris Elba's character, he used to work with Jason Statham in the army,
and then he went rogue, and he teamed up with a company called
etienne yeah it was similar to etihad well no i think so the etians uh this like cabal of uh
elites that are trying to well they're using a virus to wipe out humanity to rebuild them as
like supercomputers android cyborgs at one point
Idris Elba's a cyborg in this
which
fucking
rules
yeah
he's like
you said he got his powers
from his suit
in the plot synopsis
which I'll exclude
because you were running
against the clock
but really
he's Robocop
they made Robocop
Idris Elba
yeah
so fly
at last
a black Robocop
am I right
about time at last I checked it's 2023 you know I think they should make Idris Elba Yeah So flop At last a black Robocop Am I right? About time
So last I checked
It's 2023
You know
I think they should make
A dog Robocop
I think that exists
What's it called?
Robodog
I think that's a thing
Canine
Canine
And it's spelt
K and nine I'll bet
Yeah yeah
Have you seen it?
It's Doctor Who
Hold on
Nerd alert Hold on I'll bet yeah yeah have you seen it it's Doctor Who hold on nerd alert
what a wrestle control
back from the audience
these are smart people
they know what's up
true
they know a lot about theology
and the movie Canine
do you know
does anyone know about
oh yeah anyway
we walked past
the Melbourne Theosophical
Society does anyone know what goes on in there Oh, anyway, where I was going with that. We walked past the Melbourne Theosophical Society.
Does anyone know what goes on in there?
I asked people for what the word means and no one knew.
I fucking watched a YouTube video about it like six months ago
and I cannot remember.
Is it like Theosophical Philosophy?
Is that like a pan-religious Kind of humanist bent
They believe in
Not humanist
Okay
Humans are bad
No one knows
No one knows
No one's been allowed in
It's a nice building
Here's what I was thinking right
Okay
I'm seeing this cabal
Called the Eteans
And I'm like
It's fucking Eton
Because it's British
This is the elite private UK school that births all the prime ministers.
It's like nine out of 10 British prime ministers come from this one school.
And I'm like, someone had some fucking fun with this script
because it's about people who secretly control the world called Etonians.
Yeah.
Right.
Etonians.
And this is pretty fucked up.
When did this movie come out?
2017?
2019.
It's pretty fucking COVID-y, dudes.
Like, the virus is called CT17.
It's developed in a lab.
And they want to, like...
Okay?
Buy the elites.
To be spread globally and robocop is in charge of the whole fucking thing or he's their weapon we actually don't
know who the guy in charge is but my money's on ryan reynolds you know what i looked it up
you are not wrong ryan reynolds keanu Reeves was in negotiations to do the voice
of the supercomputer
in charge of Etienne
but Ryan Reynolds
worked a double shift
so it's not the character
that Ryan Reynolds
plays in the movie
that's what they
fucking want you to think
he's the voice
he does the voice
it's him
it's the fucking character
but he's credited
under a different name
like Chippy Sweetness
or something
so in that family
you laugh
it's in that family
I didn't laugh
they laughed
you never laugh.
No.
I was so stoked to see...
There's a lot of cameos in this as per...
This is what Fast and Furious movies do.
The star power in Hobbs and Short...
There's a few reasons why I think it hits harder
than a Fast and Furious movie.
Namely, it just feels less self-serious.
They have better music.
It's packed with stars.
And the star power feels more
because you recognize the stars
from movies that exist outside
of the Fast and the Furious franchise.
And that cannot be said
for the Fast and the Furious franchise.
So all of these actors,
they've created this whole fucking ecosystem
that they just, you know,
they would do them without anyone watching, I believe.
Your experience of a cameo
is like
Vin Diesel's in this one
he's fucking from
Fast and Furious
yeah yeah
that's what I say
every time we watch
a Fast and Furious
he's back for another
extended cameo
roll call
who do we see
we see Ryan Reynolds
comes real early
Rob Delaney
Rob Delaney
Helen Mirren
yeah she's in some
prior ones though
I think
but yeah but she's cameo prior ones, though, I think.
But yeah, but she's cameoing.
This is true.
Now, we were so fucking delighted to see Cliff Curtis show up as the Rocks brother.
Very cool.
You should clap.
Thank you very much.
New Zealand's own.
He's got the range, man.
He's got the range, Cliff Curtis.
He rocks.
Equatorial range.
Equatorial, that's right.
He can play someone from any continent
and never be accused of cultural appropriation.
That's talent.
I've tried it.
It was the day before we've been at smartphones
when I got away with it.
How'd it go?
Well, I wasn't popular on set.
Cliff Curtis is The rock's brother in this
and the whole third act of this movie
feels like a whole other movie bolted on
and I kind of fucking love it when movies do that.
They're just like,
let's just fucking do something else.
You guys are probably bored.
It's a classic thing
when they basically finish the movie
and they're like,
we need another problem.
So we travel to Samoa
and we find out that the Rock copped his own dad,
which in my mind makes him a big villain.
You're using some sort of criminal slang
when you say copped his own dad.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
So his dad was like,
it sounded to me like kind of a low-level crime,
but then he sipped the police onto his own dad and that estranged him from his family which is
why he had to leave some more and never come back yeah but that's a sick back
story and they're kind of review it's like the fact that the rock signed up to
the X I know he changes a lot of his characters he doesn't like certain
aspects and speaks to what a little bitch he is in real life that he he's
like yeah that's a cool guy that I want to play.
A guy who fucking narked on his own dad.
His dad could have been a bit mean.
Everyone's dad's a little bit mean.
Your dad's lovely.
He's super lovely.
Super lovely guy.
Has he been mean to you before?
Surely.
He's a dad.
You have to.
Have you been mean to your toddler surely he's a dad you have to have you been me have you been mean to your toddler not yet but i will
why what do you mean why why would you do why would you do that because you'll need it when
he gets older but he hasn't he doesn't he hasn't needed you're gonna make him steal a car
you wouldn't steal a car? You wouldn't steal a car.
But Remy might.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, well, it depends.
It's contextual.
I wouldn't get mad at him just for stealing a car.
It depends what led up to it, you know?
He was bored.
So The Rock is estranged from his family.
And they like, so yeah, we've kind of glossed over a lot of it.
What now?
Go ahead.
I just want to say there's another cameo.
There's a few.
There's a big one we left out.
On the plane, Jason Statham and The Rock are doing, they're doing this extended back and forth where they're going.
Oh, fucking Paul Blart Mall Cop 2 style.
Yeah, yeah, they're going, well, I'm like this and you're like that.
And he goes, well, no, you're actually more like this and I'm like that.
And they're going on and on.
And then they're like, do you know what this scene needs?
Kevin Hart.
And Kevin Hart.
They weren't wrong.
He's just sitting in front.
He turns around.
He's an air marshal.
And literally the most famous comedian in the world,
Tim goes, now who's that guy?
No, no, no.
I didn't say who's that guy.
I think it was a reflection of how much,
how hydrated my brain was at the time.
I was like, what's his fucking name again?
And you said, it's Kevin.
Dave Chappelle.
It's Kevin Hart.
He's basically the most famous person in the world
which is fucking true
and it was fun to see him
all of the cameos
were well deployed
because they didn't
overstay their welcome
yeah
he was in it for
yeah
yeah
the
you don't like The Rock
nah
did you like
did you
did any
did you enjoy The Rock's
company at all
during this movie
I know you love Stath.
Love Stath.
And the appearance of Stath has necessitated
The Rock being there to make it happen,
so I'll forgive it.
But any bit that The Rock's in without Stath,
I'm like, fuck, this scene needs to be cut.
Get rid of this dialogue.
If I think about this movie relative to the other
Fast and the Furious
movies we've watched
which
I mean
you know
it's in the nature
of the project
quite fun initially
yeah
and then
eventually quite exhausting
that's true
I
was sort of taken
by how much more
this felt like
a traditional movie
like how
I was enjoying
the world
of Hobbs and Shaw
it's it's fucking quintessentially
us that there's one movie nestled in this franchise which is actually halfway decent
it's like yeah that's the one we're gonna do a one-off yeah well that's what i was thinking i
was watching i was it feels very odd that um we would do a podcast after just basically hanging
out watching a movie together it always feels like it's meant to be harder than this.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a bit of a luxury item.
It was.
And that's why it's just a one-off special treat, Monty.
Don't get used to it.
Don't get too comfy with that bathwater.
You wait until we watch Fast and the Furious 1.
Or I believe in...
They just call that Fast and the Furious.
One time, though.
Yeah, I know.
Like it's good, but...
We're going to be on a fucking bottle rocket by the end of this season.
You know that?
100%. It's going to be on a fucking bottle rocket by the end of this season. You know that? 100%.
It's going to be sliding through.
I feel like we've forgotten another cameo
that's in there too.
No.
Well, we haven't mentioned
the woman who plays the MI6 agent
who's...
I don't know the actor's name.
Vanessa Kirby.
Tim does though.
You looked it up for me
and have forgotten it since doing so.
I just remembered that the character
is called Hattie.
Yeah.
And she's fucking cool.
She is cool.
Well, yeah.
She was cool as hell.
She makes some interesting choices, though.
Like what?
I don't know.
There's some lines she delivers.
Because her whole thing is she states brother right,
so she's like uber cool and hyper capable,
but then some lines she's like,
what's going on here?
Well, yeah, because you know how woman be.
They do have a scene where she's shopping for half an hour and it's like this doesn't need to be here she's got a she's got a live virus in her he teases but you know
do you think hobson shore is a reflection of society
that's your next question my answer is yes a thousand times is that what the world's like
of a stronger cultural metaphor for the times we live in than fast and furious presents hobs and
sure tell me all about it show me you're working well last time i started talking about man-made
viruses the audience got pretty uncomfortable about it.
Do you know what your earlier question about did I enjoy any bits with The Rock in it?
I liked when he went home to Samoa
and seeing his brother hate him.
That was cool.
And just getting a bit of context.
Well, it's boring to have a character who's just...
Because The Rock is Superman, right?
And Superman is fucking boring,
because he can just,
oh,
he can fly,
and he's got laser vision,
and he can see through walls,
and he's like,
invincible.
Lame.
And also,
I think that,
I think that the broader issue,
which is what they transplant onto The Rock,
in these movies,
is also infallible.
Yeah.
Like,
there's no,
there's no complexity,
there's no depth.
He's just, he's a great single dad.
He's a great agent.
Yeah.
He's a friend to all.
Everyone loves him.
He's got these quippy lines that people enjoy,
but are actually turd lines.
They're bad things that he says.
Wish I'd written some down,
but just take my word for it, folks.
They're bad.
And I, like, Ryan Reynolds delivers all of his lines
with this cadence that he has in every movie
because he knows what he can do and he does it did you write something I wrote I sent it some
some of them to you on Facebook messenger yeah guys gotten into the habit of using our messenger
exchanges as notes app it was like send me like a couple of words about what's this he's like
don't worry about it's for later on I actually I just changed
from Samsung
to Apple
and I didn't know
how to get
like all of the
Samsung notes over
so I literally
copied and pasted
my entire comedy
festival show
and sent it to Tim
in Messenger
and it was like
just ignore that
it's my show
and then I performed it and I killed.
I mean, they're good jokes.
So, no, at the start, when they're doing the, they both, there's a split screen to establish that they're the same but different at six o'clock, which I talked about in my 40 second summary of the plot.
But eventually they go through their mornings.
Jason Statham's drinking a beer.
He's had a one night stand.
The Rock's having an egg smoothie and helping out his daughter or whatever.
They both eat eggs, which I like.
Because in some ways they're different, but in
other ways, they both like eggs.
Absolutely. And you can't
beat nine eggs in the morning for high
quality. We are also, sorry,
in addition to Universal sponsoring this season, we're
now in the pocket of Big Egg.
And we're so happy
to be there. We've we've been told to...
We're in the cloaca of Big Egg.
Yeah, yeah.
We've been told to call it
the shell inside of the cloaca.
We're on the inner sanctum of the egg.
But eventually in that day,
they both come to fight some bad guys
because they're independent of knowing
why they're looking for the virus.
And The Rock,
when he comes across the bad guys,
he says to them,
this is his line,
which is an example of the dog turd lines.
He says, I'm an ice cold can of whoop-ass.
And you just think, fuck off, fuck off.
I mean, I feel you on this.
Everything he says and does is optimized to reach the broadest number of people.
Yes, exactly. on this like everything he says and does is optimized to like reach the broadest number of people yes exactly and that i hate that uh territory culturally of just super broadness because it's it's this boring kid-friendly place where like art dies and creativity and i feel like
the rock is the king of that space and i hate hated about it. But conversely, because you texted me this,
so I know you wrote it down.
What states, so states has a quippy line as well.
Well, he goes in, he's in like,
he's in the champagne room at a bar.
And he says-
He refers to himself as-
A champagne problem.
And it's not bad.
That's cool.
It's like, what does it mean?
It's so like, I kind of get the vibe.
Even better, he lops the top of a champagne bottle
and pushes, like, from the jagged end up into someone's neck.
You're wrong.
I was wondering why you reacted so...
And then he slams the bottle into their neck.
It's fully closed.
It's unopened.
It's just a blunt force trauma, which is still bad.
Nah, nah, nah.
Because then at the end he's holding it and he said... It's only a blunt force trauma which is still bad because then at the
end he's holding it and he said it's only cool if you're lacerating arteries
fucking coward but anyway a champagne problem is is definitely like a little line i could see
myself saying later on you can't carry it i absolutely you can't carry it i can't but it's
it's cool.
I feel...
It's exciting.
Before we were talking about that,
there was something I wanted to get into about...
I can't remember.
Was it to do with The Rock and Samoa?
You were talking about The Rock.
No, after Samoa,
you were talking about where art goes to die.
Yes.
I can't believe it.
Where everyone agrees it's the most boring place.
That's The Rock.
That's why he's going to be the president.
Oh, no, this is what I wanted to talk about do you think and it's independent of the oscars slap but
you know how like will smith was the king of the box office he was the most beloved charismatic
actor like he was number one a1 superstar yeah and then eventually there was just a point of
exhaustion of the world sort of tired of him it's no one really turned on him they just became
disinterested and he chose he tried to diversify his acting portfolio,
maybe choose projects that weren't as...
purported blockbusters that weren't as popular.
Is there going to be a tide change against The Rock?
Is The Rock a Scientologist?
Does anyone know?
Does anyone know if The Rock has...
Do you know Tom Cruise wouldn't let The Rock be a Scientologist?
Well, you know Will Smith's a huge Scientologist, right?
Wait, isn't he?
Have I made that up?
He is, eh?
Yeah.
What are they up to, the Scientologists?
We got any in?
Dog, honestly?
You know I talk a lot of shit about a lot of people in this podcast.
I do not want to fuck with them.
That shit's real, man.
I don't want to get into that.
Are they the Illuminati
basically
really
are they here
are they everywhere
do we
we've got them in Auckland
dog I'm going to send you
a Wikipedia article
after this
because I can't remember
the name of it but they
conducted this operation in the 80s
I think where they and it's like historic
because they were the most successfully
infiltrated every area of the US
government and there was
like the judicial the executive it was fucking
crazy and are they still there
probably aye you're not actually comfortable
talking about this no man
because I don't think
anyone else would bother
to get me,
but like,
you know,
they seem like
petty and widespread.
They don't like people
talking shit about them.
They really don't.
Fuck Scientologists.
And that's the policy
of both Tim and Guy
on the worst idea of all time.
Yeah, right on.
I don't know if The Rock's in there.
But, I mean...
He's like, you know, he could be there.
Whether he is or isn't, do you think...
You know, we're talking about how he's always going...
We're supposed to be talking about Hobson Shaw, but Gal...
The broadest possible audience.
Is there going to be a tide change against The Rock?
Are people going to get sick of his shtick?
Yeah, yeah, it's happening right now.
Is it actually?
The Black Adam stuff.
What did he do?
Fuck.
See, this is like me and Winter Soldier.
I don't fucking have all the...
You've not watched the movie?
Absolutely not.
Let's talk about it then.
I thought you saw it at Shazam.
I saw the movie Shazam when it came out a while ago.
But not Shazam 2?
No, no, no. Okay. I don't have to collect all of them. I just the movie Shazam when it came out a while ago. But not Shazam 2? No, no, no.
Okay.
I don't have to collect all of them.
I just go randomly.
Yeah, nice.
It's kind of a cool way to go.
Yeah, because I lived my whole life.
So I don't have to fucking see
all the Marvel movies
because I'm not an idiot.
Yeah, nice.
Get their ass.
You're going to have some big hitters
on this episode, man.
Yeah.
Fuck Marvel
and fuck Scientology
yeah you got it yeah
and Cliff Curtis if he wants to do
any accent I give him
permission
he can do that
I want to
meet him I would love to tell him I saw sam neill in a bookshop about six months ago
did you yeah and i said man i love what you do and he he didn't want any part of it yeah fair
that's fair i totally agree cool cool to share a space with him though you know
i was quite taken by him he's fair enough yeah yeah That's a man with mana He can do all the accents too
I give him
I give him permission as well
Interesting
In fact Tim
I give you permission
To do some accents
I think if you want to do
A Chinese accent right now
That's your call
But I give you permission
Cool as man
Good to know
Good to know
I'll be keeping that permission
Firmly in my back pocket
Where it will stay
unused and barely
acknowledged
you can even do it
in your show tonight
without the context of this
you could just do that
if you wanted
you could do that
thanks man
really appreciate you
wow people say I don't give
but I give
Cliff Curtis rules
and he feels
slightly like
like he
he's
he occupies for me
he's too good for the movies
like Helen Mirren, you see her turn up and you're like
really? Okay. Cliff Curtis rocks up
I'm like but you're a fucking
Do you know what? They're allowed to have fun though
He's in a lot of action movies too
And it's a fun one for them
For Cliff Curtis, if I look at it from Cliff Curtis'
perspective, this script comes across my
desk and they've already
filmed two thirds
of the movie
and they're like
hey Cliff
we need to film
a whole other third
of a movie
we just found out
you're the star
it's in Samoa
you're acting
opposite The Rock
and he'd be like
fucking A
I go to Samoa
I get to act
against The Rock
I get to punch him
in the face
and he falls down
a flight of stairs
I fucking hate that guy I'll sign up you know because i reckon the rock would allow so few
people to do that to him in a movie to actually like lay him out but that's the kind of respect
that cliff curtis commands can i say something i found to be totally inconsistent between fast
eight and hobson sure i'd love for you to point this out so in in Fast Eight, the gang all have to work together.
And they have to work with Jason Statham,
who had historically been a villain in the Fast and the Furious universe in Fast Seven.
And they also work together.
And the Rock and Jason Statham are having a bit of back and forth.
They really don't like each other.
They hate each other's guts because of what's happened in Fast Seven.
But eventually, due to circumstance, they have to work together.
And they become quite chummy. They even say to each other you know what in a
different time if we work together we're gonna kick some ass sewing the seeds for a spin-off
non-canonical hobson shore and then at the start of hobson shore we see them both living their
lives independent of each other and the setup for the movie is you know they're talking to the rock
brian reynolds is talking to the rock and he's like you're the only one who can do this we need you to save the day
and they're always like okay and he's like and we're gonna get you a partner and he's like i
work with a partner and they're like you're gonna need this partner and i said the same thing to
jason statham rob delaney says the same thing and then they get together yeah and they immediately
go back to where their relationship was at the start of fast eight even though there's an entire
movie inside of the cinematic universe in which they mend that bridge and actually start working where their relationship was at the start of Fast 8, even though there's an entire movie
inside of the cinematic universe
in which they mend that bridge
and actually start working together
and even openly opine to one another
and the audience that they'd make quite a formidable team.
Then the entire first half of their time working together,
they are still fighting with one another
as though they didn't show us in the last half of Fast 8
that they're actually teammates already.
And we're not meant to ask fucking questions about that. I can tell you're worked up about this. they didn't show us in the last half of Fast 8 that they're actually teammates already. Yeah.
And we're not meant to ask fucking questions about that. I can tell you're worked up about this.
I think it's like when you haven't seen...
Do you know what it is?
Like sometimes when you've got a particular relationship
with a sibling
and when you like first get back together with them,
you just revert to the sort of default
and then when you hang out for a while,
you get cool again.
But if you, you know, then you're apart for a week and then you come back together and you go out for a while you get cool again but if you
you know
then you're apart for a week
and then you come back together
you go back to default
I gotta deal with you again
it's like that
I reckon
so they had this opportunity
of
this whole movie by the way
takes place over the course
of 48 hours
which is
that's the run time
it's shot like 24
yeah
they had gone for kind of
a 24-esque.
I mean, it's obviously not in real time,
but it's a very limited window.
And they really fucking throw it in and out a lot.
The thing that pissed me off the most,
which I think speaks to how much better this movie is
than all the other Fast and Furiouses we've seen,
which is two.
A lot, though.
Vanessa Kirby's face She gets scarred
She gets like
She gets fucked up
She gets bloodied
And she gets scars
It's so petty of you
To care about this
And then it's gone
Between scenes
And then she gets bruised
And battered again
And then she's perfect again
And I'm like
But there's a fucking
Like timer strapped to her
So we know
This is all going on
Within a day
Yeah
And it's
And then when we're in Samoa
The start of the action sequence Happens when it. Yeah. And then when we're in Samoa,
the start of the action sequence happens when it's...
Dawn.
Dawn.
And then, like, no shit,
because you can map it out
because they've provided a stopwatch for you.
Eight minutes later,
it's the middle of the day,
and they're all exteriors.
I'm like, just fucking don't start the thing at dawn.
There would have been a very tired colour gradist
being like... Imagine me on continuity, just thing at dawn. There would have been a very tired colour greatest being like...
Imagine me on continuity, just screaming at him.
And they're like, Tim, no one's going to care, dude.
This is a you problem.
And you're like, you've got no idea I've got plans for this franchise.
I don't want to have to stare down my mistake.
I didn't...
I mean, that didn't...
You didn't care. Well, it's just you know it's a it's a i didn't care well it's just a
it's it happens to both of us in different places where it's like to me it's a very odd thing to get
hit up about it's like oh what the scarring was inconsistent between scenes because i was
following along using the journey of her face her face tells a tale because we first see her and
she's this like flawless supermodel and then she
gets banged up which represents the vulnerability of the seemingly invulnerable character but then
they erase that by having her flawlessly made up again and then they fuck her up again and they
wear it on her face and then they fucking clean her up again i'm like what am i supposed to believe
hobson shore you're supposed to believe in believe in the healing power of this human body.
Have you seen a kid with a graze?
Yeah.
It heals so fast.
The way people are laughing, that sounded a lot worse than it was meant to.
I was like, I could get into it.
But what's so nice is I feel like they're
doing the work for me tonight.
It's just so good.
It's so good. I don't
graze kids.
And so long as we're starting
words with G, I don't groom them either.
So you
can stop talking your shit.
The Scientologists and Marvel are
running a smear campaign against Guy Montgomery.
Oh, shit.
Oh, did you have a shining light for this whole damn flick?
I liked...
I kind of liked...
It was still too long.
But I did kind of enjoy the whole thing.
Wow.
No, I can't.
I'm not going to.
I'm not going to.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
I'm applauding you.
I'm applauding the filmmakers.
All right, mate.
I did write something down.
If I go into, I actually did use, after you called me out,
I did use another notes app.
And the line I liked the best, the best one was, and it was in the middle of one of these
exhausting tete-a-tetes when they're doing really
poorly written
comic jibes at each other
about their appearance or their nature between The Rock
and Jason Statham. And at one point
when they're on the plane, before we meet
Kevin Hart, the Air Marshal,
Jason Statham says to The Rock,
why don't you be a good elephant
and suck up a kilo of peanuts?
That made me laugh out loud.
That was one of, I think,
like two true lols for me.
That was fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Because,
so the,
Stath is kind of a genius
in the franchise
and so he's set them up
with disguises
because now like the global police
are onto them because the disguises because now like the global police are onto them
because the ETN
have like
this movie's
pretty fucking wild guys
they're in charge
of the media
in this world
the ETN's
the bad guys
they control
the whole global
they're trying to spread
this virus right
and turn everyone
into cyborgs
this isn't Tim
okay
this is the fucking
I know it sounds very Tim,
but this is the movie, okay?
So they're trying to wipe everyone out
with this virus
turning them into cyborgs.
I didn't quite get that.
Did you get that?
Get what?
The connection between the virus
and the robot thing.
I think my guess would be,
and I would have to guess
because I don't get it,
that people who get the virus would get sick.
But if you choose to team up with the artificial intelligence people
who don't get sick, maybe.
There was some lines about how it could be programmed
to target certain DNA.
I don't know what that was all about.
It sounds like eugenics.
Yeah, it does.
Which would track with Eaton.
And we are against...
Anti-eugenics.
That's right.
I get confused.
On one side of the ledger, we have Jason Statham,
and on the other, we have Scientology, Eugenics, and The Rock.
Okay.
If we could just finish masturbating and take care of the other bad guys,
Jason Statham would be a great hero for us.
I can't believe you brought that back.
We're so far away from it
I just thought it was
such a clever thing to say
I even shut my eyes
to remember how it felt
when I said it
so
Your Shining Light
was the scene where
Statham has set them up
with fake identities
he's gotten them
plane tickets
and the Rock's complaining
because he doesn't
he's not in an exit row
for his massive
physical and he says won't you be a good outfit and suck up a kilo of peanuts and go to sleep or
something i thought that was tight by the way i've also got a theory i want to run past you after
you've done your shining light oh i too kind of enjoyed the whole i mean like it's sort of a cop
out but hearing the who in a fast and furious movie was fucking cool. It was great. It was good. Yeah.
Put music in these fucking movies, guys.
If I got a Fast X and it's just wall-to-wall
shitty film score compositions again,
I'm going to be disappointed.
They've got,
because we're learning
as we watch more of these movies
that they've got a refrain.
You know,
it's like the slap bass from Seinfeld.
Yeah.
It is the slap bass from Seinfeld.
They use that for changes between scenes
It's like Moscow
But the theory I wanted to run by
And Ryan Reynolds
Definitely
Ryan Reynolds was there
I'm a little embarrassed to admit it
But I'm always happy to see him turn up in a movie
I was
He'll jump the shark at some point.
He has.
But as a cameo actor, he's perfect.
Do you know he recently sold his telecom for like a billion dollars?
His telecom?
Yeah, he started a phone company called Mint Mobile.
And they were like, we're not like the big guys.
We're little and cool.
And then he sold it to, what's the fucking huge one in the States?
T-Mobile. Yeah, for a billion and a half dollars
wow yeah he's fucking loaded he was already loaded why did that why do people do this i don't know
man why is he doing any of this he owns a football club and a vodka company gin and he's got a lot
of kids so maybe that's why how much does it cost to have a kid it's not a billion
i i hate to play armchair psychologist but i'm about to but i also know that he's from a big
family i think and had a real bad relationship with his dad so i think he's using money to try
and show how much he loves his kids. Ah.
Sounds healthy.
Sounds like something the Church of Scientology would love to do
a little auditing on and help him with.
Oh, I didn't know that they
audit you. That would be sick. Oh, not
financially.
Well, actually, they
probably do if they don't like you.
They'll figure it out. Here's what I want to say.
I'm so glad you brought me off the same toll.
Idris Elba.
This movie's set in London.
Yeah.
He is a bad guy.
Yeah.
He wears a body armor suit.
Yeah.
We only ever really see him being a bad guy by day.
There's another movie that's set in London starring Idris Elba featuring him as a bad guy by night. He plays a character called Macavity. These films were
released around the same time. I believe he was not just working two jobs he was
working one job in the belief
that he was playing the same character
in the same cinematic universe the whole time.
Whoa.
So when he's not being the cyborg guy,
he's nipping back to London
to wreak havoc on the cats of London.
Wow.
It makes some sense.
And every time he goes,
Macavity.
He transports into his body armor suit
and he's talking to the rock adjacent state.
Fucking love that.
I love that.
And maybe all the tech that he gets,
it's magic.
It's cat magic.
It asks questions
about the connections
between Etienne
and cats
you know
who's running cats
who's running the ship
like who's the wizard of Oz
in cats
someone's in charge
of that balloon
right
at the end
that takes you to heaven
I went on a hot air balloon
how was it
the guy was in charge
I think it was German
it was the same guy he was in charge. I think it was German. Uh-huh.
It was the same guy.
He was lovely.
There's like four jokes that ran through my head then
and I'm going to leave all of them unsaid.
Say one.
Say the best one.
No.
I wouldn't let a German near that much gas around me.
You do you.
Now do it in a Chinese accent
no but I did
go on it
and um
you know
they don't have
a wheel
I was aware
of the fact
that a hot air
balloon didn't have a wheel yeah you thought it had a wheel what the fuck would a wheel fact that a hot air balloon didn't have a wheel
Yeah
You thought it had a wheel?
What the fuck would a wheel do on a hot air balloon bro?
Steer it
Oh a steering wheel
That's even dumber than what I thought it meant
I thought you meant like a wheel with a tyre dude
Nah man it's just a basket
Have you ever thought about a hot air balloon before?
Yeah I've been in one Yeah but before then did you ever thought about a hot air balloon before? Yeah, I've been in one.
Yeah, but before then, did you ever think about roughly how they might work?
They just go up.
Well, exactly.
Yeah.
So why would they have a steering wheel?
So that you know where you're going.
To live in your head for a day.
So it's just the wind.
Yes. Well Well and the gas
And a bunch of sandbags I believe
Do they have sandbags on your way?
Didn't see any sandbags
Big basket
Big balloon
The balloon's made from like
Puffer jacket material
Is that right?
And you just go up
It's so thin this stuff
And then you go up
And then at the end
The going down
You're not in charge of How it goes down Right Because all the other balloons Go up at the same time going down you're not in charge of how it goes down right
because all the other balloons going up at the same time you or you the guy in charge of it
isn't even in charge i wasn't in charge either no one was in charge he kind of was but all the
other balloons were going down in the park and we were like pushed off in a different region we just
like so all those ones go past and then we were getting like the horizon was getting close if you
know what i mean like we're about to be on the water that's bad and yeah yeah and the guy was like we're gonna do a beach landing
and we were like okay and we're coming down real close to the tops of buildings like real close
and then we clip the very top of a tree and we're coming down and he lands it on the beach and it's
cool as hell and there's a lot of. And there's a lot of people watching.
There's a lot of people watching.
And then we help him.
And it's very involved.
You pack down the balloon.
It's like a big sleeping bag.
And you get out of the basket.
And the guy was like, do you know, that was an emergency landing.
And I've never landed a balloon on the beach before.
Holy shit!
And we said no and then an ambulance showed up because a local person who was filming it from afar thought we'd crashed into a tree.
In some ways you had.
Nah we didn't crash into the tree we just gave it a little kiss.
You clipped it and you had a crash landing.
Here's the tree. We went like this.
All of this to say,
the cats and cats are worshipping hydrogen?
Could be.
Could be that German guy.
Yeah, right.
Well, he doesn't have a steering wheel, though,
is what I'm saying.
So no one's in charge.
It's just the gangs.
Yeah, obviously he doesn't have a steering wheel, Tim.
How stupid are you?
Idris Elba's very cool in this movie,
and he reminded me of a character from DuckTales
that Guy and I have been trying to figure out who it is.
We've got a whole audience here to try and figure this out.
Have I mentioned it, or was there in DuckTales
a character who had robotic armour
that he could command at any time
and turn into a thing?
What's his name
Gizmo Duck
Gizmo Duck
that makes sense
doesn't ring a bell
and was he on a
was he on a one wheel
as well
was that part of his jam
was he kind of
was he kind of sexy
he meant well
Miranda voiced him
in the reboot
and was that sexy
why do you want to fuck these ducks bro When Manuel Miranda voiced him in the reboot. And was that sexy?
Why do you want to fuck these ducks, bro?
Because I'm not allowed to fuck the real ones.
Makes sense.
Makes sense to me.
When you're allowed, you just can't tell anyone.
Yeah.
They've set this movie up to very strongly
to have a sequel
and it's quite noticeable
that the sequel
has not been made
to this point.
Got released.
COVID happened.
I just think
everyone's tried to move on.
I think based on...
I think Vin Diesel
fucking...
Yeah.
So this came out.
Then they did Fast 9
and that's when
the real falling out happened.
That's when Vin and The Rock were at loggerheads
you're on the wiki
how'd this do financially
do you know
very well
did it
200 mil box
no 200 mil budget
I think 700 mil box office
tidy
yeah I think that's quite a lot
yeah
700 mil
you could almost raise
one of Ryan Reynolds' kids
with that.
It's crazy.
He's like making all this money and then he keeps showing up in movies being like,
well, you know, like, I've got quips.
You've got one and a half billion dollars.
Stop doing quips, you piece of shit.
I don't...
I think it is over for him now for that exact reason.
You can't be funny and a billionaire.
No, just ask Elon Musk.
Exactly.
Even Dave Chappelle or Ricky Gervais.
They used to be so funny.
Remember when they were funny?
I do.
And then now they're just these fucking guys.
Yeah.
Bad guys.
Yeah.
So you describe Dave Chappelle as a bad guy now?
No, he's just misguided and no one can talk him down.
What about Ricky Gervais?
Ricky Gervais likes himself too much.
I reckon Ricky Gervais is probably a bad...
Actually, do you know, I've heard that he's fundamentally...
Like if you meet him one-on-one, he's a personable guy.
I'm sure he is, but everyone is.
It's very easy to be.
I know.
Have you met a politician?
Yeah.
They're nice.
I did Jacinda Ardern before she was the fucking PM.
Brag about it.
She's not even the fucking PM anymore, dude.
That's an old brag.
She was actually really nice.
She was pretty good.
It's a trick.
What is?
They're all nice. You meet trick What is? They're all nice
Oh right
You meet all these people
They're all nice
Yeah
To talk to
Because they have to be
It's their job
Sure
That's the job right
I think so
This one guy I met
Was not nice
Was it David Seymour?
Yeah it was
Really?
Yeah
What was he like?
Just a little freak
David
David Seymour
Is this guy we got in New Zealand
Who I don't know what the Australian equivalent is
Have you got a libertarian party in Australia?
They get in
The libertarian party
That's a good name for them
Makes a lot more sense than your fucking liberal party
Alright other guy from New Zealand
He's stealing Guy Williams bits now yeah you should see my show
um we got a we got a libertarian in there by accident his name's david
uh but his party's called the x party which doesn't make any sense anyway hobson shore
what are you it's so weird to see a good fast and Furious movie. It gives me some hope of what they're capable of
for the rest of the franchise.
I don't think we're going to see it for a while
on account of the fact that we have to watch
seven, seven times, six, six times.
So on and so forth.
And my understanding is they get better progressively
as we go down.
I think, do you know what it is?
And this is what I thought.
Even watching this movie,
there are so many action sequences,
so many beautifully choreographed action sequences
that you become immune to them.
They wash over you.
You don't actually engage with them
for how incredible they are
because of what this franchise has done,
we take them for granted.
Yep.
And so the magic of what we're doing
and what we'll get to
is that the movies get smaller.
Yeah.
The sequences get smaller
and therefore I think they're more tethered
to something we can appreciate
because they're actually existing
in a physical reality.
It's exhausting to watch fucking tow trucks hitching onto each other
to keep a helicopter from flying away.
All right, guys.
This was so fucking cool.
We're in Samoa and fucking Idris Elba is sort of like,
he's kind of losing almost at this point.
So he's throwing the whole
kitchen sink at the situation trying to
take down this pesky Hobson shore so he can get
the virus back and he's got command
of a military helicopter that's got missiles
on it and he's
and they've deactivated
the means of deploying
the missiles by using a computer so
he can't use the missiles he's just in a chopper
he's just got a chopper and um so he's managed to successfully get state sister he's got the virus in here
fuck he's a lot going so many balls in the air in this movie man and so they're taking off and
then rock and state they're like no he's my sister yeah and uh so they've got to stop it and so the
way that they do that is they just like throw a fucking chain around the helicopter.
And then they're in a truck
and the rock just starts like tugging on it.
At one point,
the rock's literally just holding a helicopter
with a chain.
Yeah.
It's cook.
But then, you know,
which is absurd.
And the thing is,
we don't even think to laugh at it.
It's not exciting to see.
It's like, yeah, you think this.
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so they don't let them do laugh at it. It's not exciting to see. It's like, yeah, you think this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so they don't let him do it for too long,
which is actually a relief.
And then all his Samoan family come up behind him
and everyone's got their own car.
And they just start fucking hooking onto the bumper.
Cars onto cars onto cars.
So get this.
The rocks car with Stath is being taken up into the air
like a hot air balloon out of control at the beach yeah
and to try and tether them down you know a brother comes out and over and slings a chain onto the
bumper to add some weight and then that one starts ascending as well and then there's another brother
and another car another train another brother another one and it's tremendous what a
great idea and one of the many great ideas for action sequences and what I'm saying
to you
is what I'm looking
forward to
is just like
when it's just
two cars
side by side
seeing who can
drive faster
I read
for me
there's good
there's good
you should get
into the F1 maybe
or NASCAR
or something
they've got that
yeah yeah
that's a thing
that's a whole thing
You could get into
This movie for me though
Did a nice job
Of towing the line
Of bullshit
To enough physics
That are like
Familiar to me
Yeah
And it had a good level
But I will say
You didn't take
That they're
Makeup artists
You thought that
There were inconsistencies
Oh the scarring thing
Scabs and scarring That's on continuity baby Oh yeah The makeup artists Did a thought that there were inconsistencies in the scabs and scarring.
That's on continuity, baby.
Oh, yeah?
The makeup artists did a great job.
They did what they were told.
The scarring looked convincing,
but it was just fucking gone.
We could go,
after this,
we could get on the IMDb,
find the continuity person
and send them a strongly worded email.
We should.
I think I'm going to light them up, man.
Yeah.
I'm going to light them up.
I'm going to,
I probably won't think about this again
hopefully
you've seen this movie before
I went to this movie in Edinburgh in 2019
so stoned
in 4D
they had motion master chairs
motion master chairs and like
spray and like smell
do they really have smell?
Yeah, but I don't remember.
I was too stoned.
What smell could you possibly add
to Fast and Furious presents Hobbs and Shaw?
Just like bad color axe body spray.
Gasoline.
Yeah, true actually.
Imagine they're just dousing a cinematic audience.
Mostly I think it think because the motion master
is quite janky
I think they introduced
the idea of smell
in case someone
shits themselves
you're like
ah it's just a movie
I spewed after
a motion master once
did you?
into like
it was quite funny
I was with
on holiday
with a bunch of mates
on New Years
can't remember where we were
Taupo I think
there's fucking nothing
to do there by the way if you're not into fishing don't go to topo it sucks it's not so bad it's not
so bad it's very pretty but it was raining there's nothing to do so we found a motion master went on
there and like i'd just been drinking a lot you know for a week and i got outside and just spewed
into like a public dude bin i was at the adelaide fringe and i bought a ticket to go on i
can't remember what it's called like the the kamikaze and it's like a wheel that goes around
and you know one of those ones that takes you up and you go upside down and it holds you there like
that and then you go oh yeah okay hold on i want to i want to make sure i've got this is the ones
where you can't like you sort of pin to the outside a little bit no you're so you're inside
you're like that like a spinning no no no it's like it's it goes up like it's like a it's like a
ferris wheel sort of thing and you go and so it's going whoa and then it holds you
oh so i bought a ticket right because i really wanted to go on it and there were people in it
before me it was quite late at night and i'm watching this ride that i'm waiting to go on
and i'm pretty sure i'm the only ticket holder and then at the very top you see something like solid come out of the ride and I was like oh no
someone's dropped something and then you hear someone else go oh my god and then you see it
come down and then you see more of the same solid stuff and it's actually not solid it's fluid because someone is throwing up oh boy and go on and on and on
and then you saw them get out you am i we got to watch the whole thing was me and chris parker
you watch this woman get out and she was shaking man she was shaking was that the one who bombed
or yeah yeah yeah she was she was like oh anyway it took about 15 minutes To clean it up
And I went on
Good for you brother
And it was a super janky ride
Good for you
I want to make you aware
That that's the time right now
Yeah that's the time
That's what it is
Should we stop
Talking to each other
Yeah
It's probably about that time
So
If we were going to make
One other thing
It's not always late night People who are drinking Who spew up on rides it's probably about that time. So if we were going to make a short two.
It's not always late night people who are drinking who spew up on rides.
When I was 11,
I went on something called a Gravitron.
It's like one of those ones.
It's rude to the ground.
It goes round and round.
It starts going so far.
Yeah, yeah.
And I was on it with my friend Oscar.
It was in the Christchurch A&P show
and we got on and we were like pinned up.
You can go upside down.
You're like pinned upside down or whatever. And then a bar flew off the middle and hit Oscar in the headchurch A&P show and we got on and we were like pinned up. You can go upside down, you're like pinned upside down or whatever.
And then a bar flew off the middle
and hit Oscar in the head
and he threw up on himself
and his vomit was pinned onto his body the whole time.
And he was wearing this brand new rusty shirt
that he'd just got from the surf store.
It was like so nice.
It had dragons on it.
We were gussied.
Was he all right?
Yeah, he's fine.
Because that sounds like a concussion,
like a severe concussion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's alright.
He's alright, yeah.
Shit, man.
You always see those rides.
You're like, they look pretty janky, but they have to be safe.
Well, the other thing we did at the Adelaide Fringe was Chris and I went on a haunted house ride.
And it's like this little thing and you just go around and around and around.
And it's not...
I was waiting to be really scared because you heard people screaming.
And there's like ghosts and stuff on the walls that come out and they're on like a
rope and so they come out they go with the cadence of an eight-year-old yeah and i go like that and
so that's not that scary but then they've got a guy in there there's a guy in there i got it okay
and that's what's scary because the guy just goes like this you know and their finger their thick
sweaty fingers just graze your arm
and then you just don't know
when they're going to come back.
They come back like four times.
It's just a guy.
It's just a guy.
It's very scary stuff.
I think I've told this one
before on the pod
but do you remember that story
about how I went to the Sydney Easter show
when I was 20
and developed a fear of flying
from one of the rides?
Because me and my friend Nick Fone, who was briefly
in the army and considers himself a
veteran even though he only did basic training.
Because
to quote Nick, it is
a definition of a veteran.
And we both went
on a ride that puts
you on a rollercoaster
style holster that comes down and traps you
in and then just flicks you around.
It looks like an octopus.
It's got all these arms and it fires you at the ground and then whips you up just before you're going to hit.
Sounds good.
And we were both screaming.
And I've never seen Nick so scared in his fucking life.
And this is a veteran of the army mind.
A veteran.
A veteran.
He could have served one day.
Yeah, by that definition, we are all veterans.
In a lot of ways, we are.
Yeah.
So thank you for your service.
We went on a Ferris wheel afterwards because we were so fucked up.
And then I discovered that I had developed a fear of heights from that ride,
which I didn't have prior to getting on it.
And then flying fucked me up for years after that. you would hate it on a hot air balloon you know
they don't even have a wheel i i would hate it on a hot air balloon i don't think i could handle it
you know that like we we recorded a podcast recently in a very high up um apartment building
and went on the balcony and as soon as i looked down like yeah i'm gonna throw myself off yeah for i better go inside yeah i'm gonna trap myself off this even yeah i did think that once in a balloon i was like
i could it's hard not to think i think anytime we'll have a big bridge i never do it i'm still
here you know and it's not it's not scary it's not like genuine desire it's just like it's the
knowledge you can which is a french term for it? Sexy?
Yeah.
I believe I pronounced that correctly.
The horniness of the balloon.
Hey, way to not die, brother.
Well done.
I love you, Tim.
Love you too, guy.
And thank you so much for coming to our show, everybody.
We hope you have a great day.
And thanks for listening at home and most importantly
happy Easter
don't forget what Jesus did for all of us
so don't fuck it up
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I'd love to see you there
I don't talk about
any of the stuff
we covered today
I do do a Chinese accent though
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