The Worst Idea Of All Time - Pixels: The Worst 28 Plays Later of All Time
Episode Date: April 12, 2016SPONSORED BY BIGPIPE.CO.NZThe lads are back in the saddle. But a different saddle. A Pixels saddle. They're joined by Paul Verhoeven of the 28 Plays Later podcast in a very strange hotel room in centr...al Melbourne to watch the 2015, 17% Rotten Tomatoes-awarded film PIXELS. In this podcast mash up (ft a very disturbing mash up intro) Guy, Tim and Paul delve back into the Sandlerverse replete with a Lamensoff, the usual sexism we've come to except AND a beautiful shitworld built on top of beloved franchises. Enjoy the terrible audio quality, a burned out Montgomery and three men united by hate. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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🎵 It's the worst idea of all time to be back in the saddle in some ways. It's been a while since we've watched a terrible film.
Paul, thank you so much for putting this together.
Yeah, it's kind of
a centaur of podcasts.
I don't know which half
is the horse half
and which is the human half,
but I know at this point
none of us are feeling
particularly well.
You guys obviously host
The Worst Idea of All Time,
and I am one half
of 28 Plays Later,
and seeing as how we're a video game podcast
And you're a bad movie podcast
It seemed logical
For us to get this shit out of the way
I mean
Like it was inevitable
Oh yeah
Let's start right at the beginning gents
A little context
We're here in beautiful Melbourne, Australia
At the Melbourne International Comedy Festival Right in the thick of itents. A little context. We're here in beautiful Melbourne, Australia at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival.
Right in the thick of it.
We're in a quest apartment
on the corner of Burke and Russell Street,
room 106.
I need help.
Don't give them the address.
It's not too late.
No, look, they can't travel back through time
and save us from this audio-visual holocaust. They'll turn this room into a museum after the people hear this. Right, right, they can't travel back through time and save us from this audio-visual holocaust.
They'll turn this room into a museum after the people hear this.
Right, right, right.
Well, yeah.
We, specifically the three of us, have booked and paid for a hotel room
so we could all get together and watch Pixels.
I made it through the movie, but it was a fucking fever dream.
My eye, this is the heaviest my eyelids have ever felt.
Guy has done back to, like, performed in back to back comedy shows this evening
and then had to hightail it over to this hotel room.
Look, we're not criticising you,
but there was a point where you were curled up on yourself
and it was fucking horrifying.
Honestly, because, okay, so first of all, the volume on this,
we rented a hotel room to watch an Adam Sandler film,
and my girlfriend was legitimately convinced that we were going to fuck.
Like, she thought that was the end game of the year,
was for us to get a hotel room.
Hey, the night is young, Paul.
Look, anything could happen.
But, I mean, at this point, the volume on the TV was very bad.
So two hours into this, wait, how long was the film?
An hour and 41.
35 minutes.
Okay, well, it felt longer.
The volume wasn't great.
So I ran around and I wedged two salad bowls
under the television to try and increase the acoustics.
We should get a photo of that, actually.
It's pretty bad.
Artful.
Yeah, it's MacGyver grade.
Nothing I could do took the venom out of this garbage scowl of a movie.
Yeah, it's hard to know where to enter with this, but let me enter here.
I think this movie is worse than Grown Ups 2,
and I'm a pretty qualified person to be able to make that judgment call.
This is truly, you said the word dumpster fire.
I can't think of a better term to phrase.
It's just a fucking absolute train wreck from what...
Kevin James is the fucking president of the United States this movie for no reason in particular.
Yeah, let's walk on that.
We could talk about this for like an hour.
So, presumably, in this reality, he is...
We had this discussion.
Do you think he's first term or second term president?
First term, I feel. Right. I don't know what that's based on, but I get the sense he is, we had this discussion, do you think he's first term or second term president? First term, I feel.
Right.
I don't know what that's based on, but I get the sense he is.
You reckon trailing towards the end?
Because his approval ratings aren't good.
He's, you know, people are making fun of him.
He can't.
There was that scene at the start, which you pointed out,
was basically a parody of George Bush having trouble reading
during the 9-11 bit.
It was a weird, so they were obviously, like,
trouble reading during the 9-11 bit it was a weird so they were obviously like um uh referencing that scene when george w bush is reading my pet goat in front of a bunch of um like kindergartners
i think it is yeah when he gets told that the first oh the second plane has hit the the south
tower i think yes and so they kind of play out the scene that's like that where he's reading to
these girl scouts which is weird that and they're all in a classroom yeah and uh and they're like riffing on that and i'm like oh
it's a pretty bold way to open the movie making like sort of a reference to 9-11 and a family
orientated adam sandler comedy yeah and the movie makes less sense as it goes on yeah like that's a
pretty high nonsensical bar.
And you can tell that everyone involved in making it
was aware that it didn't make any sense
because they kept trying to explain it,
but it's like,
when they're trying to explain through something
and they're just muddying the waters further
and they're like,
okay, but we just need to get to the next page of script.
So they just keep going.
Like, everything's going fine,
but it's not going fine
there's some weird
scenes
of
exposition
that last
so long
of everyone just
explaining why
we are where we are
right now
why the fuck were they
in Britain for a bit
oh right
okay so Sean Bean
is running this
kind of boot camp
and he tells the
basically football hooligans
that they're shooting
a beer commercial
and then at one
point he and
Brian Cox are
hugging
who was Brian
Cox
Brian Cox is a
physicist
yeah but it was
it was implied at
one point that he
was like
but there wasn't
Brian Cox
like I
maybe I'm thinking
of a different
dude there's a
I'm pretty sure
there's a physicist
called Brian Cox
that's not him
no but there is
a there that is a
Brian that is a
Brian Cox
right but he's an
actor the one who's
in this yeah but it's Brian Cox there are two models a Brian Cox. Right, but he's an actor, the one who's in this.
No, it's Brian Cox A.
There are two models of Brian Cox.
Oh, I see.
It was Brian Cox A.
Brian Cox B wasn't on camera.
No, Brian Cox A spearheaded the Treadstone Initiative
that created Jason Bourne,
whereas Brian Cox B is, of course, the science celebrity.
This Brian Cox was...
Fuck, this movie was a train wreck.
There were, like, so many bizarre conceits in it.
And I think the one thing we agreed on was that Josh Gad was pretty on the money.
Yeah, which I did not expect.
No.
He delivered comedically.
He had, like, probably four bits where I genuinely laughed at him doing...
You looked sceptical as fuck
look he was
fine
it's just
I don't know at some point
you've got to ask why they're making them
but you've also got to ask why are we watching them
especially in our particular circumstance
this is a real weird way to engage
with a movie that you definitely
were supposed to see at the cinema this is the opposite of the cinema i'd like you to be knowing that we uh
bought we you bought this on dvd yeah so i went to jb hi-fi and i bought a copy of how much was
it pixels for 20 bucks and we'll look we'll pay you back well all the expenses will be split let
me tell you that right now that's okay but i say this much. I had to apologize to the teller
because he gave me a look as if I'd just been sick in his mouth.
We should sign this and sell it
and try and recoup all the hotel costs.
Look, if people are willing to absorb some of the damage we took for this,
are you reading the blurb?
Can you read the blurb for us, please?
Yeah, and point your mouth into there.
I'm actually reading the special features.
Oh, we haven't watched them
Qbert
Dojo Quest
Game on music video by
Waka Flocka Flame featuring Good Charlotte
you know that Waka Flocka Flame
Good Charlotte mashup you've been
busting for
so as described
by whoever writes
this garbage
when aliens
misinterpret video
feeds of classic
arcade games as a
declaration of war
against them they
attack the earth
using games like
Pac-Man
Donkey Kong
Galaga
Centipede
and Space Invaders
as models for
their various
assaults
President Will
Cooper Kevin
James has to call
on his childhood best friend, 80s video game champion Sam Brenner, Adam Sandler, to lead a
team of old school arcaders, Peter Dinklage and Josh Gad, to defeat the aliens and save the planet.
That is not a feature film. That is a short story by a fucking nine-year-old with learning disabilities. That's a pitch for a movie that gets summarily rejected,
not put into production.
Can we just quickly...
Something just occurred to me.
Yeah.
Fucking Dan Aykroyd's vodka.
Oh.
Can we please talk about this?
Okay, so Dan Aykroyd appears in the movie ever so briefly.
And Paul actually...
I said, man man I miss old
clearly Ghostbusters era Dan Aykroyd
and you know even like Coneheads
that are stretching and stuff like that
I mean Saturday Night Live, he was legendary
The Blues Brothers
Yeah there we go, that's what I'm talking about
He had some good late shit
He pops up in this movie
and I'm like oh man I miss old
Dan Aykroyd and then paul
you made a reference to the vote you were like yeah he's trying to hawk that skull vodka and we
both got caught up because both kind of had jobs in the media peripherally and that junket he did
a couple years ago it's really aggressive he would like talk to people and then five minutes and go
all right let's talk about the vodka yeah very aggressive and assertive and then and then like
20 minutes after he first pops up,
apropos of fucking nothing,
except for a contractual obligation.
Yeah, so they've just downed the aliens for the first time,
and they suddenly cut to a pub.
And what are they drinking?
They're drinking a beer initially,
and then Adam Sandler thinks there's, you know,
we need something a little harder than beer,
and they bust out one of the Dan Aykroyd vodka skulls.
It's sickening. It's fucked. It's's fun it's fucking it's mental so much sense like sandler and fucking all-power to dan akroyd for standing up adam sandler sandler was like hey dan i'm doing a movie do you want to
be in it and he's just so used to people saying yes because people hate themselves and dan akroyd
was like yeah i'll do it and sandler was like great but before he could hang And Dan Aykroyd was like, yeah, I'll do it.
And Sandler was like, great.
But before he could hang up the phone,
Aykroyd said, yeah, I'll do it.
As long as you put my fucking skull block here.
Your garbage power movie.
And Sandler said, what difference does it make?
I feel like, oh God,
every Adam Sandler movie feels like a timeshare.
It's like a garbage timeshare of some sort of horrible, horrible...
Everyone's throwing their keys in the bowl.
No one gives a shit.
This is different.
Pixels is different.
How?
No, it's uniquely troubling because what they've done is they haven't just created a universe themselves
and shown you great disrespect by existing in it for two hours because it's a horrible sand laverse.
Sure.
This one takes all these existing franchises and cultural touchstones from your childhood that, you know, are fond memories for a lot of people, myself included.
Banking on the nostalgia.
And then just diarrhea shits all over your childhood.
It's like really fucked up how many franchises they dragged through the mud
to make this thing happen.
Look, I honestly just can't get out of my head
the implied sex between Josh Gad and Q-Bit.
Because let's talk about the fact that
at the end of every battle in this movie,
humans, I don't give a shit,
but they win a trophy.
And the trophy, what was the first trophy?
It was the duck hunt dog
which was never really addressed again.
Ah.
It rocked up in an old lady's flat.
I mean we know they fucked.
And then in the second instance
it was Q-Bit.
And then eventually
Q-Bit metamorphosized
into this blonde woman
that Josh Gad was heartbroken about.
Because women are objects.
Yeah.
And you can
and through hard work
and persistence
you can wear them down
it's the erosion
technique of flirting
which many people
default to
and then at the end
sorry I don't want to
spoil this bag of shit movie
at the end
the epilogue
cuts to Josh Gad
and Qubit's children
yeah it's weird
because so
so Qubit
so Josh Gad
for his entire life
has been obsessed
with this video game character which paul
and i can't figure out if it's an existing franchise or not yeah but either way she's um
this uh double blade wielding uh sort of amazonian statuesque blonde woman in a red dress
and she appears on the scene in josh gad instead of destroying this one because she's not a villain
he's in love with this game character so he um offers himself
to her and she puts down her swords and they get together and then when they defeat the aliens all
of the sprites explode simultaneously so she she like um atomizes and fucks off but then for some
reason yeah cubit still exists because he's a trophy. Yeah. And then he turns into the blonde sword wielding lady.
And then Josh Gad pashes her.
Yeah.
And even Sam like at the time is like,
is anyone else weirded out by the fact that Josh Gad's making out with Cupid?
That's true.
But there was a point where,
um,
Dinklage,
who is a whole other kettle of bad acting,
turns to Josh Gad and says,
are you going to introduce me to your girlfriend?
And he says
fiance
and then he leers
at the girl
and what does she say
nothing
because she's
fucking mute
in fact
yeah she doesn't
have a line
yeah that's troubling
she has no lines
she can't say
I don't think
she can make noise
so she's literally
a trophy
yeah
she has not
a single line
in the film
it's really
a lot of troubling
things going on
in this film
yeah
a lot of things a lot of troubling things going on in this film. Yeah. A lot of things.
A lot of things to unpack.
I, look, I just want to say I liked it just to fucking agitate both of you.
I don't know.
What do you expect?
I don't think people liked it when it came out, did they?
Okay, so I just saw Batman versus Superman.
And everyone was, you know, this is the worst movie ever made,
this has destroyed the comics, da-da-da.
It's fine.
Like, it's not the greatest movie ever made.
Definitely, I will give you that for sure.
And, you know, a lot that you can pick apart.
But it's an enjoyable film.
I enjoyed watching it.
I enjoyed the experience of watching the film
in that it gave me a lot to talk about,
and there were some really cool scenes in it.
Like, I kind of came away going,
that whole experience was roughly approximate to a movie,
whereas this was not.
The leads were good and stuff.
Pexels is fucking weirdly bad.
Like, strangely bad.
It's worse than Grown Ups 2.
It's a high watermark.
Genuinely, it is like
the most cynical of movie making
sort of procedures it's just
Adam Sandler in a room
at Happy Madison
probably up to his eyeballs in
weed and attention
and financial
backing and he's like
hey look we need an idea for a movie
and we I don't like
i don't know they just pretty much they would just be like let's buy up the rights to all of
these video games yeah there we go we made a movie i can go home now it's 9 30 finally i can see my
wife and kids and he walks out of the office and leaves the script writing process to two poor
fucking bastards or like he wants us to do what?
And they did it, and they just did it once,
and no one double-checked it,
and they submitted the script, and it got greenlit.
And then they're on set, and they're all just like,
well, look, we could improvise better versions of these scenes,
but we just don't have the time.
You know, my dad was a cop for many years,
and he spent a lot of time... We all know that.
Look, he...
We all know this about Paul.
We're familiar.
It's in the origin story, in Paul Verhoeven Origins.
And there's this point...
Lieutenant Verhoeven.
My dad talks to me often about
how easy it is to get into high-security places.
The trick is to act like you belong there.
Yeah.
Adam Sandler's movies are like just...
Imagine Kevin James holding a box of pizzas,
going, pizzas, I got pizzas,
and then he just kind of somehow fucking fumbles his way
into the epicentre of the Pentagon, right?
Yeah.
But that's, Adam Sandler movies,
they deftly sidestep every obstacle
and they become these frictionless turds
that just sort of sluice through.
You want to know...
A frictionless turd actually sounds like a pretty sound bell movement.
What are they?
We all hear long for frictionless turds. sounds like a pretty sound bowel movement. What it is? We all wear long frictionless turds.
What it is?
Yeah.
Is Adam Sandler's made a wooden horse.
He's hidden himself and his mates inside this horse.
It's a wooden Mini Cooper and there's four of them.
Fuck, it is a Trojan, isn't it?
So look, what I'd like to do is, we've sort of already done this in bits and pieces,
but ever so briefly try and explain...
The plot.
The rough beats and the plot, so...
Well, sure, I mean, it's hard to overlook the fact that
the film starts with Dan Aykroyd announcing a video game contest
and then Kevin James is president,
which is sort of the exhilarating gear change
that Tim and Guy really struggled with because you know
I feel like you guys were a bit more tired than I was
very jerky like there was no
the film starts with the
trailer for Paul Blart
Mall Cop 2
and it's soon followed by the trailer for
Grown Ups 2 and I
with my eyeballs half
open was like
what fucking torture chamber have I literally just walked across town to come into?
What fuckery is this?
You guys ever seen Hellraiser?
You know that box?
There's this fucking puzzle box that if you open up, hell spews out.
I just feel like that's Happy Madison in movie form.
And I feel like at the end, there was an...
Okay, so you get to the end and it says Game Over.
I was waiting for a question mark.
Yeah, same.
Game Over?
I was waiting for it to say, when it says pixels,
I was waiting for it to say one.
Just to fuck with it.
Anyway, so look.
The movie opens and...
That's how all Adam Sandler movies should finish.
With the movie title and the number one next to it.
Even Grown Ups 2?
Grown Ups 2 and 1. So good. movie title and they're number one next to it even grown ups two grown ups two
one
so good
so it opens up
with this scene
of them all as
kids which is
exactly what they
did with grown
ups I think in
the first movie
as well
and it's like
it's a cute
little bit and
you know it's
fine and the
child actors
they've got
not good but
they're doing a
fine job of
saying the lines
into a camera
yeah it's unsubtle though
there was one point
where Adam Sandler
discovers in one day
that he's really good
at video games
and I'm pretty sure
the young Kevin James
says boy one day
this is really going
to come in handy
yeah it's very
you know
but that's
that is what it is
it's efficient storytelling
that's fine
again frictionless
and so you have that
for a say
five or six minutes
and they go to
a world tournament
where Adam Sandler as a kid loses where Adam Sandler, as a kid,
loses to Peter Dinklage, as a kid, in the showdown, which is Donkey Kong.
And then we very jarringly flash forward to a dystopian future
where Kevin James has been installed leader of the free world.
Yeah, but you don't find that out straight away.
First you cut to a bar with Kevin James and Adam Sandler
talking about women they want to fuck yeah and then they walk outside and
suddenly the press is there right yeah no it cuts to kevin james and adam sandler talking about
kevin james's wife and how it's like she just doesn't understand i don't want to hang out with
her i'm a dude i just want to drink beer with the boys.
With the boys.
Woman or objects.
We need to make this super explicit throughout the entire movie.
They said that.
It's a quote.
I know.
We go to that and then we go to,
Adam Sandler is effectively a cable guy.
He's installing flat screen TVs and consoles and stuff in people's houses.
So he meets this woman who's recently separated from her husband.
There's a kid there.
She is an alcoholic
and there's no glossing past that.
Yeah, she's locked in the closet
coping with her marital grief.
I think she's three sheets to the wind at this point
and her child,
her child is in the adjacent room
with a stranger. That's sort of where we're
at that's true a stranger clad in orange who then wanders into the closet and proceeds to start
drinking with her yeah and he's not wouldn't and is that is that floating does he float yeah yeah
it is it's totally unprofessional there's a lot of fat and he goes in for a cheeky pash and is denied. Yeah, he's comforting Michelle Monaghan
as she cries about her husband leaving her for a 19-year-old.
So many problems across the board.
And then Adam Sandler's like,
okay, well now that you feel slightly better
about your husband leaving you for a 19-year-old,
it's time for you to pash the guy who came over
to install a video game console
on the back of your TV and she is
like no
absolutely not but then they just make sure
they throw on one shot of her being partially
charmed so that you know eventually
they'll make out they telegraph
it I don't want to judge
people have charms
beyond the physical but when a man
with a face like a leathery orb
approaches your face
leathery orb
at a 90 degree angle
minutes after you've told him that you're
emotionally bereft
you're not gonna
you're not gonna go for it
you're not gonna give it up for him
no
speak for yourself Paul
look we all have preferences that's fine
anyway a few phone calls come through.
Adam Cena leaves to go to the White House.
And what do you know?
The woman has to leave to go to the White House too.
But not before displaying a proficient lack of ability
to know where to put his fucking hand.
There's a point where he's sitting like a...
You know in the old days where a woman wouldn't want to be indelicate
so she'd sit herself side saddle on the sweetest mare?
He's sitting there with his legs splayed off to the side
like a sweet little girl.
We're in the closet, by the way, at the moment, folks.
We're back in the closet, yeah.
And he's got his hand on his knee
with such a lack of self-awareness.
Now, I can't tell if he's being...
Because at that point, he didn't know what to do with his hands.
Maybe that was part of the performance.
Or maybe Adam Sandler is just incredibly physically awkward.
What do you think it is?
I think it's the latter.
I think it was just like...
It's the latter combined with a one-take mentality.
Yeah, it was definitely the one-take.
Adam Sandler would have done a take
and his hand would have been sitting on his leg
and whoever directed it, Chris Columbus, by the way,
would have been like,
hey, Adam, that was a good take,
but your hand was kind of awkwardly resting on your leg.
Do you want to do it again?
And he said, no.
And then Chris Columbus said, okay, we're all getting paid millions of dollars anyway.
And then the entire cast and crew would break it in hysterics
and pull the fingers down the back of the camera and upload it as bonus footage on YouTube.
So then we're at the White House.
The lady turns out to work for DARPA, the Department of Advanced...
Pragmatism?
Problematic.
Official movies.
But they dress her up like a sailor for the entire film.
Right.
Which is not right.
No, because...
She's a scientist.
If you work at DARPA, you're a scientist.
Are you talking about Michelle
yeah
and then the aliens
just start attacking shit
yeah but not before
we find out that Michelle
has a fucking
robot
co-worker
that was
terrifying
that was like
the level of
um
what I would describe
as techno gore
which is
is kind of like
um
you know in Robocop
yeah
uh
especially the reboot the recent one where they're like strapped to gurneys humans in a state techno gore, which is kind of like, you know, in Robocop. Yeah.
Especially the reboot.
Oh, where they're like strapped to gurneys,
humans in a state of distress
with machinery being fused
to them and shit?
Well, more,
there's a specific scene.
I know not a lot of people
saw this movie,
but I actually kind of like
the Robocop reboot
because apparently
I don't have great taste
in movies.
Right.
Edit, whatever.
But there's a scene
where Murphy is like just a head
and he doesn't realise because it's an ECU.
It's an extreme close-up just on his facial features
and it zooms out and he's just this head being kept alive
and he starts screaming.
And it's like a great horrifying moment.
And yeah, it was like on par with that.
There's a guy who walks through the DARPA office
whose back of his skull is this elongated it looks like those aerodynamic helmets that you give cyclists when
they're at the like world champs but it's perspex see-through and it's all microchips and shit but
that's his brain yeah it's fucking so creepy yeah the back of your head shouldn't look like a tear
your skull has whipped yeah. You know? Yeah.
And it's...
Was that referenced again or was that just like...
He comes back for no reason.
But it's just like, they just float that out.
They're like, this is what happens in the universe of the movie.
Yeah.
And he's the only cyborg too.
Yeah, but having said that,
Josh Gad, who is depicted as some sort of Asperger's ridden sexual omnivore,
flirts with everyone in the fucking film.
And at one point is seen just touching the man's head and walking behind him
saying something about how beautiful he is.
He refers to a tall African-American soldier as a perfect Nubian boy
and then keeps repeating it.
And again, this is part of the reason why Josh Gad was fucking super liable in this film
because he flirts aggressively with every soldier
and then cries a bit and then has to get
escorted off he was playing the role
of Nick Swanson yeah he was
presumably unavailable
because he was in it as a cameo
yeah but not was he in the back of the
ambulance no Nick Swanson was um
which one was it he was the yeah yeah sorry he was
he was the one in the back of the everyone's
in the wrong fucking role
in this movie
like
just in addition
to all the problems
because who did we
go through before
that like
the chess game
of where everyone
should be sitting
right
I personally
think that
if we assume
that Adam Sandler
is the centre
of this universe
so his character
and casting
doesn't change
Alec Baldwin
is the natural choice
for the president which Kevin James is in well because jenna is kevin james's wife and she has
about six lines that's what it was for me that did that that's a perfectly reasonable assumption
because you know kevin james looks like a muscular thumb with a face drawn on him at the best of
times yeah and i kept wanting to see his dingus like yeah you were baying for dick blood
in this movie you were like you said a couple times out loud i just want to see kevin james's
dick well it's not until now that i realize how much kevin james looks like stretch armstrong
you know stretch armstrong as a kid yeah it's like a rubbery muscle man with a wire frame and
you cannot break him and he's stocky and look reliable staunch sturdy peasant calves just rock solid rubber boy and kevin james
looks like every suit is like sewed around him you know there's like metal bands up around trees
to stop possums from climbing up them yeah i've i follow the analogy you've done a grand job of
painting a visual picture thank you what about any of this me makes you be like well you know
what i want to i want to take that soda on straight the fuck off and check out his ding dong.
Well, the thing is, look, he doesn't look fat.
He looks chunky.
He looks like a can of soup with a head on it, right?
So I want to know if his dick is the same proportions.
I want to know if his dick is just like this perfect, smooth, just rubbery.
I reckon it's big and it's messy
really? yeah I reckon he's got a big
messy dick down there
I don't think there's anything perfect about it
it's got a rugged handsomeness to it
look I don't want it to
it doesn't have to have a 5 o'clock shadow and be looking
leftwards so it looks like it's on the side of a coin
I just need it to have a fucking
masculine
fucking I definitely think it's on the side of a coin. I just need it to have a fucking masculine fucking.
I just need.
I definitely think it's a manly dick.
Look, it's definitely got, it's got angles, right?
You're using the word need.
I need.
I don't need to have it in on or near me.
I need to know what it looks like so I can go, you know, when you have a song stuck in your head and you can't fucking remember how it ends.
So it's stuck in your head for days.
You got a dick worm for Kevin James
that's what you got Paul
serious case of the dick worm
the problem is when we're talking about Kevin James' dick so much
we haven't progressed past like the first
80th of the film so where were we up to
no I feel like I described all of it
the aliens come and then they attack him and
fucking nothing else really goes down
that's it that is genuinely it
there's a false ending that comes at about an hour
into the movie
and we're all looking around going,
please.
What the fuck?
Like, is it a really long credit sequence?
And then the aliens just attack again
and they do the same thing
they did before pretty much.
Right.
A different set of sprites.
But there's never,
like the motivation for anything
is never,
nothing makes sense.
And that can be fun and fine in a movie but they play it
like it's all kind of adding up and that's a big part of the problem is it's like you haven't earned
the right to do any of this you just want wow they do they use all the film work techniques
that are associated with the raising of the stakes but they haven't you just don't give
it you can't care you try to care i tried to care i think we all came into this like reasonably
fair-minded this is a film i wanted to see in the movies because i saw the trailer and the visual
effects are actually fucking dope like there's a lot of visual stuff in it that i think looks cool
yeah and in the trailer you saw the creator of Pac-Man have this beautiful
dumb speech talking to Pac-Man
calling the beautiful boy and getting his hand bit off.
That was great. This scene worked.
It was really good, but the problem is, like you
said, it's all conclusions.
This is all cum shots.
It's just cum shot after cum shot with zero
build up. It's like someone running up to you and
just jacking it in your face and running away giggling
gleefully, which seems to so much like Adam Sandler's later career.
Whereas what you need is you need to, like,
you need to fucking have a drink and play some music
and work your way up to it and earn that moment,
as opposed to just having, like, the climax of...
It's just climax after climax.
And because it's so hollow,
and because it's Adam Sandler and Josh Gad and Peter Dinklage
in a wig that made me want to vomit, I just felt angry half the time.
You don't always got to fuck your heart.
In fact, sometimes that's not right to do.
Speaking of...
Sometimes you got to make some love and fucking give us some smooth cheese.
Problem is, there was a bit where Jack Black, sorry, Josh Gad, was trying to evoke Jack Black and he was singing a Tears for Fears song while the president watched.
The president, Kevin James, watched this happen.
You can't take issue with that.
I can't take issue with Kevin James being the president?
Okay, so there's kind of like...
Who uses his power to help Dinklage
potentially fuck Serena Williams?
Dude, all movies have a bell curve.
You can't be outraged at the whole thing.
You've got to...
You've got to like... You mean I can't be outraged at the whole thing you've gotta you've gotta
like
you can't just
be constantly
outraged at the
film
there's some
stuff you just
gotta be like
okay this is
where we are
this is what
we're doing
this is the
universe we're
in
resignation is
what that's
called
yeah
it's kinda
just
acknowledging
where was
your resignation
look man
I had plenty
of resignation
there were so
many down
points there were points where I was like of resignation. There were so many down points.
There were points where I was like,
I feel like we were just lobbing friendly heckles in.
We weren't shitting on the film the whole time,
but every once in a while,
we just became exasperated with...
I'm charmed by the way Adam Sandler goes,
I wish the world was so...
He just wants a world where he's a hero, right?
Yeah.
Like in every movie.
Because in this whole universe, he is a savant.
He doesn't work hard or practice to get good at this stuff.
He's not a Hermione Granger.
He's a Harry Potter.
He's naturally talented.
He just wanders in.
He's the fucking chosen one.
He's an effortless, you know, Rube.
But that's an admirable, commendable, or at least understandable way of wanting to see the world.
I just want a world in which I am naturally talented and people appreciate me for my fucking efforts.
And if they don't do it back when I initially get those efforts, they appreciate it later on in life.
And they throw me a fucking party and I get a cool motocross style pantsuit.
Well, it's, yeah.
Okay.
I'm just saying.
Okay.
I'm just saying... I was coming at it from a, like, Revenge of the Nerds angle,
but you were saying this is, like,
someone's God-given talent should be appreciated.
I honestly think maybe Adam Sandler enjoyed playing video games as a kid.
Yeah.
And then someone went,
we've got this idea for a film about video games,
and he's like, I enjoyed those as a kid.
Can I wear basketball shorts on set?
But he's obviously a filthy casual as well. Like don't even you know everything's so broad and yeah there
is a point where the kid who i don't think is ever named i could be wrong clearly he is we weren't
paying attention the kid who is just like begging adam sandler to be his new dad mighty ducks style
yeah it's very mightyucks in many ways.
They even do a flying V up the street after Pac-Man.
So I think there was one point where they're watching footage of The Last of Us,
which is a really great survival horror game.
And Adam Sandler is just hanging shit on this kid for liking a game,
which has that whole thing about Adam Sandler being able to see patterns
and not being able to understand like the chaos of the game.
And then finally-
Rain Man style.
Embracing it at the end was just...
Which they just kind of keep throwing in the odd line
to restoke that increasingly dying fire of like,
oh yeah, that's right, there's some reason why he can play video games real good.
Oh yeah, fuck, that's right, they mention that.
How is a college dropout who wears orange shorts for a living
the product of an ordered mind?
Not necessarily ordered.
They really are alluding to autism
and they deal with
everything in this
movie so unskillfully
like women
the franchises
they've been
gifted
well they've
purchased
but just everything
is so shat on
it's so
it's real disheartening
this movie
are you sad that we
didn't record this
in the jacuzzi
that somehow
inexplicably came
with this hotel room
we paid actual Australian dollars for to watch pixels in i it would change the tone i think
a lot if we recorded this in the in the hot tub yeah i mean i feel like i'd fall asleep in a hot
tub because the the the heat the steam would be coming off the water yeah i'm pretty sure our
knees at least would be touching if not a little bit of that sweet kevin james look at it i'm pretty sure her knees at least would be touching if not a little bit of that
sweet kevin james look i just think look at it i'm really glad to do this in a sense because
it's fun to watch movies and talk about them but on the other hand i'm just like
fuck there was you know that's not that's not coming back no it's empty that time's gone
it's so late
it's 1.30 on a Tuesday night
like
I'm sitting in a hotel room in Melbourne
with two other guys
talking about pixels
I'm like
yeah good on us
but what
like who's in the
who's in the wrong here?
I'm just kidding.
Because we're as bad as they are.
We did ask for it.
We did.
It's not like we woke up in a room chained to a radiator
with this in the middle of the room.
Like, we rented the hotel room.
We planned.
Like, that doesn't hold up in court.
It's like...
We put fucking salad bowls under the TV apps
to try and make this bullshit louder.
You're right.
This isn't even manslaughter.
This is like straight first-degree murder on our own sanity.
It's like we traveled back in time and kicked ourselves in our own nuts.
Fuck.
The problem is...
Oh, we've done it again, guys.
We're fucked up.
The thing is, you don't have to watch this again.
Nah.
See, the thing is, with Sex and the City 2, and Grown Ups 2,
I've seen both of those.
I watched the entire Sex and the City show
five times front to back
because of a girl I was going out with.
It was like a show we watched.
Eventually, there was so little left in the relationship
that the show was all we had.
And the show is verdant.
Jesus, Paul.
There was so much.
It was empty, much like this film,
but there was so much in that show
and there was so much in those movies,
even in their shit, right?
Like, there's just such a density of crap
whereas in this
it's like biting
into a hollow apple
there's nothing there
you watch this
on the second time around
you'd be at like
episode 45
grade depressed
yeah I think
I think you're right
what
you're sort of
flattering Sex and the City 2
there
yeah you are
a little bit
but at least
um
hmm
tricky
how do we uh
this movie is better than Sex and the City 2
because it is almost a full hour shorter.
Nah.
Sex and the City 2 is better than this.
Can I talk about my story for Sex and the City 2, right?
So, I know this is off topic,
but I was very excited about Tron Legacy.
Because I'm a big fan of that aesthetic in the Daft Punk Center.
It was fucking great.
And Jack Bridges is perfect in everything.
And a friend of mine, Luke, was really excited about Tron Legacy.
And so I told him we had tickets to the premiere because we were reviewing films at that point.
So I spent a whole night kind of buttering up.
We went for dinner.
We went for drinks.
We go to the Campbell, this beautiful posh suburb.
And we go around the corner towards the cinema, this beautiful like Art Deco, turn of the century cinema i i'm aware art deco is in the 40s shut up so we get to the cinema
we're around the corner and suddenly there's like news crews everywhere and there's like a thousand
women i've taken him to the premiere of sex entity 2 but here's the rub i had a camera crew ready to
film his reactions and follow us through the foyer as we were handed cosmopolitans in plastic glasses and perfume swabs and we had to go down the red
carpet dastardly bastardly man it was such my problem was i hadn't seen the first film so it's
in a series and the series ends on a really kind of cool note and then the first film has a lot of
apparently important stuff and suddenly i reach there and everybody is just like a decaying leather mummy of a husk of their former selves and he was confused and i was
angry and we were live tweeting the whole thing we were drunk on cosmopolitans which again was a
bit hurt everyone was a bit damaged and so we just kind of hatefully live tweeted the entire experience
so my experience of sex in the city 2 is very like event based and i'm concerned that
our experience of pixels is going to be equally event based and that we have a receipt for a hotel
room we we've hired yeah there's no denying it's an event based screening yeah there's something
nice about that like um i want to just as a comparison briefly bring up uh paul blart
mall cop 2 sure which is a film that we watched with the mackler
brothers for our award-winning undoubtedly in the future in the next 50 years award-winning
podcast talk death to us blart and that movie because we i remember we all got on skype to
do the record for that and uh i think it was Travis who opened it up
he was like
I didn't hate it
and Griffin
was so mad
and I was like
hey
I didn't hate it either
and I fucking didn't
I didn't hate it
I hate
pixels
I hate it
I didn't hate
Paul Blart
why do you hate it
be succinct
it destroys good things Why do you hate it? Be succinct.
It destroys good things that already exist
and in addition
even if it didn't have those franchises
it just doesn't make a lick of sense.
It's tough to argue with.
It's garbage. I mean It's um It's garbage
I mean if you're listening to this and
Still
We know you are
Uh then
I'd steer clear
I mean sometimes the morbid curiosity
Because here's the thing
You guys begged us to listen to Paul Bartu
To watch Paul Bartu rather
Before we listened to the podcast
Of Till Death Do Us Blight
I did not
Almost spitefully
I can't remember what was said.
You begged us not to proceed until we watched the film.
Right, okay.
I adore listening to commentary for films I've never seen.
I find it exhilarating.
Having to infer a narrative around a film I was never going to watch anyway is great.
So, don't watch Pixels.
Nah, I reckon do watch it.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, I hate it, but definitely watch it.
Because, like, everything good is in the trailer.
What do you think, Guy?
Look, it's your body, your choice.
I wouldn't, and I regret doing it.
Deeply.
But don't let that color your opinion.
You might be someone who loves Pixels, and if that's who you are...
Fuck you.
No. That's all power to you all right like we fundamentally disagree on a bunch of stuff i'm sure you're
probably in the middle of like doing some weird macaroni fan art for donald trump and all power
to you it's your right to do that everyone gets to make their own decisions this is what i love about planet earth
it'd take a lot of macaroni i think we've got to get you to bed baby boy no you're making way
less sense i'm just starting i'm just the engine's just starting up oh yeah that's the
i thought we were wrapping up but i've got to say yeah they fucking open and close the movie
with a really cool Cheap Trick song,
and it fucked me off too, because I really love that song.
Yeah, the soundtrack is largely, it's the kind of soundtrack, as a child,
I may have bought on cassette at Brash's.
You know what I mean?
I don't know what that means.
Oh, Brash's is like a long defunct Australian CD store.
Yeah, it's like HMV Records.
Yeah, we're still good
okay good
we just
there was a
the computer
came up with a message
I don't know what it meant
hey let's part the kimono
quickly and address
the sleeping situation
cause we've accidentally
rented a suite
this is the service
department boys
and there's a king single
in there that's got
my name on it
and then there's a
there's a bit of a
double bed
there's no need for us
to be bashful.
It won't even be the first time this week Guy and I have shared a bed.
It's true.
We are disturbingly comfortable with that at this point in our relationship.
I'm totally cool with it.
To be honest though, I'm probably going to get an Uber
and sleep in the bed that I'm...
The other room that I'm paying for not the hotel room
that's fine that's fine i fall stop that's fucking fine i don't want to hurt your feelings or
anything dude i'm gonna sleep better i'm gonna take up that double bed go get breakfast um
look i mean the the room is littered with with-related ephemera. We've got a microphone in a bowl.
I can't believe you sourced Tui as well.
A uniquely New Zealand beverage.
Yeah, it's a trick.
You've got to make people, you know, isn't your rider?
It's like beer awful.
Also, let's put an ad right at the end of the podcast for a change
for our sponsor, Big Pipe Broadband, who are awesome and have been supporting the podcast for a change for our sponsor big pipe broadband um who are
awesome and have been supporting the show for a long time bigpipe.co.nz if you're moving flats
moving into a new place get it in you if you are in a current standing place and you are sick of
your internet provider rip it out throw it on the street all right and then remember that you
shouldn't let it go pick it up put it in the garbage bin get on the big pipe website you can't do that because you
fucking just ripped out your internet modem go next door see what they're using is it big pipe
damn right it's big pipe because it's taking over no throttling no throttling no contracts now is
big pipe available in australia no yeah fuck man they've got no plans to enter australia that's
irresponsible corporate sabotage.
So it's not like another sponsor where maybe they'll be moving over.
Okay, so if you're in New Zealand, fucking big plug.
Oh, yeah.
If you're not in New Zealand, we say this every episode.
If you're not one of us, fuck you.
Yeah, as always.
If you're not in New Zealand, what are you doing with your life?
We're not in New Zealand.
Paul, do you have anything you want to get out there?
Yeah, 28 Plays Later has a Patreon.
It's over at patreon.com forward slash 28 Plays Later
and we have a fun fucking little animated short thing which we made
and we're going to be in Seattle later this year.
Hey, we should also...
Yeah?
Sorry, talk more about Seattle
feels like there was more
no that's it
okay
we should also briefly
because this will be on
each other's streams
describe
our shows
oh you go first
the worst idea of all time
is the name of
Guy and Maya's podcast
that's grammatically incorrect
and we watch and review
the same movie
every week for one year
so we did one year of Grown Ups 2
and then a year of Sex and the City 2.
We are about to,
we're still on break,
we're about to embark on a year
of We Are Your Friends.
We're going to spend a lot of time
with Zac Efron as he tries to make
as a DJ in Los Angeles, California.
Wait, that was your choice?
Yeah.
You went with,
that was your choice?
Yeah.
Is that meant to be bad?
It's like middling.
I can't wait.
You know what?
It'll all be explained in an episode.
I haven't seen it.
It's hard to say.
The fans are very divided on if it's, like, I'll get into this later.
No, that's an interesting choice.
Very controversial.
I was thinking you'd go, like, kind of.
My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2.
Well, here's the thing.
The first film has undeniable charm
but
I mean
is the second one
a garbage
you can't just keep going
sequels
nah
but there's a thing
everyone thought it was like
we just do sequels
there's no rules baby
we're making jazz here
have you heard of jazz
it's what we make
28 plays later
yeah
with the podcast
that plays between the notes
yeah
that's really good
we're
fucking
yeah
weekly video game podcast
my co-host Chris Straub
who is far better human than I am
is in Seattle
he's got a kid
so he's got like real responsibilities
so he's real busy
but he's also touring and stuff so he couldn't be here also as mentioned he's in Seattle so, so he's got real responsibilities, so he's real busy, but he's also touring and stuff,
so he couldn't be here.
Also, as mentioned, he's in Seattle.
So if you like video games and comedy and whatnot,
we do sketches at the start of every podcast,
and we did a live one in Melbourne last year,
which I can't express how badly it tanked.
I feel like a lot of the sketches are,
we have a lot of foley work I feel like a lot of the sketches are,
we have a lot of foley work,
which does a lot of the lifting.
So if you want to see us live,
just shut your eyes.
Mate, this is supposed to be an ad for your show.
No, it's really good.
So yeah, we're on 28playslater.com and we're on iTunes and, you know.
It's like pixels in podcast form.
Yeah, but without the severe diarrhea.
And sometimes even that
depending on how
quickly we get this
up as well
three
maybe four shows
we'd like to plug
Snort
if you're in Melbourne
very specific
if you're in Melbourne
oh yeah
if you're not in Melbourne
stop listening to the podcast
right now
go see Snort
okay
now that all those people
have left
how fucking great is Melbourne
and how terrible is it
everywhere else
see an improvised comedy
show I do every night called Snort.
It's at 9.30.
It's in the trade.
Oh, fuck, this feels weird.
No, it's all right.
Just look up Snort.
Go there.
Look up Snort with friends on the Melbourne Comedy Festival page.
Trades Hall?
Trades Hall.
I'm doing a solo show every night called Guymon Comedy.
What a brilliant name.
What a brilliant show.
It's at 6pm.
I'd love for you to make it.
I've quit comedy and I'm starting a
political campaign so
just look for the show called Vote
Bat, B-A-T-T and you'll find me there
but I've only got a few more shows left
well, check all those shows out
also, I'm directing my girlfriend
Tegan's show, that's right
I'm an impartial mediator
she's doing a show called Tegan Higginbotham and the City of Love
which is all about Paris and what not.
So there's this crepe stand, right, that's
across the road from the town hall.
And they're very French.
Like hyper French. Just beautiful
arrogant people. And they're selling
crepes. And so I wandered down and I'm like
hey, do you guys want to do a cross promotion where like
you get a free crepe and you get cheap
tickets and they're like... So suddenly
like we have an official sponsor for her show.
Love that.
And it's like a super French creperie.
The big pipe of comedy.
Yeah.
And crepes are kind of a pipe.
Yes.
Or more of a comb,
but you can't say the big cone.
Cause that's,
that's,
that's a different evening.
Drag reference.
Yeah.
And we don't care for that.
Foo for our.
So yeah. Uh, check out Tegan's show.
And also, she's in a sketch show called Watson Life Education Van for Adults.
So, you guys had the life education van down in New Zealand?
Yeah, mate.
Harold the giraffe.
Love him.
The Americans who comprise most of our audience will have no fucking idea or interest in what
we're talking about.
Right.
But you're still here.
So, suck it up.
Keep looking at how much
long is left on the podcast app what is that five minutes how do they draw five more minutes out of
this by telling you about harold the life giraffe problem is when you're a kid and you're in a
caravan with a giraffe it smells like a man's arm and suddenly they tell you you're going to space
and a bunch of people outside start shaking the caravan around
and making noises.
You'd believe it.
It's the magic school bus.
But for some reason in New Zealand and Australia
you get taught both the birds and the bees
and the nature of the universe by a puppeted giraffe.
Doesn't make any sense in retrospect, does it?
No, no.
It's the pixels of explaining stuff to kids.
Hey, quickly before we leave,
one thing you enjoyed about the movie,
starting with you, Paul.
Josh Gad was really funny.
Like, really funny.
And I think it was his screaming.
There is something so great about a larger man screaming
and his voice struggling to withhold.
It was just...
He's so pure.
You know? He was committed. Yeah. And I think he did well, mostly. it was just he's so pure you know
he was committed
yeah
and I think he did well
mostly
I'm trying to think of
specific things he did
that I enjoyed
no that's
you've done it
that's a good
shining light
alright
um
to use
you go
worst idea parlance
I would say
it seems mean spirited
but just the fact that
Dan Aykroyd did get
his skull vodka
in the movie
tickled me in its brutality.
It's just so blatant.
It was a big sledgehammer.
Yeah, that's good.
I really liked some of the Foley work
at one point when Josh Gad was singing a song
at, what was the function?
It was like a presidential...
We were singing Tears for Fears or whatever,
and then they go outside,
and Adam Sandler's talking with Michelle Moynihan.
Yeah, I love interests, woman.
Moynihan.
And then just very lightly,
like probably at 10% volume while they're talking,
you can still hear Josh Gad plugging away inside.
And I was like, fuck, yes.
Oh, and also, and I know that this,
like they planned all of this shit for me to say this, but I did like that there yes. Oh, and also, and I know that this, like,
they planned all of this shit for me to say this,
but I did like that there was a Paperboy sprite just in the back of shot a couple times as well.
Because I used to play that on Commodore 64.
It's a good game.
They got you by the balls, Timbette.
You have to watch it again for saying that.
Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
Go and live your life.
Stop listening to podcasts or keep doing it.
Do the both.
I don't know.
I'm so tired.