The Worst Idea Of All Time - Replay S01E27: Off-duty
Episode Date: March 11, 2024Please enjoy this victory lap of Season One episodes as we celebrate 10 years of The Worst Idea of All Time. New episodes posting on our Substack.Original Description:The second podcast recorded in on...e night, Tim's 27th birthday but this time AFTER watching the movie. And boy has it put the aforementioned podcast co-host in a shitty mood.While Tim is feeling sorry for himself and doing some soul searching about what it means to spend the last hours of his birthday alone in his room watching Grown Ups 2 for the 27th time, Guy is just too darn exciting by the Edinburgh Fringe Fest to be brought down by the movie and regales us with tales of a terrible gig as well as questioning what you should do if you're a drunk off-duty cop at the scene of a massive backyard brawl. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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This is one of those legendary episodes that is oft remembered by me, specifically.
Like Prawn Salad, which, what number is that?
It's coming up real soon.
Is it the next one?
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
My point is, this is an episode that was recorded on my birthday.
And I'd remembered over the years that it got a bit of a myth in my head and
in conversation and when guy and i've talked about it that like look i'm not happy to be there that
much is true um but i do like the fact that listening to it now and getting the the actual
accurate read on what was happening there's fun there's revelry there's friendship there um because i remember
just being so incredibly dark uh the whole conversation with guy but but luckily some
sunshine's poking through the clouds here it is a objectively fucked thing to do is watch
take tight take like almost two hours out of your birthday on your 27th.
This is the prime of people's lives, I believe.
27 is kind of, you know, things start to go downhill around then or shortly thereafter,
certainly in your own body.
You're in literally kind of the prime of your life.
And I'm taking an hour and a half out of my birthday
to sit down with adam sandler once again and then a good half hour to sit down with monty to discuss
it it's a sordid affair it's outrageous um but guy is all too happy to put the boot in
that much i do remember uh not so fondly but you want to know something folks it's fucking
funny this is a funny old episode i enjoyed listening to it i hope you do too um here is
me at one of my lowest ebbs of season one enjoy Feel the moment, love every day
Cause before you know it, your precious time slips away
Feel the moment
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the worst idea of all time, episode 28, I think.
Is it 8 or 7? It's 8, isn't it?
27.
What was, no. Don't get ahead of yourself no oh wait no you're right you're right you're right of course i'm right i'm brilliant
well you're a lot of things don't oversell the enthusiasm in your intro there tim
you couldn't sound happier to be here
it's still your birthday two podcasts
you're enjoying this aren't you
well I don't know I'm just thinking about
if anyone just listened to episode 26
and then they immediately
spin into this one it's quite an interesting
little sort of experiment
to listen to two gleeful
one slightly drunk men
talking about the movie
watching experience and then now after
having actually immediately watched the movie just the change in energy yeah palpable yeah
it sure is everything you've said is true um well i found that watch
draining and frankly kind of degrading what do you find degrading about it you don't think you deserve better do you i think i do
deserve better particularly on my birthday than to have to watch that movie again man
grown-ups too doesn't discriminate mate it doesn't care whether it's your birthday or your cats just died.
It keeps on tracking along.
It's a juggernaut.
Just lost your job.
Your relationships just ended.
Grownups too cares not for your shit.
Yeah.
It doesn't care,
but it's there for you.
It's not what we covered with Rose is the one staple in both of our lives.
I know,
but as we have to hang on to but as we've
talked about in previous episodes because i think you asked me the question you were like do you
find the movie to be no someone else asked me do you think it's like a warm blanket at this point
and it should be simply because of the familiarity of of seeing something that i've seen that many
times seeing it again but it's not it's fucking awful i've got to say this
was also for me arguably one of the worst fucking movie watching experiences of my life it is so bad
it's so halfway through bro when when um when kevin james and his wife like having an argument
at his mom's house i just started screaming i started just screaming
at the computer screen oh man oh man i mean and and this is the thing is like what i i
it's it was such a sapping experience i really don't know what's what there is to to say like
what's what's left for us here man that's the question we've got to
watch this movie another um what 25 25 times what's left hey what 25 times we've we've done
more than half we've done more than half guy your unflappable enthusiasm and optimism is always a
a source of inspiration for me but even that can't pull me out of the depths
that I find myself in right now.
You know what?
You need to revisit the first episode
and listen to the two plucky young adventurers
who are sort of laughing at how ridiculous the concept is.
Those fucking overconfident assholes
who have signed us up for this hellish project.
We're like those guys who went to the north pole real early before anyone else did or like um like scott who went to the
south pole and uh i'm sure when he was planning it out he was like oh you know what it's going
to be dangerous but it'll be bloody fun gents it'll be bloody exciting and then he found himself like balls deep in snow and ice and his men are dying around him and his
sled dogs are starving they've got to kill them and feed them to the remaining sled dogs
and that's us now man we're in the middle of the tundra
it might sound like a ludicrous thing to do to just go to the middle of the south pole
probably the coldest place on earth for no real reason other than we're in this massive
intercontinental dick measuring competition with norway or some other scandinavian country
but i really think i really think we're making a good decision here that's us man we'll be
remembered that's us
he is remembered
do you think
how long ago
did that happen
like a hundred years
do you think a hundred
do you think
a hundred years from now
it was about a hundred
a hundred years from now
people will be going
they did it
will we be immortalised
in some sort of
base somewhere
like Scott was
well
our podcast will live forever on the internet.
Robert Scott can't say that, can he?
Yeah, suck it, Scott.
Is that his first name?
He's Robert, eh?
I think if we've discovered anything just now,
it's that we're both hideously ignorant with regards to the South Pole expedition.
Totally, totally. i want to say pre
world war one but after turn of the century so like 1906 or something but i'm not going to google
it because you chastise me so heartily last time i tried to do anything that i've got to keep eye
contact with you this entire podcast over skype my um my drunken exuberance and energy has made way for a very slow moving and slow thinking
half naked man lying in a bed i'm just so painting i'm painting a picture for the listener at home
right now yeah pink is how i would describe you i'm looking at you i'm switching between my
computer screen and you're on the projector as well. So I'm just looking between big guy and medium-sized guy.
And how would you describe me?
You look like a porn star from the 70s.
That's pretty good.
I don't know if it is, man.
That's a pretty good description.
Oh, like accurate.
The moustache is back.
Yeah, clearly.
That's kind of what I was getting at, bro.
There it is. Isn't that a isn't
it a triumph of sorts yeah anyway look we can't get well we can get a self-indulgence we like it
so i fucking project and if you're listening this far i mean you're just gonna put up with whatever
we give you this is an intensely abusive relationship with our listeners hey like we
throw so much shit at the people who listen to this podcast. I kind of
feel bad about it.
I feel like we're really going off the rails right now.
Just to give this some semblance of
purpose, Tim, what was your shining
light in today's movie? Do you know what wasn't
my shining light? The fact that it's my
fucking birthday and this is how it's ending.
This is how the day's wrapping up.
This is the last thing that's happening.
I'm in my room alone
I think
I think
that this is a very
and you've got to take a long hard look at yourself here
this is a very accurate reflection
on your year as a 26 year old
so you've turned 27
you're capping
26 and you've got to look back at it and say
that was that was a time when I was...
You watch yourself, Guy.
If you are trying to sum up my last 12 months by tonight,
you better watch yourself.
All right, all right.
Mr. Sitting in his room feeling sorry for himself.
I mean, what are you doing right now?
What do you mean?
How can you argue with me right now what do you mean how can you how can you
argue with me right now because you're trying to paint this is this is your life no this is how
no it's not how you're this is how you are spending your birthday no genuinely that will
get the last thing you said is true how can you how can you argue with it you're in a room right
now skyping edinburgh you've just watched grown-ups 2 for the 27th time fucking how symbolic is that what i'm trying to say is that you're attempting to paint
tonight like this is my entire life like this is representative of my last 12 months of life on
earth it's fucking not man it is it's too big a coincidence not to be 27 no it's not 27th
fucking podcast you're 27
you're sitting in a room feeling sorry for yourself
you did this to yourself
I helped I'm complicit but
you put yourself there now tell me you're shining light
you little bitch
you're a real son of a bitch
Guy Montgomery montgomery what was it my what did you enjoy well i had one that i sent you but then i had sent you
another message and you said that should be the shining light so you're going to take that second
one or is that for me well you have it's yours you have to say it
one or is that for me well you have it's yours you have to say it the first one was ronaldo here's my shining light polish your voice mate with a little bit of pizzazz please uh
ronaldo is the i'm coming to terms with the fact that this is my life this is how i spent the last
year of my life i feel so sorry for myself and my name's tim bett real piece of work man
ronaldo is the fictional character on the made- soap that they've got which Levinsof watches with his mum
and
a few times at the start I thought
that it was John C. Reilly playing him
but it's not, it's just some random
character actor that they've picked up
No, he's not a character actor, I've told you this before
it's Chris Berman
he's the best known
NFL, American football sports
announcer in America.
It's a cameo.
It's another cameo.
Because at that point in the movie, they're probably like,
something's not quite clicking.
We need to plug this hole with a cameo.
You know what we need?
Another character, another cameo.
We need to distract everyone from the fact nothing's happening in this movie
by throwing a vaguely familiar face at them.
But that's not your real shining light.
What was the second amended shining light?
Well, I didn't send it in as a shining light.
I just commented and you said that it should be a shining light.
But what it was is...
What's your fucking name?
The woman?
I don't know.
The woman who's in love with Adam Sandler in the movie.
Who works with Salma Hayek.
Turns up to the faders' party.
And this is the first time I'd ever seen this.
She's wearing a shirt that says,
I,
and then it's got a picture of Adam Sandler
at, like, college age.
And then,
Leonard.
Like, I love Leonard,
but it's like,
I Leonard Leonard.
It's so good.
There's so, like, someone made that It's so good. It is so,
like someone made that in the art department.
That is a genuine Easter egg.
Yeah.
For the connoisseurs of grownups too.
And I think we should,
we should get these t-shirts,
maybe even start a Kickstarter to,
to,
to get the t-shirts.
They could be our movie watching t-shirts.
Yeah.
I like that.
I like that idea. It's not a bad, oh bad look at you picking up it's good to see i just want to see that lovely smile tim
i will please please continue to condescend me because you know that that's the way to
get me back on side what's your shining light monty uh my shining light it wasn't so much
well it's i don't know it's you know so this full-scale
brawl fight breaks out at lenny fader's party right it is um and you've got shaquille o'neal
and officer dante there who are police officers in the world of the film and they uh i was pulling
a face because i just pulled i just did the screenshot just so you know that's why i was
pulling a face don't be put off by it.
I wasn't put off by it.
And I've been drinking, right?
And my shining light is more of a question.
What is protocol for a drunken, off-duty police officer
when they're in a situation that requires the assistance or help of a police officer?
I reckon you just man up and be a cop.
But, I mean, surely you're going to come under fire.
Yeah.
If you, for like, you know,
if you make a bad call, you're going to lose your job.
You could be a hero.
In fact, that kind of,
what was that movie with Denzel Washington
when he was a bit drunk but he saved a plane? Was called flight yeah maybe it was really good it was quite recent too
it's really good you've i haven't seen it oh it's excellent it's excellent would you is that a
similar hypothetical situation yeah i'm asking about now it's a really good yeah really good
um parallel that you've drawn there because like he was he was hammered shit was going wrong
he you know what he did he just he beat a pilot and if you're sort of the shit out you'd be a cop
but what did he get in trouble for being a pilot
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but it's kind of like the central sort of theme of the story or the central part of the story is
about whether or not he gets in trouble okay well i mean i don't want to watch the movie but you haven't really answered
my police well i know i have i've answered that i reckon that even if you're an off-duty cop and
you're hammered and shit's going down i think you just got to do your best to be a cop you do you
do your job yeah i reckon what do you reckon well i'd probably call another cop and then, like, intervene,
sort of passively intervene.
Like assist?
Yeah, or just, like, try and put a lid on it
until the real police showed up.
Okay, well, here's one.
What if you're an off-duty police officer
and you're hammered and shit's going down?
Would you, like, designate another person to take charge
who isn't a cop and then you assist some rando well but even in that circumstance you're
kind of if you're delegating you're kind of taking charge as a cop and you're still going to be
coming under fire for your decision making so and then no because then if i'm doing that i might as
well just just go and wait in myself but dude this is like that um philosophical
question where you can either um what is it like there's a train going down the tracks and it's
either going to hit one person or if you like pull a lever no it'll either it'll hit three people or
you can pull a lever and then it will change tracks and hit one person and like most people
won't pull the lever because that makes them somehow like connected to it
but they're like
you know
what would you do?
I'm a
big fan of like
the greatest good for the greatest many
I'd pull that fucking lever and I'd kill a man
at my hand
I reckon I'd pull the lever too
though it's hard to say
until you're in that situation
which would never happen
well I mean it's
yeah it's a very unlikely situation
it's a philosophical question
rather than a
like an everyday
thing
I
um
someone asked me
it seems like such a ludicrous
it is a ludicrous question
though like
if
you
could get a bit
so there's a button
in front of you right and if you push the button could get a bit... So there's a button in front of you, right?
And if you push the button, you get a billion dollars.
But one person on planet Earth dies.
Do you push the button?
And of course I said no.
That's a terrible...
I don't even know why I started talking about it.
I like to think that if you do push the button,
if you do push the button if you do push the button
then you get, as soon as you get the billion dollars
you die and it turns out
you're the person
who dies and like
it's like a trick button to kill off
greedy people
and then imagine if the Christians are right
and not only do you end your own life
but you go straight to hell
oh
that's not a good button
fuck i'm really derailed the podcast terrible button um do you want to stay there okay i want
to talk about keithy's eyelashes because i don't know if we've um discussed them enough
we haven't really held into them before have you noticed those bad boys the man looks like a giraffe yeah i haven't
consciously noticed them but um now you mention it he does have he's got like big features keithy
he's got big everything he's got a big sort of it's almost chipmunkish his face yeah lovely brown
eyes really nice eyes but the eyelashes are almost too much for me like they're too long
for a boy yeah he's actually quite pretty he is pretty also the uh i feel like they couldn't
they don't really look like they could be adam sandler and selma hayek's kids
like you don't think they don't yeah i think keithy could be I think Greg probably not
yeah Keithy's got
a bit of Hispanic
a bit of a Hispanic
look about him
yeah
but and then saying that
I guess Greg's got that
sort of Adam Sandler
sort of
alpha male look about him
like the
sloped forehead
of a
the sloped forehead
of a Neanderthal
knuckle dragger
the sunken eyes of an idiot
I'm really sorry if the actor who plays
Greg is listening to this podcast
right now
it's not you, it's me
I apologise
hey, guess what guy
what Tim
it's just clicked over to 12.
Woo!
Welcome to 27.
Thanks.
No, wait, last night that happened.
But now you've had your first official day.
That's true.
So we might as well, you know,
you're in this transitory stage of your life,
turning 27.
Oh, yeah. yeah nudging closer
to adulthood
and the oblivion
I mean
do you want to
reflect on
your year as a
26 year old
or do you want to
talk about
what you hope
for yourself
as a freshly
minted 27 year old
I spent the entire
day being so
fucking stoked
really
I was so happy
all day
absolutely
because I don't often do a little
look back but on my birthday i do make a point of doing a little bit of a
contemplation absolutely taking stock and stoked again every birthday i'm usually pretty stoked
with what's happened the year before every every birthday nailed it another perfect year pretty much yeah i'm just i'm a
positive guy and i've got a lot of things to be positive about in my life no doubt which was you
done in a bout face since 10 minutes ago no no that's the thing the about face was like i'm grim
right now this is the grimness this is the turnaround because i was happy all day
i was happy the whole day and then i watched the fucking movie
do you think like because you know how it's sort of it's built a bit of a friendship between us
obviously this movie do you think by the end of it that we won't be able to look at each other
anymore like because we'll we'll so associate the other person with that time of our lives shit
i didn't think of that because just then i was thinking you're sitting there you're going oh
i've had such a great day and then i got really upset because the movie was on what do you think
of when you think of grown-ups too other than guy you think of guy and so i feel like there's
definitely some sort of association you have with seeing my face and being upset or angry.
I never really thought about the Pavlovian aspect of linking you to this terrible feeling of the movie.
But you're probably right, man.
There's something there.
I haven't felt it yet.
But it might be coming.
Storm brewing.
Storm brewing.
Storms are brewing.
And what are your goals for 27, mate?
What are you looking to tick off the old bucket list?
I want to knock this bad boy off.
I want to see the movie 52 times.
I don't want to miss a week, and I don't want to miss a moment,
and I don't want to miss a podcast.
I don't know, man.
Goals are for suckers, in my experience.
You don't want to do too specific goals.
Failing to plan is planning to fail tim that
is demonstrably untrue i am a known planner i'm i'm on i'm on top of my shit son you are a planner
you're saying that like you're trying to be facetious but you plan you plan big time and
look at me i'm talking to you actually this is a pretty good
like night and day example
of who's the happier party right now
but I feel like
it shouldn't be taken as the absolute snapshot
well
outside my window right now
the world of Edinburgh rages on
I can't wait to finish this old
to wrap this
27th podcast up
with a bow, dip out the door.
I'm going to go and try and see eight shows today.
Wow, that's a lot of shows, man. What have you been
seeing so far? What have you enjoyed?
There's so much good stuff
happening. Lots of sketch,
lots of sketch comedy over here,
but it's sort of established and
tried enough that the best
stuff is people who are messing around with the form.
So it's not like your traditional sketch set up.
Like there's one show by these guys called Sheeps.
It's called a Wembley Preview.
And the premise is that the show that they're performing is just a preview for a gig that they have in Wembley next month.
And they go out on stage, and they do their opening sketch,
and then they're all like,
oh, no, no, no,
I don't think we quite got the punchline right.
Oh, sorry, terribly sorry,
we're going to do it again.
And then over the hour,
they do the same sketch,
like 20 times with a different,
like, bend on it,
like a different punch.
And it's so amazing.
Fuck, it's clever.
That's really cool cool that's a great
format
the volume is so great
for every show like that there is a show which is
completely different
it's been real mind opening
well let me ask you this Mr Positivity
Mr Sunshine, seen any shiters?
yep seen some real duds mate seen some real duds i actually i had a walkout a couple of days ago my first walkout of the festival you walked out and walked out on them it was this i'm not gonna
i don't want to um tarnish anyone's names in case uh they you know they become successful and they listen to the podcast
they won't cast me in their in their buddy comedy flick are you wearing pants uh yeah i'm wearing
pants okay um but it was like a lineup show of these sort of young comics they were pretty green
in in their defense but they had a massive like they had about 100 and something people in there
in their venue which they're doing the free fringe at like three o'clock in the afternoon it's a pretty
big like apparently on average there's like five people attending each show at the fringe if you
average the whole thing out of the thing so they've got a big crowd in and the mc goes up and just
starts bombing immediately oh no like just like in record time, loses the room.
He never had the room to lose.
So he just walked... Can I stop you there for a second?
You're scratching the microphone against something.
It's very kind of prickly or something.
Oh, no, that's not good.
Something weird's going on.
All right, anyway.
So he doesn't have the room.
Yeah.
He does like five minutes of what
I guess he would describe as material
and then moves on to crowd work.
Uh-oh. And he's trying to encourage people to applaud five minutes of what I guess he would describe as material and then moves on to crowd work.
Uh-oh.
And he's trying to encourage people to applaud in anticipation of bringing the next act on.
Sure.
And he sort of singles out two people.
One woman we'll call her Wendy.
One guy we'll call him Bob.
And he goes,
all right, Wendy,
I want you to leave the chair on this side of the room
and Bob,
I want you to leave the chair on this side of the room.
He doesn't build any rapport with them.
Right.
So then he,
anyway,
eventually wheelchair,
the first comic comes out and somehow is worse than the mc and it was just like oh my fucking god so he goes
on for what feels like seven hours and then and then real time mc i don't know the mc then he
walks on stage and like a wave of relief washes over the crowd and then the fucking mc i don't know the mc then he walks on stage and like a wave of relief washes over the crowd
and then the fucking mc peeks around the curtain and walks on stage and i was like oh that's right
this goes forever and he goes to the he goes to wendy he goes hey wendy you're enjoying yourself
and wendy goes yeah uh and he's like not the most confident response but very quick and then and this is
when it got really risky like i don't know why he would ask this question when the gig is so
obviously going horribly he goes across the other side of the room and he goes what about you bob
you're enjoying yourself and bob goes yeah and then the crowd applauds bob for his honesty oh no yeah but then everyone we just kept sitting
there watching this show and then after like 45 minutes the mc came out and started doing material
about the lyrics to bound to by kanye west trying to be satirical and that's when i said
enough is enough this madness must end yeah
and so that's probably the worst one I've seen
fuck hey that's
enlightening because everyone talks
about the awesome shows
that they're saying and all the great comedy but it's
good to know that there's some right old shitters
in there as well
it's the nature of the beast and it's why
it all works really isn't it as David Spade
says in Grown Ups 2
they're not all teens buddy
oh yeah that's what he says
they're not all teens
I have also found myself quoting Grown Ups 2
out of context for no one but myself
like I'll just put it into conversation
as though it's a sentence that I've thought of
just to see if I can slip one past the goalie which I'm pretty I'm pretty I'm pretty sure it's a sign that I'm losing
my mind I can't cite a specific example but I just like in conversation I'll just quote it
and no one else no one else recognizes the quote recognizes the quote from grown-ups too but they
don't even like because when I've done it, they don't even recognise
it as a
reference.
Usually people
will be like,
oh, what's
that from?
But because
the lines are
so nonsensical
and stupid,
it's like,
well, Tim's
an idiot.
That definitely
didn't come
from a script.
There's no
way someone
wrote and
performed that.
Exactly.
Guy, it
looks like it's
time for us
to scooch.
Yeah.
What was your shining light again?
It was more of a philosophical question.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, it does.
My shining light was that the film challenged me,
as I'm sure this podcast has challenged many of you at home.
Been an absolute pleasure doing business with you, everyone.
As always, don't watch the movie.
Join us next week for episode 28.
And like us on Facebook, worst idea of all time.
Yeah, we've gone a little too long to do this,
but we should have read some of the comments on Facebook
because people have been very lovely in sending us well wishes
which we appreciate getting and
just as something to look forward to
there's a plethora or plethora
depending on where you're from of guests who are keen
to hop on board this podcast
train as soon as Guy Montgomery gets back
in the country. We've got
some big names. Dai Hemwood I saw at
7 Days When I Did last week and he's like
dude I need in
on the Scronups 2 thing
that's what he said to me
so he's very keen
awesome
he's jumping in
one of many
Dom Corey also
very very keen
oh that's good
because he writes about film
for our biggest newspaper
wow he's a professional
film critic
that is his gig
that is his job
that's amazing
yeah
well lots to look forward to
happy birthday to you tim
and to you kind listener whatever you're doing it's got to be better than what we're doing
good night everybody