The Worst Idea Of All Time - Replay S01E39: Farrier

Episode Date: March 23, 2024

Please enjoy this victory lap of Season One episodes as we celebrate 10 years of The Worst Idea of All Time. New episodes posting on our Substack.Original Description:Guy and Tim are joined by beloved... kiwi journalist David Farrier. This week: Tim has to buy a $250 T-shirt; enthusiastic letters from fans, some Insane Clown Posse, rampant capitalism and more Paddy Shwartz! Also, physics, CGI animals, #instagramchat, more defence of David Spade and what's the deal with cross-desolves? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody, it's Timbo and I'm back and you might be able to hear some lawnmower action going on in the background. Clearly that is not me, that is my wife. Very special guest on this episode. You might know him from the series he did for Netflix, Dark Tourist. You might know him from Tickled, one of the absolute craziest documentaries ever. You might know him from his current work, Web Worm, which is a truly fantastic newsletter that David Farrier puts out. Obviously, who it is is David Farrier.
Starting point is 00:00:40 You might know him from Armchair Expert. But before all of these projects that he engaged in he was the coolest weirdest journalist knocking around new zealand um who was allowed to be on the tally and david ferry i think is one of those guys that new zealand kind of owes him a real debt of gratitude which i don't think we sort of recognize. But he really contributed a lot of cool weirdness to the nightly news. And there used to be sort of like a late night news situation in New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:01:18 It kind of changed names a few times, but David was often involved and he would get like death metal bands to play into the, into the weather report. And he'd be covering, you know, we all the weird oddities that you've seen him do with a proper international
Starting point is 00:01:32 budget now, but he was doing them in New Zealand, earning his stripes and learning how everything worked. So anyway, my key point here is very grateful to have had David Farrier on the podcast and have that locked away, that record. No one can take it from us, not even David himself. So it's fun to flashback 10 years ago
Starting point is 00:01:55 and listen to a man who was destined for such great things have to sit through our 39th watch of Grown Ups 2 and a long overdue apology to david sorry that we talked uh through the actual watch itself and you missed a few a few bits in there um but i hope everyone enjoys this collegial slightly frustrated um warm conversation with a kiwi icon david ferry okay hello welcome along to the Worst Idea of All Time podcast. My name's Guy Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:02:47 My name is Tim Batt. And this week we have a very special guest. What's your name? David Farrier. It's nice to be here with you guys. Big fan. And it's nice to be sitting here after watching Grown Ups 2. For me, for the first time.
Starting point is 00:02:59 That's right. David Farrier, 3 News reporter. And kind of freelance journalist. Freelance everyman. Parrot owner. Pink t-shirt wearer. Actor. Actor.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Dreamer. Short poppies. Dancer. Lover. Visionary. Food critic. All true. I'll take any opportunity that comes my way, including being here with you guys on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Thank you. And the first thing I realized, I don't know how quickly we want to get into this. including being here with you guys on this podcast. Thank you. And the first thing I realized, I don't know how quickly we want to get into this, but I got this film confused with the Hot Tub Time Machine film or franchise in my head, where you've got this big ensemble of comedians in their sort of 30s, 40s, 50s, all coming together. And today. So, yeah, there you go. And so, 40s, 50s, all coming together. And today.
Starting point is 00:03:45 So, yeah, there you go. And so, I mean, what were you expecting? You were just expecting more time spent in a jacuzzi, presumably. Well, no, I just thought this film, because I haven't seen either of these movies, and I thought that, for some reason, I thought it was about a group of friends travelling back in time to sort of relive their youth another time.
Starting point is 00:04:03 But, of course, being called grown-ups, I thought it was about that. I see. But of course, that's hot type time machine. In a way, it's not not about that. Yeah. No, this is about a group of men who are... Regressing. Yeah, regressing.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I don't know if they've ever gone, never not regressed. I mean, I don't think they've ever matured beyond puberty. They're just goofing around. Just a couple of guys, could be anyone, just goofing around. They're just having a around. Just a couple of guys, could be anyone, just goofing around. They're just having a day together.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And I mean, for me, this film was just... You sound like Peter Dante, cast member of Peter Dante. Jesus. An oppressor he did for the movie. Trying to describe... You're actually quoting
Starting point is 00:04:37 a press release for the movie. It's about... This film is about a group of guys walking around their town from shop to outside location to another store to a home. Yeah. Just living their lives. You had a lot of questions throughout the viewing, David, about like, where's the story?
Starting point is 00:04:54 It was weird for me because I listened to the podcast and so watching it for the first time, I had so, because I knew you could answer any questions I had as the movie went on. Yeah. So, of course, I'd tap into that. But it's such a weird experience because... Well, a lot of your questions don't have answers though. Like, where's the plot? There's no answer to that. I can genuinely say I have not watched a film before
Starting point is 00:05:16 that's got no plot points and mainly no conflict. There's no point where I'm worried for any of these characters and their lives. But that's not necessarily no conflict. That's just that's poorly made you're not invested in any one or thing in the film it's both i think it's both yeah but i mean it's a lot of time to spend with something in which you have no investment or interest no and it spreads your interest for a year mate it spreads it seems to just spread things too thinly. There's so many people popping up. The instant you maybe start to think,
Starting point is 00:05:48 oh, this is a character I'd like to spend more time with, you're on to 10, 15, 20 other people. When did you think that? I thought at the beginning. I thought the guy, a couple of them. Who was the one that was a bit like Kevin James? His brother, the principal. The principal cardio.
Starting point is 00:06:06 There was a guy in there. I don't even know. That's the thing. I can't even remember a lot of those characters. There was nothing. It scrambles your brain, doesn't it? They do. And they introduce characters at the right at the start, especially.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Just like, all right. Okay, you got that one. Now, here's three more. Okay, now here's nine more. Now, here's 27 more characters. And now here's nine more. Now here's 27 more characters. And now... And all in a new setting. Here's 121 new characters to learn.
Starting point is 00:06:30 You could feel the directions on the script just jumping out at you. It's like, right, now we're in a house. Now we're in a Kmart. Now we're in another house. Now we're at this lake. And you're just jumping from location to location. Someone's cousin works in like set design
Starting point is 00:06:45 and building like the mafia of Hollywood is Adam Sandler's cousins who work in set design and building and he just like
Starting point is 00:06:51 they just muscled in to hire out a whole lot of work for themselves they wrote the script they wrote the script because there is that mystery of
Starting point is 00:06:59 it's Adam Sandler it's him without Adam Sandler this film wouldn't exist yeah but he occupies this place in Hollywood now where he can get It's Adam Sandler. It's him. Without Adam Sandler, this film wouldn't exist. Yeah. But he occupies this place in Hollywood now where he can get... Because people go to this film. So he gets a return on these terrible films.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And so he keeps making them. Well, I mean, there's a few points because in discussing it with several different people through the podcast, there's a few points which are constantly raised. And one of them is that, do you not think it looks like a lot of fun for them to make that movie because no one's invested
Starting point is 00:07:28 in the product it's just that because hasn't Adam Sandler talked about this he just does a movie if it's fun if it's like essentially
Starting point is 00:07:35 he did that one with Drew Barrymore because he wanted to go to the location so it was a holiday with a movie tech guy so he'll do that film but yeah they are
Starting point is 00:07:42 they're joking around on set there's nothing there's no big investment from them they turn up each day they probably get fed quite well they're with their friends phenomenal catering
Starting point is 00:07:50 probably get Blaze pizza yeah get that juice what was the juice they kept oh they get Mott's Mott's juice that's the juice of choice
Starting point is 00:07:58 in Grown Ups 2 want to try some Mott's juice oh yeah I'm craving some Mott's juice some Pepsi maybe we can nip down to Kmart and see what they've got Guy
Starting point is 00:08:04 do you know what I like to do when I'm on Venice Beach after I visited my mate Paddy at Gold's? And I've also just got a slice. You've had a pretty intense workout throwing some tin around. And you've got some Blaze pizza. Throwing a slice or two of Blaze pizza down me. On this already perfect Sunday, Tim, what could you possibly want to top off that perfect combination of activities?
Starting point is 00:08:21 I actually forgot where I was going with that. You want Mott's juice Oh yeah Mott Something I liked about The film I'm big into CGI creatures in films And they made real good use
Starting point is 00:08:33 Of that CG deer Yeah Just trapping through the house Clearly wasn't real It was clearly It wasn't bad CGI I think it was pretty bad I think that was pretty bad CG
Starting point is 00:08:44 Do you think the dog is real no there were a couple of scenes where the dog was a prop where someone was definitely holding it up it was never CG
Starting point is 00:08:52 but there was a couple of points where it was a real dog but like definitely they put a weird filter on it or
Starting point is 00:08:57 something like Mayfair the dog comes out looking real odd no it does like Mayfair are you quoting Instagram filters
Starting point is 00:09:04 as like colour grades on one animal that is funny David Spade what's he been doing until now oh Josh Shootme was pretty good
Starting point is 00:09:13 what was that just the other day Joe Dirt Joe Dirt meet Joe Dirt he's doing a second Joe Dirt film I think I think he's been
Starting point is 00:09:20 doing some stand up I've seen some stand up videos he's done some stand up recently he did a really good WTF back on the club circuit i haven't heard that one i would love to hear that i write david spade it was but the other thing like when how do you feel about jumping around i felt weird it dragged it started off very pacey and you were jumping from location to location there were a lot of gags coming thick and fast but i think like the last third went pretty slow like it was just yeah man it was at the one party it drags well god it dragged and then by the time the credits ran i was picturing people because when the credits are up
Starting point is 00:09:55 i'm always reminded that i'm in the cinema i've just seen a great film as opposed to when in your lounge now sure and you're wondering about the discussions people are having when they're leaving that cinema like guys that oh god that was good you know let's oh god i want to see it again you know it's a very different discussion to when you leave that film to when you've left interstellar i thought you were going to say interstellar yeah it's such a but people paid money to see that but what do you talk about on the ride home after growing up remember when that no because well okay a brass i remember atlas i imagine like a 14 year old teenage boy is probably who's gonna love this movie do you know i'm saying that was way too
Starting point is 00:10:32 sophisticated i'm thinking if i'm as a 14 year old teenage boy if i left a movie like that i can't imagine enjoying it as even though i probably would have back then but i'm like you just quote you'd be quoting you'd just be quoting you, you're going, that poor old lady. Who wants to watch me climb a rope? And you're just walking out the cinema, just drop parroting your favorite tidbit. I know this is slightly a different point to the one you're trying to make, but I love that you're grabbing catchphrases
Starting point is 00:10:56 from all these accidental side characters. We then probably made it up on the day and no one wrote that in the script. That would be one. That would be one that would in the script exactly what we're supposed to be saying is like what or um or burp snarting like one of us busts out one of those that's what they intended to be the catchphrase what do you mean to take away from that movie i guess you just meant to have had a laugh did you have a laugh i know i love i really the physical
Starting point is 00:11:21 gags god they got me whenever an inflatable boat was inflated suddenly, hilarious. Twice. Shaq. They went back to that water fountain. Shaq in that little playhouse, just kind of his head poking out. Shaq's so big and the playhouse is so small. That's funny. That's juxtaposition.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Jinx, personal jinx. Timbac, Timbac, Timbac. Thanks, mate. We're friends. Thanks, mate. I took some notes. I'm just, Timbatt, Timbatt. Thanks mate. I took some notes. I'm just going to have a look through the notes that I took. Oh,
Starting point is 00:11:50 that fitness class with the woman. It's squat Robux 101. Yeah, squat Robux. John Lovitz. Oh, Janitor came in and started sort of, cause I mean, I've been,
Starting point is 00:11:59 I don't know. I've been reading a few essays recently, like, you know, people talking about the roles of female in film and, and sort of how in the role specifically in fast and furious how females are used in those films and like males and all that kind of stuff yeah but females in this film are just kind of god it's the worst example they've got nothing they've got they're either to do with a male character
Starting point is 00:12:18 or they're there for a gag and that particular scene was the worst case because they're just they're all idiots you know this, the janitor wanders in There's obviously a janitor Obviously And suddenly they're squatting They're turning around They're slapping their bums for him There doesn't appear to be a Gina Davis of our generation
Starting point is 00:12:37 We need one When old hottie dude walks in Paul Hudson Then it instantly goes into Oh, you're so hot. Yeah, they're all swooning. Oh, he's gay. They get really angry as well when they find out he's gay.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Like mobbish. That scene for me, I guess, was stuck in my head because it was so, God, it was dumb. It was real dumb. You've got to meet the movie on its terms, though. That's the Dom Corey-ism. That's the Dom Corey-ism right there. And this is not a movie that is looking to impact social change. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Four guys get together and I believe, I'll quote yourself David, they have a day. That is the movie. They're walking around the town. And what a day it was. It was a bed. That's the funny thing. Just back to that deer coming in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Were they, because I thought when that deer coming in yeah were they because i thought when that first started i thought they just moved into a forest or something like they'd moved house or something and that would be part of the plot connecticut and they're in connecticut around like well obviously they own some land because you know when they're doing the scene at the front of the driveway like they're they're somewhat removed from the house like there's trees around the house there's an off chance maybe they live near a nature reserve and there could be some deer that would wander in.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Maybe a curious deer wanders into the... I don't think it's rural, though. It doesn't look rural, but it's a leafy town. It feels like there's trees everywhere. Like a lifestyle block. It was such a bold start to the film and it didn't have a lot to do with the rest of it
Starting point is 00:14:06 except for in the end when that deer hilariously got the bad guy in the nuts. You would not have been a hit in the script writer's room for this one, Dave. I was pissing on everyone. Yeah, the deer just starts urinating because it's funny when animals piss on people, man. It's funny. It's comedy. It's comedy. That's hashtag comedy.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Hashtag hilarious. Yeah, a lot of physical, I guess for me, the thing I take from the film was I really enjoyed the physical gags. The poo coming out, the ice cream coming out from the ice cream dispenser. I need to ask you an important question, David. Because you've only seen the film once so this is great did you i love that about you did you notice a um a huge amount of product placement did brands pop out at you or was it i mean it was the kmart they were in or the walmart there was a kmart that is sacrilegious on this podcast it's so i thought i didn't think
Starting point is 00:15:04 kmart was an American thing. I thought it was just all Walmart. Someone else said that. I thought Kmart was Australasia. Why do New Zealanders think that we started Kmart? I thought we started Kmart. It's an American brand. Maybe Kmart is launching in America now
Starting point is 00:15:14 and they just thought, well, how can we get our name out there and whack a shitload of money in an Adam Sandler flip? Kmart jumped out and when they're in that supermarket towards the end there, or the middle, when was it?
Starting point is 00:15:24 I don't even know. The supermarket. It's in the third movement. There were products jumping out. But I mean, what sort of product placement does that put in your brain? I mean, do you leave thinking, I saw that juice in there. I better buy some pizza, juice, milk, grated cheese. It's not like a car or something they're driving.
Starting point is 00:15:42 It's like a juice behind some dudes in a cinema. They're not going to be anything specific. They're just like, just go out there and buy some shit. That's the product placement of the movie is commercialism. Yeah, but that's the beauty of product placement. I love it. I love it. What do you want after you watch that movie?
Starting point is 00:15:57 What do you want to walk out of the door and buy? Fuck, do you know what I could go right? I could go a Mott's juice box right now. I could down Mott's. David, right now, one thing. You walk out the door, what would you go and buy? Oh, Mott's, hands down. That's all there. I mean go a Mott's juice box right now I could down my them David right now one thing you walk out the door what would you go and buy oh Mott's
Starting point is 00:16:07 hands down that's all there I mean it's that delicious so refreshing we don't have Mott's we are actually just a word to anyone if you do work at Mott's
Starting point is 00:16:14 we are still interested in sponsorship from wherever that may come we need money because number one apparently I have to buy a $250 t-shirt because someone
Starting point is 00:16:24 called me on my bullshit that's right good work fans so in an early podcast David Tim Batts said you know that catchphrase what that Tim Meadows
Starting point is 00:16:31 tries out through the whole movie Tim said at some point I haven't heard the quote but he said I would spend so I made a t-shirt with that catchphrase on it
Starting point is 00:16:39 I would spend like $250 on that and someone a fan has made the t-shirt Jesus and set the price tag at $250 oh that and someone, a fan, has made the t-shirt and set the price tag at $250. Oh my God. But I love that they've gone to a lot of trouble too
Starting point is 00:16:50 because they've looked at the current currency conversion because it's a US store. So they've got exactly this odd amount which equals exactly $250 in New Zealand. No, but that's exactly the sort of audience member you guys have got. That's exactly who's listening. It's that kind of brain.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And I do think you should spend that money on that too I have to there's no way around it but like that's a lot of money that is I'm gutted
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm super gutted but there's no way around it quick stray observation two things I wanted to raise briefly please the scene where they're all sort of jumping nude
Starting point is 00:17:20 into the water yes off Suicide 35 off the top rock they were off, they were going, they were doing the whoop whoop often,
Starting point is 00:17:27 which is a juggalo, sort of, I think it's a juggalo phrase. That's what I'm wondering because the juggalos, I don't know a lot about juggalos. They're fans of Insane Clown Posse and their catchphrase is whoop whoop,
Starting point is 00:17:40 which is what they were doing. Maybe I was mishearing it. Was it more of a woo woo? No, dude, I reckon you're on point it was a bit of a woo woo yeah well they were that's a juggler
Starting point is 00:17:47 I mean it feels like it does feel like an odd match as far as a affiliation with the juggalos for grown ups too I don't feel like they're really targeting the juggalos
Starting point is 00:17:55 but that's the beautiful thing about juggalos bro it is like a brotherhood it's very egalitarian they don't look through a lens of age or upbringing it's all about inclusion
Starting point is 00:18:06 um it's real lovely listening to the music of insane clown posse so i'll be curious about that link whether there's anything in there or that was purely just you know the icp got investigated by the fbi for a while because that was tax evasion wasn't it or something i thought it was i thought the fbi were concerned that it was a gang all right there was a court case right and they basically had to determine if the juggalos like was a gang turns out they're not i think i really enjoyed that moment with the juggalos um oh god it was terrible film i had some other points you got another point i wrote down some well listen while you're finding that I've actually just
Starting point is 00:18:45 dug something up I'd like to do oh yes of course yeah yeah while you find a point if you would like to we got a message on our Facebook page
Starting point is 00:18:54 and this is I mean we've received a few messages over the course of time this is pretty pretty impressive well written sort of bit from VR DLC
Starting point is 00:19:02 it's a very unique name presumably a pseudonym. V. To try and hide from, you know, whoever that may be on the internet. V. V. Okay, I'll read to you.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Thank you very much for this. It says, I just started listening to this, just finished episode seven, and I'm honoured that you have decided to share your slow descent into madness with the world. I have to say,
Starting point is 00:19:21 I enjoyed Grown Ups 2, and even I don't ever really want to watch it again, and even I don't ever really want to watch it again. And even I don't ever really want to watch it again. I love movies that are disasters. Not just bad movies, but actual shocking disasters. About once a year, I get the itch to see a genuine disaster. And Adam Sandler, surprisingly enough, rarely provides one.
Starting point is 00:19:37 R-A-R-A. So like, very occasionally. His bad movies are simply unfunny and boring boring like the first Grown Ups was. But every once in a while, there is a disaster. There's an old dog or a Nick the Bus Driver as a tiny dicked porn star. I don't remember the name now, but he has a micro penis
Starting point is 00:19:54 and makes a condom out of a pen cap so Christina Ricci doesn't get pregnant. What I feel makes Grown Ups 2 so special is that they didn't even try. They didn't try so hard that there isn't even a plot. There are no real antagonists. The closest thing to a problem that any character has is Sandler doesn't want a kid,
Starting point is 00:20:08 and it's resolved when he decides that he does want a kid. That's it. And between the opening and closing scenes of Sandler and his wife in bed, there's an endless stream of sketches. Hearing you share your highlight of the recent viewing makes me smile, because it makes me remember my favourite moments.
Starting point is 00:20:21 The winks at the cameras, the non sequiturs, and most importantly, John Lovitz, who I'm sure you have heard by now was not merely a critic character on the simpsons but had his own amazing show called the critic when i watched grown-ups too i had to stop and go back numerous times in order to send the highlights of the film to my friends via snapchat i lost a lot of friends that day but the ones who stayed will be my friends forever thank you for sharing this with us i couldn't do what you're doing and i liked grown-ups too isn't that a fucking incredible message thank you so much so well written yeah well articulated and all pretty pretty good points although you know i wouldn't call it a disaster you know it's it's not a good film but it's not a disaster like The Room is a disaster. No, and this is the point.
Starting point is 00:21:06 So when Guy and I were kicking around movie titles for this kind of concept early on before we started, an early front runner was Con Air. But I was like, I genuinely think that movie is awesome. I completely agree. That's a sweet movie. Too good. And still Steve Buscemi, which I don't think I've ever thought of. And the other thing and
Starting point is 00:21:25 then so like the room i kind of came to the list and i was like no because the room's so bad that you would enjoy multiple viewings because it's bad you're not enjoying this film because it's terrible you're enjoying it there are some gags that are funny yeah laughing at the gags exactly it's zero it's not a negative neutral it's zero this movie is nothing i always wonder what was it like for you watching watching it with us how did you feel we engaged with the film i felt you i was impressed at the beginning that it was uh your cell phones were turned off but then i thought you'd be sort of right into it but you drifted at times you know there was a lot of talk between the two of you uh and i that made it difficult for me to watch at times because I missed certain lines.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I was trying to remind Guy. For instance, at the end where Adam Sandler is talking to his unborn child through his wife's stomach. We could probably recite that. You were talking over that. We could do it now. And I didn't know what happened. And you wanted to know what happened. Well, I did because obviously it's him coming to terms with the fact he's a father.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And that was the one, as your listener pointed out, that was the one bit of conflict. He didn't want this baby. That was the resolution to that. Your bars seem too high. And I couldn't hear. Okay. Well, do you want to know what he says to the baby? Please.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He makes a joke about how he wants to sleep with the ballet teacher that he's saying to his unborn fetus. Yeah. He's like, tells him, hey, and you do ballet. Because I got to see that teacher again. Oh, God. Yeah. fetus yeah that is and like he's like tells i'm a first hey and you do ballet because i gotta see that teacher again yeah oh god yeah and then then he's like and he's like no i'm just kidding your mom's totally all good uh okay i'm gonna have sex with your mom now watch your head and then just when they're about to have sex he does a burp a fart and a sneeze at the same time and he says
Starting point is 00:23:01 he did it for the baby there's your conflict resolution there's your foreplay god jesus is that it sandler is a storm of sexuality okay here's a hurricane i thought maybe there was a moment of some sort of level of well in fairness we should have given you the chance to to no you accurately portrayed and you have seen it how many times 39 jesus uh foley effects was my last point oh yes that fight towards the end yeah uh the effects were very loud the punching the punching um people falling over it was overboard it was it was really effective it was like a cartoon yeah there's a weird cartoon moment within it um and we'll go back to your your point of audio production and and just a tick dave bookmark that where um the principal who has had blue paint constantly poured on himself and his belongings and some sort of weird recurring end of year gag so he has had paint
Starting point is 00:23:57 poured on him on the last day of school by his students he goes with it and dresses up as a smurf he then jumps out of a tree house which is he is inexplicably inside of for the party. Rumpus swaying, looking at his wife and children. Lands on four people, and in the only moment of true cartoon physics in the film, they then become completely painted with blue paint also. I noticed it happen, but I thought I'd missed something. You haven't.
Starting point is 00:24:23 It doesn't... So the universe of Grown Ups 2 noticed it happen but i thought i'd miss something you haven't it make it doesn't so they've the universe of grown-ups too is not a universe where the physics are that different um you can't die you're immortal we learn this because nick has multiple fatal injuries throughout the film and yet it's fine they all do when they jump off suicide 35 they all so that's what would be i'm completely fine with it because some movies go let's remove death because death's a bit of a bummer so in our universe death doesn't happen and there's cleavage everywhere you don't need to worry about these characters dying at any point exactly but this blue paint the blue paint
Starting point is 00:24:59 introduces a level of cartoon physics to the universe they've built which is referenced nary no for a second in any part of the film. Who's David Spade in the tyre is pretty cartoonish. It's possible though. No it's possible. You can roll the guy in a tyre. I completely bought that. The transfer of blue paint. The transfer of blue
Starting point is 00:25:18 paint is metaphysical. I bought into the tyre. I was there with the tyre. I was sold on the tyre. The blue paint, I was confused at that moment, but I thought I'd missed something and there was some other paint involved. But yeah, you land on someone as a blue painted man and suddenly the other men are blue.
Starting point is 00:25:34 We better get to our regular features before we burn out the clock too much, man. So we gave you a vague rundown on what was required during the film. First of all, we'll go for... Which is the part of the podcast where we talk about Patrick Schwarzenegger
Starting point is 00:26:07 son of Arnold how did you find out he was the son of Arnold? we google a lot of stuff we look at the credits I think what I love about our Facebook page is that we've become a real dumping ground for any small titbit on anyone who's in the film or it's production
Starting point is 00:26:24 or anything. People go hey did you read this? We're like nah The page was going bananas when Paddy got with Miley. Oh yeah Miley Cyrus and her have recently hooked up and everyone was just chomping at the bit to let us know. I've said it before I'll say it again and I felt like a proud parent that we'd sort of tabbed Paddy Schwartz for greatness
Starting point is 00:26:39 Was that the photo that Schwartzy Arnold Schwarzenegger posted up on his Instagram weeing next to? He was weeing next to his son? Yeah. That was an unusual photo to Instagram. It was a real one. Real proud of the man you've grown into, son. Favorite moment.
Starting point is 00:26:56 There were a lot of sort of facials of him just standing. Great face. The whole movie actually was fun watching extras where things were going on, where they were looking, what they were doing, what their faces were doing. Yeah. But I think for old Paddy, Paddy Schwartz, probably... Paddy! Paddy!
Starting point is 00:27:14 Paul, you know our boy Paddy's coming over here. Paddy. Yeah, boy. Probably the old... Paddy Schwartz is a juggalo. I like it. Yeah, I like that. Because I imagine Paddy Schwartz is a juggalo I like it Yeah I like that I love where you're getting to
Starting point is 00:27:25 Because I imagine Paddy Schwartz Going off to like The big meeting of the juggalos Face painting going on Yeah Real fuck Oh yeah Paddy Schwartz juggalos
Starting point is 00:27:34 Paddy I don't like you Going to these parties Shut up dad I'm a juggalo now Deal with it Patrick I did not get to where I am today By going to frat parties every weekend.
Starting point is 00:27:47 You need to listen to me. It's about acceptance, Dad. I'm going to meet my brother. Patrick, I love you, but you need to listen to what I'm saying. Who the fuck is Arnold Schwarzenegger from, bro? Apparently Venice all of a sudden. Not Venice Beach, but actual Venice in Europe.
Starting point is 00:28:02 A European version of Textedit. Yeah, it, for me, kind of believing he was a juggalo and had that in his background, his character made a lot more sense to me. And so that was my menace. Good party time. It's time for us to jump in the bus.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Because. All aboard the bus. Da, da, da. Ba, ba, ba. Ba. Da, da, da, da. Roll up. Roll up. Roll up Roll up It's a magical mystery tour
Starting point is 00:28:30 Roll up Roll up The mystery tour The Steve Buscemi mystery tour Is coming to take you away Coming to take you away Too much singing bro Yeah man Too much We gotta bro. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Too much. We've got to pull it in. A lot more. Pull it in, boy. Should have been in. So we told you about the Steve Buscemi mystery tour? Yeah, yeah. Roughly the fact we don't, we haven't watched the first film. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:56 We haven't. So we don't know where, what his character's backstory is at all. He made some, he references an injury. He's got an injury. We want to know how he got it. Did he do goalposts? Yeah, he did. Was it goalposts?
Starting point is 00:29:09 Touchdown symbol, goalposts, yeah. And he's only got 40% feeling in his body. And his arms have been in that position for two years. What could cause that? What could cause that? Dr. Farrier? I'm imagining... I'm imagining...'m imagining I mean
Starting point is 00:29:26 from the goalposts I'm imagining it was some sort of football injury so I'm imagining in some sort of comical way Steve Buscemi made his way onto the field
Starting point is 00:29:36 what do you call it in football the pitch the field the field's good and I think maybe got targeted by some gridiron players that were playing
Starting point is 00:29:44 and got taken out yeah got taken out. Yeah. Absolutely taken out. And it was comical because Steve Buscemi's character was never meant to be on the football field. He's an older guy. He looks a bit funny. And he just got annihilated.
Starting point is 00:29:54 How did he get on the field? Was he following a butterfly maybe? I think perhaps this is just the whole reference to the water boy. He was a water boy perhaps. A comical sort of water boy. But maybe my brain is just getting confused from the other anims in the film. And the water boy somehow made a water boy Perhaps A comical sort of water boy But maybe my brain Is just getting confused From the other anims In the film
Starting point is 00:30:06 And the water boy Somehow made it onto the pitch Somehow maybe Got into uniform I smell trouble He's wearing a helmet That's crazy Yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:30:14 And then suddenly Boom maybe He gets given the ball Accidentally Uh oh Here's trouble And he becomes You know he doesn't know
Starting point is 00:30:21 Whether to run or just But he freezes He freezes He freezes What's going to happen to him? And then the other players on the other team, they all tackle him very hard. He just slams down on the ground. You've really sold Guy on this one.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah, there's probably some wires involved. He goes flying back, hits his head. There's a real sort of shattering moment. And that's what happened. That's what happened to him. Good theory. That's good, man. Shit, you came in hot with the What happened That's what happened to him Good theory That's good man Shit you came in hot
Starting point is 00:30:47 With the features That's very good Yeah well I really I took the lead from that That sort of goal post Simply made with his hands there At some point I was invested in that
Starting point is 00:30:55 My favourite one of those Is that he's a time traveller And he kicked his own ass Yeah That's my favourite so far And I thought of it So it's a really weird one To pick as my favorite
Starting point is 00:31:05 that's all right very like you're allowed to be proud of yourself but uh the one one thing and you may have discussed this before the one bit of credit is a pretty high chance is um and i guess you know that whole i like it wrapped up where it began you know they went to bed and that was one day and you could almost imagine them, you know, they wake up again, does the same day. This is what I forgot to finish my sentence with you before,
Starting point is 00:31:33 but Salma Hayek actually says, um, we got to get some sleep because tomorrow is a big day. Oh, that's because you were talking over that bit. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. So something important did no,
Starting point is 00:31:45 no, no, no, no no We don't know what it is But just like If that's a normal day for the Like that's not a big day Tomorrow is the big day Jesus That was just like a warm up for Monday Has there been any talk of a Grown Ups 3?
Starting point is 00:31:57 There must be if it grows that much We actually tried to get one started We tried to commission it Grown Ups 3D We're thinking about submitting a script Oh god that's good Jesus We're thinking about submitting a script. Oh God, that's good. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:32:08 We're probably running out of time, Tim. Should we just whip through our shining lights? Hold on. David would like to know the status on Grown Ups 3. It's going to happen. Guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I mean, if it made that what you want, made like 230 mil, made for 80 mil, that's a decent sort of profit. That's good for a studio. There's been talks about the script already.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Like David Spade did an AMA, I think. I think it was an AMA. So many questions here. Is David Spade still doing stand-up? I imagine he's doing stand-up in LA and stuff. I've seen some club videos of him doing his stuff. Yeah, right. He's good.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He's good. No, it's going to happen. And I mean, they ad-libbed that whole movie. So why would you submit a script? He's got to deal with Netflix. He's just going to happen. They ad-libbed that whole movie, so why would you submit a script? He's got to deal with Netflix. He's just going to whack it in there. Do we know... The editor in that film,
Starting point is 00:32:50 I picture them sitting in a little booth and just being handed a bunch of footage. You've got a couple of cameras there. Hey, we took your video camera for three months. Here's what we got. Make me a movie. This editor is probably getting paid quite well, you know, and he just slapped it.
Starting point is 00:33:09 There was that fucking fade. Yeah, the cross dissolved. Steve Buscemi laughed. And that was just like an editor just giving up and just being like, oh, Jesus. There's no transition. There's no way into this next bit. I mean, in a newsroom, we use the fade,
Starting point is 00:33:23 like the sort of fade between shots when we're pretty desperate sure and we don't use it that often but that's for a story that you may be throwing together in an hour yeah in a feature film
Starting point is 00:33:33 to do to fade out it's almost just admitting defeat it's almost worse than that because it's a cross dissolve so it's not like it goes too black which would not look good
Starting point is 00:33:43 but it just bleeds into the next scene it crosses off into what the next scene it crosses us into what the next scene is so it's like you're watching a vhs family video for a dad who's just got this new bit of kit that lets you edit vhs home videos it's got that screeching break sound effect from powerpoint exactly you would like a star white would not be out of place after it happens you'd be like yep that's the tone i think that's the one place where the editor really fell over.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I think the editor did a pretty... I'm not an editor, I can't talk about this, but I think he did a pretty good job. DOP, terrible. There was some terrible stuff in there. There was a couple of weird zooms and a cut to another shot. Editor, great.
Starting point is 00:34:17 DOP, get rid of him. Set design? I can't agree. There was no set design. I thought it was reasonably well shot. There was some pretty dodgy stuff. There was some pretty weird zooms and then cuts. We can disagree.
Starting point is 00:34:29 That's fine. Real movie vibe. That's all good. Real strong movie vibes. Suddenly the podcast gets really boring. A genuine disagreement. Oh, no. Listen, the concept is two guys watching a movie once a week for a year mate
Starting point is 00:34:45 like this is it's insane okay let's do our shining lights and get out of here I'll finish I want to go to this barbecue I don't want to be here
Starting point is 00:34:53 yeah you've missed a dinner or something remotely okay oh but thanks very much for coming David it's been a real pleasure hey David
Starting point is 00:35:00 thanks for having me on thank you I'm looking forward to the other episodes so the shining light is we just all mentioned our favorite moment from the movie today. Do you know what? Yeah, I got one.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Guy, you just looked at me like, do you remember your go on? I do. I was scrambling for help. Well, it's probably been mentioned in the real early on ones, but it was something about the fact that David was here. The jump off Suicide 35. I was like, yeah, cool. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Some stunts. Yeah, good stunts in there. For me, definitely inflatable boat going up because God, I want to try that now. I've never seen it happen. Physics were a bit messed up. The guy that was inflating the boat never got blown backwards. He always just exploded out from where he was and everyone else flew back i was very good at physics
Starting point is 00:35:49 very good that bit i've but hilarious you know hilarious you can get past the physics of it a very good bit a very very good but uh mine i think as we mentioned before but i just noticed it today and i love it uh is sherry uh the that's her name in real life sherry terry sherry terry yeah she's wearing that t-shirt penny you're pretty shiny penny uh she's wearing a t-shirt you probably noticed that david of it says it says i and it's got a picture of adam sandler and characters lenny fader lenny so it says i lenny fader lenny on a t-shirt that she's wearing. Isn't that crazy? It's quite cool. You are going fucking mental.
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's all there, mate. It's all there on cell phone. All the main ingredients are in there for a good time. We cannot, we would be remiss to finish the episode without also thanking Paul Scheer. Yeah, absolutely. For being a good man and including us in his list of 24 hours of ideal podcasting. Very, very generous a very generous very generous man and from our home here in australia uh i would i just like to say cheers and to live every moment
Starting point is 00:36:56 and love every day because before you know it your precious time slips away. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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