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And so we arrive at, not the pinnacle of this season, but certainly another watermark moment.
And I remember this. I remember the weight of pressure to do a director's commentary.
I remember the room in which we did it. It was a underneath tim's uh flat at the time on maxwell
ave in grayland auckland new zealand and uh this was this is maybe the first instance of it of us
of tim's foray into sort of production beyond audio we filmed this we were um sort of production beyond audio. We filmed this. We were sort of newscaster style,
formal wear up top, shorts down below.
From memory, there's a very short clip
on Tim's YouTube channel.
If you look up the Twio at Dercom,
if you just want a visual image
to accompany the forthcoming roughly 90 minutes
of oscillating highs and lows we had a lot of fun doing this
um kevin james riff the the whole thing i'll be completely honest i listened to this uh on a flight
from um auckland to sydney and i was not conscious for that i mean in typical me fashion
i i did not i was not awake for all of it but i was soothed and pleased by the sort of two-thirds
i was awake for so if i've if i've missed any trigger warnings, I apologize. But this is just the nature of life.
And yeah, honestly, we're hitting the accelerator now.
We're on the way home.
And this is a forebear for 5-Hour Energy,
which is one of, I will never revisit it, I don't think,
but one of my proudest creative outputs with Tim in the podcast.
So you don't need this to be any longer
than it's about to be.
I'm just excited for you.
This is a lot of fun.
This is an important moment in my life
and it's in front of you. Feel that moment, love every day
Cause before you know it, your precious time slips away
Feel that moment
Headphones on and we're in.
Alright, hello, hello, welcome, welcome one and all to this, a very special edition of the Worst Idea of All Time.
Very special.
This is the 40th time Tim and I will have watched Grown Ups 2 together.
Yes.
Which, as we've sort of, weekly I believe, we're just smashing the world record week after week.
So congratulations, Sim, on a new world record.
We're beating our own record every week.
Like that guy is going to do that dive soon.
Yeah, what's he doing he's
diving he's diving 102 meters free dive into the water he can hold his breath for seven and a half
minutes bro that's a long time you interviewed him oh yeah very briefly i took you you were like
i was real morbid you told him you might die or something well i reminded him that it's possible
because you know it is i'm gonna sort this cable out there's so many cables here guys that's what you don't understand yeah you really you've really got to see it to believe
it uh with the cable situation we are rolling film on this uh tim and i are about to do a director's
commentary they said it couldn't be done they said it couldn't be said it shouldn't be done
that's right they said it shouldn't be done but here we are and uh we are we are ready and roaring to go um so i guess i mean good luck yeah yeah so if yeah you'll hear that you'll
figure out how to sync the movie it's up to you yeah if you're gonna do that all right yeah yeah
we'll talk you through it or something but um i'm starting the blu-ray in three, two, one.
All right.
Oh, that's so loud.
We've got audio.
For us.
Let's turn that down.
Okay.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are opening to a beautiful sweeping shot of a bit of a Lady Liberty.
Columbia Pictures.
Columbia Pictures.
A Sony Pictures Entertainment Company.
And we did Sony Pictures buy Columbia?
I don't know.
No time to figure that out, Guy, because we're on to our second indent.
It's Happy Madison production.
My favourite bit of the movie coming up now.
Terrific.
That was it.
That's my favourite bit of grown-ups too, when the old man says terrific.
Shame it's so early, isn't it?
And we're greeted with a sweeping vista of a sort of small American town.
Trees are bound.
The sun is shining.
It's not for blind people.
I don't know.
I'm figuring it out.
It's a great way to start the movie, though, isn't it?
It's a lovely tone.
Welcome to standard Connecticut.
That's what it says to me.
Well, yeah.
You wouldn't know it's standard Connecticut.
It could be any town in America.
It could be any town in New Zealand.
It's like Springfield.
It's every town
you know
but they broke
that in the movie
eh
the Simpsons movie
they told you
where it was
did they
yeah it was
oh no time
to discuss that
guy because
it's our first
special appearance
it's a CGI deer
if you're starting
a movie you want
to start big
and nothing's
bigger than for
no apparent reason
a deer in the bedroom i mean that's a different
start to any day you've had i'm sure i've never woken up to a deer um you've brought this up many
times guy and i quite agree with you it's apparent early on but why is he saying open the window in
your mother's hair like it's just such confusing stuff being said by lenny fader it doesn't yeah
it's i don't understand how this is going to solve the deer problem we've actually i mean you're gonna
have to forgive us for repeating ourselves we're probably going to be leaning on a lot of memories
because i've got no idea what i've said about the movie before you know oh yeah neither do i it's
hard to separate out thoughts from words from uh okay this is big the deer is obviously pissing
on adam sandler which is a big nice sort of sort of gross-out, but PG-friendly gag.
Yeah.
Really setting a strong tone.
This is ridiculous.
You cannot ride that deer, Greg.
Yeah, the physics of the deer have really, they've always kind of fascinated me.
Because it's obviously when they're doing those shots where it's just the antlers, they're using a puppet.
But the CGI shit, it's like, can deers gallop like that?
Just bloody gallop around on a wooden floor?
Well, you'd think they'd slip around.
I mean, their hooves are used to the wild, which is a lot grippier than a...
I mean, these are pretty well-kept wooden floors.
The wild is grippier.
Yeah, the wild is grippier than a house.
Than the house.
Than a wooden floor.
It's like a metaphor, right?
Yeah, that is a metaphor.
Okay, tears can't do it.
I'm not getting a lot of the dialogue.
What?
Are you getting all the dialogue in the movie?
Just in my headphones
You are getting it or you're not?
I'm not really getting it
You're not getting any of it?
It's just real quiet
It's like it's being whispered in my ear
Oh really?
From a distance
Try fiddle with the cable, mate
See how that plays you
Do you want to whisper up headphones
Midway through, right now
Okay
Because I've got pretty good
This is a fun little technical issue
If you listen to
How about now
Oh I see what you're saying
It's different on this one
It's not as good eh
Oh yeah you've got a great audio feed
You're probably living in luxury over here
Oh that's perfect
That means the
The splitter's not working guy
Is what that is
Paid $10 for that at Dick Smith
Yeah I figured you'd at Dick Smith yeah I figured
you'd get the cheapest one
I figured it would probably be
a shambles of a situation
I didn't remember my wallet
when I went to the shop
I was just like
I had enough coins in the car
do you know what
I think we can just
wing it like this
I've seen the movie before
39 times
you comfortable with that
every now and then
we'll just swap headphones
it just adds to the
adds to it adds to it
okay back to our
regularly scheduled program
sorry about that folks
what you've missed
is
so now
Lenny Fader
waving the monkey
in front of the deer
how much did they spend
on the deer bro
I haven't looked into it
but I'd say
you'd sort of
you could have
built a few houses
with that money
or one really big house
one detail that you'll see is on the bowl for the dog food.
It just says dog.
They haven't bothered to put Bowser's name on there.
I like that.
I think it's a good sort of Easter egg.
A little treat for the regular watchers.
So silly.
So silly.
Becky Fader is a phenomenal actress.
Yes, we need to draw more attention to this.
Becky Fader is a tour de force. Yeah we need to draw more attention to this. Becky Fader is a tour de force of acting in this film.
Yeah, I mean, so just be aware of that.
Keep an eye on her throughout the film.
She's a real scene stealer,
and she plays very well against Adam Sandler's aggressive dad character.
I mean...
Look at Greg.
Oh, you missed it, but...
Greg looks stoned.
Greg looks so high in that.
Okay, now this is a baffling scene
where a mother is giving math questions to her child.
Okay, I think the angle we want to take is
why did we put this in?
We're the directors, remember?
Yeah, I know.
Let's explain what it is first.
So this was a beautiful moment where,
you know, when I was a child
as the writer of Grown Ups 2,
I was abused a lot.
Yeah?
Psychologically, emotionally,
a little bit physically as well.
And what I have always wanted is a set of parents who um just supported me you know through through thick and
thin through thick and thin good and bad i wanted uh i've always dreamed for some parents who just
love me for who i am and i never had them guy so i took it out on the movie going public of america and the world in the form of these characters the whole movie guy the movie
is a trick i've tricked you see what i've done is i've inserted a couple elements that i would like
in my own life such as incredibly an incredibly supportive mother um who happens to be kind of
weirdly hot as well because i'm a little mixed up in the head.
But what I've also done is I've put that little nugget inside of a giant wooden horse
and I've gone to the gates of cinema
and I've said, I have a gift for you.
And Sony Pictures Entertainment went,
ah, fabulous, another Sandler horse.
We love these horses.
Sandler makes the best horses.
They opened the gates.
The horse entered along with my weird sexual issues.
All of your problems.
Emotional problems.
Loaded into the horse.
With my growing up here.
You filled up a horse.
The clue is I named it grownups too.
So the horse is in.
The horse is behind the gates.
Yeah. And suddenly
Action time
Here's what happens guy
All of my ideas pop out
And they've got bows and arrows
And burning oil and lighters
And flamethrowers
And coconut bombs
What's a coconut bomb?
I don't know
But I think coconuts are the right shape
To make a bomb out of
So you hollow out the husk
And you put explosives in it.
You light it with a flax wick and you throw it into the city.
Why is this such an old style weapon?
I say, huzzah, I have tricked you with my horse.
So at this point in the movie, we're introduced to David Spade's character.
My congratulations to anyone who understood
who failed to understand I guess
that was great is what I'm saying
it was the tip of the hat to the Trojan horse as you well know
so Higgins we love
you actually identified it
very early on I just thought I'd keep going
David Spade is another shining light in the film
oh damn it
we're too late on it
there's a couple that are there one shot,
then it goes to the two shot with Brayden.
Yeah, feel free to rewind it and have a look if you want.
It's not that good.
It's not the best continuity error in the film.
I'm a bit chesty guy.
I've got a touch of bronchitis.
That is a horrible thought.
Sorry.
Yeah, that's a good gag.
That is a good gag.
That is indisputably a good gag.
Brayden holds up a picture of
See it's hard to cater for both the audience
Who are going to be just listening to this
And those who are going to be watching the film
We'll just assume that they're watching it
They're watching the film
That's how you do it
You don't listen to just the audio track
Of any director's commentary
That would be insane
I don't want to leave it up to people to have to figure that out They'll have to adjust the volume Imagine walking around listening to a director's commentary oh yeah insane i don't want to leave it up to people to have to
figure that out they'll have to like adjust the volume walking around listening to a director's
commentary but very well someone could be doing that right now which must be confusing you're
you're crazier than us wow yeah okay i'll tell you what we do have on hand though if you're just
checking out the audio is 12 delicious christmas mince pies we're bringing in the yuletide season oh yeah
there's well it's late november i try not to celebrate christmas until early december as a
general rule oh they're very dry aren't they i bet you're finding that i tried eating those yesterday
they're really dry okay so here's the beginning of some serious relationship problems and we put
these into the movie uh just so there'd be some form of conflict i mean every movie needs conflict and and we're
finding ours i mean it's a very rushed time to sell my hike to bring this conversation topic up
she's on the way she's on the way to work in the car and she goes hey adam by the way i'm
thinking about starting i think we should have another kid just drop that bombshell and leave
although um to be fair that kind of mirrors the way
in which that dialogue was thought of
because we said to Salma Hayek,
the studio executives come back to us
and he needs a romantic storyline and a bit of drama.
We're rolling in 30 seconds.
Can you grab this ball and run with it?
Can you do this, Salma Hayek?
She said yes.
She did a wonderful job.
Yeah, yeah.
They had a very similar casting process to Curb Your Enthusiasm
where they'd come in and do sort of improvised scenes
around the characters.
They're very heavily and well-developed characters.
But this time, they were shooting the entire time
on Panavisions.
Yeah.
And we had our full lighting and mic sound set up.
That's right.
The whole time they were improving.
Salma was just great on set.
I mean, she really got along well with the kids. Fun fact about grown-ups too sorry to interrupt you there guy uh we used
literally everything we shot there isn't a second on the cutting room yeah it's true we could not
we we could not have shot any less footage and got away with it what what luck we barely got
away with this is a masturbating joke. And Tim actually wrote this in.
I didn't notice it until we were on set.
And then I said, oh, Tim, you sly dog.
You put a masturbating joke in the movie.
And what did you say?
I said, yeah, I put it in a tiny wooden horse named Becky Fader.
And what I did is I took the horse up to the gates of the writer's room.
And I said, look what I have for you, gents.
A horse.
Really hitting that horse angle
hard.
And here's a great, I mean I've tried this in real life
I try this every day on
women and men.
Lenny Fader's three step program for getting checks.
It's not actually gender specific
you can try this on men.
You make them laugh or transgender
make them smile
tell them they have a nice smile
ask them out that night
yeah you gotta
the important key there
is force them to go out
with you
that night
before they have time
to realise you're fugly
such a weird thing
and fugly's
that was definitely
a swear word horse
that we took up
to the writers room
oh yeah
you better believe it
what I did, guy.
No. Do it.
No.
Okay, so. Okay, so Becky really
wants her doll. Her doll?
Yeah. Oh, Mr. Gigglesworth.
And Sam was like, yeah, you got it.
And then just doesn't think about it at all.
Holy shit, I never thought of that. He does.
He was like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get that
fixed. And then just leaves it in a box in the house.
If I was a dad and I was lucky enough to have a gorgeous daughter like Becky,
who's very sweet and seems like very smart and caring,
I'd make that a top priority, man.
Yeah.
That'd be the top of my agenda, not stealing a school bus and going to Kmart.
I'm sorry to stop you here, Tim,
but as Riley pointed out this week on Twitter to one of us,
or both of us,
this is a particularly absurd scene.
I mean, this is like the equivalent of a second dare in the bedroom.
This is like...
What?
This conversation's going nowhere.
We need to introduce something to fucking spice things up on screen.
Yeah.
And so what do you want?
You want a bus.
You want a bus driven by Nick Swartzen, essentially,
who's got some real sexuality
issues at the moment and also he's got a real drug tagging problem the sexuality angle that um
neither of us added that in that was our third co-writer uh got it to be honest it really it
was a bit of a curveball for me and guy we were sort of like was this the tone is this the movie
we want to be making is the question we keep i mean i think the best thing Is this the movie we want to be making? That's the question we keep asking. I mean, I think the best thing
about the writing process for me,
Tim, was that we just,
I mean, at some point we just said, look, fuck it.
Every idea, we'll just put it in. We'll just
throw it at a page.
We'll figure it out. Yeah. And I
think that really came out on set. I mean,
the performers were just, they were right into it.
Except Chris Rock.
You didn't like working with Chris. Chris didn't like working Rock was the latest. You didn't like working with Chris.
Chris didn't like working with me.
Yeah, Chris didn't like working with you.
Well, I mean, you kept pulling those silly pranks in his trailer.
Yeah, I know.
He hated that.
Yeah.
And you kept doing it.
I was trying to lighten the mood.
Yeah, by filling his trailer with bullfrogs.
I thought it would be a funny day.
You know he's afraid of bullfrogs.
That's what makes it funny.
That's not funny.
That's scary.
It's really funny.
5,000 bullfrogs
piled on top of each other
spilling out the windows
and the walls
Anyone would be freaked out
If I've said this once
I've said it a thousand times
I apologise
I misread the situation
but there's no reason
to take it out
on the movie itself
You haven't apologised to Chris
Chris doesn't want to hear from me man
Chris doesn't want to hear from me
Anyway He did become a little icy to work with after that incident.
And it's a shame that that happened on the first day.
He really switched off.
Yeah, he really did check out after that.
That's what I'm saying.
Be a professional, Chris.
I'm sorry you don't have your TV show anymore.
I'm sorry.
I didn't do that.
No, you didn't.
I did do that.
You did that too.
Very mean-spirited prank.
His TV show's still going, isn't it?
Anyway.
Everybody hates Chris.
He was a delight to work with, a real joy.
I mean, here, the extras,
we pretty much just went around driving that bus,
and whoever hopped in, we just filmed after that.
So we just took a school bus out for a ride
through Stanton, Connecticut, picked them up,
we jumped out, Adam and Chris hopped in, and they just unproved that whole scene a ride through Stanton, Connecticut, picked them up. We jumped out. Adam and Chris hopped in.
They just unproved that whole scene.
Real pros.
Bing, bang, booyah.
I've never got that joke.
Who's he talking about?
Who?
White Precious.
Precious is a movie.
I haven't watched it.
Wow.
But it's a Hollywood movie and Precious was a character in it.
After 40 times, that's the only reference I think that I never bothered to ask about or research.
There you go.
I still haven't really dug into it deeper than what I just gave you.
They really bully this kid.
I mean, if you're a parent, or I don't know how old this guy is,
but I'm assuming his parents had to sign off on the script.
This kid is getting laid out.
Those are some pretty full-on bullies.
Oh, yeah.
Bullying, like beanbag with arms and legs.
So this is a real actor we had to get.
He's a human being, as Sherry Terry says.
I'm a person.
You know what's amazing, bro?
With this headphone splitter,
I'm only getting the background music.
Yeah, I know.
It's fucking awesome.
That one's real different, eh?
You really traded down, brother.
Nah, well, I find it easier to comment on the movie like this.
You've got the audio experience we've had for the last bloody 39.
This is just score.
The original score.
You like that?
So good.
You like walking around listening to movie scores, don't you?
Yeah, big time.
Hans Zimmer is my boy.
What's your favorite movie score to walk around listening to?
Probably Daft Punk's Tron.
I can see you walking around to that
i haven't heard that either it's real good sherry terry's on set now wasn't she a delight to work
with guy yeah sherry terry's a real firecracker everyone yeah like she jesus she didn't really
have to dig uh too deep or like This character was very familiar for her.
This is very similar to Sherry.
An insane sexual being.
We have never had so many harassment suits as the four days Sherry Terry was on set.
It was insane.
Really quite full on.
Jesus Christ.
I cannot implore you enough to not work with her.
If the opportunity or situation ever arises,
Sherry Terry, she will rip your fucking pants off on your table.
I liked Sherry.
It's because you're a miscreant.
I thought she was a real pro, real professional.
Just came in, got the job done.
All scored.
Shame we can only give a four to her.
Good.
This is Kevin James' brother.
Now, Kevin just brought him along one day.
We didn't write this character in.
Kevin just brought him along and said,
hey, guys, I've got a funny sketch I want to do with my brother.
Yeah.
I'm glad he did, too.
Principal Taddeo turned into one of my favourite characters
which didn't really pop off the script
when we originally wrote
wrote the movie
studio still thinks that too
did you know that?
you are winking on camera
they can see you winking
my bad
Principal Tadio is just so great
he looks probably more like
anyone else in this movie just like a cartoon looked he looks uh probably more like anyone else in
this movie just like a cartoon character he's like a 3d cartoon he is cartoon isn't he right
through just the look you've always one thing that we we couldn't quite figure out with the
was how we could get a shot of principal tardio walking towards the bus so we could see those
blue footprints yeah we had real we had real trouble with that didn't we so eventually we
just had to head on and lose the gag yeah Yeah, which if you look carefully is still there.
You can still see all the blue footprints.
And that took a whole day of shooting to get right
out of the seven days that we shot for.
So it was a real pain in the ass that we couldn't get the shot.
That's right.
Now, for this next scene,
we'd like you to know that we we we used real uh stunt people
uh to play nick swartzen's character so are you gonna say in the bus he's hanging from the roof
now we got i mean we heard about we don't want to comment on uh kevin james's mother and we don't
really talk about what went down eh she was the agreement that was the arrangement. We do not discuss.
Yeah, so we had 15 people on set for that very, very gag that you just saw there.
And we still killed a guy.
Yeah, well, we lost 13 of them.
It was bad news.
We went to Sony and we said, look, we've got 13 corpses on set and the blood's on your hands.
And they were not happy.
They were really, yeah, angry is a good word for it and disappointed.
I rate.
I thought sort of actually somewhat unprofessionally so.
I mean, we had to get that shot.
That is an integral part of the film.
That was the first gag we wrote.
That was the first part of the script we wrote.
That was actually the movie, really. That's the gem of the movie. That is the seed of the film we that was the first gag we wrote that was the first part of the script we wrote that was actually the like that's the movie really that's the gem of the movie that is
the seed of the movie uh what i find weird though is that the studio are fine with us talking about
the 13 stuntmen we killed but they we had to sign the thing about kevin james's mother
well even now i'm afraid to talk about it uh how weird is that though it's yeah oh ladies and
gentlemen gordon i mean gordon love it yeah well it's his twin brother we couldn't actually get
john and the credits it says john but this is gordon he's a he's a lesser known love it's um
but he's a hell of a guy isn't he he's still a love it's as we said yeah he's not joe he's not
he's not john love it's but he's a Lovitz. I love me some Lovitz.
You'll see here.
I'm loving it.
Adam Sandler's wife.
That's good.
I'm loving it.
Okay, we might be on point to get our first continuity error,
and it's a really tiny one.
There's so many, and Guy and I do know them all.
You go for it.
Okay, you've got to look in the mirror at Mayor Rudolph,
and it's – oh, no, it's not for a little bit. I think it's when Kyle comes in, actually. Yeah, it is. no it's not for a little bit
I think it's when Kyle comes in actually
yeah it is
okay
you give for a while
no Kyle's about to come in isn't he
not quite yet
and slap your butts
let's just enjoy John Lovitz for a second
because this is the best
I still feel bad
that is the single best delivered line
in the movie
I challenge anyone to disagree with me
now when we wrote this part
we just thought the movie was
lacking in sort of really um outright misogyny or like alluding to the fact that we find women
somewhat subservient yeah we thought that'd be funny so we thought that would be funny so we
put that in the movie yeah yeah that's how the writing process that's how the writing process works for us.
Oh, man.
Oh, we missed continuity error too.
Kid Dynamite is what we named that little boy.
I've forgotten his real human name,
but on set we just called him Kid Dynamite.
Okay, so Maya Rudolph's character is who you're going to be wanting to look at
for your first continuity error
that I have been on point enough to get.
She's got her arms folded in one shot,
and then it snaps back to her frontal,
and she's got hands on hips.
So it's still got a couple lines to go.
I really like the delivery for Adam Sandler's wife on that one, by the way.
Are you married?
It's good.
Sweet.
It's sweet.
Sweet.
Toot.
Sweet.
Toot.
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, look at that extra in theot. Okay, okay. Okay, here we go.
Oh, look at that extra in the background
as a center of frame.
Just, we told her so many times to stop moving,
she would not pay attention.
She had a real beer in her bonnet, that one.
Okay.
I'm looking for this continuity area.
Have we got it?
I know, it's occupied so much time,
but where is it?
Oh, okay, here.
Hands on hips.
Boom.
Boom, yes. Nailed it. Continuity number one. Yes. It's in the can. occupied so much time but where is it oh okay here hands on hips boom boom yes nailed it
continuity number one yes i got massive pins and needles in my left leg oh dear that feels crazy
no no it's all right it's just real ticklish uh do you want a christmas pie
oh whoa okay do you want kmart fuck i gotta say all right we're gonna talk about this came out
were absolutely wonderful to work with. They were real pros.
I'll just say this real quickly.
In the audio from the $10 headphone splitter you've got,
all I could hear was like the laughter they had taped.
Like the canned laughter they had added.
It's quite a surreal, freaky experience.
What the fuck is going on here?
This is tapping into some production shit.
That's like the movies being whispered at you from like 100 meters away.
It's audio tracks that you can't... you from like 100 meters away it's audio tracks
that you can't it's weird man it's fucking weird like people can't understand that right now so
we'll just tell them about working with tim meadows now tim meadows is a real pro oh yeah
kmart um yeah so tim meadows came with kmart what happened is kmartmart paid us a substantial amount of money.
Let's just say my boat isn't named Lady Kmart for nothing.
That's right.
We went into the meeting with Kmart thinking we could maybe get $500 million,
10 times 50, $500 million out of them.
I've got to keep checking that timer, mate,
because it'll run out at some point.
We'll be able to see,
because the camera will go down.
Can you read the number from there?
No, but the camera will just die
when we need to reset it.
No, no, no.
And it's not an interesting...
We've got to stick to the movie.
So, there we were,
with our hands outstretched.
Hats in our hands, saying,
look, we'll take $500 million.
And Kmart said, they bellowed a deep laugh and they said,
we'll give you $5 billion and call it a day.
Yeah.
So we spent three of the seven days just shooting inside the Kmart
and the Kmart car park.
One of the stipulations was when they gave us the $5 billion
was that we had to include Tim Meadows in, which I was fine with.
I didn't have an issue with it.
I thought it was weird.
I wanted to work with Tim anyway.
I thought it was fucking weird.
Yeah.
I don't know what the relationship
between Tim Meadows and Kmart is,
but they are in bed together
in a very confusing way.
Things got a little muddy with his character too.
I think Tim is contractually obliged
to sleep in a Kmart every night.
His whole family has to sleep.
I mean, I do not know the details
between these two parties,
but Tim and his whole family,
they're living out of Kmarts.
They tour the Kmarts around America.
That's what I'd heard as well.
Yeah, they just exist a Kmart lifestyle.
I think that's the tagline.
Live the brand.
Live the Kmart brand.
Yeah, well, because he does...
Remember, he's got...
We had to put the makeup over his neck,
but he's got live the brand
written in Kmart-style letters across his neck.
Yeah.
Which is pretty terrifying.
I can only imagine how much money they gave to Muto's.
But one of the situations that came up,
which compromised our integrity just a squash,
was that the CEO of Kmart insisted on inserting his own catchphrase onto Tim Meadows' character, which is how we got the recurring what.
He's very curious, the owner of Kmart, isn't he?
He's an odd dude.
He wonders about everything, but he's got a very short attention span.
He was a roid freak.
He got bagsits on his bagsits.
Besides...
What the fuck am I hearing now?
The exercise machine. No.
Where?
So Tim and I are trying to learn
the whole film by rote.
Okay, see these two exes in the background
walking through? Watch this.
They're about to do it again. Red top,
blue top. Oh my god.
It's deja vu all over again.
They fucked that up, didn didn't they that's what we
in the matrix call a glitch that's right in the matrix what were you saying before i genuinely
do not remember it was a very exciting point though i like this t-shirt he bought this t-shirt
himself robidoux um i mean i tried to buy it off my own a hundred thousand dollars he said he's
just no way it's his favourite t-shirt
I'm hearing music
playing under the whole scene
are you getting any music?
no I'm not getting music
should we swap back?
I'm so confused
I want to hear what you
I want to see what you're talking about
come live in my world
guy
now this guy can't remember his name but
fuck he's good that's what i would say about oh wow i mean you're not listening to anything in
these no just pay really close attention though and you it's quite a treat
it's just now this is something i've always wondered about because in my experience everyone
always says pop a squat but he says Copper Squat.
That was an ad-lib.
But which way is correct?
Well, we wrote Popper Squat.
Yeah, but is that correct?
Yeah.
Oh, the movie sounds weird now, now that it's sounded properly.
I've just got silence.
But dude, wait, because weird production music comes in real quietly
and bits there.
We've never heard it before
This will change you
As a man
Right on
Now Brayden's tattoos
That was
That was actor's choice again
Brayden loves to doodle
He loves to doodle
That was the original name
Of this film as well
Grown Ups 2
Actor's choice
That was
Oh now I've got
Some good gym noises
Do we want to go into
why we hate Donna
slash
I loved working with Donna
damn it
I knew you were going to
leave me in the boat alone
I knew you wouldn't
help me out on this one
Donna was a real pro
she was a real veteran
I hate Donna
love this guy though
we called this guy
Kid Dynamite
on set
forget his real name
but he was just
consistently nailing it we called him Kid Dynamite which got confusing when we were working with the guy Kid Dynamite on set. Forget his real name, but he was just consistently nailing it.
We called him Kid Dynamite.
Which got confusing when we were working with the two Kid Dynamites.
What?
Well, because, you know, there was the baby as well who bites John Lovett's leg was also Kid Dynamite.
What are you talking about?
Bumpty.
Yeah.
Kid Dynamite.
Those are two different actors
They're not
Same character mate
That was the same person
It's the same character
It was the same person on set
No it's the same character
In the movie
Oh shit
We just missed the best
Line in the movie
This is what happened
They cut the gag there
After that buttocks shot
That would actually be
A really funny
Stand alone gag
But this cut away
I think we really Dropped the ball on that one what it proves is that uh we did obviously we're comedy
geniuses but no one else involved with the production of this movie understand like they
would trip over jokes not know it that'd be quite funny but then they'd overcook it in the oven
that's right fuck out and leave the turkey in too long oh yeah oh Time to burning the turkey. Time to do something.
Time to do something.
Tim's just going to change your battery on a camera or something like that.
Shooting at Kmart again.
Obviously, we wanted to get the word Kmart in as much as we could.
Now, Kevin James, he did this as an offer, the Burp Snart.
And I've got to tell you, on set when he was recording it,
I mean, there was no
audio effects on it so it was literally just kevin james writhing his body uh and and what
looked like a really uncomfortable sort of fashion and uh i gotta say post really saved us on that
one because we were kevin really sold us down the river with that gag the burp snart is not
was not a good it's not a good visual gag's annoying, and you won't know this
if you don't work in the film industry,
is that usually the process is you write a script
and then you give it to the actors
and the actors deliver the script.
What Kevin James does on every take
is we'll insert one offer of his own,
which isn't really an offer when we're rolling.
It's just him inserting something into the movie.
He knows we've got to use it then.
It's not an ad-libbed offer.
What it is is Kevin James has something he calls his ideas book,
and it's a children's coloring book.
I forgot about the ideas.
It's quite terrifying to read.
It's just sort of scratchings with pen and crayon,
and he comes in and he's got his ideas book folded up in his back right pocket
and we're shooting.
And then Kevin James goes, hey, I got an idea.
And he'll just open the book and at random just turn to a page and point at it.
And then he'll insert that.
Not a great artist, Kevin James, either.
I'll tell you that.
A lot of crudely drawn cock and balls in that ideas book.
Yeah, I mean, I would not like to spend one day inside that brain.
Hey, fun fact about this stunt, Nick Swartzen did the whole thing.
See?
Yeah, he's a real athlete, Nick.
He actually had to run off set every day at 3pm for his ninja training.
It was so limiting to shoot.
Yeah, I think...
Oh, God, it was a pain in the ass.
So much to talk about.
I would like to talk about the budget for this particular scene
because this is when we put 600 extras in it to go home.
And our DOP, he said, we don't need them all.
We can cheat this.
I could probably do it with 30, maybe like 35 people.
I can make it look like 600.
I mean, we've got, between between us we've got a lot of family
we both come from big families i've got 72 brothers and sisters yeah my jewish side and
my catholic side both sides both big both big uh and we said look we got a lot of mouths to feed
a lot of jewish catholic mouths and and just all all matter of mouths my yent is relying on me
and so is my pappy and so what we did is we we hired sort of in a mafia style move
i believe that the executives called it we hired all of our family and paid them a phenomenally
generous rate uh we we gave each of these extras five hundred thousand dollars to come along for a
two-hour shoot we just put the the uh the ballet on once and filmed and uh so they essentially got
paid a hundred thousand dollars they should just sit through a ballet recital it's a pretty good day's work i'm really pleased
we did that fun fact about the movie excuse me we had more accountants working on our paperwork
uh than the u.s uh tax department employees irs is less people than what we had on the
we actually hired uh a littleknown firm called Latin Accountants.
And what the Latin Accountants do, which is quite good, is they take your regular,
easy-to-read English accounts, and they translate that into traditional Latin.
And then, I mean, you take that to the tax department, and you watch them wriggle.
I tell you what.
It's brilliant.
Oh, here's another great delivery from Lovitz.
You sure are, John Lovitz, and so are we.
Or Gordon.
Can't remember who we used in that one.
I'm now hitting the sweet as crazy production music sort of.
It's just the production music and sound effects are up real high
and everything else is down low.
What the fuck is your split?
2012.
There's a continuity error for
you uh this is called the 2012 journalist's dance title but we know the movie's set in 2013 because
of chris rock's watch uh in a later scene so that was embarrassing for us and as we said earlier
becky's acting here is uh really strong that was embarrassing for us guy someone should have either considered the brief flash on camera of chris rock's watch
or the sign which is on screen literally for a few frames well we but it's less and we shot the
scenes consecutively which is what makes it doubly embarrassing and we had 50 people 50 other family
members working on continuity not one of them picked up on it but i tell you what they earned
a pretty pretty pretty penny uh we gave each of them $500,000 for two days' work, which is a pretty good rate.
So I'm really pleased we did that.
I'm really proud of that.
I just decided to round up to a cool half-mail for most people who worked on the movie.
Stone Cold, it was a real joy to work with.
This guy's a real pro.
Stone Cold was a delight to work with.
One of the most professional men I've ever worked with in my life
And a gentle giant
A real gentle giant, that's right
And I'd also quickly, as I started the point earlier
Becky Fader here
Look at this acting
I mean, I can't
I'm so proud of her
And the way she performed
Particularly because Sony Entertainment Pictures
Made Becky
By which I mean They are the first studio constructed test tube baby
Constructed solely for acting
So we're glad that it panned out
Because there was quite a lot of R&D money sunk into that
She's a real pioneer
I suppose actually Sony are the pioneers
And they work with Pioneer on the audio
She's a real pioneer, Becky Sony are the pioneers and they work with Pioneer on the audio.
She's a real pioneer, Becky.
In this scene,
we decided,
wouldn't it be fun if we went to a different state
for a day?
Yeah.
We shot this in Alaska
in the middle of winter.
Yeah.
We had to spend so much time
lighting this scene.
And just shoveling snow.
We shot this, we had a one
week turnaround we shot this in a full blonde blizzard uh it was literally whitewashed the
whole thing um probably my favorite production note from this movie is that though because we
did shoot the scene in alaska we didn't have to turn those freezers on for the ice cream it just
stayed naturally that's right at a great uh two degrees centigrade that was actually really
frustrating uh on account that in the movie,
the ice cream machine had to be broken.
And so having a functioning ice cream machine was useless.
But I'm really proud of the poo gag we did put in here.
Now, who you can see in the background there is Tanya Aitken.
Tanya was a joy to work with.
She was a real pro.
Yeah, absolutely.
She's actually doing, I believe she's a yoga instructor now uh hot yoga bikram bikram yeah
hot yoga and uh in los angeles california yeah uh i mean it's a great studio we'll get the details
here at a later time but uh i'll tell you what after tell them tell them we sent you yeah we
sent you uh but after after a yoga workout, sometimes I'll nip down to Gold's down on Venice,
which is just a fantastic facility.
I work out with some friends.
Do you know what I like to do if I'm on Venice Beach and I've just hit Gold's
and maybe checked out a little of Tanya's?
Hot yoga.
What do you like to do, Tim?
Grab myself a slice of Blaze Pizza.
Oh, yes, please.
Blaze Pizza.
Are we, well, we... I say we.
I'm not actually involved.
It's not like I'm a stakeholder or anything.
Are we at Blaze...
I've done it again.
Down at Blaze Pizza, we use...
What they use are artisanal...
Artisanal.
I can't be an artist.
You fucking wrote it, bro.
I didn't write it.
Artisanal ingredients.
And we flash fry or
we we flash bake those pieces in 90 seconds i mean you're gonna get that pizza you're gonna
be in and out uh and in time maybe to hit it on your second i'm eating at a place again
with someone so intimately involved in the cooking process know so little about it
i don't work i don't work at blaze piece i'm not a stakeholder in Blaze Pizza One thing I never noticed about
Nancy Arbuckle before
Quite a forroad eh
I haven't really looked at it
Check it out bro
It's there
There was another cartoon of Channel Mountain from Kevin James' brother
Really good stuff from him
This is about the time
In the movie when I get incredibly down on myself
yeah i mean the movie does drag because you think school's just finished and for us we know that uh
that the football scene you're gonna muffle yourself i'm playing with my mustache sorry
uh we know that the football scene is the halfway point in the movie and you think
school's finished you go straight to football practice. No. But somehow there's sort of three to five hours of a day
that we just filled in here for no apparent reason.
We had to turn a phrase on set where we call it grown-ups time.
When you're watching the monitors for playback,
so you're watching any cuts that the editors would send through
of our grabs for the day,
like a one-minute clip would feel like about an hour of your life,
and we called it grown-ups i've
heard it's very similar to hallucinogenic drugs uh people who've done that will say they've
experienced that the idea that time doesn't exist time is a construct around them and that's what it
feels like when we were watching the rushes on set yeah i mean it's it was terrifying we were in a
time warp yeah and all we had to um be an objective measure of where we were on the time continuum
was Chris Rock's watch, which perpetually showed last day of summer.
First day of summer, 2013.
I can't remember what it was.
Something of June.
That was our anchor point, similar to those objects in Inception.
Chris Nolan taught us so much about movie making,
and you can really see it on display in this film.
We really respect Chris.
These productions, I mean...
I can't remember.
Was that a stuntman?
Did we get a stunty to do that, or was that Brayden?
No, we got Brayden.
He didn't like us calling him Brayden on set, by the way.
He's a real actor with a name, but we never learned it.
We used to call him Kid Dynamite on set.
Yeah, yeah.
Just because he was so talented. Yeah, we we did he was a real pro to work with kid dynamite
so um i don't really know what to say about the scene i don't think either of us were on set this
day i think we actually took this is in the middle we took a couple of week-long holidays
week-long breaks yeah uh and i think this is some of the stuff that...
You should try and get a closer look at the movie.
Really get into the story there, guy.
This is some of the stuff that they shot.
Get in there, and you really get a new perspective on it.
We were on holiday at this point,
and we didn't realise that they were going to construct a soundstage
instead of just finding a location for this.
That's 50,000 gallons of water,
which we did not need to pay for
or deal with as a studio
we should have shot on location
is what I'm trying to say
possibly worth it for that though
yeah I was really getting in there
that summertime shot
that's one thing that they got right
when we weren't there
yeah
that's a favourite of mine
we built the soundstage
just so we could get the audio crisp
on that line
and to be fair they $4 million well spent.
So just as an aside,
we're setting a reasonably confusing tone on this podcast
with regards to fluctuating between when we were on set
and when we weren't on set.
So just bear with us.
Because it's difficult for us to remember.
We're figuring it out too, just like you are. We were using a lot of ketamine on set so it just just bear with us because i mean it's difficult for us to remember we were using a lot of ketamine on set so obviously that that really muddied the water
so to speak now if you want time distortion get yourself a little special k ketamine or
horse tranquilizers that's more commonly known that'll really fuck with your chris watch internal
watch uh taylor now taylor was a real joy to work with he was a real pro
uh but i'd like to speak briefly at the moment if i could to uh to working with patty schwarzenegger
now this guy should we indulge this guy is a hold on before you go into that should we indulge
because there was a little theme song we made up on set that we'd like that's right now yeah and i
don't know why this did never take off um but it went something like this
party time it's patrick schwartz party time it's party time with patty schwartz
he's riding a motorbike holding a a bazooka. It's Paddy Schwartz. Party time.
And now we're stating, Molly fucking Cyrus.
It's Paddy Schwartz.
Party time.
Just sorry, I broke in the middle of that song there
because I'm so excited to share this.
That's a real thing.
First down set, Paddy showed up literally holding a bazooka on a motorbike
and we said, Paddy, you've got to get that thing out of here.
This is a film set.
He didn't get it no he didn't
he was
he became
pretty upset
he didn't get it at all
he didn't get what
he didn't actually get
what a movie set was
truth be told
yeah
had a lot of trouble
explaining to Paddy
um
or I mean
the process of
um
what an actor is
and like
yeah essentially but you did you really took the ball around with that on teaching him Paddy, the process of what an actor is.
Yeah.
Essentially.
But you really took the ball around with that on teaching him, and I really owe you one for that,
because you did a lot of extra shifts.
I looked after a lot of younger kids.
One-on-one sessions.
Paddy, actually.
Prior job, and you've got to teach them
the difference between real life and make-believe.
It didn't occur to me that Arnold Schwarzenegger's
20-year-old son didn't understand the distinction.
I'm talking about when we were shooting
of course sorry
now it's a funny story actually
about how we hired Paddy
we were actually working out
doing our morning workout at Gold's
and then we saw him
we loved him
we talked to the instructor
how do we get that kid
to do
he said that kid
that kid
we call that kid Dynamite
he said that kid Dynamite
no no no
he said we call that kid Dynamite which was said, that is kid Dynamite. No, no, no. He said, we call that kid Dynamite,
which was so confusing because he insisted on us calling him Dynamite.
We're two kid Dynamites.
Three kid Dynamites.
Dynamites are getting Braden.
But what he said pretty much is,
if you go down the road to a place called Blaze Pizza
and pick up a couple of those really quickly pan-fried pizzas that use,
not pan-fried, baked. Hot-baked pizzas.
Flash-baked.
And once again, you made up the process.
I have no faith in it.
I've got absolutely no involvement with Blaze Pizza.
Obviously, I'm not a stakeholder.
But he said, you get seven of those pizzas,
come down here and just sort of lay a trail,
Hansel and Gretel style, to the movie set.
Do you think we were right to hire taylor lautner for this character
yes i want to take a moment to talk about adam sandler's wardrobe not just in this film
but for the last 15 years whether he's been on camera or off say what you will about adam
sandler but he is comfortable maximum comfort
all the time i actually got a link sent to to me recently uh of a tumblr account which was like
i think it's called die adam sandler and then a bunch of eights and then a nine.tumblr.com
and uh a lot of the commentary was why the fuck are you always wearing a shirt that's too fucking big for you?
And it had a bit of a camera roll.
They've got a point.
I always wear shirts that are too big for me.
I respect Adam for that.
It was one of the decisions he made on set,
which I respected.
I actually look frumpy and like a piece of shit.
You visited a lot of those weird Tumblr sites
when we were on set,
and Adam was pretty upset by that.
What was I going to do, direct these guys?
No.
Probably not.
Yes.
Fun fact about this bit of the movie,
it only exists because we didn't have a trailer when we finished the movie,
so we went back, made the soundstage, and shot the scene.
The studio didn't like the original trailer.
Yeah.
Had to scrap it.
Jared Sandler was a real pro to work with.
He was a real good guy.
Was he?
My memory's a little hazy of Jared Sandler.
Because I was on holiday when this was shot.
That's right.
Oh, now this was a fun day.
We've been told. Yeah. this was shot that's right oh now this was this was a fun day um what we didn't solve what yeah we got let me just check out the movie a little closer we got um david spade's head quite literally
inside kevin james this was one of this was probably one of the more fun uh things from
kevin james idea book is he said david spade's head inside my colon and we said kevin you're gonna have to
sell that david yourself because i'm not having that conversation uh and dave it was a real sport
he was up for it and we actually i mean what a lot of people don't know is we actually got
david spade's head inside kevin james colon on that shot sure did sure did bradden higgins this
was one of the shots
That made it from the original round
Which we actually forgot to take out
Where he was a warlock
He wrote that in the script
He was a warlock
What was the inspiration for that?
I'd been watching a lot of Charmed at the time
You're a big Charmed fan
I was drawn in by the theme song
And I was held by those three
Lovely sisters And the whole idea that If you get three people together I was drawn in by the theme song, and I was held by those three lovely sisters.
And the whole idea that if you get three people together, they're very powerful,
that's always appealed to me.
First time we see the van in shot, I had to pay a lot of money.
A lot of money for that van.
You'll see it again here in the garage.
Now, fun fact about this
we named the garage
El Dorado Tyres
after the movie
The Road to El Dorado
that's right
which David Spade
voices the lead in
and now Kevin James
this wasn't an
analyzed tears book
this is just a
personality quirk
an idiosyncrasy
if you will
he has three
five hour energies every minute
uh which can't be good for you i don't know what is in that stuff but he he's putting those back
uh like like sort of mints breath mints or something and in the full disclosure of everything
i mean this was the most obtuse product placement we really didn't uh stitch this thread up did we
no it was it was the hem was loose on
that one you can say much so it was bare for all to see i mean do you think that because we've given
him five hour energy that that is a storyline that will go somewhere and we really we didn't
we didn't pursue that thread and we're guilty of that on a lot of the threads the movie i mean i've
heard they say don't read your reviews but um i did i had a look at
some of them and uh people did not hold back uh and and what they said about us and and the film
they were scathing um i mean did you did you dabble in in reading any of those well the one that sticks out in my mind uh was i feel like david spade with his
head and kevin james's colon that's right after seeing grown-ups too which fucking hurt
great line that was great line there by uh big dynamite
shack really shows off some dancing and acting chops in this scene not everyone knows that
shack can move they know he can move around a court obviously but uh phenomenal dancer put the man on the
ballroom floor there was um a couple of times when we were just setting up lights and stuff
and we were sort of waiting around on set uh shack brought his own little bluetooth speaker in and
he taught us all how to box waltz which was a. And it was just one of those times in my life where I was like, holy shit, I'm waltzing with Shaquille O'Neal right now.
I never thought it could be this good.
Yeah.
Well, it's not something you expect, is it?
CG was a little off, but we didn't have time to correct this.
Shaq thought it would be funny if we used his dick to stop the tyre.
That tyre had him screwing the crotch.
We needed it to be a little bigger
we wanted an exclamation mark
on the punchline
what you'll notice there
if you rewind the film
thus getting out of sync
with the director's commentary
is Shaq
and Peter Dante
were holding hands
there in that shot
that was Peter Dante's ad lib
and god bless him for it
yeah Peter Dante
was a joy to work with
he was a real pro
real dynamite if I could pick one word to describe his performance to Dante Zadlib and God bless him for it. Yeah, Peter Dante was a joy to work with. He was a real pro.
Real dynamite.
Yeah.
If I could pick one word to describe his performance.
His performance was dynamite.
He was electric.
He was like electric dynamite.
We called him electric dynamite
on set actually.
Look at these extras.
Having a lot of fun.
It was a lot of fun on set.
That's what I remember
a lot of laughs.
A lot of love.
It was a good week.
A lot of hugs.
Good seven days.
Yeah.
And we trashed a real frat house.
We didn't tell them either.
Boy, were they pursed.
That's right.
They actually arrived back when we were shooting this scene back with the extras.
And I mean, we just hightailed it.
We dropped the cameras and left.
And a few of the boys actually picked up a few scrapes.
We lost a few bodies actually there.
We had to digitally take it.
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Yeah, a couple of guys,
their faces became so mangled
we couldn't shoot with them the second half of the movie.
So we digitally removed...
We got the deer guy to do that from memory, actually.
We said, bro, while you're here,
would you mind just deleting a couple characters for us?
On account of their faces have been horribly mangled
by the frat boys whose fraternity house we've just destroyed.
He said, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I said, those two.
He said, here's my invoice.
I said, fine.
Yeah.
I mean, that was your brother.
So we actually gave him, he got a pretty good paycheck for that.
He did well.
This is the halfway point in the movie, if you are curious.
I mean, I'm imagining some of you actually watching this film right now.
Well done.
You've made it halfway through.
Congratulations to you.
This is a bit where Guy and I like to give ourselves a pat on the back each week.
Yeah.
Good job, friend.
There we go.
Now we just have to watch the second half of the movie, which I'm really excited for.
It has been fun just talking right right through it
eh now it's like we i mean we can break here to talk about the experience of watching the movie
for the 40th time that's i'm not gonna here's what's up now uh that was goyle from harry potter
this is um not a lot of people actually very few people know this outside of the writer's room but
we got becky to come in to shoot these.
You'll notice that they're never in the same shot.
Sorry, Donna, to come back in.
We shot that very much separately.
This part with Keithy and Lenny was actually a different movie.
Yes.
That never quite made it to release.
No, and we said, are you going to use that footage?
We said, are you going to eat that?
And they said, no.
We're not hungry is what they said.
They kept going with the metaphor, and we said, well, we'll gobble it up.
We scoffed it.
We said we'll gobble it up, and then we scoffed it.
A lot of reviewers noticed that the tone really changes in this scene.
Starts to take quite a dynamic and enjoyable storyline with some stakes.
Yeah, yeah. There's a quest, there's a journey that's storyline with some stakes. Yeah, yeah.
There's a quest, there's a journey that's being led to here.
It looks like here's a cat who's going to grow up and be a football star.
I want to see more about Keithy.
There's going to be some trials and tribulations along the way, no doubt.
Now, this is the bit where we had to bring it back to the Grown Ups 2 universe.
So we just had to sort of curtail that journey.
I saw a lot of the crew getting very excited on set
when we were building with that scene
because they didn't see the script.
We just told them what to shoot.
And there were some pretty long faces
after we killed that storyline off immediately.
Yeah.
Yeah, they were not happy.
I think that's a good way to shoot, though.
Don't let anyone know what's happening next.
Don't want to let them know.
Just give them the immediate scene. They might not like what you're about to make uh and then they'd be sometimes be
brave enough to venture into an opinion now the good thing as well about shooting chronologically
is you can put all your most ridiculous stuff at the end like when we got uh steve buscemi to
dress up as flavor flav but by that stage he was already in so much of the movie he felt he couldn't
yeah couldn't not steve steve that was an offer of steve's as well
that whole arms in the air injury thing i mean it was sort of a throwaway i wouldn't imagine anyone
would um if i had to guess yeah i mean i've never really thought to guess if you had to guess what
what it was that steve was referring to if i had to guess yeah i would absolutely say say that it was electrocution.
Okay.
Because you haven't seen the first movie, have you?
I haven't watched it.
I wrote it.
You directed it too, but you never saw it.
There's no way.
It wasn't my cup of tea.
I'm not looking that gift horse in the eyes is what you said.
That's right.
And I think we all know what I was talking about.
This was a fun scene to shoot.
So electrocution happens when electricity runs through your body,
and if I had to guess at what had happened to Steve Buscemi,
and I'm not sure if anyone's brought this up before actually,
I would say lightning.
Does that feel like a new thought to you?
Struck by lightning while signaling a touchdown.
No, no, just struck by lightning and his arms shot up
as a muscular reflex.
I like that.
Chris Berman, we didn't actually get to work with him.
We just took that snippet from the real days of our lives
and just put it in our show.
But I imagine Chris Berman would be a really good guy to work with.
I think he's a real pro.
Dennis, our director who we got in for this picture,
really wanted to be somewhere in the movie
and actually developed quite a delightful character.
Zany, zany character.
You'll notice the doctor later on.
We'll talk about this later at the party.
If you pay attention to what the good doctor is saying,
he hasn't slept in 68 hours at this point
and then the very next thing he decides to do is go out and get a bitch in billy idol costume costume
so he can go to the faders we yeah we walk for fun we mapped out the um we mapped out the timeline
for this character and he is a real party animal i mean him and patty schwartz got on great they
had a lot of fun there were a lot of i were a lot of late nights or early mornings with those two.
The cool thing is, so Dennis has this trick that he does when he goes to clubs where because he looks dead, he just shuts his eyes and stays really still
and Paddy Schwartz freaks everyone out and says,
he's died.
It's a good prank they do.
I actually tried to go out with them a few times, but they were keen,
but every time they'd go out, I actually had to cover Paddy's shift
down at Blaze Pizza.
So I never actually made it out.
You went out one night with them,
and you said it was an absolute...
Dennis did the trick.
It was raucous.
Yeah, Dennis did the trick.
He did it a couple of times.
We did a real weekend at Bernie's with him
where he was our...
It was like a double bluff, though,
because I'm working at Bernie's.
They've got a dead body
that they're trying to fake off as real.
We did the reverse because I'm a good writer and i'm creative
unique brain that's what i've always liked about working with you very unique brain
now we uh got uh well i i always called him kid dynamite in the movies commonly referred to as
blow dry boy we got him uh yeah we need more screen time for him because he's he's pretty good
look at him there he miming uh he was miming drinking a beer, and we said,
Kid Dynamite, just be aware that it does look like you are fellating.
And he said,
No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
It looks like I'm drinking a beer.
And he really went with it.
Great catch there by Kid Dynamite.
Yeah.
Really, really good.
Blood Dry Boy decided to take his glasses off.
Yeah.
We decided to go with it.
That was fine.
He has pink eyes like a little piglet though.
Very strange to look into,
which I had to do during contract negotiations.
Yeah, you were very forthcoming
with your opinions of people's physicality on set
and that didn't rub well with a lot of the cast.
There you go.
There's the famous watch shot. It's the 21st of June, 2013. A lot of people. physicality on set and that didn't rub well with a lot of the cast. There you go. There's the famous watch shot.
It's the 21st of June 2013.
A lot of people.
359.
A lot of people got a pay rise
for nailing that.
Yeah.
Yeah, we didn't hold back
with the money after that little.
Now, what you'll notice here
is Mayor Rudolph
in the movie Chris Rock's wife
is making a voucher.
In real life,
Paul Thomas Anderson's wife,
which I didn't know,
Paul came on set one day and said, what are you doing here? We said, we're making a voucher. In real life, Paul Thomas Anderson's wife, which I didn't know, Paul came on set one day,
said, what are you doing here?
We said, we're making a movie, Paul.
And he just laughed.
He laughed for about two hours
and then he just walked back off set.
Yeah, it was a good joke we made.
So if you're listening, Paul, g'day.
Maya Rudolph was,
she was creating a voucher that said free batcrub
to sort herself out.
She was making that for Paul.
That was a real thing she was doing.
And we said, roll on that.
We whispered to our cameras, roll on that.
Nobody tell Maya that she's on.
It's really sweet.
She was talking to her mother.
And then we edited it into the film.
And we got into a lot of trouble with Maya for doing that.
She said, I agreed you could record the character.
You cannot record my life.
But we fought hard.
The studios, we won that. And we got to keep it in the film.
Fun fact about grown-ups, too.
We had more lawyers working just for the film
than the Department of Justice in the United States.
That's right.
And they were called Eagle Eagle.
Legal Eagle.
Legal Eagles.
I think they had to call themselves that because they-
A lot of them weren't lawyers, per se. Well, no. I mean, they were exclusively eagles, I think they had to call themselves that because a lot of them weren't lawyers Well no, I mean they were exclusively eagles
We hired over 200 bald American eagles as our legal team
and I mean you should have seen the complainants
trying to sort of hold court with a full-blown hawk
flying around the courtroom
It was very distracting, it really worked well I mean between that and the Latin accounts with a full-blind hawk flying around the courtroom.
It was very distracting.
It really worked well.
I mean, between that and the Latin accounts,
we really stuck it to him.
Oh, how long has that not been shooting?
I've got no idea.
We've got a second feed up in the corner there, though.
You're panned, mate. Battery swap time.
All right.
Now, this scene between David and Brayden,
you know, we thought it was lacking something,
so we put that Rockstar energy drink in in post-production,
and it really went to town and really did its work for us.
I mean, the scene before the Rockstar was put in,
it was a reshoot,
and we actually scheduled a reshoot for late December last year,
and the most convenient place we could get was in Iceland,
so that was going to cost us an arm and a leg,
and then one of the editors said, look what I've done.
He's just mocked up a little rock star can and put that in frame,
and the scene really popped after that,
and if you are looking for an energy drink,
I mean, if you're feeling a bit tired at the wheel or maybe you just got a big game or a big exam coming up
and you're not quite sure what to do,
I'd like to recommend Rockstar Energy.
And I'm not affiliated with them in any way.
I mean, I'm not sponsored.
This is not a paid-for promotion.
But Rockstar Energy makes you feel like a rock star,
makes you perform like a rock star.
So that really made that scene pop, I thought.
I was really proud of that.
What was that editor's name?
I think it was Edward Giles.
So if you're listening, Ed, cheers for that.
You're a lifesaver.
Cheeky oldie, eh?
So Lonely Island coming up.
Yep.
They were a fun bunch of young men.
They were larrikins, weren't they?
Did a lot of partying with Dennis Dugan.
They did.
I, of course, didn't get to go.
I was covering Paddy's shift at Gold.
It's a barrier hooker for them.
Do you know that?
I didn't know that.
That's really full on.
A jiggle eye, wasn't it?
Yeah.
There were a lot of, I mean, we lost a lot of good people on this.
And some bad ones too.
And some bad ones, yeah.
Thank God.
Really made the whole process worth it for me.
All right, and there they are.
Here are our lads.
Our fine young our lads Our fine young Trim lads
Funny thing about this song
We asked for the rights to it
From the band
And they said
We hate that song
Can we watch the movie
Before we sell you the rights to it
And they saw the movie
And they said
This is a perfect match
It was weird though
Because when we were talking to the people who made this song, Warrant, in the meeting, he looked me in the eye and told me this weird story about a horse.
What was the story?
It was really odd, wasn't it?
What was it?
It was a horse?
Really odd, wasn't it?
What was it?
It was a horse?
He started saying to me,
Tim and Guy,
what I've got for this picture is a beautiful gift,
a musical gift that I wrote many years ago
called Cherry Pie,
but I've put it inside a horse for you.
And he slid a little wooden horse on wheels,
like a child's toy,
across the table to me.
Didn't know what it meant at the time.
We checked the song in
and I've got that horse to this day.
I've been round your house for dinner recently
and I mean, it's full of little wooden horses.
You must have over two million of them.
A lot of people give me wooden horses, mate.
Can't say enough about Shaq and Peter Dante
as a dynamic duo.
In fact, you can look forward
To the spin off
They've got a trilogy of movies
Coming out directed by Peter Jackson
Starting in 2016
Then we've got one coming out
Each summer
And the trilogy is about
The morning that
Those two characters had
Before they arrived at Kmart
So it's just about
What Shaq and Dante got up to
Over that sort of
Two, three hour period
We shot that to a lot of directors.
Peter took it.
And I think he's getting four.
The first one's going to be four hours.
The second one's a real marathon at 17.
On that second hour, he's really gone to town.
And then the third film, we don't know.
We haven't really slated a release date.
He's such a visionary director, Peter,
because we said, Peter, Sir Peter,
what most movies do is they constrict a lot of time
that's being represented into a package
that's smaller than real time.
We would like to do the reverse
in which a six-hour morning for two police officers
in Stanton, Connecticut, transpires over 50 hours on the screen. do the reverse in which a six hour morning for two police officers in steenton connecticut
transpires over 50 hours on the screen he said i'll do it yeah we said thank you peter that's
right great relationship with peter now this song that we're listening how loud is that and you can
it's all right but we actually play this song in some form
through the whole movie
on a loop.
Even when there are
other songs playing,
we've just taken the master
on this down
so you can't,
it's not audible,
but it is still playing.
Do you reckon I can eat
a Christmas pie?
I think you can.
We've got 12 of them,
but people get upset
when I eat on the mic
and I can understand.
Eat away from the microphone.
Here we go.
This is David's
attempt at a burp snart.
He was really embarrassed that he had to try that.
That was the only swear word that made it through in the movie.
Another cartoonish turn from Kevin James' brother.
Real cartoon of a guy, real pro to work with.
Real dynamite on set.
You used to call him Kid Dynamite.
Yeah, I did.
It's quite condescending really really, because he is my senior.
But why the hell not, eh?
Can't be a laugh.
You got your first mouthful of that Christmas pie.
Do you want to tell me what that's like?
Pretty good.
Sounds quite dry.
Similar to the crackers with regards to the dryness.
No, man.
Your mouth is not moist, orally.
I'll take over from here
while you digest that.
We've got a lot of product placement from Pepsi.
They didn't pay us a cent.
We just really love the stuff.
I mean, it's absolutely delicious.
And if you are craving
a refreshing cola,
is that pie not going down
particularly well
nah
this was my favourite
scene in the movie
because it's where all the rest of the
sponsorship contractual agreements
we had were met
that was a big problem that needed solving.
That's right to the writer's room.
We agreed to a lot of sponsors and we...
We floated a couple of ideas.
The first one that I said was,
what if we're at the Super Bowl?
Every sponsor you've agreed to get on board
with the pitcher has their own blimp
similar to the Goodyear blimp.
And we just fly them overhead in sequential shots.
Initially, they were very excited by the idea.
They grabbed it.
But then we did a dummy run without sponsored blimps
but with real blimps at a live sporting event.
Over 50 blimps collided in a ball of gas.
I mean, you thought the Hindenburg was bad?
This was a Hindenburg of a Hindenburg.
Imagine 50 Hindenburgs colliding
above the Major League Baseball final.
Luckily, we didn't lose any lives on that one
by some miracle.
Lost type of sponsors, though.
Dell Computers. Yeah, Dell sponsors though. Dell Computers.
Yeah, Dell dropped out.
Carlsberg.
Yeah.
Well, we were iffy on Carlsberg
because we didn't know about having an alcohol sponsor.
JCPenney.
Yeah.
JCPenney.
That was a big loss for me.
I was looking forward to the contra that JCPenney could give.
What did JCPenney make again?
Clothes?
Yep.
Yeah, I was just looking at her wearing some JCPenney garb.
This fucking movie, eh?
It's just like finished.
It's just scene after scene after scene after scene after scene.
What is it amounting to?
Nothing.
We're on a freight train to nowhere.
Just arrives at a bridge with unfinished railing.
We go careening off the fucking thing into the water,
into the rocks,
and we all just wallow around in the shallows,
crying, impaled.
So what I like about this scene Is uh
We went back to Alaska
Yeah
There was a pain in the ass
Well we built
We built this
We had already come back
To the main studio in LA
Yeah
We built this
We were like nope
We gotta get that night time shot
Fuck Guy said
Let's get back to the airport.
You are not going to like this, I said.
Yeah, and we had to get straight back to the airport.
I mean, it was a very expensive set to build,
which did make it impractical having it in.
Good on you, Tanya.
Just want to say it.
Yeah, it did make it very impractical having it in Alaska.
There are a lot of production oversights like that.
And I don't know who should be held responsible for those
because, I mean, we did have final sign-off on everything.
So a lot of people...
We did have 600 people working under us.
Yeah.
Friends and whanau.
And a lot of people said that there was too many cooks.
But when it comes to making movies in Hollywood,
you can never have too many cooks.
Now, you might want to check out the movie a little bit closer up to the screen.
Tim got me with a good gag there.
When Bumpty says dinosaur, I didn't know it was part of his rap.
What does he say?
He says, sorry, that means you ain't got it.
And he rhymes with dinosaur.
Sorry to be blunt, but I don't front.
I'm hardcore.
I'm hardcore. Beat. And a lot of people don't front. I'm hardcore. I'm hardcore.
Beat.
And a lot of people said we held the beat too long.
Yeah, definitely.
For the joke to work.
I broke the rhythm.
You still got it.
Even in costume, you'll notice Adam is supremely comfortable.
I'll tell you one little fuck word that didn't get called Kid Dynamite on set.
That's Keith. Keith yeah Keithy
he's a little
ball of energy
little fuckwit
we CGI'd the dog
in the scene
for no fun
he took direction
fine
you did those
mean pranks to him
in his trailer though
and that really
antagonised the guy
I actually didn't know
he was afraid of snakes
so that's the difference
with that
which I explained
at the time
but he still didn't
take that one
neither did his parents
they actually took him off that's pretty funny though filling a trailer with snakes yeah that was a good one That's the difference with that one, which I explained at the time. But he still didn't take that one. Neither did his parents.
They actually took him off.
That's pretty funny, though, filling a trailer with snakes. Yeah, that was a good one.
That's funny.
That is funny.
That was really funny.
One of the snakes did.
It ate his hamster, though.
And that hamster was as old as him.
I mean, they've been best friends from memory for Keith.
Fucking weird hamster.
Yeah.
It was a weird friendship too.
One of my favourite deliveries there from Salma Hayek.
Probably number one for me on the list.
In front of the children.
She's really cranking that accent up to 11 there.
It took a lot of takes for us to get the right energy for that.
A lot of them we thought she oversold it.
So it took, I mean, after about 50, we were sort of laughing to ourselves,
going, I don't know
if we're ever going to get this shot.
Do we have one in there?
But then we said,
just one more Selma,
just turn it down to zero.
Yeah.
Turn the intensity down to zero.
You think you're at zero?
Go south of that.
That's right.
We're looking for negative four.
And she finally got one.
At this point, you think the movie's ending
It isn't
And it's like a cold slap in the face
With a big old trout
Your guests are here
I'm running out of steam for this movie
I might actually just delve in closer
Take a look at those pixels mate
Get them in you
Swish them around in your head
See what happens
Just be careful with that glass of water, mate.
There's a lot of electronics
power cables around.
We're in a real situation
on our hands here.
So, ladies and gents,
if you're not watching the movie
but you're listening to this
for some...
Like, who are you
if you're doing that?
We're at the Faders' house.
It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful house.
We shot this at Guy's house.
He bought this place immediately after we got Grown Ups 2 signed
and we had a couple of meetings with some corporations
who would appreciate it if we popped their brand.
You know, see if we could fit it in the film for a little bit of money.
There's nothing dirty about that that's commerce
that's how you make a movie and that's how we made a movie and that's how guy bought this house yeah
lovely house we destroyed it uh for the party scene which was disappointing like we literally
we we shot a scene where we burnt it down uh in real life we burnt down my house, but it just didn't really wash with the rest of the film,
so we didn't use it.
And I forgot to tell.
It was embarrassing.
My brother and his family were staying,
and I forgot to tell them.
And it wasn't until they were inside a full-blown inferno
that they realised, and they got out luckily,
but I mean, I was red in the face.
And they were too.
I mean, yeah, that was... And it was an oversight on my part, I guess, wasn't it? I mean, how was red in the face. They were too. I mean, yeah, that was...
And it was an oversight on my part, I guess, wasn't it?
I mean, how was I to know?
Shame we didn't use that shot, actually.
It was quite a nice shot of the whole house burning.
Hold on.
You'll see a continuity error here, folks.
Look at the raft when it first comes out.
It doesn't have any barriers in the middle to act as seats.
And when we go to the close-up shot, we've put seats in.
For me, that's so obvious.
I think more people noticed that.
I think I noticed that on the first watch.
You saw that so...
It wasn't first,
but it was very early on.
So glaring.
And the raft is consistent,
inconsistent throughout the whole film.
Yeah.
It keeps flicking between the seats and no seats.
That was a funny line
when he says Richard Simmons is a hero to me.
Mean-spirited, but funny.
Yeah.
Is it funny?
Is it funny because he's fat?
That is the joke.
Okay.
ZZ Top.
My uncles.
Your uncles.
My uncles are ZZ Top.
Your uncles.
The sort of singular or plural confusion is getting me here.
Your uncles.
Are ZZ Top. Are the band ZZ Top.
All of your uncles are in ZZ Top?
Yes.
Wow.
Except Mike Beard.
That's why we've costumed the two little kids in there.
We just sort of be funny to have people dress up like Prince at this point.
Could not get Tim Meadows' wife, whose name I can't remember off the top of my head,
could not get her to focus
on set. And I'll point out a couple of takes
where we
shot it a couple times. It was no more than
three. But
of those three that we shot across the seven days
of shooting,
she fucked up all of them.
And so we just had to go with the one that she fucked up the least.
And that really
annoyed me.
Really perturbed by that.
David Spade, though, just continuing to carry this movie on his broad comedy shoulders.
Almost single-handedly. He was a joy to work with.
He was a real pro, actually, was David Spade.
Him and Gordon Lovitz.
Yeah, Gordon Lovitz.
I mean, we gave him a real turd of a script,
and he made it shine.
He buffed that turd right out.
Sure did.
Polished it up, turned it into something really,
really able to fit inside a wooden horse.
Yeah.
It's funny.
We had a buffed-out turd and a horse.
You've got that on your mantelpiece, don't you?
Yeah.
Next to your Oscars.
Yeah.
Don't confuse what we're saying for a metaphor.
There was a real turd that we wrote the script onto.
We wrote it on human shit.
Now, my nephew and your niece, my nephew Isaac and your niece Carol,
they go out and they baked us this Rubik's Cube cake.
Yes.
We did not ask for this.
No.
And they just showed up on set with this cake.
And we said, that is just adorable. And we said, wait a minute. Let's ask for this. No. And they just showed up on set with this cake. And we said, that is just adorable.
And we said, wait a minute.
Let's roll with this.
We're at Guy's house.
We're all here partying anyway.
Why don't we, everyone, we'll get costume in here.
Just everyone chill out, have some drinks, but stay.
We've got the film crew to come in.
Soundy's got in.
Lighting's set up.
And we just kept rolling with the party we were already having,
but we turned it into a movie.
And the fact that it's 80s theme
is all based on the fact
that Carol brought in that cake
and there's the doctor there
again in his Billy Idol costume
I mean at this point
I believe Dennis
he hadn't slept for two weeks
he was frantic
frenzied
we thought it was impressive
that his character
hadn't slept for three days
but Dennis himself
hadn't slept for two weeks
and God knows what he was doing he did it I think he did an Iron Man in Berlin he said It was impressive that his character hadn't slept for three days, but Dennis himself had not slept for two weeks.
And God knows what he was doing.
I think he did an Iron Man in Berlin, he said,
and he also swam the English Channel.
I mean, he is a pocket rocket.
He gets a head full of steam and you cannot stop the guy.
Real pro to work with, though. A real joy.
I thought so, too.
I thought so, too, Guy.
One of my favorite bit of extras acting
is you'll see a lady just walked in behind Kevin James
and she's talking to a friend.
Yeah.
Now just bear that in mind
while we discover that Kevin James' son is a musical genius.
For the longest time I thought he was playing that.
Could not figure out if it was dubbed or not.
Yeah, really good finger acting.
This kid was a real pro.
He was a real joy to work with.
Really good.
We called him Nigel, I think, which wasn't his name.
So here are the extras in the background.
And just look at how well they sell.
They're disgust.
Oh, yeah.
You're right, man.
That's because Kevin actually shat himself on that take.
And when Kevin does shit himself, it was in his ideas book, of course.
Let me tell you, I mean, everyone everyone within a 500 meter radius knows about it and those women were on the front end of essentially a sonic boom
of shit um and that that's why it was such a good take that's why we put it in
it was the reality of the situation that sold it
finally i got some audio again i'm just it's just been so it's quite silent for a lot of the film
with these in A
it's probably because
it's showing all the stuff
that isn't just them talking
and you know we didn't
have a big budget
for post pro
on this film
you know that
because you know
what happened to that budget
well
don't you
I know exactly
what happened to that budget
and I do it again
in a heartbeat.
That's regretful
if you haven't
learned anything.
So out of context
you're right
this scene is a bit dark.
It is Adam Sandler
trying to lull
his child into sleep
by telling her
a terrifying story
and then when that
doesn't work
oh my god, really?
That's everything?
He drugs her.
Tries to.
Becky, she was a resistant
and I'm proud of her.
She said, I'm not taking drugs on set.
She's a real pro to work with.
That was in the script.
That must have been one of the ketamine days,
but we wrote in that Becky did take the drugs.
Again, I'm not sure.
Is there a continuity error with her costume here?
She's wearing that blazer.
Oh, no, no.
This is great.
I haven't noticed this before.
See, she's got her jacket all done up
and you can't see her T-shirt saying,
I Lenny Lenny.
That'll be because she's arriving at the party
with her husband.
Is she still wearing?
Oh.
But then later on,
when Lenny's meant to meet her by the letterbox,
she's undone her buttons to show the T-shirt
which says, I Lenny Lenny.
This is one of those situations that there are many
where the costume department were better at writing scripts
than we were.
And when we wouldn't let them in,
they would tell their story through costuming.
Through costume.
And I have to admit,
they're better storytellers.
They slip one through the gate.
Arguably the nice.
What they've done is they've put their storyline
in a wooden horse and they've put their storyline in a wooden horse,
and they've put some gorgeous clothes on that horse
and just left it at the actor's gates.
And the actors have said,
lovely horse, well-dressed,
with a bow tie coming,
which is why I'm wearing a bow tie today, guy.
I love that Global Woman gag.
I'm really proud of us for putting that in there.
I've got a strange affinity to the
you're going to need federal aid to clean that up.
Yeah, you do like that.
There's something pseudo...
It's not political, but it's politics-ish.
Yeah, whatever sort of handles you have to hang on to sanity while watching the movie
politic politic is oh yeah we've missed it yeah that's where adam sandler asks a lot of questions
seven remember how adam sandler at the start of the movie said i'm gonna solve this problem for
you and then you just put the monkey in a box and left it there. He is so lucky that that guy learned how to sew.
Oh, yeah.
He had no plan.
We got in a lot of trouble for this.
We forced Peter Bear to a dog down in a bear funnel.
And I tell you what, forget Peter.
It's those cunts who are working in the film industry
who want to protect
all the animals rights
that is a real threat
those film
film animal officers
that's what they're called
I believe
I was actually
pretty pissed off
when Shaq broke
my diving board
I was
you laughed
I laughed at the time
but I was furious
I was seething inside
you just got mad
when you figured out
and it was actually
after that happened
that we rewrote the script
to burn the whole
burn the whole thing down
and claim back on insurance
it's a smart move
on your behalf actually
yeah I mean
we made a lot of money
I still don't know
if the die in the pool thing
is an urban legend
that we just put in
or if it's a real thing
it's an urban legend
that we put in
does it not exist
it doesn't exist
how sure are you on that yeah 100 are you i'm 100 sure why because someone's told it to
us on a previous podcast okay i think maybe dom cory brayden dom cory knows everything brayden
higgins is just we couldn't stop him in this party scene.
Could not put a lid on that kid. He'd been spending a bit of time just around Paddy Schwartz's trailer,
and he just came back from that place fizzing, really ready to go.
Eyes as wide as anything, eyes the size of saucers.
A lot of blood noses on set as well, but we edited those out in post.
Blunt noses?
Blood.
Blood noses, absolutely.
That makes a lot more sense than blunt noses.
I'm not sure why I thought you said that.
Tomatoes.
Fun fact about tomatoes.
He's 85.
Yeah, he's so well preserved though because of those Kmart lights.
That's how he keeps that sort of the sun's harmful radiation
doesn't get him in the
department at Kmart
no well I mean
because we're actually
remembering it now
we had to shoot all of
Tim Meadows scenes
inside of Kmart
so while we did have this
this scene set at my
at my house
for Tim Meadows parts
in this scene
we had to
we had to fit out a Kmart
as outside at my house yeah it Meadows parts in this scene we had to we had to fit out a Kmart as outside
at my house uh yeah it's weird what's happened to his skin so he's lost the ability to process
earth's yellow sun's light and now Kmart owns him
yeah so that's what that's about
yeah so that's what that's about now this is a uh again this is something i put in i'll be the first to admit it this was my
journey as a child i got bullied a lot yeah and uh by stone cold steve austin as well yeah he used
to fly over remember he used to fly over from his events and he'd come around come down to your
intermediate school and he'd kick you around the place.
Certainly would.
Threw you down the slide.
There I was thinking, it's the bronchitis again.
It's been there ever since Stone Cold kneed me in the chest once.
I got infected.
It's never really come right.
Never really gone.
Yeah, no.
I thought that I'd kind of get some credit points because Stone Cold Steve Austin
was flying all the way to kick my ass but the kids
didn't get wrestling because I live in New Zealand
and no one had a TV
they thought it was strange really didn't they
why does this big man come and
beat up Tim once a month
it's odd
so I put it in the script and this is
kind of how I
this is obviously how you resolve things
this was quite cathartic for you.
Yeah.
When you're trying to...
When you're trying to...
Resolve the cycle of bullying,
the best way to do that is to call a fight.
I think.
Fight.
Okay, hold on.
Oh, how good. It's Duncan with Steve Austin's pronunciation Okay hold on Oh How good
Is Stone Cold Steve Austin's
His voice what
Pronunciation
I can't
I can't hear it
Oh you can't
Can you
Sorry it sounded like
It is good though
Potatoes
Um
Peter Dante
In the
The physical form of his life
Yeah
What
You pointed at your headphones
Like you were hearing
It was getting real loud there
Yeah cause there was some
Production music Just to recreate it For anyone listening yeah what you pointed at your headphones like you were hearing it was getting real loud there yeah because there was some production music
just to recreate it
for anyone listening
fantastic
if you are still watching
I mean you are
you're technically
almost finished watching
oh no there's still
a bit to go
but you've
you've almost watched
grown ups too
oh yeah
after we've spent so long
telling you not to
so I mean
congratulations I guess.
And sorry.
Yeah.
Isn't that a neat thought, though?
What?
Well, I mean, you know,
some people are actually going to get to be watching it.
Some people might be watching Grown Ups 2
for the first time right now.
They might have actually held off for 40 episodes
and now they're watching it for the first time.
I mean, this is a big moment
for them this is what they've heard people talking about 39 times in a row i just considered that
then i hadn't thought about that the whole time do you think that's interesting i think that's
no don't you well i don't know yes because what do you want from me man they must just have a
really weird i remember how we thought it'd be funny if people wrote down that what they thought
the timeline of the movie was?
Yeah.
I mean, they've all got an idea
in their head of the action
and how it plays out.
This is the first time they've seen it
pieced together as it was intended.
Okay, that is interesting.
So who are we talking about?
Three people?
Two people?
I don't know.
I imagine lots of them
haven't watched Grown Ups 2.
We discourage them every week.
We do.
Oh, man, that mallet guy's got a good reaction.
We've sullied you.
We've taken you into a closet, and we've punched you around,
and then we've thrown you out on the street and said,
good luck.
And for that, I apologize.
Like Stone Cold did to me on Sunday Cold Christ.
See, now her T-shirt is I Leonard Leonard,
and she's lost the jacket.
I think that's costume planting a really good joke in there.
Good on them.
God bless them and the wooden horse they rode in on.
Back to a sweeping shot of the frat boys descending upon the party.
And this scene was inspired by, I had just read Lord of the Flies.
Oh, great book.
Have you read anything else by William Golding
can't say
I have
no neither
but I mean
I remember that book
being so gripping
surely he wrote something else
which was good
you would think so
it's such an easy read too
because it's quite short
and the language is very
lovely
the novella is one of my
favourite lengths of anything
to read
yeah
it's like a good little session
with a book you know totally Stephen King quite a master of the novella of anything to read. Yeah. It's like a good little session with a book, you know?
Totally.
Stephen King, quite a master of the novella.
I haven't read any of Stephen King's novellas.
Oh, you should.
Stand By Me is based on a novella.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I haven't watched Stand By Me.
Novelle, yeah.
Novelle, not novellier.
That's what Stephen calls them.
And we're back to the film.
At this point, the frat boys are interfacing
with the community
of Stanton, Connecticut
who are all in Fader's house
I forgot what was happening
while we were shooting
I wrote this
we thought this was a bit of a leap
that the whole university
sort of part of town
and the whole rest of the town
just no one got on or had any
connection whatsoever tim meadows and his wife just slacking off in the background look at that
just fucking pay attention focus woman by to be honest no one really cared by this point no one
was paying attention we we we took the actor's scripts off them and we said look can you just
figure out a way to end this? End this?
Guy had a gun to his head at the time.
It was terrifying.
So they just ad-libbed this whole bit.
Find a way to end this. This whole fight scene.
They orchestrated it.
They choreographed it themselves.
We've spent the whole budget by now.
And they quite literally made this up on the spot.
And the only reason they were so keen to do it
and didn't walk off set is they needed some sort
of closure for the whole experience.
They also needed a movie to get out there and shop around,
you know, go, this is me.
A lot of the actors weren't desperate.
I mean, you know, guys like Kevin Jarrell,
they've all got their names out there.
They didn't need this, but God bless their souls,
the professionals they are, they finished it.
Paddy Schwartz, let's not beat around the bush,
it was pretty much just Paddy Schwartz who wanted to see this released. Paddy Schwartz. It's not Bad Around the Bush. It was pretty much just Paddy Schwartz who wanted to see this released.
Paddy Schwartz is the reason the movie exists.
Paddy and Arnie's
strong-armed Sony to get it out there.
You can
certainly get some pretty powerful
friends when you're the governor
of California.
And
still a pretty big figure in the bodybuilding community.
I mean, he literally has a lot of physically powerful friends.
Back into movies now, though, for Arnold Schwarzenegger.
What's he working on?
I think there might be a Terminator movie in the works right now.
Oh, that's cool.
I've seen him in The Expendables recently.
Oh, no, it's gone outside.
What was The Expendables like?
Really liked it. The only problem with The Expendables recently. I know it's cold outside. What was The Expendables like? Really liked it.
The only problem with The Expendables is,
because this is an action movie,
we're at this point talking about an entirely different movie
during the direct discometry.
Okay.
They mixed the sound down so low so everything's bassy.
Rewind it quickly.
Sorry, there's a bit where everyone's frozen on set.
We can't expect anyone to rewind
because they would have to re-sync that would like they'll just just say at the
right time again just say it it's not like uh oh there's just a shot where everyone on set
is frozen completely and then they move it's like a half a frame and it's really jarring
it's way to go guy fuck what was I talking about I don't know
you were talking about
the expendables
oh yeah yeah yeah
so they've mixed
all the sound too
like it's real
boomy and bassy
but as a result
I could not understand
anything Sylvester Sloan
was saying
yeah
like couldn't understand
a fucking word
of his dialogue
but still
cool movies
dug him
great swell
from blow dry boy there
yep
called him
kid dynamite on sex
he just delivered every single take
and Kid Dynamite here
bringing the noise with that bite
I mean
if you're watching
we called this Asian guy Sensei Dynamite
because he taught us how to
do our fight choreography
Paul Hudson was very demanding
in that we put in this choreographed dance scene and
we had to sell it somehow as part of a fight
so we just put another person for him to play against
Sensei Dynamite. He didn't know
that he was in a fight scene. He genuinely
thought that that was, he was dressed in
a unitard for that take and we put that
Indiana Jones costume on him in post
I mean he would not take part in a fight
scene but he was very insistent on getting that dance in there
That was a challenge I heard as well from our visual effects department
like
like tough man
forget smog
this was hard
I'm just so glad I mean at this point I feel
my muscles start to relax
my brain starts to relax because I know that we're nearly at the
sphincters at the finish line
alleviating their pressure
that'd be weird then you'd shit wherever you were at this point in the movie that's right is that how sphincters are at the finish line alleviating their pressure that'd be weird then you'd
shit wherever you were
at this point in the movie
that's right
I think
is that how sphincters work
am I saying sphincter right
sphincter
sphincter
I say sphincter
yeah that sounds more right
we've really gone off the rails
what do you expect
what do you
what do you want from us
what
what honestly
I think I'm gonna click that on again
we're dancing on the field
And we're dancing on the
I always thought it was funny
How this guy thinks it's hilarious
Tim Meadows is bald
I actually always think that
Tim
Tim thought that
And then I started noticing it
And that is funny
What's that?
How excited this guy is
That Tim Meadows is bald
That's good eh
He's got
He's got
I got a
I got a wild one Wow wild one wow good stunt eh yeah do you
know how we did that do you say do i know do you know no do you want to know uh yeah because i was
put him on a wire pretty cool story huh pretty simple that was one of the times that we just
followed the book sometimes the
the most obvious option
is the best option
yes
Occam's razor of filmmaking
that was something we'd learn
by the end of the shoot
so
Taylor Lautner
with the most incredible
kick I've seen in cinema
Taylor Lautner
is a
is a judo a judo expert a judo expert
A judo man
Like James Bond
Fuck
We're recording a podcast after this as well
Maybe
See if we can double down
Look at the extras
Not even trying over
What's his name?
I struggle to believe that that deer
Has not managed to get that bra off its antlers all day.
Although it didn't go home and its friends were like,
hey, I'll get that out for you.
It's embarrassing.
Well, how's it, oh, I guess they could with their antlers.
Yeah.
I guess once you get something on a deer's antlers,
it could very well be there to stay.
With that shot of how the deer is coming for Taylor Miltner
and where you go to a POV,
really looks like it's going to gore him in the face.
Yeah, I always thought i i
wanted to shoot an option but we we weren't actually allowed to do any of our own stunts
uh by the end of the shoot i want an option where the deer actually did uh we were going to use a
real deer and where it did actually get pin taylor his rib cage and actually pin him to the ground
yeah and just gore him completely now the cross fade the cross dissolve there was an interesting
decision by Jerry
but the wrong one
demonstrably
wrong
also I always felt bad for Nick
he gave a really good performance
in this scene actually he was a real scene stealer
but we just could not get him in the edit
but you will see a little portion of his face
coming up in from memory three.
He's already been in edge of frame a few times.
Well, the director will be saying what we said was...
Can we just get Nick in there to muddy it up?
There we go.
Muddy it up.
Muddy up the shot.
And there he did.
Now, for a long time,
we thought that this photo was of Robert O
from the Kmart store as a child,
but it turns out it's actually of Kevin James.
I don't really understand why
because it's such a distinct character trait that someone else
already has. It's an incredibly confused gag
that one. We didn't write that
it was the other guy
We actually used this, this was just a regular crew lunch
and we shot it, we just rolled on this
so this was just a real conversation
Imagine if this was your life though
you fucking went out and got
came with your buddies
and that's what you just walked into you didn't make any of it This was your life though You fucking Went out Came with your buddies And then what
Came home
And that's what you
That's what you just walked into
You didn't make any of it
That is insane
I got up in the middle of the night
Last night
Famished
And I made a
Like a bean soup thing
Tomato based bean soup
Fuck it hit the spot
I was debating for
For a very long time
hold that thought Tim
whether or not I should go to McDonald's
we should narrate
it's the middle of the night
we should narrate the end of this
really wanted a cheese food
so Adam wanted to get one last product placement
in shock for the final scene
and god bless him
so we put it in
Rice Chips
they gave us a bit of money
and we just completely forgot about them
not even the supermarket
you see the Rice Chips brand
so we just put it in his hand.
Because we thought that a good character trait for Lenny was he loves snacking.
He wakes up snacking.
He goes to sleep snacking.
Always snacking.
That, and we were legally obligated to include it.
And there's that, too.
So, I mean, again, this is...
The gripping resolution.
One of those moments where you really think we've had onto an emotional core,
a tender moment, and then Adam keeps acting yeah we didn't write the last bit in he's got a he's got
i wrote this ending this is me and i'm proud of it and i'm proud of you i'm not proud of you but i
respect you uh for the ability to be proud of it because you respect my ability to be proud of it. That's right. Okay.
You understand what I'm getting at there, don't you?
Well, I hope not, to be honest,
because it's a bit of a diss.
Adam Sandler is talking to his unborn child,
which is in the womb right now.
Barely conceived.
We were riding high for a while during that commentary Tim and then there was some dips
too but what a journey it was
this has been just a fabulous experience
Guy Montgomery and
what a journey it's been
40 watches of grown ups too so far
so happy you could join and celebrate with us
it's always important to have a
quick think back to before we even kicked off
or episode one
so there we go with Adam
continuing to...
I figure we can do some stuff over the credits here.
Yeah, we can just have a conversation.
So Live Every Moment's going to be blaring through my set.
I'm opening with it.
And there's an encore.
Do you remember that?
Episode one.
We watched it for the first time
and I suddenly became very worried, very afraid.
Well, it was just a different...
We didn't have any idea what the stickability of us
was going to be back then.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, it was different.
It's just different.
Every week is different.
Every week, it's a different experience.
Yeah.
Isn't that incredible?
Because it's the same movie.
What a crazy idea. Well, if i could tell you through song yeah i'd say love every day
yeah because before you know it your precious time slips away you've got it Yeah Live every moment Love every day Yeah
Cause before you know
Oh shit
We got it wrong
But it's okay
Time
Oh shit
There's other words
I've only ever bothered to remember
So these are the credits
We didn't really put much thought into these
We just thought we'd go as vanilla as possible
Just fucking stitch the whole thing up
Really?
Put it on the assembly line
Do you know how much these titles cost us?
No.
How much did we pay for these titles?
This is the Rice Chips sponsorship.
Paid for this whole thing.
This is $6 million to do the titles.
Rice Chips paid for these?
Yeah.
I love that Rice Chips money.
Roughly divvy up where shit went.
The Rice Chips money went to the titles.
Shoutouts to everyone involved in the film.
I thought you were going to attempt to do a readout,
but you bailed on yourself.
Norm Crosby really bought the heat as a Kmart employee.
He bought a little oven.
He was baking all morning.
He was a real good guy to have on set.
He really brought the energy up.
Chris Murrell, who played Beefcake Kitty.
Beefcake Kitty?
I don't know who Beefcake Kitty is.
Fuck off.
You're not naming.
That can't be David Spade's love interest, can it?
No, I thought it'd be the kid.
Beanbag with arms and legs.
Beefcake Kitty.
Oh, Kitty.
Yeah.
Beefcake Kitty.
Come on, Beefcakes.
It's got to be.
She didn't get.
Holy shit.
Her name should have been higher in the credits.
Beefcake Kitty.
So her name's Kitty.
Apparently.
Has that ever said?
Hey, remember, didn't Tyler Spindle do a good job on that second unit?
He had a really good spread of cheese.
He had some aged gouda, which I love.
Way to falling out.
Yeah, I know.
You fell out with more or less every single one of these people.
It must be torture for you to read the names.
No, I made good with some of them, though.
Built bridges.
Leslie Brown.
Now, she was the costumer for Mr Sandler.
I've got to say, Leslie was really taking the piss with how easy that money was.
She literally did not show up on set once.
I'm pretty sure Leslie Brown is a Trojan tax horse.
She might not be a real world entity.
We don't know.
Never met her. But fuck a lot of money
got funneled into whatever it is leslie good god um the production accountant big big shouts to
whitney troy and allison when we say whitney troy and allison as well uh those are the three we
credited yeah thousands are acting underneath so many names we just it was too difficult to decide who to put on the credits,
so we just drew the names from a hat in the end.
And the three of them, unfortunately, sadly,
now federal prison for the rest of their natural lives.
Adam Sandler had three assistants.
Yeah.
I don't remember that.
I remember two.
Always.
No, well, that's the beauty of it.
The three ones never seen.
I see. Always around. And I think what happens is if something happens to the first two, always no wow that's the beauty of it the third one's never seen but always around
and I think
I think what happens
is if something happens
to the first two
um
third guy just pops in there
and becomes the visible one
and then
a new person
that you've never
even heard of
pops into that third
invisible position
is Adam Sandler's assistant
listen to this
oh can you hear this
have you got this music
coming through
where did we get this from
was this an original
composition
because it's quite lovely
I feel like they just
ripped it off GarageBand
you get this in every movie
this classic thing
like I remember
this exact
style of thing
happening at this point
in the credits
in Van Wilder as well
at the end
and I used to always
stick around for credits
at the end of the movie
because especially
with comedy movies
they'd have outtakes or they'd put like a little funny something at the very end
yeah so i'd whenever i go to a comedy film when i was a teen i'd always stick around just curious
what was the first movie that you like the earliest movie you know of that did something like
at the end the only one that i can certainly remember right now is uh russia had some really
funny oh yeah chris t Tucker was so funny on set.
It's that time that guy goes out of a casino
and lands on a car,
and Chris Tucker's like,
damn!
And that was in Russia too.
He's like, damn!
That guy ain't going to be in Russia 3.
And I remember just cracking up.
Is that an outtake?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, damn it.
They should have left that in.
That's just meta enough.
That's nice.
I like that.
The earliest one I can remember,
if I can take you back to the year 1987,
a little John Hughes film called Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
And at the very end,
if you wait for all the credits on that,
Matthew Broderick and the role of his life.
It was so sad that his best ever movie
was right at the start of his career.
He comes back on and addresses the camera,
barrels it right down. He says, over the movie's finished go home throw an ice that's good get out of here
well let us tell you uh that there is no easter egg at the end of grown-ups 2 there is no
promise of grown-ups 3 although we have on it on pretty good information, that's going ahead, which is great.
Could use the top-up of the bank account.
I've heard it's been a lot of money building a new house.
Do you remember when Columbia Pitchers tried to get their name taken off the picture?
I've got to reference Justin Bieber posters provided courtesy of Brito.
Star Wars, JFK presidential bust.
I don't even remember where we put that.
And the Smurfs.fs oh so that Star Wars
minivan was cleared
I always thought
we were just hoping
for the best on that
good stuff
this is number
4700
this is a work of fiction
the characters
incidents and locations
portrayed and the names
herein are fictitious
in any similarity
to or identification
with the location
name, character
or history of any person
or product or entity
is entirely coincidental
and unintentional.
Just in case anyone thought that.
Furthermore, the American Humane Association would like to say
that the American Humane Association monitored the animal action
and no animals were harmed in the making of this production.
There's something to do with tobacco in there too.
Sony, make believe.
Make believe this isn't happening.
Make believe and maybe you can get out alive.
This thing's really come off to a tail.
A weak, thin, flimsy tail.
I'm sorry.
I would have loved to have ended on a bigger note.
But you know what?
Everyone else in the movie didn't fucking bother.
So why should we?
Thank you very much for listening to the director's commentary.
We hope you've enjoyed it.
It was a wild ride
apologies
if we've upset anyone
I wouldn't imagine we have
I really hope not
we're not setting out
to upset anyone
we're just setting out
to watch a movie
52 times
that's right
and every week
we edge closer
so goodbye from me
goodbye from me
and uh
fit fairly well see you on the internet edge closer. So goodbye from me. Goodbye from me. And feel you well.
See you on the internet.