The Worst Idea Of All Time - Review: Jack and Jill
Episode Date: May 28, 2018The boiz have dipped back into the Sandler well to sip from a cup that was oft wished for by Worst Idea fans. Roundly considered the worst Adam Sandler film ever made, and according to some - in conte...ntion for the worst film ever produced, Jack and Jill sees Adam Sandler play himself and his twin sister. Because what every Adam Sandler movie needs, is twice the Adam Sandler. Spoiler: This film isn't great. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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In every family, there's one person
who drives you a little crazy.
I gotta pick Jill up at four in the morning.
She comes once a year and she's leaving on Sunday.
But during the holidays...
Jack, no fighting this year.
There's no escaping it when it's your sister.
How we doing?
Your twin sister.
Are you going bald?
Huh?
No, no, no, no, you're getting fatter
and your hair doesn't realize
it needs to cover more face.
OK.
From the producers of Just Go With It and Grown Ups.
You and Jill are so alike.
We are nothing alike, I promise you.
She isn't subtle.
Jill, this is Otto.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
He's homeless, right?
Are you whispering with a bullhorn or something?
Everybody hears you. she isn't shy i put a little list together of things i want to do before i leave studio tour
beach horseback riding let's go oh oh my god maybe i should stay out through hanukkah
and she isn't leaving hello everybody, everybody. Welcome along.
We've got a lovely surprise for you.
To a Patreon episode.
It was too challenging.
First of all, Neil Breen, the lengths to which that man will go.
I understand because he works so hard to get these movies out there,
but then when you try and watch them, he makes it virtually impossible.
Yeah, almost completely impossible to watch the older ones um i don't want to get into the
logistics too much because it may uh uh make a subject to certain litigation under the u.s
digital millennium act or whatever the fuck it's called if you pretty much if you want to watch a
neil breen movie you've got to uh you've
got to give neil breen money on the internet and he will mail you a dvd but as i've been finding on
these forums a lot of people are just having trouble with that as well it's like please man
we want to see the movie so guy and i had a window neil breen is you in your final form there's a man who insists on doing everything
constantly bogged underneath the mountain of work he's created for himself so we have a bit of short
time together guy and i we've got to seize these opportunities when they arrive of us being in the
same place at the same time so we really do and we have to enjoy them as best we can and as best we know how
what shall we do with this window we've we've slated for ourselves i know let's dip back into
the sandler well what is the one movie that so many people came forward to us and said if you
were ever gonna you know do ast Idea-esque season again.
Which we're not.
There are a few, but in the top five from day one has always been Jack and Jill.
The Adam Sandler movie where he plays both himself
and his identical twin sister.
Jack and Jill.
And it is one of...
It's a wild ride.
It was made in 2011,
directed by Sandler associate Dennis Dugan.
I'd also like everyone to know that
after correctly forecasting several pieces of action in the film,
Tim described himself as the Dennis Dugan of the South Pacific.
Well, you can see everything that was about to happen
from a reasonable distance.
I mean, it doesn't take a genius.
This movie, as we said, was made in 2011.
How different can the world be now in 2018?
I'm so glad you asked.
In Omega seven years ago in 2011.
Well, let's go through some of the cameos, shall we?
We have Caitlyn Jenner appearing as Bruce Jenner in the film in a short montage,
which is just a kind of a... what's the word I'm looking for?
Like an out-of-date reminder of what has been.
We have an incredible, this is only really a sidebar to the body
of what this discussion will be, I'm sure.
An incredible cameo from Norm Macdonald,
genuinely a ray of light in the middle of the film.
So good to see him.
He arrives playing himself
A disinterested date for the Jill character
With impeccable timing
And I have to say
Seven years man
He's really aged
Yeah he was very trim back then
He was looking very good in the film
Full of hair and stuff
He was looking a bit healthier
He led one of the funniest moments
Where he runs away from the date He goes on a bit healthier. He led one of the funniest moments where he runs away from the date.
He goes on a date with Jill after.
Most of the film centers around the fact that.
So Jill is so repugnant that no one will go near her.
No one will love her, but she wants love in her life.
And Jack, her twin brother, is a very successful ad executive.
Adam Sandler playing the same role he always plays.
And then also also because any adam
sandler movie the only thing that's missing is nearly always twice the adam sandler plays his
sister jill who is essentially a vessel for sandler to paint what he sees is all of the
shortcomings of woman into one despicable character uh and norm mcdonald does not enjoy the date and in a rare moment of laughter
he goes to the bathroom and jill insists that the date's still going the waiters are going oh do you
want me to pack up your sales he goes no he's just still in the bathroom and she goes to check
he's nowhere to be seen and when that happened i said to him the most norm mcdonald joke is if
he was just uh hanging from his belt in the bathroom but instead of that as
a family movie the camera pans up to see him like gripping to the lighting fixture on the roof
spider-man styles while also barreling the camera yeah it was very funny and and definitely like the
closest you could get through the jack and jill prism to the thing you had predicted um the big the big cameo i've got a little bit more time capsule stuff sony sony vio products are
everywhere in this movie a lot of screens a lot of phones a lot of laptops brought to you by the
good people at sony and uh the los angeles lakers basketball team featuring Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum,
Kobe Bryant.
Truly a different era for the Lake Show.
It's got to be said, man.
Sony need to calm their balls when it comes to product placement.
Every movie that they touch is
is filthied by their hand.
Within the first minute of this movie,
Adam Sandler very cleverly wrote his role
as an ad executive, thereby creating a world in which he can insert as many brand names as he wants under the guise of his character at work.
It's actually super full on. Within the first 60 seconds of the film, there's kind of a false start, like a cold open to the film.
I think one of the credits may be coming up.
Identical twins talking about being identical twins.
Yeah, shot documentary style
And then we are thrust
Into the world of Jack and Jill
And what is it
It's like Pepto Bismol
He's on a shoot for
Pepto Bismol
He's drinking a Diet Coke
And he's talking about pitching a big ad
A Dunkin Donuts campaign
Within a minute, they say,
Tim Meadows approaches Adam Sandlin and says,
Dunkin' Donuts is going to drop us as a client
unless we get Al Pacino in the Dunkin' Donuts ad.
And Adam Sandlin rightfully says,
we're never going to get Al Pacino.
So that's three huge products in the first minute.
What ensues is a beautiful journey for 91 minutes,
proving us all
wrong um but the single most striking feature of this film and look to their credit they weren't
to know but noted pedophile jared fogel pops up in this movie back before anyone knew and he's he's just there as a goofy subway mascot and it is
uh truly harrowing to see his image it's incredible to be watching this movie and
thinking this is one of the most bizarre experiments in filmmaking i've ever seen
and then out of the blue goes boom also jared fogel's here remember me it actually blows my
mind that they haven't um taken the time to edit him out.
Because we watched this on Netflix, right?
If I was Adam Sandler or part of his production company,
I would comb through and get rid of Jared Fogle appearances
and re-upload a different version of the movie from here on in.
Well, you lose a lot if you lose the Fogle cameo.
The Fogle cameo adds nothing.
You're insane.
The most important scene in the film.
Jill says, what do you eat?
10 sandwiches a day?
It's too many sandwiches.
And he says, I'm allowed to eat anything I want.
I knew you were cheating.
Yeah, it's incredible stuff.
If you lose that, I just feel like, you know,
it ties the whole movie together.
The central pillar rests on Jared Fogel's
highly forward shoulders. You're absolutely right. There's no reason for jared fogel to still be in there and so many
reasons for him to not be there now it's insane it was it was quite shocking quite shocking seeing
him but such is the insanity and mayhem that is this film it's so wild you guys and i know that
this is the quintessential uh you know it's almost a meme of a bad film it's
it's been so often talked about and referenced but um really biggest belief how this one got
across the finish line would you like to tell me how much do you think the budget for this film was
i'd love to i estimate that this film in which we see al pacino extensive screen time not a cameo
he like co-stars in this.
Katie Holmes is the love interest.
Wait a minute, this fuck Adam Sandler is so funny.
He's just like, Drew Barrymore, you're my wife.
Salma Hayek, you're my wife.
Katie Holmes, you're my wife.
Oh yeah, what's the role?
Just what I think a woman is meant to be.
You have six lines, but I'm going to splash you on screen quite a lot on my arm.
You love me unconditionally and humanize me because I'm such a fucking pig of a man.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
Budget for Jack and Jill?
$30 million.
Double it.
Oh, no way.
And then add $19 million. $79 million. Double it. Oh, no way. And then add $19 million.
$79.
Oh, boy.
I wonder how much of that Al Pacino got.
What did it make?
Have you got that up?
Okay, can I guess?
This movie made $200 million.
Less.
Less.
It made $150 million.
$149.7 million dollars far out and it is just uh honestly it is so demonstrably like callous towards the cinema at one point there's a scene where they go to the
movies inside of the movies which i think is the most insulting part of it because it's a reminder
that adam sandler is aware that movies exist to be consumed by paying customers and to see him in
a cinema while we're watching this movie i was like you dog you low breed how can you do this
it's honestly it is that is that is arrogance that is brazen disrespect um So I think we should go through the sort of plot by plot.
I hate doing plot by plot.
Well, then we don't have to do it.
But what I do want to talk about is the scene at the start.
Give it to me in a minute, the whole movie,
and then we'll do the scene at the start.
Okay, have you got a timer up?
Because I like an actual timer.
And you call out the 30s and 50s.
I'll just keep my phone going.
This is important to me.
I've got to do this legit.
Because it's really difficult to discern with these movies
what the difference between plot and just...
Yeah.
Okay, here we go.
Actually, give me 30.
You want 30 seconds?
Yeah.
Your time starts now.
Adam Sandler plays an ad executive
based in potentially Los Angeles
and has a wonderful family home
where he has two adopted children and a wife
played by Katie Holmes. His life
is torn asunder by a brief
four day visit from Jill, his twin sister
who he hates. She ends up staying
overstaying her welcome completely.
He needs to secure an air
campaign for Dunkin Donuts with Al Pacino.
Al Pacino chants meets Jill
and they fall in love and he
almost loses his sister over it
But they learn the value of friendship and family
Fuck
Pretty close
I could have done it in 60
Yeah absolutely
That scene at the start
Because I thought we were going to be in there the entire 90 minute film
There's a dinner table scene up top
Is that
Where are we?
Is that Thanksgiving? No it's before thanksgiving
oh no that is that is thanksgiving oh no it's not passover they have hanukkah after thanksgiving
though she went to visit for thanksgiving and then she stays for hanukkah we're in so this is very
early in the film when jill first arrives uh jack goes and picks her up from the airport and she's
got a million bags and that's the only reason we have that scene, just to do a brief visual gag about how many bags she's got,
which is crazy.
Also to see Sandler see Sandler.
Yeah, that's true.
And it's a real when Harry met Sally moment.
The mouth-watering, the tantalising prospect
of this comedically gifted performer
playing against the only man capable of keeping up,
himself, Sandler v Sandler. Sandler is in such a capable of keeping up, himself.
Sandler v. Sandler.
Sandler is in such a league of his own, the Sandler League,
that he literally, the only person they could cast to hold up this movie alongside him was himself.
The only person who would be willing to play the role as written
to degrade...
No, you're wrong.
Al Pacino parties in this film he's there like he plays
the role how can i ask you how do you think the the concept of this movie was born hold on let
me talk about this table scene first okay let's just get it out of the way because i've got to
get this off my chest it goes on so long and everything is so drawn out and unfunny and it's
just insane it's just a table with adam sandler and Adam Sandler and Katie Holmes and the two kids.
And I think that's it, right?
Yeah.
And it's just so deeply un-anything.
And you're there for so long.
You feel like you are trapped in purgatory.
He's trying to draw upon the comedic trope of the awkwardness around a family member who you haven't seen in a while and how you always get kind of you grate each other when you're reintroduced to family
members from you know when you've got your own adult life established but there's no laughs in
it so you just really get that not in your stomach feeling of being in that scenario and in some ways
i guess from a meta point of view like full credit to the boy adam sandler he has captured the feeling of feeling like you're captive somewhere because that's how
you feel in the movie well that's what we were talking about when that scene was unfolding was
it's so it's just you know everyone in the film is so unpleasant to be around and here you are
literally having to sit through a meal with them. And the way that Jill is drawn, especially early,
is so awful that when she's upset at the dinner table
and decides to leave, she's like, I'm going.
And she gets up and leaves.
And in the next scene, you follow where she's going.
The guy said, can we not follow Jill, please?
Yeah, I was like, when she said, I'm leaving the table,
I was physically relieved that I no longer had to be at dinner with this person.
And then to have to follow her into the woods, I was like,
no, this is only 10 or 15 minutes in.
Isn't that so interesting?
With a normal film, you don't ever get a sense of like,
okay, now I'm going to follow you, now I'm going to follow you.
But with this thing, you're like, okay, no. Can we go to next door's house?
Anyone, anywhere else.
Let's go down the street.
So, sorry, to answer the question that you were posing.
So, what was the germ of the idea?
What got everyone in the room excited and they said, yes, we're onto something?
I mean, this was definitely, what year did you say this?
2011.
Right.
So, the economy is starting to pick back up a little bit.
Right, so the economy's starting to pick back up a little bit,
and the big companies, big blue-chip clients,
are starting to pour a little bit more money into advertising again,
and they needed a vehicle, and that vehicle is, as always,
Adam Sandler's production company, Happy Madison.
And it's like there's something about Adam Sandler and his disdain for anything you hold sacred in entertainment.
If there's a person who you really relish, whose comedic career is tremendous, or even someone whose dramatic acting career like Al Pacino is tremendous, he will put that in the wood chipper and all of your feelings you think the the note the idea
of this film was born from the idea of cynicism it was adam sandler being like who can we drag
down with us i think it was there was some advertising dollars floating around and the
movie came second even like the format of it being a film came second this was an ad so in the writer's
room when they're talking about how they're going to get this thing going
They're going to get it moving forward
Beyond the ad, beyond the finances behind it
But you have to go pre-writers room
Because that's where normal movies are born
It's not where this hellish nightmare
Hybrid
Bit of blended content came from
I want you to put me inside the creative process
Of this movie
There was an advertising company that initiated this film.
This didn't come from a script writer.
This came from an ad company.
It was written by Adam Sandler.
It wasn't.
It was written by an ad company who attached Adam Sandler to the project.
Do you understand what I'm saying, guys?
This is a campaign.
This is a spot.
Do you understand what I'm saying, guy?
This is a campaign.
This is a spot.
If Super Bowl was long enough, they would have run Jack and Jill as the half-time entertainment show in the ad break.
It is top and tailed as a Dunkin' Donuts commercial.
It's a fucking Dunkin' Donuts commercial.
What's his name?
Donkacino.
It's so messed up.
And Katie Holmes is in there.
She's done good work. She didn't deserve this you gotta feel bad for katie holmes she is barely acting in this movie she is just like
the first scene she gets is her in bed with you guessed it adam sandler i i legend i've got a
this is going to sound super dark because it is super dark, but I kind of believe this is true.
I reckon she was lining her pockets to get ready to get the kid
and jump out at Scientology Church.
I think that's what this is.
Because a mother needs to do what a mother needs to do.
A parent has got a parent.
I'm going to check the timeline on this to see if it all checks out.
You give Katie Holmes the benefit of the doubt.
She was absolutely doing the right thing there.
But I think with Al Pacino,
there was no need for him to take his illustrious film career
and flush it down the toilet.
What is it with these?
It's like, what's his name who's in all the Ben Stiller films?
Owen Wilson?
No, no, no, Meet the Fockers and stuff.
The old dramatic actor of Al Pacino, Elk.
Who am I thinking of You know
July 9
2012
Katie Holmes
Files for divorce
It all checks out
Yeah
This is what's happened man
I
What were you asking
Ben Stiller films
Yeah yeah you know
The older dramatic actor
Very good
But he's in all the
Ben Stiller comedies
What's his name
Of sort of
An Al Pacino
Vintage
What's his name
I don't know good meet the
fuckers the dad robert de niro yeah de niro yeah yeah it's the same career trajectory you know but
the first one of those was actually um really good yeah i have heard that i can't remember it was
diminishing returns from there years and years and years ago i can't i mean your theories everything
checks out
this you got so many moving parts behind the scenes of this movie al pacino's the only question
mark is to motive katie holmes has got a pretty messy divorce to deal with from tom cruise and
she needs to line her pockets because that church are litigious and so she needed to get get that
lawyer money how wild was it when tom cruise went on oprah yeah and stood on the couch and said i'm
in love yeah that is a breakdown oh we were witnessing a man beyond the edge hey it's funny
that's the thing about a mental breakdown you often hear about talking people people talking
about where their their limits are and you don't know till you've crossed them and then you look
back and you go there it was it is madness oh fuck honestly we've got to stop commoditizing and monetizing people
breaking down in public a i'm not down with it it's madness yeah it's not right it's it's immoral
for sure um so shaquille o'neal shacks in there you better believe he's in this movie he got the best role
and the best line
he got a genuine laugh
from old Timbo
he
he's on a
TV screen
in Adam Sandler's office
they're looking at
footage for
upcoming campaign
and he's got some
goofy wig on
and he's selling
hams
and he says
with love
in his heart
and his eyes
this
is a once in a
generation ham that really got me that holds up that is that is With love in his heart and his eyes, this is a once-in-a-generation ham.
That really got me.
That holds up.
That is a funny, that is any time, any place, that is a funny thing to say.
It's a once-in-a-generation ham.
That tickled me.
Oh, that got me good.
And then the other thing that actually I got a real genuine laugh out of,
let's chuck that shining light stamp on top of this one
is an answer phone message of Jill
where it says you have reached the answer phone of
what is this?
how does this beep?
and it was well done
you did like that
that one didn't travel quite as well as the once in a generation hand
but it was pretty funny
there's just
at one point in this movie also if you want if you
want a vague idea on how funny adam sandler finds the idea of him dressing up as a woman
in this movie wherein he spends half of the movie dressed up as a woman he creates a narrative
device which allows him adam sandler playing jack to dress in drag and become a woman.
Twice within the same movie where he is already performing for the entirety of the film as
a woman, he becomes a woman.
And then in a very classy touch at the end of the film, he also casts David Spade as
a woman to create a scene where him, David Spade and katie holmes can all fight one another as woman
it's fucking crazy it's total lunacy man and i'm glad it happened i'm really really glad it
happened and i'm actually glad i watched it as well can you imagine going back to this
week after week i mean that would destroy a person. A lot of people wanted us to, Guy. This was an often recommended film for the format
and I'm so grateful that we don't have to return to this.
There are some bits that kind of skip through
and like any Adam Sandler production,
there's a lot of splashy colour and locations after a while,
but the first bit of this film is so heavy going.
Yeah, I mean, these movies,
it's grown up to-esque in that
they do wear their budget a little bit.
Everything, I mean, the colours are so rich.
All the set dressing, everything is so...
Everything's paid for.
We're on a cruise ship,
so you get like a 45-second ad for this crew,
and they introduce the company of the cruise ships,
and there's just all of the stock footage
of people having fun in
wave pools and carousels it's it's messy so that we can introduce a new location that adam sandler
doesn't have to pay for it to be in the film it's fucking genius i don't know where they got that
castle from where al pacino lives in europe that was pretty dope looking and that was the bit
actually where um it just made me sad to think there are so many
industry professionals who are trying so hard and actually doing a really good job with things like
location scouting and set jury so i reckon they care you know if you're in hollywood all you want
is a ticket to the sandler gravy train because that guy is making he shits out movies but you
can get paid and have pride in your work. One for us and one for them.
No one wants to be in a film that they're embarrassed by,
even if you are getting paid for it.
Their work is in it.
You can say, I set dressed grown-ups too,
and I'm not like, that's a terrible movie.
I say, it looked fantastic.
Well done.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But not everyone paid as close attention
to the individual elements of grown-ups too as we did
most people paint it with the same broad brush of the rest of the component parts of grown-ups too
you know because that ignorance the thing is for me is you know that's true not a lot of people
saw it or not a lot of i don't know some people saw it it made money my point is there are people
who tried really hard obviously and did a good job in their little neck of the woods.
And the actors are so disrespectful half of them when they come in here.
Nick Swanson is phoning the shit in.
Well, why wouldn't you?
Adam Sandler hates Nick Swanson with the fire of a thousand suns.
The only person he hates more than Nick Swanson.
He writes put downs for everyone to throw at this fucking character in the movie at the end of
it when uh jill lonely jill who was an outcast in high school returns to the bronx to have new
years by herself again she goes to the same place she always goes to for new years for company a
picture of her late mother and david spade dressed in drag and all of the other sand la cronies are
sitting around and i, how are you?
Why are you alone?
She goes, I was actually in Hollywood.
I was dating a movie star.
And the gag that they write, which is the greatest put down they can muster
for who this character might have been dating, is who was it?
Rob Schneider, which is so alpha dog.
Because Schneider still is in Sandler movies.
He's not in this one, though.
He's not. it's just a
huge fucking kick in the guts adam sandler puts rob schneider in one in every three happy madison
productions just to string him along you've watched some of real robbie yeah i tried to watch
um the first episode and it's his self-funded netflix show it's fucking insane it's unwatchable
it's unwatchable on so many levels
because the thing I noticed immediately
is the saturation of the colours.
We should do a podcast on Real Rob.
I'm down.
We should just do an episode a week.
Yeah, fuck, I'm down on that.
That's good.
Yeah.
We'll do that for sure.
There's like another season of it now.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, okay, great, great, great.
Well, there you go, everyone.
You've witnessed the birth of a new new party there um the color saturation in that show is off the goddamn chart
it's like what matt groening wanted when he started the simpsons i was adjusting the
like color saturation on my computer it looks like it's in a nuclear waste site. Everyone's glowing.
It's so crazy.
And the writing is unforgiving.
But we're not here to talk about real Rob.
Yet, we're here to continue this deep dive into Jack and Jill.
Jack and Jill, because I sort of forgot when we first chucked this on,
I thought it would be a good idea to spend the time doing this one.
Do you want a beer, Tim?
Yeah, I'd love one.
This movie, it really, when it came out, became a meme.
Like, this was a real cultural flashpoint.
And every kind of hacky comedian or cultural commentator just got a free hit by bringing up this movie.
Was this before or after Funny People?
Because that's another good question funny people before i really scrambles the timeline because i genuinely
thought that was adam sandler atoning oh no maybe this came after and everyone was like it's like
such a flip off to everyone yeah because everyone was like oh wow yeah funny people 2009 wow so
that's like everyone going oh sandler gets it he gets it and then he's like no do i get it i'm still doing it bitches i'm gonna do it worse than i've ever done it before it's maximum adam sandler uh who
do you were there any i mean i know that you thought pachino was doing a good job i think
that's just because no he was really yeah i thought he went i'll tell you what he had do you
think he can't act badly?
Yeah, I think that's probably true.
I think he had, the key word is commitment.
Because no one else did.
I think Adam Sandler as Jill was reasonably committed,
but everyone else was finding it in,
except Al Pacino and Shaq.
But Shaq was only in there for a few seconds.
These cans are fucking nuts.
They are really crazy.
Can you explain them?
Yeah, they're actually really delicious beers.
It's called Colonial Brewing Co.
I think they're based out of Melbourne, Port Melbourne.
And the cans are like, they've got rip tops.
So you take the top off, but instead of just opening a small area
through which the liquid comes,
you rip off the entire top of the can
so that it essentially becomes like a receptacle
in which you can drink anything.
Like a glass.
A tin glass.
I mean, practically it makes no sense,
but I find it in some way quite satisfying.
Yeah, it's awesome.
The ripping off bit looks fun to do. Yeah, it's awesome. The ripping off bit looks fun to do.
Yeah, it's actually quite stressful
because the things that they keep the bears in here
are so hard to get the bears out of.
They're shaking up by the time you're trying to open them.
So normal six packs, you know,
when you get them in America,
come in those plastic rings,
which fuck up all the fish.
And I think that's why they've made a bold decision
in Australia to use this quite industrial plastic
where there's no way they can kind of swim into them
because it's all thick.
There's a full lid on top of the...
You know what I say, Tim?
Only the stupid fish get caught.
Yeah, good on you.
It's a bit of Darwinian.
We're just lending a hand to the ocean.
Yeah.
Helping Poseidon's cause,
which is the one true
race of superior fish yeah you don't want to talk to poseidon too long about his ideas on
the rules of the ocean absolutely pretty stressful dude big time so fuck i don't know man 90 minutes
i when we were in that dinner scene at the start, I couldn't help but think,
something needs to be 90 minutes to qualify as a normal movie,
which is what Adam Sandler wants to make.
He wants to bill everything as a normal movie that you go and see.
You take the kids, you take the wife.
And there wasn't enough film.
Do you know what a great name for an advertising firm would be?
What?
Trojan Horse.
Yes. Fuck, that Trojan Horse. Yes.
Fuck, that's real good.
Yeah.
How crazy is that?
I think this is bound to be some stand-up comedian's joke,
but a condom company called itself Trojan.
Fuck, that's dumb.
It's so good.
It's the one thing your head goes to when you think Trojan.
You think escaping, ingress.
I think horse. Maybe that's why they did it
because everyone deep down has a desire to be fucked or fuck like a horse esquire um yeah
hey if adam sandler was an animal what animal do you think he'd be
probably a bird What animal do you think he'd be?
Probably a bird.
Yeah, you could be right.
For some reason, I'm gravitating towards... What are they called?
Kookaburra?
Kookaburra.
Nah, sorry.
It's not a bird.
It's a big, hairy... It's it's like a mole kind of but really big
oh and slow moving the largest like guinea pig or yeah yeah that thing uh capybara capybara yeah
like that for some reason i'm associating with adam sandler but yeah with this crazy voice thing
you're right that's definitely a joseph moore Walkout Boys fame. Used to do a very funny bit in Fan Fiction,
which is a show that go to the Edinburgh Festival.
He would do Hogwarts.
He was at Hogwarts and he cast Adam Sandler as Hedgewig the Owl.
And Hedgewig the Owl would go,
Hoody-hoo!
That's good.
What's Adam Sandler doing right now?
Fuck, man. Whipping the scab off a cold one. Would you mind just checking? That's good What's Adam Sandler doing right now? Have we got
Fuck man
Whipping the scab off a cold one
Would you mind just checking
Well he made a play for
To Be Loved Again
He did the Mayowitz stories
And everyone really enjoyed them
It was a Netflix film
That was very well received
That's true
Yeah apparently he was
Really excellent in that
His acting skills were on display
Full force
He did one with Chris Rock
Recently on Netflix
Which is called
The Week Before or something.
Is that a buddy cop thing?
It's like their children are getting married
and they're meeting each other as the fathers of their
respective partners.
The trailer for that actually made me laugh a little bit.
So, presently, Adam Sandler is working
on Hotel Transylvania 3.
Very good. Summer vacation.
Is one of our boys
in Hotel Transylvania
I'm not sure
Jermaine Clement
Is he voicing Dracula
I'll check
I'll check for
Hotel Transylvania 3
Also in 2007
Sandler made a
One million donation
To the boys and
Oh no that's not
What I'm looking for
I'm looking for this
Hold on
Well he's finished
You know credit where it's due
One million donation
To the Boys and Girls Club
In his hometown
Manchester, New Hampshire
Very generous
Good on you.
The same year, he donated $2,100 to former New York City Republican Mayor Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign.
Adam Sandler giveth and Adam Sandler taketh away.
I'm pretty sure Giuliani's Jewish, isn't he?
Which has not aged well.
No New Zealanders in Hotel Transylvania 3.
well uh no new zealanders in hotel transvania 3 but i don't look i don't i normally i won't entertain my lust of talking about american politics on this podcast but you gotta say
how much did rudy giuliani fuck up his reputation which was so pristine of looking after new york
city through its darkest hour and pissed it directly into the wind.
He was... It was phenomenal.
He was beloved.
Not apolitically,
but speaking outside of the realm of consequence for action,
what he did was incredible.
It was honestly like he had had
just like an eight ball of cocaine
every moment he was off camera
and was just running around saying
whatever came into his head.
The guy was in a full-blown hysteria
for however long he was on a media tour.
It was fucking incredible.
It was a real thing to behold.
And after such a respected position in public life,
it just blows my mind how things change.
But you know, I mean mean this film reminds us that things
change guy one moment you're the affable mascot for a sandwich company and the next you are behind
bars and federal prison for the rest of your days yeah i reckon i would say yeah there was a time
when concurrently jared fogel was the face of a sandwich company and also a baddie definitely
but he wasn't in prison no he wasn't should have just fucked the
sandwiches yeah we kept telling him god damn it put your dick in an italian herbs and cheese and
just sort it out jared two dicey pull out oh it's all bad it's all gone wrong what were you looking
up just then what he was what adam sandler was up to next yeah so hotel transylvania that was all like again right and so um that thing that he was commended on recently on netflix was that a series
or a movie it's a movie the mayowitz story starring him and ben stiller i believe as well
was it like a jewish family coming back together after some time apart or something
i would love the blurb did he write it at all or was he just acting? It was Noah Baumbach
Who wrote and directed it
And he is of course known for
Yeah of course
What did he do?
He co-wrote the
He works with Wes Anderson
He co-wrote The Life Aquatic
He co-wrote Fantastic Mr Fox Actually I He co-wrote Fantastic Mr. Fox.
Actually,
I don't recognise any of the things he's directed.
But I'm also
in great.
But the Mayowitz stories
is an American comedy drama film
follows a group of dysfunctional adult siblings
trying to live in the shadow of their dysfunctional father.
Dysfunction.
Yeah.
People love that stuff.
What would be the film that you would want to see Adam Sandler do next?
Man, Jack and Jill 2.
Yeah?
Do you want to lay down the plot line of that film?
Why not?
yeah do you want to lay down the plot line of that film why not uh two siblings who have reunited are driven apart because uh jill has started dating nick swartzen's character
the atheist yeah they make fun of him in the film for being an atheist. Yeah, it's good.
Look, any, I don't know, anything that he has- Flesh this out, guys.
Stay in it.
Jack and Jill 2.
Nick Swanson's there.
His name is Todd, I believe, in the world of Jack and Jill.
I just want to tell you the real Adam Sandler movie I want to see is anything he has no involvement in the creative process.
Like, over.
Oh, like he's acting and stuff.
Anytime he's just, someone's using him for his ability to act
yeah now so did he he co-wrote funny people is that right no it's all judd judd apatow
and someone else didn't someone else co-write that with him wasn't even goldberg was it
oh look mate of um you know seth what's his name fame sethogen, fame Written by Judd Apatow
Do you know, I don't remember
Barely anything about Funny People
Except walking out of the cinema
And being like, that was two movies glued together
There's like a natural point
Where the movie should end
And it doesn't, there's like another 40 minutes
That was my main memory as well
It was too long
And it changes completely There's like another 40 minutes. That was my main memory as well. It was too long.
And it changes completely.
But I don't remember a goddamn thing about it.
Adam Sandler is essentially playing himself.
I remember that Eric Banner in a hilarious turn is an Australian who is with... Magneto.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Remember the Aussie rules scene?
No, not at all.
Where he's explaining Aussie rules to Adam Sandler's character.
He's going, this fucker here is going to chase this fucker here.
It's real funny.
And then he goes, there's a very funny moment.
Oh my God, this cracks me up.
Adam Sandler and Eric Banner are having a conversation
about their shared love for Leslie Mann,
whose character's name I can't remember.
And he's going, Adam Sandler's like in a moment
of sort of being contrite
and like sort of reflecting upon his rush.
You know, you're lucky she's a great woman, she's a beautiful woman.
And then Eric Banner's been trying to remember the name of an actor
and he goes, oh, Cameron Diaz.
Cameron Diaz.
He goes, yeah, well, you're lucky, you know, she's a beautiful lady.
You're very lucky to have her.
And he goes, yes yes but Cameron Diaz
fuck
is one of the greatest bits
of comedic delivery
holy shit
just because I have a real desire
to talk to you about
something I enjoyed
and you've brought up
Leslie Mann
I saw Blockers the other night
oh man I want to go to that
it's real good dude
yeah it's
been getting mixed reviews though some people are not into it but i i fucking had such a rollicking
when studio comedies are done right there's nothing i enjoy more you just walk into a cinema
you completely unplug and you're like you fucking feed me comedy that i just can process without
thinking there is such a great boil down of a good, well-pulled-off studio comedy,
which is really what this thing feels like.
And it's good.
It's timely.
It's about an exploration of teenage women's sexuality.
But it's just fucking everyone's got the goods in that movie.
John Cena is a delight.
He's on his way to rock level status.
He truly is.
Now, have they been in anything together?
Because that should happen.
No, but I did just see The Rock
Confirm that him and Vin Diesel didn't
Shoot any scenes together on The Fate of the Furious
They've got beef eh
Huge beef
Yeah that's an interesting one
Do you want to hear an old Vin Diesel joke I have
Joking that Vin Diesel's erect penis
Also looks like Vin Diesel
I think that's probably true
Blockers is good It's my family bro also looks like Vin Diesel. I think that's probably true.
Blockers is good.
It's my family, bro.
You sure?
Was that Vin Diesel or Vin Diesel's penis talking?
Vin Diesel's penis.
Very good.
There's a woman in it
who plays...
Crap.
Whose daughter is she?
Someone's.
Anyway, there's someone on there.
Nothing better than listening
to people remember names.
There's someone on there.
It's one of the... So there's three lead women
Right
Who are all the teenagers
Who are off to lose their virginity at prom night
And one of them's the main kind of
White girl
I didn't lose my virginity on prom night
Good on you
We don't really have proms in New Zealand
No
No
The main one's
First year university
In the hostels
It was terrible
Do you want to get some
stuff off your chest really i'm all right i think i've said enough i think you have too
uh there's a boring one who's like the lead one who's sort of you know we're supposed to follow
her journey she's kind of the cheerleader type without explicitly being so then there's one who
i won't reveal anything because it's kind of you follow her journey along a bit it's a bit of a
twisty turny road and then the other one is like the most magnetic on sky i haven't seen her in anything else we
should look up her name if possible she is so funny and such a delight she's fucking awesome
in fact i think she is john cena's daughter in this she's really great is john cena the the lead
one of the lead parents yeah he's one of the parents.
Will you remember her name if I say it?
No, absolutely not.
Okay.
She looks to be ethnically perhaps Indian,
but she's American, I would say.
She's an American.
Oh, my God.
She's Australian.
Is she?
Geraldine Viswanathan.
Do you have a picture?
She's an Aussie.
Yeah, she's
Yes her
Not just Australian but also
Generationally of the same group of people
As
Us in terms of age
And she came up with
People we know potentially
And then she became a big success
She is so Char charismatic in this movie
It is insane
She's so good
It's brilliant
Yeah
Hey go Geraldine
Is that her name Geraldine?
Yeah
Yeah so good
Go you good thing
Look Tim
We've got a day to seize
We've drifted
We've drifted hard
Hey everyone
Jack and Jill man
I actually reckon you should watch it.
I think you should see what it's all about.
If I was you, can I say this?
I would blaze the fuck up.
We didn't, and it was a big mistake.
Get your bong ready and get your Netflix account open
and be ready for a Jared Fogle appearance
because it will fuck you up a little bit.
Just be aware he's in there.
It's a shame that you know now because it is one of the most breathtaking surprises in the history of cinema
right up there with the end of the sixth sense when it turns out that bruce willis's character
actually wasn't a therapist at all he was a janitor bye everyone