The Worst Idea Of All Time - REVIEW: Twisted Pair

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

This was originally a pay-walled episode available only to Patreon supporters. Please consider if you can #PayTheBoiz at patreon.com/join/TWIOAT.Jesus H Christmas - this latest (final?!) instalment in the Breeniverse is a doozie. This time we've got double the Breen and half the sanity. The big BreenThemes™ are well and truly on show as we deal with an alien(?) transhuman(?) AI(?) semi-human pair of twins - one good and one evil, but both BREEN. We battle through 90 minutes of 'film' while Breen goes back to battle with the banks, Government and lawyers (I guess?!) Look - the whole thing is a fucking mess. Enjoy. We didn't. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

My name is Cade. I have an identical twin brother, Kale. Then one day it all changed. There was a bright light in the sky and time stood still. We were both selected. The pure majesty of nature. Programmable virtual reality the corrupt version a limitless digital universe connecting all shared virtual reality reality digital tribes i miss what i never knew hello everybody it's 25 minutes to 1 a.m on a friday night and you know what that means it's time to step back into the brainiverse and complete his cinematic quintology i. This is the fifth of five.

The 2018 release, as selected by you, the Patreon powers, Guy Montgomery and I have just watched Twisted Pear. Yeah, we sure have. I didn't know. I mean, the name was familiar when you told me that's what we were watching, but it wasn't until I opened it up and started my screening experience that i i realized i was back in the um terrifying hands of neil breen and i gotta say man like there's a novelty value yes sure but yeah i was just getting you know when when the stakes in a film aren't clear I was just getting, you know, when the stakes in a film aren't clear,

Yeah. like the longer it goes on, there are a few set pieces that naturally you get to enjoy for what they are. Sort of. I don't, his conviction that he's both intelligent and right that permeates through all of his films is infuriating and terrifying because he's not, he's not either intelligent or competent enough as a filmmaker to articulate what he's trying to say. Like it's always, you know, the vague idea of corporations,

the brain. Let's yeah, let's, let's address what, what do we think the Breen themes are. The Breen themes are all about systems of control that are fucking with our lives, according to this man, who honestly just refuses to not wear jeans.

It doesn't matter what scene or situation or character he's portraying, the same ill-fitting blue jeans every time every shot every frame um breen often very ham-fistedly i'll tell you what i'm doing guy just to set the table for you and our dear listeners i thought i would struggle so hard to articulate anything about this watch because it was so fucking annoying and confusing that i've got it quietly like silently playing uh while i'm talking to you so it's just it's just on again uh in the background for me so um the brain themes are all about like corruption it's it's the bankers it's politicians it's um sometimes insurance companies uh yeah and there's they're always represented by like

four dudes just four people who he like who loudly articulate the nefarious things that breen imagines these institutions to be carrying out so you wouldn't read about it So in Twisted Pear, he catches three corporate businessmen leaving some sort of office block. And he somehow gets them in chains and sort of strings them up inside of a garage, I imagine. And then he says, this is my version of justice for all the things you've done. And then they just, you know, start running off a laundry list of confessions, which if I'm not mistaken, we have seen before, except previously in the Breeniverse on the steps of parliament. Yes.

They go, all of the politicians we corrupted, all of the illegal drugs, all of the insurance scams. And it's just... And guns, don't forget guns. And the illegal guns now that line what you're referring to with the the justice there's actually a pretty brilliant bit of script writing because um one of brand's two characters he portrays in this film uh says this is for justice and uh one of the dudes he's got strung up says, oh, are you kidding me?

I'm a lawyer. You know, an arbiter of justice. And then he said, this is my version of justice. And he shoots him a bunch of times. And they're very unaffected by the bullets. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's very difficult to discern what the actual intended impact of the bullets are even within the the universe of the movie because whenever he fires the gun

he's got he's got an effect on he's got an effect on iMovie that like it's like if you took the flame emoji from your phone and just like put it for a flash over the end of a fake gun on film. It's honestly, this thing's got to be seen to be believed. It's so fucking rubbish. He's gone backwards. I think he has at one point,

because I was watching it. I was sort of, you know, maybe getting a little bit of enjoyment out of it where I could, but also really battling. And then Rose, I'm living with Boner of the Heart, Rose Matafea,

she came in and even for the, like, one minute that she could tolerate being in the room and watching the movie with me, I was like, it's honestly really nice

to have someone else here because I felt like I was going crazy when I was watching it by myself. Yeah. Like, it has to be, it's a group viewing experience, because then you can be incredulous to or with someone. But if you're just watching it by yourself, it's such a slog.

And honestly, it's probably how he deteriorates the brains of the people who are part of the Breen cult. Because if you watch these movies by yourself, by the time you're finished, you are susceptible, not necessarily to his ideology, but to, you you know whatever the next person or thing you hear is do you know i think a related thing to this is uh such are the skills of this fine uh aged filmmaker that i was streaming the movie and i thought um my internet was fucking out so I downloaded it but it wasn't fucking out

he just has this bizarre insistence on using all these weird stills that he holds frame on for ages throughout the movie and I was like oh bit fucking stuttery here nah that's Breen that's Breen stuttering that's the speed of Breen's filmmaking

I love that test I love because I was the same but I had downloaded it That's Breen. That's Breen stuttering. That's the speed of Breen's filmmaking. I love that test. Because I was the same, but I had downloaded it. Yeah, and then also the seemingly random pattern in which he chooses whether or not to use a real location or a downloaded green screen as the setting for different parts of the film, there's not a lot of rhyme or reason to... At one point, I can't remember what he does,

but afterwards he boards quite a plush private jet, which is so obviously him walking in front of a green screen and sitting down on like a very plain chair but the way it looks is like he's sitting in a plush chair but this very comfortable plush chair he sits like on the very edge of and doesn't lean back at all i mean i'm getting bogged down in the wrong details here maybe tim we should i'm on the um twistedpeerfilm.com website so i'm gonna oh nice i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you and the listener how this film is pitched by neil green before you do actually i'll just give you a fun tidbit because i've i've been on that website once before because when this film got announced and was coming out brain said if you

want to do a screening in your city hit me up and i did i emailed the brain and um it was going to be too expensive to put on i couldn't see any way that i wouldn't lose like about a thousand dollars even if tons of people came did did you were you in direct contact with him though yeah yeah you were emailing back and forth with neil brain i see yeah there was like two emails from each of us because i was trying to what was emails like um you know not grammatically perfect but i could understand what was being said he had some pretty specific ideas about rates and cuts that he wanted for the screening from memory it was something like 500 us plus 50 and then if you combine that with what the cinema wants you know to put it on um you're losing money no matter what way you slice it unfortunately um well the the so the the

picture of the blurb as represented on the website is identical twin brothers become hybrid ai artificial intelligence entities yet are torn in different directions to achieve justice for humanity. Do you agree with this blurb, Tim? Yes or no? No. What do you think it is? I don't know, but no one could. This movie's so confusing. You can't glean any...

Maybe I'm being too hasty. I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. Go ahead. maybe i'm being too hasty i don't know no no no no no go ahead you're not being too hasty at all this film's fucking indecipherable and not in a good way you know it's not inception it's not even an art house film where you can project meaning onto it because it's like hearing someone who's been smashed in the mouth with a shovel try and read poetry it's like i understand that you are you have the idea of what you want to communicate and you're simply unable to can i ask you a question then tim do you think neil breen has seen a movie flip of the coin hey i really don really don't know. In this film... I think he is.

There's a... Well, he didn't pay attention. In this movie, there is a scene with a... Like, it doesn't really make sense in terms of stacking up to whatever the narrative's trying to achieve, but there's a scene which is inside

of what I imagine to be his home studio. Like, it's in a... You know, some people have small cinemas in their house so there's like a projector and some sort of lazy boys laid out in front of it and this woman who occasionally appears in the film uh wearing like two dollar shop fairy wings and i think she represents something positive although it's impossible to say. It really is. She sort of appears in this home cinema. And in the home cinema, one of Breen's other movies starts, I can't remember, maybe it was Pass Through or Fateful Findings,

but one of his other movies starts playing on the screen, the end of it. And I'm like, that's, well, that's, no, but that's in the he's in the scene and i'm like this totally blows open it's the same thing in uh oceans 11 or 12 when they talked about how much the woman julia roberts was playing looked like julia roberts and like what the whole movie can't exist now yeah yeah he really he's made the same mistake i didn't like that um i just oh man it's really like it is really confusing

and then you do this is what this is like to try and describe it even after having just watched it to you someone else has just seen it you do feel like you're losing your mind because there's nothing to describe the scene that's playing out on screen right now is the one where he goes past the homeless dude and then a woman walks past and he goes oh an attractive woman and then he's like accosts her oh no they bump into each other and he drops his phone and she drops some papers and then he just starts yelling at her come meet me here at eight o'clock come meet me yeah i'll buy i'll make it up to you i'm gonna buy you a drink meet me here at eight o'clock he says it so many times it's so crazy scary real scary it's real scary um that's in about minute fucking 12 of the film as well i think it's no good

and um and then it's revealed later that he's got like this evil twin it's like oh it's not me it's my evil alien ai fucking gene splice twin or whatever and it so i had i gave a comedy workshop um out of town recently and there was a person there who um i was talking about like you know the importance of how you treat your audience and that you shouldn't lean too much on audience interaction unless you've kind of got you know a gag in mind to to justify it and this guy who i had um done a couple gigs with earlier that week was like okay well i've got this this gag i want to open my set which he had been doing where i ask someone in the front row, hey, tell me a funny story that you read in the paper today. And he had this big, long reason about why he did it that paid off like three minutes later in a very kind of confusing way, but it made absolute sense to him.

And Breen's done the same thing. It's just like, i understand that you're what you're trying to do is give us a little twist and in your head it's all justified and accosting this woman uh is the way that you think it plays out is all resolved later by the fact that it's your evil twin but you've just fucking cooked it because you've kept us in that moment for about an hour and you've built up no trust. We don't believe anything you have to. We just think you're a terrible, terrible man who doesn't understand what you're writing or what you're dealing with. And that you are basically a sex offender and a home invader.

There's another weird bit where you just fuck. It's weird. Is it his sister whose house he breaks into and wrestles with for five minutes it's the same it's the same woman this is what is so you know what makes it quite uh confronting i guess is because his conviction that he understands all of his characters and obviously him in the world he he's so certain that he understands what's best for humanity and can identify all the flaws within humanity.

You know, this unwavering idea while, you know, breaking every normal code of conduct or social convention, you know, like, yeah, he runs into this woman, they drop something, he insists upon meeting her at eight and she doesn't show up and he's furious so he goes and he breaks and enters into her house gives her a massive fright she sees when they start wrestling she smashes a piece of art that was conveniently

just resting on the sofa over his head and then their wrestle sort of becomes um not sexual but like certainly slows down in pace and breathing and it's like they sort of wrestle each other to a standstill and then he says what's for dinner and she says it's your favorite uh and then yeah she starts talking about how she spoke to their mom or her mom but the insinuation is it's a shared mom or that they are an old couple who have been together a long time and so he would, you know for her to refer to her mother as mum would make sense because he'd be like, yeah I know

your mum. It's an in-law or something. But there's no clarity. It's so unclear. It is wild to me. The machinations. This guy's brain. I love the scene. This is one of the ones that sort of keep you on the hook as the movie goes on when he goes out for a meal with that same woman later on

and they're walking along outside and he says i reserved the entire restaurant just for us and then the camera very slowly pans to reveal about 20 to 30 like outdoor dining sets what is very clearly on a public walkway with like huge industrial rubbish bins behind them and they go and sit down and he says this place is incredible the food the service except it's all invisible. And then they start laughing. And it's these like mind bending bits of movie making where he's almost suggesting that he isn't on the joke, but not in a way that makes you comfortable that he definitely is or that you're the joke he's telling is the same joke that you're meant to be laughing at. Like it's, it's, um, you just can't trust him. This is the problem with brain he's if he had doesn't need to be a ton necessarily but just a little bit more like 30 percent more trust

imbued from his audience into him that he would need to earn um then what we could be viewing is like some cool art um but it isn't i think it's like it's kind of undeniable that you're just watching a man fail in a lot of different regards fail as a screenwriter fail as a producer you definitely couldn't get a restaurant um fail as a director in a i don't know if he's involved with casting but holy shit he's involved in he's involved in everything in some ways the casting was fucking on point because somehow he has found uh 20 25 people who is so shit at delivering lines to a camera that they make his acting look good and i realize i'm being pretty negative and punchy but it's like 1 a.m. here, and I'm up to my eyeballs and brain, and frankly, I've fucking had it.

At the same time, though, here's a guy who has now made six films, maybe. That's impressive. The movies themselves aren't impressive But to be that involved And to actually I mean he's not putting out a cohesive product So maybe you're right Maybe it's not as impressive I'm giving it credit for

But We're talking about him I was on board with the brain And I'm off board Well Maybe to counterbalance this negativity I'm going to read you from the The twistedpeerfilm.com website I'm going to read you from the twistedpairfilm.com website.

I'm going to read some theater audience reviews and comments. Brilliant. These are all sort of like a bullet-pointed list, but the bullet points are stars. 500 people came to a single screening in Chicago. They loved it. Ovations. He sort of writes about and deifies himself in a similar way to Trump. A master class in ambitious filmmaking.

Brings storytelling and usual style. It's one of the most entertaining and best works of the year. Who said that? Is that quite attributed to anyone? None of these are attributed to anyone. Okay. Okay. Beautiful. The theater was electric.

Standing ovation. A visionary masterpiece. I was hooked. Amazing. It was the first time I ever gave a movie an ovation in a theater. Breen at his best. Craving more. We all cheered.

It was the best experience I've had at the cinema in a year. Without a doubt, the best cinematic experience I've ever had. Simply put, a masterpiece. More mind-bending greatness from Neil Breen. Neil Breen is an inspiration to all indie filmmakers. Neil Breen is a revolutionary. It was fantastic. We had a blast.

10 out of 10. Breen is the most interesting indie filmmaker right now. Fantastic. A legend. A movie event like nothing I've ever seen. The best movie experience.

It was in every way a wonderful experience. You know how people talk. The audience was ecstatic. inspiring, intrigued, fantastic. We all cheered. And then the last one just says, and many more similar glowing positive theatre audience comments. Man.

The thing that makes me the most uncomfortable about Brian, because I'm just watching another scene, is him constantly throwing these women at him on screen. It must be so... He is a man utterly without any on-screen charm whatsoever. When you see him kissing these women, you feel fucking gross. You feel fucking gross watching it in a movie. And imagine being the crew,

or God forbid, the cast member, who has to be on the other end of that. It just, it's, there's a darkness there. There's a gross, it's no good. I don't like it. I don't like the vibe. It is, it's, yeah. I don't like it. I don't like the vibe. It is... It's...

Yeah, I mean... And there's quite a bit of that in this one. This one's gone backwards. There is comedy in failed ambition. And like... Yes. You know. But it just...

It doesn't seem... Yeah, I'd love to talk to him. It just... I don't know... it doesn't seem yeah I'd love to talk to him it just I don't know yeah because like all these shortcuts he takes all these things he does in the

you know like he can pan a camera but then like the visual effects he chooses to use are just off the wall like his character that's been imbued with AI,

the purportedly heroic one, the twin brother that is on a quest for great or goodness, has got the power to leap, to leap quite a lot. Yeah. There's some big jumps. And the leap... Sorry. Cool.

Sorry about that and the yeah the jumps are just like he knows they look like shit there's no planet where he doesn't they've got

some characters are given fake mustaches that are literally I think at one point not even a fake mustache just scotch tape over the top of their lip I love that you do? Not even a fake mustache, just scotch tape over the top of their lip.

I love that. You do? Well, you've got to like some parts of it. I also, it frustrates me to just not have any idea what's going on, really, you know? So, like, maybe, should we try and get into that there's twins there's um there's uh so we're living in a world where there's these sort of alien ai humanoid hybrids um that are governed by this force, this alien force, and they're very super powerful. And the alien force is the one that's kind of created

the species of thing with experimentation. And they're very powerful. They're a lot more powerful than humans. And Breen, there's good Breen, whose name I cannot even remember. And I think bad Breen is called Kale or Kane. Just watch it. Do not give a it was it was cade is the good brain oh really it's ringing a mess so cade is the naughty one and cade um is he he got his powers like taken away from him by the force and now he's on drugs and he has beard and that's how you know

he's baddie um whereas the good brain is a force of light and justice and at the start of the film in a breathtakingly terrible sort of approach to doing visual effects there's a still photo of some special forces style um soldiers with big uh like assault style gear and some some big guns and i appreciate what you're trying to do tim but it is making me uh uncontrollably angry I'm just wanting to paint a picture for our listeners who haven't seen the film it's just a freeze frame so Brain's in there with his

fucking brain genes and he's like everyone follow me don't worry come after me I will protect you I will save you and like just fucking change your genes my dude put some camo pants on for one scene so you blend in a little more and then once he sort of steps off the frame the uh the still frame

of these um you know special forces soldiers with guns akimbo it starts playing because it's the first frame of a video clip it's just so hammy i don't like there's something wrong with this dude's brain that he thinks he could get away with this stuff in 2018 i love it on the one hand and if it wasn't coupled with this weird kind of like genuinely dangerous feeling misogyny you know weird treatment of woman thing i think i could probably abide it is is very either high art or just great comedy but his judgments are off i you know what are you going to do i've got a review here on imdb uh posted by user mckevin m-a-c-k-e-v-i-n uh the title of the review is two brains are better than one cinema is a matter of what's in the frame and what's out martin scorsese rick solomon

so he's attributed a martin scorsese quote to someone else saying the martin scorsese, Rick Solomon. So he's attributed a Martin Scorsese quote to someone else saying the Martin Scorsese quote. I can say with absolute certainty that I've never seen a film quite like Twisted Pear before. This was an introspective psychological thriller that explored the fine line between morality and corporate greed, weaving gracefully through touchy subjects such as artificial intelligence and programmable virtual reality, the corrupt version, this film will make

you question everything you thought you knew about cinema. While the acting ensemble is exactly what you'd expect from a Neil Breen quality film, Breen himself stood out amongst the star-studded cast. Only the greatest actors of our generation like Tyler Perry, Jack Black and Nicolas Cage have been able to tackle the tumultuous challenge of playing multiple roles in one film. Breen didn't only meet, but he exceeded all possible expectations. Without spoiling the film, Breen played two brothers who, split apart by fate, ended up taking very different life paths, light and dark, good and evil, right and wrong. Breen captured the individual essence of both brothers

and gave them distinct individual voices. For a film with a budget of only $50,000, you couldn't ask for better special effects. Filled with explosions, daring stunts and intense fight scenes, the film included much more action than the usual Breen flick. However, it still managed to keep the heart-filled message that corporate greed can be solved easily by chaining up important businessmen in your basement

and shooting them intermittently throughout the best hour and 29 minutes of your life. 10 out of 10. See, that... Great review. At least, yeah, that makes you feel a bit better because they've articulated the experience. To hear them describe the film in such lofty terms

with what I imagine is some degree of irony makes me feel less cross and less alone. Do you think you'd watch another Breen film? Yeah. Dude, if he keeps making them i'll keep watching them no doubt i mean you know this took fifty thousand dollars and undoubtedly you know several months to put together um the least i could do is sit down and watch the thing but he's testing it he's trying given this given the same budget and the same resources and the same amount of time,

do you think you could make a better film than Twisted Pear? Yes, I do. Yeah. No, I do. I'm very confident about that, actually. Yeah. I mean, better is an interesting term, though, isn't it? Because what is better, really?

If I made a better film than this, I mean, it wouldn't count for anything but this movie counts for something so why does why does this movie count for something well it's rare that something exists that's this bad that is a movie and let me talk you through that a little bit uh highly collaborative art project is a film you know so it's quite amazing that it got completed to this quality um nothing stops the brain machine so that makes it quite unique in that way whereas if i if i had run it with 50 grand in a couple of months time to make a story it would just fall into a big ravine of thousands and thousands of other mediocre films this is something else and breen is something else he's a madman it's like if um that's here's what it is it's like if a toddler learned how to

drive a car i think and the car the car crashed a lot um but you're just fascinated at the fact that the toddler had figured out how to turn the ignition and figure out some sort of pedal system to accommodate its tiny little legs and you were like i mean this is fucked and super dangerous and it shouldn't exist on the road alongside the other cars but it's kind of amazing that this toddler is actually doing it to an extent that's what a brain film is. Yeah. But a toddler driving a car is inherently impressive because that's outside of the purview of what toddlers do. But that's how I feel about brain. Adults make movies all the time, Tim. Brain's not an adult.

Brain's not an adult. Brain's a brain. Brain is just a brain. That's all he is. He is an adult. And I think, credit where it's due, his unwavering commitment to finishing these things is really the most impressive quality he has.

Because, yes, there are different compromises made at different times in terms of quality, both in production and post-production but like he doesn't let the incong incongruent incongruent i can't even speak incongruent yeah he doesn't let the fact that like uh one part of the movie might make sense the next part doesn't stop stop him whereas i feel like my instinct would be like, well, no, we can't have a third of this movie really working and then two thirds not. We're going to fix those two thirds.

He goes, no, we did it. And that requires drive and courage and a sort of determination or just a willingness to, you know, credit to anyone who makes anything and finishes it. No matter how the project comes out, it is an achievement. And saying that, don't watch this, I went to a show here at the Edinburgh Fringe yesterday, Tim,

called Friendsical, the Friends parody musical and this was a show that did not understand the concept of what a parody was it was you know I would say probably had a similar budget to Twisted Pear

but it was also similarly you know is it impressive that they managed to make a whole show that went for 90 minutes? Right. Does that mean it needs to be out there? Absolutely not. It was abysmal. and the i mean it's i'm it's not a really a helpful analogy here but like it's the same thing where it's like you know to see the evidence of someone having created something

is great good for them but doesn't need to exist in the world does it mean i need to doesn't mean that i need to watch it although I have let me ask you about the Frenzical was it interestingly bad like this is like all brains movies are no no no this is the thing because I'm sort of you know like I think we both have a natural magnetism

we're drawn towards I'm going to sneeze sorry bad art or you know something that's I'm going to sneeze. Sorry. Bad art or something that's made poorly. And the real joy in it, it's a very specific type of badness that is enjoyable in the moment that you can enjoy while it's being bad.

It's almost impossible to articulate the pitch of badness that needs to exist for that to be the case. The Breen film and friends are cool these are that they're enjoyable somewhat on reflection like you know watching the friends because i was like to be able to talk about this is is the value i'm extracting from it it was not it was just long this is the first song i mean the premise of the friends call is that Ross, the character Ross from Friends, gets all of the five other friends back together to put on a musical about his and Rachel's love story. What? So already, already, I mean, they've just shattered all sorts of storytelling conventions and rules.

Like, immediately, it doesn't make any sense and so they like and then they just they rattle through 90 minutes of like iconic lines and moments from the show but all out of order without having earned any of the context that would make the jokes funny and it's interspersed with eight songs that sort of summarize you know feelings or things i mean it's crazy the first song they do the opening number is like a um uh an off-brand version of the i'll be there for you theme song so they're singing along and there's this like or eerily uncanny valley similar sort of guitar jangle playing underneath them and they're going so your life is different from what you thought it could be and you're like holy shit this sounds bad yeah it's just it's crazy but are they have they named this a parody musical to flout certain um copyright laws yes right

almost i will say this the actor who played chandler bing really brought it was he good that was he was sensational but was it a brain situation it was like brain acted the fuck out of that movie twisted pair but it was just because he had surrounded himself with people who had never um read anything no because this guy wasn't the writer, director, producer, caterer, editor. He was just one person doing his job. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think is, like...

How do you think Brain reckons his career's going? Well, he's not tethered to reality. As far as we know, here's a guy who's made six movies entirely off his own bat. I mean, I've got no idea what he's like outside of watching him on screen, but I only guess the self-awareness to ever consider anything he's done to be a failure.

All of his films lack the basics of self-awareness. Yeah. You know what sucks as well, just watching it for the second time, it playing over here, this is, you know, quite a technical and specific thing. There is no depth of field in any shot in this entire like it looks

like everything's been taped on a camcorder every every image is so flat so unspeakably flat everything is perfectly in focus and it just makes the whole thing look even cheaper than it needs to you can buy a camera for like a grand. That'll make stuff look more cinematic than this. It's just mind blowing. This is the thing though. He's got so many different hats on. He's not focused on nailing any one thing.

He's focused on getting everything done. Nailing? You kidding me? He's nowhere close to the board on any of it. But, well, you're watching a movie. You're watching a movie he successfully made. People are on show. he's nowhere close to the board on any of it but well but you're watching a movie you're watching a movie

he successfully made people are unsure I can't I can't talk about this anymore no no no I want to ask you one last question are you ready for it go ahead

what do you think was going on with those cats bro those little three statuettes of cats that kept moving around on the table what was that about uh no it's it's not fair to ask me that because to talk about it or speculate as to what i meant to represent would be to honor the idea that they represented anything it was just a fun little effect he figured out how to do and he he just would intersperse it throughout the film the cats are

nothing he's just using magnets under the table i think that's the big trick to it also yeah um that's what the cats represent neil breen discovered what a magnet is pre-managed to um also three times i think three separate times in this film do my most hated thing in televisional movies where you make something slow motion that wasn't shot for slow motion and just looks really like jagged and shitty yeah fuck it is a real pet peeve of mine well fuck this whole project man this this one this one was particularly bad everyone um not i think not watchable it was the last thing you did in your day it was the first thing i did in my day i think we were together and we had some of that herb and you know we were excited to be together

and watch a film together this could have been an enjoyable experience, but due to circumstance, this really, this was not a cool time. No. No. In saying that, we will be together soon. We are going to be together in London, England for the London Podcast Festival on Friday, September 6th at 9.30. We're doing a very special

one of live event Tim and I are going to hole up in a hotel the morning of the show we're going to watch 499 minutes of consecutive cinema in order. Grown Ups 2 Sex and the City 2. We Are Your Friends. Sex and the City. And

finally we will have a conversation that measures and discusses these movies and how they work in tandem with one another how they compare and contrast to one another and uh really i think hopefully achieve some sense of closure to uh i don't want to say four wasted years of life but certainly four years of life that have been um interrupted by this little passion project of ours yeah yeah i'll co-sign that if you go to little empire podcast dot com slash live um there's ticket details and all that sort of good stuff it would be lovely to see you there we are very excited about that live event um the concept of a 10-hour marathon day

followed by the live show does excite me. So I hope to see you there. First live show in the continent of Europe. Fantastic. Thank you so much, everyone. We'll talk to you soon. God bless you, Patreon powers. You're the real heroes.

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