This Paranormal Life - #011 Curse Of The Ice Mummy

Episode Date: June 13, 2017

When a couple stumbled upon an ancient mummy while hiking, they also uncovered a deadly curse. Who was this iceman? Was was his junk missing? Kit Grier and Rory Powers work out the truth behind the my...stery.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are fish life-seeded from another planet? Is Santa real? Are vaccines making our children... Whoa! What? That's for a different podcast. That's for your own. It's the truth, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:00:14 It's for your own political... That's right. ...pod. This is the paranormal one. Kitsinappropriateshit.com Welcome to another episode of This Paranormal Life. I'm your host, Kit Greer, joined by my co-host today, Mr. Rory Powers. Boo, said the ghost that we study.
Starting point is 00:00:37 No, said the ghost. Bad. How are you doing, Mr. Rory Powers? I'm good. Bad. How are you doing, Mr. Roy Pars? I'm good. I'm excited for another episode of the show where we take a paranormal case, a paranormal situation, a paranormal story, and as professional paranormal investigators, investigate it and come to a conclusion as to whether or not it is the truth.
Starting point is 00:01:00 That's right. I mean, you grew up learning from books. You grew up learning from Wikipedia. And where'd that get you, nerd? Exactly. Where'd that get you, you little speck of dirt? Huh? Huh? You piece of dust.
Starting point is 00:01:10 How much do you bench? Listen to me now. I'm in your earphones. How much do you bench? Be honest with yourself. Says the guy who literally bruised a rib at the gym the other day because I tried to bench more than I could. And it like
Starting point is 00:01:25 honestly really yeah it hurts to laugh wow but i mean it hurt to laugh before the incident um for emotional reasons and to cry and um and to live a little bit just to see my ex again i'm sorry is this a ghost you You're okay, bro. You're right. Back on track. Yeah, yeah. All right. If you're sure, do you need a glass of water? Are you okay? It's cool.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I just, I think my parents are getting divorced. So. So on this episode. Yeah. No, let's, yeah, let's do the ghost thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So on this episode, we're going to tackle. I just don't know when I, I get to see them a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, do you want to do... I just don't know when I'm going to see them a lot. Yeah, yeah. I mean, do you want to do the episode or should we stop? No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Okay, cool. Yeah, let's do it. So on this episode... I mean, who will have the cat though? Because he'll have to go to one of the houses. Yeah, I mean, not really paranormal. I would say. Not a ghost. What have we got lined up for today's episode well let me let me just
Starting point is 00:02:28 jump right into it rory because i feel like we're faffing about let me pose a question tell me yes how much do you know about otzi the ice man um as of right now nothing okay good i hope you can change that yeah well we're about to blow your little brain mind wide open and we're going to do that by taking a trip back in time as always uh until we start covering future paranormal events future ghosts oh my god that's gonna be a great episode oh it's amazing let's take a trip back in time if you you can imagine, to September of 1991, the month I was born. Hey, I was born in July of that, so I'm like four years deep. Are you Otzi?
Starting point is 00:03:14 No, I'm not. So, September 1991, two German hikers by the names of Elmut and Erika Simon are climbing the snowy caps of Italy's Ozzal Alps. Okay. They're climbing through the wilderness of the mountain at an altitude of 10,500 feet. That's pretty high. That is high. That's over 3,000 meters. When they stumble across something alarming and extremely gross.
Starting point is 00:03:42 There, buried in ice up to its waist, was a human body. Someone froze to death up there while climbing. Oh no. The couple, very responsible, immediately contact emergency services. So they get down off the mountain, they alert the authorities, someone is up there, we need to recover a body
Starting point is 00:03:59 because for all they know, there's a family out there, there's a missing persons report. Absolutely. That's the problem with frozen bodies. You don't know how long they've been up there that's it they are preserved like a delicious chicken breast it's like do you ever you mean you know rainbow road from mario kart of course well do you ever hear of the real rainbow road which is way darker in hell the fifth layer of da vinci's machine such a loose understanding of the classics art da vinci's machine you have no clue what i'm talking about clearly the helicopter
Starting point is 00:04:37 um no what is what what that's a real thing it's uh a mario kart is real it's it's yoshi is there toad real you best believe he's real bowser that son of a bitch is throwing turtles like they're going out of style oh my god he's the worst anyway rainbow rainbow road the real one is is a path past the death zone of mount everest and it's called rainbow road because of all the rainbow like all the multi-colored jackets of all the dead bodies that line this this road good god are you serious i'm serious and they never rot because it's so cold they just these bodies are perfectly preserved and it's so high up that no one will ever recover those bodies so there's this one path as you're going to the summit mount nevers that is just littered with dead bodies that's very misleading because what if someone's
Starting point is 00:05:28 on the map to the top of everest and they're like oh should we take um death valley uh the it says it's safer but i don't know death valley seems a bit risky oh here's rainbow road yeah that seems pretty cheery it's definitely why who lets her go it's an italian guy it's a couple of plumbers up on everest yeah yeah so back to the story so authorities hear about this and they scramble to recover the body but weather turns bad blizzard breaks out and it makes it too treacherous to ascend the mountain So after several failed attempts to try and get up there Yeah The team finally do succeed they get up the mountain and they bundle this body into a body bag and get it down the mountain so they take it to the lab and
Starting point is 00:06:19 It's a lab obviously just go down to the lab. No, no, like We should get this to the lab. Yeah. Just go down to the lab. No big deal. Well, you know, like... We should get this to the lab. Yeah, yeah. Good thinking. Where's this coming from? Who's got the... Who's brought the body down? Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:31 when there's a body in mysterious circumstances, you've got to do the autopsy. You've got to do the science. You've got to work out what happened. Yeah. That's the lab.
Starting point is 00:06:39 He's been the ice version of mummified. Yeah. So he's fresh for the picking. Well, it's funny. AKA, take his wedding ring the lab is just my garage i am my pawn shop yeah i'm wearing shorts and a vest that's my lab gear
Starting point is 00:06:59 scalpel you're just taking all this stuff putting it in a in a bucket it's like it's like a reality tv show like american pickers yeah my name's chuck welcome to the lab now now country music comes in yeah i feel like reality tv is really cheap in the word lab yeah so it's interesting you should say because they get this body and it's wearing several layers of clothing obviously but the thing is it wasn't wearing gore-tex and waterproofs and all sorts of high-tech climbing gear for being up at 10 000 feet it was wearing a sort of variety of materials so you know a layer of animal skin woven grass grass, leather, deer hide shoes. What?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Not exactly modern stuff. And as they remove layer after layer, they finally reveal not just a body or a skeleton, but a mummy. Oh my God. A goddamn mummified mummy. How much should I call that? You called it.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Look, that is why we study these things. That's why. That's why you went to paranormal state university. Yeah, why I dropped out of my actual college. You were fired on day one. Dropped out on day one for knowing too much. Yeah, brain too big. Professors got scared.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So you're a paranormal beast. Hit you with a broom. Tried to hunt me. Threw your tuition money back at you. I told him, you can't hunt the hunter, mother f***er. I'm going to paranormal school me and xavier rode off into sunset on his chair on a wheelchair dragging behind him indiana jones style behind the car
Starting point is 00:08:34 this mummy was perfectly preserved so preserved it still had food in its stomach from its last meal two hours before it died so the mummy was carrying along with his clothes a flint knife a perfectly crafted copper axe an unfinished longbow with 14 half finished flint tip lazy he was lazy i know where was he going with like yeah half a longbow prep for your journey no wonder he died yeah oh my god this this guy this guy was a loser oh should i bring my big coat no just take the half finished arrows instead that'll do it should i take my like waterproof boots or my deer hide slip-ons up this mountain you knew that he thought he could just, like, Luke Skywalker himself into the belly of an animal up there.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Like, that's why he's like, I'll just bring the daggers and the arrows and shit. I can just climb into, like, a little belly. They open up his stomach. He's like, there's actually preserved food in here. He was eating candy corn up for two hours before he died. It was really unhealthy.
Starting point is 00:09:39 His diet was really poor. It's mostly crunchy Cheetos. There's still city orange dust on his fingertips i mean cigarettes weren't even invented and he was smoking 60 a day just smoking literal weeds frozen with a vape in his hand god lazy unprepared i'm totally unprepared but the key here being, right off the bat, this is no climber. Just how old is this goddamn mummy? When they took this Iceman to the lab for dating,
Starting point is 00:10:11 they found out he was at least 5,000 years old. That makes him the oldest. I was like, before he was frozen. I was like, what? That makes him the- Frozen for 5,000. Frozen for 5,000 years. That makes him the oldest mummy ever
Starting point is 00:10:26 recovered in europe because you know everyone knows there's mummies in ancient egypt and all that but you don't really think about outside of that because no not at all because uh in ancient egypt they're doing it deliberately but outside of ancient egypt it was just like an accidental thing if you fell in a bog you got preserved if you oh so the term so the term mummification isn't specifically linked to the process that the egyptians use i don't believe so no that's actually the the preservation i did not know that see that's what i would have learned if i stayed in regular school that and um freaking age five it's go to paranormal high yes i learned about bigfoot yes i learned about demons
Starting point is 00:11:08 no i don't know pythagoras's theorem no i don't know the human anatomy no i don't know i don't know how to have sex technically i barely know how to walk i kind of just skip i learned how to skip no one taught me to breathe i learned by myself what's that noise just a man breathing just normal breathe hold on i think i'm having a baby he really did not go to go to they worked out that when this guy died he was 45 not 5 000 he was 45 45 that's still pretty uh old right for especially for 5 000 years ago yeah that's their 90 this is actually an interesting point because it's true that life expectancies have been going up a lot over the last 100 years it's gone from like 50 to like yeah like 75 or whatever it is globally now but it's a misconception that people only live
Starting point is 00:12:07 to like 35 or whatever back then the reality was that so many babies died right after birth that it brought down the average oh okay it's so people did regularly live to kind of 50 60 70s but it was more that it's more that today you're much more likely to make it to old age. Right, and not die as a little baby. Exactly. Gotcha. He was 5'5'' tall and had, wait for it, 61 tattoos. What?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Where would you even put that many? Oh my gosh. Like, I don't think I've ever even seen that many. No, wait, so like head-to-toe tattoos? I mean, I guess. I flip-flopped he sounds cool now he sounds like a baller yeah this is like i think his laziness is like a cool thing it's like richard do you want to finish the arrows nah babe i'll be fine he's got like a
Starting point is 00:12:56 skull and crossbones one arm got mom a heart with a a half finished he doesn't care he doesn't give a crap yeah he doesn't care this guy is like a cool neolithic guy you know that's awesome you know it's like they didn't have cars back then but he would have driven a cool car like a Fred Flintstone-esque push bike like a convertible
Starting point is 00:13:18 push bike saying push bike on the end of these things makes them very much less cool is there anything you could own in prehistoric times that would make you cool what would be the coolest thing I guess just like the biggest club of everyone
Starting point is 00:13:33 I guess that's like having a big dick in their society I mean there are clothing things everyone else is wearing a little loincloth you could have like loincloth that like sags you've got like a baggy loincloth that could be like a cool or like you could have a little prehistoric snapback or a really tight loincloth because you've like a massive dick
Starting point is 00:13:54 you know something like that right well it's funny you say that because most bizarrely of all rory his uh his penis and testicles were cut off. He didn't have any. What? Yeah. I thought you were going to say he had like a 12-inch frozen hog. Actually grew over the last 5,000 years. Yeah, he didn't have a penis or balls or none of that whole region.
Starting point is 00:14:17 It was all cut off. So why was he at this altitude on his own? Was he running away from someone or something? Was he sacrificed in a ritual why was his junk missing all pertinent questions the fact that he i mentioned earlier he had a copper axe a finely crafted copper axe and kind of like we were just saying this is an interesting point the fact that he had a copper axe 5 000 years ago means that he was a goddamn Bronze Age VIP because metal weapons had just been invented. No one had them.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It was a really rare and prestigious item. It would kind of be like if you died today and you were found in a long time from now and you were buried in a freaking Lamborghini. Right. That was like a status item. Okay, so he's high up on the food chain. Yeah, big time.
Starting point is 00:15:04 But as scientists continue to investigate his body things took a dark turn his head had been smashed in i mean we knew his junk was gone but his head was smashed in too he had cuts all over his hand and body and there were arrow puncture wounds from where he pulled out arrows before he died borrow me your style and lord of the rings right what did he do to deserve this death and who killed him it arrows before he died, Boromir style, in Lord of the Rings. Right. What did he do to deserve this death, and who killed him? It was like he died in some sort of crazy last stand. Yeah, absolutely, defending a couple of hobbits. So the team named him Otzi, after the mountains where he was found,
Starting point is 00:15:36 and the scientific community rallied to uncover the mysteries of his past. But Otzi the Iceman had other plans. He rose from the table with a roar. Where's my dick? That would be your one question. That would be your first question. Yeah, 5,000 years have passed. I mean, you wake up, everyone's wearing like not deer skin.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Everyone's got iPhones, but you also are missing your dick. So where is it? Kind of a big deal. Where is it? I need another tattoo. Where my dick was to cover up the missing dick. Can you ink out words in a dick form? Can you do 3D tattoo shit?
Starting point is 00:16:16 Does that technology exist? 3D tattoo. To be fair, you know, people talk about getting cryogenically frozen into the future for when they've solved diseases. Yes. It's a pretty good call. It's like this guy got his dick chopped off
Starting point is 00:16:29 and froze himself into the future until they could give replacement dicks. Robot dicks, yeah. It's that whole thing where he wakes up and it's like, are the robot dicks yet? It's like, no, put me back under. Let's fast forward. One year has passed since the day the ice man was discovered a mr rainer hen a forensic pathologist and the first man to actually touch hot sea with his bare
Starting point is 00:16:53 hands on the fateful mountain is driving to innsbruck university to deliver a lecture on his findings about the ice man when out of nowhere he's killed in a car crash. When experts come to investigate the crash, they say it looks like he intentionally drove right into the oncoming vehicle. Whoa. I don't know how you, like, tell that, but that's apparently what happened. It was like there was no sign of, like, I guess you check the marks on the road, and, like, they could tell, you know, because they could tell if you hit the brakes hard and, like, Right, right, right, instead of just, like, steering gently off.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But it just seemed to just kind of, like, drift into traffic. Are you sure the roads weren't a little bit icy? Oh! Dun-dun! Hardcut to the Iceman driving the oncoming lorry. It was me! Otzi! You've unfrozen a curse.
Starting point is 00:17:46 The timing of this event was definitely weird. But accidents happen, right? How about wrong? Shortly after, Mr. Hand's mountain guide, Kurt Fritz, who also uncovered the Iceman, is hiking in the Alps with a group. It's a beautiful day. No, Fritz, no.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Not Fritz. Not unlike... Don't take Fritz. Anyone but Fritz.'s a beautiful day. No, Fritz, no. Not Fritz. Don't take Fritz. He's such a good guy. Not unlike the day Otzi was discovered, actually. When suddenly they hear rumbling in the distance. Then under their feet.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Then they look around and see a freak avalanche cascading down the mountain right on top of them. No! Everyone scrambles to safety as fast as they can, and as the snow clears, they look around. You do a quick head count and see that everyone's made it, except Kurt Fritz.
Starting point is 00:18:32 No! Who's killed instantly in the icy blast. So accidents happen, right? But the two men to first uncover the Iceman both die in freak accidents. Now people are talking. The Iceman himself met with a terrible fate on the mountain. So are those who found him also meeting the same fate?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Curses. We're dealing with curses. It's the Red Ice curse. That's what I'm saying. I know this. This was first semester curses. We did this. We did this one.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I failed. I did fail that one. Yes, I did fail that one. I failed in spectacular fashion. They said I was cursed actually ironically it didn't improve my grade i was hexed the professor took me aside and said were you cursed before coming here it was actually the opposite of like harry potter getting the letter in the post like you're coming to hogwarts it was like you're cursed you have to
Starting point is 00:19:23 leave you have to go you're expelled from this university you're coming to Hogwarts it was like you're cursed you have to leave you have to go you're expelled from this university you're bringing down everyone around you in removing the Iceman from the mountain did they unleash a mysterious and evil force but before anyone has time to speculate the filmmaker Mr Rainer Halls who documented removing the Iceman from the mountain dropped out of an unexpected brain tumor. Oh my gosh. Then cut to Austria, where one of the hikers who uncovered the Iceman, Helmut Simon,
Starting point is 00:19:51 left home to hike a snowy peak. Days pass, and Mr. Simon hasn't come back. Everyone's trying to be calm and logical, but you can understand, you can't help but think, is it possible? There is a curse on the loose. Is he still up there? Will the mountain demand him as a sacrifice for taking otsy off the mountain a huge rescue attempt
Starting point is 00:20:10 is launched and people start to scar the mountain but before long lying in a small stream is the crumpled body of mr simon he was caught in a blizzard and blown off the mountain does he have his dick does he still have his dick excuse. I don't know how curses work. Class one. As we established, I failed. I failed curses. Curses. So is he the last one of the team?
Starting point is 00:20:39 We'll get there. Oh, God. Christ. He fell 300 feet to his death and before anyone could finish mourning the guy who led that search party to find him deodor varnick died of a heart attack one hour after mr simon's funeral and shortly after that one of the lead scientists on the case of the ice man conrad spindler took ill and died. Jesus Christ! I think around seven people died within one year.
Starting point is 00:21:08 That's mad. Everyone's talking about the curse at this point. Surely it can't be a coincidence. There must be something connecting all of these deaths, and everyone's looking at each other thinking, who's next? Except for one man, Dr. Tom Loy, the molecular archaeologist who worked on the case. He was the guy who discovered all the blood samples on the
Starting point is 00:21:24 Iceman and kind of worked out his gory past. Right. He uncovered all these wounds. And Dr. Lloyd didn't believe in the curse. He publicly claimed there's nothing unusual about the string of deaths, and I think he actually went on the record as saying, quote, people die. It's like no big deal. I like this guy.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I mean, you could probably guess where this is going. In 2005, he was found dead in his home. He developed a rare blood disease, and he died actually whilst he was writing a book on the Iceman. Since then, Otzi the Iceman has been placed in a state-of-the-art freeze chamber deep underneath the Museum of Archaeology in Bolzano, Italy. The curse seems under control for now. So what do we make of this?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Otzi isn't the only mummy behind a deadly curse. The same thing has happened in ancient Egypt. Dozens of people have died in connection to disturbing ancient graves like Tutankhamun. There are tons of paranormal tales about Indian burial sites. That's such a cliche that haunt people to this day. Not to mention the phenomenon of cursed objects is it possible to place a curse from beyond the grave is there any scientific explanation for
Starting point is 00:22:31 this you know we know placebo is a thing it could that be playing a role here is there a right you hear about a curse you just get clumsy as hell you slip up a little bit it happens to the best happens to the best of us you know you hear about a curse it gets inside your head a little bit it happens to the best happens to the best of us you know you hear about a curse it gets inside your head a little bit you get you get a rare blood disease you die it could have happened to anyone bullcrap it could have happened to anyone you hear about it could have happened to anyone here but a curse you drive your lamborghini off the road yeah you studied curses at at paranormal university continue yeah failed but continue of course of course do you see there being a a rational basis for this because i think everyone wants
Starting point is 00:23:12 to jump to there being some sexy curse explanation yeah well it's hard without a dick to be a sexy curse i'm gonna tiptoe around this subject on fear of being cursed myself. So let's just not reference. So I'm going to wrap up the podcast for now. Thank you for listening. I, a blizzard guesses. Jesus Christ. Shut the freezer.
Starting point is 00:23:40 It's an interesting story. It's a very interesting story. What I don't get. Yes. Is that. Hit me. freezer it's an interesting story it's a very interesting story what i don't get yes is that hit me so in in the in the cases of curses with mummies yes that's usually because someone who's been buried in a tomb or a pyramid with all their beautiful worldly possessions uh has been removed the grave has been you know fouled and soiled that's right and you've kind of you've crossed a barrier you've crossed the holy line the treasure people steal stuff been you know fouled and soiled that's right and you've kind of you've crossed a barrier
Starting point is 00:24:05 you've crossed the holy line the treasure people steal stuff probably you know you're out in the desert you got to take a shit somewhere why not drop it right on toon cameron's goddamn forehead where's dick used to be so it's like you're doing a lot of bad stuff but it seems like this this ice man he just he fell under hard times i think he was hunting maybe he was exploring well you say he was hunting but i mean he was filled full of like arrowheads and like his head was smashed in he got hunted he got hunted by the ultimate beast of all man winter oh wait jack frost jack frosty the freaking snowman yeah that's right five thousand years ago bashed his goddamn skull in one of the wounds would appear to be a carrot nose of some
Starting point is 00:24:58 kind and some pebble eyes you'll never watch that christmas time walking on the air video the same way ever again right after that video ends okay that snowman bashes that child's brains in with arrowheads and rips off his i'm sorry rips off the child's dick um i don't know really know where i stand on curses i find uh a lot of those stories about ancient pharaohs and curses i find those actually really interesting weirdly interesting very very fascinating but in terms of this a caveman curse an icy mountain caveman curse i think maybe why people think it might be kind of ritualistic and there might be some kind of spiritual thing behind it is because i don't it maybe echoes the incas you know they would on the top of their pyramids they
Starting point is 00:25:50 would um they would stab someone and the blood all goes down the things will sacrifice that i think uh this may be for people had echoes of especially in the way that his junk was removed and his you know head was bashed in that maybe this was a sacrifice of some description. Okay. Because, I mean, why would he take someone's junk? Maybe he took his own junk. You know, it's like when you're stuck up in the wilderness. And you've nothing to eat.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You've got nothing to eat. Am I saying that he ate his own penis? Am I saying it would be tasty? No. Am I saying I haven't tried to eat my own? I'd be lying if I said I hadn't. I think we all in this podcast would be lying if we hadn't. What is a curse?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Can someone tell me what a curse is, please? I can't remember you flicking through your first year notes from university on your phone. I don't know. Where do you land on on on curses on paranormal curses it definitely holds like a special place in the psyche the idea of a curse there's one anecdote that i remembered as i was researching this which i think is kind of interesting it was i can't remember what tv show it was but it was let's say like bbc it was actually come to think of it it was american horror story season three so it was let's say like bbc it was actually come to think of it it was american horror story season
Starting point is 00:27:06 three so it was like vice or something like that right and uh you know some bullshit reporting somewhat like this podcast and how dare you get out take it back i curse you for that you're cursed ice cubes i start cracking eggs you really don't know what a curse is do you oh this is gonna be a tasty little curse for you adding salt i can see why you failed this class you're legit making an omelette wait curse or omelette i always get confused delicious three egg cursed with potatoes on the side hope you like shell in your curse um so on this show they were investigating the idea of curses and you know capitalism spreads all over the globe there are shamans today that you can hire and so they go to this shaman in like south america or some junk and they go you know can you curse me for like 50 bucks or whatever and they're like
Starting point is 00:28:03 absolutely and they they do a little ritual and they curse him they put a hex on them they're like yeah you're cursed as shit uh good luck with that hey that's a cool idea yeah and he walks out into where and his whole experiment is is this curse going to affect my life the kind of takeaway was that it did sort of start to play psychologically on him that he started to believe it. And all you need to know is that at the end of the week of this experiment, he went back and paid him to take the curse off him. Oh my God. So it's like the guy didn't even necessarily believe in it, but he was like, I'll sleep better at night knowing that there's not a curse on me.
Starting point is 00:28:38 That's fair enough. Yeah. And I mean, as I said before, it's like we know there's things like placebo. So, you know, placebo has been demonstrated in certain cases to be as effective as like surgical anesthetic at relieving pain. So I kind of wonder, it's like, is it possible that someone, I mean, there's got to be statistical chance in here, but is it possible that someone could make themselves ill mentally by believing themselves to be good? I think it's a mix of that and then also it's one of those situations where knowing that you're in a place where you've been cursed all of these moments of ill fortune now stand out to you yeah more divine and you start recognizing them whereas
Starting point is 00:29:21 before like if i go to work i get up to go to work and I miss my bus. And if I'm like, oh damn, that's annoying. If I'd been cursed by a shaman that morning, I'd be like, it's real. Oh God, take all of my worldly possessions. Please, sir, just remove it. And the guy's like, what a bitch, you missed one bus. Remove the omelet, sir.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Egg is on my face. It's truly on my face. i also see this is where it's interesting to have my interpretation yes because i don't believe in bad luck really i will straight up smash a mirror right now yeah just give me a mirror no i got one over here oh my god i got it i got it oh it it it actually nicked me a bit in the in the glandular on your neck oh my god you can get a napkin or something yeah or an egg no i'm cursed it got it got me it got you too jesus anyone listening nine nine nine it's a curse it's a curse
Starting point is 00:30:26 I also like I'll walk under ladders yeah I kind of do that too I think as a kid I walked around and under a ladder like 15 times
Starting point is 00:30:35 just to show that it wasn't real because look at me now and my life's gone to shit look at me now doing a podcast in my living room in my couch nailing it
Starting point is 00:30:44 anyways I'm doing a podcast in my living room. Nailing it. Anyway, I'm doing a Patreon this month for housekeeping items. Can't afford detergent. How about that? But do you believe in good luck? Do you believe in luck at all? I don't. That's different, actually.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah. I think I believe in good luck. Yeah. So I don't know why I don't believe in bad luck. Because you dropped out of paranormal college, I guess. Right. I got to the good luck semester and didn't do bad luck. Yeah. So I don't know why I don't believe in bad luck. Cause you're, uh, you dropped out of paranormal college, I guess. Right. I got to the good luck semester and didn't do bad luck. You know,
Starting point is 00:31:10 class three, like the first semester or whatever. It's like, so good luck real. And next week we'll be coming bad luck. So everyone read up pages. See you later, professor.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Yeah. Pages 52. Party in Delta house tonight. Yeah. Well, as long as you read, you boys bring the beer i'll bring the ladies yeah okay i'll come hey don't get cursed don't get your dick cut off
Starting point is 00:31:29 huh huh i'm like fist bumping the ice man yeah he knows he knows he's grabbing your dick whoa that's mine that's me i'll curse you you son of a bitch um i i i don't believe in bad luck but i think curses i'm a little more iffy with especially when you're talking mummification you're talking egyptians you're talking pharaohs that stuff really scares me freaks me out really don't like it i might actually do one of those for one week like a mummy curse because that's really cool stuff okay should we just do like live in the podcast right now we could do this as an experiment that i today will place a curse on you roy powers using all my paranormal abilities can we i want to curse can we when we
Starting point is 00:32:11 maybe curse each other can i well maybe i'll just curse you and then we'll see how because we only need one person i mean or i could not that's real but i just think right and then you could be you you could be cursed and i could i. I mean, you're hosting. Well, yeah. Because if you believe in the curses, it should be you being cursed. I mean, yeah, I like not being cursed. Well, you've never been cursed, so maybe you like it better. I mean, it's true, but you can't knock it to try it.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Do you want to? I'm going to knock it right now. But I'll try on it. I'm going to knock you to your eyes. try on it i'm gonna knock uh please don't curse me sir please don't curse me what do i have to do i will beg on my knees do not curse me is there like a website online where you can get cursed oh should we look this up yeah well i have found um a list of the top 10 signs to look out for to see if you have been cursed okay because it may be that someone's placed one on you i make a lot of enemies yeah i make a lot of enemies yeah i got a
Starting point is 00:33:12 lot of people trying to drain me of my energy i'm online i'm an online personality that generates a lot of hate in general i mean i just post just hateful hateful things all day long. So it's kind of warranted. I also sometimes at the park just scream at babies. Yeah. Until they wake. I kicked pigeons. You like feed pigeons until they come close to you and then you boot them in the face. Saying curse this bitch. Kicked him into the trees.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Throwing eggs at them. The irony is real. Let's find out. I'd like to find out if i'm cursed let's do this okay well the number one top of the list do you ever have any nightmares yes like how regularly not very regularly i actually have them quite regularly wait really yeah i actually had i had one uh the other night of night that I was being tortured. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Anyway, moving on. A shaman? An ice man? An ice man of himself. Two, loss of energy. Yes, but that's because I'm not eating carbs for a lot of time, which is a curse I've inflicted upon myself. That curse is called dieting.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It's called Mr. Atkins. That curse is I want to look hot for summer. That's what it is. I want that beach bod. I want those ladies on me. Year of the grind. Okay, this one I feel like might be relevant to us. Financial loss. Ooh, that is a big one.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It says here. The prince from my emails promised me royalty. Promised me. big one it says the prince from my emails promised me royalty promised me but instead he robbed me of my limited fortunes i'll tell you the other day this ever happened to you i went to take out money from the atm little thing called an atm yeah it said it couldn't process transaction it did anyway now i am in the process of trying to get that money back. Oh, no. That's horrible. So maybe I have been cursed.
Starting point is 00:35:07 It says here, if you've lost your job, home, or taken some kind of monetary hit, a.k.a. ATM gate 2017. And podcast gear. The root cause may well be down to a jinx being laid on you. Okay, okay. All right. What about relationship difficulties? You having any troubles? Ooh. Ooh. I'm glad on you. Okay, okay. All right. What about relationship difficulties? You having any troubles?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Ooh, ooh. I'm glad you brought that up, actually. Moving on. Okay. Health problems. Okay. I'm glad you brought that up, actually, as well. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Okay. What about this one? Trouble sleeping. No, I sleep like a baby. Really? Like a little uncursed baby. Little uncursed. Fresh baby. Never done anything wrong. Honestly, I'm boom. Never kicked any pigeons. Really? Sleep like a baby. Really? Like a little uncursed baby. Little uncursed fresh baby.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Never done anything wrong. Honestly, I'm boom out. Never kicked any pigeons. Really? Sleep like a log. No carbs will do that to you. I don't think I'm cursed. No, I think I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I don't think I'm cursed. I think you're not cursed. I think you're all right. I don't think we've earned it yet. If anyone's out there listening, if anything bad happens to us in the next while, if anything bad happens to you, hell, know that it is the curse of the ice man but you know we've heard the facts we've heard the fiction we've heard the opinions and the questions where do you come down on the
Starting point is 00:36:14 curse of the ice man not real not real not real i don't think it's real i'm gonna go not real too damn that's another bummer of a conclusion. God damn. Two not reals. But that's our job. We have to bring the facts. And I'm not putting down all curses. You know, I'd love to explore some of the ancient Egyptian curses.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You want to be cursed? You want to be cursed? You threatening me, sir? For the bowels of hell, I condemn thee, demon. He's throwing eggs again. So if any shamans are listening to this podcast, I implore you for next podcast, please try and place a curse on us.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Do. We'll be monitoring. Not me. It's not real, but don't curse me. We'll be monitoring the effects over the next coming weeks. If you've enjoyed this episode of This Paranormal Life, please email in your own paranormal tales, questions, or experiences to thispar life podcast at gmail.com yeah we will get to them eventually i know we're just
Starting point is 00:37:14 saying asking for emails we're getting emails and then not talking about any of the emails but we yeah but we've got some great submissions so far yeah stuff that we're really excited to dig into so we'll get to it we want to iron out the structure applying yeah that's it we need to like a a filter for curses just go straight to archive so we don't even open it yeah gmail filter yeah the curse filter yeah and if you guys have any of your uh your own sort of uh suggestions uh for the show send those in too we're uh we're loving all the feedback from the show and we really appreciate you guys listening every week
Starting point is 00:37:50 and reviewing us on iTunes and everything. It's great. It is great. Yeah, we really appreciate it. Thank you for all the support. I hope you don't get cursed. Hope you don't get cursed. See you next week.
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